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Title: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on May 26, 2018, 07:48:55 PM
My posts will not be frequent. Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 26, 2018, 07:57:15 PM


 
1. this schematic of the pump is not mine  and it  applies to electrical equivalent  of water  pump but this is  absolutely  the concept of  electrostatic pump. ( search Free Energy Well Pump to find it  - it is on web side not on video )
2.  kapanadze coil capacitor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU)
3. kapanadze coil capacitor  https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=597 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=597)
 Please note that frequency of spark gap is very low ~ 20Hz
4. Kapanadze Tent presentation - bank of  capacitors serving as part of coil capacitor  circuitry If you interested than please find model number and internal structure of it
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 26, 2018, 08:01:58 PM
This is copy of  translation done by:AlienGrey from Russian into English
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19885 on: Today at 04:26:04 PM »
 Arunas may the ask You for help with the Translation as with the a well:

the Conversation of by Wesley with the Cheshire Cat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo&t=613s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo&t=613s)
Please note Note That larger part of such conversation is not related to the this are subject
and there are few separate conversations.
find the right one.
 
Wesley says:
Easy answer: the
density of the electron beam in the conductor: electrons of different types of atoms have different degrees of freedom to move.
With some types of materials, such as metals, the outermost electrons in atoms are so loosely related,
that they randomly move in the space between atoms the effect of temperature changes in the room so that there is no need for an electric current in the conductor.
Since these practically unconnected electrons are free to leave their respective atoms and float
around in the space between neighboring atoms, they are often called free electrons.
In other types of materials, such as glass, the electrons of atoms have very little freedom of movement.
- the insulating material (foil) acts as a medium for increasing the electron density)
If we want the electrons to flow in a certain direction in a certain place,
we must provide the correct way for them to move, just like a plumber must
install a pipeline so that water flows where he or she wants it to flow.
electrons can move freely in the conductor.
They have a drift speed of 1 cm / s, but when we see a conductor (for example, an antenna), the electron
does not actually move along the entire length of the conductor, it just vibrates around its middle position, and its energy comes forward.
============================================ The
actual drift velocity is highly dependent from the geometry of the conductor, the magnitude of the current flowing
and the density of the mobile charge carriers (the drift velocity is proportional to the current and inversely proportional to
the cross-sectional area and the mobile carrier density). 50 Hz, in Russia,
electrons do not drift very far.
A large number of electrons collectively shift their positions .... a little, but the current but can be very high
============================== =================
Signals:
propagate along the wires at very high speeds.
If the lead is excellent, the signal propagation speed depends on the insulating material around the wire.
This is due to the fact that the energy transfer is actually in the electric and magnetic fields.
The Poynting vector is E transverse B and is proportional to the energy flux per unit area per unit time,
and since the electric field vanishes inside the conductor, no energy flows inside the conductor (!),
Only from the outside, in close proximity.
The propagation velocity of the signals then depends on the dielectric properties of the insulation, and usually
about 70% of the speed of light.
The electrons only flow in the conductor to satisfy the conditions of the electric and magnetic fields
obeying the Maxwell equations on the conductor surface.
================================================== =========
About alternating current - the average AC value of the current in the circuit must be zero 
(if there is no DC offset), the current flows back and forth continuously, 
 ============= ===========================
The opposition to the current flow through the AC Condenser is called the Capacitive Reactance 
which itself is inversely proportional to the 'supply' frequency of the supply
This factor is directly responsible for storing the energy and density of electrons in the conductor.
so the larger the diameter of the conductor, the higher its ability to temporarily store energy
. So this is not really a diameter that is important, but the surface size of that conductor.
It can be porous or deformed.
================================================== ===== The
collection of the time charge can be made at any frequency (for example, the frequencies of the arrester spectrum,),
but the energy is fed further on at the resonant frequency of the equivalent of the LC circuit of this coil.
The best signals for this are narrow but short rectangular HV pulses. One of the best known methods
consists of two generators. ABOUT
One generator produces a sinusoidal signal at a frequency of 5-20 kHz, and the second oscillator modulates the sinusoid modulation
with a narrow high level of the deviative position-
or better say the positions on this sinusoidal signal (the best position is 5 degrees
after the maximum position of the positive sine wave)
Kapanadze's reel in the aquarium # 1 was made of a wide copper foil to increase its surface.
If you want to have a shorter coil length,
However, two copper foils, insulated with foil, greatly enhance the capacitive resistance of these two or
three or any number of them - the copper foil must be connected very accurately.
If you connect the last two ends of this foil together, you removed / removed the reactive impedance components to zero.
You do not want this to happen. (Bifilar form of communication).
Therefore, all the front ends must be connected together and have a foil in between.
But only one end should be used from the opposite end
========================================= ======
to better understand this: - Take 10 thin copper strips of copper foil 5 cm wide - take 10 thin strips of foil 5 cm wide
If you use high voltage for pulses than the insulating film should be wider 5cm + 1cm ~ / = 6cm
- stack them one on top of the other.
-You can roll them up like a capacitor
- Front end (all insulated between copper strips) are soldered together.
- the other part (10 strips of copper foil), only one end of the length of use of the sandwich can be, for example, 10 m
but when it is rolled into Cylinders, it occupies little space
resonance frequency of such a condenser coil depends on its capacitance and inductive reactance.

Quick the Translation:
to the get a better Understanding of the this - take 10 thin copper foil strips 5 cm wide
- take 10 thin strips of foil 5 cm wide
the If you use high voltage for Pulses than the insulating film Should the BE Wider 5cm + 1cm ~ / 6cm
- stack them one on top of the other.
-You can roll them up as a condenser
- the front end (all insulated between copper strips) is soldered together but only from one side. That increases  surface of such structure adding to it capacitive reactance.
On the other end  of (10 strips of copper foil), you  only use one end  out of 10.
ther rest 9 ends must be not connected.
to better use the length of such a sandwich  you can:
roll in  all  of them into a  form of cylindrical structure.
Such structure   occupies  small space.
The frequency of resonance of such a coil capacitor depends on its capacitive and inductive reactances.
Spark gap  bandwidth is from single Hz to 1GHz   with one  but significant  High amplitude region.
Collecting energy by such coil capacitor  is taking advantage  of all of that  spark gap spectrum components. 
But  output of coil capacitor (  the far end  of  just  one  of  the 10 single copper strips)  does it  at resonance frequency of such coil capacitor.
 IF you have noticed  Tariel in TENT SHOW used humongous coils  ( not  Grenade) but strange it was to see big bank of AC capacitors next to it) !!!!
I assume but I'm not sure that these capacitors have been slightly modified to to form  described by me here.   
If not  than please take model number  from  TENT PRESENTATION  of such capacitors and you maybe able to find drawings of its internal structure
At the right frequency of stimulating impulses, you will be able to get the trigger of coil # 11 (or otherwise coil that is connected to the ground with diode)       
look below for instructions.
Note:
by that we may also understand that use of capacitors.

How to make electrostatic pump:

          You can also add another copper foil number 11 along with the other 10 (copper foil). 
This copper foil is not connected at all to another.
Now connect this copper foil to the ground wire using a diode between the ground and the foil.
Polarization of the diode must be in its conducting direction from the ground to the copper foil.
You have now made an electrostatic pump.
И это - 90 % успеха вашего СE.  (закрутите винтoм орехи  царя)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo&t=613s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo&t=613s)

Quick Translation :
You can also add another copper foil number 11 along with the other 10 copper foils.
This copper foil is not connected at all to  set of others 10 foils.
but this strip is winded along with  other 10  copper foil strips insulated in between .
Again please understand that  even if these 10 strips are connected  together from one side ,their surface   is 10 times bigger than  single copper strip.
that  work at significantly lower frequencies .
this concept is taken from Tariel Kapanadze  aquarium #1 ( the red coil cpacitor with shiny something in the middle).
You can see from the picture that he soldered all of copper  strips in the middle
and than winded all together.
Than only one from strips was used from outside
I hope you can understand it .
And now connect this copper foil #11 with the ground wire using a diode in between
( using a diode between the ground and the foil #11.)
Polarization of the diode must be in its conducting direction from the ground to the copper foil.
You have now made an electrostatic pump.
And this is 90% success of your FE. ((tighten the screw around the Russian  king's nuts))


It is to much to translate. Try to use  translator  I  hope it will come somehow    logical.
This is due to me being allowed now to go that far  with sharing of information that is in my possession.

-Please  understand that number of strips is not critical.
- It is  just one of solutions of Tariel.
- electrostatic pump is my  own  way to explain  processes
Tariel was able to intuitively   by errors and trials to understand how it works.
Tariel is not  so advanced to be able to  explain why it is  happening. He only knows how  to make it.
Later modifications especially by SR193 have been using slightly  different approach.

Grenade coil  serves partially  similar function using canceling  of reactances in 3D geometrical space of  adjacent coils
It is not only one way to get results .
That is why  I concentrated myself on understanding phenomena .
Honestly ....

Wesley


PS;
1. this schematic of the pump is not mine  and it  applies to electrical equivalent  of water  pump but this is  absolutely  the concept of  electrostatic pump. ( search Free Energy Well Pump to find it  - it is on web side not on video )
2.  kapanadze coil capacitor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU)
3. kapanadze coil capacitor  https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=597 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=597)
 Please note that frequency of spark gap is very low ~ 20Hz
4. Kapanadze Tent presentation - bank of  capacitors serving as part of coil capacitor  circuitry  Please find model number and internal structure of it
 I did my part you do yours
 
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on May 27, 2018, 03:33:03 AM
Hi :)
I know this is a little out of your wheelhouse - so to speak... but was wondering what you thought of this idea...
(PDF attached of patent, next message has links to patents on web)
https://overunity.com/17653/pierres-170w-in-1600w-out-looped-very-impressive-build-continued-moderated/msg521687/#msg521687


Unfortunately the original videos are no longer available.... The difference between patent and Pierre's device is DZ Generator uses manual switching instead of external phases...



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on May 27, 2018, 10:30:09 AM
Hi Wesley,
Its good to see that you have started your own thread.
You wrote: -
"But interesting point I could make here:
not always all of the factors are immediately visible.
My friend is science Dr. Roy likes to say.
"Only the magician knows his tricks."
that does not mean that automatically all tricks are not scientifically valid."

A wise guy your Dr. Roy!
I hope you won't take this the wrong way but you do come across as being strongly biassed towards the opinion that Kapanadze's devices are genuine self-runners. I find this rather strange that given you clearly have good technical training and education and yet, although you have seen some of Kapanadze's first hand, you have never had the opportunity to conduct a proper physical instrument based technical analysis on any of them.

I'll leave you with these shots from Kapanadze's / Akula's videos that I feel uneasy with: -
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on May 27, 2018, 09:06:22 PM
Some notes from Zeitmachine in a other Kap[anadze related thread.



A COLLECTION OF GUNTIS/COSMOLV STATEMENTS

1) Tariel said, the device is very simple;

2) 220V goes in and 220V goes out; 50Hz;

3) everything is in the coil setup - actually in windings; it is a bifilar coil but in non-standard way, closed looped by itself;

4) all magic happens between coils; trigger coil is the output power coil; try to put your mind back to those years; no semiconductors, no RadioShack - nothing, just wires and transformers;

5) most important thing is to generate sharp pulses;

6) device is not transformer but choke where high voltage - no more than 2000 volts - produces light ionization; what you need is little high voltage to give birth to new electrons and lots of electrons forming around the wires, the second thing is to activate these electrons;

7) a static field or ionization is also called a dead magnetic field, but we can convert this field to perform work;

8) high voltage in specific frequency creates a dead magnetic field; if we synchronize this high voltage with the low voltage half-wave, then we can turn the core in an electric generator and it works like a combustion engine;

9) high voltage is injector and low voltage is piston, magnetic field is combustion chamber;

10) when impulses are generated, a magnetic field is created in a bifilar coil, so in total you have one source, but in fact you have resonant magnetic generator with two fields;

11) it is not enough to loop electricity through coils, you need to interact with medium (make a bridge); but remember always and always this is manipulation with time;

12) ions are attracted by ionization, this high voltage field is magnetized with vibrations and we get a very powerful magnetic field and this field is the outside power; energy is received on coil through magnetic field, not electrical or electrostatic;

13) this device is not a toy, it has a great ability to change our lives and it needs to be done in a smart way; we need to think globally; if anybody release schematics government takes fast control of it, it will be turned as illegal immediately; actually the effect in this device is very specific magnetic field, the technology by itself is like atomic reaction, but without pollution of radiation; BUT ... this magnetic field, if you make it stronger, it can kill you in seconds or, if you make it stronger, it can cause an effect like an atomic bomb; you cannot change the world or change the rules of our governments. With this device YES you can! Free Energy is only one side of it, other side is the most powerful weapon in human history after Nuclear Power! By the way, nuclear power sits far back compared to this (Free Energy) principle; it generates its own magnetic field which is not dependent of earths fields, without earth grounding the device produces too much power, but this is different story which is not related to Free Energy, there are more things, not only Free Energy ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on May 27, 2018, 09:31:02 PM
This seems to me related?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 28, 2018, 09:29:10 AM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg521745/#msg521745 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg521745/#msg521745)
As of Today at  5 PM  Eastern Time I have made  addition to   material posted  previously.
Please visit link form above to see  changes.
there it is.
Coil Cpacitor  however  there is no need to build one just fallow instructions on picture below
Wesley
On this Kapanadze device presentation in Turkey is ordinary "cosinus" capacitors. This capacitors used in industrial electric equpment on 50 Hz. These capacitors allow a long-time alternating current through themselves to several tens of amperes without overheating. Not very much  amperes trought one, for example a capacitor of 20 kVar at 400 volts allows a current:Icap = 20 000 Var/400V* sqrt(3) = 29 A. These capacitors can be used in a resonant circuit at a low frequency, 10 to 500 Hz, with connecting many capacitors in parallel. These capacitors are not suitable for the Tesla coil due to overheating on the HF.
I think that this circuit with capacitors is needed by Kapanadze as a converter-"filter" of dirty nonsinusoidal current from his hidden X-Source into a pure sine current of 50 Hz, suitable for use in a conventional electrical network.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2017china-wholesale-market-three-phase-kvar_60684828500.html (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2017china-wholesale-market-three-phase-kvar_60684828500.html)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on May 28, 2018, 11:44:20 AM
Ok, Thanks Wesley, I think I do understand now, so just to be sure... before rolling the coil capacitor it should look like this: (side/ profile view)

and what frequency is recommended for 10m long, 5cm wide strips? and what type of impulses?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on May 28, 2018, 11:55:17 AM
Re a coil capacitor....


This is a massive coil, wound just double layer (one inside, one outside).  Inside is a large neodymium magnet, when it rotates, it generates a current flow in the coils.  The coil ends independantly can be used as a + potential and a - potential, and thereby have a charge stored in the coil...  this charge can then be used to kick the magnet to continue to rotate.  There is very little drag effect because of lens when the coils are open...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xLFl5RhNgU


(I dunno it's been a work in progress for a while... this is somwhere in the middle... but towards the video leadin)
http://open-source-energy.org/?topic=3128.msg49555#msg49555
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on May 30, 2018, 08:25:55 PM
Apecore this was the last Kapagen built, I almost electrocuted myself, way too dangerous to use 3200 volts in the ground. Also what was not seen was the Fe Mg Zr core inside that puts out beta electrons.  That I self censored this device, I am really sorry for that... Need to study "spinwaves" as this Kapanadze devices type work on this method as I have posted this over many years and nobody seems to grasp that maybe Wesley only.. Iron isotope (s) will go nuke  with ultrasonic waves and that sound is very bad as in the high pitch ,  Fe TV core will do that in each half that is why the paper is needed in that split..  Be very careful of that sound...


Acca..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 30, 2018, 09:53:00 PM
Apcore yes T H Moray talkes about it. I will find it for you !

http://cheniere.org/books/excalibur/moray.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/moray2/morayrer.htm

The Lilly Wave And Psychotronic Warfare.

http://thebridgelifeinthemix.info/technology/the-lilly-wave-and-psychotronic-warfare/#sthash.Vm2e0oDQ.dpbs
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 31, 2018, 04:19:18 PM
NMR safety issues aside

If what AG is posting is true... "Psychotronic Warfare".[which would not surprise me]



Tinfoil hardhats should be standard issue during times of civil unrest or "other"  :o
What you don't have one all ready  ;D  do you have an i phone ?

there is always the god frequency I wonder if that would work any better (the music tone before the
nazi's changed it ? don't know what i'm on about) that's a pity

Well the Schumann frequency is 8 but the universe is a 9 multiply 8 x 9 = ?
Talk to Stella about his research into the subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEWOYKgI4o

AG 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 01, 2018, 04:49:53 PM
I have always thought that ferrite is more likely the source of any free energy available, rather than the earth giving up energy from telluric currents or aetheric energy from high. I can also envisage potential danger in experimenting if this is the case, which is one of the reasons that I have stopped chasing the rainbow, at least until a lot more information on the true modus operandi is available and fully understood.

Seems reasonable,
It seems AG s post does points out some potential risk doing experiments.
Either we use a tin hat or we need to avoid those critical frequenty?
We should do some roundup in which freq. we need to avoid.

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on June 01, 2018, 11:23:04 PM
Here is  where the Italians discovered FeCl goes nuclear.. Sorry about the size

and so does (Fe Zr Mg) core..    P.S.  it's the "TV core" yoke everybody..

Acca...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2018, 11:33:05 PM
For these skilled in art:
You know what I'm talking about

Для специалистов  квалифицированных в искусстве Вы знаете, что я говорю ...............

Уэсли
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Thaelin on June 02, 2018, 04:36:41 PM
  And just did a search for FeZrMg alloy and the search engine went off line. Ok for other things tho. Hmmmmm?

Starting to see a pattern here. But then, if the combo goes beta, wouldn't want to be messing with it anyhow. Now without some lead sheilds.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 02, 2018, 09:39:04 PM
As far as I'm aware :)  Tariel in Green box used two grounds  apart from each other.
 1- cold water  pipe.
2 copper radiator  soaked with water  and buried at depth of ~1.75 m
the distance between two grounds  was around 25m
and now compare it to Wesley's contribution


Насколько я знаю, Тариэль в зеленой коробке использовал два гранда
  1 - труба холодной воды.
2 медь: радиатор пропитанный водой и похоронили на глубине ~1.75 м, расстояние между двумя грандами былo около 25 м
и теперь сравните его с Уэсли и вклад

Note: please note that distance between grounds  is pointed here - not distance  between  components of Tariel device.
Нота: прошу обратить внимание, что здесь указано расстояние между грандами, а не расстояние между компонентами устройства Tariel.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on June 02, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
At 11:23 in part 1 it can be seen that the water pipe is the only ground, as the end of the radiator cable can be seen laying on the ground. Despite this Kapanadze has claimed that the devices self-run with just one ground connection. The Aqua 2 device clearly demonstrates this.
Take a look at this shot: -

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 02, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
At 11:23 in part 1 it can be seen that the water pipe is the only ground, as the end of the radiator cable can be seen laying on the ground. Despite this Kapanadze has claimed that the devices self-run with just one ground connection. The Aqua 2 device clearly demonstrates this.
Take a look at this shot: -

At first video show  (prior to  link at 10:04)  car radiator    being buried. https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=257 (https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=257)
 
please look here . 
https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=604     link at 10:04 (https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=604)
then video shows  water pipe  connection  at 10:58 instead of radiator connection
https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=658 (https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=658)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 03, 2018, 12:51:17 AM
 https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474 (https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474)

Attachments:
1. http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/41332nelson/ndx_nelson.pdf.html  NOTE: you need to place mark I'm not robot
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery (http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/41332nelson/ndx_nelson.pdf.html)
 
Quote
To use the natural electricity, earth batteries fed electromagnets, the load, that were part of a motor mechanism.
3.https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433023210184;view=1up;seq=80 (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433023210184;view=1up;seq=80)     this is simply  a jewel.  1885 book talking about earth battery construction start from page 72
 it is related to  third picture below 


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 03, 2018, 02:53:38 AM
http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/41332nelson/ndx_nelson.pdf.html (http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/41332nelson/ndx_nelson.pdf.html)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: T-1000 on June 03, 2018, 10:36:23 AM
really? I always fought that green box worked on two ground wires, one for water pipe and other for buried radiator. I also dont like the Arunas diagram too, tesla coil secondary does not have such sharp  waveforms?
Hi guys,
You could just drop PM to me while getting confused with that pic which Wesley added.
First at all, the one ground rod or two ground rods it does not matter.
Second, the Tesla coil and middle plate of capacitor(top load) are separated by spark gap in that pic. Which is giving spikes we all need.
Third, you have to utilize electrostatic laws in order to gain more particles on the wire from the ambient. This is where current gain is without using power source.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 03, 2018, 01:57:04 PM

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: T-1000 on June 03, 2018, 04:09:19 PM
First we must be sure about the energy source and the mechanism of extracting it.
Good you mentioned that part.
In situation we have with Kapanadze style devices - we are dealing with what is the current on the wires and what happens when more particles with charges are injected into wire.
As soon that is realized there is current amplification in result. Which is your Volts x Amps = Power on output.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on June 03, 2018, 04:46:53 PM
T-1000
I agree about particles injected, but first how they are injected and second : how they are created or maybe they are already here but dormant till excited (Don Smith).
In fact this could be as simple as photoelectric effect caused by concentrated "cosmic rays" - that is explanation of Henry Moray and Nikola Tesla. Cosmic radiation may be involved also indirectly, that's my hypothesis. Somebody with  knowledge and radio tools can easily prove Tesla radiant energy patent by using directed radio antenna, HV capacitor , HV diode or Avramenko plug and of course ground connection. Such experiments should already be in books. EM wave directed to polished and insulated metal plate connected to diode and one side of capacitor when other end is grounded should charge that cap (or AV plug used).

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on June 03, 2018, 05:39:25 PM

 Hoppy says:if this "source of  energy" was hidden  "out of sight" than it must have physical connection  but you did not see  it as well as you did not see two ground connected at the same time.
by that  my last post remains valid and worth to be answered in the manner ( format) I   provide my answer to you.


Wesley

I posted a clip showing what I think could be the physical connection. Can you see a telluric or aetheric connection or is it hidden.  ;) Sorry if my formatting is not to your satisfaction. Good game.

I look forward to your next tranche of sketches on the theoretical modus operandi for the Kapanadze devices.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 03, 2018, 05:58:42 PM
I posted a clip showing what I think could be the physical connection. Can you see a telluric or aetheric connection or is it hidden.  ;) Sorry if my formatting is not to your satisfaction. Good game.

I look forward to your next tranche of sketches on the theoretical modus operandi for the Kapanadze devices.

" aetheric":
Quote
Some curious distance-phenomena connected with electric sparks were observed in 1875 by Edison (who referred them to a supposed new " aetheric force "), and confirmed by Beard, S.
This wording can be excluded  as phenomena in question have been  discarded by official science.  ( discarded: " no longer useful or desirable.")
the rest of remaining quote sounds like:
Quote
Can you see a telluric  connection or is it hidden

However  it is difficult to respond as we are talking in two different formats I do appreciate your answer:


Yes I can see presence of telluric current in  format that was  explained by me in form of two grounds, at this particular video ( https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474 (https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474)  )
6V measured by clamp meter .
For these who do not understand  two ground connection please read my previous posts.
It was practically explained  in 1885 without having any theoretical knowledge of science at 2018. They just could see phenomena  and they could not explain  its nature.So they did their best ( year 1885)
that is why  picture from below  should be interpreted as:
- YES we practically see something in 1885
- Yes we know how to practically  use it in 1885
- NO  we interpret it  differently in 2018.

I  include again  picture  below

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on June 03, 2018, 11:18:34 PM
Since this is Wesley's forum  I am listing two clips form a Russian man in South Korea that is now selling the magnet generators to all for 28 K.. UNLISTED
 as to the energy it's from magnets.. will provide more later..
Accca..

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=5XsjdSooSnw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=5XsjdSooSnw)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tldhi6nG2Zg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tldhi6nG2Zg)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: cheappower2012 on June 04, 2018, 01:10:00 AM
I see all kind of theories discussed,fact all of kapanadze devices operate at 50hz,in some devices
theres a frequency meter showing just that.In the green box video there is missing angles to show it could be real
this opens the door to people saying its a fake.The output in the green box video  is
220v ac,it goes thru a stepdown transformer to provide a dc current to loop the device.The 5 lights
operate at 1000 watts each so 5 equals 5 kilowatts output.Every time the arc jumps a very large pulse
is induced into the coil carrying 220 ac it is mixed with this pulse,this causes a digital voltmeter to not show an ac voltage reading correctly
as is shown in the video.In addition this particular clamp meter, has a defect where it can show a fake current reading
I have a clamp meter like in the video it has this defect,I also setup an experiment to show this effect and posted this a long time ago.There is no current from the ground connection
at all.Tariel uses tricks to fake people out,he pushes its a Tesla invention because people believe Tesla is a
god,so focus on Tesla and go around in circles,its not a Tesla invention nor has anything to do with Tesla.
Tariel wants to sell the idea of a free energy device,but will never reveal the secret,because you can't sell this device
so hes video's are not meant to fully prove hes devices are real only to convince the investor its real to rob him.
For hes devices to be real the sources of the energy have to be very powerful given the large currents
powering the various loads.Could it be fake,its possible it could be fake,however,Tariel must be a genius
in faking people out,or the people viewing hes devices are dumb as shit or it could be the devices are real,but operate in a completely different manner than any known device.I'm of the opinion they operate in a completely different manner,conventional theory will not work.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 04, 2018, 09:30:17 AM
In the style of Wesley.  :) Boasting.

Finally I repaired it! Ancient spectrum analyzer, USSR, 1970s.
10 MHz - 40 GHz
It cost me a little money and a lot of work.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: cheappower2012 on June 04, 2018, 10:53:15 AM
In both the green box video and the 2005 video he runs a stepdown transformer
with a bridge rectifier to provide feed back to loop the device,what voltage do you think
that transformer operates at and what  frequency.

The clamp meter I have is made by the same company as the one in the green
 box video,I bought it from harbor freight a while back.In the green box video your inducing large pulses,
why do you think he can't read 220 vac in a part of the video
,because the pulses cause false triggering in the meter.
Tariel is a very smart guy he must have discovered this fake current effect and used it to
create a wild goose chase.The arc ,spark gap and the large coil serve no purpose, its to fake you out that's related to something Tesla invented.

In one video he shows a 3 phase device in it ,there's a panel
that has a frequency meter it reads 50 Hz.


A certain Canadian guy presented a theory that the green box is fake
there is missing a few angles that would show hes theory would not work
however the green box video  is missing these angles this was not an intent
but simply there not shown,so it could be a fake device based on the video shown.
Figuring where things go from a video is hard if an angle view is missing.

I'm from the USA.

People tend to idolize Tesla and almost refer to him as a deity
this causes them to make mistakes.

Everything starts out as an opinion,is something plausible, is what I ask,
does this means its completely correct no ,but it is possible.
What the voltage is and what frequency is,is important as related to the type of load used.

I don't see you provide any scientific proof,your assuming that the
measurement of the ground current was correct,and speculating on that.
Since you don't know how hes device works,your no better than anyone else.I can see that your not open to new ideas and have an ego problem
also,so this will be my first and last post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgqUyJwdfVk
Two frequency meters show the output is 50 HZ
here is a jpeg of one,its a 3 phase device


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on June 04, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
If you want to understand Kapanadze you must see all videos of all devices together then search for missing answers in Barbosa&Leal patents. Wesley is partially correct , it's the flow of energy which exists around us, differently explained by various inventors. Some said about telluric currents, some about atmospheric electricity (even Figuera !) some about Earth magnetic field, some about cosmic rays or strange "aetheric force".
THEY ARE COMBINED , that's why we can't find the proper theory. We have situation of multiple energy sources and effects. Add to it possibility that magnetic field is a flow of stead state energy from different space-time and you see what a mess we have to explain !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 04, 2018, 12:54:26 PM
Add to it possibility that magnetic field is a flow of stead state energy from different space-time and you see what a mess we have to explain !
This is good in theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism)
But how to this theory solder transistors and light bulbs?  >:( It does not matter who and how, Tariel or someone else will start the topic and tell how to do it somehow.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 04, 2018, 01:34:19 PM
This is good in theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism)
But how to this theory solder transistors and light bulbs?  >:( It does not matter who and how, Tariel or someone else will start the topic and tell how to do it somehow.
if that is so, look no further than a Don Smith circuit and device lay out, if what you say works for you  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 09, 2018, 08:46:13 AM
That was a long time ago... :'( Here is the original, "first release":

https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=106822#106822 (https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=106822#106822)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 10, 2018, 09:42:08 PM

Dropbox :since this is more like diary or  storage box I will store here some handy  links that I found to be interesting or important.
So this  is my :

Dropbox #1
High Voltage Electrostatics:  http://www.keelynet.com/ (http://www.keelynet.com/)
-intro to electets: 
 htthttp://www.keelynet.com/electret.htmp://www.keelynet.com/indexjan16.html


-Self-Generating Electrical Discharge  Alexander V. Frolov :
http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov1.htm (http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov1.htm)
http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov2.htm (http://keelynet.com/energy/frolov2.htm)

http://www.rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm)                             Plasmatron (this link is partially BS  but has important information)
http://revolution-green.com/high-power-electrostatic-motor-95-efficency/ (http://revolution-green.com/high-power-electrostatic-motor-95-efficency/)     High Power Electrostatic Motor with 95% Efficency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6oAZi8Cc5I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6oAZi8Cc5I) 
three components  we need :
1.electrical  motor 1 or 3 ph.
2. capacitor
3. diode
all of them are present  in the video.
The guy has no idea  about (conditions and components needed):
a. resonance frequency
b.  two grounds ,
But he has Variable Frequency Drives VFD
to get  anything  is needed.
(this video in in relation  with material from above)

https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg400411/#msg400411  Solar Lab reference links.



Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 11, 2018, 12:17:24 AM
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on June 11, 2018, 03:13:22 AM
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag
Uh huh. I see you posted a link to my "subharmonic" demonstration video... but the message was lost on the target audience. Oh well.


Meanwhile: this might work for you:

MicroSemi ZL30167: among many other features:
"Four Programmable synthesizers generate any clock rate from 1 Hz to 750 MHz"
https://www.microsemi.com/product-directory/otn-timing/4622-zl30167
Get the exact, stable frequencies you need, beat them together, have a fine party.


Of course if you don't need absolute stability or multiple independent clocks you can generate a reasonable 9Hz signal with a 555 timer chip and a few resistors and capacitors.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 11, 2018, 04:40:23 AM
So here  is another factor supporting working model  of Tariel Kapanadze devices  promoted by me

Рабочая модель Тариэля Капанадзе, продвигаемая мной.
На этом острове нет электричества.
Тариэль подключил к устройству нагрузку 10 кВт. в виде лампочек.
Мы знаем что электродвигател без механической нагрузки тянет  больше тока, только в течение первых нескольких секунд .
После этого требуется часть "начального тока". (этот конкретный двигатель ~ 0.71 A при 220V.)
Почему Тариэль нуждался в этом моторе?
Ответ в сообщении, -( сделанны  мной ранее.) Просто прочитайте


Here  below is the picture  form presentation  that  was made on deserted remote island .
There is no electricity on that island.
Tariel had 10kW load connected to the device.  in form of light bulbs
 
We know that electric motor without mechanical load takes larger current only  during first few seconds and after that  takes   fraction of "start" current.
this particular one ~0.71 A at 220V.

So now THINK MY FRIENDS ...
Why Tariel was in need to have that motor there?

or
as an answer you take   material posted by me earlier?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLxTjc9m3k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXLxTjc9m3k)





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 11, 2018, 05:21:01 AM
Tinsel your a clever guy! any idea how I can generate a 9hz stand alone tone from a freely available crystal by division or knocking out bits ?
Since 9hz appears to be a resonant spacial lock on frequency rather than 8hz, the Don Smith device for one at 35.1khz.

Many thanks
ag
Interesting, tell me more
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 11, 2018, 08:19:13 AM
Interesting, tell me more
 
Wesley
Well Well it's complicated but with out going in to it too much, but it looks like the earth resonates at a base frequency of 8hz
and the universe at 9hz it can get spooky but things tend to end up being high energy based at ether one or the other frequency, or a
combination like 432 adds up to 9 the energy of the universe creation it self like it or not, and also divides equally 9 and 8 and it also in
harmony with us humans as in PLEASING HARMONIOUS music.
If your going to pick a frequency or vibration everything has to be in tune.
However base 9hz or 432hz is not an easy frequency to synthesis of the shelf!
What does it have to do with this subject ? EVERYTHING!

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 11, 2018, 12:44:25 PM


A century later EINSTEIN introduced  Special  Relativity  and  since  then  it  was  common  to  summarize MAX-WELL’s equations with four-vectors.
http://www.zpenergy.com/downloads/Orig_maxwell_equations.pdf (http://www.zpenergy.com/downloads/Orig_maxwell_equations.pdf)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on June 11, 2018, 04:39:01 PM

...  think i will try and get a a 9mhz xtal and a tube of cmos decade dividers  8) 8)
Hi AG,

You may consider these to get a 9 Hz signal:
1)  There is accidentaly just a 9 kHz crystal on sale at ebay ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/263714732731 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/263714732731) ) and you divide the 9 kHz oscillator you build from that crystal by 1000 to get 9 Hz. No need for a tube of decade dividers but only 4 pieces...  ;D

2)  There is the NE567 (LM567) tone decoder IC you may know or be aware of. It has a precision RC current controlled oscillator (better than that of say in the NE555) capable of operating from very very low frequencies. 

What I think it would also be practical to run the built-in oscillator at 9 Hz and phase lock it to the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz reference clock you derive from a normal 32.768 kHz oscillator and divider chain used in crytal controlled watches.

Yes,  the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz square wave may have a small amplitude at 9 Hz but using say a 2nd order active op amp band pass filter for 9 Hz would help to clean up and amplify  the 9 Hz signal component to feed the phase comparator input of the NE567 and establish phase lock with its internal oscillator, that would be your 9 Hz output signal.

Of course you would need to use good quality RC components for the active filter and for the NE567 oscillator (R1C1).  Here is the data sheet: http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Datasheets/NE567.pdf (http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Datasheets/NE567.pdf)  and pay attention to the several application hints too.  Texas Instruments still manufacturs this IC as LM567, what is more a CMOS version LMC567  too.   

Good luck.  8)

Gyula
PS,  Wesley,  sorry for this off-topic...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 11, 2018, 08:46:15 PM
Guys,


 I don t know its origin..  or its final doc.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on June 11, 2018, 09:58:49 PM
Guys,


 I don t know its origin..  or its final doc.

From Gerry Vassilato's book

http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gerry-Vassilatos-Secrets-of-Cold-War-Technology.pdf
http://borderlandresearch.com/book/secrets-cold-war-tech/chapter-1/7

Tesla doing disruptive discharges and projecting scalar waves (just voltage potential) that would manifest into current in distant metallic plates
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on June 11, 2018, 10:02:34 PM
We also found the shocking effect when tapping a stick welder's positive electrode to a large metal plate. Everybody in the room could feel a shock on their face and skin
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 12, 2018, 05:51:34 PM
We also found the shocking effect when tapping a stick welder's positive electrode to a large metal plate. Everybody in the room could feel a shock on their face and skin

Belfior,
Is it possible to repeat the "test" a several times to see if the effect occurs again?
Maybe ypu could also register some parameters... like voltage.....air moisturecontent etc. to see what the important parametersare?

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 12, 2018, 11:03:10 PM
Hi AG,

You may consider these to get a 9 Hz signal:
1)  There is accidentaly just a 9 kHz crystal on sale at ebay ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/263714732731 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/263714732731) ) and you divide the 9 kHz oscillator you build from that crystal by 1000 to get 9 Hz. No need for a tube of decade dividers but only 4 pieces...  ;D

2)  There is the NE567 (LM567) tone decoder IC you may know or be aware of. It has a precision RC current controlled oscillator (better than that of say in the NE555) capable of operating from very very low frequencies. 

What I think it would also be practical to run the built-in oscillator at 9 Hz and phase lock it to the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz reference clock you derive from a normal 32.768 kHz oscillator and divider chain used in crytal controlled watches.

Yes,  the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz square wave may have a small amplitude at 9 Hz but using say a 2nd order active op amp band pass filter for 9 Hz would help to clean up and amplify  the 9 Hz signal component to feed the phase comparator input of the NE567 and establish phase lock with its internal oscillator, that would be your 9 Hz output signal.

Of course you would need to use good quality RC components for the active filter and for the NE567 oscillator (R1C1).  Here is the data sheet: http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Datasheets/NE567.pdf (http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Datasheets/NE567.pdf)  and pay attention to the several application hints too.  Texas Instruments still manufacturs this IC as LM567, what is more a CMOS version LMC567  too.   

Good luck.  8)

Gyula
PS,  Wesley,  sorry for this off-topic...
Gyula thanks for the information I already have a a simple circuit to produce 1hz from 32k768 xtal it' sorting out the 9hz from it that will deserve some thought I already have a couple of LCM567.
cheers
Any way might use a cd4046 and a 4017 divide by 9 should give me the 9hz or any freq 1 to 10 or a chip that has  jam inputs not sure yet depends what bits i have.
AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on June 13, 2018, 04:37:53 PM
Hi AG,
You may find this paper (http://www.n5dux.com/ham/files/pdf/Synthesized%20Pulse%20Generator.pdf) also useful from this site (http://www.n5dux.com/ham/files/pdf/) once you fancy CD4046.  :)

Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on June 13, 2018, 06:06:10 PM
 “Dr. Le Bon’s texts contain secrets – very deep secrets as concerns radioactivity and the various means of releasing the intra-atomic energy of which he is the true discoverer. As has been validated, Dr. Moray often would study these texts of Le Bon in order to further pursue his various directions in the field of materials science and of vibratory dynamics. Presumably, these topics were advanced far beyond what we have been told, although we see very clear indications that Dr. Moray was learning the exact modes of applying techniques which Dr. Le Bon had begun to utilize in his Belgian laboratory.”
 
The Evolution of Matter
 &
 The Evolution of Forces
Two texts by Gustave Le Bon
 Reviewed by Gerry Vassilatos
 
 
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/46/n02/LeBon_Evolution_of_Forces_Matter_Review.html (https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/46/n02/LeBon_Evolution_of_Forces_Matter_Review.html)
 
It’s energy from the nucleus that is Kapanadze secret as the amount of particles from this de-stabilization of Fe in the TV core would be so small that it would require very precise instruments to determine that. As to Free energy it’s in the “atom”.. 
 
Acca..
 
 Wesley thanks for the history, as I also work in Earth sciences..[/font]
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 14, 2018, 01:15:50 PM
It's good sometimes to read old American books.
In the books you can find answers to various questions.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1805/1805-h/1805-h.htm (http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1805/1805-h/1805-h.htm)

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/634 (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/634)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 16, 2018, 09:53:58 AM
Yes, the launch for the mass appearance on the forums of the topic of electrets was this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4jWOKdQQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4jWOKdQQc)


in which a foil with perforated holes is removed from the package.
This film looks like a waste of an electret film from the production of electret microphones. I wrote on several forums several messages about electrets and their properties. It was about 10 years ago. :-\ Then the topic of electrets became popular and spread around the world. :o
Quote
Brooklyn Eagle July 10, 1932 Nikola Tesla states: I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device. Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood. I have advanced a theory of the cosmic rays and at every step of my investigations I have found it completely justified. The attractive features of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 18, 2018, 01:11:01 PM
Probably it will be interesting. My old experiment with electret.

Someone has read that some high-voltage capacitors are sold by a shorted with external jumper. Because they, even 100% discharged, can independently accumulate a dangerous charge. But not every capacitor can do this. Most can not.
Let's create this feature of the capacitors artificially.

 We take an ordinary "old scool" capacitor. For example, from the old Soviet microwave oven, K75-15 1 μf 5000 V. (https://images.by.prom.st/89785588_w640_h640_cid249172_pid65412256-11e5040f.jpg)
I chose this. But maybe some other one. I chose based on the fact that the capacitor should be with a combined dielectric. Dielectric - paper and plastic film. And everything is soaked in oil.
The paper does not press through when heated. Otherwise the softened plastic would be pressed and a short circuit formed.

so... let's go..
Very careful! Outdoors, not with combustible materials! Dangerous! Do not repeat!
(I drilled a small hole on the top of the condenser for the escape of gases. But I'm not sure that it's necessary. Depends on temperature.)

We take a small pan. We put the capacitor there. Place a wooden stand under the condenser so that it does not stand on the metal bottom of the pan.  Fill this small pan with oil. Sunflower or similar. We charge the capacitor with high voltage (I had 3.2 kilovolts). Leave it connected.
Heat to near the boiling point of the oil, 227 °Celsius.
We are waiting for 20-30 minutes. Switch off the heating.
After 2 -3 hours, when the oil completely cools, turn off the high voltage and discharge the capacitor with a screwdriver.
It is advisable not to cook in this pan afterwards. If capacitor oil gets there, it can be very dangerous for health.
Connect the voltmeter to the capacitor through 1 gigaohm and observe how the capacitor is self-charged "from the air".
If one terminal of the capacitor is grounded, and the other is connected to a polished ball and blow it with ionized air (from Chizhevsky's chandelier) - the capacitor is charged much faster.

The capacitor charges itself to 100 - 200 volts for 20 - 40 minutes. The effect lasted about 2 weeks, gradually weakening.
Under other conditions, it can be different.

To obtain significant energy in this form is not applicable. Although, anything can be.
Scientists call it "Electrostatic Adsorption"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 21, 2018, 02:37:20 PM
Gyula thanks for the information I already have a a simple circuit to produce 1hz from 32k768 xtal it' sorting out the 9hz from it that will deserve some thought I already have a couple of LCM567.
cheers
Any way might use a cd4046 and a 4017 divide by 9 should give me the 9hz or any freq 1 to 10 or a chip that has  jam inputs not sure yet depends what bits i have.
AG
Re above harmonious frequency's that don't appear to modulate your brain and are reported to have other useful properties of use here. :D
the 11.0592mhz xtal and a CD4060 are capable of producing multiple divisions of the 432hz frequency ie 1.382026 mhz will divide by 432 = 3200.
If this is of any use to you, with out going too deep feel free.
AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 24, 2018, 10:07:33 PM
Hi Wesley, guys,

I have been away for quite a while. Very busy with work.
Wesley thanks for posting your ideas on Kapanadze's devices.

A few comments:

It is good to have ideas, but I think most people would agree that at some point you have to put
those ideas to the test on the bench to see if they might 'hold water' or not. My approach over the years has been to take
various ideas found in forums like this and my own ideas as well and try to distill them down to the simplest test setups
I can come up with to put those ideas to actual bench tests.

Regarding some of the ideas you have been mentioning here:

Electrostatic charging of capacitors:
I have experimented with using a high voltage electrostatic voltage applied to one
plate of a HV pulse capacitor (low ESR) with the other plate of the capacitor connected to earth ground, and I
was only able to get a weak charging effect. The capacitor was 'charged' using HV discharge pulses
through a sparkgap and through a HV, high speed diode to rectify the pulses to DC, so the cap could charge.
I tried the HV diode in both orientations (cathode to ground, anode to ground) with the same very poor results.
Results: Very weak charging on the capacitor. Output power would be very tiny compared to input
power to drive the HV flyback transformer.

Using multi-plate capacitors:
I have run quite a few different tests with home-made multi-plate capacitors
at lower voltages being fed in different ways and taking off the power in different
ways and found that output power consumed by a load was always matched with a corresponding increase in input power.
Results: I was not able to find any test configuration that seemed to give more power out than in (at lower voltages).
At much higher voltages and using higher capacitance home-made multi-plate capacitors, you might see
different results, but based on my experiments with electrostatic charging of two plate HV caps mentioned above,
it doesn't look too overly promising from the point of view of my own actual bench test results.
If there is a way to get OU out of such a setup, it would seem there may be something else missing yet.


Wesley, I appreciate your efforts to share your ideas, but I find your ideas are sometimes a little too disjointed
and too cluttered with other info or comments, so sometimes hard to follow. For what it is worth, my suggestion
for people who have ideas of how Kapanadze's or others' claimed FE devices might work is
to try to condense your ideas down and make them as clear and to the point as possible.
Keep other less related comments and ideas completely separate from any specific idea you are trying to relate. :)

Then think about the simplest test setup you can try to put those clarified ideas to the test.  If you make an effort to do it
that way, I think you will find that many ideas can be put to the actual test with relatively simple test setups.
Without distilling ideas down to a basic and straight forward and practical test setup, you only have ideas. :)

Remember Kapanadze was apparently not trained at all in electronics and also apparently didn't even have
an oscilloscope, so if his devices really work then the principle behind it would seem not to be very complicated.
From what I have seen, many people seem to try to over complicate things, even though they are aware that
Kapanadze was using only a very simple setup and apparently only had simple measurement tools such as
a voltmeter/multimeter and clamp ammeters.

I understand why many people think Kapanadze's devices must be fake, as how could such a simple
setup such as Kapanadze's early electronic devices such as shown in his 2004 video demo
power five 1kW bulbs fairly brightly and also self power the driving circuitry?
(Note: the 2004 Kapanadze setup showed  that it had only one earth ground wire.)
However, Kapanadze has demoed his devices under various circumstances in front of various
different people and no one has so far reported any credible evidence of tricks that I have ever seen.

His devices could be fake, but, the island demo for one, realistically would have been very hard to fake
if the circumstances that were reported about that demo are fairly accurate. Kapanadze was said to have
been taken to a random beach on a random island by boat by some potential investors and his device
ran right there on the beach. For me anyway, although Kapanadze's or any other FE claimant's devices could be fake,
the varying conditions under which Kapanadze has demonstrated his devices over the years lends more credibility
to his claims than many other claimants, at any rate.

Wesley, the idea that Kapanadze's or Akula's seemingly similar setups could be geo-location dependent has also
occurred to me, and I have mentioned this possibility a few times in the past as well. This would mean
that if you are not in a suitable location, all your experiments on these types of setups might be pointless.
Don Smith definitely indicated strongly in at least one of his presentations that geo-location was important
for his earth grounded devices, for which some of the devices he presented were seemingly quite similar to Kapanadze's devices.
Don Smith's claims were not so credible to me however, as I am only aware of one presentation
where Don Smith put his suitcase device to the test in front of an audience, and it was a bit too short of a test
to try to draw any definite conclusions.
One thing that makes me question this geo-location dependent idea for Kapanadze's devices anyway, is Kapanadze seemed
to have no problem demonstrating his setup in Turkey, and I think someone mentioned that the island demo Kapanadze did
was in the Mediterranean area somewhere, if I remember correctly. His device apparently worked well on that island as well.
Akula's setup however, which may be related but different than Kapanadze's devices did seem to possibly be very geo-location
dependent, although Akula apparently did get his dual tesla coil device setup to self run and power one or two small
fluorescent bulbs at the same time, in Germany, according to one video that was posted to Youtube. It wasn't kW's
of output however.

Wesley, if you are interested, I will post info here on a related setup to Kapanadze's devices which I think has a lot of
similarities to Kapanadze's simple bare bones 2004 device and green box devices, and which is quite well documented,
and which I think is reasonably credible as well. Let me know...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 25, 2018, 02:10:00 PM
Found this while searching an interesting lecture from Don L Smith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81tQBaAsuU

watch it while it's still on !!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 26, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Did any one bother to observe or view and digest the Don L Smith film, I ask this as it is entirely relevant to our course.
If so you might be interested in the two postings below.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/fluxmg.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpendicular

I hope this all helps.

regards AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 26, 2018, 06:47:18 PM
Cheers Void

If any ones interested on the 'Fux' aspect of the Tesla original device D L Smith worked on.

See link https://donsmithcoils.blogspot.com/2010/06/don-l-smith-device.html

Regards AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on June 26, 2018, 08:07:02 PM
Hi AG,

Okay on your comments in the Stiffler thread, thanks, and hopefully you manage to build a simple synthesizer with reasonably small components count.   8)     Have you noticed my earlier reply to you here, perhaps you did:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg522477/#msg522477 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg522477/#msg522477) 

Gyula 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 26, 2018, 10:30:16 PM
Hi AG,

Okay on your comments in the Stiffler thread, thanks, and hopefully you manage to build a simple synthesizer with reasonably small components count.   8)     Have you noticed my earlier reply to you here, perhaps you did:

Gyula
Yes I did thanks  however I had already worked through a PCB design by then, but did think of building your design but the the MM5369 looks as if it has gone extinct by 2006 (divide by 17) as well as the 74C90's it might be possible to use a PIC F509 or similar device for the MM5369
See here
http://www.frank-buss.de/PIC100/index.html

and the 7490's a CD4518 dual decade counter that's pretty fast at 8 volts.
If i can solve those problems it would be worth making.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 27, 2018, 05:16:39 AM
Hi guys.

Sorry that the schematic image is a bit wide. I am in a hurry.
I will just post the schematic and patent doc I was referring to. Don't have time to comment much right now.

In around 1923, an American electrical engineer named Frank Wyatt Prentice was doing research work for the railroad
in the area of wireless power transfer/wireless power control, and says he discovered that sending
a HV HF waveform (at resonance) from a long wire a little above the ground in the freq. area of about 500 kHz
to a receiving loop antenna was giving him a power gain (COP) of about 6.
For now I will just attach the schematic with some explanatory notes I added and the Canadian patent application
document which was approved in 1925. Not sure why he patented it in Canada, but maybe he was working in Canada
at the time, but that is just a guess. Maybe there was some other reason.

He hypothesized that when the long wire transmitting antenna was at resonance at around 500 kHz that it was resonating with
the earth currents and this caused the mysterious power gain (COP of about 6). He used a sparkgap in the long
wire antenna and tuned the wire for exact resonance, and had two earth ground connections at each end of the long transmitting wire.

He used a small tuned loop antenna to receive the power. He stated about 500 W input and about 3 kW output,
powering 50 x 60W carbon filament light bulbs to 'full candle power'. See the attached schematic and patent doc.
Although I am pretty sure he was just guessing about his antenna resonating at the same frequency as earth ground currents
which caused the power gain, he does make some interesting observations about how small height and frequency changes
affected the output power. What really made it work (assuming he wasn't making a major measurement error) is anyone's guess.

Replace the resonant long wire transmitting antenna with a resonant tesla coil and the small loop receiving antenna with a receiving coil
and you would essentially have a very compact version of the setup seemingly similar to Kapanadze. He said you could replace the
earth ground hop with a metal wire, but it reduced the performance. Maybe Kapanadze just figured out how to make this sort of setup 
work with a single earth ground connection and much more compact arrangement...

P.S. I forgot to label #21 on the drawing. It is of course a sparkgap.
Frank Prentice may possibly have been a Canadian, as the patent ownership was listed as:
THE PRENTICE ELECTRIC POWER APPLIANCE COMPANY OF CANADA LIMITED
However, for some reason Frank Prentice put his location on the patent drawing as Meadville, Penn'a (Pennsylvania).
At any rate, what I am drawing attention to is the similarities of the setup in his patent doc to Kapanadze/DalyAkula devices. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 27, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
An interesting side note on 'Frank Wyatt Prentice'.
I found an entry on the ancestry.ca website for a 'Frank Wyatt Prentice'.
The info listed seems to match reasonably well with the Frank Wyatt Prentice who filed the Canadian patent:

Frank Wyatt Prentice (1868 - 1937)
Born in Garrettsville, Ohio, USA on 1868.
Frank Wyatt Prentice married Adelia Roberts and had 6 children.
He passed away on 7 Nov 1937 in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
https://www.ancestry.ca/genealogy/records/frank-wyatt-prentice_69000255

So, if this is referring to the same 'Frank Wyatt Prentice', it seems he was
born in the USA but later moved to Canada. This would seem to explain why
this guy seemed to be associated with both the USA and Canada, and filed his
patent application in Canada. If it is the same guy, it appears some of his children
might still be alive, although they would be pretty old.
The wonders of the internet... :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on June 29, 2018, 07:02:07 AM
hm.. 500khz .. that's a wavelength of lambda 1= 600m

how ever one could use lambda1/4 as a coil ore box antenna without ending up having what's called a magnetic antenna as long as you use a relateivly  long groundwire  (say 20m for a first test) .
look at the videos of some of the guyes, some of em mad a lot of effort to get the best earth ground they can get .. and at the same time they use a sh..ty wire to connect to the device! an allways relatively long sooo?

just how i look at it :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 29, 2018, 08:22:07 AM


Here is some of what I take away from Prentice's patent comments as being noteworthy:
The frequency you tune to may well be quite critical, and you may have to experiment tuning through a wide range of frequencies
to see what might work in your specific location and with your specific setup. I think this would not be so easy to do at all with
a tesla coil which resonates at a specific frequency.

Hi Void,

Yes it could be a important parameter the location and its specific frequenty to tune.
This would not make it easyer due we would need to stick on the long wire principle........   Using the wire as a coil it would effect its inductance and therefore the needed caps to tune it in the right specific resonance (earth).
This all together probably the first step to think about is resulting in a lot of "mayor" changes...regarding the patent setup.

1- if specific frequenty is approx 500khz.... and the setup needs in that order a specific reactance from the capacitor this needs to be related to the wire inductance (coil part), so changing the wire into a coil would have a mayor effect on this relationship.

2- If the frequenty is not depending on the location .... and more related to the COP factor it would be possible to use shorter wire (same physical configuration),..  but using a higher frequenty.

This last statement is in fact also a kapanadze/ dally approach due the wire lengths are shorter and also the inductance ( now it is getting tricky,...  800 mter wire what would its inductance be?...  would it approx. the same as the bifilar kapanadze coil?  ( 100- 300uH)

Lets formulte some objectives before starting drilling groundrods..

a) Wire or coil in relation to capacitance / inductance reactance ........is a specific capacitance reactance needed?
b) Is wirelength a power factor or related to the needed eart(location) frequenty?

Just some out of the box suggestions.


Greetings


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 30, 2018, 04:26:51 AM
We appear to again be wandering off onto esoteric operating theories that really in my opinion do not relate to what we witness as in Kapanadze's various demos. Kapanadze stated to a.king21's team during the Aqua2 demo, along the lines, that the earth ground was not essential and that the device could work without it, albeit at reduced performance. Also, Kapanadze was wary of operataing the device during stormy weather conditions. This information, if accurate, does not suggest to me that the source of energy was from the ground. The Aqua 2 device apparently had just one ground wire, so could not have operated using the two ground rod principle shown by Wesley. The clues here rather suggest an aeriel source of energy that is returned to ground via the device. Those that have carefully studied the 'green box' series of videos will have seen an aeriel wire from the perimeter fence adjacent the roadway, to the tree in the garden. Although its not possible to conclude that this wire was carrying energy to the device, nonetheless, in my opinion, its far more unlikely that the source of energy was contained within the device box itself. Ruling out simple deliberate faking, then maybe Kapanadze discovered some clever method of extracting energy using an elevated long horizontal aerial??

Hi Hoppy. I personally make no definite assumptions about how these setups might actually work,
if any do really work. That could end up leading a person down the garden path if they make one or more wrong assumptions.
However, we do know all the basic components used by people like Prentice and maybe Daly
as well, so, for people who are interested, experimenting with similar setups without making
any assumptions where ever possible is probably not a bad approach to take.

If the story and video of Kapanadze's demo on the island is at all accurate, there wasn't likely
any chance of Kapanadze or his friends preparing anything at the unknown location in advance.

Regarding Prentice. In 1923 when 'energy shortages' were probably unheard of, there wasn't likely any large
and pressing monetary motivation for Prentice to 'make up' the claims he made in his patent application. He probably
just viewed it as an interesting anomaly that might potentially be made use of commercially some day, but there probably
wasn't any  pressing motivation at all back then for Prentice or others to spend too much time investigating it further.
This is why I find his patent document to be very interesting, and why I have posted the details here again.

My thought is why the sparkgap at the end of the long wire? Could it be doing something similar to what Kapanadze is using one for?
The problem for experimenters is sparkgaps generate a lot of HV electrical 'noise' (wideband radiation) and it often makes
digital equipment go on the blink or sometimes blows circuits. Not so easy to work with if you want to try to do careful measurements. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on June 30, 2018, 09:58:44 AM

My thought is why the sparkgap at the end of the long wire? Could it be doing something similar to what Kapanadze is using one for?
The problem for experimenters is sparkgaps generate a lot of HV electrical 'noise' (wideband radiation) and it often makes
digital equipment go on the blink or sometimes blows circuits. Not so easy to work with if you want to try to do careful measurements. :)
Hi Void,

Interesting thought about the Prentice long line spark-gap. If the Prentice patent bears a resemblance to Kapanadze's devices, then it might explain the apparently low tech and rather crudely contructed devices in his demos. The grenade might be acting as a HV step-down transformer. As you say, its a difficult platform for experimentation.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 30, 2018, 06:43:27 PM
I think the following attached drawing is the general idea of how these setups might be 'over unity' (COP > 1).
The drawing is not at all meant to be a working OU circuit, but just shows the general idea of how these setups
might possibly achieve COP > 1. When we include interaction with the surrounding environment in a setup, we may
no longer have an entirely 'closed loop system', and the potential is there at least for seeing a COP > 1 by drawing in
energy from the environment somehow. Exactly how it might work, such as capturing cosmic or solar radiations / high energetic particles
or ions or other charged particles, or by resonating with telluric currents, or drawing in 'energy from the vacuum', etc. is still anyone's
guess I think, unless someone wants to spill the beans here. :) 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 30, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Hi Apecore. Unfortunately I think no one can say for certain what might work and what might not.
My suggestion is for anyone interested to look at the basic components of circuits by
people like Daly, Akula, and Prentice, and try some different setups and see what kind of results you get.
If anyone gets any interesting results, they can post those results here if they like.


Void,
Thanks again for your response.
I do agree we do not know what might work...  but we do have the oppertunity to disclose  f.e.  Wyatt's system step by step,...  by doing tests and see whats happening,....  important is the explanation why it will or won't do what was expected.

I like your simple approach in your last post....  i do agree we have to "cut "the elefant in pieces...  else we won t get in "standing up and walk"

I d like to combine the next step..    the resonance of the wire(19) in to your simple schematic.
In my opinion a  wave wil to fit into wire (19)...  The patent is suggesting that 0.8Km  compares with 0.5Mhz....  when tuned..  its close to the ( 300/ 800 = 0.375Mhz)...
In this case probably a full wave between secondary (13) and SG (21)...
When we use shorter wire length ratio's the frequenty will increase.... 

I did some measurements on a 40meter wire in my garden... placing it in a big circle in order to have the both ends close together for measuring the inductance.
This 40meter wire has a inductance of approx 55uH.
If we want to start from the convetional way...  (Coil>> Cap>> resonance) ..  the HV caps connected to earth will be very small.
As comparing to the Wyatt setup..  the frequenty at a 40Meter wire would be 20 times higher....  about 10Mhz..

Unless this all makes it proabably much difficult i do think we need to stay as much as possible to the original Wyatt patent configuration.
I hope you agree with this approach.

Greetings



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on June 30, 2018, 07:49:03 PM
Apecore, it sounds like a good experiment approach to me.
I have conducted a number of experiments along this line already in the past,
so I am now taking a bit of time to review some of the basic setups by Kapanadze, Prentice, Daly, Akula again
and thinking about it all some more. As soon as I get some time I will continue with more experiments.
I am still reviewing info and thinking more about it all right at the moment. Trying to think
of some different approaches to take based on what I have already tried in my previous experiments. :)




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on June 30, 2018, 08:05:34 PM
Apecore, it sounds like a good experiment approach to me.
I have conducted a number of experiments along this line already in the past,
so I am now taking a bit of time to review some of the basic setups by Kapanadze, Prentice, Daly, Akula again
and thinking about it all some more. As soon as I get some time I will continue with more experiments.
I am still reviewing info and thinking more about it all right at the moment. Trying to think
of some different approaches to take based on what I have already tried in my previous experiments. :)

Ok i m fine with that.

I will see if i can make a setup running on either a sub harmonic (primairy side)..  in order to tune the secundairy at the approx. 10Mhz.
Getting it running and stable...   should be the first goal.

And of coarse frequenty adjustable in order to tune the secundairy frequenty in most efficient way

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 01, 2018, 02:46:43 AM
Negative resistance generator: Chua’s Circuit Presentation and Applications chaotic generator.
some reference material.
We are interested with impedance  generator  based on  resistance generator.
http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/ (http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/)
 http://www.jestr.org/downloads/Volume6Issue4/fulltext11642013.pdf (http://www.jestr.org/downloads/Volume6Issue4/fulltext11642013.pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIBFuuJiy4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezIBFuuJiy4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-XsyeFfp-U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-XsyeFfp-U) (#0124) Relay Relaxation Oscillator with Negative Resistance

Wesley


 
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on July 01, 2018, 05:49:18 PM
With a grounded system one is looking at something similar to the lightening return stroke. The earth echos back a reciprocal of the E wave which needs to be converted from it's conjugant state by plasma coupling or inductance. Each bolt of lightening has up to six strokes one to the earth one back from the earth etc.   http://apollo.lsc.vsc.edu/classes/met130/notes/chapter14/stroke3.html

look here, can you see the quandry of this Tesla device? 
It is also negative resistance and what he used to record lightening strikes:

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/coloradonotes02.htm#Colorado%20Springs%20Notes%20-%20June%201-30,%201899

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 06:01:45 AM
Hi Wesley. While the two separate earth ground approach may very possibly be a viable
way to achieve COP > 1 (Frank Prentice used two separate earth ground connections on his transmitting long wire, for example),
in all the Kapanadze demos videos I have seen, Kapanadze appeared to use only one earth ground connection (at a time). You have
seen Kapanadze's setup operating up close in person once or twice right? Do you agree that it only used one earth ground connection?
Just want to see if we are on the same page on at least that particular detail. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 06:40:36 AM
Negative resistance generator: Chua’s Circuit Presentation and Applications chaotic generator.
some reference material.
We are interested with impedance  generator  based on  resistance generator.
http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/ (http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/)

Interesting video!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 02, 2018, 05:12:31 PM
I have seen, Kapanadze appeared to use only one earth ground connection (at a time).
Do you agree that he only used one earth ground connection?
In presentation made for me Tariel used only one ground wire.


In the picture from my last post Romancorp  used two grounds one was the ground
connected to heating system  pipe feeding cast iron radiator.
the second  ground was neutral wire from  the outlet.

But in my posts in regards to capacitive coupling and antenna theory.
-So  antenna  at 10th floor of the building uses counterpoise or  balancing mechanism  for the antenna to work.
-So the antenna of the car radio  uses metal body of the car as counterbalance.
-So  the  your  cellphone walkie- talkie ( hand-held, portable, two-way radio transceiver.) uses human body as counterbalance.
 at the time when your cellphone is on the table  far  from your body . the microprocessor of your fractal antenna  in side  makes SWR balancing with earth.

However  early versions of  cellphones did not use such   microprocessors and that is why they have had antennas.
Mismatching of impedance  from output  of TX often made  High End- (the RF amplifier)  to burn.
That is why  these devices  where  bulky . Due to that fact Wireless Cell Network was at that time designed to have 1 mile radius and not more than 1W output form cellphone RF transistor to an antenna.
That made Cellphones to be smaller but still heavy.( at that time)

Matching impedance  of an antenna to expected 50 Ohm ( standard)  output  of TX  by means of capacitive adjustable coupling with  counterbalance  ( ground)
is always done by LC circuitry.-where C and cpacitive reactance is leading.
Negative  effect of  this is that  if you look at Smith Chart you dealing with circuit  showing leading Capacitive Reactance means High  Voltage , low current

Summary:
In regards to Loads. Please  first  read
power factor correction capacitors :
http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_lagging_power_factor_and_leading_power_factor (http://www.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_lagging_power_factor_and_leading_power_factor)
In Kapanadze or any other later designs  ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT MUST BE CLOSED LOOP.
You can employ any possible means or technique but  the system will only work if that condition is present.

If you look at  waveguide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide)
it does not differ from natural waveguide of the earth and ionosphere https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93ionosphere_waveguide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93ionosphere_waveguide)
Most of the things were made buy nature and we only  repeated it into the scale of our comfort.

By that  you may see physical one ground  only ,and that is what gives you  the headache.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 02, 2018, 06:41:35 PM
Wesley,
Please explain how antenna theory relates to Kapanadze's devices?
Antenna theory explains balancing and grounding system.
antenna must have ground  to be able to work.

The structure of antenna and Transmitter must have ground.
But in practice your  receptors do not see the  ground.
So where is the ground?

By that  we may ask  where is the second ground in Tariel device?
But that is actually very good for us- the people  assuming that  Tariel Device works.
Artificial ground
https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2118 (https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/2118)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 07:11:09 PM
In presentation made for me Tariel used only one ground wire.

In the picture from my last post Romancorp  used two grounds one was the ground
connected to heating system  pipe feeding cast iron radiator.
the second  ground was neutral wire from  the outlet.
...

Hi Wesley. I think that the Romancorp guy has made some interesting experiments, but I don't
know that he has ever showed anything that looks like it might be a self-runner. Have you seen
a video of his that shows what looks like it might be a self-running setup? I have only watched a
few of his videos in the past. Hard for westerners to follow since he is speaking Russian.

BTW Wesley. You seem to be assuming that everyone in these forums has little or no knowledge of physics or
electronics and radio/antenna theory etc. Hoppy is trained in electronics I believe and he has many
years of experience at the bench from what I understand, and I am also formerly trained in electronics and
electrical engineering, although I have made my actual living in another area for the past many years.

I understand well about capacitors and inductors and AC circuit theory, including power factor and power factor correction, 
and have even learned to create and use Smith charts a long time ago (I don't remember so much about them specifically any more),
and I have a fair bit of experience experimenting with different types of antenna setups in the past as well.

It is because of that knowledge and experience that I am inclined to think that using conventional analysis of these sort of setups
may only take you so far before you run into a wall, and may even lead you astray if you try to hold to that approach too rigidly.
Something seems to be going on in these setups which appears to defy conventional analysis, although I do
leave the door open that maybe there is a way to explain the operation of these setups with current understanding
and analysis approaches. 

Frank Prentice tried to explain how his setup was producing a COP >1 by hypothesizing about his
setup resonating on a similar frequency as telluric currents, as I think for patent applications you have
to give some indication that you understand what makes your 'invention' work, but some of Frank Prentice's
other comments in his patent doc indicate that the frequency he needed to tune to was very dependent
on the height of his long wire above the ground. There was not one specific frequency that made it produce
a COP > 1. For this reason I think he was probably just guessing, offering an 'explanation' that seemed to
make sense from a conventional understanding point of view. :)

This is how I see things anyway. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 02, 2018, 09:26:28 PM
The natural tendency is for people to try to analyze and explain these setups using a conventional understanding of DC and
AC circuits and radio and EM wave theory, etc, but the problem with that approach is that conventional analysis seemingly has no way to
explain how these setups can produce a COP > 1. This of course leads many people trained in science and engineering to assume that all people
making claims of COP > 1 with electrical or mechanical devices along these lines must either be frauds or nut cases. :) However, when I look
at cases like Frank Prentice and even Kapanadze, I have to say that there could possibly really be something going on in some cases
with these type of setups that defies conventional analysis and understanding. This is why I say it is probably better to
make no definite assumptions about how it might be producing a COP > 1, because conventional analysis of these setups may well just
lead you further down the garden path. What is really going on may be something that is just not understood yet, or maybe only
just hypothesized about in some scientific circles. That's how I see it anyway. :)

Void, Hoppy and Wesley,

You may hit the nail on his head.
If it is indeed a convential engineered setup ... probably many many related types of setups would be working for many years already.
The big secret is far from conventional electronics.... just think about Tesla's or Prentice background knowledge before they start discovering and testing.
There was no conventional knowledge as we have now.......
Difficulty is not to think in modern electronics ....on the other hand people without electronic background these days won' t start testing with these kind of setups.
So all stays uncovered.....(are we not all being trolled..... from the start we went to high school?)

We all think in resonance ....LC..... but never in earth_resonance....Tesla did...and Prentice also.
Maybe we only need to focuss on the phenomenom as Tesla did and what he or Prentice drove forward to there discovery?

Unfortunatel i did not finished my electric engineering....but maybe this will not constrain me thinking in different area.
But nevertheless we still need electronics... so you guys are still needed here.... its only the way we configure... hook_up and tune our devices have to be different.

Question...where they able to work into the Mhz region those days in 1920?
Is it for that they used longer wires because the frequency was the bottleneck?

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 02, 2018, 09:26:43 PM
OK lets consider a Tesla coil, it probably has a L1 Primary of 800 turns, perhaps a 1Mhry inductance, but lets look at the L2 coil 2 or 3 Turns
perhaps .4uh inductance where we pulse it has any one made any experioments trying to tune the thing for optimum performance,
had any results ?

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 02, 2018, 10:04:19 PM

........ but the strange thing here is Kapanadze has apparently claimed
that his setup can still work without an earth ground connection, but probably with poorer performance I would guess, and
Prentice also said he could connect a metal wire between the two ends of his long wire bypassing the ground hop, but it reduced
the performance, and Akula demonstrated in one of his earlier demonstration videos that his setup would still seemingly self run with
the earth ground wire not connected, but apparently with less power output capacity.


Don t forget,...  wire laying on the ground or metal parts near the ground do have ground connection due it has capacitance......which could explains why the performance is less.
The air is electrostatic...  so a conductor.
Again.... always a closed loop with earth,...  we only set things in motion....  vibrating ...  creating waves as Tesla said :)


greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 10:14:34 PM
Don t forget,...  wire laying on the ground or metal parts near the ground do have ground connection due it has capacitance......which could explains why the performance is less.
The air is electrostatic...  so a conductor.
Again.... always a closed loop with earth,...  we only set things in motion....  vibrating ...  creating waves as Tesla said :)
greetings

Hi apecore. Yes, this is true, but realistically the capacitance to ground of an electronic circuit
like Kapandze and Akula have used, sitting on a chair or a table is relatively small (maybe 1000pF or less as
a rough guess). We are talking about circuit setups that need to produce say at least 50 to 100 Watts to be able to self
loop and keep running. Try an experiment where you must rapidly pulse charge a capacitor of say 1000pF or less
and try to draw at least 50 Watts average power off that capacitor. I think you would need a very, very high pulse frequency to achieve
that by conventional means, if you follow me.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 02, 2018, 10:26:08 PM
Hi apecore. Yes, this is true, but realistically the capacitance to ground of an electronic circuit
like Kapandze and Akula have used, sitting on a chair or a table is relatively small (maybe 1000pF or less as
a rough guess). We are talking about circuit setups that need to produce say at least 50 to 100 Watts to be able to self
loop and keep running. Try an experiment where you must rapidly pulse charge a capacitor of say 1000pF or less
and try to draw at least 50 Watts average power off that capacitor. I think you would need a very, very high pulse frequency to achieve
that by conventional means, if you follow me.

Or a high voltage and less puls frequenty.

P = 0.5 x C x V^2 x f


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Here is something else to consider.
Kapanadze's 2004 demo video showed what appeared to be a very simple setup.
220V AC in connected to a power transformer and what looked like a diode full wave bridge rectifier.
A couple of devices on black heat sinks, which were probably transistors, his simple coil assembly, and 
a small tobacco can with some wires running into it from the various external components. I think maybe there was
possibly another external cap visible near the diode bridge if I remember correctly. Besides an external ground wire connection,
that was the extent of his 2004 setup.

if you look at the way the sparkgap glowed in that 2004 video demonstration, it was clear that the
sparkgap was conducting relatively low current, and it was probably running at a least a kHz and very
possibly a bit higher in the kHz range to appear the way it appears in that video. This leads me to think that the
two devices on the two black heat sinks were probably transistors used in a push pull arrangement to
drive something like a small flyback transformer inside the tobacco can. The type of glow on the
sparkgap looks very much like the glow you will see from a flyback transformer discharging through a sparkgap and
running roughly in the frequency range of about 15 to 20 kHz or thereabouts.

In some later Kapanadze demonstrations he showed a sparkgap that seem to discharge at a lot lower
frequency and it glowed white like it was conducting a lot larger current. This could possibly have been done
in these later demonstrations to try to throw people off. The 2004 demo seems more interesting to me
because Kapanadze didn't seem to be trying to hide things too much except for what was in the tobacco can.
Maybe Kapanadze does make some sort of home-made capacitor or other component which he kept hidden
in the tobacco can.

What I am trying to point out here is the sparkgap seen in the 2004 demonstration was definitely
discharging at a low current (the soft violet glow color) and looks very similar to a sparkgap driven
by a simple flyback driver in the range of 15kHz to 25 kHz or so. In other words, the sparkgap looks like it
was probably driven by a typical flyback driver or some other very similar type of HV transformer driver.

Simple circuit setup.
220V at 50 Hz in.
Probably a flyback driver or very similar driving the sparkgap at low current. The flyback transofrmer may have been in the tobacco can (it would fit with no problem).
Maybe something else hidden in the tobacco can. Maybe a homemade capacitor as some people have speculated, or some other mystery component.
An earth ground connection.

That's all there was to it. There wasn't a whole lot of room in the tobacco can for much else.
Again I understand why many think it must be fake. There just wasn't a whole lot there.
However, if it is not fake, then it boggles the mind.
Such a simple setup with the sparkgap only conducting very low current, yet it apparently self ran
and could apparently power five 1 kW light bulbs at least fairly brightly while self running.
This is why I say that if it really works it may well be working on a principle that is as yet not understood. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 02, 2018, 11:00:22 PM
Or a high voltage and less puls frequenty.

P = 0.5 x C x V^2 x f

The voltage would have to be very high. Also, we are not likely really talking about 1000pF,
as only certain wires or coils had high voltage on them, The capacitance to earth from
high voltage wires or coils was probably a fair bit less I would think. :) Akula showed in that
demo I mentioned that he could light some bulbs as well as self run without an earth ground wire connected. 
If it was legit, at any rate it seems something way out of the ordinary was occurring, whatever it may be. :)
I think we should be able to at least agree on that.

Prentice seems to have taken a bit different approach back in 1923, but given the general similarities to Kapanadze's setup
it may possibly work on the same mysterious principle (if they really work).

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on July 02, 2018, 11:48:51 PM
In Teslas system he concentrated on the B field for his wireless.  If one will notice his later systems are always inductively matched to the ground then antenna wise  a top load to capacitively couple to the air with a spherical cap.  Modern RF we have abandoned the idea of ground match coupling beyond a mismatched wire, well aside from sub communication.  Purturbing the scalar earth magnetic field and taking advantage of this on the receiving end works wonders.

Look at the Magnifying Transmitter patent and one can determine Dr Tesla was using 1/4 wave resonator for about 1mhz although the calculations are not quite accurate as the earth has a diff speed of propogation to free air.

Modulating RF as PM or FM produces the longitudinal factor which with dual sideband can deliver about 16/1 info over carrier freq. as with 4g
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 03, 2018, 12:51:47 AM
The voltage would have to be very high. Also, we are not likely really talking about 1000pF,
as only certain wires or coils had high voltage on them, The capacitance to earth from
high voltage wires or coils was probably a fair bit less I would think. :) Akula showed in that
demo I mentioned that he could light some bulbs as well as self run without an earth ground wire connected. 
If it was legit, at any rate it seems something way out of the ordinary was occurring, whatever it may be. :)
I think we should be able to at least agree on that.

Prentice seems to have taken a bit different approach back in 1923, but given the general similarities to Kapanadze's setup
it may possibly work on the same mysterious principle (if they really work).
Sure the Earth makes a big difference but what about the wingdings and resonance 1/4 wave or less what do we know
about the wingdings ?
( the program keeps altering my spelling sorry about that)

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 03, 2018, 03:26:38 AM
Sure the Earth makes a big difference but what about the wingdings and resonance 1/4 wave or less what do we know
about the wingdings ?
( the program keeps altering my spelling sorry about that)
AG

I personally don't know what exactly Kapanadze was doing with his special coil.
His coil assembly used in his 2004 demo was similar to the one used in his green box demo,
or it was the same one, but I don't know what is known about how it was wound, beyond people guessing at it.

Jean-Louis Naudin thought he had figured it out with his 'kapagen' experiments, but when he eventually measured the
input and output power with a suitable method it had a COP < 1. It seems whatever info Naudin got about that
setup was either wrong in one or more ways, or he was still missing something else very important from the setup.
Kapandze's 2004 setup used less than 100 Watts at the input. Naudin's Kapagen used a lot higher input power
and had COP < 1.

Something related to consider.
A quarter wave resonant antenna or quarter wave resonant tesla coil requires a ground to
to work to its max efficiency, but a half wave resonant antenna does not require a ground or ground radials.
A quarter wave antenna has much less losses if you use many radials laid on or near the ground for the ground return
because the actual ground is typically quite *lossy* to radio frequencies. If the ground is lossy (has a significant resistance 
at radio frequencies) then why did Prentice and Kapanadze get COP > 1 results when connecting to an earth ground point?
Again, for me it points to very possibly something else going on than what we typically see with radio antennas,
and what we might expect with conventional analysis. The ground is supposed to be lossy at radio frequencies, and at
lower frequencies and to DC as well. 

If half wave antennas do not require an earth ground or ground radials to work to max efficiency,
then if Kapanadze wound a half wave resonant coil would he no longer need a ground connection?
I don't know, and I don't expect anyone to actually have an answer to that except maybe Kapanadze himself. :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on July 03, 2018, 05:10:35 AM
Wireless Power Transmission one wire and Negative Resistance   http://www.mdpi.com/1996-1073/11/3/532/pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 03, 2018, 10:21:23 PM
This lot should keep you busy !

Don L Smith
Video 1 1994:
https://youtu.be/U9sy8gPxj3k
Video 2 1995:
https://youtu.be/6Vnxdc1EGFY
Video 3 1996:
https://youtu.be/Ak8Vyqjoz1M
Video 4 1998: https://youtu.be/AmVe92YauZA
Video 5 2001:
https://youtu.be/Xgwg82ZVaDA
Audio 1 2003:
https://tinyurl.com/y7sdmse3
Video 6 2005:
https://youtu.be/_nG_Y7pTljQ
Video 7 2005:
https://youtu.be/cAOG8GzjaLE
Video 8:
https://youtu.be/xBF8VPYGl-g
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on July 04, 2018, 12:20:07 PM
TO GET THE KAPADNADZE  CIRCUIT GOING, ONE NEED A VERY GOOD EARTH GROUNDING..PLUS AN UNDERSTANDING
OF STANDING WAVE FUNDAMENTALS.. AND OR MASSIVE CURRENT DISPLACEMENT THEORY.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 04, 2018, 03:27:21 PM
TO GET THE KAPADNADZE  CIRCUIT GOING, ONE NEED A VERY GOOD EARTH GROUNDING..PLUS AN UNDERSTANDING
OF STANDING WAVE FUNDAMENTALS.. AND OR MASSIVE CURRENT DISPLACEMENT THEORY.
Unless you have a degree ftom Oxford uni on In electromagnetism displacement of Maxwell's equations that is defined in terms of the rate of change of the electric displacement field.
The idea was conceived by James Clerk Maxwell in his 1861 paper On Physical Lines of Force, typically  in connection with the displacement of electric particles in a dielectric medium.

Maxwell added displacement current to the electric current term in Ampère's Circuital Law. In his 1865 paper A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field Maxwell used this amended version of Ampère's Circuital Law to derive the electromagnetic wave equation.

This derivation is now generally accepted as a historical landmark in physics by virtue of uniting electricity, magnetism and optics into one single unified theory.

The displacement current term is now seen as a crucial addition that completed Maxwell's equations and is necessary to explain many phenomena, most particularly the existence of electromagnetic waves. ect
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 04, 2018, 03:49:53 PM
Pay attention here! Generating a standing wave couldn't be simpler  if one knows whats required one could simply get a tube wind two matched wingdings on the tube and a half or 1/4 wave, and winding on the top of a slider tube for tuning, be aware though simply faffing around with guesswork just wont do here! because you could simply be wasting your time and resources with complacency.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 04, 2018, 07:38:23 PM
Those demos are often highlighted as some kind of substantive evidence that Kapanadze's devices are genuine. However, we have even less detail about these demos than we have for Kapanadze's home demos. Its not beyond possibility that these were staged to strengthen belief / enhance the illusion that his devices are genuine. Does anyone know the name / location of the island used for the demo, or exactly where the Turkey demo was staged?

I spoke to a guy from Turkey who is interested in such things a couple years ago via private email who said
he attended the demo by Kapanadze in Turkey. I didn't ask him where it took place, but that info has
probably been posted on the net somewhere at some point. It does seem to have been a real event. Sorry. :)

I think we all get that some people here _believe_ strongly that Kapanadze must be a fake,
but until that is established with some actual evidence instead of wild unfounded speculations, 
some people here may well continue to discuss and experiment with these things on the off chance
that there might really be something to it. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 04, 2018, 08:25:37 PM
Void the established proof that Kapanadze is the real deal is proof that it's real technology and that Wesley's experiment was proof of that effect is also real ..


I am sold that this power is from the "inter-Atomic" energy like the Coleman patent..


See Infinite Energy magazine it's all there the last 30 years is of proof , "just read and swallow some humble pie"..


Standard science is corrupted as is old models are still " force major" in education..


If you feel that your brain stamping was imprinted at the university level then " you have a problem..."


Threats to the "standard model"  will be defended with very " deep brain washing at the university level"..


and worse if you step out of line .... Stephan Marinov  was such a man RIP..


Kapanadze had no brain stamping as he is outside of that "system"...Russian science is also corrupt...


To step out of this " intellectual farm as you have been imprinted " takes learning effort...


Criticism is the " gang drive by shooting " of  an postulate that is to be killed because ignorance is comfort.


Enjoy the "the Fourth" as most of the signers where hunted down and killed for their ideas..


Acca..



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 04, 2018, 08:48:39 PM
Hi Acca. I could be wrong of course, but I tend to think that Kapanadze's setups might
actually be legit, otherwise I wouldn't have spent so much time on it already. :)

Kapandze's 2004 setup, which I think was his most open and simple setup that I have seen
on video anyway, is sure a puzzler though.

Wesley, or anyone else, do we know for certain if Kapanadze's coil assemblies in his
2004 demo or green box demo, or other demos, had any sort of ferrite or metal core?
I seem to recall Kapanadze stating in an interview that he only uses air core windings,
otherwise he won't get the effect. Kapanadze could say things like that to try to mislead people however.
Has it ever been established whether his coil assemblies were really only air core coils?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 05, 2018, 09:53:50 AM

Kapandze's 2004 setup, which I think was his most open and simple setup that I have seen
on video anyway, is sure a puzzler though.

Yes indeed and its strange to me that he ran this device on a cluttered work bench, given that his intention was to presumably persuade the audience that he had a self-runner.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on July 05, 2018, 09:57:37 AM
VOID IF HE WAS NOT LEGIT , THEN ALL THOSE ELECTRICIAN ,ENGINEERS WHO WERE THERE VERIFYING
THE DEAL ARE A BUNCH OF ........
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 05, 2018, 04:15:59 PM
create HV HF using LV -> HV cap -> pulse to a trafo -> OU

if you charge the a cap bank 35000 times per second with 9000V, that is a significant charge in the caps. The load wants amps which is charge/time

Everybody seems to think it is something magical and they always have to pull in nuclear freaking fusion or Schuman frequencies or solar eclipses.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: myenergetic on July 05, 2018, 05:54:10 PM
Hi AlienGrey 
On your Reply #235 on: July 04, 2018, 03:27:21 PM

Without having a degree from oxford UV in electromagnetism displacement of Maxwell's equations the argument should be properly defined.

1, If your argument is based on the Maxwell displacement current then “Maxwell displacement current” either in vacuum or in dielectrics, neither generate magnetic field nor are sensitive to external magnetic fields. In other words current in dielectrics “The polarization current” does not act with potential forces on other currents and “external magnetic field” does not react with kinetic forces to the action of other currents.

2, Displacement current is a quantity appearing in Maxwell's equations that is defined in terms of the rate of change of electric displacement field. Displacement current has the units of electric current density, and it has an associated magnetic field just as actual currents do. However it is not an electric current of moving charges, but a time-varying electric field.

To conclude the above I quote from
“Harry McLaughlin” https://www.quora.com/profile/Harry-McLaughlin

a. A "changing" electric field CANNOT create a magnetic field
b. A "changing" magnetic field CANNOT create an electric field “end of quote”

3,The so-called "displacement current" term (1/4π) ∂E/∂t is not some current density generating magnetic field, as Maxwell supposed. This term gives information about the conduction currents which have been interrupted in the neighborhood of the reference point.

4, For what it worth, we cannot measure magnetic field produced by displacement currents but we can measure exactly the field of the interrupted conduction currents. Even if the details are not so obvious and require a skill to understand but what the equations imply is that the electric and magnetic fields depend only on the source charges. It is our orientation relative to the source charges and their motions that give rise to the details of the fields we measure.

From Maxwell basic equations the only sensible is the existence of εo and µo
∂E/∂x=-Zo ϵo  ∂E/∂t
∂H/∂x=-μo/Zo ∂H/∂t

And they express that the E field causes the E Filed and The H field causes the H field
WOW what a discovery!!!!

The Equations only express that E and H fields are co-existent, co-substantial, and co-eternal like any two perpendicular sides of a brick neither the length affects the width or the width affects the length.

Hope it helps
jj
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 05, 2018, 10:36:36 PM
create HV HF using LV -> HV cap -> pulse to a trafo -> OU

if you charge the a cap bank 35000 times per second with 9000V, that is a significant charge in the caps. The load wants amps which is charge/time

Everybody seems to think it is something magical and they always have to pull in nuclear freaking fusion or Schumann frequencies or solar eclipses.
Belfior
Your comments are some what erratic which of your ideas do you consider will bear fruit?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 06, 2018, 02:24:34 PM
 This is what Ruslan says about this clip.. Wow…!!!
 
 
“In general, so .... I'm fed up with your stupidities and insults. In this regard, no one else will receive anything. My video will not be any more. Bathe in your shit, disbelief and snot further. And I'll do it ... Instead of arguing with you (With idiots who do not do anything ... Only with the tongue can you do it) No more words!”
 
 
В общем так.... Мне надоели ваши глупости и оскорбления. В связи с этим больше ничего не получит никто. Видео моих тоже больше не будет. Купайтесь в вашем говне , неверии и соплях дальше. А я делом займусь... Вместо того чтобы тут с вами спорить (С идиотами ,которые ничего не делают... Только языком трепать умеете ) Больше ни слова !
 read all his comments there too....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8)
 
 Acca…[/font]
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 06, 2018, 02:45:56 PM
This is what Ruslan says about this clip.. Wow…!!!
 
 
“In general, so .... I'm fed up with your stupidities and insults. In this regard, no one else will receive anything. My video will not be any more. Bathe in your shit, disbelief and snot further. And I'll do it ... Instead of arguing with you (With idiots who do not do anything ... Only with the tongue can you do it) No more words!”
 
 
В общем так.... Мне надоели ваши глупости и оскорбления. В связи с этим больше ничего не получит никто. Видео моих тоже больше не будет. Купайтесь в вашем говне , неверии и соплях дальше. А я делом займусь... Вместо того чтобы тут с вами спорить (С идиотами ,которые ничего не делают... Только языком трепать умеете ) Больше ни слова !
 read all his comments there too....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8)
 
 Acca…[/font]
Acca.... you carn't argue with that, it's been going on for years, there is a Don Smith (not sure what to call it book pamphlet of information.
It to is on the net any one who is interested should find it and digest it or just shut up and forget it, but in saying that there are the ones who stir good information with gibberish !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 06, 2018, 02:55:59 PM
Quote
This is what Ruslan says about this clip.. Wow…!!!
 
 “In general, so .... I'm fed up with your stupidities and insults. In this regard, no one else will receive anything. My video will not be any more. Bathe in your shit, disbelief and snot further. And I'll do it ... Instead of arguing with you (With idiots who do not do anything ... Only with the tongue can you do it) No more words!”

Ruslan is not the first inventor to get fed up with the ignorant masses vindictive ranting and he won't be the last.

The fact remains that there are inherently stupid people who will never succeed at anything and then there are brilliant, intelligent people who do things other people will never understand. The mistake most make is assuming anything they cannot personally understand cannot work... do you see the problem?. Obviously stupid people cannot understand anything however this is not the case for intelligent people like Ruslan and Kapanadze. The proof of there intelligence is the fact they have succeeded in making working devices and no amount of ranting and whining by the ignorant can change that fact.

You should be thankful Ruslan and Kapanadze have given you what they have to date.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 06, 2018, 03:05:56 PM

This is Ruslan posts from the clip below seven months ago ... You may get some benefit from the theory as he is now pissed off now more than ever at the stupid people.. Who want a free device with no learning on their own..
 "First of all, I do not owe you anything, it's time! Secondly ... if people do not grow their hands from there, it's their problem. I told you how it's done and showed it !!! And about the ships and so on ... I'm not even worried! For me, all will be done by lawyers. I'll return my generator and run it like two fingers .....! Now one more thing ... You just wrote here that you did not collect? So ? So you're waiting for a cookie? You see ... Until you start to think and do something, nobody will give you anything here. There are no such people! I say, get busy, do not sit here and do not listen to gossip. It will not be easy, but I want to assure you that the systems work for the entire 10,000%
 
Во-первых я тебе ничего не должен , это раз ! Во вторых ...если у людей руки не от туда растут ,это проблема их. Я рассказал как это делается и показал !!! А насчёт судов и так далее ... Я даже не парюсь ! За меня всё сделают юристы . Я верну свой генератор и запущу его как два пальца .....! Теперь ещё один момент... Ты сейчас тут написал что не собирал ?! Так ? Значит ты ждёшь готовенькое ? Понимаешь ... Пока ты сам не начнёшь соображать и что-то делать,никто тебе ничего тут не даст. Нет таких людей ! Говорю же , займись делом , а не сиди тут и сплетни не слушай. Будет не легко ,но хочу тебя заверить что системы работают на все 10 000 %
 
I've painted all the tips already many times. Do not think that a miracle will happen and you will do everything so easily. Nobody just does not give anything from the bald. you need to think for yourself. I have been working since 2013, while undermining my health and a lot of money sometimes in the pipe. Risking many .... You do not understand this! At the same time, I tell and suggest thoughts. But for some reason, no one listens, but all the time yelling: "Give me a scheme, give me a Scheme ..." And the funny thing is that people who have nothing to do with electronics and radio amateurs are getting into this business .... Agronomists are different, doctors .. .. Buying oscilloscopes and details without knowing even the use of it ...!
 
Я расписал все подсказки уже много раз. Не думайте что произойдёт чудо и Вы так легко всё сделаете. Никто просто так от балды ничего не даст. думать головой нужно самим. Я работаю уже с 2013 года , при этом подрываю здоровье своё и кучу денег иногда в трубу . Рискую многим .... Вам этого не понять ! При этом я рассказываю и навожу на мысли. Но почему то никто не прислушивается , а всё время орёт : " Дай схему, дай Схему ..." А самое смешное что в это дело лезут люди ,не имеющие никакого отношения к электронике и радиолюбительству .... Агрономы разные, врачи .... Покупающие осциллографы и детали не зная даже применения им... !
 
And where did you get that this bifel resonates? Remember once and for all !!! A high-frequency transformer can not be multi-layered. For the first layer transmitting, and the second accepting layer. Or vice versa ! This time ...! 2. Try to rewind the double Tesla and run ... :) will it work? NO !!! The effect of a standing wave can only be in a long conductor, or wound coil wound to a winding. I already told you about how Tesla compared water to electricity. On the watery surface you can not create another .... It's the same here! So the bif shakes on top, and the bottom of Tesla :) Next, think!
 
А с чего вы взяли что это бифеляр резонирует ?  Запомните раз и навсегда !!!  Высокочастотный трансформатор не может быть многослойным . Ибо первый слой передающий, а второй принимающий. Или наоборот !  Это раз... !  2 . Попробуйте ко намотать двойную Теслу и запустить ...:) будет работать ? НЕТ !!!   Эффект стоячей волны может быть только в длинном проводнике , или смотанном в катушку виток к витку . Я уже рассказывал про то как Тесла  сравнивал воду с электричеством. На водяной глади нельзя создать ещё одну.... Тут тоже самое !   Значит биф мотается поверх , а снизу Тесла :)  Дальше соображайте !
 
What the fuck is the fish? Are you all staring at the oscilloscope? What for ? Beat all the indications of the devices. Use the oscilloscope only to check the frequency and pulses ... Ie. their presence in the circuit. the rest should not be measured. 2. Where is the cold end of Biff? What the hell? The bif is rewound in order for one layer to work as a transformation, and the other as a filter! The transformer in the air can not be multi-layered ... Otherwise it just will not work as it should. I already said this more than once ... But why then you can not connect my explanations for each element separately? Where are you all in a hurry? Once again I say that in this system everything looks like an ordinary generator. But the force of the current pushing (magnetic field) in the coil to guide the EMF makes TESLA current and standing wave. Suppose there are two Tesla .. Reception-transmission ... In the system, you can get by with this one coil. But then you need to do the Kapanadze system! That is, put the standing wave into resonance. And it's stupid to choose capacitors for a surge arrestor. Not very effective and convenient. will all go for a walk and output voltage too. Therefore it is better to use Tesla to guide the high voltage voltage + the frequency of the Tesla receiver that is under your coil. Simply if you try to repeat the Shark ... Then there he hid this Tesla cunningly and when I was looking for how to create this wave in the first layer of Biff, I was tortured to horror. The system of course worked, but hemorrhoids and not stable. In fact, at the outlet of the Akulina installation 100 Hz and 209 volts was My last development on the ignition coil also worked on the same principle. The coil gave a pulse with a repetition frequency of 50 Hz. Because there the output is clean 50 Hz and 230 volts. Since it is by controlling Tesla that you get the current swing by inducing the EMF, in other words, twist the magnetic field in the coil or vibrate there with a frequency of 50 Hz .... Remember the words of Kapanadze? When you understand that this is so simple, you will laugh ... Draw conclusions
 
Какие нахрен рыбки ? Вы всё в осциллограф пялитесь ? Зачем ? Забейте на все эти показания приборов.Используй осциллограф только для проверки частоты и импульсов...Т.е. их наличие в схеме. остальное замерять не надо . 2. Где по вашему холодный конец Бифа ? Что за фигня ? Биф мотается для того чтобы один слой работал как трансформация, а другой как фильтр ! Трансформатор на воздухе не может быть многослойным... Иначе он просто не будет работать как полагается. Я это уже сказал не раз...Но почему то вы не можете связать мои объяснения по каждому элементу отдельно ?! Куда вы все спешите то ? Ещё раз говорю что в этой системе всё похоже на обычный генератор . Но усилие толкания тока(магнитного поля) в катушке для наведения ЭДС делает ТЕСЛА ток и стоячая волна. Допустим стоят две Теслы .. Приём-передача ... В системе можно обойтись и одной этой катушкой. Но тогда надо делать по системе Капанадзе ! То есть загнать в резонанс стоячей волны . А это тупо подбирать конденсаторы для разрядника. Не очень эффективно и удобно. будет всё гулять и выходное напряжение тоже. Потому лучше использовать Теслу для наведения высоковольтного напряжения + частота приёмной Теслы что находиться под вашей катушкой. Просто если вы Акулу пытаетесь повторить...То там он хитро спрятал эту Теслу и я когда искал как создать эту волну в первом слое Бифа , замучился до жути. Система конечно работала ,но геморройно и не стабильно . На самом деле на выходе у Акулиной установки 100 Гц и 209 вольт было Моя последняя разработка на катушке зажигания тоже работала по тому же принципу. Катушка давала импульс с частотой следования 50 Гц . Потому там на выходе чистые 50 Гц и 230 вольт . Так как именно управляя Теслой вы получаете раскачку тока наводя ЭДС , другими словами крутите магнитное поле в катушке или вибрация туда сюда с частотой 50 Гц .... Помните слова Капанадзе ? Когда вы поймёте что это так просто , вы будите смеяться ... Делайте выводы
 
I feel what you understand! But! it is the lower winding that is the resonator of the standing wave !!! But this is not a coming winding, but Tesla. All that is served on it ... Type Dali and the rest ... It's possible! For example, 25 watts of Shark in Germany. Exactly the same miracle I did for the states and the Lord on the channel has this device. It is in America and there it was launched by the Americans themselves. But I got there 40 watts and even a little more. But there is a minus .... Tesla there when transported raped by the company for transportation (throwing parcels) In general, it does not matter .... Kapanadze said about the fact that this is all available to everyone and patents weigh in nete in free download. There is also a rotoverr (Dynamo-car) Also by the way one of this opera ....
 
Чую что начинаете понимать ! Но ! именно нижняя обмотка и есть резонатор стоячей волны !!! Но это не приходящая обмотка , а Тесла . Всё что на неё подают ...Типа Дали и остальные... Это возможно ! Например 25 ватт Акула в Германии . Точно такое же чудо делал и я для штатов и у Лорда на канале есть этот девайс. Он в Америке и там его запускали сами американцы. Но у меня там получилось снять 40 ватт и даже чуть больше. Но есть минус .... Тесла там при перевозке изнасилована компанией по перевозке (швырянию посылок) В общем не важно .... Капанадзе говорил про то что это всё доступно каждому и патенты весят в нете в свободном скачивании. Там же есть и ротовертр (Динамо-машина) Тоже кстати одна из этой оперы....
 
So guys! I'll tell you all easier. If you want something to collect, do not pursue the power. So the pumping is simple without resonance. Tupa is a magnetic alternating field! Next ... Position the coils so that one coil with its own field does not stack with the other. That is, the shift must be done. Otherwise OLED will interfere! Now we remember Tesla and when we bring to her a sheet connected through a light bulb to the ground ... What do we observe? The answer is correct! Light bulb shine :) This current you need! Now, by inducing this all on your reel, the end of which is grounded ... You make the magnetic field longitudinal (pushing) and transverse, creating a flow of motion! I told you that the generator of BTG works like a normal generator. Hence Tesla pushes the current, or in other words, pushes or carries the magnetic field away from the pump by a longitudinal field. There is no OEDF! Nothing hinders and there is no resistance either! How are we in the classics? Currents on the sides of the coil?! Here! Boca then do not match :)
 And now make a controlled Tesla! That is, interrupt the pushing of the current at a frequency below the pump. This is the current flow! Well guess what, finally, damn ....
 How much can you say that?
 
Так ребята !   Я скажу Вам всем проще. Если вы хотите что либо собрать ,не гонитесь за мощностями. А значит накачка годиться простая без резонанса. Тупа магнитное переменное поле ! Далее ...Расположите катушки так чтобы одна катушка своими полем не складывалась с другой. То есть сдвинуто надо сделать. Иначе ОЭДС будет мешать !  Теперь вспоминаем Теслу и когда подносим к ней лист подключенный через лампочку на землю... Что мы наблюдаем ? Ответ правильный !  Лампочка светиться :)  Этот ток вам и нужен !  Теперь наводя этим всем на вашу катушку ,конец которой заземлён ... Вы делаете магнитное поле продольное(толкающее ) и поперечное ,создающее поток движения !  Я же говорил что генератор БТГ работает как обычный генератор . Значит Тесла толкает ток или другими словами продольным полем сталкивает или переносит магнитное поле отрывая его от накачки. ОЭДС нет !  Ничего не мешает и сопротивления тоже нет !  Как у нас по классике ? Токи по бокам катушки ?!  Воот ! Бока то не совпадают :)
А теперь сделайте управляемую Теслу ! То есть прерывайте толкание тока с частотой ниже накачки. Это и есть движение тока !!!  Ну догадайтесь же уже наконец блин....
Сколько можно говорить то ?
 
I can not say anything about aluminum. Did not try! You need to tune in and Tesla resonate ... To get a current. Grenades do not need to be shaken. Still do not know why and what they do. You blink one layer long, the other a little shorter. All with one wire. A long coil pumps a magnetic field, a short one removes it. if there is not enough voltage, do the docks from the converter. But the output must be filtered by HF. Otherwise, your resonance will swim away
 
 It is better to find ferrites 2000NM. And build as SR did. It is much better to start and understand the processes. I recall that the electromagnetic standing wave is working !!! Because of the addition of waves, we get an increase in the magnetic field, and then its effect! Antenna can also enhance? My theme - the broadcast. I collected not a few transmitters and antennas. Unfortunately homemade designs of this all can not be used in modern broadcasting, but I know about it all. You can put a good antenna system and not burn electricity to kilowatts in the feeder. There's something like that in the generators ...!
 
Не могу сказать про алюминий ничего. Не пробовал !  Нужно настроить в резонанс Теслу и приём ...Чтобы появился ток . Гранаты мотать не надо. Всё равно не знаете зачем и что они делают. Тупа мотаешь один слой длинный ,другой чуть короче. Всё одним проводом. Длинная катушка накачивает магнитное поле , короткая снимает. если не хватает напряжения , докинь с преобразователя. Но выход должен быть отфильтрован по ВЧ. Иначе твой резонанс уплывёт
 
Лучше найди ферриты 2000НМ . И сооруди как СР делал. Намного лучше будет для начала и понимания процессов. Напоминаю что работает электромагнитная стоячая волна !!!  Из-за сложения волн мы получаем увеличение магнитного поля , а там и его действие !   Антенна же тоже может усиливать ?  Моя тема - передачи в эфир. Я собирал не мало передатчиков и антенн. К сожалению самодельные конструкции этого всего нельзя использовать в современном радиовещании,но знаю я про это всё. Можно поставить хорошую антенную систему и не жечь электричество  на киловатты в фидер. Тут в генераторах что то подобное ...!"
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUuuCLbYs4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUuuCLbYs4)
 
The Ruslan comments are from this clip posts..
 
Acca ..
 
Sorry for the delay in posting this late (months ago)..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 06, 2018, 04:01:15 PM
 Ruslan Kulabuhov free energy flashlight videos and files..

https://yadi.sk/d/Xpw0TXrF3NNsTt


1 Фонарик
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4qHPQocEQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4qHPQocEQc)
 
 2 Фонарик , часть вторая !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbIzIjyEMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNbIzIjyEMw)
 
 3 Фонарик без батареек
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0R2T_JRGrI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0R2T_JRGrI)
 
 4 Заключение !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekmi_Xqb8l8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekmi_Xqb8l8)
   
   
UPDATE 19 Января 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_le-AI8jp-E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_le-AI8jp-E)
 
here are the perpetual Ruslan flashlight diagrams files..
 
 Acca…[/font]
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 06, 2018, 04:07:39 PM
This is Ruslan posts from the clip below seven months ago ...
...

Thank you Acca. That is really interesting!


P.S.

Wesley, this part is interesting:
Чую что начинаете понимать ! Но ! именно нижняя обмотка и есть резонатор стоячей волны !!! Но это не приходящая обмотка , а Тесла . Всё что на неё подают ...Типа Дали и остальные... Это возможно ! Например 25 ватт Акула в Германии . Точно такое же чудо делал и я для штатов и у Лорда на канале есть этот девайс. Он в Америке и там его запускали сами американцы. Но у меня там получилось снять 40 ватт и даже чуть больше. Но есть минус .... Тесла там при перевозке изнасилована компанией по перевозке (швырянию посылок) В общем не важно .... Капанадзе говорил про то что это всё доступно каждому и патенты весят в нете в свободном скачивании. Там же есть и ротовертр (Динамо-машина) Тоже кстати одна из этой оперы....

Ruslan mentions that Akula could only get an output of around 25 Watts when he tried his setup in Germany,
and we have seen a youtube video posted previously for that.
Then Ruslan seems to be saying that he made a device for some people in the USA, and it also had a similar problem
in that it could only produce about 40 Watts? Ruslan seems to be saying that this device is in America?
He also mentions someone's name 'Lord' something? DragonsLord76? What did Ruslan say?
Wesley, can you improve on this translation? Sounds interesting...

Regarding this video:
TopRuslan 32 - Аппарат с использованием энергии окружающей среды 16вт
(TopRuslan 32 - The device using the energy of the environment 16W)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8

Ruslan commented:
Резонатор в этой системе отсутствует.
искра в качестве гашения  лишних  зарядов
Однополярный
There is no resonator in this system.
spark as a suppression(?) of extra charges
Unipolar

Looks like Ruslan has possibly figured out how to make it work in a similar way to Kapanadze. 
Instead of a tesla coil it has a sparkgap which seems to be firing at a fairly low frequency and pulsing,
as would happen when repeatedly charging a cap to a high voltage and discharging through a sparkgap.

In another comment Ruslan mentioned he would not sell his devices any more because he
had to deal with police and court because someone in Lithuania apparently made legal trouble for him.

Ruslan still appears to be actively experimenting with these setups.
I was on the fence with whether Ruslan's demos might be legit or not, but I am starting to think
they just might possibly be legit as well. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 07, 2018, 02:50:34 AM
Quote
He also mentions someone's name 'Lord' something?
Let me guess?... Lord Kelvin. Aka Lord Kelvin's HV water drop electro-dynamic generator which leads full circle back to one Viktor Schauberger, the water wizard from Austria. Nikola Tesla was born in Croatia almost next door to Austria, maybe it was something in the water?.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 07, 2018, 03:14:23 AM
Let me guess?... Lord Kelvin. Aka Lord Kelvin's HV water drop electro-dynamic generator which leads full circle back to one Viktor Schauberger, the water wizard from Austria. Nikola Tesla was born in Croatia almost next door to Austria, maybe it was something in the water?.
Oh struth a bottle full of water (a capacitor), Schauberger it means mountain man ! Have you got any thing useful for us like how to wind the bobbin ? mein Freund. ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 07, 2018, 05:14:26 AM
I did a measurement of the sparkgap firing rate for Ruslan's mini 16W demo setup with the clear top.
It comes out to between 35 Hz to 37 Hz. The small variation may be due at least in part to my measurement error.
The sparkgap firing frequency on this setup is very regular, so it appears to be fired using electronically controlled pulses.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 07, 2018, 09:43:24 AM
I did a measurement of the sparkgap firing rate for Ruslan's mini 16W demo setup with the clear top.
It comes out to between 35 Hz to 37 Hz. The small variation may be due at least in part to my measurement error.
The sparkgap firing frequency on this setup is very regular, so it appears to be fired using electronically controlled pulses.
Ive seen some of Ruslans compact grenate devices before they just wind an inner tube resonant with the rest of
the wingdings and simply pulse it at that frequency (electronically). There is a formula for finding the frequency versus wave length chosen and also res freq of wire length it was in a commercially available book. Smith Kelly.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 07, 2018, 01:57:18 PM
I did a measurement of the sparkgap firing rate for Ruslan's mini 16W demo setup with the clear top.
It comes out to between 35 Hz to 37 Hz. The small variation may be due at least in part to my measurement error.
The sparkgap firing frequency on this setup is very regular, so it appears to be fired using electronically controlled pulses.

Hmm could that be half of 60Hz and he is using something to double that freq? Gap firing to a coil at around 30Hz, caps on both ends of the coil and you end up with 60Hz?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Thaelin on July 07, 2018, 05:28:06 PM
Better known as Smith Charts. Learn em, use em, they may be difficult at first but when you grasp them, makes calculating values easy. Then tune it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 07, 2018, 05:33:07 PM
Hmm could that be half of 60Hz and he is using something to double that freq? Gap firing to a coil at around 30Hz, caps on both ends of the coil and you end up with 60Hz?

Hi Belfior. Not sure what the output waveform might look like because he didn't show
any waveforms, and he may not show any more details than that. Ruslan's setup still seems more complicated
than Kapanadze's early demonstrations, so who knows if these Akula/Ruslan type setups might really work at
all the same as Kapanadze's setups. I think we all do have most of the pieces of what makes up these
Akula and Ruslan setups, as Akula and Ruslan did reveal a fair bit. I think they both may have held back on
one or more important details still however, so more experimentation still needed. I could be wrong, but I think
there may possibly be some clues there in all those comments and videos that were made previously. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Thaelin on July 07, 2018, 05:37:01 PM
Waited too long to modify so will add separate. Here is a quote from the search:

 
Smith chartThe Smith chart, invented by Phillip H. Smith (1905–1987), is a graphical aid or nomogram designed for electrical and electronics engineers specializing in radio frequency (RF) engineering to assist in solving problems with transmission lines and matching circuits.

The last five words, priceless.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 08, 2018, 07:41:19 PM
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 08, 2018, 10:27:07 PM
Hi Hoppy. Kapanadze was not connected to the grid however.
You can not draw any significant power from the grid with just
a single earth ground connection, unless maybe you are directly
under high tension power lines.

Hi Wesley. Thanks for the video.

The Romancorp demo is questionable to me because it seems to be connected directly
to the grid, which opens the door for ground loops and similar. I am not sure what he was using as the
AC source (generator?) connected to one of the transformer winding pairs there. A separate
generator (isolated from ground?) or connected to the mains... Those kind of tests can be
misleading without taking great care to observe and identify what is completely isolated from ground
and what isn't. I have been fooled myself in some cases until I switched to battery power on generators
and measuring equipment to make sure I was fully isolated from ground.

Note:
When two electrolytic capacitors are connected '+' to '+', or '-' to '-', this is a way to
make a non-polarized capacitor from two polarized electrolytic capacitors. Required if
you want to use polarized electrolytic capacitors in an AC circuit. I would be concerned about
possibly causing an electrolytic cap to explode when doing this, but apparently this is an acceptable
way to make a non-polarized cap out of two individual polarized electrolytics.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 08, 2018, 10:57:24 PM
I will .. after I stop. I'm traveling
 You do not  watch my video  carefully look at
Capacitor voltage Transformer
Capacitive Voltage Transformer Reactor
it is on my video in the  description of the schematic  next to
Tesla coil.
and than google it please.

Wesley

Hi Wesley. I think you may be misunderstanding me.
I was just pointing out that connecting '+' to '+' on two
polarized electrolytic capacitors is done to make a non-polarized
capacitor out of two polarized electrolytic capacitors. I was not implying anything
other than that. :)
Enjoy your travels!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 08, 2018, 11:03:56 PM
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c)

Wesley

Hah! Even TheOldScientist agrees with me. He is even saying "try to understand what I am saying!"

His input is 7V and some amps for covering copper losses. He is charging a cap with 165V. With that input. So how many Farads you need to run selflooped with 165V?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 08, 2018, 11:05:35 PM
Hi Hoppy. Kapanadze was not connected to the grid however.
You can not draw any significant power from the grid with just
a single earth ground connection, unless maybe you are directly
under high tension power lines.

Agreed but we cannot be sure that there was not a concealled earth connected to grid neutral.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 08, 2018, 11:14:49 PM
Hah! Even TheOldScientist agrees with me. He is even saying "try to understand what I am saying!"

His input is 7V and some amps for covering copper losses. He is charging a cap with 165V. With that input. So how many Farads you need to run selflooped with 165V?

Hi Belfior. It is not about comparing input voltage to output voltage however.
It is about comparing average input power to average output power.
It takes power to charge capacitors. People sometimes forget this in their enthusiasm.
Having a sparkgap and/or earth grounds in the mix could possibly/potentially allow pulling in extra energy from the environment however.

We should not try to draw any conclusions from any test which is not self looped or which does make an accurate
measurement of average input power and average output power.

That should be every free energy experimenters motto to live and breath by. :)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 08, 2018, 11:14:50 PM
so if the secondary is looped with a cap so they are in resonance, then the cap will charge immediately, because there is no resistance?

You could charge a 9000V cap instantly with 7V input and maybe 200mA using a tesla coil or a flyback. Then if the freq is high, then the cap charges 200k times per second. That is a lot of charge going in, if the output side (trafo&inverter&mains voltage?) pulls 230V 60Hz

TheOldScientist tried to tell the viewers to try to understand. He basically says "if you can charge a capacitor to 165V with 7V 200mA input, there is a lot of charge there!"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 08, 2018, 11:21:07 PM
Please read my  answer to Hoppy up there
You can always have one physical and another  virtual ground  and.... elevation potential .
Watch my video  again please my friends
 I actually posted how to build traditional first version of TK with spark gap. I just did not point at some details .
Wesley
So are you referring to the elevated 'washing line' from tree to roadside in Kapanadze's garden green box demo as the virtual ground and elevation potential?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 09, 2018, 12:01:27 AM
A couple of Kapanadze quotes:

Kapanadze - at 8:38 in the 'Green Box' video demo:
"Some think that the device uses stray currents.
I would argue the opposite.
It is not of travelling fields and stray currents.
There is one thing, we take the energy from the environment.
The unit is assembled on the principle of Tesla."

Kapanadze - at 55:05: in the 'Green Box' video demo:
Between us speaking, grounding it is not required.
Instead of grounding, it is necessary to use a small circuit.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 09, 2018, 12:09:12 AM
Kapanadze - at 8:38 in the 'Green Box' video demo:

"Some think that the device uses stray currents.
I would argue the opposite.
It is not of travelling fields and stray currents.
There is one thing, we take the energy from the environment.
The unit is assembled on the principle of Tesla."
OK. I'll take that as a tentative yes. Wishing you a safe journey.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 09, 2018, 01:47:28 AM
Theorizing is good, but if you can't demonstrate it on the bench it is only ideas.
Many seeming 'good ideas' and 'explanations' can quickly fall to pieces when put to a proper bench test.
I can testify to that. :)
the green box do'dar'dit is just a copy of the don smith device !    simple !  and so obvious!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 09, 2018, 04:06:12 PM
Hi Hoppy. Aye, that does seem to be a real possibility to consider with these setups.
Drilling down into this, Kapanadze mentioned that he was worried about demonstrating the Aqua 2 device during a thunderstorm. Thunderstorms are apparently quite common during the Summer months in Georgia. In an electrified and muggy atmosphere, a long aeriel wire might well produce a reasonably good charge to storage caps, which in turn could deliver a fairly steady arc across a carefully adjusted spark gap. It has been suggested that the spark gap is just eye candy but maybe the spark is an essential requirement and important clue to the operation of all Kapanadze's devices.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 09, 2018, 06:39:22 PM
Hi Hoppy. I know your idea is that maybe Kapanadze uses an overhead antenna wire
of some sort, similar to what T. Henry Moray apparently did, but it really seems he doesn't. Even if you only look
at the 'green box' demo, it seems unlikely to me no one would have noticed Kapanadze or one of his helpers
trying to hook an extra wire from somewhere into the green box, when others attending were standing all around
watching closely for any attempts at tricks.  In other demos like the aquarium II demo, it was the same sort
of situation where people could inspect very closely for any external hidden wires. I personally think it is unlikely anyway.

If you have lightning strikes nearby, and you have wires connecting to the ground, it can potentially cause a surge/spike 
to travel up a ground wire, so that may possibly be what Kapanadze was concerned about.


Now lets look at at the device single HV coil L1 with low voltage pulser input L2, so how do you get a standing wave out of a Tesla coil ? think about it !
you need 2 coils one out of phase with the other or shove L2 into the middle of the L1 winding, that way you get a phase shift at the lower end and upper end
 you get current and the top you get voltage but L1 is a full wave crossing at L2 and L2 is 1/4 wave there is far more to it than that but talking to my
 self here is falling on deaf ears!

You might find this table usefull, I claim no originality for it and it is published free yet might be copy right but found no such claim.
Don Smith provides instructions for winding and using the type of air-core coils needed for a Tesla Coil.  He says:
1.
 Decide a frequency and bear in mind, the economy of the size of construction selected.  The factors are:
(a) Use radio frequency (above 20 kHz).
(b)  Use  natural  frequency,  i.e.  match  the  coil  wire  length  to  the  frequency  -  coils  have  both  capacitance  and 
inductance.
(c) Make the wire length either one qu
arter, one half of the full wavelength.

For wire lengths in metres: 
If using one quarter wavelength, then divide 75.29 by the frequency in MHz.
If using one half wavelength, then divide 150.57 by the frequency in MHz.
If using the full wavelength, then divide 304.19 by the frequency in MHz.
2.
 Choose the number of turns to be used in the coil when winding it using the wire length just calculated.  The
number  of  turns  will  be  governed  by  the  diameter  of  the  tube  on  which  the  coil  is  to  be  wound.    Remember 
that  the  ratio  of  the  number  of  turns  in  the  "L  -  1"  and  "L  -  2"  coils,  controls  the  overall  output  voltage.    For 
example, if the voltage applied the large outer coil "L - 1" is 2,400 volts and L - 1 has ten turns, then each turn
of  L  -  1  will  have  240  volts  dropped  across  it.   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 10, 2018, 03:45:34 PM
I think the following bears repeating:

In one of Akula's early video demonstrations, Akula showed that his setup
could apparently self run and power one or more bulbs without an earth ground connection
to his device.

And here are a couple of Kapanadze quotes from his 'green box' video demo:

Kapanadze - at 8:38 in the 'green box' video demo:
"Some think that the device uses stray currents.
I would argue the opposite.
It is not of travelling fields and stray currents.
There is one thing, we take the energy from the environment.
The unit is assembled on the principle of Tesla."

Kapanadze - at 55:05: in the 'green box' video demo:
"Between us speaking, grounding it is not required.
Instead of grounding, it is necessary to use a small circuit."


I think it is something worth keeping in mind anyway. :)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 11, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
And that small circuit would provide the reverse polarity to the other. Then you a potential. Yes?
Or would a reverse node on a single wire produce the same.

Hi Thaelin. As Wesley also suggested previously, a 'virtual ground' of some type might work as well.
This could be a length of wire which is not connected directly to ground and which is tuned for resonance
at a desired frequency. The 'small circuit' might conceivably be an LC tuning circuit when connecting to a length of wire,
or car body, or airplane body, etc (virtual ground).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 11, 2018, 09:36:26 AM
The 'small circuit' might conceivably be an LC tuning circuit when connecting to a length of wire,
or car body, or airplane body, etc (virtual ground).
We see an old car parked in the roadside fairly close to the aerial wire in the green box video. The camera man pans to the roadside several times as if to direct attention to it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 11, 2018, 02:29:06 PM
Earlier Void was interested in the green box, you might be interested in this posting by whatsup
Try making heads or tails of the circuit  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 11, 2018, 08:12:35 PM
Guys,

Will there ever be a moment when discussion about the ground connection ends?
Does it realy make a different in understanding its MO?

In my opinion i find it more interesting to talk about the quotes from Ruslan K posted by Solar lab on the 7th of July.

Some of the highligts....

".. You make the magnetic field longitudinal (pushing) and transverse, creating a flow of motion!

 Hence Tesla pushes the current, or in other words, pushes or carries the magnetic field away from the pump by a longitudinal field.

 And now make a controlled Tesla! That is, interrupt the pushing of the current at a frequency below the pump. This is the current flow!


 You need to tune in and Tesla resonate ... To get a current.

Grenades do not need to be shaken.       Still do not know why and what they do.

You blink one layer long, the other a little shorter. All with one wire. A long coil pumps a magnetic field, a short one removes it.

if there is not enough voltage, do the docks from the converter.

But the output must be filtered by HF. Otherwise, your resonance will swim away"


Greetings

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 12, 2018, 06:01:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-M55XP3D4A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-M55XP3D4A)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 13, 2018, 04:30:28 PM
Just looking through on the net as you do, found this informative video, watch it before it disappears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26QqUKoQpO4
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 14, 2018, 02:56:27 AM
I think you should be looking at the katcher circuit a sine wave is no good you need a verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry narrrrrrrrrrrow pulse to
trigger it but voltage at the top is out of phase with the current your driving it with !
So what are you doing about that little problem ?
That's what you need to sort out, don't forget it's tuning !

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: GeoFusion on July 14, 2018, 06:27:33 AM
Hi All :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i889P5nOwhg

Much respect for this gentleman 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: GeoFusion on July 14, 2018, 07:23:23 AM
Apecore:
For what Ruslan is doing with his experiments on grenades and more, it's all real.
Having to thank him for his exposure of what he did and all the variants of setups...
 The experiences what I went thru  and still am, just know now where to look at past months
  are those short And "SHARP'' pulses, they are very necessary
in the operation and of course the necessary amount of input voltage as well to reach ionization.
Kacher can work but oscillations have to be disrupted at each pulse. Complete Sinus output wont do it.

I view the Grenade as a HF resonating capacitor receiver, a coil with very low inductance and so there is more to it.
My last observation, on 24V dc input was beautiful observing output,
yet it needed more ionization, more voltage at input.
As indicated on the Akula and Sergey schematics.
Akula indicated voltages around 30 to 60V DC.
Sergey Indicated voltages around between 0 - 140V DC.
and so there are more guys that have done it, secret is how you operate the Tesla coil and the receiver.

Think ;)...

It is all about the Tesla coil ( HV HF sharp impulse coil) Dally's method is another way but the same.
 Tesla coil in this system IS the heart of the system creating the massive output properly tuned.

Proper Ionization ( the harvest ) + the right capacitance + Resonance

 
Wesley, nice to open this thread for updates :) keep it up.
we need also bit of everything.
 

Cheerz all ~
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 15, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
Wesley have a look at this

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/carr3.htm
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 16, 2018, 01:52:46 AM
Generating energy is easy to measure and verify and fear of stealing a secret is a poor excuse because such device would be quite complex and we all know why.

Hi PolaczekCebulaczek. I disagree that fear of the secret being stolen is a poor excuse.
For those people trying to make big money from these devices, that would of course be a big concern for them,
so they would definitely not be willing to show all details openly, if that is their motive. 

Actually, based on what we have all seen, these devices are not really very complicated, circuit wise,
so it should not be so very hard for people to figure out the general principle behind them, if a few
things were not kept hidden. However, since people do not understand the concept behind them yet,
they have been stumped so far, even though the devices are not that complicated.

Actually I think the concept has been staring people in the face for many years now, but people missed
it because they just can't understand why it would work. It seems the 'secret' may be out before
too much longer however, so I expect people will then see that it has been staring them in the face for
several years already, but people just missed a couple of things, which may not be so complicated at all.

Why it works from a physics standpoint will likely still be a mystery for quite some time to come however.
Things are not 'supposed' to work that way. This is the reason I think that many people have been
stumped so far, and many others insist it must be fake. If they think it just can't work that way, they
may well not think to try it that way. :)

So, it seems the device construction itself is not overly complicated for anyone with some knowledge of electronics,
but the explanation of why it actually works will have to be left to the propeller-head physicists to mull and argue
over, maybe for many years to come... :)


P.S.

Anyways, I do have a respect for Wesley, I found his channel/research entertaining and I do like his work on NMR and Coleman, He possesses a lot of knowledge, has a real lab ( that I can only dream of) and he even survived WTC attack lol, so lots of potential there. I do believe in "some form of" cheap or even free energy (is a black hole not a OU device?) this is driven by HOPE because mankind needs this stuff to survive and the statement "Everything that can be invented has been invented." does not convinces me, universe has much more to offer.There is no reason to be rude, every opinion on this topic is needed in order to find the truth that is out there, somewhere and its aint easy.

I think Wesley has been doing a great job in sharing information on these type of devices for many years now,
and I am convinced his motivations are good. Although Wesley has a background in science, I think that
Wesley is not formally trained in electronics or electrical engineering, so it is understandable that he may not
be able to understand all the ins and outs of the electronics of these type of devices, so I think people should cut
him some slack. He has been doing the best he can. :)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: GeoFusion on July 16, 2018, 06:09:43 AM
PolaczekCebulaczek, and all

How should I enlighten on this...

dont' discard it..
Resonance plays a very important  role on energy conversion devices but is not what brings that additional
external energy into the system(s).

That  what brings that extra energy that we want to know about, where it comes from and how to use it...
 comes from our SURROUNDINGS.  How?
You will need HV IMPULSE, SHORT BURST, Continuous. simple Kacher wont do this on it's own.
Excitation of the particles.... they are in our space and everywhere.
The receiver coil must resonate with the HV impulse module ( coil ) to able to harvest that what comes
and collects 100% of the energy. Here is where Freq management is important, it will very for everyone.
its like having a radio station and try to tune your radio receiver to the transmitting signal.

Imagine A field being generated with HV and having to Collapse it abruptly right after and forcefully,
that is one way to create this condition.

This energy we could also view it electrostatic since it EMPs everything as well.
This is what charges the caps right away and fast.  Ionizing.
  by modulating that signal coming in it can be amplified with a secondary circuit.

"""LIGHTNING""", the discharge, The Ionosphere where many of the charges are flowing.. 
is our example of where this energy is coming from and it is abundant and infinite...
filling our planet and outer space is totally seeded by this.

Just need to know how to activate/excite these charges and make them usable.

Tesla coil needs to operate as HV Spike discharge device,
 imagine like a Knife wave with a sharp drop to kill the oscillations
and repeat. as exmaple. It's this collapsing field which is making this exciting condition
It can be done with any other setups as well as long as it does this.
 
Vasmus was one who did it also,  the relay helped well and his modulation circuit.
Ruslan did tell some years ago on a russian forum what it was when he was new to this,
he did say it is all about Tesla coil, the main ingredient.

So there are many others who had shown but did little or nothing on Knowledge.....

Cheerz~
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: GeoFusion on July 16, 2018, 06:20:17 AM
Hi Wesley,
 https://youtu.be/UXWw7TCcS_A?t=607 (https://youtu.be/UXWw7TCcS_A?t=607)

Cheerz~
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 16, 2018, 09:12:33 AM
Not ions but electrons which are here but are "dormant till cycled" like Don Smith said. I still cannot understand how Don was able to  present so much correct information with so much mess around. You can re-watch his videos a catch some elements on schematics which he never explained but they are here. Look for example at secondary - how he showed it on actual devices and how it was represented on schematics.


It's incorrect to think that all such devices are made by people at garage. Look what happened to Barbosa & Leal... The energy source is one, quite complicated in fact with direct connection to Sun. All you have to do is connect all dots , all tips from inventors from all times...it was enough for Barbosa & Leal to make devices producing COP=100 but they made a mistake when presenting device powered from power grid.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 16, 2018, 08:44:45 PM
Hi I my self got so fed up with all the BS on the subject I made a test rig for experimentation with
a fast NE555 and a MOS-FET current driver.

I first wound a miniature coil wit about 600 turns on it for L1 and L2
just had 2 or 3 turns it was quite good at that and would illuminate a LED 5Watt display as a load,

I also wound a bigger coil to play with a few 100 turns for L1 and L2 was 1/8th wave and tuned it to
the winding wave length with far better results
I used a 'c' across L2 secondary winding, wire length is critical for this device.

Here is the LF test rig I used

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 16, 2018, 11:15:48 PM
Here in Russian is the "RUSLAN K." "mindset" of why he is the way he is.. looks like he is afraid of the collapse of the World system as he sees it...

This is a conversation with Polish guy.. Every one will just have to translate too him self, as Russian is hard to do a proper cut and paste google translate.. Sorry for that..

Acca...

 Ruslan K 7 months ago
Для того чтобы этот аппарат запустить и он полноценно работал, прежде всего надо понять как работает электромагнитная волна. Затем разобраться с катушками… Каждый делает ошибку огромнейшую не понимаю как работает эта катушка. Мотаю не понимает вообще сути процессов и как это работает…! Есть ещё один товарищ сталкер который лечит мозги всем не понимает также ничего, я абсолютно ничего не сделав! Ни одного готового образца он не показал !!! Зато Болтунов развелось целая куча, никто не хочет думать головой а только одни оскорбления. Поэтому я и перестал всем рассказывать что и как…! Это ваша ошибка многих кто зубами скрипит и гонит, тем более оскорбляет. Поэты причине вы ничего не знаете будете дальше скрипеть зубами! А это очень просто всё сделать…! Надо только мозг включить
Walery Makarewicz 4 months ago
Руслан, ты прям как Капанадзе становишься. Всё намеки да коммерческая тайна. Че вы понять не можете что нужна инструкция по сборке и НАСТРОЙКЕ. У тебя получилось сделать самозапит. У Сталкера хорошо получается обьяснять материал. Ну так начните сотрудничать между собой - обьясни все Сталкеру, может у него получиться обьяснить все народу. Ведь большинство пользователей и так не будут понимать как работает генератор, а производить и продавать его массово просто не дадут. По-этому ни денег ни широкой славы затаиванием СЕ не добьетесь. Посмотрите на Н. Теслу - ему закрыли рот, обрезали финансирование, а потом забыли...
Ruslan K 4 months ago
Walery Makarewicz не не ...погоди ! Я не буду никаких инструкций писать . Эта вся херабора настолько проста что дальше некуда. Но если вы инженер, занимаетесь экспериментами и хорошо знаете что такое электроника и как движется ток . Что такое волна и как она себя ведёт в катушке, этот аппарат вам по силам !!! Если вы ждёте подробных инструкций... увы ! Нет и ещё раз нет. Это всё равно что дать обезьяне автомат .
Walery Makarewicz 4 months ago
Может и так, но по моему атомные электростанции, войны за нефть, голод и т.п. - вот это автоматы похлеще ... И все-таки без схем, инструкции настройки, инструкции безопасности это так и останется "гаражной" технологией. Капанадзе сам говорил, что он даже Саакашвили установку показывал и что? и ничего, ... официальным властям это просто невыгодно. Они бояться потерять контроль над счетчиками, власть и деньги. Ну ничего, остается надеятся что однажды такой как Ацюковский Владимир Акимович (спец по эфиродинамике http://www.atsuk.dart.ru) напишет книгу и выложит в открытый доступ.
Ruslan K 4 months ago
Вы странный человек ! Никто ничего не выложит. будет катастрофа !!! Вы обрушите систему.
Walery Makarewicz 4 months ago
Какую систему? Систему, которая стоит на нефти, загрязняет и уничтожает природу, убивает сотни тысяч людей? так она и сама скоро рухнет. Будет безработица? Так уже сейчас роботы заменяют людей, по-этому проводят соцэксперименты по минимальному доходу, который выплачивают просто так - ни за что. Война? А разве сейчас мир на Земле? Сейчас в мире насчитывается почти четыре десятка вооруженных конфликтов и войн. БТГ это только одна из технологий, которые возникнут благодаря теории эфира. Просто возникнет новая социальная система, как когда-то возникали новые системы с открытием колеса, парового двигателя, электричества и т.д.
Ruslan K 4 months ago
давайте не будем писать глупости ! Человек , это алчное создание . Я сейчас выложу подробности и начнётся бардак . И сразу же всё запретят. Потому что начнут продавать гаражные мастера это всё в массы. Причём рукожопые мастера , а таких тут пруд пруди. Это будет такая жопа, что пострадают простые люди. Нельзя так давать просто человеку с корыстными целями. Успокойтесь ! Я лично сам с 2013 года ночами не спал,занимаясь этим всем. И как любой другой, ценю свой труд. Потому подсказываю как могу,но подробно разжевать это будет слишком не просто и к тому же я сказал что не всем это должно попасть в руки !!! Не всем !!!
Walery Makarewicz 4 months ago
Таки да, наверное Вы правы - человек это алчное создание. Тогда появляется вопрос - сейчас под воздействием Вашей алчности, не уводят ли Ваши подсказки на ложный путь близких к открытию искателей СЕ? Ведь теперь они по логике алчности рассматриваются как конкуренты? Ну да ладно, на нет и суда нет. Приятно было пообщаться с создателем БТГ. Удачи!
 Ruslan K 4 months ago
Я не занимаюсь уведением в сторону ! Я хочу чтобы инженеры начали головой соображать, а типа "радиолюбители " (Деньга - любители) вредители отделились скрепя зубами. Вот что я хочу ! Пока на всех видео что я вижу и читаю тексты...Всё тупик и глупо ! Люди не понимают что такое генератор переменного тока. Не понимают и не хотят . Что я могу сделать ? Вот давайте к делу сейчас все.... Допустим ! Ответе мне на вопрос : Что такое Тесла и для чего она нужна в установке ?
 Yury 38 4 months ago
Ruslan K Руслан привет!, тэслой в этой установке мы создаём свободные насители зарядов ,а бифом утилизируем в колебательном процессе;)
Ruslan K 4 months ago
Ответ не верный ! Я вам про воду говорил ? Предметы на воде становятся легче ? Включайте соображалку . Магнитное поле вращающееся в индукционке ничего не напоминает ?
Yury 38 4 months ago
Ruslan K ок как писал Тэсла " эфир нужно охладить, создать зону малой энергии ,тем самым эфир сам потечёт "к центру его трансформатора , примерно так?, я в опыте обнаружил влияние на колебательный контур от индуктора каторый просто качал транзистором, на ослике появилась ам МОДУЛЯЦИЯ, нагрузка загорелась ярче! Это оно?
йожын збажын 3 months ago
Walery Makarewicz он не становится, это один и тот-же человек, если бы эта хрень работала бы он бы сам подробную схему сборки выложил, а раз не вылодил и не запитал от этой зрени сварочник жто значит что все это фейк обычный.
саня клерк 1 month ago
НЕТ ! свободные носители зарядов ( это нам выполняет индуктор - а стоячая волна - ох как любит этот индуктор ))))) и не какой утилизации не происходит ( иначе это гибель для прекрасного момента ) просто --- используем работу этой красоты !!!! чем мог - чем мог !!!!!!
 
саня клерк 1 month ago (edited)
как писал Тэсла " эфир нужно охладить, создать зону малой энергии ,тем самым эфир сам потечёт "к центру его трансформатора , !!! ДА!!ДА!!! ИМЕННО ТАК !!!! ---- но вот есть одна закавыка ( только когда вы - соберёте дэвайс и потом разберётесь как это работает --- вот тогда вам будет ясен смысл вот этих слов (нужно создать зону малой энергии ,тем самым эфир сам потечёт "к центру его трансформатора)))))))) единственное что могу от себя добавить (зона малой энергии - это нашей современностью будет непонято ) !!! про цитирую нашим пониманием - дней наших ( активный вакуумный ноль или зона минус 1. с + 1 НАПРОТИВ или вакуумная исходная точка или (+0-) или ЭНЕРГЕТИЧЕСКИЙ ВАКУУМ двух полярностей ! эпицентр вакуума !!! намекаю как могу !!! зона дефицита энергии или чем мог - чем - мог !!! это похожее как у нас - у людей все и всё на приделе ( но ) взрыва не будет ! построили границу и обмен дефицитом
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on July 18, 2018, 07:49:02 PM
the concerns  about giving away a FE device to just everybody  are for sure  something that has to be thougth.
How ever  here is something that relates to the benchwork view. In this video the experimenter is showing  something verry important. ( without knowing ..and no its not about hh0 gas,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM

i know it sound dumb .. but look the vid verry close

all the best JoJo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 19, 2018, 01:34:44 PM
Onepower post is applicable as "the understanding of the principle of operation is still NOT proven in THEORY"... of KAPANADZE.. device... Wesley ...

Onepower has valid point as I still DO NOT understand how the bloody Kapanadze device still works in THEORY ...

I have built it and almost burned down my garage with high voltage.. I cannot and will NOT build another till the principle will be worked out as to the safety of such a unit.. as it is also a beta generator, I have proof.. The iron ferrite core sings a very high pitch oscillations like ultrasonic when it goes beta. .. So sorry as I am now suspecting this Kapagen, Kapanadze, Ruslan etc.

I like the post by Onepower and here is the US army crest in search of the "Truth" .. and some photos core of my Kapanadze beta core.. from long ago..

Acca..


in the clip below a ferrite core is in needed to operate the Kapanadze device..
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Sc9T4xH_o&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Sc9T4xH_o&feature=share)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNheB3ZJ1h4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNheB3ZJ1h4)
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 19, 2018, 02:30:46 PM
Onepower post is applicable as "the understanding of the principle of operation is still NOT proven in THEORY"... of KAPANADZE.. device... Wesley ...

Onepower has valid point as I still DO NOT understand how the bloody Kapanadze device still works in THEORY ...

I have built it and almost burned down my garage with high voltage.. I cannot and will NOT build another till the principle will be worked out as to the safety of such a unit.. as it is also a beta generator, I have proof.. The iron ferrite core sings a very high pitch oscillations like ultrasonic when it goes beta. .. So sorry as I am now suspecting this Kapagen, Kapanadze, Ruslan etc.

I like the post by Onepower and here is the US army crest in search of the "Truth" .. and some photos core of my Kapanadze beta core.. from long ago..

Acca..


in the clip below a ferrite core is in needed to operate the Kapanadze device..
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Sc9T4xH_o&feature=share (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Sc9T4xH_o&feature=share)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNheB3ZJ1h4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNheB3ZJ1h4)
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Acca
The Search for truth is one thing but ignoring it when its found is another,and why do we need an aggressive 'military force' to find Americas idea of what the truth should be? one needs to remember 'Police and Army are political and therefor manipulated by the 'corporate political control' secret agenda' financed by brain washed programed taxpayers.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 19, 2018, 10:44:40 PM
Wesley
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It was not the case of looking like but looking  as required and  acting as expected.
That is how they could return their investment with profit.
And it was also  the wish of retiring CEO willing  to become  part of History  of world value and fulfill his own.

Therein lies the problem in my opinion. I was also expected to act as required... think about that?... act as required, as expected. As if to say you will act as I tell you to act because I also own you. No offense but that is basically the moment when I suggested they go fuck themselves. They can't afford me.

I find your comment about the CEO wanting to be a part of history familiar. It is strange isn't it?, a CEO who has done nothing of substance wanting to buy his way into the history books. To just sit on their ass in a three piece suit behind a desk manipulating people for profit and then just buy their way in. What is the going price nowadays?.

What I found is that we are all responsible adults in the room and all is well. Then... when the money boys don't get there way they get all red in the face and lose their shit like some 6 year old on a playground. It is fascinating to watch how a supposed adult can magically transform before your eyes. However we know they were never really credible were they?, there was that monster latent hidden under the surface who just came forth for all to see. You just have to know which buttons to push to see the real show... the real person.

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I think case you described is right but not applicable  mentioned by me above situation.

I apologize, I have a tendency to speak as if I am talking in the first person but imply a second or as a group from past experience. There are many middle men seeking inventors on the part of investors and I imagine there may be a handful who actually have something in the way of credibility and empathy.

In any case I have rambled on long enough, I'm going to take a break from the forums again... carry on with the show.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 20, 2018, 02:06:19 AM
Wesley
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It is valid  as much as it this unfortunate.
Tariel has no buyer but he had an offerer  based on business rules. And he blow it.
You must be on time  at the train station and if you late just 1 second, there is someone else  inside  the train.
You are just double loser.( lost the money and lost the time.)
In many cases

There is another way and solutions are why we are here is it not?.

The system is rigged, based on dependency and the easiest path however that is not the only path. If we know the operating principal we can cherry pick any outdated FE patent from the books, start building working units and then sell them on ebay for profit. We are now the boss and no middle men or investors are required. You see expired patents fall within the public domain, we are the public thus it is fair game for everyone everywhere.

Think about it... we make money so we win and if others want to copy our working devices and sell them we still win. The perspective is of course dependent on our intent... are we in it to corner the market at others expense or expand it for the benefit of all. You see this solution always comes full circle on itself and produces the desired result no matter which way the current flows. In my opinion either it is a real solution and it produces the desired effect or it's BS, it is what it is.

This is what I do Wesley... I analyse problems and find workable solutions. Why would we torment ourselves by doing what everyone else has done in the past despite the fact we know it cannot work?. What I propose is the fundamental premise of all FE concepts, we change the rules to produce a different result... the one we want. Is this so hard to understand?.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 20, 2018, 05:06:58 AM
In 2008 Tariel patent  application was denied and revoked by means of  qualification.
His application was assigned/ thrown into to group of patents  that belongs to  Perpetual Motion Machines.
Independently  recreated and providing  the same or similar performance devices based on corresponding  and filed patent application,  after the filing date are eligible as the prove of Tariel's patent.
Ways to prove it are by scientific evaluation or by means of proven existence in the form it was filed.

To bypass   any possible delay I suggested to Tariel to give it to the public.
By means of  grandfathering Tariel is entitled to  the full rights to that patent at no time .

Even if anyone of us present the device  in the form described by
Tariels application than Tariel's lawyers  free of charge to Tariel  will strip humanity from being able to use it without Tariel's acceptance.
Even if his application was revoked he has rights to reopen it and  he will get patent.
All and any form of profit made by anyone till that  time must be recovered on benefit of Tariel.
Well in some countries law does not allow to work back in time.
In such case prove of Tariel concept will be provided  by number of devices replicated.
Tariel or his family after his death will become the wealthiest people on the surface of the  earth.
Along with Mr Turk   the patent attorney who signed the contract with Tariel  for 50%  of future income if Tariel's  patent  will be issued at any time in the future .
He did so and that is why Tariel  got patent application without any expenses of his own.


Hi Wesley. It appears someone was trying to seriously con Kapanadze, if this is what they told him.
The content of Kapanadze's patent applications were so far off from even the basics of what is required in
a patent application that Kapanadze might just as well have submitted blank pieces of paper as his patent applications.

Patent applications have to contain sufficient detail that the patent application should be able to be
used as plans 'for anyone sufficiently skilled in the art' to build a working prototype, if the patent is for
some kind of device. We all know/suspect that at least some people/corporations may very likely intentionally leave out
some important details, or may put in a few purposely incorrect details in their patent applications to try to mislead
any potential competitors from getting their full 'secrets', but they would have to do this very subtly, otherwise if the patent
examiner suspected this they could disqualify the patent application.

In the case of Kapanadze's 'patent applications', they contain such incredibly vague block diagrams and vague descriptions that
no one can tell at all just what exactly it is that Kapanadze was supposed to be patenting. Some very vague arrangement of coils and some
other very vague circuits are alluded to for who know what exact purpose or function. It was so incredibly vague that the patent examiner must
have assumed the patent applications from Kapanadze were some kind of joke. ;D They are worthless to Kapanadze, and would/will
not legally protect him or his cosigners even from someone coming out with a seeming nearly identical device as Kapanadze has shown.
If someone advised Kapanadze that those completely vague and therefore completely useless patent applications he submitted
would somehow protect his legal rights, then the people advising him were either completely incompetent or complete and utter crooks.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 20, 2018, 11:35:14 AM
I feel that the system has been rigged at least since Tesla was working for Morgan and Westinghouse. When he started talking about wireless transfer of energy Morgan pulled his money out. Also I bet they realized that they have lotsa infrastructure in place and they make billions by pulling cable in the air across the country. It would all be scrapped if wireless transfer was possible.

I think the current electrical education system is lobbied and sponsored by the energy providers. They dictate what is in the books (and what is not) and they decide who gets research grants for research packages THEY provide. So you can't just say "I want to research free energy", because they will tell you that you get 150000$ to research improved mileage on a petrol engine. Then if you make the engine 8% more efficient they raise petrol price by 15%...

I still think the "answer" is very simple like everything in Nature. We need to think how come do not arrive at this answer? Limitless energy is there. Even scientists agree to this. Why would it be impossible to harness it then? I think the concept of Ether is just all the EM radiation that is more or less evenly spread in the universe. My take on this is that something was removed, hidden or just not talked about. It is not in any school books and it should be the ONLY thing in the school books. Voltage does not get the credit I think it needs. Frequency is said not to affect power. This is very peculiar to me. Like pull your nose once. Then pull your nose 35000 times per second. Do you still have a nose?

Something has been stripped from the knowledge passed onto us. That is why I am asking the stupid questions and trying my own ideas out. I do have a bachelor degree in electrical engineering, but I don't keep it on my wall or preach the UU gospel like some do.

It is obvious that the game is rigged if you just loo outside and compare what you see to the crap they print in books.

Free energy -> anti-gravity -> gtfo of Dodge and let the banks stay here with the illuminati

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 20, 2018, 01:40:38 PM
Belfor  can i ask your age ?  only you seam to be able to write stuff but not read it, only i have seen two or three
ways of creating very efficient energy saving secrets that have been disclosed in the past week alone.

It is not just yourself but others appear to suffer from the same problem, unless it's some one to produce a ready made device or kit your waiting for, witch just isn't going to happen, so get real and start reading and thinking out
side of the box. Then you can show Tinsel and the rest of us how it's actually done  snigger snigger!   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on July 20, 2018, 02:40:34 PM
Belfor  can i ask your age ?  only you seam to be able to write stuff but not read it, only i have seen two or three
ways of creating very efficient energy saving secrets that have been disclosed in the past week alone.

It is not just yourself but others appear to suffer from the same problem, unless it's some one to produce a ready made device or kit your waiting for, witch just isn't going to happen, so get real and start reading and thinking out
side of the box. Then you can show Tinsel and the rest of us how it's actually done  snigger snigger!

I am 44 years old. I have not seen any energy saving secrets that actually work, but then again I only have time to read some threads and not every message posted on this web site.

I do read mostly books between 1880 and 1920. It seems there were many ideas and bench tested stuff that you cannot find in newer books. I am thinking outside the box every day and I try to write all my ideas down, so I might try them out later. If you learn your stuff in school from a guy who also learned all of it from books, you will not discover anything new. If the establishment (energy companies) is affecting the school books then you got zero chance of finding anything new or hidden. You really need to think outside the box to find anything new. Just lie on your back and look at the stars. Write everything down and later toss out everything that does not work.

Or there is the penicillin way and you will fall on to the discovery. Accidents also provided us with neodymium magnets and god knows what else?

My daughter is 11 months and I have maybe 2 hours a week to do some actual bench stuff, if I'm at home. During summer that means no bench time.

All the evidence is there to prove that the energy is also there. The answer will pop up eventually. The Egyptians had some pretty advanced knowledge (or the people before them) and they lifted stones bigger than we can lift now. So they knew something and did not require kacher circuits to use them.

When I find it I will give it to you. You say nobody will make a kit that you can just start using. Why you think that? Money does not make you happy. Greed is the only reason why don't have the secret out yet. That is not only sad, but might end this planet before we have means to fly to other planets&moons

Finding the secret might not even be the biggest problem. If you got limitless energy then everybody has it. Do we wan't everybody to have it? They will use it as a weapon.
World economy and people's jobs are in danger. Economy will survive and people too, because they always have. Airplanes, zeppelins, trains, cars, nuclear power, electricity and factories all changed the economy and some horse carriage makers lost their jobs.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on July 20, 2018, 03:21:16 PM
Here is my comment:
We have  bunch of new guys, posting here.
And I started to respond to.. it was not smart.

I was telling  that at some point  activity  of some trolls can be deleted along with  their accounts.
please keep it in mind
I try to be friendly
Wesley

hmm..
as i'm one of the new guys  i can asure you my last intend would be trolling this subject.
how ever for the most time i simply follow the topic .Over the years i found it more fruitfull to proof some ideas on the bench in
verry smal steps . A few ideas here are verry close to what i was abled to test. I'm not the forum hero anyway so to me it be ok both ways  deletedore not.

have fun  JoJo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 20, 2018, 06:04:09 PM
Belfior thank you for your reply, Iwas wondering if you were a senior citizen and needed some pointers ect hope thats ok any way I'm pretty sure some of the basic useful youtube video's are on this tread and another
you found your self are of The old scientist youtube tread, regarding the questions your asking.
However there is so much spam it's getting dificult to find relevant stuff of interest.

Some of them were published by Wesley and very interesting and useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWD0Wy_UOEA

and this one too from Tin man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOGkKXD9ksQ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2018, 08:32:01 PM
Belfior -there is so much spam it's getting difficult to find relevant stuff of interest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyW4dR4cUQM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOGkKXD9ksQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOGkKXD9ksQ)
I do thank you for that
Videos are Marvelous
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on July 20, 2018, 10:50:32 PM
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 20, 2018, 11:13:06 PM
Quote from: Void on July 02, 2018, 06:01:45 AM (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg523213/#msg523213)
...in all the Kapanadze demos videos I have seen, Kapanadze appeared to use only one earth ground connection (at a time).

and

https://youtu.be/atlnVNy0IDE?t=169 (https://youtu.be/atlnVNy0IDE?t=169)
Here you have explanation about two grounds in Kapanadze patent application.
Can you comment on it
Hoppy, Void  and others?


I said about two grounds system as principal requirement  for Tariel Kapanadze device to work
Who is right  and who is wrong.?

Wesley
The patent shows one ground symbol, so I cannot construe from the schematic that there are in fact two ground connections. As previously commented, I do not see two ground connections connected to the device at any point in the green box video. However, I am open to the strong possibility that there is a concealled wire which may be the second ground. Alternatively, any concealled wire could have been connected to an aeriel wire.
The video you posted does not in my opinion show that the increased charging rate of the capacitor is necessarily the result of energy drawn from the ground.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2018, 11:58:49 PM
Please look here
https://youtu.be/atlnVNy0IDE?t=629 (https://youtu.be/atlnVNy0IDE?t=629)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 21, 2018, 04:05:31 AM
Please look here
https://youtu.be/atlnVNy0IDE?t=629
and than
look  at the picture
Wesley


Hi Wesley. I have spent many many hours running all kinds of experiments along these lines
over quite a few years now, and from what I saw from the Old Scientist's experiments shown,
I did not see anything that I would say gave an indication of anything very unusual going on.
His exact experimental setup was not clear to me however, so without knowing his exact
setup I can't really comment further on it.

I was not suggesting that having two separate earth grounds is not a viable way to go when
trying to achieve COP > 1, as Frank Prentice used at least two separate earth grounds and
claimed to have measured a COP of around 6.  I was just saying I did not see indications
that Kapanadze uses more than one earth ground connection. I am attaching a couple of drawings
from Kapandze's patent applications. They seem to depict only one single earth ground connection,
which is consistent with what we have seen in Kapanadze's video demos over the years. 

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: esaya on July 21, 2018, 06:25:35 AM
what you see in the patents you can't see it on the demo video,
what you see in the video demo you can't see it in the patents.

the first video (tin can) and first the patent is the simplest, i think Ruslan has been succesfully conecting the dot.Ruslan last  video (16 watt) look very similar to Kapanadze tin can video.
similar material, inverter 12 v dc to 220v ac,power suply 220v ac to 12 v dc ,coil wound look similar.


Ruslan : DO NOT PURSUE THE POWER (get the 220v ac from inverter?),TESLA CURRENT (with controlled Tesla),GROUND FROM EARTH

So guys! I'll tell you all easier. If you want something to collect, do not pursue the " POWER ". So the pumping is simple without resonance. Tupa is a magnetic alternating field! Next ... Position the coils so that one coil with its own field does not stack with the other. That is, the shift must be done. Otherwise OLED will interfere! Now we remember Tesla and when we bring to her a sheet connected through a light bulb to the ground ... What do we observe? The answer is correct! Light bulb shine :) This current you need! Now, by inducing this all on your reel, the end of which is grounded ... You make the magnetic field longitudinal (pushing) and transverse, creating a flow of motion! I told you that the generator of BTG works like a normal generator. Hence Tesla pushes the current, or in other words, pushes or carries the magnetic field away from the pump by a longitudinal field. There is no OEDF! Nothing hinders and there is no resistance either! How are we in the classics? Currents on the sides of the coil?! Here! Boca then do not match :)
 And now make a controlled Tesla! That is, interrupt the pushing of the current at a frequency below the pump. This is the current flow! Well guess what, finally, damn ....
 How much can you say that?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 21, 2018, 10:05:21 AM
Wesley,

Like the green box device, the Aqua 2 device appears to power a heavy load with a single ground wire so how does the dual physical ground wire theory add up to what we see in any of Kapanadze's videos?

If these devices are genuine, then the principle is very likely very simple as Kapanadze claims. The biggest clue in my opinion is that Kapanadze avoids running these devices in stormy weather, which suggests that there is a concealled connection to an aeriel wire, assuming the devices are not faked. I'm trying hard to join the dots.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 21, 2018, 11:04:54 AM
Wesley,

Like the green box device, the Aqua 2 device appears to power a heavy load with a single ground wire so how does the dual physical ground wire theory add up to what we see in any of Kapanadze's videos?

If these devices are genuine, then the principle is very likely very simple as Kapanadze claims. The biggest clue in my opinion is that Kapanadze avoids running these devices in stormy weather, which suggests that there is a concealled connection to an aeriel wire, assuming the devices are not faked. I'm trying hard to join the dots.
Hoppy the answer to your question is easy ! answer you haven't done your home work with watching the old scientist video's !
the single earth is a mono polar Tesla coil, Also do you remember some 2 years ago Nelson talking about the very same coil
wasting energy? you can also make a coil with out the harmonics. My advice to you is watch them while you can they are saying (catch us if you can) sounds like a pop group from the 60s  ;D

P S two earths or none is a bipolar! reminds me of my psychology OU coarse I did,  :o You say he doesn't run the device in a thunderstorm  ;D :D a very verrrrrry wise man, surely you can work that out for your self!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 21, 2018, 12:53:27 PM
Hi Alien,
I've watched most of his videos but cannot recall where he has demonstrated operation without a conventional power supply in a self-running mode. You continually write as if you have the 'knowledge' and proven the operating principle of the Kapanadze devices, by self-running your own device(s). Can you show any evidence of your achievement? As you are well aware there are many that can talk the talk.... ;)
Hoppy no I can't and I don't have the test equipment to develop such a device, did you notice the HF SG the Ols Sci was using
I only have a 5 MHZ device to get any where you need a 100mhz device with PW  impulse drive.

Where are you perhaps we could pull resources ?  you talk about the green box that device would be one of the easiest to play with and perhaps get going to prove one way or the other.

On the other hand tin mans device does prove the point quite well.

Ove course you could wind a Tesla coil 1Mtr long and work out the wire length for 100khz and tune it to that frequency to prove the point and then use a ferrox core transformer to collect it all. but the trick is done around the Tesla coil.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 21, 2018, 01:08:03 PM
Hoppy no I can't and I don't have the test equipment to develop such a device, did you notice the HF SG the Ols Sci was using
I only have a 5 MHZ device to get any where you need a 100mhz device with PW  impulse drive.

Where are you perhaps we could pull resources ?  you talk about the green box that device would be one of the easiest to play with and perhaps get going to prove one way or the other.

On the other hand tin mans device does prove the point quite well.

AG
Do really think that Kapanadze is using a 100Mhz device with PW impulse drive??  ??? What point do you think Tinman's device proves?
Without some reliable info on what is in the green box, pulling resources without some 'inside info', would be rather pointless in my opinion.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 21, 2018, 01:17:21 PM
Do really think that Kapanadze is using a 100Mhz device with PW impulse drive??  ??? What point do you think Tinman's device proves?
well the spark gap will send harmonics into the Ghz range ! and the green box coil has a 1/8 wave on that top copper tube
thats got to be at least 10 to 20 mhz, (that's how it works) ( but let's suppose he tiunes one of the layers 0.5uh with 47nf cap it's res would still be in the 2mh range and if you were buying a SG would you bother buying a SG with a top range
less than 100 to 300 Mz ? I wouldn't.

Your asking me stuff that's been on this tread in the last few pages, I wouldn't mind so much if you had read it! and knew how stuff
worked or supposedly is reported to work.

OK here is a test for you what significant difference  would adding an earth to a mono pole Tesla coil make ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 21, 2018, 04:51:36 PM
Well...I think Kapanadze device works similar to Steven Mark, the principle seems the same but the realization is much safer because of many obstacles it cannot run-away except for a slight 1-2 seconds delay after disconnecting the power source.  :P  So I guess he is using the same method as Henry Moray - storing energy in capacitor and using kind of LC circuit where capacitor  is gradually charged by radiant energy instead of power source. Of course the power output is diminished by a large factor also....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 22, 2018, 12:25:35 AM
Well...I think Kapanadze device works similar to Steven Mark, the principle seems the same but the realization is much safer because of many obstacles it cannot run-away except for a slight 1-2 seconds delay after disconnecting the power source.  :P  So I guess he is using the same method as Henry Moray - storing energy in capacitor and using kind of LC circuit where capacitor  is gradually charged by radiant energy instead of power source. Of course the power output is diminished by a large factor also....

Forest,

Right it is ( as i believe) based all on the same fundamentals.

For the power part as you say the radiant energy is stored in a cap......., let me say it this way..... and i hope we get it more clear in possible explanations and facts.

Lets start simple,....i like that...
When you puls a coil...  EMF is generated which is coming from the stored energy in the coil.
I would say this energy comes from the radiant energy present in the surrounding of this coil.
With 12V/  0.2A pulsing a coil, i can charge a cap with 1000V,... needing a number of puls chargings.... so maybe this energy needs to be higher in the coils surrounding?


The HV from the kacher or from a separate source ..... is increasing the EMF charging.... or not?
With result that less pulses are needed to charge the same cap to 1000V.
So is this the deal we are trying to accomplish?


in my opinion there is no difference either we are talking about Kapanadze or other related setups..... they all use HV as a energy source and do create a sharp puls to activate a EMF proces in the "output" coil.
The only problem we have is that we can't get it working or maybe in  small way

So this mechanisme needs to be better in place....  the way how this has to be done in order to get significant EMF is still one of the secret.

There are some relations or combinations in the setup which could be critical for this mayor effect;

1- Timing of the puls/ SG is not the missing link,...  many of us have made lots of pulsing boards/ electronics in order to shift this puls.
2- Frequenty relation HV and resonance of the output coil,....is also something most of us has achieved in there testsetup.... but no significant effect yet...
3- Combination of (1) and (2)... Also here i would assume it is a logical next step after having the setup on the bench...... many of us have tried..
4-  Particular output coil/ grenade configuration,.... here could be some secrets being hidden,....  altough the configurations available on the internet could be false..  so this could lead to a dead end on the bench.
5-  (4) could become a endless story if it is realy critical,...  we don t know which criteria yet'is used............ so (1), (2) and (4) hitting the jackpot has a low change
6- Output coil/ grenade wirelength versus (2) seems likely Short wave radio thechnique,..  this is also something what likes to be difficult and not easy to achieve..
This shortwave approach also implicates the whole setup and all its coils,....which is very critical... and thus again difficult to combine with (4) and/ or (2) etc.


Looking at Geo 's results....  maybe he has accomplished one of mentioned combination?  Would be good to know if Geo tried a different modified grenade also and see if he gets same results?
At least to see if it is to determind what is related of the mentioned items.

Greetings

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 22, 2018, 01:49:21 AM
Apcore  some how I'm not so sure it's the grenate, lets look at the green box. Any one played with that ?

pay attention to wire length to keep in resonance notice width of gap use SG and scope to tune first layer
with tune cap for max amplitude at around 500khz - 200khz

let us know how any one gets on.

winding coil a few pages back will do for playing with testing.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on July 22, 2018, 06:19:32 AM
I wrote this befor  but ok let's try again.

kapadnaze as well as others made a great deal about  groundig in almost all demos they had a relativly new groundpoint.
bury a car radiator and what not .

ask your self how would you improvise a god ground ?

bury a car radiator ore driving an long copper ore zinked steel rod outside in the ground ? looking for a spot where you have moist earth? yes all fine .. they did this.

what else you need ?
a suficiente wire diameter at least 6mm diameter ore more and best be fine multistrandet . kepp the wire as short as you can

what did they? .. the ground point was allways like 10meters away from the demo unit away often the wire was way longer ... and they always used cable that looks like they stole it from grandma's old vakuumcleaner.

have fun
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 22, 2018, 09:26:30 AM
I wrote this befor  but ok let's try again.

kapadnaze as well as others made a great deal about  groundig in almost all demos they had a relativly new groundpoint.
bury a car radiator and what not .

ask your self how would you improvise a god ground ?

bury a car radiator ore driving an long copper ore zincked steel rod outside in the ground ? looking for a spot where you have moist earth? yes all fine .. they did this.

what else you need ?
a sufficient wire diameter at least 6mm diameter ore more and best be fine multi-stranded . keep the wire as short as you can

what did they? .. the ground point was always like 10meters away from the demo unit away often the wire was way longer ... and they always used cable that looks like they stole it from grandma's old vacuum cleaner.

have fun
Isn't the wire length part of the wave length !n meters ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 22, 2018, 10:01:16 AM
Auto self-tuning resonant circuit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaPvdN75dl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 22, 2018, 02:03:02 PM
Auto self-tuning resonant circuit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaPvdN75dl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE
Tinsel Hi can you tell me what label the scmitt-trigger inverter chip is please and what
iC2A and IC2B actually do and connect as IC2C looks as if it would control the width. It might be
of interest that a 4093 would be easyer to get hold of in the junk box and common the 2 inuts or
just common one input to +ve line.

Also some guys might find your circuit useful for driving a Tesla coil under Test if a diode is added
between the MosFet and coil and a voltage limiter between MosFet and drain and ground.

Some kind of current limit feedback might be useful under fault conditions.

Many thanks  ;D

PS Patric Kelly conference on alternative FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXMZKqBP90
AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 23, 2018, 07:45:22 AM
Tinsel Hi can you tell me what label the scmitt-trigger inverter chip is please and what
iC2A and IC2B actually do and connect as IC2C looks as if it would control the width. It might be
of interest that a 4093 would be easyer to get hold of in the junk box and common the 2 inuts or
just common one input to +ve line.

Also some guys might find your circuit useful for driving a Tesla coil under Test if a diode is added
between the MosFet and coil and a voltage limiter between MosFet and drain and ground.

Some kind of current limit feedback might be useful under fault conditions.

Many thanks  ;D

PS Patric Kelly conference on alternative FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXMZKqBP90 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WXMZKqBP90)
AG
You must be talking about a different circuit than what I showed in those two video clips. The autoresonating circuit of TKoil X is very simple.

If you are talking about some of the other circuits others have listed above, I can explain the purpose of the chips if you specify exactly which diagram you mean.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 23, 2018, 08:30:58 AM
Information  about FE device based on real example of it is available AS I PROMISED TO YOU.
I'm working on  real data .
I will start from one source first
The second source  independent from the first one and not related to the first one , is not yet  going to be discussed.
It is a lot of work and not only that.
Wesley
Thanks for that Wesley. Its about time some reliable info was published, especially for those, like me, still stuck in the box.  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 23, 2018, 10:07:59 AM
You must be talking about a different circuit than what I showed in those two video clips. The autoresonating circuit of TKoil X is very simple.

If you are talking about some of the other circuits others have listed above, I can explain the purpose of the chips if you specify exactly which diagram you mean.
Err um  This one! if you could

many thanks
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 23, 2018, 10:57:06 AM
The CD4046 is configured as a voltage-controlled oscillator. The potentiometer P1 controls the voltage input to Pin 9 of this VCO and thus controls its frequency. The oscillator produces an approximately square pulse train, coming out at Pin 4. The components surrounding the Schmitt trigger inverter stage IC2C, comprising the pot P2 and the cap and resistors, form a pulse-shortening network that transforms the more or less squareish output of the VCO into shorter pulses whose width is controlled by P2. The output of the pulse shortener is fed to the TC4420 mosfet driver chip (which also has Schmitt trigger input) which then drives the mosfet's Gate. The mosfet is in a low-side switch arrangement, switching current from the +12 volt supply rail through the transformer primary TR1. Two more stages of the IC2 are used to inhibit or disinhibit the VCO, depending on which of the two gates is getting a +12 volt input or is grounded out. This section could be connected to another oscillator to provide chopping or pulsing of the main VCO signal.
The Schmitt trigger inverter (IC2) could be any of a number of different part numbers. Generally there are 6 gates per chip, so in this circuit 3 are unused. It is good practice to tie the inputs of unused gates to ground or Vcc.

What you are showing is known as the Les Banki Nano-Pulser. The circuit I used in the exact video where you saw it is a variation on this circuit. This is not an auto-resonant circuit as it stands but could be "transformed" into one (no pun intended).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 23, 2018, 01:13:43 PM
I would like a few of those old vacuum cleaners for the cable! You were looking at some quality cable in the video!
I'm using 4mil to experiment I used 1/4 wave lemgth but 1/2 wave was much better but some 6mi multi strand like welding cable when it's working
I don't get the impression from the green box build and layout that the ground wire lengths are critical but as Alien points out the SG tuning to include a given ground wire length may be.
I think you might find it is!
I would like a few of those old vacuum cleaners for the cable! You were looking at some quality cable in the video!
More to the point, what do you think we need to replicate the green box, other than the box?
A HV PSU tuned to the selected low end frequency. (don't get too complacent or you end up with leaks in the system).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 23, 2018, 01:42:34 PM
The CD4046 is configured as a voltage-controlled oscillator. The potentiometer P1 controls the voltage input to Pin 9 of this VCO

What you are showing is known as the Les Banki Nano-Pulser. The circuit I used in the exact video where you saw it is a variation on this circuit. This is not an auto-resonant circuit as it stands but could be "transformed" into one (no pun intended).
Hi sorry to be a pain, but have you a link to the Banki reference please ?

Also i note http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2578.msg49522#msg49522
your notes on the nano pulse PSU any chance of any information on that item and or pointers please.

Regards AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 24, 2018, 04:47:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo&feature=youtu.be
This is first video
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 06:09:54 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo&feature=youtu.be
This is first video

Thx Wesley

Soo its time to dust off my granade coils and kachers? because I gave up on this and lost all hope.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 10:22:04 AM
Sergey Panov channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUVybUtIdAo
Don't watch it unless you want to see spoilers in russian, next episode of wesley's news is coming soon!

aether22 Thanks for pictures, now i can see things better.

In case of Hendershot, I dont see any aether stuff, just a tricky yet consistent with electromagnetic theory method of extracting/converting energy from "slowly rotating big ball" and its weak magnetic field to "fast rotating small ball" with strong magnetic field, something like a transformer or a two small-big gear system analogy. It could work because of two factors; the fact that electromagnetism is relativistic and difference between true-geographic north and magnetic north (because of this earth mag field is rotating with earth, in faraday disk its not). Device needs tuning, very specific angles of magnetic field's are needed to make this work ( hendershot compass) and finally when earth mag field answers, the answer is in form of HF vibrating earth magnetic field, for that honeycomb coil is the best, its HF coil that can pick up wide spectrum of frequencies.Its not easy for me to explain this due to language barrier however right now I'm building a "proof of concept" a simulation where my earth is a weak slow magnet interacting with other things, I want to simulate the effect first to see if my theory is correct.They key is hendershot compass that I had replicated (I think i did), looking at hendershot solid state device wont tell you much however the magnet is there.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 24, 2018, 10:40:00 AM
Wesley,

Thanks for your part 1 video. One observation about the ground wire length being a critical factor. When Kapanadze swapped over from the radiator to the water pipe ground in the green box video, the length was very much shorter and yet the device still functioned to light the lamps. Maybe Kapanadze's comment about his device having auto resonant tuning accounted for this.
There was no info about loop-back in the Ruslan circuit explanatory. I see this as a critical element to understand as it would surely affect front-end tuning, so should the loop-back be in place prior to tuning??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 11:18:56 AM
Wesley,

Thanks for your part 1 video. One observation about the ground wire length being a critical factor. When Kapanadze swapped over from the radiator to the water pipe ground in the green box video, the length was very much shorter and yet the device still functioned to light the lamps. Maybe Kapanadze's comment about his device having auto resonant tuning accounted for this.
There was no info about loop-back in the Ruslan circuit explanatory. I see this as a critical element to understand as it would surely affect front-end tuning, so should the loop-back be in place prior to tuning??

First we should build the core device and see if we have some OU, even small OU would do, if the device is really outputting OU then it could melt when self looped OR perhaps not... if amount of energy grows to much then the device goes out of resonance for a while... free energy stops flowing, things cool down and after that back again to resonance and OU territory.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 24, 2018, 01:34:29 PM
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Personally I do not believe that what you describe makes sense or is possible, but I am not knocking what you are doing, I just don't see it, the earth rotates with it's magnetic field and IMO it cannot be tapped as you suggest, at the same time i do not expect I can convince you of that.


I can however see a lot going on that I have discovered that Hendershot lines up with, a lot of aetheric principles, at least 7 things without looking too hard.


But it does not hurt to incorporate my idea whatever you might believe, most are electrically neutral.


That is not to say I don't believe the earth magnetic field plays no part, I think it does, just not as a means of energy generation.
If you show me what you are looking to do I can give you pointers, things you could try.


At any rate, there is not chance that most devices have a "conventional" explanation as they show signs of aetheric energy, current that does not shock, different colour of illumination, arcing at low voltage, thermal and magnetic anomalies and other weird stuff.  indeed, I am not sure this does not apply to Hendershot as well, but it applies to many devices.  indeed a number of Free Energy devices have Antigravity as a side effect.
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I'm not sure if my theory is correct, but i will try and see what would happened, there should be "something" because of third newton law (does third newton law works for magnetic fields too?) but what and how many I don't know. I just don't want to humiliate myself because this could be some stupid BS and lack of physics knowledge on me side lol. plus the language barrier so I will explain more and make some diagrams or even crude animation if I got the good results. The core idea is to push against earth mag field in some tricky way.

Anyways, the eather stuff could be related to magnetic fields, the bigger/wider the field the better, like in your transformer idea, so you could be right, once i made all sort of coil configurations and there were effects that i could not understand like primary bifilar canceling magnetic field coil(non inductive) that lights LED's on normal winded secondary while 0 current or voltage is shown on meter, some say that its capacitance effects but I'm not sure... same goes for coil made out of coil (wind coil on a thick insulated wire, this wire serves as core and then twist/wind this core on plastic pipe), in some cases i could power many leds with 0 currents on multimeter, yet cant charge capacitors with this, funny stuff.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: aether22 on July 24, 2018, 01:55:49 PM
once i made all sort of coil configurations and there were effects that i could not understand like primary bifilar canceling magnetic field coil(non inductive) that lights LED's on normal winded secondary while 0 current or voltage is shown on meter, some say that its capacitance effects but I'm not sure... same goes for coil made out of coil (wind coil on a thick insulated wire, this wire serves as core and then twist/wind this core on plastic pipe), in some cases i could power many leds with 0 currents on multimeter, yet cant charge capacitors with this, funny stuff.


Funny, you just mentioned 2 major aether hacking methods...


So, the bifilar coil many have observed creates a beam out the center.  By many people entierly independent of my efforts!
I have heard people talk about this!

What I have discovered, and really the outer coil in my inductor could be replaced with self cancelling bifilar, either totally cancelled or mostly...


What occurs is that if you induce aetheric energy (there is aetheric energy induced in electromagnetic induction, but normally not enough)  in 2 opposite directions, the opposing flows create collisions, and this creates aetheric turbulence, and this creates pressure...


And this pressure squeezes and focus energy inside the bifilar coil, and if there is another coil inside of that it can gain a lot of aetheric energy, the more you create density on the center of the coil the more the center radiates energy back out, this is because you raised the pressure of the aether so all activity disturbs a thicker more lively aether.
But, the short version is that it makes aetheric energy increase in the center.


Actually ideally a spark gap, or something highly energetic could be in the center...  Maybe a magnet, or a capacitor.  But something, maybe a resistor or light bulb.


However I suggested separate coils because while the EMF and aetheric EMF (yes, there is an aetheric analog of everything) in these coils will still work, it also creates a magnetic N pole in the center, and I have found this kind of thing can create aetheric magnetic monopoles!!  Not sure regular ones exist, but they exist aetherically!


Ok, now about the coil made of a coil...


So the first coil that I felt energy from after 17 years was a coil made of wire that was coiled around a central wire.
I could feel this coil issue and energy, even after it was disconnected the energy would persist, then I found if I made it asymmetric it would work without being connected to anything electrical, it just needs needs some bias.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 25, 2018, 11:31:49 AM
I read comments below last Panov video. He state Ruslan Dębice can only light something like 100w bulb. Prawdopodobnie czegoś brakuje 😋 albo już ktoś dotarł do Panova i wytłumaczył mi co i jak..... Kiedy wreszcie zrozumiecie że urządzenie musi przedstawiać realną wartość dla ludzkości np pozwolić na ogrzewanie domu bez kosztów eksploatacyjnych a przy tym nie może być ani cienia wątpliwości że nie pobiera lewego prądu z sieci elektroenergetycznej. Do tego kwestie testòwt , zabezpieczeń, bezpieczeństwa , atestówa, bezpieczeństwast, instrukcji obsługi serwisu części itd. Bez wsparcia lokalnego rządu to sie nie uda.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 25, 2018, 12:13:19 PM
I read comments below last Panov video. He state Ruslan Dębice can only light something like 100w bulb. Prawdopodobnie czegoś brakuje 😋 albo już ktoś dotarł do Panova i wytłumaczył mi co i jak..... Kiedy wreszcie zrozumiecie że urządzenie musi przedstawiać realną wartość dla ludzkości np pozwolić na ogrzewanie domu bez kosztów eksploatacyjnych a przy tym nie może być ani cienia wątpliwości że nie pobiera lewego prądu z sieci elektroenergetycznej. Do tego kwestie testòwt , zabezpieczeń, bezpieczeństwa , atestówa, bezpieczeństwast, instrukcji obsługi serwisu części itd. Bez wsparcia lokalnego rządu to sie nie uda.
Rough Google translation: Probably something is missing 😋 or someone has already reached Panov and explained to me what and how ..... When you finally understand that the device must represent a real value for humanity, for example, allow heating your home without operating costs and at the same time there can be no doubt that it does not charge the left electricity from the power grid.
This includes test, security, safety, approval, security, parts service instructions, etc. Without the support of the local government, it will not work.

Hmm, how do we construe the meaning of the highlighted text??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 25, 2018, 12:49:33 PM
Well does it or doesn't it use stray current from the grid?? Maybe this is what Wesley needs to establish during his visit to Latvia.



Panov said it can only give 100W and only when ground cable Has correct lenght. Sorry this tablet force je to wrote in Polish
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: saturnio on July 25, 2018, 01:04:12 PM
Hi Guys, there is a recent message from Sergej Panov in Wesley channel:

"The device does NOT produce any free energy! It is a scam perpetrated by Kulabuhov! The device works from a hidden AC connected wire! The whole free energy Kulabuhov device is fake! End of story!  Big scam!"

I am not an active member, but I read the post quite often, Perhaps someone with more clarity could explain the reason for the message?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 25, 2018, 01:50:56 PM
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"The device does NOT produce any free energy! It is a scam perpetrated by Kulabuhov! The device works from a hidden AC connected wire! The whole free energy Kulabuhov device is fake! End of story!  Big scam!"
now Panov claims that its a scam? why he changed his mind?? what the hell is going on between ruslan and panov??

Ok it seems that Panov was joking and here is the rest of it (truth?)

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o whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash! Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! ..."


Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 25, 2018, 02:20:32 PM
now Panov claims that its a scam? why he changed his mind?? what the hell is going on between ruslan and panov??

Ok it seems that Panov was joking and here is the rest of it (truth?)


o whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash! Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! ..."


Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.

where is vid 9 pointer and all this quote information from and it's pointer ?

More to the point why is he and Ruslan never show storage caps don Smith and Daily originals devices had ?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 25, 2018, 02:56:20 PM
where is vid 9 pointer and all this quote information from and it's pointer ?


Panov has this comment pinned to his most recent video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5za1r5gCw


Here's the exact quote from Sergej Panov in English:
"ENGLISH:
Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on
and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line.
The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov.
Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov
had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground.
The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line.
Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line
and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court
to stand by his free energy claims."

Here is what Panov wrote in Russian (translated to English):
"To whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash!
Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily
fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! Guys, thank you, do not need any money,
save yourself for the details or for the family, but who wants to transfer, thank you to you, that's my yandeh number,
there are no others. Photos will soon make and lay out: <yandex link>

00:01 Schemes, boards, connections, drawings!
22:40 Disclosure of the secret / operating principle of the Kulubukhov perpetuum mobile, Bes-Fuel Generator!
1:06:15 The markings!
1:17:06 Focus-Pokus BTG! How Kulabukhov bred!
1:41:16 What says Kulabukhov after selling me BTG!"


So Sergej Panov is now claiming that the device he purchased from Ruslan is a fake.
I think a while back Wesley stated that this guy Panov is a troll trying to discredit Ruslan.
So, we have two possibilities. Either Ruslan's device is fake, or Sergej Panov is a troll who is making 
a very big effort to discredit Ruslan. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions as I don't know anything
about this Sergej Panov guy, but there is no doubt that this looks bad for Ruslan. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 25, 2018, 03:32:57 PM
Yeah i see two options:

1.Ruslan device was real but geo dependent so it didn't  work for Panov in his country so angry Panov decided to discredit Ruslan by claiming its all fake.
2.Ruslan device was and still is fake, big scam.

any other possibilities? I don't think so...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 25, 2018, 07:19:46 PM
3. they are both scamers playing together :)
Ha ha you got to laugh at the bipolar response some one show me the proof !
Can any one do that ????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 25, 2018, 09:53:44 PM
I don't think any one cane prove it works or it don't on here.
No i was referring to all this probable prof of admitting fraud the guy is admitting to !
where is it ?

I tend to follow the money trail on this type of puzzle. However, proof is conclusive, so evidence is likely the best we can hope for in a forum environment.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 26, 2018, 06:42:39 AM
TK
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So, presumably YOU yourself can feel this energy you are talking about, coming from your designs, coils or images. So I propose a test. We will take one of your designs, coils or images, that you can feel, and we will put it into a box of some kind.

You may lose and the condition is called EM hypersensitivity
http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/

Nikola Tesla claimed to have such sensitivity to EM energy and it is well documented in the art. It is also known that sharks have electro-reception with a sensitivity as low as 5 nV/cm. https://www.wired.com/2013/08/how-sensitive-are-sharks-to-electric-fields/
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Suppose you put two D-cell batteries 1000 miles apart with a single wire connecting them. A shark could detect this faint voltage.

The real problem would seem to be arm chair critics who do no real experiments and corporations/government agencies who prostitute science in the name of profit/vested interests. Any fool should be able to feel the hair on their arm rise or move in the presence of HV fields. I can build a small HV circuit and put it in a box and take your money every time. The problem is most people are basically deaf, blind and dumb so far as awareness of the environment around them is concerned. They bumble about oblivious to everything around them then try to claim there ignorance is normal when it's not, it's just them.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 26, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
tysb3
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Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.

Awesome, now if you could post a copy of the court transcript or some other proof such as a receipt then we could believe you. Otherwise you have as much credibility as the inventors you claim are fakes. There is only one tangible proof and that is tangible proof and it works both ways.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tysb3 on July 26, 2018, 02:08:11 PM
@ onepower (https://overunity.com/profile/onepower.106102/)
I put there information what about his video say  Sergej Panov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCumjgeQXpjz4oaKXa7tZIwg)  ,which part of it Wesley wrong interpreted. For more informatios ask Sergej Panov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCumjgeQXpjz4oaKXa7tZIwg)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 02:36:08 PM
Yeah i see two options:
1.Ruslan device was real but geo dependent so it didn't  work for Panov in his country so angry Panov decided to discredit Ruslan by claiming its all fake.
2.Ruslan device was and still is fake, big scam.
any other possibilities? I don't think so...

Hi PolaczekCebulaczek.  Yes, it is possible that the device Panov bought from Ruslan is a
legit working 'FE' device, and possibly Panov just could not figure out how to make it work, or the
device does not work in his area.  I can't see the point of Ruslan selling just one device to one person
like this if the device is a complete fake, as Ruslan would have known that doing that would most probably bring
very negative consequences for him. Panov's insinuation that Ruslan must have been using a hidden very thin wire
is only speculation I think. I don't think there is evidence that Ruslan actually did that, unless Panov has
provided some actual convincing evidence showing Ruslan doing that somewhere in one of Ruslan's demos, but we
all already know that hidden wires are always a real possibility in any of these kind of demos. So there is nothing
new at all with this idea.


@Wesley: It would still be interesting to us all here I think to have some translation from Sergej Panov's
video # 9, as this video contains commentary from both Sergej and Ruslan. I know translating
that whole video would be a big job, but it would be interesting to at least know if it is mentioned about what agreement
was supposed to have been made between Sergej and Ruslan, and why Ruslan agreed to sell Sergej one of his devices at all.
At the last part of the video # 9, Sergej includes video commentary from Ruslan on this. What is Ruslan saying there?
Without knowing more details about what all transpired there, it is hard for people to assess what is really going on with all this.
That's my opinion anyway. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 02:49:03 PM
@ onepower (https://overunity.com/profile/onepower.106102/)
I put there information what about his video say  Sergej Panov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCumjgeQXpjz4oaKXa7tZIwg)  ,which part of it Wesley wrong interpreted. For more informatios ask Sergej Panov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCumjgeQXpjz4oaKXa7tZIwg)

Hi tysb3. Wesley did not interpret it wrong. Sergej Panov first released a video claiming he
got Ruslan's device working, and he said he was going to release full details in later videos
explaining how everything works, and provide schematics as well. Then later Sergej released his
video # 9, in which he says he believes Ruslan just used a cheap trick of having a hidden mains
phase wire in the ground wire. Sergej made misleading claims in his earlier video about getting his
device working, so it is understandable that people were mislead by that earlier video from Sergej.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 26, 2018, 03:14:08 PM
Hi tysb3. Wesley did not interpret it wrong. Sergej Panov first released a video claiming he
got Ruslan's device working, and he said he was going to release full details in later videos
explaining how everything works, and provide schematics as well. Then later Sergej released his
video # 9, in which he says he believes Ruslan just used a cheap trick of having a hidden mains
phase wire in the ground wire. Sergej made misleading claims in his earlier video about getting his
device working, so it is understandable that people were mislead by that earlier video from Sergej.
Well with all that has happened you didn't really think it would all go according to plan, did you?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 26, 2018, 04:51:31 PM
A much more likely scenario is that Panov did not have the skill to figure out how it works, panicked then claimed it didn't work.

Look at the time line...
1) He claims he has it working and will release details.
2)He shows no proof he has it working as time passes.
3)He then claims it does not work and is a fake.

It would seem to me that he is trying to lay blame on the device or technology for his own lack of knowledge and understanding which is often the case.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 26, 2018, 05:14:12 PM
Well we haven't had anything from Wesley, I.m more interested to see what else is available he has to share with us  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 05:23:41 PM
Hi onepower.  I think Sergej Panov had Ruslan's device in his possession for a long time before he made this latest series of videos.
He had already sued Ruslan some time ago claiming the device does not work. Then in the last couple of weeks or so he posted
a series of videos in which he was showing doing a bunch of testing and analysis with Ruslan's device, and then he released a video
about a week ago saying he managed to get Ruslan's device working, and that he was going to release further details about how the
device works in upcoming videos. Then Sergej released his video # 9 a few days ago saying that he actually used a hidden phase wire
to power the device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 26, 2018, 06:04:40 PM
Void
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Hi onepower.  I think Sergej Panov had Ruslan's device in his possession for a long time before he made this latest series of videos.
He had already sued Ruslan some time ago claiming the device does not work.

There is a very good reason these devices work in some places some of the time but not all of the time. Relative humidity, water in the air, will either dampen the HV resonant effects or short the device out all together. It is well known in the art and anyone with any amount of understanding of these kinds of systems should have figured this out.

A nearby thunderstorm produces even more variation because now the Earth Ground potential can swing from 100V/m to thousands of V/m overloading the device. Then when the wind blows humid air into the vicinity the unit shorts out and stops working all together. Why anyone would think a device extracting energy from it's environment would not be effected by said environment boggles the mind.

Imagine that, some people put hundreds of hours of testing into a device and it never works for no other reason than they didn't check the relative humidity in the room. It is often something that simple that many people over look that gets them.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twain




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 06:18:38 PM
I think most have been down this road before... it goes around the block and we always seem to
end up right back where we started. As one member suggested, the best option may be to stop blindly
following others and to take matters into our own hands.

Hi Onepower. It's up to any given person whether they want to spend some time running experiments
with these types of setups or not. There are several variations of these sort of devices out there, some
of which have been seen running up close by independent witnesses in person, so it shouldn't be
surprising that some people are interested in experimenting with similar setups, and trying to find
out more info about them. :)

However, one thing for pretty much certain is that despite what most anyone says about these 'FE' devices,
it appears anyone who might actually get one working is not very likely going to give out specific details
to the public for free about what makes their device work, as the potential is there to make big bucks from
a real FE device, if someone can actually get one working.  :)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 26, 2018, 06:20:34 PM
Sergej said that he found a spot to connect mains and then the device worked, with all tesla coils pushpuls, fans, leds and so on, those parts are just a decoy. Sergej did not modify anything , supposedly.

He also had shown all schematics and explained how mains current powered the device including relay's for battery.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 26, 2018, 06:24:29 PM
Sergej said that he found a spot to connect mains and then the device worked, with all tesla coils pushpuls, fans, leds and so on, those parts are just a decoy. Sergej did not modify anything , supposedly.

He also had shown all schematics and explained how mains current powered the device including relay's for battery.
Ah, now the series of events is making sense. It a bit of backwards engineering.  ;D 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 06:30:34 PM
Sergej said that he found a spot to connect mains and then the device worked, with all tesla coils pushpuls, fans, leds and so on, those parts are just a decoy. Sergej did not modify anything , supposedly.
He also had shown all schematics and explained how mains current powered the device including relay's for battery.

Hi PolaczekCebulaczek. 'Supposedly' being the key word there. :)
I saw in Sergej's video where it looked like he actually had soldered his thin phase wire 
in more than one place, but I don't speak Russian so I am not sure about what Sergej was
trying to show there.  Anyway, the same circuit layout may work exactly the same if the
power source is looping back from the output of the coils in self loop configuration, or if a mains hot phase
wire is soldered in the same place instead (prior to the loop back diode bridge). I'm personally not jumping to
any conclusions here anyway. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 26, 2018, 06:49:00 PM
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Hi PolaczekCebulaczek. 'Supposedly' being the key word there. :)
I saw in Sergej's video where it looked like he actually had soldered his thin phase wire
in more than one place, but I don't speak Russian so I am not sure about what Sergej was
trying to show there.  Anyway, the same circuit layout may work exactly the same if the
power source is looping back from the output of the coils in self loop configuration, or if a mains hot phase
wire is soldered in the same place instead (prior to the loop back diode bridge). I'm personally not jumping to
any conclusions here anyway. :)

that would be a surprise, hwoever one thing just makes me wonder, why in forest demo ruslan insert a pipe in some bushy area instead of open field?
Wesley is trying to contact Ruslan, Wes would bring HIS OWN ground wire or choose a location for demo, he will inspect everything, no room for hoax this time, if Ruslan let him...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 26, 2018, 07:24:36 PM
that would be a surprise, hwoever one thing just makes me wonder, why in forest demo ruslan insert a pipe in some bushy area instead of open field?
Wesley is trying to contact Ruslan, Wes would bring HIS OWN ground wire or choose a location for demo, he will inspect everything, no room for hoax this time, if Ruslan let him...

Hi PolaczekCebulaczek . Yes, I agree, it would be essential for Wesley to be allowed to disconnect the ground wire
at least at the end of the ground wire which connects to the device and inspect fully, and also to be allowed to handle
the device however he wants to inspect the device for any possible hidden wires as well. Doing the demo at some
random location in the country side, with the exact spot chosen by Wesley would be very good as well.

However, I can pretty much guarantee you that no matter what precautions and steps Wesley may take,
such as the steps mentioned above, (if Ruslan agrees to something like this), and if the device still works,
people will still be insisting that Wesley was still just tricked somehow, or they will insist that Wesley has joined
up with Ruslan to fool everyone. ;D

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 26, 2018, 07:42:01 PM
Void
There is a very good reason these devices work in some places some of the time but not all of the time. Relative humidity, water in the air, will either dampen the HV resonant effects or short the device out all together. It is well known in the art and anyone with any amount of understanding of these kinds of systems should have figured this out.

A nearby thunderstorm produces even more variation because now the Earth Ground potential can swing from 100V/m to thousands of V/m overloading the device. Then when the wind blows humid air into the vicinity the unit shorts out and stops working all together. Why anyone would think a device extracting energy from it's environment would not be effected by said environment boggles the mind.

Imagine that, some people put hundreds of hours of testing into a device and it never works for no other reason than they didn't check the relative humidity in the room. It is often something that simple that many people over look that gets them.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twain

Well it makes sense.

This means that the device needs to have a supply of condioned air?
Should not be that difficult.

Also the ionisation charge of the air trough the during thunderstorm should be relative easy to be controlled



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 26, 2018, 07:51:42 PM
Hi PolaczekCebulaczek . Yes, I agree, it would be essential for Wesley to be allowed to disconnect the ground wire
at least at the end of the ground wire which connects to the device and inspect fully, and also to be allowed to handle
the device however he wants to inspect the device for any possible hidden wires as well. Doing the demo at some
random location in the country side, with the exact spot chosen by Wesley would be very good as well.

However, I can pretty much guarantee you that no matter what precautions and steps Wesley may take,
such as the steps mentioned above, (if Ruslan agrees to something like this), and if the device still works,
people will still be insisting that Wesley was still just tricked somehow, or they will insist that Wesley has joined
up with Ruslan to fool everyone. ;D
And that would be the correct default position to take. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary levels of proof, after all. And what claim is more extraordinary than these: Self runners, not co-opted by the Russian military....

However, what is much more likely is that Wesley will not be allowed to perform the necessary inspections and experimentation to rule out hidden external or internal sources of power.
A third possibility is that the device won't work, and Ruslan and his cadre will fall back on the "onepower" excuse: not enough something in the air, too much other somethings, not Tuesday, not full enough moon, forgot to circle three times widdershins around the plinth.... 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 26, 2018, 07:59:22 PM
Void
There is a very good reason these devices work in some places some of the time but not all of the time. Relative humidity, water in the air, will either dampen the HV resonant effects or short the device out all together. It is well known in the art and anyone with any amount of understanding of these kinds of systems should have figured this out.

A nearby thunderstorm produces even more variation because now the Earth Ground potential can swing from 100V/m to thousands of V/m overloading the device. Then when the wind blows humid air into the vicinity the unit shorts out and stops working all together. Why anyone would think a device extracting energy from it's environment would not be effected by said environment boggles the mind.

Imagine that, some people put hundreds of hours of testing into a device and it never works for no other reason than they didn't check the relative humidity in the room. It is often something that simple that many people over look that gets them.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twain
Uh-huh, and pulling excuses out of thin air can also get you into trouble.

The devices "work" whenever and wherever they are demonstrated by Ruslan and his cronies. I don't recall seeing a failed demonstration, presented alongside a relative humidity measurement.

While it is certainly true that we don't know all the factors involved in getting one of these things to work, and humidity etc. can indeed affect circuitry in various ways, one could seize upon many many factors to blame for them not working. Phase of moon and day of week are my favorites. The moon phase is linked to tides... what could be more powerful than ocean tides! And have you noticed that Trump News peters out on Friday and there is very little over the weekend, and on Monday the news activity picks back up....

Look up "Special Pleading" when you have a chance.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 26, 2018, 08:44:13 PM
If that device works it would be a miracle. Remember Kapa aqua box video. That guy holding device said something important.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 27, 2018, 12:02:51 AM
Tinsel,

You are a smart guy, i almost whatched all your vid's with a lot of respect.
You like to make results...  i can see that...

Lets assume the Ruslan device is legimit,.... ( as i am convinced it is)

What would be in your opinion the driving force to obtain the absorbtion of the tesla charge/ ionisated air energy into the output coil?


I d like to get focussed on engineering facts....  even in little steps...  and after that the next one...... see relations,..  proof of concept.... and start again from there..  or try something els..  again,..  again .........  see those Amp and Volt meters doing crazy movements

We don't know who here on this forum have the same goals, having regard to the character where the discussion always falls back on shows that might be 8 out of 10 people here not to obtain  OU.
Sorry if I offend people but it really seems so.
There is no spin or within the meaning of working on the bench.

