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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 95822 times)

Offline George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #315 on: January 18, 2021, 02:32:59 PM »
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Thank you for your post.
Seems to be an interesting conception. Would you give us some time to consider it carefully? (We cannot open the second link.)

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #316 on: January 18, 2021, 02:34:32 PM »
Our simulation/animation is under costruction.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #317 on: January 18, 2021, 03:11:18 PM »
Strange you can't open the second link, works fine for me.

https://youtu.be/VZqwvGhoHKU?t=219

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #317 on: January 18, 2021, 03:11:18 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #318 on: January 19, 2021, 02:28:25 PM »
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It's OK now. Please give us some time to consider the concept carefully and thoroughly.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #319 on: January 19, 2021, 02:29:43 PM »
Our zigzag simulation/animation is under costruction.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #319 on: January 19, 2021, 02:29:43 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #320 on: January 20, 2021, 02:52:58 PM »
This guy almost gets it but he is under delusion that he needs to counterrotate the base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bReKEKpoyjo

Shipov device, notice it accelerates until pendulums cross the 180°.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WoZPvL-9oI

Also this Polish guy, this is real, altho he never shown the video of it. Whether intentionally or not this is a rip off of this patent

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040159090

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIri1tTuaqU

Just one problematic thing he says in the video that centrifugal force pushes the liquid into another wheel through sieve, yea on the right side, but also on the left in the wrong direction. I guess this is where electromagnet and ferrofluid comes to play.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #321 on: January 20, 2021, 03:16:22 PM »
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Hi there,
Thank you for your post.
Well, it seems to be workable at first sight. At the same time however this (no doubt!) original concept as if needs some more careful analysis. Please give us some more time to think over it and make some additional calculations. (The theoretical construction of this device is not very simple, isn't it?)   

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #321 on: January 20, 2021, 03:16:22 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #322 on: January 20, 2021, 03:19:30 PM »
Our zigzag simulation/animation is under costruction. It is not very easy to prepare it correctly.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #323 on: January 20, 2021, 03:20:39 PM »
Proof of concept device from last page is simple to build.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #323 on: January 20, 2021, 03:20:39 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #324 on: January 20, 2021, 03:25:47 PM »
Notice at 1:09 machine is like 10cm in the air. Why do you think it selfdestructs. Brick first lifts it in the air and then slams it against cement at more than 2g.

https://youtu.be/vROdVsU_K80?t=65


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #325 on: January 20, 2021, 03:42:29 PM »
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1) About your first post. Ok, we will follow your instructions to consider carefully the last page. Please give us some time to consider it carefully.
2) About your second post. The same appeal --  please give us some time to consider it carefully.
3) Anyway my respect to your enthusiasm! :) Your posts are really very interesting! You obviously belong to our inventors' brotherhood! Would you join our team? (Not pressing, only suggesting. :))
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #325 on: January 20, 2021, 03:42:29 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #326 on: January 20, 2021, 03:47:43 PM »
Consider also this idea of mine, i copy paste from original thread. Just to add, toroid is not the best solution, halftoroid is. With toroid there is too much water in the wider part, wider part must be as short as possible to reduce the weight.

https://overunity.com/18599/water-inertial-drive/

i shared this on other thread but i think it deserves it's own.

principle is simple. imagine a circular pipe, bottom half 4 times the diameter of the upper, there is a pump inside the system,

in short, centrifugal force will be 4 x greater in upper part despite the fact that volume of water is 4 times less.

this is due to venturi effect (continuity principle), water in narrower part speeds up proportionally to how much narrower pipe is (https://youtu.be/UJ3-Zm1wbIQ?t=97 ) and centrifugal force is proportional to velocity squared.

let's say 5 liters is enclosed in the tube, since upper half is 1/4 diameter, there are 4 liters in bottom half and 1 liter in upper half.

let's say pump is pushing bottom part water at 1m/s, this means water in upper part moves at 4m/s.

let's say radius of the circle is 0.5m

let's calculate the centrifugal force http://www.calctool.org/CALC/phys/newtonian/centrifugal

for 4 liters at 1m/s force is 8N or 0.8kg.

for 1 liter at 4m/s force is 32N or 3.2kg.

or constant 2.4kg, but since only at the center force is pure y component it is 1/2 or 1.2kg average up


and

for 4 liters at 2.5m/s force is 50N or 5kg.

for 1 liter at 10m/s force is 200N or 20kg.

or constant 1/2 x 15kg = 7.5kg up

etc

of course increase of velocity means more friction and very low friction tube must be used, like electropolished stainless steel, but principle is clear and should be tested.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #327 on: January 20, 2021, 03:49:36 PM »
Tnx, George. I am already a part of the team here, at disposal to help in any way i can.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #328 on: January 20, 2021, 03:55:49 PM »
Also regarding this water based inertial system, there was an article on KeelyNet.com i can no longer find on waybackmachine.

It was a report from a guy somewhere in US, he was driving his car in mountainous area, suddenly a saucer landed on the road in front of him.

Occupants were regular Americans, they asked him for water. He agreed to give if he can inspect the ineterior.

Inside, he saw a pipe going all around the outer wall of the saucer and periodically going up narrowing and then going back down widening again.

This is the same thing as my idea. The thing is water speeds up in narrow parts and slows down in wider.

On the way down momentum of water converts into static pressure, that is why there is no reaction downward, only up pull due to fast water in narrow pipe.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #329 on: January 20, 2021, 04:32:52 PM »
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Thank you, nix85! Thank you, brother-inventor! Thank you for your interesting posts! You are already a member of our team! I will write to you in the nearest future! Meanwhile if you find some interesting additional information, then please share it with us!
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