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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 58551 times)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #225 on: January 18, 2020, 07:22:15 PM »
Well I never really liked airplanes, nor UFO's. I took the plane a couple times and I dont like it.

If you had a UFO and you invited me for a ride I would probably say no.

I like to sit comfortably here on earth, and my interests are in a device that produces electricity for free forever.

Building a UFO would be cool tho, but I would not fly in it.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #226 on: January 25, 2020, 09:19:53 AM »
Hi everyone,
Let us focus again on the target.
1) Firstly, please understand very well the meanings of Fc, Fc', d and d' described in the third link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/please_have_a_look.pdf.
2) Secondly, please answer the following simple question: "Can we choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0?" YES OR NO? (Is it so difficult to answer such a simple question? It is like a binary code -- 0 or 1.)
Looking forward to your answer.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #227 on: February 01, 2020, 09:30:36 AM »
Deep silence again? And still no answer?
1) Firstly, please understand very well the meanings of Fc, Fc', d and d' described in the third link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/please_have_a_look.pdf.
2) Secondly, please answer the following simple question: "Can we choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0?" YES OR NO?
3) Well, I will help. The correct answer is YES. And from here if you follow the simple logical construction link 3 --> link 1 + link 2, then you can conclude that IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ONLY either (1) the law of conservation of mechanical energy and the law of conservation of linear momentum are not correct simultaneously or (2) at least one of these two laws is not correct separately. Do you accept this simple fact? Yes or no?       
Looking forward to your answer.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #228 on: February 08, 2020, 09:42:00 AM »
Still no answer within a period of two weeks? I am surprised. :)Where are this forum's experts in theoretical and applied mechanics?
So I would like to repeat again the text of our last post. Here it is. 
1) Firstly, please understand very well the meanings of Fc, Fc', d and d' described in the third link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/please_have_a_look.pdf
2) Secondly, please answer the following simple question: "Can we choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0?" YES OR NO?
3) Well, I will help. The correct answer is YES. And from here if you follow the simple logical construction link 3 --> link 1 + link 2, then you can conclude that IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ONLY either (1) the law of conservation of mechanical energy and the law of conservation of linear momentum are not correct simultaneously or (2) at least one of these two laws is not correct separately. Do you accept this simple fact? Yes or no?       
Looking forward to your answer.
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #229 on: February 15, 2020, 09:39:21 AM »
Still no objections within a period of three weeks? It's really a full surprise!:) Is this an indicator that anyone here in this forum agrees with the validity and correctness of our zigzag conception?   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #230 on: February 22, 2020, 09:14:18 AM »
No objections within a period of one month? How to interpret this result? Everybody here in this forum agrees with the validity of our zigzag conception?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #231 on: February 28, 2020, 02:09:24 PM »
Deep silence within a period of more than one month? Shall we consider this silence as a public recognition of the fact that it follows directly from our conception that the law of concervation of linear momentum and/or the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not valid in some special certain cases?   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #232 on: March 02, 2020, 06:58:35 PM »
Off topic but some food for thought,


Something ultimately had the power to create the universe, if it was power to create nor destroy where you can't create or destroy then the universe would not exist.


Anybody would come to the same conclusion that something had the power to create, learned or unlearned, but science apparently is not there yet to fully understand the power to create.


This power to create i reckon is an unequal force unlike today where most people understand equal forces which does not enable over unity and over unity is power to create where it gives more out than in.


More out than in i say, because behind all of it, the universe somewhere ultimately had the power to create.


Even laws of energy as you know does not deny the fact that something had the power to create and these laws of energy as most people know state nothing will give more out than in and in defence of this in a circuit as the laws state cannot create nor destroy.

So outside of this impossible limitation, i believe there is something outside of the box of create nor destroy in a circuit, by using the force that the universe used to create it self or create whatever

If this power to create was an equal force well i let anyone who reads my post to conclude whether power to create is an equal force or not but when you think the backbone of all of it the universe, if it was equal force it doesn't make sense to me anyways.

I suggest you read this https://100777.com/spiritual/beings_having_a_physical_experience

One way or another you have to provoke zero point, what i mean is zero point is believed to have no energy in it, which i believe is not the full picture, this is a power to create force, if you provoke zero point energy will appear from it and you have to treat it as an unequal power to create force for energy to come from zero point and be quick enough to capture energy at the same time.

Has to be an open circuit otherwise your circuit will fry when provoking and capturing energy from zero point if it is a closed circuit.

You have to vibrate it and zero point will respond to you with energy unlike thinking it has none what so ever.

My 2 pence.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #233 on: March 03, 2020, 04:29:43 PM »
It is clear it seems actual overunity is impossible due to laws of energy but maybe,


Maybe well think of it this way, the heat pump an under unity device because of it's efficiency but has a cop greater than 1, this is because it extracts energy from environment which is heat and has oompf because of the cop greater than one and i will say that this interacts with the energy from vacuum or zero point which is where the oomph comes from.