Just endless discussion about  the "fake issue".. which in my opinion is contra productive ....  what does not make sense as you look what knowledge and experience is on board here.
There was that other guy Adrian Gustov (sorry about spelling.
let's look at his Tesla coil for a start his L2 had a lot of turns on it and it was a 1/3 way up his L1 coil, doesn't that give you some idea's ? current (tuned exciter coil) High Voltage count turns so is in resonance.

Oh and one of his video's he showed a stack of capacitors in a block, for tuning ? or Pulsing ?
In his later video's self osculating would not have run that Katcher the gap was to big it sugest's
a higher voltage driver circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 27, 2018, 01:12:34 AM
the video is ready now :
https://youtu.be/FJXVVD8IiQc (https://youtu.be/FJXVVD8IiQc)

It is  somehow positive analysis of Ruslan Device.
It is A COPY of Akula device that was checked by Stepanov and examined by my friend Tiger.
Akula's device was also  examined  by German Investor  in 2014 who visited Akula.
And Germans are not naive people. After that Akula spend more than year in Germany.
Tiger my friend was also ask to work in Germany.

video contains  access to schematics and explanations
We may be dealing with targeted attack on
FE community
and if not than Sergey is  saying truth .
Please read description below  video and give me Hand Up As I suspect  that horde of Trolls will be targeting me again.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 27, 2018, 01:35:37 AM
... forgot to circle three times widdershins around the plinth....

Hi TK. Now you've gone and leaked the real secret of FE out...
Now everyone and their cat is going to be coming out with working FE devices. :D 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 27, 2018, 01:52:13 AM
... and if not than Sergey is saying truth.

Hi Wesley. I don't think Sergej is wrong or lying when he says he hooked the phase line from
the mains to the relay contact on the device and it works. The relay(s) is/are setup as a latching
relay, so I think it should work the same whether you connect the output from the grenade coil to that
point on the relay, or a wire connected to the mains phase line, if the grenade coil were producing enough
power to maintain self looping that is.  Since it should probably work the same either way, it doesn't
necessarily mean at all that Ruslan used a hidden mains phase wire.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 27, 2018, 03:15:32 AM
TK
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The devices "work" whenever and wherever they are demonstrated by Ruslan and his cronies. I don't recall seeing a failed demonstration, presented alongside a relative humidity measurement.

I do not believe that is true and it was documented in this thread that Ruslan had units which did not work in other locations. I also remember reading of similar instances with the Kapanadze device.

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While it is certainly true that we don't know all the factors involved in getting one of these things to work, and humidity etc. can indeed affect circuitry in various ways, one could seize upon many many factors to blame for them not working. Phase of moon and day of week are my favorites. The moon phase is linked to tides... what could be more powerful than ocean tides! And have you noticed that Trump News peters out on Friday and there is very little over the weekend, and on Monday the news activity picks back up....

My claim was made from first hand experience at the bench not theory. It is also well known in the art that PVC tubing for HV use should be warmed to drive off moisture or given a coat of varathane or epoxy to seal it. As well anyone can do a simple test, fire up a Tesla coil then spray some water mist near it... does it detune or not?. If you cannot or will not prove the matter for yourself then I'm sorry I cannot help you.

The fact remains that conduction increases as voltage rises and insulators and dielectrics can become conductors. At 500kV wood, water, earth and plastic containing moisture are very good conductors. All of this is explained in any textbook on HV phenomena, A.D. Moore for example.

I remember the hours of debate we had many years ago on every subject under the Sun and I put you in my top 5 most likely to nail this technology because of your experience ... what happened TK?. Why this?.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 04:12:24 AM
OK...  for the moment let's stipulate that the device(s) DO work, self-run and power reasonably heavy loads.
Please explain, then, why or how the various militaries and intelligence agencies active in that part of the world have not co-opted the inventors, seized their inventions, and militarized them for the battlefield? Or simply suppressed them altogether.
Why has this not happened? Why are these inventors still running around in the open, posting on forums and YT.... where is the FSB? CIA?
Please explain. Do you know how much a liter of Diesel fuel costs, on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Syria? It's a lot more than you pay at the pump, that's for sure. There are extremely powerful motivations for militaries to get and use this technology. So why haven't they done it already? Why aren't they taking steps to keep this tech out of the hands of their enemies?



@onepower: My SSTCs do not go out of tune in varying environmental conditions, because I use autoresonating circuitry that automagically adjusts itself to remain in resonance.   It's not hard.... maybe Ruslan should email me for a consult.  I'll make him a special deal....And as far as me "nailing" this technology... have you ever tried nailing jello to the wall? Nevertheless I hope you've seen my TKoil X demonstrations and can make the connection....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 27, 2018, 06:11:14 AM
OK...  for the moment let's stipulate that the device(s) DO work, self-run and power reasonably heavy loads.
Please explain, then, why or how the various militaries and intelligence agencies active in that part of the world have not co-opted the inventors, seized their inventions, and militarized them for the battlefield? Or simply suppressed them altogether.
Why has this not happened? Why are these inventors still running around in the open, posting on forums and YT.... where is the FSB? CIA?
Please explain. Do you know how much a liter of Diesel fuel costs, on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Syria? It's a lot more than you pay at the pump, that's for sure. There are extremely powerful motivations for militaries to get and use this technology. So why haven't they done it already? Why aren't they taking steps to keep this tech out of the hands of their enemies?

Hi TK. Who knows, but here's a couple of guesses.... :)

1) I think Latvia and Kazakhstan are not under Russia's control. FSB and CIA are not free to do as they please
in those two countries, I think.
2) Many/most people educated in science and engineering will most likely assume that all these free energy device
claims are a bunch of malarkey, so governments and their advisers may well assume it is all nonsense for the most
part, so pay it little attention. Who sends in military personnel or security agents or whatever over an issue they assume is nonsense?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 27, 2018, 06:13:33 AM
Watch my  video my friend.
I have spend 4 days,  to make this video( 16 hours/day ) i hotel room just to prove  that Sergey is likely wrong
or intentionally wrong. Intro was prerecorded
Wesley


Hi Wesley. Nice video! (You have been adding some cool video editing effects
in your videos in the past while BTW). I agree that it seems very unlikely that if Ruslan was
trying to scam Sergej with a fake device that Ruslan would leave a plainly visible 5 inch
piece of insulated wire hanging part way out the ground wire connection hole. Ruslan would
have to be a complete idiot to do that. It does seem much more likely that Sergej soldered
that wire there later, but I wasn't there so I of course can't say for certain what actually happened there. 



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 27, 2018, 06:15:29 AM
OK...  for the moment let's stipulate that the device(s) DO work, self-run and power reasonably heavy loads.
Please explain, then, why or how the various militaries and intelligence agencies active in that part of the world have not co-opted the inventors, seized their inventions, and militarized them for the battlefield? Or simply suppressed them altogether.
Why has this not happened? Why are these inventors still running around in the open, posting on forums and YT.... where is the FSB? CIA?
Please explain. Do you know how much a liter of Diesel fuel costs, on the battlefields of Afghanistan and Syria? It's a lot more than you pay at the pump, that's for sure. There are extremely powerful motivations for militaries to get and use this technology. So why haven't they done it already? Why aren't they taking steps to keep this tech out of the hands of their enemies?



@onepower: My SSTCs do not go out of tune in varying environmental conditions, because I use autoresonating circuitry that automagically adjusts itself to remain in resonance.   It's not hard.... maybe Ruslan should email me for a consult.  I'll make him a special deal....And as far as me "nailing" this technology... have you ever tried nailing jello to the wall? Nevertheless I hope you've seen my TKoil X demonstrations and can make the connection....
The point is this phenomena exists and so do star people like it or not, and Criminals In Action Perhaps you should ask your questions to George Bush but then he can't handle the truth!  Jello whats that ? try putting jello or swamp gas in a plastic bag before nailing bag to wall. Military another word for satanic minions and control ;D ;D no pun

But here perhaps we should be concerned in keeping in phase with the earths resonance yeah ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 27, 2018, 06:52:23 AM
To me it looks like Ruslan was trying to replicate Akula or Dally device (he spend a lot of work and money for circuitry and coils), failed and out of frustration decided to fake the device and created the YT/russian forum show, just for trolling or maybe for money from YT views and later sold the device to Panov for a juicy 5k E.

Even if that's the case then it does not mean that all devices are faked. Kapanadze, Vasmus and Akula (Akula used this suspicious thick wire too and he never removed the wire while performing demos) was hired be Germans yet none of his devices get to the market. For me the Vasmus demos were the most convincing; he really has shown all the connections, made outdoor video as well, removed ground wire then reconnect the ground wire and restarted the device, he even dissembled the device to small pieces. His best video (outdoor) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvZ6sVNAYU blurry but this is how a good FE demo should look like.

If Ruslan wont let Wesley inspect the device and choose location for demo then he is a finished conman.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 07:02:46 AM
Sorry, don't want interrupt your entertainment, this is for those who interested in real thing...
Yep, this is exactly how my autoresonating TinselKoil X works ... only wirelessly. Load is placed in the ground connection to a _second secondary_ some distance away from the transmitting coil. Or even a third... fourth.... who knows, I ran out of wire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFP6c7lwyoE)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 07:15:34 AM


Hi Wesley. Nice video! (You have been adding some cool video editing effects
in your videos in the past while BTW). I agree that it seems very unlikely that if Ruslan was
trying to scam Sergej with a fake device that Ruslan would leave a plainly visible 5 inch
piece of insulated wire hanging part way out the ground wire connection hole. Ruslan would
have to be a complete idiot to do that. It does seem much more likely that Sergej soldered
that wire there later, but I wasn't there so I of course can't say for certain what actually happened there.
Misdirection is a key part of stage magic. When you are thinking that the magician has to be a complete idiot... that's when he is most likely to fool you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbNNK1WaCL8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 07:26:45 AM
The point is this phenomena exists and so do star people like it or not, and Criminals In Action Perhaps you should ask your questions to George Bush but then he can't handle the truth!  Jello whats that ? try putting jello or swamp gas in a plastic bag before nailing bag to wall. Military another word for satanic minions and control ;D ;D no pun

But here perhaps we should be concerned in keeping in phase with the earths resonance yeah ?
I like the way you think.

The Earth-plus-ionosphere is a big spherical capacitor. Where does the charge accumulate on a spherical capacitor?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 27, 2018, 08:15:40 AM
I like the way you think.

The Earth-plus-ionosphere is a big spherical capacitor. Where does the charge accumulate on a spherical capacitor?
Ha Ha ! between the surface of the outer sphere inner sphere (earth) and  inner surface of the outer sphere.
What you should be asking is how do you attract charged particles/electrons from one or the other charged surfaces with
a Tesla coil thats outputting AC ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 27, 2018, 10:22:45 AM
I think Tesla had Givenchy the answer in 1900
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 27, 2018, 10:25:10 AM
Look again at Kapa aquabox in garden. IT is ciężki
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 27, 2018, 10:34:24 AM
This thread has certainly come alive! Thanks again Wesley for the translation of Sergey's video plus schematics.
I find it quite amusing that the Ruslan layout provides for a latching relay placed very conveniently next to the ground wire entry point for easy termination of a concealed phase wire. Added to that, he sells the device to Sergey with clear evidence that a wire had been cleanly cut from the relay terminal and when Segey eventually soldered a 'hot' phase wire to the terminal, the device sprang into life! IMO, one has to be naive to think that Ruslan ever video demonstrated the device working without the phase wire connected. I see no evidence that Ruslan's device was ever genuine but increasing evidence that it was a faked self-runner.
Another observation: If the length of the ground wire is critical, presumably the length of both Ruslan's and Sergey's home pipework has to be taken into consideration?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 27, 2018, 10:51:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 Lastest ruslan device, where is the hidden wire?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 27, 2018, 10:56:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8) Lastest ruslan device, where is the hidden wire?
If its done properly, you won't see it in a Youtube video.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 27, 2018, 11:34:29 AM
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If its done properly, you won't see it in a Youtube video

like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljKX9Om7Z4s)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 27, 2018, 11:38:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8) Lastest ruslan device, where is the hidden wire?


Yes! No hidden wire. Look especially how much static around. But device is light and and output also only 16W. Kapa had 2kW for such size because he had stronger fields

I once got it and even the chasis of car battery has a lot of static which light neon
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 27, 2018, 11:53:58 AM

Yes! No hidden wire. Look especially how much static around. But device is light and and output also only 16W. Kapa had 2kW for such size because he had stronger fields

I once got it and even the chasis of car battery has a lot of static which light neon
That's normal when working with HV and TC's. Bright HV lit neon lights are not power output level indicators.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 27, 2018, 12:46:29 PM
Look again at Kapa aquabox in garden. IT is ciężki
so it's heavy so ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 27, 2018, 01:24:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8) Lastest ruslan device, where is the hidden wire?
Remaining in my role as resident skeptic, I reply:

Hidden wire is not necessary when coil form is big enough for batteries containing plenty of energy to power the demonstration shown in the video. We only have the presenter's word that there are no lithium batteries inside the coil form.  Each separate demonstration doesn't need to use the same method of trickery.


16 watts of light power at 220 VAC, a little spark gap, some HV/HF all over the device, less than five minutes of working shown... no problem for a LiPo battery inside the form.

There are plenty of red herrings, as usual. The best red herring, though, as I've often said, is a real fish, and Ruslan appears to know this too, because the devices _do_ work, that is, they oscillate, produce HV, drive loads using the principle noted above by vasik041 and illustrated by my TKoil X, and so forth. When supplied with power, that is.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on July 27, 2018, 02:09:00 PM
so it's heavy so ?


lots of iron to produce very strong magnetic field
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on July 27, 2018, 03:17:27 PM
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8ABhb5wDJ8 Lastest ruslan device, where is the hidden wire?

Remaining in my role as resident skeptic, I reply:

Hidden wire is not necessary when coil form is big enough for batteries containing plenty of energy to power the demonstration shown in the video. We only have the presenter's word that there are no lithium batteries inside the coil form.  Each separate demonstration doesn't need to use the same method of trickery.


16 watts of light power at 220 VAC, a little spark gap, some HV/HF all over the device, less than five minutes of working shown... no problem for a LiPo battery inside the form.

There are plenty of red herrings, as usual. The best red herring, though, as I've often said, is a real fish, and Ruslan appears to know this too, because the devices _do_ work, that is, they oscillate, produce HV, drive loads using the principle noted above by vasik041 and illustrated by my TKoil X, and so forth. When supplied with power, that is.

True, its easy do drive  16 watt bulbs for a short while using HV discharges or resonant systems, single wire transmission is a possibility too, all of Ruslan demos can be faked by someone skilled in such art. If I would have a real FE device , then my demos would be long, outdoor, HD and detailed, showing all connections and even live streamed on YT.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on July 27, 2018, 05:44:32 PM
Remaining in my role as resident skeptic, I reply:

Hidden wire is not necessary when coil form is big enough for batteries containing plenty of energy to power the demonstration shown in the video. We only have the presenter's word that there are no lithium batteries inside the coil form.  Each separate demonstration doesn't need to use the same method of trickery.

My favourite is the Kapanadze Aqua 2 trick using the rather exotic ground wire - copper braided tube to conceal the phase / 'hot' wire.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 27, 2018, 07:37:18 PM
Wesley Where are you ? I ask if your in Latvia ? you do know there is a Lunar eclips just starting there !
Strange coincidence don't you think so. Or are you oblivious to cosmic forces but rely on them for energy  8)

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/lunar/2018-july-27

Good Luck AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 28, 2018, 01:09:33 AM
TK
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Hidden wire is not necessary when coil form is big enough for batteries containing plenty of energy to power the demonstration shown in the video. We only have the presenter's word that there are no lithium batteries inside the coil form.  Each separate demonstration doesn't need to use the same method of trickery.

That is an interesting theory, so how would you explain T.H.Moray driving a 20 KW load from a box no bigger than 2 square feet, for hours on end in front of many credible witnesses, in the middle of nowhere at a random location using 1930's battery technology?. I understand they are different people from a different time in a different place however if your going to apply a bs hidden battery theory to every case then I would love to hear your theory on T.H.moray.

Do you have any idea of what it would take to generate 10 KW per cubic foot using conventional technology today in 2018?. I don't think you have any idea to be honest because even by today's standards it would be miraculous.

Then we have Daniel McFarland Cook using a few coils and an interrupter producing KW power levels in 1871. Do you understand the state of technology in 1871?, the automobile would not be invented for another 14 years, Tesla would not design his alternating-current electrical system for another 18 years. So did Cook generate KW power levels from hidden batteries in 1871 as well?. It's comical because a simple inventor from 1871 would seem to understand something all the rocket scientists and all the experts in 2018 cannot seem to grasp, as they say something so simple even a child could understand it. That has to sting a bit doesn't it?, everyone is a fucking genius... they just can't build anything that works.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 28, 2018, 02:52:13 AM
Sorry, don't want interrupt your entertainment, this is for those who interested in real thing...

Hello vasik041. Have you tested this?
If so, what kind of actual results are you seeing in your testing?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 28, 2018, 02:52:36 AM
TK
That is an interesting theory, so how would you explain T.H.Moray driving a 20 KW load from a box no bigger than 2 square feet, for hours on end in front of many credible witnesses, in the middle of nowhere at a random location using 1930's battery technology?. I understand they are different people from a different time in a different place however if your going to apply a bs hidden battery theory to every case then I would love to hear your theory on T.H.moray.
Show me his YouTube video and I'll theorize how he did it.  Because that is all I'm working with in my "interesting theory" above. Give me the actual device and I'll for sure tell you how it works.

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Do you have any idea of what it would take to generate 10 KW per cubic foot using conventional technology today in 2018?. I don't think you have any idea to be honest because even by today's standards it would be miraculous.
I can generate 10 kW per cubic foot using an ordinary car battery. Not for very long of course. Maybe you don't have any idea what I have ideas about. Or maybe you just don't know the difference between power and energy.
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Then we have Daniel McFarland Cook using a few coils and an interrupter producing KW power levels in 1871. Do you understand the state of technology in 1871?, the automobile would not be invented for another 14 years, Tesla would not design his alternating-current electrical system for another 18 years. So did Cook generate KW power levels from hidden batteries in 1871 as well?. It's comical because a simple inventor from 1871 would seem to understand something all the rocket scientists and all the experts in 2018 cannot seem to grasp, as they say something so simple even a child could understand it. That has to sting a bit doesn't it?, everyone is a fucking genius... they just can't build anything that works.
That's right, it has to sting a bit. All these people all trying to build something and they keep failing. Like I said before... show me Cook's YouTube video and I'll tell you my theory of how it works. Show me the actual apparatus and I'll definitely tell you how it works. What... no video, no actual apparatus, just "reports"?  No wonder everybody keeps failing.

Heck, I've read lots of reports of a man rising from the dead three days after dying on a cross. Lots of people believe that. But nobody can actually verify it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 28, 2018, 02:54:12 AM
Hello vasik041. Have you tested this?
If so, what kind of actual results are you seeing in your testing?
What his pdf shows is exactly what my TKoil X is doing. All except for the overunity of course. But it's easy to make overunity measurements on something like this.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 28, 2018, 04:00:36 AM
Show me his YouTube video and I'll theorize how he did it.  Because that is all I'm working with in my "interesting theory" above. Give me the actual device and I'll for sure tell you how it works.
I can generate 10 kW per cubic foot using an ordinary car battery. Not for very long of course. Maybe you don't have any idea what I have ideas about. Or maybe you just don't know the difference between power and energy.That's right, it has to sting a bit. All these people all trying to build something and they keep failing. Like I said before... show me Cook's YouTube video and I'll tell you my theory of how it works. Show me the actual apparatus and I'll definitely tell you how it works. What... no video, no actual apparatus, just "reports"?  No wonder everybody keeps failing.
Well Don Smith managed it and Henry Moray did too!

Heck, I've read lots of reports of a man rising from the dead three days after dying on a cross. Lots of people believe that. But nobody can actually verify it.
Perhaps! your not getting mixed up with the Sun that's Said to dye on the 'southern cross' around christmas for 3 days
and then starts going again as the illusion of the sun rises again ? sounds familiar some how, can't think why. Perhaps the info has all got mixed up who knows.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: vasik041 on July 28, 2018, 06:44:09 AM
Hello vasik041. Have you tested this?
If so, what kind of actual results are you seeing in your testing?
Hello Void,This not my main research path, I work with magnetic fields.But yes, I made some experiments, there is definitely current in ground wire... and this make some people very nervous :)
Regards,-V.
PS Take a minute and read attached article, it's same principle but ionization achieved in a different way.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: vasik041 on July 28, 2018, 06:47:50 AM
What his pdf shows is exactly what my TKoil X is doing. All except for the overunity of course. But it's easy to make overunity measurements on something like this.
With all respect to you TinselKoala, your system is different.You are very smart guy, I do not believe that you do not understand it, so please don't mislead people  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 28, 2018, 07:31:36 AM
Hello Void,This not my main research path, I work with magnetic fields.But yes, I made some experiments, there is definitely current in ground wire... and this make some people very nervous :)
Regards,-V.
PS Take a minute and read attached article, it's same principle but ionization achieved in a different way.

Hi vasik041. That's an interesting article. Thanks for that.
Discharging the static charge in the air to ground to produce steady electricity.
It seems it would take a lot of balloons to even power a very small town, but still pretty cool!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on July 28, 2018, 09:07:05 AM
vasik041

Thank you for the interesting article, I have studied Plauson's work.

Around 40 years ago when I was a young man I noticed a thunder storm about 10 miles away approaching our farm. Our 40 foot tower with a TV antenna also happened to have a broken ground strap. In the dead calm before the storm I remember hearing a load buzzing noise and found a thick 1" blue arc breaking across the broken ground strap.

Strange isn't it?, the layman would have us believe there is no power in the atmosphere but here was a near continuous thick blue 1" long arc jumping to ground from a relatively short tower in the dead calm... before the storm. I suppose seeing is believing but it shouldn't take a rocket scientist to find more creative means to produce similar effects in fair weather at the lower voltage of 100 V/m. If we know the energy is there and it is then it's simply a matter of approaching the problem from a different perspective. Do we simply allow the energy to flow at it's own rate to ground or can we increase the rate of conduction through other means?.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 28, 2018, 09:17:42 AM
Hi vasik041. That's an interesting article. Thanks for that.
Discharging the static charge in the air to ground to produce steady electricity.
It seems it would take a lot of balloons to even power a very small town, but still pretty cool!
That's the idea of the HV static potential !  then you don't need balloons.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: vasik041 on July 28, 2018, 10:00:41 AM
Do we simply allow the energy to flow at it's own rate to ground or can we increase the rate of conduction through other means?.
Power depends on voltage and current. Putting "antenna" higher will increase voltage. Ionizing air around "antenna" increase current.
Here a link to an article with good explanation of this idea http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/9331.html. Perhaps Wesley can make proper translation, meanwhile you can use google translate
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciteclibrary.ru%2Frus%2Fcatalog%2Fpages%2F9331.html
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on July 29, 2018, 01:01:19 PM
History repeat...again ...

 http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/ (http://newlightondarkenergy.blogspot.com/)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on July 29, 2018, 06:19:28 PM
About the scope i will advice to you prefer tektronix  i know they have a more affordable scopes available at moment . I really don't like Rigoli because some problems that i have with the equipaments when i use in German workshop . Almost need to be repaired .
The only thing i like about Rigoli is technical support ; everytime everything run ok during the process of repair in Rigoli .The best scope you could have to high freq switching and HV maybe could be a analog scope but is my opinion ;now here is a question that TK can help you given your experience with oscilloscope. :) lol

Thanks Nelson. Sounds like maybe Rigol is not much better quality-wise than a Siglent scope.
Yes, Tektronix would be really good if I can find a fairly new one that I can afford. :)

Nelson, do you have anything interesting you are experimenting with lately?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on July 29, 2018, 06:38:28 PM
and then there is the "other" side of that story, the Scientific perspective [thx to member Reiyuki  for "jokes"

snip
Energy cannot arise from nothing!
Well, except for this one time...     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang)

---------------------------------------------------------

There is no perpetual motion!
.... except for the orbitals of every atomic element in the universe...    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital)   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 29, 2018, 07:12:09 PM
and then there is the "other" side of that story, the Scientific perspective [thx to member Reiyuki  for "jokes"

snip
Energy cannot arise from nothing!
Well, except for this one time...     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang)

---------------------------------------------------------

There is no perpetual motion!
.... except for the orbitals of every atomic element in the universe...    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital)
Yeah! one problem with that, you can't have nothing, nothing is always something! and then there is dark matter, what ever that is
is any ones guess but what is known about it is it's pulling the universe apart, fun ain'it ;)
Free energy is a charge in the atmosphere between earth and ionosphere from solar winds, tap into it one way or another and never buy another KW of power again!
Fun ain'it
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 30, 2018, 08:27:42 PM
What "we heave here is that Kapanadze theory missing from this discussion "..


Now it's egos who is better with useless post here... Provide at least some theory of why this device is real as Wesley
has said...


Who are these Newbies with the intellectual capacity of a capacitor.. Say something that is original !!


University credentials just give you enough to fall flat and make you a village idiot.. Profound posts by Wesley
are the reason I read here. Idiots don't belong here.. I can see them on their silly phones..


Happy life from sunny today Poland..


Acca..
Well I know for a fact Ruslan is no NOVICE ! i forgot this little fact and a real gem! he had a video on his youtube,
He was in a field with an old transmitting Aerial tower the down lead had been cut and the top of the tower was some height, any way
but dismantled as far as aerials were concerned, anyway as Ruslan moved the cable it contacted the tower metal work with arks and
flashes!

My point is that is free energy from part the way to the ionosphere you or any one else would not need much to convert that static
to usable energy !

While we are at it the TK green device have a thing about two earths ? look at this picture of the green box
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 30, 2018, 09:53:06 PM
Actually, I am leaning towards Ruslan being legit.
Some recent info/videos posted by Ruslan in the past while indicate Ruslan may now have figured
out how to get the output at or near 50Hz. His devices seem to be progressing, and he is showing no
signs of stopping. :) Ruslan seems to be reluctant to release his devices willy nilly on the world
due to the effects it might have on the current world economic order, but Ruslan is still
showing things and commenting, but more low key now. He is really not hiding all that much, I think. ;)

Void,

I think you are on the spot right now,..  lets crush the "fake " narrative..

Some more information which would point at legimit narrative's.


Ruslan has built and (do) maintains a radio transmitter/station and that requires thorough knowledge of RF theory,
Transmission line theory, etc. along with hands on experience. 
He has the equipment also!

Akula, who kinda started all this, has a DSA815 Rigol on his bench. 
I am sure it is NOT there for decor.

These people are NOT just guessing and playing games, I do believe that they have something and that their devices do function.

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 30, 2018, 11:10:22 PM
Void,

I think you are on the spot right now,..  lets crush the "fake " narrative..

Some more information which would point at legimit narrative's.


Ruslan has built and (do) maintains a radio transmitter/station and that requires thorough knowledge of RF theory,
Transmission line theory, etc. along with hands on experience. 
He has the equipment also!

Akula, who kinda started all this, has a DSA815 Rigol on his bench. 
I am sure it is NOT there for decor.

These people are NOT just guessing and playing games, I do believe that they have something and that their devices do function.

Greetings
did you notice the thick black cable going into the center of the green box winding ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on July 31, 2018, 09:06:50 PM
Well it looks a bit like the earth cable to me.


Well,... can you prove it.....technical it could be a cable from the power grid to supply the greenbox with power?


so,...  here we go again... :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 31, 2018, 10:41:27 PM

Well,... can you prove it.....technical it could be a cable from the power grid to supply the greenbox with power?


so,...  here we go again... :o
Look on page 4 it would need some experimentation with HV dangerous stuff
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 01, 2018, 04:34:28 PM
Hi everyone,
I reveal something from sergey video that will make people go crazy once more.
I have attached screenshot from the youtube at 4.59...5.01 Minutes into video.Have anyone wondered why Amps became zero from Power supply after Kapanadze device was powered up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo)
---------------------------------------------Additonally one part of the circuit revealed by Sergey which i need to convert And gate to Nand to resolve circuit error in that circuit.I found out it is a divide by 12 circuit.
30khz example input frequency would be converted to 2.5khz.Please do not ask me why.
 ----------------------------
May be keen to know that the word "Electron accelerator" do exist today.But it does sound crazy talking about it couple of decades ago. :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 01, 2018, 05:45:30 PM
magpwr
Quote
May be keen to know that the word "Electron accelerator" do exist today.But it does sound crazy talking about it couple of decades ago.

Strange isn't it?, a battery accelerates electrons due to a chemical reaction, a solar cell accelerates electrons due to excitation across a band gap and all our generators accelerate electrons due to a changing magnetic field. Where once the free electrons were uniformly distributed within the material now they experience a force which causes them to start accelerating and move along a conductor.

In many respects we could simply throw out all the math, equations, rules and regulations and all the complexity and say energy is produced whenever free electrons experience a force and start accelerating. It does not matter how the force on the electrons causing them to accelerate is produced only that it is produced in some way. In fact this is the only requirement...period.

Steven Marks got it right in my opinion... everyone is trying to build the most complex devices and yet they still do not understand the basics. Steven said all you need to understand is all the possible actions and reactions in a single piece of wire. If you can understand this one thing then you have all that is required to build a FE device. Oh I can just see all the supposed experts throwing up there arms claiming they understand everything however it should be obvious they do not understand. They have missed something so basic, so simple even a child could understand it found in the understanding of a single piece of wire.

One cannot claim to understand anything when they cannot produce the desired results and the only real experts are the one's with working devices sitting on their bench... that should have been obvious.

Magpwr, a little advice, what your looking for does not show up on a simulator and in most cases it does not show up on a DSO unless you know what your looking for. As Ruslan implied... throw all your fancy equipment and your complex theories out the window and use your head.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 01, 2018, 06:23:26 PM
Hi everyone,
I reveal something from sergey video that will make people go crazy once more.
I have attached screenshot from the youtube at 4.59...5.01 Minutes into video.Have anyone wondered why Amps became zero from Power supply after Kapanadze device was powered up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo)

That's most likely because its powered from the grid on a 'hot Wire' straight into the device!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 01, 2018, 09:04:09 PM
Isn't that the 12 Volt input feed input from the start up battery ?

Think about this then for a change.
The Kacher suppose thats running with high voltage on it, how is that energy input into
the rest of the device ? The coil of wire with a few turns on it ? some things more basic don't add up.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 01, 2018, 09:43:03 PM
magpwr
Strange isn't it?, a battery accelerates electrons due to a chemical reaction, a solar cell accelerates electrons due to excitation across a band gap and all our generators accelerate electrons due to a changing magnetic field. Where once the free electrons were uniformly distributed within the material now they experience a force which causes them to start accelerating and move along a conductor.

In many respects we could simply throw out all the math, equations, rules and regulations and all the complexity and say energy is produced whenever free electrons experience a force and start accelerating. It does not matter how the force on the electrons causing them to accelerate is produced only that it is produced in some way. In fact this is the only requirement...period.

Steven Marks got it right in my opinion... everyone is trying to build the most complex devices and yet they still do not understand the basics. Steven said all you need to understand is all the possible actions and reactions in a single piece of wire. If you can understand this one thing then you have all that is required to build a FE device. Oh I can just see all the supposed experts throwing up there arms claiming they understand everything however it should be obvious they do not understand. They have missed something so basic, so simple even a child could understand it found in the understanding of a single piece of wire.

One cannot claim to understand anything when they cannot produce the desired results and the only real experts are the one's with working devices sitting on their bench... that should have been obvious.

Magpwr, a little advice, what your looking for does not show up on a simulator and in most cases it does not show up on a DSO unless you know what your looking for. As Ruslan implied... throw all your fancy equipment and your complex theories out the window and use your head.
Well the signal comes from only 1 half of the 494 not both so if it's running from 12kh to 18khz the 4017 would only output
divide by 2 (input) and divide by 6 to 9  and then there is the 4013 divide by 2 again. some where around 1khz ?
But then whats the point of that ? but what it could do with a cap and resistor or two is test the PUSH PULL is running,
but I could think of an easier way to do that, but there again it's output goes no where! Oh and the logic is driven at 5Volts
But the TL494 could be run from 12 Volts or 24Volts, fun ain'it ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 01, 2018, 10:32:42 PM
Quote
Well the signal comes from only 1 half of the 494 not both so if it's running from 12kh to 18khz the 4017 would only output
divide by 2 (input) and divide by 6 to 9  and then there is the 4013 divide by 2 again. some where around 1khz ?
But then whats the point of that ? but what it could do with a cap and resistor or two is test the PUSH PULL is running,
but I could think of an easier way to do that, but there again it's output goes no where! Oh and the logic is driven at 5Volts
But the TL494 could be run from 12 Volts or 24Volts, fun ain'it ?

I think you nailed it and after reading page after page of this nonsense, Ad nauseam I want to pull out my hair. It would seem common sense has left the building.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 01, 2018, 11:34:28 PM
Hoppy
Quote
That's most likely because its powered from the grid on a 'hot Wire' straight into the device!

Or a secondary coil such as a Tesla coil connected to ground can produce a net charge on it's surface while a secondary coil such as a Tesla coil not connected to ground can only produce a charge separation along it's length and not a net charge. This thing you cannot seem to wrap your mind around can be found in any high school textbook.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 02, 2018, 01:37:54 PM
Maybe you can wrap your mind around and demonstrate how a TC can produce a continuous net charge without a power supply to drive it, whilst its 'top-load' is coupled to a grenade coil powering a heavy lamp load, also not being powered from a conventional power supply.
Hoppy I myself can do use and train my mind to do many things, and all my cats do many useful things
but I am have not as yet had occasion to see him (my top cat) do as you request  8) 8)!

I think you are asking for the meal to already made, but all the items for the meal are in this thread, Its just a question
of assembling the the individual items and then you can eat the meal. As you will already know many have found the meal already eaten.
As you might have guessed many of us are just back room boys and don't want to appear on stage eating our lunch!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 02, 2018, 06:06:57 PM
So that's tantamount to saying the 'proof is in the pudding' in the modern sense of the phrase. I call your bluff on that one  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Find your glasses and gloss over page 37 and READ IT !

TK and Hoppy  ;D ;D ;D
Our planet in electrical terms is a kind of spherical capacitor, charged to about 300,000 volts. The inner sphere - the surface of the Earth - is charged negatively, the outer sphere - the ionosphere - is positive. The Earth's atmosphere serves as an insulator.

Find a way to collect it !

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 02, 2018, 08:43:28 PM
a way to use it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLtVrfz7y0
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 03, 2018, 02:05:53 AM
AG
Quote
Our planet in electrical terms is a kind of spherical capacitor, charged to about 300,000 volts. The inner sphere - the surface of the Earth - is charged negatively, the outer sphere - the ionosphere - is positive. The Earth's atmosphere serves as an insulator.

I believe it was Richard Feynman who said radiation and evaporation are the primary transport mechanisms which continually drive free electrons from the Earth to the atmosphere. What we see as lightning is the Earth capacitor trying to discharge and balance itself. We are in fact stuck between two area's of extreme potential looking for a path to find equilibrium.

You have to think about it for a moment, imagine you are stuck between two very large capacitor plates which are already charged. You did not create this energy nor does it appear from nothing... it is already present as explained above. Now all you have to do is find a way discharge some of the potential already present to produce an electric current. What kind of circuit could you place in between two charged capacitor plates which could discharge some of the potential?.

I will let you in on a little secret... if you can build a circuit which can discharge some of the potential between two charged capacitor plates at a distance in your lab or garage then you can do it anywhere. The secret is called science and if the premise is sound the premise must apply in every instance.

Strange isn't it?, who would have thought that using scientific principals, experiments and a little common sense could offer a little insight into the problem at hand. It's a pretty simple proposition... either your circuit works or it does not.




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 03, 2018, 07:40:18 AM
"Now all you have to do is find a way discharge some of the potential already present to produce an electric current."[/size] I AGREE  ;D
Did you watch the video from my previous post ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 03, 2018, 09:01:12 AM

d. 
it was noticed that  using  earth as  e return wire ( means of connection) saves battery life  anywhere from 50% to  hundreds of %

Wesley
In comparison to which other tested circuit configuration?
I recall in my young days as a UK BR railway telecomms tech that dry batteries powering trackside 2- wire (very long line) code ringing telephones would still adequately function even when their batteries were swollen and leaking electrolyte. In this case it was nothing to do with earth return / telluric currents. Some of these batteries were known to have powered their phones for many years without replacement.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 03, 2018, 04:47:56 PM

IMO, for people who want to have a chance at moving forward with understanding,
you must be able to prove/disprove your ideas/assumptions with actual physical tests and experiments.
This is a basic tenet of the physical sciences for a very good reason.
That was all I was saying Wesley. I don't think it is unreasonable at all, given all the unsubstantiated
and wild claims people frequently made in these forums. :)
Void
What you are asking ! You will be very lucky for some one to come out of the closet over
with out putting there existence in a life or death situation !
As you say loads of stuff on the net is total BS, I would suggest you abandon your 'have and to hold'
demands and relax and dig deeper into what is real.

A real Tesla device observe and learn, and don't dismiss this link as irreverent !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3933099103&feature=iv&index=2&list=PLFsZmHTZL-zmfXxstlxuJgRE9bOGobEVu&src_vid=vemF7p0cbHU&v=0SaEPW_iMF8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 03, 2018, 07:43:47 PM
Notice the Tesla coil exploits this very phenomena yet every one ignores it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3933099103&feature=iv&index=2&list=PLFsZmHTZL-zmfXxstlxuJgRE9bOGobEVu&src_vid=vemF7p0cbHU&v=0SaEPW_iMF8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on August 03, 2018, 09:57:44 PM
sorry to chime in in this "Tk and ruslan did not used a second ground"
thats verry true in meaning they hat only one  line to earthground ...  the second can just what you would call a virtual ground..even if its not the whole storry about it. just take pice of iron and use it as the second gnd.

how ever tesla  as well as alexanderson made a graet deal about virtual grounding .. in terms of mass and material.

wesleys steps bevore are ment more ore less as basic setup to get a understanding how and why . at least thats how i look at it .
beside that i was abled to proof some his points .

have fun JoJo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 04, 2018, 02:07:01 AM
Void
Quote
IMO, for people who want to have a chance at moving forward with understanding,
you must be able to prove/disprove your ideas/assumptions with actual physical tests and experiments.
This is a basic tenet of the physical sciences for a very good reason.

Proof
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 04, 2018, 06:27:04 PM
sorry to chime in in this "Tk and ruslan did not used a second ground"
thats verry true in meaning they hat only one  line to earthground ...  the second can just what you would call a virtual ground..even if its not the whole storry about it. just take pice of iron and use it as the second gnd.

how ever tesla  as well as alexanderson made a graet deal about virtual grounding .. in terms of mass and material.

wesleys steps bevore are ment more ore less as basic setup to get a understanding how and why . at least thats how i look at it .
beside that i was abled to proof some his points .

have fun JoJo
I do not see Kapanadze or Ruslan using a virtual ground in terms of a mass of material. Nothing we see in their videos support the use of any more than a single physical earth ground point.

Which of Wesley's points have you been able to prove?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 04, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
I do not see Kapanadze or Ruslan using a virtual ground in terms of a mass of material. Nothing we see in their videos support the use of any more than a single physical earth ground point.



Hoppy,....did we finaly end the GROUND wire chapter?. ;D
I am very glad we ended this GROUND connection chapter.

So what chapter is next?


Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 04, 2018, 07:50:23 PM
??

- Hidden batterie
- Coil mode of operation
- Electrostatic mode of operation
- etc..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 04, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
Indeed, whoa!

I started looking at a two ground system some time back.

https://youtu.be/mRz3oTLicT4

Sadly my own health deteriorated to the point of not being able to continue with experiments.

In the video I mentioned a gentleman who's handle is Dragon, he had developed a circuit that automatically charged a capacitor bank.

Don't forget that most early telegraph routes were " dowsed " to find the best efficiency !   ;) I was taught dowsing as an apprentice whilst training as an electrician for the local water supply company.

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: cheappower2012 on August 05, 2018, 10:13:48 AM
When I was in the old tpu thread,the same thing happened, people
listened to the inventor say something and ran with it.I can't get this to build the device,conclusion it must
be important,this happens in this thread,your being tricked by Kapandaze.In the tpu thread it was the inventor
wants you to build hes device
and would never lie to you,stupidity reined in that thread.In this thread, its a Tesla invention,
it operates at high frequency,the coil construction  is the secret.
Here is another of Kapanadze's devices,the ground wire can not be  two wires Hoppy,
the fan that he uses operates at 220vac ,50 Hz so the output has to be 220 vac, 50hz.
At the max power it draws 14.8 amps times 220v=3,256 watts,the guy takes a current reading.
The ground in my opinion does not do anything, simply a trick to convince you its related to Tesla stuff.
Pay close attention to the two spark plugs no arc coming from them,whats a Tesla with no arc,LOL ;D.
As far as I can tell there is no hidden wire,so the next trick would be hidden batteries
and a dc to 220v inverter,the size of the inverter rules this out,max power 3,256 watts
for a 12 volt dc battery,the current draw would be 271 amps,I'm assuming a 100% conversion rate
for arguments sake,in reality,the current would be much higher.There is no room in the box for a large inverter or
battery that can deliver this amount of current.In my opinion the coil is a very important
part of the device,this is where the current is generated,notice two wires are tied together on the output white coil,in parallel to increase current.My opinion is the current is not generated in an ordinary way but in a completely different manner,this is why its very hard to figure out,you have to look at all the various devices Kapandaze has made. Check it out and discuss it,skeptics,how did he do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9VhcDZYKg
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 01:07:46 PM
Hi Cheappower2012. Good to see you contributing to this thread. I agree with most you wrote, other than there not being a hidden / 'hot' wire(s) powering the device. The hidden wire(s) in the video you posted is most likely routed through the wall into and through the channel section of one of the foot arms on the fan. Look closely. Until a more plausible explanation can be put forward, I'll stick with this one.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 05, 2018, 01:49:15 PM

Here is another of Kapanadze's devices,the ground wire can not be  two wires Hoppy,
the fan that he uses operates at 220vac ,50 Hz so the output has to be 220 vac, 50hz.
At the max power it draws 14.8 amps times 220v=3,256 watts,the guy takes a current reading.
The ground in my opinion does not do anything, simply a trick to convince you its related to Tesla stuff.
Pay close attention to the two spark plugs no arc coming from them,whats a Tesla with no arc,LOL ;D.
As far as I can tell there is no hidden wire,so the next trick would be hidden batteries
and a dc to 220v inverter,the size of the inverter rules this out,max power 3,256 watts
for a 12 volt dc battery,the current draw would be 271 amps,I'm assuming a 100% conversion rate
for arguments sake,in reality,the current would be much higher.There is no room in the box for a large inverter or
battery that can deliver this amount of current.In my opinion the coil is a very important
part of the device,this is where the current is generated,notice two wires are tied together on the output white coil,in parallel to increase current.My opinion is the current is not generated in an ordinary way but in a completely different manner,this is why its very hard to figure out,you have to look at all the various devices Kapandaze has made. Check it out and discuss it,skeptics,how did he do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9VhcDZYKg
Ah a window sales man,  No spark ! BS whats that Zzzzzzzt and a spark at 1538 ???
Notice the Tesla coil and the TV tripper just behind it for high voltage to the Tesla coil
now look at the Tesla coil it self it's filled with something, and the end high voltage wire is dead thin, one would expect
a really high voltage ark there, but that coil must be resonating at a low frequency with it's length. The spark plugs limit
the high voltage and other things (EV Grey Tube).
I expect the black box on the left is filled with some sort of storage capacitors or is control.

Wesley what is the PCB to the right of the BLACK BOX it appears to have rows and rows of devices, can you comment on it pleas i'm curious ;)

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 02:24:33 PM
Ah a window sales man

Regards
That's not very kind to call Kapanadze a window salesman just because he uses a lot of glass to house his devices.  ;)
The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 05, 2018, 02:34:58 PM

The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.

Or as i read somewhere he is using the PLL part of the TV board
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 02:43:33 PM
Or as i read somewhere he is using the PLL part of the TV board
Possibly but that would not add up to his statement along the lines that the device is is so simple you'll laugh.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: cheappower2012 on August 05, 2018, 02:56:40 PM
Hoppy
You are correct,on the possible hidden wire being run thru the wall.
You would only have to drill thru the concrete a small hole that leads
behind the wall
and place the fan leg to cover it,then connect thru the fans plug.
The only weakness is how smart is the guy that's paying
Kapanadze,is he a fool.A more believable demo would have been
connecting the heater only
close to the device and lifting the device up.I believe that there
 are government agencies that
do grab devices that are real but will only act if there's a good
chance that the device is real,with kapanadze its always maybe its real or maybe its fake
its never a certainty one way or another.This video is from 2015 so he must have burned this guy and
moved on to the next victim One thing kills me,lol,when there's talk about
resonating at much higher frequency than 50 Hz, people forget all of Kapanadaze,s devices operate
 at 50 Hz not higher frequencies.This does point to two conclusions one its a hidden wire in all cases or
its a brand new method of generating current that's unknown.

In my opinion only the white coil and the black box, is the device,there is a much larger battery hidden,its used to start the device,the 9 volt battery
does not start the device its used to activate a relay,that switches the larger battery.Remember in the 2005 device it took a lot of current to start the device.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 05, 2018, 02:59:08 PM
Possibly but that would not add up to his statement along the lines that the device is is so simple you'll laugh.


Hoppy,
The problem is we don't know which statements are for real.
This means we it can be a "Yes"or a "No"....

On the other hand.."the device is so simple you'll laugh"...  is probablt only valid when its working on the bench in front of you.
Until that,...  looking how much years and how many qualified people have been busy with it,.........  it seems not so simple at all...

Alsi don t forget,... PLL may be a device to gain more efficiency,... holding the synchroisation process fixed.
As it would be working without PLL  more parameters will have bad effect on stability...  (f.i.    Our Nick "Chaotic effect")

Question would be,...  When a PLL is used...  what would it control?       


Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 05, 2018, 03:02:20 PM
That's not very kind to call Kapanadze a window salesman just because he uses a lot of glass to house his devices.  ;)
The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.
Phase locked to the earths resonance (timing) that's not too difficult. You need about 10kv but no flying sparks
just pulsed, just static. possibly regulated.

Notice spark at 15.38 into video
Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 03:29:51 PM
Hoppy
You are correct,on the possible hidden wire being run thru the wall.
You would only have to drill thru the concrete a small hole that leads
behind the wall
and place the fan leg to cover it,then connect thru the fans plug.

In my opinion only the white coil and the black box, is the device,there is a much larger battery hidden,its used to start the device,the 9 volt battery
does not start the device its used to activate a relay,that switches the larger battery.Remember in the 2005 device it took a lot of current to start the device.
No large battery needed with a hidden 'hot-wire'.
Look closer at the gap between the fan leg and the wall.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 03:39:47 PM

Notice spark at 15.38 into video
Regards

Kapanadze could have produced sparks just for eye candy. They signify or prove nothing until the rest of the device is properly understood.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 04:06:07 PM
My dear Hoppy .
the two grounds controversy:
Think about it as not important. Just not important for time being.
And After you  have done it  and wake up very next day than you can come back to your reality  whatever you feel comfortable with.
Just do it for yourself.

Wesley
Wesley,
I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. As Cheappower 2012 correctly points out, these devices are powering their loads at 50Hz, so I see no reason to believe that HV or HF is necessarily required for operation. I respect that you are trying to be helpful but with respect, some of your posts are just coming over as riddles to me at the moment.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 05, 2018, 04:13:15 PM
And again we passed another chapter 8) ;D ;D ;D

Hidden batteries/ additional power sources

Does this last post from Hoppy ends the Kapanadze discussion?

Well until we see no proof from Ruslans demonstration (open field/ BMW X5) i guess that one would be legimit?
Or not?

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 04:43:13 PM

Well until we see no proof from Ruslans demonstration (open field/ BMW X5) i guess that one would be legimit?
Or not?

Greetings
What with a battery buried under a pile of straw as in his last video but concealled more carefully this time!  ::)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 05, 2018, 04:46:16 PM
What with a battery buried under a pile of straw as in his last video but concealled more carefully this time!  ::)

Dammn Hoppy,

Your so good,... and do you know what is worst about it....

I m almost gonna believe you


i realy hope you are same so good thinking in the other direction ;) :P
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 04:52:40 PM

i realy hope you are same so good thinking in the other direction ;) :P
Which direction Apecore??  ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 05, 2018, 05:05:36 PM
Which direction Apecore??  ;)


Well,..... 180 degrees opposite..

The one without hidden batterie or external power sources.

Your direction leads us at the end of the road,...  no project obligation/ goals to believe in....  it would be catastrophic for all those guys here ending up at the bench..

So please help us to find some light in this dark tunnel,..  in order to skip this batterie/ hidden power chapter :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 05:28:24 PM

Well,..... 180 degrees opposite..

The one without hidden batterie or external power sources.

Your direction leads us at the end of the road,...  no project obligation/ goals to believe in....  it would be catastrophic for all those guys here ending up at the bench..

So please help us to find some light in this dark tunnel,..  in order to skip this batterie/ hidden power chapter :o
I'll do my best if and when I find my compass.  ;D In the meantime lets hope that Wesley can shed more light into that dark tunnel.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 05, 2018, 05:38:47 PM
What with a battery buried under a pile of straw as in his last video but concealled more carefully this time!  ::)
Ha Ha! battery's would explode with that kind of current.

Under stood ? when does he do that (stand under it?) i missed that bit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 05:49:20 PM
Ha Ha! battery's would explode with that kind of current.

??? What kind of current?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 05, 2018, 06:01:21 PM
??? What kind of current?
14.7 at 240 Volt = 3528 Watts
 3528 / 12 = 294 + conversion at 25% loss approx = 367.5 Amps

they might handle it for 15 Secs but the gassing would be horrendous after that
once it started you would need a blower, Have you ever seen battery's in a Telephone exchange ?  ;D they would
be huge !!

Now suppose we have 10kv how many amps would that be ? about 2.5 amps for 25000 Watts ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 06:08:19 PM
14.7 at 240 Volt = 3528 Watts
 
??? How did you come up with 14.7A at 240V!? Did he measure the load current and voltage in the forest video?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on August 05, 2018, 06:35:51 PM
For those who repeatedly claim to exist batteries or network phase line in such devices,
a productive approach to understand if there is a real point’s in these circuits demonstrations, would be try replicate the same effects demonstrated in the videos, even using batteries or phase line of the grid.
It would be a much better exercise than speculating about their veracity.
Just speculate, it does not seem a good exercise to find any answer that leads to clarification about the subject.
Let us agree that we need more than speculation to counter these demonstrations.
A good test would be, someone try demonstrate at least a 100W load like a resistive bulb or something similar, so the argument would be sustainable, to state that exist  hidden batteries or phase line of the grid.
Do not you agree that it will be easier?
Otherwise they are just talk of the trick of guessing and nothing else.


Cheers

Nelson Rocha

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 07:12:03 PM
Nelson,
What effects are you referring to? In terms of V & I measurements and waveforms, other than some 'iffy' clamp meter readings in the Kapanadze garden videos, to my knowledge, these have only ever been displayed at the bench using bench power supplies or batteries to power the devices.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on August 05, 2018, 07:20:33 PM
Nelson,
What effects are you referring to? In terms of V & I measurements and waveforms, other than some 'iffy' clamp meter readings in the Kapanadze garden videos, to my knowledge, these have only ever been displayed at the bench using bench power supplies or batteries to power the devices.


Hoppy,

What effects i'm referring ? I am referring to the loads used in the devices of TK or Ruslan .Is not this the topic of discussion?
How they can power such loads ,we can verify that there are several resistive loads, such as lamps, heaters etc.
What I said, is that they should try to replicate something identical, even with batteries, or phase of the grid.
I hope I have been clear now.

cheers


Nelson  Rocha
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 07:54:54 PM
Nelson,
IMO your proposal will not help to determine beyond reasonable doubt that Ruslan's or Kapanadze's devices are genuine or faked.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on August 05, 2018, 08:26:08 PM
Nelson,
IMO your proposal will not help to determine beyond reasonable doubt that Ruslan's or Kapanadze devices are genuine or faked.

Why do you say this ?Are you contradicting yourself?
The speculation you make about use a battery does not either help . how you know is fake ?

In other hand , if someone could reproduce the sames actions of their videos(TK , Ruslan) in the same conditions , maybe will be more easy and assertive say that could be a fake.

Do you agree ? Otherwize seems we are chase witches, as in the time of the Inquisition.
The loads used in videos of TK  apparently could not be drive by batteries .....  like AG refer .  is much load to be provide by a battery .

Now exist other chance , :) maybe TK knows how to use the existing energy even of a small battery to amplify the output, and then we are already talking about another situation. ;)
The problem is that type of systems could have a lot of aspects and approaches that make more difficult understand how they works, and use the argument that only could be fake , raises another question:
Are you or anyone else able to reproduce the same "fake" system? ups  after all this years no one did that.
maybe i could dedicate a bit time to this device .

Cheers


Nelson Rocha 
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 05, 2018, 10:11:30 PM
Why do you say this ?Are you contradicting yourself?

Cheers

Nelson Rocha
Not at all! As I commented in my post to Wesley - I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked self-runners until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. I don't have proof these devices are faked any more than I and others have proof they are genuine. Feel free to demonstrate a fake self-runner if you think it might help.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on August 06, 2018, 01:02:49 AM
Not at all! As I commented in my post to Wesley - I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked self-runners until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. I don't have proof these devices are faked any more than I and others have proof they are genuine. Feel free to demonstrate a fake self-runner if you think it might help.
Curious see your position in relation to the subject of topic , but yes you have right ,you dont have proof that is fake , only a suposition . :)

Cheers

Nelson Rocha
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 06, 2018, 02:10:44 AM
Curious see your position in relation to the subject of topic , but yes you have right ,you dont have proof that is fake , only a suposition . :)

Cheers

Nelson Rocha
Watch this carefully !!   Tesla coil with no charge caps or spark gap in our Ruslan device, and with the device circuit in the video NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!!

Note in the video the device might not exactly be tuned to 1/4 wave in his example but we are just looking at the difference of using charge caps
and a spark gap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8lGmibGVY

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on August 06, 2018, 02:28:58 AM
Watch this carefully !!   Tesla coil with no charge caps or spark gap, and with NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8lGmibGVY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY8lGmibGVY)
What are you talking about? That "Tesla Coil" in that video has both a spark cap and improvised charge caps. But the builder didn't quite manage to get things right, and his coil doesn't seem to be working as a quarter-wave resonator yet.

Here's my hybrid Tesla Coil, using a similar Royer oscillator driven TV flyback transformer for the HV power supply, running on 24 VDC input, still in tuning stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfW6tT3cQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfW6tT3cQA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk)

NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 06, 2018, 08:46:20 AM
What are you talking about? That "Tesla Coil" in that video has both a spark cap and improvised charge caps. But the builder didn't quite manage to get things right, and his coil doesn't seem to be working as a quarter-wave resonator yet.

Here's my hybrid Tesla Coil, using a similar Royer oscillator driven TV flyback transformer for the HV power supply, running on 24 VDC input, still in tuning stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfW6tT3cQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsfW6tT3cQA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIZClhoU2Xk)

NOTICE THE DIFFERENCE!!
Hi Mr Tinsel !  Well as I see it The Ruslan Katcher has a lot of design problems.

1 as you point out it's not 1/4 wave  2 it has no charge capacitor tuning 3 no spark gap control and 4 the wave form is a sine wave.

Tinselkoala If you would like to contribute your expert-ease into the katcher circuit redesign to make use of using a EARTH magnification from the
earths resonance similar to the Don Smith circuit  be my guest!  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 06, 2018, 10:31:45 AM
@ Apecore,
I have been thinking about the next chapter.  ;) Maybe we should try and answer Wesley's question to us, that is: "Think about  all possible ways of earth being charged."

I'll kick it off by suggesting that we install some grounded lightning conductors in the vicinity of where we wish to experiment.  :D 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 06, 2018, 01:14:42 PM

I'll kick it off by suggesting that we install some grounded lightning conductors in the vicinity of where we wish to experiment.  :D

Good morning Hoppy.

Your post reminded me of something that a.King21 spoke about when his team went to visit Tariel Kapanadse and the " Aquarium " demonstration.

The demonstration was postponed on one occasion because of an imminent electric storm in the vicinity.

Relevant??

The real versus fake discussion will continue indefinitely until " someone " " somewhere " proves otherwise. Let the friendly " banter " continue.

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 06, 2018, 02:41:26 PM
Hi everyone,
I not gonna go in endless discussion but merely need to mention 2 pointers acquired for competent member-
1)Did anyone even bothered to know frequency of the kapanadze coil which the voltage from the multilayered output coil peaks upon applying sine-wave from function generator at the input coil.For this Air core-Peak starts from 750khz but really go up to around 1.0xxMhz
And many of you thought the air-core was efficient at 17khz....32khz.
2)Frequency acceleration can only be achieve at around 1.7..1.8Mhz depending on winding.But i am very sorry to say most of you will likely failed because this kapanadze coil only accept extremely tighttolerance like +-10khz from say 1.7xMhz else the high frequency from the output coil with 100nf capacitor with load will revert back to waveform that isn't fixed.I have not even go into the position of the pulse to apply yet.

I am using mica capacitor to generate stable frequency in Mhz which i can tune although this will not be in line with the tesla coil resonance with Antenna.The other method is to use AM ferrite rod to slowly lower frequency of the conventional tesla coil circuit until output appears to be running 8x times of input at 80khz for my case which is far from ideal and no ou."Base on previous old experiment".

Forgot to mention the L/C resonance is was at30khz with 100nf with 3layer input coil for the old version.But this winding needs to be reduced to 1layer and capacitor changed to approx 2.xxuf xxxVolts in order to achieve the similar resonance.After which frequency needs to be divided by 3 using 4017 as seen in Akula block diagram.May apply part(Front end only) of old Ruslan pll circuit using LM393N with below10resistor from the feedback coil after the 3 turn.
If my calculation are correct and to plan the accelerated frequency which was at 80khz for 10khz parametric oscillation will be raised to a higher towards 1Mhz."Electron accelerator device".

Not forgetting to mention google  translation have improved a little more since the last translation was done for me /us by former member MenofFather as typed from Akula old video on Kapanadze coil tuning with the said circuit which was freely circulated.It will be useful to have dual monitor to see the difference in translation.Please use google translation to translate attach pdf document.
I will not waste my energy to get involve in discussion unless your pointer is really applicable to this device eg:Russian forum progress or are they more lost then we are.Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Think about it- it's getting hotter in almost every part of Europe and Asia countries.From cnn just saw that the carbon emission is the worst in 800,000 years as taken from soil samples.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 06, 2018, 02:44:00 PM
Good morning Hoppy.

Your post reminded me of something that a.King21 spoke about when his team went to visit Tariel Kapanadse and the " Aquarium " demonstration.

The demonstration was postponed on one occasion because of an imminent electric storm in the vicinity.

Relevant??

The real versus fake discussion will continue indefinitely until " someone " " somewhere " proves otherwise. Let the friendly " banter " continue.

Cheers Grum.
Afternoon Grum,
Yes, relevant indeed in my opinion if we take the view that Kapanadze's devices are genuine. I highlighted A.King21's comment way back when I suggested that Kapanadze might have been using an aeriel wire energy collector. Putting the clues together, I see a picture emerging where the ground is highly charged in an area, possibly by use of grounded lightning conductors. The potential difference between the charged ground area and the device is then used as Wesley shows in his past video for "lazy folk  ;D ": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be&t=474 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be&t=474)
As I see this, a considerable potential difference is needed to supply enough earth current for transformation to a higher voltage at 50Hz resonance to run the type of loads seen in Kapanadze's videos. This would not be achievable in normal ground conditions. Couple this to the fact that Georgia is subjected to a fairly high level of electrical storms / charged atmosphere which may well provide the environmental conditions needed. Also, as you know, I have been insistent that I believe Kapanadze's bearded man was hiding a thick black cable in the coil he was holding, which could have been the second ground wire needed to support this mode of operation.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 06, 2018, 02:51:00 PM

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Think about it- it's getting hotter in almost every part of Europe and Asia countries.From cnn just saw that the carbon emission is the worst in 800,000 years as taken from soil samples.
Come to the UK Magpwr, its only up to around 32C here.  8)
Do you really think that Kapanadze used highly tuned and elaborate electronics for his devices?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 06, 2018, 03:35:18 PM
Come to the UK Magpwr, its only up to around 32C here.  8)
Do you really think that Kapanadze used highly tuned and elaborate electronics for his devices?
hi Hoppy,
I find it hard to believe UK is even hotter than Singapore which is usually typical 30c anytime of the year.But my country is located near the equator.
Unfortunately yes the tesla coil needs to be within +-10khz as tested else output frequency will never be higher than the input.The output will appear higher immediately once the tesla coil frequency is right.Fix frequency pulse using mica capacitor does have it's own advantages over conventional tesla coil circuit.Tesla coil voltage need not even be 10Kv to see effect around 4.5kv...6Kv is enough base on my environment humidity level of around 76%

The divide by 3 using 4017 or via CLC using microchip as shown in my old video is absolute important i have tried already up to divide by 6 but find that only divide by 3 works after (feedback coil to LM393N to single gate of 74HC14 to shape pulse to reduce slew) .
Forget resonance or tight coupling the Kapanadze coil needs to be given a chance to oscillate at it's frequency which is much higher.Either you use L/C meter then apply using online formula to obtain approx frequency at resonance which needs to be below  32khz.But i stick at around 30khz.
The old input winding we had come up sometime back which is around 2 or 3 layers is invalid since capacitor value would be below 1uf to achieve similar resonance for testing purpose before applying divide by 3.
Take note duty from output of 4017 isn't 50% duty.Which why the duty cycle of the red waveform appear wider as attached.This is the layout after 3 turns from coil to kapanadze i stick with.The NTC resistor shown in Akula circuit is a "negative temperature coefficient, which means that the resistance decreases with increasing temperature.".Start with around 4.....6 Ohms resistor will do as well base on hands on experiment.NTC or resistor needs to be connected as shown in circuit else no high frequency which will appear as nice sine-wave "I am not sure if it suppose to be this way.It's a near impossible feat if you thinking from book-if tesla coil frequency combined with parametric\random waveform at low frequency approx 10khz can create a new waveform which is of sine-wave"

But i am not following the Akula tesla coil circuit portion after the diode as circled.But this circuit of Akula will work as tested but fine tuning will be hard.Only ferrite rod tuning will be applicable.KT805A which i have purchased from ebay sometime ago works as well as a mosfet with trimmer/resistor for tesla coil circuit.I meant in terms of high voltage production from tesla coil.
I got to go.It's night i would need to exercise to burned excess energy and promote blood flow to me brains. :)
---------------------------------------------Last important note please use IGBT because it's a slow switching device and it's not sensitive to tesla coil frequency which is running in Mhz.Not forgetting the usual snubber circuit.This device have not failed me yet.Even tried expensive Silicon Carbide Mosfet twice rated up to 1.2kv even that failed.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 06, 2018, 03:55:02 PM
Side note:
Just heard from the organization that used to host Daniel Pomerleau's demonstrations for
the last several years, that Daniel Pomerleau died of a stroke on July 31, 2018 at the
age of 62. I was planning to try to get out and see one of his demonstrations this year,
if he held one, but the organization informed me that someone was making a documentary about him
earlier this year so they weren't sure when Daniel would be giving another demonstration, as
he was busy with the documentary people. There is a possibility that a documentary could be
released about him and what he did then, if they had time to film much before he passed away,
but it may be in French.

Daniel Pomerleau would apparently allow participants to bring their own meters/measurement equipment
to his demonstrations to make measurements on his demo setups, and you could bring in your
own electric devices such as radios or blenders or whatever, but not sure what he was able
to do with them, as I never saw one of his demonstrations. I was looking forward to attending one
of his demonstrations if I had the chance. Sad news.

Daniel Pomerleau - September 15, 1955 - July 31, 2018 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conferencesquebec.com%2Factivites%2Ftabid%2F451%2FarticleType%2FArticleView%2FarticleId%2F377%2F30-juillet-2018-Daniel-Pomerleau-nous-a-quitte.aspx&edit-text=)

Here's an old listing for one of Daniel Pomerlaeu's former demonstrations where they
were inviting technicians to bring in measurement equipment:
Free Energy With Daniel Pomerleau (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conferencesquebec.com%2Factivites%2Ftabid%2F451%2FarticleType%2FArticleView%2FarticleId%2F303%2F22-janvier-2017--Energie-libre-avec-Daniel-Pomerleau.aspx&sandbox=1)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 06, 2018, 06:17:30 PM
@ Apecore,
I have been thinking about the next chapter.  ;) Maybe we should try and answer Wesley's question to us, that is: "Think about  all possible ways of earth being charged."

I'll kick it off by suggesting that we install some grounded lightning conductors in the vicinity of where we wish to experiment.  :D

Well Hoppy,

Seems a good idea.
Just tell me your idea how and why, i guess you have some space in the garden like me?
Lets duplicate same dimnensions etc. So we get some data to analyse.
I have 40m x 20m avalable.

Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 06, 2018, 06:25:40 PM
Well Hoppy,

Seems a good idea.
Just tell me your idea how and why, i guess you have some space in the garden like me?
Lets duplicate same dimnensions etc. So we get some data to analyse.
I have 40m x 20m avalable.

Greetings
I think it prudent to first get the thumbs-up from Wesley, so as to not waste time and effort. Also, I would like to get other members ideas, which might be more practical. My available garden space is smaller at around 20m x 10m.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 06, 2018, 06:42:35 PM
Ok, I'm in too!

Another interesting experiment might be to send up a single conductor using one of these " new fangled "
drone thingies, and measure the actual voltage across a capacitor between aerial and a suitable ground rod?

Not suggesting doing this in a thunderstorm, I mean, Ben Franklin was one lucky b#~[^{d to not have been " Kentucky " fried, wasn't he?  :)

I discovered that with my own simple rod experiments both direction and distance played a part in the voltage seen between them.

Cheers Grum.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 06, 2018, 07:42:59 PM

I would hope those who try to Brand persons as supporters or ??due to geography ??
would try in this house ,[see Stefan's mission statement at forum headline]


Ramset,

You are right,...
I will not mix up politics and OU again


Greetings
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 06, 2018, 07:46:01 PM
Ok, I'm in too!

Another interesting experiment might be to send up a single conductor using one of these " new fangled "
drone thingies, and measure the actual voltage across a capacitor between aerial and a suitable ground rod?

Not suggesting doing this in a thunderstorm, I mean, Ben Franklin was one lucky b#~[^{d to not have been " Kentucky " fried, wasn't he?  :)

I discovered that with my own simple rod experiments both direction and distance played a part in the voltage seen between them.

Cheers Grum.
Yes, personal safety is a big issue here. I would favour experimenting in an open space such as as park or farmland where a field kit could be used to data record over a given period of time. It should then be easier to standardise on distances, earth rod depths and height of atmospheric collectors. A good laptop and suitable software should then complete the kit, together with say a helium filled ballon to lift the aerial wire to a given height within the countries regulations. Oh and don't forget to get permission from the park manager / farmer.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 07, 2018, 12:23:19 PM
Yes, personal safety is a big issue here. I would favour experimenting in an open space such as as park or farmland where a field kit could be used to data record over a given period of time. It should then be easier to standardise on distances, earth rod depths and height of atmospheric collectors. A good laptop and suitable software should then complete the kit, together with say a helium filled ballon to lift the aerial wire to a given height within the countries regulations. Oh and don't forget to get permission from the park manager / farmer.

Plauson already used and patented balloons with aluminium coating and zinc needles. Latter ones for ionization I believe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson

http://0049606.netsolhost.com/pdf/GB157263.pdf

pulling a cable up with a drone and collecting electricity has already being tested

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhXxSAv6rMg

Early German inventors also pulled "antennas" between mountain peeks and collected electricity
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 07, 2018, 12:58:12 PM

Thanks for the links Belfior, which I think suggests fairly conclusively that Kapanadze would need to have collected and stored copius amounts of atmospheric energy to run his devices. Kapanadze's devices appear to me to be based more along the lines of a grid derived power amplification system that Antanas is working on the other thread here (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/22680/). Nonetheless, earth wire point potential experiments (ref: Wesley's test point plan) might reveal an interesting anomaly that could start up that proverbial 'steam roller' effect.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 07, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
Perhaps reinventing the wheel in testing as it appears we are going appears to have brought Hoppy's skepticism out of the closet

But perhaps Sending Hoppy over to see Roma, Nelson, Ruslan and TK would be a better idea to find out what is realy involved

might be a better idea to obtain any advantage in truth and or hidden expensive maintenance might be involved or trickery.  ;D

Before we start playing round with special balloons systems or drones or even vintage car air ships floating around in the abyss!
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 07, 2018, 02:33:04 PM
Perhaps reinventing the wheel in testing as it appears we are going appears to have brought Hoppy's skepticism out of the closet

But perhaps Sending Hoppy over to see Roma, Nelson, Ruslan and TK would be a better idea to find out what is realy involved

might be a better idea to obtain any advantage in truth and or hidden expensive maintenance might be involved or trickery.  ;D

Before we start playing round with special balloons systems or drones or even vintage car air ships floating around in the abyss!
Nice idea Alien. You can act as my Sherpa to carry all the test kit and vials of antidote and of course a pile of my vintage car mags for me to read on the journey.  ;D ;D 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 07, 2018, 02:45:10 PM
Nice idea Alien. You can act as my Sherpa to carry all the test kit and vials of antidote and of course a pile of my vintage car mags for me to read on the journey.  ;D ;D 8)
We need results now !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3mA7nCTlco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ise8Mvzub4
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 07, 2018, 03:00:46 PM
We need results now !

Our theme tune for the project / our rally cry!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rEr (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDcoX7s6rE)

I intend to kick-off with the build below as shown in Wesley's 'lazy guys' video which suits me down to the ground (excuse the pun). I don't see that the trafo winding voltages are too critical, so I'm sure that most of us benchers can find a suitable one surplus to requirements.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 07, 2018, 07:16:19 PM
Good evening Hoppy.

I've just glanced at the schematic you've posted and, I hasten to add that I've not watched the video either.

Is that a connection between the earthy Neutral and a domestic water filled radiator, or a high frequency square wave?   ;) :)

Let's be honest here there's going to be some leakage voltage at 50 HZ  enough to do something.

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 07, 2018, 07:43:31 PM
Good evening Hoppy.

I've just glanced at the schematic you've posted and, I hasten to add that I've not watched the video either.

Is that a connection between the earthy Neutral and a domestic water filled radiator, or a high frequency square wave?   ;) :)

Let's be honest here there's going to be some leakage voltage at 50 HZ  enough to do something.

Cheers Grum.
Evening Grum,

Yes, indeed and there is of course some resistance in the pipework, so a voltage potential between the two earths. The question is, what does the resonant primary winding induce into the load winding.
An interesting statement from Ruslan in Wesley's last post: "So if we do cut the wire, and than, we do connect phase than we will have device working because we share the same common ground . got it!!" Also: "Every professional knows that system works  on 220V ( Europe)." What do you make of that Grum?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on August 07, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
Evening Grum,

Yes, indeed and there is of course some resistance in the pipework, so a voltage potential between the two earths. The question is, what does the resonant primary winding induce into the load winding.
An interesting statement from Ruslan in Wesley's last post: "So if we do cut the wire, and than, we do connect phase than we will have device working because we share the same common ground . got it!!" Also: "Every professional knows that system works  on 220V ( Europe)." What do you make of that Grum?

Bad translation from Wesley ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 07, 2018, 08:19:23 PM
Evening Hoppy.

Well,  Why not just put a plug on it ? :)

I've just noticed the back to back series connected electrolytic capacitors, not being really well up on electronics how or what value will be seen? Would the circuit become series resonant at 50 HZ?

Perhaps another way of reducing domestic electro smog?? Marginally brightening that dimly lit space perhaps?

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 07, 2018, 08:47:07 PM
Evening Hoppy.

Well,  Why not just put a plug on it ? :)

I've just noticed the back to back series connected electrolytic capacitors, not being really well up on electronics how or what value will be seen? Would the circuit become series resonant at 50 HZ?

Perhaps another way of reducing domestic electro smog?? Marginally brightening that dimly lit space perhaps?

Cheers Grum.
This series back-to-back connection allows the combination to work as an AC capacitor with a capacitance of 2200uF (C1 + C2) / 2 in this example. Not a very safe thing to do. However, the general idea is to create a series resonant circuit at 50Hz with the primary windings inductance, which in this example would be around 5mH.

Like the waveforms we have seen from Ruslan, it still all smells very fishy to me.

Good question about whether its an grid 'earthy neutral' or full earth connection. I'm assuming its the latter.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on August 07, 2018, 09:24:22 PM
From Nicks new/old Stiffler  thread today
https://overunity.com/17249/dr-ronald-stiffler-sec-technology/msg524651/#new (https://overunity.com/17249/dr-ronald-stiffler-sec-technology/msg524651/#new)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66KTJGlbKmM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66KTJGlbKmM)


  Stiffler quote
  Doing final check on the parts to be used in the loop distance test. There will be no single wire, test will be through the earth only.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 08, 2018, 01:31:51 AM
Sounds like the original tester had part of his garden or field was alkaline and the other half acidic  ;D ;D ;D

How about some tests on one wire pulsed Tesla coils and or BEMF as in relay coils  ask Nelson
I'm sure he can help.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 08, 2018, 01:41:41 AM
An interesting statement from Ruslan in Wesley's last post:
"So if we do cut the wire, and than, we do connect phase than we will have device working because we share the same common ground . got it!!"
Also: "Every professional knows that system works  on 220V ( Europe)." What do you make of that Grum?

Hi Hoppy. Ruslan is saying the same thing I have already pointed out here a couple of times, i.e.,
if you disconnect the the output from the grenade where it connects to the relay, and instead connect
the hot phase wire from the mains to the same point on the relay, then you can run the device from the mains.
(This will only work if your utility breaker/fuse box on your house or apartment doesn't have a GFI on the circuit being used).
So, just because the circuit may work when connecting the hot phase wire from the mains to that point, it may work
exactly the same when connecting the output wire from the grenade to that same point on the relay, if the grenade is
producing enough power, so it doesn't necessarily at all mean that Ruslan was using a hidden phase wire.

Hello Grumage:
The circuit from Romancorp which Wesley posted is questionable to me because it connects at one end to the mains neutral wire.
You would really want to test with two separate earth ground connections which are completely independent from the mains.


Wouldn't the joke be on all of us if Ruslan is like Daniel Pomerleau, and therefore only
Ruslan can get these devices of his to work due to some special innate ability. :)
(Just kidding.... I don't really think that is the case for Ruslan. :) )



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 08, 2018, 09:55:04 AM
Hi Hoppy. Ruslan is saying the same thing I have already pointed out here a couple of times, i.e.,
if you disconnect the the output from the grenade where it connects to the relay, and instead connect
the hot phase wire from the mains to the same point on the relay, then you can run the device from the mains.

That's all the more fishy then IMO.

Thanks for confirming the Romancorp device connection to grid neutral.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on August 08, 2018, 11:32:40 AM
Here is the reply to the Wesley's video by Ruslan 17 hours ago:

"Ruslan K

17 hours ago
Hello ! Now I'll write your comment. I did not cut any wires there. The man saw clearly how everything works. This essay about the wire - FEDERATION! Cut the wire from the relay that was on the coil. Any specialist understands that the system itself is 220 volts. Cut the wire from the coil, start the phase, then we have zero? And here is the result. The system starts because there is a phase. This is logical! Now I explain why he did it .... Panov decided to portray himself as a hero and lied to the whole world. he offered me 10,000 euros for this device. And I suggested a more interesting option, and not this junk. But Panov strongly demanded to sell to him this is not a stable and demo option. Now let's think, why should he? Everything simply and brilliantly surfaced. He buys it, says he does not work ... I go to him, he looks through what I'm doing and tells everyone the secret of the system, thinking it's all so simple. Yes ! Wesley, it's just everything, but for someone who understands what he does. Obviously not for the prat of Panov.
I clearly said that "carry and leave me" then take away. But he wanted to see to reveal all the secrets later. It's not about the money, but about the fact that I ditched 5 years of life for this study in this field. And I want like all normal people to make money on it. As well as you all !!! But Panov is a hero ... He told many why he started this fuss ... To distribute all my works without payment. They say that YOU are not all tormented .... Ay yayayay what Sergei well done, clever simple! But not here it was .... Adequate person immediately understand who is Panov and who is all ... who went after this bastard. Immediately surfaced a huge amount of tin and anger. Look what will happen if all these evil people give this ?! It will be a global catastrophe. We will destroy ourselves in a short time. This system really works and gives an unlimited amount of energy. But it can only be given to specialists."

Acca...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 12, 2018, 03:03:21 PM
onepower


Very good man. I agree 100%. The only reason why this technology is not as popular as heat pumps is GREED of those who earn so much money from fossil fuels. Unfortunately the competition of solar panels, heat pumps, wind generators and so on would make it even worse. If we do not start this technology and merge into existing renewable market it will never help humanity to save this planet. Only such technology which is available 24/7 and cheap enough for poor people along with eliminating fossil fuels and capturing CO2 from atmosphere can save this world. :-(   They had the opportunity in 2012 to change global situation but they do not care
http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Gerry-Vassilatos-Secrets-of-Cold-War-Technology.pdf

If your interested in experimenting your self Try reading from page 25 'Shock Waves' for at least the next 10 pages or so and ignoring
any negative input from any one on the tread.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on August 12, 2018, 03:23:02 PM
AG     ...after all these years ...
..........Homework assignments now?
how about translated versions for those who are not fluent ?
or Books on Tape for those of us who have sight issues
or maybe just an experiment which shows an anomaly would.................... be nice....
Homework now ??
maybe some suggestions ??

"turn to Page" XX?  for tomorrows test ??
on another note RE: FE
enuff with all this fancy wireless universe stuff .... they should bring a power cord to plug us into the sun [

 https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/parker-solar-probe (https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/parker-solar-probe)
editnow i see page suggestions above .....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 12, 2018, 05:35:57 PM
Hoppy
The patent shows a single ground connection to the bottom of the secondary which is induced by the primary. This is common practice in Tesla coils and known to increase the output power at the top load by anyone who has ever built a Tesla coil. Should we accuse them of stealing power from the grid?... well no that would be absurd.

In fact it does raise the potential for reasons even a child could understand. When a secondary coil is "not tied to ground" the number of free electrons which could move in the closed circuit is limited by the number of free electrons present in the circuit itself. However when a secondary coil "is tied to ground" it has a near unlimited number of free electrons which could move in the circuit because now it is tied to the planet Earth. It is a slight difference and very easy to overlook... in the first case the circuit is closed upon itself and in the second case it is attached to a fucking planet with a surface area of approximately 510 million square kilometers and a potential gradient rising by 100 volts per meter vertically.

It is strange is it not?, we are literally swimming in an incomprehensibly massive sea of energy, a universe seething with energy and the only thing on some peoples minds is their oblique obsession with burning fossil fuels to whirl some magnets past coils of wire and transmitting this energy along more wires.

No offense but your hypothesis that all these inventors are somehow stealing power from a man made grid of wires is so fucking absurd and offensive I don't even know where to begin. An infinite universe with no apparent end seething with energy on every level and the best you can possibly imagine with all neurons firing is that they must have been stealing power from a man made grid of wires?... you have zero credibility in my opinion.

I think if you look at Henry T Moray's first device it looks a lot like a crystal radio with two resonant coil circuits. He said in a interview that he noticed that there was no current coming from the ground, but current going into the ground through the load. So his starting circuit is a crystal radio setup to get some initial volts and then pumping that voltage up and into caps.

I do believe we live in a sea of energy. I think we just need to see the things that people take for granted and that are normally not considered important. Like if you have this Moray system and you pump the voltage up to what ever you want with joule thieves, voltage doublers or tesla coils and in thew circuit as the tesla secondary you have a ground&cap that is in resonance with L2. In my opinion that system in resonance has no resistance anymore and the cap charges instantly. Then you got charge inside a cap and making that flow is amps. Then discharge that cap through a spark to a new primary and step down to 12V and the rectify to DC.

There is no I or current in the capacitor charge equation, so in resonance there should be no impedance and the cap charges instantly or with miniscule current. so two "secrets" used in the device. Resonance and the "zero" impedance on the tank at resonance. If you load push&pulls at 50Hz per second and your cap charging circuit is doing 220kHz a second you got a lot of charge in the the cap bank to pull into amps.

Maybe I am wrong, but the energy is there and the answer is something simple like that. I hope I got some bench time at some point and I will test my theories out. I also post the results if I fail totally, so nobody has to waste that time all over again.

PS. If I charge a coil that is over an iron rod. Then I cut the power there will be a back-EMF spike. Can I divert that spike with diodes to a new coil that is over the same core in a way, that it aides the flux in the core? So get the flux from the initial charging of the first coil and then get a bonus flux from the BEMF spike? The BEMF coil would go around the core and into the ground. Does the negative spike even go to ground?

I am not an electrician so this negative spike has me confused. Should I think of it like pressure? First I apply positive pressure (voltage) to charge the coil and when I stop, the coil wants to keep the current going by using negative pressure like "sucking"? What we see is the voltage going negative (sucking effect) and the current still going in the same direction as before for a short time. So no matter if I use positive voltage or the BEMF it will still wants to ground, because it doesn't matter if positive pressure is pushing it to ground or if the coil is "sucking" the current through with negative voltage?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 12, 2018, 09:08:27 PM
Belfior
Quote
There is no I or current in the capacitor charge equation, so in resonance there should be no impedance and the cap charges instantly or with miniscule current. so two "secrets" used in the device. Resonance and the "zero" impedance on the tank at resonance. If you load push&pulls at 50Hz per second and your cap charging circuit is doing 220kHz a second you got a lot of charge in the the cap bank to pull into amps.

We should understand that the stuff that moves along a conductor is free electrons. The free electrons move about randomly until they feel an electro-motive-force which compels them to move along the conductor which we call an electric current. So to say a capacitor was charged with no current involved is to imply the capacitor was charged with electrons which never moved to charge the capacitor. Whenever an electron moves in any way this motion is considered an electric current, a current is motion.

Quote
I am not an electrician so this negative spike has me confused. Should I think of it like pressure? First I apply positive pressure (voltage) to charge the coil and when I stop, the coil wants to keep the current going by using negative pressure like "sucking"? What we see is the voltage going negative (sucking effect) and the current still going in the same direction as before for a short time. So no matter if I use positive voltage or the BEMF it will still wants to ground, because it doesn't matter if positive pressure is pushing it to ground or if the coil is "sucking" the current through with negative voltage?

I would suggest you read this until something makes sense...http://amasci.com/miscon/whatis.html
Hell read the whole damn website because until we have mastered the basics of what electricity is and how it works were basically wasting our time. Unfortunately the FE forums are full of misleading and confusing information peddled by many people who have no fucking idea what there talking about.

If you want to move forward master the basics... what is actually happening in reality?... why is it happening?... how do I change what normally happens and make it do something different?. Do you know why I visit the forums?, 99% of it is complete and utter BS however every now and then I read something which makes me think. It makes me question my own perception of how I think things work in reality. You know they say a man who changes his mind is somehow fickle or undecided yet I change my mind one hundred times a day. How can one presume to make progress if they have learned nothing new which has changed their mind?... Learning is change and change is progress. How can we say something has changed but nothing has changed not unlike thinking a capacitor can charge without electrons moving as an electron current to charge it?.

Rule #1... if we have not learned something new which has changed our mind, our perception of things as we thought we knew it then nothing has changed. It doesn't get more fucking obvious than that does it?.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 12, 2018, 10:26:25 PM
Belfior
We should understand that the stuff that moves along a conductor is free electrons. The free electrons move about randomly until they feel an electro-motive-force which compels them to move along the conductor which we call an electric current. So to say a capacitor was charged with no current involved is to imply the capacitor was charged with electrons which never moved to charge the capacitor. Whenever an electron moves in any way this motion is considered an electric current, a current is motion.

Thx for the site. I will read it.

Is it free electrons? Are there electrons? Do they move or are they in one spot as mass and their spin or other properties change, so that we interpret that as current or moving electrons? Is the energy actually outside the wire?

So are you actually telling it like it is, or are you telling me something that "was agreed on", which is a different thing?

Energy stored in a cap is CV^2/2. This tells me that current is no factor in that equation. So if the cap needs current to charge it means it has internal resistance. If current is needed it would be a factor in the equation. So obviously we don't have ideal capacitors, but what if you neutralize that resistance by using a resonant LC tank? How much charge can you get with just a HV source into that cap when in resonance? That charge will equal amps when you pull it out on the load side. If you get more charge into that cap than the load pulls then you can self loop.

I have seen lecturers take part capacitors. Grounding and connecting the plates together and rebuilding the cap. Once again the cap sparks when the plates are connected. So the charge was in the dielectric and not in the plates. So the "free electrons" were moved by current from +-plates to the glass dielectric?

From amasci site:

"What is electricity? This question is impossible to answer because the word "Electricity" has several contradictory meanings. These different meanings are incompatible, and the contradictions confuse everyone. If you don't understand electricity, you're not alone. Even teachers, engineers, and scientists have a hard time grasping the concept.

Obviously "electricity" cannot be several different things at the same time. Unfortunately we've defined the word Electricity in a crazy way. Because the word lacks one distinct meaning, we can never pin down the nature of electricity. In the end we're forced to declare that there's no such stuff as "electricity" at all! Here's a quick example to illustrate the problem."

So the problem with electricity seems to be that nobody understands it?

That is why I read the forums and read mostly the stuff that the crazy people write. Because we have been asking the wrong questions for about a hundred years now. Any breakthrough will come from the fringe areas if there is anything there to find. That unfortunately means that you go through a lot of bullshit, but every now and then you find a guy that has new ideas. Then you try to replicate and reproduce the effects.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on August 13, 2018, 02:08:18 AM
F.Y.I.

O.T. ?  Fun - Food for Thought - or a little of both  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeXcbvBPJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXeXcbvBPJw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9b0J29OzAU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9b0J29OzAU)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MDOerruD (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1MDOerruDU)
[Ver 2. outside of coil - battery/magnets => rotate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL0TRmprhEM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL0TRmprhEM)

Theory of operation - analysis!

FIN
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Thaelin on August 13, 2018, 06:33:12 AM
At least those work when you build them.  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 13, 2018, 03:45:48 PM
Hi Belfior. To say it as nicely as it can be said, the problem is you have no idea what you are talking about. :)
I would suggest doing actual experiments first so you can learn how things actually work in reality, then if
you eventually find something interesting in actual bench tests, you can then post about it here if you like. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on August 14, 2018, 05:06:05 AM
Patented,  ?   9564268
Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on August 14, 2018, 05:17:59 AM
and 20150102676
Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 14, 2018, 03:00:30 PM
Patented,  ?   9564268
Garry

Hi iflewmyown. Yes, it appears they were granted a patent, but, very strange, as it
appears they have patented a Tesla coil with only minor variations from from what Tesla
has done and already patented. How does a patent examiner go about approving a patent
on what is basically just a tesla coil? It looks interesting however in regards to their claims,
so I will read through it more when I get a chance.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 14, 2018, 03:24:46 PM
Hi iflewmyown. Yes, it appears they were granted a patent, but, very strange, as it
appears they have patented a Tesla coil with only minor variations from from what Tesla
has done and already patented. How does a patent examiner go about approving a patent
on what is basically just a tesla coil? It looks interesting however in regards to their claims,
so I will read through it more when I get a chance.
US20150102676 Patent.
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c2/73/cd/ed546d4872c866/US20150102676A1.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on August 14, 2018, 03:56:52 PM
related ?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.engineering.electrical/iGvb86LXMFA
Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 15, 2018, 12:00:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 15, 2018, 06:07:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE
https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/ (https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/)

Wesley dear chap, your absence is deafening.  ;) What's the latest on the Ruslan / Sergej saga?
Err Hoppy that circuit as it is wont work stuff is missing, enough stuff has been on here
to tell you you can't attract static with AC you would do better with an old TV eht coil or a perspex box full
of expanded polystyrene and a fan blowing it around, but don't dispose of it down the toilet you will never get rid of it !
 :) ;) :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on August 15, 2018, 09:53:13 PM
   There has been some discussion in this thread about using the electricity stored between the ionosphere and the ground. We are standing on one plate of a large capacitor, with our heads in the dielectric looking up at the other cap. plate.
I would like to tell a story which may relate to this. A couple years ago I built a Van de Graff generator in my shop. It stood about 5 ft. tall with an 18 in. ss ball on the top with teflon top roller. It was not a great performer giving 6 in. sparks to the knuckle or the 6 in. dia. ground ball. The shop it was in was I think important. The shop had concrete floor with 6 x 6 wire mesh embedded for reinforcement. The frame was mild steel down into the ground The outside walls were corrugated painted steel siding as was the roof. Inside was first a layer of 4 in. foam insulation over which were the internal walls of corrugated steel and ceiling of the same. The original purpose was to have the shop well insulated, airtight and the inside was bright white paint on the steel. My friend came over and was observing through the doorway and we decided to experiment with the machine to make longer sparks. The first thing we noticed was it would light most of the fluorescent bulbs on the ceiling when the power to them was shut off. Then when the ground ball on it’s cable was moved close it would jump away from the top ball when the spark happened with a small amount of force. I could feel myself being charged any time I was in the room with it running but usually would discharge myself on the top ball. Then I decided to see how far the spark could be made to jump if I stayed away and let the charge build. I switched it on and stood upright with my right arm and first knuckle extended about four feet from the top ball. My friend was in the doorway opposite of me with the machine between us. I could feel the charge build as usual so I just stood their waiting. All of a sudden a spark jumped from my hand to the top ball about four feet away. It felt like I had been kicked by a mule in the center of my chest and my arm was pushed back into my shoulder joint with a painful jolt. I caught my breath and used the foot switch to stop the generator. My chest and arm hurt for three days, the first day like a crush injury. My friend who had been around electrical experiments for years asked me how my ears were. The rest of me hurt so bad I hadn’t noticed my ears ringing. He said the spark sounded like I had fired a shot gun in the shop. I never heard it cause I hurt so bad.
Anyway, you can gather energy when you are standing inside of a capacitor, but be careful.
 
 
Wesley, if you think any of my posts here are off topic let me know or just delete them.

 
Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on August 15, 2018, 11:19:36 PM
Hoppy..

Quote https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/ (https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/)
end quote


Aliengrey
quote
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91e  E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE)Err Hoppy that circuit as it is wont work stuff is missing
end quote
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Just a note..I did speak with Luc about this fellow..he reminded me he worked hand in hand with him...and there was measurement error...
AG..perhaps you could tell what Bits were missing ??
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 16, 2018, 01:37:35 AM
Hoppy..

Quote https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/ (https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/)
end quote


Aliengrey
quote
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91e  E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE)Err Hoppy that circuit as it is wont work stuff is missing
end quote
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Just a note..I did speak with Luc about this fellow..he reminded me he worked hand in hand with him...and there was measurement error...
AG..perhaps you could tell what Bits were missing ??
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Oops not that one the other one Hoppy was talking about the one we are waiting for the third video form Wesley !

I spider wired the HexFET to a Tesla coil the gate goes no where so whats the point of the HexFET driver or the divider
circuit ? more questions than answers on that device.

This video could hold some valuable information if the iron wire part works.
quote https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/]https://overunity.com/17328/overunity-device-by-tanju-argun-moderated/[/url]
end quote
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on August 16, 2018, 04:02:47 AM
Is this property suitable for experiments?
1. buried 6000 pound copper steel evaporative cooler 120 ft. from 2.
2. 36 ft. long 16" dia. pipe buried vertical 9 ft. in ground
3. 180 ft.   4 #2 conductors buried in conduit
4. 8 ft. copper coated ground rod
5. steel framed, concrete floor, steel sided and roofed shop building


Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 01:44:08 PM
Wesley may not like it, but I am just going to make a few points that have already been pointed
out, but still seem to be ignored by some people. :)

From what I have seen, Kapanadze has always used just one earth ground connection (at a time).
Kapanadze has stated his device can work with no earth ground connection by replacing the earth
ground connection with a 'special circuit'.

Akula has demonstrated one of his early devices could self sustain itself and power one or two light
bulbs at the same time, with no earth ground connection at all.

Indications are that the principle behind their devices is not dependent on a potential difference
between two separate earth ground points at a distance from each other.

I agree that Kapanadze did not at all likely 'invent' his devices, as he wasn't trained in science and electronics.
It is much more likely that he got this information from somewhere else. Possibly it came from old Soviet era military
research, and somehow Kapanadze got his hands on some of this info. Just a guess, but still a lot more likely than
the premise of Kapanadze coming up with his devices on his own. :) Kapanadze also claimed (in the green box video demo
I beleive) that he once 'invented' a car or motor that could run only on water. Where does an architect come
up with this stuff? ;)

Wesley, the two earth ground connections devices may hold some promise, but do not appear to
be directly related to what Kapanadze, Daly, Akula, and Ruslan have done. Until someone can actually
demonstrate something out of the ordinary with these two earth ground connection setups, it is just another idea.
However, Frank Prentice did use at least two separate earth ground connections in his 1923 patent, so there may be
some real potential there with that approach (no pun intended :) )
Just my opinion.

Does the yellow house not have any connection to the mains. It has no electrical power?

All the best...

P.S. Barbosa and Leal's 'captor loop' devices appear to have just drawn their power from the mains,
and had a tendency to fool power meters because the current was not returned back to the mains
via the neutral wire, but by an earth ground connection. Because of this their claims are very questionable, 
(to anyone with at least a basic understanding of electrical systems anyway), and Barbosa and Leal have
stated they stopped all work on those devices back around Oct 2013 due to 'technical problems' .
I strongly suspect the 'technical problems' they were referring to is they finally realized the power was coming from
the mains. :) The Barbosa and Leal 'captor loop' devices were not at all credible devices IMO.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 02:35:02 PM
is it that difficult to understand guys?
for current to flow there must be closed  loop.
even one wire transmission using Avramienko fork  is A CLOSED LOOP.

Hi Wesley. It seems to be a common misconception that there must be a closed loop for current to flow.
When you look at AC circuits, things are not so clear cut at all.
Eddy currents in an iron core are one example of currents that can flow which do not return back to the
source in a closed loop.

At radio frequencies, an RF signal will very happily flow on a single wire without there being much return to the
source via capacitance between the wire and ground. In fact the RF signal generator could be run by batteries and
completely isolated from earth ground, and there will still be an rf current seen on a single wire connected to a single 
ended output of the generator. BTW, that in no way implies there must be free energy there however. The power is still coming
from the generator (under 'normal' circumstances anyway).

All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 17, 2018, 02:56:53 PM
The Question
So tell me what is  the other choice for current to flow in open circuit.?
And since you do not have an answer
than   two grounds / virtual grounds/ or any  other form of explanation  of how the circuit is closed
will  be valid  till proven  otherwise, some time in the far future  I assume.
;--------------------
Wesley
Ground to ground is one solution that might well  work as a closed loop some are not disputing (well i'm not)
and might well try it some time.

But is saying that there is also ground to ether (upper atmosphere static charge) our Lithuanian friends have
been exploiting by lowing the upper level with ones own artificial device.

Whats not clear is how to do it, most circuits that have appeared on here are AC attract / repel,I would have thought
by observation that DC would attract a better result !

Also Tesla talked about a killer EMF when switching a knife breaker 'ON' and 'OFF', Guys should think about the very aspect
find it and read it.
I don't want to appear secretive but guys need to learn the other side of what is deliberately ignored buy minions to
the dark side of controlled ignorance. We are the consciousness of the universe use it and learn, don't wast it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2018, 03:13:31 PM
Hi Wesley. It seems to be a common misconception that there must be a closed loop for current to flow.
When you look at AC circuits, things are not so clear cut at all.
Eddy currents in an iron core are one example of currents that can flow which do not return back to the
source in a closed loop.
At radio frequencies, an RF signal will very happily flow on a single wire without there being much return to the
source via capacitance between the wire and ground. In fact the RF signal generator could be run by batteries and
completely isolated from earth ground, and there will still be an rf current seen on a single wire connected to a single 
ended output of the generator. BTW, that in no way implies there must be free energy there however. The power is still coming
from the generator (under 'normal' circumstances anyway)

All the best...
.

Eddy Current only flows in close loop
Magnetic circuit is a closed path in which magnetic flux flows;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current

RF  signal ( electromagnetic  wave)  is carried by  photon and  has no current./ no mass./ it contains energy.  "RF" -( photon)  has momentum and, RF is  omnidirectional.
However RF has  pattern   based on Tx antenna characteristic. RF is seen as  "more than one photon" and it  is continuous in given time frame.
Photon  loses its energy when colliding with matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon)
The reminding energy of  RF  is detected and amplified by closed loop circuit  including  detector and resonance circuit mostly grounded (visibly)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 03:39:01 PM
.

Eddy Current only flows in close loop
Magnetic circuit is a closed path in which magnetic flux flows;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_flux)

RF  signal ( electromagnetic  wave)  is carried by  photon and  has no current./ no mass./ it contains energy.  "RF" -( photon)  has momentum and  is  omnidirectional. However it has  pattern   based on Tx antenna characteristic.
Photon  loses its energy when colliding with matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon
The reminding energy of  RF  is detected and amplified by closed loop circuit  including  detector and resonance circuit mostly grounded (visibly)

Wesley

Eddy currents do not have a *closed current path back to the source*, was my point there. :)
I am not talking about EM waves, I am talking about RF current on a single wire.

RF current will flow on a single wire that is an open circuit on the far end of the wire,
even though the capacitance from the wire to the generator ground can be very tiny.
Significant RF current can be induced on the single wire with little to no current return back to the generator's ground,
i.e., no significant closed current loop back to the generator 'ground'.  This still draws power from the generator however.

P.S. I realize that Eddy currents are considered to be losses because they couple back to the
generator as a degree of 'load' via the magnetic field. Likewise, RF current generated on a single wire
does 'normally' draw its power from the generator, but the capacitance between the generator and the wire
can be very small, so how it couples back to the generator and causes power consumption may be more through
reflected current. The reflected current is then dissipated in the power output stage of the generator. I am not
entirely sure that is the complete picture, but that may well be what essentially is happening there. AC circuits have
a lot more parameters to consider than basic closed loop DC circuits, is my point. It can sometimes not be so straight forward
at all to fully analyze AC circuits. :) My general point is that when people think about 'closed looped circuits', they
should not confuse DC circuits and AC circuits. Too often here people seem to confuse the two.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 04:35:50 PM
also a question on your mentioned remote location..
Do they use the Single wire Grid system there ,which is typical to some remote areas?.

Good question. I also asked Wesley whether the yellow house is connected to the power grid, or
whether it has no utility power at all, but so far Weslely did not answer.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 05:36:06 PM
Wesley is an "Earth" scientist ,and I do not take his claims in his field with a grain of salt..
I am personally quite excited about his experiments here and there association with a "possible" TK MO


Sure whatever works for you. :)
As I have already said, I have no problems at all with anyone doing any experimentation they want, so
I don't understand some of your comments.

Just FYI, someone having a background in physics or other sciences in no way at all necessarily means they
have good practical skills and knowledge with electrical and electronics circuits and measurements.
That is a whole different ball game. Make of that what you will. ;)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 17, 2018, 05:44:56 PM
Tariel included somethig tips in some video's. Search what he said what happen when you disconnect load from his devied
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 17, 2018, 05:56:24 PM
For Mr AlienGrey ....   ;)

https://youtu.be/JcPu4Ie47vA

I just watched the video again, I'd like to say that the voltmeter reading was incorrect. It was after finishing the video that I discovered my DMM had effectively died.

For Wesley....

https://youtu.be/MXPtdzhSdfw

This " curiosity " was interpreted as a capacitive form of resonance....

Cheers Graham.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 17, 2018, 06:20:52 PM
https://youtu.be/MXPtdzhSdfw
This " curiosity " was interpreted as a capacitive form of resonance....
Cheers Graham.

Hi Grumage. Very very nice!
An actual reasonably clear demonstration. I bow to you.  ;D

Yes, there could be different factors which cause that sort of effect.
Standing waves (cancellations and additions along the wire) on one or both of the wires going to the two grounds can
increase or decrease measured peak voltage. This is very dependent on the frequency being used and length of the wires and
the specific point on the wires where you are measuring, as with AC you will get standing waves on the wires. An increase in voltage
peaks in no way implies an increase in available power beyond what is being injected into the 'input' wire of course,
but it doesn't rule it out either.

Driving the input to one ground wire with a pulse waveform instead may give even more interesting results on the second 'return' ground wire. ;)
Nice job!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 17, 2018, 06:32:31 PM
For Mr AlienGrey ....   ;)

https://youtu.be/JcPu4Ie47vA

I just watched the video again, I'd like to say that the voltmeter reading was incorrect. It was after finishing the video that I discovered my DMM had effectively died.

For Wesley....

https://youtu.be/MXPtdzhSdfw

This " curiosity " was interpreted as a capacitive form of resonance....

Cheers Graham.
Grum Hi am I to understand you powered the pasture of field in the display with 250v mains ? and got a light bulb to light?
I don't suppose you tried just to read the voltage in the ground it self ?
If your interested I did see a BBC short film some time ago on BBC4 where the guy had an area where there were 2 lakes
one was from the sea and the other volcanic fresh water but acidic and both undrinkable he could light a car headlight bulb
with a bit of wire and a couple of cans between them. I didn't say it was impossible.

Also cable conductors are you aware it takes a rise time to pass current through and down a wire Tesla talked about this
but people ignore this little fact.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on August 17, 2018, 07:05:50 PM
Hi Guys, I'll do a two in one.

Mr Void.

Thanks, I've laid a foundation, the door is open for others to try pulses etc....

Mr AlienGrey.

No I didn't use my domestic supply as we're on a PME overhead distribution system. I used my 220 volt pure sine EPS which was totally isolated and also used two 3 foot Copper rods, equally isolated from my incoming supply.

Perhaps this video will answer your other question?   ;)

https://youtu.be/mRz3oTLicT4

Or how about this one?

https://youtu.be/x__NQOtrzf0

Cheers Graham.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
Eddy currents do not have a *closed current path back to the source*, was my point there. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current)

Picture from below :
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=505


 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2018, 08:18:09 PM
Wesley, what striking results did you get out there?
- 21V between the grounds
- Grounds response depends from orientation ( the lowest 11.7V)
- Amplification based  on  returning HV pulse back to  one of the grounds.
 upon sending 5000V impulse.
 
Wesley 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2018, 12:25:51 PM

 in article http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf (http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf)
it is mentioned 
Quote
Case 2: System Response to Sub-Harmonics with Three Phase to Ground Fault.
he highest of the is found at 12Hz
   
there is no circuit if there is no load.
there is no circuit if the load belongs to  not your  loop
there is no active circuit if your loop in test  is not connected to the phase
in my case there is no inductive load in circuit with phase.,and that condition is  expected for  sub-harmonic frequencies origination ( in my case)
in my case there is no three phase


In London You can have  CT1 powering 1 building only and next to it another CT2 powering another building
Both loops will never see each other right?

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 18, 2018, 12:56:55 PM
in article
it is mentioned     
there is no circuit if there is no load.
there is no circuit if the load belongs to  not your  loop
there is no  circuit if your loop in test  is not connected to the phase
in my case there is no inductive load in circuit with phase.
in my case there is no three phase
http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf (http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf)

In London You can have  CT1 powering 1 building only and next to it another CT2 powering another building
Both loops will never see each other right?

Wesley
Wesley,
Is it an SWER system? If it is then there is a power and voltage drop in each section.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 18, 2018, 01:05:33 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddy_current)
Picture from below :
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=505

 Wesley

Hi Wesley. You are still misunderstanding me, although I have already clarified the matter.
I was just pointing out that those currents do not form a closed current loop with the power source.
I don't think reasonably there is any way that what I am saying can be misunderstood.

Likewise the secondary winding on a transformer will have a current flowing on it between the secondary
winding's ends if connected together, but they do not form any sort of closed current loop back to the primary.
The secondary winding interacts with the primary via a magnetic field. This is all I am saying, and I think it should be
reasonably clear enough even to people who may have little understanding of electrical systems and electronics.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2018, 01:11:26 PM
Wesley,
Is it an SWER system? If it is then there is a power and voltage drop in each section.
No  I assume it is not.

 http://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses
 
Maybe you can accept  fact that most of measurement was made prior to re connection/ however
that should not matter if you read Loop explanation from above

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 18, 2018, 01:36:54 PM
"magnetic field" is perfectly valid as a description of either - both the magnetic flux density and the magnetic field density are examples of a magnetic field.
And just using "magnetic field" is a lot simpler
However  what you referring to :

density or field,

-and how Eddy current relates to your statement?
a changing magnetic field induces an electromagnetic force in a conductor.
but you have been referring to Eddy Currents, did not?
Correct me please
Wesley

Hi Wesley. Yes, and I have explained my point in detail already. :)
As I have said, I think what I have already stated was more than clear enough. :)
No worries at all if you still don't understand. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 18, 2018, 02:38:27 PM
A suggestion for anyone who is going to do these types of experiments,  if you don't at least have a
basic understanding about standing waves, I would suggest you read up on standing waves, and nodes and anti-nodes,
and have at least a basic understanding of these concepts as they apply to wires/transmission lines. 

Resonance is a special case of standing waves where the developed standing wave nodes and anti-nodes
will correspond closely with the ends of a wire or coil, or at fractional intervals along the wire or coil such as
at 1/4 wave or 1/2 wave intervals.

Something to consider:
Frank Prentice stated he operated at a frequency of around 500 kHz, and said his long wire between his two earth ground
points was about 0.5 miles long (0.8 km). The wavelength of 500 kHz is 600 meters (0.6 km) or about 0.4 miles. So Frank
Prentice had a distance of more than a full wavelength between his two earth ground connections. Prentice claimed to have
measured a COP of about 6 when powering a bank of light bulbs at the output of his receiving loop antenna. He used a sparkgap
at the far end of his long wire, and also used tuning capacitors to tune the long wire for exact resonance at the frequency of operation.

The wavelength for 14 Hz (if I didn't make an error)  is about 13,297 miles or 21,400 km. :)
The diameter of the earth at the equator is apparently about 12,500 km.
So, you have a problem. However in patent # US9564268, they claim (emphasis on the word claim) that coils tuned for resonance
at very low frequencies such as below 200 Hz, with a single earth ground connection point, can still take advantage of low frequency earth resonances.
That may possibly be a way to get around this very large wavelength problem. A possible step in the right direction. :)

How could this work? From what I recall of antenna theory, which is not extensive, a quarter wave resonating wire or coil has quarter wave resonance in the wire or coil,
and when connected to the earth through a ground connection, also creates a matching quarter wave resonant 'image' in the ground.
Essentially what this means from my understanding is we end up with the equivalent of a half wave resonant system, which is resonating both in the coil *and in the ground*
at the resonant frequency you are tuned to. You are forcing currents in the ground at your resonant operating frequency.
Tesla coils typically are operated at 1/4 wave resonance. Are you seeing the 'potential' and possible benefits now of Tesla's approach?
I believe Tesla was doing pretty much the exact same sort of thing with his magnifying transmitter experiments.

This is not at all to take away from any experiments with two earth grounds that anyone may want to try, I am just pointing out
some potential hurdles and how the tesla coil (really any quarter wave resonant coil) may get around these hurdles. Also, keep in mind that
Kapanadze said his system is based on Tesla's work, although whether it really is or not is anyone's guess.
Kapanadze's devices could possibly be based on a different principle.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 18, 2018, 03:19:18 PM
Wesley, Patent US20150102676A1 appears to still be in application review status.
These 'Earth Energies Inc' folks seem to be trying to get patents on Tesla's inventions which
Tesla already patented over a hundred years ago by making a few minor changes here and there
to what Tesla showed in his patents. They already succeeded in getting a patent granted for US9564268.
Now that to me is just not playing fair at all. :)

So many people are trying to make big bucks in this area by trying to lock things down with patents, which
in many cases seems to relate back to or just builds on things that have already been discovered and experimented
with by others in the past. Meanwhile the Earth is on a fast track towards disaster due to climate change.
If I find a way to make a working free energy device, I will try to find a good way to release it openly to the public,
with no patent applications at all. This would mean getting professors from universities or reputable science labs to certify
it as working as claimed first. First I have to build a working FE device however. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 18, 2018, 06:55:54 PM
Solarlab
Quote
If you were a good student or you just wanted to please your teacher, you probably heard this and said to
yourself, "OK, energy is the ability to do work." If you were a really good student with a desire to learn or a
really bad student with a desire to point out your teacher's intellectual shortcomings, you should have then
asked the next logical question. What is work?

If Energy is the ability to do work 
and Work is a Force acting over a Distance which is in fact motion
Then all Energy is motion

As Albert Einstein said, "nothing happens until something moves"... however he forgot to mention that everything everywhere is already in motion.

Now we have a dilemma because as we all know everything in the universe is already in perpetual motion on every level thus everything present everywhere is Energy. This is why we speak of the Conservation of Energy whereby Energy is neither created or destroyed only transformed. We have never created or produced Energy, what we have done is transform one kind of motion already present into a force acting over a distance acting on something which produced another form of motion.

The correct perspective is to understand that everything everywhere is already in incredible motion on every level. What we do is transform this motion producing a field of force which causes something else to move over a distance causing another form of motion. When I burn wood I excite the atoms and cause some molecules (hydrocarbons and O2) to become different molecules (CO2 and H2O). The Energy as the internal motion of the atoms in the material which is transformed then appears to excite atoms in the surrounding area as light and heat which are simply another form of Energy or motion. Nothing is created, nothing is destroyed, the motion is conserved and only the form of the motion has changed.

The correct perspective is to understand we are swimming in a sea of energy as motion everywhere in everything and there is no need to create or destroy anything. We only need to understand how to efficiently transform the Energy already present into the form we want. Strange isn't it... all we have to do is co-ordinate some of the motion already present within in a single piece of wire to produce a unidirectional force on some electrons and we can produce a usable electric current. It's so simple even a child could understand it and yet here we are. Barbarians swimming in a sea of energy still preoccupied with the adolescent notion that we need to burn everything. Rip it up, chop it down, bore your holes and suck it out then incinerate it... it's so fucking absurd it boggles the mind.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 18, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
http://www.scopetnm.com/test-and-measurements/earth-tester/earth-resistance-meter/mdt20kwe
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2018, 08:03:09 PM
http://www.scopetnm.com/test-and-measurements/earth-tester/earth-resistance-meter/mdt20kwe (http://www.scopetnm.com/test-and-measurements/earth-tester/earth-resistance-meter/mdt20kwe)
Thank You
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 19, 2018, 01:12:43 AM
I have already commented with my ideas on why the tesla coil approach might potentially be used to exploit Earth resonances.

Here are some of my thoughts on the RomanCorp approach which Wesley seems to be experimenting with.
This also appears to me to be a potentially viable approach to try to exploit Earth
resonant frequencies due to the series resonance approach which is used. This approach may
possibly be a fair bit simpler than playing around with Tesla coils.

Although Wesley hasn't provided a lot of specific details so far about how he is doing measurements, but
if I understood his appraoch so far, Wesley seems to me to be on the right track of applying a high voltage
pulse to one ground rod and monitoring for any response results on the other ground rod. Such an approach
should help to find any resonant responses from your ground rod system. If you can't use a high voltage pulse 
or HV pulse waveform to 'excite' one ground rod, then you can try just using a signal generator set to
a pulse waveform output, and sweep from very low frequency very slowly to higher frequencies as you
monitor for any resonant responses on the other ground rod. Take note of any resonant frequencies found.

Also take note that you may have to try moving one of your ground rods around to different locations
to look for a location that seems to give the best results, so you may well want to use a short ground spike
of some type which can easily be pulled out from the ground again as you test with different ground locations.
When you are testing for any resonant responses as described above, my recommendation would be to
use as short wire lengths as possible connected to each ground rod during this testing to help minimize
skewed results due to any resonant responses/standing waves on the connecting wires them self.

See the attached circuit drawing.
My drawing takes this circuit arrangement down to what I believe is its most basic form.
Notice that secondary winding L2 and C1 are in series. You may be wondering why not place C1
in parallel across L2 instead? The answer is that if C1 were in parallel to L2 instead of in
series to L2, at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1 there should be a high current bouncing
back and forth between L2 and C2, but there is not much current pumping action applied
to the ground 1 and ground 2 points. When L2 and C1 are arranged in series between ground 1 and
ground 2, you will now (potentially at least) have a current pumping action between ground 1 and ground 2
when operating at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1.

Let's say in the intial pulsing testing stage described above that, like Wesley, you appear to see a resonant
response at 7 Hz and/or 14 Hz or whatever frequencies. These would then be good choices to try as the
resonant frequency of the L2 and C1 combination. If your local mains power operates at 50 Hz or 60 Hz,
then that would probably be a good frequency to avoid. Let's say you are going to try with 14 Hz specifically.
You could then try using an off the shelf iron core transformer of a type shown in my drawing (two separate secondaries
with a reasonably high current rating). This might not be ideal, but should be an easy way to conduct initial testing without having to
fiddle around too much. Iron core transformers should probably work well enough at 14 Hz and 7 Hz,
I would guess. Also keep in mind that you will need to use low ESR capacitor(s) for C1. 

Well, that's my ideas on a simple way of how to go about testing with this sort of arrangement
for anyone who still may have been unsure about how to go about testing with this arangement.
Wesley may have other ideas than what I describe here. These are my own initial ideas. :)

Test with any circuit arrangements at your own risk. Make sure you understand how to work
safely with such equipment and circuit arrangements.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 19, 2018, 05:29:50 AM
I have already commented with my ideas on why the tesla coil approach might potentially be used to exploit Earth resonances.

Here are some of my thoughts on the RomanCorp approach which Wesley seems to be experimenting with.
This also appears to me to be a potentially viable approach to try to exploit Earth
resonant frequencies due to the series resonance approach which is used. This approach may
possibly be a fair bit simpler than playing around with Tesla coils.

Although Wesley hasn't provided a lot of specific details so far about how he is doing measurements, but
if I understood his appraoch so far, Wesley seems to me to be on the right track of applying a high voltage
pulse to one ground rod and monitoring for any response results on the other ground rod. Such an approach
should help to find any resonant responses from your ground rod system. If you can't use a high voltage pulse 
or HV pulse waveform to 'excite' one ground rod, then you can try just using a signal generator set to
a pulse waveform output, and sweep from very low frequency very slowly to higher frequencies as you
monitor for any resonant responses on the other ground rod. Take note of any resonant frequencies found.

Also take note that you may have to try moving one of your ground rods around to different locations
to look for a location that seems to give the best results, so you may well want to use a short ground spike
of some type which can easily be pulled out from the ground again as you test with different ground locations.
When you are testing for any resonant responses as described above, my recommendation would be to
use as short wire lengths as possible connected to each ground rod during this testing to help minimize
skewed results due to any resonant responses/standing waves on the connecting wires them self.

See the attached circuit drawing.
My drawing takes this circuit arrangement down to what I believe is its most basic form.
Notice that secondary winding L2 and C1 are in series. You may be wondering why not place C1
in parallel across L2 instead? The answer is that if C1 were in parallel to L2 instead of in
series to L2, at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1 there should be a high current bouncing
back and forth between L2 and C2, but there is not much current pumping action applied
to the ground 1 and ground 2 points. When L2 and C1 are arranged in series between ground 1 and
ground 2, you will now (potentially at least) have a current pumping action between ground 1 and ground 2
when operating at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1.

Let's say in the intial pulsing testing stage described above that, like Wesley, you appear to see a resonant
response at 7 Hz and/or 14 Hz or whatever frequencies. These would then be good choices to try as the
resonant frequency of the L2 and C1 combination. If your local mains power operates at 50 Hz or 60 Hz,
then that would probably be a good frequency to avoid. Let's say you are going to try with 14 Hz specifically.
You could then try using an off the shelf iron core transformer of a type shown in my drawing (two separate secondaries
with a reasonably high current rating). This might not be ideal, but should be an easy way to conduct initial testing without having to
fiddle around too much. Iron core transformers should probably work well enough at 14 Hz and 7 Hz,
I would guess. Also keep in mind that you will need to use low ESR capacitor(s) for C1. 

Well, that's my ideas on a simple way of how to go about testing with this sort of arrangement
for anyone who still may have been unsure about how to go about testing with this arangement.
Wesley may have other ideas than what I describe here. These are my own initial ideas. :)

Test with any circuit arrangements at your own risk. Make sure you understand how to work
safely with such equipment and circuit arrangements.
hi void,
I'm surprised to see members and key person is going back to the basics.But i have no issue about it.
The answer you are looking for is already posted in my recent attachment RUS to Eng translation of Akula Telsa coil tuning pdf file.
What you guys are doing is already in line with Akula without realizing it yet.Akula did mention about you look for maximum "current" movement/returns   into/from Earth.So base from your circuit diagram referring to "output to load" will be seen as higher voltage because there is higher current returns from Earth in order to power the  transformer to load.
So long story short Akula did mention about getting best returns base on kapanadze device after finding out 1.7..1.8Mhz did provide current returns after injecting various frequency to ground.



I have attached a simple Harmonics and Sub-Harmonics calculator from 7.83Hz or from 1.7Mhz.Once more for the third time.To make life simple
My only disadvantage as mentioned in the past is less than ideal working space and height(Far from ground) and stainless steel(316) water pipe providing one of the world cleanest water supply which you can drink directly from tap."Above WHO standards".
Key tips before commencing any project do execute all possible scenario in your head first while sleeping then on assembly day you will find it easy to execute all possible combination like a game of chess. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 19, 2018, 07:21:14 AM
Hi magpwr. Thanks for the comments.
Ok on your testing situation. Yes maybe not the greatest for grounded systems with HV.

I am actually not working on a Akula related device right now myself, or on Wesley's latest approach either. 
I commented on the other circuit because so far Wesley did not say too much about his own
intended testing approach. I just gave some of my ideas of how to do some initial testing with it.
People would have to experiment to see if it might have any potential if anyone is interested, and they may
have to experiment with their own variations as well.

I am working on something that is my own idea these days. I don't have a lot of time these days
for testing, so it is moving along slowly. If I find anything noteworthy, I may make a simple demo video.
I don't really like making videos so much however, but we'll see. :)

All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on August 19, 2018, 10:06:18 AM
I have already commented with my ideas on why the tesla coil approach might potentially be used to exploit Earth resonances.
...
This is not a complete solution. The coils and capacitor will create their own resonances. These resonances have nothing to do with the Earth.

If you want to explore - you need to create resonance processes with the help of a short pulse. Observe the resonance response is necessary on a non-inductive load.
Use fewer transformers and coils. The explosive mixture of a coil with a capacitance will not allow us to understand where the resonance is from the coils and where from the Earth itself.

The task is very difficult.
According to one member of the Matrix Forum, he had contacts with scientists in the past who were probing the Earth with short pulses. It seems nothing interesting for our topic.
Although, they had other purposes.

In addition, you can read something more professional.
For example, about an UWB underground radar. (UWB - Ultra Wide Band. Similar to "short pulses")
Another interesting direction is the collection of the accumulated charge in the air from the near-surface ionization of the Earth.
It looks like a process in lightning. Only microscopic lightning will come out of the earth - from the grass, bushes, trees. For example, within a radius of 1 kilometer. (In terms of environmental friendliness and safety, there are many open questions.)

But for this it is necessary to create by means of a pulse a large potential difference at a distance between earthing connections.
It is necessary to hard discharge the capacitor charged to 30 - 50 kilovolts by the load  having a resistance of several Ohms.

Air gaps are not exactly suitable, as they have more resistance.

It may be necessary to use high-voltage thyristors or powerful thyratrons for several thousand amperes per pulse.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 19, 2018, 11:00:14 AM
Hi Magpwr,
At my age, there is a danger of sleeping on the assembly line!  ;D
Ha ha so was Tesla still alive when you were born ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 19, 2018, 03:12:58 PM
That sounds about right to me. No good just tickling the ground.
What would that do since I*V=Watts.!
Electricity is like a train current takes time to getting going but passenger's just jump on
At random !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 19, 2018, 04:45:42 PM
This is not a complete solution. The coils and capacitor will create their own resonances. These resonances have nothing to do with the Earth.

Hi Sergh. Nowhere did I suggest that anything is a complete solution however.  :)
It is of course implied that the tesla coil would have to be operating on a frequency
that appears to provide a beneficial 'resonant response' from the earth ground connection, if you are trying
to exploit natural resonances or resonant responses in the ground. :)
 
A person would have to do some experimenting to look for any specific frequencies that appear to give a
'resonant response' from the ground. In my previous comment above, I gave some comments on how
a person might go about testing for that using two independent ground rods with short as possible
connecting wires to each ground rod. Chances are you will get better results if you can pulse the
'input' ground rod with higher voltage pulses, but, you never know, people may be able to get some
interesting results just using a pulse waveform from a signal generator.

All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 19, 2018, 07:35:12 PM
The voltage is all ready there the current has tof build up!
So how long would that take ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: GeoFusion on August 19, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Hi All :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBrx4O10XkI

Cheers~
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 20, 2018, 09:22:09 AM
Are we talking about a Tesla coil in radiant energy mode, as Tesla exployted!
Tinselect talked about BEMF at switch off. But what about swich on ?
Oh dosent it exist?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 20, 2018, 11:29:50 AM
Are we talking about a Tesla coil in radiant energy mode, as Tesla exployted!
Tinselect talked about BEMF at switch off. But what about swich on ?
Oh dosent it exist?

Hmm interesting... is there a bemf acting against the charging coil? There should be in my mind at least. There is some inertia to beat. I would like to see some bemf circuitry schematics
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 20, 2018, 11:34:33 AM
Well, perhaps there's a bit of translation loss here.

Anyone may do anything, that's true, but in order to draw conclusions, a real True Experiment should be performed.This involves a lot of brainwork before one starts twiddling dials and discharging caps and raising up earthworms.

So you need a testable hypothesis. Then you need to design experiments that actually test that hypothesis. Then you need to design control experiments so that you know what variables are actually influencing your results. Then you need to plan on doing your experiments enough times for statistically valid data to be gathered. Then you need to know how to analyze the data.


Often times in real academic research, the paper is written before any experimentation is actually performed, with the Data section using imaginary data and the Results/Conclusions written from both success and failure viewpoints. Then when the experiment is actually performed you just plug in the real data and massage the Conclusions part to match.


And one need not invoke the holy name of Tesla in vain. Just use the Scientific Method and you'll be fine.

Absolutely correct. This is the only way. Not just experimenting but also creating extraordinary eviden e. Not just measuring 20MHz RF with a DMM and claiming OU. First u need to claim the tests & results that would spoil your theory and then conduct them. Not just present ”proof” that it works. People like their idea so much sometimes the proof is just measurement errors...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 20, 2018, 01:35:21 PM
Hmm interesting... is there a bemf acting against the charging coil? There should be in my mind at least. There is some inertia to beat. I would like to see some bemf circuitry schematics
In Tesla interview on Google he talks about it but it's igored, Donald talks about a massive pulse
Of ENERGY!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 20, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
Hi,
Can anyone point me any link  where i can purchase RG-56/U cable online which is sold by the foot in order to create a stiff Antenna which is also 8000Volts rated.
Thanks.
In return i am able to show something that no one in this forum have seen before anywhere relating to frequency up-scaling  after cable is converted to a Antenna and coil for tesla coil.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 20, 2018, 06:17:10 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US690151A/en?oq=us20150102676 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US690151A/en?oq=us20150102676)
Quote
I have discovered that the south to north direction of the earth-current is maintained only when the plates: are of the same metal.
=====================================================
for these who are interested :
US20080191580A1  https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080191580A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080191580A1/en)
Example of active  above the  ground  positive counterbalance to  earth ground  utilizing telluric current



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 20, 2018, 06:28:59 PM
Can anyone point me any link  where i can purchase RG-56/U cable online which is sold by the foot in order to create a stiff Antenna which is also 8000Volts rated.

Hi magpwr. I don't know, but this company might be able to help you:
https://www.awcwire.com/part.aspx?partname=rg56
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 20, 2018, 06:58:20 PM
Hi,
Can anyone point me any link  where i can purchase RG-56/U cable online which is sold by the foot in order to create a stiff Antenna which is also 8000Volts rated.
Thanks.
In return i am able to show something that no one in this forum have seen before anywhere relating to frequency up-scaling  after cable is converted to a Antenna and coil for tesla coil.


You need HV  cable.
https://www.awcwire.com/producttoc.aspx?id=high-voltage-coax (https://www.awcwire.com/producttoc.aspx?id=high-voltage-coax)


http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/wa2ise-coaxial-cable.html (http://www.repeater-builder.com/antenna/wa2ise-coaxial-cable.html)
RG6U is only 600V


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 20, 2018, 07:03:46 PM
RG6U is only 600V

Hi Wesley. He was asking about RG-56/U, which is rated at 8000V.
I provided him a link to a company that sells it, but they might not sell it in really short lengths.
Magpwr would have to ask them.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 20, 2018, 07:27:24 PM
Hi Wesley. He was asking about RG-56/U, which is rated at 8000V.
I provided him a link to a company that sells it, but they might not sell it in really short lengths.
Magpwr would have to ask them.
They might be prepared to supply a short length as a sample.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 20, 2018, 07:38:46 PM
Hi Wesley. He was asking about RG-56/U, which is rated at 8000V.
I provided him a link to a company that sells it, but they might not sell it in really short lengths.
Magpwr would have to ask them.
https://www.spectrumaudio.com/belden-1855a-500-black-500-25awg-rg-56-u-wire/ (https://www.spectrumaudio.com/belden-1855a-500-black-500-25awg-rg-56-u-wire/)
300V only
https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/1855A_techdata.pdf

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 20, 2018, 09:41:43 PM
https://www.spectrumaudio.com/belden-1855a-500-black-500-25awg-rg-56-u-wire/ (https://www.spectrumaudio.com/belden-1855a-500-black-500-25awg-rg-56-u-wire/)
300V only
https://catalog.belden.com/techdata/EN/1855A_techdata.pdf
Wesley

Hi Wesley.   If you see the link I had previously posted to magpwr to AWC,
they list the type they sell as rated for 8000V, but the cable diameter is thick ---> 0.535 inches = 13.6 mm.
It may be too thick for magpwr's needs. There doesn't seem to be a lot of retail sources available for the
high voltage rated types of coax.

All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 20, 2018, 10:00:47 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4127804A/en?oq=us20150102676 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4127804A/en?oq=us20150102676)
this  is yet  another way to vary capacitance  .
If it is used  in conjunction with ..........https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg525072/#msg525072 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg525072/#msg525072)
than it will  replace capacitor 11.
However this patent is independent energy conversion unit :

Quote
Two inversely ganged variable capacitors having a common movable element varying the capacities such that when one capacitor is at maximum capacitance, the other is at minimum capacitance, have, after initially charging, a substantially constant contained or trapped charge distributed between the two capacitors. As the capacities of the capacitors are varied, a potential difference is developed between the fixed plate of one capacitor and the fixed plate of the other. When these two potential points are connected to a load, charge is transferred from one capacitor to the other as a current flow through the load. The total charge is not diminished, the energy supplied the load being the energy expanded on moving the movable charged plates. As the movable plates are moved in a cyclic manner an alternating current is provided to the load.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 20, 2018, 10:24:41 PM
us20150102676A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150102676A1/en?oq=us20150102676A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150102676A1/en?oq=us20150102676A1)
 the patent listed by me in https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg524989/#msg524989 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg524989/#msg524989)
contains scrambled pictures difficult to read.
I was encouraging you to study that patent

All of them can be employed in two ground system utilizing Telluric current as interacting  Factor.
 relation of ionosphere/  earth  wave-guide/ telluric current

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 21, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
Hi magpwr. I don't know, but this company might be able to help you:
https://www.awcwire.com/part.aspx?partname=rg56 (https://www.awcwire.com/part.aspx?partname=rg56)
hi void and stivep,
I am not sure what kind of coax cable Akula used for Antenna.But it would be nice to know.But i do notice there is a pattern related to coax cable with low Impedance say 48 or 50 Ohms does come with a thicker center copper core.This copper core looks like the only thing would allow the Antenna to stay in place.
I will try awcwire but the only thing i am not comfortable with is the RFQ part instead of the online Cart.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
This circuit i attached may be considered old news but new in many ways only after i explain.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Thaelin on August 22, 2018, 07:00:17 AM
  Not sure this will be of any help or even on topic. Delete if desired.  In my early 20's, I worked on  a ranch in Wyoming. Some of the time, I had to ride fence line as part of my job. On one occasion, the chap I was with decided to not heed protocol and just decided to grab onto both ends of a broken fence wire. It was early morning and things were wet as was his gloves. After considerable cussing and bitching, he connected the grounding wire. The resulting shock was substantial. It took him to his knees and left him shaking for a few minutes.
   I was told that this was a thing called ground potential. Later in life I learned the why and what about it. I was told it can be nothing to thousands of volts potential. May not be much current but then what the hell. A ground wire strung log distance and a buried radiator could have one hell of a difference of charge.

thay
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 22, 2018, 08:52:32 AM
  Not sure this will be of any help or even on topic. Delete if desired.  In my early 20's, I worked on  a ranch in Wyoming. Some of the time, I had to ride fence line as part of my job. On one occasion, the chap I was with decided to not heed protocol and just decided to grab onto both ends of a broken fence wire. It was early morning and things were wet as was his gloves. After considerable cussing and bitching, he connected the grounding wire. The resulting shock was substantial. It took him to his knees and left him shaking for a few minutes.
   I was told that this was a thing called ground potential. Later in life I learned the why and what about it. I was told it can be nothing to thousands of volts potential. May not be much current but then what the hell. A ground wire strung log distance and a buried radiator could have one hell of a difference of charge.

thay

Same thing with the natural gas pipeline. They are heavily grounded to avoid sparking. I think they still debate if the current is inducted from a changing or moving earth’s magneric field. The field is not very strong, but over hundreds of miles it accumulates.

My own WTF story is from my parents place. 4 car tyres piled up and the plastic hub caps on top of the pile. Caps had a round steel wire for fastening. My dad touched a hub cap and got shocked. He cursed and pulled away. He went back and touched a cap and was jolted again. Then he thought I had electrified the tyres and he got mad at me. We then inspected the tyres and found nothing. 4 tyres on wooden floor. You only got shocked from the hub caps. If you think about it it was 4 alloy rims insulated by the rubber. Then a plastic cap with a wire (antenna?) and you got an exfect
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 22, 2018, 04:41:04 PM
Same thing with the natural gas pipeline. They are heavily grounded to avoid sparking. I think they still debate if the current is inducted from a changing or moving earth’s magneric field. The field is not very strong, but over hundreds of miles it accumulates.

My own WTF story is from my parents place. 4 car tyres piled up and the plastic hub caps on top of the pile. Caps had a round steel wire for fastening. My dad touched a hub cap and got shocked. He cursed and pulled away. He went back and touched a cap and was jolted again. Then he thought I had electrified the tyres and he got mad at me. We then inspected the tires and found nothing. 4 tyres on wooden floor. You only got shocked from the hub caps. If you think about it it was 4 alloy rims insulated by the rubber. Then a plastic cap with a wire (antenna?) and you got an effect
I bet the fitter's name was Johnny  ;D Old houses didn't use copper pipes it was ether steel or lead, lead in the late 1890's copper wire was hard to find
If you talked to the old guys you would pick up useful information.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 22, 2018, 04:51:37 PM
hi void and stivep,
I am not sure what kind of coax cable Akula used for Antenna.But it would be nice to know.But i do notice there is a pattern related to coax cable with low Impedance say 48 or 50 Ohms does come with a thicker center copper core.This copper core looks like the only thing would allow the Antenna to stay in place.
I will try awcwire but the only thing i am not comfortable with is the RFQ part instead of the online Cart.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
This circuit i attached may be considered old news but new in many ways only after i explain.
When you get radiant energy going watch out if you haven't got over voltage protection it could damage the Mos-Fet
74hc 132 you need a good 6v suppressor like a 1N 5908 across it as it has been known to go back to the regulator as well, also Pic chips don't last long
with radiant, for warned for armed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on August 22, 2018, 07:32:19 PM
The magnetic field transducer of Andrey Melnichenko
English translated page: [[[*** English link modified - 01:30Z 23Aug18 ***]]]
https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija/366-transgenerator-magnitnogo-polya-andreya-melnichenko.html  (https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija/366-transgenerator-magnitnogo-polya-andreya-melnichenko.html)
Russian original page:
https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija/366-transgenerator-magnitnogo-polya-andreya-melnichenko.html (https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija/366-transgenerator-magnitnogo-polya-andreya-melnichenko.html)
Technomagic page (RU): https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija (https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 22, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
@ Solarlab

Magnesium how would you describe it with respect of the end game you seek? i'm getting confused with your hypothesis.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 23, 2018, 11:58:00 AM
Not magnesium MAGNETISUM ! it's my phone it alters words, i have had to use that as I have picked up so many trackers and treats
to my desk top 18 in total of here i presume now deleted.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 24, 2018, 11:27:17 AM
I think there is slight connection between this topic and Figura discovery . Both need very strong Field. This is the secret which lies on fundiation of every ou
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DreamThinkBuild on August 24, 2018, 02:56:46 PM
"How does the Tesla Transformer and associated, so called, Antenna helical coil interact with (influence) the Grenade Coil?"

Maybe there is a way to create a solid state flux/charge compression generator without the one shot energetic effect while minimizing the loss mechanisms.

Quote
"An investigation aimed at optimizing the integration between a capacitor based prime power source and flux-trapping helical flux compression generator (FT-HFCG) is presented. An FT-HFCG simulation code, previously benchmarked with single and multi-pitch generators, was employed to study the kilo-joule class explosive system for this purpose. The details of this effort, which include the optimization of the field coil and stator coupling, as well as an examination of the effect of field coil parameters on the system performance, will be described in this document. For the simulated parameter space, the choice of field coil configuration caused the system energy gain to vary by 300%, and the optimum field coil configuration was found to be a single Litz wire conductor that had an axial length which was approximately 60% of the stator axial length."

source: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Design-considerations-for-flux-trapping-helical-by-Young-Neuber/cce87fe5decead8c8ca43f35d785d378deb2ea32
Note: The zip file contains a pdf on flux compression generators it was 7k over the limit  ::) so I had to compress it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 25, 2018, 11:23:12 AM
”Driving a conductive surface already containing a magnetic field” sounds like small antennas being driven with small power to make them appear electronically bigger.

Read this in one paper that described how to make small antennas appear bigger than they  physically appear
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 25, 2018, 12:10:18 PM
”Driving a conductive surface already containing a magnetic field” sounds like small antennas being driven with small power to make them appear electronically bigger.

Read this in one paper that described how to make small antennas appear bigger than they  physically appear
Why would any one want to faff about with cultivating a magnetic field out side the ARadio field ???????
radio waves and magnetics < light speed  and Lenny baby's law :( :( :( :( :(
that's the difference in Radiant energy field.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 25, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
"How does the Tesla Transformer and associated, so called, Antenna helical coil interact with (influence) the Grenade Coil?"

Maybe there is a way to create a solid state flux/charge compression generator without the one shot energetic effect while minimizing the loss mechanisms.

source: https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Design-considerations-for-flux-trapping-helical-by-Young-Neuber/cce87fe5decead8c8ca43f35d785d378deb2ea32
Note: The zip file contains a pdf on flux compression generators it was 7k over the limit  ::) so I had to compress it.
try winding the thick wind the other way! and dump the mechanical switch  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on August 26, 2018, 04:19:46 AM
F.Y.I.

The GROUNDING question is explained well by Gorchilin at  http://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/?lang=en (http://gorchilin.com/articles/coil/?lang=en)

See Fig. 1.4 attached below - Left is the RLC coil model, Eqn (1); Right is the Long Line coil model, Eqn (2).
Now, with respect to the Grounding question;
 
compare the Right and Left models and the answer to grounding will become quite clear!


Quotes from Gorchilin's page: 
 
Note: *math equations shown in MathJax Equation Source - primitive but it's the only way
to even show equations here.

The lumped and distributed resonances in the inductor

 Hams and seekers of free energy, there are questions about the different types of resonance that we are here and will try to illuminate. The problem is what it is. Everyone knows that an inductor (hereinafter, simply coil) can be considered as concentrated, and as a long line. In the first case, the formula for determining the resonance will be performing classical Thompson formula:

              f = 1/2\pi\sqrt{L\,(C_l + C)}  (1)

where L  is the inductance of the coil,   C  is its own capacity, and  l is the external capacitance connected parallel to the coil.
In the second case, we consider the coil as a long line, where the wave takes some time to get from one end to the other. If this time is equal to the oscillation period of the oscillator, in a coil set the mode of the standing wave. In this case, the simplified formula would be:

             f = {c\,k \over l} (2)

where c  is the speed of light, k  is the deceleration rate, which, in General, depends on the material of the dielectric, and l  is the length of the winding wire in the coil. This formula is greatly simplified, since   is actually nonlinearly dependent on the length and winding pitch, coil diameter and material of the dielectric. A more accurate formula can be found in [1]. The differences in these two approaches are already visible at this stage, and we will demonstrate that there are many more.

     |   Since the real processes that occur in the coil, is little known, and we shall not stop.
     |  Consider the mathematical model which with sufficient accuracy describe these processes,
     |  and the results of such calculations can be seen on real devices.

Two models

Consider the direct asymmetric long line DL in figure 1.1, which is excited from a sinusoidal voltage source E1, through the inductor L1. Take her private for the case where DL fits in exactly half the wavelength. Thus, on its edges, we get the maximum current, and in the center of the maximum voltage. All measurements will be carried out at a load resistance R1, the value of which will choose a lot less the wave resistance of the line. For the manifestation of two independent processes it is also important that DL was as far away from earth.

For the mathematical model this means that if DL is to roll into a coil, its diameter will be much smaller this distance. In this case, the calculation of the line is about to produce by the formula (2), since the parasitic capacitance is practically nonexistent and work well with the classical formula of Telegraph equations.

  SEE ATTACHED DIAGRAM
 
If DL put in parallel to the capacitor C1 (Fig. 1.2), it will begin to work one process, almost do not affect the wave. It is obvious that in this case we are dealing with an oscillatory circuit, the inductance which is the inductance of the line segment DL. I.e. a second, independent model, which can be easily calculated by the classic formula of Thompson (1).

Now it is easy to imagine what happens if we turn this long line in a coil — slightly changes its own capacitance and inductance, and two of the process and will work almost independently from each other. By the way, in this case, the wave model is better to rely on more precise formula, presented in [1].

Why are these processes, and thus their models, are independent? Look at figure 1.4, which shows their equivalent circuits. DL is in the standing wave, and since R1 is much less than the wave resistance, wave — almost no losses (right). On the wave process capacity C1 does not render almost any influence, but it forms with the inductance DL RLC circuit, which in turn also works independently (left figure). Changing C1 also has no effect on the wave process, but completely changes the picture of the LC resonance.

According to the author, the independence of the processes due to their work in different reference systems. The assemblage point, or point of combining these two systems is the load R1.

For skeptics who believe that in the coil (or in a long line) can't go two independent processes at the same time, a simplified model (Fig. 1.3), which added another DC power source E2. It is bridged by a capacitor C2 to a lower internal resistance at high frequency. As you can see on R1 we get the constant offset from E2, and independent of the antinode of the current standing wave from E1.

The combination of the two models

 Next, we will focus on the DL of a rolled coil. This option is currently the best studied. Our great experimenters provided the data, which suggests that when combining two models, the resistance of R1 increases dramatically the amplitude of the signal that rightly can be compared with the increase of the quality factor. This becomes very clear if we consider two independent models: if the processes are combined, it really will be the addition of the amplitudes. Also, researchers say about "the toe" — the phenomenon in which the increasing amplitude is kept even if there is some frequency deviation oscillator. But we'll talk about it another time, but for now imagine a calculator that can find points of combining the two models. http://gorchilin.com/calculator/reactor?lang=en
 (http://gorchilin.com/calculator/reactor?lang=en)
In fairness it should be noted that for combining standing wave and LC resonance, working on the harmonics, all the same it is better to use a non-inductive winding DL. Then the wave process is almost unchanged, and focused resonance is easier. This type of winding the researchers called a "grenade" or "dumbbell".

*** See Gorchilin's page for a proper layout, diagram and notation of the equations.

FIN
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 26, 2018, 06:17:49 AM
Solarlab
good post... good to see some have not given up.

Quote
Ruslan K 1 year ago (edited) - "In that setup, I use Tesla's patent on the removal of radiant energy!
Charging capacitors radiant dumped through the transformer in the load. The primary is a lot of turns,
the secondary is short for creating a current in the transformer. The ring should be with good magnetic
permeability !!! Otherwise, there will be little return. There I got only 150 watts to take off.

In this quote is a clue most people miss and for the few that do see it generally makes absolutely no sense. One can have a primary with many turns and a secondary with fewer turns however the secondary induced voltage can be equal or greater than the primary voltage. I think Ruslan knows this and the fact he understands that a Tesla coil is not required and other geometries may be superior is significant in my opinion. I came to the same conclusion, Tesla coils are simply too long and this takes away from the desired effect.

It's kind of like a puzzle and nothing makes sense until first we recognize what the piece is and then later where it fits in the bigger picture. Think about that... what looks just like a transformer but obviously is not entirely a transformer? , a transformer which has turns of conductor but does not always follow the turns ratio rule?. How can this be?, it makes no sense and then the piece fell into place and I felt silly that it took so long to understand something so simple, so fundamental in every aspect of nature. It is not for everyone.

This is what I absolutely fucking love about this field of technology... it never gives you an inch. Intellectually it's always an uphill battle and nothing is ever as it seems because everything is always fluid, dynamic and always changing. I have this simple rule... if I have not learned something new today which has completely changed my mind about something I thought I knew yesterday then I have learned nothing.

To "learn", ie."Gain or acquire knowledge of or skill in (something) by study, experience, or being taught"
To be "taught"?, but what if the people who presume to teach me are fucking half-wits... what then?. what if a majority of society is degenerate and prone to false beliefs what then?. Thus true learning must always rely on logic, reason, reality and above all else proof and not marginalized by mere populists beliefs.

So there you have it my friend and if you want to move forward there is only one question which should occupy your thoughts from this moment on... how, when and why does the standard transformer turns ratio rule or action between two coils not apply?. Any fool can read a textbook or google the question and tell me why it must apply but that is not the question I am asking... I am asking when it does not apply? and that is a very different question which apparently few have the intelligence to answer.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 26, 2018, 01:07:48 PM
@Onepower
Solarlab
good post... good to see some have not given up.
==================================

why would any one bow to such disrespect on this tread ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 27, 2018, 04:49:59 PM
As has been stated by Wesley & others, OU is not achievable.It has nothing to do with the basics being wrong.


People state all sorts of things, but it doesn't mean they are correct. :)
'Over unity' is just a term which indicates that you measure more power out
across a load than the measured input power. In my opinion there is nothing
at all wrong with the term, since its meaning is clear. Using the term COP > 1
may be a more acceptable term to some people, but both indicate the same type of result.

Neither term alone indicates or limits where exactly the excess energy is coming from, only that excess energy
is apparent. Most people probably accept that the excess energy would have to be coming from somewhere however,
such as possibly 'outside the system', but if you are talking about energy coming from outside a system, in such a case you first
need to define the boundaries of your system.  Anyway, for me, it is not a big deal at all, since the meaning is clear in both cases.
You measure more output power than input power. Where the excess energy comes from would be dependent on each individual case.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on August 27, 2018, 04:59:40 PM
Does the system include the honking great FM radio station's transmitting antenna in Ruslan's backyard?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 27, 2018, 05:07:19 PM
Does the system include the honking great FM radio station's transmitting antenna in Ruslan's backyard?

Ha ha. What evidence do you have of such a thing?
I think Ruslan at least used to, and may still live in an apartment building.
His station has multiple transmitters covering large areas of the country, so I think the antennas would
not likely be in anyone's back yard (high power transmitters). :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on August 27, 2018, 05:12:50 PM
Does the system include the honking great FM radio station's transmitting antenna in Ruslan's backyard?

Or the generator in the bushes where ”the grouund is moist enough for good earthing”...

Also what I think Wesley is saying that you can produce usable electricity without paying taxes or companies from telluric currents. That is also fine by me. That would also mean these are produced by radiation from space to ionosphere and ground being the other plate.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 27, 2018, 05:21:50 PM
Ha ha Tinsel, you know very well that thats Ruslans daytime job!
There were no FM stations in the 30-40's
But Henry Moray used only  the desert, so now where do you stand, cactus land ?

Morey's notes describe other strange phenomenon like listening to remote conversations and an ad on device
that could suck energy from a focused point that he demonstrated using rats and mice that just left
a carbon carcass, thats telling us the device sucked energy from the environment.
That's how it worked what it did
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 27, 2018, 05:28:23 PM
Belfior
Quote
I agree Ruslan might be throwing people off deliberately. I think if the device is henuine the egfect is trivial to achieve. He wants to cash in before everybody has it.

From what I have seen and read Ruslan has not deliberately thrown anyone off and only provided as much information as he is willing to give. If we expect to be paid for our work then so should everyone else otherwise we are hypocrites by definition. Does Ruslan deserve to cash in on all his hard work?... well yes, obviously. No one else anywhere would expect any less.

Quote
People point me towards websites to go read i the basics. I think the reason we are still having trouble with OU is that it is the basics that we have that are wrong.

I don't think the basics are wrong only that we do not fully understand them and how they relate to one another. Logically, everything we do not understand cannot be inherently right or wrong... because we do not understand it.

Quote
My current bet is still resonant tank (so the cap charges instantly) and high farads. Then you got charge that rquals amps/s

A resonant tank circuit is simply an electron current sloshing back and forth between a coil and capacitor and all the laws which apply to every electron current are still in force. So the moment we try to conduct or induce energy away from the source we lose something as we all know. Force is the impetus which drives all motion and if there is more motion or energy present in the system then an extra force must also have been present. Otherwise we return back to the dark ages thinking something must have been created from nothing which is hardly an option in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 28, 2018, 04:39:09 AM
An analysis of single wire earth return (SWER)system for rural electrificationhttp://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses (http://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses)
When I went to grounding system  i was shocked to rediscover , again and again,  mistake made  even by very experienced electricians.
Most of us is looking  for  electrical properties of the ground and that is resistance
how  limited ..


So if your ***WBSA at  low low frequencies  1:200Hz ( or in Kapanadze 1kHz :20kHz)
 is placed right  next to  your far  away  grounding rod, and your ground  rod  has increased  LC than useful  voltage  at desired shape and frequency is
delivered  after 300ft ( 100m) at ratio explained     right  here.
 
1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXVVD8IiQc&t=13s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJXVVD8IiQc&t=13s)
   Please look  at very first 30 seconds of this video .
2. https://youtu.be/EH9VhcDZYKg?t=64 (https://youtu.be/EH9VhcDZYKg?t=64)

 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 28, 2018, 09:36:43 PM

Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency, which emphasizes the contrast to spatial frequency and angular frequency. The period is the duration of time of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the reciprocal of the frequency.
Motion means movement. Motion can also be defined as a continuous change in the position of an object. Each type of motion is controlled by a different type of force.
Pressure is explained  by classical mechanics as - continuous physical force exerted on or against an object by something in contact with it.
Voltage is electric potential difference, electric pressure or electric tension   explained by quantum  physics
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on August 29, 2018, 09:40:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI)

Dual grounds from the first Kapanadze video...

Acca..
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on August 29, 2018, 10:16:05 PM
 An Introduction to
 the Mysteries of Ground Radio
by Gerry Vassilatos
 
“specially placed telegraph and telephone lines operated for years without batteries at all. Station operators took this phenomenon for granted. Despite the "long dead and corroded Edison Cells", telegraph station operators continued the powerful exchange of "fat blue and sparking" signals for decades (Lehr).
Other researchers corroborated the fact that usable amounts of current could actually be derived from the ground, currents whose powerful displays permitted the elimination of battery cups and generators. The failure of all reductive electrical models to satisfactorily address these energetic characteristics became especially evident with the development of the "earth batteries", an outgrowth of these telegraphic observations (Bain, 1849). These simple material composites, made to be buried in earth, produced currents not explained through electrolytic action. Small buried earth batteries developed sufficient power to charge storage batteries. They were also employed to provide telegraphic (Bryan, Cerpaux, Dieckmann, Jacques, Bear), and later telephonic systems (Stubblefield, Strong, Brown, Tomkins, Lockwood) with uninterrupted operating power. Neither decomposing nor failing with months of buried use, the mysterious earth batteries contain an essential mystery which electrodynamic models cannot adequately explain.”
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/53/n01/Vassilatos_on_Ground_Radio.html (https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/53/n01/Vassilatos_on_Ground_Radio.html)
 
Acca..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 30, 2018, 12:54:00 AM
Wesley,
I can understand what you are thinking / driving at to a point but as I have already commented, I really have no evidence yet to cast an opinion on why Tariel needs a ground or whether he needs interaction. My gut feeling for what its worth, is that his devices if not faked, are not using aetheric or telluric energy but possibly some form of clever energy extraction through transmutation of matter. This would at least explain why successful replications have so far been elusive.
Tesla and Morey  found it could suck energy from the surroundings it's old hat once one reads the scripts ! Only the fiction writers write the mills and boon stuff here  ;D look on the Kernels (Tom Beardons web site) web page on This sick of pointing to it! Who invented the HF transistor Morey!

You'll have to start swimming or you'll sink like a log for the times they are a changing Bob Dylon

http://phils.com.au/moray.htm
http://www.cheniere.org/books/excalibur/moray.htm
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on August 30, 2018, 03:41:50 AM
Dual grounds from the first Kapanadze video...
Acca..

Hi Acca. It wasn't the first Kapanadze video, and it has long been established that
Kapanadze only used one ground at a time. From what I recall reading of that event, the potential investors
who attended the demo didn't trust that the outdoor water pipe ground didn't have a hidden power source connected to it,
so they asked Kapanadze to make a new ground connection point right in front of them while they were watching.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on August 30, 2018, 10:12:32 AM
Wesley,
Following on from my last post ref evidence, I have again posted, in my opinion an interesting video clip of the device you witnessed working in Tariel's garage. This rather strange looking earth 'wire' appears to have two separated conductors. Did you have the opportunity to very closely examine every inch of its length back to the grounding point?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 31, 2018, 10:37:51 AM
Do not be fooled. Ground is not required. We need source of special electrons, energetic ones which are here but dormant till cycled. Why dormant ? Because they do not belong to the circuit, and obviously they are more energetic then normal free electrons in metal. They are continuously INDUCED but invisible because we move at the same speed !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on August 31, 2018, 10:39:56 AM
Ground = metal  :P
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 31, 2018, 10:56:12 AM
Do not be fooled. Ground is not required. We need source of special electrons, energetic ones which are here but dormant till cycled. Why dormant ? Because they do not belong to the circuit, and obviously they are more energetic then normal free electrons in metal. They are continuously INDUCED but invisible because we move at the same speed !
not  cycled whats that ? do you mean charged, how to prove the paper hat ignorance exists, get rubber balloon coat with light metallic conductor connect fine wire to conductor about 200 ft fill balloon with hydrogen, hold earth end of balloon wire and let balloon go get electrifying free energy experience  ;D ;D ;D

https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/death-ray/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 31, 2018, 11:22:28 AM
Hi Hoppy. That's an interesting thing to say considering there is no evidence at all of any such thing. ;)  ;D
TK device is nothing like Roma or Ruslans device at all it works as a frequency voltage current amplifier
Have you seen the device on dragons den ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=YT60Nfj51fk

any way if you do it the TK way you need a pile of caps to store a cycle of energy in thats a lot of caps where are they?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on August 31, 2018, 05:38:12 PM
Look deeper.   ;D ;) ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=YT60Nfj51fk
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on September 01, 2018, 09:23:18 PM
Hoppy this might help why you don't under stand whats doing on, I hope it helps  :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZjNJy9RJks
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 02, 2018, 11:48:39 PM
http://teslaradio.com/pages/wireless_102.htm
this is very well made article at the level  worth to study.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on September 03, 2018, 12:39:42 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJylD7xpEiU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJylD7xpEiU)

first comment below the vid

Quote
ProfRaccoon (https://www.youtube.com/user/ProfRaccoon)vor 2 Jahren (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJylD7xpEiU&lc=Uggef8L4RM4oa3gCoAEC)Finally, an independent experimental proof for Tesla's claim about a fundamental electrical earth resonance of about 12 Hz.. E explained this is not a Schumann resonance frequency of the earth-ionosphere cavity,  so the 11.77 Hz signal might  pass through the earth itself,  such that the 'ground'  frequency of 11.77 Hz  is higher than the Schumann base resonance frequency of 7.83 Hz. Assuming the electric waves all have the speed of light, then the Tesla ground resonance wave length must be much shorter than the Schumann resonance wave length. This rules out as well, that the 11.77 frequency signal is  Zenneck's earth surface TEM wave, since one should expect the ground frequency of such a wave to be close to the Schumann resonance (the ionosphere height is small compared with earth radius). So this test is a strong indication for longitudinal electric waves that travel through the center of earth. The earth diameter is about 12756 Km (measured from equator to the equator), and taking this length as exactly one wavelength, gives a frequency of 11.76 Hz (if one assumes the signal has light speed c= 300.000 Km/s ). It is very convincing (with respect to the claim that 11.77 is a natural frequency and not a system frequency) that two totally different Tesla coil systems with much different dimensions and system parameters both work optimal in case the spark gap frequency is tuned to 11.77 Hz.  Great work, E!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 03, 2018, 01:26:08 AM
https://youtu.be/bBhVDcZwAls?t=223 (https://youtu.be/bBhVDcZwAls?t=223)
 This video starts from standing wave but it is worth to see it all.

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Some useful links for thinkers: (Earth NMR) and more of nuclear processes
https://www.utu.fi/en/units/sci/units/chemistry/research/mcca/Pages/Sub-pages%20of%20Functional%20Materials/Applied-NMR.aspx (https://www.utu.fi/en/units/sci/units/chemistry/research/mcca/Pages/Sub-pages%20of%20Functional%20Materials/Applied-NMR.aspx)
https://www.bruker.com/applications/chemical/analytical-chemistry/inorganic-chemistry.html (https://www.bruker.com/applications/chemical/analytical-chemistry/inorganic-chemistry.html)
http://www.process-nmr.com/nmr1.htm (http://www.process-nmr.com/nmr1.htm)
http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2014/08/19/nmr-using-earths-magnetic-field/ (http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2014/08/19/nmr-using-earths-magnetic-field/)
http://www.teslatech.info/ttevents/2018conf/2018ETCp09.pdf (http://www.teslatech.info/ttevents/2018conf/2018ETCp09.pdf)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_emission (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_emission)
http://www.jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/numasses.html (http://www.jupiterscientific.org/sciinfo/numasses.html) Neutrinos Have Mass for Sure
https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_do_resonance_peaks_occur_in_a_neutron_cross_section_spectrum (https://www.researchgate.net/post/Why_do_resonance_peaks_occur_in_a_neutron_cross_section_spectrum) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_neutron_decay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_neutron_decay)

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Electrical and Earth/ impedance
http://www.hvpower.co.nz/TechnicalLibrary/RE+DS/Petersen%20Coils%20%20Basic%20Principle%20and%20Application.pdf (http://www.hvpower.co.nz/TechnicalLibrary/RE+DS/Petersen%20Coils%20%20Basic%20Principle%20and%20Application.pdf)
https://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/68715/Petersen-Coil-and-Capacitive-Charge-Current (https://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/68715/Petersen-Coil-and-Capacitive-Charge-Current)
https://uk.megger.com/electrical-tester-contractor-edition/october-2015/demystifying-loop-testing (https://uk.megger.com/electrical-tester-contractor-edition/october-2015/demystifying-loop-testing)
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http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf (http://www.erlphase.com/downloads/application_notes/Understanding_Sub_Harmonics.pdf)
http://www.nlvocables.com/blog/?p=589 (http://www.nlvocables.com/blog/?p=589) Measuring Telluric Currents – First Trial
http://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses (http://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6061&context=masters_theses)
https://www.solacity.com/docs/Polyphaser/Ground%20impedance.PDF (https://www.solacity.com/docs/Polyphaser/Ground%20impedance.PDF)
https://www.nemasurge.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/grounding.pdf (https://www.nemasurge.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/grounding.pdf)


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http://rexresearch.com/barbosa/barbosa.htm (http://rexresearch.com/barbosa/barbosa.htm)  Nilson BARBOSA / Cleriston LEAL Earth Energy Generator
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c2/73/cd/ed546d4872c866/US20150102676A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/c2/73/cd/ed546d4872c866/US20150102676A1.pdf)  METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR EXTRACTING AND CONVEYING ELECTRICAL ENERGY FROM THE EARTH IONOSPHERE CAVITY
https://patents.google.com/patent/US1974483 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US1974483) Electrostatic motor
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asymmetrical capacitors and more
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040171929.pdf (https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040171929.pdf) Asymmetrical Capacitors for Propulsion
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2168167_Force_on_an_Asymmetric_Capacitor (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/2168167_Force_on_an_Asymmetric_Capacitor)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect)
https://youtu.be/09otx2Pfphw?t=2042 (https://youtu.be/09otx2Pfphw?t=2042)  Voltage multiplier ( I have two of  the units)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFssWFfFCFs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFssWFfFCFs) Big  electrostatic ASSEMBLY .
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Electrets:
https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2113048C/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2113048C/en)
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2008/JeffreyWong.shtml (https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2008/JeffreyWong.shtml)
http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0960-1317/19/9/094003 (http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0960-1317/19/9/094003)
http://aetherforce.com/electrets-permanent-electrical-magnets/ (http://aetherforce.com/electrets-permanent-electrical-magnets/)


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 The old scientist: ( Negative Resistance) subject:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldScientist/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheOldScientist/videos)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRp2nipT-S0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRp2nipT-S0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X43sKFfRts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X43sKFfRts) Stanley Meyer's Electron Extraction Okki Moeljadi
http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBteowmSN8g (http://www.analogzoo.com/2018/01/negative-impedance-converters/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBteowmSN8g) Lorenz Attractor - Physics 123 demo with Paul Horowitz
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheEngpjk/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheEngpjk/videos) Patrick Kelly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhVDcZwAls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBhVDcZwAls)  TheMage00000 (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9RuDKWbf05CEr6Ss7lWvUQ)
https://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/overunitydotcom/videos)  overunity.com

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Switching power supply:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLzcV9Sxt5Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLzcV9Sxt5Q) Switch Mode Power Supply Measurements and Analysis
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Simulation :(program tools)
https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/legacy/capacitor-lab (https://phet.colorado.edu/en/simulation/legacy/capacitor-lab)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on September 03, 2018, 01:46:30 PM
 :-\  wrong again, better read something like that https://www.andre-waser.ch/Publications/NikolaTeslasRadiationsAndCosmicRays.pdf or http://tesla3.com/paulo-and-alexandra-correa/
or even think about what Richard Willis said to Dragons
We are like bird on the HV line.

Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point of the universe. This idea is not novel. Men have been led to it long ago by instinct or reason; it has been expressed in many ways, and in many places, in the history of old and new. We find it in the delightful myth of Antaeus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among the subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians and in many hints and statements of thinkers of the present time. Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static or kinetic! If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic — and this we know it is, for certain — then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheelwork of nature.
What Tesla is saying is simple : if Earth magnetic field is static , induced once and never again then our hopes are in vain... but if this is a generator inducing and synchronizing our magnetosphere with external cosmic source then we can tap huge amount of energy easily and almost without cost. We can use it to catch CO2 from atmosphere , to stop pollution and burning fossil fuels and to make every people life a dream...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on September 03, 2018, 04:50:43 PM
   Forest:
   Some people may think that burning matter up (NMR) ,  is where it's at.
Although it can be "free" also, it's not what Tesla was after.
   While more nuclear plants are being built at this time, even though the one in Japan is still uncontrollable.
   Are we stupid, or just crazy? Or both... 

    Wesley:  Please show us a safe NMR generator. 
    Did you like getting sick, as you seem to like recommending poisonous solutions.

 
NickZ Hi i'm not Wesley no, your referring to a type of static  type of electricity (no magnetic charged current)
some call it radiant energy among other different other names. It draws energy from the environment or other things
or if not tuned can do other things which I wont discuss here, it's my guess you have no idea what i'm talking about
but it's another type of electricity that behaves so much unlike the conventional stuff we know. Are you sure that two
will ever be discussed on here?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 04, 2018, 04:06:01 AM
some of my files that I have made for myself.

Examples of NMR in Ferrite  replacement of metal compound in within the ferrite by ion 
caused by FREQUENCY
at the same time energy level of ferrite has changed. everything is done by changing frequency of oscillation.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022369771900369 (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0022369771900369)

Nuclear magnetic resonance studies of Mn55
in the Mn substituted hexagonal ferrite Ba2Zn2-xFe12-yMnx+yO22 
R. L. Streever, T. R. Aucoin and P. J. Caplan Institute for Exploratory Research, US Army Electronics Command, Fort Monmouth, N.J. 07703, U.S.A.
Received 22 December 1969. Available online 6 May 2004.
Abstract:
The nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) of 55Mn has been studied in single crystals of the planar hexagonal ferrite compound Ba2Zn2-xFe12-yMnx+yO22 for values of x + y of about 0·5.
The spin echo spectrum at 4·2°K shows a broad line extending from about 300 to 470 MHz which has been identified with Mn+3 ions (replacing iron) on octahedral sites and two relatively
narrow lines at 555 and 585 MHz which have been identified with Mn+2 ions (replacing zinc) on the two types of tetrahedral sites which occur in this structure.
Both Mn+2 lines are observed to shift to higher frequencies with externally applied fields which is consistent with this interpretation.
The Mn+3 lines have also been studied at 77°K and the Mn+2 lines in the range between 77 and 200°K.
The hyperfine fields and the temperature dependencies of the resonance frequencies for the Mn+2 ions on the two types of tetrahedral sites can be consistently explained in terms of the
different electronic environments of the two sites. It is concluded that a large percentage of the Mn ions in the compound are replacing Fe as Mn+3.

From the relative integrated intensities of the two Mn+2 lines, it is found that the Mn+2 ions are substituting onto the two types of tetrahedral sites with roughly equal preference.[/c]
US Army experimented in 1967 with NMR and Transmutation.
From text above we see results of it.
It is stated that mechanism  of transmutation and  replacement by other  inorganic substance  was achieved.
But that includes energy transfer, and that is what we are interested with.(Lithuania Experiment)
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Generation of metal–ligand cluster ion beams through pulsed discharge ionization and ablation 
Ansgar Brocka, David L Cedeñoa and Carlos Manzanares Ia, , (Carlos_Manzanares@baylor.edu)
a Department of Chemistry, Baylor University, Waco, TX 76798, USA
Received 10 November 1998;    accepted 30 July 1999.
Available online 28 February 2000. 
Quote
Abstract Pulsed capacitor discharge ionization in supersonic expansions was investigated for the production of intense beams of molecular cluster ions
from seeded and ablated compounds.
A pulsed discharge based on a triggered spark gap switch was designed and used as a method for ionization and ablation.
Several combinations of nozzle geometry and electrode arrangement in front of a pulsed valve, were made to optimize the intensity of the ion beam as well as its composition.
The cationic metal–ligand complexes Cu+–(methanol)n, Cu+–(acetone)n, Cu+–(toluene)n, Cu+–(water)n, and Al+–(water)n were synthesized by ablation of the metal from
metallic discharge electrodes in a discharge gas mixture of helium seeded with the ligand of choice.
The cluster mass spectra of the expanded plasmas show little background ion signal besides the metal–ligand species.
Charge exchange processes in the expansion guarantee high ionization yields of the desired species and account for low backgrounds.

Changes in the successive binding energy of Cu+–(water)n clusters n = 1–4 are clearly observed in the cluster mass spectra as step formation.
 A similar pattern found in Cu+–(acetone)n suggests the same trend in the successive binding energy as known for water.
Important is :
Quote
(phase, amplitude modulated) finite pulses run in parallel with all other events
https://kpervushin.wordpress.com/category/nmr-generator/ (https://kpervushin.wordpress.com/category/nmr-generator/) 
(Wesley: you do not need to  read this article)


This article is  interesting from perspective of spark gap and HV  involvement  in ionization that is frequently present in all of FE electrostatic devices,
by use of capacitor.

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http://www.phys.ufl.edu/REU/2009/reports/AntonioLorenzo.pdf (http://www.phys.ufl.edu/REU/2009/reports/AntonioLorenzo.pdf)
(Wesley: you do not need to  read this article)

APPLICATIONS -X-RAYS & NMR :
for me this is very interesting article about X-ray - means photons and  NMR but  this article is not for everyone

http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/super/life_sciences/AN/AN6.pdf (http://www.physics.usyd.edu.au/super/life_sciences/AN/AN6.pdf)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzmKgVnrP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBzmKgVnrP4)
Quote
Instead of the coil connected to PL259 (and affected by  two  other coils connected to modulator interacting with Earth Magnetic Field. -like in NMR ( one of the methods.
The second one is cryogenic.))
I have connected generator and I was modulating manually by frequency shift of   +/- one of then thousand of 1 HZ !!!!
I have got enormous  amplitude of interactive-resulting pick 10 times of amplitude of the primary signal.
Please look  at spectrum analyzer and correct me with lower window setting.I put that window as Frequency domain.
The upper one is analog.  Look at other parameters of that window
This was my video showing
strange impulses from generator ( mixer of two signals) made  by  CREATECH

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-36 (http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-36)  Russian  link  related to FE and NMR 9 that is similar to   setup used in my video  from  above. with CREATECH.
https://youtu.be/NBXMG72gfqs?list=PL42F201860665F11A&t=474 (https://youtu.be/NBXMG72gfqs?list=PL42F201860665F11A&t=474) interesting phenomenon in plasma.
http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm)  the old and much known
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 This PDF is for me very entertaining http://122.physics.ucdavis.edu/course/cosmology/sites/default/files/files/CW%20NMR/CWNMR012009.pdf (http://122.physics.ucdavis.edu/course/cosmology/sites/default/files/files/CW%20NMR/CWNMR012009.pdf)
 but you may disagree
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Plasma:
http://www.aetherometry.com/Patents/US5502354A1.pdf (http://www.aetherometry.com/Patents/US5502354A1.pdf)
http://aetherometry.com/Patents/US5449989A1.pdf (http://aetherometry.com/Patents/US5449989A1.pdf)
http://www.aetherometry.com/Patents/US5416391A1.pdf (http://www.aetherometry.com/Patents/US5416391A1.pdf)
\http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/correa/correa.htm)  opinion about Correa.
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/Archive/CorreasUSPAbstracts.html (http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/Archive/CorreasUSPAbstracts.html)   
Abstracts
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/aspden_opinion.php (http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/aspden_opinion.php) 


additional material  published by me at overunity.com
Lakhovsky Multiple Wave Oscillator original device http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRttn7xb0y8&feature=channel&list=UL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRttn7xb0y8&feature=channel&list=UL)


some links  posted by me in the past : (Wesley: you do not need to  read this articles)
Watch this: NMR in room temperature using Earth magnetic field. No Cryogenic!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRKAXD4dAg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aRKAXD4dAg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BED9aDEYw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2BED9aDEYw)
and this:
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/Archive/CorreasUSPAbstracts.html (http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/Archive/CorreasUSPAbstracts.html)
http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/aspden_opinion.php (http://www.aetherometry.com/Labofex_Plasma_Physics/aspden_opinion.php)
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%%2FPTO%%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4291255 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%%2FPTO%%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN%2F4291255) http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/meyernmr/meyer.htm)

 
additional material TESLA book:
http://nikolat.wikispaces.com/file/view/tesla-high-freq-coil.pdf (link does not work but can be found if needed) (http://nikolat.wikispaces.com/file/view/tesla-high-freq-coil.pdf)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mmcgen.htm)
http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla_Switch/D3.pdf (http://freenrg.info/TESLA/Tesla_Switch/D3.pdf)
http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/ (link does not work but info is on overunity) (http://www.overunity.com/4333/meyer-mace-isotopic-nmr-generator/)
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraform.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/paraform.htm)
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0296310 (http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0296310)
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0296308 (http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0296308)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2n1-nvo7d4&authuser=0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2n1-nvo7d4&authuser=0)
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 https://www.youtube.com/user/diggitydev/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/diggitydev/videos)  Doc Schuster videos


Wesley



 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on September 05, 2018, 11:51:16 AM
Hello everyone!
I've been looking at some old videos of Igor Moroz. First part  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFg9h_gGrFg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFg9h_gGrFg)  and second part   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpAuvTBCugs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpAuvTBCugs)  Basically, in second part, he is telling that he is returning same amount of energy to grid and in process using few hundred watts of light. He is using bifilar coil as the secondary in his transformer. So, the net consumption would be very little or nothing, frequency is grid frequency 50Hz. Looks very similar to Kapanadze.

Lost energy in close circuit could be recovered but not created . In this case the feedback of output power is injected again in system input .
Myself made some experiments about that point .
Example how could be possible recharge the same input source in same time . The video have 21 minutes is easy to see how much the input lower since start.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_eja4gmpcY&t=665s

https://youtu.be/Te7NcDY-afQ?t=35

 Nelson Rocha
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on September 06, 2018, 12:16:17 AM
Now,

concerning the video about Ohms Law broken with HV Negative Resistor ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRp2nipT-S0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRp2nipT-S0))

I found these two demonstrations of Fred B´s Tech Channel very interesting especially part 2 because of a good working sparg-gap simulation model. It clarified many questions I had:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8LYiLLpGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU8LYiLLpGs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7gPeIVVy0A

Mike


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on September 06, 2018, 07:17:07 PM
Wesley that long NMR post is really good as I have been a supporter of the "inter-atomic" model and it's NO theory..


Italians have discovered through audio ultrasonics cavitation that iron chloride goes nuclear in 2008, and since that


discovery I know that the same effect is responsible for the extra electrons in the yoke core ferrite radiation that you


have been exposed to that gave you that radiation sickness..  See low energy nuclear radiation..


As to members who post anti- free energy posts I always see these distractors as fools or spies who spend allot of


effort to stop any progress through the "dogmatic science" leverage ... and there is many here of such anti-free


energy efforts shills, spies and total nut jobs..


Keep on and God speed in your efforts..


Acca..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on September 07, 2018, 11:47:55 AM

"In L'Évolution de la Matière (1905), Le Bon anticipated the mass–energy equivalence, and in a 1922 letter to Albert Einstein complained about his lack of recognition. Einstein responded and conceded that a mass–energy equivalence had been proposed before him, but only the theory of relativity had cogently proved it.[36] Gaston Moch gave Le Bon credit for anticipating Einstein's theory of relativity.[37] In L'Évolution des Forces (1907), Le Bon prophesised the Atomic Age.[38][39] He wrote about "the manifestation of a new force—namely intra-atomic energy—which surpasses all others by its colossal magnitude," and stated that a scientist who discovered a way to dissociate rapidly one gram of any metal would "not witness the results of his experiments ... the explosion produced would be so formidable that his laboratory and all neighbouring houses, with their inhabitants, would be instantaneously pulverised."[40][41]"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on September 07, 2018, 04:26:35 PM
transmutation if any is a by-product !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on September 10, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
Ok. Theoretically is is simple. Let me explain. There is law of conservation of energy , true. However thee is no law of conservation of work done. In other words it's up to you how much work you can do with the amount of energy you have - mostly it depends on how good you can eliminate loses like friction.
So ? I think you start to see the picture. ...

Analogy to water. If you direct a stream of high pressure water into a still pool of water, there is more water moving than just the stream. Voltage we can just create.

Also you can create special situations where Nature will do the work for you.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on September 10, 2018, 03:56:47 PM
Hi Wesley,
Upon searching "ionization accelerates transmutation" gave me interesting results which you may find it interesting related to acceleration.
Nuclear tranmutation to Nuclear fission 1932...1939         **(Nothing to do with actual Nuclear around late 1920s)
https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=rk5uBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=ionization+accelerates+transmutation&source=bl&ots=OnWKIofSVO&sig=Ry9cTNZ_1myoQr5NUENVOVh5xQs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwio7svPt7DdAhWBNI8KHUBoC9gQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=ionization%20accelerates%20transmutation&f=false (https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=rk5uBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA55&lpg=PA55&dq=ionization+accelerates+transmutation&source=bl&ots=OnWKIofSVO&sig=Ry9cTNZ_1myoQr5NUENVOVh5xQs&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwio7svPt7DdAhWBNI8KHUBoC9gQ6AEwAXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=ionization%20accelerates%20transmutation&f=false)

The above is the early version way before NMR was mentioned anywhere. :)
---------------------------------------------------In the meantime completed improving my circuit to produce "ultra stable" interrupted frequency in Mhz for the tesla coil without the use
of mica capacitor for one of the 3 tesla coil driver embedded circuit,pulse generator.
Received parts to assemble the Antenna which i threw away sometime back along with tesla primary driving coil after failing to see OU.Accelerator with sine-wave 80khz will be shown once ready as it is before further modification to resolve existing "impedance issue".


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on September 14, 2018, 10:26:46 PM
SolarLab this things are in lack of "mathematical beauty"(this statement is important) as Dirac would say.

It goes like this:

first we have maxwell and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOBNo654pwQ

(can field exist without charge?)

then we have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_electromagnetism (wikipedia is not enough to explain R EM) and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TKSfAkWWN0

and in the end we have this (yes this is my question  that I've posted on stack exchange) https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/422300/electromagnetic-induction-causes-electron-wave-function-collapse-inside-atoms/422449#422449

there is something missing, can you feel it? if so then what is it? perhaps it's the lack of understanding of fundamentals or nature's mathematical beauty in our understanding.

"Everything that can be Invented has been Invented" ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on September 20, 2018, 01:36:59 PM
LENR has gotten Legs and is most definitely our future [thx To member Wavewatcher ]

https://cryptome.org/2018/09/This-Is-Not-Cold-Fusion.pdf (https://cryptome.org/2018/09/This-Is-Not-Cold-Fusion.pdf)
and since this is a good news day
DUNE ...the Neutrino project also got legs...
https://www.fnal.gov/pub/science/lbnf-dune/index.html (https://www.fnal.gov/pub/science/lbnf-dune/index.html)
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-------------Seems the first link won't open in some parts of the world  :'(
so WW made a PDF

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on September 23, 2018, 11:07:40 AM
I find this cherkunov guy a bit strange. If he is posting these antigrav videos why doesn’t go around the thing with a stick to show no wires? In one video he does,  but only goes in the front of the device. The plates are not level, but the device floats straight? What kinda force is that?

Antigravity was patented by tt brown already
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on September 23, 2018, 04:47:32 PM
and now for some Tesla technology from ....

  Here it is just for you Wesley …
 
it just goes to show you that this is a just a very strange WORLD …
 
It’s Tesla and very high voltage again it is juat SHOCKING that this stuff may be real.. Anti gravity…
And since it deals with TESLA type technology I am posting it here …
 
ACCA..
 
Alexey Chekurkov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzZxKT3BzBZOVVy8_YzP6Yw)
Published on Aug 18, 2018
Видео левитации диска. Желающих помочь в поддержке канала может последующему реквизиту. PayPal alex_a.v@mail.ru Payoneer alex_a.v@mail.ru
 
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBrx4O10XkI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBrx4O10XkI)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JrkOfqm6eY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JrkOfqm6eY)
hi Acca,
Interesting video with additional details shown.
I noticed the creator of this device is using spinning magnets maybe North,South,North,South,North,South mounted in a circular plate and combining with some kind of ionization from fly-back transformer.
It reminded me of a video seen sometime ago about "induction heating" of copper pipe using just spinning magnets on a circular metal maybe somewhat similar concept to a certain extent.
Definitely more efficient than a conventional induction heater since alternating magnets poles does the same thing for less energy.
Some of you may already know or heard about latest A/C motor technology with magnets strategically placed in rotor to increase motor efficiency by around ~20%.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------Back to current Kapanadze build -I think i have solved what Akula used for the Antenna by using Solid core wire.Since this is the only thing that holds the primary and Antenna nicely in place.I am left with Antenna mounting brackets to dry up (epoxy) before commencing testing then demo.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on September 23, 2018, 08:18:08 PM
Mag here in Poland there is a very large copper producer KGHM Copper. Some producers add zink to lower the cost of copper and other elements don't presume it's all the same copper wire..


Like Wesley has said isotopes of copper are many .. It may be the impurity that has an affect on the Russian Kapanadze device.. As of yet unknown ...A scientific method was not done here...


Variables are many it's like a combination lock as one adds to the depth of the tumblers in that, the chance to hit the right combination is in the orders of magnitude...randomness will not work trying to unlock that tumbler safe.


Complexity is in the state of mind as to an engineer looking at a suspension bridge it looks very simple to build and yet to an average man it is a hard thing to understand the complexity of individual parts...


As of yet that elusive effect in the " west " is missing.




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on September 23, 2018, 09:15:21 PM
Mag here in Poland there is a very large copper producer KGHM Copper. Some producers add zink to lower the cost of copper and other elements don't presume it's all the same copper wire..


Like Wesley has said isotopes of copper are many .. It may be the impurity that has an affect on the Russian Kapanadze device.. As of yet unknown ...A scientific method was not done here...


Variables are many it's like a combination lock as one adds to the depth of the tumblers in that, the chance to hit the right combination is in the orders of magnitude...randomness will not work trying to unlock that tumbler safe.


Complexity is in the state of mind as to an engineer looking at a suspension bridge it looks very simple to build and yet to an average man it is a hard thing to understand the complexity of individual parts...


As of yet that elusive effect in the " west " is missing.
Acca I don''t have a white coat  nor do I have a doctors degree but I have said and got ribbing back from many, perhaps this might help
it came from else where in this internet  youtube concerning different metals but i will say it again 'iron or steel, this metal the skin effect 'charged
partials are one of the slowest to travel' and the gains are obvious !

Thanks Acca for mentioning this phenomena and Dr Tanju Argun university of Ankara Turkey~




Quote

 “The Conservation of Energy Law”? edited and quoted.

In 1993 Tom Bearden came up with the idea of “Massless Displacement Current”. I was inspired (Tanju Argun) by that.
As you might know   there is a process called “The Skin Effect” where Electrons (charged particles),
before forming a current, must travel from the center of a conductor to the peripheric rim to travel. The time,
the electrons traverse from center to the rim is called the” Relaxation Time”. We are talking Microseconds here. So, what I did  here was to simply,
 by just letting a big Capacitor to sniff the Potential of a 24 volts Battery for only 100 Microseconds. During these 100 microseconds,
 electrons start to move to outside perimeter of the conductor to start the current.
But unfortunate for them time is not enough to form the current.
Instead those trapped electrons just attain a “Potential Gradient “across them.

So, the capacitor gets the Potential Difference across it with minimum current, which is called the “Mass less Displacement Current”. In analogy;
the young man “the capacitor”, just catches -a glimpse of a passing by super-mini skirted young lady- “the battery”. Capacitor is loaded with minimum power.
 Ideal case is to use iron wire or doped conductors and plates to block the electrons from forming a current by increasing the “Relaxation Time”.
After 100 microseconds, the Mosfet switch opens and disconnects the battery from the capacitor.




AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on September 23, 2018, 10:50:21 PM
I find this cherkunov guy a bit strange. If he is posting these antigrav videos why doesn’t go around the thing with a stick to show no wires? In one video he does,  but only goes in the front of the device. The plates are not level, but the device floats straight? What kinda force is that?

Antigravity was patented by tt brown already:)

antigrav levitation is not same thing like levitation :)  .I made a video showing some sort of levitation some months ago  with diamagnetic materials like aluminum under influence of dielectric fields , where is possible levitate a aluminum even without any wire connected .  https://youtu.be/kXdBKhVG2Bg?t=1
I really don't believe that those videos show any type of real anti gravity process , maybe some sort of levitation but not some type of antigravity  :) .

chears

Nelson Rocha
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: cheappower2012 on September 24, 2018, 01:28:20 AM
On the Cherkunov device:
When someone levitates an object,say thru the use of magnetic fields
the magnetic field is transferring the force of the weight,thru action/reaction
this is not an anti-gravity effect.You are merely pushing against the magnetic field,this provides a lift by repulsion which has a limited range,it transfers the weight to what ever its pushing against.In
hes device,lets say it weighs 3 pounds,you are providing a 3 pound lifting force to counter
 the weight of the object,it is not pushing against anything.If it is not a
 trick, it is extremely important,could an object escape the earths gravity
if it produced a small up ward force not dependent on chemical fuel.
Consider a balloon with helium it keeps going until it reaches the edge of the atmosphere.
A device if real would keep going until it escaped the earth.
The problem is if its real and he does a good test of hes device the government will move
on him quickly,can't have there enemies have this information.
Right now he would be considered a crackpot.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 24, 2018, 04:21:41 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLWu6jSHQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXLWu6jSHQU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPqEtBYnkmQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPqEtBYnkmQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WnddW5gZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WnddW5gZI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xx_cyo3OX0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xx_cyo3OX0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r4wytAjrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r4wytAjrU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FsmEwlgF94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FsmEwlgF94) (video  from our perspective  valuable as he uses soft iron wires  substituting ferrite core.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjayUoi8L4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjayUoi8L4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARKHcq-Ee8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARKHcq-Ee8g)
https://youtu.be/-kLkc7uS-r0?t=6 (https://youtu.be/-kLkc7uS-r0?t=6) rusting of ferrite particles is usually done in porcelain cylinders.
https://youtu.be/BHuWloNGo6c?t=47 (https://youtu.be/BHuWloNGo6c?t=47) we are not interested with neodynium, we  are interested with process of manufacturing only
https://youtu.be/HhpPwg89j6I?t=70 (https://youtu.be/HhpPwg89j6I?t=70)  Wesley's Wayne Kerr  Magnetic Analyzer
https://youtu.be/flkrwW4Ht-I?t=14 (https://youtu.be/flkrwW4Ht-I?t=14)     Wesley's LCR
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=106 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=106)Wesley's Beta and Alpha
https://youtu.be/hnY1Zbi7sgM?t=21another (https://youtu.be/hnY1Zbi7sgM?t=21another) DIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jybTInqeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jybTInqeQ) furnace
https://youtu.be/noGGcyPHtdI?t=166 (https://youtu.be/noGGcyPHtdI?t=166) not importanthttps://www.hitachimetals.com/materials-products/soft-ferrites/ni-zn-materials/stress-and-magnetic-field-resistance.php (https://www.hitachimetals.com/materials-products/soft-ferrites/ni-zn-materials/stress-and-magnetic-field-resistance.php)
http://tscinternational.com/tech13.pdf (http://tscinternational.com/tech13.pdf)
http://www.fair-rite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2007.pdf (http://www.fair-rite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2007.pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvwXMPnbG8k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvwXMPnbG8k) ferrite material
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt_0QcvsIbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt_0QcvsIbo)    ferrite material
http://www.hpmemoryproject.org/an/pdf/an_1297.pdf (http://www.hpmemoryproject.org/an/pdf/an_1297.pdf)
http://www.johnbreslin.org/files/publications/19960900_vpec1996.pdf (http://www.johnbreslin.org/files/publications/19960900_vpec1996.pdf) with HP 4194A ( Wesley's Lab) for Low frequency
second picture
http://www.ieice.org/proceedings/EMC14/contents/pdf/16P2-B3.pdf (http://www.ieice.org/proceedings/EMC14/contents/pdf/16P2-B3.pdf)  for Low frequency
third picture

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http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5980-2862EN.pdfhttp://www.datatronics.com/pdf/distributed_capacitance_paper.pdf (http://literature.cdn.keysight.com/litweb/pdf/5980-2862EN.pdfhttp://www.datatronics.com/pdf/distributed_capacitance_paper.pdf) we do the same  but with low frequency.
Capacitance  of transformer is important  at resonance. In Lithuania Experiment  we had been  at audible LF region.
Strong vibration. 
Figure 6 shows the phase angle of current plotted against frequency, using a Hewlett Packard HP-4194A.  The plot is the same coil as discussed in (2). The resonant frequency is 499 KHz

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254057540_Analysis_of_the_Complex_Permeability_Versus_Frequency_of_Soft_Magnetic_Composites_Consisting_of_Iron_and_Fe73Cu1Nb3Si16B7 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/254057540_Analysis_of_the_Complex_Permeability_Versus_Frequency_of_Soft_Magnetic_Composites_Consisting_of_Iron_and_Fe73Cu1Nb3Si16B7)
The complex magnetic permeability of most materials varies with frequency with iron powder peaking when exposed to magnetic fields close to 100 kHz [17].
Iron particles on the other hand have a peak complex permittivity of 50 at around 100 kHz [17].
iron filings are readily available at particle sizes of around 1 μm, and can be readily mixed with water, soil, or in our case, sand particles with average sizes of 1 mm as shown in   ...


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: PolaczekCebulaczek on September 24, 2018, 04:31:53 PM
Cherkunov levitation device is pure fake, I was about to debunk his outdoor demo and make a video using trash can lid but I could not find a suitable place nearby my house (two trees on the sides of an open field) its all about fishing line on bright background (sky) and the stick test is so simple to fake that you would laugh, I can tell you how its done but you will be ashamed that you didn't notice how its done.

There is no way on the world to generate such a lift using weak EM and magnets.

Same thing may be about Kapanadze but not that easy, for kapa-hoax I have some ideas but that involves "displacement ground current" in truly russian (and dangerous) fashion.

Right now I have no time for this stuff, working my ass of to survive in ex soviet poor country (bogactwooo macie w tej amerce nie to co u nas w polszy za miedza u putina )

I'm till working on woobling and vibrating magnetic motor project (not OU but just cool stuff)

Thats my two cents for now.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on September 25, 2018, 04:21:25 PM
Hi,
Finally i have assemble the Kapanadze PVC support and Antenna after around 1 year of inactivity on this device.

Akula would likely use solid core copper "6 AWG solid core copper" which i used white shrink wrap as shown in yellow marker for Antenna.

This device was oscillating at it's own frequency around 80khz(Sine-Wave from kapanadze winding output) for input frequency around 10khz(parametric waveform, 1/3 sub-harmonics) which the circuit i have assembled was designed to operate  at 1/3(Frequency divider) of it's resonance frequency after 3 turn toroid which the L/C resonance test was around 30khz.I had overlooked impedance mismatch back then and did not measure voltage at the 26 turns on toroid after the kapanadze was operating at a higher frequency
Forgot to mentioned tesla coil was on pulse interrupted at around 1.7Mhz around (multi pulse at 55us...60us wide need to re-confirm again base on last trimmer setting)for the accelerated frequency 80khz which appear as pure sine-wave.
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I am still the only person in this forum whom did not use resonance since my belief before the findings was the kapanadze winding needs to oscillate at it's own frequency but unknown at that time whether  it will go higher or lower than the drive frequency.------------------------------Hint for me was provided in this video of Akula device translated by Wesley.The device winding did look similar to Kapanadze and Akula was applying 1/3 resonance but in the reverse order.Coil was driven at around 55khz but the internal winding was designed to osc at 155khz which is around 3 times of input frequency.
--------------------------------------Reverse engineered Ruslan circuit and found that his device was using divide by12 (6 from 4017 and div 2 from Flip-Flop)
Tesla magic,prime number 3,6,9,12..That's all for now.It's late.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on September 30, 2018, 03:40:53 PM
Hi everyone,
Latest findings while fine tuning device..many preparation to do before lift off. :)
Previously i mentioned 4017/74HC4017 configured as divide by 3 for Akula device.But the duty cycle output from 4017 isn't 50% (It's more like around 65% ) even if a 50% duty signal is applied to 4017 clk input.
Today i discovered the output of 4017 from mosfet driver is actually 49.5% and 50.5% since i am using small blue toroid(current sense) with 8 turns after the 3 turns from huge toroid(6mm sq) before the 0.47ufx2 Wima capacitor.The other i/c configured as divide by 3 with 50% duty 4xCLC previously shown in my youtube channel related to programming.This i/c no longer produce 50% duty if combined with current sense transformer.So in another words Akula is a smart guy.

I have attached the a pll image which previously i have made  modification for the pll circuit to work.
Only for the experienced just use LM393N portion an combine with current sense blue toroid with 8 turns combine with 74HC14.74HC2G14(SOT23-6).But i am not advising anyone to work on this pll circuit(Tested to be working after minor mod) since resonance isn't the key.

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Tuning without HV enabled and w/o Grounding.I noticed that output from 26 turns on toroid is around 422Vpp at around 11khz near square wave with 100nf 2kv CBB cap.The kapanadze out is also connected to 100nf CBB capacitor.Variable supply settings 12.6volts at 1.9Amps.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 01, 2018, 03:02:53 PM
Hi everyone,
Latest findings while fine tuning device..many preparation to do before lift off. :)
Previously i mentioned 4017/74HC4017 configured as divide by 3 for Akula device.But the duty cycle output from 4017 isn't 50% (It's more like around 65% ) even if a 50% duty signal is applied to 4017 clk input.
Today i discovered the output of 4017 from mosfet driver is actually 49.5% and 50.5% since i am using small blue toroid(current sense) with 8 turns after the 3 turns from huge toroid(6mm sq) before the 0.47ufx2 Wima capacitor.The other i/c configured as divide by 3 with 50% duty 4xCLC previously shown in my youtube channel related to programming.This i/c no longer produce 50% duty if combined with current sense transformer.So in another words Akula is a smart guy.

I have attached the a pll image which previously i have made  modification for the pll circuit to work.
Only for the experienced just use LM393N portion an combine with current sense blue toroid with 8 turns combine with 74HC14.74HC2G14(SOT23-6).But i am not advising anyone to work on this pll circuit(Tested to be working after minor mod) since resonance isn't the key.

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Tuning without HV enabled and w/o Grounding.I noticed that output from 26 turns on toroid is around 422Vpp at around 11khz near square wave with 100nf 2kv CBB cap.The kapanadze out is also connected to 100nf CBB capacitor.Variable supply settings 12.6volts at 1.9Amps.
Hi Magpwr i'm not trying to be clever here but trying to clear my confusion, if my Tesla coil is tuned to, for the sake of argument 1.728mhz it will divide down to a 'base 8' Don Smith chose 31.5khz that's a base 8 and 9  ie base 9 3+1+5=9  the creator the universe, don't know if you know what i'm getting at here but 8 is the other energy that involves the earth..

