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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 20190 times)

Offline Acca

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #135 on: June 23, 2019, 06:52:14 PM »
You should at least show a photo of this 10 million dollar machine ...
As to why you are posting this here as this overunity forum is to reverse engineer your type of machine ?
 ...and the principle of operation.. as we don't want anything that is just another radioactive Harold Coleman power generator..


Acca...


Ps I want only 5 million for my method of accelerating time .."machine"..I have to sell it as I am old..




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #136 on: June 23, 2019, 07:38:58 PM »
Soo... I forgot to ask you if this technology is stolen Russian reaction-less device by Vladimir Leonov as shown in the ISS clip..  I posted the link on the previous page as Leonov just uploaded the clip two days ago on his youtube channel..  I think that this is soo..  You have to really by honest here as Russians already have the unit in gravity-less ISS and doing engineering application based experiments for the uni-directional drive..


So unless you can prove your claim with photos the Russians have patents already and disclosed this method..


However Americans are still debating if it is even possible to have uni-directional thrust with no counter reaction..


Sooo ...too bad as this is 100 times more efficient and like Robert Cook described this in his book "The death or rocketry" in the 1980's  and patent..The cat is now out of the brown paper bag.. and you are now on the sidelines..


Acca.. 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #137 on: June 29, 2019, 10:21:37 AM »
Hi Acca,
Hi Low-Q/Vidar,
Thank you for your replies.
The links you have sent to us have nothing to do with our technologies and conceptions. But these links are very interesting and we need some time to consider them carefully.
George 

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #137 on: June 29, 2019, 10:21:37 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #138 on: July 02, 2019, 09:07:07 AM »
To Acca and Low-Q/Vidar.
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Hi guys,
1) We considered carefully the last links that have been sent. As mentioned in our last post our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with these links, i.e., our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with antigravity and quantum energetics. We describe only a simple mechanical system consisting of four simpe mechanical components. As for the clip, describing the Russian reactionless puller, we suspect that this is some kind of pneumatic system which uses for support the air inside the cabin and actually this is not a reactionless puller.
2) And what is your opinion about our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM? Zigzags imitate resistance, identical to friction, but without generating heat, don't they?
Looking forward to your answer.
George     

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2019, 10:24:59 AM »
To Acca and Low-Q/Vidar.
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Hi guys,
1) We considered carefully the last links that have been sent. As mentioned in our last post our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with these links, i.e., our technologies and conceptions have nothing to do with antigravity and quantum energetics. We describe only a simple mechanical system consisting of four simpe mechanical components. As for the clip, describing the Russian reactionless puller, we suspect that this is some kind of pneumatic system which uses for support the air inside the cabin and actually this is not a reactionless puller.
2) And what is your opinion about our two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM? Zigzags imitate resistance, identical to friction, but without generating heat, don't they?
Looking forward to your answer.
George     
The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase.
The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat.


So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #139 on: July 02, 2019, 10:24:59 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #140 on: July 03, 2019, 02:30:53 PM »
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Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase.
The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2019, 02:39:05 PM »
To Low-Q/Vidar
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Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase. The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2019, 02:39:05 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2019, 02:40:48 PM »
I don't know why my last post has been sent two times in a row. I am not responsible for this.

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2019, 02:48:53 PM »
To Low-Q/Vidar
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Hi Vidar,
You greatly disappoint me, my friend!
You have written: "The only force that somewhat imitate friction is a constant acceleration of mass, but then you gain kinetic energy as the velocity increase. The "friction" you talk about does not involve any increase of kinetic energy due to mass acceleration, so therefor the friction must cause heat. So, to answer your last question, the zigzags generate heat if you cannot recover 100% of the "friction" to do useful work." There is no sense in this composition of words. This is for example something like the following sentence: " The Moon is black and it walks around the green tree." Grammatically correct, but absurd.
George
Sorry for disapointing you. I hope you can provide an understandable explanation to why the zig-zag does not loose energy to heat, and why friction, per definition, doesn't create heat.
My purpose was not to disappoint you, but putting down my thoughts on the subject.
Mechanical systems follows mechanical physics. There is no workaround to avoid a physical device to violate its physical nature.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #143 on: July 03, 2019, 02:48:53 PM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2019, 03:05:00 PM »
Vidar,
1) But you haven't read at all the two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY!
2) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Any objections against this last claim?
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #145 on: July 04, 2019, 12:30:20 AM »
Vidar,
1) But you haven't read at all the two posts of July 21, 2018, 02:11:37 PM and May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. PLEASE READ THEM CAREFULLY!
2) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." Any objections against this last claim?
George
What's written is one thing. How your device work in real life is another thing.
I strongly believe it is smart to do the practice first, then figure out how it works. Anyone can write down ones ideas, claims, etc, but that does not prove anything.


For 10 million dollars, you really need to prove your claims. The one and only way to do that, is to build the thing, and exmine how it works - not only by you, but by independent people without influence of the inventor. Avoiding anything that would possibly bias the examiners work and results.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #145 on: July 04, 2019, 12:30:20 AM »
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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #146 on: July 04, 2019, 10:28:14 AM »
Hi guys,
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1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
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2) Because the lack of objections inevitably leads to a generation of a violation/exception of the rule/law of conservation of linear momentum. (I will remind again that any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, tragic and disturbing in this fact.)
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3) Previous item 2 inevitably leads on its behalf to a possibility of designing and manufacturing of a reactionless drive.
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How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
George
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P.S. To Vidar. Firstly, (1) our reactionless drive conception and (2) our revolutionary electric technology are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. Secondly, as far as I can see you have no objections against the claim of item 1. Thirdly, if you have 10 million dollars, then we could start negotiating about our electric technology. And fourthly, the reactionless drive motor could be either (a) some kind of electric technology or (b) an internal combustion engine or (c) a steam engine or (d) a steam turbine combined with some nuclear device for example, etc. (You can even integrate the reactionless drive with some bycicle-like device and use your muscle power.) And at last, you, Sven and I are viking descendants and we have to support each other and not to confront.         




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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #147 on: July 05, 2019, 11:21:58 PM »
.......... And at last, you, Sven and I are viking descendants and we have to support each other and not to confront.         
Supporting each other is not the same as agreeing to everything. Confrontations are something else I think - like something that happend when the vikings boarded the northern shore of Scotland and took with them the most beautiful nuns back to Norway...


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #148 on: July 06, 2019, 11:56:28 AM »
Hi Vidar,
A) Yes, you are right about the words "support'" and "confront" -- I did not use them in the most suitable way.
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B) But let us get back to the essence of this discussion. I am sending again the text of one of our last posts.
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1) Here is an abstract from our post from May 16, 2019, 09:35:12 AM. "It is evident that we can always choose a suitable combination of (a) magnitude of force of friction, (b) length of segments s and (c) number and shape of zigzags, for which Fc = F'c, Fc > 0, F'c > 0, d = d', d > 0 and d' > 0." ANY OBJECTIONS AGAINST THIS LAST CLAIM?
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2) Because the lack of objections inevitably leads to a generation of a violation/exception of the rule/law of conservation of linear momentum. (I will remind again that any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing special, tragic and disturbing in this fact.)
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3) Previous item 2 inevitably leads on its behalf to a possibility of designing and manufacturing of a reactionless drive.
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How to explain the things in a simpler and easier manner?
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Do you agree with items 1, 2 and 3?
Looking forward to your answer.
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #149 on: July 14, 2019, 02:29:07 PM »
Some idiots try to imitate us coppying the name of our topic. Please don't pay attention to their writings.
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