So with the extracted heat you have to externally move this heat (in a open loop circuit manner to escape the laws of energy fully with its cut off ability which makes over unity impossible which is cop not efficiency which is closed loop circuit and its potential to self run with excess energy but does not break the laws of known energy when done in a open loop circuit manner i think) energy around out of the circuit otherwise you can't get a self running heat pump or shall i say using the extracted heat which gives it cop over 1.


Because you will hit a wall which cuts of the advantage of getting the heat pump to self run off extracted heat, but somehow externally get the heat out before it is cut off.


I say there is no limit as to how hot the heat pump will get if you run it off extracted heat which is what the heat pump outputs with cop greater than 1, but limited as to how much heat it can harvest in a way.


It definitely seems possible if you can rescue the potential of the cop before it gets destroyed or cut off advantage.


The whole idea of this is this, to get it to self run off the over cop 1 heat and reput it all back in the heat pump to re harvest this cop greater than 1 back in.


So you have to if there is a way, to externally do it, by fully getting the energy out of the circuit move it around and then put that energy back in to repeat the process.


As have said, this in a way is indeed perpetual because of the ommpf of cop greater than 1 but efficiency is lower than 100% so it is under unity but despite the efficiency it will self run on solely extracted energy and give excess energy in the process to run a load whilst sustaining it self off extracted energy.


It is possible to get it to self run if you know how to rescue the energy fully out of the circuit move it around and then put it back in the circuit which is where it extracts heat.


See it that way and yes it is like a self running solar panel and yes it does get it's power to self run from the vacuum or zero point it self.


Self running with cop greater than 1 but the efficiency is under 100%, you will say that because of the efficiency it won;t self run but no despite this, i view it like this friction but somewhere this does not prevent that because somewhere in the process there is no friction what so ever despite you knowing there is friction.


Yep easy to be confused thinking it of as a fraud due to not being crystal clear as to how it runs, because they view the efficiency and how it would work because it wouldn't unless they learn.

Compare this with everything that is over unity and you will have a better chance of achieving over unity or a self runner due to the cop (where most see it can self run and have excess energy in the process to power a load whilst sustaining the self running process along with excess energy entirely of extracted energy) but not efficiency  (where most see and understand that overunity is impossible) and i see it is indeed there can be a way to achieve if there is one.

So yea externally recueing the energy to save it's potential and then externally input the energy back in so it does not get killed off regarding the power or torque or the self running process with excess energy to power a circuit.

See it that way and it does seem possible and could or will work regarding you must you know about electronics but because i am going on about the heat pump is because to me it is unclear as to how electric circuits could extract energy from the environment like the heat pump but energy being universal and if the heat pump can do it then perhaps electronics can as well.

yep that under unity circuit can be fully be powered by harvested energy and using harvested energy to self run it with excess of power to power a load that is what i see and everyone else because of the cop being greater than 1 but everyone can see it won't work because of the efficiency and because of the efficiency this self runner gets killed of and won't self run or give cop greater than 1 which is why you have to externally rescue energy and externally put it back in again and there you go in a open looped circuit fashion i think.

Arguments about resistance in circuit or friction does not apply you do not need to do anything about it because automatically it has tha process to fully work despite everyone seeing that, maybe not everyone well not me which is what i have learned about that.

The compressor of the heat pump at the source is closed loop where it extracts heat from and the way this closed loop works kills off the ability to self run with excess energy which fully disables the self running process with excess energy but it can be done to make an open looped compressor for the heat pump enabling it to self run with excess energy running solely off extracted energy which is linked to energy from vacuum or zero point and actually gets the power from zpe or energy from vacuum yea self run by putting all of the extracted energy back into the bit where the heat pump extracts heat from, you will have a self runner with excess energy and because of the excess energy which comes from zero point or energy from vacuum where it can power loads or work which is does without a shadow of doubt and with the excess energy of over unity with cop not efficiency will get hotter and hotter with no limit as to how hot it gets as there is no limit as to how hot it gets, so with excess energy it will accelerate into oblivion done by the excess energy it self which means this has real power or torque to do work (energy extracted accelerated with excess let over energy which is over unity) or be destroyed because of how much accelerated energy you get so you have to find a way to control that which can be done.

See it that way and you know theoretically that is can be possible, or possible varying on how to overcome the problem but can work if the problem is overcome as we can all see.

This heat pump has to be designed as a fully open loop circuit but for the heat pump to make this a reality otherwise the closed loop circuit of the heat pump compressor will overload whilst cutting off the potential excess energy that you can so plainly understand and see here.

What does the laws of energy have to say about open loop circuits i mean fully open loop circuits or fully open looped heat pump compressor, it does not break them and the dream of a self runner with excess energy is much much more realistic and understood and will work as that which is self runner powering a load, and the excess energy potential gets it from zero point or energy from vacuum and the secret of zero point is that create nor destroy apply here and science does not deny that at all whatsoever about what created the universe which was caused by a unknown force which creates things which is more out than in and this is a power to create force which is plain to see because of excess energy going back to the backbone of creation it self which is zero point which is power to create and is not balanced but created the universe and is a perpetual force but will be very hard to explain if you knew about it fully.