Anyway the Akula Tesla coil or whatever you want to call it generates a sine wave so in effect if you follow that train of thought your pushing the static field then pulling it, How does that work ? so to get one polarity or the other you need a 10Kv full wave bridge, and if you want to use a spark gap or some other device you need a charge caps up to some sort of timing
looks complicated like a TV EHT fly back thus using the one haif wave to charge the cap and the other as the capacitor dis charge as per Don Smith and Mr TKap'zy.

Your thoughts please AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on October 01, 2018, 03:46:54 PM
Hi Magpwr i'm not trying to be clever here but trying to clear my confusion, if my Tesla coil is tuned to, for the sake of argument 1.67mhz it will divide down to a 'base 8' Don Smith chose 31.5khz that's a base 8 and 9  ie base 9 3+1+5=9  the creator the universe, don't know if you know what i'm getting at here but 8 is the other energy.

Anyway the Akula Tesla coil or whatever you want to call it generates a sine wave so in efect if you follow that traion of thoght uour pushing the static field then pulling it, How does that work ? so to get one polarity or the other you need a 10Kv full wave bridge, and if you want to use a spark gap or some other device you need a charge capst up to some sort of timing
looks complicated like a TV EHT fly back.
Hi AlienGrey,
I can't advise much on Don-Smith.But the only thing i understand is the lower the number of turns like Don-smith the higher the input voltage we need to use like neon-transformer with spark gap.
--------------------Back to Kapanadze the last round around 1 year ago i was using 6x10nf Mica 1000volts rated after 3 turns from toroid combined with 4layers on the primary coil in order to get around 30khz at L/C resonance signal test.
But i overlooked impedance issue with low value capacitor since i was focused on resonance like the rest and but i was applying 1/3 resonance.The output is nice sine-wave at around 80khz if tuned right and it will stay that way even upon power on.
This time primary winding reduced to 2 layers on kapanadze and capacitor value increased to 0.47ufx2 parallel.

The output of kapanadze will look like this as attached without applying power to telsa coil at around 1.7Mhz.The probe used was x100 but settings was still at x10  re-attached corrected version.My scope is now running on battery power via pure sine-wave inverter after measuring power consumption at 230v outlet to be around 28watts.On 12v battery uses 2.7Amps with scope on.Saved money on portable isolated scope. :)
The device will start hissing once the tesla frequency is right at around 1.7Mhz and the test pen will glow at a distance from ferrite rod to Antenna at 12volts tesla coil supply interrupted pulse at 260ns(each pulse) at around 55us wide for now.

I am still tuning device at the moment  with tesla and can't advise much for now and starting to kill IGBT now even with lowered varistor rating 150v from 470v.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 02, 2018, 12:43:42 PM
Yes  that is fast it's almost a |X10-9 a charged partials travel about 12" in that time, I made a PCB for that PLL circuit you published and i made it
I couldn't get it to be Equally Waited on the 4046 output gave up in the end and the pick up circuit was also crap, how have you got the decide by 3 etc
connected up ? one way would be to include a 4013 after the 4046.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on October 02, 2018, 02:39:31 PM
Yes  that is fast it's almost a |X10-9 a charged partials travel about 12" in that time, I made a PCB for that PLL circuit you published and i made it
I couldn't get it to be Equally Waited on the 4046 output gave up in the end and the pick up circuit was also crap, how have you got the decide by 3 etc
connected up ? one way would be to include a 4013 after the 4046.

AG
hi AlienGrey,
That circuit was flawed which i have shown the amendment made merely at the front end LM393N.Take note of the suffix.


You will need to use small blue toroid which is large enough to go over the 3 turns.

I can't stop you for trying with 4046 pll.I run from this pll stuff if i were you. :)
I have attached a obsolete but working  PLL circuit which can lock onto L/C resonance(After 3 turns) between 17khz to 38khz  which was saved for my my reference.Phase shift using just 2 gates 74hc14 after LM393N was implemented in my current circuit.

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The distorted waveform i have attached previously needs to be dancing or fluctuating constantly without the HV tesla powered on.
This i think will indicate  there is ionization happening at the kapanadze coil without tesla coil turned on.
This is just one of the key ingredient.

I just remembered to look for this effect which i forgotten to apply after the last Sunday experiment.
I will stick with battery like the last round.The mains powered scope is never the issue because not many ppl know the scope ground is also connected to scope earth.

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I may need to redo  the IGBT drive circuit using IR2113 like Akula circuit.But need time to do it on breadboard first.
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I have attached image of the semi Tesla Coil then wind as semi Helix coil.Hint was given in Akula video or photo.


I have previously done experiment with full Helix coil which produce the highest current reading to Earth via clamp meter*Used as indicator but not accurate measurement.
Tesla Transponder 2.0 -Interrupter 1.7Mhz  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yun3HjsNNKs)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yun3HjsNNKs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yun3HjsNNKs)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 02, 2018, 11:26:56 PM
Do you mean this one ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY



How many turns are under the blue tape ??????????????????
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on October 03, 2018, 01:29:09 AM
Do you mean this one ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY)



How many turns are under the blue tape ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Hi Aliengrey,


The video about helix coil was posted in my youtube channel link as shown in previous post.Tesla transponder 1.7Mhz.


I can't recall how many turns left on tesla coil.But it's about the primary outer coil length at 4th top winding from the left.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 03, 2018, 12:16:12 PM
Drawing shows grenade winding setup
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on October 09, 2018, 09:29:10 PM
Hi Wesley. For an alternative view regarding how ferrite or iron etc might be used to produce
free energy, you might be interested in George Bugh's ideas about Spin Waves. I don't necessarily
agree or disagree with his ideas, but I find them interesting. He is a very smart guy.

George J. Bugh Videos:

Spin Waves:
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDEtPGB13NM
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMFqOvViDg
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4Ni3ke2I8

Spin Wave Technology part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkOuGRU8akA
Spin Wave Technology part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjsL1zfmKvA
Spin Wave Technology part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=craHcstJJZ0
Spin Wave Technology part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izlcZPUMkdA

Gravity (I haven't watched these yet, just found them on his youtube channel):
Where Gravity Comes From, Part 1 of 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5qG5wHJ_s
Where gravity comes from part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbG1vaxSWE
Where gravity comes from part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02-iLzjFbE

George J. Bugh Book (may not be currently available , goes into a bit more detail than his videos):
Spin Wave Technology
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/vc002.php

More Info on George J. Bugh and his Spin Waves ideas:
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/
Spin Waves in magnetic levitation and propulsion:
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/downloads/swt_magnetic_levitation.pdf


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 13, 2018, 02:45:05 AM
https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Scientists-studying-wireless-electric-transmission-in-Central-Texas-494839331.html (https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Scientists-studying-wireless-electric-transmission-in-Central-Texas-494839331.html)
It’s being undertaken by a Waxahachie company named Viziv and it uses a technology they call a surface wave system.
The Viziv surface wave systems will improve the quality of life for people everywhere by enabling the delivery of affordable electricity throughout the world,”
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on October 13, 2018, 01:11:41 PM
https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Scientists-studying-wireless-electric-transmission-in-Central-Texas-494839331.html (https://www.kwtx.com/content/news/Scientists-studying-wireless-electric-transmission-in-Central-Texas-494839331.html)
It’s being undertaken by a Waxahachie company named Viziv and it uses a technology they call a surface wave system.
The Viziv surface wave systems will improve the quality of life for people everywhere by enabling the delivery of affordable electricity throughout the world,”
Wesley

This tower looks familiar somehow...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on October 13, 2018, 06:51:40 PM
Hi Wesley. For an alternative view regarding how ferrite or iron etc might be used to produce
free energy, you might be interested in George Bugh's ideas about Spin Waves. I don't necessarily
agree or disagree with his ideas, but I find them interesting. He is a very smart guy.

George J. Bugh Videos:

Spin Waves:
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDEtPGB13NM
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEMFqOvViDg
Overview_of_Spin_Wave_Technology_part_3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge4Ni3ke2I8

Spin Wave Technology part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkOuGRU8akA
Spin Wave Technology part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjsL1zfmKvA
Spin Wave Technology part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=craHcstJJZ0
Spin Wave Technology part 4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izlcZPUMkdA

Gravity (I haven't watched these yet, just found them on his youtube channel):
Where Gravity Comes From, Part 1 of 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB5qG5wHJ_s
Where gravity comes from part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSbG1vaxSWE
Where gravity comes from part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J02-iLzjFbE

George J. Bugh Book (may not be currently available , goes into a bit more detail than his videos):
Spin Wave Technology
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/vc002.php

More Info on George J. Bugh and his Spin Waves ideas:
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/
Spin Waves in magnetic levitation and propulsion:
https://www.vasantcorporation.com/downloads/swt_magnetic_levitation.pdf

Gravity video 2 made me feel warm and fuzzy inside, when he said something like "do not consider an electron of a solid ball of matter, but rather a quanta of EM energy spinning in a vortice"

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 15, 2018, 02:53:23 PM
HOPPY this one is for you, do you remember some time ago Nelson showed us a board
where he could feed a lamp of something like 12 watts and use it to
feed another controlled 12-watt lamp that could go to full brightness ??

Did you think at the time it was a fraud?   Like to know how its done after all this time?

well, it's not! here it's done with 2 35watt bulbs
please note i claim no originality for this technology as my own but respect others wishes.
AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on October 22, 2018, 03:57:46 AM
Wesley
Got a Cowboy Hat and Boots !:'} ?
we might have a member or two close enuff for a field trip ?
would be nice to get some more photos / info  [is that thing really there ?]
Chet


32°08'56.46" N  96°56'32.06" W

(imagery from March 2018 in Google Earth)

http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide (http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 22, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0MJjq9MuU&t=171s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0MJjq9MuU&t=171s)
it's true?  :)   :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 22, 2018, 01:48:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0MJjq9MuU&t=171s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX0MJjq9MuU&t=171s)
it's true?  :)   :o

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 24, 2018, 11:15:49 PM
To understand think of Energy Frequency Vibration. Tesla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJhKXq2GoUY
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 24, 2018, 11:39:46 PM
Sure this thread and basically this forum is not about whining about different dark powers that are aiming to kill 7 billion people so they could rule more easily.

We gotta do something while we wait for Wesley to give us the plans to the mother ship!
you mean zero point energy! who was that kid who turned his brother into a Christmas tree? on his lab wall is a poster that's a clue !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COH6PLjmJ3o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keLN89CWZ-A
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 25, 2018, 02:01:12 AM
that will never happen no matter how long you wait.
I prefer to go back to my bench rather than watch god knows how many videos posted by someone.
And now that I know that I live in the country of "Hitler's chair of Pergerman is Satans "I look from time to time down to the floor and try to look ashamed a bit .... ups did I really say that .. yeah I know germans not allowed to that.
What's that space travel by reverse engineering? look again on google. again you can view the throne on the internet try google (I've seen it) the museum also has some other interesting exhibits to view oh and I lived in Coln in the 80's it was a great place and so were the people.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on October 25, 2018, 05:43:46 AM
Regarding the new Dneister video that wesley posted a link to,
Wesley are you certain that is not the same person as before (Adrian Guska/Dneister)?
I haven't really watched videos from that 'Adrian Guska' person before, except for a little bit.

This is some of the comments made for the video:

SlavVjache:
Днестр , привет. Ты здесь ?
что ты домашнюю электронику не бережешь?
Давненько тебя не было , какие новости у тех у кого получилось ?
живы здоровы ?
--------------------
Dniester, hello. Are you here ?
What do you not take care of home electronics?
Long time you did not have any news from those who got it?
Are you healthy?

Dniester Basarabia:
Сдесь бываю редко нет смысла чтото расказывать и показывать сдесь...
У меня всьо отлично.
У тех у кого чтото получилось те давно ушли в оверлейные сети и I2P
и попасть туда можно по приглашению, ценная инфа хорошо скрыта от любопытных глаз и глупцов.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dniester Basarabia:
I seldom have reason to tell and show here.
I have a very good one.
Those who have something turned out they have long gone into overlay networks and I2P
and you can get there by invitation, valuable info is well hidden from prying eyes and fools.
-----------
[The person who posted this video is saying that those who really have something (in the free energy research area, I presume)
are using private encrypted peer to peer IP communications to keep their discussions of these things private.]
-----------


Regarding the video, I find it quite interesting. This person seems to know what they are doing as far as electronics
construction is concerned, and also very odd that they can place their foot and hand right in that quite high voltage
corona discharge arcing and not get some degree of shocks or skin burns. The output current in those discharge arcs seems
fairly high. Maybe he was getting some shocks and skin burns but maybe he is more than a little crazy. ;D If he wasn't
getting any shocks and skin burns, then the question is why not with that apparent fairly high amount of output power?
Anyone have any comments on that?

The video I am referring to is:
"VTTC GU81M Dniester"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj_1InKjrHk

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 25, 2018, 11:15:16 AM
Foma Sergeevich
Foma Sergeevich
3 days ago
Well, thank God, alive, and then the rumor on the Internet scattered that banged you.


Dniester Basarabia
Dniester Basarabia
2 days ago
Gossip and slander !!!!

The device is not a Katcher it's something like a Line powered Brovin high power device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on October 25, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
Regarding the new Dneister video that wesley posted a link to,
Wesley are you certain that is not the same person as before (Adrian Guska/Dneister)?
I haven't really watched videos from that 'Adrian Guska' person before, except for a little bit.

This is some of the comments made for the video:

SlavVjache:
Днестр , привет. Ты здесь ?
что ты домашнюю электронику не бережешь?
Давненько тебя не было , какие новости у тех у кого получилось ?
живы здоровы ?
--------------------
Dniester, hello. Are you here ?
What do you not take care of home electronics?
Long time you did not have any news from those who got it?
Are you healthy?

Dniester Basarabia:
Сдесь бываю редко нет смысла чтото расказывать и показывать сдесь...
У меня всьо отлично.
У тех у кого чтото получилось те давно ушли в оверлейные сети и I2P
и попасть туда можно по приглашению, ценная инфа хорошо скрыта от любопытных глаз и глупцов.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dniester Basarabia:
I seldom have reason to tell and show here.
I have a very good one.
Those who have something turned out they have long gone into overlay networks and I2P
and you can get there by invitation, valuable info is well hidden from prying eyes and fools.
-----------
[The person who posted this video is saying that those who really have something (in the free energy research area, I presume)
are using private encrypted peer to peer IP communications to keep their discussions of these things private.]
-----------


Regarding the video, I find it quite interesting. This person seems to know what they are doing as far as electronics
construction is concerned, and also very odd that they can place their foot and hand right in that quite high voltage
corona discharge arcing and not get some degree of shocks or skin burns. The output current in those discharge arcs seems
fairly high. Maybe he was getting some shocks and skin burns but maybe he is more than a little crazy. ;D If he wasn't
getting any shocks and skin burns, then the question is why not with that apparent fairly high amount of output power?
Anyone have any comments on that?

The video I am referring to is:
"VTTC GU81M Dniester"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj_1InKjrHk

Just wondering. Is it really arcs FROM the coil, or the ambient going INTO the coil as arcs?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 25, 2018, 02:48:48 PM
Just wondering. Is it really arcs FROM the coil, or the ambient going INTO the coil as arcs?
The yellow flame is his skin burning into pin holes bet it smells nice.
What are you thinking of making an air ionizer energy waster or same thing they are not the same as that thing
is chucking RF energy all around and could me emitting harmful energy wave all around if not correctly sorted!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on October 25, 2018, 04:10:34 PM
Maybe there is a reason the Van Allen belts did not kill the astronauts...

This guy drinks heavy water, swims in the cooling pools and eats uranium. He says it is a scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkAFu7HQyzY

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on October 26, 2018, 03:50:19 AM
Just wondering. Is it really arcs FROM the coil, or the ambient going INTO the coil as arcs?


Hi Belfior. Well, to my way of thinking it is not really arcing until he places his foot or hand or some other
object close enough to the tesla coil that it starts arcing between the tesla coil and the object.
If an object is large enough and at least somewhat conductive, it can act as a sort of virtual ground
even if it is not directly grounded, and you can get some arcing between the tesla coil and the object.
The current flow would be AC however, since the high voltage on the tesla coil secondary is AC, so
I think it is not really in one direction or another. The corona discharge from an object may form around
an object first, and then spread from the object towards the tesla coil, as seems to happen in one part of that video.
That is not really a direction of energy transfer however, if that is what you mean. It is the direction the ionization
in the air took due to spreading electron avalanche.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 26, 2018, 12:29:10 PM
Maybe there is a reason the Van Allen belts did not kill the astronauts...

This guy drinks heavy water, swims in the cooling pools and eats uranium. He says it is a scam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkAFu7HQyzY
seen it he died of leukemia !  Galen Windsor but can't find out when. He talks about 1986 so he was alive after that!
But what he is saying is energy control is a scam by the guv cartels of the world, as if we didn't know the planet is run by Satanic flys  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 29, 2018, 07:09:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQTYaL9jCMo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQTYaL9jCMo)
https://youtu.be/TUdbzgCWFIY?t=899 (https://youtu.be/TUdbzgCWFIY?t=899)

 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: x_name41 on October 29, 2018, 09:48:35 PM
thanks Wesley this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoqF3gjLIyI) corresponding to the one of my old invention (http://xname41.blogspot.com/2015/12/blog-post_98.html) for reducing power consumption of the high power LED matrix structures. But I went far into the development of this concept as I applied it to the infrared LEDs for efficiency systems for heating through my separate project on this issue

this is my concept (https://i.imgur.com/PJniVIf.gif) but with pauses between pulses

p.s. in the my theme pauses between pulses no used, but this is very important and must have pauses!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 30, 2018, 03:22:29 PM
   And you think that the U.S. military along with the Black Budget projects don't posses such free energy generators, already???   And, anti-gravity electromagnetic devices and space ships...  We are being held in the dark about all this, for as long as possible.   But, we need to do something about that. As this forum, along with all the other free energy forums are going no where.
There are no new self running devices being shown, other than magnet motors, etz...  What is going on...   Nothing new seen from Kapanadze, Akula, Ruslan, Cepren, or even Dr. Stiffler.  Or any other guys that have self runners.   Are we going to sleep through all this secrecy?
   Wake up guys...
Yeah well said that man!
Surgh you're a comedian, right? nice joke any rate  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 30, 2018, 03:41:17 PM
If the military had such a OU source and anti-gravity, we would have already seen colonies on the Moon and Mars.
But we do not have it!
Because money is spent on stupid guns, tanks, submarines, etc.  :'(
You think so ! that's their strategy, they call it the mushroom effect, kept in the dark and fed BS!  ;D
ever heard of dreamland and reverse engineering they are already here (rumor has it!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on October 30, 2018, 06:46:01 PM
I think there are more and more people waking up and this makes the "dark side" shift gears, because they need to get absolute control before thew majority wakes up.

So free energy is a start and we need to get it out now. This is why people like Kapanadze really make me angry, because what they want is a short term goal that would get them a nice car and a new fridge.

When they launch WW3 and the survivors are under ground, then they can just close the air vents when they want compliance. The trumps are on the Moon or orbit and just wait.

free energy will give us anti-gravity and then the game is up for them. There is no nationalism or racism anymore, when we are out there exploring
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 30, 2018, 11:05:29 PM
 



More about:Viziv  former TEXZON   
Texzon commercial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZErR_ZR3E&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZErR_ZR3E&feature=youtu.be)
 

Viziv wireless high efficiency Power transmitting technology.

1.Viziv is  the successor if TEXZON

2.Texzon Technologies, LLC Request for Part 5 Experimental License ELS File No. 0924-EX-CN-2017 https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=202374&x (https://apps.fcc.gov/els/GetAtt.html?id=202374&x)

3. they use Zenneck wave  propagation as means of communication with the remote of  fix load ( cars , houses)

4.TEXZON TECHNOLOGIES CONFERENCE PAPER [DRAFT DATE: March 23, 2016] SURFACE WAVES *AND THE‘CRUCIAL’PROPAGATION EXPERIMENT http://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum16.pdf (http://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum16.pdf)
4a.THE MICROGRID UNPLUGGED:  ENERGY SURETY VIA WIRELESS POWER  http://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf (http://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf)

5.Milford testing facility, tower seeks to send signals worldwide http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide (http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide)

//

7. Address of facility from point# 7:  IH-35 in Milford, Texas near Dale Acres Rd

8.location of tower look at map and picture below ( this information  might be misleading  occupied by Russian trolls  blog) 
  https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B008'57.3%22N+96%C2%B056'31.2%22W/@32.14908,-96.9420261,190m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d32.1492354!4d- (https://www.google.com/maps/place/32%C2%B008'57.3%22N+96%C2%B056'31.2%22W/@32.14908,-96.9420261,190m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d32.1492354!4d-)  96.9420111

9. web site of  VIZIV http://vizivtechnologies.com/news/viziv-technologies-llc-partners-baylor-university-develop-potentially-revolutionary-electrical-distribution-technology/ (http://vizivtechnologies.com/news/viziv-technologies-llc-partners-baylor-university-develop-potentially-revolutionary-electrical-distribution-technology/)

10.Baylor University (https://www.bing.com/aclick?ld=e3d4RhimKyZ_PUMm-lq3AQ7DVUCUzQAQ6igbb8ASFbmyLPY8dDPo6pm8F6IUDsuamlW-199FYCNoWaCGIbpctrADus6o5QK5HZyf-YJJBM6zndpKSZYDXitOfNjZpbtWNLaGpTwOKoDYzlimYvIWXc8oazW5mfh3jerhiVLcDclKdsbqno&u=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&rlid=c4b42d6b3e561504478b76b3eaedd505)    publication about Viziv https://www.baylor.edu/research/news.php?action=story&story=202541 (https://www.baylor.edu/research/news.php?action=story&story=202541)
10a.Wireless power distribution goal of firm's Baylor partnership https://www.wacotrib.com/news/business/wireless-power-distribution-goal-of-firm-s-baylor-partnership/article_84a1f458-0f56-5f96-affe-92c7349120e0.html (https://www.wacotrib.com/news/business/wireless-power-distribution-goal-of-firm-s-baylor-partnership/article_84a1f458-0f56-5f96-affe-92c7349120e0.html)

11. Zenneck Wave explanation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave)

12.Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media Abstract: https://patents.google.com/patent/US9912031B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9912031B2/en)

13.Application of power multiplication to electric power distribution https://patents.google.com/patent/US7969042 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7969042)

14. Total Funding Amount  of  Viziv  $38.3M   https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/texzon#section-overview (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/texzon#section-overview)   

15.   
Quote
This guy owns the patent:https://www.teslasociety.com/corum.htm
  please look at  it as  a quote from source.     Dr. James F Corum

16.
Quote
Ken Corum is currently chief scientist for TEXZON Technologies (http://www.texzontechnologies.com/) in Red Oak, Texas, where his research is finding practical applications.  https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/2017/03/25/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/ (https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/2017/03/25/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/)


17.Viziv  Founding rounds https://www.crunchbase.com/search/funding_rounds/field/organizations/last_funding_type/texzon (https://www.crunchbase.com/search/funding_rounds/field/organizations/last_funding_type/texzon)

18.
Quote
Dr. James F Corum looks at the Philadelphia experiment through the critical eyes of a scientist.
relate this to point#15

19.
Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGglyC8QEnk&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGglyC8QEnk&feature=youtu.be)   Dr. James F Corum looks at the Philadelphia experiment
please look at  it as  a quote from source.

20.
Quote
Philadelphia Experiment Al Bielek  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJzt_FR7zc&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoJzt_FR7zc&feature=youtu.be)
please look at  it as  a quote from source.

21. 
Quote
Montauk Project   Al Bielek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOsC2CrLfo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BOsC2CrLfo&feature=youtu.be)
please look at  it as  a quote from source.

22. Viziv: about us: http://vizivtechnologies.com/about-us/ (http://vizivtechnologies.com/about-us/)

23. I see it as not related but interesting :Superconducting Super Collider https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconducting_Super_Collider)

24.
<blockquote>
Quote
They are straight up building what Tesla said could be done years ago.
A Texas company pushing to commercialize an idea championed by famed inventor Nikola Tesla more than a century ago has recruited help from Baylor University.
Viziv Technologies will be getting help from Baylor students and instructors as it works to develop a way to distribute electricity wirelessly over long distances.

The company’s work focuses on the use of “a phenomenon known as a Zenneck surface wave to transmit electromagnetic waves along the interface of earth and air,”
according to a Baylor press release announcing the partnership.
Viziv is also working to develop use of Zenneck waves in communication, navigation and sensing, according to the press release.
It leases about 3,000 square feet in the 330,000-square-foot Baylor Research and Innovation Collaborative, where it has done research since 2013.
It has a total of about 30 employees between locations here and in Waxahachie and Milford.
“History is replete with examples of the power of people and organizations coming together to do what would be impossible individually,”
.
President and CEO Michael Miller wrote in the press release.
The company is backed by more than $50 million from investors, spokesman Michael Taylor said.
This will be its first partnership with a university.
Good fit Baylor’s strong programs in electromagnets and power systems make the partnership a good fit,
Viziv Chief Technology Officer Randall Jean wrote in the press release.
“As an electrical and computer engineering professor at Baylor, my colleagues and
I were among the first to move our research into the BRIC in 2013,” Jean wrote.
The Zenneck surface waves the company hopes to develop commercial uses for are “unaffected by lightning, geomagnetic disturbances,
 solar flares or electromagnetic pulses such as those generated by a nuclear blast,” and are “virtually impervious” to the physical attacks
and cascading failures during peak use that threaten the power grid, according to the press release.
“Currently about 17 percent of the world’s population have no access to electrical power, and for many more people, availability is
spotty and unreliable,” Baylor Vice Provost for Research Truell Hyde wrote in the press release.
“This technology has the potential to raise the standard of living for people around the world. Who wouldn’t want to be a part of something like that?”
Viziv expects to double its employment over the next year, the press release states.
“We had a short-term agreement with Baylor to begin work and now have seen the arrangement extended,” Taylor said.
“Our ultimate goal is to commercialize as many applications as possible. We have a number in the works but would prefer to keep those internally at this time.”
The Baylor Research and Innovation Collaborative now has seven relationships with the private sector, including
 L3 Technologies, which employs about 900 people locally, said Whitney Richter, spokeswoman in Baylor’s Office of the Vice Provost for Research.
quote from https://www.reddit.com/user/Tha_Dude_Abidez (https://www.reddit.com/user/Tha_Dude_Abidez)


25.
Quote
<blockquote>According to the website of the Waxahachie-based company website, Viziv Technologies is a pioneer in the field of electromagnetic wave propagation,

power storage, and electricity distribution. One of the technologies under development by Viziv is to create wireless power systems.

The site notes the company has a portfolio of more than 65 U.S. and international patents.</blockquote><blockquote>Testing at the tower and laborites in Milford will start in the fourth quarter of this year.

The Federal Communications Commission has already established the ranges of frequencies that will be used in the test.

The frequencies range are in use in the public and private sector.</blockquote><blockquote>“We will be doing interval testing that will be several minutes in nature in the beginning,” Taylor explained.

“As we progress and fine-tune the system we will be extending (the test) where it could go for days and even weeks at a time to test the ruggedness of the system and its components.”</blockquote><blockquote>Taylor explained the field strength used in tests is comparable to an AM radio and poses no danger to people or animals.
 The test will work to establish a global signal at a very low frequency from a single location without using repeaters.</blockquote><blockquote>Thirty field intensity-monitoring stations placed at different sites around the planet will collect data from the tests.

Information gathered from these sites will be set back to be evaluated through a secured Internet and allow Viziv to gauge the signal’s strength.</blockquote><blockquote>“Testing could range anywhere from six months to a year, just depending on how they go and what we see,” Taylor stated.

“Then we will move on to the second and third major phases, which is the testing on the tower on Milford. Those revolve around other applications with the potential for energy transfer.”

Taylor states some of the potential uses for the technology are in the areas of regional and global positioning systems, radio navigation, and very low-frequency radio communication.

This type of radio communication is not used for audio transmissions but to send small data packets.

He noted the U.S. Navy uses VLF radio to communicate with submarines and can be used to send a signal like Morse code.</blockquote>
quote   from forum by F4STW4LKER

26. for comparison Tesla  Tower https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZErR_ZR3E&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mZErR_ZR3E&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2018, 05:55:20 PM
 I have made some analysis :

 
 shape of shadow  is matching pictures and proving that this is Viziv tower ( the successor of TEXZON )
a capacitive electrode (top load) (E) in the form of a smooth metal sphere or torus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torus) attached to the secondary terminal of the coil. Its large surface area suppresses premature air breakdown and arc discharges, increasing the Q factor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor) and output voltage. 
This looks like internal part of the tower capacitive electrode but not like external  dome of that  capacitive electrode
 For comparison to Tesla Coil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil)
For these skilled in digging check building department of buildings  in county district of Ellis County  in Milford TX to obtain plans of the structure
the plans and building permits may be available on line
https://www.countyoffice.org/tx-ellis-county-building-departments/ (https://www.countyoffice.org/tx-ellis-county-building-departments/)
https://www.countyoffice.org/tx-ellis-county-property-records/ (https://www.countyoffice.org/tx-ellis-county-property-records/)
http://esearch.elliscad.com/ (http://esearch.elliscad.com/)


Milford is a town located in extreme Northern Central Texas in the southwestern corner of Ellis County, Texas United States.
The population was 749 in 2008.
Milford is located at 32°7′22″N 96°56′48″W / 32.12278°N 96.94667°W / 32.12278; -96.94667 (32.122701, -96.946553).

In Google map you see underground  early stage of the structure https://www.bing.com/search?q=milford+tx+map&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR (https://www.bing.com/search?q=milford+tx+map&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR)

Here is the link to  Map . You can zoom  in and out, exactly on that structure by  orienting on roads around
after logging into the map press control key and  turn wheel on  your mouse
http://www.texas-drilling.com/ellis-county/milford (http://www.texas-drilling.com/ellis-county/milford)
orient yourself at  Ruth 35E and local road 308 up from Milford
look at  picture from below :
How to find Viziv Tower




Wesley


         
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 31, 2018, 06:50:38 PM
Smart Meters Warning !    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRR_u3oooHw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 31, 2018, 09:10:40 PM
Realy they did some tests on radio wave smog in this country on bees and found in close proximity to mobile phone transmitters and a single
cell phone close to a hive and onlt 28% could find there way back if it does that to them what are they doing to us. with a smart meter, it's constantly nattering all the time.

HOWfar from long island are you !

Most people never even heard of HAARP,
 
THE HAARP SITES ARE LOCATED GLOBALLY WHERE THE RICHEST MINERAL BELTS ARE LOCATED. SUBSURFACE MINERAL EXPLORATION HAS BEEN DONE FROM SATELLITES BY RADIOTOMOGRAPHY THAT IS 100% ACCURATE.

I wouldn't want one especially on the other side of my sitting room wall with outa lead liner around it apart from the fire hazard
 
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/haarp_installations_in_uk (https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/haarp_installations_in_uk)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on November 01, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
Wesley
Why is it everyone with a vested interest in a given technology are always the first to claim it's 100% safe when obviously it's not?. Because they are willing to put their own interests before that of everyone else. There are decades of research which proves EM radiation in fact does harm.

 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24053963
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK208983/
http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.html
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-18953-z
https://www.intechopen.com/books/biomedical-engineering/biological-effects-of-electromagnetic-radiation

The difference between us is that I did the research and understand the many risks involving RF radiation and continue to do FE research knowing the risks. However to just ignore the risk simply because you have a vested interest and tell others there is no risk is dishonest.

There are more than enough business people killing people with there products due to there own ignorance... we don't need any more.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 01, 2018, 10:19:36 AM
As asked for information on GLOBAL HONEYBEE PROBLEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY7iATJVCso

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 01, 2018, 12:40:50 PM


1.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24053963 (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24053963)
2.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK208983/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK208983/)
3.http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.html (http://www.who.int/peh-emf/about/WhatisEMF/en/index1.html)
4.https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-18953-z (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-18953-z)
5. https://www.intechopen.com/books/biomedical-engineering/biological-effects-of-electromagnetic-radiation (https://www.intechopen.com/books/biomedical-engineering/biological-effects-of-electromagnetic-radiation)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on November 02, 2018, 06:20:16 PM
On the Viziv
I did start a topic here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21067-tesla-tower-texas.html
Member Ernst has expressed his opinion [he has  Mini Wardenclyffe }
Chet
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 02, 2018, 07:42:44 PM
On the Viziv
I did start a topic here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21067-tesla-tower-texas.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21067-tesla-tower-texas.html)
Member Ernst has expressed his opinion [he has  Mini Wardenclyffe }
Chet
Thank you for the  link my friend
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 03, 2018, 10:58:16 AM
   Concerning the box? A riddle, perhaps...
   My reply is that it would be so cold inside as outside the box.
No solar heating in Deep Space. So, most of the deep space crafts built up to now are nuclear powered, not solar powered, even though some may show solar panels.  There is no light in deep space. 
  My point is that the creation of light on our planet, is not something that is "coming" from the Sun, as we are still being told.
  So, what is this so called "Sunlight", and how do we create or manufacture it,  for free?  Without needing to burn things up...
   
   There is no smoke traces inside the Great Pyramid, nor in any of the underground tunnels and chambers.  "Got it"?   
Yet, there are signs of glassified stone temples, possibly from previous nuclear explosions, or wars, many thousands of years ago. 
    I hope that it helps you to understand where I'm coming from.  However, I'm not trying to convince, anyone, just trying to relay a message, to look outside the box, as well.
   

 
Hello there Nick yes i hear what you're saying only to well what NASA has told us quote no light till it hits our atmosphere but
the moon doesn't have one so how did Neil or was it Buzz kill  the camera by pointing it at the sun and why wasn't the moon 'pitch black?

I can\t truly say as i have never been off planet yet but in saying that light is a wavelength isn't that like a radio wave?
A photon according to Science programmes on TV travels through space but on piggyback.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNntDhr2n4g

look at 36;24 how can you have an electromagnetic wave in nothing?

You might also be interested in capturing transferring and releasing energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pKapNKJsU8

PS don't trust NASA they are like atoms they make up EVERYTHING  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 03, 2018, 12:41:14 PM
"the creation of light on our planet, is not something that is "coming" from the Sun, as we are still being told"
...
"The Sun is NOT like a nuclear reactor"
...
"Photons will polarize toward a light source, thus creating light"
...
"the sun can't radiate heat in a vacuum"
...
"the East coast of America is the most haunted place on the planet"
...

I am very impressed by the density of nonsense and misinformation per unit of line length in this thread.
The photon is the quantum of electromagnetic energy that is exchanged between matter and the electromagnetic field. Sunlight is the electromagnetic field indirectly produced by the sun's nuclear fusion reactions.
This is easily verifiable by observations, measurements and all kinds of experiments made since the end of the 19th century. That is why scientists produce today countless useful and real products. The current technology is the proof of the veracity of their knowledge while the pretentious uneducated people who deny it by the Dunning-Kruger effect have never produced anything but pathetic blah, blah, blah. Otherwise, ignorants and followers of conspiracy theories, where can we find the real products of your great thoughts?
Sorry for my reaction, it's only my fault, it's due to a severe, irresistible and now irremediable allergy to stupidities, and even more, to the vain and conceited spreading of these stupidities.  :'(
Well when you scatter one's pearls of wisdom in front of swine one can occasionally expect them to be downtrodden into swill  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 03, 2018, 07:20:47 PM
Hoppy Nick, I know what Nick means as I have seen either Buz Aldrin or Edgar Mitchell say it's our atmosphere that lets us see stuff from space and light.
True or not I can't say.

question why is space black ?

https://starchild.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/StarChild/questions/question52.html

But what Wesley is asking us about his cube is their aren't too many atoms to give the heat too so how can you dissipate it too?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 03, 2018, 11:35:53 PM
Nick, thanks for expanding on your understanding.
https://www.universetoday.com/136802/can-astronauts-see-stars-space-station/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on November 04, 2018, 11:55:14 AM
This is a working link to the same PDF file:
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/NevilleHodgkinsonGoodNewsYouAreNotYourBrain.pdf 

Gyula 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 04, 2018, 03:21:39 PM
This is a working link to the same PDF file:
https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/NevilleHodgkinsonGoodNewsYouAreNotYourBrain.pdf (https://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/pdf/NevilleHodgkinsonGoodNewsYouAreNotYourBrain.pdf) 

Gyula
Thanks for that Gyula. I recommend the reading of Dr. Eben Alexander's book - Proof of Heaven.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 04, 2018, 07:59:35 PM
NDE is not proof of heaven. There are also negative NDEs, while the people who experienced them were just as respectable as those who had positive experiences. NDEs are only proof that we don't know everything about the brain, but no one claims that we would know everything about the brain.

Believers and the enlightened always try to place the paranormal or the religious in what is beyond human knowledge. Human knowledge is increasing and many places where religion had placed its mysteries have been swept away by science.
In the past we saw lightning as the wrath of Jupiter, rainbow as Diana's scarf, we wondered what the poor man with a harelip had done against God to punish him in this way, we saw the devil in the epileptic, we saw famine or epidemic as divine punishment... All these absurdities have fortunately been eliminated and ridiculed by rational thought and its ability to demonstrate that it was only superstition.

Unfortunately, the lessons of the past are not learned by irrational people who today reproduce the same mistakes as their elders, seeing divine creation in the big bang, AIDS as divine punishment, heaven in NDE or free energy in the raised stones of Stonehenge.
Jupiter? the ruler of Jupiter in my memory of Greek mythology was Apolo (a satan representation and of the American Freemasonry statue of liberty also) as for a spirit world your
in no position to quote either way on that one.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 04, 2018, 09:36:40 PM
Have you ever come across a guy Michel Newton and his publications 'destiny of souls this subject was very popular in the tun of the minimum 2001
He found we had many many lives as if we are trapped in some sort of loop, I'm afraid I think he might have a point where we are part of a spiritual
a group with players we are each connected to and a purpose to fulfill in our lives journey,m there are others like John Edwards with that same gift or
curse depending on your view but one instinctively knows if someone you're connected with dies.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 05, 2018, 01:14:17 AM

Some comment about Selflooped FE currently in Patent office
https://youtu.be/cywvTgiTebQ (https://youtu.be/cywvTgiTebQ)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 05, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
Have a look at this then     https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/31/3b/ba/b873f8fea482c7/US6362718.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 06, 2018, 08:00:21 AM
What is "electrostatic phenomena" ? What makes some peace "electrostatic" ? How you measure it ?  What is is POINT ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 06, 2018, 08:18:06 AM
What is "electrostatic phenomena" ? What makes some peace "electrostatic" ? How you measure it ?  What is is POINT ?
Simple go to Google prompt, type in your question, look for an answer. Click on one.

answer https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=electrostatic+phenomena&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB813GB813&oq=%22electrostatic+phenomena&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.18836j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on November 06, 2018, 04:14:54 PM
What is "electrostatic phenomena" ? What makes some peace "electrostatic" ? How you measure it ?  What is is POINT ?

Hi Forest. I think by 'electrostatic phenomena' Wesley may mean 'electrostatic induction', but
Wesley would have to explain exactly what he means there. :) 

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 06, 2018, 04:51:58 PM
If we are talking that version, Electrostatic charge use to be a problem in the 60s back in the days of nylon clothes and shoe soles and particularly in high rise apartments and offices particularly when touching a metallic filing cabinet. It was also a big problem for the early 50s and 60s RAF pilots with the fuselage charging up with high altitude static potentials with deathly results til they started putting carbon etc in with the rubber mixture.
Tesla and others used laden jars to collect the stuff as they were made of glass.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on November 07, 2018, 06:49:52 AM
Hi Wesley and members,
I am posting this Anomaly related to accelerated frequency output as just discovered from the kapanadze device of Akula.I also considered this device a Electron accelerator device.

The output of the kapanadze coil with 10nf 2kv ceramic cap and 5watt bulb in parallel produce around 36khz unfiltered waveform.In Akula circuit there is a low frequency line filter then a 5nf cap is connected at output.
But the input of  the IGBT gate is driven at around 12khz.This is without powering on the Tesla coil yet.The 26 turns of toroid does seems to play a role only if 40nf 1kv ceramic capacitor is connected at it's output as shown in video.
I am still little lost as this is achieved merely by trial and error method using various hv ceramic capacitor at my disposal.
My youtube video posted today to reveal this Anomaly related to the input and output frequency.Screenshot was extracted from uncut video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o2Ecwd71lU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o2Ecwd71lU)
----------------------------------------
Using resonance nothing new was achieved since output frequency would be the same as the input frequency.Kapandze coil would behave like a step up  transformer but Air core.
Yes i am little lost at this point also because the last round i achieved pure 80khz sine-wave at output only if tesla coil was activated.But 100nf 2kv cap was used at output.But i did not record all the configuration made the last round around 1 year ago.Then took a year break from this device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Tynoo on November 07, 2018, 10:47:23 AM
Hi Magpwr

Congratulations for your work.The last scheme that is out there...maybe it helps!
See the green and red circle, feeback to the IR 2153 oscillator.

https://postimg.cc/7f8dFy3x

Regards
Tynoo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 07, 2018, 11:43:50 AM
Magpwr,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzSBWJu24gU
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on November 07, 2018, 01:16:42 PM
Magpwr,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzSBWJu24gU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzSBWJu24gU)
Hi Hoppy,
I have seen the video have also achieved the damping type of waveform for some other configuration depending on the capacitor value used at output coil.She tried to show 1/2 and 1/3 harmonics as well but the waveform does looks very distorted.

----------------------
Honestly the hint i have not mentioned  but was shown in Tariel Kapanadze video.
Tariel was actually using much lower frequency via spark plug in order to shock kapanadze coil to self oscillate at a much higher frequency than the input.

If you try pulsing a typical step up coil manually(low frequency)you may get bulb to light from the back emf.
But in order to power higher load there would have to be some kind of high frequency ringing happening in the kapanadze like coil.
This which we have not figured out on how to unlock fully.


Akula was using around 1.7Mhz much higher frequency to achieve similar feat.


The only trick left is how to apply low frequency to unlock kapanadze coil such that it will yield higher frequency.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 07, 2018, 02:42:26 PM
Magpwr,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzSBWJu24gU
Magpwr and hoppy, both interesting videos isn't it golden ratio you want here?   ie  1,2,3,5 etc

I tried using a pic chip a few years ago to generate the sequence with EW 50/50 outputs it starts to get complicated
with a micro and you need a vast amount of memory and you get jitter and 4 bits is the maximum.

If you look at the TK glass box the backboard has a pile of power transistors and other components
you don't suppose e is using simple logic to get golden ratio numbers and thus harmonics as an accelerator.

Any way to decide by 3 is easy with a CD4013 and a CD4093, as an xor gate it couldn't be easier
I will post a circuit later.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 07, 2018, 04:04:21 PM
Read the section entitled: 'ON THE LIGHT PHENOMENA PRODUCED BY HIGH-FREQUENCY CURRENTS OF HIGH POTENTIAL AND GENERAL REMARKS RELATING TO THE SUBJECT.' in the following link:

https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/light-and-other-high-frequency-phenomena (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/light-and-other-high-frequency-phenomena)
Is Kapanadze using a Tesla plasma lighting effect using high frequency and high potential on regular light bulbs to achieve high illumination from a conversion of a low power, low frequency input??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on November 08, 2018, 05:00:55 PM
Hi Wesley. In my opinion, unless a person can at least show a video reasonably demonstrating that a
particular configuration produces 'over unity', or at least shows an interesting or unusual effect,
then any 'theories' and schematics, etc. that someone presents are likely not going to get too
much traction. It will likely just be seen as more unproven speculation to be added to the mountain
that can already be found here. This should really be a given at this point. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 08, 2018, 05:17:56 PM


7. look at video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs) ( no sound)
Fabrication of a KNO3 capacitor
Explanation of the video is in point below Note2a
==============================================================================

Ferroelectric  Capacitor

The construction of a KNO3 capacitor, and the hysteresis loop it displays.
The circuit used is the standard Sawyer-Tower circuit.
From TLP: Ferroelectric materials, http://www.msm.cam.ac.uk/doitpoms/tlp... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=r45Jl3cL7SRh50ErEBXfmaYFQQB8MTU0MTc4MjU0N0AxNTQxNjk2MTQ3&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.msm.cam.ac.uk%2Fdoitpoms%2Ftlplib%2Fferroelectrics%2Ffabrication.php&event=video_description&v=I_PFO4xIgJQ)
the link is not working but: there is copy  here explaining what video is about  https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/printall.php (https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/printall.php)
For these who want to know more  https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/index.php (https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/index.php)


It will help also  to look  at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WnddW5gZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0WnddW5gZI)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7SkE5pERtA)
Ferroelectric capacitor

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroelectric_capacitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroelectric_capacitor)



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 09, 2018, 03:16:36 AM
Note#3
from video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs)

Square hysteresis:
Quote
What the square S-curve hysteresis loop means is that, in one region of operation, with only a very tiny voltage change,
you can get a rather enormous current change from that capacitor. 
In another region of operation, you can get a very large voltage change from the capacitor for a very small current change. 
In other words, biased into one region, you have essentially a voltage device. 
In the other region, you have essentially a current device.  Neither device will "cost" you very much energy to operate it in its region. 
However, if you then nonlinearly mix the two outputs just right, as we filed on methods of doing, then bingo!
You had a mixer device whose output now had both large current and large power, but you "paid for" and input not nearly so much "energy dissipation"
(remember, engineers calculate energy dissipation flow, never energy transport flow!)
to the mixer as what would be output by the mixer.
 The whole question is this. 
We all know about ordinary nonlinear mixing and mixers.   
We know that two signals can indeed be mixed nonlinearly.
Can we build a nonlinear mixer and a dual circuit, where we feed a voltage-like signal in and also a current-like signal in
to the mixer, get the two combined into a high voltage, high current signal output, and do that without back-field coupling onto the two input "signals"
to force equal energy dissipation in the input

3a
Fabrication of a KNO3 ferroelectric capacitor
A capacitor can be made from potassium nitrate (KNO3), which is ferroelectric below 120°C.
(The temperature dependence of ferroelectrics will be explained later.)
The following video clip shows the construction of a KNO3 capacitor, and the hysteresis loop it displays.
The circuit used is the standard Sawyer-Tower circuit.
The result is a hysteresis loop.
This arises from the fact that a system does not respond immediately to a given set of external conditions.
Rather, there is a history dependence and this is the basis for memory (two states are possible in E=0).
 doitpoms@msm.cam.ac.uk, © University of Cambridge DoITPoMS, Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy, University of Cambridge

3b.

Tom Bearden:
Quote
Ferroelectric Capacitors and the Magnetic Resonance Amplifier
In a nonlinear ferroelectric capacitor there are three major nonlinear processes involved, so it is possible to carefully choose and arrange
conditions so that the current through the capacitor moves against the voltage across its terminals.


With adroit switching and timing, and some consideration for resonance effects, it is in theory possible to use such highly nonlinear effects in a circuit to allow
(1) an overpotential at the terminals of the battery as a reaction from the ferroelectric capacitor,
(2) consequent recharging of the battery via that back potential on the battery side, while the load is also being powered,
(3) consequent driving of the load on the load side of the terminals, and
(4) having a bypass ferroelectric capacitor across the terminals of the battery, where the capacitor is in the "current against the voltage" condition.

McLain and Wooten patented a great little MRA (magnetic Resonance Amplifier) system, based on that application.
 Dr. Robert Bass, a very fine electrodynamicist of exceptional knowledge, experience, and ability wrote the patent for them, and assisted in their work.
 For that he was persecuted, unjustly attacked, and suffered financial difficulties.
The "system" does not forgive highly qualified scientists who take a serious interest in "perpetual motion machines" — as permissible Maxwellian
open dissipative systems are erroneously and derogatorily labeled by the orthodox scientific community.
 Any scientist violating that inquisition suffers the consequences.
After technical discussions back and forth, the Patent Office even notified
Wooten and McLain that the patent had been accepted and the patent would be issued. 
Within days, to their consternation the patent was rejected and that was the end of that.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on November 09, 2018, 08:09:18 AM
Note#3
from video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs)

Square hysteresis:

3a
Fabrication of a KNO3 ferroelectric capacitor
A capacitor can be made from potassium nitrate (KNO3), which is ferroelectric below 120°C.
(The temperature dependence of ferroelectrics will be explained later.)
The following video clip shows the construction of a KNO3 capacitor, and the hysteresis loop it displays.
The circuit used is the standard Sawyer-Tower circuit.
The result is a hysteresis loop.
This arises from the fact that a system does not respond immediately to a given set of external conditions.
Rather, there is a history dependence and this is the basis for memory (two states are possible in E=0).
 doitpoms@msm.cam.ac.uk, © University of Cambridge DoITPoMS, Department of Materials Science and Metallurgy, University of Cambridge

3b.

Tom Bearden:


Wesley

hi stivep,
I recall there was mentioned of S-curve hysteresis capacitor as one of the important requirement in one of the free-energy device i can't recall if it was Don smith or someone else.This was way before i even stumble upon Kapanadze discussion.
I can only recall fragmented information from my memory (Only Human)-There was mentioned of one of the American base company that manufacture this type of S-curve hysteresis capacitor for the Navy or military.The last thing i can recall from my head that this type of capacitor was not available to public.Around 10years have past from my last research related to this cap.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 09, 2018, 12:10:43 PM
Hi Wesley, So how big is this capacitor and how do we build such a capacitor to work in this device and have you any more build information?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 09, 2018, 10:52:20 PM
SolarLab thank you for update
=============================================
Thank you very much  to speedy125  (https://overunity.com/profile/speedy125.79102/)
The new member for  helping me to find links with Ferrocapacitor
Please look at:
topic
Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze
Replay #6264   March 31,2011    Page 418  https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg280009/#msg280009 (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg280009/#msg280009)
          #6297    April 03,2011      Page 420  https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg280255/#msg280255 (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg280255/#msg280255)
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Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 10, 2018, 12:48:28 AM
NONE LINEAR CFAPACITORS
https://www.ferrodevices.com/1/297/files/chapter4-theoryofferroelectriccapacitors.pdf


THE TESLA TOWER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ATzLkr9JXk&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 10, 2018, 09:24:30 PM
http://eng.sepc.ac.cn/images/mbs1.png  do you see energy here ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on November 10, 2018, 09:48:12 PM
I see energy every where. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 11, 2018, 01:24:24 AM
everything is energy a wave to be exact

Should I say some of you are completely ignorant?
You do not see immediate money than you do not care about me and anything else.
I do not accuse you about lack of understanding due to the fact that the sucker game is at your level of everyday study.
I'm getting help from Country of Tesla, but not much from you yet.

That's because perhaps we are having issues comprehending how it actually works at this stage.
I don't use ''understand'' as the word means just that to stand-under to admit to a contract of control  :-X its a legal terminology from class levels
unlike to comprehend something ;)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 11, 2018, 01:41:08 PM
The MEG is a fundamental misunderstanding of Bearden that is tirelessly maintained from year to year as an urban legend, while of course it has never provided any energy.

This misunderstanding consists in believing that a parametric modification is made at a zero energy cost (the Steorn motor was based on the same error). Of course not.
In order for the switching coils to change the permeability of the controlled area, they must supply energy.

E=-dΦ/dt is always correct but different from -L*di/dt when L is not constant. When there is a change in permeability, L changes, and therefore the correct formula is E = -dΦ/dt = -d(L.I)/dt. This means that the product of the instantaneous values of I AND L must be integrated over time.

This is a consequence of the superposition of fields: although permeability is modified when the fields change, two fields from two sources always simply add up at any time but taking into account the instantaneous values of permeability and fields at this exact time.
The fields add they do not multiply! However, a modulation is a multiplication, not an addition. Therefore the flux from the Bearden's switching coils cannot modulate another flux, the result is only the sum of the two at any given time and the counter-EMF from the payload affects both.
Thanks for that I posted it out of interest to others, but at the same time one should note just because someone has a patent on something doesn't mean it works  8).

Also has any noticed backchat on the net that NATO is taking over western world governments in 2030 won't this mean the end of world individual sovereignty and the rule of the military eval flys? the age of Aquarius and the Georgia stones. :-\
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 12, 2018, 06:18:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhjHzdDYRXA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhjHzdDYRXA)
 Chet have you been on holiday Wesley already commented ;D ;D on this link last week
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 13, 2018, 01:55:39 AM
I suppose one could always salvage the nitrate from a cold pack and mix with potassium (salt) minus the sulphate wait to crystal and wala!

see if it works
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 13, 2018, 02:55:46 PM
The ferro cap re-see charge circuit so what's the difference between this cap and a bunch of super caps or a load of poly film dumping it's
energy into a tank coil at the bottom of a tuned Tesla coil, to get energy out you need to put it in just remember that too frequency and
capsize are critical.
Has anyone tried using a triac instead of a spark gap that way you can lower the voltage but current can then be a problem?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 13, 2018, 08:39:10 PM
Speedy 25
Hi Wesley!

Surface waves-general  knowledge :

1.   https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/ (https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/)
1a. same but in PDF http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf (http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf)

Review of Electromagnetic Surface
Waves: 1960 Through 1987 (Naval Weapons Centar)  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=00f3c31d269f6574JmltdHM9MTY3NzU0MjQwMCZpZ3VpZD0zN2IwYzNmMC1jZDk4LTYzNDUtMWZmYi1kMTM2Y2NkYjYyNzImaW5zaWQ9NTE1OA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=37b0c3f0-cd98-6345-1ffb-d136ccdb6272&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9hcHBzLmR0aWMubWlsL3N0aS9wZGZzL0FEQTE5NzI3OC5wZGY&ntb=1 (http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf)

Isolation of the Zenneck Surface Wave: http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/lcs/previous/LCS2011/LCS1137.pdf (http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/lcs/previous/LCS2011/LCS1137.pdf)




==========================================================



https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=541 (https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=541)
For these who are into understanding surface wave  please  watch this video from  the beginning.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_knowledge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_knowledge)


Wesley
   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 14, 2018, 02:10:58 AM
corrected link:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf (http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf)

Quote
Barlow and Brown define a surface wave as
"...one that propagates along an interface between two different media without radiation,
such radiation being construed to mean energy converted from the surface-wave field to some other form (Reference 7)."

Since this definition covers a lot of territory, one of the major problems
with the surface-wave literature is
the proliferation of different names for what is essentially the same physical phenomenon (References 2 and 8 ) 

These  waves:
-Zenneck,
-Norton,
-Sommerfeld-Goubau,
-inhomogeneous, -
radial,
-axial,
-azimuthal,
-lateral,
-creeping,
etc.-are all (at least in some sense) a type of or associated with a type of surface wave.

Throughout this report we will try to clarify all such terms and use them correctly
in association with the appropriate physical geometry or guiding process   

From the quote of article  (link above)
we see that:
1. Viziv used Zenneck Wave as one of the names.
2. that may be intentional as:
a- there is  little to none  publicly available  literature about it.
b.-There is  estimated half of a billion dollars  at stake  from the investors.
c.- investors must contribute     and do not understand to much
d.- public must  do not interfere and do not understand to much

2. form of phenomena in question can be ironically simple but just in some part of it
matching one basket of all of mentioned names for Zenneck waves

3.  Viziv might not have patent rights to any of  these waveforms so  how they can protect their investment?
B
y means of scrambling access to  the receiver that must match  the same algorithm
to gain access to energy that is already converted to  Zenneck wave  or any other name  they hide it  at.
By simple words:
You have Viziv transmitter and the receiver is like your satellite dish.
The satellite signal is out. All you need is to access it. and that is what you are paying for
- the code
. 
But if you just couple straight right  into the  Zenneck Wave  or whatever name you give to it they going to go bankrupt.
But if you use your own energy from your own water mill   and use Zenneck Wave as means of transportation than you can sale it to your neighbors
or power your own electric car in withing boundaries of your own area of coverage. ( city , county, state)



Picture :
Red rectangle:  explains controversy   about different names associated with Zenneck Wave
Blue rectangle: explains  simple conditions needed for Zenneck Wave and its associated  other names   for the same,  to exist.

At the bottom  of the page #4  please look at  propagation phenomena and types of waves:
-Transverse electric
-Transverse magnetic TM
Transverse magneticTM  is the wave that is  mentioned in :
 https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)
by Viziv.




And now all you need to do is:
- to use the other names used for the same and google it.
- try to find the sense and possible similarity in wording to article published by Zenneck associate
  https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)
- Try to match statements for both.
All of that  does not require knowledge, it is just simple way to compare text.

So what might be the outcome of your  work?:
- money
- ideas for new solution, competitive to Viziv.
- freedom from "energy  distribution guys"
- or the best of all.. turning it all to mutual use for general public.- if you can overcome your selfishness.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 14, 2018, 02:14:24 PM
The ferro cap re-see charge circuit so what's the difference between this cap and a bunch of super caps or a load of poly film dumping it's
energy into a tank coil at the bottom of a tuned Tesla coil, to get energy out you need to put it in just remember that too frequency and
capsize are critical.
Has anyone tried using a triac instead of a spark gap that way you can lower the voltage but current can then be a problem?
Ferroelectric capacitor is a capacitor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor) based on a ferroelectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroelectricity) material.
Traditional capacitors are based on dielectric materials.

1.Ferrocapacitor keeps its state  unchanged till it is changed 
 
Another "animal" that is similar to ferrocapacitor  and using using different names is:
varicap diode, varactor diode, variable capacitance diode, variable reactance diode or tuning diode

2   Capacitor       usually decays  in time by itself
2a Ferrocapacitor usually needs someone to push it for change.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 14, 2018, 04:04:01 PM

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969)

     
Quote
Excitation of the Zenneck wave is examined for both finite and infinit vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground.
The infinite vertical aperture with a Zenneck wave variation is found to excite only the Zenneck wave with NO radiation field.
The finite vertical aperture excites a field which is similar to the Zenneck wave near the aperture but resembles the usual ground wave at large distances.
Numerical results for various aperture heights are given for frequencies of 1 and 10 MHz. Both homogeneous ground and sea water paths are considered
.
From that we know that vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground. -Are the one responsible for phenomena known as Zenneck wave with NO radiation field

http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf)    This is original uncut German article in English translated by
James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC
February 17, 2015

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on November 14, 2018, 05:25:58 PM
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis (http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis) is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 14, 2018, 05:47:56 PM
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis (http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis) is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet
I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf)
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on November 16, 2018, 09:13:06 PM

Zenneck wave is a well-known science.
His teacher was Sommerfled who was the originator of eigenmode theory in waveguide. So far there has not been anyone capable of disproving  any of Sommerfled's theories.

I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf)
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on November 16, 2018, 09:26:45 PM
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis (http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis) is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet




James Corum has done a great job in proving the existence of Zenneck wave. He is also a IEEE member.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on November 16, 2018, 09:32:57 PM
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on November 21, 2018, 06:16:00 PM
Hi SolarLab,

I didn't have any problem with the duplication after having realized that the cable ends must be sort-circuited, not open.
One end is connected to the FG via a coaxial T-shaped connector with a short-circuited middle input. However, my jumpers have a slight impedance so that a small part of the signal passes through and is reflected back and forth many times. For the same reason the scope probes at each end pick up the signal on the jumpers.
 
The first picture shows the comings and goings of a 16ns pulse repeated at a low rate of 797KHz so that we have time to see the reflections in the time of each period.
We can see that the attenuation at -3dB allows more than ten round trips of the pulse, which indicates low losses.

The second image is the signal of the 5 superimposed sine waves generated by the FG, at a frequency of 15.94 MHz for the lowest (the others are multiple).

The last image is the signals probed at the ends of the cable, FG side for the yellow trace, and the other for the purple trace.

The time between the maximum of one trace and the minimum of the other corresponds to the travel time of 30 ns in my 6 m line, velocity coefficient 0.66c.

This is the temporal signal while Gorchilin's animation showed the spatial representation, so it is necessary to do some mental gymnastics to understand that the two correspond, except that the amplitudes of the positive and negative oscillations are not exactly balanced, I don't know why.
Don't trust the volt level of the traces, I had a problem with a probe and the impedance multipliers of the probe are not declared correctly in the scope (but this is not related to the positive/negative imbalance).

In any case, a standing wave is always the superposition of at least two progressive waves which propagate in opposite directions. Progressive waves are always "hidden" in standing waves, so for me the Gorchilin's configuration is just a phase arrangement, it doesn't bring anything new. Spatially the energy is still static.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 23, 2018, 09:17:17 PM
Reason for the study:
Viziv wireless tower to transmit energy around the earth with no wires.
due to:

 strong statement
from  Viziv officer and scientist James F. Corum, Ph.D.CPG Technologies, LLC February 17, 2015
who says  in his  paper, nothing less than - inverse square law does not apply so there are no losses. (in horizontal plane- along the earth)The exact wording used is:
Quote
if the  total  current  strength  in  every  source-segment  remains invariable  the  field strength at any distance from the source also remains alike.
The field of the Zenneck wave for a certain normalized sheath-current strength may be designated by EB, HB Let the frequency be the same as that of the dipole.   
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf)
and
K.L. Corum, Brigadier General (Ret.) M.W. Miller, Ph.D., and J.F. Corum, Ph.D
SURFACE WAVES and THE‘ CRUCIAL’ PROPAGATION EXPERIMENT*
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)
The exact wording used is:
Quote
Let us assume that such a current density has been set up along the surface of the Earth, emanating from some injection point
(This condition has been  established  in  practice  with  the  use  of Texzon’s field-matched  surface  wave  probes.)
 By  the  generalized  form  of Ohm’s law, such a current creates a radial electric field,over an     equivalent     circular     aperture of     infinite     radius     on     the     x-y     plane,
and
Quote
Zenneck wave ( is a transmission line mode) without exciting the radiation field!
In point:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200)

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PART#2 of
Introduction to Zenneck Wave for beginners

what is interface:
look at picture below.
-The Zenneck wave, Zenneck surface wave or Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface wave is an inhomogeneous
or non-uniform electromagnetic plane wave incident at the complex Brewster angle onto a planar or spherical boundary
interface between two homogeneous media having different dielectric constants.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-1)[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-Goubau_1951-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-Barlow-Brown_1962a-4)[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-Collin_2004-5)[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-Corum-Miller-Corum_2016-6)[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave#cite_note-Corum-Corum_Bell_2016-7):p. 198
- https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/ (https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/)
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave


Summary of part #1 and part #2:
-Most of literature for  surface wave is dedicated to  visible light bandwidth of  TEM( transverse electromagnetic wave) -Viziv mention that some experiments  have been conducted at frequency of
-150 MHz.      Fig. 3.
-
  52 MHz       Fig. 4.
-    1.82 MHz (
Photo 2.)
-
frequency of few  Hz as low as Shumann frequency , was also  mentioned but I lost link to article.
Quote
Fig. 3.  Burrows’ 1936 measured Seneca Lake data over a range from 1 m to 2 km. Curve (1) is the lossless inverse field (Hertz).
 Curve (2) is the van der Pol-Norton ground wave   over a lossy medium (Seneca Lake) with measured data. Curve (3) is the
 Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface  wave over a lossy medium (Seneca Lake). Curve (4) is the lossless dielectric surface wave.
 Curve (1) (the “inverse field”) varies as 1/r. Curve (4)varies as 1/√r.
 Burrows used a dipole antenna at 150 MHz.
at- https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)

This technology may be also related but may not be as well. to Tariel Kapanadze  Free Energy device.
I have witnessed his device working  and found it legit.
But  there was report that when  Tariel presented his device on the island , lights in  Motel from the other side of the water dividing Island from  steady land  lost  its power for around 70%
This was the Motel  where  crew of Tariel Kapanadze was residing during the show time.
So it this is true than
Motel was acting as transmitter of energy  and Tariel  device on the Island was acting as receiver.
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=684
If that is so than Tariel Kapanadze has the rights  to the technology on the ground of  priority  rights of the earlier filing date.
He filed his application in 2008.
That application was rejected

  Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 24, 2018, 11:03:57 AM
Hi, this looks like a retro pic from a practical television mag!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be&t=684

See doctored image below!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 24, 2018, 02:53:46 PM
Related to Goubau's article, it should be noted that the propagation depends strongly on the nature of the surface.
Zenneck waves/ surface waves - do not radiate. They move along the interface. They are invisible in perpendicular  plane ( vertically) above and below the interface  (earth surface).   
Long and medium radio waves propagate very well over the sea, which is a much better conductor than the land. Spain is about 400 km from my position with only the Atlantic Ocean in between. Spanish MW radio stations are perfectly received here with strong signals, even during the day, while stations 100 km away in the countryside are poorly heard.
Anyway, I am not able to extract here the slightest milliwatt from the hundreds of KW sent from Spain.
Yes you are.  https://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/rf-noise-sensitivity/receiver-signal-to-noise-ratio.php (https://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/rf-noise-sensitivity/receiver-signal-to-noise-ratio.php)
Gain of your antenna  is directly responsible for that mW..
Assuming frequency of all listed by you signals is within AM bandwith, than:
- direction of propagation
- Line-of-sight propagation ( terrain )  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation)
- attenuation of the ground vs sea.
- distance is always obeying  inverse square law.
And that is what makes some of AM station from particular direction of  far away stations stronger.

Radiant energy is useful only if the energy receiver is coupled to the transmitter, which involves interaction between transmitter and receiver, otherwise the energy is not directed towards the receiver, and it is radiated even if no load is connected, which is a total waste

Antenna of Tx is the load to that Tx.( transmitter)
So if you apply Dummy Load instead of an Antenna than
-Dummy Load  is purely resistive matching impedance of Tx , and all energy is dissipated by that load. No radiation is taking place!!. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_load (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_load)
Radiant Energy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy) obeys inverse square law rules.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law). radiation is taking place in all directions
(unless limited by characteristic of an antenna)

Based on material  pointed by Viziv  inverse square law does not apply  to Zenneck Wave ( zenneck surface Wave)
Quote
Norton surface wave, other types of surface wave are the non-radiative Zenneck surface wave or Zenneck-Sommerfeld surface wave,
they are  the  trapped surface wave and the gliding wave. https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave (https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 24, 2018, 06:43:55 PM


Sonoluminescence was covered by me in https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=388 (https://youtu.be/op4GgbE8xWI?t=388)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 25, 2018, 01:25:10 AM
  AG: 
  Don't know what clip you are referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be&t=684

The quote strip on that post takes you to it, does for me. It's close to the end
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 25, 2018, 09:43:05 AM
1898 11/30
“Tesla Describes his Efforts in Various Fields of Work” Electrical Review
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As to the idea of rendering the energy of the sun available for industrial purposes, it fascinated me early but I must admit it was only long after I discovered the rotating magnetic field that it took a firm hold upon my mind. In assailing the problem I found two possible ways of solving it. Either power was to be developed on the spot by converting the energy of the sun’s radiations or the energy of vast reservoirs was to be transmitted economically to any distance. Though there were other possible sources of economical power, only the two solutions mentioned offer the ideal feature of power being obtained without any consumption of material. After long thought I finally arrived at two solutions, but on the first of these, namely, that referring to the development of power in any locality from the sun’s radiations, I can not dwell at present. The system of power transmission without wires, in the form in which I have described it recently, originated in this manner. Starting from two facts that the earth was a
conductor insulated in space, and that a body cannot be charged without causing an equivalent displacement of electricity in the earth, I undertook to construct a machine suited for creating as large a displacement as possible of the earth’s electricity.”


The mistake is assumption he thought about solar panels.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 25, 2018, 11:33:52 AM
  If that video at the end is from Old Scientist, well, he could barely light a florescent bulb, from his wireless transfer video while using big bike wheel sized coils, and a spark gap set up.
   His test on wireless transfer from one coil to the receiving coil was about 8 inches distance, and barely and unevenly lighting a florescent tube.  Not too impressive, nor the video that you posted a link to. Jacking the voltage up by a factor of 3, but unable to show it doing anything. Oh, the capacitor stores it. Like for a rainy day?
   The device from YT video that you posted previously from jb-n107lab, was shown self running, and there is a recent video made about 4 months ago. Interesting... and supposed to be self running, as shown in his previous video.  While no other self runners are being shown, at least that I'm aware of.
 
Don't be fooled by the lack of wasted radiation into space the focus is along the tube with bifilar wound L1 but that wasn't the focus there it was the waveform in
the blue box generated by the 'spark gap' was producing a 'SNAP' effect like a 'pistol shrimp'! he shows a threefold back for 1 in with that setup. Watch it again and observe every detail.  see graph on the bottom of the previous page.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 25, 2018, 12:00:38 PM
Related to Goubau's article, it should be noted that the propagation depends strongly on the nature of the surface. Long and medium radio waves propagate very well over the sea, which is a much better conductor than the land. Spain is about 400 km from my position with only the Atlantic Ocean in between. Spanish MW radio stations are perfectly received here with strong signals, even during the day, while stations 100 km away in the countryside are poorly heard.
Anyway, I am not able to extract here the slightest milliwatt from the hundreds of KW sent from Spain. Radiant energy is useful only if the energy receiver is coupled to the transmitter, which involves interaction between transmitter and receiver, otherwise the energy is not directed towards the receiver, and it is radiated even if no load is connected, which is a total waste.
Any DX er will tell you the signal is bounced off the ionosphere relating to its wavelength a bit like Luxembourg in the 60s pop culture but is that true? but how much POWER can you really capture from RF smog? When i was a school kid there was this old guy in phoneadeck's R&D he was an amateur radio enthusiast he had some homebrew radio with a triode and an output pentode 10 watts he could put a 100watt bulb in the output load an output the thing to over full brightness blackening the inside coating with a static charge on the outside. Explain that.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on November 25, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Zenneck waves/ surface waves - do not radiate. They move along the interface. They are invisible in perpendicular  plane ( vertically) above and below the interface  (earth surface).
...

The waves described in Goubau's article (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf) of which you provided the link propagate along the surface, and consist of the magnetic component that is along the surface, and also the electrical component that is in a vertical plane, perpendicular to the surface on which the wave propagates, but is vanishing a few wavelengths above. Although it propagates on the surface, the wave occupies a volume above the surface (of at least a half-wave height).

Any wave that propagates by carrying energy, radiates by definition. The waves in Goubau's paper radiate. If they didn't radiate, we wouldn't need the hundreds of KW that power AM radio transmitters. It is the fact that the wave carries energy from the source that makes us call it a "radiant wave".

Radiant waves are a solution to remote energy transmission only if they are focused between transmitter and receiver. This does not depend on whether the wave is a Zenneck wave or not, but on the ability of the wave to maintain its energy volume when it moves. When the Zenneck wave is an electromagnetic wave transmitted from a radiant pylon antenna, it travels in all directions 360° around the pylon, while remaining along land or sea surfaces.

If you want a wave that doesn't spread, you don't need Zenneck waves especially, but solitons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton).
The problem is that we don't know yet how to produce this type of wave in free space (even on a surface).

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 25, 2018, 12:30:44 PM
This might be off topic but has anyone come across ARTICLE 13 IT COULD KILL THE INTERNET IN THE eu over copyright FULL STOP
STOP IT BEFORE IT BECOMES LAW!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 25, 2018, 01:11:44 PM
Part #3  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :
this part will be re edited  during today and more information will be  included.
For these who do not yet realized how important  this study is to the whole world please go to  links below:
1. historical path 
Picture #3
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en)

2. relation to major players in Viziv.
a.-Dr. James F. Corum (Ph.D. in Electrical Engineering, Ohio State 1974)
b.- Kenneth L. Corum(B.A. in Physics,  Gordon College  1976; Engineering graduate studies at  U. Mass.)
Comment: relation between these two Corum  - they  might be brothers.
c-Brigadier General (Ret.) Michael W. Miller (B.A. University of New Orleans 1981; MBA  University  of  North  Dakota  1988;  Ph.D.,  Walden  University  2011.)
Comment : this US Army General  is a medical doctor Healthcare management professional
but he is now
-      President  and CEO of TEXZON Technologies (Red Oak, TX),
-and President, Viziv Technologies, LLC

d.-http://vizivtechnologies.com/about-us/   here you  have rest of the guys in Viziv
impressive list of people big money big corporations and  oil  industry interest.

Wesley



Selected by date chronology  of posts  about  VIziv  estimated half a billion  US $ investment in energy transfer without the wire. 
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282)

Thank you Francis from France  for your participation 73.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on November 25, 2018, 01:18:27 PM
Any DX er will tell you the signal is bounced off the ionosphere relating to its wavelength a bit like Luxembourg in the 60s pop culture but is that true?
It's true. It's the great discovery of the radioamateurs with the first US/France (F8BF) contact in shortwaves in 1924 while at this time it was thought that only long waves could reach long distance. Then shortwaves were used everywhere in the world.
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but how much POWER can you really capture from RF smog? When i was a school kid there was this old guy in phoneadeck's R&D he was an amateur radio enthusiast he had some homebrew radio with a triode and an output pentode 10 watts he could put a 100watt bulb in the output load an output the thing to over full brightness blackening the inside coating with a static charge on the outside. Explain that.
A radio transmitter is an alternating current generator.
Compared to the mains current of electricity suppliers, it is only the frequency that changes. The former works in frequencies from tens of KHz to hundreds of GHz, the later at 50 or 60 Hz.

So when you connect a lamp to a radio transmitter, the lamp is simply powered by a current at 7 MHz or 145 MHz for example, while when you connect it to the mains, the current is at 50 or 60 Hz.
The difference is in the possible couplings. At frequencies starting from MHz, the dimensions of coils, capacitive plates, lines... have significant dimensions compared to wavelengths, which makes their coupling, possibly by tuned circuits, easy and efficient at some distance around the wavelength, by recovering almost all the power supplied by the transmitter.
This is not the case at 50 or 60 Hz where there is hardly anything but the core transformer that couples efficiently, with primary and secondary very close to each other unlike RF couplings.

When the waves propagate along the surface of the earth or the sea (daytime propagation of waves in AM radio), they spread all around the antennas. Even if there were no loss in the ground, even if the antennas were very directional, the attenuation would be in 1/r².
When they are reflected on the ionized layers of the high atmosphere, only part is reflected (the rest is lost in space). They can also be reflected several times between the ground and the ionized layers as in a waveguide, attenuating with each reflection. In all cases they also spread out, which implies attenuation in 1/r² in addition to all other attenuations. This is the reason why the radio receiver receives only few µV to hundreds of µV that must be amplified. A good receiver amplifies the signal by up to 130 dB so that it can be used, it is enormous, which underlines the extreme weakness of radio signals after a long path.

About Luxembourg in the 60s pop culture, their transmiter had a power of 1300 KW (http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Radio/Audio-Video-Photo/RTL%20208/RTL%20208%20-%20Station%20announcement,%20broadcasting%20with%20the%20power%20of%201.3%20million%20watts.mp3) (it's a mp3 jingle  :) ) in the 1970's, and the signal could be heard even in Canada during night propagation which allowed reflections on the ionised atmospheric layers.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 26, 2018, 06:28:26 AM
What let you think that there are waves? Funny idea.
   Maybe this video might change your views,  or not.   https://youtu.be/5AUA7XS0TvA
   
   There's a lot more than just waves out there. It's the "Cosmic Soup" which Tesla and others have mentioned, repeatedly.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 26, 2018, 01:08:41 PM
The result to us is simple.
Russians might push Tariel to give it for free to the world.
And not because the Russian government is so kind and nice, but because Russians will have no choice.
They rather let all world energy industry suffer instead of just Russians being punished by lack of sale of their gas and oil.

And that is why  word [/sub]"if" is important in science .

Wesley


yeh what if?  well if they do can they please do it before the EU which is probably a Vatican controlled gagging order to kill the internet with its evil article 11 the hyperlink and  13 other peoples CONTENT BOTH ARE USED IN OUR DAILY USE HERE!
and THUS plunges us back into the dark ages, and Russias idea of free energy is most probably a stick of radioactive material coated in a semiconductor material
with power cables running from it.  JOKE.  Yeah so bring it on! Mint the Burman cat gives a groaning agreement  ;D
But wait couldn't we find some way to use their evil laws against 'THEM'?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 26, 2018, 04:11:26 PM
Wesly very interesting post thanks foir that one!
Can I get your opinion on this one (i'm OK on translation. but is it BS or fact without actually building it ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8q8CWTjpAY
I would appreciate any positive feedback on this post

NickZ in the PDF 'cold war secrets' it talks about sharp narrow pulse and a long recovery period a relay' if you look at Nelson's
old website on YouTube most of his stuff was started with a battery and a vibration sound he showed a modified relay coil
why not start there but I think you will need to experiment for the correct timing of the LC and on off ratio. Mind boggling!  8) 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 26, 2018, 05:10:51 PM
Hi Wesley,
Have you seen anywhere where anyone associated with Zenneck wave research is claiming
that a COP > 1 can be achieved using Zenneck wave technology? Wireless Power transmission
on a large scale is cool if someone can make it work, but if it if it doesn't produce a COP > 1 then
it seems it is not all that significant.
COP more than one is nothing new or uncommon.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-efficiency-and-COP (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-efficiency-and-COP)

But as Nick Z said we do not know what kind of implication by means of interaction we can expect from Zenneck Wave and its consequences in physical world.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 26, 2018, 05:17:39 PM
   AG:   Nelson will not totally disclose his secret, as well.   Why don't you start there, instead? Let us know how it goes.
because I'm working on other ideas and already stretched with lack resources and if we all work on different
things we might get somewhere if we help each other

What happened to the view that electron stress produced an excess of charged-energy pos and neg separation? back to the old hammer shrimp again?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 26, 2018, 07:13:44 PM
Wesly very interesting post thanks foir that one!
Can I get your opinion on this one (i'm OK on translation. but is it BS or fact without actually building it ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8q8CWTjpAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8q8CWTjpAY)
I would appreciate any positive feedback on this post

NickZ in the PDF 'cold war secrets' it talks about sharp narrow pulse and a long recovery period a relay' if you look at Nelson's
old website on YouTube most of his stuff was started with a battery and a vibration sound he showed a modified relay coil
why not start there but I think you will need to experiment for the correct timing of the LC and on off ratio. Mind boggling!  8) 8)
Power supply has limited current.
like weak person holding the pile of  wood  in more or less comfortable  position, so his summary vector of power dissipation
uses more or less energy for holding the same load with or without additional losses.
ratio between both primaries winding is 1:1
ratio between primary and secondary is 1:1.5
Power Supply is limited with current.  Control light-bub at PS indicates more or less comfortable to the PS dissipation of available power.
But Energy dissipated at the grid ( outlet) will show you no gain.
And the experimenter does not provide us with any measurement of power delivered to the PS.
There is nothing interesting here taking place.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on November 26, 2018, 07:56:12 PM
COP more than one is nothing new or uncommon.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-efficiency-and-COP (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-efficiency-and-COP)

But as Nick Z said we do not know what kind of implication by means of interaction we can expect from Zenneck Wave and its consequences in physical world.

Wesley

Hi Wesley. Yes, I know what 'COP > 1' represents. :)
So, I take it from your response then that you are not aware of anyone associated
with Zenneck wave research claiming a COP > 1 is possible. The reason I was asking you
this is because Kapanadze has demonstrated an apparent COP of roughly around 60
(based on the the measured power input compared to the approximate power output to the
light bulb bank. There is no indication that I have seen that Kapanadze was using 'Zenneck waves'.
This idea can only be speculation without any indications at all that he was doing so.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 26, 2018, 08:35:14 PM
Hi Wesley. Yes, I know what 'COP > 1' represents. :)
So, I take it from your response then that you are not aware of anyone associated
with Zenneck wave research claiming a COP > 1 is possible. The reason I was asking you
this is because Kapanadze has demonstrated an apparent COP of roughly around 60
(based on the the measured power input compared to the approximate power output to the
light bulb bank. There is no indication that I have seen that Kapanadze was using 'Zenneck waves'.
This idea can only be speculation without any indications at all that he was doing so.
That is interesting Void.
Power measured before interface with traditional equipment not prepared to see real power of Surface Wave should show  ZERO 0V
Tariel did show Self Runner but connected to the ground. By that relation of COP is 0V ratio  to value of  dissipated energy at the output, measured by the load in W.
I agree that :
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This idea can likely be a speculation without any indications at all that he was doing so.
However 
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I'm not aware of anyone associated
with Zenneck wave research claiming a COP > 1 is possible.
But what about the losses?
What  about the inverse square law?

By traditional understanding of laws of conservation of energy ( thermodynamics) there should be no gain unless some kind of interaction I'm not  aware of is present.
Also some statements in Zeneck papers about no losses in relation to the distance from transmitter to the receiver are difficult to  be accepted.
But I might be not enough educated in Zeneck Surface Wave science.
Just the fact that they mentioned it is not only risky  if presented  in front of patent office but courageous.
The origin of no losses can be  analyzed  as well. I do not want to look funny by claiming gain of unknown origin , equaling losses so net value is  zero.
That is why they did not say it in their patents, but in scientific paper   
In  this  case:
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,  if the  total  current  strength  in  every  source-segment  remains  invariable  the  field strength at any distance from the source also remains alike.
page 5 under the picture.
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf (http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 27, 2018, 02:06:24 AM
   That's unfortunate Wesley, that you "can do nothing with it".   Tesla could.   I know what to do with it, so did Kapanadze, but you still don't believe him, nor me. That's ok, I'm not trying to convince anyone.   I know there are others out there that will understand, and know what to do with it. Concerning where any extra energy comes from.   It's the action that counts, words are not enough to see empirical results. And guys like Kapanadze are where the action is at. Good thing that he knew what to do with it.  You saw the proof first hand, that was not enough for you? 
   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_ApR2IxBcY
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 27, 2018, 07:56:42 AM
Think the way Tesla did. Earth is metallic conductor of minimal resistance due to immense size. It's like a slide of very thick copper wire. So we know if a wire is powered by electric current there is magnetic field around the wire. The disturbance in this magnetic field in very small area around the wire cannot dissipate if the wire is insulated and very thick -  like Earth.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 27, 2018, 05:27:48 PM
There is a documentary in YOUTUBE with the guy on the technical guy on site talking about it, he wasn't denying any of it. I found it looking up surface waves it also said HF waves are bounced of the ionosphere and ULF bounce back to earth onto its surface so it is really related.  I'm sorry if the other effects it produces don't agree but it's a really eval device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 27, 2018, 08:11:05 PM
Part #4  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :
this part will be re edited  during today and more information will be  included.
For these who do not yet realize how important  this study is to the whole world please go to  links  at the bottom of this post.below:
Transmitter and receiver of Zenneck Wave.
Today I'm presenting schematic  and Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.
Not much to say. Think about AC source 213
-as  multiform and multiphase signal  of the same amplitude and of very high power.
or
-as  the same form but  multiphase signal  of the same amplitude and of very high power.


Power is send by energy units per time frame,  presumably  without losses.  (Wesley:  Well I have problem to  accept it  as of yet )
This is Viziv secret  to scramble access to this energy by creating algorithm that must be used by receiving station/ electric motor ship/ electric car/
to access the energy transmitted in  this form.
In addition internet and  all communication( TV/telephony/ digital)  including some form of submarine communication  may take advantage of use of the same means of surface wave.



Selected by date chronology  of posts  about  VIziv  estimated half a billion  US $ investment in energy transfer without the wire.

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284) 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 27, 2018, 10:25:02 PM
No but jb-n107lab has taken his self-running video's down he hardly has any vid's now, there was some Russan or Lithuanian guy sounded like Dolometo
I can't find his website anymore and others too.
point is is it because they are all fakes as Hoppy says or did they work ? Still as you say it all helps to pass the time  ;D ;D

PS thanks for skimatic info on part 4 will look through hyper links with interest.

   AG:  Here is jb-n107lab youtube site:           https://youtu.be/QGo0Dd663ow    Last video was posted about 4 months ago. I think that all his videos are there, still.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 27, 2018, 11:03:48 PM
   AG:  Here is jb-n107lab youtube site:           https://youtu.be/QGo0Dd663ow the Last video was posted about 4 months ago. I think that all his videos are there, still.
tHAT IS WIERD! with your hyperlink it goes to it but if I view his videos it does not list them, unless i grab the video name and search for that name and
it does come up with the three-part 7,6 and 4, if you listen carefully there is a tone with a slower pulse (spark gap cap dump of energy into the coil, well that's
what it sounds like.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 28, 2018, 04:55:20 PM
   Hoppy:   The idea with Dr. Stiffler's "diode loop" is that there is no need to provide the needed amperage to the leds.
But with just some fluffy voltage, and tiny amount of mAs, the diode loop along with the gutted AC led bulbs themselves would provide and manufacture their own juice to power the bulbs. "Energy out of thin Air". And that part of it does work as he has stated. Unlike the 0.7v drop that most normal diodes circuits would lose, on each diode placed in line. But, other than that, I don't see all that much benefit, nor is there the normal lumen levels at the bulbs, either. Yet my diode loop system is self running while connected to my small solar panel which maintains the batteries up, each day. And may be a more economical way to go, than using just the simple bulbs and batteries. This is all very hard to prove, because once you connect anything up to the circuit, like scopes, multi meters, etz... You just messed up, how it all works.  So, in case you don't understand where the Doc is coming from:  https://youtu.be/8VRqf8E8VIM
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 28, 2018, 05:37:01 PM
Nick,

Dr Stiffler refers here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbYjqU48Mw) to: "a special frequency that's been known about for hundreds of years being picked up by his PSEC. Self-running - yes, so long as the signal is maintained. Have you worked out what this signal is yet? I would stick with your solar panel to get sufficient milliamps needed to light up your LED's to a usable brightness.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 28, 2018, 05:53:17 PM
   Hoppy:   The idea with Dr. Stiffler's "diode loop" is that there is no need to provide the needed amperage to the leds.
But with just some fluffy voltage, and tiny amount of mAs, the diode loop along with the gutted AC led bulbs themselves would provide and manufacture their own juice to power the bulbs. "Energy out of thin Air".
His explanation sounds like BS to me! Fluffy voltage?? He fails to show how he is generating the AC signal shown on the schematics.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 28, 2018, 06:16:13 PM
Nick,

Dr Stiffler refers here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbYjqU48Mw) to: "a special frequency that's been known about for hundreds of years being picked up by his PSEC. Self-running - yes, so long as the signal is maintained. Have you worked out what this signal is yet? I would stick with your solar panel to get sufficient milliamps needed to light up your LED's to a usable brightness.
   
   Hoppy:
   Not sure where he said that, about the special frequency, but he has mentioned that the 13.5MHz signal is what has worked best for him. My crystal oscillator works best at 12Mhz, and the output at the L3 coil is also a steady 12MHz. Although I tune my coils to 13.5MHz, they seam to work better using the 12MHz crystal oscillator frequency. My rig is on day and night.  The Doc is using a 25v signal generator, for testing and also to provide the AC signal to the diode loop. If that is what you were wondering about. It has been shown on his previous videos
   The PSEC self runner project may have been running on at a different frequency, which I don't recall at this time.
What special frequency has been going on for hundreds of years, is unknown to me. But, it's still about energy from thin air.
   In any case, it is much easier to fine tune onto the  "special frequency" with the SG, than a fixed oscillator, with only moveable ferrite cores to tune with, which don't actually change my frequency, at all. Yet, there is an increase in output at the bulbs while tuning, although the running frequency stays rock steady.   
   I don't know IF the Docs concept concerning the amperage provided by the diode loop along with the led bulbs is correct, or not. But there is something, to the line of switching diodes, along with the series placed led bulbs, that raises the voltage, compared the amount of wattage that would be used normally. Some of these oscillators can run on flea fart power, while producing some minimal light levels.    It's all interesting, in any case. Still the lower lumen levels are the bottle neck, here, in comparison.
   Fluffy voltage was a term that I placed there, not the Doc. However, look at how much amperage jb-n107lab used to start his rig with. So, fluffy voltage it is.  Believe it or not, it's up to you.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 28, 2018, 07:08:57 PM
Nick,

Dr. Stiffler refers here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lbYjqU48Mw) to: "a special frequency that's been known about for hundreds of years being picked up by his PSEC. Self-running - yes, so long as the signal is maintained. Have you worked out what this signal is yet? I would stick with your solar panel to get sufficient milliamps needed to light up your LED's to a usable brightness.
Hoppy SPECIAL 'Freq' if you put 13500000 into your calculator both 1+3+5 = 9 remember what John Lennon said about it also 13500000/ both 9 and 8 divide with no remainder, in fact, any number that a multiple of 432 and some others will work

You both mentioned A Gustov I couldn't get that Tesla coil to work the sec is too large and too far away from the secondary input something wasn't right for a start if you wind the sec input winding closer to the Tesla winding you get a sine wave ;)  that's just an ordinary Tesla coil even Tesla couldn't get any gain out of that ;) he pulsed his but if you do that the waveform is the wrong way round (a loss) too many actions without a reaction back The trumpet has to go nose on the left to open out on the right! not the other way round I tried a test rig and mine was the wrong way round  :D :D :D :D :D :D

A few years ago a Russian speaking guy sent me a scope shot of his drive is that fast or what ? notice the frequency it's a bit of a beast with two 8s to back it up  >:( 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 28, 2018, 07:18:31 PM
Hoppy SPECIAL 'Freq' if you put 13500000 into your calculator both 1+3+5 = 9 remember what John Lennon said about it also 13500000/ both 9 and 8 divide with no return, in fact, any number that a multiple of 432 and some others will work

OK, so where is that RF frequency coming from to power Dr. Stiffler's PSEC shown in the video link I posted earlier, as it is not connected to a SG?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 28, 2018, 07:28:20 PM
OK, so where is that RF frequency coming from to power Dr. Stiffler's PSEC shown in the video link I posted earlier, as it is not connected to a SG?
every thing i got to work of sorts has had to have an earth and a battery or snake oil to run it,
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2018, 07:35:29 PM
Last minute revelation:
From Ansis from Latvia.at 7:30 AM of Latvian Time.

Hi, Wesley! I think I know the answer to the 1000 000$ question.
In my previous post I made a simple discovery, Tariel Kapanadze is ordinary man, genius.
That is it! How he made amplification of energy to 1000X? I listen all his tapes. Resonance!!!+ Synchronization!!!+ Capacitance!!!+ Ground wire, which is Amplifacation source!!!
How to make it  simmmmplyyyy? (smile) Answer is very simple.
We need 555 timer, which works in the frequency of transformer, which is ordinary TV or whatever Hi Voltage transformer with Tesla schematic, diode and Capacitor at the end.
Next, we need Ion Wind channel! We change "gap" and we synchronize all processes of charge/discharge/self charge.
But!!! Ion Wind tube is Not ORDINARY!!! There is section, which "suck the Earth Electrons" and collect all energy in the Capacitor or Battery!!!
LiPo battery or Lead. It is little cheating, but not much!
In fact I was  able to catch that effect, and my 2 mates from Latvia was able to catch it too, but we don't understand, because all go to flames or in big massive explosion! Yes, it's very simple!

==============================================
Note! When effect comes, 300 Ohm resistor will start burn out! Voltage on battery will start go up. I just play with Ionization...
This is only my observations - in one moment everything will go out of Ohms law.
I don't know how to make "ground electron suction", but that is Kapanadze secret, I know.
All Chubinidzes, SR and others do the same. Magnetic Field is an exchange between processes.
We see fat wires in all setups. It is why there is 5KW.


related to picture #2
Solution of ground electron energy can be taken from/with transformer which we add in the schematic. It is only my speculation!



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 28, 2018, 07:42:21 PM
   Hoppy:
   In that video I think that he has the oscillator connected only to the grids ground on his SG.That is an old video, so hard to remember,  but he never took the device outdoors away from everything. He thought that he didn't need to. But, he does need to do that. However, I now know that there is no way that stray AC alone could cause the LEDs to be able to light that bright.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tsl on November 28, 2018, 08:23:24 PM
"This so-called Zenneck wave is simply a vertically polarized plane wave solution to Maxwell's equations in the presence of a planar boundary that separates free space from a half space with a finite conductivity. For large conductivity -- this depends on the frequency and dielectric constant, too -- such a wave has a Poynting vector that is approximately parallel to the planar boundary. The amplitude of this wave decays exponentially in the directions both parallel and perpendicular to the boundary (with differing decay constants)."[/font][/size]
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html (http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 28, 2018, 08:30:19 PM

Note! When effect comes, 300 Ohm resistor will start burn out!

Wesley
I'm not surprised looking at that circuit diagram!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on November 28, 2018, 08:36:19 PM
It was in old times, when I try to make efficient Ionisation and work with Ion Wind generator. Today I decide to tell about it to Wesley. Idea is simple. Very very simple. Kapanadze is genius.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 28, 2018, 08:38:46 PM
   Hoppy:
   In that video I think that he has the oscillator connected only to the grids ground on his SG.
Definitely no ground connection or power supply in that video Nick. Just a loop antenna receiving that 'special' frequency.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2018, 09:18:08 PM
Part #5  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :
this part will be re edited  during today and more information will be  included.
For these who do not yet realize how important  this study is to the whole world please go to  links  at the bottom of this post.below:
Transmitter and receiver of Zenneck Wave.


Today I'm presenting  principal secrets of the Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.
1. Transmitter  (Tx) of Zenneck wave directly comes from Maxwell equation and Zenneck in 1906 made special formulation to these waves.
2. Tx is made  of 2  metal conducting materials (balls- spheres or any other shape) with one directly above the other and the certain distance from the earth.
3. pic 1 there are two regions affected by  electrostatic charge of T1 and T2.
4. 213 is typical signal generator delivering waveform to the 209

5. 209 is regular amplitude and phase  regulator between  T1 and T2 creating corresponding charge Q1 and Q2
  - guided  electromagnetic field is  limited by direction in its electric and magnetic field  such as antenna yagi or by guided  modes
 - guided modes
are  surface wave modes of electromagnetic wave  propagation
5a- types of guided modes interesting to us:
 TEM- Transverse electromagnetic (like wave directed by Yagi antenna.)
   TE- Transverse Electric
   TM- Transverse Magnetic

Quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transverse_mode)
The TE stands for transverse electric mode.
When the electric field of the signal is perpendicular to the direction of propagation through waveguide, it is called the TE mode.
In this mode the magnetic field components are in the direction of propagation.

The TM stands for transverse magnetic mode

TM mode -the electric    field is in the direction perpendicular to that of propagation, so ONLY the magnetic field propagates within the waveguide,
TE mode -
the magnetic field is in the direction perpendicular to that of propagation, so ONLY the electric   field propagates within the waveguide,

-
radiated electromagnetic  field is  regular electromagnetic propagation of electromagnetic wave in radial axis (not used in Zenneck wave/surface wave )
 - radial  axis
is  propagation from one single point  out radially
6. The device creates two regions Region1 and Region2 with interface ground/air
 -Region1 and Region2  are above and below  the interface.

 -interface is the boarder  used for propagation of surface wave known as Zenneck wave.
 -Zenneck wave  inside the interface  is directional( flat but cylindrical )and is called  guided surface wave mode
 - "cylindrical"
will be explained later if needed.
7. By use of  two ( can be more than 2 )charged  e.g spheres, + 209 + 213 we  create polyphase waveguide probe.
 - 
word  polyphase means:
    having  several AC signals of the same current but having different phase in the same point in time.
     it is used  in
Quote
a complex angle of insertion of an electric field synthesized by the polyphase waveguide probes,
-polyphase waveguide probe provides  phase shift in a ground current that facilitates the launching of a guided surface-waveguide mode on a lossy conducting medium in the propagation interface
 -propagation interface is interface ( line)  between ground and air.)
 -lossy conducting medium is  a ground   (the earth) in the vertical axis to the interface.the more  far away you are from interface Up/Down ( vertically)the more  of the signal is lost or not existing.
  that means that your losses can be close to zero if Zenneck wave travels  directly in the interface and does not reflect from uneven or nonuniform part of  interface.
-
guided surface-waveguide mode is the mode used by Zenneck Wave



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https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 28, 2018, 11:28:47 PM
It was in old times, when I try to make efficient Ionisation and work with Ion Wind generator. Today I decide to tell about it to Wesley. Idea is simple. Very very simple. Kapanadze is genius.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527428/#msg527428
Ansis is the author of information   about his view on Kapanadze secret and you can ask him   all questions

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on November 28, 2018, 11:56:45 PM
Definitely no ground connection or power supply in that video Nick. Just a loop antenna receiving that 'special' frequency.

   Yes, pretty amazing though. No battery, either. But, needs to pre charge the cap first, I think. 
   He should return to the PSEC tests, instead of trying to send mAs through the ground.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on November 29, 2018, 06:49:21 AM
Re Ansis's circuit diagram using a 555 and a modified color tv's LOPT for creating an ion wind. looking and thinking about the circuit
leads me to visualize what's actually happening here. I'm not really sure of what first might appears.
First, we appear to be generating a POSITIVE UHV and secondly with the DIODE and the 0.1 Capacitor at 20KV would be a huge thing!
like 10 microwave oven caps in series  which would be quite lethal once it charged up, perhaps jumping approximately 20mm or so
anyway besides that with the high impedance of the LOPT device it would take time to charge that size of capacitor up and it sounds
like you have to trim the charge time somewhat of the LOPT core gap which alters the energy storage time.
However, when a significant UHVoltage is reached depending on the Spark Gap the energy stored in the capacitor will be released causing a
reflection back into the LOPT primary of that energy causing the effect Ansis describes.

Sounds like fun but I wouldn’t like to spend much cash on the components  ;D ;D ;D PS don't get your fingers to close to the charged caps!

PS it would be very interesting to observe an oscillograph display printout of the waveform timing on a working device.


AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 29, 2018, 10:35:52 AM
It was in old times, when I try to make efficient Ionisation and work with Ion Wind generator. Today I decide to tell about it to Wesley. Idea is simple. Very very simple. Kapanadze is genius.

Hi Ansis,
Thanks for posting your circuit diagram. Given that it is not surprising and even expected that the 300R resistor could smoke / device burn-out with this circuit, what else leads you to believe that this could be the basis of Kapanadze's devices?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on November 29, 2018, 11:12:33 AM
   Yes, pretty amazing though. No battery, either. But, needs to pre charge the cap first, I think. 
   He should return to the PSEC tests, instead of trying to send mAs through the ground.
Yes Nick, which is why some have commented that his lab is probably close to a strong source of RF.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 29, 2018, 01:02:59 PM


 MIT paper.  from 1996.
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html (http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html)

So is  Surface  wave and  one of its forms  Zenneck Wave

=======================================
Here is  some basic for you my friend to study :
1.https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave (https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave)
2. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf (http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf)
   
3. this article is easy , and you know most of it but it is good as refreshment:  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/ (https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/)
4. I have found  specially for you easy way to  compare your  comment about MIT 1996 to today's  opinion  in regards to subject in question.
  http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf (http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf)
after you finish  all above  than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=wIIABIU3tRw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=wIIABIU3tRw)
and than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be)
and than go here:
http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc (http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc)





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 29, 2018, 05:54:41 PM

http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc (http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc)
by Department of Electrical Engineering at United Arab Emirates University - University of Sharjah.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/enbut (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/enbut)
what about  the sphere or  two spheres inside the sphere ( earth/ ionosphere)  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/ (https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en) and picture below
This is also Viziv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 29, 2018, 11:25:41 PM
Part #6  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :

- principal  secrets of the Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.

 Conditions: to lunch Zenneck surface Wave
1. Tesla coil like structure can be  build using two capacitors.( e.g spheres) ( or more)
These capacitors are placed vertically  in  line  one above the other [in the imaginary  line perpendicular to the ground ( earth)]
 adjustments shown on the picture makes Zenneck wave

2. Mirror image of the charges  in the two spheres is created in the ground.

3. Regular Electromagnetic Wave is alive "forever" once is transmitted.
    surface  wave dies when the switch of the transmitter is switched OFF.


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https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527435/#msg527435 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527435/#msg527435)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on November 30, 2018, 11:45:53 AM
A Zenneck wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave) spreads from the source like the wave generated by a falling stone on the water surface. Then its energy density decreases in 1/r².
A soliton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soliton) wave maintains its shape and its energy while progressing.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 30, 2018, 07:08:52 PM
.
Tariel was right.
Energy is from around us.
That does not contradict anything that was published by Viziv and Corum brothers.
Corum Brothers have found  part  of that  what was presented to us by Tariel Kapanadze
Vasmus, Anonim, SR, Chubanidze, Akula, Ruslan. and many others.
However Corum brothers did it late in terms of patent application.( expired 20 years patent life - 1988 ) and not finishing or abandoning  application.
Tariel  Kapanadze Patent application  was  filed  in 2008.

 every m  vertically from earth to ionosphere has potential 100V /m
10m=1000V
100m=10 000V
1000m=100 000V
at the height of typical airplane  flight  it is
12000m= 1 200 000V

Earth is natural  waveguide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide)
The earth is  in form of circular closed  donut/doughnut or  waveguide
Waveguide guides electromagnetic wave at certain given conditions.
giving to that  form of  electromagnetic wave desired shape!!!!! ( squeezing it, forming it)- inhibiting it in given direction.
Electromagnetic wave is  showed here( read text under video frame) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBHmG6gtIU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBHmG6gtIU)
Quote
In 1864, James Clerk Maxwell mathematically predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves. An electromagnetic wave consists of two oscillating fields, one electric and one magnetic, which propagate in space carrying energy. These two fields lie in orthogonal planes and therefore an electromagnetic wave is called plane-polarized.
In that waveguide you have nonuniform presence of charges manifesting itself  often in form of lightnings.
One single   lightning triggers  series of lightnings in waveguide around the earth , and the more lightnings are triggered , the more of avalanche of lightnings is created.
At one point conditions in that waveguide does not permit for that avalanche to be continued.
When Lightning strikes  it converts  potential energy into  kinetic energy..
That form factor however  is now not an electrostatic charge but AC .
Whenever we deal with with  AC in open space we deal with photon as a carrier  of energy .
Photons can not  interact with each other  apart  themselves, they can not see each other  but they  are properties of the  electromagnetic wave.
Electromagnetic wave of given frequency can not interact by that with any other  electromagnetic wave  but...
BUT... BUT... (Cerenkov radiation)
please do not go to link  from the quote you do not need it now.
Quote
For a wave that experiences anomalous dispersion and propagates with the external magnetostatic field, distinguishing features of the energy-flux velocity and the ratio of the electric to the magnetic energy density as functions of the wave number  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227230220_Slow_electromagnetic_waves_in_tangentially_magnetized_ferromagnetic_films (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227230220_Slow_electromagnetic_waves_in_tangentially_magnetized_ferromagnetic_films)
( this quote from above will be needed for you to understand that there is  use of ferrites/ ferromagnetic films or ferrite-like materials used by other people who filed  patent applications for their FE  or simply used it in their devices)

=================================================================
I wet to South of America to eliminate/ or conform one  of variables of the puzzle.
That was two ground structure. My posts are posted here. You need just to find them.
That gave me information about the structure of positioning of vital elements of the device.
=================================================================

So Slow wave is created  by interaction of two waves.
Well  two waves can not interact with each other  right?
You can’t slow down one EM wave using another wave, but you can slow down the wave’s energy flow.
This sets up a standing wave
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-slow-down-an-EM-wave-with-radio-waves (https://www.quora.com/Can-you-slow-down-an-EM-wave-with-radio-waves)

=================================================================
The same way  the  lightning strike is created " in the middle of nowhere" but inside of earth ionosphere  earth guide
We can create electromagnetic wave causing  standing wave  be alive.c   We are at the same exactly waveguide
And as a result of that we create.. what.. lightning around the earth?       NO.. no no...

We can build antenna that is small  and  does not look like an antenna .. but more like Tariel Kapanadze coil
 and this antenna is made out of:
- clockwise
-and counterclockwise coils and
- bifilar coil structure. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil)
Note : most of experimenters  who made  successfully working device  and/or these who filed patent application, do not understand what energy is coming from including Tariel Kapanadze.
Please recall my quote about monkey from my previous  post
=============================================================================
Quote
It is well known in the electromagnetic arts that efficient, linear antennas are usually constructed from elements having lengths that are significant portions of a free-space wavelength at the operating frequency.
It is also known that if those lengths are made equal to integer multiples of one quarter wavelength, standing waves may be induced in the antenna.
It is also understood that operation of an antenna at one of its self-resonance frequencies, if possible, is desirable to increase antenna efficiency.
At the self-resonant frequencies, standing waves are produced on antennas and the reactive component of the feedpoint impedance is zero.
This efficient operation contrasts with the familiar "matched" operation where the impedance of an antenna is conjugately matched by an
external network to the impedance of a transmitter or receiver to improve performance. Reactive power losses are experienced both in
the antenna and in the matching network, when a matching network is used, so that overall system efficiency is not maximized.
It is also established that horizontally polarized electromagnetic waves suffer greater ground wave propagation losses than do vertically polarized waves.
Therefore, vertically polarized waves are preferred over horizontally polarized waves for communication over the surface of the earth.


The antenna can be in form of torus or cylinder forming toroidal, helical electrically conducting path.
So lets talk for a moment about torus shape instead of Kapanadze cylindrical shape of the clockwise and counterclockwise coil.
 
Quote
In a simple case, the structure has a single conductive path, such as a copper wire or other electrical conductor, disposed on the surface of a torus in uniformly spaced turns.
The axis of the helical path lies on a circle which is described by the major radius of the torus.
(A toroidal surface is generated by the rotation of a closed planar figure about a rotational axis lying outside the figure.
When that figure is a circle, the surface generated is a torus.
For a torus, the distance between the rotational axis and the center of the rotated circle is the torus' major radius.)
When the conducting path on the toroidal surface is electrically excited in a pre-selected frequency range, a pair of slow electromagnetic waves
 i.e., ones with propagation velocities less then the speed of light, propagates along the path.
At the resonance frequencies of the toroidal path, an inhibited-velocity standing wave is established along the electromagnetically-closed path, which in this elementary example is approximately equal to the circumference of the torus

Quote
That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.
Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
Quote
By appropriately feeding the contrawound paths, an electrically small, self-resonant antenna providing purely vertically polarized radiation having an omnidirectional radiation pattern may be realized.
One half of the electrically conducting path may be eliminated in the structure by employing the image theory technique.
A conducting image surface electrically supplies the missing portion of the path.
The image surface may be a conducting sheet, a screen or wires  like counterpoise
arranged to act electrically as a conducting sheet, or may be the earth.
That gives to the device potential to be  in motion like   powering the car, boat or ship.
by means of counterpoise/ sheet of metal/ screen of wires.
Antennas  as small as  few-thousands of the free space wavelength  have been build and successfully operating with submarines
But they did not use the image concept and they  have been employed to resonate in mode suitable to energy extraction. 

A particularly intriguing application of the structure is the construction and operation of a waveguide probe at the primary or higher mode resonance frequencies of the waveguide formed by the surface of the earth and ionosphere.
Because these resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann resonances, are so low, e.g., about 8, 14 and 30 Hz,
 it has not heretofore been practical even to attempt to build a self-resonant structure to operate at any of the frequencies.

Although a waveguide probe resonantly operating at one of the Schumann resonance frequencies would be physically large,
it would still be electrically small and therefore realizable, as well as efficient.
Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency
(below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data), signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.

So how about if we  try to receive  this  energy bouncing in the waveguide by relatively small antenna that  was named by Corum  Brothers  the probe
using standing wave, and very small antenna that does not look like antenna...
Well this requires from me to show you  3 patent application not  made by Corum Brothers
including Tariel Kapanadze structure.

Quote
An electrically small, efficient electromagnetic structure, that may be used as an antenna or waveguide probe, having an electromagnetically closed, velocity-inhibiting conducting path,
for supporting a standing, inhibited-velocity wave in response to the flow of an electrical current through the path and a process for establishing the standing wave.
Use of the structure is particularly advantageous at the lower end of the electromagnetic spectrum, where it produces purely vertically polarized radiation
in directional and omnidirectional patterns. 
The structure may be used to
excite and extract  energy from  the earth-ionosphere cavity at the Schumann resonances.
the exact quote of one of  papers is:
"electromagnetic structures that can function as antennas for
/../  receiving electromagnetic energy and as waveguide probes in cavities for /../  extraction of electromagnetic energy."

I

Wesley



 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 01, 2018, 12:43:36 AM


https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527478/#msg527478 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527478/#msg527478)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527521/#msg527521 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527521/#msg527521)



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 01, 2018, 02:11:14 AM
Thanks for the friendly clarification I'm glad that's cleared up  :D :D have a good day there.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 01, 2018, 02:53:00 AM
 I feel like I need to repeat for you AlienGreey  how to achieve small form factor
of the receiving antenna ( Tariel Kapanadze coil):

That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.

Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
(wounded  counterclockwise)

-conducting paths
is more than  1 path. but I'm talking about just two
- phases 
of each path  in relation to each other are the most important ( crucial).
- and to make it working
you need countrawound,  but there are shapes of an antenna that do not need that. however they need to be  bifilar.


-
use of ferrite helps but is not always mandatory  that is why  most of FE devices uses ferrites.
- when traditional material if regular  transformer made from plates,  is used, or the core  is wounded as donut of continuous circularstrip   
one of techniques
   dividing/ splitting magnetic flux into two controlled path can be applied by 
making  slot in the middle of the ferrite core  and pushing in it additional  winding at 90 degrees.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 01, 2018, 10:30:14 AM
 look up.
this set of  ferrite connection is taken from patent application   not related to Corum brothers
I will make separate video about it and it claims FE 10W input  to 15kW output
The reason of me placing it here is because it uses the same means( mechanism) of  flux control as it is used by probe antenna

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 01, 2018, 01:31:00 PM
Wesley Thanks for device layout the two toroids are easy to get hold of but the U shape would have to be a custom device, however,
would it be possible to mount the permanent magnets on the top of the toroids and a flat ferrite rod over the top depending on the thickness
of the wire wrap.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 01, 2018, 04:51:52 PM

Two coils are activated at  positive part of impulse and than  the other  two
So switching is done between each set of two coils.
that means first impulse  activates the same first  set of coils
Magnetic flux is switched in direction flowing on doted line now.
Than  second impulse ACTIVATES  the same  second set of coils.
Switching continues the same   way for impulse 3 and 4 // 4 and 6// and so on.

 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on December 03, 2018, 11:21:33 PM
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 (https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747) 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/ (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/)
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor)

 Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 04, 2018, 04:02:30 AM
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 (https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747) 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/ (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/)
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor)

 Gyula
I do very much appreciate your comment here :)
give me few hours you will know why.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 04, 2018, 11:05:38 AM
 Ted Annis 15kW FE
https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE)






 Ted Annis made vital information removed but when you compare the versions of different time of publication you will find that what you looking for .Just look at that  what is removed  or what is different :) ,when you take foe of them
related  literature:
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2009046265A1/tr (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2009046265A1/tr),   compare different versions !!!! from different years
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/62/00/84/e06f92b5a2938e/WO2009046265A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/62/00/84/e06f92b5a2938e/WO2009046265A1.pdf)  compare different versions !!!!
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5b/06/7a/a683a3e327631c/US20140091890A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5b/06/7a/a683a3e327631c/US20140091890A1.pdf), compare different versions !!!!
https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.tedmagnetics.com/)
https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.tedmagnetics.com/)
https://maritime.org/doc/neets/mod01.pdf (https://maritime.org/doc/neets/mod01.pdf)
http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/mu/#bhcurve (http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/mu/#bhcurve)
https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/printall.php (https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/printall.php)
http://fullfunctioneng.com/info/Hall%20vs%20VR.pdf (http://fullfunctioneng.com/info/Hall%20vs%20VR.pdf) !!!! important
http://www.cmi-ferrite.com/products/Gapped.htm (http://www.cmi-ferrite.com/products/Gapped.htm)
http://www.eamagnetics.com/product/ceramicferrite/ (http://www.eamagnetics.com/product/ceramicferrite/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 04, 2018, 03:07:07 PM
. https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=498  (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=498)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 06, 2018, 10:03:27 PM
This is my concept for closing the magnetic path.
Why to change the path you can simply turn it on, activate.

Ferrite core or even the coil itself closes the flow of the stream by connecting the top and bottom together. If you have a ferrite it must be far enough away not to connect the rings and activated only when the voltage is turned on. In the case of the coil itself it does not matter.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 07, 2018, 12:24:19 AM
Thank you for your comments my dear friends.
I have some  positively shocking revelation in area of Ted device.
 I  must:
- check if I'm authorized to publish it.
- decide   if I want to  make  another video  or just publish it.
- decide  which forum is technically  the most  interested with Ted technology .

Down here is some preview.
This is photo not drawing.
descriptors   are the addition  that was written  later on the picture
That what you see it was fax copy .

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 07, 2018, 12:40:12 AM
Hi Wesley,
Sorry I have been busy and haven't following this thread that closely.
By 'Ted device', do you mean the TED device from these guys:
https://www.tedmagnetics.com/

"U.S. Patent 9,742,252 was issued on August 22, 2017 for the PMIG with rotary reluctance switches.
A US patent application was filed in December 2016 for the PMIG with electromagnetic reluctance switches.
The application for the PMO is in process."

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/18/91/dd/7a7068f79f2d64/US9742252.pdf


The topic of this thread seems to be jumping around all over the place. :D



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 07, 2018, 10:10:28 AM
I suggest combining streams in such a simple way. Why shouldn't it work? We don't have to change the polarization just to enable one field.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 07, 2018, 01:27:18 PM
- US20070242406A1  2007/10/18  by Annis and Eberly?
Electricity generating apparatus utilizing a single magnetic flux path


Wesley





 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 08, 2018, 01:07:12 AM
 There is something in addition to my previous post.

If you want to maximize the effect than you need  that  material that was shown in my video click here:
https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=504 (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=504)

Wesley

DISCLAIMER: Any experiment you try is at your own risk
that applies to all videos/posts/ notes/ comments  of mine.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 08, 2018, 06:39:02 AM
I suggest combining streams in such a simple way. Why shouldn't it work? We don't have to change the polarization just to enable one field.


Hi r2fpl,

Like your idea - analysis - simulation. Your probably aware that I promote CAE as it seems to
be the next logical step to our finding the roots to this free excess energy.

Here's a paper you might find interesting:
"Hybrid Reluctance Machines with U-Shaped  Electromagnets and Permanent Magnets"
https://upcommons.upc.edu/bitstream/handle/2117/83433/436-15-andrada.pdf  (https://upcommons.upc.edu/bitstream/handle/2117/83433/436-15-andrada.pdf)
In particular Fig 1. (A and B) and Figs 15., 16, 17.

TIP:  (in case your not familiar), to search for related patents go to https://patents.google.com/ (https://patents.google.com/)

In the search window simply enter the key words relating to your search,
for example: "permanent magnet reluctance switching stationary generator" (without the quotes),
also, check the "light bulb" to the right (should be default ON);
and the "grad cap" if you want non-patent literature.

Example - Some related patents:

US6362718B1   Motionless electromagnetic generator
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/31/3b/ba/b873f8fea482c7/US6362718.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/31/3b/ba/b873f8fea482c7/US6362718.pdf)

US4006401A  Electromagnetic generator  [can't help but love this one!] 1975-12-12 
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f3/22/c6/1fd63bdf889b9c/US4006401.pdf  (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f3/22/c6/1fd63bdf889b9c/US4006401.pdf)

US20070242406A1   Electricity generating apparatus utilizing a single magnetic flux path 
[posted previous in question to Wesley]
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7c/4f/fd/c4741774526b59/US20070242406A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7c/4f/fd/c4741774526b59/US20070242406A1.pdf) 

Good luck and have a great weekend!

SL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 08, 2018, 11:01:49 AM
SolarLab: Thanks !

I did 3 simulations to confirm the paths and of course everything had to agree.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 08, 2018, 01:00:50 PM
The simulation confirms the conventional functioning of the MEG. The flux path depends on the permeability.
The interesting question concerning energy is the mutual coupling between the switching coils and the output coils, and the energy wasted to change the permeability.
That's what I ask myself 10 years ago and that I tested. The answer is that the conventional functioning was confirmed, we have a set of coupled coils with a core of non constant permeability which doesn't change anything in the energy conservation.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 08, 2018, 01:50:32 PM
Thank you both of you guys.
.. honestly thank you for your contribution../..
please do it again:
in configuration as in Ted's patent application

1. as  shown  below.
2. as shown below but with  two  other  coils included( not  in the picture)
3. as shown below but showing what is happening exactly
here: https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=234
Note: please position the two magnets exactly as shown in  picture below in relation to C bracket.
That means :
C bracket  has two magnets on the inner side and than  the rings are touching the magnets .
So the moment of switching  is important.
The claim from patent application says about  1500V 1 to 10A  out of 1V 1 to 10 A
So take the lowest number from  the drawing  shown here :
https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=433 (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=433)
 it says  after 100ms=250V 2A
 or any gain ... just any



After You do it, I'll  try to be ready for another one.
It may take  some time but not much.



 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: T-1000 on December 08, 2018, 07:35:06 PM
Hi all,

Just to add to the whole thing - when you split operation into 2 parts:
1) method of causing magnetic flux path change (multiple patents applications)
2) method of extracting energy from magnetic flux path change (no patent applications so far)

The second one is obvious and is root cause why all patent applications going old as https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-44267-year-1908/ (https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-44267-year-1908/) are incomple for practical applications...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 08, 2018, 09:05:38 PM
from: speedy125
http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~peter/publications/hysterisis-loop-construction-JAP-2003.pdf (http://www.physics.mcgill.ca/~peter/publications/hysterisis-loop-construction-JAP-2003.pdf)

Thank You very much
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 08, 2018, 11:04:03 PM
for these in both English and Russian.
who are interested with  NMR as that was  assigned to Lithuania  Experiment

English  version:
https://ia600604.us.archive.org/23/items/HighResolutionNuclearMagneticResonance/PopleSchneiderBernstein-HighResolutionNuclearMagneticResonance.pdf

Russian  Version:
https://books.google.com.ua/books?id=EJfQDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=ru#v=onepage&q&f=false

Please   let me know if these links opens for you with no problem , or I need to  give you  alternate link.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 09, 2018, 12:22:17 AM
F.Y.I.

Rather than post "snapshots of simulations;" it is far more benneficial and instructive to
actually work through a problem, hands-on, in situ; as you adjust the parameters and watch the
interactions in pseudo real time.

However, snapshots are good for high-lighting concepts or to target points of interest but they
don't suffice when dealing with a dynamic event or environment.

So, in short, you're better to do it yourself - it's like breathing; doesn't help much if someone
else does it for you!

Now days you can do this, at no cost;  it's easy to get started and very straight forward to actually do.
They can be resource intensive however (near 6 days to do a very detailed, 1 pass, full EM on a so 
called grenade coil running on a 2.8GHz 32 core 256GB RAM workstation).

Thus; here are a couple of options:

CST Studio Suite Student Edition (no cost but some restrictions)
"Introduces you to the world of electromagnetic simulation, making Maxwell’s equations easier to
understand than ever. With this free edition you have – bar some restrictions –  access to our powerful
visualization engine and some of the most advanced solvers of CST Studio Suite." [CST is a high end 3D EM
product, easy to use, gives excellent results]

https://www.cst.com/academia/student-edition  (https://www.cst.com/academia/student-edition)

CST Student includes the following solvers: Time domain, Frequency domain, Low frequency, Static and Thermal
but apparently no third party CAD import or export or optimization is provided. 

Quickfield EM Field Modelling - Student Edition
https://quickfield.com/free_soft.htm (https://quickfield.com/free_soft.htm)

 Altair FEKO Electromagnetics - Student
https://studentedition.altair.com/ (https://studentedition.altair.com/)
https://altairuniversity.com/free-hyperworks-2017-student-edition/  (https://altairuniversity.com/free-hyperworks-2017-student-edition/)

Many other major CAE providers have similar options such as Comsol Multiphysics (my favourite, along with CST),
Ansys, etc... as well as a variety of open source options (below). 

https://www.engineering.com/Education/EducationArticles/ArticleID/13143/Free-Engineering-Software-for-Students.aspx (https://www.engineering.com/Education/EducationArticles/ArticleID/13143/Free-Engineering-Software-for-Students.aspx)

List of OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE
http://emlab.utep.edu/opensource.htm (http://emlab.utep.edu/opensource.htm)

Check them out.  I can not recommend any of these open source programs since I personally have no extensive
experience with any of them.

Anyway; just some more interesting and useful additions to the "Tool Kit." 

NOW - for those who are going to whine and complain that there are no examples of the type of work we are
            all are doing here, please keep in mind "this is YOUR job," this is where YOU achieve YOUR claim to fame! 

If it were already accomplished - we wouldn't be here!

FIN
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tysb3 on December 09, 2018, 04:36:15 PM
@ stivep                        Andrey  Melnichenko https://vk.com/id285085326
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 10, 2018, 04:04:44 PM
I would like to say that one of my ideas is HV.
There are two magnets and we create a spark between them. The question: do we combine the magnetic fluxes of both magnets in this way?

That would be great :)

Would it be so simple ?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7oziZUJy5Q
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 11, 2018, 02:01:14 AM
In his patent US9742252 (but also in his earlier applications) Ted mentioned a Bulgarian inventor, Valerij Ivanov
who has had "electrical means of implementing a reluctance switch". This method was discussed in 2008 here in
this forum (besides a Bulgarian forum which was later changed to another named forum).  Here is the topic on this
forum, from Page 2 where a replication attempt was also shown by a Bulgarian member:
https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134122/#msg134122 (https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134122/#msg134122)
https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134280/#msg134280 (https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134280/#msg134280)   and
https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134670/#msg134670 (https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134670/#msg134670) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4bMgDUpuWI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4bMgDUpuWI)   
 https://web.archive.org/web/20170807105029/http://www.inkomp-delta.com/page2.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20170807105029/http://www.inkomp-delta.com/page2.html) 
 http://www.dvenergy.eu/ (http://www.dvenergy.eu/)
https://www.youtube.com/user/Waleri1021/videos?view=0&shelf_id=0&sort=dd   (https://www.youtube.com/user/Waleri1021/videos?view=0&shelf_id=0&sort=dd)
 Gyula
Very much Thank you for your contribution -good help my  friend
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202008009291U&KC=&FT=E# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=DE&NR=202008009291U&KC=&FT=E#)
https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134494/#msg134494 (https://overunity.com/4300/a-truly-overunity-transformer-meg/msg134494/#msg134494)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=BG&NR=109554A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=&date=20070630&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 11, 2018, 02:08:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7oziZUJy5Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7oziZUJy5Q)
Very nice video Thank  you.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 12, 2018, 07:30:19 PM
 
   https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY (https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY)
..
   watch:   https://youtu.be/eMrXS9uiQCo (https://youtu.be/eMrXS9uiQCo)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 12, 2018, 10:46:17 PM
    Hoppy:    Ok then, I guess it's all perfectly normal. Good thing forest fires normally don't burn trees down, as they are all wet inside.
    Thanks. What a relief.    https://youtu.be/ZWvuPcurB6Q
   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 13, 2018, 12:25:48 PM
   

   By who, Hoppy?
   This is not the first of these types of exterminations. Nor possibly the last. Imagine, what's next...
   https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY (https://youtu.be/UkVdrTMZMEY)
   As you can see in that video, homes and cars are melted to nothing, but the trees are not. Wild camp fire???   A dog sits patiently waiting for his owners to come home,  10 days after the fires... on another video.   There are several other videos showing what did cause these fires.  I won't go into that, at this time.

    AG may be pointing in the right direction. This planet is being turned upside down, while we just watch, and say "by who".
   I know that you are an informed guy, Hoppy. So...
   watch:   https://youtu.be/eMrXS9uiQCo (https://youtu.be/eMrXS9uiQCo)
Nick,
Thanks for the links which I had not seen. The truth is buried in the crap and its alarming!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 13, 2018, 03:27:18 PM
There's no need to shout, Aliengrey.
I'm talking about method. Do you really believe that by doing anything, you can achieve our goal? What is your point of view on the method? Is it to repeat acts of faith by chanting "energy comes from emptiness" or "be blessed Mr. kapanadze"?
This is what I have been hearing for 15 years with Bearden and all other useless people, and their concrete results are much emptier than the quantum vacuum. If you do not take into account the general failure we face, you are condemned to remain there forever, repeating the mistakes of the past.
Err can you point me to your 'EXPERIMENTS'on here please or are you just a scribe?  ;D ;D  or point me to anything you know of that grabs
energy from the ground we can test?

PS If Mr TK wants to bless us he just needs to give the world FE know how, sorry i think my spell checker has just corrected all your bad hand writers  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 13, 2018, 04:04:17 PM
@aliengrey    @r2fpl

I started my experiments with a setup inspired by Naudin's Kapagen and Kapanadze's patent (see photo).
I tried to complete the assembly with a possible "frequency stabilizer" and "filter" (LC circuit, cap?...) but as Kapanadze lies by omission in his patent, my chance to succeed by experimenting at random was almost nil, as for everyone else. The rest proved it.

If some have succeeded and do not want to show us their solutions, it would be completely stupid since they do not hold the patent anyway, and so the idea that this situation would be real is just as stupid as a conspiracy theory.

Now, you two aliengrey and r2fpl, I would be happy if you would present us with your own setups and what you retain as experimental signs of OU.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 13, 2018, 05:36:34 PM
Not trying to find fault but an undergraduate guy I now made what you show it looked lethal  :D 8) but it only had about 1.5 kv
thats not 3.5 kv and it needs to be a fast tunable spark a dump of energy if you read Morays notes.

The only device I have seen that appeared to work is this device by Don Smith it involves a series of capacitors with bleeders that charge
up to about 3.5 to 4kv fed by a LOPT and a string of 1kv 1amp diodes (12) feeding a 3.5 inch 6 turn coil made from car brake fluid tube
It appears to produce heavy current sparks that appear to dissipate more energy going in than out oops.

Already posted on thread
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 13, 2018, 06:53:05 PM
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 13, 2018, 06:54:01 PM

From what I have seen of Kapanadze's demo videos, and I have watched many of them very closely,
they do hold up pretty well to scrutiny.
Like you, I have watched his videos and also thought they stood up fairly well to scrutiny, until I glimpsed this clip from the green box garden video. The suspect cable / wire coming into sight behind the guy operating the green box is going towards the bearded guy who holds the coil of ground cable throughout the video. That was part of the 'trick' in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 13, 2018, 07:25:51 PM
Hi Wesley!
If you have capacitor 10uF 12V full, that is not a lot.How can you raise energy of that cap?You simply put in series that cap with output of HV Tesla coil.If the Tesla coil has output of 1000V, than on your 10uF cap will be 1000+12V.And 10uF 1012 V is a lot of energy. First try with smaller capacity of 1uF. It is lethal.
Fill the cap with low voltage high Amp and put it in series with HV output of Tesla coil, flyback?? (unidirectional pulse, watch the polarity so the output is in series with cap) to raise the voltage of that line.  After cap put in series spark gap so the cap do not bleed before you hit it with HV.
After the spark gap put in series step down transformer. Now you have HV spark of 10uF. A very big spark.!

Load the bullet, fire the bullet!
It is Bootstrap method. How to raise the voltage on cap to drive the mosfet?  With Bootstrap method you can raise Bootstrap cap of 100uF 12V to 100uF 500V easily.  Anyone think of that??

It is also voltage doubler circuit but with spark gap and modified. One phase fill the cap from low voltage source. Second phase hit it serial with HV so the 10uF can jump across the spark gap! Easy! A little bit of practice and you will do it!
It is too simple so nobody can see it.
Picture is from Kapanadze patent. He made mistake and draw it!That's why he made second patent to hide the mistake!

It is serial connection of the coil and capacitor. (Power line and already full capacitor). Voltages are adding on capacitor.
Nothing is violated, it depends on law of serial connection. But not two capacitors. Capacitor and coil. A little bit different.

Remember a Steven Mark story of two currents. One 5V and 5A and second HV. In serial they produce kick.
Kapanadze and Steven Mark are all the same principle. All of them are.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 13, 2018, 07:53:00 PM
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 13, 2018, 11:25:30 PM
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5e/87/a8/c7c74fe8c29b46/US20090206675A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5e/87/a8/c7c74fe8c29b46/US20090206675A1.pdf)
 picture #2 and #2a.

===================================================================================

Picture 2 and 2a is the picture of actual transformer

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg528069/#msg528069 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg528069/#msg528069)


Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tsl on December 14, 2018, 09:13:48 AM
Hi Wesley!
If you have capacitor 10uF 12V full, that is not a lot.How can you raise energy of that cap?You simply put in series that cap with output of HV Tesla coil.If the Tesla coil has output of 1000V, than on your 10uF cap will be 1000+12V.And 10uF 1012 V is a lot of energy. First try with smaller capacity of 1uF. It is lethal.
Fill the cap with low voltage high Amp and put it in series with HV output of Tesla coil, flyback?? (unidirectional pulse, watch the polarity so the output is in series with cap) to raise the voltage of that line.  After cap put in series spark gap so the cap do not bleed before you hit it with HV.
After the spark gap put in series step down transformer. Now you have HV spark of 10uF. A very big spark.!

Load the bullet, fire the bullet!
It is Bootstrap method. How to raise the voltage on cap to drive the mosfet?  With Bootstrap method you can raise Bootstrap cap of 100uF 12V to 100uF 500V easily.  Anyone think of that??

It is also voltage doubler circuit but with spark gap and modified. One phase fill the cap from low voltage source. Second phase hit it serial with HV so the 10uF can jump across the spark gap! Easy! A little bit of practice and you will do it!
It is too simple so nobody can see it.
Picture is from Kapanadze patent. He made mistake and draw it!That's why he made second patent to hide the mistake!

It is serial connection of the coil and capacitor. (Power line and already full capacitor). Voltages are adding on capacitor.
Nothing is violated, it depends on law of serial connection. But not two capacitors. Capacitor and coil. A little bit different.

Remember a Steven Mark story of two currents. One 5V and 5A and second HV. In serial they produce kick.
Kapanadze and Steven Mark are all the same principle. All of them are.
Hello there , i have just one question,
How will a 12v rated cap survive a 1000v spike?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 14, 2018, 11:22:24 AM
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5e/87/a8/c7c74fe8c29b46/US20090206675A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5e/87/a8/c7c74fe8c29b46/US20090206675A1.pdf)
...
It is surprising that such an idea, which is not new, which is near-field coupling, which is part of the state of the art, could have been patented. Everyone knows that energy can be transported from one capacitor plate to the other, and that a capacitor has no theoretical limit for the spacing of its plates.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 12:21:30 PM


https://www.google.com/search?q=GeoFusion;+Don+Smith+partial+replication+Cloud+version&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB813GB813&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ix-LTfLQs6RAJM%253A%252C4546FcEWALYZKM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRp65rZd_3cYDnJloqJS_xSkFMn0w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI89iupZ_fAhWiNOwKHY_WD24Q9QEwAnoECAUQBA#imgrc=_ (https://www.google.com/search?q=GeoFusion;+Don+Smith+partial+replication+Cloud+version&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB813GB813&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=ix-LTfLQs6RAJM%253A%252C4546FcEWALYZKM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRp65rZd_3cYDnJloqJS_xSkFMn0w&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjI89iupZ_fAhWiNOwKHY_WD24Q9QEwAnoECAUQBA#imgrc=_)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 14, 2018, 05:04:54 PM
What if i just send you the other vid   ;D ;D ;D


Hi AG, Is there a reason you can't post the video link here?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 05:40:03 PM
Yes, that's correct and clearly shown in the videos.
What video are you talking about Hoppy ? we can put Vera on the case  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 06:04:53 PM
Look here! ramset and wattsup show spiral pipe wind input for current input (i'm not sure how that works).


https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=237.100

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/5985/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 14, 2018, 08:30:21 PM
Perpetual motion is not achievable, OU does not exist and never existed but FE exists and is real.
Wesley

I have not closed the door on OU. More power out than being input,
but with no discernible source of where the excess energy is coming from.
To that I say maybe.

Energy from seemingly nowhere may seem quite illogical, but I will let my tests
tell me what is really possible. Sometimes our thinking leads us astray, and
that can work in all directions.  8)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 08:34:29 PM
My dear Wesley, I know that. You saw the device. And I and hundreds of people saw the amazing Dynamo walking on the water:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xt2yu2
Does that prove he can walk on water?!

Years ago there was a guy use to run a sword through his heart, he used to boast about it, it was on TV live you couldn't fake it, it's very bad Satanic stuff, but true.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 14, 2018, 08:43:41 PM
You just contradicted yourself.
anytime you take energy out it creates shortage of that energy.
anytime  you take water out from the cap creates shortage of that water.
That is why overunity does not exist and never existed
Energy must come from somewhere and be converted to usable to us form of energy
Conversion takes energy too.
Wesley

Hi Wesley. I said 'no discernible source' and 'seemingly'.
I think that should clarify what I mean there.
I realize that energy is not supposed to just appear from nowhere.
It should be coming from 'somewhere', or at least this is our current accepted view.  :)

P.S. There was no contradiction in what I said.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 14, 2018, 08:44:25 PM
Thank you for responding my dear  Friend Ramset
But I did want to ask Wesley if he has Gas spectrometer to test 1 MM iron wire for a McFarland Cook replication ?few samples to check for iron purity ?
Chet
Optical Emission Spectrometer you have in mind. I assume?
or if it is  EDXRF I have it  SEA5120 by Seiko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3gPFfgDp8&t=770s
However my LN2 plant is not working now.

Please specify  field of testing
Please provide me with link to  experiment.

I have choice concentrate on making my video or do something else.
The crowd is waiting and may become  impatient.
Since I mentioned  me as home grown, self-made  filmmaker  I would like to deliver  quality too.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 14, 2018, 08:54:38 PM
builders discussion thread
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3677.msg70487;topicseen#msg70487 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3677.msg70487;topicseen#msg70487)
===================================================================

last page of topic prior to sourcing material for replicators//   http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1616.msg70418;topicseen#msg70418// (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1616.msg70418;topicseen#msg70418//not)

--not (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=1616.msg70418;topicseen#msg70418//not) wishing to sidetrack here ,will be a topic at this forum once I can get the right wire from 1870 period   to start builds
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 14, 2018, 08:57:38 PM
Optical Emission Spectrometer you have in mind. I assume?
Please specify  field of testing
Please provide me with link to  experiment.
Wesley

I believe Ramset was asking if you have some equipment which can test a sample of iron wire for iron purity.

McFarland Cook was a guy in the past who many locals considered to be crazy because he said he was
going to turn a metal storage shed on his property into a flying machine using his claimed free energy generator
invention. He submitted a patent application for his free energy invention. Basically just coils of wire
on iron rods. He never ever got his metal storage container flying, but it's rusty remains are still in existence.
I have a picture of it somewhere that I found on the internet previously. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 14, 2018, 09:03:31 PM
I believe Ramset was asking if you have some equipment which can test a sample of iron wire for iron purity.

. :)
Yes that is EDXRF
It is scientific grade research device
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ3gPFfgDp8&t=770s
But it does not show bonds.
So it will be precise in form of investigative tool showing periodic components from lithium to uranium.
some limitations I have mentioned in previous post

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 14, 2018, 09:11:39 PM
Please do not halt movie production ,am trying several sources for purist possible ironwire [no carbon]

Chet
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 09:27:39 PM
Sorry to interject But AG posted some link and I wish to understand why ?? post Number 1529
 maybe he can reboot other thread with Question [I think gas tubes ?? ]
??
But I did want to ask Wesley if he has Gas spectrometer to test 1 MM iron wire for a McFarland Cook replication ?few samples to check for iron purity ?
sorry for intrusion

Chet
Err because Hoppy posted TK had wire he thought was feeding all his bulbs, and google pointed me to your thread!  and i understand if you are quick grabbing ions before magnetic whirlpool starts an excess of energy is created
But Chet wouldn't it be better to use nanocrystalline tape instead of copper tape?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 14, 2018, 09:51:06 PM
Hi Void,
If there are measurements of the ground wire current and scope traces, I'm interested in. Could you or someone else point us them?

With regard to speculation, there is also a question of method to be applied.
The proposals "here is a functional device" and "there is evidence of cheating" are not at all equivalent.
This is linked to the burden of proof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)), which lies only with those who make the first assertion, the positive assertion (the second being relative to the first one). It is a question of logic, and in the absence of sufficient technical details on the device, that is all that remains. To get out of a belief system, proof must be provided by those who claim that the machine works.
Are you asking how to create an experiment on how to prove how to suck the energy out of the ground?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 14, 2018, 11:57:45 PM
Hi Void,
If there are measurements of the ground wire current and scope traces, I'm interested in. Could you or someone else point us them?

With regard to speculation, there is also a question of method to be applied.
The proposals "here is a functional device" and "there is evidence of cheating" are not at all equivalent.
This is linked to the burden of proof (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)), which lies only with those who make the first assertion, the positive assertion (the second being relative to the first one). It is a question of logic, and in the absence of sufficient technical details on the device, that is all that remains. To get out of a belief system, proof must be provided by those who claim that the machine works.

Hi F6FLT. The measurements on the ground wire were done with a clamp ammeter placed over the ground wire.
This can be seen in a couple of the earlier video demos if I recall correctly, but I don't have web links handy.
I am aware that there are factors that could potentially render such measurements unreliable.
I make no claim about whether those readings taken could be considered reliable or not.

Kapanadze is not trying to prove anything to the world as far as I know. Last I heard a few years ago
he was looking for someone to buy his technology from him. If someone were interested in buying the technology
from him, it would be up to them to make sure proper steps are taken to determine the device works as
claimed before paying him. I do not claim to know whether Kapanadze's device is genuine or not,
so no belief system involved at all. I keep an open mind because what I have seen seems to hold up reasonably well to scrutiny.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 15, 2018, 12:52:21 AM
Hoppy this is about all i have found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C1b7-w3Hs

but if your thinking of sucking energy from the ground here, think about how thunder and lightning works!
the ground must be more negative than the sky so to do that won't you need produce a high positive pulse?
But remember although it's more positive than the ground it's still more negative than the sky  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 15, 2018, 09:30:56 AM
Hoppy this is about all i have found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7C1b7-w3Hs

but if your thinking of sucking energy from the ground here, think about how thunder and lightning works!
the ground must be more negative than the sky so to do that won't you need produce a high positive pulse?
But remember although it's more positive than the ground it's still more negative than the sky  ;D ;D

Actually,the clouds become negatively charged at the bottom,and  positively charged at the top.
Once the charge separation becomes high enough,the negative charge discharges to !what is now! a positively charged earth surface.


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 15, 2018, 11:12:42 AM
Maybe for the fact that nobody tries to place mercury, which is a fuel.

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg195032/#msg195032

Mercury is banned and threatened with imprisonment in my country. There are other harmful substances, too, and they do not have such restrictions. That would be interesting. Of course, mercury is harmful, so everyone knows.

Does Kapanadze use mercury?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 15, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
@Hoppy and Void

Thanks for the information about measurements of the ground wire with a clamp ammeter.
Nevertheless I'm afraid it's by far not enough: a clamp ammeter is generally designed for low frequencies (less than 10 KHz, ideally the mains frequency) and for sine signals. If there are RF currents it can be totally disturbed due to resonance or antiresonance in the inner coil. A trick consisting to put RF power in the wire couldn't clearly be viewed. As already mentionned, extraordinary claim require indisputable facts, especially when no other elements allow a duplication.

Hi F6FLT. It appears you did not read my reply to you. I already stated clearly that I was
fully aware that there are factors that could potentially make the clamp ammeter readings unreliable.
However, since we don't know the frequency and type of waveform(s) which were on the ground wire and output wire,
it is unknown if those current readings were at all accurate or not. However, the readings seemed to be ballpark for
the rough amount of power the light bulbs were apparently consuming.

I don't agree. Kapanadze filed a patent. A patent is a publicity for an invention intended to be used in the general interest of people while respecting the intellectual property of the inventor. So this is proof that Kapanadze wants to prove something. If he has filed a patent that cannot be used, that is what we are seeing,  it is cheating and he is accountable.
The only excuse I could see, which in fact is not really one, is that he has something but he is unable to understand the least reason of the functioning. This would explain why he is not cooperative because someone else could find the cause and filed another patent including the principle of functioning. In any case, once again, we are involved in idle speculation from which Kapanadze's device never comes out!

What you write here is of course just at the level of speculation, calling it 'proof' to try
to bolster what you prefer to believe; AKA rationalization. People typically file patents to
try to protect their 'intellectual property'. Those patents were filed in conjunction with a company
that Kapanadze was working with at the time. From what I have seen, it is not so uncommon for people
to file patent applications and leave out critical details in order to establish them self as the 'inventor',
but still not give away the 'critical secrets' of the invention. Possibly that is what they were trying to do.
I don't know. Anyway, as I have said I am not much interested in baseless speculation. You are free
to believe and assume anything you like, but I will reserve judgment until I see some actual credible
evidence either way.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 15, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
This is not a coaxial cable! This is the HV cable from spark plugs (car). This is clearly visible.

If you watched your film carefully, you would have seen it. Same cable but green and blue is GreenBox/Kapanga version.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 15, 2018, 10:02:15 PM
Hi Hoppy. What do you feel is off topic with regards to: "Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum" ?
(I still haven't watched that video section yet, but I will get to it as soon as I have a chance. I am running around today. ) :)
Hi Void,
I have re-looked at those frames many times and I'm still uncertain about things because of poor video quality but my instinct is telling me that if there is a trick then its the bearded man dealing it.
To put it crudely, I feel that the thread is becoming an academics pissing contest!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 15, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
This is not a coaxial cable! This is the HV cable from spark plugs (car). This is clearly visible.

If you watched your film carefully, you would have seen it. Same cable but green and blue is GreenBox/Kapanga version.
It does not make any difference  if it is coaxial cable or just HV spark cable.
The only that counts is  1 conductor and dielectric.
Yes dielectric is the most important here.
It was a need for  so many years to get to this  conclusion.
That is why I ask all of these questions  our friend F6FLT
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/172642/why-does-a-capacitor-create-a-90-degree-phase-shift-of-voltage-and-current (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/172642/why-does-a-capacitor-create-a-90-degree-phase-shift-of-voltage-and-current)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 15, 2018, 11:10:40 PM
Off Topic:
Regarding Daniel McFarland Cook, he was an interesting guy.
He was the successful inventor of a popular sugar evaporator machine in the 1800's.
He also has a granted patent for an induction based free energy device which I think he said was going to
be the engine for his flying machine.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US119825A/en?oq=US119825

I referred to his flying machine as a metal 'shed', but looking at the picture again, it looks more like it
might have been a custom made capsule for the purpose of being McFarland Cook's flying machine. :)
It was in later years used by somebody else to be a smoke house, I believe.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 16, 2018, 01:38:54 AM
Am I on the right thread here?
Wesley Hi re the caduceus coil  Any idea what the pipe Dia was 'roughly' and the number of turns and possibly
wire diameter the drawing shows about 40 turns if that's anything to go on?

Many thanks, AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 16, 2018, 04:03:35 AM
Hi Void,
I have re-looked at those frames many times and I'm still uncertain about things because of poor video quality but my instinct is telling me that if there is a trick then its the bearded man dealing it.

Hi Hoppy. I watched the video closely again, including the frames with the bearded guy, but
can't see any wires that I can definitely say are out of place. With ground wires and possibly
lengths of unused wire laying on the ground that they weren't using, and with poor video quality
I can't really say what might be suspicious or not there. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 16, 2018, 04:56:28 AM
Hi everyone,
There is an article which isn't easy to find in the internet which is related to "Nikola Tesla interview with lawyer 1899" unedited version not the newspaper version.
Inside article Tesla spoke of current amplification to and from Earth using interrupter setup for Tesla's coil.Question is how do we know if there is current amplification from Earth using Tesla coil with interrupter circuit only.
Achieving frequency acceleration is one thing but current amplification is also very important.

As mentioned previously i am at a disadvantage since i am living in a high rise apartment.Nowhere near ground for me.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 16, 2018, 07:03:26 AM
I reread Daniel McFarland Cook's free energy device patent "improvement in Induction Coils".
As a quick test, I connected a couple of identical transformers, primary 1 to secondary 2,
and primary 2 to secondary 1 in a self-looped arrangement, as Cook seems to have described
in his patent, but he used iron rods instead of steel transformers. I then pulsed this transformer
arrangement with a DC pulse from a 12V battery to see what the waveform looks like on the
transformer wires. I then reversed the wire connections between one of the primary/secondary
connections to see what the difference would be. Nothing too much out of the ordinary was seen.
In the second wire polarity connection test I did (wires flipped), the pulse was a little more self sustaining,
but only a little bit. Nothing much out of the ordinary, I think. See the attached scope shots.

In one newspaper article written about Cook during the time when Cook was still experimenting
with his fee energy generator Cook claimed that "he has sent chunks of iron through the roof of a
building into the air out of sight, and, in his opinion, clear beyond the influence of gravitation into
the ether beyond. He is not confident of his ability to control aerial locomotion, but he hopes
to master this branch of the subject before he dies." . The article did not provide any details
on what exactly Cook was doing when he supposedly sent chunks of iron through the roof of a building.
Was Cook crazy, or did he discover something really unusual? I don't know.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 16, 2018, 12:17:51 PM
I reread Daniel McFarland Cook's free energy device patent "improvement in Induction Coils".
As a quick test, I connected a couple of identical transformers, primary 1 to secondary 2,
and primary 2 to secondary 1 in a self-looped arrangement, as Cook seems to have described
in his patent, but he used iron rods instead of steel transformers. I then pulsed this transformer
arrangement with a DC pulse from a 12V battery to see what the waveform looks like on the
transformer wires. I then reversed the wire connections between one of the primary/secondary
connections to see what the difference would be. Nothing too much out of the ordinary was seen.
In the second wire polarity connection test I did (wires flipped), the pulse was a little more self sustaining,
but only a little bit. Nothing much out of the ordinary, I think. See the attached scope shots.

In one newspaper article written about Cook during the time when Cook was still experimenting
with his fee energy generator Cook claimed that "he has sent chunks of iron through the roof of a
building into the air out of sight, and, in his opinion, clear beyond the influence of gravitation into
the ether beyond. He is not confident of his ability to control aerial locomotion, but he hopes
to master this branch of the subject before he dies." . The article did not provide any details
on what exactly Cook was doing when he supposedly sent chunks of iron through the roof of a building.
Was Cook crazy, or did he discover something really unusual? I don't know.

What Cook had was an actual patent. I would think they would check the device before granting this patent, since you are trying to patent the "impossible". Funny how the patent is missing the page or pages that explain the part C or what ever he had with the coils.

He was so convinced about his levitating car, that he was witnessing some anomalies. I doubt he got terahertz pulses going, so what comes to mind is asymmetric caps, electrogravitics or pulsed magnetic fields. Shooting metal through the roof is easy with a coil.

I think he is a good example what an inventor can do in a barn
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 16, 2018, 08:36:40 PM
No it is rather about violent and aggressive collision
TM mode of TEM  surface wave,  can only travel in the interface

Wesley


If we assume that the earth is the cover of the capacitor it is missing on the other side. The way to force one side to close the circuit is the key to this energy. If we don't take other elements as fuel.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 16, 2018, 09:36:05 PM
Belfior: Regarding D. M. Cook, yes, maybe he used a big honking battery to provide a very large
current pulse to some kind of large coil arrangement, and used that to send pieces of metal
through the roof of a building. Back in the mid to later 1800's, that might well seem like a very mysterious
effect, and might lead Cook into thinking that it could be used to make a large metal capsule fly.

Regarding Cook's free energy 'Electromagnetic Battery', Cook seemed to be convinced that it would
continue to conduct a significant current after being given an initial start pulse to get the action started.
He mentioned using iron bars or magnets up to 3 inches in diameter and 2 to 6 feet long for the iron cores.
The only thing I can think of that might be doing something unusual in that simple arrangement is maybe if soft iron
is used in iron bars of that size and with coils with many turns, maybe something to do with the magnetic domains
flipping back and forth in the soft iron bars helps to self-sustain the pulsing action, but it seems to be quite a long shot
at best. Cook's free energy invention never seems to have gone anywhere beyond his own experiments and
patent however.


Hoppy:
Yeah, I found that the video quality is too poor to try to analyze too closely for things like that.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 17, 2018, 08:41:22 AM
And what about this stuff then ?

http://aetherwavetheory.com/ULF-14-5.html   and this
https://www.google.com/search?q=a+barden+caduceus+coil+research+page&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB813GB813&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=XFRTtfzsoCdSKM%253A%252C0Kn4mCaRBagKCM%252C_&usg=AI4_-kRYj-EY8T2GkhnzegFEqO-9B_fwbw&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi4xZK8rKbfAhXzSRUIHZUlBE8Q9QEwAXoECAUQBg#imgrc=vUjxA5C0c_iuBM:

And this http://www.angelfire.com/un/weirdlabs.com/screas.html
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 17, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
RE  Gorchilin claims...here is a quick paper from Smudge on the Theoretical aspects of the claim ,not to say that in  Practice actual events...are to be ruled out ?
apparently the math for the theory part has huge issues .
respectfully
Chet K...ps still sorting vendors for Cook materials

and also Melnlnchenko investigation is in progress[for some reason link not transferring yet ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on December 17, 2018, 08:09:24 PM
Just curious, where did (5.3) go?
If you read his paper, he substituted (5.2) into (5.1) to get (5.3) (which I didn't bother to reproduce) and then multiplied by current I to get (5.4) which I did reproduce.
Smudge
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 17, 2018, 10:49:36 PM
sorry to interject ,but I was taught some time ago ,if you want to cause a brawl among men....
start talking about politics religion or sports....the fights will shortly follow.
perhaps we have enuff conflict for a while ?
not just one mans opinion......

In many cases on this forum, you need to read between the lines. Also you need to understand, that when people are arguing about stupid shit, they are not using their time trying to find free energy.

Then you just start giving points to people based on their posts. Started an argument -> one point. Started waving his hands, shouting and posting youtube videos, when somebody made an interesting question -> one point and so on and so on.

Then you watch this forum for a year and look at the stats.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on December 18, 2018, 08:51:22 AM
ramset, the error of your analysis is to differentiate UL = dLI/dt. Gorchilin doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on December 18, 2018, 09:54:01 AM
True, L depends on t, but it is not necessary to differentiate it :)
Otherwise, this leads to an error that occurred at ramset.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 18, 2018, 10:06:21 AM
This is exactly why Smudges  paper  was shared , for discussion and clear understanding , I have sent him a note .EDIT TO ADD FOR REFERENCE TO THIS DISCUSSION

as already written before,
 RE  Gorchilin claims...here is a quick paper from Smudge on the Theoretical aspects of the claim ,not to say that in  Practice actual events...are to be ruled out ?
apparently the math for the theory part has huge issues .
respectfully
Chet K...ps still sorting vendors for Cook materials

and also Melnlnchenko investigation is in progress[for some reason link not transferring yet ? ... (https://overunity.com/Themes/default/images/icons/clip.gif) Making sense of Gorchilin.pdf (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/170800/)
 ....(32.01 kB - downloaded 39 times.).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on December 18, 2018, 10:27:39 AM
True, L depends on t, but it is not necessary to differentiate it :)
Otherwise, this leads to an error that occurred at ramset.
Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux, and since flux=L*I/N it is proportional to the rate-of-change of the product L*I.  Normally L is a constant so U=-L*dI/dt is correct (the manner in which Gorchelin sums the voltages that negative sign disappears).  But when L is not constant then U=-d(L*I)/dt is the correct version to use.  Gorchelin is in error.  If you believe otherwise please explain why.
Smudge
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 18, 2018, 11:51:31 AM
Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux, and since flux=L*I/N it is proportional to the rate-of-change of the product L*I.  Normally L is a constant so U=-L*dI/dt is correct (the manner in which Gorchelin sums the voltages that negative sign disappears).  But when L is not constant then U=-d(L*I)/dt is the correct version to use.  Gorchelin is in error.  If you believe otherwise please explain why.
Smudge

i dont agree with that.

Induced voltage is proportional to the rate of change of the electric field,not the magnetic field.
The magnetic field is a result/bi-product of current flow,and so voltage must exist prior to any magnetic field or magnetic flux.


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 18, 2018, 12:43:20 PM
You don't agree, Brad, but that's the way it is. The induced emf in a circuit crossed by a magnetic flux is obtained either by integrating E along the circuit or by the magnetic flux through its surface, it's a consequence of Stokes' theorem, it's a mathematical identity.
Emf = -dΦ/dt (Faraday's Law) = ∮E.dl  (E electric field = -∂A/∂t, dl a circuit element where current is induced).

If L changes, the circuit of the inductance changes, therefore ∮E.dl changes too, proof that dΦ/dt is also changing.

The formula U=-d(L*I)/dt given by Smudge is correct. See equation 8.69 here (https://books.google.fr/books?id=RlVVBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA619&lpg=PA619&dq=U%3D-d(L*I)/dt++"changing+inductance"&source=bl&ots=qjOM6_vb18&sig=SssnuGwe-74luJr7IrfFfGGSZ-U&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY-dmJqqnfAhWvz4UKHUg6Df4Q6AEwBnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=U%3D-d(L*I)%2Fdt%20%20"changing%20inductance"&f=false)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on December 18, 2018, 01:57:40 PM
Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux, and since flux=L*I/N it is proportional to the rate-of-change of the product L*I.  Normally L is a constant so U=-L*dI/dt is correct (the manner in which Gorchelin sums the voltages that negative sign disappears).  But when L is not constant then U=-d(L*I)/dt is the correct version to use.  Gorchelin is in error.  If you believe otherwise please explain why.
Smudge

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLC_circuit
Pay attention to "Series RLC circuit".
I hope the topic of the error is closed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 18, 2018, 03:27:00 PM
You don't agree, Brad, but that's the way it is. The induced emf in a circuit crossed by a magnetic flux is obtained either by integrating E along the circuit or by the magnetic flux through its surface, it's a consequence of Stokes' theorem, it's a mathematical identity.
Emf = -dΦ/dt (Faraday's Law) = ∮E.dl  (E electric field = -∂A/∂t, dl a circuit element where current is induced).

If L changes, the circuit of the inductance changes, therefore ∮E.dl changes too, proof that dΦ/dt is also changing.

The formula U=-d(L*I)/dt given by Smudge is correct. See equation 8.69 here (https://books.google.fr/books?id=RlVVBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA619&lpg=PA619&dq=U%3D-d(L*I)/dt++"changing+inductance"&source=bl&ots=qjOM6_vb18&sig=SssnuGwe-74luJr7IrfFfGGSZ-U&hl=fr&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiY-dmJqqnfAhWvz4UKHUg6Df4Q6AEwBnoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=U%3D-d(L*I)%2Fdt%20%20"changing%20inductance"&f=false)

The part i do not agree with is-Induced voltage is proportional to rate-of-change of flux,

Voltage across a coil is induced by the electric field,there need be no magnetic flux at all if the coil is open. A magnetic field only exist if a current flows through the conductor,but an EFM can exist across a coil without the flow of current,hence-no magnetic field.

So induced voltage is a result of the changing electric field,not the changing magnetic field.


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 18, 2018, 04:35:30 PM
...
Voltage across a coil is induced by the electric field,there need be no magnetic flux at all if the coil is open.

If the coil is open and there is no magnetic flux, there is no induced voltage.
I rephrase:
the induced voltage is the integral of the electric field along the circuit of the inductance and this integral is the corollary of the variation of the magnetic flux through the circuit surface. It is not even a question of physics but of pure math once the magnetic field has been defined as the curl of the vector potential A, and the electric field as E=-∂A/∂t. See the Stockes theorem applied to the magnetic field.
∮A.dl = ∫∫dS.(∇xA) (A, dl, ∇, dS being vectors)

You see the electric field on the left through the vector potential, and the magnetic field on the right in the curl of A. The two equations are strictly equivalent.  [induced electric field along the circuit]  <=> [flux of the magnetic field through the circuit surface]. One can't exist without the other.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 18, 2018, 04:51:12 PM
bRAD IS DEAD RIGHT!  if I pulse a coil before the magnetic vortex starts explain that, or if I use a caducous wound coil the magnetics is canceled out! or if I block the magnetic field with dielectric charge Leny boys low no longer applies. Your talking conventional theory, that no longer applies here.  Ilke it or not!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on December 18, 2018, 05:34:23 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RLC_circuit
Pay attention to "Series RLC circuit".
That whole treatise is for linear circuits where R, L and C are linear.  Gorchelin is not dealing with linear circuits.  If you follow the link on that wikipedia page to "linear circuits" you will find the following statements.

Because they obey the superposition principle, linear circuits are governed by linear differential equations.......

In contrast, nonlinear circuits usually do not have closed form solutions. They must be analyzed using approximate numerical methods by electronic circuit simulation computer programs such as SPICE, if accurate results are desired.

The behavior of such linear circuit elements as resistors, capacitors, and inductors can be specified by a single number (resistance, capacitance, inductance, respectively).

In contrast, a nonlinear element's behavior is specified by its detailed transfer function, which may be given by a curved line on a graph. So specifying the characteristics of a nonlinear circuit requires more information than is needed for a linear circuit.
 
I too hope the topic of the error is closed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 18, 2018, 05:42:34 PM
Well which is it? Rate of change of E or H field? Then we can proceed talkin about open coils, which I pulse and get induced voltage on L2. The same way I circumvent Lentz law. Originally I thought Faraday was talking about the rate of change around a conductor. People think this is a coil of wire. It can be any conductor. Like gas in a tube or salt water
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on December 18, 2018, 06:06:18 PM
Smudge, equations with nonlinear elements are composed exactly the same as with linear ones. But their decision - here you are right - can not be analytical. But Gorchilin does not solve them anywhere, and only considers the energy of the constituent elements.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 18, 2018, 07:13:09 PM
A solution can also be analytical in non-linear cases, but only in simpler cases.
What we do know is that the fundamental equations are valid all the time when we take the instantaneous values (with some precautions), e. g. B(t)=µ(t).H(t) or I(t)=d(C(t).U(t))/dt...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 18, 2018, 07:24:24 PM
... if I pulse a coil before the magnetic vortex starts explain that, or if I use a caducous wound coil the magnetics is canceled out! or if I block the magnetic field with dielectric charge Leny boys low no longer applies.
The current and the magnetic field are the same reality. The magnetic field grows with the current, i.e. when charges move. It's also easily explained by relativity, just a question of relative motion between charges.

The magnetic field is never cancelled everywhere space, it's just that you're not looking in the right place.
Please, spare us your over-simplifications.

Quote
Your talking conventional theory, that no longer applies here.  Ilke it or not!
It applies everywhere except in the imaginary realm of beliefs.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on December 18, 2018, 08:18:33 PM
Smudge, equations with nonlinear elements are composed exactly the same as with linear ones. But their decision - here you are right - can not be analytical. But Gorchilin does not solve them anywhere, and only considers the energy of the constituent elements.
Yes and those energies are not given by the usual LI2/2 or CV2/2 if C and L are non-linear.  To see that you only have to chart flux v. current or charge v. voltage to establish the area that defines energy is not triangular.  If you don't want to do it graphically you need to do it by integration and that integral cannot assume that L or C is constant.  I stand by my paper, Gorchelin is in error.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 18, 2018, 10:11:39 PM

What happens if "everyone" is right?  It sure could/would create a complex "stew!" So to speak.

I think that is what Gorchilin used, at least that is what he did in the past.

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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 18, 2018, 10:15:31 PM

So, now I ask whats the interactive relationships of an Induced Electric Field, a Magnetic Field and Current? 

Does this explaination, taken from nature, make any sense? 

Induced voltage is an electric potential created by an electric field, magnetic field, or a current. The induced 
voltage in natural and man-made material is carefully planned in many disciplines, including safety and 
equipment protection. 

Field-induced voltage is created by either an electric or magnetic field. A voltage-induced electric field is 
when a capacitor or condenser is charged with a direct current and a positive charge on one plate and a 
negative charge on the other plate are induced. The same capacitor will have a voltage across its 
terminals, and this is field-induced voltage. In voltage alteration, the resulting current flow changes voltage 
level. When lightning discharges a cloud formation, the extremely high voltage that has previously caused 
the lightning decreases to a certain level determined by air and ground conditions. 

This voltage may further create a magnetic field, thus it may be referred to as an induced voltage magnetic 
field. When lightning hits the lightning arrestor on top of a radio tower, the current surge travels toward the 
ground on the grounding cable. This current generates a transient magnetic field that may induce a voltage 
on any nearby conductor. The transformation may recur as extensively as the intensity of the original energy 
allows. This may suggest why the damage to equipment due to current and voltage surges during lightning 
storms can be extensive.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 19, 2018, 06:08:09 AM
If the coil is open and there is no magnetic flux, there is no induced voltage.
I rephrase:
the induced voltage is the integral of the electric field along the circuit of the inductance and this integral is the corollary of the variation of the magnetic flux through the circuit surface. It is not even a question of physics but of pure math once the magnetic field has been defined as the curl of the vector potential A, and the electric field as E=-∂A/∂t. See the Stockes theorem applied to the magnetic field.
∮A.dl = ∫∫dS.(∇xA) (A, dl, ∇, dS being vectors)

You see the electric field on the left through the vector potential, and the magnetic field on the right in the curl of A. The two equations are strictly equivalent.  [induced electric field along the circuit]  <=> [flux of the magnetic field through the circuit surface]. One can't exist without the other.

Ah,perhaps we are not looking at the same thing here.

If an open coil is exposed to a changing electric field,then an emf will be produced across that coil.
This is what i am stating.

There need be no magnetic field to induce an EMF across two points.But when an EMF exists across two points,then an electric field also exists.


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on December 19, 2018, 07:32:34 AM
Yes and those energies are not given by the usual LI2/2 or CV2/2 if C and L are non-linear.  To see that you only have to chart flux v. current or charge v. voltage to establish the area that defines energy is not triangular.  If you don't want to do it graphically you need to do it by integration and that integral cannot assume that L or C is constant.  I stand by my paper, Gorchelin is in error.
Differentiation for nonlinear circuits is not a good method. It is better to use the integration and some mathematical techniques that allow you to bypass difficult places. This makes Gorchilin.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on December 19, 2018, 07:43:12 AM
smudge
Quote
Yes and those energies are not given by the usual LI2/2 or CV2/2 if C and L are non-linear.

In the summer of 2018 I developed some new theories and as is generally the case the normal always seems to morph into something new and quite strange. Now we know the energy stored on a capacitor is 1/2 CV^2 however few have bothered to question what this means?. Why 1/2?, and it was thought that this was an average as in other equations however it is not. Why 1/2?, when an ideal capacitor should be just QV until we realize one cannot charge a capacitor from any source without a series inductor unless we want to lose 1/2 the energy... but why?. Why?, not unlike the two capacitor paradox whenever a singular charge density on one surface is distributed over two surfaces with twice the surface area then so must the charge density be reduced by exactly 1/2 thus the energy must be reduced by exactly 1/2. It is charge density or the well known law of coulomb forces aka like charge repulsion. What is truly strange is that so few have been able to correlate the similarities between electron charge density and the well known gas laws such as Boyle's Law. So what is Boyle's Law?, P1*V1=P2*V2 or if the gas density is distributed over 2X the volume/surface area then the pressure is reduced by 1/2. The mind fart here is understanding that an energy "gain" could very well be an illusion when considering the fact that we squander away 1/2 the total energy with every translation from point A to B due to nothing more than our own ignorance to the facts. Wouldn't that be a shit show?, the icing on the cake as we destroy this fucking planet.


Thus it is not the variable C as a mostly meaningless lumped sum variable, not V as a singular variable never describing the extent of the true difference in potential but the potential in itself relating specifically to charge density. Expand the surface area through electron conduction by 2X then logically we can expect the the charge density to be reduced by 1/2 following well known laws thus the reasoning as to why 1/2 in the equation 1/2 CV^2 becomes known to us. Who would have thunk it?, the moment those charges redistribute themselves over a greater surface area there energy is diminished in some way?... it should have been obvious and in fact it is. However what is obvious when it is not?... unobvious obviousness?, that is...quite fucked.

Thus it is not some abstract notion such as non-linearity which comes into play in my mind and I believe that is the wrong level of reasoning. Non-linear with respect to what?, with respect to where and how?. If any given process was quite linear or natural yet my perception and reasoning of it was not which part of this equation is in fact non-linear?.  You see this is the problem with thinking we can be objective from a subjective perspective... it is an illusion. In truth our supposed claim of objectivity is simply a way of saying you should believe my personal flavor of subjectivity because I feel my take on reality is superior to yours which is kind of fucked up because we have reduced science and reality to a pissing contest.

My theory is this... nobody should tell me what I should believe they should convince me. Give me compelling proof or evidence or justification by way of logic and reason and I will be forever in there debt but know anything less is not enough nor should it be. Its's almost 2019 ladies and I intend to get this party started, the time for the standard tomfuckery and trumpignoramacy  has long since past and it's time for some for some real men to step up to the plate.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 19, 2018, 09:44:10 AM
Ah,perhaps we are not looking at the same thing here.

If an open coil is exposed to a changing electric field,then an emf will be produced across that coil.
This is what i am stating.

There need be no magnetic field to induce an EMF across two points.But when an EMF exists across two points,then an electric field also exists.

Brad

Now it's clearer. You're right there need be no magnetic field to induce an EMF across two points, but as soon as an open coil is exposed to a changing electric field, the magnetic field is generated. The magnetic field and the current are concomitant, they are not the cause of either of them (yes, it can be surprising), that was my point.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 19, 2018, 03:48:18 PM
Now it's clearer. You're right there need be no magnetic field to induce an EMF across two points, but as soon as an open coil is exposed to a changing electric field, the magnetic field is generated. The magnetic field and the current are concomitant, they are not the cause of either of them (yes, it can be surprising), that was my point.

So do we need to change Faraday’s law of induction, since it talks about the rate of change of the magnetic field? What if you form a changing electric field before the charge carriers move? There will be voltage induced, but no energy lost
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 19, 2018, 08:35:22 PM
What are you burbling on about? none of this stuff (pages) has anything to do with FE!  :( :(

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on December 19, 2018, 09:27:15 PM
onepower
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Why 1/2?
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Non-linear with respect to what?
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Give me compelling proof or evidence or justification by way of logic and reason
In the case of inductors it is well known that on the familiar B v. H chart an area represents an energy density.  What is not so well known is the fact that on a flux (Phi) v. mmf (Ni) chart an area represents energy directly.  The first image below shows the flux v. mmf chart for an inductor being charged from zero current at time t=0 to some current at t=T.  (I add those times because this whole issue arose from Gorchelin's paper and he uses those).  Clearly the inductance is a linear function of current.  The green area represents the energy now stored in the inductor, and that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  That area is a triangle and we all know that the area of a triangle is 1/2 base times height.  That is where the 1/2 comes in, and it is clearly seen the area is 1/2Li^2 where i is that final value at t=T.  Expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di), and since in this case Phi=Li/N the integral also yields that 1/2. 

The next image is for a non-linear inductor where the core goes into saturation.  Again the green area is the stored energy and it is clear that this is not given by 1/2Li^2.  Again that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  In either case it matters not a jot how i varies with time over the charge or discharge period, it can rise or fall linearly in sawtooth fashion or non-linearly like a half cosine wave.  Again expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di).

It is possible to get more energy out than that put in if the non-linearity changes between current rise and current fall.  For instance if during current rise we have something like the second image, then during current fall it changes to a linear fall as in the first image, then we put in the small green area and get out the large green area.  This requires some additional feature to change the flux v, mmf line.  Stearn demonstrated something in Dublin that did just that, they used toroidal coils wound onto ring cores on their stator and had magnets brought close to the cores by the rotor.  While the magnet was away from the core the flux and current build up was linear, but when the magnet got close it cross-saturated the core whence the coil flux dropped to near zero inducing voltage into a load resistor.  That produces a clockwise hysteresis loop yielding an electrical energy gain.  For this to be OU it must be shown that the differing forces on the magnet for approach and recede do not account for that energy gain.  I am not sure that Steorn ever did show that.
Smudge   

         
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 19, 2018, 10:17:26 PM
Wesley

Good to read , and I agree with AG on your movie ,I suppose you know this is a tuff audience
Might be a good idea to bring some Snickers Bars... :) [inside joke between film critiques here , I've read here you don't watch TV ]

Chet
few examples below during intermission at Wesley's theater
http://www.funnyplace.org/stream/snickers-cranky-old-man-25389/ (http://www.funnyplace.org/stream/snickers-cranky-old-man-25389/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ya0-OZ58s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ya0-OZ58s)

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 20, 2018, 12:12:21 AM
onepowerIn the case of inductors it is well known that on the familiar B v. H chart an area represents an energy density.  What is not so well known is the fact that on a flux (Phi) v. mmf (Ni) chart an area represents energy directly.  The first image below shows the flux v. mmf chart for an inductor being charged from zero current at time t=0 to some current at t=T.  (I add those times because this whole issue arose from Gorchelin's paper and he uses those).  Clearly the inductance is a linear function of current.  The green area represents the energy now stored in the inductor, and that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  That area is a triangle and we all know that the area of a triangle is 1/2 base times height.  That is where the 1/2 comes in, and it is clearly seen the area is 1/2Li^2 where i is that final value at t=T.  Expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di), and since in this case Phi=Li/N the integral also yields that 1/2. 

The next image is for a non-linear inductor where the core goes into saturation.  Again the green area is the stored energy and it is clear that this is not given by 1/2Li^2.  Again that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  In either case it matters not a jot how i varies with time over the charge or discharge period, it can rise or fall linearly in sawtooth fashion or non-linearly like a half cosine wave.  Again expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di).

It is possible to get more energy out than that put in if the non-linearity changes between current rise and current fall.  For instance if during current rise we have something like the second image, then during current fall it changes to a linear fall as in the first image, then we put in the small green area and get out the large green area.  This requires some additional feature to change the flux v, mmf line.  Stearn demonstrated something in Dublin that did just that, they used toroidal coils wound onto ring cores on their stator and had magnets brought close to the cores by the rotor.  While the magnet was away from the core the flux and current build up was linear, but when the magnet got close it cross-saturated the core whence the coil flux dropped to near zero inducing voltage into a load resistor.  That produces a clockwise hysteresis loop yielding an electrical energy gain.  For this to be OU it must be shown that the differing forces on the magnet for approach and recede do not account for that energy gain.  I am not sure that Steorn ever did show that.
Smudge   

       

Love the last paragraph.
Perhaps check out my new thread on OUR.


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 20, 2018, 01:37:40 AM
Wesley

Good to read , and I agree with AG on your movie ,I suppose you know this is a tuff audience
Might be a good idea to bring some Snickers Bars... :) [inside joke between film critiques here , I've read here you don't watch TV ]

Chet
few examples below during intermission at Wesley's theater
http://www.funnyplace.org/stream/snickers-cranky-old-man-25389/ (http://www.funnyplace.org/stream/snickers-cranky-old-man-25389/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ya0-OZ58s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18ya0-OZ58s)
Better stuff on youtube !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 20, 2018, 04:16:30 AM

Probably not.


Just non-linearity is probably not enough to yield free energy. If you use a harmonic balance simulator to simulate a circuit based on a nonlinear parametric inductance you will find that the sum of power across the whole spectrum is always less than the total input power. 


[size=78%]All non-linear elements will generate harmonics. Unfortunately, there is a law which dictates that, in a closed nonlinear system, the sum of the normalized power of all the harmonics combined is always less than one. The only time you can get some apparent gain is when dL/di < 0 but this gain usually happens in a high order harmonic component. I just cannot remember what this law is.[/size]


[size=78%]I think, if  you want to get something really phenomenal, you'd  better focus on violating some text-book physics laws, like v>c,  open-circuit instead of closed circuit... etc, etc...[/size]

onepower In the case of inductors it is well known that on the familiar B v. H chart an area represents an energy density.  What is not so well known is the fact that on a flux (Phi) v. mmf (Ni) chart an area represents energy directly.  The first image below shows the flux v. mmf chart for an inductor being charged from zero current at time t=0 to some current at t=T.  (I add those times because this whole issue arose from Gorchelin's paper and he uses those).  Clearly the inductance is a linear function of current.  The green area represents the energy now stored in the inductor, and that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  That area is a triangle and we all know that the area of a triangle is 1/2 base times height.  That is where the 1/2 comes in, and it is clearly seen the area is 1/2Li^2 where i is that final value at t=T.  Expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di), and since in this case Phi=Li/N the integral also yields that 1/2. 

The next image is for a non-linear inductor where the core goes into saturation.  Again the green area is the stored energy and it is clear that this is not given by 1/2Li^2.  Again that energy is recoverable when the inductor is discharged.  In either case it matters not a jot how i varies with time over the charge or discharge period, it can rise or fall linearly in sawtooth fashion or non-linearly like a half cosine wave.  Again expressed mathematically that energy is given by int(Phi.di).

It is possible to get more energy out than that put in if the non-linearity changes between current rise and current fall.  For instance if during current rise we have something like the second image, then during current fall it changes to a linear fall as in the first image, then we put in the small green area and get out the large green area.  This requires some additional feature to change the flux v, mmf line.  Stearn demonstrated something in Dublin that did just that, they used toroidal coils wound onto ring cores on their stator and had magnets brought close to the cores by the rotor.  While the magnet was away from the core the flux and current build up was linear, but when the magnet got close it cross-saturated the core whence the coil flux dropped to near zero inducing voltage into a load resistor.  That produces a clockwise hysteresis loop yielding an electrical energy gain.  For this to be OU it must be shown that the differing forces on the magnet for approach and recede do not account for that energy gain.  I am not sure that Steorn ever did show that.
Smudge   

       
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 20, 2018, 07:59:19 AM

WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT ?

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/06/27/nikola-tesla-fbi/

Chet never mind Marathon bars here is a clue is she really singing sail away or something else |?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkjQVh5KmQ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on December 20, 2018, 11:34:59 AM
...
What if you form a changing electric field before the charge carriers move? There will be voltage induced, but no energy lost

How do you change an electric field without moving charges?

You have to move the charges of the source of this field, and this displacement will influence other charges which will form the induced current.

19th century electromagnetism is a simplification, very practical for engineering, but using concepts that do not directly correspond to elements of reality (such as a "flux").

There are only charges surrounded by their coulomb field, and only one force, the coulomb force f=q1.q2/(4.π.ϵ0.r²).
For convenience we say that the charge q2 creates a field E=q2/4.π.ϵ0.r², and that a charge q1 in this field is subjected to a force F=q1.E.
From these two only elements of reality that must be considered, the charge with its field, and the coulomb force, everything else results directly, through the play of movements as described by relativity. Only relativity explains electromagnetism without ambiguity or paradoxes.

In 19th century electromagnetism, we have the Lorentz force F=q.vxB that deflects a charge moving in a magnetic field. But from the point of view of the charge in its proper referential, v=0 so there is no Lorentz force. The charge only sees an electric field, this field being E=vxB, which is the result I was talking about, related to the relativistic effect of velocity on the charge's electric field: when a charge moves, its coulomb field compresses in the direction of travel and extends transversely. This is a consequence of length contraction. Transverse reinforcement is what we see as a "magnetic field".

The magnetic field is the Lorentz transform of the electric field, and vice versa. It's the same physical reality, seen from different points of view because of relative movements. Take one and you see an electric field, the coulomb field, take another and you see what you call a magnetic field which is the coulomb field deformed by the speed.
The interplay of forces between the charges is only that of Coulomb's forces, taking into account the relativistic effects on the electric field as soon as charges move, and possibly the delay of mutual influence related to time needed for a field to be built.
The charges act in the same way on each other, whether they are on the source side or the destination side and the reciprocity prevents an action without reaction. Sorry, not the right way for free energy, we have to be much more smarter!  ???
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 20, 2018, 02:11:05 PM
 AG..Quote
WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS IS ALL ABOUT ?

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/06/27/nikola-tesla-fbi/ (https://www.thevintagenews.com/2018/06/27/nikola-tesla-fbi/)

Chet never mind Marathon bars here is a clue is she really singing sail away or something else |?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkjQVh5KmQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zkjQVh5KmQ)
end quote
Well not certain about the Tesla Link but the ENYA song my favorite and sailing my passion...and here at the 9 min 30 sec  Mark is sailing OU IMO a sailboat sailing 30 MPH for thousands of miles in no wind [just ...Gravity Flow?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-QQx_JynU&feature=youtu.be&t=560 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9-QQx_JynU&feature=youtu.be&t=560)

       -------------------
and also during intermission at Wesley's theater ,I see the one glove Challenge by TinMan to Smudge  above ...on another possible impossibility ??
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3684.msg70549;topicseen#msg70549 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3684.msg70549;topicseen#msg70549)


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 20, 2018, 02:41:50 PM

Hi Everyone,

Before commencing discussion.Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance.
------
2 Songs I would like to delicate just once this year-
One for Russian comrade/member whom indirectly assisted to translate some of the important Akula speech some time ago.This which I have previously attached in a another kapanadze topic some time ago.

Николай Емелин - Рукава
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRIlt1MOKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPRIlt1MOKw)

Another song for rest of the Audience.
Hozier - Take Me To Church (Dj Mike Radio Edit)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0J3xRPe40 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh0J3xRPe40)

-------------------------------------
Now back to topic

I need to relay this to some audience whom are researcher or maybe a book worm.

A very important but easy to read article related to Electrical power-
Knowledge of Power is Power

https://www.egauge.net/blog/2015/09/30/knowledge-about-power/ (https://www.egauge.net/blog/2015/09/30/knowledge-about-power/)

-----------------------------------------

I  would need any member to advise me if the ions emitted by tesla coil is considered diamagnetic or paramagnetic.Any Tesla setup for specific ion output?

Kindly explain some details as mention above which will assist me to understand certain experiment which I have limited knowledge on what i am dealing with.


Then I can proceed to reveal some more findings  related to Akula Kapanadze coil. :o 
If I am satisfied with the explanation.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 20, 2018, 07:57:50 PM
sorry to interrupt Magpwr important question ,But I have been trying to get this Link to work ..The work of Andrey Melnichenko discussion and observations ,if tests show promise a topic will be started here.these claims have been made for many many years ...trying to see why its taking so long [if provable]

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3683.msg70540;topicseen#msg70540 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3683.msg70540;topicseen#msg70540)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 21, 2018, 02:57:23 AM
Hi magpwr,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuR3TPcf7f8  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuR3TPcf7f8)
Might help a bit - paramagnetic Cu... 

https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Mount_Royal_University/Chem_1201/Unit_2._Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements/2.07%3A_Magnetic_Properties_of_Atoms_and_Ions (https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Mount_Royal_University/Chem_1201/Unit_2._Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements/2.07%3A_Magnetic_Properties_of_Atoms_and_Ions) 

http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/MagneticType.html (http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/MagneticType.html)

  Looks like Cu = paramagnetic  [copper metal] (somewhat affected by magnetic field)   
   and   Cu+ = diamagnetic   [copper ion] (not affected by magnetic field) {some theories}.

If the ion(1) is in "Air" (70% Nitrogen [paramagnetic] and 30% Oxygen [diamagnetic] 
or an electron particle {or energy wave} moving through the Air [?], or vacuum (CRT) [?].
(1) Ion is basically an atom or molecule where the number of electrons does not equal the total number of protrons, 
      yielding a positive or negative charge.

Example: Magnetic field (yoke) action on an electron beam (fast ion stream from hot cathode) directs the charged
electrons to a "pixel" location on a CRT's inner phosphor face. The released energy lights up the pixel.

Magnetic fields steer or deflect the electron beam but do not affect the electron speed, the HV [grid] does that.

[ ??? I could be wrong] It's a complex process at this detailed level and there are conflicting theories to pick from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA) 

Lots of "stuff" to ponder and sort out!



 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 21, 2018, 01:21:06 PM
sorry to interrupt Magpwr important question ,But I have been trying to get this Link to work ..The work of Andrey Melnichenko discussion and observations ,if tests show promise a topic will be started here.these claims have been made for many many years ...trying to see why its taking so long [if provable]

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3683.msg70540;topicseen#msg70540 (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3683.msg70540;topicseen#msg70540)



hi ramset,


I have read the article in pdf.I realized that this experiment is somewhat similar to what Akula have shown in his channel some time ago with 2 bulbs.


For simplicity I have attached Akula and the Transgender circuit for everyone to see.

In Akula video what I can recall is the bulb located on the left side of the circuit would dim but the bulb to the right would be brighter.
I have actually tested(In virtual circuit) the interesting part of Akula circuit which the nanosecond pulse generator around 5ns was actually created by 2 transistor connected in series to the gate of IRF840.

This was found to be around 5ns in the virtual settings once it hit the breakdown voltage. This is nicely done with minimal trigger circuit.
This is activated by the sine or square wave fed to the transformer(top) input.In circuit is shown as not connected to anything.

I merely associate these 2 circuits which does the same thing with bulbs but design differently.In Akula circuit the bulb to the left side of the circuit if dim would represent as low current passing through.
I have not dug deeper into it maybe because of other project distraction.But it's definitely worth the time to experiment with one of the 2 mentioned circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 21, 2018, 01:32:41 PM
All this talk about E field not being possible with the H field. So can I create a static electric field and then feed that into a capacitor and if I can't, what might be the reason?

What is stopping me using a Kelvin water dropper to charge a cap?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tinman on December 21, 2018, 01:47:54 PM
All this talk about E field not being possible with the H field. So can I create a static electric field and then feed that into a capacitor and if I can't, what might be the reason?

What is stopping me using a Kelvin water dropper to charge a cap?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

You can charge a cap with a static field,but as soon as the charges in that static field start to move into the cap,it is no longer a static field.
And when charges start to move or vary in time,a magnetic field then also exists.

Yes,you could charge a cap with a kelvin water dropper,and also with the likes of a peltier module.
But as a cap requires current flow to charge,a magnetic field is formed as soon as current starts to flow.

One question to ask would be this-- when you take a plastic comb,brush it through your hair,and then find that a small piece of paper is attracted to the comb,when the piece of paper was heading toward the comb,did any current flow?,and was a magnetic field also produced?.

The same can be asked when two opposite poles of two magnets are attracted to each other.
We know that a magnetic field already exists,but when the two unlike poles are pulled together,was there any flow of current,and did an electric field exist at that point in time?


Brad
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 21, 2018, 04:40:36 PM
Hi magpwr,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuR3TPcf7f8  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuR3TPcf7f8)
Might help a bit - paramagnetic Cu... 

https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Mount_Royal_University/Chem_1201/Unit_2._Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements/2.07%3A_Magnetic_Properties_of_Atoms_and_Ions (https://chem.libretexts.org/LibreTexts/Mount_Royal_University/Chem_1201/Unit_2._Periodic_Properties_of_the_Elements/2.07%3A_Magnetic_Properties_of_Atoms_and_Ions) 

http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/MagneticType.html (http://periodictable.com/Properties/A/MagneticType.html)

  Looks like Cu = paramagnetic  [copper metal] (somewhat affected by magnetic field)   
   and   Cu+ = diamagnetic   [copper ion] (not affected by magnetic field) {some theories}.

If the ion(1) is in "Air" (70% Nitrogen [paramagnetic] and 30% Oxygen [diamagnetic] 
or an electron particle {or energy wave} moving through the Air [?], or vacuum (CRT) [?].
(1) Ion is basically an atom or molecule where the number of electrons does not equal the total number of protrons, 
      yielding a positive or negative charge.

Example: Magnetic field (yoke) action on an electron beam (fast ion stream from hot cathode) directs the charged
electrons to a "pixel" location on a CRT's inner phosphor face. The released energy lights up the pixel.

Magnetic fields steer or deflect the electron beam but do not affect the electron speed, the HV [grid] does that.

[ ??? I could be wrong] It's a complex process at this detailed level and there are conflicting theories to pick from.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sENgdSF8ppA) 

Lots of "stuff" to ponder and sort out!
hi SolarLab,
I appreciate the effort made for trying to explain ion to me.It is not a easy thing to fully understand. :)
Since you have brought up CRT which i had read sometime back but forgotten something valuable.
Related to display-HV in crt apart from charging the high voltage plates at the back of crt and accelerates Electron beam.


--------------------------
Going back to nature-

In nature  "ionization" plays a crucial role in tropospheric "cloud formation"
No lightning(HV) can be produced without clouds


Ions->HV
-------------------------
Related to bench experiment-
Need to do the reverse from nature.

Generate HV from tesla coil.

Using HV to generate ions (Likely paramagnetic ions.Wild guess for now) to alter the NMR of Cu.

HV->Ions
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 21, 2018, 04:41:14 PM
Why bother with that snail form of charge, It's antique junk  ;D A plasma ball would be a much quicker if your really that desperate and you could try to cover the ball in a silver paper ;D to collect the ions but you might need some diodes and high voltage caps as well.

BUT BE AWARE CHARGING A CAP WITH STATIC IS NOT 'SCALAR' BUT IT CAN STILL KILL YOU AND IF YOU USE AN EARTH IT WILL BE MORE LETHAL.

Ps note some countries label mobile phones as GRADE 2 CARCINOGENIC  ;D ;D DUE TO THE MICROWAVE OUTPUT have you tried seeing if thats a form of  scalar?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 22, 2018, 05:35:36 AM

Air Ions and Electrostatic Formulas [information from an instrument maker - good]

Electrostatic Formulas for Force, Voltage, Discharge Time etc. on Charged Samples or Surfaces 
From: AlphaLab Inc.   
https://www.alphalabinc.com/electrostatic-formulas/  (https://www.alphalabinc.com/electrostatic-formulas/)

[relates to AlphaLab's Air Ion Counters and Surface DC Voltmeters and other instruments]
Contains some excellent information and formulas regarding electrostatics, ions, etc... 

About Air Ions (included in the above): 

https://www.alphalabinc.com/about-air-ions/ (https://www.alphalabinc.com/about-air-ions/)

{ambient environmental effects on the system - enclosed in fish tank ??? ?}


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 22, 2018, 01:18:59 PM
So the microwaves would be as dangerous as coffee, salmon, chips, pasta, canned tomatoes, milk, sugar... (https://www.msn.com/en-in/health/nutrition/the-20-most-carcinogenic-foods/ss-AAkcj2t) which are also carcinogenic?
If you eat chips while on the phone, you'll surely drop dead. I'm also terrified!    ;D ;D ;D
What isn't? nothing is sacred once the MonsanoSatan flys get on it, but that's another distortion. I was just testing if you had discovered the other connection between the phone and the microwave and what you seek.
PS You eat chips i use sockets, do you mean pomms frits?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 22, 2018, 11:43:41 PM
Happy New Year From Wesley USA
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 23, 2018, 04:46:08 AM

Very well done.
However, do you really need the line 6 (i.e. TEM line) in the circuit?
The ground itself is already a TM waveguide. You should not need a closed circuit to make it work.
Blueplanet

Happy New Year From Wesley USA
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 23, 2018, 05:07:47 AM

I have been lurking in this thread, feeling very hesitant to post anything technical. This time, I need to make an exception:

(Just watch the video demonstration in this page for more information)
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8548540?arnumber=8548540&source=authoralert (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8548540?arnumber=8548540&source=authoralert)





Happy New Year From Wesley USA
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)

Wesley


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 23, 2018, 08:33:43 AM
Wesley, many thanks for sharing your interesting video, be safe be aware and Merry Christmas to you and your family.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 23, 2018, 10:15:45 AM
Best video i have seen since slice bread.
Thanks for sharing.
Merry Christmas and  A PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 23, 2018, 01:17:58 PM
The energy-saving light bulb is on. With an ordinary Tesla coil, too, they will light up and you don't have to touch anything.
When you put the microwave bulb into the RF stream, it will also light up.
I see such similarities here.

What about your health - if the rubber is damaged....

Transferring this power to the output makes sense and shouldn't be too harmful, so if the 90 degree phase shift generates power, why let it go into the ether?

I see here two common or different versions for Kapanadze.

1.accelerating electrons by HV
2.accelerating electrons through a 90 degree phase (and/or HV)


---
Wesołych Świąt !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 23, 2018, 02:06:10 PM
Nikola Tesla Quote:
The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to
think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.


Hi Solarlab. It appears to me that many people seem to think that someone is either
insane or not insane, delusional or not delusional, but in my experience that is not at all
a correct perspective. In my experience the delusional/sanity level of any given person in
this world actually falls on a bell curve, along the lines of what I indicate in the following attachment.

As you can see in the attached drawing, the center of the bell curve is actually quite a ways over
to the right, well into the more delusional range of the scale. :) I believe that this is a much more
accurate view of the where people in this world really sit in regards to how delusional each given individual is. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 23, 2018, 02:11:48 PM
in these times "viewing reality as it is" is very far from what you get from TV and other sources. Delusional are the people that believe all that
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 23, 2018, 02:49:06 PM
in these times "viewing reality as it is" is very far from what you get from TV and other sources. Delusional are the people that believe all that

Delusional are probably all of us in the grand scheme of things. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 23, 2018, 03:07:12 PM

Hi,


There is no return wire. The energy propagates along the surface of water in much the same manner which Marconi or Tesla has suggested. The meter has no connection with the source. It was there just to show you how much voltage (and current) was captured by the neon lamp, which requires 120 volts to light up.


As I explained to you in another thread, you may need an RF ground but this RF ground is no more than a small piece of open ended metal (so-called antenna), a body or whatever similar. It does not need a physical connection with the ground of the energy source.


Marconi and Tesla were the originator of the concept of monopole wireless power transfer. Zenneck and Sommerfeld have just tried to explain Marconi's or Tesla's experimental results with Maxwell's equations. 


Zenneck theory is in direct contradiction to the law of relativity. It also violates the law of energy conversation. Perhaps, this was the real reason why it has attracted so many nay sayers. However, Zenneck's controversial theory has been experimental proven by many research groups.


Don't hesitate to ask questions.


Blueplanet





Isn't that too good to be true? Because whenever it is Avramenko's transmission by a single wire, what I observe is only a circuit looped by a terminal capacity, to ground, and so back to the generator. Their experiment on water is not fully convincing. Nevertheless this paper could raised a doubt in my mind.

I will now take a look at the other documents referred to in this one, and at the other documents of the authors.

In any case, great subject, right on the mark.
Thank you blueplanet!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 23, 2018, 04:09:11 PM
  So, Wesley, where is the free energy part???  All shown videos are using a source of power to run the device.  Where is the similarity to what Kapanadze or Ruslan has done to light 4 to 5.000w worth of bulbs, with NO extra power source.  What was shown is only lighting leds bulbs just a few feet away.

Hi Nick. I also don't see the connection between Zenneck waves and Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan setups,
but maybe we are missing something there. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 23, 2018, 04:14:41 PM
We are living in a world that is full of illusion. One source of illusion is the so-called Norton wave.  Another one is C.R. Burrows' theory. Both of them were inventor of fake science. The topic of surface wave has completely lost favor for one century simply because of their junks. The more you read their junks, the more you will get confused.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 23, 2018, 04:22:02 PM

I should add one more: scalar wave :)

We are living in a world that is full of illusion. One source of illusion is the so-called Norton wave.  Another one is C.R. Burrows' theory. Both of them were inventor of fake science. The topic of surface wave has completely lost favor for one century simply because of their junks. The more you read their junks, the more you will get confused.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on December 23, 2018, 04:28:55 PM
Nothing new just scalar wave ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasAn7aJa6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdKqdpztuY

Nelson Rocha
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 23, 2018, 04:48:55 PM
Nothing new just scalar wave ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasAn7aJa6o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGdKqdpztuY
Nelson Rocha

Hi Nelson. Nice experiments. I am not convinced that what you are showing there is related
to scalar waves however. I think it is just demonstrating the ability of of EM waves to propagate
down a single wire and to couple energy into conductive materials.

