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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 214535 times)

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #330 on: January 21, 2021, 09:46:10 AM »
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Hi there,
1) We discussed in our team the possibility of making a computer simulation/animation of this rotation principle. The latter however is much more sophisticated and much more difficult for a possible computer simulation (if compared to the zigzags).
2) But we must not give up, I guess. Some time ago we came upon some companies whose declarations were that they could realize a computer simulation of any real mechanical process. So may be it's worth to think over the possibility of engaging such a company for a possible realization of a computer simulation/animation of the rotational principle. What is your opinion? 
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nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #331 on: January 21, 2021, 10:29:57 AM »
I already linked to animation as good as animation can be, perfect demonstration of the basic principle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeZXNo4EII0

There's no need for animations, just understanding that when you swing your arms in front of you, you are accelerated forward without reaction.
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #332 on: January 21, 2021, 10:39:01 AM »
OK, I agree. My personal opinion is that this machine is workable. But let us wait for some other team's members of ours to make some calculations. We'll be in touch.
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George   
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #333 on: January 22, 2021, 02:56:05 PM »
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Could we install the device on a toy-boat of length of, let's say, 50 cm? To see what would happen? (Only giving small ideas.)
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George
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Paul-R

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #334 on: January 22, 2021, 03:45:00 PM »
Quote from: nix85 on January 21, 2021, 10:29:57 AM
I already linked to animation as good as animation can be, perfect demonstration of the basic principle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeZXNo4EII0

There's no need for animations, just understanding that when you swing your arms in front of you, you are accelerated forward without reaction.

Surely, you are up against Newton's 3rd Law.

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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #335 on: January 23, 2021, 02:58:46 PM »
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As if there is some hidden potential in this rotational principle however. Let us consider it carefully and thoroughly and let us not be in a hurry to reject it immediately.
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #336 on: January 24, 2021, 01:06:15 PM »
1) No comments related to the rotational principle?
2) Our simulation/animation is under construction.
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nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #337 on: January 25, 2021, 12:45:53 PM »
Sit in an office chair, keep your back straight, swing two masses in front of you in opposite direction. You will be pulled as if someone pushed you.

Do it on water, ice, oil or free space, same effect.
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #338 on: January 25, 2021, 01:24:45 PM »
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Hi brother-inventor,
It's always a pleasure to correspond with you! :)
So let us do it! Are the two masses equal or differ in value? 
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #339 on: January 26, 2021, 01:33:29 PM »
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Some colleagues and I tried with an office chair according to your instructions, but we failed. May be we did not do things in the proper manner. Would you be so polite to describe in detail your office chair experiment? How exactly to do it? 
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #340 on: January 27, 2021, 03:56:21 PM »
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Where did you disappear, dear colleague? Would you be so polite to describe in detail your office chair experiment? How exactly to do it?
Because in our case something goes wrong.
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #341 on: January 29, 2021, 03:22:30 PM »
A member of our team, who is an expert in theoretical and applied mechanics, started writing formulas related to the office chair experiment. Well, the mathematics behind this rotational phenomenon is quite sophisticated. It will take some time to get some correct initial theoretical results.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #342 on: January 29, 2021, 03:29:55 PM »
body movement freedom degrees and physical translation : rotatory,translatory,linear

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirouetteneffekt
rotational

and

translational to linear
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katapult
https://www.pbslearningmedia.org/resource/hew06.sci.phys.maf.trebuchet/energy-transfer-in-a-trebuchet/

to feel what they mean :
go straight with two plastic bags,empty,in each hand one

go straight with two plastic bags ,filled with water or sand,in each hand one

a.arms with empty/filled bags down
b.arms with empty/filled bags moving to front and back
forefront/ward force and backward =counter force

Force positive and/or negative scalar and vector arrows !

                             or : one arm positive arrow and other negative arrow  ,experimenting !

human                                       Trebuchet
" A massive counterweight at one end of a lever falls because of gravity, causing the other end of the lever to rise and release a projectile from a sling. ..."                                                       effect

learning by doing ! ;)


"Trebuchet"-analog application and prototype :
 https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/read/20184764/otto-stein-die-zukunft-der-technik-pdf
page 30

http://www.borderlands.de/net_pdf/NET0904S25-30.pdf Felix Wuerth trials and experiments,financial fiasko
theories :
http://www.evert.de/ap0604.htm
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nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #343 on: January 30, 2021, 01:24:44 PM »
I did not do it, one woman did it with two heavy swords. I told her keep your back straight and just swing them in front of you horizontally in opposite directions.

She and the chair were pulled forward.

I can't believe this simplest of ALL natural phenomena is still not recognized.
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George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #344 on: February 01, 2021, 12:48:15 PM »
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Hi there,
Learning by doing! Well said! Perfectly agree with you! :)
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The last three links of your last post are written in German. No member of our team speaks German. How to translate these three texts in English? Aren't there some English versions/translations of these texts?
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