Yep this is indeed a perpetual self runner thanks to zero point the backbone of what started it all which is the universe and if you understand energy well all i have to say it will be hard to explain why this creation force on it's own created the universe, which is power to create ok, so the way you understand energy well it is losses energy this power to create does not work simply put ok which science does not believe in ok well prehaps not every scientise.

The power to create which is zero point created the universe on its own has power to create so is a un balanced force on it's own so being unbalanced means that power to create certainly is there and will create energy which is impossible which is the dream of over unity it self which is more out than in which is power to create, because energy has to return back to it self so this power to create force right and all of its power to create returns back to it, just saying that to make you understand how hard it is to understand why it does that which it does.

Come to your own conclusion and theory as to how the universe was created and how this energy behaves, for me the self running process of heat pump along with excess energy is due to the unbalanced force of zero point which is power to create ok which you can fully understand from what you can see here.

Every scientist and science it self will agree something created the universe with varying opinion but agreeing with the fact about that for me it is power to create but science in its confusion or denial won't agree about power to create but see it this way, on it's own behind all creations which it created has the power to create and they will much more likely understand and agree fully with that because with all energy, energy returns back to it self so envision this, if this force wasted energy the universe would not exist or if there was friction or any kind of over unity and put your understanding of impossible over unity and try to think as to what created the universe and you might just buy that this force has power to create one way or another..

This power to create is the holy grail of free energy if understood fully and many methods would be understood as well, but the heat pump with excess energy demonstrates the potential of how it has the power to create the power to create is exactly that which is the excess energy done by power to create from the vaccum.

whether unkown or known known concepts of science you have been taught is the opposite of how zero point works simply put, use those conceptes and understand, understand this, this force which is zero point behind absolutly everything and that energy has to return back to where it came from and that this force created the universe.

If this force was combustion it would not have power to create, if this force was balanced and equal, it would not have the power to create, so think and ponder about that and everything you have been taught by science about energy about how the universe was created, for one energy loss means power to create is impossible just to clear things up, this force is mostly unknown as to how it behaves by mainstream science really they all believe something created the universe somewhere but this force by nature with current concepts of science is wrong about zero point because they are treating this force that is does not have power to create but it they understand that then they will be leaning on about that it does have a power creation to it which means it self generates with power to create which is unequal and gives more out than in because it is behind everything and that is how the energy returns back to it giving it the power to create, so much more less than nothing and more then everything is.

So on your own to think and conclude that every thing behind it all, all of creations universe and all and this is behind it all with energy returning back to it, what is it regarding the nature of this energy force whatever you want to call it and compare them as to what you know about energy.

What is impossible from what you know is the opposite of what i know and have said here, more like power to destroy so you get the opposite of more out than in i think which is what science is based on which is why circuits etc get hot.

The reason why zero point is called zero point i think is because nothing can be over unity ponder about that and you might agree it goes along with the wasted methods of science as well nicely in fact but is absolutely illogical to think of it this way, but the way they treat it they might just find out the perpetual power of power to destroy and their concepts will be shattered because of the perpetual nature of it.

So yea the self running heat pump fuelled by the cop 3 heat output when running and then using all of the cop 3 heat back in the heat pump, which accelerates the process to no end as to how hot it gets and while exceeding the behaviour of the energy will accelerate past self running the energy it needs to run and then if it keeps accelerating it will exceed in power.

This reusing heat is part of recycling the energy or heat which will enable exceeding of energy, the heat pump while closed loop does not kill off the heat harvesting process, if the heat harvesting process was closed loop it would not extract heat from the heat in the air, and with that, you have to make the entire design open loop which can be done, so it will enable it to recycle the heat to self run and the faster it gets it will exceed in power.

Hope that make sense, because cop of 3 should be enough to self run with extra exceeding power depending on the design on the heat pump or a heat pump turbine of whatever form of technology, i am certain this principle is possible and would work.

Exceeding of energy? self run? is this possible? yes because it has momentum of energy where torque or work can be done and i have said it will get hotter to no end by reusing the energy and the reused energy has extras momentum due to zero point energy interaction in the process and this extra momentum is the exceeding of energy and this momentum is unequal like acceleration where it get hot to no end and unequal just like zero point and unequal in power generation.

If that is not the case if it had no momentum of unequal acceleration it would not get hot to no end which is the opposite of exceeding energy.

By reusing the heat and is quite clear it encourages even more heat to be extracted even faster i'll let you to think if this is an equal force, equal force of acceleration, people who know the heat pump know it has no limit as to how hot it gets be reusing the energy outputting and then reused.

The cop factor of 3 is a unequal force though is it not? it could have left over energy after using it to self run with left over energy which is exceeding power though so i'll let you reason with all i have said here, as in does this force of left over energy have any real torque or work in it, where would the energy come from?