Our mad scientist friend Wesley showed a light bulb lighting on a block of plastic, which should not be conductive
at all, so I found that quite interesting. I am not sure why the light bulb lights up when Wesley touches it to the plastic block.
It would appear that maybe the plastic block builds up a static electric charge on its surface somehow, or maybe
it acts more like a conductor when radiated with high frequency radiation in certain frequency ranges? 

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 23, 2018, 05:34:51 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BbVqrDv1bk

This is an experiment with a piece of Teflon which keeps the charges in itself and transmits it to a rotating disc. I don't know how much it has to do with this, but obviously the Teflon affects the increase in voltage.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 23, 2018, 07:15:08 PM
  So, Wesley, where is the free energy part???  All shown videos are using a source of power to run the device.  Where is the similarity to what Kapanadze or Ruslan has done to light 4 to 5.000w worth of bulbs, with NO extra power source.  What was shown is only lighting leds bulbs just a few feet away.
Firstly, thanks to Wesley for taking the time to put together his interesting video. However, like Nick, I'm wondering where the free energy enters the demonstrations shown in the video. We are led to believe that Kapanadze's devices had no conventional mains or battery power supply and started simply from the pulse from a small alkaline dry PP3 or similar battery. What was the source, nature and quantity of the supply of energy used to charge the dialectric material / glass of water in the video? I was lighting neon lamps and LED lamps years ago from the terminals of isolated SLAB's when running Bedini SSSG's.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 23, 2018, 07:31:49 PM
Are you sure it's Teflon?  (the types I know are not translucent).
I wonder what makes the asymmetry that allows to separate positive and negative charges while the setup seems symmetrical.

The Teflon is the applied rectangle and the disk is Plexiglass.
This is my film.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 23, 2018, 07:46:23 PM
The board is Tivar   anti-static plate
made for people working with sensitive electronics.
1.5x12x12 inch
dk 2-5-10
It prevents electrostatic  damage   to components.

Label is shown on my video.
But that only says that you do not  analyze my video  carefully.
As  always  the devil is in details .

However at the end of video  I  used  pad  made from rubber  with Ortec name on it.
 - between glass and  plate


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 23, 2018, 08:55:34 PM
The board is Tivar   anti-static plate
made for people working with sensitive electronics.

Hi Wesley. I thought in the video you said it was non-conductive plastic, but I watched the
video just after waking up, so I wasn't too alert yet.  :)
I didn't hear you say it was an anti-static plate. What is the resistance if you measure across it
with an ohmmeter? Does it measure a resistance?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 23, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
Hi Wesley. I thought in the video you said it was non-conductive plastic, but I watched the
video just after waking up, so I wasn't too alert yet.  :)
I didn't hear you say it was an anti-static plate. What is the resistance if you measure across it
with an ohmmeter? Does it measure a resistance?
You didn't read Morey's book pdf'S this type of wave whatever you want to call it can eat through glass plastic or any insulator.
 and suck energy from you given the right characteristics and a Faraday cage is of no use whatsoever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAnfBemgyb4
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 23, 2018, 09:27:58 PM
Hi Wesley. I thought in the video you said it was non-conductive plastic, but I watched the
video just after waking up, so I wasn't too alert yet.  :)
I didn't hear you say it was an anti-static plate. What is the resistance if you measure across it
with an ohmmeter? Does it measure a resistance?

 Tivar or UHMW Polyethylene is a type of thermoplastic polyethylene that features an extremely high molecular density.
This makes it a durable material, with the highest impact resistance of any thermoplastic presently made.
It has low moisture absorption, a very low coefficient of friction, is self-lubricating, and is highly resistant to abrasion.

Very high resistance.
Protects against electrical charge build-up

But that is not  the most important.
Wire must have an insulation to work with surface wave.
And if winded with  magnet wire it will not work.

Just forget the lightbulb. This is not important.
It is like looking at the  car and thinking is it electric or gasoline or any other fuel operated.
Just look inside   of it...
Do not look at  car front head lights.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Georg46 on December 23, 2018, 10:14:38 PM
Hi Wesly I've been your followers for a couple of years now - when you took part in our Polish forums. I have to say that I admire your knowledge, analytical and synthetic skills;) as well as your stubbornness, commitment and reasonableness in FE activities.  It seems to me that we have a common "Alma Mater": PG ;)  I am by profession and passion the designer of electronic systems, based mainly on single chip microprocessors, which I'm doing until now, even after I've retired. Coming back after this personal introduction to the subject: I think that a "coupled pair" of two generators generating simultaneously functions such as sine and cosine (i.e. a 90 degree shift) could be easily realized through DDSs (Numerically Controlled Oscillators - NCOs). Then only the power amplifiers on some powerful MOSTEFs, the Tesla coil and fast rectifiers on the secondary side. The question is what frequency the device should work on: do you follow the principles used in the construction of the Tesla coil? I greet you and the Forum members beautifully! Merry, Healthy and Successful Christmas and Happy New Year!!! Jerzy
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 24, 2018, 01:53:10 AM
Tivar or UHMW Polyethylene is a type of thermoplastic polyethylene that features an extremely high molecular density.
This makes it a durable material, with the highest impact resistance of any thermoplastic presently made.
It has low moisture absorption, a very low coefficient of friction, is self-lubricating, and is highly resistant to abrasion.

Very high resistance.
Protects against electrical charge build-up

But that is not  the most important.
Wire must have an insulation to work with surface wave.
And if winded with  magnet wire it will not work.

Hello Wesley. Now that you have explained that the tivar plastic block is for anti-static use,
it makes more sense to me that you can light the light bulb when touching it. It has carbon
added to it to give it the conductive anti-static properties (accounts for the dark black color).  A data sheet
for this type of product states:
"The incorporation of an effective carbon black grade renders this material electrostatic dissipative properties. "
This gives it the conductivity to absorb energy from the TEM waves radiating in the room, although the surface
may be plastic coated so you may measure the surface as being an open circuit with an ohmmeter.

As with Nelson's videos, I am not so sure your demonstration is showing Zenneck waves (or scalar waves in Nelson's case),
but I find it interesting that the distilled water also lights the light bulb. The issue I see with what you are showing
is that you probably don't need a dielectric at all to light the light bulb. I think you should be able to lay a sheet
of aluminum foil on the table and touch the light bulb to the aluminum foil, and the light bulb would also light.
This is because the EM waves transfer energy to conductive objects, in the near field at least. However, maybe there
is more to it than that, but I would need to see some explanation regarding how what you are doing is different
that what we can expect to see when just radiating with 'ordinary' TEM waves radiation. I don't think you have done that,
but maybe I am missing something.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 24, 2018, 02:33:11 AM
Dear friends I'm not at home and my wife really  expect from me to have more time dedicated
to  time spend  together  after long week  making the video.
Note:
1.please do not confuse  Fig # with  coil #
Fig# say about drawing
Coil# says about  particular  coil on the given  Fig.

2. Please assume that Tariel know about energy transfer using surface wave.
He did not understand  how it works but knew how to make it work.
He had no idea about surface wave.

3.He  also noticed that  High Power energy  receivers    for some reason works   when  "hold in hands"

4. credible source: Tariel got  major part of his art from old Russian scientists who  for some reason  vanished shortly after meeting him.

5. After Tariel  start to measure using primitive tools amount of light from light bulbs he conformed that  heat exchange comes to strange but real-
-the same lightbulb gave more light than  if it was  connected to the grid for much less  energy  use indicated at input.
6. Tariel used coaxial cable  and/or HV  automotive cable and made prick  in the wire to just get the right   phase shift.
7. Another  way is to use additionally  a capacitor and that can be seen in his "Tent  presentation"
8. Tariel is just old architect who learnt all the  basic electric knowledge .
That  is why he was in need  to have someone he could trust and who  knows more.
That was the guy who was always with him on every video.
 
===============================================================
Short:

- in  https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=201 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=201) you see winding used by Alexey Pastukhov that  is matching the  way we  winded  coils in Lithuania Experiment.
 For more information about  Lithuania Experiment   contact Arunas T-1000

These are the two  primary windings.
In 3:57 you see  two pipes   structure instead of one pipe proposed by  Andrey. (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=217 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=217))
The pipe is made from soft iron or you can use ferrite kielbasa (like  SR 193) with  conductive  soft iron pipe inside or even  copper foil  around( preferred iron or bunch of very soft iron wires instead of pipe)
The second pipe is connected to ground. Do you remember me  pounding at,  two ground structure for so long ?
I went to South  America to check it.

The pipe is replacement of coil #5. and both the figure# 2 and figure# 3 are shown here: https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=454 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=454)
 At fig3#  coil# 5  is replaced  by iron pipe ( or  in my case by two pipes now is called  coil #10)
However  coil  from  figure #3 as coil made  not  from pipe but from wire is presented in  figure #2  - will work as well.

The Charge Line Bournlea  I specified in words as:
Quote
"You can not see it  at the driver"
That means  driver will not  see it.
It is also said:
Quote
" depends where you are in regards to  50 ohm impedance of the coil you will have  inductive or capacitive reactance leading and  that can be seen at the Smith Chart."
( the wording is little  different.)
We are looking for capacitive response from the Charge Line.
It is also said :
 
Quote
it makes voltage reversed in sign doubling the voltage
( the wording is little  different.)
 
In video https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=482 (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=482) I have shown the structure with two  primaries in little  different  arrangement.
You can clearly see  at the bottom of Tesla coil first primary and   on the top of it second primary
However coupling was different . That means primaries have not been identical.
the upper coil used  air gap and  ferrite core like in flyback.
That gap serves as temporary energy storage. in every   flyback transformer and that is what  makes trick in  phase delay + Charge Line.
Once you  understand how the mechanism works , "there are many ways to  Rome".

But coil #5 fig #3 (from my  last video link above )  must be in resonance. so it is  frequency dependent.( slowly increase the frequency till you get it)
Akula, Ruslan had used two generators  with rectangular  shape impulses making 90degrees phase shift.

Tariel  used mostly  sinusoidal wave form that made  the life easier  for him, but the effect  to achieve significant  energy, was much more difficult to do.
("Sinus is good  up to 1kW till becomes  a pain")
Yes  square wave is more friendly but so much frequency dependent.

The important   is the  rapid sharp rise time of square  impulse to make violent interaction that is why it is preferable.
https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=541 (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=541) this part was heavily criticized by  SolarLab.
But that is just another way to go.. using plasma and spark gap.
In patent application of  Andrey Pastukhov he mentioned about means of  transmission line : wire, gas, air/plasma.

In some instances Tariel  used  electrical motors as shown in my  video https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=651 (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=651)

The interaction between two primary coils and coil #5 must be violent.
The frequency and amplitude must be the same but  phase must be shifted at 90.
Practical observation shows that slight (but rapid) !!!!!!!  variation  of frequency of  one oscillator even for fraction of 1 Hz in sharp square signal make trick  well done.. However it is observable with sinusoidal as well.
that can be seen in my old video:
https://youtu.be/F2BED9aDEYw?t=94 (https://youtu.be/F2BED9aDEYw?t=94). look down  the video.
So just wiggling ( rapidly one of oscillators  makes  that strange response....
 
That what everyone  ignored was small word NMR https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=430 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=430)
and that makes  us back to Lithuania Experiment.
 
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=520 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=520)  shows  all mechanism and similarity of all of the guys who made the device .
It also says that  for square wave shape it is recommended to use two generators instead of  just one and capacitive  phase shift.
Starting  from that point in my video  it is the most important part   to understand.
 
Do not get confused: Yes even if Tariel knew about  surface wave energy transfer  he went much deeper to get his self-runner. ... just because he could...
not because he know  what he is  looking at.

That is why he could  fool people around .. even in front of Turkish  Ankara scientific  institutions  when glass table presentation was taking place.
Out there  they build Faraday cage and made Tariel life more difficult  but ...  there was 2.5 mill on the table for TMZ and Ministry of Finance was involved.
Tariel simply did not have much choice.. do the job right...
TMZ  was dead in 2008 because Tariel did not want to  cooperate and say more.


My dear troll group visiting this  forum: 
I know how much push "they" make  on you,  to get the job done.
I really feel your pain..  and stress you are exposed too.
How much  do they pay you for it...?
There is a  nice  group of  guys on this forum,  who can easily spot  you..
Because you  are characteristic.

Secret of Tariel , Akula, Ruslan  is also characteristic , but  is clean , innocent.
All they wanted   is money for their work.
They are not Trolls.


I wish the best to you all. Including Trolls.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 24, 2018, 02:59:07 AM
Hi Wesley. If you are busy, there is no need to answer.
Well, I really don't see anything in your explanation above that requires surface waves/Zenneck waves
to be involved. It is almost like you are trying to shoehorn that in, but there is really no requirement
for it there that I can see. Also, in your demonstration in your video, I would be very surprised if you
also couldn't lay a sheet of aluminum foil on the table and the light the light bulb as well. No need
for a dielectric sheet that I can see anyway. Just some honest feedback. All the best for the new year.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 24, 2018, 05:41:27 AM
Void my friend.  go back to my  post from above :
2. Please assume that Tariel knows about energy transfer using surface wave.
 Please notice how easily the LED  that should work at 440V 1A lights uphold in hands of the first and second guy touching it in the beginning of my last video.
 Whatever dirt we may put on Tariel......... he did it.

I got to go....
Wesley
Wesley Yes he did my Russian is atrocious but I stuck at translating a good bit of his garden party video, when he was in the room with the bed he says he found a way of locking the two waveform phases but which ones back then now it all adds up thanks very much. ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 24, 2018, 11:22:47 AM
I should add one more: scalar wave :)
Mr Blue Planet I have a question for you, do you know what a scalar wave is exactly and what produces it ??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 24, 2018, 12:05:02 PM
Does it agree?

2x sine 10V / 50Hz
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 24, 2018, 12:08:54 PM

As Wesley has pointed out, please assume that Zenneck surface wave is the only key to understanding of  the physics of overunity.


I am sorry I am not interested in scalar wave, norton wave, etc, etc.



Mr Blue Planet I have a question for you, do you know what a scalar wave is exactly and what produces it ??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 24, 2018, 02:12:50 PM
Does it agree?

2x sine 10V / 50Hz
Hi r2pl,
I have attached simplified version. :o
The hint was already provided in my previous link few days back. Knowledge of  power is power.
Square wave 90° phase shifted as attached.Obtained from some random sites.
Circuit indirectly related to HV interrupter phase shift circuit was also attached by me 2..4 weeks back.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 24, 2018, 03:57:14 PM
So is a surface wave ET looking down seeing some illuminate oil tycoon giving a hand gesture only when ET gets closer sees it's his two fingers ie little finger and index finger. Yes, very funny who do we trust ET, the Illuminati, or the remote viewer on none.   :'( :-[
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 24, 2018, 04:04:34 PM
Hi r2pl,
I have attached a simplified version. :o
The hint was already provided in my previous link a few days back. Knowledge of  power is power.
Square wave 90° phase shifted as attached. Obtained from some random sites.
Circuit indirectly related to HV interrupter phase shift circuit was also attached by me 2..4 weeks back.
you can do it with 2D types or JK flip-flops but you need 2 clock pulses to drive it with (easy) another set of output transistors to drive the coil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 24, 2018, 04:36:38 PM
For those who would be interested, as I had only found Melnichenko's last patent in Russian, I had it translated by DeepL (except the first page), see attached file.

I recall that several years ago when Melnichenko had his website up and also had
his demonstration video, I tried replicating his setup he was showing at that time, and
I could not see any signs of OU in that setup. It was several years ago that I tried replicating
that setup, but I seem to recall that I found that Melnichenko was making some obvious error in his
calculations or assumptions, although I can't recall now what the error was that I found.
It might possibly have been that he wasn't taking phase angle properly into account, but I can't recall now for sure.
At any rate, I could not find any indication of OU in that particular setup that Melnichenko was
showing on his web page a few years ago, and he provided all the details for his simple circuit setup,
so it shouldn't have been a matter of missing something in the setup.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 25, 2018, 12:38:50 AM
 I have reedited  my previous post so please read it again.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 25, 2018, 06:34:32 AM
hi Wesley,
Good day to you.
I merely need clarification is polyphase as mention and Polyphasic waveform the same thing.Not easy for me to visualize. I have attached old experiment base on similar waveform base on a single shot of high voltage nanosecond pulse.
Hi that's a lot of diodes how about using a dc to dc to get about 150 volts and using a fast low voltage bipolar transistor and
exploiting it's breakdown voltage to get around 5 nano secs? it would be far cheaper.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 25, 2018, 07:19:56 AM
Hi that's a lot of diodes how about using a dc to dc to get about 150 volts and using a fast low voltage bipolar transistor and
exploiting it's breakdown voltage to get around 5 nano secs? it would be far cheaper.
Hi AlienGrey,
The reason i reveal my previous circuit (Divide by 3)only because i saw that you created a pcb for the pll project.Since i thought it is pointless to give to someone whom merely do electronic components assembly.

Recall that i achieved around 178khz but 2Vpp sine-wave from Kapanadze coil was because i was using low frequency IGBT.Snubber circuit resistors need to changed to 10Ohms 2...3watt(SMD low inductive).Akula if he still sticked with IGBT it would be 50N6S2(Because base on datasheet can handle up to 200khz).In this case i don't see the harm in using Mosfets since snubber issue was resolved.Even if you take inductance reading from kapanadze coil output and combine with 5nf as was used in provided Akula circuit.Then you will roughly know what is the estimate resonance frequency of the kapanadze coil output as base on Akula circuit.

May i ask have you done anything related to my provided circuit during December.
Honestly i am little lazy to touch any project during this holiday season except research. :D :D :D


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2018, 09:47:08 AM
Hi r2pl,
I have attached simplified version. :o
The hint was already provided in my previous link few days back. Knowledge of  power is power.
Square wave 90° phase shifted as attached.Obtained from some random sites.
Circuit indirectly related to HV interrupter phase shift circuit was also attached by me 2..4 weeks back.

Hi magpwr,

I think you've done everything to make sure it doesn't work.

You don't have to turn the phase 90 degrees, just do one of the two possibilities:
Invert the coil or/and give a half sine signal.

---
My question is now:

Does Kapanadze give HV or generates HV?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2018, 09:52:13 AM
For believers in patents:

Patents are for the rich and for corporations. When a poor person has something that a rich person wants, a rich person simply takes it, so when someone tells me about a patent, it's naive.
What we want to do will not be protected by any patent. Is it clear to everyone!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2018, 12:09:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA5cZ2Mvj5I
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 25, 2018, 01:34:13 PM
r2fpl  ...the FE patent trap
getting a patent application for a true FE device is like handing a man a stick to beat you with.
Regardless IMO it would be like trying to patent clean water or fresh air [ethics ?]


More from Naser Technology in English

https://www.facebook.com/naser.technology/videos/vb.287496675051713/832476320291928/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/naser.technology/videos/vb.287496675051713/832476320291928/?type=2&theater)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 25, 2018, 01:41:56 PM
r2fplthe patent trap
getting a patent application for a true FE device is like handing a man a stick to beat you with.
Regardless IMO it would be like trying to patent clean water or fresh air [ethics ?]


More from Naser in english

https://www.facebook.com/naser.technology/videos/vb.287496675051713/832476320291928/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/naser.technology/videos/vb.287496675051713/832476320291928/?type=2&theater)
Yeah! the Bushes were getting there slowly. They were trying it with people by cloning and changing peoples DNA, it's about greed,
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 25, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Dear magpwr
I'm taking a minute as  my wife after Hanukah and my video  making work, expects some  attention.
Please  look at application of polyphase  and effects of this application by carefully reading   US 2018/0183128 A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en)
look for word polyphase e g  [0028]
I'm sure it helps a lot.
 
..also some  about surface wave as "I think many of you simply do  not  understand  it  yet.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2018, 04:56:29 PM
   Stivep:
  To help us understand, you need to show some proof. Not just a guy lighting a small led bulb a foot away from it's source. Perhaps it's you that doesn't get it. There is no free energy in surface waves, no OU, nor self running, either.   So, what is all the hype about???  We are still waiting for your supposed bomb shell of a device. Did you forget about that, already?  Or, I guess I must of missed it.  The fact is that you are showing nothing new, and trying to impress with useless surface waves, and the like.  Really Wesley... Are you going to keep kicking a dead horse???

Note that the method of producing a wave for Tesla is determined by the two coils which are in opposition and their phase angle is 90 degrees. Many of the devices described mention an angle of 90 degrees whatever it means.
Did you do this system for Tesla ? I didn't do it so I don't know if there is more than just a remote energy transfer. In this setting of coils I see the possibility of generating an additional "wave" or something there for the effect of ether stimulation. It's all my theory, but it's worth checking it every time. Because once you don't check and ...

Sorry that I answer not asked.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2018, 07:28:58 PM
NickZ:

I'm sorry that you didn't understand what I wrote. This is translated by GTranslator :(
Writing the answer you answered partially to the question but I still don't know if you are using a 2x primary coil for the Tesla coil? If so, I understand your fears that there is no more energy from the inserted energy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 25, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
His invented devices do work (many have sucessfully tested certain versions), use conventional theories, and can be
readily analyzed using advanced electromagnetic computer aided engineering tools. If you have followed Andrey at all,
you also know he has a variety of differing designs, including some self running types.

Hi Solarlab. Who has successfully tested certain versions of Melnichenko's devices?
Where has Melnichenko demonstrated a self-running device?
All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 25, 2018, 07:50:46 PM
As Wesley has pointed out, please assume that Zenneck surface wave is the only key to the understanding of the physics of overunity.


I am sorry I am not interested in a scalar wave, Norton wave, etc, etc.
Mr. Blue planet You asked a question by saying in another post by stating Wesley needed earth return wire or should do.
Obviously, your self and others don't understand how a 'scalar' or whatever you wish to call it works or what it actually is Well for your reference and others
who don't know it is a 'Dielectric' charge are you any the wiser now? a dielectric charge is like charging a capacitor and throwing it, it's a dielectric charge
produced by the top load of the Tesla coil.  You don't necessarily need the earth.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 25, 2018, 10:02:20 PM

Where did you get this story from?


I don't recall such a stupid statement.


I have never said the receiving end of a wireless energy harvesting system need a earth return wire. I said it might need a RF ground, but this RF ground is completely different thing.


As I said many many times (since the beginning when I rejoined this forum), I stand by the original concept of Zenneck/Sommerfeld surface wave or Tesla's surface wave, or Marconi's surface wave.


I am an independent researcher who sticks to fact. You don't need to convince me with your belief in "scalar" wave.


If you think you are well ahead of Zenneck/Sommerfeld, Tesla or Marconi, that's also fine with me.



Mr. Blue planet You asked a question by saying in another post by stating Wesley needed earth return wire or should do.
Obviously, your self and others don't understand how a 'scalar' or whatever you wish to call it works or what it actually is Well for your reference and others
who don't know it is a 'Dielectric' charge are you any the wiser now? a dielectric charge is like charging a capacitor and throwing it, it's a dielectric charge
produced by the top load of the Tesla coil.  You don't necessarily need the earth.

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 26, 2018, 12:28:55 AM
Where did you get this story from?


I don't recall such a stupid statement.


I have never said the receiving end of a wireless energy harvesting system need a earth return wire. I said it might need a RF ground, but this RF ground is completely different thing.


As I said many many times (since the beginning when I rejoined this forum), I stand by the original concept of Zenneck/Sommerfeld surface wave or Tesla's surface wave, or Marconi's surface wave.


I am an independent researcher who sticks to fact. You don't need to convince me with your belief in "scalar" wave.


If you think you are well ahead of Zenneck/Sommerfeld, Tesla or Marconi, that's also fine with me.
Thanks for your 'stupid' comment which says more about you than me, I suggest you re-read your question to  your first post since my question to you
is not what you have replied to here,
As you have brought up a reference to RF earthing perhaps you can explain the difference so others can understand your reference to others.
and please keep any reply civil,

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 26, 2018, 05:25:58 AM

Once again, I need to re-emphasize that the RF ground does NOT need any connection with the earth connection of the energy source. I have never said anything about RF earthing or whatever.  (Edit: RF ground is the same as RF ground stub.)


Zenneck wave is a well known science. Unlike the dark age, when the trolls have brainwashed the society with their negative information, a lot of scientists have nowadays published their experimental findings that are not quite consistent with the laws of relativity.  Before misleading the world with your minority opinion, please read the literature in the IEEE digital library for more background understanding first.


https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/searchresult.jsp?newsearch=true&queryText=zenneck%20wave (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/search/searchresult.jsp?newsearch=true&queryText=zenneck%20wave)


The reason why you keep arguing with me is because you have NOT read anything about surface waves, Tesla's wireless power transfer or Marconi's first breakthrough experiments done in Italy. There is a lot of important information in this surface wave. 


You might have read a lot about scalar waves from some internet sites. But if you have little or no appreciation about the implication of the Poynting vector being zero along the transmission pathway, there is no point to further any discussion.





Thanks for your 'stupid' comment which says more about you than me, I suggest you re-read your question to  your first post since my question to you
is not what you have replied to here,
As you have brought up a reference to RF earthing perhaps you can explain the difference so others can understand your reference to others.
and please keep any reply civil,

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 26, 2018, 01:26:46 PM
BP your bedside manner is atrocious and rude and your hyperlink points to a commercial/corporate charging information center.and does nothing to help people on this DIY thread.

The thing is Wesleys Film covers a lot of ground in his coverage, the first part is obviously about a different concept ' surface waves.
I was asking you about the Don Smith, Dally, Ruslan device. Since your 'Handle' leads one to assume your a 'Save the planet', 'Guru'
Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

What a wonderful helpful being to society you really are!

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 26, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
   Stivep:   Ok, you sound tired. I'm just a little hung over, and maybe we are also tired of hearing about all those things that we can't understand. Like Zenneck waves, and such. But, only you can understand, yet produce nothing to show for it as any type of proof.
   Ok, I will forget about the light bulb, and it's output, and focus on the source of the energy instead.
   Perhaps you'd like to show some measurements, some scope shots, explaining the output power, even without the bulb.   
   I will look over your re-posted link.  As I am more interested in being accurate, than in being nice. And to provide proof for my ideas.
   It's much easier for you Wesley if you provide some proof, then you won't have to worry about being nice, or not. Otherwise this thread is going in the direction of the original TK thread. 1500 pages, and not a single working replication. Just speculation, and talk.   
   How about if you show how and explain why the dielectric is charged, as your video with Andrea has no sound and the text is unreadable. And your video with the light bulb, is not clearly explained. At least, not to me. Or do you want us to have to guess about what is happening.
To Nickz,
I think you are being extremely inconsiderate knowing that Wesley is on Vacation at the current moment.You seems to be  arguing with him as if he is a customer support service and act like he own you something valuable.Please stop trying to ruin his vacation with his wife.Please again.

Can't you just wait for him to return back from Vacation then continue your whatever argument with him say next year.
I hope you understand.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 26, 2018, 03:27:55 PM
Dear magpwr
I'm taking a minute as  my wife after Hanukah and my video  making work, expects some  attention.
Please  look at application of polyphase  and effects of this application by carefully reading   US 2018/0183128 A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180183128A1/en)
look for word polyphase e g  [0028]
I'm sure it helps a lot.
 
..also some  about surface wave as "I think many of you simply do  not  understand  it  yet.

Wesley
hi stivep,
I manage to skim through the entire document in one pass.
No questions but amazed by the way Zenneck is done.
Basic findings-
1)The reason why 1.85Mhz was selected is merely to strike a balance between distance and energy density.
2)10Mhz can be used but distance will be shorter.
3)Earth besides sea and etc is considered a "lossy conducting medium".

The above experiment can be recreated especially on the transmitter side.
---------------------------------------
Interesting article but i think it is nothing to do with current amplification(for kapanadze device) to and from Earth which require using interrupted/Gated pulse to emulate a longitudinal waveform.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 26, 2018, 05:13:48 PM
This is just a concept of keeping the wave standing by two Tesla coils which regulate themselves. If there were such variants, I did not know about them.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 26, 2018, 07:01:16 PM
how many free energy experiment a man have to do before he finds the real DEAL.
THE ANSWER MY FRIEND IS BLOWING IN THE WIND THE ANSWER IS BLOWING IN THE WIND..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGX_rESRYIU
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 26, 2018, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: SolarLab on December 24, 2018, 08:07:02 PM
"His invented devices do work (many have sucessfully tested certain versions), use conventional theories, and can be
readily analyzed using advanced electromagnetic computer aided engineering tools. If you have followed Andrey at all,
you also know he has a variety of differing designs, including some self running types."

Hi Solarlab. Who has successfully tested certain versions of Melnichenko's devices?
Where has Melnichenko demonstrated a self-running device?
All the best...
--------------------

Hi Solarlab. I did not see a reply to my questons above. Can you please reply?
Thanks.


Regarding lighting LED lights with the EM field around a HV tesla coil or similar:
LED's don't require much power at all to light up brightly. Same with small neon bulbs.
Especially so for LEDs.
Agreed. Wesley's LED lighting demo was more akin to a magicians trick than a meanigful demonstration of something scientifically significant.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 26, 2018, 09:24:10 PM
Agreed. Wesley's LED lighting demo was more akin to a magicians trick than a meanigful demonstration of something scientifically significant.

Hi Hoppy. I wasn't singling anyone out, but just referring in general to videos such as the following
where it seems to be implied that lighting some LED lights that way at relatively low power is indicating
some amazing mysterious phenomenon:

Naser Technology - NASER - Quantum Nanometer Range Generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NimRFxeEm2U

Igor Moroz - TROSes - "oscillators" 3; radiant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGX_rESRYIU

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 26, 2018, 10:41:16 PM
 F.Y.I. 

WO2017209652A2  Inventor Андрей Анатольевич МЕЛЬНИЧЕНКО Original Assignee Андрей
Анатольевич МЕЛЬНИЧЕНКО Priority date 2016-06-01   

Method and device (variants) for generating electrical energy by partially separating the magnetic field of a
ferromagnetic substance from a magnetization coil 

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017209652A2/en?assignee=Melnichenko+Andrei&scholar&oq=assignee:(Melnichenko+Andrei) (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2017209652A2/en?assignee=Melnichenko+Andrei&scholar&oq=assignee:(Melnichenko+Andrei))   

 
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2018, 01:41:21 AM
To better understand it just think about two stones striking one against another.
You create electromagnetic wave that in did about  many different wavelengths gives out X-ray nm wave. (Ionizing Radiation)
However Andrey  device does not produce majority of such wavelength. That is easy to spot in few moments of his video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfur0642_Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXfur0642_Y)

in https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2403 (https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2403)
Staruhin   ask question:  how far that field extends? and Andrey  immediately moved far  away from answering that  question!!
in https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2491 (https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2491) Andrey is facing question :how far  the radius of the field extends
Andrey answer is: " unlimited, it can travel in waveguide.. It depends form   power of generator."..
And  he cuts short  Mr. Staruhin.
 
 If we were   to deal with nm waves X-rays and up than starting from  very low microwaves  the propagation  in near field and far field is by means of line of sight
(a straight line along which an observer has unobstructed vision.)
We did not have any obstructions so we should see even distribution of EW ( electromagnetic wave)  to the end or "radio horizon"
however we see problem here :
https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2679 (https://youtu.be/XXfur0642_Y?t=2679)
please  watch this sequence for another 20 seconds.
You see clearly  lack of linear distribution in near field according to inverse  square law.  So Andrey  knew that he has  two points of response  where he  has got, two  maximum of  amplitude.
draw the the sinusoidal waveform from an antenna to the window and fallow  the places in that   video where Andrey shows  light in lightbulb. and  place maximum  of amplitude in near the window.
If wavelength is 2m than  divided by 4 = 50cm. The distance between two  highest amplitudes is about 1m. Take 1 period and you come  with approximately   144MHz.
.his  quantum theory  Louis Victor Pierre Raymond de Broglie  and  Cerenkov theory  simply does not work  with  explanation of the device.
That is why Andrey did not get patent ,( his application was  filed  in 2012.)
 dominating frequency in his "Quantum"  NASER generator is  around 144 MHz.
  Here is my paper  showing 90 degrees from my old video :
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=636 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=636) look at left lower picture drawing showing  90 deg.
The polyphase could be created by means  of Andrey  that  is - of Kapanadze  or by concept  of Corum brothers.
Here is the link :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
Here is the link :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2018, 03:07:15 AM
   Stivep:   Thanks for your reply.
   Why are you not showing the part that is actually driving the two spheres (or whatever you're using), and their driver circuit?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en)


( the lower sphere was my dielectric and it was not connected to the wire.
all I have had was physical placement of dielectric" sphere" in space
between  earth and ground to see if it will charge.
That is also the easy way to determine position of that "sphere" vs frequency  where  generator  and impedance matching circuit is  connected to upper  sphere and the ground.
The polyphase can be  created  by two generators I have  7 of them in total.
The frequency of operation  from 24kHz to 470 kHz.
but I can  go lower by downconverter http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/Upconverter-vs-Downconverter.html (http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/Upconverter-vs-Downconverter.html)
The means of shortening sphere diameters  in regards to free space is explained in red color link from my post above.
The Corum brothers talk only about 1.25Mhz as the lowest.
Yes I'm at  47kHz so I can match some lower harmonic of Schumann.

Akula  Kapanadze and so on.
Clockwise counterclockwise and bifilar. there are  means of making "sphere" smaller. Read  the red link
the closest to Schumann  fundamental the better. But not me nor Corum Brothers  we do not know how to  go there.
I'm probably much closer than Corum brothers are.
If you go there than you have virtually  no losses around entire earth.

So for you  to understand me better I do not know how to go to ~7.8 Hz  but I do not need to...
You do not have to be ideal..
To get what you want to get from it.





Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 27, 2018, 06:05:03 AM
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

I don't think that it has been convincingly demonstrated by anyone in the several posted videos here where LED lights are being
lit up due to a strong HV EM field, that some unusual wave type or form of energy is being generated in those demonstrations.
Not saying it is necessarily not the case. I am saying I don't think it has been convincingly shown so far, IMO.
If someone thinks there is good reason to think that an unusual type of wave is being generated in those demonstrations,
then I would suggest that they consider taking a step back and try to think of ways to conduct tests that show that those
special waves or unusual form of energy they think they are generating really does have unusual properties that
differ from 'normal'  EM fields and transverse EM waves. Think of ways that those unusual properties can be tested and
demonstrated in a test setup, would be my suggestion.

It is known that sparkgaps and corona discharge in general will generate high frequency radiation in the range of UV thru X-rays
and even higher in the range of gamma radiation, but the X-Rays and other radiation such as gamma radiation are typically
not at a high enough level to be dangerous unless the corona discharge itself is really high energy. If you think a setup similar
to what Wesley has described is producing very high frequency radiation of some kind, you could possibly employ a
spectrum analyzer that goes well into the GHz range and/or a radiation detector to detect alpha/beta/gamma radiation levels.
A really good high frequency range spectrum analyzer is probably quite expensive however. :)

I have already commented previously that I have seen some potentially promising results in the past in
some of my tests regarding combining two waveforms at different phase angles to each other (such as at 90 degrees).
In one of my test setups I was able to see the same sort of unusual extra 90 degree phase shift occur
in the output waveform when the two input waves were combined that Ruslan had demonstrated in one of his early demonstrations.
What I found is that there is one extra 'feature' I needed to employ to see that effect at the output. I have not heard anyone
mention that extra 'requirement' so far in terms of how to apply it to this particular type of arrangement. I have been hesitant to mention that openly
so far because there is often so much mudslinging and BS flying here, and also times in the past when I have pointed out some other experimental observations
I thought were interesting here it is either completely ignored or one or more people make some braying donkey comments in response.  ;D
I can fully understand why people hold back on sharing some stuff like that when so many are just here to troll and bray. Ha ha.   ;)

My testing so far (in the last couple of years) was done at too low a power level to be able to draw any definite
conclusions at all about whether what I was seeing could produce anything along the lines of OU, but it seems
to at least hold some possible potential. Because of those tests I have done, what Wesley has detailed about
combining two waveforms at ninety degrees seems to me to very possibly hold some real potential, since I have
seen some interesting things as well when experimenting along the same lines. I think Wesley may very possibly be
on the right track in regards to that, but the surface wave stuff and requirement for a special dielectric
arrangement I am not convinced about yet. :) I am currently working on a unrelated concept I have of my own
design, not related to this stuff, which so far is not producing even near OU, but it should be increasing efficiency at
least compared to a more conventional approach, but still need to do a lot of testing and think of ways to try to improve
the setup to have any chance at OU. No one ever said this kind of research should be easy going. Ha ha. Stick with it guys.
I think you may be closing in more on Mr. Kapanadze. Just maybe need to put the pieces together now in the right way. So easy, right? Ha ha.  ;D
Maybe your lucky day is coming soon...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 10:01:16 AM
Schumann Resonance Today
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 11:18:26 AM
Frequency
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on December 27, 2018, 11:34:36 AM

IEEE is not a corporate body.  If you have difficulty in downloading those papers you can seek help from the corresponding authors. Or just use the DOI number of the paper to retrieve the original copy in the internet archives.


My partner from Ukraine and I are among those who have contributed to IEEE but I am not an expert or savior. The reason why I have to be here is because the reputation of this alternative energy is getting too low. Nowadays everyone can claim to be an expert in the field of free energy.   Even the copy cats having no contribution to the body of the knowledge can be in charge of this field. All the functional OU machines are now being labelled as scams. Whenever a real researcher comes up with a really functional devices, these greedy trolls become so agitated to an extent that they need to kill the researchers.


Take no offence. If I were given an mission to save this planet (which I admit I am not qualified to), my first priority would be to save those honest contributors to the body of knowledge who are starving to death. I would not be interested in giving a treat to the greedy trolls who have chosen to destroy humanity.



BP your bedside manner is atrocious and rude and your hyperlink points to a commercial/corporate charging information center.and does nothing to help people on this DIY thread.

The thing is Wesleys Film covers a lot of ground in his coverage, the first part is obviously about a different concept ' surface waves.
I was asking you about the Don Smith, Dally, Ruslan device. Since your 'Handle' leads one to assume your a 'Save the planet', 'Guru'
Perhaps I should have made that clearer.

What a wonderful helpful being to society you really are!

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 27, 2018, 12:27:29 PM
Frequency

Hmm those values are so close to powers of 2 (2,4,8,16,32,64 etc) that I wonder if the startup freq is inaccurate? When all the freqs match powers of 2 then you got the starting freq right
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 27, 2018, 01:08:36 PM
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

I don't think that it has been convincingly demonstrated by anyone in the several posted videos here where LED lights are being
lit up due to a strong HV EM field, that some unusual wave type or form of energy is being generated in those demonstrations.
Not saying it is necessarily not the case. I am saying I don't think it has been convincingly shown so far, IMO.
If someone thinks there is good reason to think that an unusual type of wave is being generated in those demonstrations,
then I would suggest that they consider taking a step back and try to think of ways to conduct tests that show that those
special waves or unusual form of energy they think they are generating really does have unusual properties that
differ from 'normal'  EM fields and transverse EM waves. Think of ways that those unusual properties can be tested and
demonstrated in a test setup, would be my suggestion.

It is known that sparkgaps and corona discharge in general will generate high frequency radiation in the range of UV thru X-rays
and even higher in the range of gamma radiation, but the X-Rays and other radiation such as gamma radiation are typically
not at a high enough level to be dangerous unless the corona discharge itself is really high energy. If you think a setup similar
to what Wesley has described is producing very high frequency radiation of some kind, you could possibly employ a
spectrum analyzer that goes well into the GHz range and/or a radiation detector to detect alpha/beta/gamma radiation levels.
A really good high frequency range spectrum analyzer is probably quite expensive however. :)

I have already commented previously that I have seen some potentially promising results in the past in
some of my tests regarding combining two waveforms at different phase angles to each other (such as at 90 degrees).
In one of my test setups I was able to see the same sort of unusual extra 90 degree phase shift occur
in the output waveform when the two input waves were combined that Ruslan had demonstrated in one of his early demonstrations.
What I found is that there is one extra 'feature' I needed to employ to see that effect at the output. I have not heard anyone
mention that extra 'requirement' so far in terms of how to apply it to this particular type of arrangement. I have been hesitant to mention that openly
so far because there is often so much mudslinging and BS flying here, and also times in the past when I have pointed out some other experimental observations
I thought were interesting here it is either completely ignored or one or more people make some braying donkey comments in response.  ;D
I can fully understand why people hold back on sharing some stuff like that when so many are just here to troll and bray. Ha ha.   ;)

My testing so far (in the last couple of years) was done at too low a power level to be able to draw any definite
conclusions at all about whether what I was seeing could produce anything along the lines of OU, but it seems
to at least hold some possible potential. Because of those tests I have done, what Wesley has detailed about
combining two waveforms at ninety degrees seems to me to very possibly hold some real potential, since I have
seen some interesting things as well when experimenting along the same lines. I think Wesley may very possibly be
on the right track in regards to that, but the surface wave stuff and requirement for a special dielectric
arrangement I am not convinced about yet. :) I am currently working on a unrelated concept I have of my own
design, not related to this stuff, which so far is not producing even near OU, but it should be increasing efficiency at
least compared to a more conventional approach, but still need to do a lot of testing and think of ways to try to improve
the setup to have any chance at OU. No one ever said this kind of research should be easy going. Ha ha. Stick with it guys.
I think you may be closing in more on Mr. Kapanadze. Just maybe need to put the pieces together now in the right way. So easy, right? Ha ha.  ;D
Maybe your lucky day is coming soon...

I think in any research there is always room for criticism, when it is based on some grounds. If people criticize just because this goes against their belief, then it is just BS. I feel that people get also offended way to easily, when they hear any criticism. I think we are at a point where any new invention comes from either intuition or pure luck. We have made up all these "laws of the universe" and we don't even understand magnetism yet. I think everybody should go to the roots when this phenomena was found and start from the ground up. They need to understand what is actually happening and not learn electromagnetism from a book that says something like "PM cannot do work"

Here is my logic again:

1. If there is free energy, there is active suppression in place
     - it has already been found before and energy industry needs it go stay hidden

2. If this suppression has vast resources, then all school books, science and schools are tainted
    - Energy industry will use their resources to keep it hidden. Best way is to teach something that checks out (math), but has little or nothing to do with reality. Some things you lie about and some things
       you just don't tell. You make it a religion and you call others crazy.

3. If we were put on this planet and we need energy, the universe will provide it for us without us destroying this planet. Radiation (ambient energy) from space, Sun being the largest contributor, seems to be the way to go. It supplies almost all energy we got here in different forms.
    - Looking at the devices we already have, it seems to me that we already know how to disturb the ambient and collect energy. It is just hidden behind jargon and we do not realize it

4. Energy can't be destroyed or created. Seems to me like it was all created in the Big Bang, so it is everywhere. Sometimes in matter and sometimes heat&light, but always in a vibration. When last of those vibrations diminishes, this universe collapses to a singularity. We do stupid things to the energy like dissipate backEMF with a diode over the coil. People really need to think what they are doing. They are repeating stuff they were taught in school without realizing, what they are actually doing.
    - L2 in a transformer already collects energy from the universe. You are told it comes from L1 and you can't ever get 100% conversion. Well the only reason is that there is a return cable in L1. You owe
      that energy immediately and since ideal components or wires are hard to come by, you always get less tan 100%
    - same thing with caps. Displacement current is energy from the ambient. You create imbalance between the plates and the universe tries to compensate. What every you gain, you put back into the negative terminal

@Void: many people here do not want to understand for various reasons. Somebody just wants the device and schematics. I can understand if this feels a bit rude towards the inventor. Some people are just trolls. They say nonononono and then some BS or try to get an argument started. some people are after money and they won't give you the actual secret. They might give you a schematic that is missing the principal bit and they hope you fix the problem he could not. Then he applies for a patent and tries to get rich, but he gets killed. If somebody thinks that people would not murder anybody because of free energy, please fill your pockets with rocks and walk into a lake. Save everybody some time

What I really want is a forum that behaves like Aristotle said "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." but it seems those are hard to come by. That would be a forum where intuition ignites the intuition of others. Ideas would be proved on a bench and not by saying "everybody knows, that you cannot go faster than light"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2018, 01:57:02 PM
Quote
Here is the link :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
 


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 27, 2018, 03:59:05 PM
It is customary in science when someone is submitting a scientific paper for peer review that readers
will respond back with frank and sometimes harsh criticisms. Sometimes the criticisms are
valid and sometimes the criticisms are not valid at all, but if that which is being submitted for review
has real merit it should be able to stand up to close examination. No one ever gets to the truth by
pussyfooting around it. I don't think harsh criticisms are really ever necessary however, but being frank
I think is necessary if a person really is interested in getting to the truth, so I try to be frank when
giving people feedback.  :)

On the subject of being frank and honest, I would like to know how electrically efficient are the demonstrations in Wesley's 'bombshell" video?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 04:11:12 PM
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?


For example:

1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?

Are we looking for something that is not there?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 27, 2018, 04:24:52 PM
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?

Yes - that opinions on the modus operandi of his devices are 100% surmise.  :(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 04:56:26 PM
Yes - that opinions on the modus operandi of his devices are 100% surmise.  :(

Maybe something is known?

In my opinion HV is resonated for the generation of electrostatic field which is added to the sinusoidal wave of the second winding.  This is probably the closest answer from what I know.
The secret is how to get connected and by what ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 27, 2018, 05:07:58 PM
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?


For example:

1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?

Are we looking for something that is not there?
Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an EMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 05:15:21 PM
Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an IMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

AG

IMP impulse or rather EMP ? Such a pulse is an electromagnetic wave of high energy and frequency.  If we add the direction to it, we have the beam focused like a laser.

--
Even the basic information is not behind what can be seen in the films.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 27, 2018, 05:26:11 PM
Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?
For example:
1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?
Are we looking for something that is not there?

Hi r2fpl. I looked at Kapanadze's 2004 demo video closely when I was trying to ascertain
what the essential components of his device might be, as that appears to be the most stripped
down and basic version of his device. His later devices became more complicated looking and
most probably have decoys on them.
Tariel Kapanadze 2004 04 28 5KW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3neKg5KMc

You see an input transformer connecting to the 50 Hz AC output of the blue inverter box, with rectifier
diodes and a filter cap I believe at the output of that transformer. 
Then it appears to be two transistors on heat sinks with the wires going into the tobacco can.
You have a spark gap firing at what appears to be fairly low current and I guess firing at probably 1 kHz at least,
from the appearance of it. So, maybe the two transistors are used as a flyback driver to drive the
sparkgap seen on that device at maybe 15 kHz to 25 kHz. You then have Kapanadze's coil assembly and an earth ground connection.

I think it is unknown what all is in the the tobacco can, but there isn't much room in there for a lot of components.
I think Kapanadze doesn't likely have another generator circuit in the can, as he probably would have
mounted the heatsinks for a second generator outside the tobacco can as well for good air flow. Maybe I am
forgetting some other component there, but I think that was about all that was visible in that 2004 setup.

So, the possible difference I see there from Daly/Akula/Ruslan is Kapanadze only seems to have
one generator circuit there in that 2004 demo. It looks like possibly a very simple two transistor
astable multivibrator type flyback transformer driver arrangement. So, other than the 50Hz AC
(probably rough) sinewave coming from the blue inverter box output, it looks like to me there is only the
one other generator circuit. I don't think he has two generator circuits there, but maybe another
generator circuit is hiding in the tobacco can.

So, if it is only a flyback driver to create HV to drive the sparkgap and then the incoming 50 Hz AC from the inverter,
then it seems not likely Kapanadze is combining two waveforms from two separate generators at 90 degrees or whatever,
as the control circuitry to do that doesn't appear to be there.
So whatever Kapanadze is doing in that very basic 2004 circuit arrangement, it appears to be
a very simple arrangement. Yet the power output was supposed to be roughly in the vicintiy of 5 kW.
This is probably why many people assume it is fake, as the 2004 setup appears to be very very simple.
So, then, if it doesn't have two separate generator circuits, then what is Kapanadze doing?

In the later green box video demo, I believe someone takes out a frequency meter and they measure
very close to 50 Hz at the output of his device. So, only a sparkgap combined with the
50 Hz waveform from the blue inverter box? The other possibility is the (apparent) astable multivibrator
circuit is used to create a squarewave and there is another small HV flyback driver circuit in the
tobacco can, with the heatsink for that inside the tobacco can, but that seems less likely to me.
There is not a whole lot of room in that tobacco can.

Looking at Kapanadze's 2004 setup is probably the best one to focus on I think, as it appears
to be the most open and most basic arrangement. If there is not two separate generator circuits,
then maybe Kapanadze is doing something even more simple than many people think, assuming it is not
a complete fake of course. :)


Nick:
Wesley has not replicated Kapanadze's device or for sure he would have demoed something showing OU. :)

Wesley: I honestly think you are trying to mix apples and oranges by trying to shoehorn this surface
wave and dielectric stuff into what Kapanadze is doing. Take a close look at Kapanadze's 2004 demo video
in which I have provided a link above. How do you tie that simple arrangement to surface waves and dielectrics
and Schumann resonance? I am not seeing it if it is there.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2018, 05:43:00 PM
.one of components of polyphase must interact with boundary of Schumann waveguide.
For that you need surface wave.
The same surface used by surface wave.
is  shared by Schumann waveguide.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 05:50:56 PM
Void: Thank you for explaining although I already know it all. When I was asking, I wanted to know more. These trivial questions would give a lot of answers but I see that nothing is known.

Kapanadze's installation in 2004 is possible because he had already done other with "engine". There was also a film from German television.

I think Kapanadze's secret is a breaker. It is not a transistor. It is a mechanical device like an ordinary motor with blades. More a relay. Why? The answer is simple, right!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 27, 2018, 05:54:22 PM
Hello Wesley my friend ...and I will say it again as well. :)
We can't ignore Kapanadze's 2004 very simple demo setup just because it doesn't fit in with someone's current pet theory.
Kapanadze appears to likely only have one generator circuit in that setup, and if that is right it is therefore probably
driving the sparkgap. The only other waveform there in that case would be the output from the blue inverter box.
Whatever Kapanadze is doing there appears to be very simple. Wesley if you can explain how what you are
saying ties in with what we see in Kapanadze's 2004 demo, I am listening. It appears though that you instead just
sidestepped this question because you can't explain how Kapanadze's simple setup in 2004 ties in with your latest theories. Yes? No? 
Maybe someone gave you some info on Kapanadze's device that you take as credible, but it has to fit with what
we see in the 2004 demo video, no? Can you offer any explanation of how your theories tie in with Kapnadze's 2004
very simple demo setup? That is a sincere question.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 27, 2018, 06:00:19 PM
Void: Thank you for explaining although I already know it all. When I was asking, I wanted to know more. These trivial questions would give a lot of answers but I see that nothing is known.
Kapanadze's installation in 2004 is possible because he had already done other with "engine". There was also a film from German television.
I think Kapanadze's secret is a breaker. It is not a transistor. It is a mechanical device like an ordinary motor with blades. More a relay. Why? The answer is simple, right!

Hi r2fpl. I was just reviewing what is shown there to emphasize how very simple and basic his setup was
in that 2004 demo. Some people seem to overlook that and seem to be looking for something a lot
more complicated, IMO. If Kapanadze's devices are not fake, then what he is doing appears to
use some quite simple technique. Just a very simple combining of a 50 Hz sinewave and HV impulses
into a special coil arrangement connected to an earth ground? Could it really be that simple?
To me, that's what it appears he might be doing in the 2004 demo video anyway. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2018, 07:20:31 PM
Phase shift can be created by use of capacitor or .pricking cable to see if you are at 90
And that is kapanadze . insulation of the electrical wire or HV  wireis of the same value.

 one generator is ok.
Andrey Pastukhov even used 50/60Hz and created 90
I agree that antenna must have vertical polarization and it's image needs to be mirror reflected by earth
If you look at Fig 21 it uses flat copper plate with half circles
And is exactly the same as Fig 23 but this one is made from wires and half circles

 at kapanadze we see strange coil
That uses polyphase  and is not important if it has 2 or more components
Or if it uses 60Hz and than creates 90
it can create surface wave and by that couple it's-own polyphase component
With Boundary (The earth!! ) of. Schumann waveguide.
origin of energy!
Whatever exist in waveguide  it must impact boundary of it!
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2018, 08:41:08 PM
Hi Wesley. Thanks for the reply. I will think it over and see if I can piece it all together. :)

P.S. Wesley, when you saw Kapanadze's demo in person, were you able to tell if his coil
assembly was an air core coil or not?

Kapanadze claimed that there is nothing inside the coil but that does not have to be true if the pipe was made of iron or Cu :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 27, 2018, 11:11:10 PM
Hello Wesley my friend ...and I will say it again as well. :)
We can't ignore Kapanadze's 2004 very simple demo setup just because it doesn't fit in with someone's current pet theory.
Kapanadze appears to likely only have one generator circuit in that setup, and if that is right it is therefore probably
driving the sparkgap. The only other waveform there in that case would be the output from the blue inverter box.
Whatever Kapanadze is doing there appears to be very simple. Wesley if you can explain how what you are
saying ties in with what we see in Kapanadze's 2004 demo, I am listening. It appears though that you instead just
sidestepped this question because you can't explain how Kapanadze's simple setup in 2004 ties in with your latest theories. Yes? No? 
Maybe someone gave you some info on Kapanadze's device that you take as credible, but it has to fit with what
we see in the 2004 demo video, no? Can you offer any explanation of how your theories tie in with Kapnadze's 2004
very simple demo setup? That is a sincere question.

I think we need to go further. I think there is a better quality than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY

but the old German document had Tariel showing his generator&motor, but what caught my eye was that he powered it with simple electronics on the front side of the glass box. I think he learned from this and was hiding this in later videos
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 01:30:02 AM
Hi Wesley. Thanks for the reply. I will think it over and see if I can piece it all together. :)

P.S. Wesley, when you saw Kapanadze's demo in person, were you able to tell if his coil
assembly was an air core coil or not?
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg528913/#msg528913 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg528913/#msg528913)
when I was trying to film inside the coil Tariel helper distracted me, doing  everything possible for me to do not look at it.
And he was successful.  He was scared bit I analyzed it only after the show.
So I did not see inside of the coil.
In comparison to 2004 video  I do not have clear explanation.
I  can fantasize more or less:
The motor with two disk is   very much known structure and it is nothing new. it requires significant current.
Spark gap has significant impact on phase relation of all elements of plasma.
Two discs and rotation  could be related to the structure https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
where clearly Mr Corum says about  rotational access that is virtual.( around infinite torus)
But it is to much of assumption to make any sense of it 
The regular electrical motors in  Kapanadze device never  had any load on it.
I assumed  it to be just components  of phase shift generating system.
From energy stand point 
I was testing two ground structure in South America and it could be that Telluric current is impacted with  Schumann  waveguide and surface wave interaction by means of polyphase.

( surface wave  interaction with  Schumann waveguide boundary) gives us  some sense of energy origin in Tariel device.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 02:11:54 AM
I have an idea.
Make copy  of Andrey device.
the coil 5 and coil 7 ( from my video are grounded.)
# 6 transmission line   can be anything. HV cable or coax or  spark  gap just like  Kapanadze  glass table in Turkey.
 build Corum receiver.from his patent.( just piece  of wire.)

Make it  at the distance of  few meters in such a way that there is no chance for "air" "EM involvement from that Tx  on  the receiver. Rx.
Connect anything , any indicator to  Rx and play with Tx.( that is Andrey Tx)
You do not need  anything that has higher number than #7 ( look  at my video)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
You can also try to have  only 3 and 4 with phase shift squeezing 5
I showed  it in two versions ( one of it is NMR)
forget  about coil #7
just ground #6 and place cap on the top  of #6
You can also try to make #7 winded on Teflon.( the dielectric)
or instead of cap use  nice large piece of polymer .


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 03:40:25 AM
From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
Wesley


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 03:46:59 AM
From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
chapter 2 part2
(Text is slightly edited. I just pointed at intention of  our friend for you to  make it even better)

Wesley

The published material    starts from  chapter 3
the next post is chapter 2
and the last one is chapter 1
so it was published   upside down
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 03:50:15 AM
From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
chapter 2 part 3

Wesley

The published material    starts from  chapter 3
the next post is chapter 2
and the last one is chapter 1
so it was published   upside down
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 05:41:20 AM
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 28, 2018, 06:42:13 AM
 F.Y.I.

A Repost...
Ruslan/Kapanadze Generator - Fundamental Therory of Operation - Overview: 

1. The basic device (Ruslan, Kapanadze, et al.) is a "Current Amplifier." Consisting of a 240VAC 50Hz
or 60Hz Oscillator [LF Osc] with a low current output.

2. To boost the current capability a second pulse oscillator of much higher frequency (narrow pulses)
[HF Pulse Osc] is gated and drives a High Voltage generator (Tesla Transformer or other similar device).

3. These High Voltage Pulses (coulombs) are used to increase electron movement (Joules) in the
coil/wire - that is, to increase the "Current Flow"; a.k.a. electron speed; thus increasing the current
capability of the system - as such, it facilitates Current Amplification. 

There are electrons already in the wire/coil but they have to be moved along more rapidly, or pumped
with a higher potential difference, in this case a series of precisely timed high voltage pulses, to increase
the systems current output capability. The output voltage is not changed that much even before filtering. 

4. This "HV Pumping Action," so to speak, will increase electron flow in the coil wire once the polarities
and timing are synchronized properly. Sort of like increasing water pressure (V) to increase the flow
rate (I) to get more gpm (Wh). 

5. Of course you should mitigate the "HV pump spikes" - maybe a "Folded-Back Helical Coil Filter"
scheme might work. 

6. A portion of the devices generated excess energy is tapped to power the systems oscillators and generation
of the high voltage. Very efficient low loss design techniques and isolation are employed throughout combined
with judicial non-use of ferrites, yield a low feed-back power requirement and a high frequency of operation.
 
When considering Coulombs, Joules, poynting vector, potential and kinetic energies, it appears this is the way
this type of device functions; or at least this is one way of looking at their theory of operation.   

A Good Read:

Review the following link. Contains many very good points of discussion focused on how to create excess energy.
Some postulations are yet to be refined but by and large many are logical and viable. Think about the six points
above as you review. 

http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/current-and-voltage-amplification-key-to-energy-machines/ (http://www.aboveunity.com/thread/current-and-voltage-amplification-key-to-energy-machines/)   

Another Good Source:

This link highlights Andrei Melnichenko, he's been doing excess energy research for over 20 years and it appears he
is near to bringing products to the market. Of NOTE are the many design iterations he has investigated, as shown in
the pictures.
 
NOW consider that if he had had a modern CAE (e.g. COMSOL Multiphysics) capability at his disposal - many of the
various configurations and material properties would be entered as parameters into the simulations and the different
scenarios compared; and optimised - saving many hours and costs. We now have this capability.

http://www.hyiq.org/Reference/Profile?Name=Andrey%20Melnichenko (http://www.hyiq.org/Reference/Profile?Name=Andrey%20Melnichenko) 

One Approach to Developing Your Own Device:

Once you have the concept down as best you can; build a version, do your CAE analysis, component proof experiments
and build-up measurements, as needed; then expand your system-wide hypothesis. Now, convert what you have learned
into a mathematically based model (with the help of the open math CAE) with a rough theory. (see my previous posts for
CAE sources - Student - Free versions) 

Build up your theory and your device in logical, digestable steps; varifying as much as possible along the way. Trust your
thinking and your brain first; take the great wisdom of others with a great deal of skepticism. 
Then polish your theory, perfect your device, have some peers review it (it will be explainable to ones skilled in the art if
you have done your work correctly; if not, they will tell you), and then publish or patent, what ever is the best for you, and
everyone overall. 

Plus, publish in proper journals, blogs, interest group discussions, contests, etc.; don't waste your time, effort, and stress on
forums such as this - no one of sane mind reads them, nor could they even read them if they wanted to, and quite frankly the
forum participants are generally not of any real concequence (sad but true, and you all know it).   


BTW   The SAEC Forum analysis report is due tomorrow by COB. So behave if you can. 

FIN


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 07:04:02 AM
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY AND ONE
NEEDS TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM. REASON BEING
 ENERGY CAN NOT BE CREATED OR DESTROY, BUT CONVERTED.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 28, 2018, 10:00:41 AM
ENERGY CAN NOT BE CREATED OR DESTROY.
This is not quite true. No law in universe is linear, then universe will be dull place.
Zero device is tripling (creating more) current in C1, C2 and C3 with help of law of serial connection.So it is creating more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
BEFORE YOU GO.. JUST A FEW IDEAS CIRCUIT WISE.. WILL THIS CIRCUIT WORK.
WITH YOUR TRANSFORMER. THANKS
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 28, 2018, 10:58:40 AM
Seychelles!

The both devices are AC input.

Anything which can provide AC will work.
The Zero device is voltage hungry but output depends on number of capacitors in series, they are lowering output voltage.
So you have to find balance between input voltage and number of capacitors.
I used SG3525 with IR2110 so I can influence frequency and with frequency and duty cycle you control input.
Just make simple experiments and measure the output.
I really must go to my work now.

Share with each other everything you do.
You will crack everything very fast.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
http://tinyurl.com/ybfdv7lv

Does the simulator work properly?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 28, 2018, 01:25:35 PM
Guys i see you have started a nice party here.
Wesley
Thanks a lot for what you are doing. Very inspiring video of yours, but also thanks for being in the middle with V8Carlo, sharing with us his idea.

V8Carlo.
Really there are not any words to express my gratitude. I was strungling a lot to return some energy back to the source but it was never enough to overcome the input energy. I hope that your idea will be implemented soon by one of us for demonstration. I already have the gear to test it.

Is that possible to post again your pdfs? Looks like a bad link. Also, i don't understand why i can not copy the images. For some reason it is locked by administrator?!

Best regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 02:24:01 PM
i guess this might be the circuit required.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 02:29:15 PM
otherwise this one.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2018, 03:58:24 PM
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 28, 2018, 04:02:32 PM
   The red circle is showing an Earth ground connection.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2018, 04:04:13 PM
Do you remember this drawing?
Did Kapa draw it?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2018, 04:54:00 PM
There is no overunity the real gain comes from coupling to something that is willing to cooperate and share.
Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: color on December 28, 2018, 04:55:08 PM
https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmRVVYaonuv5d493TVoNfovVWNuZC26Pn3pwVrSfgUv1dz&channel=49137&fbclid=IwAR1b00zDiTRryPZf2ZhyuAJQEqqUo9Anl5YMeC56ag_cspvqDHhfupUrYPo
Does anybody have any idea about this generator?
Do not say that this generator is fake, but please explain it under the assumption that it is real.
--------------------

The second post.
I did not hear any answer.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 28, 2018, 05:00:43 PM
Aye, I agree. If you want any hope of seeing a COP > 1, your setup must be designed to draw in
excess energy from some external source, whether you can identify what that external source of energy is or not. :)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2018, 05:15:31 PM
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568176-apparatus-producing-electrical-currents-high-frequency-and

Try to imagine that this patent is 100% Kapanadze. Not possible? Certainly?
What do the two coils do? What is in the diagram? so why do I want to put two coils on one core! 
What do we read in the description of the Tesla patent.
Why does Kapanadze use HV? and what is HV there.
If it's just for deception, because all you need is two coils, a capacitor and a breaker. The rest are oscillations, maybe HV is oscillated.

Why reject it because it is too simple to be true?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
yeah just build the bloody thing and test the out come.
i am in seychelles and i have already ordered the parts
you people you can just go down the road and get all the
necessary parts.. just build it.. build it let bullshit talk later on.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 28, 2018, 05:31:02 PM
Hi Hoppy.
Kapanadze was showing what was said to be five 1kW light bulbs lighting quite brightly. I don't think you could
light them to any significant brightness that way.

Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 28, 2018, 05:41:29 PM
  There is no Kapa. Where did the diagram come from? The Kapagen device? It is also not a free energy device, but needs a input source. No kapagen replications have even been shown to self run, and is why no one is working with it anymore these days.
It's the Mr Previn  circuit I tried it but the wind has to be tuned to the frequency your using Re Old scientist experiment, with 50/60hz
you would need a lot of winds and one has to be out of phase with the other.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 28, 2018, 05:51:53 PM
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568176-apparatus-producing-electrical-currents-high-frequency-and

Try to imagine that this patent is 100% Kapanadze. Not possible? Certainly?
What do the two coils do? What is in the diagram? so why do I want to put two coils on one core! 
What do we read in the description of the Tesla patent.
Why does Kapanadze use HV? and what is HV there.
If it's just for deception, because all you need is two coils, a capacitor and a breaker. The rest are oscillations, maybe HV is oscillated.

Why reject it because it is too simple to be true?

Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 28, 2018, 06:01:09 PM
Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. I saw a comment from someone here a long time ago who was from that part of the world
who said he recognized that type of light bulb and confirmed that they are rated at 1kW.

I am not sure what you mean. ???  Anyone is free to build and test whatever they like. I explained clearly why I think
it won't work produce free energy, and, as I have also mentioned, I have confirmed this in my own testing as well
on similar types of arrangements. Anyone is free to test and draw their own conclusions, so I don't see any reason for
anyone getting their panties in a twist. ;)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2018, 06:10:32 PM
Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.

Hi Void,

See the simulation. However, it is very interesting.
Note that the current is the same and only the voltage increases in the capacitor.
It is very important to choose the frequency for resonance.
This is for a frequency of about 50Hz. The voltage increases rapidly.
If we change 50Hz to 1kHz and give HV 1-2kV with appropriate resonance we should get an immediate increase in the capacitor.
The difference in capacitor capacity will be at the level of pF. The capanadze tunes the copper coil through the wire inserted there. What does it do and how much it is in capacity!!!!!!!!! pF!!!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 28, 2018, 06:33:39 PM
I WOULD COME TO THE CONCLUSION WHEN A CIRCUIT IS AT RESONANCE
IT INVOKE SUPER CONDUCTIVITY AT ROOM TEMPERATURE,, THE QUESTION HOW
TO INVOKE MORE CURRENT FROM THE CIRCUIT..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 29, 2018, 08:30:58 AM
Guys i see you have started a nice party here.
Wesley
Thanks a lot for what you are doing. Very inspiring video of yours, but also thanks for being in the middle with V8Carlo, sharing with us his idea.

V8Carlo.
Really there are not any words to express my gratitude. I was struggling a lot to return some energy back to the source but it was never enough to overcome the input energy. I hope that your idea will be implemented soon by one of us for a demonstration. I already have the gear to test it.

Is that possible to post again your pdf? Looks like a bad link. Also, I don't understand why I cannot copy the images. For some reason, it is locked by administrator?!

Best regards
Jeg have you got MSpaint? then copy to paint or just save it to download folder, If copied to paint 'select all' then copy' then you have it
to stick where you like  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 29, 2018, 08:39:31 AM
Hoppy Imagin electricity ENERGY is like gold or currency! and a capacitor is the bank, well as long as everyone doesn't want their savings
back all at once banksters are free to use as they like, You can guess the rest.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: endlessoceans on December 29, 2018, 10:11:27 AM
Hi Void,

See the simulation. However, it is very interesting.
Note that the current is the same and only the voltage increases in the capacitor.
It is very important to choose the frequency for resonance.
This is for a frequency of about 50Hz. The voltage increases rapidly.
If we change 50Hz to 1kHz and give HV 1-2kV with appropriate resonance we should get an immediate increase in the capacitor.
The difference in capacitor capacity will be at the level of pF. The capanadze tunes the copper coil through the wire inserted there. What does it do and how much it is in capacity!!!!!!!!! pF!!!!

Standard resonant tank circuit stuff. 
Interesting to the uninitiated.   
V8karlo has not posted overunity info.   It all runs down. 
All the best with it!
The fact that he posts he is frightened for his life is delusional
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 29, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
Jeg have you got MSpaint? then copy to paint or just save it to download folder, If copied to paint 'select all' then copy' then you have it
to stick where you like  ;D ;D

Thanks mate! ;)

About the topic, i have also stoped beleiving in magic. I just haven't found any energy amplification to any of the projects i worked with! Looks like Steinmetz was right when talked about proportionality in change between all electrical values when it comes to electricity. So for me if there is something in to it then circuits like V8Carlos is the real deal. It doesn't give amplified energy, but a way to reuse again and again the same portion of energy that initially was used, compensating any losses by injecting energy from the battery itself during each cycle. A system of this kind normally would selfrun "for ever".
If this is the case then it is silly easy to confuse people making them to beleive that two oscillators is the real deal, or that the materials are essential for the operation, or that special geometric coil forms can produce OU! :o

About "closed" and "open" systems, IMO i don't believe that a "closed" system exists in electricity. Even a single cable shortcutting a battery creates a magnetic and dielectric field which interacts with the big earth/ionosphere dielectric.

I wish you all a happy new year. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 29, 2018, 11:06:54 AM
THERE IS NEVER SUCH THING AS A CLOSED ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
FIRST THEY CALL A PUMP A GENERATOR. WELL ENERGY CAN NOT
 BE GENERATED AND OR DESTROY. WHEN AN ELECTROMAGNET IS
CONNECTED TO DC POWER, THE MAGNETIC FORCE PUSH OUT
THE INVISIBLE FLUID AROUND IT IS CALL ETHER..ETHER IS WHERE
 THE REAL ENERGY IS. WHEN THE POWER IS SWITCHED OFF THEN
ETHER SPRINGS BACK TO IT,S ORIGINAL POSITION AND FORCING
THE SO CALL ELECTRON DOWN THE POWER LINE. BEMF EMF.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 29, 2018, 11:24:17 AM
 Hi Markus!
 
Thank you for your fifth mail. I don't have much time these days because of my job.
I will try to answer your question (not all of them).
 
I choose this one.
What is difference in a number of capacitors in Zero device?
 
There is non linearity there. It is not obvious. It is kind of hidden.
Let's say that the source current is 1A. With 3 caps in series they will produce 3 x 1A = 3A. With the help of Czero cap the voltage will raise to 525V. (input voltage is AC 220V, Europe)

So 525V / 3 caps = 175V on each cap (C1, C2, C3). So 175V is output voltage.
 
Now, if we add 1 cap more in series we will have 4 caps in series. They will produce 4A. And the voltage on each will be 525V / 4 = 131V on each cap. Difference in voltage is from 175V to 131V = 44V.
 
If you add 9 caps they will produce 9A and voltage on each cap will be 525V / 9 caps = 58V.
If you add 10 caps they will produce 10A and voltage on each cap will be 525V / 10 caps = 52V.
Difference of output voltage between 9 and 10 caps in series 58V – 52V = 6V.
 
Difference between 3 and 4 caps in series is 44V (on output).
Difference between 9 and 10 caps in series is 6V (on output).

See difference here (44V and 6V).That means that with each cap added you gain 1A and after number of caps the output voltage drops only for little. That means that you have to raise input voltage only for a little and you gain always 1A with every cap.
 
After a 20 caps in series you have to raise input voltage only for the fraction to raise output voltage on that caps but with every cap added you gaining always 1A. It is serial connection law.

What about after 60 or 200 caps? You have to raise input voltage only for 1V or less to gain 1A. There is no limit to this.
What about after 1000 caps? You wanna power your city?
 
These is easy to me because I played with that device for a while, but it is hard for someone who see it for the first time. I tried to explain this simple as much as I can. I hope I helped.
 
Please don't send me more mails. My mail is full. I can not read it all.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 29, 2018, 02:48:55 PM
  v8karlo:   Thanks for your contribution.  Even though your circuit may not produce any extra energy, it may allow the circuit connected up that way, to run longer. Of course, this would need to be tested by some of us here. So, it's good that you are here with us, to give us a helping hand with all this.   
   My father and his parents were also from Zagreb, from the old Yugoslavia. I was born in Venezuela, so I am a South American Croat. I highly believe in Tesla, and his ideas on free energy.  Unfortunately, the free energy ideas, and his inventions have been hidden from us, to a great degree.    Can you explain why you are so scared. Perhaps that can help us to understand your concerns. And also, why did you stop working on the device that you have shown, after so many years of working to achieve the results that you have obtained. Also, do you still have the device assembled and working, or not.  Sorry for all the questions.    Thanks again,                       
                        Nick Zec
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 29, 2018, 04:09:21 PM
v8karlo: I also asked earlier.
I think you might find the answer in this little video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFQVMJf5eI
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 29, 2018, 04:14:40 PM
I think you might find the answer in this little video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFQVMJf5eI

There is everything.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 29, 2018, 06:01:40 PM
well said wesley. i admire some one who is willing to share,
and if it jell with my reasoning then i will be there to provide
the very little i can..you can learn from a rock and a rock talk back
to you just ask a geologist. please for those who is reading this JUST
BUILD THE BLOODY THING AND UP AND ON WE SHALL ALL LEARN.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 29, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON FREE ENERGY RESEARCH EITHER,
 UNTIL DEATH DO ME PART AND OF COURSE I WILL NOT BE
RESTING IN PEACE EITHER..I HAVE ALREADY ORDERED THE
PARTS FROM ALIEXPRESS AND GOD WILLING I WILL PUT IT
 ALL TOGETHER..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 29, 2018, 06:24:32 PM
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP ON FREE ENERGY RESEARCH EITHER,
 UNTIL DEATH DO ME PART AND OF COURSE I WILL NOT BE
RESTING IN PEACE EITHER..I HAVE ALREADY ORDERED THE
PARTS FROM ALIEXPRESS AND GOD WILLING I WILL PUT IT
 ALL TOGETHER..
Hi which one are you building? nothing in the junk box you can sling to gether?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 30, 2018, 04:37:23 AM
alien gray i will build both..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 30, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
alien gray i will build both..
Well the Zero cap one is charging on a phase shift thing watch see if your electric meter detects it  ;D before you spend too much on it's parts
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 30, 2018, 11:02:36 AM
maybe I'm stupid, but could somebody explain the papers or the idea, what makes this remarkable?

Just read them once, but it seems the idea is that 3 caps in series triple the amperage. I do believe, that the free energy is hiding behind something simple, but this made even me think like "whaaat!?!"

Then it uses the grid and barely lights a bulb. So not trying to put the idea down, but if someone could explain the principle?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 30, 2018, 11:13:09 AM
IT could barely light a light but look at the source inline bulb light
not lit at all, the same 25 watts light..
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 30, 2018, 11:15:37 AM
capacitor is to current as coil inductor is to voltage.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 30, 2018, 11:45:59 AM
It looks like a current converter on the second circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 30, 2018, 11:46:09 AM
maybe I'm stupid, but could somebody explain the papers or the idea, what makes this remarkable?

Just read them once, but it seems the idea is that 3 caps in series triple the amperage. I do believe, that the free energy is hiding behind something simple, but this made even me think like "whaaat!?!"

Then it uses the grid and barely lights a bulb. So not trying to put the idea down, but if someone could explain the principle?

Nothing remarkable. The series connected caps are charging so fast on the first phase, that the input bulb filament cannot heat quickly enough to glow. On the second phase, the transistor is switched on and the caps discharge into the output bulb.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 30, 2018, 12:05:37 PM
It looks like a current converter on the second circuit.
Agreed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 12:44:29 PM
The both circuits Zero and Q are made to show the principle and how it can be done.

Zero is showing multiplication.
Q is showing how can you use electricity and return it to source at same time.
The both devices are using same principle based on law of serial connection to raise the voltage of circuits.

I made Zero visual so you can see difference with your eyes.

It purpose is to change mindset of the people.

Make your Zero circuit and measure it while working.
Measure voltage on C1, C2, C3 while it works.

Can you fake the heat at output?

It is very cheap project which everyone can do.It is a starting point.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 01:00:43 PM
Happy New Year to everyone in the world!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: vasik041 on December 30, 2018, 01:34:19 PM
It is the right observation. Power trough L2 is bigger then trough L1.Remove C3 and work with C1, C2 only. The L1 will light up but L2 will light up more. You will still see the difference in power.

You CAN NOT fake the heat if there is no real power!

Do your experiments and change your mindsets.
There is only one small issue here. Power on L1 is NOT power consumed from power source. Current is not power.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on December 30, 2018, 01:41:10 PM
There is only one small issue here. Power on L1 is NOT power consumed from power source. Current is not power.

Yes well L1 is still connected to the grid. With an AC grid it does not matter, which way you plug your device into it. It is push&pull and not from plus to minus. This means the voltage has to be there to light the L1 bulb AND the current in L2 seems to be bigger.

I think what you are saying is that maybe the same current goes trough L1, but there is very little voltage?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 30, 2018, 01:52:11 PM
V8Karlo,which savings or circuit work C.O. P.  should be ex(s)pected ?
At first a great work which gives partial explanation these methods related :
series connection
  https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2004100349A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2004100349A1/en)
Voltage step down transformer
  https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2016070292A4/un (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2016070292A4/un)

load controler
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en 

 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/enWow)                              !! WOW!!
 ! - effect " Example 1" saving results related
And about dotation/ donation let me see
Sincerely and good entrance in 2019 and success

OCWL
p.s.: in search for the cheapest " zero energy" infrared heat system 
https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2203529A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/GB2203529A/en)   + most efficient energy drive !?"ONLY" 15° C ambiental room temperature ?
In the 70' 13° C has been the average indoor ambiental temperature in the U.K. !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: vasik041 on December 30, 2018, 01:57:36 PM
Yes well L1 is still connected to the grid. With an AC grid it does not matter, which way you plug your device into it. It is push&pull and not from plus to minus. This means the voltage has to be there to light the L1 bulb AND the current in L2 seems to be bigger.

I think what you are saying is that maybe the same current goes trough L1, but there is very little voltage?
Power from source != power on lamp
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 01:57:47 PM
Yes: the message is: brush up on basic electrical principles to avoid getting mislead!


It uses simple existing principles. It does not violate any of the laws. It is made to be simple.

If I used 100 components in there, nobody will be able to understand. It is stripped to minimum so you can understand it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 02:00:15 PM
Build CZero. Start from there. You all have voltmeters.

For a start you don't need anything else.

At the end it is project which can be made in an hour?
Why talk to much?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 30, 2018, 02:06:55 PM
my advise is to use low esr electrolytic capacitors to increase
life expectancy and increase efficiency.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 02:23:29 PM
When powerline in second part of Zero circuit has more voltage in it it becomes source.
It is trying to move back to grid. It opposes grid. Grid is at lower voltage at that moment.
At that moment it is trying to feed the grid.


It becomes source.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 30, 2018, 02:34:32 PM
When powerline in second part of Zero circuit has more voltage in it it becomes source.
It is trying to move back to grid. It opposes grid. Grid is at lower voltage at that moment.
At that moment it is trying to feed the grid.


It becomes source.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=12&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19900104&CC=DE&NR=3821856A1&KC=A1#)
zero crossing : http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3821856&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 02:41:10 PM
You mention that this may be a relationship with Kapanadze. You can say what you have on your mind.

The Kapanadze device is lighting bulbs and that energy his device is returning to source at same time.
That is why he needs to add to source only a little to keep it going. It is obvious when you look his videos.
The Kapanadze himself said : The energy is not lost, it is been captured!

How do you capture energy which is already used?

I think, but this is only my thought that he using something like Q device principle!

It is my observation I made only on what I saw in his videos.
He had more than 20 years to perfect it, but in first videos he started lighting up only small bulb in his hands in that video.He didn't start with monster.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 03:17:05 PM
Well, I think you are a little closer to the truth by suggesting that his devices are connected to the grid.

If you are using 20A and returning 19A to source do you need grid?
You have to add to source only 1A to keep it going and rest 19A is for you.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 30, 2018, 03:23:15 PM
v8Karlo,who claims such work process efficiency ?

About pulsed dc devices and how these function/ oscillation generators parametrical works :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5942858A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990824&DB=&locale=#
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 30, 2018, 03:26:21 PM
If you are using 20A and returning 19A to source do you need grid?
You have to add to source only 1A to keep it going and rest 19A is for you.
I like that idea but why not return all of it and just start it on a 9V PP3 battery.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 30, 2018, 03:32:17 PM
I like that idea but why not return all of it

Because there are losses that have to be compensated. ;) Hi Hoppy
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 30, 2018, 03:34:15 PM
   I have been using the Dr. Stiffler type of "double diode loop" circuit. Which seams to do the same or similar thing that Karlo's device does. That device uses a series connected line of 4148 diodes (16 switching diodes), to increase the voltage, higher than just the oscillator and the L3 coil both running at 12MHz can do by themselves. Adding a capacitor to the output, back to the input may also help to raise the current. I'll try that.
   Geofusion and I had used a line of several capacitors on the induction circuits that we had built previously, which also helps to raise the voltages.   Perhaps there is something to all this.   Anyone built the monster up yet? My only question is how long a battery power model would run, without a "little help".

   And this also reminds me of the Barbosa tests, where the grid line positive rail is connected to a a bulb, and then to earth ground, instead of the grids ground. Caps are used there as well. But, I could only obtain up to a 25w bulb to light in this way. Which is about the same as Karlo's bulb output, if it's even that high.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 30, 2018, 03:37:36 PM
I like that idea but why not return all of it and just start it on a 9V PP3 battery.

There will be always losses in circuits so the returned energy will be always less then input.That small difference you have to add, replenish source.


How small are losses? It depends how efficient circuit is.

From a distance it looks like device spends nothing or little but it is not true.

It spends lots of power but most of power it returns to source.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 30, 2018, 03:40:33 PM



Reality bites:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exergy)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_limit (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermodynamic_limit)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise)
But there is not a need for total recapture: 51% recharge  efficiency gives the repowering force for a new cycle
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 30, 2018, 04:01:20 PM
If most of the energy returns to the source, what happens with this lost energy. There is no simple logic here. The energy is lost in the bulb but it could power the system, so how is it possible that the bulb works and "90%" returns to the source. There is a mistake in my reasoning.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 30, 2018, 04:14:26 PM
There will be always losses in circuits so the returned energy will be always less then input.That small difference you have to add, replenish source.


How small are losses? It depends how efficient circuit is.


So; what proportion of the source supplied energy do you estimate is dissipated as heat loss in what you described as the 'hot' L2 bulb in the 'Zero' circuit?

BTW - Units of energy cannot be interchanged for units of power, current or voltage.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on December 30, 2018, 04:18:21 PM
If most of the energy returns to the source, what happens with this lost energy. There is no simple logic here. The energy is lost in the bulb but it could power the system, so how is it possible that the bulb works and "90%" returns to the source. There is a mistake in my reasoning.
Yes, the 90% return to source logic is BS.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 30, 2018, 08:38:30 PM
Lets spark some fire.
Following image is from Q topology.
Yellow is across the input capacitor.
Reference for both the probes is common and it is the ground of battery,
Blue is across Czero.
All caps are 470uf/400V
Input to my push pull is 24Vdc.
Load=40 and 70 watts incadesent which anyway shines bright.
Czero almost 37 volts when charges and 12 when discharges. This is a 25 Volts difference.

Input current from battery looks steady 2A with or without the Q-feedback topology.

Normally i would expect that during return cycle, input voltage to be increased over 24volts. Or at least the input current to drop down even a litle. I;ll check if i have any errors in connections. 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 30, 2018, 08:53:00 PM
If someone really has something, they will be able to demonstrate it. That is for 100% certain.
If they are trying to protect a 'secret' they can simply place the secret part in a box to protect their 'secret'.
People who do not have anything can't demonstrate anything, because they have nothing. ;)
They will make excuses of why they can't demonstrate what they are claiming, such as they
are trying to keep a low profile because they are afraid of MIB's/evil secret agents, or they are trying to protect someone's
patent, etc. This is of course all nonsense. If they were trying to avoid getting the attention of MIB's/evil secret agents they
would say nothing at all, and if they want to protect a secret they can just simply place the secret part in a box, and then
they can demonstrate their amazing device with no issues. ;D

No demo? Then 100% for certain there is nothing there. It is very hard to demo something that doesn't
really work or which has never actually been tested on the bench and proven to work, unless it is just a scam
or a hoax. Hot air out equals hot air in.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2018, 09:11:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJfr_lz0jU
This guy exactly shows processes in  all  of known devices.

Two generators.
90 degrees.
and  rectangular impulse
that rectangular impulse can be generated by third  generator.

injected before the maximum of amplitude.
He  even shows how to calculate parameters

The only addition that I have made was to provide certain and convincing,  common  elementary structure to all. Akula Tariel Vasmus, Ruslan and  others.
in my video https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)
In addition to that:
I made conclusion that Viziv  surface wave can  interact with Shumann waveguide  with one if its polyphase components.
And that is till now the only explanation  pointing at energy origin used than by devices able to interact such Tariel Kapanadze based concept.
the  base for all of  it is Tesla Coil.
Viziv and FE  devices of Tariel Kapanadze concept  uses Tesla Coil.

 I need to give credit to T-1000 My friend Arunas from England  for Lithuania Experiment.

Wesley


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: itsu on December 30, 2018, 09:32:29 PM
Lets spark some fire.
Following image is from Q topology.
Yellow is across the input capacitor.
Reference for both the probes is common and it is the ground of battery,
Blue is across Czero.
All caps are 470uf/400V
Input to my push pull is 24Vdc.
Load=40 and 70 watts incadesent which anyway shines bright.
Czero almost 37 volts when charges and 12 when discharges. This is a 25 Volts difference.

Input current from battery looks steady 2A with or without the Q-feedback topology.

Normally i would expect that during return cycle, input voltage to be increased over 24volts. Or at least the input current to drop down even a litle. I;ll check if i have any errors in connections.


Hi Jeg,


very nice, but:

What is the input cap?  C1?
Blue is across CZero?? You mean from common ground (battery) to CZero/L1 or to CZero/B1?
Load is 40 and 70W (110W), so 2 bulbs?  And what voltage (240V, 12V)?

Input current is 2A, so at 24V = 48W input?

I have a similar setup build, but with the requested 12V input, will post some details later today.


Itsu

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: itsu on December 30, 2018, 10:07:03 PM

I too build the Q device, but the bulb B1 (12v/21W) does not light up (without feedback).

CZero is 2x 10uF parallel / 400V bipolar, it has about 18V DC across it
C2 is 22uF / 250V electrolytic, it has about 35V DC across it

Below screenshots show:

gate signals (running at 10Khz)
drain signals
Signal across L1 
Signal across B1  (nada)

Controller is TL494 with IR2113 
MOSFETs are IRFP260N
(see  https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg474350/#msg474350)

Picture shows the setup.

Input is 12V from a stack of supercaps (6x 100F = 15F) and draws only about 90mA.

Am i doing something wrong?  Is the feedback needed?


Regards Itsu
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: itsu on December 30, 2018, 10:26:08 PM

Now with feedback.

B1 very dimly glows now.

Input current went up from 90mA to 400mA (12V).

Same screenshot as Jeg (i think):

yellow is across C1 (supercaps)
Blue is across common ground (minus supercaps) and L1/CZero.
Green is current through B1.

Running at 60Khz like jeg.
So the feedback leads are needed.


Itsu
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: itsu on December 30, 2018, 10:46:41 PM

Using a 12V / 5W bulb for B1 goes better, some more light.

Same setup as above with feedback.

After 5 minutes, voltage across C1 has dropped from 12V to 9V.
After 8 minutes, at 8.65V, the TL494 shuts off.

Itsu
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 30, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
After 5 minutes, voltage across C1 has dropped from 12V to 9V.
After 8 minutes, at 8.65V, the TL494 shuts off.

Very nice setup Itsu, as always. If I understand your results correctly, then I am shocked that it didn't
work as claimed for you. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 31, 2018, 12:15:45 AM

 Link to  dragon lord
https://www.youtube.com/user/DragonsLord76/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/DragonsLord76/videos) 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 31, 2018, 01:12:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=wIIABIU3tRw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=wIIABIU3tRw)
This is the heart of first  element to FE.
The ability to  send energy to earth air interface.
Although there are many  different  surface waves and modes please understand that being able to send means being able to receive at some distance.


We can receive instead of transmit.
Using polyphase with many components you can  make one of it  interact with Schumann  waveguide.
This is your energy source.


 video  https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)

 structure listed :  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529169/#msg529169 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529169/#msg529169)
watch this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 31, 2018, 01:25:58 AM
 slow waves
https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/ ( click on the video) (https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/)https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/ (https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/)
    ( click on the video) (https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/slow-waves-2/)
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=1163 (https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=1163)

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883)
Kapanadze first excited the connection  and than he received the energy.Viziv sends energy and excites surface wave  and they receive  that what was send  with the receiver.



-All of them use Tesla coil
-All of them use HV
-All of them use bifilar  clockwise and counterclockwise  winding to slow wave and keep  phase shift.
-All of them use ground wire
-All of them use standing wave.

Corum brothers thought about Schumann waveguide in 1988
Tariel did it  by  errors and trials knowing nothing about surface wave


Do you remember Рыбки?  fishes from Sergey Panov video.
https://youtu.be/7pE83oajjoo?t=511 (https://youtu.be/7pE83oajjoo?t=511)
look at upper right corner.
And compare  the fishes with   
https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=635 (https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=635)
the same fishes right?

Wesley
https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=1255 (https://youtu.be/5xUf94WlfI4?t=1255)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on December 31, 2018, 05:27:22 AM
 
Buck boost Autotransformers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtByASWDFwE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtByASWDFwE)

The Current Transformer

Question: What results when you have an open secondary CT?

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html (https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html)

1000A High Current Transformer Experiment
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID7gG6krecI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID7gG6krecI) 

FIN

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 31, 2018, 06:23:30 AM
Hi itsu ;) Nice to see again scopeshots of yours!

Well, i tested one bulb at a time. First 40W and then 70W. Both Incadesent bulbs at 220V.
Yellow is across the input capacitor C1. Blue is taken as you said between L1 and Czero.
Yes input is approximately 2X24V=48W. (with the 40W bulb)

I see at your last scopeshot that your input voltage (yellow) slightly inceases when feedback returns back some energy. Judjing by your very high input capacitance, looks like a generous return. Probably i have a flaw in my wiring connections as i don't see any change across my input capacitor C1=470uF.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on December 31, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
Itsu, V8Carlos
I think there is a flaw in the original Q-circuit. When Czero charges , L1 steals charges from the input capacitors, something that has to be blocked.
Itsu it will be easier if you could measure with your current probe, what flows between D1 and C2 and to what direction.

If this is true then the addition of D3 is of a necessity.

 Also if everyone agree to move this conversation in the old kapanadje thread or in a new one for not disturbing the guys here.   
Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 31, 2018, 01:10:14 PM
We are struggling years on bench with Ruslan's bullshits! What you just described it has already been tested with so many different ways i really can't remember. Yes the timing that you say is correct. But you always need power to create high voltage peaks. No matter how much power you need, at the end of the superimposition we are again at the starting point. Pout=Pin-losses.

About this 90 degrees thing is a nice subject for loosing few years more until to understand that the above equation doesn't ever change. But this is only my personal opinion of cource ;)

Guys i open again the old rusty Kapanadje thread for the V8-tests.


It will be good to start new tread Q.


About Q device. It uses energy trough bulb in both 2 phase. But it is returning energy only in 1 phase. So it should be 50% returned. In reality, losses, lets say 45%. If you could manage it to return energy in both phases you have your monster. It is that simple.


I work during New Year Eve so i wont be able to be on forum.for a few days. I write this from my mobile. The idea is real and the principle is good. You decide.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on December 31, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
And now you will be able to know how Wesley was able to  excite dielectric.https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883)
Oh, Wesley..
When this antenna worked, I could show you such "wonders" at a distance of 5 kilometers from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7eoZIGGDGk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7eoZIGGDGk)
https://realt.onliner.by/2018/04/27/radio (https://realt.onliner.by/2018/04/27/radio)
Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 31, 2018, 04:20:40 PM
We are struggling years on bench with Ruslan's bullshits! What you just described it has already been tested with so many different ways i really can't remember. Yes the timing that you say is correct. But you always need power to create high voltage peaks. No matter how much power you need, at the end of the superimposition we are again at the starting point. Pout=Pin-losses.
About this 90 degrees thing is a nice subject for loosing few years more until to understand that the above equation doesn't ever change. But this is only my personal opinion of cource ;)
Guys i open again the old rusty Kapanadje thread for the V8-tests.

Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping someone here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: v8karlo on December 31, 2018, 08:19:13 PM
Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping somewhere here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.


I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 31, 2018, 08:29:25 PM

I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?

Hi v8karlo. Not that it is relevant, but on my test bench, as always. ;)
I I come across something that I think is genuinely noteworthy, and if I feel like it,
I may show it. None of that changes the fact that the circuits you posted are not likely at all
going to do anything special, for the reasons I have already clearly explained. Sorry, but that
is just the reality of the situation.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on December 31, 2018, 08:40:43 PM
It is better to do anything than Nothing like you do. I noticed that you two attacking anyone who has any idea at all.is it because you can not do something? You are smart guys. But you are not using that.

Hi v8karlo. Rather than trying to deflect, why not just address the legitimate issues raised?
I have explained clearly enough why it should not work. Why not just show a demonstration with
proper measurements of how those circuits you posted will improve the efficiency over just powering
a light bulb directly with a battery or with an inverter? You have already posted the circuit details, so posting
a demo should not be an issue. It should be quite straightforward for you to do if you have really measured
some unusual efficiency gain with these setups. All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 01, 2019, 02:07:17 AM
My best regards to you.


Stay inert and do nothing like you always do. For you, I am faking heat without power. Probably by magic.
Yeah magic is a keyword if they want to see how your device works and learn
then build the dam thing scope it and give us all a rest.
Happy new year to everyone.

But does it work if some clever Geza allocated you with a smart meter?  He, He!     

v8karlo Thing is Karlo is a thinker and a doer.             
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 01, 2019, 04:18:35 PM
AG did post this in Kapanadze topic but it should probably go here first ?

AG ..Power from the Sun ...

Stefan put these links in the comments

..Snip
overunity.com >>> Go here: The full website is: http://zpower.biz/ (http://zpower.biz/) or: http://zpower.net/ (http://zpower.net/) And here new infos: https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/ (https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/)       (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=mpQ6Xh9poO6LD-CBP0z4TXsatnt8MTU0NjQzNjg5N0AxNTQ2MzUwNDk3&event=comments&q=https%3A%2F%2Fspark.adobe.com%2Fpage%2FsRdP4qaNoCRW0%2F&stzid=UgxcsJ23eItv-Mxp1rh4AaABAg.8pXX5fpaz1l8pY2BK0RCF8) http://fluxpowertechnology.com/ (http://fluxpowertechnology.com/)
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PS..
in another bit of open source FE business a member at Energetic forum that shares his work  asks a question about iron Oxide [he is a good man and can use all the support this community can offer IMO
and besides helping him it would be useful for experimenters here working with 3d printers or "other" in outside the box experiments...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 01, 2019, 06:06:09 PM
overunity.com >>> Go here: The full website is: http://zpower.biz/ (http://zpower.biz/) or: http://zpower.net/ (http://zpower.net/) And here new infos: https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/ (https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/)       (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=mpQ6Xh9poO6LD-CBP0z4TXsatnt8MTU0NjQzNjg5N0AxNTQ2MzUwNDk3&event=comments&q=https%3A%2F%2Fspark.adobe.com%2Fpage%2FsRdP4qaNoCRW0%2F&stzid=UgxcsJ23eItv-Mxp1rh4AaABAg.8pXX5fpaz1l8pY2BK0RCF8) http://fluxpowertechnology.com/ (http://fluxpowertechnology.com/)


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html)

 http://zpower.biz/ (http://zpower.biz/)
in 10:19  https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=612 (https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=612)
The guy says about oscilloscope in such a way that the conclusion indicates variable components.

in 10:31 https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=631 (https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=631)
The guy is warning about dangerous shock. That indicates  HV.
However measurement  shows 15.5V.
Well easy enough HV low current  = low  voltage High current
So meter is switched to DC and it only shows DC component.
The AC component can not damage  the meter as the current is   low.
But meter on AC does not show it. It shows only 138 mV.

We have enclosure of  helicopter light that has light bulb replaced.  The original lightbulb was 800W : 28V DC = 28.571A
The  guy conforms that he removed  original  lightbulb and all electronics from the enclosure.
We assume that replaced  lightbulb used the same mirror and   it was at nominal  24V with the device now  at ~ 18V  of steady  DC component under load.
At my Gamma Scientific PHO 4040,  light  from the video at its brightest point was compared to light of incandescent flat light from 45W light bulb.
This light was recorded  and than projected  and measured  on the same screen of my computer side by side .
The light used as my reference was measured from the distance of   3.5m .
That is close to the estimated distance of the camera to the reflector from the video.
The two brightest points of both  indicated ~ 42W .
However if  we approximate focused  light beam from helicopter  reflector  using mirror. we come to  lightbulb  of 35W running at approximately 50% of its nominal brightness.
that means  16-17W.

And now  lets take as a base  for calculation the maximum  of possible - nominal 45W.
So my error in  calculation of power dissipated by the reflector can be within  45:100 x 35= 15.75
15.75 : 2 = +/-  7.875%
So  the  effective range of  energy consumed by  Lightbulb  inside the reflector is   in  average   its maximum  around  20 to 22 W
To low 12W to 15W.
That is why the guy used helicopter reflector mirror  instead   of just regular incandescent lightbulb.
He wanted to impress potential viewer with  light intensity.

Please note that the original lightbulb used 4 wires than connected to regular  outlet box.
The module with   quote 
Quote
5 different  frequencies
can be simply digital switch  switching relay inside enclosure to the battery using one single impulse.
the stack of plates  can be additional battery  (in addition  to the one hidden in  the helicopter  light enclosure .)
 

 enclosure of that  reflector has enough place for quite good battery inside.

Wesley
 


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 01, 2019, 09:36:21 PM
... and it is not even a full moon. 

Meanwhile, let's get back to the lab, and see what we have on the slab... ;D

My current test setup with some new improvements seems to still be showing COP < 1, but so far at least seemingly giving
quite high efficiency. I know I can get the efficiency at least a little better yet, as I haven't fully optimized the setup yet.
Will I be able to break the COP = 1 barrier? Chances are I won't, but I am not giving up (yet). :) My current circuit concept
at least theoretically should be at least quite efficient, which my latest design appears to be so far, and by my way of thinking
it might possibly do even a little better than it is performing now once I get everything optimized. What's my point?
My first several tries at this circuit did not perform well at all, but I observed what were the main issues with
the setup and thought about how I might be able to address those issues. I then made changes to the setup
in a step by step manner and observed whether my new changes helped or not. I am learning from both my
failures and from what helps improve the setup's performance. My suggestion is take things step by step
and don't be put off by failures. Learn from those failures and use this new knowledge to design better setups.
Theory and ideas can only take you so far. You must start testing at some point on the test bench, and approaching
this testing in a systematic and step by step progressive manner is probably a very good idea, IMO. Don't
let failures discourage you, but you must be willing to observe carefully and think about the implications from different
angles so you can learn from your failures. My two cent's worth for the new year. ;D

P.S. As has been pointed out already here, if the theory behind your test setup does not include a way to draw in
energy from external to your test setup into your test setup, you are not likely at all ever going to see a COP > 1.
Start with a theory for achieving COP > 1 which you think potentially at least holds some promise, then put this theory
to the test systematically on the test bench. If it doesn't work at all as predicted and you have tested it well, then
you probably need to go back to the drawing board at that point. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 01, 2019, 10:27:33 PM
Paul just dropped this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjto75krz7vtyuj/Tesla%20Turbo%20%C2%A9%20Copyright%202019%20-%20All%20Rights%20Reserved%20-%20Open%20Source%20Project%20v0.1.m4v?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjto75krz7vtyuj/Tesla%20Turbo%20%C2%A9%20Copyright%202019%20-%20All%20Rights%20Reserved%20-%20Open%20Source%20Project%20v0.1.m4v?dl=0)..
over here...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21075-nikola-tesla-s-turbine-secrets-global-open-source-project-4.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21075-nikola-tesla-s-turbine-secrets-global-open-source-project-4.html)
..
Not sure if he has achieved phase change with gain [ala Clem]or ??
and yes I know.... its not good to hug the plastic at a zillion RPM [very exciting.... Butt ?!!]
actual demo starts at 2 min mark ,runaway ?or ? at the end//
Quite possible they are seeing a second stage hitting its design window and needing much less input,....self run would tell for certain if they hit a phase change with gain or ??..
regardless the fearless hand does seem to initiate the increase RPM when he applies that back pressure to the out flow [standing wave hand tuned exhaust .....
wild stuff indeed
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on January 02, 2019, 01:21:07 AM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCC8mY7ykM4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCC8mY7ykM4) (part 2)
   [Includes Grenade in simulation Schematic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJfr_lz0jU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJfr_lz0jU) (part 1)

Thank you ACCA
FIN

Addendum:
RUSLAN videos (physical device appreciation)
https://www.youtube.com/user/DragonsLord76/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/DragonsLord76/videos)

FIN

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 02, 2019, 04:14:27 PM
Good stuff.
Thank you my friend


 .
Wesley

I do not  take any responsibility for your action .
to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
That applies to all post of mine and all videos of mine.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 02, 2019, 07:33:57 PM
So guys the whole  trick is in that so called  "mirror reflection of the ground phase"
At certain point you trapping  electromagnetic wave inside of that interface between air and ground.
but  in reverse  we may say that we are dealing  with Schumann waveguide having one of its boundaries shared with our receiver.
that is the earth.
All lightnings and all energy  fluctuations are  affecting that boundary .
Now what we need is the receiver. that matches exactly phase  dependent energy inside of that interface.

- Kapanadze receiver.
- Akula receiver
- Ruslan reciver
- SR193 receiver
- Vasmus receiver
- Chibanidze receiver

When Corum brothers where talking about  protecting their energy send by their Viziv tower  they  said that
It is impossible for anyone to be able to steal this  energy because  algorithm requires
exact phase match of that polyphase   components.
Yes they are right.
They can create zillions of polyphase components.
Their problem is:
That they do not know that nature does not care about their polyphase.




Wesley

Legal Note: I do not  take any responsibility for your action .
to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
That applies to all post of mine and all videos of mine.

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 02, 2019, 09:34:11 PM

Legal Note: I do not  take any responsibility for your action .
to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
That applies to all post of mine and all videos of mine.


"Read  my  post again.[/size]the energy is extracted from  Schumann  waveguide."
only in this case I think, it's still not explanation at all
I'll try again:
In traditional approach:
You have suspended  sphere in the air
You can move  sphere up down
The mast is telescopic structure made from PCV
The  HV of Tesla coil  is right below
The primary winding of Tesla Coil is at the bottom.
However that coil is not on the ground.

This is your transmitter.
The height of the sphere is your tuning factor.
The diameters and  other vital structure  elements are given on the picture.

The receiver can be exactly the same  if you already phase matched it.
So how to do it;

Legal note : never do it. :)
1.Make two identical structures
2.the first one is your transmitter. Tx
3.the second one is  your receiver. Rx
4.place  both of them at the distance of 20 meters.( so Rx is not in Near Field in Tx)
5.Try to tune  the transmitting structure  primary  coil using at first regular function generator.It is tricky as you need right polyphase.
it should be close to 90 degrees ( not exactly  90) but I got it at 45 degrees.
6.Try to adjust your receiving  structure  similarly and have oscilloscope connected ( at best spectrum analyzer) to the low  voltage primary coil of Receiving structure.
7."Blindly" play with frequency of transmitting function generator and height of the  sphere.   
8. make sure that your Tesla coil  works on its resonance frequency. So you must calculate or measure its  highest point of resonance.
NOT ITS HARMONIC resonance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. observe  using another person what is going on  at the receiver side.
10. than minimize the power   from generator to 50% ,retune both  the Rx and Tx
11. than minimize the power to 10% and retune .



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 02, 2019, 10:38:19 PM
Hi Wesley. In my experience in this area of research only the test bench can tell you what actually works
and what does not. What might seem easy in theory often doesn't work out that way when put to the actual test. :)
Nature has a tendency of getting in the way of our ideas. Here is reminder of what Kapanadze's basic 2004 setup looked like.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 02, 2019, 10:46:19 PM
No concern that this "transmitter" technology is probably restricted in use by

a. https://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx (https://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx)  International frequency band use or national b. Genfer Konvention : acoustic weapons/instruments
 c. health-regulations: electro-magnetic compatibility
We have had in the last thirty years sufficient discussions ( studies ? ) about electro-smog.
No my friend:
Acoustical wave is longitudinal wave that is property of classical physics.
Zenneck wave is in area of quantum physics and is electromagnetic TEM that has nothing to do  with acoustics.
It is also non radiative. -  After the Near Field   it disappear . It does not exist in Far Field. Well sort of...

If your Tx is not transmitting omnidirectional  electromagnetic wave,  but flat surface wave than there is no way  for any agency or anyone to find its presence.
We are talking about not radiating TEM and its TM ( transverse magnetic mode ) not  about  EM Wave.
There are no receivers in the  world  for it known to me.
Think about non polluting flat wave like flat  squashed elephant, or
flat ant squashed by   bulldozer and now in the interface.
- the elephant is your 1000W
- the ant is your 1W 


Viziv  license  expired.
if you want to  be  on  line with regulation you can check your local regulations.


Wesley

Legal Note: I do not  take any responsibility for your action .
to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
That applies to all post of mine and all videos of mine.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 02, 2019, 11:36:41 PM
Okay,  thanks a lot !
What I see is an "Experiment" period licence, expired.
What I see here is a relatively huge tower
  https://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide
 (https://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwidein) In relationship to "1000 W" transmitter power range.I hope that your "tower" is portable ! ;)

Sincerely -              OCWL
False assumption.
Small tiny  antenna that resonates at frequency X is equal in performance  to  huge antenna  at frequency X.
the only  difference is  in efficiency of that antenna.

However receiving antennas are more forgiving.
When your transmitter has high VSWR it just damages the Tx
When your receiver  has  impedance mismatch  it simply receives less.
Think about your car radio with broken antenna.
http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/vswr.php (http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/vswr.php)

Corum Brothers are not gods and their experience is much below Tariel Kapanadze practical experience.
Tariel theoretical experience is very low. He had no idea what he was playing with.
What they know  that they use.
First microwave was  at the size of  truck.
Please read my previous post again
I have made  some addition to it.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2019, 12:09:25 AM
I do not conceptual understand your used expression " same performance" and your resume that it only depends from the efficiency.For me, following high fidelity devices, it depends from the receiver: thereby included tuner , equalizer and modulator, Amplitude + Frequency + Time Modulation .The antennas function:: tube or channel or " black/white whole"
I explained it in the link talking  about VSWR. Please read it, in my  previous  post.
 So  it is not size of an antenna but impedance  match that makes an antenna  of any size to transmit energy.
The physical  aperture of an antenna is only important if you targeting  specific performance.
e.g. Your Far Field in given frequency at desired  direction.
You can use half wave  or quarter wave length of dipole antenna . But you can shorten  that antenna with baluns( shortening coils.) like G5RG
You can use the same length of wire  minus its capacitive wind to wind  factor coiled in coil.
It will work beautifully.  But now this antenna is very small.
As long as SWR is 1:1 or close to it.
However SWR 1:5 in receiver is still  excellent antenna.
That is why I said receiving antennas  are more forgiving.
Tesla coil is the coil. But you can stretch  HV coil wire and  it will work.

Now your traditional receiver has  sensitivity of 0.1uV in average.
That says only about receiver ability to process signals that are 0.1uV over the noise floor.
And that has nothing to do with the antenna.
Antenna is independent creature good or bad for you at given frequency  range.
And its gain is measured  with db (Decibels .)

I must totally disagree with you . Antenna is not the filter.
It does not block anything it only resonates or not.
And it has bandwidth with one particular highest frequency of its resonance that gives you the highest  level of the signal  in TX or RX.- with proper impedance match.
-or the highest gain.

I'm just insignificant  member of shadows of  the crowd.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 03, 2019, 12:28:57 AM
I told you guys before what I think Mr. Kapanadze's secret is, but for some reason
no one believes me. 

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 03, 2019, 05:53:17 AM
mr kapanaze secret is to understand that the earth and the atmosphere is an actively
charged asymmetrical massive capacitor. what most people fail on is that you have to have
a massive ground system, because that is where the mass of the charge current is coming from.
this guy explain so clearly even a carpenter can understand it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk4CJLjNwfQ&t=3s
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 03, 2019, 11:31:26 AM
Moin Moin or Good morning ! The light-wave frequency oscillation spectrum has his "trinity": in Units( included pseudo-) eV, dB and nm.
Next :
 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonichttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_(disambiguation)
 Caution the meaning differences : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_(disambiguation (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonichttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_(disambiguation))
and

 classical physics-"philosophy" :
 -  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplace%27s_demon) -  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon)
  What means " Paradigma, Axiom" in a Meta -World?
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2019, 04:48:54 PM



 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529359/#msg529359 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529359/#msg529359)



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 03, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
I don't think the transmitter receiver pair is the simplest we can do. If you look at Kapanadze device they look much simpler. In fact I believe all you need is a transformer, capacitor and the switching mechanism.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2019, 05:32:01 PM
I don't think the transmitter receiver pair is the simplest we can do. If you look at Kapanadze device they look much simpler.
In fact I believe all you need is a transformer, capacitor and the switching mechanism.
When you make pair of Tx, Rx to work,based on my link, the only what you need to remember is 2 generators.
Everyone with no single exclusion used it.However looking at Marconi in Bolinas California ,he in 1920-1923 was trying to do it bases on original
Tesla'sConcept. - using only 1 generator with phase shift. Look at history about Marconi.I did.   


 Schumann waveguide boundary has only 2 polyphase components to match........... likely.





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 03, 2019, 05:48:21 PM
William Wordsworth  ;D

You got it.   ;D

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 03, 2019, 06:47:17 PM
Hi Wesley. I think the problem is that just saying that these devices are drawing the excess energy
from surface waves travelling along the surface of the Earth (possibly at a Schumann resonant frequency)
does not appear to help people much from a practical point of view in getting these setups working. However,
maybe I have missed some specific practical details that you have outlined here or in your video, so I will try to
review everything again this weekend if/when I get the chance.  All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 03, 2019, 06:53:18 PM
for our learned colleague   lancaIV . you should not stop
you meds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dihQuwrf9yQ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 03, 2019, 10:07:36 PM
I follow this diskussion for some while now ... its not my intend to express my view on the topic ..

how ever this is eventually little aid for wesley to help some guys here out in termes of understanding..

1 http://www.vlf.it/inductor/inductor.htm  about schumann phenomena

2 https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/frank_radio_antenna_magloop.htm     scroll down and look for distribution of voltage and current .

all the best Jo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 03, 2019, 10:15:57 PM
Hi Wesley. No worries at all. There is no rush.
I was just giving you some feedback on your post.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2019, 11:47:00 PM
I follow this diskussion for some while now ... its not my intend to express my view on the topic ..
how ever this is eventually little aid for wesley to help some guys here out in termes of understanding..
1 http://www.vlf.it/inductor/inductor.htm (http://www.vlf.it/inductor/inductor.htm)  about schumann phenomena
2 https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/frank_radio_antenna_magloop.htm (https://www.nonstopsystems.com/radio/frank_radio_antenna_magloop.htm)     scroll down and look for distribution of voltage and current .
all the best Jo
Thank you very much  my dear Jo.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 04, 2019, 02:31:33 AM
Is " resonance" good ( = desireable) or is it bad ( = neutralize, eliminate) ?
Explanation about the several kinds and views of " resonance" and how to treat :
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7843299B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7843299B2/en)       
Very  entertaining Thank you. This  patents uses typical method of magnetic amplifiers by implementing additional winding  exactly as primary winding but  acting   as parallel resonance circuit.,
that means   in resonance all frequencies are allowed   but one..  and if you short them to ground than you have reluctance switch when core is used.
when core is not used such as  air transformer you have perfect  overload preventing mechanism.
There is one moment useful to us for general understanding  of our phenomena of interest.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 04, 2019, 03:51:25 AM
Important  links with corresponding pictures.:
1. http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8466-teslas-magnifying-transmitter-replications-4.html   (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/8466-teslas-magnifying-transmitter-replications-4.html)Please go to  middle of the page and look for  picture ad #1
Quote
Originally Posted by William Beaty 
This only can work because the long, thin coil will support slowly-moving electromagnetic waves,
and the electron-sea within the metal of this coil behaves as if it's become compressible...
The EM fields are transverse. And the only thing which acts like a "longitudinal" wave is the density of free electrons in the wire.
The  author  of this comment on  original  drawing  did make  mistake.
look here https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529434/#msg529434 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529434/#msg529434)

2. http://www.tuks.nl/Mirror/tfcbooks_Tesla/articles/tws12.htm (http://www.tuks.nl/Mirror/tfcbooks_Tesla/articles/tws12.htm)

3
.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uii9clp_DSg  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uii9clp_DSg)rybki.. the fishes.
That is what makes slow wave the group velocity
You can  write in YouTube  word "group velocity" to find easier  to understand material.
 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on January 04, 2019, 03:39:13 PM
Wesley's contribution as an insightful deep thinking investigator has brought up very important points to take to the bench, his many lab experiments should be applauded.
Typical social engineering trying to get people to toss out the baby with the bathwater.  One must consider the source of derision, as there is an intended outcome.

Another possible challenge to the Corrum bros is the Robert T Hart patents for antenna design claiming mag field perturbation without EM radiation.  Claims are different workings similar at the surface boundary.  US20070013595A1  When tuning is correct reactance cancels EM component.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field

"The first objective of this article is to explain what surface plasmons and surface plasmon polaritons are. The term surface plasmons (SPs) was first coined in the middle of the 20th century to study the response of thin metal foils at petahertz frequencies when subjected to fast electron bombardment. SPs are coherent electron oscillations that exist at the interface between two materials where the real part of the permittivity changes sign across the interface. When an SP couples with a photon, the resulting hybrid excitation is called a surface plasmon polariton (SPP). SP refers to the charge oscillations alone, while SPP refers to the entire excitation of the charge oscillations and the electromagnetic (EM) wave. Under the right conditions, the photon can excite a longitudinal wave of electrons in the metal. The second objective is to describe the evolution of these concepts over the years and illustrate their relation to a surface wave and not to a Zenneck wave. Both Zenneck and surface waves are transverse magnetic (TM) waves. The surface waves thus cannot be excited by transverse EM (TEM) waves but rather by an electron beam that can be effectively generated by a source of electrons or a quasiparticle such as an evanescent wave, which can tunnel through the medium and thus excite the electrons. This electron wave produces its own EM wave, and this plasmonic wave is confined to a very small region near the interface. Hence, SPP is a surface wave with a longitudinal field component that propagates at the interface between a metal and a dielectric at petahertz when the conditions are right and can propagate along the metal-dielectric interface at a wavelength that is shorter than that of incident light until its energy is lost either via absorption in the conductivity of the metal or through radiation in free space. The longitudinal surface wave of an SPP is sometimes wrongly associated with a Zenneck wave. A Zenneck wave is produced at the zero of the reflection coefficient of a plane incident TM wave (at the Brewster angle of incidence) on an air-dielectric interface, whereas surface waves are produced when the TM reflection coefficient is infinite. Both the Zenneck wave and the surface wave are TM waves and are nonradiating, as they have, in general, exponentially decaying fields with distance. For the Zenneck wave, the evanescent transverse field components do not change appreciably with frequency (because the phenomenon of Brewster angle is independent of frequency), whereas for a surface wave, with an increase of the frequency the wave is more closely coupled to the surface. This property makes it possible to distinguish between these two evanescent waves. SPP is generally coupled with Raman scattering and not with Rayleigh scattering. These points are illustrated in the remainder of the article. Hence, surface plasmons/polaritrons are surface waves that are the solution of Maxwell's equations unless perhaps there is a resonant Raman scattering, which is equivalent to exciting the structure with an incident frequency corresponding to the electronic absorption bands, as illustrated in "A Survey of the Various Natures of Light Scattering"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 04, 2019, 03:42:11 PM
After5 seconds reading: Peta-Hertz !!!
 WELLCOME : Fermi-Dirac Dimension

similar re-/search: https://books.google.pt/books?id=v_K6jmnGTS4C&pg=PA43&lpg=PA43&dq=zpe+mead&source=bl&ots=pwEFF0FmhC&sig=F2_H4wwEajK1bzoM_tGW-yl6G2Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiO_5qz5dTfAhWLMhQKHe6tD-AQ6AEIGzAG#v=onepage&q=zpe%20mead&f=false

You can dream out the device but actually this is prototype stage in lab !After the prototype the mass production machine prototype,........
What helps to have an antenna if the L...-gap is a. too short b. too large  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larmor_precession)
  Raman- Bose + Einstein-Bose                             
                                KONDENSAT ! ???
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on January 04, 2019, 03:48:33 PM
I notice a lot of misinformation here and there.

A Zenneck surface wave is a planar electromagnetic wave that propagates at the boundary interface between two media with different dielectric constants. Instead of extending in 3D, it extends in 2D, with rapid attenuation when moving away perpendicular to the surface.
There is nothing new about this, it is always an electromagnetic wave with its electric field perpendicular to the surface and its magnetic field parallel to the surface.

It has been used since the beginning of the 20th century for long and medium wave radio transmissions. A hectometric frequency band has even been reserved for exclusive maritime use, due to the excellence of this type of propagation on the sea surface.
As always in radio where the signal weakens in 1/r², surface wave or not, it is therefore impossible to use these waves to transmit energy.

Tesla's transmission device has nothing to do with Zenneck's waves, because of the very low frequencies it used, which meant that the transmitter and receiver remained in the same near field, unlike the LW and MW radio waves. This was precisely the interest of the device, since the strong coupling obtained in this way made the transfer between transmitter and receiver much more efficient.
With very low frequencies, therefore very long wavelengths, it became possible to envision long distances while remaining in the near field. But it means forgetting that the efficiency of such a system depends on the size of the radiating elements, relative to the wavelength. If the Schumann frequencies were to be used efficiently, towers would have to be built whose height would represent at least 10% of the earth's radius!
Sorry for the believers in Tesla as God, but on long-distance energy transmission, Tesla screwed up, he was a much better engineer and inventor than a physicist.
hi F6FLT,

I think you have misinterpreted Tesla's method of transmission like the rest of the 99% typical crowd whom prefer to believe in Marconi whom applied "electromagnetic waves" for long distance radio communication.
Isn't that what we were taught.
But words like Zenneck's waves or maybe surface waves was not used during that era but that is not the point.

After Wesley have presented his
Zenneck[/color][/font][/size]
demonstration.

The first video i can directly associate/recall is Eric Dollard-Tesla's Longitudinal Electricity.
Before you start commenting on anything.
Please watch Eric dollard full video or start from 34minute into video as provided.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFa-IymyWHM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFa-IymyWHM)
From the above video it's easy for me to understand which type of dielectric containing a particular noble gas can be used to enhance transmitting range better than what Wesley likely have used for the recent zenneck video which is already considered a successfully replicated demo model.   :D

I do admit one thing-surface wave even if fully understood can't be used for interstellar communication. :-X
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 04, 2019, 05:03:05 PM
Gabriel Kron said his network analyzer for the navy worked without the power source after it was started from battery. He said negative resistors exist and open circuits using them is the answer.

Trying to hunt down his paper where he said this, but it seems every archive has the other papers and not his...

The Tensor is the Tensor society's paper and this paper is from 1963-64

He also said that in systems theory it is customary to replace negative resistance with a capacitor and positive with a inductor. Then he said that if the system appears to have a negative resistance in it, it behaves like there is one. So no "actual" component is necessary, if the system thinks there is one.

Also interesting that only reference to Kron's paper is in Bearden's page and the reference to that paper says "unknown". Everybody else references Bearden. Took me a while to track down which paper Bearden was referring to

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 04, 2019, 05:38:37 PM
Gabriel Kron "The Frustrating Search for a Geometrical Model of Electrodynamic Networks"
http://www.energeticforum.com/archive/index.php/t-962-p-7.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/archive/index.php/t-962-p-7.html) 01-09-2019 6:13 AM

https://books.google.pt/books?id=XvIkBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=the+frustrating+search+for+a+geometrical+model+of+electrodynamic+network&source=bl&ots=HlovmX8w2a&sig=W6OCyvSDgvcHH0AfpCgEm5Myjp4&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv_JDFyNTfAhUGkRQKHZi6DjMQ6AEIFDAC#v=onepage&q=the%20frustrating%20search%20for%20a%20geometrical%20model%20of%20electrodynamic%20network&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=XvIkBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=the+frustrating+search+for+a+geometrical+model+of+electrodynamic+network&source=bl&ots=HlovmX8w2a&sig=W6OCyvSDgvcHH0AfpCgEm5Myjp4&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv_JDFyNTfAhUGkRQKHZi6DjMQ6AEIFDAC#v=onepage&q=the%20frustrating%20search%20for%20a%20geometrical%20model%20of%20electrodynamic%20network&f=false)

http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/KronGabriel1.htm (http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/KronGabriel1.htm)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 04, 2019, 06:44:08 PM
Gabriel Krohn "The Frustrating Search for a Geometrical Model of Electrodynamic Networks"
http://www.energeticforum.com/archive/index.php/t-962-p-7.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/archive/index.php/t-962-p-7.html) 01-09-2019 6:13 AM

https://books.google.pt/books?id=XvIkBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=the+frustrating+search+for+a+geometrical+model+of+electrodynamic+network&source=bl&ots=HlovmX8w2a&sig=W6OCyvSDgvcHH0AfpCgEm5Myjp4&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv_JDFyNTfAhUGkRQKHZi6DjMQ6AEIFDAC#v=onepage&q=the%20frustrating%20search%20for%20a%20geometrical%20model%20of%20electrodynamic%20network&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=XvIkBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=the+frustrating+search+for+a+geometrical+model+of+electrodynamic+network&source=bl&ots=HlovmX8w2a&sig=W6OCyvSDgvcHH0AfpCgEm5Myjp4&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiv_JDFyNTfAhUGkRQKHZi6DjMQ6AEIFDAC#v=onepage&q=the%20frustrating%20search%20for%20a%20geometrical%20model%20of%20electrodynamic%20network&f=false)

http://www.quantum-chemistry-history.com/Kron_Dat/KronGabriel1.htm

Yes I know the paper where that article was by Kron. What I can't find is the actual paper "The Tensor"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 04, 2019, 06:57:25 PM
https://archive.org/details/TensorsForCircuits
Probably there is it to find
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 04, 2019, 08:20:24 PM

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=620 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=620) watch it for another  two minutes.
The phase match is created  by use of two generators, but you can use one generator with phase shift.
The initial phase relation is created by  9V battery powering  generators.
Than the energy  from one of polyphase components is interacting  (matching  phase shift) with surface wave.
Part of that energy is used to  keep the generators working.

We need to understand that  we do not deal with transmitted energy  but with  receiver. Rx
Receiver is more forgiving than  Tx
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 04, 2019, 08:41:28 PM
To get an idea about possibilities:
  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=5590031A&KC=A&FT=D#
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mie_scattering

  And citing documents

  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=5590031A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=&date=19961231&DB=&locale=
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 04, 2019, 08:59:07 PM
To get an idea about possibilities:
  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=5590031A&KC=A&FT=D#

Hi lancaIV. That is an interesting patent. They claim their device will convert 'high frequency zero point
electromagnetic radiation energy to electrical energy', and their patent was granted (US5590031A).
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/37/c6/ba/566c00e9b0f513/US5590031.pdf
They use two dielectric spheres.

"Abstract
A system is disclosed for converting high frequency zero point electromagnetic radiation energy to electrical energy.
The system includes a pair of dielectric structures which are positioned proximal to each other and which receive incident
zero point electromagnetic radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are selected so that they resonate at a frequency
of the incident radiation. The volumetric sizes of the structures are also slightly different so that the secondary radiation emitted
there from at resonance interfere with each other producing a beat frequency radiation which is at a much lower frequency than
that of the incident radiation and which is amenable to conversion to electrical energy. An antenna receives the beat frequency radiation.
The beat frequency radiation from the antenna is transmitted to a converter via a conductor or waveguide and converted to electrical energy
having a desired voltage and waveform."

It is interesting, but Mr. Kapanadze does not seem to use two dielectric spheres or other such dielectric structures.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 04, 2019, 09:18:51 PM
Void,  Kapanadze: Impedance matching network here
 Mead, Nachamkin: beat frequency circuit and transformer
It is to compare and to search and find the easiest way to get "common" DC or AC current.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 05, 2019, 12:05:13 AM
Thanks Wesley. The Kapanadze green box device lamp load is connected between the ground wire (running through the centre of the antenna / grenade) and one end of the antenna winding - see attached clip. This does not make sense to me in relation to the schematics you posted in your reply to me. Can you explain this please?
I'll  try.
There are  many ways to receive  surface wave.
Viziv page shows three different concepts.
Tariel Kapanadze used  at least 5 different concepts.
The common factor for all of that from Viziv and Tariel together  is the means  of tuning.
Note: I have seen  green box only  on video.

Note: second picture is  related only to that  particular concept
Word rotation means  change of angle only.
Note: original patent application  of Corum Brothers says:
about CW/CCW winding !!!!! read it you'll see it.
They knew about it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 05, 2019, 12:34:57 AM
Thanks Wesley. However, the kapanadze load is misplaced in respect to your crossed representation because the load is in series connection with the one leg of the antenna and the ground wire.
look at  picture 12a you have series  connection.
just cut out impedance matching box as if it  did not exist.You use it only if you need it.
You can do  the same with 12b
There you go
You may still call it parallel but  it is series with respect to ground
You may say there is no ground.
Than think about counterpoise.
Kapanadze concept was much more advanced but it was very unstable and highly reactive.
Kapanadze was trying to move his device only in vertical axis Y. Walking with it would ruin his show.
I did the same here with placing dielectric on the top of another.
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1174 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1174)
and not to much.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 05, 2019, 01:36:10 AM
I decided to  make comment ,
 

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)

contra-wound
combined
= CCW/ CW = Kapanadze coil
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 05, 2019, 02:52:08 AM
#2074 James Corum 1980 priority year patent to citing documents
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=4751515A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=&date=19880614&DB=&locale= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=4751515A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=&date=19880614&DB=&locale=)
with newest 2018 entry from CPG Technologies ( not to promote only to compare 1980 knowledge with 2018 technical standart)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 05, 2019, 06:07:58 AM
Yes please do it.
We may  assign his coil to one of concepts of Corum brothers.
Thank you.
By the way I did not list Daly
Look also at word: combined.
from text above.
Wesley

Hi Wesley. OK, after reviewing the pictures of Daly's coil disassembly, there was not
any special counter windings like Akula and Ruslan used that I can see. Daly did have have two
to three layers of wire for his output coil on one end of the coil form, but all the turns seems to have
been in the same direction for his output coil. He just seems to have wound it that way to be able to
fit all the turns he wanted for his output coil on there, and there was extra room at one end of the coil form
since the coax he used for the high voltage impulses didn't run the full length of his coil form.

I believe Akula first copied Daly's setup, and then made his own variations after that, of which Ruslan later copied.
I believe I see a common general approach in all these devices, and therefore I think I have the general idea of how
to try to replicate these devices. Once I finish my experiments with my current test setup not related to these devices,
I will try to do a proper replication of these type of devices based on the way I think these devices need to be configured.
If I get anything working, I will try to make a demo video. :)

I would say it is definitely still unknown where the extra energy is coming from for these devices, assuming they really work
as claimed and shown, and I am inclined to think Kapanadze may be sincere when he says he thinks the energy comes from the
'surrounding ambient environment'. In other words, I think no one is really quite sure where the actual energy is coming from, is my guess.
First a person has to get a setup of this type working, and then you can let the propeller-head physicists argue over where the energy
is really coming from. ;)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 05, 2019, 10:13:17 AM
look at  picture 12a you have series  connection.
just cut out impedance matching box as if it  did not exist.You use it only if you need it.
You can do  the same with 12b
There you go
You may still call it parallel but  it is series with respect to ground
You may say there is no ground.
Than think about counterpoise.
Kapanadze concept was much more advanced but it was very unstable and highly reactive.
Kapanadze was trying to move his device only in vertical axis Y. Walking with it would ruin his show.
I did the same here with placing dielectric on the top of another.
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1174 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1174)
and not to much.

Wesley
Yes, with 12a but not with 12b.
"You may say there is no ground."
"Than think about counterpoise."
"Walking with it would ruin his show."

So, its an inductive coupling from a TX ground coil??
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 05, 2019, 01:28:32 PM
 Definition : Macro Regime and Quantum Regime ! https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19880119&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4720642A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19880119&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
 Definition : Schumann resonances !  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances)
 Pardon me, but let me become ( very, common ?) vulgar/" ordinaer" : Me interests a BS neither which NAME the energy to useable power spectrum has(ZPE,Vacuum,Near/Far, et cet.)   nor how the device ( at first) has to be constructed : common Tesla antenna, flat antenna,mesh/ array,   
 macro-/micro-machinery ..... !

  The first target is to reach a sustainable development aspect bewaring device which shall satisfy the first interests stage : available environmental energy conversion !
 Wesley,  yes resonance is suppressed in the grid network(as to read in the Dinnan/Meta-C papers), but begin to   
 think for example about small fluorescent bulb ballast and their ( "interference, mismatch)net grid distortion and think then bigger : industrial by 100 KW and more electric devices inertia/ inrush voltage or current phase !
 Maxwell- Wien displacement laws ! The comercial world pays for " Blindstrom/ apparent current" compensation !

 Off-grid (" island-solution) we can experiment with all physical possibilities ( caution : chance/ risk ratio ), on grid there are clearly physical and technical ( by concept) restrictions and limitations ! Which has to be respected ! By free will and law !
About Nikola Tesla : a great inventor ( honor : Physics Unit  : Tesla ) for the other side : how had been N. Tesla without the creative partnership with Charles, " Prometeus", Steinmetz ?How many " creative thinker" in the Tesla Labs saw their work later as " INVENTOR : Nicola Tesla, assigned".
                                             Loud thinking without reflex ex(s)pectation
                  "Denkmal des unbekannten Inventors" , Schweigesekunde (Minute , dafuer :P ,zu lang )
                                   DIE S(ch)AU MUSS GO ON ( or OFF)
 
Sincerely
  OCWL

   https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rmerauschen (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/W%C3%A4rmerauschen)           
          Quantentheoretische Erweiterng 
       Boltzmann : What is a " black" what is a " white" body,  STRICT BLACK or STRICT WHITE : dB,nm,eV !
     ( what is in Quantum Physics : body)    "Ultra-Violett"- Katastrophe ,
      is to enter a " Katastrophe"- stage a need , to preserve from ?
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FW%25C3%25A4rmerauschen
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on January 05, 2019, 02:32:00 PM

Hi everyone,


I am curious if kapanadze coil(maybe input coil) itself needs to emit ions during kacher interrupter off state.Akula or someone had mentioned about this few years ago but information stored became fragmented. :'(


After watching Tariel first video taken from bedroom and Akula older device.I noticed that both devices operated from high dc voltage after rectified 220volts main as provided from inverter.


It wouldn't make sense to use high voltage WIMA or microwave oven capacitor after 3 turns from yoke if we are using low voltage 12 or 24volts to power the yoke or toroid.


The last time(few years ago) I tried using rectified dc voltage from 12volts to 220volts inverter using typical pwm generator without kapanadze coil attached and found out after 3..4 turns from my large nanocrystalline toroid  produce around 210Vpp.



Base on recent experiment with div by 3 circuit prev attached-Achieving higher stable frequencies from kapanadze coil after kacher was power on did not produce any high enough voltage <30Vpp to even power up a isolated A/C to dc converter.

This is something to consider why high voltage capacitor was used in the first place.
---------------------------
Screenshot attached from my old video to reveal voltage from 3turns  in which the toroid was powered by high voltage dc supply using pwm circuit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRPKNhC_TE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGRPKNhC_TE)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 05, 2019, 03:07:38 PM
Hi Belfior.
It sounds like you are having a frustrating search finding the G. Kron article. ;)
If you can't find a copy of the article online, you can try going to
a library and see if they can find the article for you. They can check if any libraries
out there have a copy, and can possibly get a copy of the article for you if they can find the
particular publication at a library out there. A university library may be able to help you find it
if a public library can't help you. Give them the following info:
G. Kron, The frustrating search for a geometrical model of electro-dynamic networks.
Tensor (new series), 13, 111 - 128 (1963).

However, Gabriel Kron was by all indications a complete and total propeller head.
Unless you are comfortable with advanced math as applied to complex engineering topics
you may not understand much about what he wrote about in that article, but you never know.
There might be a few interesting tidbits in there that aren't expressed in complex mathematical equations.

Yeah I contacted some sites, that had other The Tensor articles and a university, that has them all. The university has all of them PAST that date, when Kron published his :(

I would like to learn tensor math and systems analysis, but I also have a life. I just want to read what Kron actually said. The other tidbits in Kron's books are pretty interesting like "Maxwell breaks down if the system is moving" and it seems to mean that you get anomalies, if the coils and other components are rotating

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 05, 2019, 04:25:21 PM
I spoke about efficiency of antennas.
We do not care about Far Field We only care about reactive not radiative region,
look at picture; https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/171104/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/171104/image//)
At Schumann resonances (< 30 Hz), the wavelength is > 10,000 Km
Here is  small practical antenna at Schumann bandwidth.

 When series circuit is at resonance both reactive components of impedance  Xc and Xl are out of phase 180  cancel each other. the total current will be E=I*R . R never cancels .
( "phase"  is not,  to say it correctly, a property of reactance itself.) the max signal is out at that given  frequency only (+/- width of the bandwidth)
Impedance is the total opposition to AC current.  !!!! I hope it helps you F6FLT to understand it better.
Ohm’s Law for impedance as : I = E / Z–Symbolized by the letter Z (in Ohms),
includes both Resistance and Reactance (May be stated as a value and angle, i.e.100/_45o–May be stated as R + jX, i.e. 10 + j20)
Some material for F6FLT to read: https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/32fb/ebcb46e2420cef0a1c5e373f4ba4c1067b39.pdf (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/32fb/ebcb46e2420cef0a1c5e373f4ba4c1067b39.pdf)
The shortest antenna sizes used in practice are about 1/10 of a wavelength and they are poor. At Schumann resonances (< 30 Hz), the wavelength is > 10,000 Km.

Here you have below  2m long Schumann frequencies  antenna .
 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 05, 2019, 05:01:25 PM
ELF antenna...  (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency)

These antennas have long been made by hams around the world. You can buy an industrial manufactured such antenna.
The output is very, very weak signal, cannot usable as FE/OU.


https://www.aaronia.com/products/antennas/Magnotracker-ELF-6/ (https://www.aaronia.com/products/antennas/Magnotracker-ELF-6/)
Quote
Internal Amplifier: 25dB (optional 35dB), battery powered (3-4 hours) or continuosly powered via included power supply
(25 dB - is the first preamp stage.)
Work with such an antenna is possible only with the use of several additional low noise amplifiers with a gain of 10,000 or more. And a very good filter is also needed, otherwise nothing except the background of 50 - 60 Hz can be seen.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 05, 2019, 06:09:45 PM
Hi there interesting work but must have cost a lot and you must have spent a lot of time building it too.

Can I just show you an attempt I recently made to do some of Wesly's ideas to see if they work for me
I have used one of my collection of Tesla coils  8) ;D Most of them well all of them tune down to 8hz
one way or another ie 'F' of the coil / by 8 to a whole number no remainder, they all do it. this one I'm showing
here tunes at 1,386,152 Hz / 432 (8 and 9) = 3211
I have yet to rewind the top layer to 90deg  phase shift and retest with my cd4013  phase shift circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 05, 2019, 06:13:39 PM
Ionized gas or water in a glass, distilled or not, all this is equivalent to thick iron nail for microwave.
My last experiments, a radio transparent box with highly purified, distilled and deionized water 10 mm thick of water, covers the waveguide with microwave 22 GHz 200 milliwatts completely. 200 milliwats without water little warms the skin on the fingers. With the water - absolutely nothing on output is detected by the microwave diode, 1 millivolt. The detector diode D606 (USSR) works up to 50 GHz and above.
Without water - diode rectifies 2 volts.
http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/microwave_water.html (http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/microwave_water.html)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 06, 2019, 02:55:11 AM
1.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBH5-oHqzp4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBH5-oHqzp4)
 for your entertainment ,some of you may find it very helpful.
This part is essential to understand Zenneck Wave  later on. But it is in line with  my video
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=385 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=385)

2. http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14182/css/Surface-Wave-76.htm (http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14182/css/Surface-Wave-76.htm)
This is sort of old way to understand  surface wave but very easy  explained .
It points  in fundamental to surface wave vertical polarization.

3. http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/US2017077715A1.pdf
This  PDF is part of http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/corumzenneck.html
The details about how to do it  are to be found in early versions of applications filed by Corum Bros.
 
4.https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=4751515A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=&date=19880614&DB=&locale=
Thanks to our German  friend lancaIV we can easily dig in it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 06, 2019, 05:56:53 AM
YOUR FUTURE and WORLD  FUTURE WITH  CORUM BROS FEW YEARS FROM NOW:

 Patents of Corum; James F. :
do not forget there are two brothers  I have listed only one of them.


1.MODULATED GUIDED SURFACE WAVES      14838852 Aug 28, 2015

2.EMBEDDING DATA ON A POWER SIGNAL    10079573 Sep 8,  2015 patent
electric load of the receiver circuit is modulated with reference to a data signal.

3.FREQUENCY DIVISION MULTIPLEXING FOR WIRELESS POWER PROVIDERS  Sep 9, 2015 10033198 patent.
 for wireless power providers using Zenneck surface waveguide probes to transmit power.

4.CLASSIFICATION OF TRANSMISSION Sep 9, 2015 10027131 patent
assigning authorization  to the user of energy   from Zenneck wave.

5.LOAD SHEDDING IN A GUIDED SURFACE WAVE POWER DELIVERY SYSTEM Aug 22, 2016 10027177  patent
send load shedding instructions to a plurality of user devices. You can be disconnected at any time.

6.ADAPTATION OF POLYPHASE WAVEGUIDE PROBES Sep 9, 2015 10027116 patent
  A probe control system can be used to adjust the polyphase waveguide probe based on characteristic
of therein.

7.GEOLOCATION WITH GUIDED SURFACE WAVES Aug 28, 2015 10001553 patent
  fixing a navigational position using guided surface waves

8.GLOBAL EMERGENCY AND DISASTER TRANSMISSION Sep 8, 20159997040 patent
method for disaster warning recovery including a power modulator.

9.MINIMIZING ATMOSPHERIC DISCHARGE ON A GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62467956Mar 7, 2017 application.
eliminating or minimizing atmospheric discharge within the guided surface waveguide probe.
 Atmospheric discharge can be minimized to a nominal amount according to one or more factors, such as, for example, the use of a corona hood,
the effective diameter of the internal coil, the effective diameter of the tube, and the shape of the charge terminal.
 methods of eliminating Schumann waveguide influence -and we need/(may) to do reverse of it.

10.CHARGE TERMINAL DESIGN FOR GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62467986Mar 7, 2017 application
  guided surface waveguide probe/to launch a guided surface wave/ elevated to a height above the ground/
 structure supports: charge terminal;/one section of internal coil/that is coupled to generator;/
a conductive tube conductively coupled to the at least one section of internal coil at a bottom end,
 and  coupling conductors that extend radially away from a top of the conductive tube to points located on an inner surface of the charge terminal.
That tube is shown  here  in Aleksey Pastuchov patent application: https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=220 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=220) 
with my modification.  and 90  degrees of phase shift is explained in my  video.
 Fig 3. on my video https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=448 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=448)  shows you  original  drawing from Pastukhov

11.ADJUSTMENT OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE OPERATION 62468130 Mar 7, 2017 application.
Disclosed  transmitting and receiving energy device in the form of a guided surface-waveguide mode along the surface of a the ground 
excited by a guided surface waveguide probe.

12.GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE SUPERSTRUCTURE 62468213Mar 7, 2017 application.
structure includes a charge terminal elevated to a first height and a phasing coil elevated to a second height above aground.
/ includes a non-conductive support structure to support the phasing coil and the charge terminal.
 The non-conductive support structure includes a truss frame that supports the phasing coil at the second height above
the lossy conducting medium and supports the charge terminal at the first height above the lossy conducting medium.
The structure further includes a substructure bunker constructed in the lossy conducting medium.
The substructure bunker can include foundational walls, a grounding grid formed in a foundational seal slab, and a
covering support slab at a ground surface elevation of the lossy conducting medium, the covering support slab supporting the non-conductive support structure.

13.GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE WITH INSULATING MATERIAL IN SUPPORT PLATFORM NEAR COIL(S) 62468022Mar 7, 2017 application.
description  similar to previous one.

14. MINIMIZING ATMOSPHERIC DISCHARGE WITHIN A GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62467963 Mar 7, 2017 application
a charge terminal elevated over a lossy conducting medium. The shape of the charge terminal is designed to minimize atmospheric discharge.
A top portion of a coil being configured to provide a voltage to the charge terminal with a phase delay that matches a wave tilt angle associated
 with a complex Brewster angle of incidence associated with the lossy conducting medium is recessed within a hollow region of the charge terminal.
We are looking for interaction  with Schumann waveguide.

15.MEASURING OPERATIONAL PARAMETERS AT THE GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62467979 Mar 7, 2017 application.
Disclosed is an exemplary  of guided surface waveguide probe.,/ the guided surface waveguide probe is made of: 
charge terminal elevated to a height above the lossy conducting medium;
a support structure that supports the charge terminal;
an internal coil that is supported within the support structure and is coupled to an excitation source; a
conductive tube having a first end conductively coupled to the at least one section of internal coil, wherein a second end
of the conductive tube extends vertically towards and is electrically coupled to the charge terminal;
at least one sensor electrically coupled to the charge terminal or the internal coil, wherein the at least one
sensor measures an operational parameter of the guided surface waveguide probe; and a non-conductive
channel connected to the at least one sensor by which data associated with the operational parameter is communicated.

16.SUPPORT STRUCTURE FOR A GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62468163Mar 7, 2017
 I did not include  abstract here. there are many of support structures with drawings.

17.ANCHORING A GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 62467884Mar 7, 2017 application.
waveguide probe can be suspended from a support structure manufactured from a nonconductive material,
 the support structure comprising a plurality of beams. A base bracket is configured to receive at least one of
 the plurality of beams and further comprising a hole. The base bracket rests upon a pad. An anchor bolt protrudes
from the pad through the hole of the base bracket. Also, a fastener engages the anchor bolt to secure the base bracket to the pad.

18.SYSTEM AND METHOD FOR MEASUREMENT OF TEMPERATURE ON A GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE  62468161 Mar 7, 2017 application
he system also comprises a temperature sensor positioned on one of the non-conducting structural components.

19.Detecting Unauthorized Consumption of Electrical Energy  Sep 9, 20159885742 PATENT!!!!!
Aspects of detecting the unauthorized consumption of electrical energy are described. In some embodiments,
 a system includes a guided surface waveguide probe that launches a guided surface wave along a surface of a terrestrial medium.
The system further includes metering systems that are distributed within a geographical region associated with the guided surface waveguide probe.
 The system also includes at least one computing device and memory storing computer instructions that cause the at least
one computing device to generate an energy flow map using data obtained from the metering systems.

20. EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA Sep 10, 2014 9941566 patent.
Disclosed are various embodiments for transmitting energy conveyed in the form of a guided surface-waveguide mode
along the surface of a lossy medium such as, e.g., a terrestrial medium by exciting a guided surface waveguide probe.

21. HIERARCHICAL POWER DISTRIBUTION. Sep 8, 2015 9887557 patent.
 a first guided surface waveguide probe launches a first guided surface wave along a surface of a terrestrial medium
within a first power distribution region. A guided surface wave receive structure obtains electrical energy from the first guided surface wave.
 A second guided surface waveguide probe launches a second guided surface wave along the surface of the
terrestrial medium within a second power distribution region using the electrical energy obtained from the first guided surface wave.

22.EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA Mar 7, 2013 9912031 patent.
 exciting a guided surface waveguide probe to create a plurality of resultant fields that are substantially mode-matched to a Zenneck
 surface wave mode of a surface of a lossy conducting medium.

23.GLOBAL ELECTRICAL POWER MULTIPLICATION Aug 16, 2016 9899718 patent
 a global power multiplier includes first and second guided surface waveguide probes separated by a distance equal to a quarter wavelength
of a defined frequency and configured to launch synchronized guided surface waves along a surface of a lossy conducting medium
 at the defined frequency; and at least one excitation source configured to excite the first and second guided surface waveguide
 probes at the defined frequency, where the excitation of the second guided surface waveguide probe at the defined frequency
is 90 degrees out of phase with respect to the excitation of the first guided surface waveguide probe.
THIS IS EXACTLY ALEKSEY PASTUHOV PATENT APPLICATION!!!!!!!!!!!!! FROM MY VIDEO
 In another example, a method includes launching synchronized guided surface waves along a surface of a lossy
 conducting medium by exciting first and second guided surface waveguide probes to produce a traveling wave propagating along the surface.

24. EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA Mar 7, 2013 9910144 patent.
methods for transmission and reception of electrical energy along a surface of a lossy conducting medium medium.
In one example, a receive circuit is used to receive electrical energy from a guided surface waveguide probe that
transmits the electrical energy in the form of a Zenneck surface wave along a surface of a a lossy conducting medium

25.OBJECT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM AND METHOD 20180175630 A1 June 21, 2018  application.
An object identification system includes a guided surface waveguide probe that produces a guided surface wave;
 and an object identification tag having a receive structure and a tag circuit, the tag circuit coupled to the receive structure
and electrically powered as a load on the probe by conversion of the guided surface wave to electrical current at the receive
structure, the tag circuit configured to emit a return signal containing a tag identifier when electrically powered by presence
of the guided surface wave.

26. OBJECT IDENTIFICATION SYSTEM AND METHOD 20180172798 A1 June 21, 2018 application
this is another one.

26.EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVES  20180166884 A1
June 14, 2018 application.

transmitting and receiving energy conveyed in the form of a guided surface-waveguide mode along the surface of
a lossy medium such as, e.g., a terrestrial medium excited by a guided surface waveguide probe.

27.SITE PREPARATION FOR GUIDED SURFACE WAVE TRANSMISSION IN A LOSSY MEDIA  20180166762 A1  June 14, 2018 application.
Aspects of a guided surface waveguide probe site and the preparation thereof are described. In various embodiments,
the guided surface waveguide probe site may include a propagation interface including a first region and a second region,
and a guided surface waveguide probe configured to launch a guided
surface wave along the propagation interface. In one aspect of the embodiments, at least a portion of the first region
may be prepared to more efficiently launch or propagate the guided surface wave.
Among embodiments, the portion of the first region, which may be composed of the Earth, may be treated or mixed
with salt, gypsum, sand, or gravel, for example, among other compositions of matter.
In other embodiments, the portion of the first region may be covered, insulated, irrigated, or temperature-controlled,
for example. By preparing the site, a guided surface wave may be more efficiently launched and/or propagated.

28.VARIABLE FREQUENCY RECEIVERS FOR GUIDED SURFACE WAVE TRANSMISSIONS 20180159374 A1 June 7, 2018 application

guided surface waveguide probe and a guided surface wave receiver, where the guided surface wave receiver comprises
 processing circuitry that (a) identifies at least one frequency from a plurality of available frequencies associated with a
transmission of Zenneck surface waves along a terrestrial medium, and (b) adjusts a frequency at which the guided
surface wave receiver receives electrical energy from the Zenneck surface waves via the terrestrial medium to a predetermined frequency.

29. CHEMICALLY ENHANCED ISOLATED CAPACITANCE
20180159339A1   June 7, 2018   application
transmitting energy conveyed in the form of a guided surface waveguide mode along the surface of a lossy conducting
medium such as, e.g., a terrestrial medium by exciting a guided surface waveguide probe. In one embodiment,
compensation is provided to elevate isolated capacitance of a terminal of the waveguide probe in the form of mounted charge devices.

30.ENHANCED GUIDED SURFACE WAVEGUIDE PROBE 20180151934 A1
May 31, 2018  application.

31.SUPERPOSITION OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVES ON LOSSY MEDIA 20180151933 A1 May 31, 2018
, Zenneck surface waves are launched along a surface of a lossy conducting medium using an array of guided
surface waveguide probes and a predefined field pattern of the Zenneck surface waves is maintained.
The individual ones of the guided surface waveguide probes include a feed network electrically coupled to a charge terminal.
The feed network provides a phase delay that matches a wave tilt angle associated with a complex
Brewster angle of incidence associated with the lossy conducting medium.
32.CHANGING GUIDED SURFACE WAVE TRANSMISSIONS TO FOLLOW LOAD CONDITIONS 20180145540 A1 May 24, 2018 application

guided surface waveguide transmit system includes a guided surface waveguide probe configured to transmit a
guided surface wave along a lossy conducting medium. The system further includes a controller device configured
to receive load status data and signal for the guided surface waveguide probe to adjust transmission of the guided
surface wave based at least in part on the load status
data.

33. RETURN COUPLED WIRELESS POWER TRANSMISSION 20180138753A1 
May 17, 2018 application.

a system includes a guided surface waveguide probe including a charge terminal elevated at a height over a
lossy conducting medium, and a feed network. The system further includes a conductor coupled to the guided
surface waveguide probe that extends a distance away from the guided surface waveguide probe across the lossy
conducting medium, and at least one guided surface wave receivers coupled to the conductor. The a system includes
a guided surface waveguide probe including a charge terminal elevated at a height over a lossy conducting medium, and
a feed network. The system further includes a conductor coupled to the guided surface waveguide probe that extends a distance
away from the guided surface waveguide probe across the lossy conducting medium, and at least one guided surface wave receivers
 coupled to the conductor. The conductor can help to provide additional efficiency in power transfer between the guided surface waveguide
 probe and the guided surface wave receivers, especially when the operating frequency of the probe is in the medium, high, or very high frequency
 ranges.conductor can help to provide additional efficiency in power transfer between the guided surface waveguide probe and the guided surface
wave receivers, especially when the operating frequency of the probe is in the medium, high, or very high frequency ranges.

34.WIRED AND WIRELESS POWER DISTRIBUTION COEXISTENCE 20180138720 A1 May 17, 2018
 distribute power across various regions. Power from a power plant can be distributed to sub-transmission stations.
For example, a transmission probe can be configured to launch a transmission frequency guided surface wave
for power transmission over a transmission region. A sub-transmission station can receive the transmission
frequency guided surface wave. A sub-transmission probe can be configured to launch a sub-transmission
frequency guided surface wave to transmit power over a sub-transmission region to transmit power.
 A distribution station can receive the power from the sub-transmission frequency guided surface wave. it is to shut down  entire region including your cellphone
by Viziv.

35.Guided Surface Wave Transmission of Multiple Frequencies in a Lossy Media 20180138719 A1 May 17, 2018   application

various embodiments for transmitting energy at multiple frequencies via a guided surface wave along the surface of a lossy medium such as, e.g.,
a terrestrial medium by exciting a guided surface waveguide probe.

36.SIMULTANEOUS MULTIFREQUENCY RECEIVE CIRCUITS 20180123343 A1 May 3, 2018  application
various receive circuits by which to receive a plurality of guided surface waves transmitted by a plurality of guided surface
waveguide probes over a surface of a terrestrial medium according to various
embodiments.

37.Field Strength Monitoring for Optimal Performance 20180106845 A1 April 19, 2018 application.

various embodiments for adjusting an operational parameter of a guided surface waveguide probe according to measurements
received from one or more measuring devices. A measuring device measures the conditions associated with an environment of the
measuring device. The measuring devices communicates the measured data to the guided surface waveguide probe.
Adjustments can be made to one or more operational parameters of the guided surface waveguide probe according to the measured data.
This is  the way to limit you and request you to obey requests .( of the authority)

38.HYBRID GUIDED SURFACE WAVE COMMUNICATION 20180034502 A1 February 1, 2018
hybrid communication in which a first message from a guided surface wave probe
node is embedded in a guided surface wave, and a second message from a guided surface wave receive node
uses a different messaging mechanism.

39.MEASURING AND REPORTING POWER RECEIVED FROM GUIDED SURFACE WAVES 20180031619 A1 February 1, 2018
various approaches for measuring and reporting the amount of electrical power consumed by an electrical load
attached to a guided surface wave receive structure. A guided surface wave receive structure is configured to obtain electrical
energy from a guided surface wave traveling along a terrestrial medium. An electrical load is coupled to the guided surface wave receive
structure, the electrical load being experienced as a load at an excitation source coupled to a guided surface waveguide probe generating
the guided surface wave. An electric power meter coupled to the electrical load and configured to measure the electrical load.



Wesley

expression of may personal opinion only according, to US constitution.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 06, 2019, 12:14:55 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep01.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/afep01.htm)
What they saw 1999 as success and why is this now 20 years " dormant" ?Somebody knows this guy named Stefan Hartmann ?  ::)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 06, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
Lanca..maybe ask him to comment [find the thread here somewhere and Ping it?
just a note ,our friend Ernst has written a book [I understand limited release] here

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1793151040

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 06, 2019, 08:50:05 PM
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/US2017077715A1.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/US2017077715A1.pdf)


Wesley


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 06, 2019, 09:19:15 PM

EMP-warshttp://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3706385&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3706385&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
EMP= Pc+ Pi
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 07, 2019, 03:58:30 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole)
k.i. s.s.  :-* keep ...... METHODIK

Many questions,  kinetikal Stephen Hawking space related,  and resolution trial :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Pavel+imris&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Pavel+imris&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 07, 2019, 06:46:59 PM



https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7139133/keywords#keywords (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7139133/keywords#keywords)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 07, 2019, 07:31:07 PM
#2
 Lines  expressed in vectors “A” shows polarization
of the ground field necessary for lunching surface wave known as Zenneck Wave.
This   wave  can carry on  electrical energy to the  receiver //anywhere in the world.
It may be used for internet , telephony,switching on of  devices, geolocation similar to GPS.
Powering  electric vehicles in motion and as punishment tool  by  government by restricting access
selectively to appliances and services.
e.g.
 1. an individual who has  refrigerator may have it disconnected for unpaid in time credit cart 

2. electric cars  may have battery allowing them to drive  1 mile and message in his vehicle \may tell them to stop at exit 123
or his car will be disconnected for driving violation that happened 5 minutes ago.
messing with ID code may be  punished by law.

for reference:
US Patent 2017/0077715 A1 Authentication to enable/disable Guided  wave  receive  equipment
James F. Corum


-expected to be implemented  in ~5 years from now,.

Wesley
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USA
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 07, 2019, 08:15:22 PM
#3
US2017077616 (A1) ― 2017-03-16

Wesley.
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USA

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 07, 2019, 08:22:52 PM
#4.
 methods of tuning structure from  above:
Original document: US2017077616 (A1) ― 2017-03-16

Wesley
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USA
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 07, 2019, 08:53:49 PM
#5
methods of tuning structure:
explanation of mirror image  in the  ground created by impedances above of the ground.
means of underground waveguide.

Normally Zenneck wave is in the interface   between ground and air.
for more explanation please read original patent.


Original document: US2017077616 (A1) ― 2017-03-16

Wesley
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USA 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 07, 2019, 09:01:58 PM
https://www.minotech.de/forschung/raumenergiekonverter/kapanadze-konverter/?mobile=1 (https://www.minotech.de/forschung/raumenergiekonverter/kapanadze-konverter/?mobile=1)

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minotech.de%2Fforschung%2Fraumenergiekonverter%2Fkapanadze-konverter%2F%3Fmobile%3D1 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.minotech.de%2Fforschung%2Fraumenergiekonverter%2Fkapanadze-konverter%2F%3Fmobile%3D1)

written:   Tellus= Erd-Teller/Erd-Scheibe =Earth/Erde     
               " Erde"  phon : aers'e~ Erz(Mineralgestein/mineral core/ earth rock like granit, but also ground )                                                                             
                  vulgar: AErde ( soft "d" like th and hard " d" like t  problem)

              a.   Erd(e)-       b. Strahlung  =   a. earth/ telluric   b.  radiation or current

  https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRadi%25C3%25A4sthesie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRadi%25C3%25A4sthesie)


              (Manfred)  Curry ( Diagonal)  Gitter
              (Ernst)  Hartmann Gitter

                       "Tellurmeter": Radiation meter/measure instrument
                    https://www.minotech.de/forschung/technik-projekte/tellurmeter/ (https://www.minotech.de/forschung/technik-projekte/tellurmeter/)

        http://www.norbertmoch.de/_physik_technik_kosmologie/nikola_tesla.htm (http://www.norbertmoch.de/_physik_technik_kosmologie/nikola_tesla.htm)           

                                                     Tariel Kapanadze
                         
                 2009: demonstration KapaGen with 100 KW , output Halogenlamps
                                                                                           QUESTION 1
                                                                                 "100 KW", pure or pulsed KWp ?
     
                 http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/ (http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/)    about measuring :Pulse Power
                                 15 KW power ~  average 144 W pulse power


                          http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/ (http://jnaudin.free.fr/kapagen/)
               2010 JLN experiments max.  efficiency : 96%
                             QUESTION 2
      " efficiency" definition like by a transformer measuring or efficiency like a "free energy converting" solarcell ?

Analysis by step-by-step
Stop for today

Sollen wir nun auch in Polnisch communizieren, Wesley/forest ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 07, 2019, 10:40:54 PM
I see no reason to think Kapanadze's device is related to 'Schumann Resonances', but
anything is possible I suppose. For those who are interested, here is some info on it:

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/gallery/schumann-resonance.html
"Schumann Resonance
At any given moment about 2,000 thunderstorms roll over Earth, producing some 50 flashes of lightning every second. Each lightning burst creates electromagnetic waves that begin to circle around Earth captured between Earth's surface and a boundary about 60 miles up. Some of the waves - if they have just the right wavelength - combine, increasing in strength, to create a repeating atmospheric heartbeat known as Schumann resonance. This resonance provides a useful tool to analyze Earth's weather, its electric environment, and to even help determine what types of atoms and molecules exist in Earth's atmosphere.

The waves created by lightning do not look like the up and down waves of the ocean, but they still oscillate with regions of greater energy and lesser energy. These waves remain trapped inside an atmospheric ceiling created by the lower edge of the "ionosphere" - a part of the atmosphere filled with charged particles, which begins about 60 miles up into the sky. In this case, the sweet spot for resonance requires the wave to be as long (or twice, three times as long, etc) as the circumference of Earth. This is an extremely low frequency wave that can be as low as 8 Hertz (Hz) - some one hundred thousand times lower than the lowest frequency radio waves used to send signals to your AM/FM radio. As this wave flows around Earth, it hits itself again at the perfect spot such that the crests and troughs are aligned. Voila, waves acting in resonance with each other to pump up the original signal.

While they'd been predicted in 1952, Schumann resonances were first measured reliably in the early 1960s. Since then, scientists have discovered that variations in the resonances correspond to changes in the seasons, solar activity, activity in Earth's magnetic environment, in water aerosols in the atmosphere, and other Earth-bound phenomena."


Graphs of Schumann resonance frequency power levels from magnetometers located at various locations around the world:
https://www.heartmath.org/gci/gcms/live-data/gcms-magnetometer/
"The Schumann Resonances Power graph summarizes the information presented in the Spectrogram Calendar and illustrates the dynamic changes occurring in the Schumann Resonances region of the magnetic field. Power is the sum of the power in all frequencies detected by the site magnetometer from 0.32 to 36 Hertz and is calculated for every hour. A 24-hour moving average of this power data is plotted for each site and updated hourly."
Magnetometer locations:
GCI001 California, USA GCI002 Hofuf, Saudi Arabia GCI003 Lithuania GCI004 Alberta, Canada GCI005 Northland, New Zealand GCI006 Hluhluwe, South Africa


And attached are a couple of drawings depicting Tesla's ideas on wireless power transmission
around the world, which were said to be drawn by Tesla himself in 1925 in a memo (I don't know if that is accurate).

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 08, 2019, 12:50:54 AM
Hi Wesley. I got those diagrams from this site:
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/diagram-teslas-wireless-power-system
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/tesla-small-scale-model-wireless-power-system-using-surface-earth-conductor
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: iflewmyown on January 08, 2019, 02:37:55 AM
Wesley, have you seen this?
http://www.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/253765/summary.html?query=+253765&start=1&num=50&type=basic_search
Old patent to broadcast 500 kHz. signal on long antenna and receive more power back from earth.
Thanks for all your info and staying power. Don't let the trolls distract you.
Garry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2019, 06:40:27 AM
Hi Wesley. I got those diagrams from this site:
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/diagram-teslas-wireless-power-system (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/diagram-teslas-wireless-power-system)
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/tesla-small-scale-model-wireless-power-system-using-surface-earth-conductor (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/images/tesla-small-scale-model-wireless-power-system-using-surface-earth-conductor)
This is what that  old picture represent.
I did it  because  I was testing my new version of the program used before.
The interesting part of it is that part of inner foil ring connected to coil and capacitor is actively resonating making parallel resonance circuit.
But because rest of the same ring( the bigger part of it)  is also connected to coil and capacitor than coil and capacitor is
acting as a bridge  affecting balance between the two "halves".
This is definitely valid concept.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 08, 2019, 07:22:00 AM
This is what that  old picture represent.
I did it  because  I was testing my new version of the program used before.
The interesting part of it is that part of inner foil ring connected to coil and capacitor is actively resonating making parallel resonance circuit.
But because rest of the same ring( the bigger part of it)  is also connected to coil and capacitor than coil and capacitor is
acting as a bridge  affecting balance between the two "halves".
This is definitely valid concept.
Wesley

Hi Wesley. Nice drawing. To me it looks like the outer ring is not connected to the inner ring,
but Tesla shows an electrostatic field linking the two rings. It is a very interesting setup, and quite large.
It is quite similar in some ways to what they call a magnetic loop antenna these days, but the magnetic loop
antenna doesn't have the outer ring.
All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 08, 2019, 10:37:36 AM
Hi Wesley. Nice drawing. To me it looks like the outer ring is not connected to the inner ring,
but Tesla shows an electrostatic field linking the two rings. It is a very interesting setup, and quite large.
It is quite similar in some ways to what they call a magnetic loop antenna these days, but the magnetic loop
antenna doesn't have the outer ring.
All the best...

there are many variations of a magnetic loop antenna. and yes also with 2 loops if you want so, and many others like made from coax with ore without matching transformer externnal ore transformation just made with 2 diffent loops sices .. depanding on the band you like to work.
How ever .. i postet some pages bevor a link about  voltage and current distribution in such struktures .. well worth to spend a little thinking about.

best regards Jo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 08, 2019, 04:08:11 PM
there are many variations of a magnetic loop antenna. and yes also with 2 loops if you want so,

Hi Jo, yes, I am familiar with the magnetic loop antenna. However, the Tesla drawing doesn't show a loop with
more than one turn, it shows the second larger outer loop not connected to the inner loop, but the inner loop
is almost as large as the outer loop. That is a little different. The drawing also indicates that the two ends of
the coil assembly are 'grounded', I believe, but they are attached to the inner loop, so not sure if that means the
inner loop is grounded or what is meant there.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2019, 07:02:29 PM
#6

ONE OF ELEMENTS  FOR UNDERSTANDING ENERGY EXTRACTION from Schumann waveguide AS  WELL AS ENERGY TRANSMISSION IS POLYPHASE
 book about Tesla.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/39272.epub.images?session_id=634b29fc2d9110f7c01fa58c1797857b4b3f2327 (http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/39272.epub.images?session_id=634b29fc2d9110f7c01fa58c1797857b4b3f2327)
click  on CHAPTER IV.
Modifications and Expansions of the Tesla Polyphase Systems.
Although  it  talks about generators it gives you  understanding what is polyphase.
part  of this book that interests us is
Quote
The Inventions, Researches and Writings of Nikola Tesla: With Special Reference to His Work in Polyphase Currents and High Potential Lighting
=============================================================================
 see drawing (below)
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2 (http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2)
The distribution of electrical power by means of terrestrial cavity resonator modes
James F. Corum, Ph.D
*
Associate Professor
Department of Electrical Engineering
West Virginia University
MORGANTOWN West Virginia 26506-6101
United States of America * now: Senior Research Scientist
Battelle Memorial Institute
505 King Avenue
COLUMBUS, Ohio 43201-2693
United States of America
The reason that I brought this article to your attention is that in 80ties  he took  work  listed  at article right below

of:

High altitude Project Tesla transmitter, Leadville, Colorado
A quarter-wave coaxial cavity as a power processing plant
Mark Nash, James Smith, Robert Craven

339 Engineering Sciences Building
West Virginia University
MORGANTOWN, West Virginia 26506
United States of America

and implemented to his patent applications. By means of patent laws known  knowledge can not be patented.
So as much as we may respect Mr.Corum he may lose his patent rights because of that the very fundamental  part of his intellectual  property.
Please read it and try to understand it




Picture #7
Resonance
The phenomenon of the resonant rise on a transmission line, and in any cavity resonator, is physically due to coherent reflection of forward and backward
traveling waves occurring at critically spaced terminating surfaces.
The occurrence of standing waves, or stationary field distributions, is common to all
resonators and is indeed the mechanism by which energy storage and voltage, current and impedance transformation are realized in distributed circuits. The simple field distributions of most cavity resonators share great qualitative, and indeed some analytic similarities with the standing waves present on
transmission line resonators.
A thorough conceptual appreciation of the phenomenon of resonant rise may be obtained from consideration of a vector
diagram representation of the incident (E1) and reflected (E2) waves on a resonant length of line. Figure 2 shows the familiar sinusoidal voltage
distribution associated with the open circuited lossless resonant line and the resulting phases of the two waves at different points in the distribution (2).
Under lossless conditions the load reflection coefficient is unity with zero phase angle and the load impedance is infinite. As a result, the incident and
reflected waves have equal magnitudes at the load, and the reflection occurs such that the resulting phases of the two waves are also the same.
As the figure demonstrates, this phenomenon yields a terminal point voltage that is the arithmetic sum of the incident and reflected components.

Wesley
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2019, 08:47:55 PM
#7
section #7
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2 (http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2)
go down of the page till you see pictures from below.

along the bottom of the picture 7( original picture 2) you  see sinewave.
This is how we start to create SW surface wave.
First we need  vertically polarized wave in space between  air and earth.

Figure 2. Vector Diagram representation of the incident and reflected voltage waveforms on resonant transmission lines (2)
The criteria for resonance is inherent in the spatial voltage distribution and requires the voltage maximum and minimum be separated by one quarter wavelength.
This means that regardless of the loading, the system must be, electrically, ninety degrees long.
This can be easily demonstrated with a Smith chart analysis of the capacitively loaded
 resonator.

Wesley

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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2019, 08:54:43 PM
#8
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2 (http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0envl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL1.4&d=HASHa4422b7fbbfa2350e1c317.3&gt=2)
go down of the page till you see pictures from below.

Foreshortened Coaxial Resonator
The example presented in this paper to illustrate the coaxial cavity resonator is a discharge device where the potential for discharge is built up in a spherical capacitor.
It is appropriate to show how this capacitive load will change the operating parameters at the resonator. Numerical values presented are appropriate for the demonstration model.
The material presented comes from published work (3) and is in part the result of mutual theoretical development conducted by the authors and
Dr. F. Corum on this research project. (Some of this material will also be found in the monograph "Vacuum Tube Tesla Coils" by James F. Corum and Kenneth L. Corum).
For the capacitivly loaded transmission line, the length at resonance will be less than a quarter wavelength long due to the change in the angle of the reflection coefficient at the load end.The result of this change
is that the line is not only physically shortened but that stationary >/4 sinusoidal field distribution is effectively shortened.

Figure 3 ( is the figure first on the top)
shows the comparison between the unloaded and loaded distributions.Lumped Equivalent Example Consider the resonator shown in Fig. 4 ( is the second from the top)with its equivalent transmission line model.
The capacitance of the sphere must be calculated and the load parameters evaluated.
Figure 4. The capacitively top loaded coaxial cavity and its equivalent transmission line circuit for Smith chart analysis. The capacitance to ground of an isolated sphere is given below and may be used as a reasonable approximation for the top loaded sphere. C sphere = 4 pe o r (m) ( 8) Where r(m) = radius in meters Thus C top = 5.65 pF

Wesley
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2019, 09:41:40 PM
#9
RF Power Processing The first individual in the literature to realize that the RF resonant systems might be used to advantage in the processing (or transformation)
of large electrical energies for engineering applications was Nikola Tesla. He first developed the "distributed helical resonator" strictly as a means of generating high
voltages and the resulting spectacular discharges for which he is famous.
He completed extensive empirical testing and optimization of this structure during the late 1890's and proposed a variety of possible applications including wireless

transmission of power and the concept of directed energy weapons.
When examining Tesla's Colorado Springs Device as a model for a power processing system four basic processes can be observed.

The conversion of power from 60 Hz to RF; the transformation by pulse modulation to high peak power and variable duty factor;
the input coupling system; and the output couple to the load,
Figure 6. These block components may be implemented by standard RF
in a variety of ways depending on the magnitude of the powers to be processed and the desired efficiency.
The blocks comprising the resonator have been developed in the preceding sections and only the source considerations remain to be considered.
Tesla implemented pulse moderation via a special breakwheel.
As the break occurs and the spark is quenched
(Tesla used a magnetic field and forced-air to quench the spark quickly).
The high voltage transformer reactance is reintroduced across the primary
tank detuning it to lower the "Q pri" and reduce the impedance which is coupled into the secondary.
The secondary, which is now free of the loading of the ringing primary, now rings at its self resonant frequency (f sec) which is identical to that of the extra coil
where the voltage (V sec) is stepped by resonant rise (VSWR). The primary capacitance (C p) is recharged during the break interval.

This pulse is  the manifestation of concentrated energy that can be pumped into the surface wave lunched in interface between  earth and air.
Not only energy in uniform form can be transferred to that earth air  interface but it can be used for :

military operations.

In place of incident,  receiver may be placed and that receiver may convert that particular impulse to..........
However that is one of many options.
Collision of two or more conflicting  surface waves exactly at 90  degrees in phase do not need anything but single piece
of conductive structure  or conductive/dielectric sandwich ,   acting as receiver .
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1187

That "may" be:
"piece of pipe or metal rod or structure that at given point start to resonate and acts like receiver in resonance.
By that any  structure "able to respond" can be affected by changing  frequency gradually up till critical  point  of resonance is reached.
It is unfortunate that
 "any time" activated B -
can be build along any structure  during their construction period  and years later  activated when needed.
Another application of SW  is  to  "possibly"  provide an active spying on anyone in any time and in any place right now today.


Despite  of how reliable is speculation about Tesla involvement in so called
http://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm (http://www.teslasociety.com/tunguska.htm)
was there is real application of surface wave in this area.



Wesley
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 09, 2019, 12:32:54 AM
Hello Wesley , in small you have this concept as Tate Ambient Power Modul
and about RF conversion to electromotive force an old french invention, anno 1920 poste domini :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19210709&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19210709&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
Do not want to disturb

A good night wishing ( Venezuela?  Okay,  have a nice day)

OCWL

http://www.leedskalnin.com/CookElectroMagneticBattery.html (http://www.leedskalnin.com/CookElectroMagneticBattery.html)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lecher_line
 + " knode " + Kirchhoff----------------------------------------------------
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/erich-bieramperl
http://www.sensortime.com/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on January 09, 2019, 01:41:40 AM
Nikola Tesla used a high speed mercury switch to enable his impulse energy. This is subsequent to the magnetic and air quenched spark gaps.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/0613735.pdf

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2019, 04:06:55 AM
#10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ATzLkr9JXk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ATzLkr9JXk)

https://youtu.be/ypMX2htnyWE?t=149 (https://youtu.be/ypMX2htnyWE?t=149) at the first minute of this video   anomaly is reported.
but video opens  from given time. So  you need to back.
We need to notice that  narrator is completely uneducated  in  surface wave and  the only important  in this video is his comment about Corum Bros.,
The rest of it is garbage.
=============================================================================================
Yet this is another way to explain phenomena of surface wave to fully understand what it is.
2.  Wave localization in a random medium
at p-age 7.

Bragg scattering in a periodic medium
http://web.mit.edu/1.138j/www/material/chap-5.pdf (http://web.mit.edu/1.138j/www/material/chap-5.pdf)
In this paper both  mechanical and electromagnetic phenomena obey the same principals.
Bragg resonance and Bragg scattering are the phenomena explaining creation of surface wave and surface wave interface response.
Used in military for surveillance.
In radars for pinpoint location of bigger than mechanical wave  of the ocean objects. 
Can/may  be applied to  flat paces in Arizona Texas spotting  illegal emigrants.
So the similarity to Zenneck wave is that in patent pending literature both use the same referrals.

http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/elektrik/issues/elk-10-18-3/elk-18-3-5-0912-331.pdf (http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/elektrik/issues/elk-10-18-3/elk-18-3-5-0912-331.pdf)
Bragg resonance
Quote
You can show that at one or several fixed frequency and fixed angle values you get a very strong reflection. That is Bragg resonance
One of applications of technology is to employ surface  waves to do "the same".
https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/hfswr (https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/hfswr)

=================================================================================================
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html (http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html)
this is easy history of Zenneck  surface wave.

Wesley
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2019, 07:01:08 AM
#11
 Frequency vs roughness of the terrain .

Wesley
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 09, 2019, 08:23:45 AM
Sorry wesley thats all way over the fence and leads to nothing

in short https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pglHXorTJlc
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 09, 2019, 09:26:46 AM
Good morning! I think Kapanadze type device can work only because all electric grid "earthing" is connected with water-earth. It is stealing from that line. For good stealing of electricity we need 1. Very good buried rod to the "see level"(where thick copper mesh is laying in the water). 2. We need "resonator" tuned to 50Hz in East and 60Hz in the West. Coil is "matrjoshka type" inside/outside combined bifilar/inductor type resonant Current amplification device. All tuned to Main Frequency. 3. We need "fake" second pole. It is grounded "volga" type buried in the ground car radiator in Kapanadze video. 4. All system work in the principles of 50Hz Magnetic Field to Current type Amplification device which Magnify Magnetic field which is presented in the Water surfaces of the World. Spark/Inductor is Key to Success. Without Spark we can't realise that. 20 meters of wire is for pole's creation. In fact it is Amplifiere. Be happy!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 09, 2019, 09:41:59 AM
Good morning! I think Kapanadze type device can work only because all electric grid "earthing" is connected with water-earth. It is stealing from that line. For good stealing of electricity we need 1. Very good buried rod to the "see level"(where thick copper mesh is laying in the water). 2. We need "resonator" tuned to 50Hz in East and 60Hz in the West. Coil is "matrjoshka type" inside/outside combined bifilar/inductor type resonant Current amplification device. All tuned to Main Frequency. 3. We need "fake" second pole. It is grounded "volga" type buried in the ground car radiator in Kapanadze video. 4. All system work in the principles of 50Hz Magnetic Field to Current type Amplification device which Magnify Magnetic field which is presented in the Water surfaces of the World. Spark/Inductor is Key to Success. Without Spark we can't realise that. 20 meters of wire is for pole's creation. In fact it is Amplifiere. Be happy!

A simple Tesla coil refutes your answer.

You guess if you know ? because you write that you guess.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 09, 2019, 09:49:23 AM
There is no Free Energy. You must understand that. But, there is 50/60Hz Magnetic Field across the World. That's it! And yes, that what I am wright here is mine opinion. I discussed that in Skype conference/chat room. I think about Kapanadze device about 15 years from now. It is what I see. You can see it different. It is your World!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 09, 2019, 09:49:44 AM
Good morning! I think Kapanadze type device can work only because all electric grid "earthing" is connected with water-earth. It is stealing from that line. For good stealing of electricity we need 1. Very good buried rod to the "see level"(where thick copper mesh is laying in the water). 2. We need "resonator" tuned to 50Hz in East and 60Hz in the West. Coil is "matrjoshka type" inside/outside combined bifilar/inductor type resonant Current amplification device. All tuned to Main Frequency. 3. We need "fake" second pole. It is grounded "volga" type buried in the ground car radiator in Kapanadze video. 4. All system work in the principles of 50Hz Magnetic Field to Current type Amplification device which Magnify Magnetic field which is presented in the Water surfaces of the World. Spark/Inductor is Key to Success. Without Spark we can't realise that. 20 meters of wire is for pole's creation. In fact it is Amplifiere. Be happy!
Please provide a schematic of your idea.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 09, 2019, 10:00:22 AM
.Hoppy If you think about it there must be FREE energy to gain with scalar waves because of the way Tesla says it works
and what Tesla says is what Wesly showed in the Rusky guy Andrey Pastukhpv showed in the original video with his LED's as the wave travels it ionizes charge carriers
thus amplifying the original that was transmitted it's in that video ! everything else is out of reach.

You must have also seen those people who use smoke to send out smoke rings ! is it a wave or a punch?

Joke isn't a good I'd dear, an old lady with 20/20 vision? keep eating the carrots. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 09, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
There is no Free Energy. You must understand that. But, there is 50/60Hz Magnetic Field across the World. That's it! And yes, that what I am wright here is mine opinion. I discussed that in Skype conference/chat room. I think about Kapanadze device about 15 years from now. It is what I see. You can see it different. It is your World!

If I put a 10m rod into the ground, will I see the 50Hz phase there? It depends on where this rod will be.
Near the high-voltage pole (transformer), the resistive meter shows a value of 0.5A.
Kapanadze claimed that he did not need grounding. The device can even be in the car. Grounding is needed for two-phase systems.

I think to do what you say I would need:
1. Grounding
2. Phase 50 Hz
3. Large KV potential with 50Hz phase
4. modulation and output coils

A Kapanadze device came out to us.
Did the people from Turkey 100Kw understand that their meters are standing still but the power plant sees a drop in power? that is the question !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 09, 2019, 12:30:29 PM
Answer is in the "water pipe". You guys remember how Kapanadze and Gia drink and touch "water pipe" and tell - There is nothing!!!!! Lie's! For Amplitude Current we know about "nature of the AC". It have Minimum and Maximum. In One wire, there is 2 states of "nature" of AC Current. Why it is not killing us? Because of separation between Electro Magnetism and "condactivity"... Water have EM nature, but 1 single wire cant produce Current! That is it!
It is from my chat in Skype. It is for educational purpocess only.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 09, 2019, 01:14:03 PM
Answer is in the "water pipe". You guys remember how Kapanadze and Gia drink and touch "water pipe" and tell - There is nothing!!!!! Lie's! For Amplitude Current we know about "nature of the AC". It have Minimum and Maximum. In One wire, there is 2 states of "nature" of AC Current. Why it is not killing us? Because of separation between Electro Magnetism and "condactivity"... Water have EM nature, but 1 single wire cant produce Current! That is it!
It is from my chat in Skype. It is for educational purpocess only.

To be sure, you need to build such a layout, otherwise it's just guesses.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on January 09, 2019, 02:20:58 PM
Hi Wesley,
Using nature to demystify science eg:longitudinal waveform(Tesla HV interrupted pulse)-

I have attached waveform from a Electric Eel in order to correlate longitudinal waveform occurring in nature eg:Earthquake.This is also one of the least studied waveform.
Electric eel uses "interrupted HV pulse" to shock it's prey in water a lossy medium.Earth is also a lossy medium.
Merely using nature to present facts.Tesla was one of the first to implement interrupted pulse for his Tesla coil project.

This is to justify -Interrupted pulse  is indeed creating/emulating longitudinal waveform.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 09, 2019, 02:35:46 PM
http://www.noisescanner.com/ (http://www.noisescanner.com/)    or google ( or other search machines)  : nearfield holography

https://www.google.com/search?q=nearfield+holography&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

  sound camera   http://decibel-or.bruit.fr/ (http://decibel-or.bruit.fr/)          d(ezi) B(el)/dB - Technology
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on January 09, 2019, 03:13:05 PM
Tesla coil described as distributed transmission line circuit model by Corum Bros

http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Corum/Corum-Tesla_Coils_and_the_Failure_of_Lumped-Element_Circuit_Theory.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
#11.

There is no other way but first understand what you dealing with  and how it works and than, you  can play with it, make money on it, or even damage  someone else  business with it.
Surface wave in general can  have many forms.
( like humans white, black, yellow /// and they have their  specific to each of the groups general behavior)
Some special conditions of surface wave are: modes  like TE - Transverse electric , TM - transverse magnetic.


1. Electromagnetic waves
are transverse.
2. Longitudinal  wave
has nothing  to do with electromagnetic  transverse wave, but can be in form  of  mechanical transverse wave.
 
By that  we can  use mechanical   wave behavior to explain, the very same mechanisms in quantum physics.
So in  surface wave  it helps for these who wants to understand quantum phenomena if we use classical physics as an example.

Mechanical wave behavior of surface wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNbwCUA6VVs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNbwCUA6VVs)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3cTFrHqjv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3cTFrHqjv8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhMrwQHvFo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFhMrwQHvFo)

Because Propagation of Seismic Waves: Rayleigh waves is mentioned in Corum bros patents  I attached  simulation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXgfYHAS7c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yXgfYHAS7c)


Wesley
Legal note: this is expression of may personal opinion only according to constitution of
USA
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2019, 03:51:42 PM
Who is Texzon  :

 https://www.electricchoice.com/blog/timeline-history-energy-deregulation/ (https://www.electricchoice.com/blog/timeline-history-energy-deregulation/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T-QYv-zlrQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T-QYv-zlrQ)
So talking about Viziv  we rather should talk  about Texzon
.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4u_8s0uT1luS6Sgm1DBtjQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4u_8s0uT1luS6Sgm1DBtjQ)
--------------------------------------------------------

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 09, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
To be sure, you need to build such a layout, otherwise it's just guesses.

Single wire can't produce current? What natural law is that?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 09, 2019, 04:11:39 PM
Single wire can't produce current? What natural law is that?

Think again.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 09, 2019, 05:14:46 PM
Think again.

Well I have seen a lamp lit on the end of a single wire. You can give me all the explanations about surface waves and what not, but there must be current going through the lamp

So reality is that the lamp lights up. how can you make that disappear with an equation and second law of thermodynamics?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 09, 2019, 05:58:26 PM
Well I have seen a lamp lit on the end of a single wire. You can give me all the explanations about surface waves and what not, but there must be current going through the lamp

So reality is that the lamp lights up. how can you make that disappear with an equation and second law of thermodynamics?
a. wireless by RF ? b.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube)  similar "Resonator -tube " electrostatic process?

                      A coil view a. by eyes 1:1, by 1:10, 1:100,1:1000, .........micro-scale scopic view : change?
                                                 

                                                    particle/ coil inner structure( holes,channels) ,

                           particle de-/ formation 3d- volume( not quantity !)/ velocity/ mass- relativity
                                             
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2019, 07:27:45 PM
http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/fep01.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/fep01.htm)
 "MUST BE POWERED BY A BATTERY SOURCE"

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on January 10, 2019, 07:16:32 PM
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 10, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
Re a patent and American Laws ,giving a true FE device [in writing]to a Patent office .Like handing a man a stick to beat you with ,and showing him where it hurts the most [instructions]
Just one mans opinion about the Patent Trap and most countries national security clauses .
they would rather we fiddle while Rome Burns...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 11, 2019, 12:55:37 AM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2008103130A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20080828&DB=&locale=#
" ....... has to receive energy from a power supply constantly. "
Other " Kapanadze":
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2008103129A1&KC=A1&FT=D#
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 11, 2019, 08:49:11 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ).   only 35 parameters, fine !

the "displacement money" producing real/ fictive value share-machinery :example between " skyrocking/ six-feet-under" dreams
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/aquion-the-bill-gates-and-kleiner-perkins-funded-advanced-battery-startup#gs.8M40819v (https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/aquion-the-bill-gates-and-kleiner-perkins-funded-advanced-battery-startup#gs.8M40819v)                                 
                                                  Skyrocking investments : 190 Mio.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/bankrupt-aquions-salt-water-battery-assets-sold-to-austrias-bluesky-energ   (https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/bankrupt-aquions-salt-water-battery-assets-sold-to-austrias-bluesky-energ)
                                                   Groundrocking R. O. I. :       2,8 Mio.


WIPO : the " fictive" granted patent economic value evaluation ( patent court base for law suits)
Nice "fairness"-system today : you have juridical the right, anybody infriges your right, you want satisfaction from the yury but you have to bring the " estimated infringment value" as " law suit deposit" !                                                   

        Judgement-Poker, that is it ! F.e. : the Apple / Motorola-Qualcom-Samsung-...... infringment processes
                           ALONE against the " Grand Yury" and their " deposit demand" !

Many U.S.-Patent-Office granted patent applications are withdrawn by the European Patent Office !                                                   
                                               Time to think about the " system quality" !
             Assets real value, assets by credit for " house investments by credit" ?


                                  Estate finance system based by credit : by how many lever-stages totally ?
                                              actually : 37 "soft money units" ~ " 1 hard money unit"
                                                     
                                                       Lohn-Preis-Kredit-Spirale-up/ down : 0,3/0,3/0,3
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on January 11, 2019, 12:36:26 PM

If what you have drawn is right, there is no possibility of transferring power even over a meter because the capacitance shunting effect manifests as a AC short at high frequencies. Unfortunately,  this goes against the conventional ground radio theory which has already been well written in text book. 






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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 11, 2019, 01:51:08 PM
Now I think about, what process is similar to the Kapanadze generator. I know. It is feedback of Microphone and Speakers. You know that. We have 3 parts. 1. Microphone 2. Power Amplifiere 3. Speakers We must create feedback loop between these 2 parts and we get excitation. Maybe that is not correct word, I am not English man. But you know. We Amplifiere that what is inside "water pipe" and when we get effect we start to extract energy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2019, 02:06:49 PM
Now I think about, what process is similar to the Kapanadze generator. I know. It is feedback of Microphone and Speakers. You know that. We have 3 parts. 1. Microphone 2. Power Amplifiere 3. Speakers We must create feedback loop between these 2 parts and we get excitation. Maybe that is not correct word, I am not English man. But you know. We Amplifiere that what is inside "water pipe" and when we get effect we start to extract energy.

It's only part of the system.


The device does not need grounding form low fq. Grounding is only for HV with Hi Fq.

The secret is in the construction of the "coil" and the result that we get at the output. This is the same effect as in Don Smith.
The phase is needed only at the start of the device and it is obvious when we know what effect it has. Wesley showed it but no one understands the meaning because every now and then he shows new ones.

This is not about coils! this is about understanding only one enhancement effect by working.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 11, 2019, 04:14:14 PM
Now I think about, what process is similar to the Kapanadze generator. I know. It is feedback of Microphone and Speakers. You know that. We have 3 parts. 1. Microphone 2. Power Amplifiere 3. Speakers We must create feedback loop between these 2 parts and we get excitation. Maybe that is not correct word, I am not English man. But you know. We Amplifiere that what is inside "water pipe" and when we get effect we start to extract energy.
What is being amplified inside the water pipe? It may be more effective to provide a schematic of what you are trying to describe / put over to us. I am interested to understand more about your theory but with respect, as you suggest, there is a communication problem.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 11, 2019, 04:14:40 PM
Now I think about, what process is similar to the Kapanadze generator. I know. It is feedback of Microphone and Speakers. You know that. We have 3 parts. 1. Microphone 2. Power Amplifiere 3. Speakers We must create feedback loop between these 2 parts and we get excitation. Maybe that is not correct word, I am not English man. But you know. We Amplifiere that what is inside "water pipe" and when we get the effect we start to extract energy.
Ansis do you mean positive feedback? PS not sure I am (united nations) me  ;D  when I was a kid  in Gmunden leather lederhosen but the kids here
were real nasty now they are old and still the same!  :-\  anyway Wilhelm Reich, was Viktor Schauberger not so much the hero there.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 11, 2019, 05:03:04 PM
OK. What I have? I have original? Kapanadze drawing.
My theory is based on Tesla and Classic Physics and of course I am more like a Forensic Investigator.
Take picture.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2019, 05:21:47 PM
OK. What I have? I have original? Kapanadze drawing.
My theory is based on Tesla and Classic Physics and of course I am more like a Forensic Investigator.
Take picture.

To which version do you want to match it?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 11, 2019, 05:29:33 PM
I love true. I think about that trick of Kapanadze.
All these 15 years peoples think about that too.
I take video's, take all possibilities, take all theories and try to investigate everything.
What we know?
1. Device is not working without "water pipe".
2. Water pipe is connected with grid through "earthing".
3. Non of the coils can create FE.
4. Spark alone is useless.
5. Spark on the Inductor makes/create Energy(Magnetic Field) amplification.
6. 0×1=0
7. 1×1=1
8. No free lunch.
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 11, 2019, 06:35:17 PM
OK. Take second picture.
It is not final or something real, but it is something what we can draw after picture 1, original? Kapanadze drawing.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2019, 06:47:46 PM
Understand: this is not about the schema, just about the principle. After these years of searching, it should be clear to everyone why they can not do it.
Don Smith showed the principle and 100% of the device, but he never said anything to make it work.

Example: you have to make a cake; you know all the ingredients because you see them, you know the proportions, you know the temperature, so why do not you go ?! maybe you're using bad ingredients.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 09:41:34 AM
Ansis,  much easier :

https://overunity.com/17279/split-flux-transformer/msg529903/#new (https://overunity.com/17279/split-flux-transformer/msg529903/#new)
Magluvin prototype !
  transversal and longitudinal waves in one MEG !
Inductor : ( Volt - Ampere winding turns coils)  x Inductee : Ampere-"turns" = impuls/-es/ oscillation/-s

         Artificial " Tornado "-seeding and earning ; explanation : Biot-Savart Law

                          and Lord Kelvins Spring/Condensator-Analogon
             https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Thomson-Baron-Kelvin (https://www.britannica.com/biography/William-Thomson-Baron-Kelvin)

                       Melvin Prueitt : M.E.C.H , Motor-Engine-Compressor-Hydraulic in one             


                          to    M.E.C.A.E. ,  Magneto-Electric Compressed Air Engine ( Ion-Wind-pressure)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 12, 2019, 10:10:08 AM
Idea is Tone Fork 440Hz.
We make kick and Fork start to resonate.
More kicks, lauder sound.
Thicker Inductor, more Amplification.
Fork=50Hz resonator, Kick=Spark.
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 10:35:41 AM
http://www.audio-perfection.com/spice-ltspice/distortion-measurements-with-ltspice.html (http://www.audio-perfection.com/spice-ltspice/distortion-measurements-with-ltspice.html)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_harmonic_distortion (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_harmonic_distortion)

 Symphony meets PUNK,  and PUNK IS KRANK ( ~ ill )!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I)


Short "Silence-MOMENTS" by kindly " ART OF NOISE" :  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3u31SAeEM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ux3u31SAeEM)

Differ : der Moment and das Moment,  German: poly-phrase,  take time to reach the " right tone "

      Harmony-teach : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPythagoras (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPythagoras)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 12, 2019, 11:28:27 AM
Inside part of Coil=Resonator must be?
It must be material which "answer" to the kick.
It means Kick - Answer(50Hz Magnetic pulse) e.t.c.
This process must be without saturation, like in Tube Single Ended transformers.
Transformers where is paper between E and I steel plates.
If you remember, 50Hz humm is what we hear when Kapanadze turn ON his device.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 11:43:09 AM
"paper" : Diluol tranked cellulosic/plastificated material
http://chemico.com.mx/productos/diluol-xz/ (http://chemico.com.mx/productos/diluol-xz/)
https://news.rpi.edu/luwakkey/2280 (https://news.rpi.edu/luwakkey/2280)

"Hostalen/Hostaflon" ...... electro-static. http://www.matweb.com/search/GetMatlsByTradename.aspx?navletter=h&tn=Hostalen (http://www.matweb.com/search/GetMatlsByTradename.aspx?navletter=h&tn=Hostalen)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellophane (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellophane)


 Ever try to stay under-saturation ( + environment influence controle )

A "Diskothek" in full function : closed door/ door opening?  Loudness/acoustics" Pegel" inside and outside,  before/ after
Radio in kitchen : closed/ open refrigerator door?

