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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 78680 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #285 on: November 07, 2020, 03:51:01 PM »
1) Any comments, objections, recommendations?
2) A hot discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum. Our opponents in this forum are ME and agor95. Please follow the discussion, if you like. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #286 on: November 14, 2020, 11:48:38 AM »
A copy of our last post in besslerwheel.com/forum is given below. The title of the topic is the same. Some members of besslerwheel.com/forum simply reject the third Newton's law in order to save the law of conservation of mechanical energy and/or the law of conservation of linear momentum. (Are these people criminals? Or idiots)   
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To ME.
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YOU ARE NOT READING MY POSTS AT ALL! STOP IMITATE IGNORANCE! ARE YOU AN AGENT OF THE BIG MAFIA?
I AM EXPLAINING AGAIN SOME SIMPLE THINGS. KEEP IN MIND MY PREVIOUS POSTS.
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1) The experiment below is carried out in a space station under weghtlessness conditions.
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2) We can always choose a suitable combination of (1) sizes, masses and inertia moments of bodies 1 and 2 and (2) a spring, for which if the spring contracts, then an astronaut would see that (a) the longitudinal axis of symmetry of the spring is motionless, (b) the distance between the centers of mass of bodies 1 and 2 decreases, (c) each of the two identical dynamometers registers a force of 10 N, (d) body 1 rotates at an angle α and (e) body 2 rotates at an angle β.
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(Note 1. The centers of rotation of bodies 1 and 2 are their centers of mass, respectively. Besides bodies 1 and 2 rotate in the same direction, let's say clockwisely.)
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(Note 2. The force of 10 N, registered by each of the above mentioned two identical dynamometers, does not depend on decreasing of the distance between the centers of mass of bodies 1 and 2. This is because we use a spring of characteristic 4. Please refer to our previous posts.)
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3) In one word, a constant force of magnitude of 10 N is applied to the center of mass of body 1 and is directed to the center of mass of body 2. At the same time another constant force of the same magnitude of 10 N is applied to the center of mass of body 2 and is directed to the center of mass of body 1. Under the action of these two forces the centers of mass of bodies 1 and 2 move one to another in a straight line (the common line of action of the two forces coincides with the longitudinal axis of symmetry of the spring) and at the same time rotate clockwisely at angles α and β, respectively.
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4) Having in mind the text above can we conclude that body 1 exerts force G on body 2 and body 2, on its behalf, exerts force - G on body 1 as forces G and - G are equal in magnitude (10 N) and opposite in direction? Can we accept the validity of equality |G| = |-G| = 10 N = const.?
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(Note 3. Symbol G can be replaced by any of the symbols F, K, L, M, etc.; we can choose any capital Latin letter.)
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I hope that all of us here in this forum are honestly seeking for the truth and none of us here is arguing because of arguing itself.
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Looking forward to your answer.
George1
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #287 on: November 16, 2020, 11:08:48 AM »
A hot discussion occurs in besslerwheel.com/forum. The agents of the BIG MAFIA, supported by some random ignoramuses (arguing because of arguing itself), are doing their best and are making desperate efforts to smash the third Newton's law to smithereens in order to save the law of conservation of energy and/or the law of conservation of linear momentum. But how to reject an obvious truth?
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The copies of our last two posts in besslerwheel.com/forum are given below. The title of the topic is the same.
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POST 1.
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To ME.
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I have mentioned many times already that you are not reading carefully my posts (if reading them at all). YOUR ANIMATION DOES NOT PRESENT THE SITUATION CORRECTLY. THE RAMP AND THE BALL ARE FIRMLY ATTACHED ONE TO ANOTHER THUS FORMING ONE UNITED WHOLE, WHICH IS CALLED BODY 2. SO CORRECT YOUR ANIMATION!
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Further let us split the text of our last post into several sub-steps. Sub-step 1, which is given below, is limited/surrounded up and down by double dashed lines.
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SUB-STEP 1
1) The experiment below is carried out in a space station under weghtlessness conditions.
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2) We can always choose a suitable combination of (1) sizes, masses and inertia moments of bodies 1 and 2 and (2) a spring, for which if the spring contracts, then an astronaut would see that (a) the longitudinal axis of symmetry of the spring is motionless, (b) the distance between the centers of mass of bodies 1 and 2 decreases, (c) each of the two identical dynamometers registers a force of 10 N, (d) body 1 rotates at an angle α and (e) body 2 rotates at an angle β.
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(Note 1. The centers of rotation of bodies 1 and 2 are their centers of mass, respectively. Besides bodies 1 and 2 rotate in the same direction, let's say clockwisely.)
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(Note 2. The force of 10 N, registered by each of the above mentioned two identical dynamometers, does not depend on decreasing of the distance between the centers of mass of bodies 1 and 2. This is because we use a spring of characteristic 4. Please refer to our previous posts.)
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Question: Do you accept the validity of the above written SUB-STEP 1?
If yes, then you have to correct your animation for a second time, that is,
the spring must be motionless.
If not, then why?
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POST 2.
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An addition to our last post. More precisely, the longitudinal axis of symmetry of the contracting spring must be motionless. Correct your animation!
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #287 on: November 16, 2020, 11:08:48 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #288 on: November 17, 2020, 10:00:22 AM »
Please follow our discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #289 on: November 20, 2020, 10:59:18 AM »
Any comments, opinions, recommendations? Please follow our discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #289 on: November 20, 2020, 10:59:18 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #290 on: November 22, 2020, 04:48:36 PM »
Some questions, recommendations, opinions?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #291 on: November 23, 2020, 01:12:16 PM »
Deep silence again?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #291 on: November 23, 2020, 01:12:16 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #292 on: November 24, 2020, 10:16:42 AM »
Please follow the discussion on the same topic (the same title of the topic) in besslerwheel.com/forum. A member of this forum promised to make a third animation, which would help to clafify the situation.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #293 on: November 27, 2020, 10:20:48 AM »
Please follow the discussion on the same topic (the same title of the topic) in besslerwheel.com/forum. A member of this forum promised to make a third animation, which would help to clafify the situation. We are looking forward this third animation.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #293 on: November 27, 2020, 10:20:48 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #294 on: November 27, 2020, 03:54:49 PM »
besslerwheel.com/forum is full of agents of the big mafia who do their best to reject obvious truths. Tragedy!

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #295 on: November 28, 2020, 01:49:36 PM »
Please follow our discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum. The same topic and the same title. Seems to be interesting. A gang of professional rejectors against a single hero warrior. :)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #295 on: November 28, 2020, 01:49:36 PM »
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