The exceeding power could exceed even more, it is like as if it has broken the sound barrier into the unknown, the left over power which is exceeding meaning you can power a load from it, but i do not know where the energy comes from (which sustains the exceeding power and it could be unstable volatile at same time this unstable nature of energy is the key of over unity or free energy it self (because the unstable nature i think enables the use of the fully unequal force of power to create from the vacuum somewhere)though you have been taught to make the circuit stable with what you have learned in school or university regarding electric or energy circuits like the cavity or water hammer effects this is no exception) and any case this has to be tested to be accepted as evidence, or instead of powering a load use the exceeding energy to get even more energy out of it in a unequal fashion i think by putting the left over exceeding power of momentum into the heat extraction process which accelerates the process and getting even more power out because of it and would not be equal to power in and power out, this process of using excess energy is not equal but you get way more power out due to the acceleration or bending energy or unequal force, it would quadruple it self perpetually.

The reason why the water hammer or cavity is that it is banging the energy of the vaccum zpe and the process it is like an injection of energy from the vacuum simply put and the unstable nature of it is unequal force so the unstable aspect is unequal, unequal as in perpetually unequal perpetually unstable, unstable which you have been taught to prevent fully in your circuits, but it gets killed off in a closed loop circuit but open loop would be a good idea.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #234 on: March 04, 2020, 03:58:41 PM »
Regarding the heat pump if you was to attempt this i think that the best approach is a fully open circuit that utilises parallel path technology maybe perhaps.

Yep whoever reads this all i have to say is theorize what created the universe, the power to create and the power creation force which is unknown.

If you put your current understanding while theorize it does not make sense or add up and is impossible with the way you see it but in denial or not knowing, not knowing the backbone behind everything where it outputs and then receives it back, regarding power to create and understanding energy which is like all connected or like a pack of dominoes it still does not make sense.

It would be impossible or very hard to explain and leave you speechless.

You cannot argue or discredit about what created the universe, all of mankind if they reason with, won't deny that if they have a open mind.

Even if they think if the power that created the universe does not have power to create which is what mainstream science wants to believe which does not make sense again because power to create can be idle doing nothing but the potential energy of power to create would be there or activated in a perpetual manner (which is what created the universe) and other unknown formality.

Also power to create does not convert it self fully but would somewhere, but the power to create is not a conversion force or conserving energy or converting energy which is what mainstream science and the flawed understanding of that regarding the heart of power to create.

So yea, that is my only defence of perpetual motion because a perpetual force created the universe if it wasn't the universe would not exist with reasoning they might just identify the power to create.

I am roughly am correct about that regarding the complexity of science.

Since every bit of creation has the power to create thanks to what created the universe and outputs and returns back to it in whatever state it is in, what would this force look like to you (if you can imagine or comprehend) unlike the massive problem of all forces are equal thinking which prohibit and is impossible to achieve real over unity or free energy which is what most people round the world can see like magnetic flux's and the like which is a struggle even for free energy pioneers around the globe as well as here in this forum or thread because they do not know about the power creation force and is working with partly flawed concepts and thinking that all forces are equal.

To me the creation power to create force and how i envision it, is that is accelerates to infinity getting longer in length as it accelerates instead of thinking all forces are equal though where it would not get longer in length, in a unequal fashion it quad quadruples it self instead of thinking all forces are equal.

There are things in science which also identify the process of when it accelerates it gets longer in length but it is an equal force and wastes energy where it can't recycle or enter energy in where this is totally different and alien at the same time.

What i am saying is that when it accelerates it is equal in acceleration which disables the core part of infinity, where this is opposite, it accelerates in unequal fashion and infinity is unequal, infinity is the speed of instantaneous never mind the limit of speed of light, the speed of light it self it out gunned by the power of infinity.

Infinity is instantaneous speed no matter the distance and within that thinking of it, will better comprehend as to why it goes off to infinity and power to create.

Because it is a very bendy force, it has to accelerate unequal because if it did not, infinity would not exist, if it accelerated in equal fashion it still would not make sense because of the limitations of equal forces where this is not, but if they can measure infinity that way they might come across signs that it is indeed an unequal force as to thinking it is equal.

Similar but yea this is a different breed of energy it self, it is not confined to the realms of forces being all equal in length.

If you try to measure infinity with a device that is limited to equal forces all i have to say either way, is that this energy is alien which is infinity as well as the device used to try and measure it.

speed of instantaneous is achieve with a unequal bendy force, the closer it is the slower it goes, but the further it gets the more it unevenly even further in length accelerates achieving instantaneous speed despite the distance which is the acceleration of free energy it self, sure it interacts with equal forces but yeah.

If you was at the far side of the universe or a few meters away it will be going at the speed of instant, and to achieve that infinity acceleration ultimately needs to be known fully to fully understand why this is the case.

It fits nicely as to people who talk about free energy or energy from the vacuum, knowing that this energy has those characteristics which is what i have said.

How would instantaneous speed be achieved if you was a few meters away or light years away in space it would have to be fully be unequal to reach the speed of instantaneous.

Hard to believe but i know it does go at the speed of instantaneous, if infinity speed was limit to speed of light then it would not be infinity and or have much less energy density that it does have.

