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Author Topic: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?  (Read 211480 times)

George1

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IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?

This seems to me a great technology revolution! As if these guys are extremely gifted engineers! Please look at the two links below:

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf

https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf

The first link contains the text, and the second link contains the related Figs.1-6. The two links form one united whole.

Besides there is an YouTube clip which describes the same technology. The video quality of the clip is not very good however.

The clip can be found at this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pLeawOh3Ho.

Alternatively, you can run a search in Google for the phrase "HOW BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR" (with capital letters).

You can contact the inventors at randdgroup34@gmail.com.

And most important, in order to understand the text and the related Figs.1-6, you have to be an expert in the field of theoretical and applied mechanics

My friends and I are extremely curious about the opinions of the colleagues, who are members of the world community, related to reactionless propulsion systems, alternative sources of energy and other non-standard technology problems.

What do you think about the experiment described in the links above? As if everything seems to be perfect? As if this is really a reactionless propulsion system and/or a perpetual motion machine?

Besides these guys suggest another technology revolution. Their  second technology breakthrough increases drastically the distance travelled by a standard electric car on a single charge. And what do you think about this electric technology? 

Eagerly looking forward to your answer.

Best regards

George Sen

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2018, 11:42:09 AM »
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2018, 07:55:40 AM »
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?


It's more a case of "wait, so I have to read a bunch of low contrast handwriting and math that might go over my head, and the only alternative is some meaningless cryptic images that by themselves explain nothing"...




Also, if you break the conservation of momentum, then you break the conservation of energy either way.


Also, finally, most attempts to violate mathematical laws with math fall flat, they are mistakes, errors.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2018, 11:02:46 PM »
have you actually tried the experiment?
Generally speaking, mv of the reaction is a vector, and if the direction is changed on the opposite, i.e. not against the original force, but with it, the reaction can be made to
double the original force.

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 03:15:29 PM »
Please look at the two PDF links.
1) Everything is explained clear enough and the text and the drawings are also clear enough.
2) No, there are no experiments at all. It's only a theoretical research. If somebody in this forum has time and good will, then he/she could carry out the experiment. You can also consider everything as a part of the entertaiment industry. Simply have fun and be happy! 

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 11:27:51 AM »
Dear colleagues,
Let me tell you about two more things.
1) Precise mathematical calculations (including intergrals) unambiguously show the correctness of the conception described in the two PDF links  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf and  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf. Baron Munchausen can lift himself into the air by pulling himself up by his own hair for sure! The calculations however take too much space (20 pages) and that's why they are not given here. But anybody, who is interested in, can do the math.
2) There are special computer programs (since 1990s) which entirely and fully imitate real mechanical (as well as electrical, chemical and other) processes. There are numerous clips in YouTube which totally and fully imitate the real mechanical processes which occur in the internal combustion engines (ICE) for example. The clips are animations which show clearly vectors (as time varying directions and magnitudes) of linear and angular velocities and of forces and torques related (a) to the rotating crankshaft, (b) to the reciprocally moving pistons and (c) to the cylinders. AND PLEASE NOTE -- there is an option which allows imitating of the real mechanical processes in ICE with and without friction, that is, friction can vary from zero to any value(magnitude) bigger than zero.
So if there are enthusiasts (enthusiasm is one of the basic requirements of any great deed) in this forum who are well educated in computer sciences, then they could adapt the above mentioned programs to the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive conception and show all of us in this forum the related adaptations.
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And let me repeat again -- nobody forces you into accepting of the Baron Munchausen's conception for a reactionless drive. Please consider the two PDF links as a part of the entertainment industry. Simply have fun and be happy!
Best regards,
George   

