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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 131379 times)

Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #675 on: May 15, 2021, 12:32:03 AM »
Someone calls me a clown, what do you do? Respectfully say "there aren't any clowns on this forum, only dedicated researchers", or throw in a 'clown' joke, signifying it's ok to talk about clowns?


And my time IS more valuable than some others', because I'm at a more advanced level, with multiple projects. The same time it took me to post my Ed Gray thread WOULD have allowed me to finish my new commutator. By the time my 'two week notice' was up, something else came up which has to be dealt with. So the commutator is still just sitting there, half finished. And I can't help but resent that; forum participation is not to my advantage.


It's just that this forum isn't the right place to post information which isn't available anywhere else on the Internet. And I don't have to "pour some water out of my glass before I can receive new water". I have other ways to extend my paradigm.


And how many people here believe every word of Aaron Murakami's "smear campaign", without giving me any chance to respond?


Later days.

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Offline Floor

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #676 on: May 15, 2021, 03:15:58 AM »
I don't even know who Aaron Murakami is, nor really any thing about that.
Maybe vaguely so ?  I'm not really sure though.  But I don't think so.
I do the O.U. forum and no others.

I do know from personal experience, what its like to be sieged 
by a troll or group of trolls, so on...

Some times I'm too defensive, too much on the guard, hyper sensitive
about my projects. 

I think I dished out some blow back / the residue still on me,  from
some of  my own past and unpleasant internet encounters.

Please accept my apology
   again
     respectfully
        floor

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #677 on: May 15, 2021, 12:13:55 PM »
To Jerry Volland.
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First of all please excuse me, if I have insulted you. I am really sorry about this!
Nobody presses you to accept anything. You could carry out the experiments, if you like. (But if you decide to experiment, then please follow strictly the instructions in the video.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #677 on: May 15, 2021, 12:13:55 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #678 on: May 15, 2021, 03:24:44 PM »
to counteract the immense disinformation and unnecessary derailing drama
let's just repeat the key point

if you are floating in space and you swing a mass in front of you

you will accelerate linearly + you will start to spin around your own axis

if you swing two same masses in opposite directions

you will experience pure linear acceleration

you can LITERALLY swim in space

Offline lancaIV

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #679 on: May 15, 2021, 03:34:11 PM »
to counteract the immense disinformation and unnecessary derailing drama
let's just repeat the key point

if you are floating in space and you swing a mass in front of you

you will accelerate linearly + you will start to spin around your own axis

if you swing two same masses in opposite directions

you will experience pure linear acceleration

you can LITERALLY swim in space


it depends from "space"-definition :


I.S.S.- outer board repair/work  the astronauts ever fixed by line and/or magnet boots !


                                                           Not in space reality !
https://overunity.com/17817/is-this-a-reactionless-drive-or-a-perpetual-motion-machine/dlattach/attach/181634/image//


                 Beside strong and radical radio-active radiation ! Included https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_ray


                 Space/Cosmos average temperature (?) :
                  https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weltraum

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #679 on: May 15, 2021, 03:34:11 PM »
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Offline nix85

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #680 on: May 15, 2021, 03:38:43 PM »
so what if astronauts are tied up or attached to hull by magnetic boots

if their rope broke and they had no little thrusters on the suit,

they would accept their faith and die...when actually they

could swim back to the station if they only knew they could

and who is talking about radiation, why you post unrelated stuff

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #681 on: May 15, 2021, 03:44:47 PM »


could swim back to the station if they only knew they could ;D

https://arxiv.org/abs/1912.05972


and who is talking about radiation, why you post unrelated stuff


https://overunity.com/17817/is-this-a-reactionless-drive-or-a-perpetual-motion-machine/dlattach/attach/181634/image//


their suit ! their Oxygen tank ! .........






Pardon,but Your given image remembers me https://www.rubylane.com/item/827205-19April052/Amazing-Sea-Monkeys-sea-monkey-Mom


reclam in the End-70´ !


Kinderkram !

 A little complicated -the right mix  on earth/in space -the breathing : 


 https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.blauhoehle.org/index.php/technik


and how fast the human body shall swim back to I.S.S. ?


https://www.google.com/search?q=iss+geschwindigkeit&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=iss+geschwindigkeit&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l4j0i22i30l5.9187j1j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


                                        7,66 km/s the station mass velocity
                             
                                                         lecture for pupils :
https://www.dpg-physik.de/veroeffentlichungen/publikationen/broschueren-buecher/schulheft_mit-astronauten-ins-weltall-2.pdf

Together with its solar modules, the ISS is as big as a soccer field: about 80 by 100 meters.
Its mass is almost 500 tons, the interior corresponds to the volume of two passenger aircraft


And this 27 000 Km per hour I.S.S. velocity only as "artificial moon" from an 100 000 Km per hour velocity moving Éarth
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.geo.de/wissen/weltall/18177-rtkl-endlich-verstehen-warum-merken-wir-nichts-davon-dass-die-erde-mit-mehr-als


                                                                                  ;D


                                              velocity by gravity but without air resistance :


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.swr.de/wissen/1000-antworten/wissenschaft-und-forschung/1000-antworten-1384.html%23:~:text%3DGravitationskraft%2520und%2520Luftwiderstand%26text%3DDas%2520bedeutet%253A%2520Ohne%2520Luftwiderstand%2520w%25C3%25BCrden,km%252Fh%2520und%2520so%2520weiter.