Infinity has no limit as to how powerful it can be, right?

very difficult to explain but i did my best.

Dan.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #235 on: March 05, 2020, 10:19:54 AM »
So yea the extraction process is at a loss and the entire system losses energy as well.


But if you put all of the cop 3 heat extracted back and is open loop at the extraction point otherwise this potential energy gets killed off meaning that whilst losing energy the energy from the extracted heat overcomes all loses to have energy to self run and with left over energy at same time which is excess energy where with excess energy real work can be done, so it is running fully off extracted energy and yes this is perpetual indeed with this process in a way.

Like a self running solar panel that is indeed perpetual in a way, so buy the possible perhaps perpetual in a way because of my ranting about what created the universe and power to create, it is perpetual in a way because it gets that fully from energy from the vacuum, the power creation force and interacts with it, if it doesn't get killed off so yea this method of a self runner with excess left over energy is possible as well if restrictions where not in place like a closed loop circuit.


So yea the push pull thinking does not apply with how it self runs with excess energy or thinking all forces are equal which means that the excess energy bit does not comply with forces being equal which fits nicely with my thinking about power to create or what created the universe etc,

So the whole system is a loss, and the efficiency does not get in the way if you improvise to get past the bit where this potential energy does not get killed off like a fully open circuit, so the only thing it can run from is the cop over 1 which is 3.

So start the heat pump and then works and then use the extracted energy back in again and repeat the process and because energy diminishes due to the losses it will output through those losses to be able to fully self run with left over power.

See it is indeed perpetual being proven here because if it wasn't it would not work and also the universe would not exist because of power to create.

The perpetual force to get it to self run with excess power undeniably is banging on the door but with known electric circuit methods and what to do would kill off the perpetual force from being used.

This perpetual force ultimately does exist but with the way electronic circuits are done it fully ignores this perpetual force and using a method where none of this perpetual force can be used.

So if you see it as i do about heat pump self running off extracted heat with left over excess energy so from what you can plainly see here is the character of the unequal power to create force unlike what most people can see which is all forces being equal, just to help you in a way to think outside of the box.

Regarding the equilibrium where a wave of energy or hertz as it accelerates gains amplitude but is within the equilibrium which means that the power is equal and can never achieve power to create, where as the equilibrium for power to create the equilibrium well let's just say the power to create exists outside the known limits of the equal equilibrium, some scientists theory that this could be the case where it exists outside of known limits and the limits fully prevent power to create process.

Regarding the entire understanding of the equal equilibrium right means that nothing can create or destroy ok so i believe there would be a power to create equilibrium or a power to destroy equilibrium, because well if the equilibrium was equal the universe would not exist at all and if tested there would be some evidence to say there is indeed a unequal equilibrium, ponder with this as well as taking my theory with a pinch of salt.
 
An unequal equilibrium going at the same rate as power to create so the equilibrium it self gains power and amplitude as it accelerates and perpetually increases, unlike a wave confined in a equal equilibrium where it accelerates and gains amplitude similar really but yes.

Between fully testing all equilibrium or the balanced equilibrium there would be evidence that would mean that there is a unequal equilibrium as well as other discovery's.

If the universe was created with a equal equilibrium something out of bounds that violates the limits or laws of the equal equilibrium would be detected fully and breaking all the laws of the equal equilibrium and this out of bounds means the unequal power of it all as to how the creation process works and the power creation is the holy grail of free energy.

I think zero point was detected like that, this out of bounds power means zero because it violates the equal equilibrium fully which it was tested on and is breaking all the known laws of it as well, well both complying and breaking it same time , it is the same when detecting something that goes faster than the speed of light which also was detected but sadly scientists resign over it but would have been a game changer and a winner at same time.

I already know zero point is the backbone of power to create or destroy but scientists are clued up and do not know it fully, the nature of the known zero point is bypassing the limits of the equal equilibrium, next comes is how is that so? well it is unequal power by nature breaking the equal equilibrium and if discovered further will discover the perpetual power to create or destroy in that, because zero is a wave bypassing the impossible to break equal equilibrium simply put, and is a alien different breed of energy.

As the zero point wave propagates further in a balanced equal equilibrium meaning it is not confined to all the laws of energy of the equal equilibrium but bypasses this, the wave of zero point propagates further because it is unequal power within a equal equilibrium and this is how it generates power or what created the universe and is perpetual.

The way the potential energy which causes zero point to propagate further is because it is unequal perpetual power which created and powers the universe and it is where all energy comes from because zero point is the backbone of creation and is behind every single creation and if zero point can't create it self then the universe would not exist in a equal equilibrium, so if the big bang that created the universe happened in a equal equilibrium the universe would not exist, because it can't create it self in a equal equilibrium, because the equal equilibrium is cannot create or destroy and this foundation cannot be rocked whatsoever but the nature of zero point would rock it fully with proof it bypasses the equal equilibrium.

