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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 162937 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #375 on: February 19, 2021, 03:55:38 PM »
Please have a look at the two links below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNEPcYlDENM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnKjv9hnepE
This is the basic Bessler wheel's design, isn't it?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #376 on: February 22, 2021, 02:31:56 PM »
Any comments related to the basic Bessler's wheel concept?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #377 on: February 22, 2021, 05:26:38 PM »
Well people would think friction would make it not work but if it has a spike of precision torque then it can work all the time even with friction, but if there is a load then it will not work, it only self sustains it self.


People know that spins of atoms alone would correspond with the Bessler wheel it self, so i view this wheel to abide by with the spin of an atom.


If you can reverse engineer how motion works then i know it can work.


I do have faith in these sorts of ideas regarding Bessler wheel by looking and reason with the obvious but the bit where it gets baffling is understanding each process.

You have to know how the atom alone can spin all the time and then apply the process idea to the bessler wheel, when i mean that processes that self sustain the atom is going to be alien with the way we know electronics because there are signs of no energy dissipation etc with what maintains the atoms spin, so if the atom can spin then this bessler wheel can spin round and round as well which would never stop.

Also the atoms keeps on spinning where there is electric resistant and all of the losses it still spins which is the atom, so what is going on, but again baffling to understand the detailed physics.

Argument or not the obvious is how the motion of the atom does spin, reason with that and why it is unaffected.

If the atom and electron is not supported by a perpetual source then why doesn't the atom or electron get wasted as in how nothing is perpetual and gets consumed away, if does not so there is an opposite of non perpetual which is perpetual, how can the electron survive and not get wasted, these are obvious signs and can be translated into the bessler wheel etc,

I am open to reason and want to hear why it wouldn't work.

Anyways use Ockham's razor reasoning and apply it to never ending spins atoms and everything else,

Occam's razor, Ockham's razor, Ocham's razor, or law of parsimony is the problem-solving principle that "entities should not be multiplied without necessity", or more simply, the simplest explanation is usually the right one.

https://i1.wp.com/marketbusinessnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Ockhams-razor-image-with-explanation-and-example.jpg?w=925&ssl=1

So the momentum of atom spin never ending translated into bessler wheel, things behind how it spins more importantly.

Ultimately is possible to have a seemingly perpetual element powered device i say, just copy how the atom spins and all of its unknown and know processes, you may end up with a device that self sustains it selfs and the more you know maybe just maybe power a load if you can see past the sustainable process, but again the detailed physics will be baffling.

I understand if mastered with how the atom spins and you apply it, it will eventually slow down and stop very understood but there is a way it can run and fully work even with friction.

I know why it would slow down and eventually stop but to solve that sort of problem there ultimately is a way for it to work and never stop spinning any educated person would know how to do exactly that, because it has a by process in friction and will not stop.

Very easy to think why it will slow down eventually and stop but i know there is a solution for that, even as what caused it to slow down and stop.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #377 on: February 22, 2021, 05:26:38 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #378 on: February 23, 2021, 02:37:33 PM »
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Hi Dan,
Interesting analysis, dear colleague. Need some time to consider it carefully.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #379 on: February 23, 2021, 02:47:55 PM »
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Hi Dan,
Interesting analysis, dear colleague. Need some time to consider it carefully.
Regards,


Yes, your welcome, with your time to consider then consider the perpetual motion holder > https://leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsPerpetualMotionHolder.html




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #380 on: February 24, 2021, 02:27:42 PM »
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Hi Dan,
Hi dear colleague,
Thank you for your reply.
I will also consider very carefully the perpetual motion holder > https://leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsPerpetualMotionHolder.html you have sent. And I will write to you in the nearest future.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #381 on: February 24, 2021, 02:55:27 PM »
To George,


Welcome anyways this perpetual motion holder i think is just an electro magnet, when you power it up and then disconnect, it somehow maintains it's magnetic properties with no power input whatsoever.


Apparently after 2 years of no power input it still maintained it's magnetic properties according to some youtube video.


Also apparently it works different when compared to what schools teach about electric so they cannot explain some things with this perpetual holder.


It is a good starting point so that is why i recommended the perpetual holder,


Dan




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #382 on: February 24, 2021, 03:13:35 PM »
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Hi Dan,
Thanks a lot for your prompt reply.
1) Yes, you are absolutely right, that many of the schools teach has nothing to do with reality.
2) Yes, it is really interesting how this device maintains its magnetic properties with no power input whatsoever.
3) Can we find somewhere some instructive and detailed (more or less) instructions for how to build such a machine? Or to buy it from somewhere and test it by ourselves?
4) Is there some theoretical explanation of this phenomenon? May be some new physical effect stands behind this 2 years of no power input?
Looking forward to your answer.
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #383 on: February 24, 2021, 03:41:03 PM »
1 - welcome
2. Indeed people on youtube know it maintains a magnetic field with no power input after input power into it and then disconnect the power input, all of them have no reason to lie otherwise it would be debunked by now.
3.I don't know where the building plans are.
4.I cannot explain but at the least from the inventor of this device actually explains what magnetic current does though however click this for an intro > https://www.leedskalnin.com/ .


You should be on this page if you click that link above so click this as well > https://i.ibb.co/grKKnyT/Screenshot-2021-02-24-at-14-39-21.png


Anyways a double helix by it self will allow excess energy from what i know.

 some videos below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=832qz3s1M-s&t=1419s > this is the video about if the pmh will work after 2 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3STs883YHA > this video will explain what magnetic current is about
























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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #384 on: February 24, 2021, 04:58:49 PM »
To George,


Welcome anyways this perpetual motion holder i think is just an electro magnet, when you power it up and then disconnect, it somehow maintains it's magnetic properties with no power input whatsoever.

