Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Tesla Paper

Free Energy Book

Get paid

Donations

Please Donate for the Forum.
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.(Admin)

A-Ads

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 894446
  • *Total Topics: 15730
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 8
  • *Total: 11

Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 118288 times)

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #435 on: March 27, 2021, 11:46:39 AM »
To nix85.
---------------------------------
1) But nix85, you are sensitive as if more than necessary to even the slightest form of expressing criticism and/or doubt. Please keep in mind that this principle of operation is new for us and it is normal sometimes to ask, let's say to some extent, stupid questions. :)
2) And what about this link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoW0A8hYs5A ? Let us replace the toy-boat with a permanent magnet hoverboard. No waves now. The whole installation oscillating in place?
 


Not sensitive but having little tolerance for (intentional?) junk that obscures the simple truth.

I stressed clearly many times already "in all mediums" and again you ask the same.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy


Offline George1

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 657
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #436 on: March 27, 2021, 12:01:19 PM »
To nix85.
----------------------------------
Ok. I agree. :) But what is actually your aim? To prove the concept theoretically, to prove the concept experimentally, to produce this machine on a large industrial scale? Or may be  something else? Please specify your goal, if possible.
Regards,

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #437 on: March 27, 2021, 12:14:04 PM »
You love to use emojis don't you, in every single post lol.

I have no goal but to remove the veils of confusion about this simple and powerful principle which i believe has been done.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #437 on: March 27, 2021, 12:14:04 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Jerry Volland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #438 on: March 27, 2021, 05:08:28 PM »
Ofc, every inertial device is based on this same principle.

Side walls might not be the best solution, one guy tried to replicate it and he says he failed.

I'll give it a try when i get time.

My main basic approach that always works is accelerating and decelerating the unbalanced weight AT THE AXIS, similar to shipov

BUT NEVER LET THE ARMS GO BEYOND 180° or even better beyond 90°.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoZPvL-9oI

As you can see his weights go full circle and thus device curbs itself.

My idea (not really my idea, it's an old idea and it's good) is the same just you don't let them go beyond 180° EVER.

Similar to this animation i already shared https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeZXNo4EII0

When you accelerate the arms from 0 position as in picture below, device will of course accelerate forward.

As each weight crosses the half point motor must start to decelerate them so they stop at opposite side.

Key point being that as motor decelerates the arms it is experiencing back torque and back torque has nothing to do with linear acceleration, it simply tries to spin the cart, since there are two opposing back torques spin is neutralized, like in helicopter.

Centrifugal pull remains. Pure linear acceleration.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I think most of you have a good understanding and sense for what centrifugal force is.

But still most of you have trouble seeing the simplicity of it's conversion to linear acceleration.

One way to resolve this is imagine yourself stationary in space, there is a mass passing by parallel to you at certain speed.

Say you throw a lasso and capture the mass as it passes by, what happens.

Of course, due to your own inertial mass, object's trajectory is now curved toward you,

You have deflected it from it's straight path and as a consequence it is now pulling you, accelerating you as it follows it's new, curved path.

What we got here is the same thing in more controlled environment.


Every vibrator is doing it, it's just that it pulls axis to one side, then another.

Pull must be contained on one side.

This is a good video that demonstrates the phenomena. As long as ball keeps oscillating on the right side, it pulls the cart to the right. That is all there is to it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM9tkgjVVrI


@nix85 : The Second Law of Thermodynamics:  "No collection of particals can change their overall speed or direction strictly through internal forces".


The slanted pendulum has an external force (gravity).  Where's the external force with your vibrator?



https://overunity.com/17817/is-this-a-reactionless-drive-or-a-perpetual-motion-machine/dlattach/attach/180991/image//

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #439 on: March 27, 2021, 06:09:27 PM »

@nix85 : The Second Law of Thermodynamics:  "No collection of particals can change their overall speed or direction strictly through internal forces".


The slanted pendulum has an external force (gravity).  Where's the external force with your vibrator?



https://overunity.com/17817/is-this-a-reactionless-drive-or-a-perpetual-motion-machine/dlattach/attach/180991/image//

External? There is no such thing as external.

I described the principle in detail with given example, study it, try it.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #439 on: March 27, 2021, 06:09:27 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Jerry Volland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #440 on: March 27, 2021, 07:16:38 PM »
I've already tried that in free fall.  There is no centrifugal force with nothing to push off against.  The mass weights move one direction, the rest of it moves the other way.  It vibrates.

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #441 on: March 27, 2021, 11:28:22 PM »
I have no idea what you tried but you sure did not understand the principle described which works always with zero exception.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #441 on: March 27, 2021, 11:28:22 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Jerry Volland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #442 on: March 28, 2021, 12:30:25 AM »
It sure didn't work with Cook's Inertial Propeller.

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #443 on: March 28, 2021, 01:14:48 PM »
Cook claimed it worked, again irrelevant to the principle above.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #443 on: March 28, 2021, 01:14:48 PM »
3D Solar Panels

Online lancaIV

  • elite_member
  • Hero Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4357
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #444 on: March 28, 2021, 01:39:23 PM »
"... The CIP engine is not a new energy source,but a tested and proven method of converting Coriolis and centrifugal forces into linear thrust . ...",
CIP = Cook Inertial Propulsion   http://www.rexresearch.com/cookip/cookip.htm

I studied the net-info about Cooks device in the End 90' and compared with Otto Steins "Die Zukunft der Technik"-engine !




http://www.rexresearch.com/cookip/cookip.htm#uareport

During this segment of the cycle the propellant is stopped at the expense of the forward momentum of the cart.



https://www.yumpu.com/de/document/view/20184764/otto-stein-die-zukunft-der-technik-pdf


                                       acceleration and stop -  cycle




Thrust :  weight/specific weight

Propulsion/PWM







Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #445 on: March 28, 2021, 03:05:27 PM »
I knew of CIP for years, here is the principle, never liked it, overly complicated and apparently not so efficient.

I do like tho how he solved the issue to change the direction the weight oscillates elegantly simply using additional rotation along it's axis. How is the weight captured by the arm not exactly sure, looks too complicated and probably wouldn't work well at higher rpm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Ri_HjLWR4

What Cook shows in this diagram is the same thing i am showing. It's always the same principle.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #445 on: March 28, 2021, 03:05:27 PM »
3D Solar Panels


Offline Jerry Volland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #447 on: March 28, 2021, 06:37:38 PM »
Start/stop means it jigs or it jags.  Neither of these movements can change the overall velocity, only the position.  This can't raise an orbit, only shift the phase.  But can a change in lateral position change orbital inclination?  If it can, this isn't irrelevant.

Offline nix85

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 619
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #448 on: March 28, 2021, 07:52:30 PM »
Eh the blindness. Again

ANY UNBALANCED MASS

1. OSCILLATING WITHIN 180° OR LESS

2. OR SPINNING FULL CIRCLE WITH VARYING SPEED

CONVERTS CENTRIFUGAL FORCE INTO
LINEAR ACCELERATION OF THE WHOLE SYSTEM

Offline Jerry Volland

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 213
Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #449 on: March 28, 2021, 07:53:48 PM »
External? There is no such thing as external.


Anything which is perpendicular to the plane of a rotational system is external to that system's rotation.

 

OneLink