Regarding that equal equilibrium it would both be possible and impossible as in confined in the equal equilibrium to break the laws of energy within the equal equilibrium, because the zero point propagation wave shows it won't stop expanding they have to stabilise the circuit by cutting the potential of this energy fully so it cannot well behave as it does in a perpetual nature, where if it bypasses you would not need to, the perpetual nature of it causes it to have no limit as to how much this energy expands, it is unlimited and perpetual indeed by nature and within it's ability to be unlimited they might just find the key of unlimited power and discover it's perpetual power because as it expands within the expand process a unequal perpetual force would be there.

Zero point it self will never measure equal equilibrium because it violates all known laws of physics that corresponds with the equal equilibrium but if it did this force won't be called zero point, and that is due to the perpetual nature of it.

So if scientists with their science equipment that can detect speeds that go faster than light then the same can be applied to the measurement of zero point in various factors and somewhere will pinpoint the unequalness of it which breaks the all known laws of the equal equilibrium, i would say to them that they have found a unequal perpetual power to create force which is the backbone of all creations and is the holy grail it self.

Hopefully does not get suppressed.

Either way to me regarding the self running heat pump i am on about, this is translated everywhere in the science world where devices solely run off extracted energy with cops greater than 1 but the efficiency and overall design losses energy every way but the cop greater than one overcomes all these losses all together and works as a self runner with excess left over unity energy but in a wasted manner because that is where the power torque or work can be done and can be possible to work fully.

So like a self running solar panel in everything, see it that way and it would be easy to understand and work if they can make it work but is not impossible though.

Yep running like a self running solar panel, running off cop greater than 1 which sustains and gives left over excess power to fuel a load even with all losses which don't prevent this process just a lesser cop but still over 1 when energy exits from the circuit self running as well as excess energy even with the supposed efficiency which prevents this fully but no because you need to do nothing about that as in the energy process it solves that, either with a zero point device that harvests subatomic energy in that manner or a heat pump which is what i was on about with heat, exact same principle with the self running heat pump i was talking about but with zpe subatomic interaction all of this, same principle but with electronics etc, the whole system at a loss, but the cop greater than 1 enables it to self run with a loss and with left over energy at a loss to power a load and actually work like that which is a self running solar panel with excess power in the process and yea it is indeed perpetual in a way because it gets its energy from zero point or power to create or the perpetual process.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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« Reply #236 on: March 06, 2020, 09:39:00 AM »
The energy dissipation it self at the heart of it where it causes the circuit to get hot is ultimately not caused by a equal force where all forces are equal, but is the opposite of equal and thus causes the circuit to get hot and leads in a unbalanced unequal perpetual state going all the way down to zero point it self, and in zero point it has that perpetual power, i mean it was thought zero point had no energy but it does, and if you yank it or cause a vibration etc , it will cause energy to appear and be extracted within the vacuum it self whether balanced or not perpetual or not it will cause the vacuum to vibrate and get energy maybe getting the energy created by a perpetual power to destroy which is hot and is what zero point so where on earth would the energy come from if you cannot create or destroy and if all force being equal if it was all forces being equal you would never get energy from the vacuum whatsoever but was ultimately proven in science that energy does come from the sole power of zero point so yea meaning from a self powered perpetual state of energy where it is the back bone behind it all and returns back to it, meaning what i have said about all my rantings about power to create or power to destory, it self generates giving more out than in which is power to create or negative electric or power or the dead opposite of that is power to destory.

Every time you cause energy to be extracted from the vacuum every time you do that activates the perpetual power at the same time and due to the perpetual power it enables power to be extracted from the vacuum/zero point with whatever method, the perpetual power it self when active enables energy to be extracted from vacuum/zero point, if not then you can't extract energy from vaccum/zero point.

The perpetual power nature of it, is the catalyst or key which it self enables power to be extracted from the vacuum whether the extracted energy is equal or perpetual science with its non perpetual thinking thought it had no power which is dead opposite as to what they have found, it ultimately does have energy.

So getting energy from zero point is getting energy from the sole perpetual power of it in whatever form i.e. balanced equal force where all forces are equal or not unequal force.

It can be hot or cold, as in hot electric (unequal positive perpetual power to destroy where all circuits get hot) or cold electric (unequal negative perpetual power to create where all circuits get cold) regarding energy dissipation the momentum or potential of it is perpetual.

For one the collapsing field technique right is utilising the perpetual power process the collapsing field is unequal perpetual nature based way to get perpetual power, like in the same way you vibrate the vacuum to gain energy which is established in science and works the same way regarding the casmir effect, the only way it can self run with excess energy is the self running with excess energy heat pump i am on about regarding the cop over 1 regarding the collapsing field technique and forget the limits of efficiency it wont disable this potential to self run with losses with excess energy with losses so design it that way.