Apparently after 2 years of no power input it still maintained it's magnetic properties according to some youtube video.

Also apparently it works different when compared to what schools teach about electric so they cannot explain some things with this perpetual holder.

It is a good starting point so that is why i recommended the perpetual holder,

Dan
Hi Dan,
Yes the so called perpetual motion holder is a kind of electromagnet: you energize it with a current pulse and the core gets magnetized. However, how long it holds its magnetism depends strongly on the core material, how soft or hard iron it is made of.  You surely have heard of remanent magnetism of the different cores:  core remanence is the explanation for the perpetual motion holder.  If you suddenly pull the keeper apart, the enclosed (remanent) magnetism induces a higher singly pulse in the coil and vice versa. 

Please have a look at this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/Raselli1/videos  and watch the videos like  Transformer core tests part 1  and then part 2, you will understand this more.
Gyula

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #385 on: February 24, 2021, 05:06:45 PM »
This link is for the sceptic > https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/167356/ed-leedskalnins-perpetual-motion-holder-pmh


This is another link > https://fdocuments.in/document/edward-leedskalnin-magnetism-plus.html


seemingly it seems people on youtube have designed a collapsing field oscillator for it to power a load.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #386 on: February 24, 2021, 05:08:44 PM »
Hi Dan,
Yes the so called perpetual motion holder is a kind of electromagnet: you energize it with a current pulse and the core gets magnetized. However, how long it holds its magnetism depends strongly on the core material, how soft or hard iron it is made of.  You surely have heard of remanent magnetism of the different cores:  core remanence is the explanation for the perpetual motion holder.  If you suddenly pull the keeper apart, the enclosed (remanent) magnetism induces a higher singly pulse in the coil and vice versa. 

Please have a look at this youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/user/Raselli1/videos  and watch the videos like  Transformer core tests part 1  and then part 2, you will understand this more.
Gyula


Thank you i will study that.

This phenomena is now explained much better for George here as well as me so without your input we would not know as you know better here anyways a link > https://www.electrical-engineering.academy/posts/the-secret-of-remanence (mind you it appears what led leedskalnin the inventor of the perpetual magnet holder it is a different electric wavelength when compared to the other wave length of this link here which is secret of remanence link.)

Seemingly magnet current right, well.. according to secret of remeance link no current is there but if you collapse all of it, current comes back out though (actual current to power a led spike until the field is gone_, i don't know but there seems to be a magnetic memory current flowing though.

However what the inventor says that the waveform is a double helix meaning it is different and i know full well you can get exceeding energy from it, because the double helix allows flow of energy to come in and out, unlike traditional electric wave forms which the understanding is more mostly based off.

Understand remanence is maybe one key to understand the overunity prospects of designs like the tpu and the like.

Those youtube videos experiment will help teach me also recommend others to watch, nicely educational for people to think outside of the box.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZV4-2pFI5M

The only thing i can see is the vital bit for free energy machines to work is regauging effect for the magic to work https://www.freeenergyplanet.biz/energy-from-vacuum/lorentz-regauging-of-the-maxwellheaviside-equations.html and http://www.cheniere.org/techpapers/jap/masterprinciple.htm

Every other technique known to man won't work unless it is regauging energy.




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #387 on: February 26, 2021, 03:55:32 PM »
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Hi Dan,
Very, very interesting posts! My respect to your ability for finding of such valuable pieces of non-standard technology information! I am starting reading your last posts immediately! And I will write to you in the nearest future!
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #388 on: February 26, 2021, 04:01:00 PM »
Our simulation/animation is given below.
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Firstly, please always keep in mind and please always refer to our first post of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and to the related two links
https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
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Secondly, our simulation/animation presentation is subdivided into three consecutive separate parts for an easier understanding.
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PART 1. Please look at the link https://youtu.be/9cBGurYSryw
1) The zigzag device and the straight-line device are put together vertically one to another and are fixed motionless to a horizontal motionless plane.
2) The two blue T-shaped components start free falling together and simultaneously. Friction is negligible.
3) In the straight-line case the T-shaped blue component falls freely without any interruptions and obstacles.
4) In the zigzag case however after the blue balls enter the zigzag channel the blue T-shaped component slows down its vertical downward motion and decreases its downward vertical velocity.
5) In one word, the straight-line modification blue T-shaped component covers the distance between the highest position and the lowest position much faster than the zigzag modification blue T-shaped component.
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PART 2. Please look at the link https://youtu.be/aVOfWLDrYwA
1) How to slow down the vertical downward motion (that is, how to decrease the vertical downward velocity) of the straight-line modification blue T-shaped component?
2) The answer is simple. The straight-line segment "s" is made rough (inside the channels) as the related force of friction is chosen in such a manner so that in the lowest position the linear downward velocities of the two blue T-shaped components are one and same and equal one to another.
3) In one word, the zigzags generate mechanical resistance, (a) which is absolutely identical and equivalent to friction and (b) which does not generate heat.
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PART 3. Please look at the link https://youtu.be/pPGPktU_kpo
The last link simply repeats the experiment, described in our first post of Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:41 pm and in the related two links
https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf
https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf
The zigzags generate again mechanical resistance, (a) which is absolutely identical and equivalent to friction and (b) which does not generate heat.
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In one word, the text above and the related links above unambiguouly show that (a) either the law of conservation of linear momentum is not correct or (b) the law of conservation of mechanical energy is not correct or (c) both the law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct simultaneously.
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Looking forward to your answer.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #389 on: February 26, 2021, 09:39:20 PM »
Also take a look at the rodin coil > https://endalldisease.com/rodin-coil-complete-guide/

 

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