That means: Without air resistance, we would be 9.81 m / s per second in free fall - that's the equivalent of 35 km / h - faster: after two seconds we fall at 70 km / h, after 3 seconds at 105 km / h and so on further. After a minute we would have a speed of 2,100 kilometers per hour - so we would have broken the sound barrier long ago.

           and these all realities compared with nix85 his


STILLLEBEN https://overunity.com/17817/is-this-a-reactionless-drive-or-a-perpetual-motion-machine/dlattach/attach/181634/image//


                                         ;)  man koennte dieses auch als "Naive (Weltenraum)Malerei " titulieren

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #681 on: May 15, 2021, 03:44:47 PM »
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Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #682 on: May 16, 2021, 12:46:56 PM »
Here are our last REAL experimental results.
1) Please look again at the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX14NK8GrDY&t=330s
2) From 3:45 to 3:48 we have Ma = 1 kg, Mb = 4 kg and V1 = 0.1 m/s. (Please consider only the "upper" zigzag device.)
3) From 3:59 to 4:01 we have Ma = 1 kg, Mb = 4 kg, V2 = 0.06 m/s and  V3 = 0.01 m/s. (Please consider only the "upper" zigzag device.)
4) (1 kg) x (0.1 m/s) = ((1kg) x (0.06 m/s)) + ((4kg) x (0.01 m/s)). The last equality unambiguously shows the validity of the law of conservation of linear momentum in this particular case.
5) (0.5) x (1 kg) x (0.1 m/s) x (0.1 m/s) > ((0.5) x (1 kg) x (0.06 m/s) x (0.06 m/s)) + ((0.5) x (4 kg) x (0.01 m/s) x (0.01 m/s)). The last inequality unambiguously shows the invalidity of the law of conservation of mechanical energy in this particular case.
6) How to reduce friction inside the zigzag channels? The answer is simple -- by using permanent magnet slides. (There are literally hundreds of permanent magnet slide designs in YouTube and in Google.) Please look at the links below for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQH2UhHss6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXQqfIb-NXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4VGJCZUYE
7) The permanent magnet slide design:
a) reduces friction (and the related generated heat) practically to zero;
b) reduces the experimental error (due to friction and to the related generated heat) practically to zero.
8) And if the above mentioned experimental error is practically equal to zero, then this experimental error can be neglected (as it is much smaller than 1 %).
9) Alternatively you can use electrostatic levitation, rolling friction instead of sliding friction, etc. Besides modern tribology (this is the science, which focuses on sliding/friction phenomena) suggests a great variety of high-tech materials and/or lubricants' which are also able to reduce sliding friction (and the related generated heat) practically to zero.
10) In one word, you can carry out easily the above mentioned experiments in your garage or in any standard school laboratory (or by using any other simple DIY (DoItYourself) methods).
Looking forward to your comments.
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P. S. The above yellow head with the black spectacles must be read as number 8. (The system generates some permanent defect.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #683 on: May 17, 2021, 12:33:05 AM »
interesting patent, but not clear if he tested this
or exactly how it's supposed to work

for example figure 2 below, he has this arm to
divert water from the bottom part and create
imbalance of centrifugal force

but diverted water will push down on the arm
so this doesnt seem right

figure 5 with slanted parabolic dish appears to
be different, along the lines of water principle i
shared. its not clear if these two are the same
thing or what

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3979961

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #684 on: May 17, 2021, 03:07:53 PM »
To nix85.
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My respect to your enthusiam and diligence! This is the way for pushing forward the technology progress!
Regards,

Offline Floor

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #685 on: May 17, 2021, 03:23:25 PM »
To nix85.
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My respect to your enthusiam and diligence! This is the way for pushing forward the technology progress!
Regards,

Yes ! I agree !

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #686 on: May 17, 2021, 03:38:48 PM »
Please look again at our post of May 16, 2021, 12:46:56 PM.
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1) 0.1 kg.m/s = 0.1 kg.m/s. The last equality shows the validity of the law of conservation of linear momentum in this particular case.
2) 0.005 J > 0.002 J. The last inequality shows the invalidity of the law of mechanical energy in this particular case.
3) Modern (and even not so modern) technologies allow reducing of friction to a certain value/limit, beyond which the experimental error (due to friction) becomes negligible (less than 1 %).
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Looking forward to your comments.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #687 on: May 17, 2021, 06:57:20 PM »
Thank you both.

Yesterday i figured my idea with springs is flawed for the reason
i suspected.

If you have two balls on arms joined at a pivot and you got a spring
connecting two balls, balls are gonna clash together in a straight line
pushing the pivot downward.

Guy who built it said it jumped in the air but then bounced back down.
So obviously there is centrifugal pull but also this effect canceling it.

Springs were just an idea to simplify demonstration of the basic principle
which stands perfectly.

Basic principle, again, refers to accelerating/decelerating counterrotating
unbalanced masses on the axis.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #688 on: May 18, 2021, 09:18:59 AM »
To nix85.
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This rotation-based principle obviously has many variations. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #689 on: May 18, 2021, 09:23:26 AM »
The text below is a copy of our post of May 17, 2021, 03:38:48 PM.   
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1) 0.1 kg.m/s = 0.1 kg.m/s. The last equality shows the validity of the law of conservation of linear momentum in this particular case.
2) 0.005 J > 0.002 J. The last inequality shows the invalidity of the law of conservation of mechanical energy in this particular case.
3) Modern (and even not so modern) technologies allow reducing of friction to a certain value/limit, beyond which the experimental error (due to friction) becomes negligible (less than 1 %).
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Looking forward to your comments.

 

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