The collapsing field of course will draw energy from the environment and is indeed perpetual in a way because of the laws of energy converting or conversion which does not add in as to what created the universe and the way this converting conversion law works means that is wastes the energy in the process where as if you did not waste it will be banging on the door of negative cold electric power to create force , the collapsing field enables it to tap into the vacuum and it externally gets rescued and externally put back in to save it from the conversion/conserving law effect and this conversion or conserving law effect is different between a closed loop circuit where it cuts of the extraction ability or open where it does not cut off the extraction ability so with negative perpetual power to create cold electric the same can be applied to work fully, in a parallel fully open circuit which enables the energy extraction but then comes the problem of negative power to create force so it will enable it self to self run with excess power which can be done just like the problem of efficiency preventing it to self run with excess power which can be solved and i already know and in same way to allow negative power to enter so with power externally saved before the potential gets cut off right which will bang on negative cold electric power to create ok before it does it gets fully rescued and then externally put in again, this is all part of reusing the energy which recycles and the potential bangs on negative energy so with external energy put out then in, it harvests that energy to give it potential which it does and would exceed in power which is negative again so the circuit has to be parallel path fully open looped system so it does not get cut off, exactly the same with the self running heat pump with excess power or a self running solar panel with excess energy powered by the power to create force which created the universe and is negative cold electric power with losses every in the circuit and the losses in the entire circuit can't cut off the potential perpetual power to create energy anywhere which is cold and negative and alien at same time because the circuit is fully open and parallel at same time so it will work same with the self running heat pump with excess left over energy as a self running solar panel with a perpetual process.

So if you manage to achieve a self running solar panel with excess energy, with the whole system at a loss, like the heat pump i am on about, it is perpetual in a way and the potential this the perpetual force will be there and is an alien negative power to create energy right out of the box, so if you understand positive hot circuits it will be hard to understand the opposite equivalent of this and the electronic parts needed will be hard to get due to understanding of electronics etc which is parts designed for hot circuits not cold.

So yea regarding energy dissipation, this energy dissipation whether it is hot or cold, exists in a non equal perpetual equilibrium unlike a non perpetual equal equilibrium where every person understands so to understand better this better is wave propagation and how this force manifests, especially working out wave propagation with energy dissipation and maybe just find the key of perpetual power.

The way i see the casmir effect is it can be adapted to run solely off extracted energy with left over energy which is excess energy (and this excess energy potential is negative unlike where every circuit is hot and wastes energy)and i view the casmis effect device to be working like the same principles of the overunity meg device and it works fully like a self running solar panel with excess energy exactly like the self running heat pump i am on about and the excess energy potential is negative power electric (power to create) like the heat pump, if they ever find waves which they can to achieve this with the wave length, i mean studying the wave length of the self running heat pump with excess energy which is negative and they have to find that negative power to create energy for that to happen using the power creation process that created the universe which is fully alien negative energy.

You can clearly see the potential of the cold negative electric(power to create) force within reasoning thinking that a cop over 1 can indeed self run with excess energy so there you go, negative energy banging on the door and this is one way out of many to tap negative cold energy/electric unlike the opposite hot circuits and i believe that both hot or cold energy dissipation is incompatible with each other but take that with a pinch of salt.

Even if the potential of cold negative electric(power to create) force which is hard to understand is likely to be interpreted as some alien force and with current understanding of hot heat electrical dissipation, so the potential is undeniably there which is the cold negative electric(power to create) force and is trying to manifest in your circuit so it really does exist as that despite not manifesting could be interpreted as a unstable phenomena where the potential is polar opposite compared to a hot force when this is polar opposite cold force, the current understanding of laws of energy is not fully complete.
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« Reply #237 on: March 06, 2020, 07:34:27 PM »
I think single wire transmission is the key to tap into energy much more easy to understand.


Not much is known about single wire transmission well not to me anyways.

You could tune single wire transmission like a radio to suck in energy to whatever source of energy be it earth etc and the return i think will obviously harvest energy coming back in.

I think Tesla himself intended to use the simple physics of the single wire transmission to tap into energy sources and the process will indeed gather energy and suck it in the process.

Instead of thinking of using something else that is not single wire i think tesla did not treat it this way.

Using single wire transmission will solve a lot of problems and the dream of free energy is better accomplished this way, this single wire transmission works like an energy pump tapping into whatever source of power when it returns back to the single wire because it is open loop half in and half out.

Electrons attract electrons simple to understand with the single wire transmission and putting that energy into earth will do just that with single wire, it is like tapping into electrostatic of the earth which can power many city etc.

Or tapping into wheel work of nature via single wire transmission simple to understand.

If you apply single wire physics into everything then free energy devices will be much better understood so take that with a pinch of salt but yeah.

It would tap into the invisible electric network of the earth with invisible moving stator's and the like which is the wheel work and it in harmony with single wire transmission.

We need to know the full physics of single wire etc, because i can see that it has big potential to set us free from oil gas coal etc,

Yea big potential and very realistic free energy extraction and the like.

In the world of free energy all the designs etc, if it is not possible that it will run and exhausted every option, just apply single wire physics to it then it will be much more understandable.

Like a open ended receiver where you input energy and get energy out via single wire, and this way you have tapped into whatever energy source because energy in causes energy extraction and then outputs all of that and can self run with excess power at same time within the circuit that is, just like this self running heat pump with excess power and this does not break any known laws of energy at all really.