The Biot -Savart law : the second : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_Savart
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 12, 2019, 12:07:28 PM
And of course it is not LC resonance, because LC resonance = High Impedance or Z.
We search ELECTRO MECHANICAL type of resonator.
It must SOUND!
It is not Coil + Capacitor like we think in Radio electronic circuits.
It is not.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 12:19:13 PM
ION WIND ~ Sound

+ a kind of Morse-Alpabet~ winded reverse  f. e.  South-Italia " Tarantella"( Tarantula, Spinne)

                                   SPIN -Kind : Information -language translation
 We can https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0QDKLglEP5Y) the ACT,

         but do we understand the (e)MISSION INSIDE

                                          ?
  When are YOU loud?  THE BEST and the WORST MOMENT translated
             Body/ material " ache"/ stress
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 12, 2019, 12:30:07 PM
It can be Supermalloy pipe, cut in the style of flute...
How to make it?
Take violine bow (fiddlestick) put it in the Sound Fork type of standing and start to "play".
Record your frequency, adjust if needed. But,it is not so easy. This bar must be
part of Coil. It is tricky....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 12, 2019, 01:01:15 PM
Interesting type of resonators.
Cut ring resonators (split ring).
Make search in the Internet.
What is interesting?
It is very similar what we see in Kapanadze original?.
There is Ferrite Rings?
Maybe split rings?
Maybe not ferrite?
This is investigation, guys.
There is no icecream which we can take and eat... (Ready to use schematic with all parameters for China Manufacturers).
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 01:34:31 PM
                                       Chinese mass production  ?

                                        Ram-Widder-Pump
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Toribio+bellocq&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Toribio+bellocq&IN=&CPC=&IC=)

Toribio Bellocq. :   water flow.        / AC current-flow
to
https://www.google.com/search?q=rexresearch+all+electric&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=rexresearch+all+electric&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
  Valentin Kutienkov and  Viatcheslav Marukhin

for some easier :

http://rexresearch.com/Kutienkov/kutienkov.htm (http://rexresearch.com/Kutienkov/kutienkov.htm)
Inside information to correct : not 10€/KW but 100€/KW     
                                             -------------------------------

Es Ist immer gut ueber viele Asse,  im Aermel und Anderswo,  zu verfuegen!   8)
Tschau

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 12, 2019, 02:21:34 PM
Yes. China friends will make coppies.
It is not bad, but if we will make schematic of Kapanadze and it will be stealing from grid?
Just think, what will be?
There will be catastrophe.
All pipes will rust in 1 year!
Think about it.
You live in 10 000 people area. Every 100 of them will buy EnergeticAmplifiere of Kapanadze, screw it to water pipes and after some time all metal pipes will go dead...
And everyone who will own that type of FE go to jail, because of sabotage.
The only place where it can work without harm is in the private property with private "earthing".
Well! if it was true perhaps someone has one like that, I don't know to be honest and it wouldn't be free energy would'it!
Anyway, it's a bit hypothetical as Wesley was saying he had been in that garage and it was a good distance from any power so
that's not really the case here is it and I for one wouldn't buy into shit like that.

Anyway in saying that most electric companies are Crookes these days as if you listen to
Eric Dollard, he says they can make energy from balancing L and C and it's high time that crap was stopped
and that they let us all have had a stake in their technology windfall.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 12, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
There is a change whose some has not remarked : physics chemistry and elementary physics

           matter specification and the reziprok : anti-matter       

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotropy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotropy) and anisotropy

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology)
           
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial)
           Metachemistry,  an-/ organic
   

             You say : "Right! " and I say : " Left or right! "
            THE VARIANCE WILL STAY
           
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 12, 2019, 02:58:34 PM

We create 2 poles.
1 pole is "water pipe", second is car radiator (GreenBox video).

There is no evidence from the videos that Tariel used two grounded poles connected to the device at any point in time. This point has already been discussed way back in this thread.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 12, 2019, 03:23:41 PM
There is a change whose some has not remarked : physics chemistry and elementary physics

           matter specification and the reziprok : anti-matter       

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotropy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotropy) and anisotropy

            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topology)
           
            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamaterial)
           Metachemistry,  an-/ organic
   

             You say : "Right! " and I say : " Left or right! "
            THE VARIANCE WILL STAY
         
Aliens don't use Antimatter whoever she is,  in the interview with the J rod he talks about Zero matter.

Hoppy I a know nothing of anyone using 2 earth con-rods! Talking in Russian is no longer any big deal TK show or talk
of 2 earths is where to reference also in Weslys video Wesley says a second phase can be constructed from using a cap  Realy well try it!

In reality with ac and resistive inductance current will lag voltage, all you can do is use a cap to make the RL appear as a resister
that won't alter a phase shift in a single phase supply.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 13, 2019, 12:08:07 PM
Probably for some of interest, E.L.F.-spectrum related :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Christofilos (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Christofilos)
Nice Sunday wishing
OCWL
p.s.: Frequency-Pulse or EMP = EMPi+ EMPc

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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on January 13, 2019, 03:47:52 PM
Indeed there is something in to it which needs further analysis, and so i couldn't let the above statement floating like that. It would be iresponsible from my side. Sorry guys.

Phase shift by itself is nothing out of the ordinary. But in some cases it can be used in to our advantage. Like for example when we mix current and voltage together. (see fireballs).

 

 
Hi Jeg,
Fyi only.
Someone posted some external link in this topic few days/week back upon reading one of the article reveal about phase shift which matches what Akula would put in his circuit diagram for certain device.There is 2 devices of his with this symbol as attached which match the external link posted by someone.
Nothing much or is it.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Jeg on January 13, 2019, 05:01:13 PM
Hi Jeg,
Fyi only.
Someone posted some external link in this topic few days/week back upon reading one of the article reveal about phase shift which matches what Akula would put in his circuit diagram for certain device.There is 2 devices of his with this symbol as attached which match the external link posted by someone.
Nothing much or is it.

Thanks Magpwr. I remember at Ruslan's replication attempts, that the three turns coil (yoke core) was altered by 90 degrees in relation with the 28 turns output. This was because the 3 turns where in series with a cap inside the current loop, resonating. So this phase shift exists in the operation of Ruslan device. But it needs something more... obviously.         
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 13, 2019, 08:29:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMePf2vec_c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMePf2vec_c)

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=248 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=248)

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1220 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1220)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 13, 2019, 08:37:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmW7h5YgZL8
How to get electric field from electric potential. in relation to spherical capacitor of Tesla HV coil.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 14, 2019, 05:17:57 AM
Hi Wesley. LEDs/LED bulbs will light any time they have a suitable amount of
potential difference across their terminals (anode/cathode) which can supply the
relatively small amount of current they need to light up.  When you place the end of a LED bulb
on an at least a somewhat conductive surface which is in a strong HV electric field, 
and touch the other terminal of the LED bulb with your finger, your body is acting as a
virtual ground at a much lower voltage potential to complete the circuit. Without knowing the
input power to the voltage source(s) you were using to create the HV electric field, I think it is not really
possible for anyone to judge whether there was anything out of the ordinary going on there
in your demonstration or not.

I tested with this a little today with just a flyback transformer driver at about 4.5W input power to the
flyback driver and it could light a small led bulb, although not very bright, when I put the end of the
LED bulb into a small bowl of commercial filtered water (DC resistance measured 8 to 11 megaOhms),
and touched the other terminal with my fingers. The bowl was placed close to a capacitive 'top load'
connected to the HV terminal of the flyback driver. The LED bulb I was using didn't light very brightly at that
low 4.5W input power level however. That might be due to the circuitry that is in the bulb reducing the
current flow to the LED bulb with the low input power level to the flyback driver not being enough to overcome that.

What total power input were you using when you lit the LED bulb? So, you think that the phase shift when
using the 'charge line' makes a big difference in performance? Were you monitoring the input power difference on 
your high voltage source(s) comparing when the LED bulb was not lit compared to when it was lit?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 14, 2019, 08:44:42 AM
Idea is Tone Fork 440Hz.
We make kick and Fork start to resonate.
More kicks, lauder sound.
Thicker Inductor, more Amplification.
Fork=50Hz resonator, Kick=Spark.
 :)
https://books.google.pt/books?id=FzbBK6m8qxEC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=parametric+generator+papalexi&source=bl&ots=DAhHCWmxUk&sig=5vw-mY_uWBFGvdXUXmvC5WdmOMM&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD8anI3uzfAhWNgM4BHdnXC7UQ6AEIETAD#v=onepage&q=parametric%20generator%20papalexi&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=FzbBK6m8qxEC&pg=PA98&lpg=PA98&dq=parametric+generator+papalexi&source=bl&ots=DAhHCWmxUk&sig=5vw-mY_uWBFGvdXUXmvC5WdmOMM&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjD8anI3uzfAhWNgM4BHdnXC7UQ6AEIETAD#v=onepage&q=parametric%20generator%20papalexi&f=false)

 videre : Video.                     audire : Audio                    signare( written, spoken ?) : Signal (~  physics: pulse )
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertone_series (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undertone_series)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subharmonic_function (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subharmonic_function)

https://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/overtone.html (https://pages.mtu.edu/~suits/overtone.html)

La-la-la-la-la-la-la : tone scale  ? harp strings, claviatur strings /     "synthetic strings“ :  syntheziser/ keyboard
eV, nm !  : dB ?

  Sub-harmonic resonance to super-harmonic resonance. : total resonance bandgap and bandwidth

                           Color : Klangfarbe "Dreiklangdimension".  https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klangfarbe (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klangfarbe)
                                              VIDEO-/AUDIO-SIGNAL : TEMPERAMENT/TIMBRE
                                            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9dsjcTzHoM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N9dsjcTzHoM)
                                              " ..... Lichtspielimpressionen, so farbvoll ...... "
                           A-/ Symetrie.   ( or Dis-) Symetrie
                           A-/ Synchron.  ( or Dis-) Synchron
                           A-/ Harmonic  ( or Dis-) Harmonic

       Is an Orchestra in its dynamics " dictatur"  or " democracy"

       The Dirigent : Dictator or Demokrat ?
       How to become the right democratic Dirigent from the "E.M.L.O",
       Electro-Magnetic Light Orchestra, Light-Cinema

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 14, 2019, 12:23:35 PM
Look I'm no professor on this (cabbage) whatever that is ;D but yonks back Akula started some experiment with a 555 and a cd4017 and a pile of diodes
and a 4 phase toroidal winding, does anyone remember that one The commentator talks about connecting with the earth's magnetic Force while trying to push it along the table (here we go round the mulberry bush)  ;D Akula started showing it and then 'bang' gone, nothing!
now Wesley is into 90 deg phase shift.

Also, does anyone know what a photon generator is it takes in seawater produces ENERGY many times OU and then chucks the sea water back out or round again (re Revers the Grid campaign? published by free energy party on Facebook look up Dave Parker if interested not me.

Also there is this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70_xKJh91eE   READ his notes !!!!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 14, 2019, 02:51:51 PM
  When you place the end of a LED bulb
on an at least a somewhat conductive surface which is in a strong HV electric field, 
and touch the other terminal of the LED bulb with your finger,
I  did not touch  any other terminal of the lightbulb as you see on the pictures
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 14, 2019, 02:58:50 PM
  :( C'mon Wesley, stop playing tricks and put all your cards on the table.
At first it is possible. Needs to be little warmer. And I really do not want to show this lab from outside.
As I said, I created surface wave on  the interface.
Interface is the space between two different lossy mediums ,
where  one of it  is dielectric and the other is air.
And because I was still in in Near Field that is why I had sparks in my mouth.
I have had  no horizontal space to be outside and  do the same. Too cold.
However at  parking lot approx 1120m (1.120km) away . I was still getting  strong reading.
No I did not try light bulb there. I have XYZ  isotropic field meter with XYZ  probe connected by fieberoptics  so it  eliminates  any parasitic influence on the probe  and processing unit.
that was  reading  not  XYZ space.
But earth air interface.. with some  form of resonant transformer just placed  on the surface of it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 14, 2019, 03:06:38 PM
I  did not touch  any other terminal of the lightbulb as you see on the pictures
Wesley


Even if you are not touching the other terminal of the light bulb directly, your hand holding the bulb glass capacitively
couples to the other terminal on the bulb. If the electric field is strong enough, that will be enough, especially at higher frequencies. 
The fact that you have ignored the question a few times about what input power levels you are using to light the bulb is not
good at all Wesley. The electric field must be very strong to have caused sparking in your mouth,
so presumably you are using a relatively high amount of input power to create the HV electric field.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 14, 2019, 04:55:19 PM
I agree with you. Wesley plays with classical electromagnetism, highlights classical phenomena, and tries to bluff us by lying by omission: unknown transmission power, unknown received power, unknown distance between light and antenna, unknown antenna type, capacitive coupling never mentioned....
I too played at remotely turning on lights (only 10W RF for this one (http://exvacuo.free.fr/div/Sciences/Expériences/Em/Induction/Lampe%20Ensemble.jpg)). When you know the domain, you can see his tricks.  He would like us to believe in brilliant discoveries when there is nothing, perhaps he deludes himself out of ignorance or wants to parade. Our objections are ignored, and the thread is continued with irrelevant comments, and with links to academic science that we never see him to rigorously apply to what he is talking about. This thread has become a joke.
Instead of faffing about around the bush trying to display some kind of guilt trip to the other party, why don't you ask the other party if they are interested I a nondisclosure contract, or if they are interested in any other way, instead of just winding them up?
No offence but then everyone might get what they want.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 14, 2019, 05:52:35 PM
Everything in it's time frame
Nothing brilliant just physics
Read my previous post again
You may have noticed that there was no metal structure near by. I was touching antistatic board specially made to prevent electrostatic discharge
and damage of sensitive electronic components.
So please show me anyone who presented such experiment in youtube with 120W equivalent of incadescent lighbulb.
-that was maximum I have tried ever with this setup till now
Wesley

Hi Wesley, as already mentioned, without at least indicating the total input power applied,
your demonstrations of lighting a LED bulb does not tell anyone anything at all. I have explained why.
Read my previous posts again.

See the attached picture where I show the origin of this type of secret free energy technology.
I can't reveal any more details beyond what I have indicated on this picture of Tesla, as I
am planning on patenting this technology so people don't try to steal my IP. Once I have
patented this, I may reveal more details if enough people suitably grovel at my feet. ;)
All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 14, 2019, 06:03:31 PM
And yes, Fabrice Andre use 220W from grid!!!
Kapanadze use Power from Grid in Turkey experiment!!!
Kapanadzes device is Amplifiere!!!
There is no FE.
GreenBox video last only some minutes and after listening of "tapes" I know about that!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 14, 2019, 07:57:26 PM
To lancaIV.Re : to Ansis

You are supermega troll of overunity.com!
Who makes me an offer to built a COP=1 and doing a grid connection is for me not a troll but in simple words a.

 an equipment seller b.  a maths idiot

Your jazz is funny!
I am not doing jazz but listen to jazz-playrrs and play their music or vids

You are a Clown!    Life is funny, CHARLY, n'est ce pas?

You are like a bomb in the ass!    For anybody a foot is enough

Here is the End.I hope not that you are planning your sudden final  :'(


 Music!

Music-box A https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r1OnVxfy6iM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r1OnVxfy6iM).


to Z.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66zUY8UZn4M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=66zUY8UZn4M)
wmbr OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on January 14, 2019, 07:57:37 PM
F.Y.I.

Interesting and helpful REAL LIFE examples of the use of modern Computer Aided
Engineering (CAE) to find the answers and solve the mysteries of excess energy generation.

Example #1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCC8mY7ykM4

Intro/Overview: "Watch to the end if you want to understand! Installation Principle
Ruslan Kulabukhov 2019, Tariel Kapanadze, Stephen Mark, Akula083 Calculator
http: //cxem.net/software/download/cal ... Single Phase Current Push System
https://vk.com/doc442363570_487639626 Two Phase Current Push System
https: //vk.com/doc442363570_488467031 Two Phase Current Push System for Meier
Cell https://vk.com/doc442363570_489097188" 

Example #2 (today).

Another proof that modern Computer Aided Engineering (CAE) software tools can/will
definitely assist in FE research.
https://overunity.com/15154/selfrunning-free-energy-permanent-magnet-motor-the-simon-magnet-motor-motor/msg530048/#msg530048

From Simon to Hartiberlin [Stephan posting]: Quote, in part:

"Now, after having perfected my understanding of how to rightly use ANSYS Maxwell,
I simulated the two modified versions that he built; the software confirmed the behaviour
of the prototypes.The software confirmed the extremely high cogging torque and the
extremely short deceleration time.

Here's the sweet part. The software revealed that for the prototype to work, the rotor
magnets should be reduced to either 40, or 30, or 20, or 10, etc. (Note, his prototype
has 50 rotor magnets.) The software also revealed that the net forward and net back
magnetomotive forces(mmfs) of the prototype are heavily dependent on the airgap
lengths between the rotor magnets." 

It's for sure happening; as hoped and expressed - yay!:

Using modern Computer Aided Engineering to solve the Excess Energy (Free Energy)
mystery; as promoted and predicted here in this "SAEC Project paper presented in the
forums December 29, 2018:

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529052/#msg529052

ALTERNATE ENERGY DEVELOPMENT - TIME FOR A PARADYNE CHANGE

Quote, in part:

"Recent capabilities in the areas of worldwide networking and Computer Aided Engineering (CAE)
have reached a level where it is now possible to employ skilled energy developers throught the world
by linking them all together to collectively engineer solutions through the use of a coordinated, modern,
analysis and simulation engineering tool set."

Interesting - could be we're "Three in the Green," "On course and on the Glide Path,"
"our Rate of decent is good," and we'll be at the "Destination Gate" within a few minutes!

Just a heads-up about some real work that's actually taking place out here... Hopefully it will
help to relieve the depression and dispare that some appear to have right now and serve to inspire!
Some REAL proofs. Lots more in the pipeline.

FIN

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 14, 2019, 09:14:00 PM
Some interesting videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPk345S4GGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH2TWPJiwEA
now, you can do a third coil on top of this loosely coupled and  this will be very close to Kapanadze device I think
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 14, 2019, 10:33:01 PM
And yes, Fabrice Andre use 220W from grid!!!
Kapanadze use Power from Grid in Turkey experiment!!!
Kapanadzes device is Amplifiere!!!
There is no FE.
GreenBox video last only some minutes and after listening of "tapes" I know about that!
Hi Ansis,
Nothing surprising about that but what is amplified - the voltage?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 14, 2019, 11:16:11 PM
This is 90 deg phase shift try getting that out of a TL494
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 14, 2019, 11:39:33 PM
Some interesting videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPk345S4GGY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPk345S4GGY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH2TWPJiwEA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH2TWPJiwEA)
now, you can do a third coil on top of this loosely coupled and  this will be very close to Kapanadze device I think
The second video with the Zatsarinin transformer is the change from Kirchhoff circuit law to Ampere law well demonstrating. !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz0GUqxCPp4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz0GUqxCPp4)

https://books.google.pt/books?id=Xry7DAAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA22&lpg=SA4-PA22&dq=zatsarinin+transformer&source=bl&ots=XVbJ2PchAJ&sig=KuRjHfd37JyNS01yg4hSkOjQI-Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGkteQqe7fAhWh1-AKHY68DhkQ6AEIFzAE#v=onepage&q=zatsarinin%20transformer&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=Xry7DAAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA22&lpg=SA4-PA22&dq=zatsarinin+transformer&source=bl&ots=XVbJ2PchAJ&sig=KuRjHfd37JyNS01yg4hSkOjQI-Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGkteQqe7fAhWh1-AKHY68DhkQ6AEIFzAE#v=onepage&q=zatsarinin%20transformer&f=false)
not unknown :
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2315.0
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 01:44:58 AM
Thank you SolarLab for delivery of Russian News

Спасибо за доставку ваших новостей.
Трамп называет его поддельные новости. Посмотрите на это снова.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 02:02:47 AM
type of the dielectric
Look at sparks at the edge
compare it  with video  https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=1187
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 02:20:25 AM
Hi Wesley. I did already point out to you here that those anti-static blocks that you have
contain a lot of carbon (very conductive) to give the material its anti-static properties.
This is why the material is a dark black color. The material may be covered with a thin plastic
coating to act as an insulator to lower voltages, but HV will pass right through such a thin plastic
layer and be conducted away, which is how it works as an anti-static material.

If you measure the surface resistance with an ohmmeter, does it measure infinite resistance?
If so, then it is probably coated with a thin layer of insulating plastic. Basically those carbon filled
anti-static blocks are about the same as using a block of conductive metal. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 02:33:51 AM
Hi Wesley. I did already point out to you here that those anti-static blocks that you have
contain a lot of carbon (very conductive) to give the material its anti-static properties.
This is why the material is a dark black color. The material may be covered with a thin plastic
coating to act as an insulator to lower voltages, but HV will pass right through such a thin plastic
layer and be conducted away, which is how it works as an anti-static material.
If you measure the surface resistance with an ohmmeter, does it measure infinite resistance?
If so, then it is probably coated with a thin layer of insulating plastic. Basically those carbon filled
anti-static blocks are about the same as using a block of conductive metal. :)

https://www.quadrantplastics.com/na-en/products/engineering-plastics/standard/tivarr-uhmw-pe-family-of-products/tivarr-dryslide/ (https://www.quadrantplastics.com/na-en/products/engineering-plastics/standard/tivarr-uhmw-pe-family-of-products/tivarr-dryslide/)
No my friend  the resistance is  >20GOhm
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Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 03:37:44 AM


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 03:48:12 AM
Hi Wesley my friend, I did already quote you this here earlier, I believe, directly from the Tivar product literature, but here it is again:
"The incorporation of an effective carbon black grade renders this material electrostatic dissipative properties."

As I said before, it has carbon in it to give the material its *conductive* anti-static properties.
If the material wasn't conductive to high voltages it would be useless as an anti-static material for floor mats or whatever else. :)

Again, as I have explained, the material may well be plastic coated to give it a very high resistance to lower voltages
(rendering it as an insulator as a floor mat for example if someone accidentally touches voltages such as 120V or 220V),
but high voltages will easily jump across the thin insulating plastic coating and dissipate through the conductive carbon
in its interior, allowing it to work as an effective anti-static material.  Those Tivar blocks in strong (high voltage) electric fields
are almost like blocks of conducting metal. I would guess that if you puncture the Tivar material with some pointy multimeter probes
and measure the resistance that way that it may well register as a quite low resistance, not that I am asking you to damage
your Tivar blocks if you don't want to. :) All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 04:19:32 AM
Hi Wesley my friend, I did already quote you this here earlier, I believe, directly from the Tivar product literature, but here it is again:
"The incorporation of an effective carbon black grade renders this material electrostatic dissipative properties."
As I said before, it has carbon in it to give the material its *conductive* anti-static properties.
If the material wasn't conductive to high voltages it would be useless as an anti-static material for floor mats or whatever else. :)
look here:
Product Data Sheet (http://qepp.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?Bassnum=P1SMP17)
Surface Resistivity per Square
1e+05 - 1.00e+9 (http://qepp.matweb.com/tools/unitconverter.aspx?fromID=141&fromValue=1.00e%2b9) ohm1e+05 - 1.00e+9 (http://qepp.matweb.com/tools/unitconverter.aspx?fromID=141&fromValue=1.00e%2b9) ohmASTM D257
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 05:04:38 AM
 Corona  seen on conductor in Tesla coil has nothing to do with dielectric.
There was no single piece of wire or any conductor.


This part of a  big slab is totally dielectric  and anti-static and uniform in its consistency.
Surface wave is giving you HV charge on the surface of dielectric.

Surface of dielectric is the interface with air.
In contrast to it the wood below can not serve as lossy  conducting medium as it is not conducting.
Earth is used as returned wire for HV and LW power networks.
The  difference between surface of dielectric is that at frequencies  higher than approximately 52MHz  uneven surface    cancels continuity of the surface  wave.
With earth however there is a need for proper resonant transformer  to be able to receive the surface wave.
In addition  I was in Near Field and that can explain sparks in my mouth.
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 05:27:05 AM
Hi Wesley. I haven't worked with that specific material before, but I know well the reason
it has carbon infused into the material (gives it its dark black color). The carbon is in there
100% for certain to make the material conductive to high voltages. The carbon may possibly be
interspersed thoughout the material with other substances in such a way that gives it a high resistivity
to lower voltages (say less than 500V) even in its interior, but for absolute certain that material
is conductive enough to high voltages or it would be completely useless as an anti-static material.

To continue to deny something that obvious would be completely ridiculous. :)

Also, it absolutely would not show high voltage corona discharge between the Tivar blocks if the
material was not at least somewhat conductive to high voltages. It doesn't take super high conductivity
in a material for it to conduct a significant current when a high voltage is applied across it.
That Tivar
material with the carbon compound in it is very clearly conductive enough to high voltages to act as
an effective anti-static material, or they most definitely wouldn't be selling it as such, and also as seen
in your video screen shot, to allow corona discharge to occur between the two blocks of Tivar.
:)

Carbon is a quite a good conductor, especially when high voltage is applied across it. If you have any doubts,
please look it up, and please do contact the manufacturer of those Tivar blocks and ask them why the material
has carbon in it, and ask them what that Tivar material's conductivity is when subjected to very high voltage. ;)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 05:42:14 AM
Quadrant EPP TIVAR® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
Quote
Redco™ Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE) has extremely low moisture absorption, a very low coefficient of friction, is self lubricating and is highly resistant to abrasion (10 times more resistant to abrasion than carbon steel). Redco™ UHMW has the highest impact strength of any thermoplastic presently made and is highly resistant to corrosive chemicals, with an exception of oxidizing acids.
Redco™ UHMW plastic is known for its durability, machinability, versatility and cost-effectiveness. Virgin UHMW is FDA compliant and is used in applications where high levels of friction are likely to arise including chain channel, wear strips, belt scrapers, guides, and rollers. Redco™ UHMW can be machined into virtually anything from small bearings to large sprockets and liner systems. Due to an extremely low coefficient of friction, its inherent lubricity minimizes friction resulting in a smooth, noiseless operation.
Outperforming and more cost effective than metal in many applications. Redco™ UHMW is highly durable and available in a wide variety of formulations and grades.
   https://www.redwoodplastics.com/products/uhmw-polyethylene/ (https://www.redwoodplastics.com/products/uhmw-polyethylene/)

Quote
quote from data :
Surface Resistivity per Square
1e+05 - 1.00e+9 (http://qepp.matweb.com/tools/unitconverter.aspx?fromID=141&fromValue=1.00e%2b9) ohm1e+05 - 1.00e+9 (http://qepp.matweb.com/tools/unitconverter.aspx?fromID=141&fromValue=1.00e%2b9) ohmASTM D257
https://www.astm.org/Standards/D257.htm (https://www.astm.org/Standards/D257.htm)
here you have its electric properties based on American standards. D257
Nothing you say is found here.
 this is American product not some of Far  East, Eastern European  garbage
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 09:10:34 AM
The second video with the Zatsarinin transformer is the change from Kirchhoff circuit law to Ampere law well demonstrating. !
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz0GUqxCPp4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dz0GUqxCPp4)

https://books.google.pt/books?id=Xry7DAAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA22&lpg=SA4-PA22&dq=zatsarinin+transformer&source=bl&ots=XVbJ2PchAJ&sig=KuRjHfd37JyNS01yg4hSkOjQI-Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGkteQqe7fAhWh1-AKHY68DhkQ6AEIFzAE#v=onepage&q=zatsarinin%20transformer&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=Xry7DAAAQBAJ&pg=SA4-PA22&lpg=SA4-PA22&dq=zatsarinin+transformer&source=bl&ots=XVbJ2PchAJ&sig=KuRjHfd37JyNS01yg4hSkOjQI-Q&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGkteQqe7fAhWh1-AKHY68DhkQ6AEIFzAE#v=onepage&q=zatsarinin%20transformer&f=false)
not unknown :
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2315.0 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2315.0)
from  "ENERGY AMPLIFICATION": 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=71vtcl-G4dw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
Dear Void. Corona  seen on conductor in Tesla coil has nothing to do with dielectric.
There was no single piece of wire or any conductor.

Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 09:36:27 AM
Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...
Wow, I thought several hours before , not that I do not know this papers,  but reading it more concentrated :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken+hayashibara&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken+hayashibara&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=)

f.e.:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4701675A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19871020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4701675A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19871020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
60 W : (130 V x 200 A) arc discharge current ( which makes part of the inrush current kind )
60 Wnominal average : 26000 VA peak

Voltage divider,Frequency divider : Pulse divider
impulse spark gap : Space-Time calculation f.e. electrophorese like EDM or arc welding or Plasma welding

Maths world "Raum-Zeit/Space-Time" : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartesisches_Koordinatensystem
          applied f.e. 4d- nano-chirurgy by C.N.C. and in future EPROM based
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 10:55:39 AM
Excellent video Void and the music! 8)
Maybe this will help rid this thread of this LED bulb lighting nonsense and get back to ways to light Kapanadze style 1KW bulbs with free energy.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. Thanks for watching mate. You would think that such an experiment will help to dispel some myths,
but that is not typically how things go around here unfortunately.  ;D We will see what Wesley has to say
about this experiment and the conclusions I draw from it. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 11:27:09 AM

Thank you for your video and your time.
anything what you say  at any frequency would be noted in literature as  this material is used in American government test facilities.

In  Product Data Sheet  (http://qepp.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?Bassnum=P1SMP17)on the top you see material listed:
Quadrant EPP TIVAR® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
I explained in  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113)
and in
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118)

Material used in experiment had nothing to do with charcoal or any conductive  material under any circumstances.
so again Void :
It is  the type of insulator that never becomes conductive
====================================================================
All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
=================================================================
the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 15, 2019, 05:18:22 PM
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 15, 2019, 05:45:04 PM
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?
Well what happened to the German guy Otto as a matter of interest?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 05:59:07 PM
Not a german guy, but with first name Otto   :
https://www.google.com/search?q=otto+tpu-ecd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Otto Sabljaric :  R. I. P .
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on January 15, 2019, 06:23:48 PM
   Otto died a few years ago. Unfortunately. He may have been Serbian, but I'm not sure.
   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
   What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 06:39:59 PM
Winfried Otto Schumann
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann)


https://www.google.com/search?q=schumann+frequenz&client=firefox-b&oq=schumann+frequenz&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3..0l5.2996.8303.0.9122.9.4.0.5.5.0.236.724.0j3j1.4.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.9.868.NgDB960H3Ls (https://www.google.com/search?q=schumann+frequenz&client=firefox-b&oq=schumann+frequenz&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3..0l5.2996.8303.0.9122.9.4.0.5.5.0.236.724.0j3j1.4.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.9.868.NgDB960H3Ls)

Theta-Welle
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=)
f. e.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=24&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=24&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871201&CC=US&NR=4710655A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871201&CC=US&NR=4710655A&KC=A#)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890530&CC=US&NR=4834701A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890530&CC=US&NR=4834701A&KC=A#)

                           ~ NLP : Neuro-Linguistic-Programming
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programming)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wds0JSpKtpg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wds0JSpKtpg)

                                                  also : propaganda ( pagare : to pay)
         sublime(s) selling instrument during shopping or by radio-/ tele-vision
                                   " product placement" /  mind occupation


https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+kazumi+masaki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-bm (https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+kazumi+masaki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)

                                                                      EEG and EKG
https://www.google.com/search?q=brain+machine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=brain+machine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)

At last,  as ultra-mind and ultra-fast-learning  machine ( cheaper than a ultra-learning curse ) :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neurophone-energy.com%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neurophone-energy.com%2F)
DIY- plans in the internet- universe to down-load

Mind maping : left brain ware and right brain ware seriell or parallel work
 + v. Klausewitz and Kaizen : cold economy war against the CONSTITUTION and CIVIL RIGHTS
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 06:55:10 PM
   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   
What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.

Hi Nick. I have not so far seen anything at all that gives any compelling indication that Kapanadze
may be making use of Schumann resonance waves at the surface of the Earth or similar. Kapanadze
himself may not know at all where the energy is coming from.  He may just know what to do to
make a working device based on some info someone passed on to him at some point, or possibly from
some obscure document he came across, and possibly just not know where the extra energy is coming from.
(Assuming it really works as claimed and as demonstrated by Kapanadze).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 15, 2019, 07:18:59 PM
This is another piece of disinformation because of the minority opinion.
Previously, another vocal individual has voiced the same concern. I was trying to comment but I finally gave up. Every real antenna engineer knows what's wrong with your concerns #1 and #3.
Can you read these articles from independent engineers?

http://www.vlf.it/kurt/elf.html
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18969
https://jwcn-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s13638-018-1157-7

 If you are a electronics engineer, you need to understand how low the level of energy is.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 08:05:37 PM
Wesley,
if (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/alexander-graham-bell-patents-the-telephoneif) there has not to be the dependance from one frequency bandgap/bandwidth solely, what would you use as total receiveable radiation spectrum " diaphragm" ?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/alexander-graham-bell-patents-the-telephone (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/alexander-graham-bell-patents-the-telephone)
Electro-magneto-acoustics : opto ( parabol,  hyperbol)

           dormant bonanzas : WIPO-archive

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+Graham+bell&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+Graham+bell&CPC=&IC=)
Bauer, ......., Fessenden :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fessenden&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fessenden&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Fessenden
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2019, 08:25:27 PM

Schumann waveguide should not be seen as Schumann resonances per say .
Schumann  Resonance only allows you to send  signal from point A to point B without significant losses.
That includes Ground Wave, Surface Wave, and traditional  electromagnetic  communication.
The guided wave travels along  curvature of the earth.
And that is  about all in this area.
Corum Bross included that information in their patents.
======================================
The novelty  is  extraction energy  from that Schumann Waveguide.
So  in the big picture there are two alternatives:
1- Tariel  knows about Surface Wave but he  had no idea  that he deals with Surface Wave.
Theoretically to make Tx and Rx for such assembly  is about 1 to 3 days.
And for these who did it before  1 to 3 hours.( with help of two, three people in physical assembly)

1a- testing and tuning takes  few hours to few days but less than 3 days for starters.

1b-
There is indication that in the island presentation light in the motel  dimmed significantly.
Tariel was across  the water on the island. Part of his crew was in the motel.
That fact was  absolutely proven by my very credible  sources.
However we may say that it was purely coincidental.
=============================================================================
2- Tariel knowing technique of Zenneck  transmission went further  up and extracted energy from Schumann  Waveguide
That is in theory even simpler than transmission of Zenneck Wave  as you do not need transmitter.
Each lightning strike  creates avalanche of  lightning strikes around the earth.
Quote
High quality lightning data has only recently become available, but the data indicates that lightning occurs on average 44 times every second over the entire Earth, making a total of about 1.4 billion flashes per year.
All  of them must dissipate in the earth.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 15, 2019, 09:11:41 PM
Hi Wesley, thanks for the comments.
As I see it, the problem is IMO that you have not said or demonstrated anything so far that
would seem to lend concrete support to the idea that low frequency waveforms at the Earth's surface
are being tapped into as the source of the extra energy. I am not saying that idea is necessarily
wrong, just that I don't think you have presented anything which seems to give real support to this idea
of yours. Why do I say 'low frequency' above? Because Schumann resonance frequencies are supposed to
be quite low frequency.

It will always come back to the same point with anyone anywhere (not just here) in regards to these type of ideas.
If a person can't show anything concrete to back up the notion that energy is being extracted from the Earth's surface,
then people can only take it as an as yet unsupported idea. That's my point of view anyway.
Related Schumann frequency spectrum :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetware.de%2Ftune_in%2Fschumann.html
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 09:51:29 PM
Hi Wesley. You seem to be taking people's natural hesitance against jumping to conclusions
about these sorts of things personally, but it is not personal at all. For myself, not wanting to jump
to any conclusions about this sort of stuff comes from long experience.

I am actually not ruling out what you have been saying at all in regards to Earth surface/ground waves
of low frequency as being the possible source of extra energy in these setups. I am thinking about
it and trying to see how it might work. The fact that Frank Wyatt Prentice seems to possibly have done
something similar to that approach in 1923, makes me think it may be possible.  See the attached
Prentice drawing again. 

The top 'Transmitter' section has a long 800m approx. wire a short distance above the ground
and a sparkgap at the end near the end grounding point. The sparkgap may cause disruptions/disturbances
in the ground underneath which may draw in energy into the long wire from low frequency waves in the Earth
and thus increase the energy on the long wire by a factor of about 6 when it was all tuned properly.
The small receiving loop is tuned to the transmitter frequency and receives this 'amplified energy' from
the long transmitting wire. If we replace Prentice's 800m long wire with a short tuned coil, it might
still work about the same. It does seem to possibly mirror Kapanadze's setup fairly closely, except
Kapanadze used a much more compact transmitter/disrupter and receiver coil assembly. Am I close
to your ideas Wesley? :)

P.S.
Maybe what Kapanadze had in his tobacco can besides a flyback transformer was a tuneable HV capacitor (#23 in Prentice's drawing)...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 15, 2019, 10:20:34 PM
Hi Wesley. You can find the PDF file for that Prentice patent attached to my message here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg523030/#msg523030

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 16, 2019, 02:24:50 AM
Wesley Hi this is my contribution a four-phase clock contribution.
If you want a 50 Hz or 60 you have to drive it with 4 times that frequency
The CD4046 is simply a stable VFO
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 16, 2019, 05:01:10 AM
https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/ (https://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/3555/)
#3556 and #3564

     Tekla Ozkan " simple thinking" ( ~ Tanaka Saburo,  Keiichiro Asaoka Inverter generator)


http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/app/20090079393 (http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/app/20090079393)
Attention,  probably " getuerkt" !  ::) ;) ;D


For " more complexity thinker" :

Triangle 1 : DC/AC left-/ or up helix
Triangle 2: AC/DC right/ or down helix

Tornado ? N-P-N holes principle ?

N1 : CCW or CW
P
N2 : CW or CCW                 

   NPN Trans-Resistor " Transistor" ,      a.  Photo-copler  b.  Phono-copler          to RTS/HTS

BTW : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1932-Bridgeport-Phono-Electric-Trolley-Bus-Ad-wg393-MBFA2Q-/290875565380?redirect=mobile (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1932-Bridgeport-Phono-Electric-Trolley-Bus-Ad-wg393-MBFA2Q-/290875565380?redirect=mobile)
alloy material mix ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 16, 2019, 11:31:11 AM
To Void, Wesley.
I see you are back on the right track!
Void, I think like you about 15 years from now.
Your Wireless Video was realy good!
Wesley, I think Kapanadze use sea water like medium, but very thick multi strands wire which he buried in the Sea was Antena. It is Energy from Medium, which contains EM Field. He makes loop.
In that loop he amplifiere field.
Thats it!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 16, 2019, 08:07:30 PM

Schumann resonance does not allow us to send a signal from point A to point B without significant losses. The losses are considerable, question of wavelength far too long for the possible sizes of radiant systems.
In front of you, you do not only have blind believers in fairy tales or uneducated ignoramuses. You have curious, critical and competent minds, with strong objections which you do not respond, or by digressions, and which you confuse with missiles.

 
Quote
Schumann resonance frequencies are lower than expected for an ideal cavity, i.e., two concentric layers of infinite conductivity filled by a lossless dielectric medium  [Jackson, 1999 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2002JA009779#jgra16904-bib-0008)
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2002JA009779 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2002JA009779)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances)
Quote
In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_frequency) is a standing wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave) in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength) equal to the circumference of the Earth.
That is in my previous post  I said:
Quote
Think about Standing Wave deformation at your higher Schumann Resonance frequency
And you'll get your FE.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530166/#msg530166 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530166/#msg530166)



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some harmonic of the fundamental earth resonant frequency—up to approximately 25 – 35 kHz—is used for the oscillator frequency.
In this frequency range the around-the-world propagation efficiency is in the general area between 93 to 87%
https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/)
Please read all of it!!
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Appendix II, "The Zenneck Surface Wave"]
The oscillatory transformer provides the high voltage alternating current needed to periodically charge the transmitter’s elevated terminal.
A monochromatic subcarrier signal is then added.
This is in the form of an abrupt lower frequency electrical impulse applied at a rate approaching the fundamental earth resonance frequency.
Higher frequency impulses, above the oscillator frequency are also added at every harmonic of the low frequency subcarrier impulse, be it
the fundamental earth resonance frequency or some lower harmonic of same. [Corum & Corum]
While the following quote refers to the use of an RF alternator in conjunction with a resonance transformer to produce continuous waves,
it appears to be applicable to the excitation of earth resonance modes as well. .

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
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Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency (below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data),
signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2019, 10:21:22 AM
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds)
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices

B.  " ....   It begins to cool down..."

C.  ".... and applied smaller and smaller voltages. Every time the Voltage was halved,
            the electrical power was reduced by a factor of fourbut the light power only
            dropped by a factor of two.   ...."
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 17, 2019, 10:29:14 AM
A.  " ...."
B.  " ...."
C.  ".... "
D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on January 17, 2019, 10:47:33 AM
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds)
Many did read this news but forgot  !

A. "electrical efficiency > 100%" as term for FE devices
...

I had seen this article when it came out, source paper here (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.108.097403). It would be revolutionary in principle, since it would be a Maxwell demon.
On the practical side, the energy in question is on the order of tens of pW, so no practical interest without considerable improvements.
But there are worse things. This scientific paper is questionable.  Cooling was not measured but calculated. The paper was refuted, a real measure would have indicated an absence of cooling:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/
"The authors did not directly observe cooling, mostly because they did not thermally isolate the diode, instead they chose to keep the temperature fixed! They calculate the net cooling. In simple terms, one would not observe cooling in the recombination dominated region."
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2019, 10:51:09 AM
D. "....69 picowatts of light, of course, is a very small amount" 69 picowatts = 0,000 000 000 069 Watt,  very very very small amount energy from ambient heat, not usable.
       "C. THE RATIO FROM POWER FACTOR AND HEAT FACTOR APPLIED "( + Newton* meter Factor)

                  " picowatts "- device as q.e.d. for him and his POWER KW/KVA RATIO description :               
               to  mega.         

 http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2019, 10:53:29 AM
I had seen this article when it came out, source paper here (https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.108.097403). It would be revolutionary in principle, since it would be a Maxwell demon.
On the practical side, the energy in question is on the order of tens of pW, so no practical interest without considerable improvements.
But there are worse things. This scientific paper is questionable.  Cooling was not measured but calculated. The paper was refuted, a real measure would have indicated an absence of cooling:
http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/ (http://large.stanford.edu/courses/2012/ph250/kumar2/)
"The authors did not directly observe cooling, mostly because they did not thermally isolate the diode, instead they chose to keep the temperature fixed! They calculate the net cooling. In simple terms, one would not observe cooling in the recombination dominated region."
In the recombination dominated region I expect : 0 change in Kelvin !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 17, 2019, 12:25:18 PM
       "C. THE RATIO FROM POWER FACTOR AND HEAT FACTOR APPLIED "( + Newton* meter Factor)

                  " picowatts "- device as q.e.d. for him and his POWER KW/KVA RATIO description :               
               to  mega.         

 http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=2733719&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-power-from-pW-to-W.html :'(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 17, 2019, 12:34:19 PM
Small update.
To everyone.
Do you have Made in China Joule Thief type  HiVoltage transformer, Tesla style?
https://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mjrpl-NbzG9qfntqZiM2lcw.jpg
Do you have "metal water pipe"?
All magic is in "pipe" and in the HiVoltge source.
When you playing with Sparks, Ozzone :), nothing extraordinary.
But when you attach "water pipe" through wire to the violet terminal of the mini Tesla style transformer, be very very carefull, because "mixture" of Currents can kill you!
I get internal burning of my finger with "cooked flesh" smell and black dot.
This is that.
When you have these 2 parts together and if you make loop, than we can get "energy".
Kapanadze love that word.
Энэргия пошла!
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2019, 01:02:03 PM
https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-power-from-pW-to-W.html (https://www.unitjuggler.com/convert-power-from-pW-to-W.html) :'(
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds (https://www.wired.co.uk/article/230-percent-efficient-leds)
VA~ W ( several power definitions!) VAh ~ Wh
LED:                          Unit VOLT x Unit AMPERE ~ Unit Lux as power indicator

                                  1/2 from above Unit VOLT x ? Units Ampere ~ Units Lux

                                  as reduced a . Light b. electric power factor

                                   FACTOR OF FOUR : FACTOR OF TWO


Mukherjee device:

DC-motor( and generator) in one + Controle-Unit
Technical process to counterbalance F( orce) :

                                                                  balance,wagging,

                                                                left side leg and right side leg

Left side leg :
Paragraph : " If in a conventional generator the field strengh B.......  F= B LI

Right side leg :
Paragraph : " If the field strength of the electrical device -edit: is- 2B...... F'=2Bx L x I


F/F': B/2B : 1/2 Ampere current x 1/2 nominal Voltage = 1/4 nominal VoltxAmpere

Edit : f.e. B/10B : 1/10 Ampere current x 1/10 nominal Voltage = 1/100 nominal Volt x Ampere

              ( Counter-) BALANCE OF POWER

 Pico-Watt ...... Watt, KiloWatt, MegaWatt

 ::) IS this the End?  NO,  coil length = the I from BxLxI variation and
 the " pure output energy force" can be also extracted from the shaft : kinetic force/ energy as power source

There are many FE devices,  based by physics formula applying and logical maths. ! Conventional EE-regime and Quantum-regime!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2019, 01:55:14 PM
To have a pure 80% -<100% pure electromagnetic converter is a very good beginning  !                           
1Watt-hour source : seems not much
1 hour = 60 min. = 3600 sec.
Let 1 Wh cycling 3600 times/h= 3600 Wh
Hertz: " motionfree" rotation/ cycling
Hz,KiloHz,MegaHerz,GigaHz,TeraHz,....
1 Wh x THz- times : ? Wh
-------
80% to < 100% EMF efficiency
+ elektret EF and/ or  permanent rmagnet MMF
Efficiency amplifier : > 100%
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 17, 2019, 08:33:14 PM
Well, you guys really need to watch this video !!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_fRKxz_UNo)



thank you for so much help :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 17, 2019, 08:52:58 PM
Oh, happy days!

Article 17 EU General Data Protection Regulation (EU-GDPR). Privacy ...
www.privacy-regulation.eu/.../article-17-right-to-erasure-'right-to-be-forgotten'-GDPR...
Article 17 - Right to erasure ('right to be forgotten') - EU General Data Protection Regulation (EU-GDPR), Easy readable text of EU GDPR with many hyperlinks.

http://www.privacy-regulation.eu/en/article-18-right-to-restriction-of-processing-GDPR.htm
Article 18
EU GDPR
"Right to restriction of processing"
In that video, the guy gives a lot away if you listen.
Have you read the bit about G4 yet ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 17, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
Yeah well that starts real soon can't you wait? anyway did you get anything from it ?

well since i'm from the EU . i have to wait what i be ordered to do ,, so you wont get it.


your a real help to this topic .. thank you verry much  ( for nothing)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 17, 2019, 09:39:27 PM
https://youtu.be/wFiW2lqdnlM?t=604 (https://youtu.be/wFiW2lqdnlM?t=604)

Wesley
Personal opinion expressed only
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 17, 2019, 10:12:33 PM
https://youtu.be/wFiW2lqdnlM?t=604 (https://youtu.be/wFiW2lqdnlM?t=604)
Testing will start 23 days from now
First electrical energy delivery outside  the continent  1 year from now
After that any device  like Kapanadze may be hunted as a crime of illegal  use electrical energy  delivered  from Viziv.
So you guys may  1 year from now be fighting big corporate money machine, if you say that your device  has got electrical energy from the ground
 It is you who must prove innocent  not them
Wesley
Personal opinion expressed only

Hi Wesley. Interesting. I personally am more inclined to think the energy for
Kapanadze/Daly/Akula etc. devices may be coming from some unknown source other
than some type of EM waves in the ground, but I don't know for sure of course.  Anything is possible.
All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 17, 2019, 10:30:08 PM
little more of Viziv tower
https://youtu.be/erbTVkrn9hk?t=142
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 17, 2019, 11:24:14 PM
Hi Wesley. They seem to have some serious investment money behind them.
All the engineering and construction for that big tower will not have been cheap.
The problem with transmitting power through the ground, assuming it eventually
works to some degree or other, is I think that many people may well try to figure out
how to tap into it and get free electricity. It seems to me that would be pretty hard to detect. 
A lot of people put up pirate satellite TV antennas and receivers to receive satellite TV for free. :)
Also, I think they got a grant, but a grant wouldn't likely cover all the costs for all the R&D and construction
on a big project like that. I wonder who is funding these guys? Someone with apparently lots of money anyway...

Who needs a Kapanadze free energy device if the Corum brothers are going to transmit
free power to me. All I have to do is figure out how to build a portable Corum brothers power receiver,
and I can use it where ever I go to get free power.  ;D

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 17, 2019, 11:25:33 PM
Kanarev says in conclusions, that his tests prove OU consistently

http://guns.connect.fi/innoplaza/energy/story/Kanarev/generator/

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 18, 2019, 03:42:00 AM
Memo
Links to remember :
1.https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03000465 (https://rd.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF03000465)
2.https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2008103130A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2008103130A1/en)
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4.http://physics.oregonstate.edu/~minote/COURSES/ph632/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=emch7.pdf (http://physics.oregonstate.edu/~minote/COURSES/ph632/lib/exe/fetch.php?media=emch7.pdf)
5.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujYcDErKvAw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujYcDErKvAw)
6.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9fEkKB9lIw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9fEkKB9lIw)
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Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 18, 2019, 10:08:28 AM
Wesley, #2386 : the last sentence :  ;)
Der Sohn eines Hannoveraners stolpert ueber einen "(ueber-)spitzen" " need"  !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYiHp9QUwE (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PAYiHp9QUwE)
" ..... wollen Bummsi-Bummsi machen ?" OMG  :o , Dictionary-Translation-Anarchie :P

Now the anglo-saxonic version - in short " inglitsch( Rutsch-Danger 8) !)" :
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Gn6a3WbYw (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Gn6a3WbYw)
" .. bouncy, bouncy... ?" OMG  :o , Dictionary-Translation-Pornography  ;D

               "need": phonetic : nees cause a soft "d"~ s
                             Niss~ Brauchen
Saxonics " (ge-)niessen", not to  misunderstand with " nissen : Hattschi : Gesundheit  ! "

   For yor list :  https://www.google.com/search?q=spintronic&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=spintronic&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)


 http://www.pakua.com/sintonia/?lang=dehttps://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pakua.com%2Fsintonia%2F%3Flang%3Dde (http://www.pakua.com/sintonia/?lang=dehttps://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pakua.com%2Fsintonia%2F%3Flang%3Dde)

                       Less Stress
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EWWyJfgPc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v_EWWyJfgPc)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 18, 2019, 04:32:49 PM
These are not Schumann's resonance waves in Kapanadze's devices.
I think you will find all the KT device ones that work are base 8 or 9 or a combination and even the Don Smith device was 31k5 (3+1+5=9)!
Or you could do it the dummy's way 31,500khz / 9  goes 3500 times! which is the Univers! or the God number
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 18, 2019, 04:34:24 PM
Void,
I'm wondering if it intended to replace the wired grid but not the power generating hubs? I cannot see this idea being viable unless all infrastrucure costs, including de-commissioning and removal of the existing grid networks are bourne by the tax paying public, so therefore, only escalating energy costs to look forward to. Also, the system will need to be able to pinpoint all leakage and illegal tap points to stop guys like you from getting a free   meal  ;) There are likely to be H&S issues that although unlikely to raise real problems to its implementation in the US, may well in Europe under its present political structure. So, likely just a rich guys toy at present.

Hi Hoppy. Yes, I would guess that is the plan. Maintaining the wired power grid is
very costly, so if power corporations could do away with all that cost by sending power
to most places via the ground, they could greatly increase profits, and that is what
corporations are all about. Maximizing profits. Yes, at this point it just appears to be
an expensive experiment, so that is why I was curious who all is funding this project.
It will be interesting to see what they can do with their variation of a Tesla magnifying transmitter
tower under a new name.  :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 18, 2019, 10:45:12 PM
Brain-Space~ Gedanken-Raum :  Space-Age-Creativity

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Winfield+salisbury&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Winfield+salisbury&CPC=&IC=)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Siegfried+stargard&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Siegfried+stargard&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Dd&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Manfred+gregor&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Dd&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Manfred+gregor&CPC=&IC=)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 19, 2019, 10:48:24 AM
Most likely not. We do not see him make any fine tuning adjustments and the length of ground cable appears not to be critical, as he swops over from the radiator ground wire to the water pipe ground and these are very different lengths of wire. The electrical conductivity of the ground is probably more important, as the device appears to work better on the water pipe ground. I think Ansis is closer to the truth, that the device is using the water pipe with its 'hard' connection to grid earth as part source of the energy supplied to the device. I think the discussion would be more productive if ideas on how indirect grid connected powering might be achieved, that is without a straight and faked direct connection to Tariel's house mains consumer unit, at least to eliminate this possibility, rather than continue with the more complex and esoteric idea of powering with surface waves.


There are rather two possibilities:
1.The system works by supplying it with energy through air and ground. Just like the Tesla wireless system.
2.On the principle of accelerating electrons by an HV resonator.

#1 - the success of such a system is 100% and this is a scam.
#2 - such systems have low efficiency but all work 100Mhz to nGhz
What would happen if they were forced to operate on frequencies of 10Mhz and less?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 11:56:42 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YsuEeCTqs (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9YsuEeCTqs)
::)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2019, 01:08:52 PM
Hi!
There is only 1 biggg problem with Kapanadze "coil"(That is not Tesla Coil).
We need Sinuss+Spark.
Every transformer with 50-400Hz range, have metal cores.
Ferrite is used at much higher frequencys.
In original? Kapanadze drawing we see Ferrite+Bifilar type of core-coil.
In fact, my friend tell me, look at Kapanadzes desktop!
There was black material and hammer.
Skype commrades remember what I write about very low technology of Kapanadze.
We see primitive laboratory.
No HiEnd.
Core is veryvery important part of All "FreeEnergy" generators.
TPU or Kapanadze use the same principle.
MagneticField multiplication with Mechanic type of resonators!!!
I think, we must copy Kapanadzes coil.
And yes.
Inductor 6 turns is connected in series with 6+6 fat wires(Litz or simple?).
It is important to feel all lenth of coil with Magnetic Pulse+Sinuss!
It is for Maximum efficiency.
Maybe Spark must be tuned to Maximum and Minimum of 50Hz "modulation".
To make copy of that coil we need 1?- 3? days?
We need 2 generators.
I have only oscilloscope and no generators.
I use PC. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 19, 2019, 01:16:44 PM
The system must be open or grounded. This is the basis for further action.
The principle is the same only describes it differently.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 19, 2019, 01:26:12 PM
http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier


The " magnetic amplifier" for itself is a system control device !  Which makes part for a semi-loop FE-device !
Loop-/ closed systems= storage 

generating maschines: open input/output circuit  !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 03:40:41 PM

if you look how slopy his kontraptions are made i would say if anything than a few khz .. but never MHZ ore above.

how ever i said this long bevore. Look at all the work they put in to the groundingpoint  and than look what cable the use
one woult think  if you want to have a perfekt ground you keep the distance close to your device and  use som substandcial wire for that.. but they don't so what does this wire?
Agreed, in electrical best practice sense but I think Tariel chose his demonstration area as higher importance over the location of the grounding point. So, the ground is important to the optimum efficient functioning of the device but its length is not critical in my opinion. We observed no evidence that the device could operate without the ground wire, despite Tariel's comment to the contrary. However, we did observe that the quality of the earth connection had a marked effect on the brightness of the lamp load. Also, the heavy gauge of the ground wire and clamp meter readings, suggests that it may have been carrying a heavy current but not necessarily at a full grid voltage level. How could Tariel have powered his device from a cleverly 'processed' high differential ground voltage, so as not to have registered on his consumer electricity meter and without making any wire connections within his service compartment / box / cupboard? Remember, at the time Tariel carried out his box demos, grid power 'tapping' was well practised and widespread in Georgia. We need to totally eliminate the liklihood of this before seriously considering the alternative more technically complex possibilities already put forward.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 19, 2019, 04:00:45 PM

if you look how sloppy his contraptions are made I would say if anything than a few kHz .. but never MHZ ore above.

however, I said this long before. Look at all the work they put into the grounding point and then look what cable the use one would think if you want to have a perfect ground you keep the distance close to your device and use some substantial wire for that.. but they don't so what does this wire?

I don't think so! You really need to read more
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
To lancalV.
Ordinary MA use Direct Current for amplification of Amplitude Current.
I think there is no FE in MA only.
Current came from Accumulators.
If Tariel steal energy from grid, than Figure 9 is candidate of "magic".
But...
Just think little bit different!
If we get super mega magnetic material with Supermaloy or beter magnetic properties, we can save DC.
Chubinidze use Supermaloy(Пермалой).
In Audio Amplifiers Supermaloy use for Small Signal amplification.
Because of High Efficiency transformers was small, but effective in 20-20000Hz.
But material is very expensive and I have no money for experiments, but I use very
small piece for 25Hz flutter and wow elimination. Very effective!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 19, 2019, 05:06:14 PM
To lancalV.
Ordinary MA use Direct Current for amplification of Amplitude Current.
I think there is no FE in MA only.
Current came from Accumulators.
If Tariel steal energy from grid, than Figure 9 is candidate of "magic".
But...
Just think little bit different!
If we get super mega magnetic material with Supermaloy or beter magnetic properties, we can save DC.
Chubinidze use Supermaloy(Пермалой).
In Audio Amplifiers Supermaloy use for Small Signal amplification.
Because of High Efficiency transformers was small, but effective in 20-20000Hz.
But material is very expensive and I have no money for experiments, but I use very
small piece for 25Hz flutter and wow elimination. Very effective!

Supermaloy ? What to do? to Mhz resonance ?

there is no magic core there.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 05:11:16 PM
To lancalV.

Current came from Accumulators.

What current comes from accumulators? Please expand on your statements.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2019, 05:23:22 PM
To Hoppy.
http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier
You must read that.
It was respond to lancalV link.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 19, 2019, 06:01:16 PM
Hello Ansis, a new beginning  ?  ;)
Okay,

A.  http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier (http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier)
      Figure 3,4

B.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3HBoKPbOQAC (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lB3HBoKPbOQAC) AC-circuit + DC-controle circuit

C.  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFAe3rArCg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cBFAe3rArCg)


Comment : 2nd poste Alex Manzanero  then Doug Konzen
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYDbHhbaNY. 
 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QoYDbHhbaNY)Part 6

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDXKnk9hFMI (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDXKnk9hFMIPart)
Part (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pDXKnk9hFMIPart) 5
https://m.youtube.com/user/kdkinen (https://m.youtube.com/user/kdkinen)

EMF + MMF
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RIAQvvfAE0M)

EMF + MMF

https://tesla3.com/hilden-brand-jack/ (https://tesla3.com/hilden-brand-jack/)
  "..Double the flux lines four times the force... "  electromagnetic valve  a. DC circuit b. Impulse DC   a2. force amplifying  b. force neutralisation


1 x AC- circuit + 2 x DC circuits

Magnetic Amplifyer circuit feed and battery feedback circuit  ? ( Made in Algerie)

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true& (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1#)locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19831209&CC=FR&NR=2528257A1&KC=A1#)

The above feed and feedback circuit also useable here :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=JP&NR=H11204353A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19990730&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 06:03:56 PM
To Hoppy.
http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier (http://www.nutsvolts.com/magazine/article/the_magnetic_amplifier)
You must read that.
It was respond to lancalV link.
OK. You were referring to the MA DC bias current. What do you think would be the effect of using a pulsed HV DC bias current as I suggested in my earlier post- 2399?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 19, 2019, 07:17:40 PM
It appears I have a different perspective than at least some of you guys on this. :) I think that the energy
source may at least possibly be the surrounding 'ambient environment' as Kapanadze has said,
meaning not specifically drawing the extra energy from the ground in some sort of classical way (not a
classical electrical energy 'receiver'). What the exact mysterious energy source might be is anyone's guess however. :)
My view about this possibility is based on some observations of these type of setups, but also based on some
things I have observed in my experiments in the last two to three years as well.

I have mentioned that I have been experimenting on a setup that is not related to Kapanadze setups or similar,
and up till now I have not seen anything in my tests that would really suggest 'OU', but in the last few days
I tried a new variation, and with some new adjustments last night I see something that I will say is 'potentially interesting'.
I have been at this type of experimenting for quite a few years so I don't jump to any conclusions at all when
I see something in my testing that is showing something potentially interesting, but my latest test setup
is at least showing some *possible* potential. :) It is only very low power right now and I will need to investigate a lot
further to see if I can scale this 'effect' up with the eventual goal of trying to make the setup self-looped. The power
output is just too low right now to try to self loop it.

Basically I am testing with a 12V 5AH SLA battery and only powering a very small load that measures total
battery power draw of about 19mW (I know a very tiny load for 5AH battery :) ), but the voltage on the battery
has not dropped below 13.20V for about 12 hours of continuous running so far. I have been using this type
of SLA battery in my testing for several years and I know those batteries will normally quite quickly fall
below 12.9V even when powering such a small load,  even with some energy feedback to the battery.

My current test setup has feedback back to the battery as well, but it is holding (so far) at 13.20V. I know
what specific changes I made to get this new type of result. It is way too early to say if my latest test setup is
really drawing in some 'extra energy' or not however, (and as we all know, chances are it isn't), but the results so
far are at least interesting.

The setup does not rely on any earth ground to work. I am making no assumptions here about OU whatsoever
as it is way too early to try to draw any conclusions, (I know better than that ;) ), but the reason I am mentioning
all this is this setup is testing a specific type of approach to try to draw in extra energy into the system, and
it has nothing to do with drawing in extra energy from the ground. If by some small chance it really is drawing
in extra energy from outside my test setup, then it is not coming from the ground. It would have to
be coming from the 'ambient', whatever that might be. :)

Question for Hoppy or anyone else with an electronics background or experience with opto isolators: 
I am using opto isolated Mosfets (opto isolators driving the gates) to try to avoid any potential coupling
of energy from the Mosfet driving circuitry (energy coupling from the gate drivers to the drain/source).
In your experience/estimation, could any energy still couple from the gate drivers to the Mosfet
drain/source if I am using opto isolators to drive the gates of the Mosfets I am using? One possible source for
extra energy in my test setup might of course be the gate drivers if the opto isolators can still capacitively
couple energy from the driver circuitry through the opto isolators to the drain/source side of the Mosfets.
However, if energy could be coupled through an opto isolator that way, it would kind of defeat the
purpose of an opto isolator completely isolating the gate driving circuitry from the transistor itself, no?
The operating frequency for the mosfets in my test is below 100 Hz, so any coupling due to capacitance from the
gate driving circuitry to the mosfets should be small anyway at below 100 Hz, I would think anyway.
Any feedback on this from anyone with experience with opto isolators will be appreciated. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 07:42:22 PM

Question for Hoppy or anyone else with an electronics background or experience with opto isolators: 
I am using opto isolated Mosfets (opto isolators driving the gates) to try to avoid any potential coupling
of energy from the Mosfet driving circuitry (energy coupling from the gate drivers to the drain/source).
In your experience/estimation, could any energy still couple from the gate drivers to the Mosfet
drain/source if I am using opto isoaltors on the gates of the Mosfets I am using? One possible source for
extra energy in my test setup might of course be the gate drivers if the opto isolators can still capacitively
couple energy from the driver circuitry through the opto isolators to the drain/source side of the Mosfets.
However, if energy could be coupled through an opto isolator that way, it would kind of defeat the
purpose of an opto isolator completely isolating the gate driving circuitry from the transistor itself, no?
The current frequency for the mosfets is below 100 Hz, so any coupling due to capacitance from the
gate driving circuitry to the mosfets should be small anyway at below 100 Hz, I would think anyway.
Hi Void,
I would hope not given their electrical isolation spec!
In regards to your experiment, as you will probably appreciate it is very unlikely that even if you use the same battery, intervals between tests will alter results. This is why, if you recall, that JB best practice test guidelines were to always condition LA batteries over a number of cycles before doing a number of load tests (at least 10), then averaging the results on the number of load tests conducted. Comparing results with long time intervals between them, despite using identical test setups, when using LA batteries, especially SLABS, is not good science in my opinion.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 19, 2019, 07:50:01 PM
It appears I have a different perspective than at least some of you guys on this. :) I think that the energy
source may at least possibly be the surrounding 'ambient environment' as Kapanadze has said,
meaning not specifically drawing the extra energy from the ground in some sort of classical way (not a
classical electrical energy 'receiver'). What the exact mysterious energy source might be is anyone's guess however. :)
My view about this possibility is based on some observations of these type of setups, but also based on some
things I have observed in my experiments in the last two to three years as well.

I have mentioned that I have been experimenting on a setup that is not related to Kapanadze setups or similar,
and up till now I have not seen anything in my tests that would really suggest 'OU', but in the last few days
I tried a new variation, and with some new adjustments last night I see something that I will say is 'potentially interesting'.
I have been at this type of experimenting for quite a few years so I don't jump to any conclusions at all when
I see something in my testing that is showing something potentially interesting, but my latest test setup
is at least showing some *possible* potential. :) It is only very low power right now and I will need to investigate a lot
further to see if I can scale this 'effect' up with the eventual goal of trying to make the setup self-looped. The power
output is just too low right now to try to self loop it.

Basically I am testing with a 12V 5AH SLA battery and only powering a very small load that measures total
battery power draw of about 19mW (I know a very tiny load for 5AH battery :) ), but the voltage on the battery
has not dropped below 13.20V for about 12 hours of continuous running so far. I have been using this type
of SLA battery in my testing for several years and I know those batteries will normally quite quickly fall
below 12.9V even when powering such a small load,  even with some energy feedback to the battery.

My current test setup has feedback back to the battery as well, but it is holding (so far) at 13.20V. I know
what specific changes I made to get this new type of result. It is way too early to say if my latest test setup is
really drawing in some 'extra energy' or not however, (and as we all know, chances are it isn't), but the results so
far are at least interesting.

The setup does not rely on any earth ground to work. I am making no assumptions here about OU whatsoever
as it is way too early to try to draw any conclusions, (I know better than that ;) ), but the reason I am mentioning
all this is this setup is testing a specific type of approach to try to draw in extra energy into the system, and
it has nothing to do with drawing in extra energy from the ground. If by some small chance it really is drawing
in extra energy from outside my test setup, then it is not coming from the ground. It would have to
be coming from the 'ambient', whatever that might be. :)

Question for Hoppy or anyone else with an electronics background or experience with opto isolators: 
I am using opto isolated Mosfets (opto isolators driving the gates) to try to avoid any potential coupling
of energy from the Mosfet driving circuitry (energy coupling from the gate drivers to the drain/source).
In your experience/estimation, could any energy still couple from the gate drivers to the Mosfet
drain/source if I am using opto isolators to drive the gates of the Mosfets I am using? One possible source for
extra energy in my test setup might of course be the gate drivers if the opto isolators can still capacitively
couple energy from the driver circuitry through the opto isolators to the drain/source side of the Mosfets.
However, if energy could be coupled through an opto isolator that way, it would kind of defeat the
purpose of an opto isolator completely isolating the gate driving circuitry from the transistor itself, no?
The operating frequency for the mosfets in my test is below 100 Hz, so any coupling due to capacitance from the
gate driving circuitry to the mosfets should be small anyway at below 100 Hz, I would think anyway.
Any feedback on this from anyone with experience with opto isolators will be appreciated. :)

This is very interesting, since in my perspective you cannot get extra energy using classical methods. Like how I see a transformer is that L1 agitates the ambient and as a result you get energy in L2. The problem here is that in L1 you return the energy to the negative rail and it destroys the source. So L2 is free energy minus some resistances or what ever and it can't ever go over what L1 was taking.

You might not see the same as I do or you might claim I'm just full of bullshit, but maybe you can admit that just by changing the perspective you can now see a transformer in a new light AND you are already using free energy. So the OU question is how to agitate L1 without destroying the source?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 19, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
Hi Void,
I would hope not given their electrical isolation spec!
In regards to your experiment, as you will probably appreciate it is very unlikely that even if you use the same battery, intervals between tests will alter results. This is why, if you recall, that JB best practice test guidelines were to always condition LA batteries over a number of cycles before doing a number of load tests (at least 10), then averaging the results on the number of load tests conducted. Comparing results with long time intervals between them, despite using identical test setups, when using LA batteries, especially SLABS, is not good science in my opinion.

Hi Hoppy. Thanks for the feedback. Regarding the SLA's, perhaps, but sometimes you just have to
be practical however. Little SLA batteries are very convenient for doing bench testing where you
want to try to feed back energy from the circuit being driven back to the supply battery. I have been
testing with these same SLA batteries for several years now and I know their characteristics quite well now
at different current draws. Even with very small current draws these small 5AH SLA batteries
will always drop from their rest voltage down to about 12.9V at least within about an hour or so, if not quicker,
depending on the exact current draw, and then continue to fall from there at a slower rate. I do know
for sure that the SLA battery I am testing with holding at 13.20V for over 12 hours now with a
measured current draw of just below 1.5 mA on an analog ammeter with a 10mA full scale, is at least out
of the ordinary for these batteries, and I have done a lot of testing over the last few years with these same batteries.
At any rate I am not attempting to draw any sort of conclusions at all yet, as I have mentioned. I am currently
looking for possible mundane sources of 'extra energy' into my test setup that uses opto isolated mosfets , so that is
why I was asking for opinions on the the opto isolators, for example.

Something else to keep in mind here about lead acid batteries is that their charge and discharge efficiencies
are apparently rated at around 50% to 90%, depending on the exact lead acid battery type and how new the
lead acid battery is, and the operating conditions, etc., so when current is drawn from a LA battery there
is energy loss in the internal resistance in the battery, and energy is also lost when charging a LA battery as well.
I think it is not overstepping too much to say that a 5AH lead acid battery holding at 13.20V after 12 hours with a
measured average current draw of about 1.5 mA isn't too bad, even if it has nothing to do with OU, which
the chances are. At any rate, it will be interesting to see if this current test setup continues to hold at 13.20V
for much longer, or if it starts to fall off soon. :)
 
Hi Belfior:
I have an open mind. I have actually considered and looked into many things over the last several years.
Don Smith was the first I personally came across to throw around ideas about drawing in energy from the ambient.
I have tested many different approaches over the years just to get a better understanding of how different
arrangements really perform in practice. Often, certain approaches outlined in forums like this don't work at all
as claimed when you actually test them and put them through their paces. The main problem is this, all circuit
components have losses. Batteries have internal resistance as well so batteries have losses just from drawing
current from a battery. Capacitors, diodes, and transformers and even air core coils and have losses, as well
as active devices like transistors as well. Loads connected to the secondary of a transformer reflect back to the
primary side for all intents and purposes, and thus increase the overall power consumption. This is why some people
have tried to build specially wound 'lenzless' transformer designs, but from what I have seen that approach
has not proven successful, at least from what I have seen. Lenz law describes why a coil or wire acts as a coil
or wire, so beating Lenz law seems to not make sense to me. To achieve OU, we have to overcome all sorts of
losses in our circuit setups, so the only way I can see that happening is to be able to draw in extra energy from
outside your test setup. This would have to be quite considerable to overcome all circuit losses in a typical scenario
I think. It is therefore not an easy task by any means, IMO. :)

P.S. An update on my test setup. Just measured the battery voltage and it has now finally dropped 0.01V
down to 13.19V. Not bad I think considering the battery's unloaded rest voltage after charging and then sitting for
a while was around 13.28V. This is the best results I have had with this type of setup so far, so I seem
to at least be making some small improvements in overall efficiency. :) Based on these latest results I
think it is worth my putting in more effort to try to improve performance further and to try to scale it
up to higher power. I typically only have some time on weekends lately to work on it, so it will
move along slowly. It's a time consuming process... It can take a lot of thinking and work and testing, etc.
just to make tiny gains in efficiency. Not saying anything at all about OU, just working on trying to make
improvements to the overall efficiency.  :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2019, 08:52:40 PM
To Hoppy.
There is Classic Physics and "Underground".
In real life we just make circuits.
In FE? field, which is more like "magic", we try to make play like alchemy guru's, but "are we guru's?"
All that what we know, see, think is more like an illussion.
Because it is so much easyer to fake something than try to give explanation of that.?
OK.
Let's be honest.
I have no FE device.
No of my friends in Latvia is not have FE device.
To fake FE is simple.
We take "pipe".
We take "nothing" and pipe+nothing=something.
:)
Easy.
There is many David's Copetfield's.
Remember Train which wanish?
Magic?
Or trick?
P.S. For me is important to understand, who is lie'er, who is scam'er and where is possibilities of something I don't understand or don't know.
Dear Hoppy, I am ordinary and I don't know is DC Current Spikes can make magic, but there is MF Amplification in that process. Polar Pulse? Unipolar? All FE community is so stupid, because we not collect results!!!! We just blahh blahh blahh. No. Everything must be documented, shered, published and "team" must be learned of members try's, errors, discoverys... It's not happening. Only fight... If you really want proof/ reject something which is related with FE? than we must take action and say: Yes or No (Jesus words).
I hope You understand.
Smile.
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 09:58:32 PM
Hi Void,
Thanks for your reply. I spent around four years and countless hours running in depth battery load testing with Bedini energisers using SLA and wet cell LA batteries. The Peukert effect at fractions of the C10 discharge current levels, gives some very surprising results as you are observing. JB used this effect, coupled with a degree of inductive back spiking helping to desulfate / clean plates, to run some of his energisers for many years on small LA batteries.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 19, 2019, 10:01:47 PM
Hi Ansis. There is nothing at all wrong with the idea that people could potentially make better progress
here if everyone worked as a team and openly shared their knowledge and work and test results, etc.
However, in reality it is a very small few who really do the actual work and put in the long hours experimenting
and who really know what they are talking about. That is the real problem. People will tend not to be so inclined
to share too much of their hard work and hard earned knowledge in situations like that. It is understandable, no? :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2019, 10:09:03 PM
Yes. I know, understand.
I hope someone proof fake or make FE? in one day!
But, I don't believe.
Perpetum Mobile is more than 100 years old, but never exist!
:)
Good night!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 19, 2019, 10:16:19 PM
Hi Void,
Thanks for your reply. I spent around four years and countless hours running in depth battery load testing with Bedini energisers using SLA and wet cell LA batteries. The Peukert effect at fractions of the C10 discharge current levels, gives some very surprising results as you are observing. JB used this effect, coupled with a degree of inductive back spiking helping to desulfate / clean plates, to run some of his energisers for many years on small LA batteries.

Hi Hoppy. Thanks. Yes, I am well aware of all those things. However, I have probably run about
40 or 50 test runs with close variations of this particular arrangement alone in the last couple of months,
so I know well what is normal discharge rates for my specific setup and what is out of the ordinary.
The latest results do appear to be somewhat out of the ordinary compared to all the other test runs. However, I certainly
could still be overlooking something which is contributing to the seeming out of the ordinary results I am seeing, 
and I am still looking into it to see if I could be overlooking something. No one said this type of experimenting is easy. :)
It really takes a lot of careful analysis and testing to try to avoid getting tripped up. Ha ha.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 19, 2019, 10:56:04 PM
Yes. I know, understand.
I hope someone proof fake or make FE? in one day!
But, I don't believe.
Perpetum Mobile is more than 100 years old, but never exist!
:)
Good night!

Hi Ansis. You seem to be confusing 'perpetuum mobile' with a system
that has a COP > 1. I suggest you read up on heat pumps to get an idea of
what COP > 1 means. People often use the term 'over unity' because it is a
relatively commonly known term, but COP > 1 is the correct way to describe how
a free energy setup would supposedly work. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 19, 2019, 11:22:41 PM

P.S. For me is important to understand, who is lie'er, who is scam'er and where is possibilities of something I don't understand or don't know.
Dear Hoppy, I am ordinary and I don't know is DC Current Spikes can make magic, but there is MF Amplification in that process. Polar Pulse? Unipolar? All FE community is so stupid, because we not collect results!!!! We just blahh blahh blahh. No. Everything must be documented, shered, published and "team" must be learned of members try's, errors, discoverys... It's not happening. Only fight... If you really want proof/ reject something which is related with FE? than we must take action and say: Yes or No (Jesus words).
I hope You understand.
Smile.
 :)
Hi Ansis,
Yes, I do understand you. I agree that scientific method and team work is almost completely missing from these threads. Nonetheless, the threads are a source of information, true or false, to encourage thinking. Certain ideas have motivated me to experiment as I enjoy chasing the FE rainbow but not in a really serious way now that I'm retired from working for a living. There are other forums better suited for serious research but I like this one for a good general chat on FE concepts.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 01:49:29 AM
Hi all it might be a strange observation but to build something we need to know how it works and some idea
of some hardware to build apart from the circuit, I published on here what else is there?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 20, 2019, 05:30:03 AM
That is correct alien gray..
The way i understand it is the interpretation of the current displacement theory
of Maxwell or who ever the genius was. I watch the video of that lightning strike,
and what i observe is the igniter or seeding of the whole process happen from the atmosphere
and then the eternally charge earth respond. so the kapa circuit does the same but has to be at resonance
and in synchronization with the train of the standing wave set up in the earth line. One thing very very
important is the earth rod has to be super connected to the earth ground.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 20, 2019, 05:36:19 AM
@ VOID, to prove that an air conditioner is an over unity machine is easy.. It can more
efficiently cool your room and heat up water simultaneously than just cooling your room..
That has to be proven, but from my little experience that is over unity..Not by this observation,
but by calculating the electrical power consume as per the work done.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 20, 2019, 06:08:49 AM
@ VOID, to prove that an air conditioner is an over unity machine is easy.. It can more
efficiently cool your room and heat up water simultaneously than just cooling your room..
That has to be proven, but from my little experience that is over unity..Not by this observation,
but by calculating the electrical power consume as per the work done.

Hi seychelles. It is not over unity. For example the electric circuitry and electric components in a heat
pump are not producing more energy than they are consuming (which would be over unity), the heat
pump is pumping heat from one place to another. If the total energy in the heat that is pumped
is greater than the input electrical energy being expended by the heat pump circuitry, then
that would be a COP > 1. Look up coefficient of performance (COP) if you want to learn more about it.
All the best...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 20, 2019, 07:02:59 AM
What i am saying is that if a person calculate the time it take to cool a
1liter condenser, of water and heat up a different 1 liter  evaporator of
 water simultaneously one will come to the conclusion that the electrical power consume
 in this process compare to work done  is cop >1..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 08:34:36 AM
About heatpumps.
There is 1 Country which have Heatpumps with COP>10000 or more :)
It is Iceland.
Because they have Vulcanic heat for Free! :)
In Latvia where is cold in Winter, we are not so happy.
Peoples who make very deep drills in to the ground, get better results, but if they make cheep
setup, then COP≤1. I know many real stories...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 10:27:35 AM
About heatpumps.
There is 1 Country which have Heatpumps with COP>10000 or more :)
It is Iceland.
Because they have Vulcanic heat for Free! :)
In Latvia where is cold in Winter, we are not so happy.
Peoples who make very deep drills in to the ground, get better results, but if they make cheep
setup, then COP≤1. I know many real stories...
Searchmachine : Super Deep Fusion Drilling
Each place on earth can have this " Vulcano-deep whole"- dis-/advantage and explore potential
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 10:35:53 AM
What i am saying is that if a person calculate the time it take to cool a
1liter condenser, of water and heat up a different 1 liter  evaporator of
 water simultaneously one will come to the conclusion that the electrical power consume
 in this process compare to work done  is cop >1..
https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+cold+thermal+generator&client=firefox-b&oq=hot+cold+thermal+generator&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...21730.26639.0.27274.9.9.0.0.0.0.225.1382.1j7j1.9.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..2.7.1058.SjivexS_WCA (https://www.google.com/search?q=hot+cold+thermal+generator&client=firefox-b&oq=hot+cold+thermal+generator&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3...21730.26639.0.27274.9.9.0.0.0.0.225.1382.1j7j1.9.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..2.7.1058.SjivexS_WCA)
A very cold side for free ( Ant-/Arctic )or a very hot side for free ( Solar concentrating Tower ) ?
 Or a cold/colder/coldest cascade ( - 180° C ) Schukey Delta Omega Machine :

https://www.google.com/search?q=schukey+delta+omega&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=schukey+delta+omega&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)

Probably also by analyzing : "Diode" ! Material,  configuration, function in a conductor, effect
and micronizing such idea :
  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=28&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19920507&CC=DE&NR=4035445A1&KC=A1#)
for example for up to 2000x solar field concentrator cells as cooling device or Plasma charge controler

Easier : an " endless belt,  bimetalic" , hot bassin and cold bassin and belt moving from hot to cold to.....

Endless belt motor :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+motor&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+motor&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC=)

Endless belt generator :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+generator&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+generator&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC=)

Endless belt converter :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+converter&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=Endless+belt+converter&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 11:07:07 AM
Hi Hoppy. Thanks. Yes, I am well aware of all those things. However, I have probably run about
40 or 50 test runs with close variations of this particular arrangement alone in the last couple of months,
so I know well what is normal discharge rates for my specific setup and what is out of the ordinary.
The latest results do appear to be somewhat out of the ordinary compared to all the other test runs. However, I certainly
could still be overlooking something which is contributing to the seeming out of the ordinary results I am seeing, 
and I am still looking into it to see if I could be overlooking something. No one said this type of experimenting is easy. :)
It really takes a lot of careful analysis and testing to try to avoid getting tripped up. Ha ha.
Hi Void,
The problem in getting any meaningful results is that the useable capacity of an LA battery is clearly very dependant on the condition of its plates. Repeated load test cycles conducted with short intervals between them will show small improvements until the battery condition stabilises, which can take many cycles. Starting a series of test cycles after a few days rest will again exhibit the same general behaviour. The other problem is that equally timed re-charges from set voltage data points do not return equal amounts of capacity to a battery, so with non-linear charge and discharge curves, attempting to scientifically establish that there is a real FE effect when experimenting with LA batteries is in my opinion futile given battery vagaries.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 11:13:10 AM
Void,  there are " battery charger" studies : with-/ out software controle
By LA-batteries : memory-effect,  the first load DOD sometime decides!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on January 20, 2019, 11:19:09 AM
THE MOTHER AND FATHER OF FREE ENERGY IS EFFICIENCY AND
 ONE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE ENERGY IS COMING FROM. So ansi is
half correct, so here in Seychelles it is bloody hot and 80% humid, so the energy
is already available from the ambient air.. The air con is a very efficient heat pump.
I rest my case SOORY STIVEP..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 20, 2019, 11:31:55 AM
Well this was something I wasn't think I ever see. Egyptian djed pillar made out of stone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPuMugnCvQ

maybe tesla coils or other coil under it. I never believed djed was a battery, but a series cap
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 11:58:37 AM
About Bedini and LA batteries.
I work much with accumulators and everything which is done by Bedini is BS.
Sorry fans, I love true.
Battery is simple device and every battery die.
LA die of staying a side.
Just leave it without charging and it is dead.
LA must be Always under DC Current with Voltage which is more! than 6×2.1V=12,6V.
I have 13,2V on battery in Winter time always.
I use LM317 chip which works beautifully.
With Voltage allways connected LA battery can work 5-7 years.
Death is comming if we drop LA battery with Undervoltage.
It is 10V.
Never do that.
There is Rick Friedrich.
Listen about Bedini from him, BUT!!! He is sometimes shoot BS too.
He is right about plate deformations.
All other his theories is sometimes right sometimes BS.
Be wise!
Always!
 :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
Good advice Ansis.  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 12:42:41 PM
Hmm Lead Acid are crap I have one for my shed roof solar panel the LA cost a fortune and it wastes 50% and the regulator wastes another 30% of the energy I have some super caps I got when an electronics company went bust my advice is dump the lead acid and get Super caps as the price comes down
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 12:54:01 PM
Another thing The Akula device and Adrian Gustove machine has anyone got it going or had any results with it yet?

Only with Wesleys posting and Solar's posting there might be some other avenues to explore with the phase shift
rotating memento.
Only wasn't it strange how everyone had toroids working with a ring of PP3 batteries in them then it all died  ;D ;D
Joking apart though what happened to all Akulas designs?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 12:59:42 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 20, 2019, 01:03:09 PM
About Bedini and LA batteries.
I work much with accumulators and everything which is done by Bedini is BS.
Sorry fans, I love true.
Battery is simple device and every battery die.
LA die of staying a side.
Just leave it without charging and it is dead.
LA must be Always under DC Current with Voltage which is more! than 6×2.1V=12,6V.
I have 13,2V on battery in Winter time always.
I use LM317 chip which works beautifully.
With Voltage allways connected LA battery can work 5-7 years.
Death is comming if we drop LA battery with Undervoltage.
It is 10V.
Never do that.
There is Rick Friedrich.
Listen about Bedini from him, BUT!!! He is sometimes shoot BS too.
He is right about plate deformations.
All other his theories is sometimes right sometimes BS.
Be wise!
Always!
 :)

I have to thank Rick Friedrich for putting up all the don smith videos on YT, but I do not care for his theories that much. He is a Bedini funboy and worked with Bedini. Not a big fan of Bedini either. What is his legacy in this world, if we still have no free energy?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 01:05:51 PM
Yes,  I see the storage also actually as hurdle,
calculating with max.  40% battery capacity to load and only 300  cycles (~ 100% DoD)  lead batterie-set makes the free energy delivery 300-400% more expensive !

Interesting Dick Fradella his charge-device, he wrote in his older eartlink pages about life expectance expanding from a 90- days battery to 10 years ( 3650 days) daily use ! ( DoD ? Accumulated Output ? )

With positive and negative user/ criticaster feedback in the internet- heaven/ he'll :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bticcs.com%2Fpub.htm (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bticcs.com%2Fpub.htm)

About cap-"ery" technology progress as example ( Eestor,  what's happened?)
http://kilowattlabs.com/ (http://kilowattlabs.com/)
and Stanfords 200,000 cycles peak device :   https://newatlas.com/nanowire-electrode-hundreds-thousands/42926/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 01:18:55 PM
Note the Don Smith device charges up a cap much like a TV set scan circuit then at peak voltage it dumps the lot into the
LOPT and the flyback emp produces a huge spike of EHT but the protocol has something missing it's not ready for the next
cycle in the Steven |Mark video the other guy talks about using 8 spark plugs at 600hz
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
In fact for proof of Spark Amplification, we need only plastic pipe,
6 windings of Inductor, 6+6 windings of fat wire about 2-3mm(2) .
Than we need Darlingtone transistor (30W) and Induction Coil of Car+PC generator of impulses.
Than we need experimenting with "inside".
Bifilar? Normal? With core or not, with Ferrite rings/Magnets + Earth water pipe.
Thats all.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 01:58:55 PM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529449/topicseen/#msg529449 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg529449/topicseen/#msg529449)
#2084 :                    WHz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy)
Spectral Flux
Spectral Intensity
Spectral Radiance
Spectral Flux Density
Spectral Radiosity
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 02:25:27 PM
In fact for proof of Spark Amplification, we need only plastic pipe,
6 windings of Inductor, 6+6 windings of fat wire about 2-3mm(2) .
Than we need Darlingtone transistor (30W) and Induction Coil of Car+PC generator of impulses.
Than we need experimenting with "inside".
Bifilar? Normal? With core or not, with Ferrite rings/Magnets + Earth water pipe.
Thats all.
Ansis,
With respect, if you want people to fully understand your circuit idea, please draw a schematic. Your written description makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 20, 2019, 02:29:31 PM
Coil Kapanadze.
The material was a few days on the net and was removed.
Someone makes sure that information is not leaked.
Shown step by step on how to do it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 02:52:13 PM
To Hoppy.
Go back in history here in chat.
You will find original? Kapanadze drawing and my version of "what I see".
I think you will understad everything.
Just go back and scrool chat.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 03:27:21 PM
Ansis,  from Russia and C2= granted but international classification : H02N11/00 = alleged perp.  mob.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=5&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20131110&CC=RU&NR=2012118402A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=5&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20131110&CC=RU&NR=2012118402A&KC=A#)


               -------------------

Kapanadze : air core transformer ( ionizer tube) and converter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser
 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_ioniser)Electrostatic discharge ionizer   or           balanced ion generator

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Static_electricity
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 04:19:30 PM
Ansis,
With respect, if you want people to fully understand your circuit idea, please draw a schematic. Your written description makes no sense to me.
Hoppy does  Ansis mean a Car Plug Coil ?
but you can wind 6+6 turns on a TV EHT coil and get loads off volts off it too
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 04:25:50 PM
If you does see that video of Kapanadze, just look another time.
What do you see?
All Kapanadzes videos with original? Kapanadze drawing give very many information.
Very many peoples don't understand simple thing, Primary is Spark coil coil with Inductor.
Secondary is Output.
Thats all.
Super simple schematic.
There can be variations in connections.
Video: https://youtu.be/ceDEIg9ETbA
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 20, 2019, 04:35:40 PM
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-Henry (https://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-Henry)
That's all?


Motronik : internal or external ( air)  combustion engine process

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.powerboxer.de%2Ftheorie-technik%2F48-leistung-und-zeitpunkt (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.powerboxer.de%2Ftheorie-technik%2F48-leistung-und-zeitpunkt)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 04:39:52 PM
Hoppy does  Ansis mean a Car Plug Coil ?

That's what he says in his post above.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 05:03:40 PM
I take some pictures.
Just look and compare with original? drawing of Kapanadze.
We see. 2 parts..., but in GreenBox original? there is 1 Coil which is 2 Coils in one.
I call it "Matrjoshka" coil, it is from Russian Wood Doll, there is many smaller parts inside of Wood Doll.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 05:04:04 PM
That's what he says in his post above.
With respect you said

With respect, if you want people to fully understand your circuit idea, please draw a schematic. Your written description makes no sense to me.

all the postings in-between were not posted between my post and then, but point taken.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 05:16:12 PM
Ansis yes that device and modules along the back wall have you any idea what they do ? because I haven't and he must
have  batteries stored somewhere and capacitors and in the middle is that card with all those devices with heat sink tabs on
them 'mind-boggling' or is it all BS ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 05:17:28 PM
Did you see my "yellow" picture?
There you see 2 generators.
One 50Hz, second is Auto Car Induction coil which is for Spark generation.
I think all is working with 50Hz frequency for "water pipe" energy sucction from the grid.
Yes, yes, I know.
We must proof or reject that.
Thats it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 05:21:44 PM
To Alien.
There is Battery.
Of course.
No FE.
But!
Stimulation is only small amount of energy and there must be loop for recharging.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 20, 2019, 05:40:27 PM
Hi Void,
The problem in getting any meaningful results is that the useable capacity of an LA battery is clearly very dependant on the condition of its plates. Repeated load test cycles conducted with short intervals between them will show small improvements until the battery condition stabilises, which can take many cycles. Starting a series of test cycles after a few days rest will again exhibit the same general behaviour. The other problem is that equally timed re-charges from set voltage data points do not return equal amounts of capacity to a battery, so with non-linear charge and discharge curves, attempting to scientifically establish that there is a real FE effect when experimenting with LA batteries is in my opinion futile given battery vagaries.

HI Hoppy. Thanks for the comments. Yes, as I mentioned previously, I am aware of all of those
factors and taking it all into account. Also, as I mentioned, in the last couple of months I have done
about at least 40 test runs with my test arrangement with small variations. I therefore of course
have a very good idea of what is within normal variations for the battery and setup I am testing with and
what is not. :) I also mentioned that I am not attempting to draw any conclusions at this point, so
relax mate. :) Everything is well under control and very scientific. Couldn't possibly be more scientific. Ha ha. ;)

As I said before, if I think I see something that looks potentially interesting, I will try to scale it up
to higher power if possible, and with higher power I should be able to analyze better. Despite
what you say, if you leave a test setup using a battery running appropriately long enough with a reasonable load,
it will most definitely separate the wheat from the chaff.  I won't attempt to draw any definite conclusions without
doing all the appropriate testing first. You probably won't find a more cautious experimenter in this area than myself.
I don't try to draw conclusions unless there is very good reason to. Everything is well under control.  ;)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 05:44:54 PM
That's good news Void. Good luck.  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 05:48:47 PM
To Alien.
There is Battery.
Of course.
No FE.
But!
Stimulation is only small amount of energy and there must be loop for recharging.
Hi Ansis,
If there is no FE why is Kapanadze putting on these elaborate demos?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 06:01:19 PM
To Void.
I am very sorry, but if you never ever put your LA battery under 10V, than your battery go long way.
It is very important for everyone to know, Battery's love Current Charging which is 10 times less than Maximum Capacity.
Bedini type of Charge is Pulses.
It is very bad.
I am so sorry.
There is impulses, without Constant Current.
It is bad.
Battery MUST WORK!
It means we must charge/ discharge it!
LA is must be discharged to 10V, not more!
LA go to Sulfation when under 10V.
______________________________________________________
If you want your Smartphone/Laptop/Tablet battery work 5-7 years or more do simple thing.
Discharge to 5% of energy, emediatly charge it to 100% if you will use it now, if not, charge to 90%, switch off.
LiPo dont love storage with 4,2V.
Storge is good with 3,6V on element.
My electric bike battery storage voltage is 3,6V in Winter, when I not drive.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 06:08:19 PM
To Hoppy.
Kapanadze want 1 000 000$ for his device, but I think, that is not FE.
Do you think, Turks are stupid?
Thay does understand his trick.
I think like that, because no one is interesting in his device.
Only we, strange peoples.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 06:10:03 PM
To Hoppy.
Kapanadze want 1 000 000$ for his device, but I think, that is not FE.
Do you think, Turks are stupid?
Thay does understand his trick.
I think like that, because no one is interesting in his device.
Only we, strange peoples.
Agreed!  ;D That suggests that the fake was so simple you will laugh.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 20, 2019, 07:23:23 PM
Agreed!  ;D That suggests that the fake was so simple you will laugh.


No, it suggests that you guys are blindly speculating. ;)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 07:30:15 PM


No, it suggests that you guys are blindly speculating. ;)
Yes, we all are in the absence of any real evidence that the devices are genuine or not.  ;)
Anyway, I think we are now ready for another drenching from surface wave spec!  :o ;)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 07:52:57 PM
Nick,

If we dig any deeper we'll bury ourselves!  :D
Don't we just love this thread.  ::)
Will the real free energy device please stand up.  ;D
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on January 20, 2019, 07:59:20 PM
I see lots of room for digging yet.
I dig, therefore I am. :)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 20, 2019, 08:07:02 PM
I see lots of room for digging yet.
I dig, therefore I am. :)
Well, I'm just wondering how long the elephant intends to stay in the room.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 08:08:18 PM
Nice!
Today we start to think right!
Because of understanding of "fake nature of FE".
All these years peoples believe in possibility of "energy from nothing".
It is not possible.
Energy is from somwhere. Wind, Solar, Waves, Flow, Heat e.t.c.
Kapanadze coil is only extracion of Energy from grid?, medium?,
EM field through "water pipe" ground?
I am happy, because today we all understand it!
Hurray!
:)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 20, 2019, 09:25:10 PM
Hmm sounds like I've missed the shuttle to zeta reticule again back to Serpo!  ;D 8) 8) 8) it's a bright sun!

So where is Ansis's yellow picture ?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 10:24:57 PM
I post it here again?
I posted it in Overunity.com, but where?
OK. Take it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 20, 2019, 10:28:30 PM
And Kapanadzes original? picture too.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 21, 2019, 08:43:55 AM
And Kapanadzes original? picture too.
Yes I have seen that paper on another posting you made but not on OU  :o 8)
but thanks anyway. It's certainly an interesting idea. but not enough information he obviously knows much about stuff than us mushrooms in the west, kept in the dark and fed BS that's us!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 21, 2019, 12:19:08 PM
I don't agree that we need to charge&discharge batteries. I think we need to charge a cap with a battery, but then use that charge to do something and not let it go back to the negative rail.

If you charge a cap you just made the battery terminals a bit longer. You lost something in the resistances, but you didn't send mass charges into the negative terminal thus destroying a part of the polarity&potential. You need to remove the perversion from the circuits and that is the return line. You gotta to be a wizard to make up for all that energy you just used to destroy your own battery.

I think you can pretty much use any device for OU, if you just stop destroying your own power source.

Is there a way to raise voltage and then zap it back to the source? Connecting positive to positive has no effects, but what if you zap back something like the displacement current?

positive terminal -> DC pulse -> coil -> diode -> load coil -> cap plate1 so then we got load coil or cap plate2. one we use for load and one we use for recharging the battery
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 21, 2019, 12:40:28 PM
About" FE" battery tale.
All Bedini's and Beardens and others show something which is not exist in real life.
All they's motors, wheels and others kind of "magic" works in "no state" situation.
In real life, which is charging and discharging of Real Current, the only think which can save
accumulator today is to put parallel supercapacitors with accumulator, but price and selfdischarge is
situation when all that together is BS. :)

There is 2 bad situations when battery go dead.
First, battery is overdischarged with heavy loads+heat+physical damage of battery.
Second is scenario when battery work in soft mode without recharging properly.
To avoid that, we use proper batterys and chargers.
Some peoples use HiFrequency to "rejuvenate" battery.
It is BS.
When LA is sulfated, that is finish.
There is no real possibilities to make it new again.
I spend more than year to "play with magic devices", it is BS.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 21, 2019, 04:21:38 PM
This video of Master IVO is about Kapanadze device.
There is Ground+Bifilar interactions between.
https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78
There he is doing something which is about "strange" voltage rise on the Capacitor which is
conected through Abramenko plug to the ground(water pipe).
P.S. All that is important when we try to put "Kapanadze puzzle" together.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 21, 2019, 04:51:20 PM
Yes and this video too.
https://youtu.be/uhY27Zoor-Q
About Tesla bifilar coils properties.
He say, That type of coil have Standing Wave properties!, at Resonance frequency.
It is very "resonate" with my understanding of Kapanadze generator working principles.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 21, 2019, 07:49:47 PM
This video of Master IVO is about Kapanadze device.
There is Ground+Bifilar interactions between.
https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78 (https://youtu.be/xHDrmGPY-78)
There he is doing something which is about "strange" voltage rise on the Capacitor which is
conected through Abramenko plug to the ground(water pipe).
P.S. All that is important when we try to put "Kapanadze puzzle" together.

From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."
Quote
dielectric field can sometime be seen as:
The average total electric field acting upon a molecule or group of molecules inside a dielectric. Also known as internal dielectric field.

There is not static magnetic field in AC .However at the beginning  of video it is clear  +/_ suggesting DC.
But than we dealing with high current in DC  circuit,and than there is no capacitance in DC for that coil.There is no  fluctuating capacitance in  DC.Every aluminum foil based capacitor can be converted to  bifilar Tesla coil pancake structure.
Only for AC we are talking about significant  capacitive reactance in this structure.

For AC at 645kHz the third coil acts as secondary coil  of Tesla coil structure  .
Since we are dealing with  resonant transformer the ratio 2:1 cuts 50% of the voltage  and that equals
50V.
[(two primaryP connected  in series = P+P at 100V)-( second winding equal to  single primaryP)] =  P =50V
Than connected to Avramenko  Fork

The effect is NOT due to  "dielectric field"  of bifilar coil.
It is due to phase delay on the single wire transmission line where two ends of the diodes are  indicators of  delta T slow wave delay.
In this article :
http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Avramenko%27s%20Plug/single%20wire%20power%20transmission.htm (http://www.doctorkoontz.com/Scalar_Physics/Avramenko%27s%20Plug/single%20wire%20power%20transmission.htm) 


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 22, 2019, 10:43:39 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnrm8jT_6B8
Minute 6:00 : multimeter un touched/ touched : +- factor 10x
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 22, 2019, 12:49:02 PM
In my "yellow" picture I draw "direct amplification" circuit(not correct, but principle),
with output of 50Hz 220V.

But in Masters Ivo video which is here: https://youtu.be/KbtK9jrk_JI
We see another possibility(of course he work with wall power and water pipe),
of possible Kapanadze device explanation.
If he is capable to charge capacitors in very quick time, than Kapanadze type device,
can be DC to AC converter(but in Kapanadzes video there is only small boxes).
Of course we look at any explanations.
Why is this video important?
Because Kapanadze use that Abramenko plug for 1 or many purpoces.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 22, 2019, 02:23:54 PM
it's getting bether and bether :o

waiting for the next bombshell of nothing  8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on January 23, 2019, 12:47:17 AM
 
“From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
 First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."”  Wesley..
 
Eric Dollard  in this 1987 video at 8:18 min talks about “Dielectric” fields..
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE)
 
Classic borderland labs video from 1987. Eric Dollard gives a demonstration of the two sides of electricity, the decaying electromagnetic side and the growing dielectric side, and shows his singing Tesla coil burning Golden Ratio patterns into wood. Peter Lindemann demonstrates his Rotating Parametric Transformer operating at 108% efficiency. Shows an Alternating Current N-Machine providing the researcher with AC waveforms directly extracted from space. Amazing science from the golden days of borderland research!
 
 Acca..[/font]
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 23, 2019, 07:46:51 AM
Oh come on we know what Clark's game was and I don't buy into that game, we are more likely to end up like Venus burning fossil fuel and blowing shit into the air since that's the way to create an atmosphere on Mar known as terraforming.

What's your next excuse Solar?  8)  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 23, 2019, 12:51:26 PM
From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .

Great! Then I think he has a fair chance to find something useful...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 23, 2019, 01:40:57 PM
Today, I decide to prove something and I do.
At first we need 2 parts of devices.
One part is that HiVoltage transformer from ebay, I
gave a picture before. It is Joule Thief type device about 1,4$.
Second device is Impulse power convertor from Main 220V50Hz to 12V DC.
I use Z323 Logitech converter(it was laying around).


Setup is very simple. I charge capacitor on the Z323 with HiVoltage.
When Capacitor is reach about 150V DC in that moment power supply STARTS
and LED lamp consume energy which is stored in Z323 capactitor and FLASH out.


This is trusty experiment, because we see difference in charge/discharge time of
different kinds! of setup.


I will prove that, we can cheet when we work with old equipment in my case
C1-68 old russian type osciloscope.


Experiments is split in 2 parts.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Direct Capacitor charging without "ground" of Osciloscope connected to Z323 Capacitor (-) terminal.


Direct Capacitor charging with "ground" of Osciloscope connected to Z323 Capacitor (-) terminal.

Direct Capacitor charging with "ground" of Osciloscope with reversed AC terminals (Main cord of Osciloscope)  connected to Z323 (-) terminal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Second part is the same, but I use "water pipe" like "ground and Abramenko plug for Z323 Capacitor charging.


I will make schematic drawings and pictures with results in new post.





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 23, 2019, 03:06:03 PM
I use LiPo 18650 battery and Current consumption was 1.5A and Voltage was 3.0V under Current conditions.

I post here 4 pictures.
First with parts. (Is changed to Fourth)
Second with First experiment where I connect JT output to Diode Bridge.
Third with Abramenko plug connection.
Fourth I explain why "so strange results" is achieved.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 23, 2019, 03:09:16 PM
 
“From the video  I can see lack of understanding of classical properties of electromagnetic field .
 First there is no such  thing like  "dielectric field."”  Wesley..
 
Eric Dollard  in this 1987 video at 8:18 min talks about “Dielectric” fields..
 
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HaqcuRCsEE)
 
Classic borderland labs video from 1987. Eric Dollard gives a demonstration of the two sides of electricity, the decaying
electromagnetic side and the growing dielectric side, and shows his singing Tesla coil burning Golden Ratio patterns into wood.
Peter Lindemann demonstrates his Rotating Parametric Transformer operating at 108% efficiency. Shows an Alternating
Current N-Machine providing the researcher with AC waveforms directly extracted from space. Amazing science from
the golden days of borderland research!
 
 Acca..[/font]
Group of loved by us  renegades, not significant enough to become icons of fame for our children is  shrinking.
Eric Dollard  was young renegade before he becomes  old homeless.
He was proposer in front of crowd, watching him asking lady physics.
The crowd was important to him, not Physics


opinion of friend:

it's a guy sitting on a hill (he says that he has to do this out in the bushes - why, are the "guys in black" going to swoop down make him "gone"?),
reading from his self published works, pointing at the pages in his hand, suggesting the audience purchase his work to be able to follow the diagram,
showing a bunch of blurry over-exposed photographs without really explaining the whole set-up. 
He shows high wooden poles and concrete blocks and describes what used to be there...
It's a 20 year old video, citing research finding that occurred before the turn of the 20th century, using outdated, discredited concepts from the history of science. 
He talks of Luminferous Aether! 
This was a popular concept disproved by the Michael-Morley experiment in the 1880's! 
Even great mind's like Hertz can be wrong about some things (probably many things), many of the greatest ancient philosophers
believed that rotting flesh would spontaneously produce maggots (the idea that flies laid eggs in the flesh was not yet known). 
It kind of reminds me of "Alien Autopsy" videos... 
This idea that RCA was a shadow branch of the United States remains unproved to me. 
As far as I know RCA was created when General Electric bought
The American Marconi Company and re-named it RCA, both companies are and were privately held business. 
I have a lot of problems when he reads stuff like "infinite velocity" and "totally lossless". 
These are at best theoretical concepts and do not exist in this world of ours, yet Dollard scatters them about.
Tesla may have believed them, but science requires proof, not story telling. 

I don't care what Tesla, Dollard, or for that matter
Erasmus and Aristotle wrote - electromagnetic waves do not travel faster than the speed of light in a vacuum. 
In order to refute that they have to actually show this happening!
He mentions "Archetypal Flow of the Aethers in Nature" - what does this mean? 
In my humble opinion absolutely nothing. He cites Wilhelm Reich the Orgone discovering Psychiatrist in the middle of this ramble (something
about massless energy - so much for the law of conservation of mass-energy, where energy can be converted into matter and then back again to energy). 
He mentions the spontaneous creation of energy ab initio! 
He says some energy is totally unassociated with the laws of thermodynamics! 
He shows what now are recognized as fractal patterns (I guess he didn't read any of Mandelbrot's work) that occur all around us in nature, both
inorganic and living, and because organic life uses these fractal qualities it is signs that the non-living fractals are somehow imbued with a "life force"!?
He's got it completely reversed - the physical world doesn't mimic biological patterns, biology uses the same forces in nature for its own benefit. 
It makes as much sense as showing the similarity that the sun has to the chicken's egg, and suggest that the sun possesses "chicken egg force". 

You basically have to throw out all the past 100 years 's concepts in physics and make up new stuff, all unproven, because some guy wrote it down somewhere many years ago???
He talks about extra-dimensional components outside time and space? ???   
What the heck is that? ??? ?
Monopolar electricity???   
"Inversion of Consciousness" ???
I don't know what he means by "virtual grounding"
(I assume this is not a real ground), it's incredibly unclear to me in this video and is far from sufficient to establish that longitudinal electromagnetic waves exist. 
As far  as I know that device he is using is operating as a magnetic loop antenna, although not very common, they are used by many people without violating
any presently held theories of science. 
 
If I were some Machiavellian Madison Avenue propagandist this would be a great video to discredit the field. 
I'm beginning to think that you're holding out on some kind of time machine that allows you to have 28 hour days to review all this stuff<g>. 

The comments section on YouTube look like the video is "preaching to his own choir",
I don't see any critical review of the material offered in the video. 
He seems presented as the prophet of the god Tesla - sainthood is actually mentioned! 
Tesla was brilliant, but erratic, and he like all member of the human race, are not always right. 
Regarding Marconi, I will look into his history, but in all my reading, great entrepreneurs were never cautious people. 
They were bold gamblers, the ones that won (at least once). 
The trouble with entrepreneurs is that given enough time they eventual gamble wrong and lose...
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 23, 2019, 04:15:05 PM
I use LiPo 18650 battery and Current consumption was 1.5A and Voltage was 3.0V under Current conditions.

I post here 4 pictures.
First with parts.
Second with First experiment where I connect JT output to Diode Bridge.
Third with Abramenko plug connection.
Fourth I explain why "so strange results" is achieved.
Hi Ansis,
Thanks for the results of your experiment. You mentioned in an earlier post that Kapanadze used an Avramenko plug. Where is the single wire that feeds the plug in his device setup?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on January 23, 2019, 04:44:20 PM
Hi Ansis,
Thanks for the results of your experiment. You mentioned in an earlier post that Kapanadze used an Avramenko plug. Where is the single wire that feeds the plug in his device setup?

ok even it makes me look stupid .. is there one halve of bridge  used as an AV plug ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 23, 2019, 04:55:03 PM
To jojo.
Yes. Half bridge=Abramenko plug.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 23, 2019, 05:17:12 PM
About Window size reducing in Chrome and others browsers.
Use Ctrl+ for Bigger letters (pictures, contest).
Use Ctrl- for making (images and letters, contest) smaller.
P.S. This trick is known for programmers but ordinary peoples (very many) don't know about that.
:)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on January 23, 2019, 07:10:27 PM
Wesley thanks for that long reply on Dollard as he has been elevated to a demi-god, and the operative word is his mathematical understanding of Maxwell.  As you have pointed out that the "experts in their field" are many times  wrong and their character has allot to do with their mind set, there are many forms of mental illness and as levels such as being homeless with despair.. I tend to look to at history as foundation of past constructs where advancement and failure has to be balanced by objective of the persons past life of learning...


Keep on as time stands for no one..


Acca...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 23, 2019, 08:16:42 PM
Wesly yes Eric is a character but he knows how to do the hardware some time ago he published some calculations on (stuff) about transmission lines and standing waves and reflections I couldn't fault them or his knowledge on that subject.

Re the speed of light, you can't go faster than light! try a longitudinal punch and if still not convinced how to the Ebons get here?
they are 40 light years away and they can do it in 10 months they said that traveling in wormholes is instantaneous but the speeding up and slowing down takes the time and they can only jump so many light years  and have to slow down the video about it is on youtube take your pick there are dozens which you can watch! but don't tell me they are not here. come back and do that when you know more if we are not wiped out again for our stupidity and greed.


Ansis Hi and what are the boards you are showing ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 23, 2019, 08:28:41 PM
Why would the speed of light be any kind of limit? If it is then it must be just a special case.

You can hear all kinds of explanations why that is, but I can't see why any of them would hold in every case.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 23, 2019, 08:48:25 PM
You need Ebon technology all I know is magnetics slows things down and aliens get here and the American Junta take the piss out of us mortals!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 24, 2019, 08:32:52 AM
All what I did is proof of "extra energy" is comming from Main Power Supply.
Old electronic equipment is not isolated and is always connected through parasitic
capacitance to the grid power source.
Sometimes, peoples claim COP>1, because oscilloscope show "picture".
In my experiments I sometimes see "extra energy", but that is only because my
oscilloscope is not build properly.
__________________________________________________________________________________


About Abramenko plug.
It is very good if we want charge some Capacitors through 1 wire and "ground".
Where that part is in Kapanadzes generators?
If he use AC to DC conversion of Current.


In original? picture he use it to make Unipolar pulse.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 24, 2019, 11:33:45 AM
I think very hard about "what is original? Kapanadze drawing look like?"
It's look like gigantic speaker!
All those ferro rings, coils, rings, coils...
In old days I do very many experiments with Audio.
I have selfmade HiEnd. :)
One idea which was popular in 1990s was relaited with Magnetic Flux amplification
inside Speaker Coil.
It was done by making like that:
Ordinary Speaker have Magnet- Ring magnet!
Outside is N, inside S Magnetic Poles or vice versa.
Coil is moving inside by adding Electric Field to Coil.
To make Magnetic Flux stronger(reduction of Distortions),
we glue oposite pole magnet at the top.
But now!!!
Think about that. If we see Kapanadze generator like 10 speakers together,
which have physically connected Resonator!!! which go from Left to Right!!!
it can answer our question - What is Kapanadze generator!





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 24, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
Why I think we must "rethink" everything?
Because my experiments with High Voltage to Low Voltage conversion
through impulses in the past gave me 96% efficiency.
Not more.
We experimenting with Induction heaters too.
Efficiency is 92%.
No magic.
I see no magic in every type of Converters.
P.S. Some time ago I listen WITTS organisation's lectures in the Internet.
But, it is BS.
I like Timothy's believes, but there is no explanations for peoples who
want to understand something "real".



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 24, 2019, 02:39:47 PM
You know, Google spying on Us!!! :)
https://youtu.be/MpA2D3KbXGo (https://youtu.be/MpA2D3KbXGo)
Our French friends can ask this man about "magic" results?
Thank you!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 25, 2019, 12:49:25 PM
In French here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXEjkwUemI&t=0s

It is just a single transistor oscillator, whose feedback is made using a hall effect sensor.
No "magic" results. The LED lighting does not indicate that it would receive more than the 1.2W used as an input. This is another useless video by a dreamer who wants to keep his illusions, and consequently does not make serious measurements of input and output powers. In the comments on youtube, he therefore receives congratulations from Georges Chaniotakis, notorious fake video maker.

Oh this looks so cool! Single transistor oscillator for my own setup!

If I want to use this for an oscillator, should I use a MOSFET or a transistor? If I charge a cap from 9V battery, how can I use the HAL sensor to switch a transistor or fet?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 25, 2019, 01:43:04 PM
Oh this looks so cool! Single transistor oscillator for my own setup!

If I want to use this for an oscillator, should I use a MOSFET or a transistor? If I charge a cap from 9V battery, how can I use the HAL sensor to switch a transistor or fet?


There is different types of HS in the market.
The best sulution is this.
If you have some different HS in your "box", than take a Datasheet and there will be explanation.
In most of Datasheets, there is schematic of connection with some types of transistors or
You can search Google for pictures with your type of HS.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Hoppy on January 25, 2019, 03:37:43 PM
In French here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXEjkwUemI&t=0s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXEjkwUemI&t=0s)

It is just a single transistor oscillator, whose feedback is made using a hall effect sensor.
No "magic" results. The LED lighting does not indicate that it would receive more than the 1.2W used as an input. This is another useless video by a dreamer who wants to keep his illusions, and consequently does not make serious measurements of input and output powers. In the comments on youtube, he therefore receives congratulations from Georges Chaniotakis, notorious fake video maker.
Plus, he hides half of the circuit and then asks for a donation!  ::)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 25, 2019, 05:22:30 PM
Plus, he hides half of the circuit and then asks for a donation!  ::)
did you notice 2 different waveforms  one a squar and 12v at 100ma using ferrox and the other a negative going pulse
and 190ma  using iron garden wire. Amazing  ;D ;D don't people like to spin a web
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 25, 2019, 05:36:31 PM
Blue Kapanadze

https://youtu.be/EACw5uECgno
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 26, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
In fact we can make JT with  similar Coil like Franch man.
Test without Magnets and with.
Here is small notefication.
The best transformer is with very small gap between wire and core.
If we make setup which resonate inside, than we create gap, which is bad, frow Induction point, but maybe 2 times longer core with fixed and fully filled core with magnet on the end can give Amplification?
P.S. For realisation of JT circuit with ordinary transistor we need second winding with small diameter wire winded with fat wire or use system like this:


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OqQSJjRJ6EQ/maxresdefault.jpg


Every kind of circuits will give different results of course, because of different transistor opening moments.
HS is good for very sharp and low output Impedance if we compare with JT.


But!!! If there is possibility that Magnet can make Amplification, it will be usefull.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2019, 04:37:36 PM
Good evening!
Today I decide to look at Kapanadzes screenshots again I recognize some parts.
In fact original? Kapanadzes drawing and new setups is the same, but no equal.
In new setup I recognize old russian TV Voltage multiplier.
What I know is.
Tesla Coil with 200kHz? and 25kV output which from Multiplier go to the 2 spark plugs with Anodes "against" and than to Inductor.
Next, is interesting!
I look at strange box of 12 something.
It is what?
It is 12 Hi Voltage Flybackcoils without Anode which go not UP, but Down.
In old original? these coils is mounted Inside Matrjoshka Coil, but in new design, it`s separate!
Now it is clear, he use some "amplification" with many "receivers - amplificator`s".
How is it work?
I think similar like all TPUs, but no one knows.
 :)
 Question.
Is it possible to use 12 Hi Voltage coils at the receiver end and take 12 times more energy from output side?
Let`s think.
We have 200 000 pulses per 1 second.
Maybe there is some strange phenomena?



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on January 28, 2019, 03:49:06 PM
Good evening!
Today I decide to look at Kapanadzes screenshots again I recognize some parts.
In fact original? Kapanadzes drawing and new setups is the same, but no equal.
In new setup I recognize old russian TV Voltage multiplier.
What I know is.
Tesla Coil with 200kHz? and 25kV output which from Multiplier go to the 2 spark plugs with Anodes "against" and than to Inductor.
Next, is interesting!
I look at strange box of 12 something.
It is what?
It is 12 Hi Voltage Flybackcoils without Anode which go not UP, but Down.
In old original? these coils is mounted Inside Matrjoshka Coil, but in new design, it`s separate!
Now it is clear, he use some "amplification" with many "receivers - amplificator`s".
How is it work?
I think similar like all TPUs, but no one knows.
 :)
 Question.
Is it possible to use 12 Hi Voltage coils at the receiver end and take 12 times more energy from output side?
Let`s think.
We have 200 000 pulses per 1 second.
Maybe there is some strange phenomena?
You would be better off making a forward-thinking SciFi film that way the US Guv would find a way
to produce the hardware !  The dark side makes use for idle minds and hands saying is true  8) 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 28, 2019, 04:15:56 PM
To Alien.
In fact, I just thinking about Kapanadzes generator.
I don't know what it is, just thinkering about.
There is very many similarities with other mythical devices.
But, if I will understand how it works, I will share principal with everyone,
because it is right.
Why I will never give the exact schematics?, because of 1001 realisation techniks.
If we know principle, we can build it ourselves.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 28, 2019, 04:16:30 PM

https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ
 Explanation of Tariel Kapanadze


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 28, 2019, 06:28:44 PM

https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ)

.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on January 28, 2019, 08:19:48 PM
Good creative thoughts are exemplified here...   Effort has made to explain this enigmatic Corum construct.
Artistic video is captivating, had me sitting up, now the audio is only in one ear hard to listen in my noisy subway..


Acca..


You are an artist on the bleeding edge...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 28, 2019, 11:54:22 PM
Memo :
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ

1. Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html (https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html)

2.[IEEE Propagation Conference (LAPC) - Loughborough, United Kingdom (2010.11.8-2010.11.9)] 2010 Loughborough
Antennas & Propagation Conference - Isolation of the Zenneck surface wave
https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html (https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html)

3.Download - Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments (https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html)

4.Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments
https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html (https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html)

5.Possibility of superluminal behaviors for               X               -like and Zenneck waves
https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html (https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html)

6.Electromagnetic Surface Wave Attenuation Caused by Acoustic Wave Radiation
https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html (https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html)

7.Surface-wave luneberg lens antennas
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html (https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html)

8.Excitation of sea surface wave by short-wave radiator
https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html (https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html)

9.Surface Wave Propagation Preliminary work developing a method for surface wave detection Amy Zheng Andrew Johnanneson.
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html (https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html)

10.Lens design for surface wave applications
https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html (https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html)

11. https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8 (https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8)

12.On the relation between Surface Plasmons and Sommerfeld's Surface Electromagnetic Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7)

13.Brief overview about Surface Wave theory and applications
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso- (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso-)
Sokoloff/e7f1b1a020f0f0d2bf7c45d68075690246678a79?tab=abstract&citingPapersSort=is-influential&citingPapersLimit=
10&citingPapersOffset=0&citedPapersSort=is-influential&citedPapersLimit=10&citedPapersOffset=10

14.Zenneck surface oscillations in the sphere dielectric resonator immersed in high lossy liquid
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1)

15. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4)

16. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf)

17.The Excitation of Plane Surface Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494)

18.The application of electromagnetic surface waves to wireless energy transfer
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06)

19.THE PROPAGATION AND EXCITATION OF SURFACE WAVES IN AN ABSORBING LAYER
http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf (http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf)

20.Surface wave
https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave (https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave)

21.Why Do Surface Waves Exist?
http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf (http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf)

22.Excitation of the Zenneck surface wave by a vertical aperture
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 29, 2019, 09:56:45 AM
Frequency of work is the basis for action.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 29, 2019, 02:50:34 PM
  Boring, boring, boring, boring, boring, and boring.  Oh, and more boring.

If someone doesn't understand it they will say it's boring. This is the case, for example, in the music of Jazz
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Belfior on January 29, 2019, 05:10:47 PM
If someone doesn't understand it they will say it's boring. This is the case, for example, in the music of Jazz

Well you have to understand where this statement is coming from. Nick wants the schematic/working device and not some videos or even a scientific paper, that requires him to understand something.

He is tired of wiring coils and pulsing them. He wants his free energy now, because he is entitled to it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 01, 2019, 12:43:28 AM
 Dla r2fpl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGywu9BJJCU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGywu9BJJCU)
Widze ze sie  zajales  na serio tematem.

Dla mnie to wyglada jak  zmiana impedancji pola przez dodanie zarowek w kierunku  blizej rezonansu.
To samo mozna  zrobic wkladajac reke.

To samo bedzie  rowniez   jesli czestotliwosc  struktury  zmieni sie przez dodanie komponentow LC
w XYZ przestrzeni - w kierunku  rezonansu.

Srobuje zrobic porownania:
Ja wiem ze twoja konfiguracja byla inna.
Chce tylko zebys rozumial co robi co.
=============================
Zaczynasz z 52MHz bo wtedy nie  masz  duzych wymiarow.
Robisz  sobie pare  rozdzielona  dystansem.
Czyli odb.  - robisz dokladnie tak jak i nadajnik.
============================================================================
dopiero kiedy  uda ci sie  przekazac energie z punktu a do b. to bierzesz  dokladnie ten sam nadajnik ktory jest teraz  twoim wzorcem.
Teraz traktujesz ten  nadajnik jak by to byl  teraz  twoj nastepny  odb.
i probujesz dostroic do rezonansu  schumanna nizej i nizej.
Orginalnego odb. nigdy nie dotykasz i nic  przy nim nie zmieniasz.
Ale teraz  ten twoj orginalny odb bedzie twoim nadajnikiem.
Czyli podlaczasz do niego  teraz generator.
Patrzysz czy  oba pracuja na przemian.

Potem powracasz do pierwszej konfiguracji.
Twoj nadajnik jest nadajnikiem a twoj odbiornik jest odbiornikiem.


I tu zachodzi  ciekawa rzecz.
Teraz bazujac na twoim juz teraz  doswiadzeniu  z  przekazem  energii
ktore jest kluczowe ,
 Z nadajnika wyciagasz  cala cewke  wys nap. w jej miejsce wkladasz  granat Tariela  https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=513 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=513)
Orginalnego pierwszego Odb.  nie ruszasz  wogole. Tak jak  byl dostr. tak go zostawiasz.
Bawisz sie z nawijajac  cewke w lewo , prawo jak popadnie  lub tez tak jak to robil  Akula lub Ruslan, caly czas trzymasz 52MHz na generatorze.
Patrzysz sie czy odb ci  cos pokazuje.
Tak naprawde to nie  ma wielkiego znaczenia .
Za kazdym razem kiedy zmieniasz kierunek nawiniecia  to skracasz fizyczna skladowa.
W rezultacie masz  cos malego  a zachowuje sie jak duza antena.
Podstawowa zasada :
Najpierw dostroj sie do rez.  na najmniejszej cewce  jaka mozesz nawinac  a potem mozesz albo nadawac albo odbierac, Jak sobie chesz.

Ale  odb musi byc na odleglosci ok. 10m   minimum dla 52MHz .
Jak juz  zrobisz ze ci ta cewka Tariela/ Akuly  pracuje to wlasciwie zrobiles  Kapanadze.
Znasz mechanizm dostrojenia sie do harmonicznej.
Wszystko co teraz trzeba  to wiedziec ze jestes kupe za  wysoko musisz zejsc nizej z czest.
Faza jest regulowana w stosunku do ziemi.
Faza potrzebuje  punktu odniesienia i ziemia jest twoim punktem odniesienia
Tariel zbytnio sie nie przejmowal. W pokazie dla mnie  uzyl  wysokowoltowy generator iskry od grzejnika od gazu
Jego koncepcja wymagala pierwszego impulsu aby wzbudzic  Zenneck fale a potem urzadzenie pracowalo samo.
 

Wesley
All experiments are done on your own risk based on your own decision.
HV is dangerous.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 01, 2019, 02:39:14 AM
Tutaj masz caly sekret Kapanadze.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 01, 2019, 02:50:59 PM
Dla r2fpl:


Popatrz kolejnosci:
Masz dwoch ludzi
- Fizik Man
- Dimitry Maximow

Dimitry patrzy na to  co zrobiFizik Man i robi swoje wywody.
Wogole wejdz na jego str. i zobacz co on tam ma.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXwiN7LHAo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBXwiN7LHAo)

.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZJyr6VCyA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMZJyr6VCyA)
.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTYSFl_qkA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACTYSFl_qkA)
.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqekpxwjzn0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqekpxwjzn0)

.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6mJ_RDdNuU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6mJ_RDdNuU)  bardzo ciekawy generator nanosek..

Wynurzenia:

1. Skladowe logiki myslenia
a. Mozesz sie koncentrowac na  blokach i detalach.
znak i znak lub
b Mozesz  szukac generalnego mechanizmu ktory tym  rzadzi.

Oba podpunkty  punktu 1.  zaprowadza cie do  jakiegos konca ,  gdzie jest rozwiazanie albo  koniec korytarza bez wyjscia.



Akcja :
2. szukasz nowego  korytarza i znow jest to samo.

Wniosek:
3.nigdy nie bedzie inaczej. Zawsze beda tylko  dwie logiczne skladowe. (patrz punkt1 podpunkt a , b)
4.rozwiazan jest wiele i korytarzy bez  rozwiazan tez jest wiele.( "wszystkie drogi prowadza do Rzymu")
5.Moje rozwiazanie  z Falowodem Schumann'a   odpowiada punktowi 1b. i dziala sprawdzilem.
6.Mozesz  szukac dalej ale i tak na koniec  zawsze wrocisz spowrotem do   punktu 1


Podsumowanie :
bledem prawie wszystkich ktorzy chca powtorzyc Kapanadze., jest  ignorowanie lub pogwalcenie logiki.
Ludzie nie rozumieja, filozowi ktora jest matka wszystkich nauk.
Mozesz byc  bogatym prymitywem jak Trump lub bogatym bandyta jak ten tam  ze wschodu.
A mozesz byc zwyklym myslicielem ktory zyje bez  stresow i ktoremu nic do zycia nie  brakuje  np jak ja.
U ciebie liczy sie czas. Jako mysliciel mozesz  stac sie bogatym tez.
Ja juz nic nie musze.

Efekt koncowy:
Ci wszyscy wokol "szukacze"  FE,ida w ciemnosci i obijaja sie o takich samych jak oni sami.
I teraz przedstaw  sobie ze  to ty patrzysz z gory  na nich wszystkich i widzisz wszystkie ich bledy.
tak jak bys patrzyl na mrowisko, na tych wszystkich w ich korytarzach.
Ty widzisz wszystko to czego oni nie widza w tym samym  interwale czasowym  (Delta T)

 
Ten post tutaj to jest twoj klucz do sukcesu.
Mnie nic nie jest wiecej potrzebne , Ja jestem zyciowym minimalista.
Mam ten spokoj ktorego  (zakladam) oni nie maja i radosc z zycia.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: color on February 02, 2019, 06:19:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo)

I remember.
It seemed that you wanted to talk about me.
Even though you met kapanadze, you did not understand the generator principle,
In the meantime, you had a lot of thoughts.
It was a principle you did not know until a few days ago.

I understand the generator principle since Ruslan published two circuits.
I realized then that the kapanadze generator is the same principle.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on February 06, 2019, 09:41:15 PM
Hmm So America owns every charged particle on the planet that’s made in a thunder storm I don't think so! It would be interesting to know if the energy they will be transmitting is ‘CARSNOGENIC’ which I expect it will be! I expect they will be importing Satan’s throne Hitler imported from Turkey that is now in the Pergermum museum in Berlin next for their amusement. Still I have had my say and I’m not amused.
Pergamon-(Altar- )Museum,  first was built 1897-1899
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPergamonmuseum
Pergamon-Altar
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FPergamonaltar
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: blueplanet on February 13, 2019, 08:48:47 AM
How about using an ultrasonic mister to vaporize DMSO/iodine solution in the bedroom?


https://books.google.co.jp/books?id=Opm9BwAAQBAJ&pg=PA33&lpg=PA33&dq=respiratory+distress+syndrome++dmso&source=bl&ots=gw-LrdleN-&sig=ACfU3U1eJQNCMhUgs2JRtkRTHEZj5jxLcw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjx5b6mmbjgAhUBQN4KHVeXDXgQ6AEwCXoECAAQAQ#v=onepage&q=respiratory%20distress%20syndrome%20%20dmso&f=false


https://www.translationalres.com/article/0022-2143(92)90136-9/abstract



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 15, 2019, 10:21:23 PM
Wesley
Do you have a small Cryogenic Dewar we could borrow for some superconductor experiments at one of the open source Labs in USA  also we still have some iron wire to test for "NMR excess energy testing"at several open source labs.please remove if inappropriate

respectfully
Chet K

Yes I  have whole cryogenic lab.
I have chamber to test  electronic elements  in temperature  4K. ( four degrees of Kelvin)
And Yes You can have Dewar  I should have few of them.
Just tell me when.

Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 16, 2019, 03:16:34 PM
https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdo.com/wardenclyffe-lab-1901-1906/connection-to-earth/proposed-methods-for-terrestrial-resonance/)In 1988, PhD James Corum, (one of two brothers) focused interest of the public,  on to his own private  research of Tesla.
Quote
Some harmonic of the fundamental earth resonant frequency—up to approximately 25 – 35 kHz—is used for the oscillator frequency.
In this frequency range the around-the-world propagation efficiency is in the general area between 93 to 87%.
As the frequency is increased above this point, efficiency further decreases.

At 160 kHz the efficiency falls below 10%. [Corum, K. L. and J. F. Corum,
“Nikola Tesla, Lightning Observations and Stationary Waves,"
Proceedings of the 1994 Colorado Springs Tesla Symposium, 1994, Appendix II, "The Zenneck Surface Wave"]
The oscillatory transformer provides the high voltage alternating current needed to periodically charge the transmitter’s elevated terminal.
A monochromatic subcarrier signal is then added.
This is in the form of an abrupt lower frequency electrical impulse applied at a rate approaching the fundamental earth resonance frequency.
Higher frequency impulses, above the oscillator frequency are also added at every harmonic of the low frequency subcarrier impulse,
be it the fundamental earth resonance frequency or some lower harmonic of same.
[Corum & Corum] While the following quote refers to the use of an RF alternator in conjunction with a resonance transformer to produce continuous waves,
it appears to be applicable to the excitation of earth resonance modes as well.
Number of inventors added small building  blocks:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3278937A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3278937A/en)
till scientific crowd  around  was ready for
WAVEGUIDE  and TEM, TE, TM  modes.
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf (https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf)
This PDF explains all possible science  in this area till  year:1966
and is easy to  understand for these who wants to build Kapanadze today.

(Example: http://www.nuenergy.org/uploads/tesla/US645576.pdf (http://www.nuenergy.org/uploads/tesla/US645576.pdf)
this patent has a lot  to do with that article.)




Simple summary:
1.Kapanadze coil  represents electrically shortened  HV part of Tesla coil transformer.
2.Everything that you do with HV part of regular Tesla   Coil you can  do  with Kapanadze coil.
3.The only difference is that with regular  Tesla coil you need much much more space  all around.
4. TEM  and TE, TM  modes  of transmission / receiving and taping into "reservoir of" energy are  always the same for all of them.
5. Everything including us - we are walking at that interface earth/air ( think and look only at that sticky area.)
a. This area is also   the wall of Schumann waveguide.
b. This area is also   used by Surface Waves.
6. No matter if you sending  energy from A to B using surface wave, or extracting  energy from  Schumann waveguide you always use surface wave for it.

7. Waveguide has finite geometrical dimensions. It can be:
a  piece of pipe,
b  rectangle,
c  dielectric slab
e  HV car wire
f  electrical wire with  insulation

g  Earth/ air/ionosphere XYZ coordinates  are fixed.
    by that: Locally present surface  wave at the interface has finite parameters  to be exactly
    at this place and  at that frequency.

  Kapanadze went much  more  advanced than  that.   Instead of using passive antenna he created active interacting antenna to  stimulate the phenomena of.... of the same as would be achievable  with other methods.
  https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=606 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=606)


     
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 16, 2019, 05:04:02 PM
PART 2a

Example:
https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg474393/#msg474393 (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg474393/#msg474393)
When you look at picture below look at conditions required to lunch or receive or tune into surface wave.

1- phase
2- angle of incident
3. polarization

each twist allows you to  tune whole assembly to parameters of interest using  very short electrically piece of wire.
and using active instead of passive structure.

However  ground must be present and some stability  of that circuitry  as well.
Spark gap is only one of many ways to create voltage potential.
That could be enough at the right length to catch energy, but lack of stability did not make it to last long, except  for SR193,
and few others.

Summary:
1.At no point  it is important  how strong is Schumann resonance
Energy fluctuation inside waveguide is seen  only at interface.And only in form of surface wave.
and there is plenty of energy there.
However  Electromagnetic waves  in space can not see each other and can not interact .
Photons have no idea about  other photons.

2.special condition of interface  has unlimited number of users using surface  wave  at the same time.
That means that you can  tune to  nature or someone e.g Zenneck  Wave.
 But to do that the  few more parameters  need to  match.
 Corum Brothers created polyphase ( multi-phase) signal to make it harder to intercept.

3. All of these  individual surface waves do not see each other, and do not know if there is any  presence of any other  energy in the interface.

4. Tariel Kapanadze  Coil is much more advanced than any Corum Brothers  structure

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on February 17, 2019, 02:10:36 PM
Resonance alone is not enough to sustain the process. This is just a required element. The source must come from passing through another medium.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 17, 2019, 06:07:08 PM
PART 3.
Resonance alone is not enough to sustain the process. This is just a required element. The source must come from passing through another medium.

If we consider that we want to start with Schumann resonance, for example 26.4Hz for the first resonator and for the coil 1/4 = 105.6Hz, and this frequency is considered our second resonator we already have 422,4 Hz on the second coil. Assuming that we can do this many times, we get many repetitions.

The few ways :
One is to calculate all variables starting from four fundamental Maxwell  equations, with surface wave in mind.
calculate each section place two of them together, and check against the sample.
However  parameters of  polarization, phase and frequency can be known to us if we transmit from A to B. at first, and than use
our experience to move lower in frequency. So playing   at first with  Tx/Rx  pair is your mandatory experience  before you move to Schumann  waveguide surface wave components.
The same antenna of our Tx  or Rx (pair)  = our receiving antenna for our surface wave in Schumann  Waveguide.

Wesley
link to picture below:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on February 17, 2019, 08:37:48 PM
Simple answer: this is the principle Kapanadze devices !

The standing wave is a reflection from the ground with the help of TT. This is the main rule! Spark gap is just an interlude for the TT inductor as in Tesla.
You can search for reflection by measuring V-SWR for antennas.


..middle picture is GIF animation. Please download to desktop if not run.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 17, 2019, 10:59:51 PM
PART4
Yes  the mechanism you explained is one of mechanisms, behind Kapanadze/clones.




Other mechanisms:


1. Think about  vertically polarized standing wave.
It is bouncing  back and  forth in Cartesian XYZ space
(You can also imagine Euclidean geometrical  space)

At certain point, after  e.g 55 bounces velocity of envelope ( rybka)( the fishes) https://youtu.be/7pE83oajjoo?t=517 (https://youtu.be/7pE83oajjoo?t=517) upper right corner
can be  50 times slower than free space speed.
Let's call it group  velocity.
And now you are able to take this signal and without losses feed it into
 another (resonating at 1/100 of  lambda   CCW) , part of the coil.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/171961/ (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/171961/)

But this part of the coil  has its own Slow Wave factor caused by thick dielectric
of HV wire.
Now this section is coupled to resonance by pricking  insulation  of that  wire in right  position of
waveform,  traveling in that  covered with dielectric wire.
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=600 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=600)  ( watch for another minute)

And yet  the two sections:
- the one before and one now,  are in perfect resonance  in its
fraction of  lambda.
However both together now work much better  at 1000th of  a lambda.


For better understanding let's take an example:
You have  two or more  1/4 lambda antennas,
It is not important if any of antennas is 20 cubic yards big or it is at the  size  of your  cigarette lighter.

Both of the antennas  must  RESONATE at first!!!!
Both of the antennas will do excellent job.
However efficiency of each one of the  antennas is a trade.


link to antenna should be  only for reference of (How to phase)
https://www.hamradio.me/antennas/improving-the-super-j.html (https://www.hamradio.me/antennas/improving-the-super-j.html)


link to  coils in motors
http://www.davidsonsales.com/docs_pdf/CoilPitch.pdf (http://www.davidsonsales.com/docs_pdf/CoilPitch.pdf)


 
For these


 we look at how slow is phase  velocity  for total distance from A to B. ( when you looking at  envelope)
The ultimate goal is to  actively match with our Kapanadze   clone coil exactly to the condition of surface wave at this particular point of interface ( air/ earth)
If we use active antenna instead of passive antenna than  our active signal can be  compared  with that very particular point  having geometrical  XYZ  on that interface.
This signal can be than  discriminated/ compared/ mixed/ demodulated  for our benefit.
And that is your Free Energy

Schumann waveguide has fixed XYZ diameters  and like every  waveguide its wall ( the interface can accept immersed probe like in the slotted line)

Slotted Line: https://www.daenotes.com/electronics/communication-system/slotted-line (https://www.daenotes.com/electronics/communication-system/slotted-line)





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 18, 2019, 12:22:39 AM
PART 4a
explanation:
man made surface wave is exactly the same as
nature made surface wave
but has different  polarization, phase angle , frequency
It has also different impedance than loved by us standard 50 Ohm.


Summary:
Surface Wave  known also  as Zenneck Wave is our focus media despite  the fact if we  plan to  transmit from A to B
or we trying  to extract energy .
We will be always looking at  interface and right match to  man made or nature made surface wave.

You do not care  about efficiency of any of sub-sections of Kapanadze/clone HV coil.
Efficiency is only important, when  you deal  with bits and pieces of energy to be preserved.

Our general assumption is that in the interface we have plenty enough energy in surface wave to deal with.
But at first  we must tune into it.

By method used by Corum brothers  it will be  big humongous   Tesla Tower. Even at 18kHz
By method used by Tariel Kapanadze  it will be  very unstable but small Kapanadze active coil assembly.

Both of methods must have proper ground.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on February 18, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
I agree about Q factor and no-Radio type Kapanadze device.
Only created in place HiVoltage can make something usefull (if it is real) with Ground connected
device which "suck electrons" or create something unknown or make something like mC2 punch=> contra punch. Something like Second + Third Newton's law of motion. Only difference is we do that with Electric "hammers". We create Force in colision between mases and create contercforce on it.  Like when we magnetise and demagnetise material which than is captured with Coils.
I see only thease explanations.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on February 18, 2019, 05:59:11 PM
a movie here from Geographic society ,mentions Zenneck waves at 6 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM)
from topic about thermionic tech and pending public release [ambient harvesting with energy densities to industrial use levels with daisy chaining , mentioned around 23.40  min mark
 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html)

please remove if inappropriate or already mentioned [so much info got buried here]
respectfully Chet K
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 18, 2019, 06:05:31 PM
a movie here from Geographic society ,mentions Zenneck waves at 6 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM)
from topic about thermionic tech and pending public release [ambient harvesting with energy densities to industrial use levels with daisy chaining , mentioned around 23.40  min mark
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html)

respectfully Chet K

Thank you for the link Chet  K
let me know when you  need  the cryogenic flask.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on February 20, 2019, 08:16:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODYy-ifTu1M
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on February 21, 2019, 09:16:38 AM
Fizikman
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 21, 2019, 01:25:23 PM
 Naval Weapon Center about  it.https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf (https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on February 21, 2019, 01:46:13 PM
''WITHOUT PREJUDICE''

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531591/#msg531591
Quote
The burden of proof is only on your side.
You claim that the Kapanadze machine is overunity, so give the proof,
Wesley's  response:

I have never said in my life that overunity exists.
No, but does this video you produced prove it does?
end of quote.
((Tariel kapanadze HV generating circuit SHGS)))
===============================
no ofence but can we just kick all this tyersome stuff down the loo  8) 8) and flush it please do!
Well, it looks like a video showing a working device for me!
Also did anyone notice >>>  THE FULL MOON? (depicts the end of hostilities) <<<
Date                   Time                   Native American
February 19   10:53 A.M.   SNOW Full Moon
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on February 21, 2019, 02:19:54 PM
Let"s think different.
We know the Ground connection give us the "Amplification" in Radio therms.
It means, we connect good Ground in our Radio station and we can get much better "signal".
Every one knows that.
But, there is "selected" range of that effect.
In GHz diapasone we don't need Ground, because we use our parabolic dish surface like reflection surface/ground.
IT MEANS, THE GROUND CAN BE USEFULL ONLY AT LIMITED SPECTRUM OF WAVES.
I want ask real DXers here, which part of frequency diapasone is most dependant from "ground antenna".
Thank you!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on February 21, 2019, 03:00:58 PM
if you look on Eric Dollard's youtube site he and the other feller Tom Brown ? made a video about it.
https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E210US91082G91208&p=youtube+eric+dollard+tom+brown

Thank you!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on February 21, 2019, 03:23:28 PM
Maybe Kapanadze use Ground to charge Battery inside his box?
Maybe Direct Current is the answer?
If LongWaves is hunngry for Ground and we know AC of 50Hz is dependant from Ground(it is main reason for stealing electricity from Grid companies of HiVoltage from 220V in East, it is in East because of dependency of Voltage potencial for better efficiency of steeling!!!). Maybe there is some anomaly? Maybe there is potencial(from or 1 point), from which start avalanche SuperMega Stealing?
Be free to think like that, because we are investigators!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on February 21, 2019, 04:02:00 PM
         :   Guys: Why don't you discuss Zenneck waves and related technologies, just in Wesley's thread, instead of spreading these discussion over onto threads like the Dally thread, that has nothing to do with wireless transfer of electricity over distances, at a cost to you.  Which is not going to be free energy, at all, nor similar to the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan type of devices discussed and replicated there.  As it looks like no one or very few guys are all that interested in wireless transfer distracting us, with unrelated technologies.   I just wanted to answer to Ansis, sorry to add the above. I probably should have done it in the Dally thread instead.
But, the idea is to separate the different technologies into their own threads, if possible, as they don't work the same.
Yes Nick it should ''junk'' should be deleted and then we might be able to create an index to find things
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: F6FLT on February 21, 2019, 05:09:48 PM
Maybe Kapanadze use Ground to charge Battery inside his box?
Maybe Direct Current is the answer?
If LongWaves is hunngry for Ground and we know AC of 50Hz is dependant from Ground(it is main reason for stealing electricity from Grid companies of HiVoltage from 220V in East, it is in East because of dependency of Voltage potencial for better efficiency of steeling!!!). Maybe there is some anomaly? Maybe there is potencial(from or 1 point), from which start avalanche SuperMega Stealing?
Be free to think like that, because we are investigators!

LongWaves is not "hunngry for Ground", it's just a question of engineering, not of principle. In any case for long waves, the second pole is obtain by a long wire. But at 50Hz, we are no more in the "long wave" range (30 Khz to 300 KHz), we are in the very very very long wave range (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_low_frequency) (6000 Km) so that we can't have an efficient "second pole". We are no more in radio frequencies, and only in the near field (field directly linked to nearby conductors, almost not propagating). It's almost impossible to produce efficient propagating waves at theses frequencies.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 24, 2019, 12:34:19 AM
PART 6.
SURFACE WAVES:  WHAT ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY INTERESTING?

For us  understanding surface wave is the key to electrical energy for free.
When we talking about Schumann waveguide  it is not important what is energy level 
at fundamental 7.83Hz  Schumann frequency  and its harmonics.
We only need to remember that  wee need to be at lowest Schumann frequency harmonics we  are physically able to be.
when we  go with frequency of our Rx,Tx pair or  just Receiver,  into 18kHz or lower than  our reactive losses are  the smallest.
more  is explained in article:
SURFACE WAVES:  WHAT ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY INTERESTING?
https://www.armms.org/media/uploads/1259319847.pdf (https://www.armms.org/media/uploads/1259319847.pdf)
and less interesting but useful article :
Isolation of the Zenneck Surface Wave
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.651.4359&rep=rep1&type=pdf (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.651.4359&rep=rep1&type=pdf)


Please remember that experience with Zenneck wave as A to B  transmission will be needed to
extract energy from Schuman waveguide.
Mechanism is almost the same.
Naturally   present surface wave in the interface   has different frequency ,  phase  and needs polarization
and impedance match at the receiver Rx  side. ( your FE).   

Tariel Kapanadze and his clones ( SR193, Akula, Ruslan) used structure   that I name active probe.
the term Active probe is used in patents of James Corum  and Corum Brothers.

A  surface  wave  requires  an  interface  between  two  media  as  it  exists  partially  in  both.
Therefore  if  the  electric  field  is  unable  to  penetrate  into  one  of  the  media,  a  surface  wave
cannot  propagate.
 This  could  therefore  imply  that  the  skin  depth  is  proportional  to  the
magnitude  of  surface  wave  produced  and  indirectly  proportional  to  the  magnitude  of  space
wave produced with an exponential dependence.
It is from this concept that the definition of the ‘surface wave region’ was derived.

Zenneck Wave  does  not radiate in Far Field and is in form  of TEM in TM mode



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 25, 2019, 12:54:25 AM
There are plenty of mechanisms allowing  to build  electrically  short 1/1000  of lambda resonating structures  such as  Kapanadze and its  clones coil.

mkjekyll (https://overunity.com/profile/mkjekyll.104399/) contribution  is: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3083364 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3083364)

This contribution is important as  explanation of means of electrically short
coil (caduceus  like coil structure.)
Means of bifilar winding with proper spacing
have been explained   in the language  of 1963 antenna science, but for us
important is  to point art   of  physical application.
Electrically Short  HV  part of Tesla Coil is Kapanadze coil.
Small size is our goal.
You retain similar to full size structure  parameters  such as  desired frequency , amplitude, impedance, and able to maneuver proper polarization.
What one must understand is:
Kapanadze trick with  9V battery can  ( but not must) be seen as coupling into energy of another system
By activating active probe that is "immersed" into that system.
By trying to keep language in   level of average reader  I 'm in must to use  words that I try mark as
".. " or ( ..) or active probe.
But I'll try to use active probe word with  proper explanation.( explained in sections 1-5)



Much easier to explain it , would be to use example from classical mechanics, however
it will be only graphical form  that in the sense can not serve as quantum  related.

Let's say you  have slightly  vibrating  hot water pipe, and you clamp it is certain point.
You may see that   pipe start to resonate mechanically with quite increased  amplitude.
Only energy to find the right spot for the clamp, was delivered by  You.
You do not need to pay for pump and water.
At the end of the cycle, of the pump action the motor rotation slows and vibration of the pipe, can reach its damaging maximum.

 
Active probe operates based  on the same logical concept:
Lets   place  energy  that is paid by someone  but not you, on the same level as  natural energy that is
created by nature  and is not paid by you.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 25, 2019, 02:05:01 PM

PART7

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1.
This is very easy explanation to almost every  nontechnical reader  of basic  antenna futures.
https://www.pulseelectronics.com/antenna_basic_concepts/

2.  Tesla coil  is made out of two coils:
a. low voltage coil ( usually at the bottom of structure)
b. HV  coil( usually inside  of low voltage coil)
- is air/ ( can be vacuum) based resonant transformer.
   (can be called  air transformer)
   (some of variations of Tesla coil can have  more than  one low or/and high voltage coils)
2a    If we place inside of low voltage  coil, the coil (HV) that is in length  shorter than 
        corresponding to given frequency required physical  diameter  (e.g Tariel Kapanadze coil)
        it means that we compromised  some of parameters  of  aperture of suitable HV coil.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_aperture (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_aperture)
        This may become very much  positive and fulfilling our expectations, as we care only about  certain 
        properties ( certain effect) of such antenna or coil manifesting its usefulness.

2b.  Antenna Efficiency       
     
Quote
The efficiency of an antenna is a ratio of the power delivered to the antenna relative to the power radiated from the antenna. 
       A high efficiency antenna has most of the power present at the antenna's input radiated away. 
       A low efficiency antenna has most of the power absorbed as losses within the antenna, or reflected away due to impedance mismatch.
       However this quote from above can be very much  misleading .
       You may  have, very, very small antenna ( 5cm/2inch long)   perfectly resonating at 1/100 of y(lambda)
       and full size   antenna  (10m long/ 393.700787 inch) perfectly resonating at 1/4 of y.
       The efficiency   of both antennas is different. But both are  performing  well.
       It is the conditions( very specific parameters that we may be interested with) that matters .

       In our case we are interested in antenna  that is small in size and we do not care much about losses created by small size
       of an antenna
       http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/efficiency.php (http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/efficiency.php)
2c.  In our case (2b)  we have in mind passive or active structure.
      if passive antenna ( in form of e.g Tesla Coil) is used  - it is  used as Rx not Tx antenna.
      We care not much about efficiency of the antenna as we assume that in given point
      we have plenty  of energy for that antenna  to resonate with.
2d. In our case (2b) if we use  active antenna ( also known as active probe) than
      you need to read my notes about active probe in
      mkjekyll (https://overunity.com/profile/mkjekyll.104399/) contribution
     
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531943/#msg531943 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531943/#msg531943)
      and everything that is related to active probe in PART 1 to 6   


3. Such structure does not deffer much from  typical  antennas in regards to:
a- ability to be build as resonating structure at 1/2 y , 1/4y  1/100y 1/1000y and so on.
b- ability to accept delivered to its input frequency that makes existing structure   to resonate at  1/2 y , 1/4y  1/100y 1/1000y
    and at its harmonics ( important).


4.
    you must first resonate than radiate.
    this is mandatory requirement to everything possible in air transformers employed  as " let go to all of it " ( passage) of  signal.

5.
Receiving antenna can be build  exactly the same  as transmitting  antenna .
   Rx- receiver      ( abbreviation )
   Tx- transmitter  ( abbreviation )




Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 26, 2019, 12:56:13 AM
PART 8

Each lightning burst creates electromagnetic waves that begin to circle around
Earth captured between Earth's surface and a boundary about 60 miles up.
Some of the waves - if they have just the right wavelength
- combine, increasing in strength, to create a repeating atmospheric heartbeat known as Schumann resonance.

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 27, 2019, 10:53:45 PM
For the purpose of comparing with some information  mentioned by me earlier.
I translated  set of schematics from the same author.
System is stated as verified to work.
I'm responsible  for translation only.
System  includes  many  different options.

set of H quality large format schematic is available .
But it will oversize the page.



Schematic Translation #6 ( look at page 6 )
Tesla said : You can synchronize  work of source S with  Sj  that is similar in nature. or any number of such sources.
gives chance to  amplify  oscillations  and  distribution of them  in any area or organize transport
( distribution of electrical energy produced by Sj to   source S    having in mind  that  these  signals are  reversed in phase.
Tesla N. Lesson M Tesla print 2003 386s page L140
title:  about electrical resonance L-135-L140
======================================================================================
Schematic Translation #5  TV2 winded LEFT          ( look at page 5 )
                                       TV1 winded  RIGHT
==========================================
 Schematic Translation #4 ( look at page 4  and 4a )

1.In variant TV2 without resonator use start winding from L res. coils of output , wind from the sides .( you can L res. wind in the middle of the former and  output   on the sides of the former)
Position of indicator  please find  experimentally( start from center  of the former over L res.
You can also try to  pull winds to increase pitch.)  external  look  of TV2 similar to  in Kapanadze.

2. Tr2 you can split to  two independent  current transformers.
3. U resonator ( free oscillations)
4.One of ways to tune:
5. connect  Katcher and tune it to free oscillations adjusting Crest1, L2 and  coil TV2 in such a way  that all of windings of TV2 resonates  in frequency of  Katcher free oscillations.

Connect  inverter now, and  tune it using RV1 and Cres2 to frequency multiple to frequency
of Katcher  is such a way that oscillations of current on L res  are synchronized in zero amplitude of Katcher free oscillations using  adjustment RV3 till synchronized between inverter and Katcher.

Adjust  phase  of windings ,
Length of wire or each coil  make  multiplying (- even) for example:
Resonator  200m( meters), than L res.- can be 1/4 lambda  around 50m, or 1/16 of lambda
or 1/32  of lambda and so on.
You can use also use odd ( not even)  harmonics 1/3 instead of 1/4  lambda and so on.
In such a way you can than wind   output windings.
the main point is  to have all windings of resonator, to resonate at  frequency of free oscillations  (or its harmonics.)

you can wind  around of TV2 (over the TV2,) few winds of wire, Lres or you can do  the same inside of  L res. or inside  of transformer you can insert  pipe  with  longitudinal slot.
there are plenty of options.
Depends from your construction you can add another resonator.
It will definitely work better not worse than without it.

On TV2  OUT1 and OUT2 should be  in opposite phase.(180 degrees out of phase)

1. Inverter  sinus or resonance- (you can have 50Hz as well)
 is creating  traveling oscillations and makes possible to  retrieve energy  at desired frequency.
 Retrieving of energy is possible when, "traveling" oscillations  (send oscillations) synchronizes itself with, reflected current oscillations.
Voltage in its   zero amplitude manifests maximum velocity( I can call it the right  point.)
 
2. synchronizator  is synchronizing  cycle of  inverter 1  and katcher 4
3.  air transformer  is made based on Tesla Transformer.
4. Katcher Borovina creates free oscillations and by that  makes possible  to create "stream"
  "Stream"  is controlled by us   response of  mechanisms of nature in area of energy transfer.

6.After you made the device  try than  to change value of resistors,
you will notice that voltage potentials   almost don't change.
You will see however change of current . Properly  assembled  device   pretty stable, even if  parameters of elements are changing.

7. katcher with  self stabilization

8. terminals to connect  battery  during Start.( like Kapanadze  9V)
9.In "stream" based  devices mutual interaction  makes processes to be supported by existence of other processes. Reflected signal in resonance circuit when  in  phase sequence is  supporting incoming signal from another  resonance circuit. By that  amplification of "stream" is possible
note: "stream" look at sub-point 4 of point 4.

10. In effect current in transformer TV2  is flowing due to voltage fluctuation  in  TV1

11.Nominal impedance for Katcher that utilities  field transistor VT2
R1-1.2k Ohm not less than 2W
R2 470 Ohm   not  less than 2 W
You may be in need to  adjust value of  R3 R4 to required value  or you will have problem with   self stabilization.

12. option of self stabilization

13.  Driving Coil (OC)-60 winds. Please wind in the same direction as your resonator .Length Oc should be even ( not odd) to length of resonator

14. TV2  output coils  please wind  in the opposite  direction (OUT1 other than OUT 2.. the same story is with  OUT3 and OUT4 )

15. or like this for small power.

16. Resonator TV2 - right winding.

17. explained in  point 11.

18. control of current

19. TV1 left  winding

20. It should look like this for big power

21. to L res current (look at Tr3)

22.  Voltage on   resonator.

23. Power - Fast diodes

24. balance.

25. to inverter? I'm not sure.

26. TV1 Tesla

Schematic translation #
   

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 28, 2019, 02:57:33 PM


This is my set for sonoluminescence.
I need to have new resonator  suitable for HA2
https://www.acoustics.co.uk/pal/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Booster-Amplifier-User-Guide.pdf (https://www.acoustics.co.uk/pal/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Booster-Amplifier-User-Guide.pdf)
Images:  corresponds with link from above .


Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 01, 2019, 04:33:18 PM

here is set of HQ schematics

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 05, 2019, 03:48:45 PM
No power supply self oscillated FE
The difference of potential is created by Metal roof  of 1 story ( 1 floor   with attic )
The  by PhD James Corum from Viziv diameter of the  top capacitor should  be multiplied by factor  of 4 (at best)  to have distance between   earth and  top capacitor  calculated.
Top capacitor  that is elevated to this height is   not ionizing air and not  influenced by  earth.
But that depends from ground properties below the top capacitor or  roof of the  house.
So we may just base on fact that  square area of top capacitor should be as large as possible, but not to large vs height.

Note: In one  of the tests battery was used to power    transistor  from picture 1
The current  inside the light-bulb is so  strong....
( well.. I should say  to be correct:  The voltage is so big,and current is as it is )
 that the Tungsten of the lightbulb  is not able to be heated due to internal gas/ vacuum of the lightbulb  momentary  HV breakdown.

Note : simulation of the same can be easily made by placing  flat pieces of sheets of aluminum or copper or even rust protected other metals on the roof or elevated from the ground.
These sheets  can be just edge to edge lying down  and yet touching  one on another .
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 08, 2019, 02:49:08 AM
   
          Electrical Energy of Kapanadze
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 08, 2019, 01:12:31 PM
Look at picture below.
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=12 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=12)
Ten  Spark Gap to u mnie byl Bomac USN-CBNQ-1B40 Argon filled Gas Switching Tube
1kW impuls.

Ty  zastosowales  kondensator ot R-140   a ja malem  pod reka  pare ceramicznych kondensatorow.
Na jedno wyszlo.
Nie radze ci publikowac  Twojego video.  Nie ryzykuj  teraz.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 08, 2019, 02:55:29 PM
Yes, you right this is the way.
here:
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=12 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=12)
I did it.
 
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 08, 2019, 09:14:49 PM
Dobra nie ma co,- patrz w dol.
I nie wychodz z tym teraz . Nawet nie trzymaj  tego  u siebie.
Zawiez  do  Krakowa.
Hans  potem podjedzie  do ciebie, 5 godzin z  Hamburga.
Do Stefana nie daleko, ale to twoja  decyzja.
 
Wesley   
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 09, 2019, 01:55:12 PM
I have got  numerous of requests to  post  more  information in  regards to my last video in other languages.
First  is my response to Dr Hans:
Das Gerät wird jetzt nach Krakau transportiert.
Ja, er will es dir geben.
Sie können sich an Stefan wenden.
Ich bin jetzt dagegen.
Er kann sich Konsequenzen aussetzen. 

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https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw)

Nein, ich kann jetzt dem deutschsprachigen Publikum keine
umfassendere Erklärung geben.

Wesley

PS:
Funken-Lücke-Tube P24 1139 habe ich wenige von ihnen. Ich werde es am Montag senden
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 10, 2019, 02:16:42 AM
As requested I'm posting  model number of spark gap
with trigger.
Tested :
- triggered by small voltage  impulses up to 267 kHz                                   passed
- spectrum center of  the bandwidth peak regulated from 6kHz to 267kHz     passed
- width of  peak   included  all F of all L ( L1;L2;L3;L4) moving from low 600Hz  at front edge  up to 2.4kHz
  so we say around  2.4- 0.6= 1.8kHz in average)
- sliding  bandwidth of interest up down  passed with  great success.
- sides of  bandwidth of interests are irregular and  quite sloping.
   but this is not important at all. The top  must include all  F of  each individual resonance and move up or down on request.
    Note:
   bandwidth peak  is the center of the highest  amplitude region  having at its lowest  still 75% of amplitude for frequencies of interest region
.


Application:

- Tesla coil                                     passed
- structure from my video.              passed
Description:
1. 0.15mm copper foil 2m wide 10m  long x 3= 6x10 area  as top capacitor  at 15m high.
2. cooper foil  is one side adhesive,applied  on the top of flat dielectric below.( can be commercial from Home Depot)
3. regular  flat  wooden roof served as base to the structure.
3a.yes,  at one point structure was elevated but  due to strong wind, weight of dielectric was increased
   But that wind lead me to remarkable conclusion. 
   (Results of 3a are not to be published yet.)
Dr Hans, ich werde Ihnen Ergebnisse am Montag in demselben Paket mit der Funken-Lücke senden.
Stefan hat seine eigenen Probleme jetzt. Belästigen Sie ihn so nicht, bis wir bereit sind.
Ich respektiere ihn sehr viel.
https://www.radioexperimenter.us/exp-1966/precision-slotted-line.html (https://www.radioexperimenter.us/exp-1966/precision-slotted-line.html)

Instrumentation:
- E4407b
- R3267
- HP4194a

at no voltage test:
-R3754B
performed at  S11, S21, S12, S22,
Note: from 10Hz to 10kHz S parameter is not available as HP4194A  was used due to R3754B  limitation.

problem:   
-R3754B  starts from 10kHz but it  goes up to 150MHz if needed
 so for low F   from 10Hz i used HP4194a at gain phase mode with rectangular graph.
-HP 8753D 30 kHz to 3 GHz was not used.
Correction:HP 8753D  was checked again and my version of it  works from 30kHz to 6 GHz
So  for anything above 30kHz is OK.
-Surface wave origin and  intensity (compared Cost Rica and New York)


Look exactly here: this will  explain you  everything:
this was the whole problem of all  of these guys.
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352)
Yes  I have wide noise generator but spark gap  with trigger, gives me  so  good results.

Conclusion:
-
results of this tests explains why Tariel Kapanadze used spark gap at his first devices.- next test is oriented on comparison of furnace spark generator  frequency response vs spark gap in dielectric.
- common factor is that in both cases we deal with dielectric:
a.  foil on the roof .
b. HV wire prick  by sharp end wire connected to gas furnace HV  spark generator from Tariel show to Wesley in 2011
- test  works good on  much smaller cooper area serving as  top capacitor (such as  2x2m on dielectric) 
-having few pieces such as 1x2m is more convenient.
-lying on the roof few pieces at different angle works great, as its is capacitive reactance can be regulated by moving them
  Note:
 Tests have been provided under my supervision but with help  of two  guys (after virus I'm not so strong yet)

- energy intensity  geographically varies  in Costa Rica test site  and New York, New Jersey,
  That would explain why Akula work in Kazakhstan and  did not work at Riga Latvia
  and in Hamburg Germany. 
  But Ruslan  at the same Riga did not have  much problem as he was tuned  there.
  However Ruslan  was not examined by Tiger or me yet. 
  Tiger couldn't  explain it too. He is back home now asking me to visit him in Kazakhstan.
  Energy density  note is my own assumption, and can't be taken for granted .

   Note: I'm not going to visit Tiger now. It is to close to Moscow influence.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 10, 2019, 04:52:32 AM
Please look up in previous post  find 4194A in  gain phase mode ( in green color)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 10, 2019, 01:18:08 PM
Some explanation  to the  questions in Russian  as requested:
 Q. Привет, Уэсли.
Я всё же считаю, что у Капанадзе и его репликациях происходят манипуляции с магнитным полем индуктора. То, что ты показал это другой тип устройств.
Wesley response:
Я думаю, вы ошибаетесь. "Манипуляция" - то процесс a не источник энергии.
Никто кроме меня когда-либо не указывал на происхождение энергии в  устройствe Тариэля Капанадзе
Я прав на все 100% Hикакого другого объяснения, поскольку никогда не было каких-либо объяснений.
У Тариэла было только два варианта. Отправлять энергию из точки А в В или извлекать энергию из волновода Шумана.
Вот почему б..ы так  cошли c ума сейчас. Все они молчат в ожидании директивы, что со мной делать.
В моем блоге у меня полный иммунитет. Ho б..ы делают все возможное.

Q.
Электроэнергию этого Viziv я смогу у себя поймать и пользоваться? Когда его включат?
Wesley response:
Viziv работает уже 52 дня. Но они до сих пор  держат головы вниз. «Электроэнергию этого Viziv я смогу у себя поймать» 
Нет Вы не можете Это многофазных 21 элементa, чтобы соответствовать и изменения кода доступа каждые 2 секунды

Q.<"Все они молчат в ожидании директивы, что со мной делать"> - разве они вообще могут с тобой что то сделать?
А для Viziv нужен специальный приёмник энергии со своим кодом доступа? Хакнуть можно?
Если энергии идёт до дури, то можно же просто хоть часть снимать?
Энергия радиоволн то есть!? Пусть не вся мощность, а хотя бы часть.
Детекторный приёмник, например. На каких частотах она передаёт? Я эфир просканирую.
Wesley response:
Здесь вы показываете полное отсутствие понимания  волны Ценнека . частотa ~ 18 кГц.
Посмотрите мои последние два видео и попытайтесь понять .
Проблема в том, что  https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=565 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=565) - это все, а не только электричество.
Они будут знать ваше точное местоположение и каждый ваш шаг. Вот почему Визив не подавляет головы.
Это США, и мы можем остановить Визив, если они нападают на нашу конфиденциальность.
 Вы не можете получить волну Ценнека, так как эта волна не распространяется в дальнем поле.
Так что вы не можете отсканировать волну Ценнека. 
Это:  поляризация и фазовое соотношение стоячей волны  в  приемникe,
- теперь взаимодействующей с Поверхностной волной, известной как Волна Zenneck

 А в россии? Они могут даже дать некоторым из вас электроэнергию за полцены в обмен на информацию, которую они собирают о вас.

Q.А как они дадут энергию за полцены, если волна не распространяется в дальнем поле?
И разве эта волна имеет огромную информационную пропускную способность, чтобы заменить собой все магистральные
средства связи (это весь оптоволоконный трафик Земли, что ты перечислил в видео)?
Wesley response:
Волна Ценнека существует на границе раздела между двумя диэлектриками с различными свойствами или между  материалaми земля. и воздух.
 Это называется интерфейсом, -воздух, который имеет устойчивые диэлектрические свойства -земля «среда с потерями»,котopa имеет нe устойчивые
диэлектрические свойства
Вам легко понять это без физики.
Представьте себе слона, который сжимается тяжелым катком и теперь плоский, но живой  и может поместиться в интерфейс.
Волна Ценнека излучает не в пространстве XYZ, а в пространстве XY, но это является только экспрессивным - это только выразительное объяснение.
Волна Ценнека излучает в Near Field Волна Ценнека не излучает в  Far Field https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?stzid=UgwRN-7DgeoTPTr3VEV4AaABAg.8sDgbeiOSu38sEbZodjVtc&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FNear_and_far_field&event=comments&redir_token=ioWZMZaCGY8rjAPzTYMyN9LMqsF8MTU1MjMwNTQwMUAxNTUyMjE5MDAx)

Q.Спасибо за разъяснение. Теперь базовая картина нарисовалась! Получается, что она стелится по земле, создавая половину стоячей волны в воздухе
и другую половину стоячей волны в земле. Волна стоячая и никуда не бежит от передатчика.
Радиус действия передатчика ограничен одной полуволной от частоты 18КГц. 18КГц - 16,666км. 1 полуволна будет равна 8,333км.
Пучность стоячей волны будет в 4,1км. Род поля - магнитный, без электрической напряжённости поля (E).
То есть это генератор магнитного поля с радиусом 8,3км. На расстоянии 4,1км магнитное поле максимальное.
Wesley response:
Нет, снова Вы ошибаетесь.
С обычной Tx электромагнитная волна производится один раз, а затем вы можете отключить Tx Bолна будет продолжать путешествие.
Волна Ценнека в интерфейсе должна быть TEM в режиме TM Если вы отключите Tx, эта волна больше не существует.
 https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/antennas-propagation/rf-feeders-transmission-lines/waveguide-modes-te-tm-tem.php (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?stzid=UgwRN-7DgeoTPTr3VEV4AaABAg.8sDgbeiOSu38sEnFcZV-wA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.electronics-notes.com%2Farticles%2Fantennas-propagation%2Frf-feeders-transmission-lines%2Fwaveguide-modes-te-tm-tem.php&event=comments&redir_token=ioWZMZaCGY8rjAPzTYMyN9LMqsF8MTU1MjMwNTQwMUAxNTUyMjE5MDAx)
Волна Ценнека в интерфейсе  TEM в режиме TM существует при включенном Tx Так как нет нагрузки, то нет потерь в целой земле / воздушный интерфейс
Это обычная физика, друг мой, но это экзотическая часть физики  для большинства профессионалов. Чтобы понимать это,
Вы должны сначала понять то, что - волновод И понять, что земля - ​​это стена волновода Шумана.
Земля также ​​это  <'средa с потерями'> lossy media,  для волнового интерфейса (Взаимодействие с воздухом.)
Земля также это разрядная стенка для электрических ударов и колебаний энергии   внутри  волновода Шуманa
И поскольку диаметры XYZ волновода Шумана не меняются, и существует резонанс Шумана, который является доказательством
существующей там энергии 'переменного тока'/сигналa/ wave/волна мы можем погрузить зонд внутрь этого волновода.
 И это - наш Приемник

More in next post.Picture 1
This process is similar to Slotted Line but instead  of being used to measure impedance it acts as  active Rx.
The probe is interacting now with wall of  waveguide( for  simplicity  take cylindrical waveguide)
due to XYZ geometry and charge distribution if active probe is used.
https://www.radioexperimenter.us/exp-1966/precision-slotted-line.html (https://www.radioexperimenter.us/exp-1966/precision-slotted-line.html)
Think of it as probe from inner side instead  form outer side.The opposite of that from patent.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3391355 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3391355)
As we humans are inside of it.
So traditional slotted line is compromise taking place due to  its physical dimension.
and by that we are no longer limited with frequency response of Slotted Line
More in next post.

Q.Вот теперь вообще понятно стало! Не все твои зрители учёные и знают вещи, которые для тебя элементарны.
Поэтому столько вопросов было. Я не мог представить как выглядит эта волна и как себя ведёт в среде.
И ты объяснил не только мне одному. Многие, кто прочитает эту переписку, тоже поймут об этой волне.
Таким образом, я своими вопросами подтягиваю тебе аудиторию, которая прочитав комментарии лучше
поймёт суть твоих идей, что ты хочешь донести.

Note:
I can understand all of 27 Slavic languages but I can speak only few of them so I'm sorry  I can not translate
based on given group request,  as I'm not able to be accurate in writing.

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 10, 2019, 02:47:34 PM
Related to previous post  look up in green color
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3391355 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3391355)
Tariel Kapanadze did not have slotted line so he prick HV wire to find the right  phase and maximum amplitude, to adjust phase  relation .
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=639 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=639)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 11, 2019, 02:24:21 AM
 related to post  from above (brown color)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 11, 2019, 12:15:25 PM
Related to  subject from above.
Continuation by implementation of another block
to previous schematic ( look here)
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=265 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=265)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 12, 2019, 12:08:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sp2hzYWf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7sp2hzYWf0)
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08294 (https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08294)
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The link below is explanation of  picture FErers222 -1.jpg (   from post above.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBE_H1b_e0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBE_H1b_e0&feature=youtu.be)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 12, 2019, 01:03:44 AM
Q:Warning! Меня человек предупредил по поводу данного видео: "
Эта лампа сильный источник гамма излучения, играться не рекомендую.
С фиолетовыми излучениями предельно осторожным надо быть."
A man warned me about this video
This lamp is a strong source of gamma radiation,
I do not recommend playing.
You should be extremely careful with violet color radiations.



Wesley's response:

Вы меня совершенно запутали
Я думаю, что вы ошибочно размещены - ответит в неправильном месте(  по ошибке отправили ответит не в том месте)
I think you mistakenly posted answer in the wrong place

Если вы говорите о Spark Gap:
If you are talking about this Spark Gap
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532343/#msg532343 (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgzR9C2RUISLNZ-LuJl4AaABAg.8sMAZhRJWb68sMFoquGXwK&redir_token=sHvkZVv6d8FJMDfmaTx55vI-3HZ8MTU1MjQzNTA1OEAxNTUyMzQ4NjU4&q=https%3A%2F%2Foverunity.com%2F17735%2Fwesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum%2Fmsg532343%2F%23msg532343)

Oтвет:
Kаждый разрядник генерирует рентген,( X-ray)
Every Spark Gap creates  X-ray
Striking one stone by another stone creates X-ray.

я не согласен с вами что эта трубка разрядника создает гамма.
Это абсолютно невозможно. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray#Gamma_ray_production (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgzR9C2RUISLNZ-LuJl4AaABAg.8sMAZhRJWb68sMFoquGXwK&redir_token=sHvkZVv6d8FJMDfmaTx55vI-3HZ8MTU1MjQzNTA1OEAxNTUyMzQ4NjU4&q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGamma_ray%23Gamma_ray_production)
У меня есть целая лаборатория физики элементарных частиц.
Но вместо того, чтобы спорить с вами, допустим, что вы правы, так чисто теоретически.
Если вы правы, говорите как ..?
Я уверен, что у вас нет ответа.
Each Spark Gap generates X-rays, (X-ray)
I disagree with you that this Spark Gap tube creates  gamma.
It is absolutely impossible.
Some spark gaps have been doped with  CS137 and so on.
But that has nothing  to do with generating gamma due to its Spark Gap operation.
I have whole lab of particle physics.

=================================================
Some material for you to watch about  this part of my lab.
Лекция для вас:

https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4?t=32 (https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4?t=32)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEqiS5H1DE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEqiS5H1DE)
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=164 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=164)
https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y?t=34
https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8 (https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 13, 2019, 01:42:02 AM
Wesley,

About to buy either a new cheaper spectrum analyzer or an older circa 2000 VNA.  Was wondering if you have a VNA with FFT capability from the era I see in your rack can it substitute well for the newer higher memory Spectrum analyzer with partial vector analyzer capability? In other words can you use your VNA for most of the SA functionality to the effect you would reach for this tool?
Also have you happened to find any option to allow power factor calcs with a VNA if one has a differential probe?  Some of these units look to have two inputs which beats a SA with a tracking gen.

I have been using the computer interface Spec Analyzer and just need a dedicated unit so thought these era 2000 units might be better with less memory but the ability to properly impedance match with a Smith charts and correct VSWR calculations. 

Thanks,
Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 13, 2019, 04:42:37 AM
In here I have 3  but actually two of them
( the third one is 4194A Gain Phase Analyzer this is great toy.)

R3754B  starts from 10kHz but it  goes up to 150MHz if needed
Faster than anything  new I have tested in the market.
Just "lightning fast"
in addition I have Impedance  parameters program similar to  LCR that was used by previous owner.
Some kind of exotic  luxury option.
here is the spec.
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/content.microlease.com/static/Catalogue/Datasheets/Advantest_R3754B.pdf (https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/content.microlease.com/static/Catalogue/Datasheets/Advantest_R3754B.pdf)

-HP 8753D 30 kHz to 3 GHz  but I have 6GHz version.
http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/networkanalyzers/8753d.htm (http://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/networkanalyzers/8753d.htm)
I must correct some information. from the previous post.
8753D Network Analyzer has a frequency range from 30 kHz to 3 GHz, which can be extended to 6 GHz with
Option 006, a resolution of 1 Hz, power range of -85 to +10 dBm, and a maximum input level of 10 dBm.
This model has a built-in S-parameter test set, which gives the user forward and reverse measurements, enabling
them to fully characterize their instrument with one connection.
https://www.apexwaves.com/analyzers/keysight-technologies/8753-network-analyzers/8753D (https://www.apexwaves.com/analyzers/keysight-technologies/8753-network-analyzers/8753D)



4194A gain phase  analyzer plus impedance it starts from 10Hz.
.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 13, 2019, 11:50:53 AM
More of R3754B
https://www.advantest.com/documents/11348/146687/pdf_mn_ER3754_user_MANUAL.pdf
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 13, 2019, 08:22:25 PM
So I can go the lowest to 10kHz with measurement of:
- my Tesla  coil resonances.
-any resonance circuit
My VNA or NA are   not the newest one but real goodies.

What I must compromise:
-everything below 10kHz.
 For that I use 4194A. that is ~30 years old unit, and nothing can be better in this price range.
   But..
             4194A is not VNA

So what is  the solution:
Here is quite tempting option:
https://www.advantest.com/web/advantest/products/electronic-measuring-instruments/r3755a-r3760 (https://www.advantest.com/web/advantest/products/electronic-measuring-instruments/r3755a-r3760)
The R3755A network analyzer
Note: do not look at the R3760 network analyzer,

Where to buy:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/ADVANTEST-NETWORK-ANALYZER-CARD-R3755A/131555851726?epid=1225141993&hash=item1ea156fdce:g:KoUAAOxy4fVTAFNM (https://www.ebay.com/itm/ADVANTEST-NETWORK-ANALYZER-CARD-R3755A/131555851726?epid=1225141993&hash=item1ea156fdce:g:KoUAAOxy4fVTAFNM)
they have 4 of them.
But shop around before you buy.


6. software source:
https://www.advantest.com/web/advantest/products/electronic-measuring-instruments/r3755a-r3760 (https://www.advantest.com/web/advantest/products/electronic-measuring-instruments/r3755a-r3760)
  on that page  click on button application
  go down  of the page to Firmware and read if the software is right for you. 

This is nice modern tool( ~2012) made by  reputable manufacturer
                   but again starts from 10kHz..... to 300MHz
                   so after you buy it and it works  you can't go lower than 10kHz

https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352)
Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 14, 2019, 01:03:02 AM
related to  previous post
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 14, 2019, 03:51:23 AM
Wesley,

Also can one use a frequency divider in order to go below the 10kHz or do we get too much impedance loading with low frequencies for such a solution to be practical?

I think there are multipliers to go the other way but likely one has to give up something to get like SNR or dynamic range...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 14, 2019, 09:21:26 PM
Not generation but wireless charging,  over kilometers :
https://thetechranch.com/global-energy-transmission-provides-ultimate-solution-for-infinite-drone-flight/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 14, 2019, 11:37:45 PM
lancaIV
This thing is 70 years old concept.https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=A58auF2dhCQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=A58auF2dhCQ)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 15, 2019, 12:18:44 AM
Microwave has been known for wireless charging way of rectenna for years, just keep the beam width tight but it is still lossy except for near field loose coupled resonance, if one can parallel keep high Q and get eventual gain but major pain.  There are more tricks of the trade like anything but for a drone is not efficient use of energy.

Wesley I was interested in which you reach for more often impedance or VNA, just curiosity and in the case of the impedance analyzer how do the in and output impedance work if not limited to 75 ohm coupling, I have never used.

I can do quite a bit with VTVM bare bones so yeah I know I don't need this gear and already have some good stuff for my audio business so may not bother.   Just would be cool to have some RF gear to help with antenna design.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 15, 2019, 12:33:37 AM

Let's go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=A58auF2dhCQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=A58auF2dhCQ)
The interview  is with : Leonid Plekhanov CEO of Global Energy Transmission (GET corp since April 2015.) established in  2015.
But patent application  is filed as company ( not as corporation,)  with 2 years later date.  03 17 2017.
So it looks like These Russians,  did not close their company,prior to opening corporation
and in USA company  can be you, and you, can be company.
Company is your "second last name" if you will.

So  that Patent Application  is not property of corporation unless stated.


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_9zn1vg6UbvFmJHj50bUcg/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_9zn1vg6UbvFmJHj50bUcg/videos)
Publisher had  only 20,224 views for all of their videos for all of this years.
Video generated  only 83 views since published on Jan 21, 2019.


 
 in other piece of paper they are shown as highly educated Moscow
Quote
Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology (MIPT) in 2005
(Department of Physics and Quantum Electronics),
Master of Science in applied physics and mathematics.  and  so on.

Compared :  video testimony and  this link:
http://getcorp.com/get-introduction/team/ (http://getcorp.com/get-introduction/team/)

Literature:
https://thetechranch.com/global-energy-transmission-provides-ultimate-solution-for-infinite-drone-flight/ (https://thetechranch.com/global-energy-transmission-provides-ultimate-solution-for-infinite-drone-flight/)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2017/0271925.html (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2017/0271925.html)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170271925A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20170271925A1/en)
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ba/95/34/16c08cb522ba87/US20170271925A1.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/ba/95/34/16c08cb522ba87/US20170271925A1.pdf)
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 16, 2019, 03:27:19 AM
Step1 measuring of real  structure  of Tesla   coil with VNA

We have been talking  about VNA and NA




Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 16, 2019, 05:06:38 AM
step 2. measuring of real
Tesla  coil structure with VNA
Original link:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172114/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172114/)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531984/#msg531984 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531984/#msg531984)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 16, 2019, 05:35:46 AM
 step 3 - 3aa. measuring of real
Tesla  coil structure with VNA

Literature:
page 3-9
page 3-10
https://www.advantest.com/documents/11348/146687/pdf_mn_ER3754_user_MANUAL.pdf (https://www.advantest.com/documents/11348/146687/pdf_mn_ER3754_user_MANUAL.pdf)
So one simple measurement and you know everything about   it.
It'll save you days of work .
So is it that simple?
Yes and no.
It is  simple but there are some variables that can not be solved by use of VNA.
example: your load ( output) is measured as if it was 50 ohm.
So you can connect in real  test few lightbulbs in series to compensate for 50 ohm.

And that's another discussion.

Wesley

Original link:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172114/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172114/)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531984/#msg531984 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531984/#msg531984)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 16, 2019, 06:33:58 AM
step 3.aaa measuring of real
Tesla  coil structure with VNA
Note: Attenuator is needed , but:
a. it is good to measure output voltage of your VNA
    or check what is the voltage it in manual.
b. Than prior to use VNA, connect tracking generator from your spectrum analyzer  or any sweep generator
    to primary of Tesla coil and at secondary connect your oscilloscope.
c. find frequency that has maximum amplitude on your oscilloscope.

d. based on this measurement you will know already  a lot about  your Tesla coil and you may not need  VNA.
    Voltage present in secondary of  Tesla coil will allow you to  get proper  attenuation required  by manual of your VNA. 
e. generator of  your working prototype should be tuned to red region of frequency generation
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 16, 2019, 02:00:09 PM
VNA

Some  of the VNA have been made for production line of X-tal
crystal oscillators.
And they have build in more tools to
measure  resonators and  resonating  circuits.

Tesla coil is:
- air transformer
- resonant transformer
- can act as filter

Assembly made of coils and capacitors can be treated as  one DUT
(Device Under Test )with single input and output.example of possible measurements is listed below:

Conclusion.
That what was taking months  and years now can be done in few minutes.
Most of you are happened to dig in the dark  for years, and VNA is your pair of glasses.
But you need some flashlight too.
I do really try, to provide it for you guys

Device made by you,  has one purpose, and that is Electrical Energy for Free
Such  a devices are exotic as:
 - scientific base of energy origin is questionable.
Note:Wesley provided  explanation, in this  part of forum.
 - prior art  exists  mostly in form of unexplained pieces of information
 - any device that is made for any purpose must be replicable (able to be copied or reproduced exactly.)

Note:
on the picture below
  -any time crystal resonator is used for our purpose you can use word  filter
   and Tesla Coil can  be our filter .
  That will analyzed in  next  post.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 16, 2019, 11:28:20 PM
Wesley,

Yes yes the VNA is better than graph paper and a a scope and mush guessing in the dark from all the interactions of RF.  OK I ordered old HP for few hundred bucks, hope it gets here and works, of course it will not be aligned so next I must ask do you think it is necessary to have the alignment kit or to just to rent ?   This unit supposedly goes from DC to 2 gHz and i don't plane on working more than a few mHz aside from that old 300 mHz battery we discussed if I ever get back to it.

Also a large expense are the probes, what does one need to work up to a few mHz besides some very good coax and connectors for the DUT?  I have heard that using the BNC to SMA adapters and some premade SMA cables can work pretty well, your thoughts?

Thanks,
Mick

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 16, 2019, 11:49:50 PM
Wesley,
As always digesting the very good info you post and the Smith tube video is super cool!   Thanks for all the charts and explanations.

Hey someone obviously wants you around.

Can I ask what it was you did in professional life, or is this too personal? 

Thanks again,
Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 17, 2019, 01:45:03 AM
Thank you for kind words.
Before you pay for VNA or NA.
some pros and cones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN9PKKdFibo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN9PKKdFibo)
note:
-Calibration kit can be any.
-look  at second picture.


some additional literature:
http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/S-Parameters-Scattering-parameter.html (http://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/S-Parameters-Scattering-parameter.html)
http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/sparameters.php (http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/sparameters.php)

Question is:
Do you need S parameter?
No you do not need S parameter but is good to have it.
And that  gives you a lot of room to hunt for used VNA or NA that is  not compromised  like  VNA from video.

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 17, 2019, 12:52:22 PM
Remote energy transmission, either thanks to the near field at a short distance that does not greatly exceed the size of the resonant system, or at a long distance by radiowaves beams or light beams, are conventional techniques known since the beginning of the 20th century.
Their efficiency is poor, and implementation is difficult, especially for powering mobile equipment, which is why the industry has made little use of them so far.
It has nothing to do with free energy.
Do somebody think that this kind of science results are unused or not improved since these papers/ knowledge publication worldwide ?

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Dd&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Manfred+gregor&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Dd&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Manfred+gregor&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
F.e. un-/ visible light beams in Terra-/Giga-Watt range( per sqcm)

For example for lunar/orbital/astral "Solar Farming" and 24/365 to earth transmission.
Or as Fusion reactor beam.
Or as welder.
Or for tunnel/channel construction ( stone/rock melting)

Similar research :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Winfield+salisbury&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Winfield+salisbury&CPC=&IC=)
East-/West-world comparison, completing and improving

As "13 years old boy/girl " you can soon begin to change your world  like he did :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSebastian_Ziani_de_Ferranti
Age in numbers does not indicate intelligence or wisdome.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on March 17, 2019, 02:35:38 PM
I agree Zenneck waves exists but misconception is it's radio waves.
Tesla knew about theoretical explanation of this kind of waves and this is what
we should investigate first. However the notion that it's an explanation of free energy is far from truth.
Free energy is much more simple.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 17, 2019, 06:18:16 PM
I agree Zenneck waves exists but misconception is it's radio waves.
Tesla knew about theoretical explanation of this kind of waves and this is what
we should investigate first. However the notion that it's an explanation of free energy is far from truth.
Free energy is much more simple.
Not only Tesla but Marconi  in 1918 in Bolinas California have been trying to do that what Viziv is doing.
Till RCA with Government  shut Marconi's project down in 1921.
So what I'm doing  is  fallowing Tesla and Marconi steps.
I'm investigating  the phenomena.
TEM Electromagnetic waves  can be polarized  in TM  or TE mode.
I do not see any misconception here.
Free Energy  is much more simple 
If you can share you opinion in this area  it will be interesting.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 17, 2019, 06:51:32 PM
Wesley,

I think the S parameters are important especially if one is trying to determine Brewster angle or whatever proper terminology is for Z wave.
Well lets see if the unit I purchased works on arrival before looking at other options,
Agilent 89441A

however this would likely be a good option if not:

https://store.siglentamerica.com/product/sva1015x/

Thank you for the info on the standards parts.  I am interested in what you think about probes or using SNA cables and adapter, highest and best use connecting DUT?

Brake lines messed with, besides being underhanded evil that is downright lacking in class and taste.  I think that Keshe guy is also a main suppression agent for them or else he would not be able to freely rip people off, he did the same thing to his own worker and this mans gf.  I guess if one wants to be a con man then simply sell OU bullshit.  Like world improvement ministries guy with a rap sheet of cons going back years.   I think they find these scammers and then somehow use them to data mine so everyone who has the answer or is close should take heed.

Had you known what you know now maybe you would not have put your neck out for everyone's benefit but then again it can only be accepted as evidence of success.
When books are burned or other data is censored or buried, this is predominantly for one reason.

If someone here wants to think empirically and wind some coils and attempt some actual bench work; like so many of the amazing people at this site then great, if not comments should be reserved and respectful from the theoretical thinkers who have not yet ventured into the lab.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 17, 2019, 10:08:39 PM
VNA uses directional  coupler so if you do not have VNA
but NA you are not is bad situation at all.
So it is must know it and must have it for many applications.!!!!!

#158: Directional Coupler Basics & how to sweep SWR of an antenna | Return Loss | VSWR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBK9ZIx9YaY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBK9ZIx9YaY)
Used directional couplers  you can get for 1 to 5 dollars or less from hamfests, or other similar places.   

I know that it sounds crazy to some of you but, don't worry about lower  range written on of them.
typical Directional  Coupler works from  above DC up 
Try it.
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 18, 2019, 09:45:06 AM
Shocking-effect. ?
Hello Ansis,

It would be no wonder if we estipulate these claims by 50 Hz net-grid frequency x HF-factor : 

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2004100349A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2004100349A1/en) 

Voltage dividing by frequency changes and possible claimed results, " Example 1"
https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US5130608A/en)

"Using Ohm's Law"  for the theory and compare with reality  !


wmbr
OCWL

p.s. : pulse power / Usherenko-effect
p.s. II : for all household heating appliances usefull , hot water and cooking related
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on March 18, 2019, 09:54:00 AM
Yes.
Shocking effect was discovered when load with non isolated wires was merged into water
with naked hands and we see no short circuit and we see light and we where not electricuted at all.
Next shock was wire diameter.
0.5 mm wire was enogh to transfer energy to long distances!, without looses!!!
It means, if Kapanarze use Energy Transver, he uses 20-300kHz fake "water pipe".
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on March 18, 2019, 10:55:31 AM
And yes, Kapanadze was in Latvia for 3 month!
And what?
Nothing.
He spend 20 000 Lats(currency) make health procedures in Linezers hospital and go home!
Why no results?
Because of no possibility to fake that "device".
All guys ask him, to give directions, materials to search for his MAGIC to come true!
Nothing.
It is "black box".
If peoples are lying to others, than that is only FOR MONEY!!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 18, 2019, 02:04:06 PM

After the incident Tariel didn't want to deal with L..ma any longer.


