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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 75090 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #270 on: August 08, 2020, 10:56:23 AM »
Please follow our discussion with ME (and before that with eccentrically1) in besslerwheel.com/forum. The title of the topic is just the same.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #271 on: August 15, 2020, 11:20:06 AM »
An interesting discussion occurs in besslerwheel.com/forum. The title of the topic there is just the same as mentioned in our previous post. Some guys in this forum are even ready to sacrifice the third Newton's law in order to save the false law of conservation of energy. Their arguments are absurd and ridiculous. I suspect them being agents of the BIG MAFIA.   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2020, 02:18:53 PM »
Please follow our discussion in https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum. Starts to be interesting.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #272 on: August 22, 2020, 02:18:53 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #273 on: August 25, 2020, 05:13:34 PM »
i think i already responded to this thread, i'm doing it again cause ppl often don't grasp this simple phenomena at first. so called reactionless or inertial propulsion comes down to a simple natural law which can be formulated as:

Unbalanced mass spinning 360° with varying speed or oscillating within 180° or less, accelerated and deccelerated at the axis, converts centrifugal force into linear acceleration.

in other words, any time you move an unbalanced mass, such as your arm, on an axis, you are breaking all the sacred "laws" of so called physics, namely,

law of action and reaction
law of conservation of angular momentum
and law of conservation of energy

or to put it more simply, you can literally swim in space

your mind will probably resist this, but how can it be, there must be a back reaction as you slow the mass down, but no, if mass if slowed down at the axis, inertia of the arm is converted into heat or magnetic breaking, no reaction.

consider also a fluid solution. imagine a circular pipe, bottom half 4 times the diameter of the upper, there is a pump inside the system,

in short, centrifugal force will be 4 x greater in upper part despite the fact that volume of water is 4 times less.

this is due to venturi effect (continuity principle), that water in narrower part speeds up proportionally to how much narrower pipe is (https://youtu.be/UJ3-Zm1wbIQ?t=97 ) and a fact that centrifugal force is proportional to velocity squared.

here calculate for yourself http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

of course increase of velocity means more friction and very low friction tube must be used, like electropolished stainless steel

of course, such design is not the best cause volume of water in bottom part is too big, this can be avoided using 45 degree knee due to a bernouli's principle, that is, that water loses pressure as it enters narrower part. as it exits into the wider part inertia is converted into static pressure (acting on all sides of the pipe) and there is no backward reaction.

picture below how it could be made

there are also other approaches to water inertial drives, like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIri1tTuaqU

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #274 on: August 25, 2020, 08:01:49 PM »
just to add to anyone questioning the water principle i described above.. there was on keeynet.com an account i can no longer find, also site is down since owner died.

account said a guy was driving on a mountain road somewhere in us, suddenly a saucer landed in front of him. from it emerged if i remember correctly 2 ordinary americans, they asked him if he has water to share. he said yes if they allow him to peek inside. they agreed.

inside he saw a tube or a pipe going all around the circumference of the saucer and this pipe was every so often narrowing upward then again expanding downward.

the problem with this system is how strong the pump has to be to achieve sufficient velocity of water or whatever fluid they used to lift itself and the craft.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #274 on: August 25, 2020, 08:01:49 PM »
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Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #275 on: August 29, 2020, 03:13:20 PM »
To nix85.
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Hi nix85,
Thank you for your replies.
1) Please give us some time to consider carefully your posts.
2) Please follow our discussion in https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum. Starts to become really interesting!

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #276 on: August 30, 2020, 03:59:18 PM »
To nix85.
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Hi nix85,
1) Need some more time to consider carefully your last posts.
2) Please follow our discussion in https://www.besslerwheel.com/forum.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #276 on: August 30, 2020, 03:59:18 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #277 on: September 05, 2020, 12:37:56 PM »
Please look again at besslerwheel.com/forum. An interesting discussion occurs in this forum. Some people there try constantly to imitate ignorance and stupidity. The latter is an elementary manipulation method and because of this we suspect these people for being agents of the BIG MAFIA. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #278 on: September 12, 2020, 02:36:38 PM »
A hot discussion occurs in besslerwheel.com/forum. Please follow it, if you like.



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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #278 on: September 12, 2020, 02:36:38 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #279 on: September 19, 2020, 04:51:36 PM »
Please look again at the interesting discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum. The agents of the big mafia (or may be these people are simply stubborn and ambitious ignorants) do their best to distort obvious facts. Very interesting! 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #280 on: September 26, 2020, 04:08:05 PM »
Please keep following the discussion at besslerwheel.com/forum.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #280 on: September 26, 2020, 04:08:05 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #281 on: October 04, 2020, 04:40:28 PM »
Please follow the interesting discussion between ME and George1 in besslerwheel.com/forum. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #282 on: October 18, 2020, 05:43:04 PM »
Keep an eye on our discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum. The title of the topic is just the same.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #283 on: October 24, 2020, 01:34:42 PM »
Deep silence again?
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Please keep an eye on our discussion in besslerwheel.com/forum.

 

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