The limitations of electric is i think overcome with single wire physics and enables power extraction much more easy.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #238 on: March 07, 2020, 10:06:15 AM »
Hi IItfdaniel1,
Hi Dan,
Thank you for your reply.
You are obviously an educated person but you have written a whole textbook, my friend! :) You really tell us many interesting facts which are true by themseves but which are not related to the present topic however. Please focus on the topic, if possible.
Looking forward to your answer.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #239 on: March 07, 2020, 02:47:10 PM »
Thank you yes, i could not help my self.

Anyways i went on about that because giving food for thought, to discover possibly how this alien energy works which is power to create and how it behaves because it isn't a well known source of potential power but is would be easy to identify what it is with simplified physics.

I might be wrong but, scientists believe zero point won't go beyond zero point, if that was the case then the getting energy from it is impossible, no? - this confirms in someway that i am correct > https://phys.org/news/2019-10-quantum-vacuum-energy.html this energy is a different kettle of fish because zero point is sustained by positive as in positive to positive perpetual that is fully frozen as it amounts to zero and cannot self perpetuate on it's own and idle energy transfer and fully positive to positive.

What i am trying to say regarding nature of zero point, is that positive follows positive, and is fully positive with nothing negative in it what so ever, unlike conventional electric where positive follows negative.


But if it comes in contact with negative energy then it cannot utilize the negative energy whatsoever (but for it to go beyond zero however it has to interact with negative and this is the only way of doing it as in techniques of communication between positive and negative and must be explored) because the nature of the energy with this cannot be positive follows negative it ultimately does not work like that if not then science would be able to get energy but have not, even super intelligent extra terrestrial ruler of the universe will agree as to how incompatible it really is, even he would have great trouble with it as in trying to get it to work etc but then if quantum mechanics energy interchange works between the positive and negative forces then there is a possibility (incompatible because when positive collides with negative this is the only process i know of same way it causes it to go under zero)because energy does actually appear to zero point but there is no known way as to how to get energy from it, as in getting energy solely from zero point, but if they identify negative energy then they would make some progress to tackle this hard reality because the energy that appears to zero point (energy that comes and goes out of existence which comes from the negative)is coming from the negative incompatible force obviously so in some way mainstream science knows about negative energy which is power to create and its energy dissipation is cold unlike hot circuits that most of mankind uses.
 
I whole heartily do not recommend going beyond zero because the understanding of zero point or quantum mechanics, zero point is the ultimate prison for energy and i am right about that.

I with my theory i think it goes beyond zero point in the process gets energy interaction (where both negative and positive cannot collide in a way where positive and negative in electric circuits and create a anti lenz force so in that way)that way in a perpetual way when negative collides with positive it causes some interesting effects, take that with a pinch of salt but has to be tested, i believe it that zero point is positive explosive energy perhaps and the dead opposite is incompatible with it which is the negative opposite equivalent of it, and the way it gets energy regarding zero point gets it from the perpetual power to create where as zero point is power to destroy and thus incompatible but vibrates in a perpetual fashion against the negative implosive energy.

The perpetual power of zero point which is hot explosive positive power to destroy energy, cannot perpetuate on it's own (because it is a mimic of a force) and if it can't then energy from zero point is impossible and this is what science fully believed in the first place, so it has to get the perpetual power from the negative power to create force by vibrating the dormant perpetual power of zero point it against the perpetual negative power to create to get it to perpetuate and thus get energy with the inter exchange of energy between positive explode zero point and the incompatible power to create.

So when the two incompatible forces vibrate causing a perpetual effect, within the inter exchange of energy where it cancels each other in a way just to make it easier to understand out actually causes a perpetual effect so negative and positive can work like that and all other unknown methods just like that, instead of getting no energy regarding cancelling of positive and negative regarding magnets (regarding anti lenz law effect) but if you do this with zero point positive and power to create negative instead of cancelling each other out due to the nature of zero point would actually create a perpetual effect indeed well the effect ultimately would have caused something for sure unlike being completely landlocked because zero point is the ultimate prison of energy.

The energy potential of going below zero is a fully perpetual effect, if all energy being equal then well it would never go below zero.

So change of subject, regarding broken symmetry from http://www.cheniere.org/references/brokensymmetry.htm is crucial to enable the solar panel effect but instead of the sun but receiving energy from the vacuum like the sun, and if you excite energy in this manner regarding broken symmetry it would knock on negative energy power to create potential and work like a solar panel but with that potential.

So regarding zero point (positive power to destory) and the (negative power to create) like when two forces cancel each other out regarding electronic magnets, but with this different kettle of fish where the nature of beyond zero is fully a completely unequal force that breaks the all forces being equal right in the bin ok science that treats the interaction between positive and negative right, they cannot do any energy interaction because they do not believe in perpetual power and are using the converting or conserving energy and they can't get anywhere with that regarding understanding the sole power of zero point.

Anyways,



I can't add anything to the current topic so i will be quiet now,

Dan.
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