Dear Void  I know  everything that you don't
I speak their language as if I was one of them.
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on March 18, 2019, 08:30:51 PM
Hello Wesley. Maybe you have seen some of these old Kapanadze videos before, but here are some interesting
old videos of Kapanadze demonstrating some of his other types of free energy devices.
Several old videos showing Kapanadze's disk generators of a few types, what looks to be a car engine
that is running on water?, and a 'hydraulic' free energy generator. Where does an architect come up with this stuff? ;)
Is Tariel Kapanadze good friends with aliens? ;D

Установка Tariel Kapanadze/Тариеля Капанадзе (Одна из первых демонстраций)
Installation Tariel Kapanadze / Tariel Kapanadze (One of the first demonstrations)
(Some weird looking generator)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G8PVTKtOzA

Установка Tariel Kapanadze/Тариеля Капанадзе (Униполярка)
Setting Up Tariel Kapanadze / Tariella Kapanadze (Unipolary)
(Disc generators and a car engine running on water?)
(Edit: I don't see Kapanadze in the car engine demo part, but Kapanadze has mentioned once that he had such an invention)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JQSyQAVqzc

Гидравлический генератор Капанадзе 3 2015(сентябрь)
Hydraulic generator Kapanadze 3 2015 (September)
(self runs and lights up a bunch of lights)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdVLbev859M

There are a few more interesting Kapanadze videos on that same Youtube account some people
may not have seen before.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 19, 2019, 02:13:09 AM
Wesley,

Will the directional couplers rated to 1gHz for CATV work for the low SW frequencies and if so which levels of DB loss will serve better for SWR measurements lower or higher?

Perhaps this is a level of heresy, I don't know just looking for affordable ways to tinker.

Thanks,
Mick

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on March 19, 2019, 05:09:47 PM
Wesley, guys, I posted some links to some video demonstrations of some other types of devices
by Kapanadze including some different types of disc generators, and an apparent hydraulic generator from 2015.
Apparently quite different approaches/configurations than Kapanadze's coil generators.
See those video links here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532768/#msg532768

Apparently the video at the first link is one of Kapanadze's very first demos. It would be interesting
to know what Kapanadze had to say in that very early demo, to compare notes.
Do you think there could be a common principle behind all of Kapanadze's quite different types of generators
(coil, discs, hydraulic)? If you think there is a common principle behind them, what do you see that might be in
common between these three different approaches (besides possible tricks ;) ) ? If they all work on different principles,
then how could Kapanadze come up with three completely different approaches like that? If they are all working on the same
or similar principle, then what may be common between those three different types of Kapanadze generators?
A puzzle for you.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nelsonrochaa on March 19, 2019, 07:49:16 PM
   Nelson:   Well, no you didn't clarify the part about self running and self feed back. As most all of the shown self runners are based on a feed back circuit, to keep them going.
   In the video below, translated by Wesley, you are showing a device that needs only a one or just a few second pre-charge to start. But, then it is shown running on it's own for much longer than it would normally be expected from the small 9v battery one second change. As your device was stopped after a short while, I would now have to assume that it does not keep running for much longer than what is being shown, less than a minute.  Is this correct?
     https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0 (https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0)
    You can also PM me, if you'd rather not discuss this openly. I would understand your position.
Hi Nick,

Nick, I am not going to detail the process used in this circuit, because I am currently disputing in court the intellectual property of this same system, which was retained in Germany by the company with which I was working, but what is demonstrated in this video is not an overunity system, the system was not projected to self run even could self run some minutes , with a resistive load.
It is a Resonant system with some interesting characteristics of "amplification"able to show more work in output than it is input in terms of efficiency, But it is all mere assumptions on my side that would have to be checked in the laboratory with independent and competent entities.
This is a unpublished video where you could see the same circuit without be totally assembled, but show how much power a 9v could store :) and provide output  :) to a 60w 220v motor with a a 2kg metal disc on the load.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JEYdPrEdXYX8AMHR6
All the best Nick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on March 19, 2019, 07:58:49 PM
Hi Nick, my guess is Kapanadze somehow got his hands on a compilation containing a collection
of different inventions for free energy. Maybe some secret document(s) compiled by some department of
the former Soviet military, and somebody passed it on to Kapanadze, or Kapanadze otherwise got his hands on it.
Kapanadze seems to be a very smart guy. With that basic starting information, he was able to replicate several different
types of devices. Either that, or Kapanadze is pretty friendly with some aliens. ;D

That first generator that Kapanadze shows at the first video link I posted seems to possibly be
an electric motor driving a long shaft with several non-balanced fly wheels on it of different types, and
the end of that shaft drives a generator which loops back and powers the electric motor.

This appears to be different than his other disc generators which might only have two discs of two
different types of metal, and which may be some special type of homopolar generators.

Then the hydraulic generator appears to work on a completely different type of setup.
If you add Kapanadze's different coil generators onto that list, and possibly even a car engine that
can run on water, and you get quite a few different types of free energy generators coming from one man. 
All of them are amazing on their own, if legit. Pretty mind boggling coming from one person.
So, either former Soviet secret compendium document of free energy inventions, or Tariel talks to aliens. ;D

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on March 19, 2019, 10:02:49 PM
   Nelson:   Well, no you didn't clarify the part about self running and self feed back. As most all of the shown self runners are based on a feed back circuit, to keep them going.
   In the video below, translated by Wesley, you are showing a device that needs only a one or just a few second pre-charge to start. But, then it is shown running on it's own for much longer than it would normally be expected from the small 9v battery one second change. As your device was stopped after a short while, I would now have to assume that it does not keep running for much longer than what is being shown, less than a minute.  Is this correct?
     https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0 (https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0)
    You can also PM me if you'd rather not discuss this openly. I would understand your position.
Interesting video did you notice the black torrid, now that is interesting.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 21, 2019, 11:29:58 AM
For TheOldScientist:
Dear TheOldScientist (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNbdkwT-LstmshlLDOqs7JA)​ I'm very  impressed with your work.
However  I have different opinion about DSW. It  is 2019 now  giving us new light  on the subject matter.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532845/#msg532845 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532845/#msg532845)
The two related to surface wave videos are here. :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ&t=565s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ&t=565s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&t=1s)
You may also view, not related but giving  a perspective at some of my lab activities at:
https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4?t=32 (https://youtu.be/GdlkeI0bXy4?t=32)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEqiS5H1DE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxEqiS5H1DE)
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=164 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=164)
https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y?t=34 (https://youtu.be/k2PJVIkyW5Y?t=34)
https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8 (https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 23, 2019, 12:13:39 AM
Part2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJzn8Y1HFw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJzn8Y1HFw)

Basic explanation  about  transverse and longitudinal wave.
Electromagnetic  wave ( also omnidirectional) do not require medium,
Transverse electromagnetic wave TEM .......... do not require medium,(TEM means directional wave)
Mechanical   longitudinal wave .............................. requires medium ,
Electromagnetic Surface wave is TEM  needs no medium but needs waveguide  or interface. This wave is traveling inside of waveguide or interface from point of origination A to point where load is connected. B
That travel along the earth/air interface takes time                           
                             
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 23, 2019, 02:28:17 AM
Tom Bearden,

Quote
“Some time in or before 2001, Bearden began to identify himself as "Tom Bearden, Ph.D.", and claims to have written a Ph.D. thesis,
he has never made this thesis public or provided affiliation or details.
The Skeptical Inquirer, among others, revealed that Bearden obtained his Ph.D. for "life experience and for life accomplishment" from Trinity College
and University, which the magazine describes as "a British institution with no building, campus, faculty, or president, and run from a post office box
in Sioux Falls, South Dakota".
This institution is not accredited by any recognized accreditation association and is generally regarded as a diploma mill.
It has since changed its name to Bronte International University and its exact location is uncertain.”
You can call him “Doctor”
They are empty meaningless self-appointed titles.
“Bearden founded and directed the Alpha Foundation's Institute for Advanced Study (AIAS) to further propagate his theories.
This group has published papers in established physics journals and in books published by leading publishing houses,
but one analysis lamented these publications because the texts were "full of misconceptions and misunderstandings concerning
the theory of the electromagnetic field" and also states that ‘existence of non-transverse waves in vacuum does not imply
that electromagnetism is not a U (1) gauge theory.’“
“Bearden supports his various claims with a wide range of crank theories, including the proposal that all electrical devices,
from batteries to electromechanical generators, in reality operate on vacuum energy.

These theories offer no concrete testable predictions, none have been published in independent, peer-reviewed physics
literature, and Bearden himself has little formal training in physics.”
He is not a credentialed ‘Renegade’, a man of science – he is just self-proclaimed set of credentials.


Read also here about  Eric Dollard:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532845/#msg532845 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532845/#msg532845)

Wesley
Note: Above quote contains  opinion expressed only.
And  just because it is posted by me.
It is in category of  my  personal opinion expressed.
As it was reedited  by me to fit socially  acceptable format.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tsl on March 26, 2019, 09:57:34 AM
Hello there,
@Stivep i'm really interested in your theory about how one could extract energy from the "schuman wave guide" would you care to elaborate a bit more on that? i personally have only some ideas but no real theory or the needed know how to be able to come up with one
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 26, 2019, 01:45:38 PM
Visited:
Ted A.
2 FE guys
1 university
got 1 electron microscope
1683 miles  in 2 days/2 nights
I'm going to bed

Wesley

literature/ source
main video. https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE)
picture1  https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=277 (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=277)
picture 5  and  picture 6  https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=471 (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=471)
Electron microscope stack photo . ( I did not take pictures of it yet)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 26, 2019, 02:25:59 PM
Visiting their laboratory https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.tedmagnetics.com/) and getting their development results demonstrated :
                                                     C. O. P.  : ?   Impressed  ?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150364979 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150364979)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/en)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070242406A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070242406A1/en)

Sincerely
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on March 26, 2019, 06:21:02 PM
In that case why do it your self ? when you could have PM'd him?

and he has 3 threads with all the same name, I mean! why let anyone post here at all!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 27, 2019, 12:47:37 AM
Hi Wesley,

That's far out, what do you intend your first use of the EScope, checking out core materials?

You must have a large home or a very understanding wife as likely there is gear all over you place.

Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 27, 2019, 12:56:48 AM
Hi Ianca,

That't the flux switching design used in old puter mag ram memory, also the magnetic boots Radis.  Joe Flynn is said to have worked very hard getting the bugs out. http://www.flynnresearch.net/technology/PPMT%20Technology.htm

Requires a rectangular BH curve material.  Or take a step further with conditioned magnets and then one has the Sweet device.

Samsung is said to make a motor based on flux switching but very difficult to find, not sure if they are allowed out of Japan.

Mk
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2019, 01:30:12 AM
Active or passive switch devices :

https://books.google.pt/books?id=iwEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=wiegand+coil&source=bl&ots=05KqLezhpG&sig=ACfU3U0SOyaqT2Z6VAQuCZvO8NKvRb5bGw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGvq6hhqHhAhWtyYUKHXyWDu8Q6AEIGzAF#v=onepage&q=wiegand%20coil&f=false (https://books.google.pt/books?id=iwEAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=wiegand+coil&source=bl&ots=05KqLezhpG&sig=ACfU3U0SOyaqT2Z6VAQuCZvO8NKvRb5bGw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGvq6hhqHhAhWtyYUKHXyWDu8Q6AEIGzAF#v=onepage&q=wiegand%20coil&f=false)
Probably this is the " electromagnetic phenomena" used by him as "coated wire " :
https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390)


Flynn brothers research and usefull info https://web.archive.org/web/20040610131607/http://flynnresearch.net/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20040610131607/http://flynnresearch.net/)
Flynns company name now : https://www.qmpower.com/ (https://www.qmpower.com/)

This  is for me the question for getting the right answer and solution  !?

https://www.tedmagnetics.com/energy/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Results_v4-e1464274784852.jpg
                                           

                                   EMP/signal input and output ( kind?)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on March 27, 2019, 10:27:24 AM
Comparing the power density from a " nuclear power to heat to electric plant"  with Harry Goldbaums device

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390)
A nominal generator, approximately the volume of two men's shoe boxes, including the battery and control module, can supply extraordinary output.. Even operating at a low frequency of 400 hertz, the net induced voltage is +/- 8.4Kva/sec, (which is an hourly rating of 30.2Mva/hr (40,500Hp)). For comparison, power plants generate from 375 to 758 Mva; a wind turbine generates 2-3 Mva; a large heliostat may generate 280Mva..

show us how powerfull  10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm [ dividing with 2 men' s shoebox volume and multiplicate with f.e. 29767 KW (~ 40500 hp by 400 Hz propulsion)]  " EMP POWER CUBES " could become !
In this power range motor controler ,inverter and battery charger are in the 1 $cent/W production costs level.
From Euro-currency view and for comparison : $, Hongkong or U.S. ?

1 shoebox dimension : 35 cm x 20 cm x 10 cm  =   7000 ccm
2         "                           :                = 7000 ccm x 2 = 14000 ccm


 EMP POWER CUBE       10 cm x 10 cm x 10 cm =   1000 ccm

         29767 KW ( 400 Hz): 14 = more than 2 MW per " EMP POWER CUBE"
I think that 1/100 from 2 MW is for the common household sufficient :

                    " MICRO EMP POWER CUBE" ( POWER STICK )               
                     like https://www.logistik-xtra.de/polysteel-600 (https://www.logistik-xtra.de/polysteel-600)

Taking oeko-energie.de and mtbest.net their " intelligent household" consume numbers,1/1000 from 2 MW is enough :

                                      a theoretical 1 cm x 1 cm x 1 cm cube with 2 KW output( 400 Hz)

                                                        Negative "sink" Voltage energy

 1 Wh = 3600 Wsec and by 400 Hz cycling : 3600 x 400 x 2 = 2880000 Wpulse( average, Wpulse peak?)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 02:59:39 PM


1. https://youtu.be/2G8PVTKtOzA?t=528 (https://youtu.be/2G8PVTKtOzA?t=528) here is ground wire. (look at picture: ground wire of Tariel Kapanadze electro hydraulic device.jpg                               )
2. https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=849 (https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=849)  this combustion engine  is HHO operated ( exclude this part  of video  please)
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homopolar_generator) in parts of video where Faraday disc is  shown , it is to amuse the audience. ( ground wire is not excluded)
4.  https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=1299 (https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=1299) here electric motor is  powering Faraday disc, and Faraday disc
     is producing synchronizing impulses for HV Generator only. ( ground wire is not excluded) https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=651 (https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=651)
     It fits my explanation about active probe. https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=261 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=261)
5. https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=4296 (https://youtu.be/7JQSyQAVqzc?t=4296) ( ground wire is not excluded)
6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_FsBn2qxk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_FsBn2qxk) capacitive   active load coupling used many times by Tariel, Akula, Ruslan.( look at picture below)
    so the wire has  two functions:
   - capacitive coupling ( not required when  real ground is connected)
   - when real ground is used : tuning circuit (The LC circuit) between ground and LC oof the coil.   
7. verification  by Stefanov  of ground wire: https://youtu.be/e_kXFGNdANU?t=429 (https://youtu.be/e_kXFGNdANU?t=429)
    short story:
               
Kapanadze has also claimed he had an invention of an internal combustion engine which ran on water.
Do not confuse two of them. HHO is different concept.


Should we ignore all of that because it doesn't fit in with someone's preferred speculations of how his devices work?
That is a serious question.
That is correct.
Receiver is more  forgiving. I does not have to  look like traditional  Tesla Coil.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 05:57:00 PM
Corum brothers:

Some helpful links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum_bib.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum_bib.htm)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum.htm)
https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/ (https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/)
http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-3/dr.james.f.corum.htm (http://www.zamandayolculuk.com/html-3/dr.james.f.corum.htm)
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/bullshit-texzon-wireless-power/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/dodgy-technology/bullshit-texzon-wireless-power/)
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/corumzenneck.html (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/corumzenneck.html)
https://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf (https://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/9xixyv/the_corums_have_funding_texzon_technology_is_now/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/9xixyv/the_corums_have_funding_texzon_technology_is_now/)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/9xixyv/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/9xixyv/)the_corums_have_funding_texzon_technology_is_now/ go to  below and look for links
Quote
It's neat they're revisiting Tesla's early tower work from before 1910. I wonder if they're using the low frequencies Tesla talked about like the 4-12 kHz range he mentioned in patents.
Corum bros are already at 18kHz



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 27, 2019, 06:27:54 PM
Backing up a little as another member brought up the TED device from Wesley's video mentioning Ted Annis.  I would like to present the "missing" source of the energy for everyone to dig into.
https://earthsky.org/earth/mms-data-new-event-magnetic-reconnection-plasma
https://science.energy.gov/news/featured-articles/2018/10-03-18/
https://www.americanscientist.org/article/reconnecting-magnetic-fields
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 06:44:47 PM
mkjekyl
some addition to magnetics with regards to Ted Annis

Quote
//Dr. Prat-Camps said: "We have created the first device that behaves like a diode for magnetic fields.//
//or to make one magnet connect to another without the connection happening in the opposite direction.//

https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-defy-19th-century-law-physics.html (https://m.phys.org/news/2018-11-defy-19th-century-law-physics.html)

Wes
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 27, 2019, 07:27:50 PM
http://cds.cern.ch/record/39474/files/11465.jpeg?version=1
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 07:56:59 PM
Visiting their laboratory https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.tedmagnetics.com/) and getting their development results demonstrated :
                                                     C. O. P.  : ?   Impressed  ?
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150364979 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150364979)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/en)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070242406A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070242406A1/en)
Sincerely
OCWL
Thank You  lancaIV
picture #8 shows reluctance switches drivers.
That means  flip/flops- each  pair of banana connectors is for one reluctance switch.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 09:34:10 PM
Ted Annis
100kW/h
reluctance switches should be  placed at places next to bar magnets( magnets are visible from this position  as they are behind the top bars)
Reluctance switches are not shown on the pictures .
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 27, 2019, 10:08:24 PM
more of  it
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2019, 02:46:09 AM
Ted Annis 5a look for  1  page back
"Plastic  or aluminum" doesn't play   any function .
It is just structure added to keep  everything together.


I'm little confused between 5a and 5b:
Location of magnets should be shown on my video file that
I have made during my visit .
But concept of operation of 100kW/h is  exactly the same as shown on my
already published YouTube video.
Look here: https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg533027/#msg533027



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
#1  For Ted Annis  in subject matter:

Terfenol-D
1.5x10=15
15=$5000
5000/15=1/15 of the 10" =$33.333
And that is  enough.


http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf)  -go to Magnetic Resonance Power System Suggestions for Construction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0sGJCabMTY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0sGJCabMTY) mechanical force effect on Terfenol-D
https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/rtd/214/ (https://lib.dr.iastate.edu/rtd/214/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4fGxVlV7g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cG4fGxVlV7g)
https://youtu.be/P99zwRV7Wns?t=6      Terfenol D
https://youtu.be/uc4EVhl-EuY?t=111
Terfenol-D, an alloy of the formula TbxDy1−xFe2 (x ~ 0.3), is a magnetostrictive material. It was initially developed in the 1970s by
the Naval Ordnance Laboratory in United States.http://activesignaltechnologies.com/Terfenol1.html
=================================
skip it as  to be watched last:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terfenol-D wikipedia.
https://youtu.be/FdNuGp01pcE?t=293
http://tdvib.com/terfenol-d/  where to buy it.
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/TERFENOL-D  some applications

Wesley



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2019, 04:16:11 PM
#2  For Ted Annis  in subject matter:

https://youtu.be/uc4EVhl-EuY?t=142 (https://youtu.be/uc4EVhl-EuY?t=142)
the picture is large to  better show details
http://activesignaltech.com/Terfenol1.html

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2019, 08:50:49 PM
more of Ted
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2019, 09:09:39 PM
This  is  really good. :)
1. Tesla coil winder:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqC4ZJxYxo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyqC4ZJxYxo&feature=youtu.be)
- one of the buttons of calculator disassembled and now used  with magnetic contact from alarm system  .
- the cut off  part of drill with the switch on it is used for variable  speed adjustment.

=======================================================
2.
3D printer used to print parts of more sophisticated Tesla Coil Winder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jFp8tXoh0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jFp8tXoh0)


3. for comparison few of  Wesley;s winders video from 2012/13 and some other machines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsEBfDNRFhM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsEBfDNRFhM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOT7Bg6oipw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOT7Bg6oipw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW7-YPPDjCk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW7-YPPDjCk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fQ63GTmKA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_fQ63GTmKA)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 29, 2019, 01:48:09 AM
more of Ted Annis.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 29, 2019, 02:37:44 AM
Galfenol is less expensive and almost as good a magnetostriction as Terfenol.  I had time to watch the Annis video in full today and noticed Wesley put up some mag-ram and a square BH so sorry to be redundant but it's nice to know others think alike.  Also read the Annis patent and he mentions the Radus boots too, pretty cool.

Might even be able to DIY galfenol with iron and gallium and a forge.  Best prices I found on Alibaba

Now I must ask what property does Terfenol D have besides converting movement to energy or energy to movement in a very high Q?

Some other ideas, what core materials dont short out high voltage, Barrium Ferrite, Micrometal...

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 29, 2019, 01:04:46 PM
Thank you mkjekyll

https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE (https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE)
 link are at first post below  the video:
Pinned by stivep1      stivep1   (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA)

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2009046265A1/tr (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpatents.google.com%2Fpatent%2FWO2009046265A1%2Ftr&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx),   compare dates of filing. Это устройство работает с, самозапиткой, selflooping
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/62/00/84/e06f92b5a2938e/WO2009046265A1.pdf (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2F62%2F00%2F84%2Fe06f92b5a2938e%2FWO2009046265A1.pdf&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx)  compare different versions !!!!
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/5b/06/7a/a683a3e327631c/US20140091890A1.pdf (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpatentimages.storage.googleapis.com%2F5b%2F06%2F7a%2Fa683a3e327631c%2FUS20140091890A1.pdf&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx), compare different versions !!!!
https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tedmagnetics.com%2F&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) https://www.tedmagnetics.com/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tedmagnetics.com%2F&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx)
https://maritime.org/doc/neets/mod01.pdf (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmaritime.org%2Fdoc%2Fneets%2Fmod01.pdf&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Workshop/advice/coils/mu/#bhcurve (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=http%3A%2F%2Finfo.ee.surrey.ac.uk%2FWorkshop%2Fadvice%2Fcoils%2Fmu%2F%23bhcurve&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx)
https://www.doitpoms.ac.uk/tlplib/ferroelectrics/printall.php (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.doitpoms.ac.uk%2Ftlplib%2Fferroelectrics%2Fprintall.php&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) http://fullfunctioneng.com/info/Hall%20vs%20VR.pdf (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=http%3A%2F%2Ffullfunctioneng.com%2Finfo%2FHall%2520vs%2520VR.pdf&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) !!!! important
http://www.cmi-ferrite.com/products/Gapped.htm (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cmi-ferrite.com%2Fproducts%2FGapped.htm&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) http://www.eamagnetics.com/product/ceramicferrite/ (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eamagnetics.com%2Fproduct%2Fceramicferrite%2F&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg8V9XCgIqs)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=comments&stzid=UgxmpeE4NwhCqlCkUt94AaABAg&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.researchgate.net%2Fpublication%2F224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor&redir_token=sgThjYWSS7YO-_IwZuW33Q3OGRF8MTU1Mzk0NzQyMUAxNTUzODYxMDIx)

These  are the links for Ted Annis
Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 29, 2019, 06:44:51 PM
Super cool winding machines Wesley!
The torroid one looks like fun, but I imagine wastes quite a bit of wire if all bearings and moving parts are not smoothly operating and aligned.

I would like to order two coils from you if you can accommodate, but as is well known there are only so many hours in a day?

I ran into the quagmire of coil winding machines or lack thereof, as it seems there is very little for the experimenter that can accommodate the length or girth without getting ito something one needs machinery movers to relocate.

I picture something along the lines of a cheap wood lathe from Harbor Fright with a sowing machine foot pedal and an opto-counter  For the more adventurous an additional transverse of some type with a stepper motor that could be added to such a simple contraption and controlled via some optical limits with reflective absorptive stickers.



I was looking at the Chinese CNC winders but doubt those can accommodate much more than a guitar pickup and the operation of these so called CNC winders is difficult to find.

Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on March 29, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
Wesley,

Thank you for the answer/inference to that query. At first glance seems like a way to accommodate fast switching with a saturable reactor. I will have to drill down further in the previously linked authors thesis here:

https://tspace.library.utoronto.ca/bitstream/1807/17754/1/Dolan_Dale_SL_200906_PhD_Thesis.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 30, 2019, 10:34:28 PM
Науч.Студия SERGEY KACHAN
Scientific Study
High Voltage Radiometer Test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvycYK3NBpg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvycYK3NBpg&feature=youtu.be)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 30, 2019, 11:13:06 PM
Addition to magnetics started from mentioning Ted Annis
 
A Brief Tour of the IEC Factory Floor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bA2OMRcxKo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bA2OMRcxKo&feature=youtu.be)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbWkIKgehLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbWkIKgehLI)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCUQc5Q2NzSqEUdk9naoXQ (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoCUQc5Q2NzSqEUdk9naoXQ)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 01, 2019, 12:23:22 AM
Polarisation of Transverse Waves
This  is simply amazing video.

So the point is:
to be  able to create surface wave we need first  to polarize it in XYZ Cartesian space.
We may apply  Euclidean geometry as well but  for simplicity  lets  just stay the first one.

and now watch this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1RuhKTwlV4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1RuhKTwlV4)



For these who did not fallow my series about surface wave please watch this:
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=591 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=591)

This is how Corum brothers did it and you can do it too.
Wesley


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 01, 2019, 12:40:43 AM
Simplified  explanation of polarization.
The phenomena of reflection, refraction, interference, diffraction are common to both transverse waves and longitudinal waves.
But the transverse nature of  electromagnetic  wave is demonstrated  by the phenomenon of polarization.
Light is  electromagnetic wave as well.
And when light is directional than this is Electromagnetic Transverse  Wave TEM

Polarization of transverse waves:
If we were to use light as an example
Light waves coming out of   some crystals
 have their "vibrations" in only one direction, perpendicular to the direction of propagation.
These waves are said to be polarized.
Since the vibrations are restricted to only one plane parallel to the axis of the crystal, the light is said to be plane polarized.
(the same is with any other frequency)
The phenomenon of restricting the "vibrations" into a particular plane is known as polarization.
https://youtu.be/K0vaLj2ZRA4?t=53 (https://youtu.be/K0vaLj2ZRA4?t=53)
https://youtu.be/JWy0QsBZgbk?t=65

We need vertically polarized surface wave.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 01, 2019, 01:58:27 AM
https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg533160/#msg533160 (https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg533160/#msg533160)
Thank you for the link  r2fpl
Excellent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU)
I have little problem with  author   graphical explanation
in terms of impedance match.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 01, 2019, 05:41:36 AM
Excellent entry to understand polarization of electromagnetic wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AcKIcF7VY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AcKIcF7VY)

We  do  not have here TM mode of TEM wave but  having  right understanding   we  can move into  TM.
It is unfortunate  but it is realistic to say that:
-some of you may chose to move by  biological horse energy
- some others by  mechanical horse power
- someone else by  electrical equivalent of   the above.

By that I say that  everything is easy or very easy, but you can read - only if you know an alphabet of   phenomena  responsible  for Surface Wave.
The difference between scientist  and average person can  be insignificant after few days of watching  (by you) some of  the material dedicated to surface wave.
My posts are short  I'm traveling again.
Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 01, 2019, 11:46:52 AM
 ::)   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric)  ;)

and clearly : https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDiode

Servus           
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 12:46:21 AM
As requested:
Answer to Acca/ MAGNETVORTEX
Magnet Flux Block for IEC Earth Engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksltXUWRvh4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksltXUWRvh4)
Sector based magnetization is alternative technique  that can make sectors in one piece  of  magnetized material.
There is no such thing as monopole magnet.
The biggest mistake of many of you is that  when:
- bar is 10cm long
- south is magnetized 3cm from left side of the bar
- North is magnetized  at the end of right side of the bar
than  south will behave  as  regular magnet.. that you made S longer by extending it with  the same piece of material.
The Gaussmeter will  show  at the left hand side extended  South  lower  magnetic flux.

Your sample may vary from  my drawing.!!
===============================================
The lack of  magnetic field  around the sandwich or  half of the sandwich is explained by closing magnetic flux  with that metal bracket.
But that only applies to  very much particular magnetization.

As you remember  magnetic flux of ferrite ring is  self contained too.   
Literature:
https://www.microwavejournal.com/directories/3337-buyer-s-guide/listing/763-walker-scientific-inc-walker-magnetic-group
Please note that videos how to magnetize sectors in one piece of materials  have been removed by  the company.
I was  able to see them but I did not make copy of it.
It happened in 2015 /16
If you are able to find them  in any place it will be you contribution to that what Stefan is trying to do now.
I do not have time  to look  for it as I  deal with   another electron microscope  that   must be transported and installed.
Many times you have complained  including NickZ that I'm  not giving you  full information ..

You want more  than show me more!!!!


I know how to do it and I have devices to do it.
But with video  everything will be clear
Show me how much you care!!



Wesley 
So we are talking about any information  of sector magnetization( name can be different)
by Walker Scientific  magnetic division.. to be found anywhere in the  internet space.
or any other as videos have been deleted  on purpose. ( e.g technology sold to others)
This may  explain secret   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZkuteW_Q9k&feature=youtu.be&t=19 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZkuteW_Q9k&feature=youtu.be&t=19)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 02, 2019, 01:24:41 AM
Oh cool you have magnetizers!

You can use to make Floyd Sweet device, to condition barium magnet need a SCR to set so unit only triggers at top center of compression of sine, feed sine freq of choice into magnet (US probably 60Hz) and switch polarity n-s-n-s-n-s etc

When success can see movable blob viewing magnet on CRT with second magnet.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 01:54:06 AM
 

I DID THE QUICK  SEARCH IN YOUTUBE  BUT I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING ABOUT SECTOR MAGNETIZATION .
IT LOOKS LIKE THE BEST KEPT SECRET.
YOU GUYS  NEED TO LOOK IN  WEB PAGES.
APART FROM IT, IT IS GOOD MONEY TOO.
BUT I HAVE TO MUCH FUN IN LIFE  .............TO CONCENTRATE MYSELF ON MAKING MONEY.
SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP DUE TO LACK OF TIME.

In  order   for you to understand what I'm looking for is video explanation  can be on vimeo or youtube
-method of magnetization of sectors in   one solid piece of material.
videos below are interesting but nit yet  that what IU;m looking for.
and not yet what you need.
Please help me to find it.
the  example of  sector magnetization but not technique of  doing so is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&index=4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&index=4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzQJLGtJV9o&index=7&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzQJLGtJV9o&index=7&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7) partial but not yet.
https://youtu.be/TPNLjxRf_GI?list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&t=150 (https://youtu.be/TPNLjxRf_GI?list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&t=150) this one show coil needed to magnetize material.
and you need specialized coils for my magnetizer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CXl2Gyl6h8  I didn't see it yet but it sounds  interesting
https://youtu.be/2wQZ1ZCsrRo?t=293 (https://youtu.be/2wQZ1ZCsrRo?t=293) I didn't see it yet  so I do not know if it is valuable



but not here:
======================================================================================
1.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_y05q7J58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_y05q7J58) this guy  doesn't know  what he  has and how to use it but I hope he was able to learn.
2.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMJN_hoVbk&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VMJN_hoVbk&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7) this one is for speakers
3.https://youtu.be/CdQAZ-e6494?t=169 (https://youtu.be/CdQAZ-e6494?t=169)
4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzXRFp0DDrU&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&index=12 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzXRFp0DDrU&list=PLG3u0gcV6DRNgwaPAt-UzL86h6qOawmf7&index=12) this one is just cool  but nothing more.
5.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SbUHzqiAfM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SbUHzqiAfM) industrial magnetizer




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 02:42:59 AM
http://www.walkermagnet.com/lifting-magnets-overview.htm (http://www.walkermagnet.com/lifting-magnets-overview.htm)
I went to their  web  site but no words about my magnetizer
So they might have been  told to remove videos  and keep their mouth shut or they sold technology
to entity that doesn't want that to be known.

So we may speculate:
what such entity could be!!!!
So I'm asking you to dig  for anything  any trace of it
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 03:00:55 AM
copy of manual:

Wesley

ps: look for more:
https://www.artisantg.com/PLC/57663-1/Walker_Scientific_DCM_30_DCM_Series_Direct_Current_Magnetizer
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 03:27:14 AM
so  what happened with series of these educational videos
and where to look for trace of it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 04:05:17 AM
Hunting  missing videos:

http://www.walkermagnet.com/ (http://www.walkermagnet.com/)
News
We Moved
Walker Magnetics, a subsidiary of Spencer Turbine, has relocated our Worcester, Massachusetts Sales and Engineering
office to our existing Windsor, Connecticut production facility effective November 5th, 2018.
This move completes the integration of Walker Magnetics with Spencer Turbine, which began with the relocation
of our manufacturing capabilities to the Windsor facility last year. Going forward,
Walker Magnetic will be a stronger company poised for growth and in a better position to service our valued clients.
The Walker team’s new address is:
600 Day Hill Rd
Windsor, CT 06095

After 2 hours  spend I found that this  technology is  intentionally unavailable
For these who do not understand  what is going on.
In 2015/16  I have seen  series of videos explaining how to connect  fixtures - coils  able to magnetize regions sectors in solid piece of magnetizable material.
that means I could have 20 different magnets  in  one small  piece of material without cuts and in different  XYZ patterns.
Than in one day  videos  have been removed.
It looks like MA headquarter of Walker Scientific after  relocation  ..was not  relocated.  but it was  closed or sold.

I can tell you this is  easy and big .....

Wesley
   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 02, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
https://youtu.be/IANBoybVApQ

This company has a patent for it and I saw it. This is point magnetization. Each surface with any pattern is applied as a pixel with appropriate polarity step by step. The effect is amazing. It is a type of CNC machine with a strong polarizing head.

This way you can have any number of fields in any area like hundreds of small magnets or millions.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2019, 12:02:35 PM
r2fpl,thanks for sharing !
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmable_magnet
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 01:11:10 PM
that video https://youtu.be/IANBoybVApQ (https://youtu.be/IANBoybVApQ) starts from showing closed manufacturing pump plant.
But from my  link, you see that Walker Scientific  was division  of  Spencer Turbine, has relocated from Worcester, Massachusetts
to Windsor, Connecticut production facility .
http://www.walkermagnet.com/ (http://www.walkermagnet.com/)
Range of  voltage is ~1000VDC


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 01:31:37 PM
 early  year 2000 product of Walker Scientific explaining how to build the fixture to print magnets
2.This product did have series of videos  removed from YouTube in end of 2015
3.We may assume but we  do not know that  Walker Scientific Magnetic Division moved from MA to CT
but section that was manufacturing  my magnetizers  was  closed.
The technique  was based on fixtures connected to my magnetizers allowing to print magnets


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 02:06:59 PM
My conclusion is that 
Alabama  Polymagnet Coorelated  Magnetics
might be just licensee of the machine  from  company  with name: Coorelated Magnetics   but not original patent owners?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161220105804/http://www.crr-llc.com/correlated-magnetics/


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 02:21:00 PM
Update:
From that technology  Long distance RF ID was  created in 2004.
https://web.archive.org/web/20161109202550/http://www.crr-llc.com/tag/
Quote
In 2004, Larry was challenged with developing a tag system to be used for identifying assets,
where the tag could not transmit a signal yet had to convey asset identifying information over relatively long distances. 

After some research, Larry settled on developing a system based upon modulating reflector (MR) tags, which do not transmit signals but instead vary their radar cross-sections in accordance
with time-varying codes thereby enabling interrogating radar having a priori knowledge of the codes to receive information from the MR tags.  As part of the development,
Larry made substantial improvements to previous MR tag systems including incorporating the antennas of the MR tags into retro reflectors to increase the signal-to-noise (SNR)
of the MR tags and to enable the MR tags to be read from multiple interrogation angles. 
Larry filed a provisional patent application for using retro reflectors with MR tags in August of 2004.   
When CRR was founded in December 2006, Larry assigned the pending MR tag technology patent application
to CRR.  CRR successfully prosecuted the patent application resulting in U.S. patent 7,479,884 (https://web.archive.org/web/20161109202550/http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7479884.PN.&OS=PN/7479884&RS=PN/7479884).  In 2008,
Larry conceived of another improvement to his MR tag system that involved embedding the retro reflectors into a
dielectric material in order to further increase interrogation distance.  CRR filed a continuation-in-part patent
application in October 2008, which resulted in issued U.S. patents 8,395,484 (https://web.archive.org/web/20161109202550/http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8,395,484.PN.&OS=PN/8,395,484&RS=PN/8,395,484) and 8,730,014 (https://web.archive.org/web/20161109202550/http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=8730014.PN.&OS=PN/8730014&RS=PN/8730014). 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 02, 2019, 03:02:26 PM
http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/making-poly-magnets-cmr/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E

http://cr-res.com/correlated-magnetics

this is not the printer patent but it shows a similar principle   https://patents.google.com/patent/US8179219


https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on April 02, 2019, 03:42:50 PM
http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/making-poly-magnets-cmr/ (http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/making-poly-magnets-cmr/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E)

http://cr-res.com/correlated-magnetics (http://cr-res.com/correlated-magnetics)

this is not the printer patent but it shows a similar principle   https://patents.google.com/patent/US8179219 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8179219)


https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919)
Hi,
I thought i will never get to see Magnetic bubbles within Magnets after seeing video of Thomas Bearden years ago.Those type mentioned behave like a flip-flop or in another words return to the same spot.It takes little energy to move those bubbles.

But i am not sure if these magnetic bubbles shown in your link is static or able to move freely(Flip-Flop).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 03:51:57 PM
Thank you my friend r2fpl
It looks like rwg42985 guy  (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLuDKTNDFfat7iO7KGE7fQA)is an example that everyone of you can learn magnetics
I know this face from another  YouTube channel


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 04:04:49 PM
https://youtu.be/KP2G4fE0ssI?t=400 (https://youtu.be/KP2G4fE0ssI?t=416)
In this video you see winder that can lay down wire with space. Ideal for capacitive reactance of L.
magpwr thank you for your help with links

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 05:34:09 PM
Quote
Quote from: r2fpl on Today at 03:02:26 PM (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg533243/#msg533243)http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/making-poly-magnets-cmr/ (http://rwgresearch.com/open-projects/making-poly-magnets-cmr/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWZc8UUs5E)

http://cr-res.com/correlated-magnetics (http://cr-res.com/correlated-magnetics)

this is not the printer patent but it shows a similar principle   https://patents.google.com/patent/US8179219 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8179219)


https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919)
the last link is excellent - the patent.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 05:50:16 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150137919)
Do you see  any other patents ?
So we can know what they got  what they did not?
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2019, 05:58:25 PM
Some of them  list here but I do not know yet what it is.

Material presented herein may relate to and/or be implemented in conjunction with multilevel correlated magnetic systems and methods for producing a multilevel correlated magnetic system such as described in
U.S. Pat. No. 7,982,568 issued Jul. 19, 2011 which is all incorporated herein by reference in its entirety.
Material presented herein may relate to and/or be implemented in conjunction with energy generation
systems and methods such as described in
U.S. patent application Ser. No. 13/184,543 filed Jul. 17, 2011, which is all incorporated herein by reference in its entirety.
Such systems and methods described in
U.S. Pat. No. 7,681,256 issued Mar. 23, 2010,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,750,781 issued Jul. 6, 2010,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,755,462 issued Jul. 13, 2010,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,812,698 issued Oct. 12, 2010,
U.S. Pat. Nos. 7,817,002, 7,817,003, 7,817,004, 7,817,005, and 7,817,006 issued Oct. 19, 2010,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,821,367 issued Oct. 26, 2010,
U.S. Pat. Nos. 7,823,300 and 7,824,083 issued Nov. 2, 2011,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,834,729 issued Nov. 16, 2011,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,839,247 issued Nov. 23, 2010,
U.S. Pat. Nos. 7,843,295, 7,843,296, and 7,843,297 issued Nov. 30, 2010,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,893,803 issued Feb. 22, 2011,
U.S. Pat. Nos. 7,956,711 and 7,956,712 issued Jun. 7, 2011,
U.S. Pat. Nos. 7,958,575, 7,961,068 and 7,961,069 issued Jun. 14, 2011,
U.S. Pat. No. 7,963,818 issued Jun. 21, 2011, and
U.S. Pat. Nos. 8,015,752 and 8,016,330 issued Sep. 13, 2011 are all incorporated by reference herein in their entirety.
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on April 02, 2019, 08:31:59 PM
I know how to make the fixtures and how to operate the Walker magnetizing equipment.

Here's a commercial example of a motor using sector magnetization. This is an AC-Delco brand automotive radiator fan motor designed to run on 12 VDC. All you magnet motor folks should really think about this DC motor and try to figure out how it actually works. It produces a good amount of torque, yet when unpowered spins freely without cogging.


But to make the kind of magnets used in the IEC motor you don't need sector magnetization. All you need is to stick the strong magnet to a thick piece of mu-metal, and then you too can duplicate the "razor blade" trick shown in the IEC demonstrations.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 02, 2019, 09:14:17 PM
To reply #2460 " patent abandonation" it is to remark that this   application
 is now integrated in https://patents.google.com/patent/US10204727B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10204727B2/en) and active. !
   
      Caution not to abuse their commercial U. S. -market rights  !
Impressive how many improvements as new applications -prioritynumbers- are integrated in this one :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=10204727B2&KC=B2&FT=D# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=US&NR=10204727B2&KC=B2&FT=D#)
Question : why only U.S. patent application and not WO  ?

Edit: have to correct me,
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Larry+w.++Fullerton&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Larry+w.++Fullerton&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
and here the WO but EP Register information : " deemed to be withdrawn"
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130502&CC=WO&NR=2013063273A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20130502&CC=WO&NR=2013063273A1&KC=A1#)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_W._Fullerton     R.I.P.  24.11.2016

About "magnetizer" : walkerscientific,  Walker Magnetic Group

https://web.archive.org/web/20061110112451/http://www.walkerscientific.com/Products/magnetizing_conditioning_index.html (https://web.archive.org/web/20061110112451/http://www.walkerscientific.com/Products/magnetizing_conditioning_index.html)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 03, 2019, 06:11:54 PM
 CMR Demos Its Printed Polarity Magnets
www.youtube.com/watch?v=drD416THU7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drD416THU7Y)

Correlated Magnetics Attach Polymagnet Animation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T26k2iFyNM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T26k2iFyNM)

Latch Polymagnet Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1NTAQBtmhE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1NTAQBtmhE)

Spring Polymagnet Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiAt-x8i90Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiAt-x8i90Y)

Attach Polymagnet Demo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8uAjvfJNHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8uAjvfJNHo)

Polymagnet and ferrofluid display
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny41-gHhUqE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny41-gHhUqE)

http://www.polymagnet.com/about-2/ (http://www.polymagnet.com/about-2/)


==============================================
Printing Your Own Magnets
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/reviews/a10696/this-is-awesome-printing-your-own-magnets-16900288/ (https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/reviews/a10696/this-is-awesome-printing-your-own-magnets-16900288/)

also a video:
A Closer Look At The Mini Magnet Printer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWuVzhTd6Fc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWuVzhTd6Fc)

and the bad news:Larry W. Fullerton
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_W._Fullerton (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_W._Fullerton)

Patents: https://patents.justia.com/inventor/larry-w-fullerton (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/larry-w-fullerton)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 03, 2019, 09:21:30 PM
was made by me, it does not work like an oscillator. and can not work, the direct current is broken.
??? >:(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 03, 2019, 10:34:05 PM
did you  wind coils  of magnetostructive rod  -(points  1 to 5)
for each given material permeability is given.
http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf
go to right page.

Quote
Magnetostriction (cf. electrostriction) is a property of ferromagnetic materials
that causes them to change their shape or dimensions during the process of magnetization.
The variation of materials' magnetization due to the applied magnetic field changes the
magnetostrictive strain until reaching its saturation value, λ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostriction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetostriction)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 03, 2019, 11:17:55 PM
We  are living in a "design"- world : https://newatlas.com/gold-melt-room-temperature/57327/ (https://newatlas.com/gold-melt-room-temperature/57327/)
Fullerton worked with 200.000 Ampere bursts to change " conventional structure".
             sentire( to sense), fuehlen( to feel) power density :

https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390)

2 shoeboxes total ( battery + controler) , but net the generator only 1 shoebox-dimension for xxxxxx KW output.

One cube, 1 cm x 1 cm x 1 cm : 2 KW output, by related cycle process frequency.

It is time to make this " generator" 3d-printable.


1 cm x 1 cm x 1 cm : 2 KW x 24hpeak= 48 KWhp per day

human individual body cooling / heating energy need. : 12 W
MDI Dome,112 sqm : 2400 W heat peak by 400 W electric heat pump ( -20 °C ambient condition )
Electric multimotor-gear car 1 KWh/ 100 Km , 150 Kmpeak velocity( 130 Kmpeak street legality)
Electric intelligent household power need per day : 3 KWh ( /24 : 125 W )

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 04, 2019, 09:47:09 AM
There are only ferrite rods. :'(
But what is (positive dc input)?
 if there is no way for it. is a capacitor in the path? :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 04, 2019, 09:51:12 AM
There are only ferrite rods. :'(
But what is (positive dc input)?
 if there is no way for it. is a capacitor in the path? :)
Can you, kolbacict, define -by eye - in " solar ink dots" the capacitor/condensator ?!  ;)
1 cm x 1 cm x 1 cm compact " solar ink dots" -cube output compared with 2 KW 1 ccm cube  !?
Goldbaum device : " coating" ! Material,physical emf effect !?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 04, 2019, 06:17:24 PM
this circled in red. if it were not there, a cascade with a common base would result.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on April 04, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
was made by me, it does not work like an oscillator. and can not work, the direct current is broken.
 ??? >:(
There are only ferrite rods. :'(
But what is (positive dc input)?
 if there is no way for it. is a capacitor in the path? :)
this circled in red. if it were not there, a cascade with a common base would result.

Hi kolbacict,
I have edited the schematic you uploaded, at least to make the circuit work as a kind of blocking oscillator. 
I agree that the original schematic cannot work: "the direct current (to the emitter) is broken" as you said.
If you attempt to build this modified schematic, and you are not getting any pulse at the output where it is indicated originally, flip the ends of either the feed back coil to the base or the main coil at the collector, ok? (i.e. only the wires of any one of the coils) 

For your information: 
--the positive DC input is the supply voltage input with respect to the ground (which is the negative polarity),
--try to use a variable power supply, starting from a few volts to as high as 12 or 15 V, to find the best operating point for the oscillator, this also depends on your transistor specifications--the indicated output is via a coupling capacitor from the collector of the transistor, use here a capacitor whose capacitive reactance is but a few Ohms at the pulse frequency

I do not know where you can get a "negative magnetorestrictive rod" though... and I do not think its high price (if true) is worth the trouble to purchase such.

Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 05, 2019, 01:12:14 AM
gyulasun I do thank you very much  for your contribution
good work
======================================

I think application is a part of the problem:
https://fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/es310/asw_sys/asw_sys.htm (https://fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/docs/es310/asw_sys/asw_sys.htm)
Figure 17. Bi-static sonar.
Material must be as listed in green color.
the system acts as  mechanical transducer
look at link below and the lower picture marked as figure1 system Block diagram
https://www.ijert.org/research/sonar-fish-detection-and-measurement-system-with-pic16f873-IJERTV4IS060453.pdf (https://www.ijert.org/research/sonar-fish-detection-and-measurement-system-with-pic16f873-IJERTV4IS060453.pdf)

So the unfortunate was that  book http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf (http://www.free-energy-info.com/Smith.pdf)
was trying to refer to something that was  wrongly  explained.
but the idea is quite fascinating.
If you compare Tx configuration  from the lower picture and Rx configuration, it looks like both  use transducer .
and Smith assumption is that process of receiving is just reverse action  .

Note: I should  make schematic more easy to understand
but let it stay this way for now.
All that is important is to make Base able to open  emitter/collector junction  at first.
Than you can chose what you want to send  between collector and emitter.
And for how long. There is no output in the schematic.
So you can exclude this part.
The amplification can be done from the same + impulse.
but if you want to have train  of impulses send than you can use terminal marked output as external impulse delivery.
Would that be as long as  saturation of the capacitor?
-or you want to  cut  power to Base before that.
Wesley
literature: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaHD7665NeM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaHD7665NeM)
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 05, 2019, 03:03:16 AM
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 05, 2019, 04:31:53 AM
Wesley perhaps I am a bot off topic now but a very solid RF guy turned me onto this VNA, looks interesting have to find out more such as is tracking gen limited like in the Chinese box.

https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf-dx

Looks as though the coupler is inside the unit similar to many antenna analyzers, I do not know the downside of this config.

I don't participate on these forums much but have watched presentations and I highly respect the stuff Tinselkoala presents, thank you for participating in Wesleys tech circus!

Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 05, 2019, 08:28:31 AM
$1300 I think,  they have a single port unit for about $500.   The frequency response looks good but so did the Siglent until one gets to the lowside of the tracking gen which did not match lowside of the spectrum analyzer.  Not o mention the crazy software pricing.

Still looking for a you tube or video of performance.  Likely CPU-Ram related if code is not bloated DLL files that choke the puter.

The pci card unit you mentioned did not go low enough and the HP Vxi card unit that does go low enough

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-89640A-VXI-Based-2-7-GHz-RF-Vector-Signal-Analyzer-PRICE-DROP/232488518625?hash=item36216543e1:g:PBkAAOSwo-RZuuSv

https://www.keysight.com/us/en/software/application-sw/89600-vsa-software.html#Bundles

 the software is very costly and may not have the scattering or smith charting.  I cant find the software free from Keysite except the 30day trial  Maybe I should sell the HP 89411 I got working and get the little computer based one, lower S/N ratio but more functionality.  Although that HP can go super low so may be worth hanging onto even without the S parameters.

Most of the cheap puter ones do not work below a few hundred MHz so I think the unit I posted is different in that it is based on a lower freq unit and uses freq multiplication for higher frequencies, this would explain the lower dynamic range on the higher frequencies.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 05, 2019, 02:26:12 PM
It looks like the best deal you can make is buying old used VNA.
Other options:
Software from  Keysight / Agilent is crazy  expensive.

The toughest part is that  we  are dealing with HV.


https://youtu.be/YrRc-xieWjE?t=683 (https://youtu.be/YrRc-xieWjE?t=683)
https://youtu.be/Mn8TLBsR3r0?t=501 (https://youtu.be/Mn8TLBsR3r0?t=501)





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 06, 2019, 02:29:15 AM
I do not use any form of decoupler.
Coupling in measured circuit is critical to make it work.
Devices used to measure must not be in any way a part of this process.

Inverse square law is primary tool to  be able to take measurement   safely to equipment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law)
When possible I  use decade  attenuator.

Short wire 1cm, inside N connector of Spectrum Analyzer not connected to anything
if  HV is involved.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 06, 2019, 04:09:05 AM
Wesley,
 
I meant to isolate the power side from ground and kill common mode noise on the supply side, not decouple the measurement side. 

Nice setup with the divider pads though.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 06, 2019, 10:55:36 AM
but I can’t do anything. I wanted to get it. There is a strong desire.
But not yet. :'(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on April 06, 2019, 11:32:59 AM
stivep with all those sofiticated instruments what you have not figure out how
make a free energy machine..look just send me over an oscilloscope spectrum analyzer and a swr meter
and i will put you all on a platter the kapadnaze free energy machine..easy.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on April 06, 2019, 02:46:12 PM
STIVEP I WAS JUST JOKING. I AM SEYCHELLOIS, THAT IS MY ANCESTORS ARE FRENCH
BORN ON PRASLIN ISLAND SEYCHELLES INDIAN OCEAN. I DID MY ELECTRONICS TRAINING IN AUSTRALIA.
I WORKED THERE AS AN ELECTRONIC ENGINEER AS AN RF TECHNICIAN WITH MOTOROLA
COMMUNICATION.. SO IT WAS IN THE ERA WHEN TWO WAY RADIOS WAS KING. I SAW THE
ADVENT OF COMPUTER FROM CARD TO COMMODORE 64K AND WINDOWS 96 AND THERE IS
MY WHOLE PLUS MORE..I WAS JUST JOSHING..I LIVE ON PRASLIN ISLAND AND I JUST WENT
FISHING ON MY KAYAK TO CATCH LUNCH AND DINNER.. PEACE LOVE AND ENJOY THE PRIVILEGE
OF EXISTENCE. 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 06, 2019, 02:59:15 PM
seychelles I'm impressed .
https://vimeo.com/96710893
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 06, 2019, 03:44:37 PM
The problem is that no one knows what is the basis of Kapanadze's operation. All this is speculation. We can reject a lot but also leave a lot. The variety of devices and the way of working is very diverse but we are looking for a common part. Kapanadze in each version shows unnecessary tiles and probably everyone has understood this for a long time. If it does everything we see it can be an invalid or just a fragment without much meaning for understanding.
Time is all theories and one thing that he said is that it is a resonance current. Behind this there is a lot of possibilities, and without additional information about the source, we will not do anything.
I want to point out that a lot can indicate something that is in the way electron tubes work. There are a few options here too, and Steven Mark says that this is fundamental to his device and wonders why nobody did it.
He mentions this in his correspondence before he fell silent.
Everyone is looking for a magnetic induction, and they forgot why the current is flowing! that's what S.Mark was talking about.
Why is Kapanadze all the wires that go in the middle of the coil? this can be an element of the device's operation.
We do not generate a magnetic field! so what are we doing ...?!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 06, 2019, 05:40:25 PM
Contrary, I think that magnetic field is important here and I saw some russian videos indicating large magnetic field around the devices. In fact I'm quite sure the ratio of input energy to the magnetic field intensity (pulsed) is directly related to the overunity factor of device.
Tesla noted his devices behaved like electrostatic machines the more sharp gradient he used. Well, to me electrostatic effects may be produced by abruptly changing magnetic fields.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 06, 2019, 06:55:15 PM
Wesley,

You visited T.K. so had time to talk to him one on one.   He released a video of a machine of some type and I have not seen enough detail to make an assessment of what he is doing.

In your opinion, does the electrical device have roots in the mechanical one?

How do you think he came up with his discovery of one or the other, did he mention this area of thought?

I always wondered if he was just playing with two Tesla coils to see if he could send power, or if it was something else.

Thanks,
Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 06, 2019, 07:18:32 PM
Contrary, I think that magnetic field is important here and I saw some russian videos indicating large magnetic field around the devices. In fact I'm quite sure the ratio of input energy to the magnetic field intensity (pulsed) is directly related to the overunity factor of device.
Tesla noted his devices behaved like electrostatic machines the more sharp gradient he used. Well, to me electrostatic effects may be produced by abruptly changing magnetic fields.


I'm not saying that there is no magnetic field. I say that it is not created in a traditional way. It can be created in a different way. This is really a different look at the same. Nobody does this like Steven Mark, and it is unbelievable that all experiments start the same and end for most of us. I'm not saying that Steven Mark and Kapanadze are the same device but that you can do a different magnetic field that we create by the speed of the wave and not by the power!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 06, 2019, 08:11:13 PM
That is not true.
Base for knowledge is ability  to repeat and multiply.
Akula, Ruslan   Vasums, Sr193,



Nobody confirmed it after them! and this is the reason why I think that we still do not know.
It seems that all these devices work on a similar principle, but we also do not know if this is the case.
There is no information between them how it works. We only have pictures and stories and some schemes. This is not enough as you can see.
I know a lot about them mainly from the Internet and my experiences and that's why I have more and more to say.
Can we say that all work on the same principle? NO; because we do not know that.

Akula - his scheme of the eternal flashlight had a battery in the capacitor, this is fact.
Ruslan - it's hard to say what is true and what is not. There are people harmed by him.
Vasmus - I do not know anything for the fact that he works.
Sr193 - there is conflicting information, even who it is? is it a name/nick Akula or Fabrice Adrian or "Adrian Guska" or someone else. His device and description of operation is identical to that of Kapanadze, he says.

All this knowledge comes from the Internet; films; text and diagrams.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 06, 2019, 08:15:29 PM
//Nobody confirmed it after them!//
You are absolutely right  form your perspective.
But  from their perspective you are wrong just because they know what you do  not know.
 
Your perspective may change.
And it is up to them to change it in the matter of a minute.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 06, 2019, 10:21:56 PM
stiveip
I wrote "electrostatic effects" not electrostatic forces.
It's apparent that Tesla devices act on ions and charges around, that effects probably first discovered by Tesla in 1890- 1891 seems to me the key element Tesla used later in every part actively.
Read this http://amasci.com/tesla/tesecr1.html

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 06, 2019, 10:28:56 PM
Absolutely marvelous!
Quote
"My bet is on the above: a single breakthrough now lost.  Tesla invented Fire (well, Fire-II.)  Also the Wheel.  And the laser, the transistor, all of them wrapped up in a single invention.  And then to avoid being chained to a peak and having his liver daily torn out by eagles, he kept it to himself. Tesla's behavior has all the earmarks"

or did he the opposite ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 06, 2019, 10:58:53 PM
I know that we can talk about it indefinitely and it is empty talk. After reading Steven Mark's extensive abstracts that have broadened my knowledge, I have greater respect for a different view of the same. It is true that we can not see simple solutions as people of a certain age. You are limited by our knowledge and searching for patterns that we know.
This is the key and the lock depends on what you choose.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 07, 2019, 03:13:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tEd-qh6dQ
Some interesting play with Avramenko

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 07, 2019, 08:06:43 PM
Think about Dr.Nikola Tesla without him :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCharles_P._Steinmetz (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCharles_P._Steinmetz)
When their cooperation broke what happend with Dr.Tesla and what with "Prometeus/Proteus"  ?
By their life and the industrial evolution "after" !?
mkjekyll and : " No ! ' Clearly not only by Tesla-Steinmetz our net- on/ off grid technology is based , hundreds up to thousand several other genious people improved the ancient poor efficiency and lower machine work life andpower-density !                         
                                 "The Hall of Fame " ( and honor) of inter-/ national EE
                                                "Greatness"- comparison ! ? By eye or ' oeuvre'?
https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/661988/view/einstein-and-steinmetz-historical-image (https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/661988/view/einstein-and-steinmetz-historical-image)
http://s3.amazonaws.com/dsg.files.app.content.prod/gereports/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/10165119/121442-Steinmetz-and-Einstein-uncropped1.jpg (http://s3.amazonaws.com/dsg.files.app.content.prod/gereports/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/10165119/121442-Steinmetz-and-Einstein-uncropped1.jpg)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 07, 2019, 11:27:11 PM
gift from Wesley:
One of the forum guys was given AC/DC  power supply from  0 to 50kV to experiment with Viziv tech/ Kapanadze/Surface wave/etc.
Spectrum analyzer
set  of brand new surgery lamps
-at no charge.
The power supply could be used also for  electron  beam acceleration.
It is AC/ DC  mechanically regulated to the single V.


So:
- if one would put 50kV in primary of Tesla at ratio 100   than you'll get 5 000 000V
- if one would put 50kV in primary of Tesla at ratio 1000 than you'll get 50 000 000V
here are some pictures :

Wesley
Legal Note: Never play with HV. Never Touch it. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 07, 2019, 11:29:17 PM
more of it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 08, 2019, 02:16:05 AM
lanca,

Yes you are mostly correct except I do not agree that Tesla was handicapped intellectually simply because he did not leave notes of calculus and transforms all over. Much of his work went up in flames and much was performed in his head and not written.  His patents are written well enough to protect but minimal enough to obfuscate. 
Machines built by his company are still running in small parts of the grid.
Proteus job was to define Tesla's work in expressions of math and by doing so is closest to the grandfather of the EE
 I suppose you and I differ on opinions of the Man as I think he was quite brilliant, in this we shall agree to disagree. Building logic gates before 1910 but also a man of his time so some things he said can be seen with 20-20 vision backwards as questionable.  However these instances do not detract from all he built and left us, and I am sure there is much more to his work than you or I have been allowed to see.
Maybe in Germany his work was not eliminated from the history books, here it was for sure until somewhat recently.

But of course Laplace is important for all RF analysis, and Leigh Page for going outside the neighborhood.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 08, 2019, 01:04:46 PM
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=abstract-retrieval&COUNTRY=PT&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=104492&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=pt&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=abstract-retrieval&COUNTRY=PT&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=104492&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=pt&TRGLANG=en)
mkjekyll,do you know an easy way to get " ultra- low" friction bearing ?
When the SKF/NSK conventional bearing by 3000 RPM e-motor revolutions guarants 20000 hours lifetime,this above rotor device with 18000 RPM would by 8766 hours/year need a fast bearing change !

Linear calculation : 6000 RPM = 10000 h 12000 RPM = 5000 h 18000 RPM = 3333 h
2 billions bearing rotations ( under torque load) seems much , by divison 2 billions/18000 RPM ~ 1850 h life
All 3 months bearing change makes RF converting machines relatively expensive. !
                                                                 √18000 (RPM)~ 134 (RPM)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19771103&CC=DE&NR=2617553A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19771103&CC=DE&NR=2617553A1&KC=A1#)
Are similar devices industrial known and available  ?"Citing documents : Rolls Royce ( turbines)  and Schaeffler( FAG Kugelfischer) "

I am thinking in the " fractional MW" range 1-10 KW,for high KWs the solution can be :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_bearing (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_bearing)

What was Teslas Turbine bearing in use  ? Lifetime. ? e-storage flywheels ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 08, 2019, 06:54:07 PM
lanca,
I do not have time to read the link you sent right now but for lets say the bearings in a Porsche Turbocharger are ceramic to withstand high RPM and temperature or fluid bearings.

Depending on load radial or axial, some use combination of bearings.

Like you said magnetic is a good choice but I am not aware of load capability on those.   The tried and true are hydrostatic fluid bearings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_bearing

I will get back to your links later, thanks
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 09, 2019, 07:53:18 AM
lanca,

 Only one page came from that patent app when I clicked to translate to PDF so I could not grasp the gist of the concept.

As far as what kind of bearing on the TT back in Tesla's time he used I have no idea but can look into it.  He used special nozzles from some manufacturer so assuming he found the best source at the time.  There was something about the materials not being good enough at the time such as warping, but one never knows if this is part of the disinformation as with much to do with the boundary layer turbine design he came up with has been propagated.  I am not sure the turbine ran on what most people think of being steam but may have been designed to run on LOx since Tesla really liked the Linde system.  This would be a good way to go because all friction generated heat could be used as fuel as long as the expansion could continue without freezing things and if it was designed as such the bearing would likely have been air/gas bearings.  But of course I could be completely wrong on the LOx angle.  The particle beam was designed to run on air pressure to create a vacuum to allow for a vacuum tube that could fire nano projectiles out the open end and retain a vacuum on the cathode end, so he did consider using air for things like this and his oscillator too.

With these cool new multi-pole magnets Wesley brought up seems like magnetic bearings are mega-market potential.  If the race can float equidistant from the shaft with enough force to prevent touching and galling the surface and also center itself axially then this would be huge!

I seem to recall having a hard drive that used the multipolar magnets on a solid ring, so the technology is not so new, but perhaps this CNC magnetizing probe is the latest breakthrough.

Bearings, probably why the educational info evaporated.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2019, 11:35:11 AM
VIZIV - if they want to transmit energy to the whole world, where do they want to take it? there is no power plant of that power there?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
mkjekyll, thanks for your inside thinking !
But the "bearing" remains as friction and wear problem ( or is it not ?) !
About magnetic devices ,research sponsored by Army :
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/herbert-a-leupold (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/herbert-a-leupold)

We have output force improving devices and methods and input energy saving techniques, the barrier is in the transmission and for motors and generator the bearings.
Instead rotative devices using static- no mechanical parts transformer can be a partial solution.But here the physical movement as revolution/ rotation has to become transformed in "digital rotations" ,the pulses are here arcs/spikes,coils life shortening. EDM like.

The next question : charge/ load coverage ratio controle ,especially during voltage/ current inrush peaks .
All this points are by " high costs solution" resolved, the use from these methods in low-cost manner and globalproliferation and DIY- maintenance( no service costs)simplicity is the work, included local production and material re- furbishing/- cycling.
No waste !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2019, 02:20:24 PM
Moment. They say that only from one place in Texas will they distribute waves all over the world. Do you want to say that there will be other stations of this type where there are, for example, power plants in every country? Is it that every country will have to generate energy and send it to them and will they distribute it? I know that there may be any scenario, but this answer is needed to understand where they want to have this energy.

This is so frightening but no more than the lack of money in the wallet and only virtually.

So we should put even more pressure on it to have it for ourselves and not be on the belt.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2019, 02:38:30 PM
Wesley,  I do not think that !
For the energetic sector electricity has 30% use quote actually, petroleum based products are in commercial worth several times higher.
The prohibition from "plastics" out from fossil ( a/ biotic ?) oil/ natural gas would sooner change the rules of trade !
Also in future the CO2- certificate price for green house gas emission will make pollution more expensive.

VIZIV has to work and compete against 1,5/2 US$ cents/KWh global movable electricity generating plants.

No country and no organisation like the OPEC will anymore decide the price-max. ! Liberation !
                           price floating = less manipulated investment return warranty
                                                         with no return and total lost risk

I think you are wrong. They have long ago established it a long time ago. See that confernation was with the Arabs.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 09, 2019, 03:08:44 PM
Wesley,  I am African  !

I remarked in the last time new studies results :
human growth- peak  in quality ( not peak in quantity) reached by and true woman education and emancipation by law ! ( counter- act : IslamicEstate : re- slavery of the womans; many european females went there )

In China it is now allowed to have more than one child : the  most one child parents there do not want more !In Europe the one child family in intelligent households standart.
                                    Psychological saturation !

                                   
    You know the Malthus- number apocalypse : 200 billions humans , but this will never become reality !

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 09, 2019, 03:32:07 PM
That's how I understand it, but I do not understand where Kapanadze's energy comes from, if you first have to deliver it, because VIZIV has to do it.

http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=CPG+Technologies&FIELD1=AANM&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=PG01
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 09, 2019, 03:42:20 PM
Kapanadze is seen as  Rx-receiver only.
Energy fluctuation  in Schumann waveguide  is manifested by Schumann resonances frequencies.
That alone must impact waveguide boundaries( walls)
(Slotted Line - is  a must to understand for  sensing such fluctuation in waveguide.)
Naturally present in interface Surface Wave in Schumann waveguide is exactly the same as that of Viziv. (TEM in TM mode)
The interface is earth/air " 2D space"
The only difference to  Viziv is that  this energy is receive it only.
Wesley 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on April 09, 2019, 11:32:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tEd-qh6dQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tEd-qh6dQ)
Some interesting play with Avramenko

Wesley

Interesting play....emphasis is on "play"

Systemtic measurement-error : He measured open-loop voltage and not Voltage under load ( inner resistance
of intrument is the load while measureing current )

So the calculation of power is wrong.

Additional error might be bandwidth of instrument.

Regards
Mike
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 10, 2019, 01:24:39 PM
#2534 mkjekyll :
when                 1 coil x     1000000 coil turns x 1 Ampere-turn ~ revolution = 1 Mio. A

or.                      1 coil x        1 coil turn x 1000000 Ampere-turns=                      1 Mio. A
so are the same           
                           1 coil x    1000 coil turns x 1000 Ampere-turns=                       1 Mio.A

                     (    dividing in 10 , 100 , ..coils x coil turns x Ampere-turns )

The Kunel- bearing device , a bearing in a bearing, so 360.000 mechanical  revolutions divides in 600x600 mechanical "revolution each "-stages would mean less friction and less wear ! Available ?

Kunel- amplifier device, factor 10: 10 Ampere- coils
More or less "Mass" : coil mass in Kg or more or less "Speed- velocity" in pulsed  Hz cycles
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 10, 2019, 05:10:08 PM
AlienGrey,many "Puzzle"-parts will change the future :

https://www.google.com/search?q=24%2F7+power+transmission+drone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b (https://www.google.com/search?q=24%2F7+power+transmission+drone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b)
+ flying "Viziv"- Transceiver
+ 24/7 flying solar-/ wind- energy-glider f. e.  http://airhes.com/ 

But this is only for on-grid consumer,industrial and private, important.
Off-grid net-architecture is with less over-head costs, 50% cheaper.

Sincerely
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 10, 2019, 05:17:54 PM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172606/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172606/image//)
serious devices, no doubt. And this is what we have. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 10, 2019, 06:25:17 PM
lanca,

This Kunel coil sounds fascinating along with the iterated bearing concept, can you provide some links or PDF's with some in depth info? I think I recall something from the Kelly free energy book about Kunel but likely your data would be more stable.  There The future will likely be some type of hybrid bearing with the magnetic part and rollers or balls when load overcomes the magnets repulsion.

here is a quick quote concerning bearings and mag repulsion motors 
http://wheelerfluidfilmbearings.com/advantages-of-babbitt-bearings-and-sound-babbitt-foundry-practices/   
https://www.ijedr.org/papers/IJEDR1701064.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 11, 2019, 08:20:30 AM
lanca,

with the multiple series  coils if inductance the same they can still be different phase, use RF trick to get dBi antenna gain then PFC.  This is reason TK uses motor disconnected, it is running like rotary condense correcting PF.

Yes the ratio multiplier trick if phased properly should work, good idea, give it a test!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 11, 2019, 11:56:56 AM
https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1501174A1/fr (https://patents.google.com/patent/EP1501174A1/fr)
It is not the device for itself which makes power management "complicated", it is the charge/ load relation or ratio.
In Europe the net-grid consumer frequency 50 Hz( a 2 signals) =

                                                            3000 RPM or 50 RPS =
                                                        1 Rev/Hz, 1 Rev/2 signals

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20121011&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2012256422A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20121011&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

       [0092] 1 W.           /Revolution per minute   
       [0093]  0,25 W.    / Revolution per minute
       [0094]  0,01 W.     /Revolution per minute


                     hertzian cycle amplitude and frequency and duty cycle modulation       

                       in rotative - motive or generic - devices or static= non moving parts device !
http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys213/lectures/amp/amp_long.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arestov.de%2Findex.php%2Fde%2Felektromotoren%2Fwindenergie)

                                                 before : singular /after : plural ( double, triple,....) coils

                                                 "Example : a wind turbine with nominal 400 W .... "

                                                                                   ? Watt / RPM

                                                  before :               at 20 m/ sec                  70 W
                                                  after.   :           at 10-12m/ sec.               320 W
                                      Less input pressure/ force/ energy but more output energy/power

               
                                        20 m/sec = 72 Km/ h wind velocity : 70 W output  :P from rated 400 W
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 11, 2019, 06:19:45 PM
lanca,
Thanks,

I will have a look when I have more time but it looks very interesting, the French patent app.

We could also do much better just driving high impedance windings for very high voltage and stepping it down loose coupled to overcome a lot of the drag associated with the Lenz law.

By the way some might find interesting the magnetic design of the Alexanderson alternato, Don Smith was an interesting character.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 12, 2019, 11:38:39 PM

my new  Electron Microscope
https://youtu.be/64oFAQMCVAA?t=870 (https://youtu.be/64oFAQMCVAA?t=870)
Stability  of  the power supply is 0. 0007% That is much better than required for   electron beam plasma accelerator.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 13, 2019, 12:11:51 AM
Wesley,

I hope I am not going outside the thread with this question.

If one was looking for a very high quality 10-160 meter amateur radio rig for high reliability proper wiring inside, very high sensitivity, low noise, high selectivity and high DDDR what models might you recommend?

I know some rebuilt Kenwood twins from late seventies are considered great, but what else.  I know they are also limited and I am looking for some good DX ability if shit hits fan.  I don't like the sound of some of the cheap SDR I have heard perhaps the expensive ones are much better, however I dislike the lack of fullness to the tone I hear so far.  I don't remember this lack of audio quality with the old analog PLL receivers, but I may have selective amnesia.

Thanks,
Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 13, 2019, 12:30:55 AM
Advice from my friends  to mkjekyll : Try TS 2000   
You can also modify it and open  all  away from  160m to 70cm.
This  in  not Ham   forum so unfortunately  not many of us  will be able to   help you.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 13, 2019, 05:21:59 PM
Thanks Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 13, 2019, 08:52:12 PM
Thanks Wesley
But I can tell you that if it comes to any subject  of rigs, feeding lines, antennas, amplifiers, bands  and its propagation,
SSB,  CW at: A1, A2, A3,
FM, AM I'm probably better  or much better  than most of   the guys  called hams .
I just can not be one of them because is tedious, monotonous, in a  sense.- to little is  taking place in given time period.
But I have friends in this area mostly top notch  but even them I'm able to put in the corner from time to time.
No definitely not  in  DX area but in area of  technicality .

Talking about Swiss quality:Yes it is . I have got
Electron Microscope made in Switzerland  as a special  order.
(with  English/US cooperation.)
I'm having so much fun with LEO 435VP it will take me  around 2 months or so.
Microscope is  made  from 2 modules  and it looks like desk with 2 parts.
Entity disconnected wires to separate two pieces prior to transportation.
Because of security  clearance,the guy who did it is not  authorized  to interact .
It looks like he thought,  he would be delegated to another scientific organization to assembly of it.
So he made some labels  on the wires but not much.


on  the  picture LEO 435VP and total mess in  lab #1.jpg
You see marking  "Vacuum jar glass bell"
( This is how it looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoW1yhVpjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoW1yhVpjs)

Wesley
 
 


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 13, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
more of it
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 14, 2019, 12:24:57 PM
Dear  mkjekyll
I have much more than that.
on  the  picture LEO 435VP and total mess in  lab #1.jpg
You see marking  "Vacuum jar glass bell"
( This is how it looks like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoW1yhVpjs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISoW1yhVpjs)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2019, 02:39:44 PM
A Powerful Electricty Generator That Functions Uniquely Using Electromagnetic Phenomena

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2019, 03:46:06 PM
MORE OF IT
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2019, 04:00:34 PM
https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390 (https://contest.techbriefs.com/2016/entries/sustainable-technologies/6390)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8847720.pdf (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8847720.pdf)
Используемый переключатель постоянного тока в переменный имеет максимальную 780 кГц по сравнению со 180 Гц в генераторах тока. Такие высокие частоты индуцирующего тока генерируют чрезвычайно высокую выходную мощность. Он создает высокочастотные циклические магнитные поля внутри и вокруг проводов ряда индукторов, которые соединены в параллельную цепь.
Концентрические силовые линии этого поля распространяются и разрушаются в релятивистском времени, когда они пересекают провода индуктивов, которые также связаны в параллельной цепи. Циклическое напряжение и ток протекают в индуктивности, которая является выходной мощностью генератора.

"в индуктивности, которая является выходной мощностью генератора." niet tochnogo pierievoda - na primier:
"Циклическое напряжение и текущий поток вызваны в призывниках, который является выходной мощностью генератора."
ili na primier:
"Циклические напряжение и ток индуцируется в призывников, который является выходная мощность генератора."
Выработка электроэнергии - очевидное применение. Даже самые крупные генераторы требуют минимальной инфраструктуры и будут иметь низкие эксплуатационные расходы. Они могут быть расположены в или около места потребления, и могут быть связаны, чтобы обеспечить любое количество требуемой мощности, по требованию. Они могут быть закрыты, чтобы запускаться снова, как того требует спрос. Они могут приводить в действие двигательные установки для всех типов наземных транспортных средств, морских судов, самолетов и космических аппаратов

Параллельная схема 'катушек' индуктивности и индуктивности обеспечивает избыточность, что обеспечивает непрерывную генерацию даже в случае повреждения или неисправности некоторых компонентов. Экранирование предотвращает выход магнитных полей.
ОНИ НЕ КАТУШКИ, НО  ЧТО-ЛИБО ПОДОБНОЕ ПАРАЛЛЕЛЬНЫХ ПРОВОДОВ ПРЯМОУГОЛЬНОЙ ФОРМЫ
Единственным внешним источником энергии, необходимым для этих генераторов, является батарея, которая подает ток для начального цикла (циклов) постоянного тока на высокочастотный переключатель постоянного тока в переменный ток в компьютеризированном модуле управления, который затем подает высокочастотный переменный ток. ток на индукторы. Это создает высокочастотные циклические магнитные поля, которые индуцируют напряжение и ток в проводах ряда окружающих индукторов в качестве выхода генератора.

Часть этого тока доступна для нагрузки и может регулироваться так, чтобы можно было подавать любое напряжение, силу тока, количество фаз и частоту. Другая часть индуцированного токового выхода индуктива подается обратно на катушки индуктивности, обеспечивая ток для последующих циклов, и батарея затем удаляется из цепи.

Номинальный генератор, приблизительно объем двух мужских коробок обуви, включая батарею и модуль контроля, может поставлять необычайную продукцию.. Даже работая в низкой частоте 400 герц, вызванное напряжение сети -/-8.4Kva/sec, (который является почасовой оценкой 30.2Mva/hr (40,500Hp)). Для сравнения, электростанции производят от 375 до 758 Mva; турбина ветра производит 2-3 Mva; большой heliostat может произвести 280Mva..

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2019, 12:07:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLt7pvJJfN4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLt7pvJJfN4)
the title of original video is:
Magnetic Field Changing in Time
- Electromagnetic Induction Generating Electrical Energy

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8847720.pdf (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/8847720.pdf)
The  title of  original patent is :
- Electromagnetic induction device for generation of electrical power

suggestion: look  at parallel rings on video
and compare it with parallel  straight wire "coils" from patent

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 17, 2019, 12:38:19 AM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biot%E2%80%93Savart_law


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CACD5jX8fsY (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CACD5jX8fsY)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ2pDlhqPio (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ2pDlhqPio)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJjls7B6_c (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LFJjls7B6_c)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN_ucrThWQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9UN_ucrThWQ)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjTwiRf4kXc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjTwiRf4kXc)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ub4CzL9hMM
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 17, 2019, 02:24:58 AM
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=667647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=667647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en)
              Input 30 W DC.       Output 300 VA( W)  pulsed 20 Hz

       How many "constant Watt" are " pulsed Volt-Ampere" equivalent  ?

   Kanarev ,pulse power calculation :         

                                                      15000 W peak ~ 144 W average ~ 1,4 Watt real  power                                     
                                                      300 V a 50 A.   -   pulse on/ off.   -                ?
                                                      Force amplification of power by modulation
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2019, 04:16:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzbaYUNRjM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzbaYUNRjM)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2019, 04:42:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJJ5YojxHE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeJJ5YojxHE)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 17, 2019, 11:56:19 AM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=WO&NR=2014070629A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=1&date=20140508&DB=&locale=# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=WO&NR=2014070629A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=1&date=20140508&DB=&locale=#)         

https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP13851432&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP13851432&tab=main)   

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=US&NR=8847720B2&KC=B2&FT=D&ND=&date=20140930&DB=&locale=# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=US&NR=8847720B2&KC=B2&FT=D&ND=&date=20140930&DB=&locale=#)

            only as information

and a link : citing documents Lukas Emch
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=WO&NR=2014070629A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=1&date=20140508&DB=&locale= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citedDocuments?CC=WO&NR=2014070629A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=1&date=20140508&DB=&locale=)

one wire + one wire , 1mtr distance to 10 cm distance to 1 cm distance to 1 mm distance in Newton
https://www.nist.gov/si-redefinition/ampere-history
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 18, 2019, 01:17:59 PM
Where are in Physics the maximal and minimal limits !?

                                                     2013 !
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpg.de%2F6769805%2Fnegative_absolute_temperatur (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mpg.de%2F6769805%2Fnegative_absolute_temperatur)

                                                     " negativer  Druck"
                                                   
                                         

                           
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 19, 2019, 03:05:27 PM
Plasma and its  properties focuses attention  of few Russian experimenters

 
We have few  new names popular in Russian FE community.
1. Fizik man (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwama-l19TyG5E-bR3NSmmw)                       a.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vW1II_3uM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-vW1II_3uM)
                                        b.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrYeso7FFZ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrYeso7FFZ4)
correction: first picture refers to  video 1b


2. Vasily Vorobyov (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClpYo8baRT9WcT6IIAwTYyw)               c.  https://youtu.be/t-o7dL3Iq94?t=82 (https://youtu.be/t-o7dL3Iq94?t=82)
                                         d.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhkqtb-N2B0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhkqtb-N2B0)

video # d is replication of чип ( Chip)  experiment/ so is effect taking place in Ruslan  Kalabuhov/so is in Kapanadze

3.the main man in focus is чип (Chip):
in  many  of comments  чип  art [glow=
orange,2,300] is for some reason ./not easily accessible/ protected/by close to him known experimenters [/glow]
look  at translation of comments  below video  (second picture from below
)

Note I didn't list чип here yet.


In contrary :
4.SIRIUS SOTIS ТЕХНИКА is conservative and very much respected in FE.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSZOce0WccuPzbcghA36DlQ/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSZOce0WccuPzbcghA36DlQ/videos)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 21, 2019, 12:55:57 AM
This might give some ideas to a few working on resonant flux switching:


https://www.cettechnology.com/what-is-a-planar-transformer/


https://www.isemagnetics.com/publicaties/detail.php?ID=347
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: The.Truth on April 22, 2019, 05:51:46 AM

I know Chris Sykes. I met him several months ago. Wesley, what was the purpose of your posts about him?

TT!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 22, 2019, 02:42:21 PM
Quote
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172549/image//
Here such device works for me. from the ferrite antenna from the radio.
And it should not work. There is no generation in the simulator.because the gain of the cascade with a common base is less than 1
But in practice it works.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on April 22, 2019, 04:04:07 PM
Hi kolbacict,
It is good the circuit oscillates in practice when built from a correct schematic.  In the circuit simulator, have you tried to flip the wires of coil T1 ? (or T2, it does not matter which of them)  Or what coupling factor did you choose between T1 and T2 (mutual inductance)?
Regarding the common base single transistor stage its voltage gain can be much higher than 1 so basically the simulator should work also.  What is the number of turns for T1 and T2?  Try to increase the number of turns for T2 if it happens to be less than that of T1.

Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 22, 2019, 06:17:15 PM
Similar concept is proposed by guy who is close to hiding  himself "chip"

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 22, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
 Hi.    A factory rod was taken (LW, MW; radio receiver magnetic antenna). contur coil.
As it is not surprising, the generation is available for any connection. (flip)  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2019, 03:00:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yFTWQXY1oI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yFTWQXY1oI)
  18MHz  800V
Russian military tube used  in generator is GU50.
The end of the rod is made from graphite.
The flame is caused by adding  capacitance of human hand holding metal wire. (https://youtu.be/9yFTWQXY1oI?t=315 (https://youtu.be/9yFTWQXY1oI?t=315))
The nature of the flame explained by  narrator is natural presence of Oxygen, Nitrogen transmutating  Graphite.
However  author says that Graphite has nothing to do with nature of the flame and Graphite is only the "victim" of the interaction
Between  O and N,    in presence of HV

Wesley

Note:
no interpretation
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2019, 03:38:37 PM
This post  is related to energy conversion using Terfenol D,   and is not in any way related to my post from above:
http://tdvib.com/terfenol-d/ (http://tdvib.com/terfenol-d/)
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5006676 (https://aip.scitation.org/doi/pdf/10.1063/1.5006676)

Terfenol-D has the largest room temperature magnetostriction (http://www.tdvib.com/magnetostriction/) of any known material. T
Terfenol-D is a solid-state material [glow=violet ,2,300]capable of converting energy from one form to another.[/glow]

Picture from below shows Ted Annis application of Terfenol D

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2019, 09:19:49 PM
Answer to mkjekyll:
http://www.magnets.com.cn/Magnetic-powder/dry-pressing-strontium-ferrite-magnetic-materials.html (http://www.magnets.com.cn/Magnetic-powder/dry-pressing-strontium-ferrite-magnetic-materials.html)

Quote
What is the difference in a magnet that is aligned prior to sintering and one that is not?
No such  thing  as  aligned prior to sintering exists.!!!!
Yes I agree that such term is in use.
Temperature of sintering around 1200C (2192F)must affect magnetization of particles  making the magnet
So when in green stage that magnet is different from the ready to use  one.

for these interested  what sintering is:
process of making (a powdered material) coalesce into a solid or porous mass by heating it (and usually also compressing it) without liquefaction.

The problem  we have here is Curie temperature:In physics and materials science, the Curie temperature
(Tc), or Curie point,
Quote
is the temperature at which certain materials lose their permanent magnetic properties,
to be replaced by induced magnetism.
The Curie temperature is named after Pierre Curie, who showed that magnetism was
lost at a critical temperature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curie_temperature)

Note to  mkjekyll:
Please note  that anisotropic powder is not grown crystals but mechanically powdered crystals in withing particles.
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2019, 10:00:37 PM
Answer to mkjekyll #2:
some videos  from sintering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVyVqtQrjnI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVyVqtQrjnI)   process of heating at temperature below curie temperature

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwOu8Jkjwms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwOu8Jkjwms) this  one is exotic  (  skip it   unless  you  know  what it is)Please note  that magnet wire has  nothing to do with magnet.

https://youtu.be/6hPodO-ZsTY?t=26 (https://youtu.be/6hPodO-ZsTY?t=26)
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sintering+of+magnethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KSDPWw7jU (https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=sintering+of+magnethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-KSDPWw7jU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ22svZFGKc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ22svZFGKc) -
interesting and  educational.
this  is  the green stage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjayUoi8L4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjayUoi8L4) much  more primitive   way   to sinter

this video deserves  your attention( starts from given time)
https://youtu.be/jq8WOUFeCcg?t=138 Curie temperature

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2019, 10:12:21 PM
Science  don't want to touch explanation of Avramienko  fork phenomena.
I don't  have time to  write much
I'm preoccupied  with my Electron Microscope
But for these  who read Russian  here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rqFe0HVdSqCDitYSLFcpFqyy4cC3loMu/view
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 27, 2019, 02:06:26 AM

Assembly of LEO 435VP is going takes me some time.

Some links to EDXRF detector mounted  in   the instrument:
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcTTPffyMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIcTTPffyMw)
EDS Inca Calibration

2. https://youtu.be/SdpXFcf_La0?t=929 (https://youtu.be/SdpXFcf_La0?t=929)
Energy Dispersive X Ray Spectroscopy

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXEP5yONA0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXEP5yONA0)
Introduction to Energy Dispersive X-ray Spectrometry (EDS

I'm in process -of checking connections:
The two HD one in LEO 435VP and one with separate  computer  dedicated to INCA two units:
a.inca mics
b. inca x-stream
Both of them  are being  replaced  with new one.
Yes  I do have shot gun powder residue analysis capability too.
This  is great  for powder  analysis .
Compaction press for the green stage, prior to  sintering is not a problem .
=============================================
 working on  crystalline of the ferrite.
We expect new sample to be send from Riga.



Oxford Instruments ISIS 300 EDX spectrometer operating in variable pressure mode at 10
Pascals with an accelerating voltage of 10 kV and a beam current of 500 picoamps for 1000 frames

http://research.engineering.ucdavis.edu/cnm2/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/04/EDXS-SOP_033017.pdf (http://research.engineering.ucdavis.edu/cnm2/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2017/04/EDXS-SOP_033017.pdf)
Oxford Instruments Energy-Dispersive Spectroscopy (EDS) Operating Manual

https://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/335a812e-088d-4df5-ac0b-6e5ce8357bd7/SEM-EDX-GSR-ASPEX.aspx (https://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/335a812e-088d-4df5-ac0b-6e5ce8357bd7/SEM-EDX-GSR-ASPEX.aspx) - 
Characteristic  Gunshot  Residue Particles.
GSR Casework procedure  manual

http://meteorite.unm.edu/site_media/pdf/SEM_Manual2006.pdf (http://meteorite.unm.edu/site_media/pdf/SEM_Manual2006.pdf)
This is JEOL but it has  manual for Link from ISIS older version

http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/114574/9/ASTM%20paper%20Graphite%20in%20Steel%20DVEdmonds_SubmittedMainDocument_newer%20version.pdf (http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/114574/9/ASTM%20paper%20Graphite%20in%20Steel%20DVEdmonds_SubmittedMainDocument_newer%20version.pdf)
Picture below is an  example of  application.
SEA5120 is university lab grade XRF.
The major advantage  with LEO 435VP is  WDS  technique that is an  addition to traditional EDS
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 27, 2019, 04:27:08 AM
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4082842/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4082842/)
Quote
components of gunshot residue (GSR), in particular, metallic particles originating from the ammunition primer, reveal characteristic properties and so provide themselves a
high value evidence of using a firearm. Only few particles, of total mass no greater than 100 picograms, can be accepted as the evidence relating an individual with a shooting incident.
The fundamental criterion of the identification of metallic gunshot particles is their chemical contents, that is, rarely occurring set of elements: lead, antimony, and
barium as well as their morphology reflecting the kinetics of the processes undergoing during a gunshot, especially rapid cooling of droplets of the molten metals
present in the expanding plum of products of the primer detonation and the propellant combustion.

In our application violent processes in the ferrite  associated with strong  vibration and sound can be analyzed by analysis of its kinetics - in "after facts".
I'm very careful now, watching every step  to properly estimate any possible side effects .


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2019, 01:34:59 AM
 Dr Judy Wood
supported John Hutchison Hutchison effect.
http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/bio/Wood_Bio.html (http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/a/bio/Wood_Bio.html)
Her report was  scrutinized , .
http://www.drjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/ (http://www.drjudywood.com/wp/court-case-qui-tam/)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXB83Heh3_c&list=PLD9157ED196DB53DE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXB83Heh3_c&list=PLD9157ED196DB53DE)
This is  somehow similar to Hutchison  Effect


https://www.damninteresting.com/retired/the-hutchison-effect/ (https://www.damninteresting.com/retired/the-hutchison-effect/)
https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/SmartLINK.htm (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/SmartLINK.htm)

original  samples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=TsKL9n3NDiw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=TsKL9n3NDiw)


Intalek.inc  sends   us  to :

RELATED RESEARCHUS PATENT 512,340 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00512340.PDF), COIL FOR ELECTRO MAGNETS, N. TESLA, January 9, 1894.
US PATENT 593,138 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00593138.PDF), ELECTRICAL TRANSFORMER, N. TESLA, November 2, 1897.
US PATENT 645,576 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00645576.PDF), SYSTEM OF TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY, N. TESLA, March 20, 1900.
US PATENT 649,621 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00649621.PDF), APPARATUS FOR TRANSMISSION OF ELECTRICAL ENERGY, N. TESLA, May 15, 1900.
US PATENT 723,188 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00723188.PDF), METHOD OF SIGNALING, N. TESLA, March 17, 1903.
US PATENT 725,605 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00725605.PDF), SYSTEM OF SIGNALING, N. TESLA, April 14, 1903.
US PATENT 787,412 (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/00787412.PDF), ART OF TRANSMITTING ELECTRICAL ENERGY THROUGH THE NATURAL MEDIUM, N. TESLA, April 18, 1905.
Scalar Wave Technology (https://intalek.com/Index/Projects/SmartLINK/ScalarWaveTechnology-Experimental-Kit2003.pdf), by Konstantin Meyl.
 
Yet another video of intalek.com:
Magnetic Field Generator (free energy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHRBtQ08ro (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHRBtQ08ro)
this  video is  fallowed by  additional  link
http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf (http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/Patents/DE3024814.pdf)
http://www.intalek.com/Papers/Handout3.pdf (http://www.intalek.com/Papers/Handout3.pdf)

Hutchison moved to US from  Canada and   he lives in  small  house.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2019, 02:40:04 PM
Literature:
Difference of isotropic and anisotropic magnet
https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=304367 (https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=304367)
Isotropic Magnet and Anisotropic Magnet
http://www.simotecthailand.co.th/en/knowledge6.html (http://www.simotecthailand.co.th/en/knowledge6.html)
Orientation technology of anisotropic injection magnet
https://www.magnet-sdm.com/2016/09/18/806/ (https://www.magnet-sdm.com/2016/09/18/806/)
https://www.mpcomagnetics.com/product/arc-anisotropic-hard-ferrite-magnet/ (https://www.mpcomagnetics.com/product/arc-anisotropic-hard-ferrite-magnet/)
How Ferrite Magnets are made
https://e-magnetsuk.com/ferrite_magnets/ferrite_magnets_made.aspx (https://e-magnetsuk.com/ferrite_magnets/ferrite_magnets_made.aspx)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_%28magnet%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrite_%28magnet%29)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on April 30, 2019, 06:08:08 PM
Wesley,

Thanks for posting the video link, it is always a great feeling to see a young person who is interested enough to build things rather than buy things.   This man has amazing talent that he did not come by in school.  Our public schools now have mostly removed music and science, unless one goes to a charter school.

It is a shame more parents don't encourage this kind of adventure as obviously this man was encouraged.

I love the varispeed on that lathe, fantastic.

Here is a great video of the Audi plant building electric motors    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zttC2x9nMEw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on May 02, 2019, 05:51:50 AM
JUST PASSING BY.
http://www.patentsencyclopedia.com/imgfull/20150102675_01
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 02, 2019, 02:44:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MXOFqDWvgA&feature=youtu.be
Presentation of resonance based  electrical  motor
from 3....5kw  originally it is now 10kW
Based on inventor claim.

Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 02, 2019, 04:27:10 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fadgex.ru%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fadgex.ru%2F)

They, adgex.ru,have several solutions " in the pipe" ....
Energybrick : 25.000 charge cycles ,super fast charging ,......
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 05, 2019, 07:36:24 PM
http://www.ntpo.com/izobretenija/alternativnaya-energetika/netradicionnye-istochniki-jenergii/7479-rezonansnyj-generator-ank (http://www.ntpo.com/izobretenija/alternativnaya-energetika/netradicionnye-istochniki-jenergii/7479-rezonansnyj-generator-ank)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_J_bcLB2o&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg_J_bcLB2o&feature=youtu.be)

When Load is 7.2 Ohm  motor is turning slower than  when  output is shorted.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 05, 2019, 07:51:50 PM
Способ получения статического электричества
Method of creating static  electricity
Patent:
http://www.ntpo.com/izobreteniya-rossiyskoy-federacii/elektroenergetika/alternativnye-istochniki-energii/vetroelektrostancii/37929-sposob-polucheniya-staticheskogo-elektrichestva.html (http://www.ntpo.com/izobreteniya-rossiyskoy-federacii/elektroenergetika/alternativnye-istochniki-energii/vetroelektrostancii/37929-sposob-polucheniya-staticheskogo-elektrichestva.html)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 08, 2019, 04:10:44 PM

"BELL SHAPE" like in Lithuania  Experiment measured by Linas

https://yandex.ua/images/search?pos=27&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvia-midgard.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2011-03%2F1301119610_fig-10-10.jpg&text=%D0%93%D0%A1%D0%A5%D0%95%D0%9C%D0%AB%20%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%20%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0&rpt=simage&source=related-duck&rlt_url=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-eXZR-Vwafxk%2FXAOXJth0M8I%2FAAAAAAAA_Ls%2FnpVXGcCOROM61im5zwq48_wQsSzlO0P4wCLcBGAs%2Fs1600%2FStanley%252BMeyer%252BHHo%252BHydrogen%252Bsteam%252Bresonator%252Bschematic.png&ogl_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvia-midgard.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2011-03%2F1301119610_fig-10-10.jpg (https://yandex.ua/images/search?pos=27&img_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvia-midgard.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2011-03%2F1301119610_fig-10-10.jpg&text=%D0%93%D0%A1%D0%A5%D0%95%D0%9C%D0%AB%20%D0%B3%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%20%D0%9C%D0%B5%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0&rpt=simage&source=related-duck&rlt_url=https%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-eXZR-Vwafxk%2FXAOXJth0M8I%2FAAAAAAAA_Ls%2FnpVXGcCOROM61im5zwq48_wQsSzlO0P4wCLcBGAs%2Fs1600%2FStanley%252BMeyer%252BHHo%252BHydrogen%252Bsteam%252Bresonator%252Bschematic.png&ogl_url=https%3A%2F%2Fvia-midgard.com%2Fuploads%2Fposts%2F2011-03%2F1301119610_fig-10-10.jpg)


http://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Build%20Your%20Own%20Stanley%20Meyer%20Water%20Fuel%20Cell%202015%20research%20pack/pics/circuits%20and%20schematics/ (http://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Build%20Your%20Own%20Stanley%20Meyer%20Water%20Fuel%20Cell%202015%20research%20pack/pics/circuits%20and%20schematics/)
.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 08, 2019, 05:24:20 PM
https://iwanthho.wordpress.com/
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 08, 2019, 06:38:43 PM
So bell waveform from  sparkgap  as  well as from  spark train generator from  gas furnace,  and Tariel Kapanadze   has  form of
-the infinitely  growing    signal.

But Stanley Meyer waveform shows the same behavior

We assume that his  invention was real so is Tariel Kapanadze.
And now you have  similarity between the two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBsaBWt84Q&t=39s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBsaBWt84Q&t=39s)
This video shows spark gap waveform made  by Russian  I spoke to few minutes ago.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 08, 2019, 07:04:07 PM
This is my old experience with an electrostatic field.
Look at the LED minus when the coil is disconnected.
The meaning lasts longer than the power.
Unfortunately, I do not have an oscilloscope measurement but it's easy to repeat it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz1M-I_F6SU
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on May 08, 2019, 08:33:15 PM
Hi Wesley,

This is the patent application in which Figure 10 you searched for is included:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=9207861A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=19920514# 

Found and deduced from this url link's pictures:
http://the-eye.eu/public/concen.org/Build%20Your%20Own%20Stanley%20Meyer%20Water%20Fuel%20Cell%202015%20research%20pack/pics/circuits%20and%20schematics/ 

Gyula 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tomd on May 10, 2019, 12:05:47 PM
In the 1994 Don Smith video (11 minute mark) Don talks about the trumpet waveform where he refers to the book "Vacuum Tubes by Karl Rudolph Strangenberg. Pgs. 578 - 579". In his case the trumpet waveform is a result of the grounding shunt (electron source) of L2.
Quote "This whole device is like a pump"
Also 1996 video at the 1:02 mark.

Here's what Don says about resonate induction: Resnate induction transfer disturbs a large number of adjacent electrons which were not a part of the original source. The pulsating (pumping effect) then incorporates the newly available extra electrons into the ongoing energy generation source system. A near unity energy system of resonate air core coils and the extra acquired electron energy source constitutes an overunity system.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 10, 2019, 03:59:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_wCy2OzWk
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 10, 2019, 06:28:44 PM
Tiger( the guy who was hired by 
Stefanov to examine Akula device):

 
Current of HV HF signal is send
Capacitor is at that moment in magnetic field of  Low Frequency signal.
That at certain point   causes mechanical  vibration of dielectric of capacitor.
that movement inside of plates( aluminum foil)  of capacitor   creates additional charge.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 10, 2019, 11:21:59 PM
Note: for these who don't understand  the importance of  it :If no-interupting  or overloading  factor exist  the bell  waveform would be infinitely growing.It looks like Stanley Meyer  water fuel cell patentBut "I didn't find exactly that  drawing.


Klystron
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 10, 2019, 11:28:45 PM
links
Quote
1.Stanley Meyer ,book , patents, schematics, etc.
                           http://www.globalkast.com/documentation.htm (http://www.globalkast.com/documentation.htm)
1.a. Book: The Birth of New Technology (pdf)
                           http://www.globalkast.com/docs/S.Meyer_The_Birth_of_New_Technology.pdf (http://www.globalkast.com/docs/S.Meyer_The_Birth_of_New_Technology.pdf)

1.b. p114  Voltage intensifier circuit


 
      p138 Dynamic voltage system
       p201 Opposite voltage charging effect

2. Stephen Meyer-MLS-Hydroxyl Filling Station
                             http://www.globalkast.com/docs/stephen_meyer_USPatent-20050246059.pdf (http://www.globalkast.com/docs/stephen_meyer_USPatent-20050246059.pdf)

3. Andrija Puharich-Method & Apparatus For Splitting Water Molecules
                               http://www.globalkast.com/docs/Andrija%20Puharich%20-%20US4394230.pdf (http://www.globalkast.com/docs/Andrija%20Puharich%20-%20US4394230.pdf)

4. JLN Labs - Water Fuel Cell ( WFC ) Researches
                      http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/wfc/index.htm)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 10, 2019, 11:52:06 PM
So bell waveform from  sparkgap  as  well as from  spark train generator from  gas furnace,  and Tariel Kapanadze   has  form of
-the infinitely  growing    signal.

But Stanley Meyer waveform shows the same behavior

We assume that his  invention was real so is Tariel Kapanadze.
And now you have  similarity between the two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBsaBWt84Q&t=39s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvBsaBWt84Q&t=39s)
This video shows spark gap waveform made  by Russian  I spoke to few minutes ago.

Wesley


Excerpts from,  "The Don Smith Book - Magnetic Resonance Energy Crafting Systematic Index"  by Richard Friedrich
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 10, 2019, 11:55:53 PM
Klystron
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 11, 2019, 12:19:49 AM
Note: for these who don't understand  the importance of  it :If no-interupting  or overloading  factor exist  the bell  waveform would be infinitely growing.It looks like Stanley Meyer  water fuel cell patentBut "I didn't find exactly that  drawing.


Klystron
Thank you very much https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klystron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klystron)
I see it as  helpful information.
However  Klystron operates at  HF band  and acts as a valve
But here we have:
1. Low-Frequency Klystron for Accelerator Applications
   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224287346_Low-Frequency_Klystron_for_Accelerator_Applications (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224287346_Low-Frequency_Klystron_for_Accelerator_Applications)
   and that is interesting.
  The low frequency for the article and application   is still quite high  201MHz.
2. The table III sends  us   to 100MHz
3.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031891459905397 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0031891459905397)
Quote
A description is given of a servo, stabilizing the frequency of a microwave oscillator to the resonance
frequency of a cavity, modulated at an audio frequency.
The stabilizer requires no re-adjustment and is designed especially for very short waves and continuous operation
Thee is not much explanation   and audible frequency may  act as  pulse  beat.
so we may  scrap   point 3.

I  see  a.king21 comment as important.
Traveling-wave tube:
Quote
Traveling-wave tube. A traveling-wave tube ( TWT, pronounced "twit")
or traveling-wave tube amplifier ( TWTA, pronounced "tweeta") is a specialized
vacuum tube that is used in electronics to amplify radio frequency (RF) signals
in the microwave range. The TWT belongs to a category of "linear beam"
tubes
, such as the klystron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_tube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveling_wave_tube)
https://www.revolvy.com/page/Traveling%252Dwave-tube (https://www.revolvy.com/page/Traveling%252Dwave-tube)

One of simple techniques is to take CRT from old oscilloscope or old long neck CRT. Cut just the neck( the longer the better.)
Open neck is the glass tube similar to cold catode tube.- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_cathode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_cathode)
The only difference is that  our tube has filament.
We than may at easiest place it in glass jar  and vacuum it, or  heat it  with  torch and  and join it  it to  glass tube from Glass  Pyrex labware,  .
I did  it in the past. It is doable. 
The targeted focused electron beam   can  be check  using piece  of fluorescent screen from old CRT or  fluorescent lamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=3OgsqhxwGmo

Wesley

PS: But  everything that is big   can  be scaled down. ..well not everything.. waveguide must have real estate  to work.
By that Schumann  waveguide is  space between earth and  ionosphere.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 11, 2019, 12:24:47 AM
some  snack  of good  and old
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=47&v=OI_HFnNTfyU
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on May 11, 2019, 12:35:11 AM
A klystron needs input power to heat the filament for emitting electrons from the cathode.
Also high positive voltages should be created by a power supply for accelerating
the electrons and to maintain the negative resistance. 
So basically this device has a COP < 1 in itself, just like the good old electric valves or transistors etc we use for amplifying any signal.   
So question remains where the 'magic' happens if COP > 1 result is forecast?
Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 11, 2019, 01:08:15 AM
A klystron needs input power to heat the filament for emitting electrons from the cathode.
Also high positive voltages should be created by a power supply for accelerating
the electrons and to maintain the negative resistance. 
So basically this device has a COP < 1 in itself, just like the good old electric valves or transistors etc we use for amplifying any signal.   
So question remains where the 'magic' happens if COP > 1 result is forecast?
Gyula
There is almost never  COP>1 unless  you dealing with Coefficient of Performance – Heat Pump, Refrigerator, Air Conditioner.
There  is no  overunity.
however  the subject was brought to your attention  by CHAIN OF  INTERACTIONS  STARTING  WITH   ionisation   in presence of hydrogen for 
Stanley Meyer that was next compared to Tariel Kapanadze
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102)
I found common factors  ( similarity) between the two.
Thank you.
the  3 factors:
-HV
-resonance
-ionization
 in Stanley Mayer and Tariel Kapanadze  are accounted for.
 we also have  electrostatic potential.

By that we can  conclude  that ionization of  the air  when compared to picture ( two links)
showing hydrogen  phases of energy conversion and  Bell waveform  (known   as   trumpet ) can  be  a factor  of must have it!!!
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172822/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172822/image//)
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172823/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172823/image//)


-in other words I'm pointing at identification of energy conversion based on its components  e.g hydrogen look at the picture and its  descriptors. 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 11, 2019, 01:46:35 AM
The RLC circuit is not an effect.  It's a cause.  Phase conjugate mirror creates negative resistance.
Look again at the RlC  circuit. Check the ARRL nomograph .


You are looking for 120 cps. 60 up and 60 down.
Read Gabriel Kron.


Remember Kirchoffs laws are a special case. They do not apply to external magnetic fields.
Nearly every circuit has an internal or external magnetic field.  Use Faraday's law instead.
All the physics books even at University level  have have it wrong.
Don't believe me.  Believe MIT


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kirchoff+is+for+the+birds&view=detail&mid=943946C8F2CCD60A2132943946C8F2CCD60A2132&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kirchoff+is+for+the+birds&view=detail&mid=943946C8F2CCD60A2132943946C8F2CCD60A2132&FORM=VIRE)


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 11, 2019, 02:25:35 AM
from last minute:
Secret of Svobodian motor.
Often videos  are deleted so please make copy of this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=A_Zd5L3WXCo&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=A_Zd5L3WXCo&feature=youtu.be)

Please look in  this video  at uneven surface of original Svobodian coils.
Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 11, 2019, 02:38:30 AM
a. King21 : very small written : " c. Eigen-function" ( Figure 4 )
An array :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=0&ND=2&adjacent=true&FT=D&date=20061031&CC=CH&NR=695975A5&KC=A5#
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tysb3 on May 13, 2019, 06:51:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmU1Jjs94ZI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmU1Jjs94ZI)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 02:54:38 AM

there is  some misunderstanding in  the video
about impedance and its reactive components in minute 5:57
Here you have link to calculate inductive reactance.
http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/Inductor-impedance-calculator.php (http://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/Articles/Inductor-impedance-calculator.php)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil)
Quote
In electrical terms, this means that the self-inductance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-inductance) of the  bifilar coil is zero.
if it is Zero at this  configuration.
But  coil wire  capacitance  means capacitive reactance is not zero.!!!
Impedance exists only at AC and  has  3 components:
-resistance
- capacitive  reactance
-  inductive reactance
 the trick making that what we are waiting for is parasitic oscillations.
 the concept  of coil of Svobodian is shown on the pictures;


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 03:04:11 AM
#2
I'm simply delighted by comment at 7:17 expressed in the video from above.
 The coil of Svobodian shown in 
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534233/#msg534233 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534233/#msg534233)
cancels its inductance  but  becomes capacitively active.
Good  conclusion.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 03:21:42 AM
#3
In minute 8:01 of the video from above  there is a statement:
 
Quote
Since we have only capacitive component left  in bifilar coil than we can  work at frequency of capacitive reactance with another coil.

Well every  capacitor has his own inductive reactance .
It is the matter of relation.
for bifilar : coil to coil inductance =0
( if it can  be zero  look  at types of bifilar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil) )
Coil capacitive reactance  in that relation is evident.
But now you take this assembly in relation to itself...
And  you are very much surprised.

so  Gentlemen in video   proposes such assembly interaction with another coil.
https://youtu.be/vmU1Jjs94ZI?t=519 (https://youtu.be/vmU1Jjs94ZI?t=519)
here his is too revolutionary but very interesting.
He explains circular motion ( rotation  of  the disc - with the fixed center pin)  of the magnets with  fixed coils or reverse and interaction  of such bifilar assembly -with magnetic field of the magnet.

We need to understand here:
That bifilar can only be canceling  one of reactive components ( Inductive Reactance )if there is no influence of external moving field  due to rotation.
Wesley
 


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 03:29:42 AM
#4
 in 9:10  gentelmen  says that capacitive reactive  character of inductor  means leading  capacitive reactance.
If you look   at Smith Chart you can  see that voltage is now rapidly increased.
It could  go to few thousands V .
due to rotation  of the disc  with magnets( or coils) that Voltage variation creates force supporting and increasing rotation at "right  frequency."
This is  done due to magnet being close to coil assembly  during rotation and than  going away. 
I  went so far to half of the video and I'm satisfied
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 03:39:55 AM
#5
 the confusion  starts  usually when you look at product of interaction.
Capacitance is characteristic by  charge storage.
Inductance is  characteristic by its magnetic  field.(when  current is flowing)

So addition of another magnetic field from magnet  on the disc approaching  fixed position  coil
makes this bifilar balanced coil structure to  "go crazy" for that particular moment in time.
The gentleman is mentioning Caduceus ( Lithuania Experiment part 2)
 However in https://youtu.be/vmU1Jjs94ZI?t=734 statement about Free energy  doesn't explain  what energy is coming from.
He only says how to get the energy.( his own opinion)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 03:57:19 AM
#6
In minute 15:15 he  is  mentioning
please skip  this link: (GRAHAM winding parameters https://watch-winder.store/watch-winding-table/graham/ (https://watch-winder.store/watch-winding-table/graham/))

Gramme coil:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramme_machine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramme_machine)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gramme_Ring_-_4_coil.svg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gramme_Ring_-_4_coil.svg)

I'm confused  with if I understood good  the guy mentioning Stanley  Meyer
tube coaxial  structure.
And than the related to  mechanical resonance ?
I'll look at it tomorrow.
I  didn't see  entire video yet.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 14, 2019, 08:24:17 AM
Hi  to everyone.
And what was this device?
part of the device Soviet-made.
His scheme.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 01:50:39 PM
stivep. dont u think your picture with coil is wrong?"" [size=0px]secret of Svobodian engine ( motor)3.jpg (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172874/)[/font][/size]""  in this pic it seems simple bifilar winding style.
guy in video from start mentions caduceus winding style .   
he also mentions in   video about solenoid coil style winding  and tells to wind one layer of coil one direction then u make new layer in other direction
and every layer changes direction and as i understood all these layers all are separate wires. after u finish winding these separate layers u must connect them   
so in the end it would look like caduceus coil (paralleled like your bifilar picture)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Zd5L3WXCo&t=4s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Zd5L3WXCo&t=4s)
However question to you  guys :)
what is the difference between CC  and CCW coil  winded  on the same former and  the same bifilar  winded  with  double  wire ?
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 02:50:37 PM
Hi  to everyone.
And what was this device?
part of the device Soviet-made.
His scheme.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-8/resonant-filters/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on May 14, 2019, 03:57:13 PM
Hi  to everyone.
And what was this device?
part of the device Soviet-made.
His scheme.
It is very likely a tunable low pass filter whose cut-off frequency can be varied by a DC control voltage connected to the series resistor 
input and the common ground rail.  With varying the DC voltage you can change the capacitance of the varicap diodes hence tune the filter. 
(The series resonant circuits help improve attenuation at further frequencies to be attenuated.)
Here you can see a band pass filter, also tunable by varicap diodes: http://www.amateurradioreceivers.net/blueltnbpf.htm (http://www.amateurradioreceivers.net/blueltnbpf.htm)   
 
Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 04:40:08 PM
sinusoidal signal is delivered to C1 -
After C1 the LC1 shorts to the ground (in Notch filter fashion)  one single frequency that must be eliminated by  filter.
However this LC1  has  its own  bandwidth so it is primary frequency and    some adjacent frequencies that will be cut.
The LC2 acts similar to LC1


 The L1x and the last L.x a different coils.
-L1X   has 2 winds   
-L.x    has 4+ 2 with extended distance   (pitch) between the winds.( note that you have 21 coils  and only 20 diodes)
That last two winds pitch have been manually  adjusted  to resonance.
rule: the wider is the distance between winds the higher is its resonance frequency.
       If frequency of the rest of Lx coils  differs  from frequency of L.x coil than the bandwidth  of band pass  filter is set.
       If frequency of the rest of Lx coils  differs  from frequency of L.x coil   but it overlaps resonance boarder of L.x coil than  we  have nice clean  continuous widening of band pass filter.



 L1x becomes  invisible at frequency  of its own  resonance as if was not there at all.
the same story is with rest of Lx coils

It is band pass filter where only positive impulses are allowed at the output.
The frequency of operation is in 200+MHz
C1 (2 capacitors  in green color) and Lx  coils determines bandwidth of band  pass  filter.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 05:32:29 PM
Widening of bandwidth of bandpass filter by overlapping
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 14, 2019, 05:50:14 PM

https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=352)
https://youtu.be/_YPVwfnvqw0?t=326 (https://youtu.be/_YPVwfnvqw0?t=326)

вот почему ваш CE не работает
Ранняя стадия искровых передатчиков 1901-1927 года
работала с довольно хорошим шумом
из-за ширины полосы искрового промежутка от низкой до 1 ГГц и максимальной на 20 кГц. Вам нужен генератор шума, а не наносекундный генератор.
Вот почему импульсный генератор создания искры ( train impulse generator)
от газового котла является лучшим для его и он был использован в презентации Тариэл Капанадзе мне в 2011 году.
Посмотрите на видео здесь

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 14, 2019, 06:40:33 PM
1000pf green capacitor.
10pf blue capacitor.
diodes D901a
330Ω resistor.
Thank you . did not expect such interest.  :)

p.s. D 901 is a varicap.
But why is it a varicap and not a diode?
Generally atypical circuitry.
We could not understand what it was.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 15, 2019, 01:20:20 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicap)
https://youtu.be/ngvJ0Wv8cFo?t=449 (https://youtu.be/ngvJ0Wv8cFo?t=449)
The Lx coils disappear in resonance increasing the voltage of positive half of an sinusoidal signal
As we decrease the voltage the capacitance is increased.
As we increase  the voltage  the capacitance will decrease. 
      But because we have capacitor C1 at the beginning of the filter than we do not have DC Bios Voltage .
     And because we have capacitor C1 at the rear of the filter  we have it insulated from DC Bios  if there is any.
     If there is no voltage at Varicap than its capacitance will be at fixed value.

So since sinusoidal signal is now changed to  only positive halves  that acts as DC  bios in the time intervals between the halves .( if there  is any voltage >0 )
So to understand it please think of it as system working at Lx coil resonance frequency where capacitive reactance of D901 is compensated to steady fixed and quickly adjusted value .
So think of it as not "important change"  because at output the Voltage will be always the same  and will be compensated  to keep frequency of output signal at fixed value.

However before I will be sure what I'm talking about I need to have original specification of original D901.


here I found:
https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=5793 (https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=5793)
https://eandc.ru/pdf/diod/d901.pdf (https://eandc.ru/pdf/diod/d901.pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icw8terKP-M

Note: I  said the system work at frequency  200MHz  +
The specification  takes as an example 50MHz  but it is not the highest frequency of Varicap.
Honestly I don't know what is the top limit.
I only look at   coils to determine Frequency of the system resonat stage

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 15, 2019, 03:32:45 AM
Advice:
- Connect generator with sinusoidal signal to input
- connect oscilloscope or spectrum analyzer) to output
- gradually increase frequency

Note:
diode  works with  Voltage  from 0 to 50V but.
typical generator gives  around 1V max 10V. so that may be not enough.
For these who don't know  what is varicap /varactor
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/electronic_components/diode/varactor-varicap-diode.php (https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/electronic_components/diode/varactor-varicap-diode.php)
Do not confuse it with  Varistor!!!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varistor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varistor)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 15, 2019, 11:33:11 AM
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 15, 2019, 04:17:59 PM
The following link describes how by using nanospheres to harvest evanescent waves from viruses in order to see them without the normal Ab limit issues.

The interested researcher should investigate Nikola Tesla's use of spheres and micro spheres in context with evanescent fields

Hail Royal Raymond Rife

https://www.cnet.com/news/nanoscope-makes-live-viruses-visible-for-first-time/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 15, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
Tariel  Kapanadze device schematic published  at  realstrannik.com
http://realstrannik.com/media/kunena/attachments/344/file_8febeaf.jpg (http://realstrannik.com/media/kunena/attachments/344/file_8febeaf.jpg)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: tysb3 on May 15, 2019, 04:46:59 PM
@ gyvulys666
all these layers are 2 separate coils in 2 wires. layers need to wind alternately by 2 wires by different directions.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 15, 2019, 05:08:39 PM
Translation  of the text, attached to the picture posted by me  here :
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534370/#msg534370 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534370/#msg534370)


Original  text:

в схему используется принцип Исмаеля Ависо
Ничего не надо больше делать. Схема работает без всякой фапч , сама синхронизируется.
Земля не требуется , это увод Капы. Главное запустить ключ. Он должен слегка быть открытым.
Здесь загвоздка в том что ключ находится под переменным напряжением 15 - 20 вольт 50 гц.
Иначе фокус не получится. Всех это смущает даже спецов.
При таком режиме возникают малозатратный способом волны убийцы.
Капа сжёг ведро транзисторов. Вы молодец умеете рисовать , а я чел прошлого
века плохо владею айпадом. Пока все . Желаю удачи.
ключ коротит катушка в пике амплитудой таким образом беззатратно получается мощные
ВВ импульсах с огромная мощность которые усиливает токовую составляющую инвертора



Translation of text  to the schematic  from above

In the diagram principle  of  Исмаеля Ависо ( Ismael Aviso)  is used 
I found this link    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=XyPRt-uxnKs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=XyPRt-uxnKs)

original link  attached to the text:
http://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,10995.msg103833.html#msg103833 (http://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,10995.msg103833.html#msg103833)

 

Nothing more to do.
The schematic works without PLL, synchronized itself. The Earth is not required, this is  Kapanadze concept.
The main thing to start a key. (K)
It should be opened slightly.
Here is the difficulty that a key is in that under a variable AC Voltage of  15 - 20 volt 50 гц. Otherwise it will not work. All this confuses even professionals
In this mode, a low-energy consuming killer wave occurs.
Kapanadze burned  plenty of transistors
Well done, you know how to draw, but  I as a  person from last century I have little control of the iPad. For now. Good luck.
The key will short the coil at peak amplitude so that powerful explosive pulses with enormous power are obtained without cost, which are amplified by the current component of the inverter.
End of translation.


Note: "current component" is the current in the inverter
Note :  relation to Ismael Aviso  mentioned  in translated  text, can be seen as similar to Stanley Meyer and his water car.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102)



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 16, 2019, 07:01:28 PM
Interesting schematic from Ismael.  His shock wave would be the ferroresonance mode of the circuit in which one can derive the FM magnetic from the AM electric.  The input power needs regulation as one is looking for the bifurcation point of the core material, whatever it may be, in the case that it can achieve saturation from the minimal input as it needs to change state

The first part acts as a laser in which the half wave diode pumps the core to saturation at which point it dumps the magnetic pulse EMP as it drops back down to the relaxed state

One must also use some PCF when moving from RF to DC so as not to backfeed  for transformation to occur and to slow the wave down, similar to a moderator or backwards wave oscillator.



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-20771-w/figures/1

For the few here who understand this, let them elaborate if they wish...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 17, 2019, 08:05:14 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stochastic_resonance
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 17, 2019, 01:17:03 PM
stochastic resonance is interesting ...

they say that a normal (casual) :)varicap transforms the thermal noise voltage into a potential difference across the terminals. It is too small to measure with a microvoltmeter, even with an input resistance of 1MΩ.It accumulates on the parallel condenser for a minute, then connects to the device. I tried, I did not succeed.  Why?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 17, 2019, 04:33:54 PM
Kol, you want to harvest Johnson noise, in that case everything has to be tuned to the gnats ass and all parts need to be extremely high tolerance and RF layout rules on the boards has to followed and a really crappy resistor or some other better  source needs to be used such as a spark gap and then one is building the TK device .

For thermal harvesting one would be better off growing some IR antenna 1/4 wave resonator and making a rectenna than one would harvesting thermo noise the way I envision from your question.  Better off with a temp differential like a wellhole and the sun and simply use Peltier junctions

Stochastic resonance is actually what is happening with the spark gap switch, lots of energy in a little spark and a great seed to pertubate the local out of equilibrium...

The varactorp diode is simply a pump and the same can be accomplished on the B side with a variometer or it's analog which could be a piece of Terfenol D used properly
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2019, 09:36:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbJ_I3xbIMg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbJ_I3xbIMg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-PZIedBQO0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-PZIedBQO0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pj2K_myDu8 this one  is  difficult to swallow  for some of you.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 17, 2019, 09:46:09 PM
https://www.google.com/search?q=bleskin+patent&client=firefox-b-m&prmd=ivns&ei=mAvfXMrpGOifjLsPvZaTkAI&start=10&sa=N (https://www.google.com/search?q=bleskin+patent&client=firefox-b-m&prmd=ivns&ei=mAvfXMrpGOifjLsPvZaTkAI&start=10&sa=N)
SOKRATES ALMANACH
page 44,45,46,47
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2019, 10:01:48 PM
stochastic resonance is interesting ...

they say that a normal (casual) :)varicap transforms the thermal noise voltage into a potential difference across the terminals. It is too small to measure with a microvoltmeter, even with an input resistance of 1MΩ.It accumulates on the parallel condenser for a minute, then connects to the device. I tried, I did not succeed.  Why?

https://youtu.be/99UQQWda8Hc?t=313 (https://youtu.be/99UQQWda8Hc?t=313)
think  about white noise
1. did you have white noise?
2. what in your opinion is the difference between thermal noise and white noise?


http://www.fis.unipr.it/~gigi/dida/strumentazione/harvard_noise.pdf (http://www.fis.unipr.it/~gigi/dida/strumentazione/harvard_noise.pdf)

https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-are-shot-noise-thermal-noise-and-white-noise (https://www.quora.com/What-exactly-are-shot-noise-thermal-noise-and-white-noise)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2019, 10:14:00 PM
Stochastic Resonance.  A stochastic resonance is a phenomenon in which a nonlinear
system is subjected to a periodic modulated signal so weak as to be normally undetectable,
but it becomes detectable due to resonance between the weak deterministic signal and stochastic noise.
The earliest definition of stochastic resonance was the maximum of the output signal strength as a function of noise (http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Noise.html) (Bulsara and Gammaitoni 1996).
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/StochasticResonance.html
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2019, 10:31:16 PM
https://youtu.be/OqBRWt0UqXE?t=436 (https://youtu.be/OqBRWt0UqXE?t=436)
this one is not about resonance  but is easy  enough  for understanding

this video is very good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvN4Nv4Am6s


In  this  one guy got lost in subject
https://youtu.be/oY3rhszk5z8?t=916 (https://youtu.be/oY3rhszk5z8?t=916)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 17, 2019, 11:06:06 PM
for Russian  speaking audience  this  is  very easy explanation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYC42xd744g

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on May 18, 2019, 02:06:45 AM
@tysB3,

when I saw your coil-arrangement I rememered the subject unilateral-induction by [size=0pt]Eugene M. Efimov[/size][/i][/b]

see here in original language:

http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/11518.html

English translation attached

Mike

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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 18, 2019, 10:17:59 AM
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-342/aflb342m669.pdf (http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-342/aflb342m669.pdf)
this  is great thank you ramset


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 18, 2019, 07:55:09 PM
Yes great video where one can see the noise perturbation acting as lubricant.

Also excellent post concerning sonoluminence and resulting emissions.  Think of moderation similarly to function of slow wave oscillator or BWO
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 18, 2019, 07:59:28 PM
https://www.daenotes.com/electronics/microwave-radar/backward-wave-oscillator-circulator
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 19, 2019, 08:42:03 PM
https://www.daenotes.com/electronics/microwave-radar/backward-wave-oscillator-circulator (https://www.daenotes.com/electronics/microwave-radar/backward-wave-oscillator-circulator)
Carcinotron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward-wave_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward-wave_oscillator)

http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14183/css/The-Backward-Wave-Oscillator-102.htm (http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14183/css/The-Backward-Wave-Oscillator-102.htm)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 21, 2019, 01:24:52 AM
Carcinotron, yes pertinent post Wesley, what requirements need be met to make a slow wave structure?

Maybe some are interested in breaking the functions down in modules as the three following--  At least for me it has interest.  As Don Smith said one should experiment in unit parts first to understand the function before trying to build the whole device.

Let's go back and look at lightening and the return strike, what parameters need be met to create the return?

TK got the caduceus part right, it has two functions what are they?

What requirements must exist to cause an EMP shot from a core?

Also go back to Wesleys vid Andrey Pastukhov where he shows the 2 pipes then here   https://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_theory.html

And please remember this stuff is extremely dangerous and can kill you without prior notice so as Wesley says, don't touch it don't do it. Or to paraphrase; by the time you hear that sound, your soul is already in the lost and found...
  One can go back and read Tesla Colorado Springs Notes and see the urgency in his writings when he brought down the thousands of strike lightening storm on top of his location.  I can imagine even the man OK working day to day with 1-2 million volts had a wake up call on that one. 


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on May 21, 2019, 02:52:25 AM
Circular polarization

https://youtu.be/Fu-aYnRkUgg
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on May 21, 2019, 02:55:38 PM
Carcinotron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward-wave_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backward-wave_oscillator)

http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14183/css/The-Backward-Wave-Oscillator-102.htm (http://electriciantraining.tpub.com/14183/css/The-Backward-Wave-Oscillator-102.htm)

Wesley
hi stivep,
I have got rather acceptable "trumpet waveform" from just one the Nelson device.That guy got real potential but choose to stay humble for reason unknown.
The last i've seen a trumpet waveform was from a youtube video posted in China whom understood Don smith device.It was discussed a long time ago in one of the topic in overunity.Shown as lighting many 220v bulbs.


I do hope both of you can get in touch.I am merely a unofficial reverse engineer but understand nothing.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on May 22, 2019, 01:38:58 AM
@magpwr:
see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4)
this is dated back to 2011. Chris will like it.

Mike
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 24, 2019, 04:34:01 PM
Why are diodes (столбы) D1001-D1100 used in the Lithuanian experiment?
They do not work or almost do not work at 15kHz. Not to mention the above ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 24, 2019, 04:56:01 PM
Viziv build his tower working at 18kHz.
- the closest they could come  to  that  lower harmonics of Schumann frequency.
their  Seneca  Experiment  at 52MHz

In https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534102/#msg534102)
i pointed  that trumpet known also as bell waveform was achieved in  HHO  device of Stanley Meyer.

If no-interrupting  or overloading  factor exist  the bell  waveform would be infinitely growing.
.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on May 26, 2019, 02:42:46 AM
@wesley,
 more than a year has passed when I found this two pages 210 and 211 in the old realstrannik-forum. I was busy with other things but since you posted this scheme here:
Translation  of the text, attached to the picture posted by me  here :
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534370/#msg534370 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg534370/#msg534370)
I thought it fits. For those of you who do not understand russian I first post  the english transation of page 210 followed by the original link.Discussion is only interesting on page 210 and 211.

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20180305145539%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Frealstrannik.ru%2Fforum%2F39-kapanadze%2F135125-generatory-kapanadze-obshhaya-tema-3.html%2F%3Fstart%3D3762 (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=ru&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20180305145539%2Fhttp%3A%2F%2Frealstrannik.ru%2Fforum%2F39-kapanadze%2F135125-generatory-kapanadze-obshhaya-tema-3.html%2F%3Fstart%3D3762)
Original:
https://web.archive.org/web/20180305145539/http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/135125-generatory-kapanadze-obshhaya-tema-3.html/?start=3762 (https://web.archive.org/web/20180305145539/http://realstrannik.ru/forum/39-kapanadze/135125-generatory-kapanadze-obshhaya-tema-3.html/?start=3762)

wesley can you remember the topic in realstrannik-forum  belonging to this picture "schematic  of tariel device posted in  realstrannik.jpg" so we can follow the discussion there. (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172896/)
Mike


 




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 27, 2019, 09:15:32 PM
All the same, I'm wrong. D1006 operates at 15 kHz.
But still better to use КЦ103-КЦ106,Кц109 etc.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 28, 2019, 02:33:06 AM
Dynatron  very much  known  Ukrainian    FE activist published picture below
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mrzlica on May 28, 2019, 06:58:53 AM

http://www.r-charge.net/Don-Smith-Resonance-Energy-Crafting-Systematic-Index-Book_p_316.html (http://www.r-charge.net/Don-Smith-Resonance-Energy-Crafting-Systematic-Index-Book_p_316.html)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 29, 2019, 06:24:58 PM
He may know, but he will not. :)
And maybe the whole thing in the switching windings from parallel to serial.
the energy of the magnetic field remains, but after switching, we have twice the voltage.
I'm right?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 30, 2019, 04:52:53 PM
Can you get an archive of these magazines there? And why did it cease to exist many years ago?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on May 31, 2019, 09:20:35 PM
You are right!

As you said I have social issue problem which you don't, so, dont be angry (anger is not social issue behaviour), I wish you well.!
And I am not your "Dear" , please, we are not that close.!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 31, 2019, 11:01:50 PM
By a strange coincidence, the production of neutrons is by HV and Ion. What is the neutron bombardment used for? to change the atomic structure to radioactive. It is really strange that there are so many similarities. Maybe it's too far away from the way the kapa device works, but you have to look deeper.
If you think that kapa put there material like in a patent or similar, the rest of the device is for stimulating the material to work. Could he know about it? he could not have invented it but only built it based on some materials he got or took.

Moderator  addition:
https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_generator.aspx (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_generator.aspx)
Quote
A device for producing high-energy neutrons by using a charged particle accelerator. Neutron generators are used in various pulsed neutron devices and some neutron porosity measurements. In a typical device, deuterium (2D) and tritium (3T) ions are accelerated towards a target also containing the same isotopes. When 2D and 3T collide, they react to produce a neutron with an energy of about 14.1 MeV. The first neutron generators were built in the late 1950s and soon led to the first pulsed neutron capture (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/en/Terms/n/neutron_capture.aspx) log.
http://www.nsd-fusion.com/Technology/How%20to%20use%20Neutrons/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2019, 07:25:13 PM
Part 1:
bibliography
http://www.marychin.org/shows/msc/Chapter1.pdf (http://www.marychin.org/shows/msc/Chapter1.pdf)
https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/3147/v41n03_131.pdf?sequence=1 (https://kb.osu.edu/bitstream/handle/1811/3147/v41n03_131.pdf?sequence=1)
http://aei.pitt.edu/91361/1/3895.pdf (http://aei.pitt.edu/91361/1/3895.pdf)

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168900218312208 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168900218312208)
Quote
The parameters that control the production of neutrons are the working pressure
of the fuel gas, applied voltage (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/electric-potential), measured current and cathode (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/cathodes) geometries.
Quote
The neutrons emitted from the source are confirmed using neutron monitor, bubble dosimeters (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/dosimeters), nuclear track detectors, and
He-3 proportional counter (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/proportional-counters). Presently, the device produces neutrons up to the order of 
106 n/sec at discharge voltage ranging from -60 kV to -80 kV, and discharge current of 20 mA to 30 mA.




non-accessible  but accessible:
https://nuclear-knowledge.com/neutron_initiators.php (https://nuclear-knowledge.com/neutron_initiators.php)
Quote
Gun assembly devices (https://nuclear-knowledge.com/gun_gadget.php) stay in a
 supercritical state during a relatively long time - a time which is sufficient for a background
 neutron to initiate the fission chain reaction.
Internal Neutron Initiation:Polonium-Beryllium (Po-Be) initiatorsTritium/Deuterium InitiatorsExternal Neutron Initiators (ENIs)

Wesley





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2019, 07:26:04 PM
Additional material for part 1
less important.
https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevC.99.044907 (https://physics.aps.org/synopsis-for/10.1103/PhysRevC.99.044907)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 01, 2019, 08:58:49 PM
You want us to build that?

Wesley, what are you doing?
You were excellent researcher before, What happened to you?

And don't take this as insult or something.
It is not my intention!

moderator addition:
Thermo Scientific MP 320  https://assets.thermofisher.com/TFS-Assets/CAD/product-images/F72973~p.eps-650.jpg
Lightweight, Portable Neutron Generator
https://www.thermofisher.com/document-connect/document-connect.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.thermofisher.com%2FTFS-Assets%2FCAD%2FSpecification-Sheets%2FD10497~.pdf&title=TVAgMzIw (https://www.thermofisher.com/document-connect/document-connect.html?url=https%3A%2F%2Fassets.thermofisher.com%2FTFS-Assets%2FCAD%2FSpecification-Sheets%2FD10497~.pdf&title=TVAgMzIw)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2019, 09:02:53 PM
Part 2 bibliography  for transmutation.

Neutron  transmutation.
https://nrl.mit.edu/facilities/ntds (https://nrl.mit.edu/facilities/ntds)
Quote
NTD (Neutron Transmutation) Doping process takes place when undoped (high purity) silicon is irradiated in a thermal neutron flux. The purpose of semiconductor doping is to create free electrons (low resistivity). The thermal neutron is captured by the 30Si atom, which has a 3% abundance in pure Si. Due to the high neutron/proton ratio of 31Si, it will release a beta and, by converting a neutron to a proton, the Si-31 atom transmutes to a P-31 atom.

Nuclear transmutation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation)
Quote
Nuclear transmutation is the conversion of one chemical element (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_element) or an isotope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotope) into another chemical element.
Quote
Artificial transmutation may occur in machinery that has enough energy to cause changes in the nuclear structure of the elements. Such machines include particle accelerators (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_accelerator) and tokamak (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokamak) reactors
however
Quote
Radioactive thorium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium) was converting itself into radium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium) in 1901.
so these processes require little to none outside influence
Whenever you have transmutation  you have energy conversion
( Lithuania Experiment)
Neutron activation:
Quote
is the process in which
neutron radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_radiation) induces (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Induced_radioactivity) radioactivity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactivity) in materials, and occurs
when atomic nuclei (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_nucleus) capture free neutrons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_neutron), becoming heavier and
entering excited states (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excited_state).
The excited nucleus often decays immediately by emitting gamma rays (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_rays),
or particles such as beta particles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay), alpha particles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_particle), fission products (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fission_products),
Think of  energy level that is in MeV's. for single particle.
If it comes  from isotope there   is no need to do anything it is just spontaneous.

homemade fusor (nuclear fusion reactor) - neutron and x-ray radiation, silver activation
https://youtu.be/v9DXecl-OX8?t=55


Neutron Transmutation Database (NeuTran)
https://nrdb.nims.go.jp/index_en.html (https://nrdb.nims.go.jp/index_en.html)




Example of transmutation with  Neutron:
A neutron collides with a nitrogen atom, resulting in a transmutation.
https://brainly.com/question/11156764 (https://brainly.com/question/11156764)

Understanding  Transmutation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=JD5VEzsUE04 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=JD5VEzsUE04) ( not everyone will understand it)
The good thing is that in  practice  these processes  are easy to "observe".
You don't need to view it it is  general information about power generation an  d not in our direction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2555&v=14GwG__3mMQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2555&v=14GwG__3mMQ)
Natural Transmutation 
funny and easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=344&v=I7WTQD2xYtQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=344&v=I7WTQD2xYtQ)


Transition and transmutation the difference.
https://youtu.be/FFJwX_kHPx4?t=51 (https://youtu.be/FFJwX_kHPx4?t=51)

Wesley's N gun based on Colman  experiment. ( bombardment)
https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=514 (https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=514)  in English
https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY?t=488 (https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY?t=488) in Russian.

Harold COLMAN & Ronald GILLESPIE Power Generator
http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm (http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm)

Wesley 



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 02, 2019, 12:53:09 AM
There is no   safe  way.
But it is  relative  term.
Think  about tank in your car with  gasoline in it.
You know  that you can not smoke when pumping  gasoline.
You know that vapor of gasoline if flammable.
But you drive your car.

So is  with decaying particles / isotopes.
The substance of Colman is not active in decaying form but
-When bombarded with photons of 456MHz in impulse frequency  2-6/s
it does  what it says on the video.
You know that  inverse square law is the key to understand  safety.
http://www.radprocalculator.com/InverseSquare.aspx (http://www.radprocalculator.com/InverseSquare.aspx)
This one is  for electromagnetic wave including  gamma.

Just few  cm  from the source the energy level of randomly emitted  photons  and particles is  levels  down.
At few cm more  it becomes non detectable by most modern detectors for  AM 241 or CS137  sources.
http://www.spectrumtechniques.com/products/sources/ (http://www.spectrumtechniques.com/products/sources/)

 You know that collimator is
Quote
a device that narrows a beam of particles or waves.
To narrow can mean either to cause the directions of motion
to become more aligned in a specific direction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collimator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collimator)

This  acts  as your safety enclosure
You know  behavior  of alpha beta gamma neutron.
And that is enough  to know to have the same level of confidence  as you have with gasoline tank.
Alpha is  heavy  and   slow.
Beta is faster but it is also particle
Gamma is fast
Neutron is fast ( particle)
When not slowed down Neutron simply  miss the target and is mostly not interacting with it.
To slow it down you need Teflon or other similar plastic.


In this point  of  video  the click you hear is   me  simply  pushing  the button of the microphone
As  fast as I  could ( manually)
That creates  pulses at Tx of  100W   output at 440MHz.
Due to high SWR the max power out was  20W   PEP.

https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=902 (https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=902)
the TX  used was TS2000.  no  antenna  but few  winds of  coil  in  Near Field
3cm from Colman  tube.



The simplest way to have N  generator is source of alpha particles  and   beryllium 
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/a-question-on-beryllium-as-a-neutron-moderator.390193/ (https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/a-question-on-beryllium-as-a-neutron-moderator.390193/)

Quote
Neutrons are liberated when beryllium nuclei are struck by energetic alpha particles producing the nuclear
reaction 9 4 Be + 4 2 He → 12 6 C + n. where 4 2 He is an alpha particle and 12 6 C is a carbon-12 nucleus.
 Beryllium also releases neutrons under bombardment by gamma rays.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium)
The source of  alpha  home smoke detector  with Am241

Wesley

Legal note:
This information is  for education purposes only.
 I don't take responsibility for your action.

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on June 02, 2019, 09:32:14 AM
Quote
Think  about tank in your car with  gasoline in it.
You know  that you can not smoke when pumping  gasoline.
You know that vapor of gasoline if flammable.
But you drive your car.

Why doesn't gasoline in a tank explode in electric gasoline pumps with their sparkling brushes? Even when gasoline runs out, it sucks in air ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 02, 2019, 01:41:37 PM
Why doesn't gasoline in a tank explode in electric gasoline pumps with their sparkling brushes? Even when gasoline runs out, it sucks in air ?
here is  some  answer
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070605223936AAPpsHs (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070605223936AAPpsHs)
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071013225842AAUUjh8&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD64ABzzzTmp1MtpVraFHjdY9pwmSRaana5uPEqM_DdQTKsWB7Hkp57_0IKlwzVUrto0BqjOhZ8xrFlhbebmC0V6DDdt3jWVKrTq_wtglsZw8DY1ypV8B4CZDig8f5-nvo-vG17V3sq3ucZijgPUjqst_RAvDGPqyKp3S8bpkROd (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071013225842AAUUjh8&guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAD64ABzzzTmp1MtpVraFHjdY9pwmSRaana5uPEqM_DdQTKsWB7Hkp57_0IKlwzVUrto0BqjOhZ8xrFlhbebmC0V6DDdt3jWVKrTq_wtglsZw8DY1ypV8B4CZDig8f5-nvo-vG17V3sq3ucZijgPUjqst_RAvDGPqyKp3S8bpkROd)
Quote
Gasoline does not conduct electricity. 
 Only water with minerals in it will conduct. Distilled water won't even conduct. 
 I wondered the same thing when I first changed a tank pump.  1) DC not AC
 2) properly grounded
 3) gas requires a mixture of air and fuel with compression and spark to combust.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on June 02, 2019, 02:17:52 PM
Quote
Now if you ran out of gas, let the pump run dry and kept it running until just before it burned it self out, then pumped fresh air into the tank at exactly the right time you might get it to explode.
:) :D ;D
Well, I basically thought so.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 02, 2019, 10:39:33 PM
Anyway, wish you luck!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on June 04, 2019, 10:37:12 AM
Wesley

When did you see the device operating in the garage of Kapanadze. Did you hear any sound? e.g. noise? squeaking? or something you can describe.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 04, 2019, 11:15:20 AM
Yes I did.
Sound of relay- click 
Tariel  helper was trying to fool  my attention  (yelling)  , and sound of  battery charger(  booster)  used
to start the device.

So he was  sparking  the two clips  of the two wires   to  create the sound  of  the spark.
Than  in  one point (while using his voice at loud)  he connected the  two electrodes to  the device. 
There was characteristic sound  of the relay  from the device.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on June 04, 2019, 12:36:33 PM
The sound of the relay was continuous? or just on switching? what speed could he have had if he was still working?
Was another sound heard. I mean a squeal of 4-15kHz
I know that you have already thought about all this but try to match the best solution all the time.
I also know that you are currently a supporter of Viziv from Kapanadze and this is also a good explanation but I am looking for a connection with ferrites that also have other properties when they are made of different materials.
I deal with this because I had an interesting test and it brought me closer to the ferrites. I remember Kapa saying that he uses 5-6 ferrites in his first device. I do not know why most of them think that coils are there. We also know that similar effects can be with pure iron so an iron pipe could be there. It all hangs up but I want to say that it is now perhaps an investigation to which he returns after 2 years. You can say that I made a circle.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 04, 2019, 01:44:31 PM
HUMANITY mandates FAIRNESS, simple humans not :

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The Alabama estate administration : without HUMANITY,  only classical humanoid = apartheid and racism
Are you saying you are trying to help your people in a closed community by this type of technology ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 04, 2019, 01:48:36 PM
The sound of the relay was continuous? or just on switching? what speed could he have had if he was still working?
Was another sound heard. I mean a squeal of 4-15kHz
I know that you have already thought about all this but try to match the best solution all the time.
I also know that you are currently a supporter of Viziv from Kapanadze and this is also a good explanation but I am looking for a connection with ferrites that also have other properties when they are made of different materials.
I deal with this because I had an interesting test and it brought me closer to the ferrites. I remember Kapa saying that he uses 5-6 ferrites in his first device. I do not know why most of them think that coils are there. We also know that similar effects can be with pure iron so an iron pipe could be there. It all hangs up but I want to say that it is now perhaps an investigation to which he returns after 2 years. You can say that I made a circle.
yeah iron might work in a relay but it's far too slow for optimum gain a person in the real world would want to except as optimum.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on June 05, 2019, 08:55:02 AM
I agree that the need for a spark that gives a wide spectrum because it is not for frequencies only ...!

What you have heard is the effect of the relay which after the jump no longer worked?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 05, 2019, 07:56:22 PM
You  need to understand  that original  spark  gap   was replaced by Tariel Kapanadze ""Helper  with HV train pulse  generator from  gas heating  furnace.
Wesley

Is that device is made by Kapanadze or that man on your video?
What I am trying to ask is: Did they all know how it works or only Kapanadze itself?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on June 06, 2019, 11:35:46 PM
Wesley,

A short while back we were talking VNA's and you were kind enough to make some recommendations the final one being the PCI card unit.

I found this AIM unit interesting and would love your opinion concerning it's specs since you are much more knowledgeable in this gear.  I showed it to you before and not sure if your response was humbug or what.  I like the fact it is very modern, inexpensive and has been recommended by some RF guys I know.  However I am not sure of our requirements besides S parameters and the frequency.

https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf

I am coming back on some time and look forward to going down that one rabbit hole.

Thanks,
Mick

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on June 12, 2019, 03:49:55 AM


translation
Hello everyone.
Im being a bit skeptical now but thats the point I guess.
I looked up antennas and Refractions and surface waves etc.
Im not an expert but In order to get surface wave (zenneck for example)
Wave must travel thru more refractive material first and experience total refraction when reaches less refractive material at brewster angle.
Здравствуйте все. Сейчас я немного скептически отношусь, но в этом и есть смысл. Я посмотрел антенны и "Преломления",( refraction) а также поверхностные волны и т. Д. Я не эксперт, но для того, чтобы получить поверхностную волну (например, zenneck), волна должна сначала проходить через большее количество "преломляющего" (refractive) материала и испытывать полное {"преломление",(refraction) когда достигает меньшего "преломляющего" (refractive) материала под углом Брюстера.

So source must be underground .
tesla coil + ground seems to work just like communication antenna. Monopole antenna create mirror image by reflection from ground surface
and behaves like dipole antenna.
Так что источник должен быть под землей. Земля катушки Тесла, кажется, работает так же, как антенна связи. Монопольная антенна создает зеркальное отражение при отражении от поверхности земли и ведет себя как дипольная антенна.
When you succeed in launching a surface wave you get total Refraction and no reflection so no ground mirror effect .

No ground mirror effect means no underground image of the antenna aka probe so wesleys simulation of tesla coil launching air/ground interface Zenneck wave will not work because you get reflection only.
Im probably missing something and all my knowledge comes from wikipedia Lol.
Maybe thats why Tesla went bankrupt digging tunnels for grounding of his magnifying transmitter.
Когда вам удастся запустить поверхностную волну, вы получите полное преломление и никакого отражения, так что нет эффекта зеркала. Отсутствие эффекта наземного зеркала означает отсутствие подземного изображения антенны или зонда, поэтому имитация моделирования катушки Тесла, запускающего воздушный / наземный интерфейс, волны Зеннека не будет работать, поскольку вы получаете только отражение. Я, наверное, что-то упустил, и все мои знания получены из Википедии Lol. Возможно, именно поэтому Тесла обанкротился, копая туннели для заземления своего увеличительного передатчика.


Thank You and please explain me why am I wrong.
Спасибо и, пожалуйста, объясните мне, почему я не прав.

Simple  short answer from moderator:
you didn't  include in your analysis:
1. polarization
2. HV static forces
3.  Standing wave 

Простой короткий ответ от модератора,
вы не включили в свой анализ :
1. поляризация
2. статические силы ВН
3. стоячая волна

Note  translation was  added to original  post by  moderator to help Stalker to understand  better.
перевод был добавлен в оригинальный пост модератором, чтобы помочь Сталкер лучше понять.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 12, 2019, 08:19:18 PM
Questions  directed to me from Russian audience:
What frequency  Viziv  tower works  at.?

answer :

18kHz  when  in  full power ( 22kHz when testing)
but The 18kHz is at the  harmonic  of  Schumann resonance.!!!!!!!!!!!

Башня Viziv работает в частоте 18kHz. но хорошо .... э
 должнa работать na 18kHz  когда на полную мощность
Снова Вы должны ждать part  #2 моей статьи, чтобы понять больше..
(22kHz test mode)

 
18 кГц - гармоника
нo  резонанса Шумана. !!!!!!!!!!!

Note: but this is not one single frequency - it is spectrum of available frequencies at 18kHz.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on June 15, 2019, 01:45:56 AM
Please let me clarify some nonsense in my post. It really takes a lot of time to compose it . And time is what I lack the most.

1. Polarization Is it only physical orientation of coil . just like vertical monopole or dipole . spheres one over another in vertical lane above ground ?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . so high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?

3. Standing Wave  - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_wave  wiki posted animation about two waves traveling one right other left. Is this why 90 degree and two coils? Then coil 3
                              inside the two, experience that kind of wave form creation? (still its a bit confusing )



1. Polarization  - Electromagnetic waves (such as light), traveling in free space or another homogeneous isotropic non-attenuating medium, are properly described as transverse waves, meaning that a plane wave's electric field vector E and magnetic field H are in directions perpendicular to (or "transverse" to) the direction of wave propagation; E and H are also perpendicular to each other. By convention, the "polarization" direction of an electromagnetic wave is given by its electric field vector.
From a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ now i know that this is controlled by adjusting a distance between ground and top capacitor (top load) . ?  what if i want to excite surface wave using other material instead of earth ( air and water)?? same principle?

2. HV static - While watching clip from Andrey Pastukhov  i can see person being carefull keeping hands away from antenna . So high voltage(like tesla coil)  is necessary?
Tesla coil may work properly up to a megahertz or little more, but what about 52 mhz ?
This high frequency gives me 4.73 feet length of wire and that is not enough to build tesla coil or slayer exciter. And this is my another
question will this work with kacher ( slayer  circuit ) or classic tesla coil setup is necessary ? Im looking for easy way to pulse  coil at resonant frequency.

3. Standing waves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DovunOxlY1k
So simply for this condition i need resonance?
http://www.deepfriedneon.com/tesla_frame0.html
following instructions from your video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ I need to keep this "tesla coil" resonating (L1-L2),
what about 1/4 wavelength for my secondary coil wire length ? 
Nodes and standing waves were present in hairpin circuit . That required resonant match of nst transformer to capacitors used in series.
I wonder if i can simulate this using signal generator and observe it on my cheap Chinese oscilloscope . Any suggestions how?

Thats it for now.
Thank You.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 18, 2019, 12:24:59 AM
Tiger from Kazakhstan
This is his work with Electret.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret)

The capacitor next to Spark Gap is  0.1microfarad
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on June 18, 2019, 08:36:43 AM
Electret - I've done experiments with these waxes and the effect is positive.
The film has successful and failed attempts with electret as well as the effect of charging plexiglass to a negative value which is strange.
You can have similar effects with Teflon (PTFE) or plexi have much better electrostatic properties.

However, there are not many potentials but they are permanent.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeuAaR1TvxY
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 18, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
Creating Electret from  spool  of coax wire
Important!!!:
The HV   od  30kV or   less, can not  make spark  from shield to inner wire.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 18, 2019, 06:23:14 PM

Quote
Wesley,
You mentioned 6 types of devices you were able to observe can you quickly name the devices or theories?

I was  working on, or having contact with  number of applications:
1 mechanical from application of existing longitudinal wave using sound 
2.mechanical from application of existing longitudinal  wave using vibration 
3.electrical based on energy  extraction from lightning by turning part of its energy into decaying standing wave
causing  secondary micro-lightning( avalanche and utilizing one in small size controlled environment)
4. Colman 
5.electrostatic based on electron trajectory bend  in vacuum in presence  of steady magnetic  field.( similar to tokomac-
  a toroidal apparatus for producing controlled reactions in hot plasma and having noting  to do with fusion)
6. extraction of electrical  energy from Schumann Waveguide / Kapanadze concept
7 magnetic  Ted Annis
8.Magnetic/Mechanical  Extraction and conversion of energy into electrical energy from magnet losing its magnetic force in time.
9.electrostatic Lithuania Experiment.

There are 3 applications in  particle physics
Wesley



 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on June 18, 2019, 08:09:08 PM
Thanks Wesley,
 
Very interesting list.  One could in fact refer to much of nuclear physics as proton electricity, I think this is a better nomenclature for some of what we care about here.

Between the lines there is quite a bit available if one uses the modern technology differently, an MRI for instance.  If one looks closely this is akin to the Coleman and several other devices if used in another mode.  This probably makes some sense to you...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 22, 2019, 12:02:39 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJzVV1piPc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJzVV1piPc)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 22, 2019, 12:25:32 AM
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 22, 2019, 12:41:38 AM
Equipment used   by J Corum to transmit Zenneck wave 
Оборудование, используемое Дж. Корумом для передачи волны Ценнека.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 22, 2019, 01:21:03 AM
Picture at the bottom right is showing original Seneca lake recreation  of Borrows experiment from 1936.
In 2014 J Corum. used equipment   Tx( green color)  Rx  (orange)
The  Viziv tower is marked  correspondingly Rx/Tx
So if  you  know  what it is  you can make the same
 progress.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)

Фотография справа внизу показывает оригинальный -Сенека озеро воссоздание эксперимента Борроуз 1936 года.
В 2014 году Дж. Корум. использованное оборудование Tx (зеленый цвет) Rx (оранжевый) Башня Viziv
обозначена соответственно Rx / Tx.это что вы можете

Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2019, 01:28:31 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJzVV1piPc

In 4:25 of that video it clearly show that they are using power lines for power.

If they developed method of delivering power on distance to your car, they will make millions based only on delivery method.
They don't need overunity for that.

The guy in Viziv video states that system is less than 100% efficient.
Which suggests that they are working only on power delivery part which will make them rich.

Can you tell where you found evidence that Viziv use method for extracting more then input?
If that is the case, then every receiver will receive more than Viziv towers emits and people will fast figure out that the secret is in receiver, reverse engineering it, and use it for themselves, without Viziv emitters.

So, logic dictates that OU part is in emitters,or before emitters, so nobody can reverse engineer it?



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 22, 2019, 01:51:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJzVV1piPc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuJzVV1piPc)
Can you tell where you found evidence that Viziv use method for extracting more then input?
Viziv is not
Nobody is.
There is no overunity  never existed and  will  never exist.
Extra energy comes from energy conversion   from the source of energy  that our device coupled  to .
That is  why energy  extraction  from Schumann Wave guide is  not   overunity but Free Energy.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on June 22, 2019, 02:20:36 AM
Viziv is not
Nobody is.
There is no overunity  never existed and  will  never exist.
Extra energy comes from energy conversion   from the source of energy  that our device coupled  to .
That is  why energy  extraction  from Schumann Wave guide is  not   overunity but Free Energy.
Wesley

In that case every receiver will receive more than Viziv towers emits (from Schumann Wave guide) and people will fast figure out that the secret is in receiver, reverse engineering it, and use it for themselves, without Viziv emitters.
So, Viziv will give to people receivers which can do that.
What stops the people to make their own (copy of Viziv receivers) receivers to extract from Schumann sea of energy?
Viziv will actually give receivers on a plate to everyone which makes them heroes.

The second thing is what feeds Schumann sea of energy?
It is our beloved planet generator. Planet core which provides for us field around planet and protect us.
What do you think will happen when whole world starts to pull energy from Schumann?

What will happen to that generator?

I think we will not live enough, (if the core slows), to tell!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on June 22, 2019, 03:57:50 AM
No Viziv will most likely be using the technique Tesla came up with for encoding which is the same concept as Fourier transform, an analogue key if you will.  The defined power apex will require phase accurate leading edge tuning.  So one is either tuning to the Viziv signal or natural one.   Some smart folks may figure out how to hack the VIziv receivers so they don't require Viziv but pulling power from both sources would be like trying to sync to two different master word clocks.

We are like ants pulling power from that interface.  Some huge oversize Hoover damn size undertaking could pull too much and likely cause some problems with P waves.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on June 22, 2019, 09:06:28 PM
Picture at the bottom right is showing original Seneca lake recreation  of Borrows experiment from 1936.
In 2014 J Corum. used equipment   Tx( green color)  Rx  (orange)
The  Viziv tower is marked  correspondingly Rx/Tx
So if  you  know  what it is  you can make the same
 progress.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)

Фотография справа внизу показывает оригинальный -Сенека озеро воссоздание эксперимента Борроуз 1936 года.
В 2014 году Дж. Корум. использованное оборудование Tx (зеленый цвет) Rx (оранжевый) Башня Viziv
обозначена соответственно Rx / Tx.это что вы можете

Wesley

Rx orange marked by you is a dipole used to generate Norton wave compered to zenneck surface wave in this experiment.
they were on a boat and i doubt they used it for receiving power. they measured field strength and i believe they used different type of equipment.

Thank you and waiting for more important information .
ps.
I need relative permittivity and conductivity of distiled water at 1.85 Mhz .
Im flexible on frequency Thank You.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: saturnio on June 23, 2019, 04:34:04 AM
Hi guys, I don't know if in the past you have been talking about this patent, but it is really interesting. It talks about harvesting energy from Schumman earth resonances as a metod of energy conversion proposed by Wesley. It use a Tesla Coil and and a ground system antenna. Also the patent has cited other importants patents.

"Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth"

This is the company: www.earthenergies.net (http://www.earthenergies.net)
"The Company’s patented technology integrates state-of-the-art electronics with newly discovered geodynamo-based low-frequency subsurface electromagnetic wave energy, into scalable electric power delivery for residential and microgrid applications"

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 30, 2019, 03:55:41 AM
Hi guys, I don't know if in the past you have been talking about this patent, but it is really interesting. It talks about harvesting energy from Schumman earth resonances as a metod of energy conversion proposed by Wesley. It use a Tesla Coil and and a ground system antenna. Also the patent has cited other importants patents.

"Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth"

This is the company: www.earthenergies.net (http://www.earthenergies.net)
"The Company’s patented technology integrates state-of-the-art electronics with newly discovered geodynamo-based low-frequency subsurface electromagnetic wave energy, into scalable electric power delivery for residential and microgrid applications"

I have analyzed   patent from Earth Energy  and
I think that  it will  be  the  best if I make video about it.
There is some interesting material  there.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150102675.pdf  (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150102675.pdf)At  link shows  that is not secure.

so go here:https://patents.justia.com/assignee/earth-energies-inc
but that doesn't give you any good

the best is direct here:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en)




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 30, 2019, 03:07:42 PM
Wesley dear friend, I see some have found this article, I wonder if any one person has found a way of actually generating that schumann frequency of 7.85 hz with division of available crystal devices or modules with out
ending up with a pile of trailing digits below the decimal point. Thoughts any one ?

regards AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: saturnio on June 30, 2019, 04:16:44 PM
I have analyzed   patent from Earth Energy  and
I think that  it will  be  the  best if I make video about it.
There is some interesting material  there.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150102675.pdf  (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20150102675.pdf)At  link shows  that is not secure.

so go here:https://patents.justia.com/assignee/earth-energies-inc
but that doesn't give you any good

the best is direct here:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en)




Wesley


Wesley, one thing that I find quite interesting is the grounding. As we know, in some Kapanadze videos there is an special grounding as attached picture shows.

From patent:
"In the resonant mode, the impedance of the power receiver 10 is reduced to near zero thus inducing ground currents to flow into the power receiver 10 where the ground currents are converted to useful form"....    (where "power receiver" is the "ground system", that as I know  it is not a simple thing)

"applying a high voltage electrical impulse to the resonant circuit to induce current flow from the ground terminal through the resonant circuit,"


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on June 30, 2019, 05:04:48 PM
Great point saturnio and that's  why i have mentioned expensive grounding that killed Teslas tower.
From Kapanadze we learn that it might be smaller and cheaper but this might limit output of device.

Vizin provide patents for surface probes.

1 Tesla tower with ground connection and thats what they build in Texas .

2 Probe with 2 terminals aka spheres . This seems to not need any ground connection at least at transmitter end , im not sure about receiver.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on June 30, 2019, 10:18:20 PM
Dear Forum

This might be unrelated to topic ( At this point).
Its been discussed in a past but im still having problems with explanation .
Do to lack of input im unable to get some satisfying results.
 
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 is a video where Wesley is doing so called dielectric excitation . 
All the posts about Vizin  got me little confused and i think i have mistaken this technology with what Wesley did in his video.

What i have now is flyback with two primaries and schematic of phase shifter circuit .
Once more this is not vizin or kapanadze. Not yet . I need to see this first before i can move forward.

Vizin is using phase shift (time delay) to compensate for wave tilt so they can get physical wave at precise angle (brewster angle LoL).
Pastuhkov claims wave form creation when two electromagnetic fields collide at 90 degree time delay .
Is it voltage and current delayed or just one?
His small black box cant be tesla coil and patent does not specify that it must be air core transformer. Thats why ill try with flyback.
Have any of you build it and got positive results ?
Am i going in the right direction?
My flyback has a diode so im planning on using other end to make connection with my sphere antenna and see what happens. 

People claim Vizin build based on Nikola Tesla work. I have never came across anything about surface wave, em wave polarization , time delay of a wave
while reading about Tesla or his work. They all claim he used EM wave ( Radio wave ) for transfer of energy, but all his patents state otherwise .
Then you can read in his colorado springs notes that he used non radiating wave .
Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster (1781–1868) 
Brewster, David (1815). "On the laws which regulate the polarisation of light by reflexion from transparent bodies". Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London.
This guy did his research  years before Tesla so Tesla must know this and came up with idea of using this polarization not only for light waves but for EM too.
So why all  publications talk about ground currents (NORTON) and non of them mention Zenneck surface wave.
Sommerfeld, Arnold, "Uber die Ausbreitung der Wellen in der Drahtlosen Telegraphie" (Tr. The Propagation of Waves in Wireless Telegraphy) 1909
Zenneck, Jonathan, "Über die Fortpflanzung ebener elektromagnetischer Wellen längs einer ebenen Leiterfläche und ihre Beziehung zur drahtlosen Telegraphie" (Tr. "About the propagation of electromagnetic plane waves along a conductor plane and their relationship to wireless telegraphy") 1907

At Colorado Springs, in May 1899, Tesla, several of his assistants, and a local contractor commenced the construction of Tesla's laboratory shortly after arriving in Colorado Springs, Colorado

That means Tesla did it a decade before first theoretical paper has been published. Where we can find information related to this research. Is it suppressed, lost , or it never happen.
How Vizin guys came up with this? they must be very smart.
 Still there is one more question:
Now we know he used Zenneck surface wave and Interface was and still is located between earth and air underneath our feet .
His first patent talked about and experimentally proved possibility of wireless energy transfer via upper strata of earths atmosphere.
What if Wesley is looking at wrong interface. Air earth interface works fine for Vizin, but all static charges are up in the air.
Its only different approach to a problem of extracting free energy that has its source at our SUN.
Maybe this is why Vizin is transferring electrical energy and not tapping in to  unlimited source of energy.

Going back to my questions about dielectric and Wesleys experiment .
I would really  appreciate Your input, Is flyback any good or its just another dead end im running in to.
Any suggestions how test my flyback using signal generator and driving 2 transistors 90degree phase delay  ? Im thinking about flyback driver circuit because its running at resonant frequency,
and phase shifter circuit to feed 90degree input for second transistor.  Coax is good time delay but at high frequency and will not work for my
flyback.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXZ9C914S0 Phase shift circuit im considering at the moment.
 
Thank You
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 01, 2019, 02:25:19 AM

-video editing
-what computer is right for the job
-what is configuration of video editing computer
- Davinci Resolve 16 video/ film editing software and colorist software
-difference between video camera and film camera-difference between graded and non graded  files by comparison of V-log RAW vs V-log RAW graded
Davinci Resolve is for free Hollywood editing software for both video and film.Studio version cost $300
 https://youtu.be/xAXXaNJzwjE (https://youtu.be/xAXXaNJzwjE)



Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 01, 2019, 07:00:22 PM
Links to remember for  future  study:
5.3.3 - The resistance/impedance relationship
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/5.3.3.htm (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Book/5.3.3.htm)

Unveiling the topological nature of electromagnetic surface waves
https://physicsworld.com/a/unveiling-the-topological-nature-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves/ (https://physicsworld.com/a/unveiling-the-topological-nature-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves/)

A New Approximate Method for Lightning-Radiated ELF/VLF Ground Wave Propagation over Intermediate Ranges
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijap/2018/9353294/ (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijap/2018/9353294/)

15-000-Volts-30mA-Neon-Transformer
https://www.partsforsigns.com/allanson-101530bpx120r-uni-serve-neon-transformer-15000v-30ma/?msclkid=54a2e56dcca51792d911b8779b3f8b34 (https://www.partsforsigns.com/allanson-101530bpx120r-uni-serve-neon-transformer-15000v-30ma/?msclkid=54a2e56dcca51792d911b8779b3f8b34)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Allanson-1530BPX120-15-000-Volts-30mA-Neon-Transformer-at-120Volts/264242723514?epid=15122339 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Allanson-1530BPX120-15-000-Volts-30mA-Neon-Transformer-at-120Volts/264242723514?epid=1512233907&hash=item3d8617faba:g:ar4AAOSwIA1cjeMO)

Method and Apparatus for Extracting and Conveying Electrical Energy From the Earth's Ionosphere Cavity
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150102676A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20150102676A1/en)

Wave Impedance and Phase
https://em.geosci.xyz/content/maxwell1_fundamentals/harmonic_planewaves_homogeneous/impedancephase.html (https://em.geosci.xyz/content/maxwell1_fundamentals/harmonic_planewaves_homogeneous/impedancephase.html)


http://www.hyiq.org/ (http://www.hyiq.org/). Take it with grain of salt
http://www.hyiq.org/Updates/Update?Name=Update%2014-04-06 (https://chavascience.com/index.php/en/https://chavascience.com/en/hydrogen)

Solid state electric generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7830065B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7830065B2/en)

Polarization density
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_density (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_density)

White Paper: What Actually Creates The 90 Degree Coupler Phase Shift?
https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/what-actually-creates-the-90-degree-coupler-p-0001 (https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/what-actually-creates-the-90-degree-coupler-p-0001)

Method for transmitting electromagnetic energy and device for implementing same
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013191576A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2013191576A1/en)

Solid state electric generator
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7830065B2/e (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7830065B2/e)

Andrey Pastukhov  and Wesley   you must see it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KLAPRNWuAn4https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/2775/post/last_msg/535943/)

Turnstile antenna
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnstile_antenna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turnstile_antenna)


ferromagnetic  materials ( top of  page)
https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq (https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp-Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWRm1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic%20material&f=false)
=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp- (https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp-Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWRm1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic%20material&f=false)
Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWR (https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp-Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWRm1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic%20material&f=false)
m1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic (https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp-Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWRm1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic%20material&f=false)
%20material&f=false (https://books.google.com/books?id=wyiFxKP2OnQC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=deterioration+ofsqare+hysteresis+magnetic+material&source=bl&ots=672PKzp-Rc&sig=LOCLH6pEr_16heZn9tpy2jg7bos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwipm5juhZjfAhWRm1kKHU7CBwwQ6AEIKjAM#v=onepage&q=deterioration%20ofsqare%20hysteresis%20magnetic%20material&f=false)

All of the links  have logical  consequences

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 02, 2019, 04:35:35 PM
Links to remember:
Top loaded slow wave helical resonator
Explanation of what is base, center, top load/Ed coil
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_ (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_coil&ved=2ahUKEwjxocjTtZbjAhVSh-AKHX7tDEIQFjATegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jtjY3Njp4wM6jrgxO6MBf&cshid=1562077849381)
coil&ved= (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_coil&ved=2ahUKEwjxocjTtZbjAhVSh-AKHX7tDEIQFjATegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jtjY3Njp4wM6jrgxO6MBf&cshid=1562077849381)2ahUKEwjxocjTtZbjAhVSh-AKHX7tDEIQFjATegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jtjY3Njp4wM6jrgxO6MBf& (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_coil&ved=2ahUKEwjxocjTtZbjAhVSh-AKHX7tDEIQFjATegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jtjY3Njp4wM6jrgxO6MBf&cshid=1562077849381)
cshid=1562077849381 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loading_coil&ved=2ahUKEwjxocjTtZbjAhVSh-AKHX7tDEIQFjATegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw0jtjY3Njp4wM6jrgxO6MBf&cshid=1562077849381)

Polyphase system    
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system&ved=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MVMCZW7)Polyphase_ (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system&ved=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MVMCZW7)
system&ved (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system&ved=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MVMCZW7)=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MV (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system&ved=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MVMCZW7)
MCZW7 (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_system&ved=0ahUKEwjDh4LMu5bjAhWMTN8KHeetDrYQmhMIXjAE&usg=AOvVaw0DNxyFpkR-GNFa7MVMCZW7)

All of the links  have logical  consequences

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 03, 2019, 02:15:54 PM
Links to remember:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266887036_Input_Characteristics_of_Coated_Thin_Wire_Helix_Antenna (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266887036_Input_Characteristics_of_Coated_Thin_Wire_Helix_Antenna)
or more  accurate:
(a) Geometry of a monofilar helical antenna mounted on a large ground plane; (b) The image theory defined equivalent problem.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/a-Geometry-of-a-monofilar-helical-antenna-mounted-on-a-large-ground-plane-b-The_fig1_266887036 (https://www.researchgate.net/figure/a-Geometry-of-a-monofilar-helical-antenna-mounted-on-a-large-ground-plane-b-The_fig1_266887036)
more of  the same guy from link above:
Sulaiman Adeniyi Adekola
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sulaiman_Adekola (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sulaiman_Adekola)
We are interested with image of coil and  the plane .
 
now compare  it with  image Fig.14 of J Corum
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/US2017077715A1.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/US2017077715A1.pdf)

All of the links  have logical  consequences

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 03, 2019, 03:17:41 PM
Links to remember:

polyphase system for generating, transmitting, and distributing electric current as well.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/nikola-tesla-3 (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/nikola-tesla-3)

Polyphase system  is used by J Corum ( patent)to restrict  theft of Viziv energy  transmitted by   use of earth/  air interface .
  Poly is  not Multi.
So   it is  particular phase  relation  that is mentioned   in Corum  patent.
references:
https://www.teslasociety.com/pdf/who_was_the_real_dr_nikola_tesla.pdf (https://www.teslasociety.com/pdf/who_was_the_real_dr_nikola_tesla.pdf) early corum paper.

Corum, Miller & Corum: Surface Waves TEXZON TECHNOLOGIES CONFERENCE PAPER [DRAFT DATE: March 23, 2016]
 ... 1988), the 60 Hz Ring Power Multiplier (1998, 2003, 2009, 2013), and the Polyphase Surface Wave Probe (2013, 2014, 2015),
and holds several dozen patents. He has authored over 125 technical papers and reports, and his principal ...
Quote
Corum, Miller & Corum: Surface Waves TEXZON TECHNOLOGIES CONFERENCE PAPER [DRAFT DATE:
March 23, 2016] ... 1988), the 60 Hz Ring Power Multiplier (1998, 2003, 2009, 2013), and the
Polyphase
Surface Wave Probe (2013, 2014, 2015), and holds several dozen patents.
He has authored over 125 technical papers and reports, and his principal ...

All of the links  have logical  consequences

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 03, 2019, 03:32:44 PM
Links  to remember:
Re: slow-wave helical resonator
https://www.pupman.com/listarchives/2002/August/msg00303.html (https://www.pupman.com/listarchives/2002/August/msg00303.html)





Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 05, 2019, 09:31:23 AM
Wesley hi, if any one is interested I have a schumann resonance design using 5 chips no shimmering micro only Cmos gives 7.825hz output if any one is interested I will draw out circuit and component list'
regards AG
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on July 05, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
https://overunity.com/18269/revolutionary-air-conditioner/msg536149/#new (https://overunity.com/18269/revolutionary-air-conditioner/msg536149/#new)
near/far field effect  ?does the electric earth surface network, distribution  by wire, change the earth/orbital magneto-/iono-sphere density  ?
how will be the effect by propagated limitless  wireless transmission  ?
The Dmitriev publishing is from 1998;

                                          Specific attention : point 3.2. ....
1998-2019 : who is observing this electro-magnetic planetar/solar system/interstellar progress
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 06, 2019, 09:28:45 PM



Analysis of the equipment used in   J Corum
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 01:02:02 AM
  The 4.9 meter 1.82 MHz surface wave probe and field strength measurements (out to  20 miles)
 compared  with  predicted  fields  for  Zenneck[/font], a λ/4 tower (with 120 radials),
and the actual [/font]Norton vertical stub with only an 8 ft. ground rod at the base of the pole. 
2/12/2016:
C = 45 pF, VRMS= 42.4 volts, εr= 15, σ = 0.012, Rg= 35 Ω. For radiation: h/λ = 0.030, Rr]= 1.38 Ω, ηr = 3.8%.
for  exact wording look at picture 3  below
with the same text.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 01:51:48 AM
characterization of equipment used in J.Corum experiment
http://thehistoryofrecording.com/Test_Equipment/Manuals/HP/HP3200B.pdf (http://thehistoryofrecording.com/Test_Equipment/Manuals/HP/HP3200B.pdf)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 02:15:37 AM
some other choices for amplifier
for 1.8MHz and   others for 52MHz
Recommended is much simpler setup  that requires only
one box.
It is
TS-2000  or any other equivalent
at 52MHz  that is Ham radio band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxvd7Hts-hw&list=PL0-gH_7Nm60Zkogw5sdlSTcOseWaefHI6

this video shows operation  at 52MHz -( 6 meter band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3Q9AVM7lsU

this video shows operation  at 1.8MHz -( 160 meter band)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgGylgeU4SY

this video shows the remote  head TM-D700a  of
The Kenwood TS-B2000 is a 'silver box' version of the TS-2000 (https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hamhf/1978.html).
Picture of  this   Transceiver is  below 

   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSKQYPRrI-Y



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 02:58:51 AM
The advantages and disadvantages of  using  Ham Transceiver  instead of J.Corum  setup.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536279/#msg536279 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536279/#msg536279)
Advantages:
1.  one box operation
2. only battery is required to power  the device  or AC.
3. fast automatic tuning
4. visual observation of SWR
5.  if  Ts-B2000 is used   than  it is even more convenient:
a. remote head TM-D700a is  connected with 6ft -12ft cable.
b.
radio can be   in convenient position and head can be    next to your  eye  view.
c.
when Tesla coil is used than  TS-B2000 can be  at some distance say 54ft and head can be  another 12ft from the  radio

Disadvantages :
1.
when  SWR/ VSWR is to  big ( mismatch 1-3  and  more ) you  shouldn't
    use  continuous carrier as you may damage the power  transistor
note : front-end transistor term  is reserved to  Rx  not to Tx  (and  that confuses some of  you)

2. High Standing wave is not friendly environment for  Transceivers.


recommendation:
 use of  Transmatch
 http://www.arrl.org/transmatch-antenna-tunercan (http://www.arrl.org/transmatch-antenna-tunercan) help lot.
note : TS  2000  and TS-b2000  both have automatic antenna  tuner  however  additional   transmatch/ antenna tunner is  recommended.


1. switch Tx to CW.
2. connect  Key
or
3. automatic  keyer
4. don't allow  continuous long dashes  better use dots.

reasoning:
1.
Tx  has approximately  the  same amount of  time to rest between  dots  or  short   dashes (as is used to transmit.)
2.
The power transistor  cool-down is very effective between  signals.

original  link  that   post is  related  to :
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536259/#msg536259
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 03:37:37 AM
Advantages
of  use J Corum configuration:

commercial amplifiers are very tough.
-strong enough to withstand adverse conditions or rough or careless handling.
- most of  them  have overload circuitry.
- lowering  voltage from signal generator you can  regulate output power from PA.
-you can deliver  to PA  sinusoidal signal or any other  waveform  of your choice.



Disadvantages
of  use J Corum configuration:

-when  you  blow your amplifier - you can say goodby to  it.
 
and you will be  hunting for another one for quite a good time.

Note:
-
this equipment is 3 times  more  expensive than Kenwood TS-2000
  but ham  equipment is often very  cheap and  easy  to find.
  at best on hamfest.

- you can use any of other  transceivers  e.g Yesu.
   there is large  amount of 100W output   Mobile  transceivers with remote head,.


Note:
Use of unmodulated  CW  (A1   European standard known as A1)   is   your sinusoidal signal.
Use of     modulated  CW  (A2   European standard known as A2) with usually 800 Hz- 1kHz  signal   is   your "square signal."equivalent  if keyed.

The difference  is that that in 
A2 - you are dealing here with modulated carrier at length of dots or  dashes mechanically activated but electronically spaced.
However for effect of J. Corum there is no difference.
Preferred is A1


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 04:57:19 AM
Configuration for test:
1 take  J.Corum equipment  and connect it as shown here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536161/#msg536161 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536161/#msg536161)

or

1a.take Kenwood TS-b2000 or any other  e.g Yesu and  you don't need anything  else

1b. make  sure that frequency  of Tx or Trasceiver is  52MHz.
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2. connect surface wave probe  to  output of   your Tx or amplifier.
2a. if using TS-b2000  you have  additional   transmatch it is your big benefit.
2b.connect your  transmatch (antenna  tuner) between   surface wave probe and your TS-b2000

Note:
Your surface wave probe is  your Tesla coil.The load of your  Tx or Amplifier  or  your transmatch  is  your primary winding of Tesla  coil The secondary of your Tesla coil must be grounded

The parameters of  Tesla coil  for 2200m  are given here.
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=367 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=367)

use 1.8MHz and  remember that it is 1600m and not 2200m
as indicated on the picture .
is  easy to re-tune 
The  lower the  frequency the   more winds is required.
the  higher the  frequency the  less winds is required

At minimum of 54ft you need to have another Tesla coil acting  as a  receiver.
the distance  can be greater  but not smaller than that

]top capacitor must!!! have means of  being adjusted in elevation measured from the ground!!
Structure  of  the mast , must be made   from dielectric e.g PCV sliding telescoping   UP/DOWN

Another means of  height  change of  Top  Capacitor is to hung it on   a  balloon  or between  to  masts.  used  to  elevate the Top Capacitor.
The rope used to lift the Top Capacitor UP    can   not be made  from  wire or "dielectric".  it must be natural    string or  thin  rope.

   

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 05:09:30 AM
Top capacitor must  be quite large  at best.
to  prevent  sparks.
It can look like Doughnut  .
The minimum distance of Top Capacitor from the  ground  is 4x its diameter.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2019, 05:12:31 AM
Adjustment of  distance from  ground of Top Capacitor is  the  most important
factor of  launching Zenneck Surface wave  .

AFTER SUCCESSFUL test  using   power  transfer  in  the  interface in form  of  Zenneck  Surface wave
the experimenter is ready to step 2
-extracting energy (FE) from Schumann  waveguide. 

Wesley
I don't take  any responsibility for your action.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 08, 2019, 07:23:20 PM
Top Capacitor of Tx

1. It is the structure that is   adjusted in elevation / extended  in height
(the measurement from base to top).

2. It has shape  of preferred   head of  the mushroom..
It can be  however  done from  aluminum "air tube"
Flexible Aluminium Air Ducting Ventilation Accessory (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flexible-Aluminium-Air-Ducting-Ventilation-Accessory-Alloy-Vent-Tube-Hose-Duct-/141484081812)
also called : Hose Application: Duct / Exhaust
picture 1

3.It's capacitance can be increased  by internal mechanism of
tube inside of  another tube  with  air  or  Teflon dielectric.
However  other means are allowed by  sliding  piece  of  inner tubing/s
the  effect of such is capacitance match  to desired F of resonance. (picture 1b)

4. Viziv used  on  the  top of  the doughnut additional half semi spherical  structure  .
To increase capacitance  nad manipulate with capacitive reactance of Top Capacitor

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 08, 2019, 08:17:05 PM
Position of  Top Capacitor:

Since Viziv tower is fixed there is no way  to change  potion of Top capacitor in Vertical elevation.
We  may assume that there is whole  mechanism   inside of the  space of 
Top  Capacitor to change capacitance of  the  Top Capacitor.

The  Umbrella /(Ambrela) inside of  space  above the  torus.
Wesley


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 08, 2019, 09:11:54 PM
Next subject to  discuss is :
cylindrical waves

1.- point source
2.  line source
3.  wave front
4.  cylindrical wave behavior in Near Field

This is crucial information to  understand   How Surface wave  is  created in the interface Earth/Air
 I will finish  this article later.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 08, 2019, 09:55:11 PM
Cylindrical Wave :
Electric field  is perpendicular  to the direction of propagation  and is  gradually  decreasing   with  the distance from Tesla  tower.
Line source    must be  cylindrical  - so is Tesla coil
Magnetic field is   at 90 degrees  to electric field  and fits into  the Earth/ air  area called   -  interface.
This   is our  TM  mode.   

Note:
picture 3 is showing Cylindrical Wave
in  medium - Air.
There are two views  the  top one  is at slight tilt.
The  lower on e  is  at YZ coordinates.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 10, 2019, 02:53:05 PM

https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4 (https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4)  dielectric excitation . 
Wesley :
the  bottom  line is  that Pastukhov method
- misinterprets the phenomena
 

Viziv is using phase shift (time delay) to compensate for wave tilt so they can get physical wave at precise angle (brewster angle LoL).

 polarization  of the single TEM wave to  see it   in TM  mode and   in interface.

- Top Capacitor  of that ( single) HV winding of Tesla coil produces Standing Wave
- Vertical elevation  of  that Top  Capacitor is making the  trick
 to receive  that surface  wave is need  another Tesla coil  54 foot in the distance or more  from
the  first one.
that  Tesla  Coil can( but doesn't have to)  look like  Tx ( the transmitting  Tesla   Coil)
And (for    the  moment)  nothing more.

 
I have never came across anything about surface wave, em wave polarization , time delay of a wave
while reading about Tesla or his work.
Jonathan Zenneck  made it known in 1901.
Sommerfeld added to it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Zenneck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Zenneck)
http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_039.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/teslafaq/q&a_039.htm)

Tesla would find it .  but he was  cut short with money .
-Marconi in Bolinas Ca in 1921/4 was restricted by ( government decision with use of RCA )


 
They all claim he used EM wave ( Radio wave ) for transfer of energy, but all his patents state otherwise .
Then you can read in his colorado springs notes that he used non radiating wave .
Can you give me   link to  the  exact quote and page saying  it?


Scottish physicist Sir David Brewster (1781–1868)
Brewster, David (1815). "On the laws which regulate the polarisation of light by reflexion from transparent bodies".
Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London.
This guy did his research  years before Tesla so Tesla must know this and came up with idea of
using this polarization not only for light waves but for EM too.
So why all  publications talk about ground currents (NORTON) and non of them mention Zenneck surface wave.
Sommerfeld, Arnold, "Uber die Ausbreitung der Wellen in der Drahtlosen Telegraphie"
(Tr. The Propagation of Waves in Wireless Telegraphy) 1909
Zenneck, Jonathan, "Über die Fortpflanzung ebener elektromagnetischer Wellen längs einer ebenen Leiterfläche und ihre Beziehung zur drahtlosen Telegraphie"
(Tr. "About the propagation of electromagnetic plane waves along a conductor plane and their relationship to wireless telegraphy") 1907
At Colorado Springs, in May 1899, Tesla, several of his assistants, and a local contractor commenced the construction of T
esla's laboratory shortly after arriving in Colorado Springs, Colorado

That means Tesla did it a decade before first theoretical paper has been published. Where we can find information related to this research.
Is it suppressed, lost , or it never happen.




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 10, 2019, 03:05:39 PM
 
.. we know he used Zenneck surface wave and Interface was and still is located between earth and air underneath our feet .
His first patent talked about and experimentally proved possibility of wireless energy transfer via upper strata of earths atmosphere.
What if Wesley is looking at wrong interface. Air earth interface works fine for Viziv, but all static charges are up in the air.
Its only different approach to a problem of extracting free energy that has its source at our SUN.
Maybe this is why Vizin is transferring electrical energy and not tapping in to  unlimited source of energy.
 

No I'm  not looking at  wrong  interface  .
but instead   I'm looking  only at one side of  Schumann Waveguide   that is  The Earth  surface
with  air  on the  top of it.
It just happened that such  structure  is  an interface for TEM  that when properly polarized  works  in  TM mode   and can 
in   result be seen  in  that interface  an  be named as surface wave  that was  recognized as   Zenneck wave.
So if you take  any waveguide it has
-shape (length/ width)
The  special  form of guiding is provided  in the  interface.
But in general:
- waveguides have walls .Schumann waveguide  walls are ionosphere and earth.
  And earth is at the same  time a part of interface Air/ Earth
-  so interfaces  in  our case are  two different mediums placed together FACE TO  FACE
 having different dielectric properties such as air and  earth
where:
-Air is non-conductive  medium
-Earth is   conductive but lossy medium
To have working interface  it is mandatory  to  have  one of  the  mediums to be conductive.
That expressions applies mostly  only  to  our  case  of J  Corum/ Zenneck/ Summerfield /Viziv/ Texzon/..
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Going back to my questions about dielectric and Wesleys experiment .
I would really  appreciate Your input, Is flyback any good or its just another dead end im running in to.
Any suggestions how test my flyback using signal generator and driving 2 transistors 90degree phase delay  ?
Im thinking about flyback driver circuit because its running at resonant frequency,
and phase shifter circuit to feed 90degree input for second transistor. 
Coax is good time delay but at high frequency and will not work for my
flyback.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXZ9C914S0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXZ9C914S0) Phase shift circuit im considering at the moment.
Thank You
Any  transformer  can be driven  at its  own resonant frequency.
that includes
-transformers with ferrite core 
-air transformers as Tesla coil.
-any two or more coils at any shape and number of winds   coupled in Near Field.
-any "neon"HV   transformers


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 10, 2019, 06:49:37 PM
SURFACE WAVES
AND THE‘CRUCIAL PROPAGATION EXPERIMENT
by K.L. Corum, Brigadier General (Ret.) M.W. Miller, Ph.D,and J.F. Corum, Ph.D.Texzon Technologies, LLC
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf

In 1908 Jonathan Zenneck  formulated  his mathematical  explanation supporting  existence of surface waves known as Zenneck Wave.
Tesla must know  about it   but since  he  was cut with finances by JP  Morgan in 1897  ,he concentrated on  building his
Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917)

In his  time K. Norton  discovered   radiative ground wave  known as the Norton surface wave.
Quote
Ground wave refers to the propagation of radio waves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_propagation) parallel to and adjacent
to the surface of the Earth, following the curvature of the Earth. 
This radiative ground wave is known as the Norton surface wave
.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave)
https://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/quantum_theory_waves/index.html (https://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/quantum_theory_waves/index.html)

As oppose to :
Radiative Norton wave  the  Zenneck wave is:
non-radiative
 1979 Hill and Wait analytically found an aperture distribution that excites a pure Zenneck surface  wave  with no  radiation  field.

Note: no radiation  field means, it does not radiate in  air  above the earth  in Far Field
It is the effect of    cylindrical wave in Near Field around cylindrical   antenna  ( Tesla  Tower)and its electrical field is
Quote
evanescent (exponentially decreasing) in the +z-direction.

From that time but based on today's knowledge we call it :
Quote
no Hertzian radiation or Norton ground-wave radiation whatsoever
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I need to mention here  that Marconi was trying to send electrical energy  using earth in Bolinas California in 1913.
https://youtu.be/r3XVRd-G56k?t=655 (https://youtu.be/r3XVRd-G56k?t=655)
Please take  this video  as  asserting but not explaining.
However in:
https://youtu.be/r3XVRd-G56k?t=1002 (https://youtu.be/r3XVRd-G56k?t=1002)
Marconi schematic
Marconi was screwed  by newly formed  RCA "
in 1921 -. business in Bolinas was closed  due to RCA action.
Marconi started to sue  US government of illegal use of his patent during 1WW.
After death   of Tesla,  US Government revoked  patent  rights  of  Marconi  and gave it to Tesla who was dead in  this  time.
US was freed  from  paying any money  to Marconi.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 11, 2019, 02:25:38 AM
speedy125
Surface Electromagnetic Waves
http://www.rroij.com/open-access/surface-electromagnetic-waves.php?aid=87345 (http://www.rroij.com/open-access/surface-electromagnetic-waves.php?aid=87345)

https://gradestack.com/Electromagnetic-Field/Transmission-Lines/Transmission-Line-Modes/19383-3931-38714-study-wtw (https://gradestack.com/Electromagnetic-Field/Transmission-Lines/Transmission-Line-Modes/19383-3931-38714-study-wtw)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)

______________________________________________________________________________________________________


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 11, 2019, 03:13:02 PM
links that likely will  be used  in this set of posts.
1.       Transmission Line Modes
https://gradestack.com/Electromagnetic-Field/Transmission-Lines/Transmission-Line-Modes/19383-3931-38714-study-wtw (https://gradestack.com/Electromagnetic-Field/Transmission-Lines/Transmission-Line-Modes/19383-3931-38714-study-wtw)
2.       Model FIM-71 portable, laboratory quality Field Strength Meter
https://testequipment.center/Product_Documents/Potomac-Instruments-FIM-71-Specifications-32D80.pdf (https://testequipment.center/Product_Documents/Potomac-Instruments-FIM-71-Specifications-32D80.pdf)
3.        Basic Tesla's Experiments (Part 7) -  Standing Wave, Node, Reflection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkMndCsNRQU&t=1s)
4.        Milford TX Tesla Tower Close Up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtPNR4T6FI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtPNR4T6FI)
5.       1 - Class 12 - Physics - Wave Optics - Wave front and Huygens’s principle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_2OOWjjes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk_2OOWjjes)
6.      2_2 Electric Field Superpostion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMOGXwR4HAs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMOGXwR4HAs)
7.     Normal (geometry)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_(geometry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_(geometry))
8.     Wavefront
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavefront (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavefront)
9.     3.6 Plane Wave Polarization
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AcKIcF7VY&t=50s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AcKIcF7VY&t=50s)
10.  open and shorted slow wave  helical resonators   
no link  yet
11.   Re: slow-wave helical resonator
https://www.pupman.com/listarchives/2002/August/msg00303.html (https://www.pupman.com/listarchives/2002/August/msg00303.html)
12.   Green's functions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-riPW1yt_fA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-riPW1yt_fA)
13.   point of charge / line of charge......point source/ line source
no link  yet

Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 12, 2019, 01:47:16 AM
14.     Slow Wave Helical Resonator -Corum 
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla's_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf (http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla's_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf)
15.     RF coils, helical resonators and voltage magnification … -Corum
https://hamwaves.com/inductance/doc/corum.2001.pdf (https://hamwaves.com/inductance/doc/corum.2001.pdf)
16.    The real science of non-Hertzian waves (by Paul  Nicholson)
http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/Non-Herzian_Waves.html (http://www.capturedlightning.com/frames/Non-Herzian_Waves.html)

https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf (https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on July 13, 2019, 03:03:15 AM
Any word on grounding.
Do we need a long rod ?
Is it important to keep it all ( top load , coil , ground rod) in one vertical straight line??
Thank You
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: saturnio on July 16, 2019, 03:29:46 AM
"Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media"
http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology (http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology)

Infinite Energy Magazine, ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy_(magazine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy_(magazine))
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 16, 2019, 09:13:57 PM
Some links and quotes  as example: 
https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Members/IRIANNUAL2016.pdf (https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Members/IRIANNUAL2016.pdf)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on July 17, 2019, 10:43:23 AM
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0cdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.14&d=HASH0cf796676d1abfb3fa69e6.6.3&gt=1
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 17, 2019, 01:48:21 PM
At first : Wesley, you can ever delete my poste  !
I like and respect you lancaIV, but some of posting of  anyone, not related close, enough will be removed, especially when
something must go....for others to  see  better.
Please contribute for benefit of others
but  someone must clean the space and keep  it organized .
This place is not a chat room  ,
it is my notebook with public access, only the most  vital information should be hold here.
and your or mine temporary mood  is not important to be preserved.
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on July 17, 2019, 03:31:25 PM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US645576A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US645576A/en)
In figure B ~ 30000 - 35000 feets lenght
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A#)
figure 11: rectangular Tesla coil
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson)
1919 document-text
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuenergy.org%2Fgewinnung-und-verwertung-der-atmospharischen-elektrizitat-deutsch%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuenergy.org%2Fgewinnung-und-verwertung-der-atmospharischen-elektrizitat-deutsch%2F)
" non-ionizing radiation" as source for  "thermal-ionizing radiation effect" Diathermie pseudo-HF by ELF
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 19, 2019, 07:49:24 PM
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0cdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.14&d=HASH0cf796676d1abfb3fa69e6.6.3&gt=1 (http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0cdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.14&d=HASH0cf796676d1abfb3fa69e6.6.3&gt=1)
T.E. Bearden is first part of the link.I"ll place  it  in  garbage can.
New Energy Technology (PACE, 1990 just forget it - business as usual  but with long hands No respectable organization   would  disorient  purposely a reader unless is good for  the business.
 