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2018, 11:22:42 AM »
And two more arguments related to Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive which are not related to higher mathematics.
1) Firstly, please look again at Figs. 1,2,2A and 3 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link  https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that the inside walls of the straight-line black pipes are quite rough and covered with abrasive paper. The two blue balls slide inside the straight-line black pipes s-segments. Let us assume that the resisting force of friction is 1N. (The weight of an average apple is around 1N.)
Secondly, please look again at Figs. 4,5,5A and 6 in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/figs01-08.pdf and at the related text in link https://mypicxbg.files.wordpress.com/2018/04/pages_01-12.pdf. Please assume that friction inside the zig-zag channels is 100000 times smaller than 1N (which is perfectly possible by using modern technologies), that is, the resisting force of friction is now 0.00001N. Therefore friction can be assumed negligible -- it is much smaller than the weight of a mosquito! And the related experimental error is 0.001%, that is, the experimental error can be also neglected as the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1% at most.
How to explain the Baron Munchausen's reactionless drive in a simpler and more understandable way?
2) Now we are preparing a presentation (text and drawings) of another approach which allows replacing of friction (Figs. 1,2,2A and 3) with another technology unit. The blue ball slides with negligible friction inside the straight-line black pipe and at a certain moment pushes sideways an oblique piston which on its behalf slides in a straight-line channel. This channel (a) is perpendicular to the black straight-line pipe and (b) is firmly attached to the black straight-line pipe. There is a spring of suitable stiffness inside this additional channel. The blue ball slides inside the black straight-line pipe and pushes the oblique piston, which on its behalf presses the spring. After some period of time the piston is totally pushed out of the black straight-line pipe and is locked in its ultimate position; the spring is maximally pressed and the related velocities are the same as in Fig. 3. If friction is assumed negligible, then (a) no heat is generated and (b) the related energy is accumulated in the spring as a potential energy. (The spring is assumed to be ideal and I will not explain now what is an ideal spring and how it correlates with a real spring.)
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It seems to me that many members of this forum (excluding a few clumsy and ignorant agents of the BIG OIL) as if fear the truth.
Nevertheless simply have fun!
Best regards,
George

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2018, 03:26:03 PM »
hard to read.TLDRwhat is the point.

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2018, 10:36:44 AM »
To fritznien.
1) The experimental error caused by friction in a real experiment can be reduced to 0.001% (modern technologies allow this) while the acceptable margin of experimental error is 1-2% at most and 5% as a standard.   
2) Friction can be replaced by oblique pistons which are pushed aside by the moving blue balls. Pistons press high-quality springs that accumulate potential energy and do not practically generate heat.
Note. Yet please read the text which you evaluate as TLRD. 
 

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2018, 11:25:20 AM »
Don't fear the truth! And the truth is that BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE! The law of conservation of linear momentum and the law of conservation of mechanical energy are not correct in some cases! Any rule/law has its exceptions and there is nothing disturbing and tragic in this fact. Be simply braver and have fun!

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2018, 11:30:14 AM »
Any member of this forum who is a top expert in computer simulation of mechanical systems? As they do it in NASA and in Formula 1?

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2018, 01:15:44 PM »
...BARON MUNCHAUSEN CAN LIFT HIMSELF INTO THE AIR BY PULLING HIMSELF UP BY HIS OWN HAIR FOR SURE!
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Does he use the same method as Peter Pan?

Low-Q

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2018, 02:17:31 PM »
I do not see any comments. No one here is interested in reactionless drive?
The point here is how one can pull his own hair and lift himself into the air. The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.


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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2018, 06:01:15 PM »
...The hand that pulls, will pull equally in the opposite direction of the weight he want to lift. Such videos, or statements are untrue because it's a good trick, with nothing more to it.
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I share your opinion, Vidar.
The configuration reduces to a closed mechanical system and no new physics is assumed. A Lagrangian can therefore describe the system, which excludes any possibility of non-conservation of the momentum.
I consider this thread to be a good joke, even if it is not the April fool's day.

George1

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Re: IS THIS A REACTIONLESS DRIVE OR A PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2018, 12:20:33 PM »
To F6FLT and to Low-Q.
Are you really ignorant or you only imitate ignorance because of the money you receive from the BIG OIL and/or from similar organizations? Most likely the second one is true.