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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 152860 times)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #615 on: April 30, 2021, 07:05:05 PM »
forget mars, space plane/station that can change orbit at will to any height and direction
around earth.

all this is possible with a device a child can basically make. simple arm with magnet
and two electromagnets on the sides to sustain the oscillation and bit of solar power

how ironic is the human blindness, infinite, endless blindness

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #616 on: April 30, 2021, 07:23:26 PM »
I'm not going to forget about Mars. That's why I spent so much time learning the simplest principle for lift off.


Blindness is a refusal to see non planar effects. Which is off topic to this thread. Still, I'm not one of those who are blind.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #617 on: April 30, 2021, 07:54:57 PM »
again you take things literally and personally and misinterpret them
i was just pointing out the possibilities of such simple method of propulsion

when you refer to "non planar effects" you must be clear about what exactly you mean

you were blind to this simplest yet very powerful principle, principle that needs no complex contraptions of questionable functionality, but extremely simple yet undeniable
method for producing continuous linear thrust in any medium

it's fine, virtually everyone is

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Offline Jerry Volland

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #618 on: April 30, 2021, 08:27:22 PM »
Quote: "You were blind to this simplest yet very powerful principle"

Do you mean, like, me personally?
 
And I get the impression that you think the system under consideration will not be brought to a stop by resetting the plungers. Care to elaborate?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #619 on: April 30, 2021, 08:44:02 PM »
BTW, I do have a life outside the Forum, and now that I'm part of the new X-Prize competition, I need to spend less time jabbering and more time working on the new carbon sequestration project. If I can show significant progress after one year, I'll get a million dollar Milestone Award. (Grand Prize: $50 Million).


But I'll still check in, to see if I can provide any help which might be appreciated.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #620 on: April 30, 2021, 09:38:02 PM »
of course it won't come to a stop, as long as the arm oscillates whole system accelerates.
well, you were blind to this basic principle of keeping oscillation within 180 degrees.
you questioned it since i first mentioned it. that is fine, cause i was once blind to it
too and thinking in overly complicated terms myself. 99,99% inertial tinkerers still are.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #621 on: April 30, 2021, 09:58:09 PM »
circa in 2014 i came up with concept similar to this one and thought no one else did, then i saw this and other videos and much older designs going all the way to tesla's stove
how ashamed i was and still am a bit. it's always like that, we think we invented something only to find it's been done long time ago

it was not exactly like this, i sketched it roughly below so you get an idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhGcvuFj_bI

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #622 on: April 30, 2021, 10:21:56 PM »
Still hung up on your 'kinetic energy' system? I've seen a dozen patents like that and every one of them require "skill in the art", an additional force application, to make them work. When I built something like that and put it on a platform with four corner suspension lines, all that happened was the platform kept moving in a small circle.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #623 on: April 30, 2021, 10:41:05 PM »
my system? it's not my system, it's a simple natural principle
and it's not energy but propulsion system.

your device may just wobble, but this principle works
constant linear acceleration as long as pendulum oscillates

https://youtu.be/JGLrVgYdpRw?t=423

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #624 on: April 30, 2021, 11:06:20 PM »

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #625 on: April 30, 2021, 11:48:21 PM »
my system? it's not my system, it's a simple natural principle
and it's not energy but propulsion system.

your device may just wobble, but this principle works
constant linear acceleration as long as pendulum oscillates

https://youtu.be/JGLrVgYdpRw?t=423


The video plainly said "kinetic energy" and "percussion masses". Now you're saying "pendulum oscillates". Sounds like a Plumb Bob vibratng back and forth.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #626 on: May 01, 2021, 01:00:30 AM »

The video plainly said "kinetic energy" and "percussion masses". Now you're saying "pendulum oscillates". Sounds like a Plumb Bob vibratng back and forth.

what does it matter what video title says, we are talking about propulsion

pendulum is just a reference to oscillating arm, not hanging pendulum obviously

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #627 on: May 01, 2021, 01:36:14 AM »
You can make this work with a suspension line. Just tie the top of the line to some tram track wheels. My actual experiments have shown that the device will swing forwards, pulling the tram wheels. Then, when it swings back, it only goes back to bottom dead center, without affecting the wheels. With repetition, it will pull the top wheels in a unidirectional distance. But this start/stop doesn't produce acceleration. It's referred to in the industry as "ooching", something which isn't assigned much value. You'll never get to 650 million miles per hour using something like this, no matter how 'simple' it is.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #628 on: May 01, 2021, 02:29:16 AM »
you are totally missing the point, this has nothing to do with hanging

and yes, you can theoretically get to near light speed with this simple principle

but why go to such extremes, its enough to say 3h to moon at 1g
with half way deceleration can be easily accomplished

in fact you could have a spacecraft that could constantly cruise around
the moon and earth as a hotel with minimum energy for inertial
drives provided by OU magnetic generator or solar panels

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #629 on: May 01, 2021, 02:49:56 AM »
and then there is this craziness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD5TLlNXd1Y

 

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