At the same page  we see referral of  J Corum
that should not be  mistaken with  the first part it has nothing to do  with it.
For these who are  confused:

Quote
A scalar wave is a purported type of electromagnetic (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Electromagnetism) wave that works outside physics (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Physics) as we know it.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave (https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave)
So only Corum  part of the article is valuable and entertaining.
Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 19, 2019, 08:58:53 PM
thank you for the links:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A#)
figure 11: rectangular Tesla coil

patent  speculates around regular electrostatic motor. and fig 11  is the stator part of such  motor.

 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson)
1919 document-text

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuenergy.org%2Fgewinnung-und-verwertung-der-atmospharischen-elektrizitat-deutsch%2F (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuenergy.org%2Fgewinnung-und-verwertung-der-atmospharischen-elektrizitat-deutsch%2F)
" non-ionizing radiation" as source for  "thermal-ionizing radiation effect" Diathermie pseudo-HF by ELF

interesting but not applicable  and  that is why  was  not commercialized
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2019, 05:06:43 AM
One  of Tesla coil assembly  is   magnifier.
J. Corum from Viziv
made  wholeinvestigative testing  based  on original Tesla's Colorado  Springs diary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil)
Extra Coil
Quote
Three coil, triple-resonant, or magnifier circuits - These are circuits with three coils, based on Tesla's "magnifying transmitter"
circuit which he began experimenting with sometime before 1898 and installed in his Colorado Springs lab 1899-1900, and patented in 1902.
[36] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil#cite_note-Patent1119732-36)[37] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil#cite_note-Sarkar2-37)[38] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil#cite_note-Reed-38) They consist of a two coil air-core step-up transformer similar to the Tesla transformer, with the secondary connected to a third
coil not magnetically coupled to the others, called the "extra" or "resonator" coil, which is series-fed and resonates with its own capacitance.
The presence of three energy-storing tank circuits (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tank_circuit) gives this circuit more complicated resonant behavior. It is the subject of research,
but has been used in few practical applications.
the  picture of such assembly  is   here:
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.jpg (http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.jpg)
The same article  makes us understand how  to calculate easy  way
Low  Frequency assembly

called: multiple resonance networks operated as Tesla coil like devicesgiving  us
(or  multiple resonance network with distributed load capacitance)
and  that is the Tesla  Extra coil function
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.html (http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.html)
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf

Important  is  to understand  tuning of Tesla Coil to  resonance is critical facor
when dealing with
Viziv energy transfer from point A to point B using earth/air interfacecalled interface.as it is shown  here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simple_SSTC.gif (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simple_SSTC.gif)
and here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Tesla-coil_eq.gif/260px-Tesla-coil_eq.gif (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Tesla-coil_eq.gif/260px-Tesla-coil_eq.gif)
complex of  capacitive  reactive series and parallel LC circuts could  b e found when equivalent circuit of Tesla Coil is  analyzed.
all  of that can be approximated  to one single capacitive reactive C2:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Tesla_coil_circuit.svg/500px-Tesla_coil_circuit.svg.png (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Tesla_coil_circuit.svg/500px-Tesla_coil_circuit.svg.png)Wesley



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2019, 05:09:28 AM

http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum_bib.htm (http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum_bib.htm)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2019, 05:15:34 AM
 for your  entertainment:
https://steemit.com/science/@mage00000/tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-1-introduction (https://steemit.com/science/@mage00000/tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-1-introduction)
https://steemit.com/science/@mage00000/tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-2-high-voltage-generation (https://steemit.com/science/@mage00000/tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-2-high-voltage-generation)
https://steemit.com/history/@mage00000/the-discovery-of-tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-3 (https://steemit.com/history/@mage00000/the-discovery-of-tesla-s-magnifying-transmitter-part-3)

Wesley 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 20, 2019, 05:37:11 AM
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum)
2014 was the year of dreams to Corum brothers
.https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=183 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=183)
2019 pile of patents have been  issued 
2019 first intercontinental A  to B energy  transfer was announced as  to happen till  the end  of  the year.
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=560 (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=560)

Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on July 21, 2019, 12:30:41 PM
There are a lot of patents now
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 22, 2019, 02:21:12 AM
US20180259399A1
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180259399A1/en?oq=US20180259399+A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180259399A1/en?oq=US20180259399+A1)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: TinselKoala on July 22, 2019, 04:20:07 AM
Wesley, do you have an XRF (xray fluorescence spectrograph) machine in your lab? I ask because a friend of ours has an hypothesis about possible elemental transmutation under certain conditions of low pressure, high voltage and high frequency. We would like to test some small samples before and after exposure to the experimental regimen.

I have one available to me but it would involve a 200 mile round trip for me to use it. Much simpler if you have one.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 22, 2019, 04:46:57 AM
Yes  I have
https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8 (https://youtu.be/CQ3gPFfgDp8)

It is university grade  lab EDXRF
X-ray fluorescence (XRF) with vacuum
SEIKO
SEA 5120
from Sodium to Uranium
read on line  about it.
It is not so  much published as the device was crazy expensive.
Indeed ...
but  not for me...

-it operates on LN2.
My Liquid nitrogen  line farm,   is  disconnected now   due  to  my electron  microscope LEO 435VE
exchanging place with old scanning microscope
So  the  place  is a  mess now.
so I need  to  find if  the  suitable  grade    of LN2 is  around to be delivered
in my area  into my  dewar .

There is also another  limitation.
The sample must  be tested before  transmutation and  than  after that.
-or  two   samples  of  the  same origin as  mentioned above must  be  send to me .
the rest needs to be  discussed  on  PM.

===============================
There is  much older one and lower number model with flap up-down  chamber
SEA2110
Much smaller  chamber   this  thing is pretty accurate but  I would call it Jewellery grade  not academic grade.   
https://www.ebay.com/itm/XRF-Gold-Tester-Seiko-SEA2110-x-ray-fluorescence-for-Precious-Metal-Assay/283495312416?hash=item4201a32c20:g:fdsAAOSwhI1a9bVm (https://www.ebay.com/itm/XRF-Gold-Tester-Seiko-SEA2110-x-ray-fluorescence-for-Precious-Metal-Assay/283495312416?hash=item4201a32c20:g:fdsAAOSwhI1a9bVm)
compare  pictures with  my video.

another option  is to  use Scanning  Electron Microscope - it does  the  same  , even better.
Well not always

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 23, 2019, 06:12:34 PM
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1903.10294 (https://arxiv.org/pdf/1903.10294)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on July 23, 2019, 06:55:11 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_wave (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theta_wave)
and Dr. Kazumi Masaki research and developments ( sender/emissor and receiver )

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=Theta&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=Theta&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=)
This frequency range has many possibilities
"Virtual teacher" in "neurophone style" ( ultra- learning time saving and memory quality increase)
https://www.google.com/search?q=neurophone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m

and later "neuro-scan" as mind reader and to " 4d robot cloud"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 25, 2019, 03:29:45 AM
Experimental and Theoretical Realization of ZenneckWave-based Non-Radiative,
Non-Coupled Wireless Power Transmission

Sai Kiran Oruganti,
Jagannath Malik,
Jongwon Lee,
Woojin Park,
Bonyoung Lee,
Seoktae Seo,
Dipra Paul,
Haksun Kim,
Thomas Thundat
and Franklin Bien.

Ulsan National Institute of Science and Technology, Republic of Korea
University at Buffalo, New York, USA
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1903.10294.pdf

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 03, 2019, 08:21:02 PM
Radioactive SparkGap

https://youtu.be/bTyg9hKEooM
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 13, 2019, 06:19:23 PM
What can be the parameters of such a filter? Frequency is approximately 1 GHz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 15, 2019, 07:42:45 PM
http://www.pe1rki.com/23cmfilters.html (http://www.pe1rki.com/23cmfilters.html)


Quote
attenuation on 950mhz 60db, on 1800mhz 80db and on the second harmonic 55db.
 bandpass characteristic for atv tuned is about 0.2-0.25db loss in passband.
 tuned to 1296mhz and with sma connectors i can go a little below 0.2db.
 
 this filter is already in use at many many ssb stations around the world.

 i also have a filter that filters 950 and 1800mhz a bit worse but will have 0.15db loss.
 i remember i made this filter only once but i lost its specs but it was very low loss.

 for tuning filters i use a very expensive vector network analyzer from hewlett packard.
 rigol and signal hounds and simular network analyzer equipment do not come close to
 the accuracy of hp. so beware, do not retune my filters, you can actualy make it worse without knowing it.
 i have even seen several times that the rigol actualy shows a filter making gain instead of loss...

Cavity Filters. Cavity filters are one of many types of Radio Frequency (RF) filters, and are one of the fundamental building blocks of modern communications systems.

http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=What_is_a_cavity_filter%3F
 (http://www.amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php?title=What_is_a_cavity_filter%3F)https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=489&v=QavRKwectm4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=489&v=QavRKwectm4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=CBx5Xz1v0J4
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=CBx5Xz1v0J4)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM2ltv7x0zA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLMziyM7EgQ



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 15, 2019, 07:58:08 PM
wonderful. :) And then my compatriots got water in their mouths. are silent.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 19, 2019, 05:12:12 AM
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ)
Free Energy   extraction from Schumann waveguide


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 21, 2019, 02:45:39 AM
Information  about coil  I used as transmitter is here
second picture  method of   tuning Tx to create surface wave:
correction- changing elevation of sphere  adjust wave tilt angle  and polarization in   respect to earth air interface
more is here- https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=601

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 23, 2019, 11:53:25 PM

1.Nice visualization of standing wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=fz-jJahvwt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=fz-jJahvwt8)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 25, 2019, 04:24:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=fz-jJahvwt8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=fz-jJahvwt8)
in regards 
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=776 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=776)
shown  exactly  in  this  3 minutes   of my video
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=931 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=931)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 25, 2019, 04:57:30 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances

Description.  In the normal mode descriptions of Schumann resonances, the fundamental mode is a standing wave in the Earth–ionosphere cavity with a wavelength equal to the circumference of the Earth.

Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 25, 2019, 06:49:29 PM
Kapanadze uses a very simple rule and there is no special wave or special resonance.
The whole process is to understand why there is earth grounding in the cable and why there is electricity!
Because the current actually flows with it (cable). Ask yourself why and understand the principle.
It is not out of this world and everything is real.

hint: when will electricity come from earth?
this is the principle of Kapanadze and its unlimited device power.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 25, 2019, 09:05:20 PM
When the electric charge goes to the ground, and when from the ground.

Anyone who understands this will know how the Kapanadze device works.
There is nothing special beyond this dependence.

The only difficulty is to complete this task correctly.

This is not Schumann resonances, Zenneck etc. This is my opinion and I want to mislead anyone.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 25, 2019, 10:11:56 PM
When the electric charge goes to the ground, and when from the ground.
than  what?
Explain whole  process please
What this "electric charge"  comes  from?
What is the  mechanism of energy transfer?
What is the  entire  path  into  the  Tariel  Kapanadze receiver?

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 25, 2019, 10:38:34 PM
As you can see, there are not many people who want to do it, but who want to get it on their plate.

Why is it like that ?

Probably most have lost hope that it is possible and only look here and waiting for publication.
I am sorry but I will not write about this principle beyond what I wrote.
Someone doesn't care.
Only you are interested and persistent for a long time.
You're not waiting just looking for a solution like me.
Energy transfer makes no sense within the home.
The only need is a free energy generator.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Utopia Now on August 26, 2019, 02:03:58 PM
Hallo r2fpl and stivep  I think there are more people interested in discovering how it works .

I am allready many years enthousiast  about Kapanadze and Donald Smith and Akula, Andrian Guschka etc .
I am doing small test`s  and  i would Love to get some more information  .. I think this Planet will be happy  to see more of this .

Yeahhh r2fpl   I Think you will make  many more people happy  not only stivep, Wesley  or me or your self  ..  but  many more people on this Planet  will benefit from what  you allready  discovered .

Here is some of the things I did over time to gather and share information  to help solve  some parts of the puzzle maybe.
My Prezi presentations with lots of info and links

https://prezi.com/dp7j0ydwqmu-/don-smith-bucking-coil/    and

https://prezi.com/fiwgtl78it85/donz-device/

And some small video`s   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uDusLU5IPQ

I am Happy,   I would Love to learn  more  .

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 26, 2019, 03:41:27 PM
Hallo r2fpl and stivep  I think there are more people interested in discovering how it works .

I am allready many years enthousiast  about Kapanadze and Donald Smith and Akula, Andrian Guschka etc .
I am doing small test`s  and  i would Love to get some more information  .. I think this Planet will be happy  to see more of this .

Yeahhh r2fpl   I Think you will make  many more people happy  not only stivep, Wesley  or me or your self  ..  but  many more people on this Planet  will benefit from what  you allready  discovered .

Here is some of the things I did over time to gather and share information  to help solve  some parts of the puzzle maybe.
My Prezi presentations with lots of info and links

https://prezi.com/dp7j0ydwqmu-/don-smith-bucking-coil/ (https://prezi.com/dp7j0ydwqmu-/don-smith-bucking-coil/)    and

https://prezi.com/fiwgtl78it85/donz-device/ (https://prezi.com/fiwgtl78it85/donz-device/)

And some small video`s   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uDusLU5IPQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uDusLU5IPQ)

I am Happy,   I would Love to learn  more  .
hi,
I just seen the provided youtube video but the waveform don't look impressive.
I have previously uploaded a video of mine in youtube where i produce a waveform which is rarely seen using just kapanadze coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op9KVhxjhps (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op9KVhxjhps)
Please do read expanded youtube description starting from recent  3x PLL multiplier video.I am currently extremely busy with multiple projects at the moment and wasn't free to touch my setup for few weeks now.
Please don't ask me questions now until my next upcoming final video on kapanadze.Thanks for understanding. 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: clearuniverse on August 26, 2019, 03:50:39 PM
so where  is  the "trick" of activation?
...

Wesley

There is no any trick.
Just read this and accept reality ;-)
(warning !!! Polish language)
http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-Tesla
http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-100-lecie.pdf
http://www.cft.edu.pl/cft_work/en/getfile.html,file-20190628222514-b3d532bf78ce3e810444f8e6ae6ec15d18b0f4fa.pdf
http://www.czasopisma.pan.pl/Content/112630/PDF/062-065%20kulak_pol.pdf

You can even ask these scientists for an update in the context of the Viziv Milford Tower.

BR
Clearuniverse
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 26, 2019, 04:21:47 PM
I'm sorry I had to write you back.
This is the effect of growth, I think. I had the same effect. There is probably nothing more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on August 26, 2019, 05:02:57 PM
I'm sorry I had to write you back.
This is the effect of growth, I think. I had the same effect. There is probably nothing more.
hi r2fpl,
It's nearly 11pm here.
The pll multiplier circuit did reveal that i was using wrong capacitor value 100nf at kapanadze output hence it was lowered to 20nf.Akula was using 5nf after the line filter maybe due to the capacitance at the input from his Power supply unit.
Pll isn't part of the final demo since i was using a jumper selection and will be sticking at divide by 3.
My old experiment done around 1 year using AKula layout gave me around "82khz sine wave" but circuit was operating at around 9khz.The amplitude was mere 2Vpp after using interrupter circuit at high voltage around 4.5Kvpp ...5Kvpp.If hv is removed it revert back to parametric state divide by 3 of L/C resonance.
Back then i was using 100nf at the kapanadze output.I gave up back then.
This upcoming experiment once i am available will be the final attempt with the provide layout shown in youtube.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 26, 2019, 07:22:54 PM
hi r2fpl,
It's nearly 11pm here.
The pll multiplier circuit did reveal that i was using wrong capacitor value 100nf at kapanadze output hence it was lowered to 20nf.Akula was using 5nf after the line filter maybe due to the capacitance at the input from his Power supply unit.
Pll isn't part of the final demo since i was using a jumper selection and will be sticking at divide by 3.
My old experiment done around 1 year using AKula layout gave me around "82khz sine wave" but circuit was operating at around 9khz.The amplitude was mere 2Vpp after using interrupter circuit at high voltage around 4.5Kvpp ...5Kvpp.If hv is removed it revert back to parametric state divide by 3 of L/C resonance.
Back then i was using 100nf at the kapanadze output.I gave up back then.
This upcoming experiment once i am available will be the final attempt with the provide layout shown in youtube.

It's hard for me to accept that Kapanadze needed an oscilloscope. As you can see, you have never seen anything like that in the movies. Of course he might have had an oscilloscope.

My analysis came to understand what is happening on the ground wire.
See this video again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xUe62nWtA&t=758s

There is a measurement through the clamp and there is 25A there.
Now we know that the current flows on this cable.

Find the moment in the movie when it uses two different places where it connects to the ground and you will understand that grounding has changed something.
If it changed the resistance by 1ohm nothing would happen but it would have to change for a greater value. The conclusion is that they are not standing waves. Of course you can say that he used 'feedback' to compensate them but this is not true because the bulbs were no longer 5kW! See: first start = all bulbs are on, ground change = only a few are on.
I think it is very important to correctly understand why this is happening.
To make this device he needed nothing more than a multimeter.




...All these are just my opinions.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: MasterPlaster on August 26, 2019, 08:05:33 PM
Strangely, indepedant of this thread I have been thinking about the burial of the radiator.We are assuming "Earth" is "Earth". I have not seen anywhere where attention is given to the depth of the object in the ground.Also I wonder if the wire attached to the radiator was insulated. To me it appears there are other dynamics involved butnote that where the video is being shot  appears quite dry and they have to keep pooring water in the hole.
I have a gut feeling that if a lump of metal is burried and an insulated cable is attached to it, it would act differently to one with uninsulated cable. I can not do any experiments myself as I only have one functional arm.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 26, 2019, 09:56:24 PM
Strangely, indepedant of this thread I have been thinking about the burial of the radiator.We are assuming "Earth" is "Earth". I have not seen anywhere where attention is given to the depth of the object in the ground.Also I wonder if the wire attached to the radiator was insulated. To me it appears there are other dynamics involved butnote that where the video is being shot  appears quite dry and they have to keep pooring water in the hole.
I have a gut feeling that if a lump of metal is burried and an insulated cable is attached to it, it would act differently to one with uninsulated cable. I can not do any experiments myself as I only have one functional arm.

In this case, contact with earth and metal is obviously required for the version I am thinking of.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 26, 2019, 10:10:10 PM
The film has two different grounding locations: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4xUe62nWtA
1.water pipe
2.car radiator

the difference in these places gives a hint about why grounding is needed. We have two options:

a) energy goes to earth
b) energy comes from the earth

Both of these points are possible but what do we know about the differences?

(a) clamp meter = 25A in place to earth so the circuit would have to be closed to earth! but it is not so unless Kapnadze has deceived us.
(b) is 25A justified? Yes of course. The question remains as possible. Possible ! and the circuit does not have to be closed.

This is the most important thing that everyone does not understand.

Does it meet all the dependencies we know from the accounts of witnesses, Kapanadze stories, patent, rules looking at movies, device power and Kapanadze's statement that the amount of energy is practically any in quantity - YES

... still this is only my point of view.



Wesley - I'm sorry if I interrupt your thread?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on August 27, 2019, 01:23:35 AM
Hello.
Im trying to build 1.8Mhz transmitter. I try to stick to slayer exciter circuit.
Question is :
I have small coil 0.5 inch diameter and approximately 1000 turns but i cant get it to work at all.
Many turns primary or just a few still not getting any hv.
 Is diameter too small?

Next question is :
If i use bigger coil that works fine and adjust its wire length for standing wave, resonance at 492 khz 500 feet wire length
how it will change the distance I need to keep between Tx and Rx?
Is that frequency dependent ? I am not going to use more than 80W. Top load is a toroid  30 inch diameter ( still need to calculate that) .
Mast is pvc and i should be able to get it up 6 to 18 feet.
Thx


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on August 27, 2019, 01:58:33 AM
Im sorry for oversized Photo.

Wesley did you use 1/4 wavelength resonator?
What about 3/4 of a wavelength ?
1.8 Mhz Is pretty short wave. I just try to avoid hard tunning, expensive mmc and all the interference coming with SGTC.
Thx 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 27, 2019, 01:32:27 PM
yes groot but  since it is a lot of coil to wind I used approach of Tariel Kapanadze
CW CCW  to  make coil  electrically smaller.
However this is not needed .
Remember HV TESLA COIL  MUST BE   in  VERTICAL!!! position


Effect  of energy    transfer between two Tesla coils at some distance is seen and recorded.
In Near Field   it behaves  as
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg537509/#msg537509 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg537509/#msg537509)
but
for experimenter operating  with  limited  tools, make sure that  you really extracting energy from  interface at best  there is need to be  63f =19m or more , from the Tesla coil acting as Tx   
Fluency in this first step is needed to  go to second  part of  it and that is  extracting energy from Schumann Waveguide
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10103452B2/en?oq=Patent+number:+10103452 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10103452B2/en?oq=Patent+number:+10103452)++
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 27, 2019, 01:40:35 PM
The configuration from above picture is also  not needed.
However it is closer to SR193 , Akula, Ruslan (yoke)
The  advice  is not to complicate things.
All of that WORKS!!!
there is not better or worse  solution   
The only advantage  comparing to classical   Tesla coil is SIZE!!
 Konfiguracja   jak na rysunku u  gory  nie wymagana.
Nie komplikowac sobie zycia.
Wszystkie  podane  konfuguracje  pracuja tak samo roznica jest tylko  w  rozmiarach
Cewka wys napiecia musi  byc pionowa!!
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 27, 2019, 01:51:07 PM
There is no any trick.
Just read this and accept reality ;-)
(warning !!! Polish language)
http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-Tesla (http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-Tesla)
http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-100-lecie.pdf (http://www.oa.uj.edu.pl/~koperski/work/Dwerniczek-www/Bieszczady_2008/prezentacje/AK_2008-100-lecie.pdf)
http://www.cft.edu.pl/cft_work/en/getfile.html,file-20190628222514-b3d532bf78ce3e810444f8e6ae6ec15d18b0f4fa.pdf (http://www.cft.edu.pl/cft_work/en/getfile.html,file-20190628222514-b3d532bf78ce3e810444f8e6ae6ec15d18b0f4fa.pdf)
http://www.czasopisma.pan.pl/Content/112630/PDF/062-065%20kulak_pol.pdf (http://www.czasopisma.pan.pl/Content/112630/PDF/062-065%20kulak_pol.pdf)
You can even ask these scientists for an update in the context of the Viziv Milford Tower.
BR
Clearuniverse
super dziekuje.
Very  good
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: clearuniverse on August 27, 2019, 03:11:45 PM
Another very actual knowledge about ULF/ELF science and Schumann resonance.

Language: English and Polish.
https://pub.igf.edu.pl/files/Pdf/Pubs/132.pdf

Nowadays You can't discover anything new without expensive test equipment and big knowledge about modern physics.

BR,
Clearuniverse
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 27, 2019, 07:47:07 PM
Another very actual knowledge about ULF/ELF science and Schumann resonance.
Language: English and Polish.
https://pub.igf.edu.pl/files/Pdf/Pubs/132.pdf

Quote
P polarization is commonly referred to as transverse-magnetic (TM), and has also been termed
pi-polarized or tangential plane polarized. S polarization is also called transverse-electric (TE),
as well as sigma-polarized or sagittal plane polarized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_(waves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_(waves))

Serdecznie dziekuje

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on August 29, 2019, 11:42:02 PM
so where  is  the "trick" of activation?
How  that can be done?
There are few ways  to go around.

One  of them is to take look at third order of  Schumann resonances
and realize that  60Hz is 3 times of that.

I think I said  to  much now :)
But I'm trying to  attract the  most  involved  brains  in  this forum


Note: that what makes upset some of opportunists  here 
Everything  published here prevents anyone  from 
any form of  patent  protection  in the future.
Everything  that I decided  to  publish  is  in public domain  and it is  the  information  with one purpose in mind .

Wesley
60 Hz /3 = 20 Hz. + " it must be vertical" hypo-/thesis  ! ?
Counter-design and concept, horizontal:
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=667647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en (http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=667647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en)
Inducing flux ( centrifugal)  / induced flux ( centipetal)


For some unknown :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Adolf+zielinski&IN=&CPC=&IC=
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 30, 2019, 04:32:44 AM
Quote
Ok ale Wesley powiedz nam skad sie bierze ta ekstra energia? jonosfera jakos wzmacnia te fale ktorymi strzelamy miedzy jonosfera a ziemia? jesli tak to dlaczego?
Ok but Wesley tell us from where the extra energy is coming from? is the ionosphere amplifying the waves we are shooting between ionosphere and the earth ? if so then why?

There  is no extra energy and  never was  any extra energy.
If  you take  your Tx and   connect your coaxial cable ( 50 Ohm transmission  line)  open or shorted at the end  you  have impedance mismatch.
Standing wave will be bouncing back and forth.
However if you now  connect 20 Ohm resistor or antenna  to the   free end  of that coaxial cable  than   part of this energy  will be dissipated  to this load.
That Standing  wave will be lesser of SWR mismatch    5:1, 3:1,  2:1 and so on...

The same is with standing wave    in Schumann   waveguide .
Part of that  energy can sink into  interface earth/air in  the  right conditions when wave  tilt angle and polarization is right.
All you  need  next is  to take device of Tariel  Kapanadze  = Tesla coil 
and  tune  it to that:
-Frequency  , 
-polarization 
-tilt angle.
-impedance


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Utopia Now on August 30, 2019, 09:42:45 AM
Hallo Lanca,  what is the original source of the    very interesting translation .

Quote
60 Hz /3 = 20 Hz. + " it must be vertical" hypo-/thesis  ! ?
Counter-design and concept, horizontal:
http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=FR&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=667647&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=fr&TRGLANG=en
Inducing flux ( centrifugal)  / induced flux ( centipetal)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on August 31, 2019, 12:57:48 PM
Hallo Lanca,  what is the original source of the    very interesting translation .
Historical up to 100 years back :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Marcel+meredieu&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Marcel+meredieu&CPC=&IC=)

Probably of similar interest :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Fr&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Danyel+beaupre&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=Fr&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Danyel+beaupre&CPC=&IC=)
Here special "Augenmerk(- samkeit) " : Resonateur electro-dynamique


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on August 31, 2019, 11:05:57 PM
If it helps someone:
http://jnaudin.online.fr/systemg/html/sysGtst2.htm
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 02, 2019, 03:51:23 AM
ACTIVATION:
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=1003 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=1003)

Faraday effect.  In physics, the Faraday effect or Faraday rotation is a magneto-optical phenomenon
—that is, an interaction between light and a magnetic field in a medium.
The Faraday effect causes a rotation of the plane of polarization which is linearly proportional to the component of the magnetic field in the direction of propagation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_rotation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_rotation)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday_effect)


We  are  stealing   from   the standing  wave some energy due  to partial  impedance match.
That  is our   "irregularity", in comparison  to   regular  standing  wave   that has  no impedance  match and its energy is  trapped  in  this standing wave.
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=759 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=759)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 04, 2019, 07:49:06 PM
where does the potential difference appear on the electrodes of a heated vacuum diode?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 04, 2019, 08:42:35 PM
Cathode: This is the electrode that is heated and emits the electrons.
Anode:
This electrode in the vacuum tube or valve has a high potential to attract electrons from the cathode.
Grid: This is the valve electrode that has a variable potential and is used to control the flow of electrons between cathode and anode.
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/electronic_components/valves-tubes/what-is-a-tube-basics-tutorial.php (https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/electronic_components/valves-tubes/what-is-a-tube-basics-tutorial.php)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 05, 2019, 10:20:51 AM
no no. I connect no voltage to any electrode. Just warm the cathode and measure the voltage between the cathode and anode with a voltmeter.
 Edison has nothing to do with it.  ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 05, 2019, 08:01:11 PM
Anode:Target area: area of anodes struck by cathode electrons also called (focal track)
• Tube Current: number electrons flowing
from cathode to anode kVp
- on exposure
- measured in mA (milliamperes)

• Filament current: 3-6 A (amperes)
- mAs = number filament electrons
boiled off x time filament heated

When  you have   cathode at right temperature and no other voltage connected  than cloud  of electrons is  moving   to colder  area
or away  from the  filament.
only  when you connect any  measurement tool you have current   flowing by means of closed circuit  by that  device.
Internal  impedance of your  V meter  is determining current flow  and only
now when  you have  current  flow you have    potential difference.
Rather you  must have potential difference first or at the same time 

Quote
A potential difference is the energy per unit charge in an electrical circuit.
Potential difference must be measured between two points because it is generally impractical to measure the electrical potential of a single point. ...
Potential difference is commonly known as voltage because volts are the standard unit of measure for this quantity. It is also known historically as pressure and tension.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-potential-difference.htm
 (http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-potential-difference.htm)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_cathode
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 07, 2019, 06:59:51 PM
Well, here's a volt-ampere characteristic.
8mka-0.7v.
20mka-0.6v.
30mka-0.5v.
60mka-0.45v.
100mka-0.4v.
200mka-0.35v.
500mka-0.25v.
600mka-0.2v.
with load resistance 10mOhm
the voltage at the electrodes reaches 3v. !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 08, 2019, 04:21:38 AM
That is correct the higher the impedance( resistance) -  the higher is  the potential  difference  -  the  lower is the current.
However Power  dissipated on the load ( your meter)is the same.

Ohms law  for resistance instead  of impedance:
U= R x I


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on September 09, 2019, 07:13:31 AM
Hello, long time no type...
@Wesley
I have a few ideas that I'd like some feedback on... my parent's recently bought a new property and I've been re-looking at ideas I've seen. 

1.  The first was LED garden lights, using the ground as a single-wire-no-return conductor to remote coils and stepdowns to power LED lights for the drive path, and various... 1)
if There is a a large board with a lot of tuning forks that all resonate at the same frequency, doesn't that collecitively have more energy than none (although tuning forks would be unloaded,
whereas I'm putting LEDs on which would consume some of the energy)... 
I haven't really seen anyone progress with a distrubuted ground-based tesla system... have you?
---
Cieling fans...


There's also these bladeless fans (truly bladeless, working much like a tesla turbine)
https://exhalefans.com/ (https://exhalefans.com/)  they have a patent on it so... can't just produce these I suppose;
but the patent does seem overly specific, and with only slight modifications can fall outside it.


which then also reminded me to look into ' schauberger repulsine '
https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/viktor-schauberger-the-repulsine/ (https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/viktor-schauberger-the-repulsine/)
which instead of having a flat disk, has a disk with a sin-wave ripple in it.


considering the air flow of that fan though, the widening space as the radius increases,
I suppose (after refreshing on venturi effect) decreases the speed of the air moving laterally out as there's more space to fill, or
it would be lower pressure... higher tempurature I suppose.
But then, if instead of having flat disks, the disks were rippled, probably so each layer is 180 degrees out of
phase with the next so the chambers and gaps are smallest/largest instead of being parallel...
-------
Air Multiplier...
So then a variation of that that, if you look up 'bladeless fan' actually goes to dyson fan
(which was invented 30 years ago by toshiba apparently [size=78%]https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6377644/Dyson-fan-was-it-invented-30-years-ago.html (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/6377644/Dyson-fan-was-it-invented-30-years-ago.html)
but never produced.... )  which isn't actually bladeless at all, but appears to be on the surface.
It is mostly a ring, with a chamber that exits a 3mm slit (velocity increase) behind a coanda foil with an open center. 
In this open system, it is claimed to get 15x the airflow than the originating bladed fan... the narrow slit accelerates a
cylinderical air circle at 55mph(dyson) which then induces air in the center, as the coanda air foil expands the ring, creating a lower pressure,
which draws air in through the center of the ring.  Then additionall there's an entrainment of air on the outside as it draws air around the outside of the ring also...
(see really bad attached image...)
couldn't these be chained so a very small one x15 into one with a gap around the ouside into another pipe to another similar mulitplier.

Is this entirely useless because although the airflow is 15x it's at 1/15th the speed/pressure?
Being an open system, it's certainly not limited to a confinement...

Should be able to almost 3d print some really small replicas, and then just blow a little to start it, and it would sustain itself (should probably include a blocking off switch too...
-----------
And that brings me back to - so... can a current in a wire induce currents?  High frequency signals on the outside of a wire, and lower in the inside? 
(I don't know... I don't see a way to get from the above hydro(fluid)-dynamic system to electornics in this case....

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 09, 2019, 06:48:36 PM

forks if  they vibrate mechanically than we dealing with F of sound and  longitudinal wave.
If direction of  the longitudinal   wave  energy  having the same vector direction can become sum  of vectors  than  Yes.
the energy of forks  will be concentrated  after all of the losses.



Wesley   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on September 09, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
The tuning forks thing is to liken many  exact same Inductance Coils/Capactance Toploads in resonance with an original generator...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 10, 2019, 03:25:06 AM
Part #2

which then also reminded me to look into ' schauberger repulsine '
https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/viktor-schauberger-the-repulsine/ (https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/viktor-schauberger-the-repulsine/)
which instead of having a flat disk, has a disk with a sin-wave ripple in it.
Viktor Schauberger
https://youtu.be/yXPrLGUGZsw?t=2297 (https://youtu.be/yXPrLGUGZsw?t=2297)

1. Kelvin Generator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper)

2.  Resonance Structures/Assigning Formal Charge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYCzeFEAfjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYCzeFEAfjg)
conditions for resonance  look here  for 30  seconds only :-
https://youtu.be/fYCzeFEAfjg?t=410   (https://youtu.be/fYCzeFEAfjg?t=410)
comment
nitrogen  N in form of gas can be mechanically separated  from air.
2b.  .not  included in video  but helpful
carbon
Quote
Carbon (from Latin (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Latin%20language%20wikipedia): carbo "coal") is a chemical element (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Chemical%20element%20wikipedia) with
the symbol (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Symbol%20(chemistry)%20wikipedia) C and atomic number (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Atomic%20number%20wikipedia) 6. It is nonmetallic (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Nonmetal%20wikipedia) and tetravalent (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Tetravalence%20wikipedia)—making four electrons (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Electron%20wikipedia) available to form
covalent (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Covalent%20bond%20wikipedia) chemical bonds (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Chemical%20bond%20wikipedia). It belongs to group 14 of the periodic table.  Three isotopes (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Isotopes%20of%20carbon%20wikipedia) occur naturally,  C (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Carbon-12%20wikipedia) and  C (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Carbon-13%20wikipedia) being stable, while  C (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Carbon-14%20wikipedia) is a
radionuclide (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Radionuclide%20wikipedia), decaying with a half-life (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Half-life%20wikipedia) of about 5,730 years.  Carbon is one of the few elements known since antiquity (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Discoveries%20of%20the%20chemical%20elements%20wikipedia). 
Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Abundance%20of%20elements%20in%20Earth's%20crust%20wikipedia), and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Abundance%20of%20the%20chemical%20elements%20wikipedia) after
hydrogen (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Hydrogen%20wikipedia), helium (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Helium%20wikipedia), and oxygen (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Oxygen%20wikipedia). Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Organic%20compound%20wikipedia), and its unusual ability to form polymers (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Polymer%20wikipedia)
at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Earth%20wikipedia) enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Carbon-based%20life%20wikipedia).
https://www.bing.com/search?q=carbon&pc=MOZI&form=MOZCON (https://www.bing.com/search?q=carbon&pc=MOZI&form=MOZCON)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2019, 12:06:03 PM
Related Victor Schauberger Wirbel/Vortex/Swirl research :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=pax+pacific+impeller&oq=pax+pacific+impeller&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=pax+pacific+impeller&oq=pax+pacific+impeller&aqs=heirloom-srp)..
" impeller can mix 4 millions gallons of water using only 150 Watts "
"butterfly"- Chaos-theory : how much energy as Brownian movement this 150 Watt can stimulate in 4 million of gallons( gallon  : ancient portuguese mass : 3,785 Liter) of water


http://egm-international.com/index_co2.htm (http://egm-international.com/index_co2.htm)  Vortex-/Wirbel-Wandler/Converter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windhexe (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windhexe)
Used Substantives /Nomen + deklination( Nom.,Dativ,Genitiv,Akkusativ,Ablativ,Vokativ). and Infinitives/Verbum+ conjugation( 1.Pers., 2.Per.,... Singularis/Pluralis + termination : Praesens,Praeteritum,Perfect,Plusquamperfekt,Futur I ,Futur II):
tornar = to turn = tourner = drehen = winden= vertere  Tornado/Vertex or Vortex
Wind/Vento/Bento and Gesch-Wind-igkeit= velocity /velocidade
velare, velo= round/rotation velociped from um-runden/rotieren/to round rotare  ( per second/minute/hour/....) Rotor
stare=estar( todifferfrom: ser) =stehen= to stand Stator Still-Stand E-/e-/state as social Nation and as statistical Situation/ Moment

The first "Neuzeit-Akademie der Wissenschaften""Physics" father- language has been Latin,

 later German(Reichkanzlei zu Prag/Praha -Hochdeutsch

zu lithografische Institut/Duden-Hochdeutsch"= (hannoverische Welfen-)saechsisch=saxonic
 /French/ Anglosaxonic(= english, no scottish/irish/Walsh = celto-iberic languages)
Who can not read original publication language and only trust to given by 2nds/3rd their hand. and mind translations get probably "dimensional" basic idea reproduction errors  !


Our thinking and as translation tool: spoken and written language is 4 and more dimensional like the assimilated
4 and more dimensional algometric humbots digital mind for the human-free industrial production. !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on September 10, 2019, 10:57:57 PM
Re: 3. Vortex Tubes
These aren't either Shauberger or Dyson Air Mulitplier....
while interesting, Viktor Schauberger had literally curled tubes... which for certain capacitiies of fluid velocities reduce flow rates... but they require tuning to operate in a certain range...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on September 11, 2019, 07:45:23 AM
(although as I was considering it; certainly Vortex Tubes shouldn't be ignored)


So... they say dolphins and other fish will make vortex rings to eat... It didn't really click how that would work until I saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqATMuyAhPo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqATMuyAhPo) 'How To Build A Fire With A Plunger' is a terrible name for the video.
8:27 Intro to clip of fish doing so (https://youtu.be/AqATMuyAhPo?t=527)
11:31 goldfish crackers get caugnt, and swept along ring (https://youtu.be/AqATMuyAhPo?t=691)

Which... I'd suppose if there was small things like plankton they would get caught up also, and (perhaps) the vortex is slurped up like a straw full of micro food stuff

----
Vortex Rings... I saw a coanda quad copter today also; wasn't very good... I think there's something missing, either fins to divert the airflow circularly, or a lip, or ripple to cause rings to happen... but then I guess rings are self-stable and don't influence the outer flows very much
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on September 12, 2019, 12:51:55 AM
Vortex rings ~ Ampere-turns circum-venting/swirling the coil ( out-side / in-side) :
                                               peripetal and/or centrifugal movement

                                    Up to 990 KW output/ ? weight
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
                                    Up to 1 MW/ 27,2 Kg ( 60  lbs )
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.wonksmedia.com/dec.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiE7q_35MnkAhUpA2MBHWH2BGkQFjACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1bVcXEBtDsFIpTC0QlPVz2 (https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.wonksmedia.com/dec.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiE7q_35MnkAhUpA2MBHWH2BGkQFjACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1bVcXEBtDsFIpTC0QlPVz2)

                       
                   per KW installation : 10 Euros/KW private endconsumer/industrial consumer price  ?

                       1 MW x 10 Euros = 10000 Euros / device weight : 27,2 Kg =  367 Euros/Kg


 Imris generator production costs calculation( permalloy, copper, capacitor,...)  32 Euros/ Kg (2012 list prices)


By material value 10 Euros/KW( included well margin )  generator will become real  and an alternative to                                             
                                            1500 Euros/KW solar/Wind/Biogas "farming".



For me only known higher power-to-weight ratio devices :
         
                                   https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en)

And
                   https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=45&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=45&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A#)
                                                                                       +

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencealert.com/world-s-oldest-nobel-prize-winner-says-his-new-device-will-give-clean-cheap-energy&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif2Ye47cnkAhWlx4UKHbgWBRAQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MFcU2G_SFVRKzLOQLzNeo (https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencealert.com/world-s-oldest-nobel-prize-winner-says-his-new-device-will-give-clean-cheap-energy&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif2Ye47cnkAhWlx4UKHbgWBRAQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MFcU2G_SFVRKzLOQLzNeo)

or instead

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870527&CC=DE&NR=3540683A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870527&CC=DE&NR=3540683A1&KC=A1#)

                                                                                       +

                                   10@7 W per sqm=  10 MW/sqm = 1 KW/sq-cm conversion possibility

                  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on September 12, 2019, 02:20:35 PM
To compare the Zielinski/Sines generator fair :
the Harold Goldbaum with Zielinski apparent power-to-weight ratio :
Zielinski ( 4500 Ampere x 220 Volt/50 Hz) / weight
Sines 1 MW : ? Hz/27,2 Kg
Goldbaum : if with 400 Hz 60 KW per hour then with 50 Hz = 7,5 KW per hour dividing  with weight 705 ccm x 7,5 g
= 7,5 KW/5,3 Kg power-to weight ratio
Resume :

Goldbaum generator by weight and same output frequency more than 25x times heavier than Sines/ Zielinski generator

Technology for superconductive devices becomes cheaper :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13984  (https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13984)by Anatoly Rokhvarger and Lubov Chigirinsky and M.Topchiashvili ( 2000,2004)

91° Kelvin :  ::) hmm,  mit der Schukeyschen Delta-Omega Maschine, kaskadiert : =  - 180 ° Celsius

Kelvin Zeropoint to Celsius Zeropoint  ?
https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Schukey (https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Schukey)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermodyna.com%2Fjuergen-schukey.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermodyna.com%2Fjuergen-schukey.html)

+
Ed Sines US Navy work :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#)

Based by their priority dates : Schukey, Sines/US Navy and the HTS coil : global open source ( excl. US 2004 application https://patents.google.com/patent/US7632784 )
civil and military carrier technology for land,sea and air

High power electric beam tool/weapon :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=68&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19891018&CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=68&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19891018&CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1#)
High energy focus-point delivery : Mega- up to Gigawatt

Un-/friendly application possibility :
Fast cutting house walls, granit cavity engraver( for new water delivering channel f.e.),closed Tresor opener,
military tanks and jets internal heat increaser ( soldiers" cross" like fried chicken) ,
bridges/dams and tunnels e-cutter , 
nuclear solid/liquid waste incineration,minerals smelter et cetera pipapo


Ready for the future eWar without frontier  !  This, WE ARE : from cold war era to eWargames competition  !
Telemetrical : by joy-stick  ;D for Collateralwins
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 16, 2019, 05:13:08 AM
summary:
The  real  power used by  Tx  was  quite small and insufficient to
provide coast to coast communication.
However total power used to power Tx  was huge.
Spark gap created    spectrum  of   frequencies having  one dominating center  of  the lob
where  the amplitude was  at  its  highest.
So when receiver or transmitter  shifted from  desired  target frequency  than adjacent frequency was immediately available to be used due to existing wide  spark gap spectrum.
The  bandwidth   of  Rx and Tx circuitry was  so wide, so Rx  and Tx  was always  tuned for communication. 
look here :
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=939 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=939)

By comparison Tariel Kapanadze used  at  his first devices Tesla Coil and spark gap.
So  the spectrum of frequencies created exactly the same lob  with ready to  use   frequencies.
but now     our Tx  is made by nature.
There   are many  different  ways of activation:
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=990 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=990)
Due to Tesla coil characteristic  when you  have Top Capacitor on the  top of Tesla coil  RF signal is only present in near  field and than is vanishing.
by rules of Brewster Angle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle)

So we may think that Marconi used big masts and aerial  antennas in Tx .
however in Rx he used   balloon  with straight piece of wire.
And  that receiver is our key point
The receiver could only receive surface  wave  as it was sensitive only to that what could exist in near field of Rx


the receiver and transmitter must be alike  but acts  in reverse.
Tx  is transmitting  to   primary  coil and induces   voltage in HV secondary winding. 
Rx is receiving signal  using HV coil and   is   inducing it into Low voltage  coil.

Note:
Quote
both  the receiver and transmitter must be alike  but acts  in reverse.
that means  Rx and Tx don't have to look  alike but  they must act electrically  as if they were  the  same.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 17, 2019, 03:42:38 AM
question  to Wesley:
Quote
I used a stack of rings cores  wound it with 48 turns and added a parallel cap of 0.2 uf. 200nf
and fed it with 40khz resonance max amplitude placed one scope channel across the coil and stabbed each turn of the winding in turn
hoping to get a phase shift up the coil but all that changed was the amplitude.
Any idea's or what am I doing wrong ?

This  require
 slow wave velocity 
https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-velocity (https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-velocity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity)

link below:
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/369046/transfer-function-of-phase-change-controlled-with-capacitance (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/369046/transfer-function-of-phase-change-controlled-with-capacitance)
:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGel5QNSkIQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGel5QNSkIQ)
for capacitive reactive  circuits.

other links;
RLC Circuits (5 of 14) Inductive Reactance; Phase Shift, Phasor Diagrams, Frequency, An Explanation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEjBHmXDBqo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEjBHmXDBqo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idf1JQ003nc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idf1JQ003nc)
RLC Circuits (13 of 14) Summary of RLC Circuit Analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30J5U0ThRUc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30J5U0ThRUc)
Phase Shift in AC Signals



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHXZ9C914S0
Build A Simple Phase Shift Circuit
this should be easy enough
basically  without going to anything difficult
it is behavior of capacitive reactance and inductive reactance in the  same circuit.
and that can be shown easily on Smith Chart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_chart

 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_chart)other example:
from practical stand point
1.If you feed two coils with the same signal   but number  of turns is  different  than you get phase shift
2 If you feed straight piece of wire and  coil from the same signal  than you get phase shift
3. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in series than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
4. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in parallel  than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
5. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but pitch ( space  between winds is not the same)  than you get phase shift
  and so on.....
6. take two coils but  one of  the coils will have few winds in  CCW  you  will get   phase shift

hint:
1.wind two windings  on the former  with   the same number of winds.like bifilar.
2.connect two ends  together at the bottom and two  ends together   from the other side   of assembly.
3.  feed it from the same generator
4. now try to short   few winds  of  one of the coils with piece of wire and look at scope.
you will see two signals separated by delay.
if you carefully  chose the <short point> you  will regulate phase.
but to  see  that you need to adjust frequency !!!!!

one possible explanation out of many:

if there is difference between two coils in length  of the wire  than one signal from one of the coils will arrive faster than the signal from second coil.
the signal from  the coil with more  winds is called slow wave 
 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 17, 2019, 05:52:38 PM
Quote
However  that device or rather   mechanical concept  of two pancake shape coiled springs ( mechanical watch  springs)
I assumed that these were not coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 17, 2019, 07:57:50 PM
It doesn't matter .
Quote
coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.
is 
-the classical mechanics.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on September 18, 2019, 12:25:20 AM
Standing wave and resonance - two required conditions to send energy via surface wave.
Do we have standing wave at resonance in series LC circuit ( tesla coil ) or
they are adjusted separately?
Magnet wire is sold in spools of aprox. length. Unfortunately i have wind my coils without
making a measurement. Now this two "same" coils are not same at all.
How can i choose top load capacitance to get all the numbers right.
"Approximately" 500 feet 25awg wire and coil  has  3.89mH  . I tried to measure  ohms and
compare it to online calculators but its not taking me anywhere.

Thx



 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on September 18, 2019, 02:32:31 PM
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fca%2F4d%2F2a%2Fca4d2a27f6ac1a5d2f4ab601ad2ad66b.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F516365913517034535%2F&docid=kAznm8G2tmEBQM&tbnid=eLZzOdtT90EmnM%3A&vet=10ahUKEwjL94i2r9rkAhXrRxUIHZLvDVwQMwhCKAAwAA..i&w=513&h=837&client=ubuntu&bih=899&biw=1280&q=konstantin%20meyl%20free%20energy&ved=0ahUKEwjL94i2r9rkAhXrRxUIHZLvDVwQMwhCKAAwAA&iact=mrc&uact=8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 19, 2019, 03:52:43 AM
To #2897 :
A  lot of good interesting  links I'll  try  to   respond to  it  little later
Wesley 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 02, 2019, 12:57:48 AM
subiect:SLOW WAVE
reason:- slow wave can explain why Tariel Kapanadze  coil is so small
-make Tesla coil smaller even though the frequency  for given 1/4 y is very low

source:
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf (http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf)

factors making Tesla coil electrically small yet still performing:

-slow wave
-CW and CCW winding
- resonant cavities/ half rings ( this part is controversial to some of you even if it was  explained by Dr Corum)

stored
:
here and in https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539447/#msg539447 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg539447/#msg539447)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 03, 2019, 02:59:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NogGKkxB1NE&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NogGKkxB1NE&feature=youtu.be)

video  says:
5kW  after battery is  disconnected  two upper coils are used to (ionizate)/ ionize  air and than  coil  at the bottom
is receiving - converting "this" energy  and  delivering it to the load -the lightbulb
On the left hand side we have box that has unspecified  role and content.
Device  is close  in its look (only)  to hydroelectric device of Tariel Kapanadze.

Note:I only made short summary  of  the  wording used  in the  video.
I don't in  any  way try to  provide  confirmation   or try to  deny  any facts stated  in video.

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DavidWolff on October 10, 2019, 01:40:05 PM
Hi, Wesley, I found this on 'the my nik forum' re Delomorto thread some of the stuff looks interesting but i'm having some trouble finding some of the characters (hieroglyphics) are difficult to translate for me (tut) as they are not on the google keyboard  :'(

any chance you can have a quick look at the ones with the red rings round them please
kind regards.
Dave

Ref  http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48 PS goto this site at your own risk
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 12, 2019, 08:31:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdRz3GBR_Qs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdRz3GBR_Qsjust)
just for fun.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 12, 2019, 08:44:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaiVc51WKcc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaiVc51WKcc)
Yet another one
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 12, 2019, 09:15:34 PM
Hi, Wesley, I found this on 'the my nik forum' re Delomorto thread some of the stuff looks interesting but i'm having some trouble finding some of the characters (hieroglyphics) are difficult to translate for me (tut) as they are not on the google keyboard  :'(

any chance you can have a quick look at the ones with the red rings round them please
kind regards.
Dave

Ref  http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48 (http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48) PS goto this site at your own risk
Requested translation  is below
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DavidWolff on October 13, 2019, 01:03:53 AM
Hi Wesley and thank you for that.
I'm still a little confused as to what the language is exactly

Also, some might find this of use although winding the coil might not be a one would expect it to be wound.

Катушка L1и L2 намотана на каркасе d40, содержат no 40 витков множльного ировода 1мм

The coil L1 and L2 is wound on a d40 frame, they contain no 40 turns of a multiplier of 1 mm

В схеме нужно крен12 эаменuмь на крен8б цлц любую

Рассмоянце молько
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 13, 2019, 02:17:25 AM
Катушка L1и L2 намотана на каркасе d40, содержат no 40 витков множльного ировода 1мм
coil L1 and L2 winded on  coil  former  d=40mm  has  40  winds  stranded wire 1mm

В схеме нужно крен12 эаменuмь на крен8б цлц любую
you need to make change  relay 12 change to   relay B6 or any other relay  working with 12 V 

Рассмоянце молько
Рассмоянце- there is no such word
 молько- milk
Most likely  this is slang but you  made mistake in first word
Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 13, 2019, 08:18:40 PM
give me link to  his comment if you have one.
If you don't have  it than this comment  of  yours  is  irrelevant
Wesley

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48
https://youtu.be/Urdotg_CPJo

Didn't you know that ?
Some who do not watch the movies to the end and then are surprised.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 14, 2019, 09:55:31 AM
It is difficult to know now what is truth and what is not truth.
There used to be a photo showing devices in production. I have this picture but I don't want to put it here. If you want, I will send it to you pr.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on October 16, 2019, 05:42:50 PM
After countless hours of running back and forward in my garage with a glass of water in my hand,
I found that sweet spot Hooray .
Somebody forgot to mention that size of glass matters LOL 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: x_name41 on October 16, 2019, 06:25:18 PM
Hello, i going back a few years back when there was one person (with nickname in the forums "Tungus Wiliam") who interesting explained in detail the principle of operation of the Tariel Kapanadze generator with presented schematic diagram. In this regard i provide an archive document (https://realstrannik.com/media/kunena/attachments/224/Tungus1.pdf) in Russian that could be translated into English

and short part from this document referring to the description of the details in the diagram:

Quote
На схеме точка А питается от моста и емкости С2, требования к параметрам
тока и напряжения определяются потребителями в виде контура L1C1,
автогенератором G, и генератором питающим ключ VT1.
Точка В является для контура источником тока от моста (точка А) и источником
постоянного высокого напряжения от строчного трансформатора М. Питание на
контур снимается с конденсатора – накопителя энергии С3.
Через строчные трансформаторы M и P продеты полвитка резонансного контура
L1C1.
Генератор - auto G – автогенератор, обратная связь для поддержания резонанса
без ФАПЧ заведена с обмотки L7.
Обмотка L2 высоковольтная, питаемая током колебательного контура L1C1 и
выполняет функцию повышения потенциала в точке В сохраняя баланс
растраченной энергии контура, чем больше ток в контуре, тем выше потенциал
точки B. Для контроля заряда емкости С3 и ограничения напряжения можно
ставить разрядник или варистор. Рекомендуемое напряжение на контуре 800
вольт, этот параметр расчетный и зависит от нагрузки и цепей сброса энергии с
контура, таких как строчник P.
Строчник P выполняет функцию трансформатора тока с мощной обмоткой
съема Lp и высоковольтной L3.
Обмотка Lp является источником тока для повышающего преобразователя
между точками DH.
Ключевание катушки и L(R) производится с частотой 50 Hz с заполнением ВЧ
( например 100 кГц) скважность – 2.
В период отсутствия накачки L( R ) емкость С4 пополняется высоковольтной
энергией от L3, катушка S может не применяться, разрядник W то же, цепь
может быть замкнута от L3 до точки D.
Емкость C4 - основной накопительный элемент , рекомендуемый диапазон
заряда емкости должен быть в пределах 440-880 вольт, при циклах отбора
энергии при ключевании нагрузки заряд не должен снижаться ниже 400-440 v.
Дроссель L(R) со стороны заземления представляет мощный насос электронов,
а для всей схемы от транса тока P - это ФВЧ и апроксиматор для выделения
синусоподобного сигнала 50 Hz.
Провод Q может быть выполнен в виде внутренней обмотки дросселя с
согласованным напрвлением тока, но я бы не стал этого делать, выигрыш не
большой и фронты режет при ключевании VT1.
Номиналы элементов рассчитываются исходя из энергетики блоков питания,
нагрузки и личных предпочтений, все узлы и блоки очень простые.......
P.S. Схему можно усложнить или упростить......по желанию.......
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on October 17, 2019, 12:01:42 AM
Hello Wesley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3urK7ybyyZM

Link is to one of many many kapanadze demo videos .
Could you point me to JUST ONE that shows kapanadze device working and a guy taking measurement of current in a ground wire.

According to Corums patents you adjust polyphase probe while taking current measurement at the ground stake.
Unless you use a probe without grounding ( they patented this too ) you should see a current flow.

Video translated by you shows a measurement of 0 (volt? , amp?) before device was turned on, and then once its on  there is a guy touching it with his tongue. No measurement .

If this technology is based on surface wave and air earth interface , and grounding is utilized should we see current in this wire??

My assumptions are based on Corums patents only.  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/4d/66/f0/2ebc8481c0e629/US9941566.pdf
Line 35 to 40 .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI
22min 25 sec in to video - is this a current measurement in a ground wire??

THX
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 17, 2019, 12:26:40 PM

22min 25 sec in to video - is this a current measurement in a ground wire??


I said that this is the most important thing how this device works !!! no one understands why?
there are two possibilities that I know:
1. the current is in a loop with the earth
2. HV goes to the ground wire.

It's enough to do experiments to understand, but everyone is just waiting for the device. That is why those who have achieved something do not share with others because others are passive.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on October 20, 2019, 02:14:58 AM
Hello

Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more.  ;D
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Antenna Fundamentals:

  VSWR is the ratio of the maximum voltage to minimum voltage on the transmission line.  With an impedance mismatch, the VSWR is greater than one, indicating the presence of reflections.  As the impedance at the end of the transmission line becomes higher—approaching open circuit, the VSWR approaches infinity, indicating that all the power is reflected.   This situation is similar to the incidence of a light beam at an interface between two media, such as air and water, in which some light is reflected and some goes into the water.  VSWR reduces the amount of power transmitted to the antenna or  reduces the signal from the antenna when it is used to receive signals. 

Resonance and standing wave, resonant voltage building up at the TOP LOAD and discharge, a spark, corona discharge.
maybe just maybe all this occurrences are unwanted effects, all tesla coil builders seek sparks and corona and Nikola Tesla tried to avoid all of that .
Reading colorado springs notes made by Tesla we can find out that he was sending up to 1000amps thru ground stake.


Thx
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on October 23, 2019, 02:22:00 AM
please delete this
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 23, 2019, 09:00:30 AM
Why?
It’s true that Tesla’s coils achieve the maximum standing wave. Quarter wave resonance. And yet, combine it with LC resonance.
Such an antenna does not really emit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: jojo500 on October 23, 2019, 12:03:29 PM
Quote
1. the current is in a loop with the earth
2. HV goes to the ground wire.

It's enough to do experiments to understand, but everyone is just waiting for the device. That is why those who have achieved something do not share with others because others are passive.

not everyone is waiting but some favor to work on experiments instead of posting pages after pages of information ( relevant ore not). it drives more and more poeple away  than helping them.

1. kind of sort of....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on October 23, 2019, 04:23:54 PM
Hello, i going back a few years back when there was one person (with nickname in the forums "Tungus Wiliam") who interesting explained in detail the principle of operation of the Tariel Kapanadze generator with presented schematic diagram. In this regard i provide an archive document (https://realstrannik.com/media/kunena/attachments/224/Tungus1.pdf) in Russian that could be translated into English

and short part from this document referring to the description of the details in the diagram:
Translated by Google Translate


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on October 24, 2019, 12:46:38 AM
Groot
Quote
Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more.  ;D
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying. People often describe it as an antenna however in order to produce the desired effects we must do the opposite of what everyone else does and turn the antenna upside down.

Tesla said the HV secondary coil and the top load must be perfectly insulated to prevent all corona effects, radiation and losses. Nobody listens and they use a leaky top load which will radiate energy and negate the proper effects. Everyone has it backwards and upside down thus it is no wonder they cannot make anything work. The process was to store a great deal of energy in the insulated coil and top load with no losses or radiation then drive it into the ground plane in a single impulse with no return. This produced a HV surface conduction wave which travels along the ground much like a solition wave. What Tesla was trying to do was reproduce the effects similar to a lightning strike to ground. He even said this was where he initially got the idea... lightning. Think about that, lightning is obviously not an antenna and it does not produce EM waves therefore it's not the same thing.

Now one could say the wave like disturbance must dissipate and it does to some extent however we should understand this is not a Hertz or alternating EM wave this is a DC conduction wave. From Tesla's work with extremely HV he understood that even the best insulators act like conductors if the voltage is high enough. From this he deducted and proved through experiment that voltage (a difference in potential) can be replaced with a singular wave of very high potential which does not alternate in potential like an EM wave.

Understand, an ocean wave "alternates" like an EM wave above and below the average or mean height bound to every other wave however a solition wave travels as a singular disturbance not bound to any other waves. Obviously, if it is not bound to any other EM waves then it can act independent of them and is not bound to act like them. As it turns out all one has to do is not do the same thing as everyone else does over and over and over... do something different. I mean it's so obvious and self-evident it boggles the mind doesn't it?.

Why anyone would keep doing the same thing over and over when they know it doesn't work is apparently beyond my understanding. So there you have it, do something different, do the opposite and you will be well on your way. People just aren't all that smart but mother nature is a genius with billions of years of evolution to back her up, think about that.

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on October 24, 2019, 02:07:28 AM
Groot
Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying.

Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

Thx
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on October 26, 2019, 04:41:31 AM
Groot
Quote
Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

No problem, I agree and it's strange how all these patents we see are almost never as they seem. The most important parts relating to a working principal and the process are always missing. The trick I have found is to not get too hung up on what we think we see or hearsay and look at any given technology objectively and conceptually.

Absolutely the biggest mistake I see many people making is assuming because something looks similar to what we have seen in the past it must act or work similar which is not always the case. My line of reasoning is that if I was actually intelligent all of the answers should come naturally and flow like water however this is not the case. At which point it occurred to me that it was never the capacity to retain a bulk knowledge of science or technology which relates to other people but to try to do our own thing as an individual. Conjure up a new concept, start experimenting and see where it takes us.

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on October 28, 2019, 02:11:06 PM
scalable power from the atmosphere ?
http://www.conflowpower.com/ (http://www.conflowpower.com/)
editNew thread for CONFLOW
 https://overunity.com/18359/conflow-power-unlimited-harvesting-scalability-from-atmosphere-and/msg539970/#new
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 28, 2019, 03:54:58 PM
Quote
Conjure up a new concept, start experimenting and see where it takes us.
totally agree. There are a lot of lies on the Internet. Do not trust anyone and do not listen to anyone. Do it yourself. I try.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: e2matrix on October 28, 2019, 04:58:47 PM
scalable power from the atmosphere ?
http://www.conflowpower.com/ (http://www.conflowpower.com/)


Seems like that deserves it's own message thread.   Quite amazing if it's real and ever gets into production.   It does seem like they are getting close.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 10, 2019, 08:56:42 PM
Title of video  is:
Экскурсия по музею БТГ Free Energy [EBM] которого нет,  Pr. Szabo  в Будапеште около 10 лет назад.
Trip to museum of FE EBM that doesn't exist, Professor szhabo in Budapest   around 10 years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=1TyDfrn5JAE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=1TyDfrn5JAE)
this is next step of history of EBM popular in  year 2009 an d 2012
Information is related by Russians so please "grain of salt" or "pinch of salt"

EBM - ENERGY BY MOTION

first translated comment from  Russian's
:Gammamanager ещё делает БТГ?
is Gammamenager still making  Free  energy Generator?

Уже давно не делает, темболее это  Канада потом удрали в Венгрию, потом  кое кто почил а дочка все просрала, вернее продала.
They dont work on it  long time ago , ,remember that  is Canada , than they  escaped to Hungary  and than  he did make some progress but.. daughter ... she wasted or to be more accurate  sold  it.

 Их абривеатура крайняя EBM   «Energy by movement»
Their device it was exactly EBM  «Energy by motion»

Максим давно в моей публикации, очень давно..
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s1682635/parallelnyy_magnitnyy_potok_tehnologiya_djo_flinna (https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s1682635/parallelnyy_magnitnyy_potok_tehnologiya_djo_flinna)
Maxim he is long time in my  publication, very long time.
( they talk about Joe Flynn)

В конце Вестли не понравится так как Флинн далеко не первый просто Америка так столбит за собой технологии
At the end Wesley will not be happy about it as  USA is so  much .. for its technologies.

Это русский образец  подобной технологии
http://ckb-topaz-yug.ru/nashi-razrabotki/eppm-5-kvt.html (http://ckb-topaz-yug.ru/nashi-razrabotki/eppm-5-kvt.html)
This is russian example of that technology
А ну гляну
Let me look at  it...

Сделали ,только помалкивают...
Yes ..they did it  .. but  they dont want to say to much..

more about EBM is here;
https://youtu.be/a_lQyfM9QIc?t=171
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s2640425/generaciya_beztoplivnaya_ebm_energy_by_movement




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on November 15, 2019, 09:57:28 AM
Congratulations! The IAP has given us the 47.2 GHZ (at least for 4 yrs)
To do with as we please, including building energy receivers designed to the 1/4” wavelength
American FCC still prohibits broadcast at that frequency to amateur radio, but they have no jurisdiction
over energy reception.
Telecom stepped down, which means that’s our “free energy”
Beamed down to us from nuclear satellites that will last 100 yrs!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 15, 2019, 12:45:31 PM
Explain to the ignorant what it is.
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Beamed down to us from nuclear satellites
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47.2 GHZ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on November 18, 2019, 02:30:57 AM
Wesley,

Those Ortec's look gorgeous, I guess you like to collect these, can't blame you.

OK I think I may have time to get back to the Coleman experiments in awhile.   At this point I do not care about spectrum lines only safety.  When you told me about the thing throwing neutrons without gamma I stopped the experiment.  Do you still stand by this claim? If so the particle detector is paramount for safety reasons.
 I have an alpha beta gamma detector I made with Russian tube but nothing for the particles.
I know you are hesitant in talking too much about this device due to your friend who is invested heavily.  Is he at all interested in consulting or licensing, could you inquire?  It could save a bunch of time.  I know neutron particle detection requires sensitive setup and containment and imagine boring a hole in the lead shielding around the experiment for just the detector probe end would be optimal.  What was the frequency of neutrons you were able detect per hour?

Don't worry I did not start the Coleman experiment from your data, but only found you in a search when I was bringing the thing up, just curious if anyone else had attempted same.  Just to say you are not a bad influence that made me experiment with this, only the good influence that made me take pause.

Thank you for the great videos and science!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on November 19, 2019, 03:18:31 AM
Hello

I came across this website recently
https://www.inverse.com/article/45546-nikola-tesla-conspiracy-theory

Thx to professor Corum we know that this is possible and Tesla was right all along.

Wesley you know much more and much better about this project so answer this.

Tesla was digging deep in to rock at Colorado location to create a good ground connection. He even run water 24/7 to keep resistance low.
Corum explains in his patents that there must be incident present at Brewster angle, and physics  teach us about refractive index and two mediums and that wave must originate in certain medium. Antenna ground mirror reflection tells us how to do it. It takes a lot of work to accomplish.
So now tell me why they didnt build it at sea, under water ? according to Tesla and Corum this can be received anywhere in the world including sea and ocean, and if you can receive it there im certain you can Transmit as well.

By any chance does anyone know where was located a power plant that supplied Wardenclyffe Tower ?

Thx

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 04, 2019, 02:39:41 PM
Why does the asymmetric inductance with a permanent magnet not create a constant component in the AC circuit?By analogy with a semiconductor diode.because there is an asymmetry of the forward and reverse current.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 05, 2019, 03:29:27 AM
I'm not sure what is that you asking  for.
Can you be more specific?

Are you asking  about  The asymmetry between forward and reverse conduction as the basis for rectification ?
http://tuttle.merc.iastate.edu/ee201/topics/diodes/diodes.pdf (http://tuttle.merc.iastate.edu/ee201/topics/diodes/diodes.pdf)

One of examples of asymmetry and related to it energy is here:
https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1801/1801.05229.pdf (https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1801/1801.05229.pdfWesley)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 05, 2019, 08:43:51 AM
Well, something like that. A semiconductor diode rectifies the voltage, and a nonlinear inductance should rectify the current.But there was no constant voltage on the load.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 05, 2019, 01:49:53 PM
first lets clarify  what is :
nonlinear inductance
The behavior of an inductor for which the voltage drop across the inductor
is not proportional to the rate of change of current, such as when the inductor
has a core of magnetic material in which magnetic induction is not proportional to magnetic field strength.https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/nonlinear+inductance (https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/nonlinear+inductance)


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Example of Variable Inductor  that in this case  has the inductance as a function of its current
:http://www.beigebag.com/case_nonlinear_ind.htm (http://www.beigebag.com/case_nonlinear_ind.htm)
Conclusions:A lossless, nonlinear inductor model has been created.

This model is suitable for use in strongly nonlinear applications such as those using square
loop cores, or by curve fitting, to create a somewhat 'softer' models more nearly
approaching the performance low loss devices operated over a large range of flux (current) where a lossless, linear, straight line, unsaturating device model does not
fully result in good approximations of the actual circuit behavior.
but.. that what is puzzling me is:
-your wording   pointing about rectification
-addition of  permanent  magnets
can you explain it more?

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 05, 2019, 05:34:23 PM
Quote
-addition of  permanent  magnets
This allows, as I think, to have different inductive reactance for forward and reverse current.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 06, 2019, 10:47:00 AM
But can a certain frequency be extracted from the chaotic thermal motion by placing randomly scattered molecules in a volume resonator? Similar to how this is done in a radio receiver, in the input resonant circuit of which the necessary frequency is allocated from all the chaos of ether noises?The resonator will be very small, given the small mean free path.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 04:33:58 AM


1. some of construction  of buildings in Texas by Texon/ Viziv/  :
https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2758.jpg (https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2758.jpg)
https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2830.jpg (https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2830.jpg)
https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2779.jpg (https://nationwideconstruction.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2779.jpg)

2. in 2017 Texon..// Viziv was looking for additional money in 15 million dollars information  IS MENTIONING FEW OTHER PLAYERS .
https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/03/17/form-d-friday-15-million-for-a-waxahachie-firm-to.html (https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2017/03/17/form-d-friday-15-million-for-a-waxahachie-firm-to.html)

3. 2018. Viziv $34.1M
Quote
Some might ask what the unique-looking tower off Interstate-35E just outside Waxahachie is. It belongs to Viziv Technologies, which is the culmination of more than four decades of research in the field of Electromagnetic Surface Waves, CEO Brig. Gen. Michael Miller recently told Dallas Innovates (https://dallasinnovates.com/meet-the-innovators-brig-gen-michael-w-miller-viziv-technologies/). The research focuses mainly on methods to propagate the electromagnetic phenomenon known as the Zenneck surface wave, which unlike traditional radio waves, is guided along the earth’s surface. Viziv’s primary engineering focus is development of a means to synthesize this surface wave in “real world” conditions for use in various applications such as communications or energy.
In January,2918 Viziv announced that it had raised (https://dallasinnovates.com/follow-the-money-yourcause-exits-in-157m-deal-viziv-technologies-raises-1-37m/) an additional $1.372 million in two funding rounds.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 12:43:50 PM
RF Inductance Calculator for Single‑Layer Helical Round‑Wire Coils

Link:
RF Inductance Calculator for Single‑Layer Helical Round (http://hamwaves.com/inductance/en/index.html)Jun 30, 2019 ·
Dr
. James F. Corum, K1AON  is the founder inventor and  patents holder for Viziv/ Texon

Quote
The inductor calculator presented on this page is unique in that
it employs the n = 0 sheath helix waveguide mode to determine the inductance of a coil,
irrespective of its electrical length.
Unlike quasistatic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasistatic_approximation) inductance calculators, this RF inductance calculator allows
for more accurate inductance predictions at high frequencies by
including the transmission line effects
apparent with longer coils.
Furthermore, the calculator closely follows
the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) (http://nist.gov/) methodology
for applying round wire and non-uniformity correction factors and
takes into account both the proximity effect and the skin effect. 
The development of this calculator has been primarily based on a
2001 IEEE Microwave Review article by the Corum brothers (https://hamwaves.com/inductance/doc/corum.pdf)7
and the correction formulas presented in
David Knight’s, G3YNH, theoretical overview (http://www.g3ynh.info/zdocs/magnetics/part_1.html),1
extended with a couple of personal additions.

Which equivalent circuit should be used?
Both equivalent circuits yield exactly the same coil impedance at the design frequency.
For narrowband applications around a single design frequency
the effective equivalent circuit may be used.
When needed, additional equivalent circuits may be calculated for additional design frequencies.
The lumped equivalent circuit is given here mainly for the purpose
of comparing with other calculators.
By adding a lumped stray capacitance in parallel, this equivalent circuit
tries to mimic the frequency response of the coil impedance.
This will be accurate only for a limited band of frequencies
centred around the design frequency.

so there are some practical tools including calculator by Dr James Corum

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 12:56:53 PM
Article
https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2019/12/opdis-compilation-of-articles-part-2_24.html (https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2019/12/opdis-compilation-of-articles-part-2_24.html)
explains again what is  we talking about here:


Viziv Surface Wave System 

Tesla Technology Has Been Revived
 
 Aaron and Melissa Dykes of TruthstreamMedia were driving outside of Dallas near the small farming town of Milford, Texas, when a strange tower in the middle of a field caught their eye. It almost seemed like a joke because the shape was unmistakable. It looked just like Tesla/" target="_blank">Nikola Tesla’s Wardenclyffe Tower, the legendary experimental wireless transmission station he built in 1901 in Shoreham, New York to transmit phone calls, fax images and electrical power but which was demolished 16 years later due to bankruptcy.
 
 A little bit of research revealed that the tower’s owners are Viziv Technologies and that the structure is, in fact a Tesla wireless transmission tower! Viziv is currently reviving the technologies of Tesla/" target="_blank">Nikola Tesla, having “developed a system of patent-pending processes and equipment to efficiently launch the Zenneck surface wave…[which is ] an electromagnetic wave that uses the surface of the earth as a waveguide enabling it to carry communications signals or electrical power efficiently over long distances…”...
 
 https://vizivtechnologies.com/technology/ (https://vizivtechnologies.com/technology/)
 
 The Viziv surface wave system represents a paradigm shift in the science of electromagnetics.
 
 WHAT IT IS
 
 Our Viziv surface wave system allows the Earth itself to be used for clean, safe and efficient transfer of power between any two points on the globe, wirelessly. The system represents a paradigm shift in the science of electromagnetics.
 
 Today’s power distribution system of wired grids is fragile and aging. The transition to a global wireless system utilizing the Zenneck surface wave is a breakthrough that will effectively “cut the cord” between power generation facilities and the local distribution grids. This breakthrough will significantly enhance energy surety, reliability, and resiliency of the world’s electrical distribution systems.
 
 HOW IT WORKS
 
 Viziv Technologies has developed a system of patent-pending processes and equipment to efficiently launch the Zenneck surface wave. Currently, our research and commercialization efforts are focused on energy transfer and communications, but we recognize that this technology has the potential to impact numerous sectors of the economy.
 
 A Zenneck Surface Wave is an electromagnetic wave that uses the surface of the earth as a waveguide enabling it to carry communications signals or electrical power efficiently over long distances.
 
 This wireless power system will employ a “transmitter probe,” located near a power generation plant, to launch a Zenneck carrier wave. Receiver antennae will be positioned appropriately around the world to receive the signal and download the power into a local microgrid or conventional grid architecture.
 
 The wave is impervious to weather effects such as lightning or geomagnetic disturbance or electromagnetic pulses (EMP), including those associated with a nuclear detonation. Unlike a wired grid, the Zenneck wave cannot be physically attacked and cyber attacks would be challenged to target or cause cascading failures to a wireless system.
 
 When launched, the Zenneck Surface Wave literally envelops the planet like a balloon, enabling transmitter probes to be placed anywhere power can be generated and receivers to be placed anywhere power is needed....
 
 This paper, recently presented at an Association of Energy Engineers conference, provides an overview of Viziv wireless power systems, its evolution, and implications for the future:
 
 https://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf (https://vizivtechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/TWP-Paper-10-3-2017.pdf)
 
 James F. CORUM, et al. : Zenneck Wave Transmitter Patents --
 
 SUPERPOSITION OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVES ON LOSSY MEDIA
 US2018151933
 
 Authentication to enable/disable guided surface wave receive equipment
 CN108352731
 
 EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA
 US2018183128
 
 EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA
 US2018180729
 
 VARIABLE FREQUENCY RECEIVERS FOR GUIDED SURFACE WAVE TRANSMISSIONS
 US2018159374
 
 SUPERPOSITION OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVES ON LOSSY MEDIA
 US2018151933
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 01:06:21 PM
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/james-f-corum?page=2
Patents by Inventor James F. Corum

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 01:20:10 PM
http://wi-tap.energy/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Goubau_On-the-Zenneck-Surface-Wave.pdf

 (http://wi-tap.energy/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Goubau_On-the-Zenneck-Surface-Wave.pdf)
Dr. Zenneck in time of Tesla and Marconi was a professor in Munich  Technical University Germany.
Goubau was his student
Goubau  made single wire energy transmission while Dr Zeneck discovered Zenneck wave.
All of them based on Tesla and used Tesla coil.
Marconi in Bolinas California was trying to send energy over the  Air/Earth interface till was stopped by US government  ( newly created RCA 1919 - 1921)
===================================================================
Some people in Long Island NY were trying to preserve Tesla's facility  and  for Dr Corum  it was opportunity to mark himself and his work.
http://teslasociety.com/corum.htm (http://teslasociety.com/corum.htm)
I was there too, but only to visit it.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 01:42:05 PM
overview of Viziv in Dec 2018
https://thedailydialectics.com/SurfaceWaves/Visiv (https://thedailydialectics.com/SurfaceWaves/Visiv)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2019, 02:59:13 PM


В режиме стоячей волны волна Зоммерфельда-Ценнека
https://www.dissercat.com/content/novye-tipy-poverkhnostnykh-elektromagnitnykh-voln-v-provodyashchikh-sredakh

 (https://www.dissercat.com/content/novye-tipy-poverkhnostnykh-elektromagnitnykh-voln-v-provodyashchikh-sredakh)And basic  requirement is that Wave must be in TM mode
http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/texsts/rus/stat/st5745.pdf
 (http://www.sciteclibrary.ru/texsts/rus/stat/st5745.pdf)
ВТЕКАЮЩИЕ И ВЫТЕКАЮЩИЕ НЕСОБСТВЕННЫЕ МОДЫ:АНАЛИЗ ДИССИПАТИВНЫХ ДИСПЕРСИОННЫХ УРАВНЕНИЙИ ВОЛНА ЦЕННЕКА
М. В. Давидович
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2019, 02:28:11 AM
For Russian audience:
Вы должны понимать разницу между Viziv, основанным на Маркони и Тесле, и моей технологией, основанной на волноводе Шумана.
Практически это то же самое.
* Визив передает в катушку Тесла, чем в области между катушкой Тесла и дальним полем где-то вокруг зоны Френеля.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field

 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresnel_zone)
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question:Эта модель  Регионa Френеля  учитывает то, что электромагнитная волна может иметь продольную составляющую электрического поля?
Нет Регион Френеля важен для нас только из-за его существования,
Mы знаем, что он существует
 Мы можем указать на пространство между катушкой Тесла и ее дальним полем в точке,
где наклонная линия проведена от вершины катушки к земле под приблизительным углом
между землей и этой линией между от 62 до 67 градусов.  глубитca в землю.

С этого момента он становится Zenneck Wave в интерфейсе в режиме TM.

Не выходя за пределы дальнего поля     под приблизительным углом от 64 до 67 градусов к земле,
постоянная волна в катушке Тесла преобразуется в волновой наклон сигнала в режиме TM
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/antennas-propagation/rf-feeders-transmission-lines/waveguide-modes-te-tm-tem.php (https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/antennas-propagation/rf-feeders-transmission-lines/waveguide-modes-te-tm-tem.php)

https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/difference-between-TE-wave-and-TM-wave.html (https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Terminology/difference-between-TE-wave-and-TM-wave.html)
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=294 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=294)

ПОСЛЕ ТОГО,  ЭЛЕКТРОМАГНИТНАЯ ВОЛНА В РЕЖИМЕ ТМ ПОЙМАНА В ЛОВУШКУ В ИНТЕРФЕЙСЕ ЗЕМЛЯ / ВОЗДУХ
ЭТА ВОЛНА НЕ ИЗЛУЧАЕТСЯ В ВОЗДУХЕ.
С этого момента закон обратных квадратов не так сильно влияет на эту волну.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law)

Эта волна может быть получена идентичной катушкой Тесла в России или другом месте Земли на 92-98% от ее первоначальной мощности.

Так как у нас есть конденсатор между ионосферой и землей, который делает волновод Шумана, теперь это правила волновода, которые применяются.
 К счастью для нас, мы идем   ходим  на одной из границ этого волновода.

Bставив зонд в обычный волновод, мы можем извлечь некоторые колебания энергии в этом волноводе.
но этот зонд должен быть настроен на резонанс на  частоту, где энергия должна быть извлечена c этой волны Zenneck .


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another words Fresnel  Region is important to us as it helps us to pin point 
the exact point were  virtual  sloping line from top of tesla coil is  entering the earth.
that line doesn't exist .
It is our form of explaining  how the process works.
But we must specify at what  distance from the tesla coil, we'll start deal with  Zenneck Wave.
Everything is explained in my videos you must  view  all 3 of them.
List of videos will be  given below

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2019, 03:15:18 AM
For Russian audience:
отрицательность энергии бесплатно - это перенаселение и искусственный апокалипсис
Легкость жизни может сделать права на жизнь привилегией
Люди будут умирать из-за недостатка пищи, они очень скоро погубят землю, всего через несколько лет.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on December 30, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
Wesley,

It looks as if you have removed all of the Coleman videos you had at you tube, is this correct or am I looking at the wrong place?

I imagine someone else got the same phone call C&D

Being that Tesla had his lab burned right when he began investigating LENR with particle beams and X-rays and the power of liquefying /cooling gases perhaps the gatekeepers on this info are much older and more informed than we care to conceive.  Who was pulling Mr Morgans strings?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 30, 2019, 05:42:04 PM
Quote
Визив, может привести к распаду России примерно в 2024 году.
What for? Most people have made their choice. They want to be slaves.They are all happy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2019, 09:12:34 PM
Wesley,

It looks as if you have removed all of the Coleman videos you had at you tube, is this correct or am I looking at the wrong place?

I imagine someone else got the same phone call C&D

Being that Tesla had his lab burned right when he began investigating LENR with particle beams and X-rays and the power of liquefying /cooling gases perhaps the gatekeepers on this info are much older and more informed than we care to conceive.  Who was pulling Mr Morgans strings?
I'm in the run so quick answer
Please check if links works
https://youtu.be/-PMMK4KHXYU (https://youtu.be/-PMMK4KHXYU)
https://youtu.be/Mk3ku_dBzBM (https://youtu.be/Mk3ku_dBzBM)
https://youtu.be/V5jFtrpatrA (https://youtu.be/V5jFtrpatrA)
https://youtu.be/5x-qMfdZngo (https://youtu.be/5x-qMfdZngo)
https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY (https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY)
https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns (https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns)
https://youtu.be/gKkcdfSdt5Q (https://youtu.be/gKkcdfSdt5Q)
https://youtu.be/1wCPOr3RSNo (https://youtu.be/1wCPOr3RSNo)
https://youtu.be/QucsK2hg0eo (https://youtu.be/QucsK2hg0eo)
https://youtu.be/w2nGASfHso0 (https://youtu.be/w2nGASfHso0)
:) Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2019, 09:14:51 PM
What for? Most people have made their choice. They want to be slaves.They are all happy.
good comment
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on December 31, 2019, 04:19:21 AM
 Wesley..I am presently using the Ferrite TV core with  50 / 15 primary + 150  cadaceous secondary coil setup.
My system uses a "resonant / feedback" using home-made 2(two) - 10" bifilar pick-up coils (only one thread in each is used though) made of 40 gauge wire.One measures 11.6 mH, the other 9.95 mH. I measure 1.5- 4v output from these.I am only inputting to the 15 turn,the 50 turn has a capacitor across it.My scope is the PCSU 1000.
These coils (antennae) need careful adjusting relative to the 2 "di-pole" output wires from the amp to the core.This is where an avalanche / feedback signal seems to be generated the most.The bubble area surrounding all this is also RF sensitive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCPEYxvkelM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Manv1aDJqa0
These coils, alone, feed an OPA541 which I have ran as low as 12v and as high as 40v. (I ran one at 50v and broke it). The best output I have gotten from the core, measured by my Sper-Scientific microwave / RF meter, is 1.612 when running the amp at 18.5 volts / .49 amp.(max is 3 on the meter,and average is .5 or 1/2 and alarm goes off exceeding 1.0)  .I have  no problem getting that core to resonate at 1.14 MHz with ~ 100-400 KHZ undertones,and semi-lighting a 14watt / 120 volt bulb. I can run it up to 39 volts @ 1.8 amp and get a better bulb output. My AM radio also lets me know when the core is resonating.
Problem is there are about 7 or more resonant points varying in voltage/ current usage of the amp-but only one special one at 18-20v (also at ~ 1.14 MHz) that will just pop-up  and the core just takes off--Ive seen it as high as 2.2.The coils must be extra carefully adjusted to hit that certain spot,but still I find no great gain of input to output voltage / current relative to any other.When it resonates at whatever voltage/ current the bulb starts to light.
    So..do I need to wind a "Grenade" coil and and run the core output to this? I assume the "Grenade" coil is used as an air core transformer due to the higher frequencies it can handle.....Can I then expect a higher flux density for the input voltage / current---I expect an additional 2 amps will be needed to run that coil too.I have already ordered a bigger OPA amp and will be ready.From what I measure I am using up to 1.5 amps at 39 volts to half light a 124 ohm,120v .12 amp bulb.
Not looking too good right now.
Also..I did light a 4 watt bulb pretty good using a 12v Radio Shack 27 MHz CB transceiver with a 7" diameter coiled 10 foot RG59 cable and a MUR120 30MHZ diode on the cable end.Got a video on that too. I estimate .14 amp @ 13v to half light a .05 amp / 120v bulb.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on December 31, 2019, 03:07:15 PM
Ray with all due respect Wesley has gone into depth concerning the VNA on this thread including model numbers spelling out the words and even helping advise me on proper models for the process.  It would be a bit of a hassle to write out Vector Network Analyser each time therefore the contraction.  These things are expensive units and not well understood by engineers outside the bounds of hardcore RF such as antenna design.  Basically a network analyser allows one to compare the incident and reflected wave against a transmitted signal over a selected bandwidth as quickly as possible.  There are two type Scalar and Vector where the scalar measures magnitude and the vector adds the phase component which is pretty important for studying boundary type waves.

Wesley, thanks for the links, very good.  Could you recall a device in your video you quickly flashed on "Resonant Nuclear Reactor" and provide some insight to this? 
Have a wonderful New Year!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on December 31, 2019, 08:07:13 PM
Wesley hi there I wonder if you can help me, I think I'm writing about Ruslans Video 1kw5 dated the 3/1/19
you made a split-screen video translation, what I want to ask is concerning that and a couple of other videos
that appear to employ spark plugs and LOPT high voltage, I notice you have a well-stocked lab and what my self
and a couple of the other lads were wondering if you know or have looked at the speed in nanoseconds or microseconds
of pulsed energy sparks or if you can comment on this, please.

Kind regards and wish you a happy and prosperous new year


Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2020, 03:03:21 AM

Could you recall a device in your video you quickly flashed on "Resonant Nuclear Reactor" and provide some insight to this? 
please provide me with link related to your question.

whatever exists in big scale  it exists in small scale  too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBFWp5d9x0Have (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBFWp5d9x0Have) a wonderful one too. :)

the exact point is here : https://youtu.be/ZkBFWp5d9x0?t=633 (https://youtu.be/ZkBFWp5d9x0?t=633)

Wesley
ps: some fundamentals:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=989mSwMvcWQ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2020, 03:40:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FUpzT74z3w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FUpzT74z3wsome)
links from the past

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Michel  Meyer invented a very neat way of excitation of nuclear reactions by nuclear magnetic resonance.
I also came to this idea, but I found it difficult to determine.
It uses a resonance in ferromagnetic materials, and huge values of the magnetic fields inside them.
Such principles are similar to some works of John V.  Keely

Мишель Мейер придумал очень изящный способ возбуждения ядерных реакций при помощи ядерного магнитного резонанса.
Мне тоже приходила такая идея, но я считал ее трудноосуществимой.
Он использует резонанс в ферромагнетиках, и чудовищные значения магнитных полей внутри них.
Подобные  принципы схожи с некоторыми работами Джона V. Keely

Michelle Meyer a inventé une façon très soignée de l'excitation des réactions nucléaires par résonance magnétique nucléaire.
Je suis également venu à cette idée, mais je trouve qu'il est difficile à déterminer. Il utilise une résonance dans les matériaux ferromagnétiques,
et d'énormes valeurs des champs magnétiques à l'intérieur. Michelle Meyer inventó una manera muy clara de la excitación
reacciones nucleares mediante resonancia magnética nuclear. También llegué a esta idea, pero me resultaba difícil de
determinar. Utiliza una resonancia en los materiales ferromagnéticos, y grandes valores de los campos magnéticos dentro de ellos.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2020, 03:53:18 AM
 longitudinal wave behavior
-that is mechanical wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRu8TTudpb0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRu8TTudpb0Wesley)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2020, 03:59:29 AM
Dear magnetstoo thank you for your  experiment
I need some more time to understand    it.
For past few months I'm in and out,  not even having  time for   my videos
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 03, 2020, 06:58:09 AM
Was there anything other than radiation in the experiment with the Coleman tube? Electricity from the output. ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 07, 2020, 07:37:35 AM
   Mr. Wesley..I can only imagine how busy you are from all your videos....I have since increased the output by 50% and perhaps achieved nearly 66% efficiency compared to a direct 120v outlet connection.I have eliminated the 50 turn and the inner copper liner, I have also eliminated the 5th coil and now using a previously unused thread of one of the antennae coils...Im now running only the 15 turn inner winding for input....It is a delicate balance but I have a ( what appears to be ) 33% lighting of a 20watt, .16a , 120v, 66.5 ohm  Xenon bulb with only 43.5 volts @ .2 amp @ 90 kHz...This would equate to approx. 130 volt @ .07amp for this 120 volt .16a bulb running at about 33%..I can turn my AM radio on also  and NOT get the static background but a nearly clean AM broadcast because the system is "locked in" as it were.. The spectrum analysis shows multiple peaks up to 3+ MHz at the output of the Ferrite ...My OPA541 amp is only good to 40 volts.I have not received the big one yet.I have some minor heat loss in the amp ( do not need a fan now) and the 15 turn winding. I am also using a 2.4 volt (square, sine,triangle...does not matter much  )input @ ~ 180 kHz from my "Wavetek" signal generator into one of the unused coils for a back resonance.There certainly is not  much current in these coils as they are 38 and 40 gauge wire @ about 11mH. Input voltage to the OPA541 from the antennae appears to be .1v..or perhaps 1v when measured with an analog meter.....Frequency should be 90kHz. Input frequency = output frequency...
    I am hoping to add and receive some insight into how to increase the magnetic field output..I am applying some of Don Smiths ideas also.If any one else
has some ideas and a near working model,Id like to hear of what else I can do, short of winding a grenade coil which I may end up doing, as it looks as if I have reached the end of efficiency with this present set-up..because I have tried to update what I can..I will post to Y-Tube when I get organized...All in all it all appears to be ( must be ) a smooth transition between input and output As Don Smith said  "They must talk to each other"...My output amp is running far far cooler than it did, to light the same bulb at the same brightness.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 07, 2020, 08:09:33 AM
If you wind the secondary coil in the opposite (left hand) direction


The magnetic field induced will oppose the primary
(current will run in the same direction in both coils)
This will amplify the magnetic field in the core (ferrite/air/etc.)
[note: this only works with connected core transformers.
          Toroids, square/rectangle loops, connected plates,
           “U” transformers, etc.
           Where the magnetic field loops back on itself.]
            {air cores are 3-dimensional spacial fields
              independent from the physical coil}
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 08, 2020, 09:32:16 AM
Happy New Year!
After some time without overunity.com I decide to go further with my "investigation" or search for the true.
All I see here from Wesley is idea of Standing Wave induced "hot spots" in the area of Planet Earth, which is plausible.
But, I don't want to be that person which will live in that "hot spot", because of health damage in long period of time.
About "how Kapanadze make that trick" I think I have more simple explanations.

Lets go in to the past. All talks from Kapanadze was about 700kHz...
Are you remember that?

Very many peoples remember experiments with Tesla Biffilar pancake coils and Induction ovens...

Frequency is from 28kHz to 50kHz in many Induction ovens.

Remember that, no one was electrocuted when peoples take load (230V 100W-1000W lamps in full bright with no isolated wires connected in water)!!!

All internet is full with these videos and I myself was the part of "investigators" in Latvia...

Secret is here - High Frequency can be transferred trough water and Earth and "ground pipe".

There is no Free Energy.

Kapanadze use 700kHz Amplitude Modulated Transceiver.

All remember "relay click" activated with 9V battery?

This relay just make connection with AM receiver, which was part of all tricks.

Remember SR?

Remember "must be "good ground"  ;D :o :) ...

This is it!

Happy New Year, Wesley and others!

P.S. Don`t try to make Energy from nothing, you will fail!

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lifeforce-energy on January 08, 2020, 10:50:54 AM
Interesting plausible hypothesis Ansis if he was a crooked fraudster, although I would still give Kapanadze's patent the benefit of the doubt at this stage for its alleged authenticity,  if it was not for the fact that he shares similar common electrical schematic topology techniques with other 'free energy' researchers & developers such as Don Smith, Ed Gray- Marvin Cole Motor, Bedini, Nikola Tesla, and Alfred Hubbard.
If you can easily dismiss him, then all these other inventors don't have a leg to stand on I guess. 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 08, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
We see no results.
All "Dons Smits" talks are just talks.
Energy cant be created from nothing.
This is real life.
Everything is not free.
Energy is created by man, here on the Earth.
All kinds of energy we can transfer, but we need energy.
Kapanadzes patents are based on Energy Magnification...
It means we need energy(accumulators) for Amplification...
All accumulators go flat.
Only transfered energy can be received and can do usefull work!
Free Energy is never existed in Nature.
All energies have "father"... :).
Space Energy comes from Space.
Water energy comes from flow of river.
Heat energy comes from wood, coal, nuclear...
So it goes.
Be happy!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 08, 2020, 11:10:14 AM

Lets go in to the past. All talks from Kapanadze was about 700kHz...
Are you remember that?


When ? whare ?
I only heard 200 kHz when he says Kapanadze. Also that it can be 50Hz output 100Hz 400Hz.

However, what you say may be true were it not for the fact that the device was also 100kW and several people worked there. If there was a ~700kHz connection from the ground, the power would also have to come from the ground! even more than 100kW. So where were they connected? To the transformer of the local power distributor? maybe, but it would have to be a scam.

Yes, I hear the relay jump and this was confirmed by Wesley as he was at Kapanadze but it does not help because this mode can be used for other purposes.

When the measurement is made via a clamp meter it shows correct current readings. This is how it looks, so the clamp meter would have to be ready for 700kHz reading


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 08, 2020, 11:21:39 AM
We see no results.
All "Dons Smits" talks are just talks.
Energy cant be created from nothing.
This is real life.
Everything is not free.
Energy is created by man, here on the Earth.
All kinds of energy we can transfer, but we need energy.
Kapanadzes patents are based on Energy Magnification...
It means we need energy(accumulators) for Amplification...
All accumulators go flat.
Only transfered energy can be received and can do usefull work!
Free Energy is never existed in Nature.
All energies have "father"... :).
Space Energy comes from Space.
Water energy comes from flow of river.
Heat energy comes from wood, coal, nuclear...
So it goes.
Be happy!

You are very wrong. You live because there is energy everywhere. We want it in the form of electricity and it is difficult for us.

...Kapanadzes patents are based on Energy Magnification...  YES but maybe it is converted (fridge and others devices)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 08, 2020, 11:30:22 AM
All information about Kapanadze talks is from his tapes, recorded 10 years ago by russian or ukrainian enthusiasts...
In fact pipe is ideal energy transfer line.
Pipe is Amplitude Modulated by 50Hz with 700 000Hz main frequency.
Of course Kapanadze is greate man!
He is genius!
But?
David Copperfield is genius too!
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 08, 2020, 03:35:36 PM
Energy is in all mass.
Mass causes gravity, which is a separate quantity of energy.
a potential energy based on the locations of the masses.
Therefore, space itself contains energy.
(mass and 3-d distance)


Gravity is the potential energy of 2 masses to become 1 mass.
(which increases the total energy of the mass by the additional mass)


Therefore, mass in the presence of other mass creates energy, relating it
in the form of kinetic energy, as it combines its energy with that of the other mass.
Total final energy of the mass system is the same as before they approached each other.


However, the change in kinetic and potential energy was created AND transferred elsewhere
as they were approaching.


Let’s take this a bit further and consider galactic masses (countable) infinite distance apart.
There is (countablly) infinite kinetic energy between these galaxies.


Infinite!!!
Defined only by the special dimensions and the magnitude of the mass.
So by increasing the energy of a mass (by adding more mass) creates energy from the vacuum.


If the universe is truly “expanding”, then the potential energy of the universe is infinitely increasing.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on January 08, 2020, 03:40:36 PM
It is practically unfeasible but totally “possible” for us to create gravity generators
By placing solenoids on asteroids in space.
As they approach, the kinetic energy of gravitational acceleration is transferred into
the induction coil.
And after an elastic collision sends them in different ways, the
universal expansion increases the potential energy between them.


This is, by definition, perpetual motion / overunity.


And completely accepted by modern physics.


Furthermore: the accepted value of universal expansion is an accelerating
quantity. Thus, space itself is infinitely increasing in potential energy.
This includes the space we live in.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 10, 2020, 09:17:57 AM
It is practically unfeasible but totally “possible” for us to create gravity generators
By placing solenoids on asteroids in space.
As they approach, the kinetic energy of gravitational acceleration is transferred into
the induction coil.
And after an elastic collision sends them in different ways, the
universal expansion increases the potential energy between them.


This is, by definition, perpetual motion / overunity.


And completely accepted by modern physics.


Furthermore: the accepted value of universal expansion is an accelerating
quantity. Thus, space itself is infinitely increasing in potential energy.
This includes the space we live in.
Sounds like pie in the sky and beyond most people's scope of reality.  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 10, 2020, 09:29:27 AM
Good morning!
I discover interesting thing relaited with old LiPo batteries!
Batteries about 10-15 years old, when they are lose capacity, is turning in to SuperCapacitors with capability to recharge themself. Of course energy density after "recharging" period of 12-20 houres drops down, but it is amayzing. My setup is made from 3 old+1 old, but not compleatly dead LiPo 18650.
I watch this YT video about quantum battery.
Very interesting.
https://youtu.be/7fM4e0cx5zU
Thats all for now.
Yes, for better results 3 batteries must be dry and we must go and destroy elements by charging them with 25Hz DC impulses and Voltage must be around 9Volts and Voltage on the batteries in that moment must be 5V DC.
Good luck!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 10, 2020, 03:18:40 PM
Ansis,quote
Good morning!
I discover interesting thing relaited with old LiPo batteries!
Batteries about 10-15 years old, when they are lose capacity, is turning in to SuperCapacitors with capability to recharge themself. Of course energy density after "recharging" period of 12-20 houres drops down, but it is amayzing. My setup is made from 3 old+1 old, but not compleatly dead LiPo 18650.
I watch this YT video about quantum battery.
Very interesting.
https://youtu.be/7fM4e0cx5zU (https://youtu.be/7fM4e0cx5zU)
Thats all for now.
Yes, for better results 3 batteries must be dry and we must go and destroy elements by charging them with 25Hz DC impulses and Voltage must be around 9Volts and Voltage on the batteries in that moment must be 5V DC.
Good luck!end quote
maybe start a topic ?
I will drop in Plengo topic [great open source experimenter here with dry "energy harvesters"
Chet K link here https://overunity.com/15035/crystal-cell-research-for-experimenter/msg541798/#msg541798
more info PLEASE ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 10, 2020, 03:27:33 PM
OK.
I just observed possibility of "second life" for old stuff with interesting properties.
I just give the idea, not to throw away but use for projects? or whatever.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 10, 2020, 03:32:19 PM
Ansis
yes some will say "not safe" or other comments
if you could give more detail ?[new topic maybe ?
to understand recycling these or this "back to life" ??would be nice to understand
and a great open source project

thx Chet K even start new topic in Wesley section?circuit timing etc etc seems simple at a glance
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 10, 2020, 10:13:50 PM
I forgot to include data taken from the output of the core,after the bridge diode, to the 125w bulb...#6 is a Log of the spectrum showing the wide spread of frequencies and the falling off around 2.5 MHz -of which I found also an interesting region.Core has a natural rez about 1.14 MHz.Also a picture of the 125w bulb--(grow lamp for plants) it has a blueish coating.The picture is close to its actual brightness,perhaps a bit brighter.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 11, 2020, 12:45:25 AM
Energy is in all mass.
Mass causes gravity, which is a separate quantity of energy.
a potential energy based on the locations of the masses.
Therefore, space itself contains energy.
(mass and 3-d distance)


Gravity is the potential energy of 2 masses to become 1 mass.
(which increases the total energy of the mass by the additional mass)


Therefore, mass in the presence of other mass creates energy, relating it
in the form of kinetic energy, as it combines its energy with that of the other mass.
Total final energy of the mass system is the same as before they approached each other.


However, the change in kinetic and potential energy was created AND transferred elsewhere
as they were approaching.


Let’s take this a bit further and consider galactic masses (countable) infinite distance apart.
There is (countablly){countability only has one l} infinite kinetic energy between these galaxies.


Infinite!!!
Defined only by the special dimensions and the magnitude of the mass.
So by increasing the energy of a mass (by adding more mass) creates energy from the vacuum.


If the universe is truly “expanding”, then the potential energy of the universe is infinitely increasing.
Would anyone be prepared to challenge this idea as to what gravity actually  is and how it really works
I know the above idea is outdated and it is more about electricity and vibration and the way electrons and protons are bound and pull and bind together in order to lessen their potential charge and are thus
strongly attracted to the center that being the center of the earth where there charge wóúld be minimal.
and gravity as far as mass and weight is just an effect of the elusion this assumption is based on.

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 11, 2020, 08:04:37 AM
  Sorry...I made a big mistake assuming perhaps the 125 watt was 1/3 brightness.
I did a direct hookup of the 125w bulb to the D.C. var. power  supply.
My devices output compares to 20 volt / .4 amp , -my device consumes 44 volt
/ .4 amp....nowhere near even 1/3 brightness either .I kept looking and doubting
about the output,yet, how to measure it..Oh,and sorry for the monster size pic of the bulb,
I grabbed my camera while I was uploading, and did not realize the setting I was using....
If  the coil / antennae idea intrigues you, Ralph Grimes of RWG Research on You-Tube was
making them with up to 46 gauge wire. I have long since taken my coil maker apart.The bi-fi coils
were just a curiosity at the time..I wondered "what if I had a bi-fi coil that had very small wire and how would it respond to RF ".
..You cannot shove much current through these obviously
as they will burn up,or arc..My filament ends are separated so I can wire them any way I wanted.I use them now as singles.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 09:22:35 AM
Hi Wesley and others!
I study the oscillatory circuit in resonance and the removal of reactive energy from it with the help of short and powerful pulses.
Remember SR193 - “Create a low-cost electromagnetic field, and then just move it.”
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 11, 2020, 01:41:27 PM
something current for today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbnc1M944RA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbnc1M944RA&feature=youtu.be)

ZPower Recent Technology Demonstrations



for comparison  when you klick  at underneath of main window at 
 Reed Huish (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6R8eugtg32UsCZDhSjixsw) Youtube
it gives you all old videos from the same guy  from early 1990 and 2000.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBPGlW8hXQThis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBPGlW8hXQThis)


 this video shows how plates are made. 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2020, 02:24:05 PM
something current for today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbnc1M944RA&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbnc1M944RA&feature=youtu.be)

ZPower Recent Technology Demonstrations



for comparison  when you klick  at underneath of main window at 
 Reed Huish (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6R8eugtg32UsCZDhSjixsw) Youtube
it gives you all old videos from the same guy  from early 1990 and 2000.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBPGlW8hXQThis (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RBPGlW8hXQThis)


 this video shows how plates are made. 
Wesley

They haven't found the investor for so many years? now they probably show it in India. If he took only 1-10 $ from anyone willing to make his device, he would have been a millionaire long ago.
What is wrong ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 02:40:55 PM
 :D Потому что его устройство похоже на батарейку, а обработка
встроенным компьютером вообще не увязывается с получением энергии, слишком сложно оно устроено!

Translated by moderator:
Because his device is like a battery, and processing by the built-in computer
is not at all linked to energy production, it is too complicated!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 11, 2020, 03:24:00 PM
:D Потому что его устройство похоже на батарейку, а обработка встроенным компьютером вообще не увязывается с получением энергии, слишком сложно оно устроено!
Yes I see what you mean, and it's great to see you hear, welcome.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 03:45:37 PM
Я уверен что в установке свободной энергии ,
Капанадзе использует раскаченный колебательный контур, как основу для накопления электромагнитного поля в катушке.
На это поле он воздействует коротким, но мощным электромагнитным импульсом, сдвигая поле в катушку съема.
Как пример- схема, не уверен что именно так , но похоже!

translated by moderator:
I am sure that in the installation of free energy,
Kapanadze uses a swayed oscillating circuit as the basis for the accumulation of the electromagnetic field in the coil.
This field is affected by a short but powerful electromagnetic pulse, shifting the
field into the pickup coil.
As an example,  here is a diagram,
I'm not sure what it is, but it seems like !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 11, 2020, 04:28:10 PM
I have problem with analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ&t=301s
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ&t=301s)https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=277 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw?t=277)


Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 11, 2020, 04:37:02 PM
Я уверен что в установке свободной энергии ,
Капанадзе использует раскаченный колебательный контур, как основу для накопления электромагнитного поля в катушке.
На это поле он воздействует коротким, но мощным электромагнитным импульсом, сдвигая поле в катушку съема.
Как пример- схема, не уверен что именно так , но похоже!


As an example,  here is a diagram,
I'm not sure what it is, but it seems like!
Hi and Thanks for the diagram and it's an interesting view and much appreciated of the idea concept, have you a better much higher HD quality image you can share, please?

Привет и спасибо за диаграмму, и это интересный вид и высоко ценится идея концепции, не могли бы вы поделиться гораздо более высоким качеством HD-изображения, которым вы можете поделиться, пожалуйста?

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 04:46:23 PM
Kapanadze in the video said- "this is the classic Tesla scheme, only no one could make it work!"

Watch the video with the can, all the wires that go to the can are low current, only the wires on the reel itself are thick! So the current is formed in this place. And what can heat the wires - the oscillatory circuit in resonance! But no one could remove energy from such a circuit (again we recall the words of Kapanadze)
Kapanadze was able to squeeze out energy from the circuit! This is his secret.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 04:57:15 PM
Принцип очень простой- есть колебательный контур, последовательный или параллельный, который накапливает в себе электромагнитное поле Все знают, что там гуляет огромный реактивный ток, но извлечь его нельзя - рушится резонанс.
Но я думаю, что используя индуктор и разряд заряженного до высокого напряжения конденсатор (схема Теслы), можно это поле сдвигать в сторону катушки съема, создавая в ней ЭДС!
Я вы знаете давно веду поиски, но этот вариант мне пришел в голову совсем недавно, на новый год, я буду проверять эту теорию сам и предлагаю всем кому интересно это сделать тоже!


The principle is very simple - there is an oscillatory circuit, serial or parallel, which accumulates an electromagnetic field in itself. Everyone knows that a huge reactive current is walking there, but you cannot extract it - the resonance is collapsing.
But I think that using an inductor and a capacitor charged to a high voltage (Tesla's circuit), this field can be shifted towards the pickup coil, creating an EMF in it!
You know, I’ve been searching for a long time, but this option came to my mind just recently, for the new year, I will test this theory myself and suggest that everyone who is interested in doing this too!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
stivep, вы понимаете - что где есть ЭДС, там есть и ОЭДС. Среда упругая на электромагнитные импульсы, она может возвращать поле обратно в колебательный контур, тем самым производя колебания переменной частоты в катушке съема.
Когда мы как контур пинаем поле в катушку съема, а среда ее возвращает обратно в контур.

Частоту резонансную может задавать генератор, это самое простое.

Посмотрите видео " аквариум" при включении идет звук перегруза трансформатора, это накачивается колебательный контур, ток падает потребления когда контур раскачен, для поддержки его колебаний не нужно много энергии- мало затратное электромагнитное поле !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 11, 2020, 05:20:42 PM
stivep, вы понимаете - что где есть ЭДС, там есть и ОЭДС.
Среда упругая на электромагнитные импульсы, она может возвращать поле обратно
в колебательный контур, тем самым производя колебания переменной частоты в катушке съема.
Когда мы как контур пинаем поле в катушку съема, а среда ее возвращает обратно в контур.

Частоту резонансную может задавать генератор, это самое простое.

Посмотрите видео " аквариум" при включении идет звук перегруза трансформатора,
это накачивается колебательный контур, ток падает потребления когда контур раскачен,
 для поддержки его колебаний не нужно много энергии- мало затратное электромагнитное поле !

stivep, you understand - that where there is EMF, there is also OEDS. The medium is elastic to electromagnetic pulses, it can return the field back to the oscillating circuit, thereby producing oscillations of variable frequency in the pick-up coil. When we kick a field into a pickup coil as a contour, and its medium returns back to the contour. The resonant frequency can be set by the generator, this is the simplest.
Watch the video “aquarium” when turning on, the transformer overload sounds, it oscillates, the current drops when the circuit is swayed, it doesn’t need a lot of energy to support its vibrations — low-cost electromagnetic field!

Please understand Delamorto  that  we here  in Western World of physics  don't take anything  by descriptor  <<it is>>
Пожалуйста, поймите, Деламорто, что мы здесь не принимаем ничего,  в Западном мире  науки, используя слово « есть ».
We also  don't use  word   Elastic medium (Среда упругая) without specifying  of what exactly  it is, based on  properties of that elastic medium.
Мы также не используем слово Эластичная среда Среда упругая без указания того, что именно это такое, основываясь на свойствах этой эластичной среды.

There is process before
Есть процесс, прежде чем  есть :
Quote
producing oscillations of a variable frequency in a coil
производя колебания переменной частоты в катушке
Explain that process please
Объясните пожалуйста этот процесс

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 05:34:46 PM
Wesley, сделайте колебательный контур, замерьте какой ток в нем гуляет в резонансе, греются и конденсатор и провода.
Эту энергию никто не мог использовать без разрушения резонанса в нем.
Капанадзе видимо нашел способ по Тесла.
На фото я вижу конденсаторы и катушку- это колебательный контур!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2020, 06:17:00 PM
Kapanadze in the video said- "this is the classic Tesla scheme, only no one could make it work!"

Watch the video with the can, all the wires that go to the can are low current, only the wires on the reel itself are thick! So the current is formed in this place. And what can heat the wires - the oscillatory circuit in resonance! But no one could remove energy from such a circuit (again we recall the words of Kapanadze)
Kapanadze was able to squeeze out energy from the circuit! This is his secret.

You're wrong. Kapanadze uses solid 1 wire.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 11, 2020, 06:17:45 PM
Without getting too involved here would not harmonics fit into this Categorie of the drawn-out elastic band.

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 11, 2020, 06:25:01 PM
You welcomed with any  findings  thank you for that.However  you  didn't respond to my questions from above. Can you?

Мы приветствyeм вас с любыми выводами, спасибо вам за это.
Однако вы не ответили на мои вопросы сверху.
Ты можешь....прежде чем вы углубитесь в то,нa чем вы пытаетесь сосредоточить наше вимание??
Простой вопрос :
от  куда энергии берется и как
от  куда Энергия берется до того,и как она попадет на устройство.
Объяснить весь процесс

Wesley

DELAMORTO replied that it was an oscillatory circuit. They call it REKTIVKA, I think you know what it is.
The problem is that no one can get that power out of this circuit. It is only in calculations and measurements before loading. When you do load, the resonance falls and the circuit begins to operate normally.
Until the phases overlap, it looks like kW, that's why some see power here.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 11, 2020, 06:36:28 PM
r2fpl, да именно так, как сказал Капанадзе- никто не мог заставить его работать.
Весли, а по вашему что потребляет 60-100ват  в видео "Банка" ? Это накачка колебательного контура!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 12, 2020, 09:49:25 AM
https://youtu.be/-PMMK4KHXYU (https://youtu.be/-PMMK4KHXYU)
Have you gotten that Los Alamos radiation meter? Probably Opengheimer worked with this yet. :)
I also want this. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 12, 2020, 11:05:02 AM
  I now have a 250 watt, 2.2a, 4.1 ohm IR bulb running on my system.Bad thing is, brightness is only about 1/10 of what the actual output would be if the D.C. input was applied straight to the bulb. Power input is now 48v @ .85a---I received the OPA 549,it works fine but has a 30v limit,so Im using the OPA541 with its 40v limit pushed to 48v.Overall the  core still runs cool but the heat sink on the OPA is getting rather warm.I had to re-adjust for the 250 watt,now the IF is down to about 95 kHz from the previous 190 kHz,and the output at the bulb is now 45kHz from its previous 100kHz.There is one small area where the antennae adjusts,about 1 sq.in, where the bulb lights the brightess. The AM radio still has a clean signal with no static,but no stations can now be heard so I assume its over-riding the 455kHz IF.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 12, 2020, 11:45:37 AM
 Let me add this unusual fact about this---this 250 watt has  the same "color" or " brightness" as the 4watt I tried,the 20 watt, and the 125 watt,....It all appears as if the voltage is constant in all of these,but the amperage is what varies with the load, (that is just an observation) .....Why I cannot fully light a 4 watt / 125 volt bulb puzzles me when I can light, just as easily, this 250 watt bulb....But Im on the case...I have 45 KHz to go.
   This is the first time,as I recall , Ive seen such a frequency drop in my IF stage.Did not appear to drop before,but things changed when I tried the OPA549 and then switched back....I have noticed this drop  in earlier trials with this split core setup,but I was using Neon bulbs as the load in which case the voltage output kept going up,I had 1700v before the 7 watt stereo amp driver gave up (I think the 1700 volts back-flashed)..It was never the same after.
   Im not trying to "ramble", just letting anyone interested  know the data I have accumulated.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 13, 2020, 07:02:13 AM
I now have 375w hooked up ---(again, only 10% output / input ratio)---I have included some measurements taken direct from the antennaes ( L-coils ).
    Also ,the ground line I use is about 40 feet of what appears as silver coated, multi-strand, 2/0 wire.It was a little expensive but not the worst in price.
   The system did not drop in frequency adding the extra 125 watt,so I have not reached that limit yet I guess.I also found that with a smaller load the core output can be run off just one leg of the 150 turn cad. coil...Also, the IF stage can be eliminated too but a small load and careful tuning would be needed.
   I hooked up a 120v / 250 watt, 67 ohm heating element and it reached 125 deg F inside 15 minutes with an input of 48volts / .28amp..It will draw twice more amps but will not be as efficient. I can tell by the output on the scope when it resonates or does not. I guess the OPA541 absorbs this extra current, because I cannot find any where else it goes.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 13, 2020, 10:07:35 AM
What are these plates? Outlined in color.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: endlessoceans on January 15, 2020, 02:36:08 AM
This is a good example of an excess energy machine.  The process of which is defined clearly and has been replicated and exhibited in other patents and applications.

Clear explanation of known principles

No hogwash pseudoscience such as fancy waves and surface energy that Wesley goes no about

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160049839A1/en?assignee=Arion+Technologia+Brasil-Gestao+De+Ativos+S%2fA
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 15, 2020, 03:13:35 AM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160049839A1/en?assignee=Arion+Technologia+Brasil-Gestao+De+Ativos+S%2fA (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160049839A1/en?assignee=Arion+Technologia+Brasil-Gestao+De+Ativos+S%2fA)
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160049839A1/en?assignee=Arion+Technologia+Brasil-Gestao+De+Ativos+S%2fA#legalEvents

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 15, 2020, 09:56:04 AM
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160049839A1/en?assignee=Arion+Technologia+Brasil-Gestao+De+Ativos+S%2fA#legalEvents

Wesley

This guy only makes dummies. Others also confirm this.
I talked to him and asked why he did it. He replied that he had a purpose in what he was doing.
Just read the patent and then read how much MION reaches the ground to understand that the guy does not know what he is writing about.
I found in his movie the moment the device turns off before turning off. It looks like someone next to him turns the device off and on or is controlled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oYqjiiQJg
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 15, 2020, 10:06:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-mVLHf5ws4    =====   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5PtzEVMe7k

It is enough to understand that it is a transmission of energy. Wesley showed the same thing a year ago with a light bulb. Is this an FE? NO !

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 15, 2020, 01:41:44 PM
In the light of modern scientific view we all should know that energy can not be created or destroyed  so all devices must transmit and/or convert energy from one state to another , from one place to another.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 15, 2020, 01:58:14 PM
Quote
My friend Māris Slanārs, will give you 1000$ if you will make perpetum mobile device which lite up LED diode which will never ends!
What about this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho0_obiakM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ho0_obiakM)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 15, 2020, 02:02:51 PM
Now keeping that in mind how LC circuit can increase energy?
Common knowledge is that resonant tuned LC circuit multiply/increase voltage or amperage and its not at the cost of other like electrical transformer.
So what transmitts energy in to this circuit?
Thx
P.S.
If you object this point of view please direct me to publications that states this is not happening.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 15, 2020, 02:37:40 PM
Video with old man and swinging weight needs one old man energy.
:)
Or need energy of 1 slave.
:)
P.S. If we take electric-mechanic "arm", that energy will exeed power of "created energy", because of work.
The only man which I know is YT user "lasersaber" who made devices with very small consumption but with no real work capabilities. He use it for longlong time spiners or microAmp light emiters.
All devices consume power from power sources like Capacitors, SuperCapacitors, Batteries or Nuclear batteries.
Very interesting!!!!
But no Free Energy!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 15, 2020, 02:45:55 PM
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ansis
All devices consume power from power sources like Capacitors, SuperCapacitors, Batteries or Nuclear batteries.
Very interesting!!!!
But no Free Energy!
You cant consume something that cant be created or destroyed. Simple rule that changes whole logic
Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 15, 2020, 04:24:11 PM
You cant consume something that cant be created or destroyed. Simple rule that changes whole logic
Regards
SO WHAT HAS THAT GOT TO DO WITH ANYTHING HERE, This could be confusing but what I'm saying is a Generator just agitates
electrons magnetically (they don't really go anywhere) the same goes for ZP when they get excited  when they hit obstacles and get hot
they don't get manufactured or destroyed, but don't forget the sun generates magnetic radiation that's hitting the earth that's FE plus other radiation that can be absorbed and converted into something else.

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 15, 2020, 05:41:16 PM
Dear Raymondo

Do you know how pendulum works?
You put it in high potential state and release it.
Potential energy gets converted into kinetic energy.
Lets say there is no or minimum friction than all potential energy gets converted into kinetic energy and process repeats itself once there all energy gets converted because you created unbalance.  Nature, ambient needs ballance. So youre kinetic energy must convert into potential again.
GENERATOR it provides you with potantial energy always. You get kinetic energy only when you short the output.
If you were using up energy only in all devices why pendulum wont stop as soon as energies are equal? Instead it keeps going past balanced point and itself creates unbalance?
Potantial is the cause. Kinetic , amprege is only the result.
You can have potantial without kinetic energy amperage but you cant have amprege without potantial.
Broadcast station is not wasting energy radiating, it transfers energy back to ambient medium. Thats the purpose of radiation. Waveguide is much more efficient for energy transfer but not as convenient cause ambient is everywhere.
Go to tesla lectures he explains all of it much better than i am.
Thank you
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 16, 2020, 01:02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L--KkMFh7Y&feature=youtu.be
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 16, 2020, 03:27:31 PM
To Wesley.
Wkoncu cos zaczynasz kumac. ;D
Pozdrawiam
Any one Be aware, the legal term to understand means to admit and become a subordinate by entering a contract usually with the legal mafia.
I doubt this any different anywhere on the planet.

Regards Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 16, 2020, 08:26:44 PM
About video of Okki.
Earth ground is active after 100V AC.
It means Ground wire act as independent "pole" for AC circuits.
All schematics act with Ground wire like 0(ground).
If we push frequecy up, this will improve "connection".
I experiment with this kind of circuits.
After 200V AC, effect is much better.
But, we can't make Free Energy from it!
Circuit eat Current anyway.
But like I sad, we can make illusion of Free Energy, because Earth act like short circuit for AC one pole(ground).
I think Kapanadze find it and make circuit which create illusion of energy creation from "aether".
It is very spectacular in deed!
When we go to circus we pay money for show!
:)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 16, 2020, 08:42:18 PM
For better understanding we must know, Earth is full with "free Electrons"!
In OKKi experiment we see Current drop.
It means "ground electrons" go to another direction!
From ground to circuit!
Wait 1 minute and I'll find a movie about Lightning!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 16, 2020, 08:48:06 PM
https://youtu.be/RLWIBrweSU8
In the movie look at the Streamers from Earth!
Lightning come from Cloud, but Earth answer with "free electrons" from the Earth side!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 16, 2020, 08:57:40 PM
Dear Ansis i have an idea.
Please take 2 amp meters one single cell battery and a light buld ( 1.5v 0.25amp preffered)
Connect light bulb across battery in series with  both amp meters. As: positive pole of battery connects to amp meter [1] then amp meter to light bulb , light bulb to amp meter [2] and amp meter [2] to negative pole of battery.
Please observe the reading and tell me how many amp was consumed by the light bulb?
According to your post there should be more amps before current enters the light bulb then after current exits the load.
Quote
But, we can't make Free Energy from it!
Circuit eat Current anyway.
Thank you
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 17, 2020, 07:10:09 AM
Both Ampermeters in series give identical mesurements.
I don't understand joke.
:)
P.S. If you have good low resistance Ampmeters, everything is correct!
If you have high resistance Ampmeters, you can observ mismatch.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: groot on January 17, 2020, 01:24:49 PM
Thank you for your reply Ansis
Why you think im making a joke?
This simple experiment disprove your claim that circuit is "eating up" the current.
If you attach earth grounding will this make more current?
No? But wait what about all the free electrons you introduce to the circuit?
Earth grounding is a part of safety system of a circuit breaker. It gives a current safe path of low resistance so circuit breaker can activate and you dont get electrocuted.
This has nothing to do with free electrons in earth other than  low resistance conduction.
Tesla coil can be grounded. It performs better. Is it free electrons from earth? No its ground plain image that makes tesla coil perform better and not free earth electrons. Tesla coil is nothing more than 1/4 wave antenna. Only difference is that tesla coil radiate poorly compered to radio antenna.
I assume you compare current in a circuit to fluid that os accumulated in enclosed vessel and circuit is a bridge, pipe as you like to empty vessel.
If its so then current should be less then what it is before it enters the load. But is not and you just confirmed that.
This means that current is not a fluid that performs work and is being used up, converted in quantity.
Since your light bulb has specific resistance current can reach only level set by known laws of ohm.
If you use light bulb of lower resistance current will increase.
Does that means your battery can produce more current. ?
No it means current depands on resistance of the path , your bridge between dipole.
So why battery is being drained off current since it does not create current? Current my friend is only the effect of killing the dipole. Dipole does not create current, dipole creates condition of unballance that ambient medium try to fix by ballancing and effect of it is a current in a closed loop. Without closing the loop ambient cant react to presence of a dipole.
More to come if you are interested. No jokes only lessons.
Thank you
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 17, 2020, 01:46:42 PM
Your true is only in your Universe!
All Free Energy believers, make they'r own reality!
Dipole is negative and positive wave ballanced in the antena which is constructed for perfect match.
It is radio.
Dipole is AC if you want, every frequency have physical dimentions according with frequency.
Radio physics.
Nothing more.
P.S. I believe in Free electrons of the Earth and that is my crazyness if you want!
Free Energy is hox and I believe in that!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 17, 2020, 01:58:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ec7ba6vutg

see time 6:40 after all video
However, it doesn't matter because you need potential relative to the earth. I do not know the production method only + or - without costs.
If you find such a method I showed you when the electricity will come from the ground.

Are these your "free electrons" happy?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 17, 2020, 02:03:54 PM
Only V changes on the other side.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 17, 2020, 02:57:31 PM
Groot Thanks for your interesting analysis of how power can be taken from a battery, but what is happening is a chemical reaction is taking place and once the 'reaction' of consuming the fuel produced by that reaction the dipole will die. Unlike dielectric radiant electricity is eternal! Re Top Beardon reference.  Have a look on youtube  POT of GOLD I think what Wesley is trying to get across is explained in the last four videos.

Happy days!

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 19, 2020, 12:35:41 PM
Maybe someone try this?
It is well known as "resonance transformer".
Maybe here is someone who can tell - Yes, I try it and this is it! Or - No this is BS!
Thank you!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 19, 2020, 12:50:53 PM
And why in smart books about ferroresonance they write that when a ferromagnet is placed in a magnetic field, the spins of all electrons will be  oriented
in one direction ? And the sample shall magnetized.  But what about
Pauli’s principle that on the same orbital cannot be with the same spins ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 19, 2020, 04:37:19 PM
Maybe this will help you in your understanding?

http://aboveunity.com/thread/non-inductive-experiment/

This guy is a bit of a kook sometimes but he does good work.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 19, 2020, 06:53:10 PM
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My friend Māris Slanārs, will give you 1000$ if you will make perpetum mobile device which lite up LED diode which will never ends!
In general, this is to Rakarsky. It was he who offered a lot of flashlights.

p.s.
Quote
http://aboveunity.com/thread/non-inductive-experiment/
Thanks. think about it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 19, 2020, 08:15:45 PM
I work as far as possible.For me.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 22, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
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https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/174755/

The author mentions some sort of sawtooth impulse.
There are no sawtooth voltages in this circuit.
I made similar designs. There are only impulses, meander.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: DELAMORTO on January 24, 2020, 08:39:26 PM
Платите мне $100 один раз, но с каждого пользователя! Я открываю принцип Капанадзе!

Будем смеяться все!


Весли, я видео в личное пошлю, оно только для ваших глаз, как подтверждение этой схемы!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 26, 2020, 04:11:41 PM
Think you know what reality is? think again!
the real world of quantum mechanics, REALY? more like Scientific madness comes LIGHT what is it and how does it intertwine in our interest?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdBAf-ysI0
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 26, 2020, 06:14:56 PM
New intrigue! Even Kapanadze is surprised!
The fact that the Resonant circuit was dispersed, it is clear that the question was removed without disruption. I think by electrostatic induction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj7FHiXje8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X8G57ZAmds

Quote
At the time, Nikola Tesla plunged into an ocean of inexhaustible energy,and he saw how to use it.We also saw it.We were able to develop devices that transform this energy into radiant energy.To create radiant energy, you only need a pulse, the excitation of the medium,and then the device works by itself.With minimal energy consumption, we can excite an environment that can transform into an inexhaustible ocean of energy at the outlet.We have ready-made samples that we can provide for measurements and research, but only on our territory.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 26, 2020, 06:38:51 PM
New intrigue! Even Kapanadze is surprised!
The fact that the Resonant circuit was dispersed, it is clear that the question was removed without disruption. I think by electrostatic induction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sj7FHiXje8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X8G57ZAmds
Mr. Rakarskiy, I'm not sure what sort of device that is as it doesn't appear to have any  HV interrupter on view, do you have any more details on that device?

Regards Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 26, 2020, 08:17:06 PM
The point is simply I'm not going to buy the video and even if I got to see the video I simply wouldn't advertise the fact.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 05:28:49 AM
Question...  ???

What is he difference between the zero current node point of standing wave, on a unterminated or terminated line.

And the zero current node point of standing wave, on a unterminated or terminated bifilar line.

http://www.mysearch.org.uk/websiteX/html/4%20Spherical%20Standing%20Waves.htm

How does it feel to be an electron of proton at that particular point in space? Can this area be hacked?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 27, 2020, 10:53:13 AM
Mr. Rakarskiy, I'm not sure what sort of device that is as it doesn't appear to have any  HV interrupter on view, do you have any more details on that device?

Regards Raymondo

Why did you decide that there should be a spark gap? For parallel resonance (which is clearly visible in the device being demonstrated), a single key is sufficient, according to the quasi-resonant system (https://www.researchgate.net/figure/IGBT-based-parallel-quasi-resonant-inverter_fig1_298847631). (Any induction cooker works on this principle). What I was interested in was the technology for removing the swinging power (current + voltage) in the oscillating circuit.  For me, this is possible (the result of the calculation in the figure, the power supply scheme from A 12V battery and on a resonant coil). I do it myself, but I can't take off the swinging force yet. That's why I assumed that via capacitive transmission.

I am interested in devices that run on battery power and without grounding. One of the videos shown shows this episode. Closing this device in a self-propelled device is already a matter of engineering solutions. How much is really inexpensive to Download, for me the question is solved, but I can not delete, without the reaction of the source, yet. How real this moment is for the demonstrators, I can neither confirm nor deny.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2020, 11:32:35 AM
Hi! All these videos about 50Hz resonance buzz and "energy" suction "from ground wire" is only stealing from grid.
Remove your Power line and nothing will happen!
It is old scheme of energy stealing from power grid!
We take phase from Electric grid, than take Earth and we are stealing energy from grid!
Guys, don`t be stupid!
We can steal thousands of Watts!
With buzz or without!
Circus.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 27, 2020, 01:23:03 PM
Hi! All these videos about 50Hz resonance buzz and "energy" suction "from ground wire" is only stealing from grid.
Remove your Power line and nothing will happen!
It is old scheme of energy stealing from power grid!
We take phase from Electric grid, than take Earth and we are stealing energy from grid!
Guys, don`t be stupid!
We can steal thousands of Watts!
With buzz or without!
Circus.
Ansis hi, Your talking about something else, not everything with earth sucks energy from the grid, anyway the electric companies are out of date
and need to change they are destroying the planet with pollution of burning fossil fuel Henry Moray used an earth so where did he get his 'phase' from 100 miles out in the desert? he sucked power from the environment.

Besides How can anyone possibly steal electricity from the grid since it is metered to do what you're suggesting one (an idiot) would have to connect cables on the incoming meter input side (that's a suicide trip ot the flash could be blinding)!! and since the neutral is linked to earth it is at earth potential !! so there you go not possible in the west.

Raymondo


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2020, 02:47:10 PM
In old days my friend, which is not my friend anymore use that scheme and he pay 5Lats for electric bill but heat up all house...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 27, 2020, 03:56:22 PM
In old days my friend, which is not my friend anymore use that scheme and he pay 5Lats for the electric bill and heat up all house...
Not friend, oh dear  :'( it was the same here. Now have to use hot water bottle and cat to keep warm, sad isn't it?

When Wesley says no free lunch, he just saying that Science says there is no reality and Albert Einstien got it all wrong and as we get higher in frequency like the UV light spectrum we get a lot of free electrons in a WAVE like 911 bull shit, Professor Jim Al-Khalili proved it!
Sorry


Regards Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 04:15:19 PM
Ansis, most these new things have no earth.

Please answer question, what is differenc between standing wave and standing wave on a bifilar transmission line


Standing waves are waves of voltage and current which do not propagate (i.e. they are stationary), but are the result of interference between incident and reflected waves along a transmission line.

A node is a point on a standing wave of minimum amplitude.

An antinode is a point on a standing wave of maximum amplitude.

Standing waves can only exist in a transmission line when the terminating impedance does not match the line’s characteristic impedance. In a perfectly terminated line, there are no reflected waves, and therefore no standing waves at all.

At certain frequencies, the nodes and antinodes of standing waves will correlate with the ends of a transmission line, resulting in resonance.
The lowest-frequency resonant point on a transmission line is where the line is one quarter-wavelength long. Resonant points exist at every harmonic (integer-multiple) frequency of the fundamental (quarter-wavelength).

Standing wave ratio, or SWR, is the ratio of maximum standing wave amplitude to minimum standing wave amplitude. It may also be calculated by dividing termination impedance by characteristic impedance, or vice versa, which ever yields the greatest quotient. A line with no standing waves (perfectly matched: Zload to Z0) has an SWR equal to 1.

Transmission lines may be damaged by the high maximum amplitudes of standing waves. Voltage antinodes may break down insulation between conductors, and current antinodes may overheat conductors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAZVGVAUd3E
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2020, 04:40:44 PM
Agree.
But! We in terms of "Energy", speaking only about spending of energy!
Kapanadze in his tapes, go to sleep, but his son? (Gia) starts to speak out!
In that conversation he tell to his talk mate about "amplification of energy", which in fact we see in Turkey experiment. Kapanadze use Power grid for "amplification"?
Or is it just fake?
I think it is not so easy!
He is genius, but is he evil or lamb, we don't know.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 27, 2020, 04:42:42 PM
Agree.
But! We in terms of "Energy", speaking only about spending of energy!
Kapanadze in his tapes, go to sleep, but his son? (Gia) starts to speak out!
In that conversation he tell to his talk mate about "amplification of energy", which in fact we see in Turkey experiment. Kapanadze use Power grid for "amplification"?
Or is it just fake?
I think it is not so easy!
He is genius, but is he evil or lamb, we don't know.

He is probably just a gray jedi.

A bit like qui-gon jin.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2020, 04:56:21 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 27, 2020, 05:30:19 PM
All videos of Steven Mark torroidal transformer unit which is available in YT are beutifull!
Resonating wood core perpendicular winded transformer which is pulsed by 2 small toroidal generators, which working? so nicelly!
No one knows what it is!
I love it!
But, what it is?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 27, 2020, 10:58:02 PM
:)
Я могу бесплатно cделать на своем канале перевод видео материала,
который должен быть лучшего качества, но я мой друг не за деньги.
Никто не может купить меня, и я ничего не покупаю.
Но я  ecт деньги, так как я ключ к тем, кто уважает меня. вот как это  работает.
Мы, Запад, единственное место, которое вы можете  заинтересовать.
Так что я даю вам возможность быть видимым миру.
Достаточно ясно, чтобы сказать, что я никогда не буду вашим клиентом.
При всем уважении, Delamorto. Вот почему люди доверяют мне и ценят мое мнение.
Yes  I agree and you can add me in with that too.

Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 28, 2020, 12:28:45 AM

https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ  (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ)
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ)
https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw

 (https://youtu.be/yNs2wc8nRJw)

 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 01:33:04 AM
Delamorto, I suggest you offer individual counseling and videos to private builders who will pay you 5000$.

There is nothing against the law in this.

Your circuit.... You are just LUCKY to be a russian speaker.

You got lucky, is what I think. Might you share the luck with me for a fee?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 28, 2020, 06:46:05 AM
I examined Tariel  Kapanadze device  in Tbilisi and  I didn't find fake there.
9 years after my return  from Tbilisi I found explanation  of Kapanadze in Viziv.
But Dr James Corum and his even more  brilliant brother Kenneth Corum  didn't go officially that far.
Your problem my dear Friends is that you are waiting for someone to leak it to you.
You  have it in front of your eyes and likely none of you wants to try it out.
My 3 videos says it all.
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ  (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ)
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&feature=youtu.be)

Indeed, we can say that you held the Kapanadze device (KAPAGENERATOR) in your hands, you explain how it works, the work done in this area as a researcher is impressive and deserves respect. I assume this is your version of how it might work.
There is one interview with Tariel (https://yadi.sk/i/lLMDf5utvwvBNg), where He claims that the closest approach to his principle was made by Andrey Melnichenko (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg) (whose last scheme is a reverse-pass Converter with a OU conversion effect). Tariel also has a Converter.  Forward or reverse, the Converter is a DC/DC class. The spark gap is the key for the pulses in the Converter circuit. There is a version that Tariel in Soviet times, in a Research Institute of the USSR, was in charge of the economic part, and concurrently responsible for the Archive. This Institute was engaged in the development of gravitational aircraft. And this effect was discovered by them accidentally or developed for the energy source of such an aircraft device.
I think the formula of the Kapanadze device is simple, the Ohm's law must be triggered In the secondary circuit for the full circuit.  There are several devices that intersect and one of them is the "Tricky zatsarinin transformer (https://www.skif.biz/files/28995a.pdf)", but Sergei Borisovich has it running on alternating current. 
Researchers have not yet solved the principle of operation of the tricky transformer and Kapanadze Converter.  Zacarinin, (claiming that the principle of operation of the device can be made in several variants) has filed a patent application. Unfortunately, this patent has not been publicly available since 2008, and more than 10 years have passed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 28, 2020, 11:48:57 AM
Probably in the RU 2412520 paper is Zatsarinin transformer knowledge incorporated.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 28, 2020, 03:21:26 PM
rakarsky,related "Ohms ( and Fourier) law" : Prof. Michal Lipson ,Columbia Engineering
macro-scale versus nano-scale "Nanoscale heat transfer 100 times stronger than previously thought
( all about circuits : April 05,2016 from nature nanotechnology March 07,2016 )
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 28, 2020, 03:30:08 PM
rakarsky,related "Ohms ( and Fourier) law" : Prof. Michal Lipson ,Columbia Engineering
macro-scale versus nano-scale "Nanoscale heat transfer 100 times stronger than previously thought
( all about circuits : April 05,2016 from nature nanotechnology March 07,2016 )
Ohm's law (https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6f/60/36/6f6036bf97e23bba134617b751e29159.jpg) is an empirical physical law that determines the ratio of the electromotive force of a source
(or electric voltage) to the current flowing in a conductor and the resistance of the conductor. Founded by
Georg Ohm in 1826 (published in 1827) and named after Him. By the way, this is not a fundamental law of physics,
but a special case. This is our University physics.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 03:39:59 PM
May I use your collective minds for an instance?

https://overunity.com/18325/creating-tpu-steven_mark/msg542361/#msg542361

Please.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 28, 2020, 03:41:51 PM
But when in nanoscale a macroscale experiment ruled by "Ohmsche Gesetz-es-Vorgabe" gives different result,-up to 10000% different - we have to explain the " nanoscale universal physics" !
Some years before the science discovered similar anomalies in carbon nano-tubes ( CNT  ) ! VELOCITY !

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 03:56:16 PM
How is it that a medium sized supercap can cause this reaction?

Its a force multiplier on the first pulse, series of pulse, this can only be done with echo wave technology create hole for cheaper.

The node has a density wave, its not current, its the "probability of current" in a weakened field. How is this good for us?

What does it mean to "associate with the earth". How can something be affected by such a weak magnetic field?

Simply wondering why the TPU and Schwartz have this, and multiple frequencies?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 28, 2020, 05:44:44 PM
Here is an article about power transmission according to Tesla and VIZIV now.

https://www.quora.com/Are-there-any-research-papers-of-Nikola-Tesla-that-suggest-he-was-working-on-wireless-electricity


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 28, 2020, 06:36:53 PM
Not my quote, but very important-Kapanadze said: "his device, not fully invented by him, but skillfully compatible, the generator consumes 40 watts, and gives 5000 watts" adjusted for the video, the gene eats about 70 Watts, gives 2600 watts fact!
Kapanadze said: "the generator does not respond to load changes in the widest range, up to a sudden shutdown of this." At the same time, it turned off the load, and then turned it on when the gene was working. Fact!

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
On a Philosophical level,

How does one end of the circuit know that one end of the circuit is an open circuit? Once its P Mosfet turns on.

The same way, how does water know one end of the pipe is welded shut?

This is a factor of time, charging up, and a counter acting force, or Impedance, wich communicates back to Source, Its a NO-GO.

Now Imagine, You send a wave, and right at the sweet spot, You steal all the electrons with an impulse field.

How does the system react? Is this still a High Impedance circuit?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 28, 2020, 10:30:15 PM
Well, I guess you dont know for sure.

Of course you would not know the exact answer to this particular situation.

This is like asking you what is the source of energy.

You dont know...You say you know, or do you?

Do I even know? Dam... This is confusing.

It is destructive interference, I believe.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 01:01:09 AM
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/23930/what-happens-to-the-energy-when-waves-perfectly-cancel-each-other

Yeah I know that... But what about when there is not even a magnetic field?

Does stuff blow up and go sideways like trains colliding?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on January 29, 2020, 01:13:17 AM
Oh, silly me.

It seems you dont know the answer, because there is no answer.

Pardon my ignorance.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When there is a complete destructive interference of two light beams, Maxwell’s equations predict that the energy becomes zero. Let’s have the case of two coherent collinear beams, out of phase 180 degrees, like the case of the antilaser.

E1=Emsin(kx−ωt);E2=Emsin(kx−ωt+p)B1=Bmsin(kx−ωt);B2=Bmsin(kx−ωt+p)
E=E1+E2 and B=B1+B2
EB=Emsin(kx−ωt)+Emsin(kx−ωt+p)=Bmsin(kx−ωt)+Bmsin(kx−ωt+p)
But, sin(kx−ωt+p)=−sin(kx–ωt) , Then, E=0 and B=0 and,

UT=UE+UB=12ԑ0E2+12μ0B2=0
This is the classical interpretation of the waves electromagnetism during total destructive interference, following Maxwell. Maxwell's description of the energy of the light wave is of an undulating energy that predictably reaches a maximum and later becomes zero. The proposed solution to this problem is to calculate the mean of the energy when the fields are maxima.

What is the physical meaning of an energy that have to be averaged in order to have the real magnitude. If the principle of conservation of energy is to be applied to this phenomenon, the energy must be constant, have an unique value for each instant during the movement of the wave. What is the meaning of that situation that has not been recognized for more than a century?

What almost nobody want to admit is that electromagnetism is incomplete, because cannot describe the electromagnetic radiation adequately, and generate a violation of the principle of conservation of energy.

As Helder Velez said: “We don’t have theory?”. NO Then we must rethink.” He has a proposition: EM energy is not transported, only is an excitation of the medium, the quantum vacuum, or the quantum plenum as I prefer to call it. But this is only an id
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 29, 2020, 08:25:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAbGzwLh2QE&feature=emb_title
Quote
Fuel-free generator for electric car 5kW on IR2153

Quote
Alexander Stupnikov is looking for the police, he sold broken generators.


Here is another author Alexander Stupnikov, his blog on YouTube is empty today.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP1Iy4__2vn5yRlWSbMX9Bw/videos

I tried to find at least one episode with the sale of this device, or a police summary where this person is listed as wanted. There are no confirmations For or against the device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 29, 2020, 09:10:32 AM
What planet have you been living on?  this guy did a blog on OU not so long ago he is now living in India trying to find investors, should be fun.
why doesn't he just give it away? He has made the dam thing so complicated it's a white elephant in the living room to anyone who gets involved.

Ask just a whatt about it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 29, 2020, 09:37:06 AM
What planet have you been living on?  this guy did a blog on OU not so long ago he is now living in India trying to find investors, should be fun.
why doesn't he just give it away? Ge has made the dam thing so complicated it's a white elephant in the living room to anyone who gets involved.

Ask just a whatt about it.
In which India? He is from Ukraine, and the photo of the diagram made by his hand shows his contact phone number. For an international call, dial +38 before the number
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 29, 2020, 09:55:22 AM
  I managed to trim down this resonant system and put flat magnets in between the 2 ferrite halves (they dont seem to hurt nor help so ..)..I no longer need the IF section.My feedback capacitor was leaking due to overvolting also...Here are the new pics and data.....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 29, 2020, 11:01:12 AM
Sir..Can you please resize images...entire page becomes unreadable ....[yes Stefan should have method to fix this ??]running back and forth to read makes it very difficult thx Chet
images from above on one page
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on January 29, 2020, 12:02:41 PM
Small recomendations from me about efficiency.
Induction is Energy wasting.
All 90% efficient coils are closed type or with very big cores.
We need get inducive kick, to make induction, which is main reason for Inductive energy transfer.
All Tesla coils are creating very big energy field, which is Energy wasting.
How I see "energy amplification"?
All Kapanadze type devices have hiden source of electricity 100%.
Is it Power line or LiPo, but it is fact!
Second.
If we create artifical Magnetic Field, which is 10, 100, 1000 times biger than normal Induction force made by Induction itself, than we can get artifical Secondary Voltage, but!!! How to do that?
How?
In Kapanadzes video, where is aquarium in the garage, there is 2, 12V 7A, lead acid batteries, which is making illusion of Free Energy. There is TC, big! This is for creating big Impulses for Primary impulse. Than, we see many HiFrequency TV type transformers-recievers, which is main collectors. Than "ground wire" and secret energy mixer, which is neccesary to make sinhronisation betwee all that, because of energy transfering- recieving. But, all that is trick! After 10 houres all is flat. It is for money making! :(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on January 29, 2020, 03:55:44 PM
Probably "Kirchhoffs laws" are giving answer ,beside circuits also thermal radiation related
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on January 29, 2020, 04:37:29 PM
The answer is that the energy is gone, and when perfectly destructive.

I dont understand why maxwell would say the energy si zero is there is heat energy.

I will have to review it, did you read above?

Yes heat, probably, I guess, that would be the immediate answer from the internet, I will stop my searches.

Maxwell was disturbed by this, I dont think he would be disturbed if it was All heat.
What are you like? you trust the word of a polytical polatician b (sad) ;D ;D What is heat? hmm? it's a vibration!  the Atom is the Bullshiter!
go back to school that man, start here > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jim+al-khalili
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: rakarskiy on January 30, 2020, 07:49:06 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anvb_PXG1YA&feature=emb_title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKjgMmZcFA0

2014, demonstration of a resonant transducer. Westley, this guy must be a Russian-speaking provocateur again.

It probably uses a similar scheme for swinging the contour: http://pikucha.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Jelektricheskaja-shema-indukcionnogo-nagrevatelja.jpg

The guy tells how he removes, and calculates the resonance of the secondary circuit and demonstrates the work on the load. Unfortunately, it does not demonstrate the consumption of the reference resonant circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on February 01, 2020, 04:37:55 PM
Wesley, from what American device is this board? Presumably a device of the 60s.
It was abducted by me a very long time. But the device is still older. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Toolofcortex on February 01, 2020, 04:46:13 PM
https://www.cryptomuseum.com/df/1100ar/index.htm (https://www.cryptomuseum.com/df/1100ar/index.htm)
moderated
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on February 02, 2020, 08:56:18 AM
https://www.cryptomuseum.com/df/1100ar/index.htm
Thanks for the interesting site. But it seems to me there were digital indicators. And the performance is desktop, not in the rack.Although it seems that it was in a past life ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on February 02, 2020, 11:56:10 AM
  Well I do not know what is going on with this device.....it is now running on a minimum... 2 induction coils, 1/2 ferrite core, 1 diode , 2 capacitors and the OPA541,plus heavy grounds...and I have the same output with 1/2 the core missing...It now starts with momentarily touching the dipole ground to the 1/2 core,15 turn winding.....The output of the core is now one wire which goes through a .3 micro-farad capacitor which itself runs cold.The single diode gets warm but can be held in the fingers, yet tries to light 370watts of bulb power.The core also does not appear to be warming up....The OPA541 is running 44.8 volts @ .8 amp @ 85 kHz now and must be somehow powering those bulbs through that small .3uF capacitor---I can feel the heat radiating from the orange filaments.I do have a heavy ground connected to the diode and the OPA541...If the induction coils are moved too far away,the system shuts down and will not restart until the dipole ground is again touched to the core winding.The ground can stay attached or removed--makes no difference.
It does appear though that both capacitors play a significant role in the resonant core.I know the coils do.I adjusted the capacitors,a month ago, for maximum output, and minimum capacitance for the 14 watt bulb I was using.
    Now here, I removed the second half of the core while it was running, I held the second half of the core to the first half and felt the buzzing from them as they tried to connect.I then decided to try just the one half (15 turn half) and it lit the bulbs,I then removed the ground side and the bulbs stayed lit. So I am now down to one wire trying to light 370 watts. Bulbs colour and brightness have not seemed to have changed as when I had all that other attached,but the frequency of the system has went from 65kHz to about 80 kHz.OPA541 can be ran without its fan for cooling but appears to warm up over time------------- ..Note this is an ongoing project and I can only tell you what I have discovered....Schematic is correct as I believe it to be.Nothing hidden.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on February 03, 2020, 11:30:12 PM
I posted a bit too soon it seems because my system no longer uses the small caps,nor does it need a momentary contact--it starts as always by adjusting the bi-fi-coil,of which 1 is only required but 2 gives it a boost.And the bi-fi- hookup lines have been reduced only because it made no difference in output that I notice,so I left those off too.It is much more streamlined for a given output.----The ground line---that has a big influence I now notice...The system will not run with a flat copper cable line to the copper water pipes,I tried...It uses a 40 ft. line, of 2/0 silver coated,multi strand cable ,clamped  to a 3 foot copper pipe hammered into the ground...System appears to run the same without all the extra baggage.System resonance has dropped to about 54 kHz from 65 kHz.Still uses a single diode.System will not start nor run without the 1/2 core attached with its dangling wire.It will run with either the 15 or 150 (cadaceous) coil/core attached,despite the wire to nowhere.The core gives out a stronger field with a larger load..... RWG Research on You-Tube makes similar induction coils if your curious where to find them.Im sure he still makes them.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on February 04, 2020, 05:14:28 PM
This is interesting!
https://youtu.be/jHK7kKsVVw0
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2020, 03:44:39 AM
Yes it is interesting.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on February 08, 2020, 03:13:07 AM
Ok..looks like a fail...it lights the bulb without the core @ 35kHz. I tried 3 different core winding combinations and they all responded about the same,which made me wonder.So I removed the core and used a straight hookup ---Im sure I tried this earlier and it did not work.This time the bulb lights...Back to the drawing board !!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 14, 2020, 02:41:22 AM
Quote of Mark comment:

Quote
All of the answers for you is provided by guy name Wesley in his 3 videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&t=277s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNs2wc8nRJw&t=277s)
his youtube is  -   stivep1
For more detailed technical aspects go to 
Start  up or down from here
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg533486/#msg533486 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg533486/#msg533486)

Zenneck wave is transferred from Top capacitor of Tesla air Transformer, at Brewster angle  to Earth/Air interface.
That wave doesn't  propagate in FAR Field.
We may describe it as :
 Wave from group of Surface Waves
-type Zenneck Wave
mode: TM mode ( Transverse Magnetic. )

And that wave in Fresnel zone between Near Field and Far Field at angle  around ~67 degrees  is trapped in the interface.
The receiver looks exactly the same as transmitter.
Receiver can be placed at any point of the earth or ocean.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Viziv  with  PhD J.Corum and K Corum ( brothers)  and involvement of Chevron  plays with Tx-Rx energy transfer.
But Schumann Waveguide by its own energy fluctuation inside of that Waveguide  triggered by lightnings  has two boundaries
-Earth
-Ionosphere

The Earth is accessible to us.
If at Brewster angle  energy is deposited   to that boundary as  Zenneck Wave at TM mode ,- this energy is trapped in the INTERFACE earth/air.
For simplicity think of it as 2D space around the earth.
Than this energy can be  "extracted" - (received)  by a Tesla coil with Top Capacitor   tuned to  this particular frequency.
 more you will find in links attached to this comment . 

Dear Mark you absolutely correct
thank you

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on February 19, 2020, 11:25:55 PM
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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on February 20, 2020, 09:37:51 PM
 I found a "recent"  (2013) patent that uses an interesting device for either testing or for use..It is the device,that I find interesting.The patent itself describes a process
for making GHz ferrite.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 21, 2020, 09:01:41 PM
http://www.hatz.hr/hrv/skupovi/tesla_unesco_proceedings.pdf
the only  interesting  was page 53
and cavity filters
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on March 16, 2020, 10:38:13 AM
https://youtu.be/pFEB0chiuJA
This link is about horns, but maybe something else too?!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 28, 2020, 07:55:58 PM
this is interesting  Ukrainian  work
by
Dean of Ukrainian University  of Schevchenko in Kiev
member of Academy of science



It is related to
Effective LENR and transmutation of stable and radioactive isotopes in growing biological systems
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128159446000129 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128159446000129)

https://youtu.be/k43a8Zd3S5s?list=PLkL_orlZx-99ABvz_7ws_Ibs4OEtybY1n&t=311 (https://youtu.be/k43a8Zd3S5s?list=PLkL_orlZx-99ABvz_7ws_Ibs4OEtybY1n&t=311)


this one is  in English/ heavy accent
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1en1E2s-gbM
ICCF-18 : Jean-Paul Biberian and Vladimir Vysotskii  "Transmutations in ..."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hxFbuGr48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0hxFbuGr48)
Elementu transmutācija = Трансмутация элементов = Transmutation of elements
___________________________________________________________________


 

some links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNdlN4QEhfw
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNdlN4QEhfw)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pJyNE-LIUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ght_bhaoKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOHSMWh2Dxs
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pJyNE-LIUY)https://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PoM-62aII
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TbFaKfYZ8U
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYwkd4_1aaY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYwkd4_1aaY) russian only

Joachim Knebel - Breaking the Wall of High Level Nuclear Waste @Falling Walls 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwtylygTLAU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwtylygTLAU)


Idea: Complementary Transmutation Nuclear Reactor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbMvoL5T3uM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbMvoL5T3uM)

Mrs. KJ Explains: Sem. 2; 8.06 Transmutation of Elements
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXJWXL2F0gY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbMvoL5T3uM)

ICCF22 - Nuclear Transmutation with Carbon and Oxyhydrogen Plasma - Slobodan Stankovic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQIO-L7Tic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkQIO-L7Tic)

this one is  different in nature and don't take it to seriously however it is nicely done
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlGzt9ur1bY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlGzt9ur1bY)

 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on March 28, 2020, 11:12:16 PM
Hi Wesley,
Just an addition: a search on their book "Transmutation of Stable and Radioactive Isotopes in Biological Systems"
reveals a presentation on "the short prehistory, phenomenology, experiments, reasons and perspectives",
see here: 
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36823/TransmutationStableRadioactivePresentation.pdf   

Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 29, 2020, 12:06:08 AM
Hi Wesley,
Just an addition: a search on their book "Transmutation of Stable and Radioactive Isotopes in Biological Systems"
reveals a presentation on "the short prehistory, phenomenology, experiments, reasons and perspectives",
see here: 
https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36823/TransmutationStableRadioactivePresentation.pdf (https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36823/TransmutationStableRadioactivePresentation.pdf)   

Gyula
Yes  you found  original article of  .Dr  VladimirVysotskii
Thank You
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Stela on April 05, 2020, 10:39:34 AM
FULL HD Kapanadze self runing 5 KW Autonome : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYwnOCWOws&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQYwnOCWOws&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 10, 2020, 06:24:22 PM
New developement  about Viziv Technology in response to Mark comment :
https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/#comment-6223868 (https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/#comment-6223868)

PART#1
Quote
George says:April 2, 2020 at 8:43 pm (https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/#comment-6234066)Let me try to clear the air here.
I worked for a company that invested in this and I had the opportunity to visit this site.
I got to see first hand over 1KW (a one HP motor was operating with no interconnecting wires)
received at over 1km. This was using one of the smaller devices, not the big tower.
The big tower was under construction and was testing using just a few watts..
The small tower/device was running about 5KW from a AM broadcast transmitter.
This project is real and there is no magic.
The Corum’s are first rate scientists and have been identified by the US government
as a national resource with their work at Airforce Cambridge.
I had the chance to talk with them at the Viziv/Texzon facility.
They are considered THE authority on Tesla’s RF work and Ball Lightning by the
Russians and Americans both.
They indicated that they had full access to all the Tesla documents in Belgrade
while working with the 1st and 2nd directors and hinted there is nothing at Wright Pat.
They made it clear the work in Milford is to basically make and “extension cord”
for power and global communications with very low power and phased arrays for location.
There is no free energy nonsense. Their calm is that they discovered how to produce a
Zenneck Surface wave by illuminating the ground with RF fields at the Brewster angle.
A Zenneck wave drops off as one over the square root of the distance.
However when a load is connected to earth all the power went to the load with minor losses.
During the presentation they indicated it was much the same as using teledeltos paper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledeltos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledeltos)

PART#2
Quote
They showed us a laser pointer reflected off the conference room table, at the Brewster angle
there was no reflection.
But, if you looked along the edge of the table the light was very bright.
They explained the light energy was trapped along the surface of the table.
 They spent 40 years trying to figure out how to do the same thing with RF.
They indicated the obstacle was the earth dirt around the tower.
Apparently the dirt was frequency sensitive and it made the Brewster angle non real and complicated.
That was when they lost me.
Some how they made a complicated Brewster angle by playing
with the phase between the vertical and horizontal parts of the local RF fields.
This somehow this made an infinite plane.
I hope some day they publish what is behind all the patents.
They did not mention anything about Schumann resonance as you have alluded to above.
They only said their wave guide was one sided just the ground and they work very hard to prevent radiation.
Their real joy was the the replication of an experiment done by Bell Labs in the mid 30s.
The Corum’s were able to demonstrate that the 1930s experiment was incomplete.
 
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf)

PART#3
Quote
They replicated what Bell Labs did and then demonstrated that if the radiation was removed
by making the structure very small and the RF fields were just so for the water, a ZenneckSurface
wave could be produced.
That proved that Zenneck and Sommerfield were right back around 1910.
With Zenneck waves there are no near and far fields, just a traveling wave with very low loss.
From what I was able to get out of the presentation regarding Tesla was that they had reproduced
Tesla’s Colorado Springs experiment and sent power 25 miles.
They were quite adamant that thereare no Tesla secrets and no cover ups.
Everything you need is in the existing Tesla literature.
What is not in the literature is the “how does it work”.
That is in their patents and 40 years of hard labor.
One of the Corum’s had a big sign in his office,Do what Tesla tells you to do and you get the same results.
Don’t try to do what you think Tesla did (something like that).
There was also a working replica of one of Tesla receivers in his office.
It was the same one he used to listen to the Jovian decametric signals and hear one, two, three.
There was also a working replica of the “eagle bug” from the great seal from the US embassy in Russia.
Who knows what else they are working on…
It was a fascinating day spent at Milford, TX.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 10, 2020, 08:22:38 PM
New developement  about Viziv Technology in response to Mark comment :
https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/#comment-6223868 (https://hackaday.com/2019/11/20/texas-tesla-tower-titillates/#comment-6223868)
Wesley's translation  from English into Russian:


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Джордж говорит 2 апреля 2020 года в 8 43 вечера.
Позвольте мне попытаться очистить воздух здесь.
Я работал в компании, которая инвестировала в это, и у меня была возможность посетить этот сайт.
Я увидел из первых рук более 1 кВт (двигатель мощностью один л.с. работал без соединительных проводов) на расстоянии более 1 км.
Это было использование одного из небольших устройств, а не большой башни.


Большая башня строилась и тестировалась с использованием всего лишь нескольких ватт.
Небольшая башня / устройство работала на расстоянии около 5 кВт от передатчика AM-вещания. Этот проект настоящий и в нем нет магии.


«Корум» - это первоклассные ученые, и правительство США определило их как национальный ресурс для своей работы в ВВС Кембридж.
У меня была возможность поговорить с ними на объекте Визив / Тексон. Они считаются авторитетом в работе
Теслы в РФ и Ball Lightning как русскими, так и американцами.
Они указали, что имеют полный доступ ко всем документам Тесла в Белграде
во время работы с 1-м и 2-м режиссерами и намекнул, что у. Wright Pat. ничего нет


Они дали понять, что работа в Милфорде состоит в том, чтобы в основном сделать и «удлинитель»
для  глобальных коммуникаций с очень малой мощностью  и фазовыми переходами.
Там нет бессмыслицы свободной энергии
они обнаружили, как производить волну поверхности Зеннека, освещая землю <радиочастотными полями> под углом Брюстера.


Однако, когда нагрузка подключена к земле, вся мощность пошла на нагрузку с небольшими потерями
Во время презентации они указали, что это почти то же самое, что и использование бумаги для теледотов.
teledeltos paper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledeltos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teledeltos)



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Они показали нам лазерную указку, отраженную от стола в конференц-зале,
под углом Брюстера
отражения не было.
Но если вы посмотрите вдоль края стола, свет был очень ярким.
Они объяснили, что световая энергия была захвачена вдоль поверхности стола.


Они потратили 40 лет, пытаясь понять, как сделать то же самое с РФ. Они указали, что препятствием была <земляная грязь вокруг башни>
 Очевидно, грязь чувствительна к частоте, и это делало угол Брюстера нереальным и сложным.


Это было, когда они
<потеряли меня.>=(Они потеряли мое внимание)
 
Некоторым образом они сделали сложный угол Брюстера, играя с фазой между вертикальной и горизонтальной
частями локальных радиочастотных полей.
Это каким-то образом сделало бесконечную плоскость.
Я надеюсь, что когда-нибудь они опубликуют то, что стоит за всеми патентами.


Они ничего не упоминали о резонансе Шумана, как вы упоминали выше. Они только сказали, что их волновод
был только односторонним, и они очень усердно работают, чтобы предотвратить излучение.
Их настоящей радостью было повторение эксперимента, проведенного Bell Labs в середине 30-х годов.


Корум смог продемонстрировать, что эксперимент 1930-х годов был неполным.
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf)



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Они повторили то, что сделали Bell Labs, а затем продемонстрировали, что, если излучение было удалено,
сделав структуру очень маленькой, а радиочастотные поля были точно такими же, как для воды,
то можно было бы создать волну Zenneck


Это доказало, что Zenneck и Sommerfield были правильны обратный приблизительно в 1910
 С волнами Ценнека нет ближних и дальних полей, только бегущая волна с очень малыми потерями.
 Из того, что я смог извлечь из презентации, касающейся Теслы, я узнал, что они воспроизвели эксперимент
Теслы в Колорадо-Спрингс и отправили мощность в 25 миль. (40.2336 km).


Они были совершенно непреклонны в том, что нет секретов Теслы и нет прикрытий. Все, что вам нужно,
в существующей литературе Тесла. В литературе нет «как это работает». Вот в их патентах и 40 лет каторжных работ.


У одного из Корумов был большой знак в его офисе: делай то, что Тесла говорит тебе делать, и ты получаешь те же результаты.
Не пытайтесь делать то, что, по вашему мнению, сделал Тесла (что-то подобное). В его офисе была также рабочая копия одного из приемников Теслы.


Это был тот же самый, который он использовал, чтобы слушать декаметрические сигналы
Юпитера и слышать один, два, три. Была также рабочая копия «орлиного жука» с большой печати посольства США в России.
Кто знает, над чем еще они работают ... Это был восхитительный день, проведенный в Милфорде, Техас.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 10, 2020, 09:06:25 PM
*Thank you my friend.*
 speedy 125 has gave us new piece of information.

Some news about NMR , I was find something ,
 (... Actual evidence of nuclear electric resonance has now been discovered by accident in a lab at the University of New South Wales (UNSW) in Australia,
thanks to faulty equipment.
The breakthrough gives scientists a new level of control over nuclei, and could seriously speed up the development of quantum computers. ... )

https://www.sciencealert.com/in-an-accidental-discovery-australian-engineers-solve-58-year-old-quantum-mystery?fbclid=IwAR1TFgv7GLiBo9HcZoNaskzjmLof3uWhc9aFf0e548CHmH7eMgSGGPIv7VA (https://www.sciencealert.com/in-an-accidental-discovery-australian-engineers-solve-58-year-old-quantum-mystery?fbclid=IwAR1TFgv7GLiBo9HcZoNaskzjmLof3uWhc9aFf0e548CHmH7eMgSGGPIv7VA)

also,

Article
Published: 11 March 2020
Coherent electrical control of a single high-spin nucleus in silicon

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2057-7 (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2057-7)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 20, 2020, 04:48:51 AM
#3171: yes,nice optimation potential for silicon nano-grain-dots as ink for surface printing !

https://www.sciencealert.com/in-an-accidental-discovery-australian-engineers-solve-58-year-old-quantum-mystery?fbclid=IwAR1TFgv7GLiBo9HcZoNaskzjmLof3uWhc9aFf0e548CHmH7eMgSGGPIv7VA (https://www.sciencealert.com/in-an-accidental-discovery-australian-engineers-solve-58-year-old-quantum-mystery?fbclid=IwAR1TFgv7GLiBo9HcZoNaskzjmLof3uWhc9aFf0e548CHmH7eMgSGGPIv7VA)
I would as research tool combine with
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890201&CC=DD&NR=264511A1&KC=A1 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=6&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890201&CC=DD&NR=264511A1&KC=A1)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870603&CC=DD&NR=246367A5&KC=A5 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870603&CC=DD&NR=246367A5&KC=A5)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT
=D&date=19860730&CC=DD&NR=237897A5&KC=A5 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860730&CC=DD&NR=237897A5&KC=A5)
I mean Stockholm Nobelprize-work level ,Manfred Alexander Gregor his discoveries !
What me wonders about the Viziv technology is their fixation ,as tower !
The russian AIRHES idea as flowing ballons/zeppelins/cigars would giving beside water,electric energy also a
emitting and receiving body(great absorption and reflecting field) for telecommunication !Thin kevlar film ?
https://airhes.com/ (https://airhes.com/)           
https://newatlas.com/air-hes-cloud-power-clean-water-energy-vapor/33512/ (https://newatlas.com/air-hes-cloud-power-clean-water-energy-vapor/33512/)
Inflatable -cool earth- like concepts ?  https://www.coolearthsolar.com/ (https://www.coolearthsolar.com/)
Remembers me also Otto von Traun and Prof.Herman Plauson their ballon concept !
http://www.mareasistemi.com/DIDATTICA%2027/Hermann%20Plauson%20%20Conversion%20of%20Atmospheric%20Electricity%20%28Articles%20&%20patents%29.htm (http://www.mareasistemi.com/DIDATTICA%2027/Hermann%20Plauson%20%20Conversion%20of%20Atmospheric%20Electricity%20%28Articles%20&%20patents%29.htm)
Body with solar dot ink ?
And 24/365 topic Owen P. Barker solar cell use for telecommunication US5009243   https://patents.google.com/patent/US5009243A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US5009243A/en)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 28, 2020, 06:36:12 PM
Some Corum documents found.

corum
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2020, 07:44:56 PM
this file in RAR  is asking for password
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Void on April 28, 2020, 09:39:13 PM
this file in RAR  is asking for password
Wesley

Dear Wesley. The password for the RAR file is corum.

All the best...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on May 14, 2020, 06:56:23 AM
Wesley...I got this antennae system to operate into transformers, a small 240 to 24v & smaller 120 to (12v + 12v)....they connected in reverse but they both can light up 40w of bulb power pretty good.Im including the schem and pic.I tried a microwave transformer - connected forward- but had little luck,will try again later.------Have you ever tried to align a satellite dish using only a hand compass? I have.And that is what this system is akin to.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on May 14, 2020, 12:28:51 PM
That 680uF cap can be bypassed as I am not sure that is how was connected now---it will run without it but less output. But my system has just dropped out since testing larger transformers.I put the 240v TFMR back on and it blew the diode (somehow). Now I am having other problems as it will not link-up nor respond to movement.I have had the whole thing apart starting from scratch---It ran for a couple seconds with the 14 watt then that was it--blew that diode,could be the OPA amp but its power lights are on.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on May 15, 2020, 02:20:01 AM
It blew the OPA541 amp and the diode,------I replaced both then it blew another diode...again replaced .But it still will not even try to run through a transformer,nothing.it shows the current moving through but it will not even dim the bulb.Ive checked everything over and over,so its back to basics... Also,not shown earlier ,the OPA amp DOES require an external gnd at the output side else it will not tune in this system.Im including a "basic" system setup which worked just to give an idea what Im doing.The transformers was an afterthought.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 29, 2020, 07:32:59 AM

Part 1 EEV blog criticism creates  protest  of   FE community
https://youtu.be/l6uPHxQVEgQ  (https://youtu.be/l6uPHxQVEgQ)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2020, 11:42:28 PM
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU  (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU)

Understanding of energy  conversion, extraction, transfer
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Ansis on June 02, 2020, 10:28:58 AM
OK. Fresh idea!
Horn which amplify sound about 1000X!
Than in the stream of this mega signal we put EM device based on Neodymium Magnets and coils, which is constructed in Free Fluctuation coil which is tuned in to the Resonance!
Why not?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on June 02, 2020, 10:43:10 AM
OK. Fresh idea!
Horn which amplify sound about 1000X!
Than in the stream of this mega signal we put EM device based on Neodymium Magnets and coils, which is constructed in Free Fluctuation coil which is tuned in to the Resonance!
Why not?
Because you don't have a better idea.

How do you annoy some one who is anti alternative energy? answer keep poking them any way you can to build up there blood pressure.
So what’s that really got to do with alternative energy ?

well think about it stutter the energy feed (interrupt it). Thanks Geo and Egor ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Raycathode on June 03, 2020, 01:43:53 AM
There is only real things or speculations.
Nothing more/less.
Ideas comes from Nature/God.
That`s it.

It`s my idea.
That`s it.

Others can do what they want.
Amen.
Hi Ansis, go for your idea, letus know how you get on.

chears Raymondo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on June 10, 2020, 02:44:26 AM
12v 40w x2 Jensen Audio amp fed through the 12v to 120v transformer now works lighting up a 25w bulb--Im still shooting for higher.I also used a 300w purple "Urban" amp,I blew an output but repaired it.The OPA541 module got blown by accidentally shoving 72v into it by hooking up the batteries wrong--have another on the way from China.I figured since the resonant frequency falls close to the audio arena,why not try an audio amp.Both the "Urban" and "Jensen" use nearly the same config-unplug one,plug in the other--Jenson is more efficient.On the O-scope there is 2 frequencies,the lowest about 1/20 the highest--but the frequencies spread up to 1.5MHz--These are not coming out of the audio amps.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 10, 2020, 01:21:52 PM
Sorry for interrupting with magnet motors :
short note on the run:

INVESTIGATION ON THE FREE ENERGY MAGNET MOTORS NEO TENG YI
A project report submitted in partial fulfillment of there
requirements for the award of the degree of Bachelor (Hons
of Mechatronics Engineering Faculty of Engineering and Science University Tunku
Abdul Rahman ]May 2011
http://eprints.utar.edu.my/150/1/MH%2D2011%2D0705513%2D1.pdf (http://eprints.utar.edu.my/150/1/MH%2D2011%2D0705513%2D1.pdf)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 23, 2020, 06:57:11 PM



Memo :
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ (https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ)

1. Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html (https://vdocuments.mx/sommerfeld-and-zenneck-wave-propagation-for-a-finitely-conducting-one-dimensional.html)

2.[IEEE Propagation Conference (LAPC) - Loughborough, United Kingdom (2010.11.8-2010.11.9)] 2010 Loughborough
Antennas & Propagation Conference - Isolation of the Zenneck surface wave
https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html (https://vdocuments.mx/ieee-propagation-conference-lapc-loughborough-united-kingdom-2010118-2010119-58526242b641c.html)

3.Download - Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments (https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html)

4.Observation of Zenneck-type waves in microwave propagation experiments
https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html (https://vdocuments.mx/observation-of-zenneck-type-waves-in-microwave-propagation-experiments.html)

5.Possibility of superluminal behaviors for               X               -like and Zenneck waves
https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html (https://vdocuments.mx/possibility-of-superluminal-behaviors-for-x-like-and-zenneck-waves.html)

6.Electromagnetic Surface Wave Attenuation Caused by Acoustic Wave Radiation
https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html (https://vdocuments.mx/electromagnetic-surface-wave-attenuation-caused-by-acoustic-wave-radiation.html)

7.Surface-wave luneberg lens antennas
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html (https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-luneberg-lens-antennas.html)

8.Excitation of sea surface wave by short-wave radiator
https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html (https://vdocuments.mx/excitation-of-sea-surface-wave-by-short-wave-radiator.html)

9.Surface Wave Propagation Preliminary work developing a method for surface wave detection Amy Zheng Andrew Johnanneson.
https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html (https://vdocuments.mx/surface-wave-propagation-preliminary-work-developing-a-method-for-surface-wave.html)

10.Lens design for surface wave applications
https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html (https://vdocuments.mx/lens-design-for-surface-wave-applications.html)

11. https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8 (https://vdocuments.mx/search?q=Zenneck+surface+wave&per_page=8)

12.On the relation between Surface Plasmons and Sommerfeld's Surface Electromagnetic Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-the-relation-between-Surface-Plasmons-and-Waves-Dyab-Abdallah/593dd702a9b6051652a7fbf4dc4f2df38e7697a7)

13.Brief overview about Surface Wave theory and applications
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso- (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Brief-overview-about-Surface-Wave-theory-and-Balosso-)
Sokoloff/e7f1b1a020f0f0d2bf7c45d68075690246678a79?tab=abstract&citingPapersSort=is-influential&citingPapersLimit=
10&citingPapersOffset=0&citedPapersSort=is-influential&citedPapersLimit=10&citedPapersOffset=10

14.Zenneck surface oscillations in the sphere dielectric resonator immersed in high lossy liquid
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Zenneck-surface-oscillations-in-the-sphere-immersed-Ganapolskii-Eremenko/d41299173437028b336c26a8772ade0f109d62d1)

15. https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Surface-Waves-Barlow/686d2a3ce72918969e9a74edb49364521b2357cc/figure/4)

16. https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/d3c2/de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494.pdf)

17.The Excitation of Plane Surface Waves
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-Excitation-of-Plane-Surface-Waves-Cullen/d3c2de8b26cfcb179dc63ec3e3c7ed75ffefe494)

18.The application of electromagnetic surface waves to wireless energy transfer
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-application-of-electromagnetic-surface-waves-to-Peterson/f9d3824240e41b4748a403adbd0c140f2f580a06)

19.THE PROPAGATION AND EXCITATION OF SURFACE WAVES IN AN ABSORBING LAYER
http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf (http://www.jpier.org/PIER/pier19/02.970718p.Ling.SU.pdf)

20.Surface wave
https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave (https://wiki2.org/en/Surface_wave)

21.Why Do Surface Waves Exist?
http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf (http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf)

22.Excitation of the Zenneck surface wave by a vertical aperture
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969 (https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 23, 2020, 07:02:04 PM
I miss very much
Jerry..the owner of Keelynet.com
Jerry Passed away suddenly 2017/06/19, he will be missed.
Not everyone knows  about it, and people  are asking  me why  Keelynet is down.
Wesley 
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 23, 2020, 07:08:46 PM
https://vdocuments.mx/chapter-2-waveguide-and-components-propagation-mode-of-electromagnetic-wave.html (https://vdocuments.mx/chapter-2-waveguide-and-components-propagation-mode-of-electromagnetic-wave.html)

 way to understand  phenomena in Waveguide
where  main  for us is TM transverse Magnetic mode
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 24, 2020, 04:51:14 AM
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-16114-x
use of NMR to  investigate batteries and its material  as a transition from gasoline to electric power
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on June 24, 2020, 11:29:22 AM
Wesley,...few years back was speaking with Jerry's friend and partner/associate..He was quite upset about loosing Jerry and about where all this would go.[Keely net, Some people were trying to help him ??

Will see if I can find his number and give a call [very nice fellow]hope all is well By you.[and thx for all you do for open source community]

respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on June 25, 2020, 11:15:37 AM
Hullo!


I've been doing some disrelated research to energy... so this may seem to be coming from entirely out of left field.

Let me start with some links, and then go on to explain what they are...

https://www.geogebra.org/3d/spxzup4s (https://www.geogebra.org/3d/spxzup4s) (arccos)


https://www.geogebra.org/u/d3x0r (https://www.geogebra.org/u/d3x0r)  (various graphs I've done with this neat widget, mostly disrelated to the eventual discussion)


https://www.geogebra.org/m/a5dauj6s (https://www.geogebra.org/m/a5dauj6s) (this was early attempt, it is very slow; it's essentially the same as the first, but 2 dimensional instead of a slider)


---
I did figure out, however, extended arcsin and arccos that are valid; but arccos(cos(a)+cos(b)) is a number that only that operation can produce.  (or approximate with a bunch of other things).  Makes picking a random secure key kinda nice - suppose that's where elliptic curve stuff is based.


https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/math/ (https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/math/)  This  is arccos(x) - (x*2/pi) ... +/- 1 around the origin... The difference in the change for adding a little bit at the ends are a very steep slope.  (sine, is similar, but harder to graph, because it loops back on itself and doesn't really go anywhere).   

The slope of the arcsin(x) curve is similar if reverse biased with a counter instead... the existing arc-sin can sort of work as-is, but store the number of wraps in a counter floor(angle/2pi). in parallel with the sin result, and then the original angle can be recovered also; otherwise sin() can only return the principle angle.  cos(), however, can return the number of wraps ...



This is hard to explain exactly what this graph is showing... but it does remind me of the electron orbital shapes.  This also is why from the middle (0) to negative.. until a maximum of absolute 0, the next step is the hottest thing.   (If the thing itself is very hot then it will give energy to the system and prevent the system as a whole from going below 0.  There's a good chance the same behavior happens at the top end, so you have to put in more and more energy exponenetially (leaving the origin) until a maximum, which inverts very which quickly to reverse the state to the other directions.


The feedbacks only occur where arccos( cos(x) + n ) > 1 .


while resolving what the graph of arccos looks like, it actually simply extends, because the 'forward' is +/-1 and balances out in a 'real' way.  It is basically the shape of a closed surface; although vertically up and down it is also the same as the sine graph.   The sine graph in its 'natural' state is the shape of open space...


I spent some time developing some meshing algorithms a while ago...


https://d3x0r.github.io/IsoSurface-MultiTexture/ (https://d3x0r.github.io/IsoSurface-MultiTexture/)  In this demo, there is a 'sine waves' Input data, which is a 3d plot of sin(x)+sin(y)+sin(z), and the surface at 0....   The surface itself is entirely 1 surface, but has inifinite holes in it(?)  ... the arc-sin function at >1 wraps backwards on the x-axis ...  the space immediately 'in front' of sine is real and imaginary (open)... so the arcsin function is the graph of the open space side... Anyway; it's all a matter of perspective, if you just are the thing rotating, it's all just silly to think about.


Okay so then, A while ago I was playing with `mobially` wound coils (ABHA), and my royer/scope had huge feedback especially under load... The graph of the normalized arccos( cos(x)*2 )  looks a lot like that... such that what was coming back was greater than 1x cos wave (?).  Probably a coincidence.   However, this other graph, but to go back to the numbers, the projection of power outside the curve reflects differently immediately in the view of deltaX... at deltaX+1 it's very hard to get some places...  The function of arccos( >1) is also negative, but odes not reach the full range of the negativity... this would be a very good solution for rubber banding/exponentiated limiting...

---
Hopf Fibrations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKotMPGFJYk  Fasciating :)  These are those neat interlink toroidal links, which are a subset of quaternions (all that wonderful math I've been doing).    They resemble the shape of magentic fields... (although I suspect moving iron filings is a projection of the field, and not really the field itself.... )   

So; I built this fancy new mesher that can generate arbitrary shapes, and dynamically reshape them (dig out some of the closed space); but then I need to know where it 'is' of the physics of the thing, so I started on this physics engine, but Matricii (Matrixes) are limited in their ability to carry rotations except for very small ticks; and quaternions are really no better... there is, however, a layer under the quaternions called 'log quatnerion' or apply the natural log function to a quaternion, which just makes it a 0  ( exp(0) = 1 ).  and a bunch of imaginary rotations for each axis in the total angles each... these then get 'truncated' to 2pi, or their principle values, and can be applied as quaternions or matricii, and get some rotations... but there's been NO math on these.

It's like all this time there's this huge issue that noone's figured out a mapping from the rotation space ( arcsin( sin(a)+sin(b) ) and arccos(cos(a)+cos(b)) ) being the axises...   The arcsin and arccos functions are 'continuous'  in rotation space.... but somehow when sine rotates it affects the cos part. 

(wow I'm really sorry, I'm realizing this is probably all about 99% useless, which makes it effectively a nil thing)

J
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 06, 2020, 07:14:55 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLCH33UWwU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLCH33UWwU)
https://www.amazon.com/Yinlong-66160H-Battery-Energy-Storage/dp/B07P1MZY5T (https://www.amazon.com/Yinlong-66160H-Battery-Energy-Storage/dp/B07P1MZY5T)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on July 06, 2020, 08:39:06 PM
Hello Wesley,


interested in cheap electricity storage I saw as alternative,1/2 price : https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/GOOSUN-hot-sale-lto-battery-55ah_62140142727.html (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/GOOSUN-hot-sale-lto-battery-55ah_62140142727.html)




Keep it well


OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2020, 12:51:27 AM
tnx LankaIV
here  for curiosity is :
What's Inside a Tesla Model S Battery Pack -- World's FIRST Tesla Swapped Nissan 350Z - Part 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENu8uuPIss8
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENu8uuPIss8)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouOqWZM28Qw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouOqWZM28Qw)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM8YKgSgfxs

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 10, 2020, 07:00:26 AM
https://youtu.be/Z7rd04KzLcg?t=2201  See also this Eric Weinstein guy... Geometric Unity: A First Look which is about... well a lot of geometry babel :)  But essiantially.. trying to get to work within the base system (curvature) instead of the product of evaluation of curvature (matrixes/quaternions) which are what relativity is actually sort of based on - it's a truncate -1 to +1 system because of 'symmetry'



I'm starting this other thread... I won't bother you with this any more; but I do sort of want to share a lot of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjBuP0oPbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjBuP0oPbc)  THis is just using some plastic yard trimmer line to make a neat fidget toy.


https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/3d/index.html (https://d3x0r.github.io/STFRPhysics/3d/index.html)  I did make this demo to view rotations as natural angles instead of matrixes or truncated quaternions. (I know, mathy graphical things, but really, primordial to relativity (curvature), and quantum mechanical spin states.


If you move the Z slider .... no if you Click on the Z slider and then use the arrow keys to move it a couple ticks left or right.... and then click on the blue-ish ball and rotate to the right... You'll see some interesting shapes start to form... the primary curvature reminds me of a magnetic iso-potential flux line through a solenoid coil... where with very small rotations, the solenoid is tall and thin, and as you increase the rotations it becomes more circular - to the point of almost being circular... BUT that rotation line (which there's a curvature.md document in the git repository that describes this in more detail... and there's a link at the bottom of the demo to the repository)

https://overunity.com/18542/review-of-mobially-wound-coils12-abha (https://overunity.com/18542/review-of-mobially-wound-coils12-abha)


J


- There's no such thing in the real universe as a point, or a thing with infinite curvature.  there are things that go in a line with 0 curvature.
- 'curvature' and 'angle' mathematically are the same values and use the same functions; they're sort of like different units (degrees or radians, but more like cubic-centimeter and milli-liter) Angle sort of implies you had an origin you're rotating around, where curvature applies to the point whereever it is (if anywhere).



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 10, 2020, 01:50:35 PM

https://youtu.be/Z7rd04KzLcg?t=2201 (https://youtu.be/Z7rd04KzLcg?t=2201)
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 11, 2020, 11:03:33 PM
This is a double post. https://overunity.com/13925/toroidal-coils/msg547891/#msg547891 (https://overunity.com/13925/toroidal-coils/msg547891/#msg547891)

For the electrical engineers... If I count the turns, and count the radius, and get an LC, and measure that LC for a coil to be the same, the coil IS the same as any other coil of similar LC?


Then how would anyone ever know the difference.  This is NOT tough; and there is no trickery in the jump cuts.  No video I make and post or promote has ads or is expecting some personal gain from you watching it.

Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kUO3Luzfw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9kUO3Luzfw)  (winding plastic coils with wire instead)

which becomes the test coil in these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuIiA7TWzmY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuIiA7TWzmY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUZyoQwoG9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUZyoQwoG9c)


J
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 12, 2020, 01:39:02 AM
So... in the kapanadze aquarium video... there's this toroid slinkly like coil (apparently; you don't really know the inner geometry), with a spark gap that's a high voltage impulse generator.


The coils respond - transfer power, on the edges of a square wave....

and I'm just going to quote myself from somewhere else

'
My friend the skeptic kept saying - look it's just like every other coil, don't you think over the past X hundred years... yadda yadda .... And it's the same resistance everywhere, even from people that are open to new ideas...

I understand we're all a lot jaded - disatisfied by any, really, even interesting result...
I kept trying to give away my lab ... free to a good home....  But the above requires no special ferrite, a pulse generator probably would work best - a very sharp impulse since that's what the ringback is anyway

I also have come to understand that although what I'm trying to show is plain as day and simple for me - like if anyone half cared to analyze these videos like kapanadze videos they'd actually not have that had of a time.  ... but at the same time I'm showing you  glass of water, and I'm saying it's fresh water, and not salt water, but you can't touch or do anything with it yourself, so all you can do is say well, test it like this... but I don't need to it's quite fresh... that's an entirely different glass of water over there.... and ... maybe ... this can show you it's really not so hard to get a couple glasses of water yourself?
'

J
I do Hope all are well...

Me; I don't really have a lot of time to wait around for confirmations from anyone; I dodn't know who else to implore to take a few arm-spans of wire and tinker....
It has a few inches of usable wireless tranfer range ; probably more if you had a proper resonance....

I may not have stressed enough - the reaction to get power on the pick coil is in no way resonance; it's a 'high' frequency because the LEDS were really only lighting on the leading edge... and I needed a lot of leading edges to make it bright...

And maybe I should be skeptical of myself, and say, If there is any trickery I did, I'm not are of it, and can't imagine what sort of trick I might have pulled when I wasn't looking.


-- Correction --
I did have one of the coils shorted on the one case, I can't prove any difference this way.
Wish someone else would have spoted - hey... those two blue wires... they shouldn't be together? Oh, right.


I'll have to keep diggging. Sorry
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 13, 2020, 09:24:29 PM
I do have questions about what 'exactly' is 'a caduceus coil'


These are just shared from my account... I did post this video a while ago.


If the Green coil first shown is 'caduceus[/size]' ...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFKXQqDBqmZxBmP87 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMcJKz_ylqNMe-zWAt65xjWj-w5JHKS-fvZK-Rh9agh9rga-R0mFlOYTzqzAs8l0Q?key=VEoyN0t4S2pMWWhac2pFaVAxTFZWRmtjZy1tRzBB) (video, only the first seconds matter) the rest are images.


Then isn't also this red wound coil?  That's just a single wire.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6)




do crosses at the poles count?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/E3uKufigic37z3gn7 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMucCKE-3VfstgD0NJPHlsbMSQeM6VCSLVyif8rJR68Gdaz3sN0l80j9a_tGcCv-Q?key=dXNrYVBMX0haUW03cW5VYmtYdGU1RElaU0pxNjl3)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5)


https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A (https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A)


https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8)  (bigger really isn't better...)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5) (collapsed)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 14, 2020, 12:04:48 AM
I do have questions about what 'exactly' is 'a caduceus coil'


These are just shared from my account... I did post this video a while ago.


If the Green coil first shown is 'caduceus[/size]' ...


https://photos.app.goo.gl/RFKXQqDBqmZxBmP87 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMcJKz_ylqNMe-zWAt65xjWj-w5JHKS-fvZK-Rh9agh9rga-R0mFlOYTzqzAs8l0Q?key=VEoyN0t4S2pMWWhac2pFaVAxTFZWRmtjZy1tRzBB) (video, only the first seconds matter) the rest are images.


Then isn't also this red wound coil?  That's just a single wire.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/wEJAZVugrWaTHPSc6)




do crosses at the poles count?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/E3uKufigic37z3gn7 (https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipMucCKE-3VfstgD0NJPHlsbMSQeM6VCSLVyif8rJR68Gdaz3sN0l80j9a_tGcCv-Q?key=dXNrYVBMX0haUW03cW5VYmtYdGU1RElaU0pxNjl3)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/4d7nhDK4Upk5PFGy5)


https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A (https://photos.app.goo.gl/JsfmxxtjoeENFs78A)


https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/G6rUgUvkNBuaNUyL8)  (bigger really isn't better...)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/HgvzXfHTJYn9yDkr5) (collapsed)


Follow the story on Wilbert B. SMITH.

Story said that geometry of caduceus coil was given to him from contacts with aliens as free energy coil.

http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/caduceus3.htm

http://www.rexresearch.com/smith/smith2.htm

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 14, 2020, 08:19:05 AM

I did go back and dig up aquarium photos and there is more visible than I remembered....  ya and this would be entirely different than that ....


So... if I had a coil of wire, and drilled some holes in it an wound one of the mobial coils... 1( I could have it entirely cross and have the opposing side vertical with the outside...


could also twist the ends, but to make the outside loops vertical, the inside would have to be wrapped around and look more solenoial than across...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rKrHsVsGyuWB9do39



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 14, 2020, 07:33:56 PM
I did go back and dig up aquarium photos and there is more visible than I remembered....  ya and this would be entirely different than that ....


So... if I had a coil of wire, and drilled some holes in it an wound one of the mobial coils... 1( I could have it entirely cross and have the opposing side vertical with the outside...


could also twist the ends, but to make the outside loops vertical, the inside would have to be wrapped around and look more solenoial than across...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rKrHsVsGyuWB9do39

Aquarium?


Kapanadze used sometimes Caduceus and sometimes bifilar.

He said that Caduceus is better , but bifilar is also good.

Both are capacitor coils.

Is there any connection to that?


On picture it seems Caduceus?

That coil was used when Wesley meet Kapanadze,

and Kapanadze made small device for him to observe.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 14, 2020, 07:38:06 PM
And Caduceus symbol looks more bifilar to me, than Caduceus.

In Sumerian tablets it represents ability to fly.

Or maybe the source of power for the flying engine?

This symbol is used also as medical symbol over the centuries.

It did not change much in time.


Maybe someone before us knew the secret?


But, if the head and tail means polarities,

why heads are on the same side,

and tails on the other?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: WhatIsIt on July 14, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
So, at the end Caduceus could be free energy coil?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: d3x0r on July 15, 2020, 04:55:19 AM
https://youtu.be/7GlaYj7J5s8?t=541 (https://youtu.be/7GlaYj7J5s8?t=541)  (starts at 9:01)
Lithuania OU experiment #3 of series of videos.English.




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 24, 2020, 12:39:22 AM
this is really convoluted story
Patience is required to understand all of the variables


Svobodian Andrey is Dead.

_________________________

source:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppg8gG5tD5g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppg8gG5tD5g)
according to : 
This video is made by  MOHAPX100 the critic of  Svobodian Andrey
Video explains in Russian that Svobodian Andrey died.
He also stays that death was not  natural and likely caused by some sort of "Mafia"
Quote: <people with whom Svobodian Andrey should not  make jokes> 

some other material to remind you who is Svobodian Andrey :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yoxX5ujhig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yoxX5ujhig)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8uUrjnW5w0)
_______________________________________________
cause:
from fire  and fume caused by faulty air conditioner in his lab/room* .
claim: he  didn't wake up..on time..


Main characters  involved:
1-
MOHAPX100  youtube blogger  Russian  heavily attacking  Andrey Tirtha and Svobodian Andrey( author of revelation)
2- Andrey Tirtha 
Андрей Тиртха youtube blogger
3- Svobodian Andrey self made inventor of magnetic motor,  youtube blogger from South Korea originally from Moldova-( not conformed)
4- Sergey Kachan  youtube blogger  excellent professional  attacked by Tirtha.
5 -Wesley :  me who made few videos about  Svobodian Andrey


Explanation in points:
1. MOHAPX100 made number of ~20 videos criticizing Svobodian Andrey.as thieve, fraudulent lair abusing other people's money.
   Svobodian Andrey sued him for 20 000 dollars due to this criticism and around 10 month ago, he lost in Russian court.( corrupted Russian court)
2. MOHAPX100 is Russian  who says that:
    he doesn't care about viewers opinions expressed, nor his own channel, nor money made  from YouTube.
    he makes only  ~$5.67 per month from monetizing  of ~100+ of his videos but still keeps monetizing ..

     Question is why?
    Who compensates him for his work? Russian propaganda?


3. MOHAPX100 "celebrating" now death of Svobodian Andrey
 He says that  10 month ago  group of people knocked  to his door  demanding him to stop  criticism of Svobodian Andrey "Unexpected visitors" 
 said
 Quote:that  Svobodian Andrey promised them to   pay their invested in him  money  back,
             if  they stop negative videos of MOHAPX100

quick introduction to Svobodian Andrey :
Inventor of magnetic motor  emigrated to South Korea  where he found and investor.
Heavily criticized by Russian propaganda


4. Андрей Тиртха (Andrey Tirtha)
    who  in ~Mar 4, 2019 visited  Svobodian Andrey in South Korea  and made  supporting videos.
a. https://youtu.be/3kA3CW5FD5Y?t=97 (https://youtu.be/3kA3CW5FD5Y?t=97)
   Andrey  Tirtha the supporter  of  Svobodian Andrey  is threatening
   Sergey Kachan  https://www.youtube.com/user/Dssvvx/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/Dssvvx/videos)
    with Russian Court  for his criticism of Svobodian Andrey
    Note : Interesting is that Andrey Tirtha is Ukrainian suspected  as working with  Russian propaganda.
                Very questionable in value of published material. I have negative opinion about his  channel.         


b. Andrey Tirtha videos supporting  Svobodian Andrey:
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIJ9eDirCuQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIJ9eDirCuQ) video criticizes Сергей Качан Sergey Kachan
    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfVIJiHwL9Q
    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kA3CW5FD5Y
    -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKEIl3zIJLg

5. MOHAPX100 says: that  Svobodian Andrey  collected ~2 million dollars from investors and he was approached by
    some sort of Mafia ( presumably Russian mafia- my own  addition)
    and that caused his death.


 


Legal note:
All of the wording used and opinion expressed  is my personal opinion only.
My understanding of Russian language may cause non-accurate translation.
My rights as an American to my freedom of speech  is written in American constitution.
All facts may be corrected if found misleading or incorrect.
No apology is intended to be served  to any offended party as my intention is not to offend anyone.
 :)

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 13, 2020, 06:17:24 PM
questions formulated by СЕРГЕЙ:

СЕРГЕЙ STALKER,
8:14 AM
примерный список вопросов только по тесле:

1.число витков индуктора
   (amount of winds of  primary coil  of Tesla Coil assembly - called  bellow  T.C*.)
2.расстояние от индуктора до HV теслы
   (  gap between Primary and secondary of T.C*)
3.на сколько широко располагается индуктор по отношению к ширине намотки теслы
   ( diameter and drawing  of assembly T.C*)
4.как выбирается длина провода теслы.
  (How to calculate  length  of wire   used  for Tesla T.C*assembly)
5.как изменяется частота теслы с заземлением и без 
   ( How frequency of T.C* changes when with  ground [ connection] and without)
6.длина заземления теслы
   ( length of wire  of ground cable of T.C  )7.сечение провода теслы   ( diameter  of ground wire of T.C  )
8.шаг провода теслы
    (pich  of wind to wind [ distance]  of T.C*)
9.диаметр намотки и соотношение к высоте намотки и как влияет на габариты уединённой ёмкости
    ( diameter of winding and  its relation to  height of  winding and  how it  affects  at  mutual capacitive reactance)
10. исходя из чего выбирается уединённая ёкость
  ( what  mutual capacitive reactance depends of in T.C*)
11. как влияет форма уединённой ёмкости на её ёмкость
    (how  form of mutual capacitive reactance affects on physical capacitance  of assembly  in T.C*)
12. что определяет частоту теслы
    (what  frequency of T.C*- Tesla Coil assembly depends  from.)
13. что определяет LC резонанс теслы и как смещать эти частоты
    ( what  LC resonance in  T.C* depends  from and how to mix these frequencies)
14. меняется ли LC резонанс от наличия заземления
    ( is  LC resonance in its form and/or frequency  dependent  from  form and quality  of  grounding)
15. как определить в каком волновом распределение находится тесла от подаваемой частоты
    ( how to  find/calculate  frequency difference and frequencies distribution range ,
       and how much  they are differing from main frequency  feeding  primary of T.C*)

     ( that question apply to both independent cases:
       этот вопрос относится к обоим независимым случаям       :
      a. when   T.C* is fed  by spark gap generator.          (когда T.C * питается от генератора искрового разрядника.)       
      b. when   T.C* is fed  by single frequency generator) (  когда T.C * питается от одночастотного генератора)
16.как влияют формы и режимы питания индуктора на тип разряда теслы
    ( how is form and type of  <powering> feeding  of  T.C *  impacting  discharge of HV Tesla coil (if  desired.)
17. при каких условиях появляется статический потенциал вокруг теслы и как изменить его знак
      what conditions must be met  to  create static charge around    T.C * and how to  change  its polarity (+/-)
18. как влияет сопротивление заземления на режим работы теслы
      ( How  impedance/resistivity of  ground/ing  is affecting  stability of Tesla coil - T.C *  work/tuning )
19. как диаметр каркаса при неизменной длине проводника теслы влияет на габариты уединённой ёмкости
      ( how  <Fi> size of  coil former (HV coil)  is  affecting  mutual capacitance/capacitive reactance 
         if we just change <Fi> of  coil former but we don't change  physical length of wire  used  for that HV coil)

20. как высота уединённой ёмкости над теслой влияет на её LC резонанс
      (How height of  Top capacitor [ distance from the ground/elevation change ] affects  LC resonance frequency of  T.C *)
21  как выбрать длину индуктора и соотнести с длиной проводника теслы
       ( How to  chose length of  HV coil former  based on desired  length  of wire used to wind HV  Tesla coil of  T.C* assembly.)
22. направление намотки проводника теслы и её индуктора
      ( CW or CCW direction of  winding  both  coils - the HV  and  primary  coil of   T.C* assembly.)
23. может ли работать тесла без индуктора
      ( can Tesla coil work  without  primary  coil?)
24  как выбрать напряжение питания теслы 
      ( how to chose/ calculate  the voltage used to power   T.C* assembly.)
25. какая разница между раскачкой теслы с помощью магнитного поля или электрического поля
      ( what is the difference  between   starting     T.C*  by use of  magnetic  field  or electric field/ potential )
26. как формируется стоячая волна в тесле
      ( how standing wave is formed in     T.C*)
27. по какой причине разряд теслы без тока
       ( what is the reason of  HV Tesla coil sparking  to the ground?)

_____________________________________________________________
и этот список можно продолжать и это только тесла.
Вот это всё знать как "Отче наш" а после уже к системе переходить.
And that  is  the list of the most important fundamental questions.
( the guide describing  fundamental ruling of to  how to make  Tesla coil acting as FE converting  device  from known and properly  recognized
energy source  at its  natural origin)
That Tesla Coil assembly  T.C* will act as your device  you are looking for to get your free Energy for Free.


На большинство ответов я смогу дать ответ, не спрашивая разрешения у доктора Ханса

Важна только форма этого объяснения.
Будет ли это :
1. видеоклип на YouTube?
2. YouTube-лайф презентация в реальном времени с чатом - чтобы задать вопросы и сформулировать мысли?
3. ..... Skype конференция ( скриншоты и видеоролики, а затем обсуждение.)
Answer to most of the questions I will be able to formulate
 in form that will be chosen for it:
1. Youtube
2 Youtube with chat as conference
3. Skype

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Acca on September 14, 2020, 11:10:29 PM
Thanks  for doing a great explanation on Andrei...
 
Acca  aka Al...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 15, 2020, 01:16:26 AM

https://www.tntech.edu/engineering/research/cesr/wireless-power/power-through-earth.php

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 15, 2020, 03:12:47 AM
competition to  Dr Corum in rights to technology
https://patents.google.com/patent/US2542462 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US2542462)
.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 17, 2020, 02:53:01 AM

Publication  number:
 hujlo-von #2
Patent with  earlier  filing date: Zenneck wave A to B energy transfer  applied by me and Dr Hans.
Explanation of page 1.
 
The technology   described in patent of
Charles I. Beard  will be compared to
 generalized PhD. J. Corum patents.
Charles I. Beard:
Quote
Pulses are applied to the  earth surface directly.

J.Corum:
Quote
energy is applied  by means energy entering  interface at Brewster Angle

Conclusion:
 the  J.Corum method is not only one that  creates Zenneck wave(known also as  surface wave )(
known also as boundary wave) in the interface.
_____________________________________

Charles I. Beard:
Quote
Wave  traveling along the boundary or interface between two media.
J.Corum:
Quote
Inserted Zenneck wave exist in the  boundary between  earth( the lossy conductor) and air( the dielectric)
Conclusion:  both  statements are exactly the same from physics stand point.
____________________________________
Charles I. Beard:
Quote
boundary wave is cancelled
J.Corum
Quote
boundary wave is not canceled , not reflected  and not refracted.
Conclusion:  in order to cancel  something first you must detect it.
 :) in any of the cases this is the prove of Zenneck Wave in the interface.


.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 17, 2020, 12:23:22 PM
How can these serpentine printed inductors work like inductors? in the same place, in adjacent conductors, currents flow in opposite directions. It looks more like a bifilar.
https://proxy.imgsmail.ru/?email=krol86ik%40mail.ru&e=1600596030&flags=0&h=eQOt0t0F43C-RPSkTpxtzQ&url173=Zm9ydW1zLnJhZGlvZGV0YWxpLXNmZXJhLmNvbS91cGxvYWRzL21vbnRobHlfMjAyMF8wOS8xLnRodW1iLmpwZy43NDc3YWQ3NzQ0MGNjMmMxZjRlZDA5MzZkZmE5NjkwOC5qcGc~&is_https=1 (https://proxy.imgsmail.ru/?email=krol86ik%40mail.ru&e=1600596030&flags=0&h=eQOt0t0F43C-RPSkTpxtzQ&url173=Zm9ydW1zLnJhZGlvZGV0YWxpLXNmZXJhLmNvbS91cGxvYWRzL21vbnRobHlfMjAyMF8wOS8xLnRodW1iLmpwZy43NDc3YWQ3NzQ0MGNjMmMxZjRlZDA5MzZkZmE5NjkwOC5qcGc~&is_https=1)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 17, 2020, 03:32:06 PM
How can these serpentine printed inductors work like inductors? in the same place, in adjacent conductors, currents flow in opposite directions. It looks more like a bifilar.

Capacitance between winds and inductance of wire  creates impedance  of printed circuit path acting as resonance filter/ choke/impedance matching/attenuator  e.t.c
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on September 24, 2020, 07:26:43 PM
it might be interesting ...
http://www.unconv-science.org/pdf/25/stepanov.pdf (http://www.unconv-science.org/pdf/25/stepanov.pdf)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 24, 2020, 08:08:49 PM
PART#1
original article



it might be interesting ...
http://www.unconv-science.org/pdf/25/stepanov.pdf (http://www.unconv-science.org/pdf/25/stepanov.pdf)
yes it is thank you.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 24, 2020, 08:24:12 PM

PART#2
Translation of article from above:


On the physical effects arising from the
 outflow of high-pressure water

Quote
vapor from a spiral channel formed
by a steel pipe wound on a conical mandrel
_______________________


I.N. Stepanov ∗
Abstract — The reason that prompted the publication of this article was the work of
I.A. Melnik
about the appearance of rotating masses in the vicinity
unidentified field called field rotation, which affects the half-life
radioactive isotopes

... This work is
the closest analogue of the experiment carried out in 1981, according to the idea of ​​the famous scientist A.F. Okhatrina.
The scheme of the experiment is presented and the goal of the task is stated.
Given a description of the parts of the equipment used and devices.

The results of the measurements are given, presented in graphical form, and
also information about the pathogenic effects on experimenters who were near the working
installation.
I
n the early 80s. A.F. Okhatrin, on the basis of his theoretical studies, suggested that when high-pressure
water vapor is passed through a metal tube wound on a conical frame,
when the vapor flows into the atmosphere, i.e. in the vicinity of the apex of
the conical spiral, ionizing radiation is possible.
The idea was so interesting that it was decided to test this assumption experimentally

A 25-litre
steam generator  with a built-in 4 kW was used as a .receiver
The thickness of the receiver's walls allowed to get overheated steam with pressure up to 16 atm.

The spiral channel thin-walled steel tube Ø16х1 in length of 20 m was wound on a circle from 16 mm of plywood
in diameter of 70 mm, laying on a horizontal plane, “turn by turn”
When the winding was completed, a flat spiral was obtained, consisting of 20 turns, the largest of which had a diameter of 800 mm,
the diameter of the small turn was 100 mm.
After being removed from the mandrel, the flat spiral was additionally stretched along the axis by about 1 meter so that, as a result,
the generatrix of the resulting funnel acquired a shape close to an exponential, (Spiral cone)- funnel.

In order to eliminate possible distortions of the obtained spatial shape of the channel,
during the experiments, a light supporting structure was made for the spiral, which
corresponded to the final shape of the envelope.
This frame made it possible to position the funnel in such a way that its symmetry axis
lay in the horizontal plane, the rotation is right
The block diagram of the experimental setup is shown
in Fig. 1.


The outlet pipe of the
steam generator through the valve was connected with a hose to the beginning of the
spiral (turn of the largest diameter).
Steam flowed along the spiral channel accelerated, so that the maximum flow velocity was observed
at the end of the tube with free flow of steam into the atmosphere near the spiral axis
.A.F. Okhatrin assumed that in the process of accelerating the flow of steam in a spiral and
 its outflow into the atmosphere, an electric current and ionizing radiation should appear in
the spiral near the apex of the cone

Therefore, in the region of the end section of the tube on the axis of the spiral, an ionizing radiation
counter STS-6 was placed, connected through a preamplifier to a
frequency meter Ch-3-33,
and a DC voltmeter was connected to the ends of the tube

The experiment was carried out as follows.
When voltage was applied to the heater, the STS-6 counter was started.
He showed a natural background of radiation at 13 micro-roentgen / hour,
and a voltmeter - zero potential difference at the ends of the tube

After the steam generator heated the water and the superheated steam pressure reached 16 atm,
the valve was opened and steam entered the spiral channel.
From that moment on, the STS-6 meter began to record a gradually increasing number of pulses,
and the voltmeter - the emergence of a potential difference with positive polarity at the beginning of the tube.
________________

Approximately 105 seconds after the beginning of the steam outflow from the tube, the number of
pulses recorded by the counter reached a maximum of 11 milliroentgens / hour, which exceeded the
natural radioactive background by almost three orders of magnitude, and after that it began to gradually decrease.

The readings of the voltmeter, whose numerical values reached a maximum of 2 volts, behaved in a similar way.

The results of measurements of the number of pulses recorded by the STS6 counter during the spiral flow of steam are shown in Fig. 2.

_____________________


By the end of the experiment, which lasted 195 seconds, the pressure in the steam
generator became equal to atmospheric pressure and the outflow of steam stopped.
By this time, the STS-6 counter readings returned to a level of 13 microroentgens / hour,
 and the voltage at the ends of the coil became zero


problem #3.
In addition, it should be added that the  installation during  experiment 
- had a clearly pathogenic effect on the experimenters when in close proximity to the device.
-pulsed headaches,
-dry mouth,
-mild nausea,and loss of energy were felt.

After the steam was completely out from the device
in about one hour later
all the negative effect on the experimenters bodies ceased.

end of translation
 the conclusions will be  in the next  comments
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 02:04:17 PM
While looking  in the internet for the 
Author:  Alexander Shishkin
mentioned by   Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEy09JW5XAd95JmknU1JOeQ) 
                    in the video   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs)
                    Video title: A New Type of Penetrating Radiation (Alexander Shishkin)
                    1,719 views                   •Feb 8, 2019

who in •Oct 5, 2018 made video  having only 204 views
                      Title of video:   Alexander Shishkin - Part of 25th Sochi CNT&BL Presentation
                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68BOYCbtcwc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68BOYCbtcwc)



__________________________
I went across  very interesting  list of Andrea Rossi
https://e-catworld.com/display-posts/ (https://e-catworld.com/display-posts/)

The purpose of the site is to provide a place for news, information, analysis and discussion of all things
pertaining to Andrea Rossi’s Energy Catalyzer invention which holds the promise of providing a much
cheaper, cleaner and more efficient means of power production than we have ever seen.
surprisingly this list is still active
with the latest  news:First Third Party Test Successful, Certifying Agency Testing Scheduled (https://e-catworld.com/2020/09/24/first-third-party-test-successful-certifying-agency-testing-scheduled/) (9/24/2020)

Note: All of said above in the last  few posts  starting  from
         https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551033/#msg551033 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551033/#msg551033)
         is talking about  LENR .
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 04:04:41 PM
PART#5
continuation from Part#4
Analysis of problem#3 listed in PART#2


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 04:06:59 PM
PART#5
continuation from Part#4
Analysis of problem#3 listed in PART#2
we can take all of mentioned and come to conclusion
If for the moment we  start to think that  for some reason : 
            -Andrea Rossi is not the  hoax magician.
            -Russian with  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs)   is not the  hoax magician.
            -Russian with  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551033/#msg551033 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551033/#msg551033) is not the  hoax magician.
            -Italian Scientists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-_T1nWqP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-_T1nWqP0)  who are base on Russian Experimenters are  not the  hoax magicians.
            -My own Experience with http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm (http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm) presented in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PMMK4KHXYU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PMMK4KHXYU) is not my hallucination.
            -My own suffering in Lithuania Experiment was manifestation of NEUTRON emission (and  Gamma as  phenomena associated with Neutron  emission  ) from Yoke.
             THAN WE HAVE MADE - a NEUTRON GUN .

AND NEUTRON GUN (neutron emission)  IS THE PRIMARY TOOL  ALWAYS PRESENT IN ANY and Every LNR ( LOW ENERGY NUCLEAR REACTOR)
By means of Neutron bombardment we affecting structure of an atom leading to  disintegration by means of  Transmutation.
-that would explain  Free Energy phenomena explainable is my experiments
-that would explain  what the energy comes from :

1. Harold COLMAN & Ronald GILLESPIE
Power Generator
https://www.nuenergy.org/a-new-apparatus-for-producing-an-electric-current/ (https://www.nuenergy.org/a-new-apparatus-for-producing-an-electric-current/)
2.Hendershot Fuelless Generator:
   https://revolution-green.com/hendershot-fuel-less-generator-fact-fiction (https://revolution-green.com/hendershot-fuel-less-generator-fact-fiction)
/
   https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=1166
 (https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=1166)
3. Nicola Tesla anecdote (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdote)  electric  car https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_electric_car_hoax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla_electric_car_hoax)



Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 05:17:51 PM
PART#6
 Ortec Neutron source.

 1. n. [Formation Evaluation]   A device for producing high-energy neutrons by using a charged particle accelerator.
Neutron generators are used in various pulsed neutron devices and some neutron porosity measurements.
In a typical device, deuterium (2D) and tritium (3T) ions are accelerated towards a target also containing the same isotopes.
When 2D and 3T collide, they react to produce a neutron with an energy of about 14.1 MeV.
The first neutron generators were built in the late 1950s and soon led to the first pulsed neutron capture (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_capture.aspx) log.   
Synonyms: accelerator source (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/a/accelerator_source.aspx)   
See: activation log (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/a/activation_log.aspx), chemical neutron source (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/c/chemical_neutron_source.aspx), neutron interactions (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_interactions.aspx), neutron porosity (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_porosity.aspx), pulsed neutron spectroscopy log

 (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/p/pulsed_neutron_spectroscopy_log.aspx)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyD3S8uGMWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6xRrDKR4Qo

I'm working on it
please come later
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 06:40:05 PM
PART#6 a
https://mountsopris.com/ql40-ngen-neutron-generator/ (https://mountsopris.com/ql40-ngen-neutron-generator/)
http://www.starfireindustries.com/ngentrade-neutron-generators.html (http://www.starfireindustries.com/ngentrade-neutron-generators.html)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2020, 07:09:44 PM
PART#6 b.

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Findico.phys.vt.edu%2Fevent%2F2%2Fcontributions%2F271%2Fattachments%2F208%2F231%2FSNAC_11_Raghavan.pptx (https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https%3A%2F%2Findico.phys.vt.edu%2Fevent%2F2%2Fcontributions%2F271%2Fattachments%2F208%2F231%2FSNAC_11_Raghavan.pptx)
than click on the picture
or
https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/neutronGenerator.html (https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/neutronGenerator.html)
or download  here:
https://indico.phys.vt.edu/event/2/contributions/271/attachments/208/231/SNAC_11_Raghavan.pptx (https://indico.phys.vt.edu/event/2/contributions/271/attachments/208/231/SNAC_11_Raghavan.pptx)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 30, 2020, 07:40:58 PM


-Lithuania experiment (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551370/#msg551370 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg551370/#msg551370))
-energy extraction from Schumann Waveguide (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU ) (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU)
 


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 04, 2020, 04:38:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE
What some of us don't know about  Nicola Tesla
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on October 04, 2020, 11:53:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suIAo0EYwOE
What some of us don't know about  Nicola Tesla
Wesley

We know that magnetization waves travel along ferromagnetic cores at a certain velocity (associated with domain wall movement, inter-atomic distances, electron flip times etc) so it may be possible to construct the equivalent to that Tesla fluid valve using ferromagnetic material as the transport channel.  Do you know if anyone has tried this?  A core where waves travelling in opposite directions have different characteristics could offer an interesting assymetrical transformer design where the primary does not see the secondary load, see sketch below.  I have used Tesla's fluid geometry but the actual geometry would rely on experiments.  For the experimenter it probably needs iron-dust cores cast into various shapes, but they would be large so as to get useable delay around the small interconnecting loops. 

Smudge
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 04, 2020, 07:00:20 PM
Quote
We know that magnetization waves travel along ferromagnetic cores at a certain velocity
There is a study on this topic.I apologize that in Russian ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 05, 2020, 06:50:03 AM
I hope you will be able to download this :
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer#pf1f

 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer#pf1f)
look  here for additional information:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg550404/#msg550404
The interesting is the date of it 1949

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Smudge on October 05, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
There is a study on this topic.I apologize that in Russian ...
Thank you kolbacict.  I can see from the equations that this is of interest.  I just need to get it translated.  I am of the opinion that the atomic dipoles responsible for ferromagnetism are the gateway to hidden forces of Nature that come from the virtual particles of free space.  And utilizing the propagation time delay effects of magnetic waves through transformer cores is one route towards obtaining an assymetrical system that yields OU.

Smudge
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 10, 2020, 03:33:42 AM

material for study
____________________

NMR:
1.https://overunity.com/18502/nuclear-magnetic-resonance-nmr/msg551729/#new (https://overunity.com/18502/nuclear-magnetic-resonance-nmr/msg551729/#new)

sub:
a.https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128035818028071 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128035818028071) Magnetic Viscosity

sub transmutation:
a.https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/30/ (https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/30/)
b.https://overunity.com/8503/ultrasonic-piezonuclear-reactions/30/ (https://overunity.com/8503/ultrasonic-piezonuclear-reactions/30/)  ULTRASONIC PIEZONUCLEAR REACTIONS

2. Controversy around  Fabio Cardone
a.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BfLeD01pbw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BfLeD01pbw)
  Convegno Lern Cirps Sapienza Roma Allan Widom fisico teorico di Boston 1
b.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcF-KSLIAWs)
  New type of penetrating radiation - Alexander Shishkin
c.https://e-catworld.com/2019/02/09/video-a-new-type-of-penetrating-radiation-alexander-shishkin/ (https://e-catworld.com/2019/02/09/video-a-new-type-of-penetrating-radiation-alexander-shishkin/)
d.https://staff.polito.it/alberto.carpinteri/piezonuclear%20reactions%20conference/4maggio2012.pdf
  PiezonuclearFissionFissionReactionsReactionsin in,        RocksRocks::EvidencesEvidencesfromfromMicrochemicalMicrochemicalAnalysisAnalysis, ,
   Neutron Neutron  EmissionEmission, and , and GeologicalGeologicalTransformation
   
e. https://www.technologyreview.com/2009/07/07/211779/can-pressure-waves-speed-up-nuclear-decay/
   Can Pressure Waves Speed Up Nuclear Decay?  
f. https://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3104 (https://arxiv.org/abs/0903.3104) Piezonuclear neutrons from fracturing of inert solids    F. Cardone, A. Carpinteri, G. Lacidogna
g.https://arxiv.org/abs/0910.2368 (https://arxiv.org/abs/0910.2368) 
   Reply to the "Comment on 'Piezonuclear decay of thorium' [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009)    1956]" [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009)  3795] by G. Ericsson et al F.Cardone, R.Mignani, A.Petrucci
h.https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0907/0907.0623.pdf (https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0907/0907.0623.pdf)
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/45872090_Comments_on_the_Reply_to_'Comment_on_Piezonuclear_decay_of_ (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/45872090_Comments_on_the_Reply_to_'Comment_on_Piezonuclear_decay_of_)
thorium_Phys_Lett_A_373_2009_1956'_Phys_Lett_A_2009_in_press_Phys_Lett_A_2009_in_press_by_F_Cardone_et_al      Comments on the "Reply to 'Comment on "Piezonuclear decay of thorium" [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009) 1956]' [Phys. Lett. A (2009, in press]" [Phys. Lett. A (2009), in press] by F. Cardone et. al 
i.   https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009PhLA..373.3797C/abstract (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009PhLA..373.3797C/abstract)
    Reply to “Comment on ‘Piezonuclear decay of thorium’ [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009) 1956]” [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009)  3795]
j.  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0375960109014893 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0375960109014893)
    Comment on “Piezonuclear decay of thorium” [Phys. Lett. A 373 (2009) 1956]
k. https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009PhLA..373.1956C/abstract (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009PhLA..373.1956C/abstract)
    Piezonuclear decay of thorium
l.

3 Neutron and  interaction  for  FE

a.https://mountsopris.com/ql40-ngen-neutron-generator/ (https://mountsopris.com/ql40-ngen-neutron-generator/)
  http://www.starfireindustries.com/ngentrade-neutron-generators.html (http://www.starfireindustries.com/ngentrade-neutron-generators.html)
  Neutron gun/ generator
b.https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_porosity.aspx (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/Terms/n/neutron_porosity.aspx)
  https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/en/Terms/n/neutron_generator.aspx (https://www.glossary.oilfield.slb.com/en/Terms/n/neutron_generator.aspx)
  https://ipo.lbl.gov/lbnl1764/ (https://ipo.lbl.gov/lbnl1764/)
  https://hackaday.com/2020/03/16/where-do-you-get-your-neutrons-neutron- (https://hackaday.com/2020/03/16/where-do-you-get-your-neutrons-neutron-)
  sources-for-nuclear-fusion-science-   medicine-and-industry/   *
  https://www3.nd.edu/~wzech/Application-Note-AN34-Experiments-Nuclear-Science-Experiment-18.pdf (https://www3.nd.edu/~wzech/Application-Note-AN34-Experiments-Nuclear-Science-Experiment-18.pdf)
  http://adelphitech.com/ (http://adelphitech.com/)   http://adelphitech.com/ (http://adelphitech.com/)
  http://adelphitech.com/products/dt109-dt110.html (http://adelphitech.com/products/dt109-dt110.html)  DT110-14 MeV (http://adelphitech.com/products/dt109-dt110.html) Neutron Generator
  http://adelphitech.com/products/dd109m-dd110m.html (http://adelphitech.com/products/dd109m-dd110m.html)  high yield fast-neutron generators
  http://adelphitech.com/products/dd109-dd110.html (http://adelphitech.com/products/dd109-dd110.html)  DD109 Neutron Generator
  https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/neutronGenerator.html (https://www2.lbl.gov/Science-Articles/Archive/neutronGenerator.html)  A new way to make "neuts" *
  http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ianrit/ners575/neutron.pdf (http://www-personal.umich.edu/~ianrit/ners575/neutron.pdf)   Neutron Counting
  https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2237&context=utk_gradthes (https://trace.tennessee.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2237&context=utk_gradthes) 
  A High-Energy Neutron Flux  Spectra Measurement Method for the Spallation Neutron Source
  https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/neutron-sources (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/physics-and-astronomy/neutron-sources)  Neutron Sources
  https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/an34-content.htm (https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/an34-content.htm) Experiments *
  https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp17.pdf (https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp17.pdf)  Neutron Activation44
  https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp23.pdf (https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp23.pdf)  Nuclear Techniques
  https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp18.pdf (https://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/course/22/22.09/ClassHandouts/Ortec%20AN34/Exp18.pdf) FAST neutrons
  https://www3.nd.edu/~wzech/Application-Note-AN34-Experiments-Nuclear-Science-Experiment-17.pdf (https://www3.nd.edu/~wzech/Application-Note-AN34-Experiments-Nuclear-Science-Experiment-17.pdf)
  AN34 Experiment 17Neutron Activation Analysis (Slow Neutrons)
  https://inforgrowth.com/report/1544067/neutron-source-generator-market (https://inforgrowth.com/report/1544067/neutron-source-generator-market)
  Global Neutron Source Generator Market Research Report 2019  *
  https://www.ortec-online.com/-/media/ametekortec/technical-papers/homeland-security-applications-and- (https://www.ortec-online.com/-/media/ametekortec/technical-papers/homeland-security-applications-and-)
chemical-   weapons-assay-pins/performance-car-mounted-neutron-gamma-ray-monitoring-system-illicit-material-  detection.pdf?dmc=1&la=en&hash=2775FC0355FBF8B33BC58CE0BC14FCF5
  Performance of a car-mounted neutron and gamma-ray monitoring system for illicit material detection.
  http://www.gammadata.se/assets/Uploads/Fission-Meter-Portable-Neutron-Source-Identification-System.pdf (http://www.gammadata.se/assets/Uploads/Fission-Meter-Portable-Neutron-Source-Identification-System.pdf)
  Fission Meter™Portable Neutron Source Identification System
  https://www.ortec-online.com/products/nuclear-security-and-safeguards/chemical-weapons-identification/pins3-cw-g2 (https://www.ortec-online.com/products/nuclear-security-and-safeguards/chemical-weapons-identification/pins3-cw-g2)
  PINS3-CW-G2 Portable Isotopic Neutron Spectroscopy
  https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/neutron-source-generator-market-analysis-and-advancements-outlook- (https://www.marketwatch.com/press-release/neutron-source-generator-market-analysis-and-advancements-outlook-) 2020-to-2026-vniia-adelphi-technology-ametek-ortec-gradel-nsd-fusion-2020-08-10
  Neutron Source Generator Market Analysis and Advancements Outlook 2020 to 2026
  https://www.ortec-online.com/products/nuclear-security-and-safeguards/neutron-fission-systems (https://www.ortec-online.com/products/nuclear-security-and-safeguards/neutron-fission-systems)
  Neutron/Fission Radiation Detection
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9DXecl-OX8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9DXecl-OX8) 
  homemade fusor (nuclear fusion reactor) - neutron and x-ray radiation, silver activation *
  https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10894-018-0182-1 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10894-018-0182-1)
 
Fusion Neutrons: Tritium Breeding and Impact on Wall Materials and Components of Diagnostic Systems
  https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013JPhG...40a5006W/abstract (https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2013JPhG...40a5006W/abstract)
  Neutron production from the fracture of piezoelectric rocks *
  https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0954-3899/40/1/015006 (https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0954-3899/40/1/015006)

  Neutron production from the fracture of piezoelectric rocks
  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313275918_Total_cross_sections_for_ultracold_neutrons_scattered_from_gases (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313275918_Total_cross_sections_for_ultracold_neutrons_scattered_from_gases)
   Total cross sections for ultracold neutrons scattered from gases
   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/30411897_The_microscopic_origin_of_thermal_cracking_in_rocks_An_investigation_by_simultaneous_time-of-flight_neutron_diffraction_and_acoustic_emission_monitoring (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/30411897_The_microscopic_origin_of_thermal_cracking_in_rocks_An_investigation_by_simultaneous_time-of-flight_neutron_diffraction_and_acoustic_emission_monitoring)
  The microscopic origin of thermal cracking in rocks: An investigation by simultaneous time-of-flight neutron diffraction    and acoustic emission monitoring
   https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51939788_Neutron_Production_from_the_Fracture_of_Piezoelectric_Rocks (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51939788_Neutron_Production_from_the_Fracture_of_Piezoelectric_Rocks)
   Neutron Production from the Fracture of Piezoelectric Rocks *
 

neutron porosity.
  c.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_QOg94J1bY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_QOg94J1bY)
  compensated neutron measurement

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 10, 2020, 04:33:24 AM

 properties of  Zenneck wave:
___________________________________

1. Surface wave cancellation electrical prospecting
   https://patents.google.com/patent/US2542462 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US2542462)
2. Waves at planar boundaries at normal incidence 
    https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-013-electromagnetics-and-applications-spring-2009/readings/MIT6_013S09_chap09.pdf (https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-013-electromagnetics-and-applications-spring-2009/readings/MIT6_013S09_chap09.pdf)
3. ELECTROMAGNETIC SURFACE WAVES 
    http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html (http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html)
4. ELECTROMAGNETIC SURFACE WAVES
    http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html#zenap (http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html#zenap)
5. SURFACE WAVE CANCELLATION ELECTRICAL PROSPECTING Patent
    https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/3a/ae/38/ae3495f1b588f4/US2542462.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/3a/ae/38/ae3495f1b588f4/US2542462.pdf)
6. Propagation Along a Two-Wire Line Located at the Air-Earth Interface 
    https://www.nist.gov/publications/propagation-along-two-wire-line-located-air-earth-interface (https://www.nist.gov/publications/propagation-along-two-wire-line-located-air-earth-interface)
7. Time evolution of the electric field using the rapid expansion method with pseudospectral evaluation of spatial   derivatives — Part 2: Inclusion of anisotropy and the earth-air interface
    https://library.seg.org/doi/abs/10.1190/geo2018-0143.1 (https://library.seg.org/doi/abs/10.1190/geo2018-0143.1)
8. A simplified calculation of transient            plane waves in a presence of an          imperfectly conducting half-space
     https://www.witpress.com/Secure/elibrary/papers/BE05/BE05050FU.pdf (https://www.witpress.com/Secure/elibrary/papers/BE05/BE05050FU.pdf)
9.  Comparative Study of the Hertz, Marconi and Tesla Low-Frequency Wireless Systems  *
    http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/compare.htm (http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/compare.htm)
10.Texzon Zenneck Standing Wave Wireless Power Transmission – World Wide *
    http://whodoeswhat.tv/2018/08/27/texzon-zenneck-wave-wireless-power-transmission-world-wide-nupower-development/ (http://whodoeswhat.tv/2018/08/27/texzon-zenneck-wave-wireless-power-transmission-world-wide-nupower-development/)
a.https://www.safie.hq.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1770582/air-force-signs-mou-to-test-resilience-improving-technology/ (https://www.safie.hq.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/1770582/air-force-signs-mou-to-test-resilience-improving-technology/)
11. Sommerfeld and Zenneck Wave Propagation for a Finitely Conducting One-Dimensional Rough Surface.
     https://jglobal.jst.go.jp/en/detail?JGLOBAL_ID=200902154287375971 (https://jglobal.jst.go.jp/en/detail?JGLOBAL_ID=200902154287375971)
12. How Surface Waves Reduce Through-Life Costs
     https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0020294013492287 (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0020294013492287)
13. Surface waves
     https://digital-library.theiet.org/content/journals/10.1049/pi-3.1953.0068 (https://digital-library.theiet.org/content/journals/10.1049/pi-3.1953.0068)
14. Zenneck Waves - I am having a hard time understanding this tech   
      https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/zenneck-waves-i-am-having-a-hard-time-understanding-this-tech.599501/page-6 (https://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/zenneck-waves-i-am-having-a-hard-time-understanding-this-tech.599501/page-6)
15. REDISCOVERING THE ZENNECK SURFACE WAVE *
      https://pe2bz.philpem.me.uk/Power/-%20HV/-%20Tesla/-%2021-CenturyBooks/Wireless/tws4.htm (https://pe2bz.philpem.me.uk/Power/-%20HV/-%20Tesla/-%2021-CenturyBooks/Wireless/tws4.htm)
16. Can Zenneck Surface Waves transmit large amounts of electrical power?
      https://www.quora.com/Can-Zenneck-Surface-Waves-transmit-large-amounts-of-electrical-power (https://www.quora.com/Can-Zenneck-Surface-Waves-transmit-large-amounts-of-electrical-power)
17.  ELI5: What is the Zenneck Wave? How does it work? How can Zenneck Wave transfer "utility-scale" electrical power     wirelessly? *
      https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/9vl0pq/eli5_what_is_the_zenneck_wave_how_does_it_work/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/9vl0pq/eli5_what_is_the_zenneck_wave_how_does_it_work/)
18.  On the existence and physical meaning of the Zenneck wave
      https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3367/UFNe.0179.200907j.0801 (https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.3367/UFNe.0179.200907j.0801)
19.  Tesla Tower 2.0 in Texas *
      https://www.lead-innovation.com/english-blog/death-of-the-power-cable (https://www.lead-innovation.com/english-blog/death-of-the-power-cable)
20.  A STUDY FOR THE PROPAGATION OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES OVER IMPERFECT GROUND PLANES BASED ON  WAVES OVER IMPERFECT GROUND PLANES BASED ON SCHELKUNOFF INTEGRALS SCHELKUNOFF INTEGRALS
     https://surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1179&context=etd (https://surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1179&context=etd)
21. The physical reality of Zenneck's surface wave: Showing that Zenneck's surface wave is not generated by vertical dipoles and is not needed to explain wave antenna operation (Monograph) Unknown Binding – January 1, 1937
      https://www.amazon.com/physical-reality-Zennecks-surface-wave/dp/B0008CST6M (https://www.amazon.com/physical-reality-Zennecks-surface-wave/dp/B0008CST6M)
22. On surface electromagnetic waves V N Datsko, A A Kopylov
      http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.205.5534&rep=rep1&type=pdf (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.205.5534&rep=rep1&type=pdf)
23.  Electromagnetic Wave PropagationLecture 12: Oblique incidence I
      https://www.eit.lth.se/fileadmin/eit/courses/eten05/ht2016/lectures/lecture12.pdf (https://www.eit.lth.se/fileadmin/eit/courses/eten05/ht2016/lectures/lecture12.pdf) ***
24.  Surface Electromagnetic Waves in a Metal (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271905529_Surface_Electromagnetic_Waves_in_a_Metal)
      Ultrahigh-frequency surface electromagnetic waves in an open waveguide (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257857686_Ultrahigh-frequency_surface_electromagnetic_waves_in_an_open_waveguide)
      On surface electromagnetic waves (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258301399_On_surface_electromagnetic_waves)
      On surface electromagnetic waves (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258301399_On_surface_electromagnetic_waves)    #2
      https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-surface-electromagnetic-waves-Datsko-Kopylov/a26041febf32138629dccf5e443a1db505525337 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/On-surface-electromagnetic-waves-Datsko-Kopylov/a26041febf32138629dccf5e443a1db505525337)
25.  Surface Electromagnetic Waves      https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5f63/113c3683c61430cb5dfeae32acdc548ff614.pdf (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/5f63/113c3683c61430cb5dfeae32acdc548ff614.pdf)
26.  Earth Transmission ***
       https://www.tntech.edu/engineering/research/cesr/wireless-power/power-through-earth.php (https://www.tntech.edu/engineering/research/cesr/wireless-power/power-through-earth.php)
27.  zenneck wave
      https://books.google.dk/books?id=-KX9CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA526&lpg=PA526&dq=zenneck+wave&source=bl&ots=zooWjLpUNA&sig=ACfU3U0N2bxYe-godW0zzxeB35Xf89knkA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBxeeS4enrAhVpo4sKHR0SCpM4HhDoATAGegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=zenneck%20wave&f=false (https://books.google.dk/books?id=-KX9CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA526&lpg=PA526&dq=zenneck+wave&source=bl&ots=zooWjLpUNA&sig=ACfU3U0N2bxYe-godW0zzxeB35Xf89knkA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiBxeeS4enrAhVpo4sKHR0SCpM4HhDoATAGegQIARAB#v=onepage&q=zenneck%20wave&f=false)
28.  Scientific report:
       on optimum excitation of ground waves ***
       http://ecee.colorado.edu/~kuester/ucb_emlab_sr053.pdf (http://ecee.colorado.edu/~kuester/ucb_emlab_sr053.pdf)
29.  Beverage antenna used for zenneck Wave
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna)
a. polarization:     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverage_antenna)
 30.Perfect absorption at Zenneck wave - plane wave transition
      https://research.aalto.fi/en/publications/perfect-absorption-at-zenneck-wave-plane-wave-transition (https://research.aalto.fi/en/publications/perfect-absorption-at-zenneck-wave-plane-wave-transition)
31.  International Electrotechnical CommissionZenneck Wave
      http://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ievref=705-04-67 (http://www.electropedia.org/iev/iev.nsf/display?openform&ievref=705-04-67)
32.  Zenneck Wave
      https://books.google.dk/books?id=hCV2Hz4SGYcC&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=zenneck+wave&source=bl&ots=-80qqGM8U0&sig=ACfU3U2IVDNFPniT4Frx-md0BiHch6Gv2A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdyaTv3-nrAhVkmYsKHWxiAQk4FBDoATAHegQIChAB#v=snippet&q=Zenneck&f=false (https://books.google.dk/books?id=hCV2Hz4SGYcC&pg=PA48&lpg=PA48&dq=zenneck+wave&source=bl&ots=-80qqGM8U0&sig=ACfU3U2IVDNFPniT4Frx-md0BiHch6Gv2A&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjdyaTv3-nrAhVkmYsKHWxiAQk4FBDoATAHegQIChAB#v=snippet&q=Zenneck&f=false)
33.   Zenneck Waves in Decision Agriculture: An Empirical Verification and Application in EM-Based Underground Wireless Power Transfer (https://docs.lib.purdue.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1037&context=cit_articles)
34.   Excitation of the Zenneck Wave by a Tapered Line Source
       https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8700789#:~:text=However%252C%20by%20using%20a%20tapered%20line%20source%252C%20a,to%20what%20is%20called%20an%20%22optimum%22%20line%20source (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8700789#:~:text=However%252C%20by%20using%20a%20tapered%20line%20source%252C%20a,to%20what%20is%20called%20an%20%22optimum%22%20line%20source).
35.   Download article :  Zenneck wave in agriculture ***
       https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer/link/5eb4036792851cbf7fae4e69/download (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer/link/5eb4036792851cbf7fae4e69/download)
36.  what is dielectric permittivity and dielectric constant? ***
     https://www.edaphic.com.au/soil-water-compendium/dielectric-permittivity/ (https://www.edaphic.com.au/soil-water-compendium/dielectric-permittivity/)
37. Zenneck Waves in Decision Agriculture: An Empirical Verification and Application in EM-Based Underground Wireless   Power Transfer
      https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer#pf1f (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341210497_Zenneck_Waves_in_Decision_Agriculture_An_Empirical_Verification_and_Application_in_EM-Based_Underground_Wireless_Power_Transfer#pf1f)
38.  Skimming the Surface: The Return of Tesla's Surface Waves *
      https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a8778/skimming-the-surface-the-return-of-teslas-surface-waves-15322250/ (https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a8778/skimming-the-surface-the-return-of-teslas-surface-waves-15322250/)
39. PATENT 2,542,462 C. i. BEARD SURFACE WAVE CANCELLATION ELECTRICAL PROSPECTING***
     
file:///C:/Users/bf/AppData/Local/Temp/US2542462.pdf

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 13, 2020, 03:39:40 PM
 New Energy Technology/Technologies Des Energies Nouvelles
by A. Michrowski
ISBN is 9780919969223 / 0919969224

   Publisher:The Planetary Association ..., 1990
Edition:Softcover

http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0hdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.20.14&d=HASHedccacb18da2d2ee0851c7&gt=2 (http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0hdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.20.14&d=HASHedccacb18da2d2ee0851c7&gt=2)

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 16, 2020, 01:03:08 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0ppe7sacw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0ppe7sacw&feature=youtu.be)
 for entertainment

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on October 18, 2020, 12:20:39 AM
Hello,

I was skimming through some  videos in Claudio Pace´s youtube-channel and found this
video about an experiment lead by Fabio Cardone :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-_T1nWqP0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ-_T1nWqP0)

This video is important for educational puposes and I will not comment on this. I would request
the members here to sharpen their mind and watch carefully what he is presenting here.
Just one question: what are the chemical properties of mercury ?

Regards
Mike
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 18, 2020, 05:31:08 PM
Hmm ... the aluminum cone will dissolve in the mercury. It turns out an amalgam of aluminum.amalgam is oxidized in air. we get aluminum oxide. I'm wrong ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 18, 2020, 07:59:44 PM
In an old mobile phone NOKIA, a coaxial cable loop is used to connect between the boards.the diameter of this coaxial cable is 0.16mm.!the cable is very high quality. insulation does not melt.how good are the electrical parameters for this diameter?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Kator01 on October 19, 2020, 07:23:01 PM
kolbacict,
exactly: here is the list of metals which can and cannot form alloys with amalgam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_(chemistry) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amalgam_(chemistry))
now this is the final blow for Claudio Pace´s scientific reputation.

15 Watt of ultrasonic power applied to such a small volume of mercury certainly  rip off molecules of aluminium by collapsing cavitation-bubbles which
then form aluminium-amalgam and he is presenting this as transmuted matter !  and by the way by this process certainly a good portion of mercury-vapor escaped into the room poisoning the lungs of the attendees. What a mess.

@wesley: you certainly have some scientists in your network who can be made aware of this fraud. This has to be stopped


Mike
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 21, 2020, 04:34:00 PM

kolbacict,
 (https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/msg550943/#msg550943)wesley: you certainly have some scientists in your network who can be made aware of this fraud. This has to be stopped


Mike


https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/msg550943/#msg550943 (https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/msg550943/#msg550943)
start to read from here  for the rest of the pages
such as:
https://overunity.com/18632/ultrasonic-mechanical-cavitation-used-to-transmute-matter/msg550945/#msg550945
the  page .



Wesley :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 23, 2020, 08:10:28 PM
Here is some guy acting as  PAAR consulting LLC4623 73rd St E, Bradenton, FL 34203.
He is selling kW'ts of  power in some magic box for you to use.
It promises 15 to 300kW but they don't say if it is per unit of time.
So there is difference between 300kW and 300kW/h
i
https://www.bizapedia.com/fl/paar-consulting-llc.html
 (https://www.bizapedia.com/fl/paar-consulting-llc.html)https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Boynton-Beach/paul-reynolds/101222688.aspx (https://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Boynton-Beach/paul-reynolds/101222688.aspx)
link#3 https://www.alignable.com/boynton-beach-fl/sustainable-solutions-consulting-llc/ssc
https://www.alignable.com/boynton-beach-fl/sustainable-solutions-consulting-llc
 (https://www.alignable.com/boynton-beach-fl/sustainable-solutions-consulting-llc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRK9lmzL3D8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRK9lmzL3D8)
The video is mostly in English.
The direct link to  company  Website is :
https://www.paar-energy.com/ (https://www.paar-energy.com/)
The link to their videos is:
https://www.paar-energy.com/energy-in-a-box-videos (https://www.paar-energy.com/energy-in-a-box-videos)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 04, 2020, 07:55:26 PM


Andrea Rossi News:
https://e-catworld.com/2020/10/31/rossi-e-cat-has-been-licensed-for-manufacturing/

the most recent  information is here :
the last one is from 1 hour ago.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 04, 2020, 11:51:07 PM
New form of I assume never able to blow  nuclear reactor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKeORXJ10YI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKeORXJ10YI)

Note:
  just to save  your time please watch this video from here:
https://youtu.be/QKeORXJ10YI?t=753 (https://youtu.be/QKeORXJ10YI?t=753)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2020, 02:57:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUYyHNzQ2AM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUYyHNzQ2AM)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_survey_(archaeology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_survey_(archaeology))
__________________
Proton magnetometer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_magnetometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton_magnetometer)
on land and underwater .
 marine magnetometer detection system. With a one Nano -Tesla (nT) sensitivity,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DNDlujo7J8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DNDlujo7J8)

It can also be useful in archeology in searching for buried foundations/walls.
https://satisgeo.com/magnetometers/pmg-2-proton-magnetometer-and-gradiometer/ (https://satisgeo.com/magnetometers/pmg-2-proton-magnetometer-and-gradiometer/)
The magnetometer finds much use in mineral exploration, oil & gas exploration, archaeology and military applications etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9nuDmLQug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p9nuDmLQug)
https://youtu.be/bEQX-ZRtQ44?t=256 (https://youtu.be/bEQX-ZRtQ44?t=256)
_______________________
military:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKEc_iolEu0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKEc_iolEu0)
 probes 30 cm for fine resolution scan and 120 cm for deep / large object location.
_______________________________
"flying" magnetometerProcyon 800E Towed Magnetometer Tes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_IASNs5cQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj_IASNs5cQ)
__________________________
science:
This video is interesting
GOES-R Magnetometer Boom Hot Thermal Deployment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iMh18J636g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iMh18J636g)
__________________________________
NMR Magnetometer
https://www.metrolab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PT2025_tech_note_NMR-Magnetometers-published-in-Magnetics-Technology-International.pdf (https://www.metrolab.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/PT2025_tech_note_NMR-Magnetometers-published-in-Magnetics-Technology-International.pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHfHBSGxKk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shHfHBSGxKk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTcDGZ-7zY0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTcDGZ-7zY0)
The sound of protons: My first NMR experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSnJietN4OM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSnJietN4OM)

I think Proton magnetometer and NMR magnetometer  is the same  device
___________________________________
Helium Magnetometer
 NASA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTThA_PmF1k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTThA_PmF1k)
__________________________________
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 12, 2020, 08:21:29 PM
And what is it ?  It works ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 07, 2020, 07:38:54 AM
One of the losses in the oscillatory circuit that reduce the quality factor is the energy lost with the field and the electromagnetic wave. Is it possible to exclude this so that there are no radiation losses?
Shielding with different materials is not suitable because there will be losses in the materials.
They say Tesla did it ... ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 07, 2020, 09:31:32 AM
And what is it ?  It works ?

https://www.google.com/search?q=welle+partikel+dualismus&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=welle+partikel&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.12707j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=welle+partikel+dualismus&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=welle+partikel&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0.12707j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

Kirchhoff : network,network knodes a. for linear circuits b. non linear circuits studying : POWER FACTOR



https://www.google.com/search?q=power+factor&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=power+facctor&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l7.9293j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=power+factor&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=power+facctor&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0i13l7.9293j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

Only reading IS NOT STUDYING !   


 How many cases ? Inclusions,Exclusions,PARADOX,PARANORMAL !Why,when,whom !?

STUDY METHOD :


Paper(book),unwritten,empty pages,different colours pencils : drawing 3d by 4d thinking ,


steps 1d 2d 3d 4d actio       to 5d  reactio : counterforces ,shielding/neutralizing during later physical work process


Mnemonics : Orientation 100% right,in 2/3/4d -imensional application,FEMM order,in software fixed !?

Ferdinand von Braun https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Braun (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Braun)


Von seinen Schülern sind Jonathan Zenneck (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Zenneck), ein Pionier der Ionosphärenforschung (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosph%C3%A4re), sowie Leonid Isaakowitsch Mandelstam (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Isaakowitsch_Mandelstam) und Nikolai Dmitrijewitsch Papalexi als Begründer der russischen Hochfrequenztechnik (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochfrequenztechnik), hervorzuheben. Max Dieckmann (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Dieckmann) war Doktorand (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_(Doktor)) und Assistent bei ihm.

Ions-R&D https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosph%C3%A4re (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosph%C3%A4re)


Parametric Generator
https://www.google.com/search?q=mandelstam+papalexi+parametric+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=mandelstam+papalexi+parametric+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.17737j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=mandelstam+papalexi+parametric+generator&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=mandelstam+papalexi+parametric+generator&aqs=chrome..69i57.17737j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)

His students : Mandelstam/Papalexi ( students in front his Pere,question and answer giving/receiving ' momentum')

          parametric generator = FE-machine

AUT: Winter( beside water ,motor ~ Adams Motor) ,Ferdinand Franz Cap,patent/s and published BOOKS- literature

About Ferdinand F- Cap
https://www.google.com/search?q=ferdinand+franz+cap&oq=ferdinand+franz+cap&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l5.9579j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=ferdinand+franz+cap&oq=ferdinand+franz+cap&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30l5.9579j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)


From the Innsbruck School of Plasma and Energy Physics founded by Cap, several students currently working as university professors in Germany and the USA emerged.

Aus der von Cap begründeten Innsbrucker Schule der Plasma- und Energiephysik gingen mehrere derzeit in Deutschland und in den USA als Hochschulprofessoren tätige Schüler hervor.

Who are these,their publications,patents ?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Innsbruck+School+of+Plasma+and+Energy+Physics&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=Innsbruck+School+of+Plasma+and+Energy+Physics+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.21506j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 (https://www.google.com/search?q=Innsbruck+School+of+Plasma+and+Energy+Physics&rlz=1C1AVFC_enPT930PT930&oq=Innsbruck+School+of+Plasma+and+Energy+Physics+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160.21506j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)






Self-capacitance to self-re-capacitance   capacitor surplus energy storage capacity ?

Welle,Wave ,Pulse : Phase,1/2 positive 1/2 negative wave-theory + practise +4d orientation (practical) rule by Fleming and Lenz parallel :


 1 is B and the other H,which when a. LEADING b.LAGGING  ?!

akustik,acoustics ~ frequency spectrum !? phonon ,sonar,echo-hall,delay : ac-/de-celeration, sonar-e ,re-son......




Logics : I invest 100% physical force,human mechanical, 1 round force = PUSH-puls/e

               into a motor and get 90% 1st round,81% second round,72,9%,....
  each round with 10% friction/drag losts ergo the TOTAT SUM(NIT) :



90% + 81% + 72,9% alone without following decelerating rounds/forces = 243,9% = over 100% input ergo

             243,9/100% = minimum 2,439 times work result and 1,439 times or 143,9% over-unity !

WORK PROCESS VELOCITY and WORK PROCESS SPEED ,physical difference !

Beside RPM, ? Drehmoment/angular momentum !
Virtual RPM and angular momentum in coils,solenoids application :

The Biot-Savart Law ( also known as Laplace or Ampere Law ) the Lorentz-Force Transformer,e=mc^2 applyer

Ionen/Plasma-Physics,also called Nuclear Physics

Sincere
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 26, 2020, 06:29:52 PM
Can somebody download Ruslan videos and post them on torrent for example ? They are quite large size and probably vanish soon
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 26, 2020, 08:22:06 PM
Ruslan MP3:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jgUJMy40W3JPBP9LtxlRdbCvOdTO5oRU?usp=sharing

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 27, 2020, 07:11:46 PM
Ruslan repeats 100% what Vasmus said!

Where is Dally now?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2020, 10:19:49 PM
Part#6
the similarity  to Slobodian Andrey is described here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg554252/#msg554252Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2020, 04:53:08 AM
Part#7
Here in this section I will say more about
 proposed  by Arunas way of understanding the phenomena related to charged particle
in relation to Ruslan's device.
__________________________________

in Part#4
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg554267/#msg554267 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg554267/#msg554267)

Here is  conclusion  ( barely formulated)by Ruslan
So say we are looking at  the Top Capacitor  of Tesla coil .


Quote
   than we deliver a rapid  strike of strong short modulating impulse that is imposed upon the  sinusoidal signal ( the carrier) 
(both coming from internal generators)
right before maximum of its amplitude.
 It looks like  HV spike and creates in effect a much greater response from ionized surrounding cloud  in amount of charge, 
when compared to the  summary of power wasted on  creation  of this response by Ruslan 's device.
So far  we  see no evidence  able to support such statement.
 
So lets analyze it from the  point of view of charged  particle in Top capacitor . but  first  we  explain what is  charged  particle and how it behaves.
 
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2020, 05:52:22 AM
Part#7a
Properties and behavior of:
1. charge particle in stationary position
2. charged particle in motion
3. particle  accelerated and  gaining speed.

I'm working on it
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 28, 2020, 08:49:15 AM
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/179973/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/179973/image//)
The smallest video was watched. On the 23rd minute he confused 7046 with 4046. PLL.
About the Akula's flashlight ...
Immediately attracted attention. :)
His drawling voice gibed in my ears. :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2020, 09:05:03 AM

The smallest video was watched. On the 23rd minute he confused 7046 with 4046. PLL.


Hmmm....
https://www.ti.com/product/CD74HC7046A   <-->   https://www.ti.com/product/CD74HC4046A
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 28, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
https://www.ti.com/product/CD74HC7046A

Maybe I'm wrong. I just had only 4046
But he speaks illiterately. IMHO
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on December 28, 2020, 12:17:25 PM
Ruslan repeats 100% what Vasmus said!

Where is Dally now?
Try Edward Lee
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2020, 01:16:08 PM
https://www.ti.com/product/CD74HC7046A

Maybe I'm wrong. I just had only 4046
But he speaks illiterately. IMHO

I don't know Russian very well but I can see Ruslan has a problem with the calculator  :o
He looks tired. Why did he record this video? He says no one will make any money on it. Has he been cheated?
He wants to show that he can give something away for free.
It confirms that the rule is the same for Dally, Vasmus, Kapanadze, Akula.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 28, 2020, 01:22:33 PM
Try Edward Lee

Yes  ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 28, 2020, 03:12:00 PM
Quote
I don't know Russian very well
Well, there is, honestly, nothing to listen to.No information. The truth has been viewed only half ... :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Utopia Now on December 29, 2020, 01:01:04 AM
Ruslan Live on Youtube Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE0nnCDlK0I
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2021, 03:12:31 AM
PART#1


Device producing :
0W IN and 2kW OUT:

https://youtu.be/BPdR1em-_5I (https://youtu.be/BPdR1em-_5I)


_
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2021, 04:42:37 AM
PART#2

https://youtu.be/zbmEdLzkaYU?t=112 (https://youtu.be/zbmEdLzkaYU?t=112)

https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=373 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=373)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2021, 07:27:29 PM
PART#5

picture#2
but taken from translated version
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 08, 2021, 09:19:24 PM
PART#8

The Tom Bearden
 Website

http://www.cheniere.org/misc/moscowuniv.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/misc/moscowuniv.htm)
I have problem with Tom ..
first of all OVERUNITY doesn't exist!!!!
 leads to this article :
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/moscowuniv.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/misc/moscowuniv.htm)
__________________
another paper that  comes out is general history of nonlinear oscillations :
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S163107211930049X (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S163107211930049X)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 09, 2021, 08:13:43 AM
I got into the hands of an interesting, incomprehensible device. What could it be?
about 10-15 turns of copper tape into a ring. And several turns of the same tape are orthogonal.
Around the circumference of the ring. There is a fluoroplastic film between the layers of copper tape.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 09, 2021, 03:26:27 PM
I got into the hands of an interesting, incomprehensible device. What could it be?
about 10-15 turns of copper tape into a ring. And several turns of the same tape are orthogonal.
Around the circumference of the ring. There is a fluoroplastic film between the layers of copper tape.

Yes ...
As I said before  in my post...

I  just found that :
the original picture file is : exactly form year 1999.
I'm proud of myself:___________________
original file :
w3.org/1999/
 :)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 10, 2021, 07:51:30 AM
Quote
are they attached to the side  of the foil wind?
Yes, almost all contacts are made from tape that is wound around the circumference of the ring.
11 contacts in total. Very close, after a quarter of a turn.
Quote
the hole  inside is to small for the core of a transformer.
There was probably a fixing screw.
Quote
what was it part of ?
The fact of the matter is that I don't know.
In one of the pictures, this product was not yet broken.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 10, 2021, 04:08:52 PM
There was probably a fixing screw.
that  sentence  helps a lot.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 10, 2021, 04:43:41 PM

Method of measurement of
A vector network analyzer (Agilent 4395A) is used to find the resonant frequency
and measure transmission behavior between Tx and Rx.
The measured intrinsic decay rate, connected lumped capacitance,
and resonant frequency of the resonant coils
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224235581_Efficiency_Analysis_of_Magnetic_Resonance_Wireless_Power_Transfer_With_Intermediate_Resonant_Coil/download

indicted at schematic HP4505A VNA was manufactured  in  2000. or maybe some time before that.. I'm not sure
Agilent 4395A 10 Hz to 500 MHz Agilent  (https://testequipment.center/Product_Documents/Agilent-4395A-Specifications-23081.pdf)
but all of that can be done  with HP 4194A too.

but if you don't have it than it can be done with  simple  function generator and  .. small coil  connected to  LED
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 11, 2021, 03:57:39 PM
Quote
A vector network analyzer (Agilent 4395A) is used to find the resonant frequency

You're kidding ...
This is not a land of endless possibilities.
Well, at least there is such a thing. Others do not have that. :) ;)
But none of this is clear. There is a resonance at 6 MHz.
The input and output of the frequency response meter is 50 ohms.
Maybe this is the influence (resonance phenomena) of the cable.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 11, 2021, 05:42:32 PM
p.s. I also reread their 1934 works on parametric excitation of oscillations.
They never talk about the OU in their work.
Or I don’t understand something.
The truth is I just don't understand NASA's interest in their work in 1969 ...
OU- (overunity) doesn't exist  , never existed and will never exist.
FE- free energy (or CE in Russian)  exists and is possible due to energy conversion where  initial energy is free of charge.

Or I don’t understand something.
The truth is I just don't understand NASA's interest in their work in 1969 ...

TECH-TRAN CORPORATION
Rancocas, New Jersey
https://www.usaopps.com/government_contractors/contractor-5617683-TECH-TRAN-CORPORATION.htm (https://www.usaopps.com/government_contractors/contractor-5617683-TECH-TRAN-CORPORATION.htm)
Power, Distribution, and Specialty Transformer Manufacturing
They  found  it interesting.
Many year later the French man  - (The guy from he video)  decided to give it the try.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 14, 2021, 09:13:03 AM
OU- (overunity) doesn't exist  , never existed and will never exist.
FE- free energy (or CE in Russian)  exists and is possible due to energy conversion where  initial energy is free of charge.

I do not mind.It's right.
But the Frenchman claims that he took his 200 percent somewhere ...
I watched it. Naturally I did not understand anything.  :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on January 14, 2021, 09:38:15 AM
The solar panel is FE or OU? Of course there is FE ! (OU = like perpetual motion)
This is a philosophical question rather than a technical one.
Everyone can tell the difference here.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 14, 2021, 11:01:03 AM
The solar panel is FE. of course.
p.s. Help, support the beast.
https://www.change.org/p/%D1%83%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%85%D1%8D%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%8E-%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8E-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8E-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%BD%D1%8B%D1%85-%D1%84%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B3-%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%86%D0%B5%D0%B2-%D1%83-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%88%D0%BA%D0%B8-%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B7-%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%85-%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%BC%D1%8F%D0%B3%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B5-%D0%BB/u/28360662
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 14, 2021, 07:53:32 PM
The solar panel is FE or OU? Of course there is FE ! (OU = like perpetual motion)
This is a philosophical question rather than a technical one.
Everyone can tell the difference here.
OU stands for overunity  and such  phenomena doesn't exist.

COP>1 exist in  refrigeration systems  but the total energy calculation  doesn't violate laws of Thermodynamics.

FE  stands for Free energy - it is like anything that is for free. 
-some other mechanism of nature, or someone invested in it  work, resources, so you can have it for Free.

Perpetual Motion
is the motion  where energy delivered to the system   equals energy consumed by the system  and as such
violates laws of Thermodynamics.

Wesley
   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 03, 2021, 10:04:54 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySEqZC5HwRA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySEqZC5HwRA)
Автономный Генератор Электроэнергии
Autonomous Electricity Generator

Translation of text in Russian:
Quote
For many years I was looking for a working sample of such a device, all the time
I came across fraudsters,
not a single invention of this kind passed the examination.
But not this time, they checked everything, measured everything, but the device works even in a closed loop
and with the power off in the room.
Currently, there is a working prototype that has already been
tested and tested, but so far it produces no more than 20W of energy.
Now we are creating a
syndicate of small investors in order to create
a device generating up to 1 MW and serial samples for the population
(apartments, summer cottages, offices) with a capacity of up to 1
0 kW
Why in Russia, because we want the introduction of these devices to start from our country.
Russian  authentic text:
Много лет искал рабочий образец подобного устройства, все время попадались мошенники, ни одно подобного рода изобретение не проходило экспертизу.
Но не в этот раз, проверили все, замерили все, но прибор работает даже в замкнутом контуре и при отключённой Электроэнергии в помещении.
В настоящее время есть рабочий прототип который уже проверен и испытан, но выдаёт пока энергии не более чем 20Вт
Сейчас создаём синдикат из небольших инвесторов с целью создания прибора генерирующего до 1 мВт и серийных образцов для населения
(Квартиры, дачи, офисы) мощностью до 10 кВт Почему в России, потому что хотим чтобы внедрение данных устройств началось с нашей страны.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on February 04, 2021, 06:19:29 PM
too late  >:(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on February 04, 2021, 06:35:14 PM
https://youtu.be/418807W-9UE
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2021, 02:24:34 AM
Sorry  I will post oversized pictures so you can se more details

 if you have problem  with   to large pictures  press on keyboard and hold
button ctrl
and while holding  this button    turn your Mouse wheel
and your picture will get smaller .

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2021, 02:36:06 AM
8 more oversized photos
if you have problem  with   to large pictures  press on keyboard and hold
button ctrl
and while holding  this button    turn your Mouse wheel
and your picture will get smaller .


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2021, 02:52:15 AM
SOME MORE  PHOTOS SHOWING  GROUND WIRE IN ELEVATOR

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 05, 2021, 02:58:21 AM
ground  wire connected to  cold water pipe in bathroom of the apartment

if you have problem  with   to large pictures  press on keyboard and hold
button ctrl
and while holding  this button    turn your Mouse wheel
and your picture will get smaller .


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 09, 2021, 03:03:04 AM
I see 3 problems with that Russian device from Moscow.
The problems are explained in the picture
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 09, 2021, 03:44:20 AM
video  is here
https://youtu.be/418807W-9UE (https://youtu.be/418807W-9UE)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2021, 04:04:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX21HCHlgKo
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX21HCHlgKo)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBuBivnhYo&t=17s
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBuBivnhYo&t=17s)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYv66yzEoXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZVdT_RuDI

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on April 02, 2021, 07:47:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX21HCHlgKo
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX21HCHlgKo)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBuBivnhYo&t=17s
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhBuBivnhYo&t=17s)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYv66yzEoXc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYv66yzEoXc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZVdT_RuDI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfZVdT_RuDI)

Wesley
Hi stivep,
I have attached AI enhanced image for your viewing pleasure captured at 39sec  from this Ethan Krauss YouTube video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jQcf899NsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jQcf899NsA)
We can see that smd components is used to multiply voltage.
Nothing to add.But i had to shrink 21mb full image a lot to comply with the attachment size requirement.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2021, 06:13:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0cytSQR0s0
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0cytSQR0s0)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCbNpRrXoWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2xRHjsi7zY

 Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 02, 2021, 07:27:28 PM
 for these who don't want to calculate but just try  100kHz  HV coil  for Tesla coil:
2088 turns  at length  of 1/4 of km
30 gauge wire
4.5" outside  OD  PVC pipe.
and Tesla Coil Winder .

https://youtu.be/rKGX_o1CyO4?t=132 (https://youtu.be/rKGX_o1CyO4?t=132)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv-27wt5e9U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv-27wt5e9U)
(#0010​) Automatic Tesla Coil Winding Machine - Part 1
____________________________________________


and here you have  everything calculated checked and ready for 560kHz
https://youtu.be/rKGX_o1CyO4?t=278 (https://youtu.be/rKGX_o1CyO4?t=278)


Note :
 Zenneck Wave  will work perfectly  good  on that frequency


____________________________________________

And this video  looks like it is just for fun but it may be  quite parctical
https://youtu.be/VnO7hNSpWq0?t=101

 (https://youtu.be/VnO7hNSpWq0?t=101)
____________________________________________

(#0047​) Vacuum Filling Oil in High Voltage Scope Probe - DRSSTC vs. Spark Gap #07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aau83j4Sr5g


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 04, 2021, 08:22:38 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0cytSQR0s0
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0cytSQR0s0)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCbNpRrXoWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2xRHjsi7zY

 Wesley
And what is it ? Where to read the description?  We did this, the sparks were much smaller ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 13, 2021, 04:40:09 AM
very nice  presentation of  wave properties and wave  behavior including standing  wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeq0Omi7DQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSeq0Omi7DQ)
Physics 220 Lab 12 E&M Waves

 So  when dealing with Tesla Coil it becomes handy.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2021, 02:35:38 PM
https://youtu.be/4E7Phl_xBH4?t=714 (https://youtu.be/4E7Phl_xBH4?t=714)
Interesting presenter from the perspective of variety of information given

 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Stela on April 28, 2021, 10:25:12 PM
Vous ne comprenez pas le Français mais cette vidéo est là pour décrédibiliser l'énergie libre en ne montrant que les projets que nous savons ici déjà fake. Si vous ne comprenez pas la totalité d'une vidéo étrangère ne la partagez pas.

Bonne soirée de la France.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 29, 2021, 03:42:07 PM
veuillez vous rendre sur ce lien et formuler votre réponse. / malheureusement vous ne répondez pas à mes réponses amicales
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 01:50:39 AM
How ferrites are made ?
Ferrite Core
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGBZTDsE2k


 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbGBZTDsE2k)Some home made methods but not so perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU)
I have the same HP4194A too.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 02:24:22 AM
How to Identify an Unknown Ferrite Core
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q95Vwk3kZok
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 02:50:39 AM
#84: Basics of Ferrite Beads: Filters, EMI Suppression, Parasitic oscillation suppression / Tutorial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81C4IfONt3o

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 03:19:04 AM
AFTER THIS VIDEO YOU WILL UNDERSTAND  TED ANIS INVENTION  I assume.

Core Memory Explained and Demonstrated
This is specially important as it shows square hysteresis.
and it shows switching by ferrites.
So for Ted Anis application this is perfect.
But where to get them now?
and you need probably around 100 000 of them to be glued
or crashed  into powder and re-formed in  desired shape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwsInQLmjXc


 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwsInQLmjXc)Rule of  practical approach applied here:
Every big device may be tested  by watching behavior of its tiny  mini version  of it ,
You'll get small power  from it but  you'll see the effect.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NdaClouDzzz on May 01, 2021, 09:53:04 AM
https://youtu.be/fwpP7gNHVGE (https://youtu.be/fwpP7gNHVGE)

https://youtu.be/XQlSM0uLkko (https://youtu.be/XQlSM0uLkko)

https://youtu.be/Kdup42Epq0o (https://youtu.be/Kdup42Epq0o)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 01, 2021, 06:01:33 PM
Quote
Some home made methods but not so perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAsRp4dvJCU
I would like to know why this man makes a core for " bucking coil ". ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 07:18:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2h60hCJh2U

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2h60hCJh2U)Wesley :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 01, 2021, 11:43:29 PM

 There is only one reasonable solution and that is as the video claims that the resonant electrical action of the LED light circuitry once excited continues to scavenge energy from the alternating potential on the open ended live wire next to the neutral wire feeding it.
Think about my question...So how is it that a single supposedly "neutral" wire bonded to an Earth ground in the electrical panel could continue to power the LED light?. s
AC
It is simple to explain but needs some knowledge about power systems.
https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/types-of-electrical-power-distribution-systems (https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/types-of-electrical-power-distribution-systems)

It is inductive coupling.
Not going deep into explanation  think that  every day  you are walking on  thousands  of Volts of potential from power grid,  lightning discharges of nearby  thunderstorms,
and bird sits on HV  power lines and nothing happened  yet .. if the distance  between  bird legs is small enough  at step voltage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_potential_rise#:~:text=%22Step%20voltage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_potential_rise#:~:text=%22Step%20voltage)

The same story is with  NdaClouDzzz videos  especially when he uses transformer-less 12V power supply, (with no  isolation transformer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 04, 2021, 03:41:37 PM
some  sidekick  from  main focus:

https://kids.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/frym.2019.000 (https://kids.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/frym.2019.000)
gas hydrates.
Gas hydrates are a solid form of water,
rather like ice, that contains gas molecules locked up in a “cage” of water molecules.
Gas hydrates are found on continental shelves around the world and in permafrost in the arctic.
We are interested in gas hydrates because they could be used as a future source of natural gas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trDB5hN4Ug (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3trDB5hN4Ug)
Dry water and Burning ice: all about gas hydrates

so why we are  interested with that?
China announced  that as the first in the world they  accomplished  excavation of it.
Russian propaganda says that this is more energy  than oil, coal and natural gas together but.. they rather  "do" oil now

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 04, 2021, 03:50:11 PM
Yes,very nice ,Wesley !
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://worldoceanreview.com/de/wor-1/meer-und-chemie/methanhydrate/ (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://worldoceanreview.com/de/wor-1/meer-und-chemie/methanhydrate/)
And for the C-content in  in european future possibly the emission price :
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/klimaschutzgesetz-co2-preis-von-100-euro-rueckt-in-greifbare-naehe/27154472.html?ticket%3DST-792215-MqGWaHU5pcIvZB4KvPwB-ap6 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/klimaschutzgesetz-co2-preis-von-100-euro-rueckt-in-greifbare-naehe/27154472.html?ticket%3DST-792215-MqGWaHU5pcIvZB4KvPwB-ap6)
For the one side CO2-from-air-scrubbing industry : financed by CO2-emissioner
https://www.wri.org/insights/6-ways-remove-carbon-pollution-sky (https://www.wri.org/insights/6-ways-remove-carbon-pollution-sky)
4) Direct Air Capture
 a 2018 study estimates (https://www.cell.com/joule/abstract/S2542-4351(18)30225-3) that it would cost about $94-$232 per metric ton.
Sincere OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2021, 09:35:55 PM
https://strannik-2.ru/index.php/forum/svobodnaya-energiya/582-samyj-prostoj-generator-svobodnoj-energii?start=120 (https://strannik-2.ru/index.php/forum/svobodnaya-energiya/582-samyj-prostoj-generator-svobodnoj-energii?start=120)
In here  Rakarskiy  talks about  the simplest "FE"  device - the linear transformer..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_transformer_driver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_transformer_driver)
And that is in connection with  Zenneck Wave in the interface  in configuration  of  modulating  signal over  the carrier.
https://youtu.be/pMI_n6MyaIs?t=25[/url]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Pulsed_Power_Facility (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_Pulsed_Power_Facility)
what's big can be small but it works.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 01, 2021, 11:12:34 PM
the energy source is natural....
it doesn't need to be build or paid for.
It only needs to be directed
All is needed is just a vector.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 02, 2021, 12:21:29 AM
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch-Effekt_%28Elektrodynamik%29 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch-Effekt_%28Elektrodynamik%29)
this was good
the angle is Brewster Angle ..

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on June 02, 2021, 01:30:31 AM
light as electron-gas/ion-gas or plasma
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://uol.de/f/5/inst/physik/ag/physikpraktika/download/GPR/pdf/Polarisation.pdf (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://uol.de/f/5/inst/physik/ag/physikpraktika/download/GPR/pdf/Polarisation.pdf)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster-Fenster (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster-Fenster)
power frequency to radio frequency sender to receiver reconvert to power frequency
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=3214690A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19651026&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=3214690A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19651026&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2005055409A2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2005055409A2/en)not unknown :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=philo+farnsworth&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=philo+farnsworth&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)
Sincere
OCWL

p.s.: Und " liebes" lankaIV ,You would get in Germany(and Deutsch speaking countries)  some anger with such "lovely  ???  words",
assuming You being   § 175 – Wikipedia
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C2%25A7_175 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C2%25A7_175)
Sometimes good translation is faked 8)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Sw0PDgHU4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1Sw0PDgHU4)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on June 05, 2021, 07:16:58 PM
Wesley,I am simple thinking !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAx_jNQLPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAx_jNQLPM)                                 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jaY5VQMTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jaY5VQMTg)
1280x720 Pixel bei 50 pictures pro Sekunde                                            3840x2160  Pixel bei 50 pictures pro Sekunde
signal-to-signal  image-/and sound repeat quality transmission experiments ? 1-4% losts efficiency in quantity/quality !?
"...or ..." was related K. Masaki his description ,f.e.  :
The magnetic field lines generated when an electron flow having the same phase of voltage and current flows through the coil also penetrates a metal plate or seawater.
Eindringtiefe ? Funny (but not only,some " or" cases more)
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.thm.de/mni/forschung/institute-gruppen/imps/imps-strahlung-information/strahlenschutz/einwirkung-und-durchdringung-von-strahlung.html (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://www.thm.de/mni/forschung/institute-gruppen/imps/imps-strahlung-information/strahlenschutz/einwirkung-und-durchdringung-von-strahlung.html)
material viskosity : Debye,Engeler and other physical units
Sincere
OCWL

p.s.: it is also the question about "service quality and warranty",
        defined f.e. in Germany by law
        https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C3%259Cbermittlungsirrtum (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C3%259Cbermittlungsirrtum)
        free translator we have to see " at your own risk, legal recourse is excluded " ,but will/wants Viziv work for free ?


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 05, 2021, 08:37:19 PM
Wesley,I am simple thinking !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAx_jNQLPM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPAx_jNQLPM)               =https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jaY5VQMTg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2jaY5VQMTg)
1280x720 Pixel bei 50 pictures pro Sekunde                           3840x2160  Pixel bei 50 pictures pro Sekunde
signal-to-signal  image-/and sound repeat quality transmission experiments ? 1-4% losts efficiency in quantity/quality !?
Very nice example.
I can  use it to  adjust my cameras to the  max focus.
But   that is only one of the factors.

Key Differences
The 4k image is smoother, and has more detail than the 1080p image.
Edges around objects in the 1080p picture are noticeably more serrated. ...
4k content is still quite rare, most of what you watch will probably be lower-resolution satisfied up scaled to
UHD, which will look different from native 4k and 1080p.
certain resolutions can only be seen on specific displays that are large enough to make a difference.
- if your monitor isn't big enough to show a difference between the two, paying the extra cost may not be worth
the benefit of buying 4K.


My motion  picture cameras are  :
4K,    Sony Ax-100                          fdrax100 (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1022653-REG/sony_fdrax100_b_hdr_ax100_full_hd_handycam.html)
5.7k   EVA-1              Film camera    https://youtu.be/CppZpVfgCE8       hphoto (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=5.7k%20%20%20EVA-1&N=0&InitialSearch=yes&sts=ma)
,
6K     BMPCC6k Pro.   Film camera    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltMBvp2ENM0
when rendering the original higher resolution e.g 6K
into the  4k  resolution - the picture is always better  than that from any original 4K  Camera   

_______________________________________
Explanation of the above:


what is Film camera in 2021?
it doesn't use film and chemicals.
It is called  Film camera but it is digital.
A film camera often has a higher resolution than what is found in most
digital cameras used  for documentary or  photographic work.
Well this is not always true.

Film Camera is  the Cinema Camera and no any other type of camera  is allowed by Netflix
or Hollywood.

Film Camera  has  in mind  almost manual operation and definitively
no continuous auto focus. It's as if we take  a power  of Ferrari
and manual transmission, manual brakes, manual light control, and manual fuel pump, manual speed control
but you'll never need to pay any tickets.
So survival is not guarantied.
The beauty  of it is that if you are  average  driver you simply can't drive  such car
you must be an artist and professional.
and that is why  Film Camera can't be used as a - "run and gun" 

Explanation:
"Run and gun"- is a term used to describe a style of filmmaking with very little production equipment
besides a camera. Run and gun is typically used in documentary-style filmmaking, as filmmakers aren’t
always given the luxury of a controlled set.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 27, 2021, 03:17:14 PM



 ___________________________________________________

Few rules that never changes:
1. overunity  doesn't exist.
2.  perpetual motion machine  is impossible to be made,  but  everything  else is more close or more  far to perpetual motion . 
a.-   practicality any  machine   close or far  to  perpetual motion is important  just from the  perspective of its application.
3.   only original natural energy  is for free, everything else  must be paid for.
     That means  every conversion to the  form  of energy  we prefer .. cost money.
      but it may be one time cost only  plus some  periodic maintenance .

a.-   "closeness"  to Perpetual Motion  is measured by efficiency  efficiency is a measurable concept, quantitatively determined by the ratio of useful output to total useful input.
 example:
efficiency  of  gasoline engine 40%
efficiency  of solar panels are roughly between 15% and 18%
efficiency of Niagara falls waterfall 60 to 75%
efficiency of  energy Extraction  from Schumann waveguide  is not important
as we don't pay for any  of  its  Energy at any point of conversion.


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From perspective of economics
Perpetual Motion  is  when - $1  in  your hand  taken out from your left  pocket and  than placed into  right pocket still reminds   unchanged
_____________________________________________
 In physics :
 the cost of energy  used   to  move $1 from left to right pocket using  your  hands  is coming from food you consumed .  And if someone  else  paid for that food than you'll have perpetual motion but only from your point of observation.
Evaluation  of devices of any  of the  presenters.
question they must answer:
-if it works than show me  extra energy  compensating losses
 -If you can't show or explain   to me the origin of  extra energy  than we have two  possible options:

1- the device is  using additional energy  that is paid by nature but we just don't see it yet  with:
-our   measurement devices
-and we don't  understand the mechanism  of that particular energy conversion yet.

2- the device is fake  among 99% of other fakes.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 01, 2021, 12:46:10 AM
Breakthrough in  Nuclear Fusion? - Prof. Dennis Whyte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4) 1 gram of Deuterium oxide gives 10MW  of energy ;

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And this is  newer  Year 2021
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8uYNhevRtk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8uYNhevRtk)
  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkpqA8yG9T4)10 times more energy  than delivered
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on August 01, 2021, 01:02:32 AM
5th dimensional mathematics exclude the closed system analysis,
and in this state, thermodynamics becomes irrelevant.

Homemade Heavy Water Concentrator::::

1” pvc or acrylic tubing 10-feet in length.
Suspended vertically
Fill with boiling water.
Siphon the lower 1ft after cooling.

Rinse and repeat.

Once you have harvested 10ft of water,
reboil
And extract gen2 1ft of water 10x

Continue this process for 10 cycles.

You will have high purity deuterium oxides.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 24, 2021, 06:07:15 PM


So much happened  in the meantime.
- Death of Tariel Kapanadze ( not verified   yet )
- Viziv  Chapter 11
Experimenter is publicly active/ inactive  for the reason- and there is a reason for it.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559510/#msg559510)
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559524/#msg559524 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559524/#msg559524)

Wesley


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 25, 2021, 12:48:13 AM
This is receiver used by us for experiments.
SPM-139  Wandel Goltermann  Selective level meter.
50Hz-32MHz
SSB, CW.

second picture is  giving you close look.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 25, 2021, 12:55:06 AM
This is the same  function two receivers  but  by American HP3586B
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 14, 2021, 04:36:40 PM
Some news  from India
presentation and conference in Indian style  2 weeks ago 
Inventor -  Amit Sehrawat
Said to be patent  holder , but patent was not found by me.
Device  Gravity buoyancy  power plant said to be 50kW/h
Load was not inexpressive  3 light-bulbs.
Presentation was in Hindu language
_________________________________
Problem : how he could get patent  if he stays that device works against law of physics.

Source of information :
Andrey Tirtha  commenting video  (in Russian  only)
This guy comments are  far from  accuracy nor value but...
If anyone know how to  electronically translate  youtube voice  into English   let me know.
https://youtu.be/MUlj45q-PRw?t=229 (https://youtu.be/MUlj45q-PRw?t=229)

______________________________
 Youtube channel of inventor :Amit Sehrawat
https://youtu.be/q5_QF_nX81A?t=328 (https://youtu.be/q5_QF_nX81A?t=328)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz7_2IS_Ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ntz7_2IS_Ow)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfP-2sD3bI4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfP-2sD3bI4)

All videos in his channel :
https://www.youtube.com/user/akpatent2011/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/akpatent2011/videos)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on September 14, 2021, 06:22:11 PM
Problem : how he could get patent  if he stays that device works against law of physics.
patenting means "making public" ,german "Offenlegung"  .
For the inventor or clearer: the applicant ,private/industry/commerce,are two ways of technical devices to patent :
a. "Utility model " patent application,10 years validity
b. "Technical Standart" patent application,20 years validity
It is ever possible to apply "perpetuum devices",functional or not, for patent : as Utility model !  ;)
There are thousands "sleeper" in the archives,for freaks/researcher often in "foreign,for reader unknown/uncommon, language" ,
or with title : "without title"  8)  invention class ?
Multilingual researcher have it easier ! :)  But now : automatic translator ! Other will also find "treasures" ! :'(

youtube offers also ,beside the Uttar Pradesh GBP plant vid,related Amit Sehrawat (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC26ibBGfLygpiCTXZK2km2Q) :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3-3ELoBqc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl3-3ELoBqc)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 22, 2021, 02:24:58 PM
My work: when  files are open for later review
I search it , and here is  the result of the search.


body of invention:
//The present invention can then be used by allowing radiant energy to strike the top of the compound//
 //compound Si2 HSb2 which is poured into a mold.//

//amplification factor is typically 184,000 times the power input.//
//his invention has nothing to do with semiconduction as it relates to solid state electronics or the creation of electricity from solar radiation. //
link:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

_ ______________________________

Patent:US5252176 (A) ― 1993-10-12
Status: expired
legal status:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/inpadoc?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)
Original document:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=5&date=19931012&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#)

_______________________
search links:
1. With Si2HSb2 crystal ( electret) 4kW/h
https://autocostruire.forumcommunity.net/?t=60961849 (https://autocostruire.forumcommunity.net/?t=60961849)
https://autocostruire.forumcommunity.net/?t=60480820 (https://autocostruire.forumcommunity.net/?t=60480820)
2. Robert HENSON Si2HSb2 Amplifier
http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html (http://www.rexresearch.com/hensonsihsb/henson.html)
3. laser to Si2HSb2 crystal propolution rocket power.
 https://bobinedinamiche.forumcommunity.net/?t=61902840 (https://bobinedinamiche.forumcommunity.net/?t=61902840)
4.Re: Curiosity on chemical process (https://overunity.com/16875/curiosity-on-chemical-process/msg507915/#msg507915)
https://overunity.com/16875/curiosity-on-chemical-process/msg507915/#msg507915 (https://overunity.com/16875/curiosity-on-chemical-process/msg507915/#msg507915)
5.Cristallo Si2HSb2 - Brevetto
https://conoscenza6.webnode.it/l/cristallo-si2hsb2-brevetto/ (https://conoscenza6.webnode.it/l/cristallo-si2hsb2-brevetto/)
6. neutron amplification:
https://www.radioactivityforum.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3449 (https://www.radioactivityforum.it/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3449)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2021, 05:47:03 PM
Topics  targeting  very much specified subject matter.
one is in English another in Russian:
1.https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560346/#msg560346)2.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg560156/#msg560156)

_________________________________________

Dr James F Corum and his brother Kenneth Corum. Viziv. Texon .. Tesla Tower in Milford Tx  and FE...
James  F Corum work was  quoted also by 
some kind of  seminarian, or priest ,making Intimidating  modern science  errors
But the article below is worth your time from historical perspective:
https://news.ag.org/en/News/Four-Honored-with-General-Superintendent-s-Medal-of-Honor?D=%7BA4E03528-9D9E-4538-9FD6-87E8D6162D92%7D

 (https://news.ag.org/en/News/Four-Honored-with-General-Superintendent-s-Medal-of-Honor?D=%7BA4E03528-9D9E-4538-9FD6-87E8D6162D92%7D)
Dear reader. Invest  time, some but not a lot of money, read, interact, experiment and  build the device
converting energy  from its original natural form and called by you now  Free Energy
.if you will...
Entire  energy extraction  presented by me and energy transfer presented by Dr Corum is made from coils and capacitors only

_________________________________________
Let's sort some :
1. Quoted text:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/a_technical_analysis_of_the_extra_coil_as_a_slow/

 (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/a_technical_analysis_of_the_extra_coil_as_a_slow/)In regards to
positron
( look at the picture below - in green color)
Quote
(positron current)
There  are two  articles:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron)
would-a-flow-of-current-of-positrons-
 (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/488455/would-a-flow-of-current-of-positrons-zap-us#:~:text=To%20your%20question%2C%20yes%2C%20positrons,positrons%20moving%20right%20to%20left.)If world was made from antiparticle and antimatter than we would have positron current.
Positron
is antiparticle of electron that is part of atom and atom is part of mass.
When  positron  collides with electron  they  both stop to exist and we have in effect two photons
traveling 180 degrees apart in opposite directions. That is how PET tomography   works.
 


2.
Quote
because he had build the hydroelectric station there 

 Ames Hydroelectric Generating Plant, constructed in 1890 near Ophir, Colorado
was build by Westinghouse. to drive the mining operation.for Gold King Mine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_King_Mine) 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_Hydroelectric_Generating_Plant
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_Hydroelectric_Generating_Plant)Tesla moved to  Colorado Springs in  1899.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on September 25, 2021, 10:54:29 PM
Here is  the nature of the problem I have.
Quote
  reflected without change of phase

There  are  three  opinions where two  of them represents scientific papers
conforming that this is what is taking  place.
no reversal of phase.


1. dalkon (https://www.reddit.com/user/dalkon/) Op · 5y (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/comment/d5oe74c/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)    text from forum:
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf
 (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/a_technical_analysis_of_the_extra_coil_as_a_slow/)
2. the original PDF of Dr Corum about slow wave is here:
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf
 (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/a_technical_analysis_of_the_extra_coil_as_a_slow/)Note : address for both links is the same but to get to original Dr Corum  paper you need  to press
on the very top of the page  link . as explained in picture #2



3. https://archive.org/details/electromagneticw0000jord/page/n9/mode/2up
 (https://www.reddit.com/r/Tesla/comments/4u6a4z/a_technical_analysis_of_the_extra_coil_as_a_slow/)this link is not giving full text of:
Electromagnetic waves and radiating systems by Jordan, Edward C. (Edward Conrad)


It looks like  something I'm deeply confused with .

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 06, 2021, 09:46:25 PM
Stivep,
Tesla transformer is OU. Slow wave secondary helical in resonance is accumulating energy.
We have some energy "for free", or another way said- Nature gives it.
In resonant tank, one impulse results in tank oscillation. We charge capacitor only  ONCE , discharging it through spark gap makes MANY oscillations ( this is when Nature gives something extra ).
Each of this MANY oscillations gives off energy from primary to secondary, where that extra energy is accumulated.
It is like a grain of wheat that turns into a bowl of wheat.
We have ONE grain, put it into soil, Nature turns it into bowl of grains.
Oscillation of tuned LC circuit is a key to OU.
And Tesla mastered this setup.


Best Regards,
Pix aka Wojciech



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 07, 2021, 10:25:07 AM
Hi Wesley,
Resonant LC circuit like Tesla magnifier is "Free".
For ONE impulse we have MANY oscillations that we harvest.
Like swing or pendulum- you give it a one push, it swings many times.
Or a wheat grain- you plant one grain, you will get whole ear of grains.
Doesn't matter how it is named, OU or "Free", there are just a words.
Nature gives it.
It is open circuit.


Kind Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 07, 2021, 11:23:42 PM
Hi Wesley,
1.Then how  Tesla Magnifier works? In primary circuit capacitor is charged to spark gap break voltage and then oscillations starts.
All those oscillations are accumulated in secondary ( with losses).
But it is evident that system energy is raising because of those oscillations (they are "free").
Additionally if resonant frequency of Tesla Magnifier is exact as some natural backround earthly EMF fields,
then this open circuit is harnessing extra energy from enviroment ( earth-ionosphere wave gude space).
Kapanadze always talks about enviroment. Correct me if I am wrong.
2.Ordinary heat pump has COP of 2-3. Extra energy is taken from enviroment in the form of heat. 1kW of electrical energy
consumed by work of compressor and fan gives 2-3kW
of energy in the form of heat extracted from ambient air.
3.Ferromagnetism. Ferromagnetic material amplifies external magnetic field hundreds and thousands of times.
4.Avalanche. Photomultiplier, electrons multiplier, even ordinary spark gap . Process multiplies number of electrons (current).
It is like a chain reaction.
I don't like playing the words what is OU or what is "free". It is obvious there is no "free", but always converted from some other
source that we are not paying for- like sun rays converted in PV panel.


Please see attached the closest patent in my opinion to TPU.
Kind Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 08, 2021, 01:14:55 AM
Hi Wesley,
1.Then how  Tesla Magnifier works?
Kapanadze always talks about enviroment.

2.Ordinary heat pump has COP of 2-3.

3.Ferromagnetism. Ferromagnetic material amplifies external magnetic field hundreds and thousands of times.

4.Avalanche. Photomultiplier, electrons multiplier, even ordinary spark gap . Process multiplies number of electrons (current).
It is like a chain reaction.



Add 1Here you have link to  what looks like reputable electrical engineering site.
https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/magnifying-transmitter-nikola-tesla
 (https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/magnifying-transmitter-nikola-tesla#:~:text=The%20magnifying%20transmitter%20was%20an%20adaptation%20of%20the,tuned%20receiving%20circuit.%20Wireless%20Global%20Transmission%20of%20Power)This is exactly the text  you would agree with.

Here you have much better explanation by Serbian scientist Dr Jovan Cvetić.
https://pennedout.com/things/aetheric_physics/teslas_magnifying_transmitter_principles.pdf



 Add 2
 
Quote
Ordinary heat pump  has COP of 2-3.
https://www.sfu.ca/~mbahrami/ENSC%20388/Notes/Second%20Law%20of%20Thermodynamics.pdf (https://www.sfu.ca/~mbahrami/ENSC%20388/Notes/Second%20Law%20of%20Thermodynamics.pdf)

Add 3
Quote
A magnetic field of about 1 T can be produced in annealed iron with an external
field of about 0.0002 T, a multiplication of the external field by a factor of 5000!
the explanation is here:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html

 (https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/magnifying-transmitter-nikola-tesla#:~:text=The%20magnifying%20transmitter%20was%20an%20adaptation%20of%20the,tuned%20receiving%20circuit.%20Wireless%20Global%20Transmission%20of%20Power)Add 4 this is not like  chain reaction. 
An electron multiplier consisting of several electrodes (dynodes) is covered with a layer of secondary emissive material,
but multiplication is given   at  the expense of energy delivered to each one of dynodes.
https://psec.uchicago.edu/library/photomultipliers/Photonis_PMT_basics.pdf
 (https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/magnifying-transmitter-nikola-tesla#:~:text=The%20magnifying%20transmitter%20was%20an%20adaptation%20of%20the,tuned%20receiving%20circuit.%20Wireless%20Global%20Transmission%20of%20Power)Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 08, 2021, 09:13:57 AM
Vladimir Atsyukovsky also believes that Tesla's transformer is over-unity.
Due to the energy of the ether.  ???
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 08, 2021, 10:04:32 AM
Hi Wesley.
Thanks for links to articles.

1. Quote :
"Summary:Tesla magnifying Transmitter is only making HV and low current easier."


High voltage is on the top terminal of Tesla secondary, high amperage is at the grounded part. Tesla was stating that idea is to create a
huge oscillations of reactive power and convert part of that reactive power to to real power. Still, energy accumulation and gain in
Tesla Magnifier is coming mainly from primary circuit oscillations. Stepanov patents are also based on creation a lot of reactive
power by resonant circuit and converting that back to active power.


2. Heat pump and ferromagnetism are examples  that we can get something extra from enviroment and nobody is calling this OU or free energy.
3.What is your opinion about Thonemann patent I attached in my previous post.
TPU looks like is based on the principle of non indictive current drive by travelling wave. Principle used to create heating current in plasmas.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 08, 2021, 10:16:06 AM
Witam,
co do tesla magnifier'a to zawsze można przetestować w mikroskali na przykład na symulatorze, niżej przedstawiony
zmodyfikowany schemat poglądowy dla symulatora (pewnie w rzeczywistości może i by działał, ale trzeba sprawdzić),
oczywiście elementy dobrane "na oko", ale jest jeden fakt nie zmienia fazy napięcie w punktach kolejno między cewkami od L2 do L5.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 09, 2021, 06:11:10 PM
Wesley, what do you think about Atsukovsky's opinion about the Tesla transformer? ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 18, 2021, 04:35:14 PM
So many BS on this forum.
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 19, 2021, 12:11:03 AM
So many BS on this forum.
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o
Please specify.

I'm not on  O.U.R.
https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375although (https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375although)

_______________________________________________________

https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375 (https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3085189A/endirect (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3085189A/endirect) download link :
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/99/e8/3c/26db34923fe819/US3085189.pdf
 (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/99/e8/3c/26db34923fe819/US3085189.pdfI)I must say you are the one ...worth my time.
You may try to catch me on something I said...if you  can... :)
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Driving frequency modulation system and method for plasma accelerator
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Some literature  to share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soCfpyu2q3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soCfpyu2q3A) Making Tube Amplifiers from TVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978) Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA) Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier Teardown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978) Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGdQ0C7CYg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGdQ0C7CYg)  Teardown of a Microwave Amplifier and a Traveling Wave Tube

________________________________________________________________________________
About inventor :
Peter Thonemann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enVux_Dhjr8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enVux_Dhjr8)

Quote
In 1947, Cousins and Ware began experiments using pinch in toroidal tubes.
Thonemann was able to arrange a small amount of funding, and in 1948 began basic experiments with electrical discharges in a linear tube containing mercury gas to study the pinch effect.
By the next year he had moved to a larger copper torus and was able to demonstrate the pinch to Frederick Lindemann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Lindemann) and John Cockcroft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Cockcroft).
Thonemann became the Atomic Energy Research Establishment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_Energy_Research_Establishment) (AERE) Head of Research on Controlled Thermonuclear Reactions in 1949, a position he held until 1960.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann#cite_note-FOOTNOTETimes2018-1)

pinch effect
plasma_physics Cylindrical%20pinch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinch_%28plasma_physics%29#:~:text=%20These%20include%3A%20%201%20Uncontrolled%20%E2%80%93%20Any,called%20a%20stabilized...%206%20Cylindrical%20pinch%20More%20)
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-details-of-the-pinch-effect-and-magnetic-fields-in-plasma-physics (https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-details-of-the-pinch-effect-and-magnetic-fields-in-plasma-physics)
https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Pinch+Effect (https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Pinch+Effect)
Quote
At Harwell, Cockcroft had successfully argued for the construction of a much larger machine, ZETA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZETA_(fusion_reactor)).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann#cite_note-FOOTNOTETimes2018-1) By 1957, early indications were that ZETA had successfully produced tiny amounts of fusion, and the story began to leak to the press.
This led to considerable coverage about Thonemann's role in the Australian press.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann#cite_note-FOOTNOTEJames2018-2)
In January it was announced that ZETA had succeeded.
After further work, it became clear that the signals of fusion were false, and the story had to be withdrawn, causing great embarrassment.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann#cite_note-FOOTNOTETimes2018-1)

https://youtu.be/L0KuAx1COEk?t=1829 (https://youtu.be/L0KuAx1COEk?t=1829)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 19, 2021, 10:54:34 AM
Hi Wesley,
I stated that OU site is full of BS. It is hard to find a valuable information because it is immediately covered by tons of BS.
Your topic about Zenneck surface wave is very informative.
But it deals with "transmission of energy".
I am more concerned about creating/converting/getting some energy.
Thonemann patent could be found on internet US3085189. It is used to drive current in tokamak plasma for heating it. The same effect is happening if instead plasma we insert conductor.
Similiarities with Steven Marks words:
1.Patent is owned by US Atomic Energy Commision.
2.Electrons drift  in gas or central conductor caused by travelling wave is enchancing that travelling wave. That gives feedback effect which is feeding that process. "Furnace that is feeding itself"
3.DC in central conductor.


PS.
In fact I pointed this patent to overunityforum a while ago  ;)


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 02:29:29 AM
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o

Analysis of the patent
no final conclusions  are made in this  post yet:

so :
1.   we can place any tube inside of helix ( coil).2.   That tube will have   two electrodes from both  ends.
3.   one of electrodes will act as cathode and another as anode.
3a. anode "may not be" needed if we plan to shot the particle out ...
      -that can be compared to:
      CRT of TV where  screen doesn't have phosphor screen and  anode grid.. the particle is accelerated and just shot out.
      however traditional CRT mechanism of accelerating is much better for that.


4. While particle in circular tube  the wave makes  full 360 degrees, the wave in the circuit LC  is "dying"( please read in the text of  the patent)
   this point 4 will be corrected in next comment as it is not accurate.

5.   It is  an electro-magnetic induction device for the conversion of radio frequency electrical energy into direct current electrical energy,
      we delivering :
RF at 1MHz
of power ~2-3kW
and in result we  have at the ends of the vacuum tube:
 4-5V 
of DC power ~2-3kW

________________________________________
However  we can also  make reverse action.
where we delivering  DC to the tube and we getting in result the  ~1MHz...2-3kW

Yet another  scenario is that when we
 "modulate" DC( with voice) varying its amplitude
or  we do reverse action means  we take 1MHz and modulate it with  AM Voice than   the other  part of the device  acts as demodulator..


So it is a sort of  very clever  transforming device....a "transformer"
 however  coil 20 ( figure 1) has yet another application

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 03:55:42 AM
to get full text of the patent 
https://patents.google.com/patent/US3085189A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3085189A/en)
and than  on the right hand side  click
Download PDF

____________________________________________________
Acceleration mechanism:

From the perspective of transmission line:
 made of C and L the impedance matching  doesn't care about individual
12 winds sections  of the coil spaced by every  next C capacitor .
The shorted  end is not seen as  shorted transmission line but as the last 12winds ending the LC section .

Note:
 50 Ohm  impedance   output/input is the widely  used standard for all of the devices
in the world such as  generators , analyzers, amplifiers and so on.

From view  of the 50 Ohm generator output:
-the entire section of all L and C connected to the generator , must represent  by itself the impedance of 50 Ohm to reach SWR 1:1
So  at resonance  for generator the entire coil/capacitors assembly acts as the load.

-Well not ....  only the resistive R load is the pure  load converting energy into  heat.   
The LC "loads" don't dissipate  energy
Quote
reactive loads such as inductors and capacitors dissipate zero power,
yet the fact that they drop voltage and draw current gives the deceptive impression
that they actually do dissipate power. This “phantom power” is called reactive power,
and it is measured in a unit called Volt-Amps-Reactive (VAR), rather than watts.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/ (https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-11/true-reactive-and-apparent-power/)

but to understand  why we say that any LC antenna is the load  to the transmitter even if LC  doesn't dissipate energy
there is a need for deeper  explanation .. so I  just stop here  for now...
think of it as:
-LC circuit doesn't dissipate energy because Wesley said so and he gave link to this explanation .
- any antenna  is a... LC circuit and  we often  call it a load as   it acts as a load but..from another hand the LC circuit 
   can't dissipate reactive power..



 it is not important how many LC sections is there.. it must be  50 Ohm... that's all.
In reality I don't believe  that 50 Ohm standard applies there.
-the output of the generator can be made to match to whatever is the  impedance of the  LC assembly.
 When you make experiment , you care less about the international standards as long as it works for you..
... it is just easier for you, to make generator  with impedance  matching that of  coil capacitor assembly winded on the glass tube - accelerator 

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 Form particle in vacuum tube perspective: nothing is important 
the particle  is affected by drag made by first section of 12  winds  and  accelerated by second section and so on...



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 24, 2021, 12:09:57 PM
Hi Wesley,
Imagine process:
-central conductor is "kicked" by HV source to free electrons from metal lattice while at the same time travelling wave process described in the patent goes on.
Electrons drift is done much easier then, without ohmic loss caused by metal lattice collisions.
To visualise it better- electrons jumps out of the conductor during HV potential "kick" and then are dragged alongside conductor by travelling wave, falling back to central conductor. Net current and voltage difference occurs at the ends of central conductor.
Maybe that is a key to SM words about "kicks" and a "catalyst"?


Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 24, 2021, 01:57:40 PM
What is this, an analog computer?
To simulate the Schrödinger equation in real time?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 02:07:25 PM
Analysis of the patent:
 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071)


You confused me:
Hi Wesley,
Imagine process:
-central conductor is "kicked" by HV source
we have traveling wave in the coil around the tube  but not inside of the glass tube...
in the glass tube we have DC electron drift. from cathode to anode... if we have anode.. as this can be just  a fist stage of an  electron gun..
the cathode is not heated - it is cold cathode.
the tube has  vacuum inside :- it means no grid.. no anode under  HV..
the different story is when patent is talking about propelling "jet " engine application..

here is the quote from the patent:
Quote
The invention is based on the phenomenon that the progressive magnetic field of a traveling Wave (for example the traveling
wave produced in a loaded transmission line or by spaced coils excited in different phases) exerts a unidirectional drag upon electrons in the field and that conversely
a unidirectional notion of electrons tends to produce or enhance a traveling wave.

 
Meaning of Traveling wave  may be confusing as explaining   formula not always relates to
the origin of the wave and the type of the wave. So longitudinal waves are excluded from quantum  worlds and belongs entirely  into classical mechanics.
So when  you look at  wave phenomena you must !! always remember  that you are reading the right explanation for right  type of wave.
To make it more confusing..
classical physics  called classical mechanics is  an observable world - something we can see or sense without special equipment..
-some wave behavior in both  words the classical physic and quantum physics can be very similar so often we use  longitudinal wave behavior to 
explain electromagnetic waves that belongs to quantum world.
example: the statement
Quote
Traveling wave  is a wave in which the medium moves in the direction of propagation.
applies to  longitudinal mechanical wave  that belongs to  classical mechanic section of the physics
here is yet another  explanation of Traveling  wave:
 https://byjus.com/physics/travelling-wave/#:~:text=A%20wave%20can%20be%20described%20as%20a%20disturbance,the%20medium%20is%20known%20as%20a%20travelling%20wave (https://byjus.com/physics/travelling-wave/#:~:text=A%20wave%20can%20be%20described%20as%20a%20disturbance,the%20medium%20is%20known%20as%20a%20travelling%20wave).


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 24, 2021, 04:59:52 PM
Hi Wesley,
Thanks for your time analysing patent.


In the first section of patent (claims) it describes that  unidirectional current could be driven by progressive magnetic field of travelling wave  if there is fixed longitudal metallic conductor in the centre :
"The drag may be utilised for the acceleration of elec
trons in a vacuum discharge tube to resuit in a new form
of linear accelerator.
Or it may be utilised for establishing a unidirectional
current or voltage in a circuit comprising a relatively
fixed longitudinal conductor or semi-conductor. In this
case the exciting alternating current energy and a recti
fying device results which yields a uniform or modulated
output dependent on the exciting or input energy".


We know that in metals  flow of current is experiencing resistance due to collisions with atoms in metal lattice.
This is my proposal to overcome or reduce ohmic losses for  electrons drift in central conductor, caused by progressive magnetic field of travelling wave.
By kicking them out of central conductor by HV pulses at the same time.
Thermionic emission may also take place and enhance the process once central conductor gets heated by current flowing.
As SM stated for his TPU, he had a "DC current with some hasch".
Very interesting  thing for Thonemann energy converter is that :
" progressive magnetic field of a travelling Wave (for ex
ample the travelling wave produced in a loaded transmis
sion line or by spaced coils excited in different phases)
exerts a unidirectional drag upon eiectrons in the field
and that conversely a unidirectional notion of electrons
tends to produce or enhance a travelling wave. "


So we have self supporting action.


This is a beauty:
Progressive magnetic field could be easily created by loaded transmission line or by multiphase winding. So, for coils drive we can use even 3 phase current from wall socket.


Kind Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 24, 2021, 06:29:57 PM
Wesley,
"The drag may be utilized for the acceleration of electrons in a vacuum discharge tube to result in a new form of linear accelerator.Or it may be utilized for establishing a unidirectional current or voltage in a circuit comprising a relatively fixed longitudinal conductor or semi-conductor. In this case the exciting alternating current energy and a rectifying device results which yields a uniform or modulated output dependent on the exciting or input energy".


Quote: "you can't accelerate electrons in conductor".
Indeed. That is why I want to kick them out of conductor, by HV pulse . Now they can be accelerated by progressive magnetic field of traveling wave at the moments they jumped out of conductor  ;)


Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 06:38:22 PM
Analysis of the patent:
 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071)

Wesley,
"The drag may be utilized for the acceleration of electrons in a vacuum discharge tube to result in a new form of linear accelerator.
Or it may be utilized for establishing a unidirectional current or voltage in a circuit comprising a relatively fixed longitudinal conductor or semi-conductor. In this case the exciting alternating current energy and a rectifying device results which yields a uniform or modulated output dependent on the exciting or input energy".
True but  there is no word about proposed by you tube with conductor inside..
In order TO KICK electrons out of the conductor it must be representing a cathode but not the  conductive path from  one side of the tube  to another.

Please read my comment about  acceleration from above.
So how do you propose your own device ...BASED ON ALL SAID ABOVE.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 24, 2021, 07:00:26 PM
Wesley,
My proposal:
Central conductor in form of ring, may be inserted in vacuum glass tube ( to ease exit of electrons when kicked by HV pulses), outside are located coils for creating progressive magnetic field of travelling wave.
Process:
1. create travelling wave  by loaded transmission line or multiphase driven coils upon central conductor ring located inside
2. kick central conductor with HV pulses
3. when electrons are kicked outside central conductor by HV pulse they experience acceleration by travelling wave and they drops back to central conductor. Jumps and acceleration of electrons repeat every HV pulse. That is creating current flow and potential difference in central conductor.  Additionally, accelerated electrons when they fall back to central conductor may collide with electrons inside conductor and give them energy necessary to leave conductor. This process may multiply current.


Please see attached. But of course arrangements may vary. We may not use vacuum glass tube but dielectric around central conductor, the important is to kick electrons out of conductor.


Regards,
Pix



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 07:22:26 PM
Analysis of the patent:
 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071)


if the red  circle inside if the vacuum tube is your closed coil acting as electron emitter, how do you apply high voltage
to it?
What is the  path of the electrons emitted  from the conductor?
where are  the potential difference points (like in normal accelerator  anode  cathode)?
what is the gain  (an increase in the value of power)   you getting from any of your proposed configuration?

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 24, 2021, 07:43:41 PM
Wesley,
To kick central conductor by HV we need to introduce another electrode.
It may be another conductor located outside vacuum glass tube. Glass serves isolator. On top of it we locate driving coils or traveling wave armature coils.


Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2021, 09:11:58 PM
Analysis of the patent:
 https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071)


In picture from above named Question.jpg
 - redacted by you there is presence of:
1. HV inner coil acting upon another inner coil that is inside of glass envelope making 1:1 "air" transformer.
    Because HV impulse is AC (leading edge falling edge) it will induce  HV in open loop inside of the  glass envelope.
2. Because HV impulse is AC (leading edge falling edge) it will induce  HV in  accelerating set of coils - its LC components.
    for accelerating of electrons there is a need of  anode and cathode or  cathode and  target ending point for accelerated particles.
    You don't have this structure inside the glass envelope.
e. the direction of electrons  is perpendicular to the direction of acceleration now.
__________________________________________________________________
 You didn't respond to the questions:

where are  the potential difference points (like in normal accelerator  anode  cathode)?
what is the gain  (an increase in the value of power)   you getting from any of your proposed configuration?

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 24, 2021, 10:36:30 PM
Wesley here is a not so simple question and it's not what we are always told
How fast does an electron travel through a wire or should I say - a magnetically charged electron
or is it the other way round, what ever!

I ask this as if it traveled at a constant speed
then how could any thing possibly work ?
Regards Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 25, 2021, 02:17:23 AM
How fast does an electron travel through a wire
I ask this as if it traveled at a constant speed
then how could any thing possibly work ?
An electron in the copper wire travels at a speed of about 1 cm/sec. This is about as fast as an ant scurries on the ground.
The speed of an electron in a wire really has virtually nothing to do with the speed of a signal.
https://www.informit.com/articles/article. (https://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2916283&seqNum=4#:~:text=An%20electron%20travels%20at%20a%20speed%20of%20about,to%20do%20with%20the%20speed%20of%20a%20signal.)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 25, 2021, 09:44:31 AM
Nie kapuje poco mu drut w środku, przecież im większa gęstość zjonizowanych atomów gazu tym większa przewodność, a poza tym nie trzeba ani MHz, ani kW i niekoniecznie muszą być też impulsy HV żeby zjonizować gaz, np.: lampy wzbudzane indukcją magnetyczną https://cdn.fulham.com/PDFs/Fulham_HighHorseInduction.pdf .
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 25, 2021, 11:22:27 AM
To jakie jest minimum dla jonizacji gazu ? Najpierw następuje przebicie, a potem podtrzymanie. Przebicie to HV, a podtrzymanie już nie koniecznie. np.Lampy rtęciowe.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 25, 2021, 12:14:10 PM
Niema konkretnej stałej na tak ogólne pytanie, gdyż to jest problem złożony obliczeniowo, np.: symulacja lampy bez-elektrodowej
https://www.comsol.com/model/electrodeless-lamp-10062
https://www.comsol.com/model/download/789421/models.plasma.electrodeless_lamp.pdf
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 25, 2021, 05:14:20 PM
What is this, an analog computer?
To simulate the Schrödinger equation in real time?
can you give me link to the article or book I can find on the net?
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 25, 2021, 05:28:39 PM
Wesley,
Quote:
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"where are  the potential difference points (like in normal accelerator  anode  cathode)?
what is the gain (an increase in the value of power)   you getting from any of your proposed configuration?


Reply:
In my proposal there is no need for anode and cathode, because central conductor is acting both.
Emitting electrons during HV pulse- free electrons outside conductor being accelerated by progressive magnetic field of traveling wave,
and they fall back to conductor, eventually kicking off more electrons.  It might act like dynode  electrons multiplication ,
an "extra" process for electrons drag inside conductor.

To be clear- all above proposals for HV "kicking" of central conductor are just my guess,
I didn't tested them in practice. It is just a thinking how we could improve process of electrons drag inside conductor by traveling wave,
by giving them an extra energy and possibly Dynode-like multiplication effect by accelerating them when they jumped outside conductor.


But let's put aside all my proposals and guessing.
Let's come back to original text of Thonemann patent, it is clearly mentioned :
Progressive magnetic field of traveling wave could be used to drive current in longitudinal conductor or semiconductor.
Unfortunately,in his patent he presented examples to drive current in vacuum tubes with anode and cathode, 
he didn't presented example with solid conductor.

I assume Thonemann didn't lie in his patent and  it is true statement that current in solid conductor could be driven this way.

Driving current in solid conductor by his invention- "PER SE" it is very interesting,
because we will not have Lenz action like in normal electromagnetic induction ( transformers, generators).
And effect ( current  flowing in conductor) is ENHANCING the cause (progressive magnetic field of traveling wave).
Not acting AGAINST the cause.
This is a beautiful effect itself which is worth exploration.

Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 25, 2021, 06:20:00 PM
Unfortunately, I don’t know where it came from.
Found in my folder with pictures.
I was interested in the three-dimensional picture at the bottom.
Does this mean that we can model four-dimensional and more things in our three-dimensional world?
If there are four or more branches in the nodes of the circuit?
And why are analog computers undeservedly forgotten in our digital age?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on October 25, 2021, 07:51:34 PM
https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=717705#717705 (https://www.skif.biz/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=717705#717705)
I've already seen it somewhere ... ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 26, 2021, 09:44:26 AM
Z zimnej katody przez którą płynie prąd nie da się tak łatwo wyciągnąć elektronów (gładka powierzchnia, korozja jonowa), poza tym łatwiej z zimnej katody posiadającej ostre krawędzie, kolce, trzeba by wypychać elektrony napięciem ujemnym w stosunku do siatki(bramki) która jest masą, natomiast łatwiej jest wyciągać elektrony z gorącej katody. Ale jak przyśpieszysz elektrony polem magnetycznym czy elektrycznym szybkie elektrony padające na przewodnik będą ci wybijać elektrony przewodnika(cel) i wtedy będziesz emisję promieniowania jakiegoś nie koniecznie x-ray (zależy od prędkości elektronu) poza tym (gładka powierzchnia, korozja jonowa).

Poza tym ogólnie nie wiem jaki chcesz efekt końcowy tego wszystkiego uzyskać, gdyż bawić w projekty gdzie medium głównym jest plazma, cząstki, przyśpieszanie czego kolwiek, jest złożone obliczeniowo, dużo różnych procesów odbywających się jednocześnie i dużo różnych strat, a efekt końcowy słaby a nie kiedy niebezpieczny x-ray gamma itd....
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 26, 2021, 10:46:41 AM
Łukaszu,
To o czym piszesz to tylko szczegóły techniczne, zaś ważna jest zasada w jaki sposób urządzenie to może działać. Ja opisałem propozycję procesu który może dać interesujące efekty i jest prosty.
Oczywiście że najlepiej jak centralny przewód z którego jest katoda dla ułatwienia emisji elektronów z powierzchni może mieć ostre krawędzie, de facto może to być nawet przejechany papierem ściernym przewód miedziany.
Wybite elektrony impulsami HV przyspieszone postępującym polem magnetycznym opadając na powrót na przewód katody mogą spowodować efekt powielaczowy a dodatkowo rozgrzewając przewód termoemisję.
Wszystko w sumie:
1. Dryft elektronów w przewodniku spowodowany postępującym polem magnetycznym, jak to jest zastrzeżone w patencie- powodujący przepływ prądu i różnicę napięcia na końcach przewodu. Który wzmacnia przyczynę tego dryftu, czyli postępujące pole magnetyczne. Nie zachodzi efekt Lenza.
2. Efekt powielaczowy, jeśli zgodnie z moją propozycją spowodujemy wybicie i przyspieszenie elektronów poza katodą.
To wszystko może spowodować że otrzymamy bardzo ciekawe urządzenie w  które w sposób niekonwencjonalny wygeneruje nam energię elektryczną. Czy COP takiego urządzenia będzie >1 tego nie wiem.
Warto by wypróbować.
Już sam fakt że w przewodniku możemy spowodować przepływ prądu w wyniku postępującego wzdłuż przewodnika pola magnetycznego , i jest to efekt samo wzmacniający się- jest fascynujący i obiecujący.


Pozdrawiam,
Pix



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 26, 2021, 11:34:55 AM
Question ,
Does anyone have information about "Peristaltic Tokamak"?
I can't find many information on internet, or it is behind pay web sites.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on October 26, 2021, 07:44:00 PM
Widzę że bawimy się w analogie ?
Zamiast piasku dajmy ciężki blok znajdujący się na dnie dużego wąskiego zbiornika. Załóżmy ze opanowaliśmy metodę przypinania i odpinania do tego bloku pustego pływaka i przesuwanie bloku do dna zbiornika i poza szczyt zbiornika.Dopinamy pływak, blok wypływa parę setek kilometrów na szczyt zbiornika gdzie odpinamy pływak i przesuwamy blok tak aby opadając poza zbiornik wygenerował nam energię elektryczną (też musimy użyć do tego sprytnej metody i generatora prądu)W sumie co otrzymamy ? Zamianę energii potencjalnej na kinetyczną i dalej na elektryczną.
W sumie to cały myk w tym przyspieszaniu jest taki ,że my nie przyspieszamy naszych elektronów ale elektrony które są obecne w otoczeniu i wysoce energetyczne
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 09:49:49 AM
Aby daną cząstkę przyśpieszyć to ta cząstka najpierw musi być podatna na źródło przyspieszania, najczęściej musi mieć ładunek dodatni lub ujemny. Żeby uzyskać cząstki podatne to trzeba jonizować atomy pierwiastków (najczęściej gazowych) energią jonizacji (kJ/mol) aby dane atomy mogły pozbyć się najczęściej elektronu, lub zastosować emiter elektronów. W otoczeniu niema wolnych elektronów wysoko energetycznych (bo byś nie przetrwał w takim środowisku). Elektrony występują wtedy gdy ustawisz nadajnik radiowy o danej częstotliwości i obciążysz go odbiornikiem nastawionym na tą samą częstotliwość, lub w bliskim obszarze iskrownika linii wysoko napięciowych, jak również chwilowo po uderzeniu pioruna, itd, ale to są elektrony swobodne "niskoenergetyczne".

IMHO - Ja to zauważyłem jedno na tym forum zbyt wszystko mocno upraszczacie co prowadzi do błędnych interpretacji danego zjawiska.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 27, 2021, 12:02:38 PM
Czy ktokolwiek może podrzucić jakiś dokument o "Peristaltic Tokamak"?


Z góry dziękuję,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2021, 12:26:24 PM
Można przyspieszać samym polem magnetycznym jak w betatronie. Jednak przyspieszanie takie pochłania więcej, dużo więcej energii niż energia przyspieszona.
Tylko proces wytracania/przemiany pierwiastka może dać "coś od siebie" z tym, że to wcale nie musi oznaczać dla nas zysku energii.
Jeśli podstawić dowolny pierwiastek pod dowolne urządzenie jak Hendershot, Kapanadze, Morey, Steven Mark, Colman, Sweetfloyd i podobne wyjdzie, że wszyscy oni robili to samo "może".
Jeden używał żelaza inny miedzi, a inny kobaltu lub ferrytu baru.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 01:27:24 PM
Nic takiego nie napisałem że się polem magnetycznym nie da przyspieszyć, oczywiście że się da tyle że polem magnetycznym zmiennym oraz cząstka musi być podatna na przyspieszenie, (pole magnetyczne stałe w betatronie, cyklotronie jest po to by zmusić cząstkę do poruszania się po okręgu).

A poza tym jest różnica między twórcami: Hendershot - baaardzo długi rezonans, Kapanadze - podbicie napięcia na rdzeniu, Moray - pierwiastek promieniotwórczy, Steven Mark - podbicie napięcia poprzez pojemność wzajemną i połowę indukcyjności wzajemnej, Colman - sztucznie indukowana promieniotwórczość, Sweetfloyd - podbicie napięcia poprzez sterowanie magnesem.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 02:27:43 PM
To dobrze że każdy uważa inaczej jak to działa, bo jak by wszyscy uważali tak samo to by nie było o czym gadać, ale to nie oznacza wcale źle czy dobrze.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2021, 02:49:13 PM
To oznacza, że po latach szukania rezonansu czas sobie uświadomić, że sam rezonans to za mało i same cewki to tylko silnik bez paliwa. Można nim kręcić i to robimy. Umiemy już robić 2,4 cylindry, mały, duży, w zasadzie dowolny tylko nadal nie mamy paliwa. To zdaje się dobre porównanie mi wyszło.
Marnowanie czasu na powielanie np. Akuli czy Ruslana zdaje się być tylko inspiracją i nauką elektroniki. Jeśli ich urządzenia działają to muszą mieć źródło zasilania/paliwa. Jest to albo przesył, albo baterie, albo coś co jest paliwem, a że paliwo może być różne to i trudniej zlokalizować jakie to. No i oczywiście "kabelek pod stołem".
Łatwo się gada wiedząc to teraz. Czas mija i 90% ludzi nadal nawija cewki  :'(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 03:54:58 PM
Bo teraz to straciłem wątek, ja jedynie wspomniałem o rezonansie przy "Hendershot" - jest o bardzo małej częstotliwości jakieś mikroherce, i jest gasnący.
A co do Akuli i Ruslana to nie budowałem (replikowałem) bo w sumie po co miałbym.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2021, 04:42:19 PM
Teraz to ja nie wiem: czy Ty coś robiłeś czy tylko teoria ? Hendershot mieszkał jak sam pisał w zasadzie na lotnisku i tam prowadził eksperymenty. Łatwo próbować zrozumieć teraz co odkrył, a w zasadzie co zrobił, że urządzenie działało? Moja teoria jest prosta: jest lotnisko jest radar. Radary wtedy jak i moce były dość duże więc z relacji świadków którzy obsługiwali radary z czasów nawet komuny w PL usłyszymy że w odległości kilku metrów można było na patelni smażyć jajka i tak robili nawet. Jednak wtedy mamy paliwo i zawsze to będzie paliwo bo takie rozumowanie jest 100% tylko poprawne, a szukam darmochy jak i inni pewnie. Myślę że w przyszłym roku takie fora będą bardziej oblegane jak energia pójdzie do góry.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 05:25:53 PM
Mógłbym cię zapytać o to samo, w czy coś zrobiłeś.
Ale po to mam szeroką wiedzę i praktyczne doświadczenie w wielu dziedzinach żeby jej używać a nie bezmyślnie replikować wszystko bo może kiedyś coś wyjdzie, i cud się stanie jak dowiem się jak to działa.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 27, 2021, 06:09:24 PM
Mógłbym cię zapytać o to samo, w czy coś zrobiłeś.
Ale po to mam szeroką wiedzę i praktyczne doświadczenie w wielu dziedzinach żeby jej używać a nie bezmyślnie replikować wszystko bo może kiedyś coś wyjdzie, i cud się stanie jak dowiem się jak to działa.

Owszem zrobiłem ale to pytanie na pytanie i bronisz się w ten sposób... i te "...bezmyślnie replikować". Słabe.
Nie odniosłeś się do Hendershota a to by było merytoryczne tu, a tak to zawalamy wątek.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 06:57:21 PM
Odniosłem się do Hendershota jak pisałem o rezonansie, i to było bardzo merytoryczne, chcesz szukać przyczyny w radarach twoja sprawa, co do bezmyślnego replikowania czy to było słabe czy mocne bez różnicy, dla mnie prawdziwe, możesz się nie zgadzać masz do tego prawo, po to jest prowadzona dyskusja na forum aby każdy mógł przedstawiać swoje racje, teorie, praktyki, nie wszyscy ze wszystkimi muszą się zgadzać.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 27, 2021, 08:11:45 PM
Układ symetryczny, jak widać na schemacie, dwa obwody pułapkowe LC nisko-częstotliwościowe (to te z dużymi elektrolitami), odpalasz cały obwód machając magnesem przy solenoidzie, to powoduje impuls rezonansowy który zgaśnie za kilka dni.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2021, 10:09:43 AM
Problem w tym, że to nadal spekulacje i domniemania. To co piszesz jest od kilku lat co najmniej na tym i innych forach ale ok. to co napędza ten rezonans ?
Znam jedno zjawisko rezonansu "wiecznego" więc wiem, że jest to możliwe i powtarzalne 100% Doświadczenie jest dość proste i sprowadza się do uchwycenia rezonansu bez źródła zasilania. Jednak ja nie potrzebuje impulsu aby go zobaczyć i nie są to fale elektromagnetyczne, a zwykły magnes który działa jak kamerton. Niby nic ale to samo mówił Steven Mark. "...Chodzi o te nic"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 28, 2021, 11:23:43 AM
To jak masz obwód LC z bardzo dużym kondensatorem to chyba wiadomo gdzie jest przechowywana energia, nawet jak zasilasz przez krótką chwilę, a poza tym analizowałem to kilkanaście lat temu, więc na forach wtedy nie wiele było. Podstawy obwodów elektrycznych, magnetycznych i ich symulacja, są tu potrzebne jak cholera, jest to podstawowa wiedza żeby czym kolwiek się zająć na poważnie oraz czytanie ze zrozumieniem.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 28, 2021, 11:42:47 AM
To jak masz obwód LC z bardzo dużym kondensatorem to chyba wiadomo gdzie jest przechowywana energia, nawet jak zasilasz przez krótką chwilę, a poza tym analizowałem to kilkanaście lat temu, więc na forach wtedy nie wiele było. Podstawy obwodów elektrycznych, magnetycznych i ich symulacja, są tu potrzebne jak cholera, jest to podstawowa wiedza żeby czym kolwiek się zająć na poważnie oraz czytanie ze zrozumieniem.

No tak symulacje... wiesz ile razy miałem FE w symulatorze! potem robiłem kilka prób i zgadnij co wychodziło.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 28, 2021, 01:44:30 PM
Ale symulacja to nie jest złoty środek (jak byle co zasymulujesz to byle co otrzymasz), musisz najpierw wiedzieć jak co zasymulować, czyli musisz znać podstawy, symulacja jedynie pomaga w weryfikacji twojej teoretycznej hipotezy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on October 28, 2021, 04:00:10 PM
W której symulacji jest uwzględnione zewnętrzne źródło energii ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 28, 2021, 05:14:55 PM
To tylko kwestia możliwości symulatora jakie komponenty do symulacji pozwala stworzyć.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on October 29, 2021, 11:19:51 AM
Found nothing about "Peristaltic Tokamak". :(
I see that discussion drifted away.
1.Primary surprise, that current could be induced in the conductor by lenz-less way , self supporting action of progressive magnetic field of travelling wave get lost in discussion. Looks like reversed principle of TWT. I am not sure about efficiency of that process.  But I am surprised that I hasn't been taken into consideration for use as power supply device.
2. My proposal to enhance that process indeed may give no advantages, thanks Wesley for your comments.


In every COP>1 candidate system  there must be identified a source of "extra", that is gained in the process.
In a thermodynamic heat pump it is heat of ambient air. By the properties of refrigerant it absorbs that heat when changing state from liquid to gas and repells it later after converted back to liquid by compressor. In such a process initial  electrical energy used by compressor and fan ( for example1kW) we receive 3-4kW of energy in the form of heat. COP>1 and we know why,  from where we took that "extra" energy. I also picture thermodynamic heat pump as "converter" of large amount of less useable energy ( ambient air- let's say 10 m3 at 5 deg C) to more useable energy ( air at let's say 1m3 of 40 deg C).


The same process we can utilise in electrodynamics.


I think that primary candidate for COP>1 system is again old good Tesla magnifier.
I picture it as electromagnetic pile driver. Correct me if I am wrong.
By resonant rise  of voltage on top terminal we are creating a huge "pump" for electrons from the ground. Huge potential difference atracts/repells more and more electrons from the ground. A very big "action" is going on, large current is alternating on the ground terminal, large voltage is oscillating on the top terminal. Tesla mentioned that the principle is to create very large reactive power oscillations, and convert part of this to active power.
By mechanical equivalent I see this as driven mechanical pendulum with a mass increasing a bit every push is made to pendulum. Oscillation period of such pendulum stays the same, but energy is increasing due to increased mass.
If we drive that system by some naturally occuring electromagnetic waves (PV, radio waves, man made or natural), we could made them useable by such action: accumulate low energy ,low V and I but high frequency waves to high V and I low frequency one and periodically discharge it to the load.
Similiar principle as typical heat pump, or mechanical resonant amplifier  (see attached).
Your opinions gentelmens?


Regards,
Pix





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on October 29, 2021, 03:20:56 PM
Bo to jest jakiś staroć z początków pierwszych projektów tokamaków ok. 1970r.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2021, 12:55:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO1w7S5iIN4
Generate electricity by punching wood #VeritasiumContest

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2021, 12:57:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3VHfxVnJA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY3VHfxVnJA)
How to measure 3 phase AC on an Oscilloscope
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2021, 12:58:58 AM
https://youtu.be/bl_wGRfbc3w?t=129 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl_wGRfbc3w)
Physicist Despairs over Vacuum Energy

this video  doesn't start from the beginning where you can hear the quote:
Quote
Vacuum energy is all around us.
so I suggest to watch it  form the beginning.
It is not easily consumable  but worth  your time.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2021, 01:15:36 PM
Found nothing about "Peristaltic Tokamak". :(
There is material  but you need to go to store  and pay for milk or  find a cow . It cost time  or time and money.
https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-peristaltic-Tokamak-Wort/ded1defaf8fe29a0c8f31376abd3de6cc443b9b1 (https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/The-peristaltic-Tokamak-Wort/ded1defaf8fe29a0c8f31376abd3de6cc443b9b1)
I understand phenomena the same way physics does. I can't  repeat here  everything that  is written already just because  you didn't find it.
Some articles require simple registration, but I can't  quote them here.

Quote
A system for the generation of toroidal current in a plasma which is prepared in a toroidal magnetic field.
The system utilizes the injection of low-frequency waves into the plasma by means of phased antenna arrays or phased waveguide arrays
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4423001A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4423001A/en)


COP>1
Incredibly beautiful  girl 17-18 years old. You would do everything  for her..
So her beauty is  your gain.. the free energy of emotion..coming to you
But that  only looks like is  for free...  you paying for  her education, entertainment, fun, maintenance, .. her luxury...
before she switch to the new guy...who can afford her now as her energy  needs grows.
 



COP>1 is not  a gain but a "phase" in energy conversion..where  sum of phenomena makes balance  of  gain and loss.
I didn't find anything exiting in it but you may become the new Tesla .. who knows?...

I wish you luck.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on November 03, 2021, 05:44:12 PM
stivep
Quote
COP>1 is not  a gain but a "phase" in energy conversion..where  sum of phenomena makes balance  of  gain and loss.

You understand this much better than most and there is only one kind of energy which relates to the motion of something on some level.

The conservation of energy is the conservation of motion and something cannot act on nothing or vice versa. Therefore energy can only be transferred or transformed but never created or destroyed.

For example, if we transform H2O, O2 falls and H2 rises by volume relative to the density of air. The phase of matter has changed which also changed the energy balance relative to the medium the elements are immersed in. Tesla proposed this kind of transformation machine in his lecture on the need for increasing human energy.

Regards
AC

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 03, 2021, 11:28:18 PM
Like I said there is possibility to convert static potential into kinetic energy. Tesla ttalked about it in many analogies, also in his article about increasing human energy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on November 04, 2021, 09:07:35 AM
Like I said there is possibility to convert static potential into kinetic energy. Tesla ttalked about it in many analogies, also in his article about increasing human energy.


Of course.
Charge capacitor and discharge it through spark gap to certain inductance, forming resonant tank. This is Tesla Magnifier primary LC circuit.
Potential converted to oscillations.
Oscillations are "for free". Tesla was praising oscillations.
Next- accumulate those oscillations in next inductance, forming second resonant tank. Tesla magnifier secondary coil. Helical slow wave oscillator. Now we have large activity, large reactive power.
Discharge that accumulated energy periodically to the load.
Old Master Tesla  :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 04, 2021, 01:06:45 PM
https://youtu.be/-KEwkWjADEA?t=147 (https://youtu.be/-KEwkWjADEA?t=147)
Video starts from minute 2:27.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 05, 2021, 08:56:24 PM
non ferrous magnetism? copper.
result "obtained" during testing  a kapanadze type device?
 “ magnetizing “ copper is something which is in the “lore” or past FE
Claims ?
Do you have opinion on possible explanation?( for copper.. Or ?

Some opinion expressed:

Unfortunate is that that the article in Popular Mechanics  is not scientific .Just a story for  average Joe Shmoe...
Quote
The copper itself is not magnetic, but when its approached by magnets, the electrons on the surface of the copper being rotating.
In an effort to resist the magnet's pull, the electrons briefly create their own magnetic field, which slows down the magnet's descent
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a15902858/copper-strong-magnets/ (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a15902858/copper-strong-magnets/)

The mechanics of this interaction are explained by Faraday's Law of Induction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faraday%27s_law_of_induction), and Lenz's Law (https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenz%27s_law),
If you have a strong enough magnetic field all matter is magnetic. 
But copper is so weakly magnetic that we can't observe it without very, very large magnetic fields. 
So the short answer is "No, copper isn't magnetic." 
This can quickly be tested by trying to pick up a penny with a magnet.
_____________________________________________


copper
Magnetism and electricity are closely related. 
When a magnet moves near copper (or other metals) it sets up electrical eddy currents.
The eddy currents will repel the magnet as it falls down the copper tube. 
This repulsion pushes against the magnet and slows it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WIKKXdxNH8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WIKKXdxNH8)

aluminum
Most matter will exhibit some magnetic attraction when under high enough magnetic fields. 
But under normal circumstances aluminum isn't visibly magnetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk4ACjzDFRY&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk4ACjzDFRY&t=1s)

lead
Even though lead is not magnetic it can interact slightly with  magnetic fields. 
By moving a very strong  magnet past a piece lead can actually cause the lead to move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIYXomRdLY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIYXomRdLY)

Nickel
Because Nickel (Ni) is ferromagnetic it is used in  making Alnico magnets
(consisting of aluminium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium), nickel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel), and cobalt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt)).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUvm4TFAWSQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUvm4TFAWSQ)

Silver
Silver isn’t  magnetic.
If silver isn’t magnetic, how do metal detectors find it?
 Metal detectors are able to find non-magnetic metals, like  gold or silver, using a principle called the Lenz effect.
Moving the metal detector over a gold coin  will set up a slight electric field in the coin.
The metal detector can sense this field and alert you to the coin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQk95NcNa_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQk95NcNa_s)

stainless steel
Since it contains iron, a magnetic metal, it would seem that stainless steel would be magnetic.
 However, when nickel (Ni) is added to stainless steel the result
is a non-magnetic form of stainless steel (called austenitic stainless steel).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9DaKP2PhL4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9DaKP2PhL4)

Titanium
Titanium-weakly magnetic..  also exhibits the  Lenz Effect but to a lesser extent that many other metals.
 For example, when a magnet  is passed over a metal like silver, copper, aluminum, or brass,
the moving  magnet causes small electrical eddy currents to form in the metal.
The electrical eddy currents have their own  magnetic field which interacts with the moving magnet. 
The result is that the moving magnet causes  the metal to move without touching it. 
With more sensitive equipment the Lenz Effect could be measured in titanium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1naZTyd361U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1naZTyd361U)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 05, 2021, 10:33:38 PM
Thank you very much for information Dear naserturk
 (https://overunity.com/profile/naserturk.104877/)EARTH ENERGIES, INC 
John Dinwiddie

Main link:
https://uspto.report/company/Earth-Energies-Inc?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=Hmu5ONeRP__Z5dD74dQPNYSh6ssiUy9LBxkh0E4QkME-1636147351-0-gaNycGzNBj0 (https://uspto.report/company/Earth-Energies-Inc?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=Hmu5ONeRP__Z5dD74dQPNYSh6ssiUy9LBxkh0E4QkME-1636147351-0-gaNycGzNBj0)


Patent Date
Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth (https://uspto.report/patent/grant/11,152,793)
Grant 11,152,793 -  Dinwiddie , et al. October 19, 2 2021-10-19 Power Receiver Including Faraday Cage for Extracting Power from Electric Field Energy in the Earth (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200295677)
App 20200295677 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.2020-09-17 Power Receiver For Extracting Power From Electric Field Energy in the Earth (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20190348842)
App 20190348842 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.2019-11-14 Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth (https://uspto.report/patent/grant/10,389,138)
Grant 10,389,138 -  Dinwiddie , et al. A 2019-08-20  Power Receiver For Extracting Power From Electric Field Energy In The Earth (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20170117714)
App 20170117714 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al. 2017-04-27 Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth (https://uspto.report/patent/grant/9,564,268)
Grant 9,564,268 -  Dinwiddie , et al. February 7, 2 2017-02-07 Power Receiver for Extracting Power from Electric Field Energy in the Earth (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20150102675)
App 20150102675 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al. 2015-04-16 Method and Apparatus for Extracting and Conveying Electrical Energy From the Earth's Ionosphere Cavity (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20150102676)
App 20150102676 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 05, 2021, 10:41:17 PM
Some  opinion expressed :


https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en)
Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth
I analyzed that patent  few years ago.
interesting is to  read it.

more comments  will come later

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on November 06, 2021, 09:20:29 AM
Hi everyone,
It's a been a long time since i posted anything in this forum.Distracted by Wuhan virus and purchased new home,being a landlord and many good etc.

Thanks to Wesley dedication into FE and many of his videos posted in youtube have allowed me to gain out of the box/world experience which is not your typical daily dose of medication. ;D
The 4 layers of primary winding on Kapanadze was reduced to 3 layers (Around 185uH) and increase capacitance(Maintain same L/C frequency as previous) after 3 turns both cases to resolve impedance issues and the trumpet waveform does have a sharper rising gradient as a result after phase shift tuning which consist of  SOT23-6 74HC2G14 after LM393.Nothing much to add.
All this inspired from Wesley video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY)


----------------------------------------------------------

But no amount of FE is going to solve the climate issue,oxygen depletion as the human and other supporting livestock  population grows.
Just do search "earth oxygen level" in google it will reveal 21% and we humans needs 19.5% oxygen level in air.So we are not very far away. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on November 06, 2021, 10:51:08 AM
Hi Wesley,
Thanks for providing links and info. :)
I didn't have a time today to carefully study patent, but from the first look it seems Tesla-like addjusted to Schumann resonance frequency.
Mechanism that I did described a few posts before.
Creating a lot of reactive power on secondary by resonant voltage rise of top terminal- this will "pump" electrons from ground connection, more and more.
An "open" circuit acummulating energy from enviroment.


Regards,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on November 06, 2021, 05:07:37 PM
Hi magpwr,
"Grenade" coil in Kapanadze, Akula and others- I thing the purpose is to slow down electromagnetic wave propagation. It is slow wave helical transmission line, coil wound in a curious way. This is to physically reduce the size of the coil  to acommodate wave of lower frequency.
Tesla secondary and "extra" coils are exactly slow wave structures, to accomodate quarter wave  in kHZ  area, to minimize radiation of electromagnetic energy. The aim is to efficiently accumulate energy from primary LC circuit, with minimal radiation into space.
Very interesting subject to explore. I still don't understand the way "grenade" coil works and why that way of coiling.


Kind Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 06, 2021, 06:40:48 PM
Hi magpwr,
"Grenade" coil in Kapanadze, Akula and others- I think the purpose is to slow down electromagnetic wave propagation.
It is slow wave helical transmission line, coil wound in a curious way.
This is to physically reduce the size of the coil  to accommodate wave of lower frequency.
Tesla secondary and "extra" coils are exactly slow wave structures, to accommodate quarter wave  in kHZ 
area, to minimize radiation of electromagnetic energy.
The aim is to efficiently accumulate energy from primary LC circuit, with minimal radiation into space.
Very interesting subject to explore. I still don't understand the way "grenade" coil works and why that way of coiling.
Kind Regards,
Pix

https://www.commutefaster.com/ATechnicalAnalysisofTeslasExtraCoilasaSlow-WaveHelicalResonator.pdf (https://www.commutefaster.com/ATechnicalAnalysisofTeslasExtraCoilasaSlow-WaveHelicalResonator.pdf)
A Technical Analysis of the Extra Coil as a 
Slow Wave Helical Resonator 

James F. Corum, Ph.D.
Department of Electrical Engineering
West Virginia University
P0 Box 6101
Morgantown, West Virginia 26505-6101

 
Kenneth L. Corum
CPG Communications, Inc.
158 Salem Street
Wilmington, Massachusetts 01887

They are the guys  responsible for Viziv  and Milford Texas Tesla Tower
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on November 06, 2021, 09:02:50 PM
Hi folks,
It  some thought experiment.
Imagine that at the same time from the same source  we feed step up signal to straight conductor and slow wave structure ( for example loaded transmission line).
If we connect osciloscope at the ends we should see an impulse, due to electromagnetic wave ( potential) propagation time difference.
Am I right?


Regards,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 12:01:55 AM
Imagine that at the same time from the same source  we feed step up signal to straight conductor and slow wave structure ( for example loaded transmission line).
If we connect oscilloscope at the ends we should see an impulse, due to electromagnetic wave ( potential) propagation time difference.
Am I right?

simplified but not always correct answer:
You will see the same  signal coming with delay as slow wave  comes later,
that may be seen as phase delay.

For easier understanding here is an example.

First path:
Think that  straight line from  New York to to Warsaw ( or from bottom of Tesla coil to its top) is =x in meters.
Second path:
you created  additional path.
It is a coil with diameter  1mm  wire 
winded tight on the tube of diameter 1 meter
and  long from  New York to to Warsaw ( or from bottom of Tesla coil to its top)
=x multiplied by n times of x  in meters.
conclusion:
-signal on that coil will travel many times longer till it reaches its destination.


But you may  also want :
-this coil to resonate....
-convert an input voltage pulse into radiation
-have impedance match to desired 50 Ohm.


____________________________________________________________________
and here will be difficult.
Green's function is the solution to the differential equation with a forcing term given by a point source.
point source  was explained here :
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560319/#msg560319
 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560319/#msg560319)green  function  is explained here :
https://brilliant.org/wiki/greens-functions-in-physics/ (https://brilliant.org/wiki/greens-functions-in-physics/)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green's_function (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green's_function)


I created there  accent on line source in my  (Dr. Corum) energy transfer we are interested  in  line source not point source  but we still need slow wave .
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560720/#msg560720so
 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560720/#msg560720so)

And now you are ready to read this article  that brings you closer toTravelling wave tube :https://www.egr.msu.edu/~pz/sws2012.pdf (https://www.egr.msu.edu/~pz/sws2012.pdfWesley)
Travelling wave tube was discussed here :    https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071)
however we don't need any longer traveling wave tube we can do it with semiconductors now.

Wesley

note: the article  from below applies to  slow wave in plasmas and is not directly related to our case.
article is given here just for the purpose of  bringing some understanding of slow wave. 
The common and important is 2D wave !!! marked  in the article with light green color.
the same 2D wave we use in my  energy transfer and energy extraction  from Schumann  waveguide in TM mode
TM mode - means Transverse Magnetic mode
explained here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560165/#msg560165

 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560165/#msg560165)
note: word Travelling wave tube is sometime wrote as Traveling wave tube with one L.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 01:26:31 AM
Some videos explaining traveling wave tube.
Please disregard  fact that it explains different tubes mostly in frequency region of very high frequencies.

This is an addition to the post  from above.
Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978)
Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier https://youtu.be/lL3LqFTW5ms?t=99 (https://youtu.be/lL3LqFTW5ms?t=99)Teardown of a Microwave Amplifier and a Traveling Wave Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGdQ0C7CYg
 (https://youtu.be/lL3LqFTW5ms?t=99)Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier Teardown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA)
Teardown of a LogiMetrics A300/S Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUGVfqy3Ic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUGVfqy3Ic)
LogiMetrics A300/S 2 - 4 GHz Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier - Repaired https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfxJitmqOEk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfxJitmqOEk)


here is modern reincarnation of Traveling wave tube form :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Fcf8TmnEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Fcf8TmnEQ)
it is good to understand  how it works but we  are using very low frequencies in our  study leading to  energy transfer and energy extraction.

Standing Waves: how are they different from travelling waves? | A Level Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFpDFDQn0E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFpDFDQn0E)




note: word Travelling wave tubeis sometime wrote as Traveling wave tube with one letter L.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 02:02:21 AM
another application for slowed down traveling wave:
the particle accelerator.
2.4 Linacs: traveling wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYHO3bQkPI
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYHO3bQkPI)well...well...       it is Russian translated into English.. 


I like  this one:
it is  great
(not Russian)
Linear Particle Accelerator (Principle, Construction, Working)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79838wtRZo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79838wtRZo)
The two links at the end of that video  will advance you to circular/spiral accelerator  Cyclotron and Synchrotron
A synchrotron is made of a torus shaped tube, whereas the cyclotron is made of a cylindrical or spherical chamber.
A cyclotron can fit in a room. A synchrotron is often the size of a football field

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5zhpLfnqGc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5zhpLfnqGc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9bijrQfS6E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9bijrQfS6E)

https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-cyclotron-and-vs-synchrotron/ (https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-cyclotron-and-vs-synchrotron/)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 02:24:20 PM
https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200295677 (https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200295677)
power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth

The power receiver 10 converts energy in the ELF/ULF waves to useful form, e.g. 60 Hz AC or DC.
The power receiver 10 is essentially a resonance circuit that resonates at the natural resonance frequencies in the earth's electric field.
These resonance frequencies, known as Schumann resonance frequencies, occur at 7.83 Hz, 14.3 Hz, 20.8 Hz, 27.3 Hz, and 33.8 Hz.
A high voltage impulse initiates resonance within the power receiver 10. In the resonant mode, the impedance of the power receiver 10
is reduced to near zero thus inducing ground currents to flow into the power receiver 10 where the ground currents are converted to useful form.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on November 07, 2021, 03:51:12 PM
Hi Wesley,
I don't see in Earth Energies Inc. patents how they propose to make resonant transformer in range 0.1-200Hz.
They state to make it resonant in fundamental Schumann resonances 7.83Hz,  14.3 Hz ect. but it might be physically very large.
Big Tesla coils operate in kHZ ranges, and secondaries are at least  few feet tall.
So, the challenge is to construct a coil resonating in very low frequencies. To do it, we need to use "slow wave structure", we need to slow propagation of electromagnetic wave like Tesla secondary or maybe in other, more clever way.
Kapanadze, Akula "grenade" coils might be some sort of solution to slow wave propagation. I don't understand the way they are coiled and a reason behind this shape of "grenade".
Principle of operation of Tesla-like systems, like above mentioned patents from Earth Energies Inc.  is clear, the point is to find a way how we construct resonant winding for frequencies close to Schumann resonances, and have reasonable sizes.


Regards,
Pix





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 04:33:42 PM
Hi Wesley,
Big Tesla coils operate in kHZ ranges, and secondaries are at least  few feet tall.
So, the challenge is to construct a coil resonating in very low frequencies.

Quote
An electrically small, efficient electromagnetic structure, that may be used as an antenna or waveguide probe,
having an electromagnetically closed, velocity-inhibiting conducting path, for supporting a standing, inhibited-velocity
wave in response to the flow of an electrical current through the path and a process for establishing the standing wave.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en)
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9d/2b/2a/fa977b9aae1691/US4751515.pdf (https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9d/2b/2a/fa977b9aae1691/US4751515.pdf)
first  step is to understand .. not the patent but mechanism of making  coil small at VLF.
 
 and  only than  you can  think about  slow wave.
Tariel didn't understand anything..  but .. how many people wins in lotto?
Wesley

PS: Dr Corum  from Viziv application year 1986
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 06:41:30 PM
Utilizing the Dr James Corum  understanding of phenomena in  question:

Quote
Such coil that normally at Schumann resonance frequencies would be physically large,
it would still be electrically small and therefore realizable, as well as efficient.
Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency
(below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data),
-signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 07, 2021, 06:50:24 PM
in practice we are not expecting to build LC circuit  resonating in Schumann frequency resonance in our  VLF coil.
We would like to.. but  we can't..
..that is why Dr Corum  works at 18kHz or any  lower possible frequency representing  harmonic of Schumman F.
 the fancy Tariel Kapanadze coil was set of winds  CW and CCW
 making coil electrically  suitable but physically small.
well..  we may have question that this coil  was not vertically polarized.
that is yet another  story to talk about it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on November 08, 2021, 01:54:51 PM
Hi magpwr,
"Grenade" coil in Kapanadze, Akula and others- I thing the purpose is to slow down electromagnetic wave propagation. It is slow wave helical transmission line, coil wound in a curious way. This is to physically reduce the size of the coil  to acommodate wave of lower frequency.
Tesla secondary and "extra" coils are exactly slow wave structures, to accomodate quarter wave  in kHZ  area, to minimize radiation of electromagnetic energy. The aim is to efficiently accumulate energy from primary LC circuit, with minimal radiation into space.
Very interesting subject to explore. I still don't understand the way "grenade" coil works and why that way of coiling.


Kind Regards,
Pix
hi pix,
I am not sure how to to answer any of your queries.But all this while i was dabbling with harmonics 3,6,9.
I am not even sure if  i am correct to say this if we see a rising amplitude waveform can we safety say  "Q" Quality  factor is more than 1".So what does Q factor more than 1 represent if we did involve the "strange winding" in in this scenario.
Loss or no loss,less obvious loss.Or should we even involve Q factor in this case under HV 3rd harmonics manipulation with resistive load(Mains Bulb) and observed no further increase of input current even with short circuit test across bulb?
1000watt halogen bulb load would be next once i have the time.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 10, 2021, 02:26:06 AM
Understanding Q:
-quality factor,


The Q factor determines the qualitative  behavior of simple damped oscillators
When (Q < 1⁄2) is said to be overdamped. Such a system doesn't oscillate at all

Quote
The condition of Q = 1,
when the power being released by the fusion reactions is equal to the required heating power
,
is referred to as breakeven, or in some sources, scientific breakeven.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_factor)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_energy_gain_factor#:~:text=The%20condition%20of%20Q%20%3D%201%2C%20when%20the,be%20captured%20within%20the%20fuel%2C%20leading%20to%20self-heating.)https://eepower.com/capacitor-guide/fundamentals/q-factor/ (https://eepower.com/capacitor-guide/fundamentals/q-factor/)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 10, 2021, 10:32:44 PM
Some News:
History of evolution of cars
First we were driving:
a. combustion engine cars
b. hybrid electric combustion engine cars.
c. electric cars
d. combustion engine fueled by natural gas cars
e. combustion engine fueled by  hydrogen cars

f.
Molecular Sieve for Hydrogen converting its energy to  electric .. cars.
   
and that looks like future of the cars. 1170km from 5kg of Hydrogen.


1. Today the owner of amazon started his series of electric carsstack is  set for $69.
Earlier this year, Amazon invested $700 million in Michigan’s electric car startup Rivian,
but now the company has built on that with an order for 100,000 vans to hit the roads by 2024,
https://time.com/6116280/rivian-ipo/ (https://time.com/6116280/rivian-ipo/)
https://jalopnik.com/amazon-orders-100-000-vans-from-electric-startup-rivian-1838250731 (https://jalopnik.com/amazon-orders-100-000-vans-from-electric-startup-rivian-1838250731)

the future :

2. Hydrogen cars .Toyota Mriai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIj2XTSBuQ
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIj2XTSBuQ)some of opposite view point I disagree with.
But what can you expect  from making money  YouTube'r
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b88v-WvqzeQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b88v-WvqzeQ)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MsG9REFN3s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MsG9REFN3s)
https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/fuel_cell.html (https://afdc.energy.gov/vehicles/fuel_cell.html)
-north-american-hydrogen-fuel-cell-electric-hybrid-truck/#: (https://hydrogen-central.com/capacity-trucks-north-american-hydrogen-fuel-cell-electric-hybrid-truck/#:~:text=This%20hydrogen%20fuel%20cell%20hybrid%20electric%20terminal%20truck,first%20battery%20electric%20vehicle%20over%2010%20years%20ago.)
1kg of hydrogen= 1 gallon of gasoline
but it gives 1370km from 5kg of Hydrogen.


3. something to dream about:
Mercedes AVTR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChqM3zqTREQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChqM3zqTREQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgUjyWe1Yc

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgUjyWe1Yc)
no brakes
no gas pedal
no steering wheel
no mirrors
but Tesla did the same too.
https://hypebae.com/2021/9/tesla-electric-autonomous-car-no-steering-wheel-pedals-self-driving-vehicle-elon-musk-2023-rumor-price-info (https://hypebae.com/2021/9/tesla-electric-autonomous-car-no-steering-wheel-pedals-self-driving-vehicle-elon-musk-2023-rumor-price-info)

second picture  shows  Tesla SUV
https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/tesla-electric-pickup/
 (https://www.thisiswhyimbroke.com/tesla-electric-pickup/)https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/tesla-pickup-truck-model-p/ (https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/tesla-pickup-truck-model-p/)




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 11, 2021, 11:19:12 AM
Ani wytwarzanie wodoru, ani zbudowanie ogniwa paliwowego z całą elektroniką nie jest problemem, tylko największym problemem przechowywanie wodoru,
z uwagi że wodór ma najmniejszą cząsteczkę z pośród wszystkich gazów to nie może być przechowywany w zwykłym zbiorniku, czyli musi posiadać tzw. "gąbkę wodorową"
aby można było pod dużym ciśnieniem utrzymać wodór w zbiorniku, jak również cała instalacja transportu wodoru do zbiornika musi być odpowiednio wykonana.

Wszystkie te technologie które mogły by być lepsze od ropy naftowej są negowane przez media które są opłacane przez magnatów ropy naftowej.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on November 11, 2021, 04:38:31 PM
Reply #3488 :
Hydrogen fuel cell distance world-record :
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/shell-eco-marathon-team-from-stralsund-wins-with-hydrogen-propulsion-and-reach-record/ (https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/shell-eco-marathon-team-from-stralsund-wins-with-hydrogen-propulsion-and-reach-record/)
2735 Km/lt. aequivalent hydrogen
https://www-adac-de.translate.goog/rund-ums-fahrzeug/autokatalog/marken-modelle/mercedes-benz/mercedes-glc-fuel-cell/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=nui (https://www-adac-de.translate.goog/rund-ums-fahrzeug/autokatalog/marken-modelle/mercedes-benz/mercedes-glc-fuel-cell/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=nui)
for city-car (metropoles 30  Km/h speed max. )experimental comparison :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_F-Cell_Roadster) 350 Kg 1,2 KW/ ? Volt electric drive ,-25 Km/h max
versus
http://www.evalbum.com/314 (http://www.evalbum.com/314)       
100 Kg  1,5 KW/12 V electric drive ,  - 40 Km/h max.
with 1,5 KW/220 V                        ?   Km/h max. ?
Citroen Ami/ Opel Rocks level ?   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1AE955w4Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R1AE955w4Q)    - 45 Km/h max.
Hydrogen selling price/ hydrogen ultra-low production costs :  https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html (https://judbarovski.livejournal.com/117497.html)
Kyoto/Paris conference results :
-80% GH-gas decrease and max 1,5°C GH-temperature increase
ambiental =Green House temperature global : +- 15,5° C average
each drive process with over ambiental " 15,5°C average + 1,5°C or K "  increase is Paris-negative !
Hydrogen,ammonia,bio-fuels.synfuels,fossil fuels use : all the same global temperature increase effect, locally (heat bell) and globally !
" - the cost of hydrogen is  5.65 x  $16.54= $31.9 "  ,   
a very "specific" ::)  arithmetical result !
Mostly a common calculator ,well calibrated,gives :
5.65 x $16.54 = $93.45
Sincere
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 11, 2021, 04:40:33 PM
Hydrogen is best stored as water.   And cheaper.  We have H2Opower on the forum who owns Steven Meyer's technology.  And I tried everything, but I can't. But he doesn't speak.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on November 11, 2021, 04:47:32 PM
Hydrogen !!?
 We had very smart fellow at forum share a method for hydrogen heating.
 The claim is MUCH more heat recovered through recombination and interactions with precious
 Metals (found in automotive catalytic converters ) mixed with sand plus utilization of diesel fuel
 Additive  ( blue DEF anti sulfur additive used in trucks for emissions  (has high Nitrogen content
 4times as many “H” ?
 I would like to try this here ?
 Others have claimed 10 times more heat than energy used to electrolyze?
Respectfully
 Chet


Edit for comment below
Yes I will lookup info posted at this forum tonight
And will add here to this post, and also invite ACCA to discussion!
 For clarity , it is my intention to replicate this here ( however I want best possible results
So will seek guidance from  ACCA for finer details .
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 11, 2021, 05:11:47 PM
 Yes please ask this  gentleman to  join the conversation
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 11, 2021, 06:39:27 PM
Nie "molecular sieve" tylko "fuel cell" - ogniwo paliwowe.

Co do Toyoty Mirai to posiada zbiorniki wysokociśnieniowe (700 bar), i ogniwo paliwowe.
https://www.toyota-europe.com/download/cms/euen/Toyota%20Mirai%20FCV_Posters_LR_tcm-11-564265.pdf .
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on November 11, 2021, 07:23:25 PM
Obecna cena gazu do samochodu za 1/km to ok 0,36gr przeliczając na H2 za kilometr to ok. 0,40gr.
To są realia na obecną chwilę. Koszt instalacji gazu powiedzmy 4.000 pln i tankujesz wszędzie. Gdzie tu sens dla H2 gdzie cena nowego auta Toyoty to 300.000 pln a to pewnie porównywalne
do auta za 150.000 pln + 4.000 gaz !
H2 nadal trzeba produkować, transportować itp.

Zabawki dla bogatych jak na razie. Akumulatory co roku mają coraz lepsze właściwości, a jeśli uświadomimy sobie, że jedna z pierwszych stacji w kosmosie posiadała już wtedy baterie li-ion to co teraz mają do dyspozycji ? Z czego zasilany jest laser 300kW który do pracy potrzebuje więcej niż moc lasera ?

https://www.ga.com/ga-ems-and-boeing-team-to-develop-300kw-class-helws-prototype-for-us-army
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 12, 2021, 02:01:51 AM
Nie "molecular sieve" tylko "fuel cell" - ogniwo paliwowe.
translation:
Not the molecular sieve but  fuel cell.
I disagree with you.Time is running forward. Think in category of year 2022.
mylisz sie.
Quote
The material made from manganese hydride would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks
which store the hydrogen and function alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen-powered system.
molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/
 (https://eepower.com/news/molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/#:~:text=The%20material%20made%20from%20manganese%20hydride%20would%20be,function%20alongside%20fuel%20cells%20in%20a%20hydrogen-powered%20system.)https://eepower.com/news/molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/ (https://eepower.com/news/molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/)

Quote
The new material would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks – which store the hydrogen and work
alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen powered ‘system’. The material, called KMH-1 (Kubas Manganese Hydride-1),
would enable the design of tanks that are far smaller, cheaper,
more convenient and energy dense than existing hydrogen fuel technologies,
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/researchers-discover-new-material-that-could-unlock-the-potential-for-hydrogen-powered-vehicle-revolution/

 (https://www.bing.com/aclk?ld=e87WFUkCLs-jWxz1WmTr97pDVUCUwzg6JzoqIcJsk79Zf6m4fBLseq4IaUJMEYW01554kcB5kixXPTt9CakTpekSvgGQC-o_RLruS-NZLpW-iyMpp9M2S8Fq4gdWwi4u0lqMM7gq2xt0kqKdDcSBfHIgz6q2uWR2KjePa98S2vHHQwPPkY_XkANT1ILT4Oh_5E6iQu3A&u=aHR0cHMlM2ElMmYlMmZoeWRyb2dlbjRoZWFsdGguY29tJTJmaDItbmFuby1oeWRyb2dlbi13YXRlci1ib3R0bGUlMmYlM2ZyZWYlM2R0aGY&rlid=570c57944eb41e37c3873619f5a6ad05&ntb=1)for comparison I'm giving you everything about fuel cell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2hV38PQSA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2hV38PQSA)

How to make a hydrogen fuel cell power generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5UO2BYAaY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5UO2BYAaY)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9U5rySRks (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9U5rySRks) Russian but  is in English .

first in the world   Zero emission  guitar .
https://youtu.be/4V5UO2BYAaY?t=936 (https://youtu.be/4V5UO2BYAaY?t=936)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 12, 2021, 09:28:59 AM
Napisałeś wcześniej:
"f. Molecular Sieve for Hydrogen converting its energy to  electric .. cars.
   and that looks like future of the cars. 1170km from 5kg of Hydrogen."

a artykuł dotyczy czego innego, czyli "Molecular Sieve" nie konwertuje energii, tylko przechowuje wodór w zbiorniku tzn. jak wcześniej pisałem o zbiornikach posiadających tzw. "gąbkę wodorową" - wielowarstwowe powłoki strukturalne wodorków metali (metal hydrides).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 12, 2021, 01:34:59 PM
Mniej więcej wiem o co chodzi, a mianowicie o materiał najczęściej z pvdf połączony z wielowarstwową gąbką wodorową NiTi+MgNiHx, którą można przechowywać w temp. pokojowej oraz ciśnieniu atmosferycznym
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on November 12, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
the Mirai shows us good performance !
When we divide a conventional compact class car its 6 lt. gasoline consume per 100 Km range we get 60 000 Wh/100 Km = 600 Wh/Km


https://www.tesla.com/customer-stories/world-record-father-son-drive (https://www.tesla.com/customer-stories/world-record-father-son-drive)
85 000 Wh battery capacity/681,6 Km = +- 125 Wh/Km ( by average -25 mph velocity ! )


Mirais 5.65 Kg hydrogen x 33.33 KWh/Kg (700 bar ! compressed)   https://www.idealhy.eu/index.php?page=lh2_outline (https://www.idealhy.eu/index.php?page=lh2_outline)

/ 1360 Km range = 139 Wh/Km ,without given average teste drive velocity !


From Poland/Canada we know a possible lower cost alternative by same/similar Mirai Fuelcell performance  :
http://www.rexresearch.com/holubowicz/holubowicz.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/holubowicz/holubowicz.htm)
I've found one way to utilize that heat, and so propose a high efficiency engine that converts this engine heat into extra work. The conversion quadruples efficiency -- thus fuel consumption and GHG emission are cut by 80%. In addition the NOx emission is eliminated.

the above conventional compact class car 600 Wh/Km cutting by 80 % = 120 Wh/Km !

the compact class car to hybrid conversion :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#)
from 6 lt/100 Km to hybrid 3 lt./100 Km conversion

and by gun engine this cutted 80% = 0,6 Lt/100 Km or 60 Wh/Km !?
and this 60 Wh/Km by " gun engine ..... plus water 8:1 fuel mix  "
= 52,5 Wh water and 7,5 Wh fuel consume per Kilometer ?!  water as hydrogen storage and deliverer
Is the hybrid engine coupled generator not improveable in its efficiency ?  8) Kumar,Tudor-Frunzi,Kango Iida,Akio Hara,P. Arestov double coil winding,Yurth generator coil coating  ,  ......
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 12, 2021, 01:54:56 PM
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 13, 2021, 06:02:21 PM
Inventor filed   patent application and  order of secrecy was imposed  for ~ 10 years.
 The technology was too good.. 
 You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
 Inventor  wasn't allowed to talk about it , write about it , show it   ..... it was  forbidden to the public..
 But he had  priority rights to the  patent  if...  if..... if.....

And now many years later  you can  hear about it:
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4


 I read some of the opinions expressed  under the  video :      Gustav Derkits 2 days ago   
Quote
This presentation is so full of basic errors that it made me angry enough to unsubscribe.
Absorption (as is Pd:H) is distinct from hydride formation (as in TiH2).
Quote
Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Any material that contains sufficient
Quote
Hydrogen to function as an energy source by easily releasing H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
In this system hydrogen is stored in a very thin layer on the surface of a disk inside a machine.
Quote
You never discussed how much the system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored and never derived the volumetric or density
energy efficiency. You said the machine extracts hydrogen “from air”, an oxidizing medium, with close to zero free H2, then changed
to “ smokestacks”, a reducing medium, which still has very low H2 content, without thinking through whether either of these scenarios
are reasonable in a commercial setting. I’ve only touched a few of the many bloopers.
 Send this presentation to a real chemist, if you know any, and ask for an honest critique.
The background story of this system is sketchy, with its “DOD stopped us” scenario.
The chemistry and physics are very funny. The manufacturing analysis indicates a high degree of complexity.
The engineering functional analysis shows a large amount of semi-functional dead weight, including the mass of the disk and container.
Your presentation naively accepts a lot of claims at face value. It is not an analysis.


My opinion:

I have problem with
Quote
Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Gustav Derkits in his critique didn't mention that Ions are always positive or negative.
Here is supporting link and quote:
Quote
Ions result from atoms or molecules that have gained or lost one or more valence electrons, giving
them a positive or negative charge.
Those with a negative charge are called anions and those with a positive charge are called cations.
It has more protons than electrons, resulting in the positive charge.
why-does-an-anion-have-a-negative-charge (https://mindrightdetroit.com/faq/readers-ask-why-does-an-anion-have-a-negative-charge.html#:~:text=Ions%20result%20from%20atoms%20or%20molecules%20that%20have,protons%20than%20electrons%2C%20resulting%20in%20the%20positive%20charge.)

Solid hydrogen by wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_hydrogen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_hydrogen) differs  in description from  that  explained in the video
that is talking about  Molecular solid hydrogen - in very clever  form of "sponge."
Quote
H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
Yes it will but it is up to inventor to  deal with it and investor to take risk.
Quote
You never discussed // system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored // volumetric or density//
energy efficiency.
I agree but blogger sales its content for money from YouTube and is unlikely  able to address this question.
Here is supporting link and quote:
Quote
well-known hydrogen sulfide removal process is based on the reaction of hydrogen sulfide with iron oxide
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-sponge-process
https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20150117768A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20150117768A/en)
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10847809 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/10847809)
Explanation provided by  Video blogger in form of article is here:
https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/forget-solid-state-batteries-solid-hydrogen-explained (https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/forget-solid-state-batteries-solid-hydrogen-explained)

Here is site of Plasma Kinetics the patent holder .
https://plasmakinetics.com/
 (https://plasmakinetics.com/#:~:text=Plasma%20Kinetics%20hydrogen%20storage%20is%20a%20reversible%20solid-state,photosynthesis.%20The%20central%20atom%20of%20chlorphyll%20is%20magnesium.)they make :
light-activated hydrides. plasma-kinetics-light-activated-hydrides.
 (https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2021/04/plasma-kinetics-light-activated-hydrides.html#:~:text=Plasma%20Kinetics%20patent%20portfolio%20includes%20five%20U.S.%20patents,the%20U.S.%20Department%20of%20Energy%20in%20July%202009.)that  was/is? partially restricted By DoD, DoE.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31950606/ (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31950606/)

Statement of video creator:
Plasma Kinetics boasts its technology to be 17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries for the same amount of energy stored.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 13, 2021, 07:19:12 PM
Podstawy chemii się kłaniają, czyli nie tylko występują wiązania jonowe ale też inne, najczęściej polarne np.: dwa atomy nie jonowe mogą być połączone wiązaniem polarnym.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 13, 2021, 08:55:52 PM
Jeśli chodzi o samochody na wodę to wg mnie jest tu dużo nieporozumień wokół metody. Uważam że wykorzystywana jest tu energia z zewnątrz (ambient energy) do rozłożenia wody na wodór i tlen ewentualnie  na natychmiastową konwersję wody w gaz tzw HHO (izomer H20 o stanie gazowym, nietrwały i wybuchowy ) - jako że gaz ma dużo większą objętość to tłumaczyłoby dużą efektywność takiego paliwa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0kjilQd1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Fc8q5TMas
Jak widać mamy technologię aby ocalić świat od zmian klimatu ale z niej nie korzystamy :-(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 14, 2021, 01:29:00 AM
Dziekuje za komentarze.
Here is much better explanation  of how Hydrogen on tape like in old tape recorder works.

This Breakthrough Could Lead to the Rise of Hydrogen Fuel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe4GulRuYU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe4GulRuYU)
17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries

You going to love this video.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on November 14, 2021, 02:34:28 AM
Plasma Kinetics hydrogen discs
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/plasma-kinetics-may-revolutionize-hydrogen-storage-for-evs-167256.html (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/plasma-kinetics-may-revolutionize-hydrogen-storage-for-evs-167256.html)
Smith told Guberman that both the disc and the film can be reused up to 150 times and are 100% recyclable.

versus

2002 priority date !

https://www.fmlink.com/articles/new-energy-company-to-offer-mail-order-hydrogen-fuel/ (https://www.fmlink.com/articles/new-energy-company-to-offer-mail-order-hydrogen-fuel/)

https://eepower.com/news/fuelsell-to-deliver-hydrogen-direct-solution-by-mail/# (https://eepower.com/news/fuelsell-to-deliver-hydrogen-direct-solution-by-mail/#)
https://patents.justia.com/patent/7399325
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7169489B2/en
https://patents.google.com/patent/US7011768B2/en

compared now > 500 Wh-1000 Wh/Kg battery capacity :
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2021/08/20210824-sion.html
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/650_whkg_1400_whl_recharg_batt_new_era_elect_mobility_ymikhaylik_0.pdf

https://polyplus.com/product-pipeline/

https://www.v2charge.com/innolith-claims-1000-wh-kg-battery-breakthrough/

15 KWh/Kg battery capacity is a theoretical given number :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=6501093B1&KC=B1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021231&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP
probably ,cited documents,the Bolloré Group http://capacitorsciences.com/company/  will get similar high success !


Sincere
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 14, 2021, 09:37:37 AM
To nie jest żaden izomer HHO, po elektrolizie powstają gazy które bardzo szybko stają się 2-atomowe, przy katodzie H2, przy anodzie O2, a w japońskim samochodzie jest zwykły elektrolizer na akumulator, a do silnika doprowadzona jest mieszanka gazów H2,O2 do spalania.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on November 14, 2021, 06:41:25 PM
Zwykły elektrolizer nigdy nie pozwoli wyprodukować wystarczającej ilości H2 z wody używające akumulatora samochodowego aby umożliwić jego napęd bez użycia benzyny.
Izomer HHO jest odpowiedzią, wszystkie wodorki tlenowców za wyjątkiem wody są w stanie gazowym w temperaturze normalnej. Dlatego twierdzę że to może być rozwiązanie sposobu napędu samochodów spalinowych.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 14, 2021, 06:58:08 PM
Zwykły akumulator pozwoli wyprodukować, a poza tym to zwykły elektrolizer niema tam warunków do izomeryzacji czego kolwiek (to dobre izomer HHO dobrze nie nazwa quantum). H2O2 jest ciekły, no i wodorki tlenowców nie są izomerami.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 15, 2021, 12:45:31 PM
Why, when a hot and cold body (heater and refrigerator) is separated in space, the heat engine works. All cycles, from Carnot to Stirling.
And when they are spaced apart in time, it does not work? Cool down the body, after
for some time it heats up from the environment. Time is also called the fourth
measurement.   ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 17, 2021, 08:32:01 AM
https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/ (https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/)
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?
Why can't I do it?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 02:14:47 AM
Why, when a hot and cold body (heater and refrigerator) is separated in space, the heat engine works. All cycles, from Carnot to Stirling.
And when they are spaced apart in time, it does not work? Cool down the body, after
for some time it heats up from the environment. Time is also called the fourth
measurement.   ;)
According to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, heat will always flow spontaneously from hot to cold, and never the other way around.
A refrigerator causes heat to flow from cold to hot by inputting work, which cools the space inside the refrigerator.
that involves Time and controlled Space at the same  time.
Trying to separate it  is like separating  combustion engine from the fuel vapor in the process of igniting by the time of 1 spark.
Space is there but right  Time is not as at another  spark  the piston  is  in wrong position.
Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 03:15:05 AM
https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/ (https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/)
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?
Why can't I do it?



 technology BackDoor,
обычные микрофоны слышат хорошо
формируют частоту и фазу звуковых сигналов, которые воспроизводятся через ультразвуковые громкоговорители-спикеры.
«БэкДор» выдает на выходе два тона с частотами 40 кГц и 50 кГц.
усиливаются, , перемножаются – из-за фундаментальных нелинейностей в данной системе.
(f1 – f2) и (f1 + f2).
(f1 – f2) означает 10 килогерц,  лежит в рабочем диапазоне частот микрофона,
такой сигнал проходит без изменений через фильтр низких частот
как обычный «полезный» звук.
происходит порождение своеобразной низкочастотной «тени» в слышимом диапазоне.
в системе BackDoor имеется возможность и для передачи информации по этому каналу.
можно
иx модулировать
а затем демодулировать
с помощью неслышного ультразвука похищать информацию из изолированных систем, не имеющих сетевых средств коммуникаций


Ok. I went along  entire article.
It starts interesting,
After that drifts into parapsychology,  UFO,   Russian pride, and  all other  kind of nonsense.
The Technology Back Door can be characterized as utilization  of longitudinal sound wave in  the spectral range  from 20kHz Up and its nonlinearity
Human can  process  . ( 20Hz- 20kHz ) sound.
Possible applications is  ultrasound communication, automation, remote controll  and and  spying.
Authors proposed addition  and subtraction    of sub auditable sounds and  down converting  the difference into   auditable sounds.
All the rest of that Russian  text is  not important .. just B.S.
Ultrasonic transmitters and receivers are mechanical  devices.
and it is normal to them to  hear that what we cant  hear.
Good analog microphones works up to 100kHz.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 20, 2021, 08:34:36 AM
I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 12:55:07 PM
I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.
Dear   kolbacist.
For some reason you can't have 6 hands and 4 eyes. but some other living organisms  can.
and  bats operates and communicate at ultrasound frequencies.

Humans can hear from 20 Hz to 20 kHz.
Anything higher is called ultrasound or ultrasonic sound.
The reason that bats use ultrasound is because it has such a high frequency and it has a low diffraction or it bends less.
They use this sound to do a couple of things like to catch their prey and also just to get around.
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1998/JuanCancel.shtml#:~:text=Humans (https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1998/JuanCancel.shtml#:~:text=Humans%20can%20hear%20from%2020%20Hz%20to%2020,their%20prey%20and%20also%20just%20to%20get%20around.)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 02:33:31 PM
Quote
author=kolbacict link=topic=17735.msg561530#msg561530 date=1637134321]
https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/ (https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/)
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?
Why can't I do it?
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 04:35:45 PM
I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.
Of course  you can't hear it.
the difference between 20kHz and 21kHz is 1kHz but  frequency  of this 1kHz is still  in bandwidth your hearing  is not.
You may  down-convert it  to  any range between 20Hz to 20kHz or subtract in the mixer these two frequencies ,
this is how superheterodine works in radio
and than you'll hear it. But you can see this 1kHz at your
oscilloscope connected to your microphone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver

Hint:
1. think how particle in air( micro-plastic) can hear  and react with  a particular frequency of sound wave= longitudinal  mechanical  wave in resonance.
2. think how size , weight,  and  density of particle is differentiated  when exposed  to longitudinal  mechanical  wave in resonance.
- process it  in your brain and you are the winner.
-look in my previous  post what I meant by word winner.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on November 20, 2021, 05:14:05 PM
To jak masz dwa mikroskopy elektronowe to jednym możesz produkować układy scalone metodą litografii bez-maskowej (maskless lithography) a dokładniej "Electron-beam lithography".
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 20, 2021, 07:19:03 PM
 What(Who) is it ?
a drunkard lie under your table? :)
The second picture is already gone ...

Quote
Of course  you can't hear it.
the difference between 20kHz and 21kHz is 1kHz but  frequency  of this 1kHz is still  in bandwidth your hearing  is not.
And why are there no beats in the air in the room between these frequencies?
With a difference frequency of 1 kHz?
Why, in an electrical circuit, this happens when two electrical signals are mixed, but not in the case of acoustic waves?

Quote
To jak masz dwa mikroskopy elektronowe to jednym możesz produkować układy scalone metodą litografii bez-maskowej (maskless lithography) a dokładniej "Electron-beam lithography".
You can do both at once. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 10:22:04 PM
What(Who) is it ?
a drunkard lie under your table? :)
The second picture is already gone ...
humoristic: use of two words that when spoken sounds the same but    when written the are different.
difference-between-lay-and-lie https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-lay-and-lie/ (https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-lay-and-lie/)

I'm not sure what you are alluding to? :)
are you questioning that we have not  one but two LEO 435VP?
We have  two units of  LEO 435 VP and in addition to it  we actually have the third one too, but is not working at the moment. :)

__________________________________________________
One uses Liquid  nitrogen and the other is not.
the two pictures from the comment on the top that shows the same very microscope in the same very room.
One of the pictures shows slightly  separated main unit from its electronics and my jacket on the floor.
so I can lie down while checking connections. :)pictures: LEO 435 VP and  LEO 435 VE shows the same unit.
and nothing is gone.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561594/#msg561594 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561594/#msg561594)
_______________________
so where is the lie? :) lye ? :)

Below this comment  you have set of  two pictures of  my two different working units.
The  LEO 435VP  on the second picture  named  LEO 435 unit# 2 is in different room and it has  Liquid nitrogen dewar on it.

Scanning electron microscope (SEM)
Resolution: 4 nm
Computer controlled stage: 5-Axis
Specimen chamber.
EDXRF or EDS  Energy Dispersive X-ray  Spectroscopy.
Quote
Energy dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (EDS or EDX) is a chemical microanalysis technique used in conjunction with SEM.
The EDS technique detects X-rays emitted from the sample during bombardment by an electron beam to characterize the
elemental composition of the analyzed volume. Features or phases as small as 1 µm or less can be analyzed.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/energy-dispersive-x-ray-spectroscopy (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/energy-dispersive-x-ray-spectroscopy#:~:text=Energy%20dispersive%20X-ray%20spectroscopy%20%28EDS%20or%20EDX%29%20is,as%201%20%C2%B5m%20or%20less%20can%20be%20analyzed.)
some helpful videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpXFcf_La0&t=926s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOJGZJa3cZg&t=164s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOJGZJa3cZg&t=164s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXEP5yONA0&t=20s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXEP5yONA0&t=20s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu9Xzc1TgE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu9Xzc1TgE)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOPS2AAUwOU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOPS2AAUwOU)





I used it also to analyze ferrite composition from Russian  TV Rubin used in number of  FE experiments.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 20, 2021, 10:55:36 PM
And why are there no beats in the air in the room between these frequencies?
With a difference frequency of 1 kHz?
Why, in an electrical circuit, this happens when two electrical signals are mixed, but not in the case of acoustic waves?
You can do both at once. ;)
There will be none.Every microphone has different  frequency range and different sensitivity
The two longitudinal waves must have the same frequency and be opposite in face and equal in amplitude( magnitude) at that given point  you are at, to cancel
itself, but the effect will be valid only for  the particular point  the observer is at.
When you or your microphone  moves  left right you and your microphone will not hear cancellation .

If you have two different frequencies of longitudinal wave  you'll not  be able to  mix them together  unless you receive the tones and in form of electrical signal
 mix them in  mixer.
You can't base on  article in Russian  language  as it was written by an analphebet (illiterate.) person in physics.
The Russian made his own comments to  this  article:
 BackDoor: Making Microphones Hear Inaudible Sounds Nirupam Roy, Haitham Hassanieh, Romit Roy Choudhury University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
https://nsr.cse.buffalo.edu/mobisys_2017/papers/pdfs/mobisys17-paper01.pdf (https://nsr.cse.buffalo.edu/mobisys_2017/papers/pdfs/mobisys17-paper01.pdf)
and everything is explained in it:
I'm reading it now . If I  find anything wrong in it I'll definitely note it here.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 21, 2021, 02:04:12 AM
Quote
my notes to the article :
BackDoor: Making Microphones Hear Inaudible Sounds Nirupam Roy, Haitham Hassanieh, Romit Roy Choudhury University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
https://nsr.cse.buffalo.edu/mobisys_2017/papers/pdfs/mobisys17-paper01.pdf (https://nsr.cse.buffalo.edu/mobisys_2017/papers/pdfs/mobisys17-paper01.pdf)

-------------------------------------------------
Quote
The diaphragm of the microphone should exhibit some sensitivity
at the high-end frequencies (> 30kHz). If the diaphragm
does not vibrate at such frequencies, there is no opportunity for non-linear mixing of signals.
(3.1 Measurements and Validation page#4)
 [/font]
Quote
The second order coefficient A2 needs to be adequately high to achieve a
meaningful signal-to-noise ratio
(3.1 Measurements and Validation page#4)
A1 or A2..3..4 is a complex gain that can change the phase and/or
amplitude of the input frequencies,
(Linear and Non-linear Behavior page#4)
Note: You may need to connect microphone to your spectrum analyzer using separating capacitor for DC Power supply  elimination.
if you  put DC  to input of spectrum analyzer than your instrument  gets damaged.
---------------------------------------------
Note: 1st order, 2nd order,3rd order are the harmonics.
(Figure 5: (a)The intermodulation distortion of signal (b) Harmonic distortion. page 5)
Note:
Quote
Thus far, the shadow signal is a trivial tone carrying one-bit of information (presence of absence).
(4.1 Communication page 5)
Conclusion :So they are talking  about a "shadow" seen at digital output.-  not in physical XYZ space.
[/font]
Quote
our actual goal is to modulate the
high frequency signals at the speaker and demodulate the
shadow at the microphone to achieve meaningful data rates
(4.1 Communication page 5)

Quote
any modulation that generates waveforms
with non-constant envelopes [45] is likely to suffer this problem.
Note: AM modulation is not applicable due to severe problems.
(Failure of Amplitude Modulation (AM) page 5, look also at Figure 7  )
Ok I'm giving up for today - the rest of the article is easy to understand.
Wesley

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 21, 2021, 06:57:49 AM
I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.
Технические характеристики ВШВ-003-М2:

Частототный диапазон, Гц 2 – 18000 = 18kHz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Динамический диапазон, дБ 22 – 140
Частотные корректоры A, B, C, Lin
Временные характеристики Slow, Fast, 10c
Класс точности 1,0  class 1
Октавные фильтры со среднегеометрическими частотами, Гц 1 – 8000
Питание сетевое и автономноеМасса, кг 5,5.
______________________________________________________________

Few Questions:
How come you made measurement  with the device that goes max to 18kHz?
How did you fed  2 signals at the same time  with two
 two dynamic heads, type 6gdv. into instrument that has only  one  probe input?
http://www.tehno.com/product.phtml?uid=B00120039561 (http://www.tehno.com/product.phtml?uid=B00120039561)
objections and problems:
-20 kHz and
21 kHz is out of range of this instrument.



______________________________________________________________
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
again this device when belongs to group of  class 0 or class 1 has limit of frequency  maximum to 18kHz.
https://www.prostanki.com/board/item/73931
 (https://www.prostanki.com/board/item/73931)Технические характеристики ВШВ-003-М3:
Частототный диапазон, Гц 2 – 18000kHz
Динамический диапазон, дБ 22 – 140
Частотные корректоры A, B, C, Lin
Временные характеристики Slow, Fast, 10c
Класс точности 1,0
Октавные фильтры со среднегеометрическими частотами, Гц 1 – 8000
Питание сетевое и автономноеМасса, кг 5,5.


objections and problems:
-20 kHz and
21 kHz is out of range of this instrument.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 21, 2021, 08:25:14 AM
No, no lie, it was a joke. :D
I thought an alcoholic was resting under your table ...
I am a man with humor, without which it is unbearable to live in this country. ;D

Quote
Частототный диапазон, Гц 2 – 18000 = 18kHz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you are right. I studied the documentation poorly.
I have had it for ten years, and have not really studied it.
ok, we will continue to work. :)
True, I lowered the frequency to 16 kHz later(I don't hear that either), but the difference frequency beats were not apeared as well.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 21, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
Question to Wesley?
( can we do it ? Is it useful/scalable ?
https://overunity.com/18977/carat-trax-forever-battery/msg561622/#new (https://overunity.com/18977/carat-trax-forever-battery/msg561622/#new)
Chet K
Yes you can . Nothing new.
However  the heat coming  from central heating pipe  helps.
We know that in cold temperature  failure of some  forms of batteries is evident.
 
Quote
The Zinc and Copper Battery In a zinc-and-copper battery, the chemical reaction
involves the transfer of electrons from solid zinc to copper ions.
The zinc is therefore the anode; solid zinc is oxidized. The copper is the cathode; copper ions are reduced
.
https://education.seattlepi.com/happens-battery-zinc-sulfate-mixed-copper-sulfate-6031.html (https://education.seattlepi.com/happens-battery-zinc-sulfate-mixed-copper-sulfate-6031.html)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 23, 2021, 06:59:04 PM
I found a microphone from an ultrasonic TV remote control telefunken.
There is no marking. TV set in 1976. Data and connection diagram find are unrealistic.
But most likely the type is capacitor. And the maximum frequency should be quite high. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 23, 2021, 07:13:16 PM
Quote
https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-lay-and-lie/
well, good reference.thanks.
It seemed to me that was a drunken man lying under your table.
That's right?  :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 24, 2021, 03:47:30 PM
Known separators for non-magnetic materials using a magnetic fluid.
In them, the specific density of the liquid increases as a result of the action of an external magnetic field. The question is how much energy needs to be spent to create a magnetic field. And how much will we get from the increase in the potential energy of the floating up body? I still can't find answer in any books. maybe I was a bad seeker?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on November 24, 2021, 06:53:07 PM
Why is not a single bubble of hydrogen or oxygen emitted between the plates of the water condenser and other components in the water generator of Marx?
Sorry to be off-topic, but there is no one else to ask. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on November 26, 2021, 01:51:35 PM
https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/auto/Das-Brennstoffzellen-Motorrad-naht-article22954646.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=nui (https://www-n--tv-de.translate.goog/auto/Das-Brennstoffzellen-Motorrad-naht-article22954646.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=nui)
Segway does not reveal how far the e-bike can get in total, but according to the manufacturer, one gram of hydrogen should be enough for one kilometer for the Apex.1 Kg hydrogen ~ 33 KWh  ergo 33 Wh per Km
fuel-to-wheel conversion efficiency ?From ebike to city-etrike ,hibrid or full electric
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/288019338658790702/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/288019338658790702/)Happy weekendOCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 01, 2021, 06:59:56 PM
Quote
If you go to  newly freed from soviet terror  countries  you may see some people complaining
that businesses got private  and  nobody wants to  make some parts for you  on company lathe , milling machine  and soon.
I understood.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 02, 2021, 03:31:06 PM
I dlatego łatwiejszy start ma dowolny hobbysta z USA od innych, ja jak zaczynałem to miałem gówno a nie start, o "true rms" to ja se mogłem pomarzyć jedynie, a oscyloskop to se przerobiłem ze starego rubina.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 06, 2021, 01:18:22 PM
News:
12 days ago.
12   дней назад
3200W at output.
1,752,350  views  просмотры Nov 24, 2021
Mr. Elias  (Filipinos)
main two links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r51TdNPA55s&t=1s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r51TdNPA55s&t=1s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0wkOKJfCs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0wkOKJfCs)

but I suggest first start from  links below
Note: links below are from the two videos and they start from given video frame at given time  reflecting interesting information.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0wkOKJfCs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb0wkOKJfCs)
https://youtu.be/r51TdNPA55s?t=1701 (https://youtu.be/r51TdNPA55s?t=1701)
https://youtu.be/nb0wkOKJfCs?t=1320 (https://youtu.be/nb0wkOKJfCs?t=1320)


Note : the pictures are oversized  on purpose  for better detail view.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 06, 2021, 02:20:27 PM
This link shows the process :
 from  switching ON the device.
https://youtu.be/r51TdNPA55s?t=1411

 (https://youtu.be/r51TdNPA55s?t=1411)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 06, 2021, 03:10:11 PM
internal components of second unit:
https://youtu.be/nb0wkOKJfCs?t=1351 (https://youtu.be/nb0wkOKJfCs?t=1351)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 06, 2021, 04:03:36 PM
IMHO większość tego co jest na wierzchu to są śmiecie robiące za zaślepki, prawdziwe urządzenie jest niedostępne dla oczu.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 06, 2021, 04:16:17 PM
We have a member “Mark Dansie” ,
He is longtime investigator of FE claims , he lives in Philippines ( has a lab there now ?)
I asked him to take a look ( he does “in person” investigations globally )
   He acknowledged and said he will !


Looking forward to talking with him again , been too long !


Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
I will invite Mark to this board for comment
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: justawatt on December 06, 2021, 04:56:25 PM
There is news from Russian forum that kapanadze died due to covid.

Неделю назад В ковидной больнице скончался Тариэл Капанадзе — грузинский сумрачный гений изобретатель бестопливного одноименного генератора электроэнергии. Тариэла в самой Грузии называют грузинским Тесла. Свой генератор Тариэл назвал так: капаген, от собственной фамилии.
Кто знает подробности напишите пожалуйста
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 06, 2021, 11:30:08 PM
additional  pictures:
shows presence of  capacitor made by ABB
different colors shows important  information
 model :  CLMD-63
Please note that wires coming out of the green box
are  made from multiple wires for  caring on  big current.
The max voltage on capacitor bank is 3.1kW

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some links for your reference and study:
https://www.flipkart.com/kartex-md1803dfx-high-voltage-npn-power-transistor/p/itm56c63ee5ecaf2
https://documents.pub/document/lv-capacitor-bank-apc-abb-group-lv-capacitor-bank-apc-automatic-or-manual.html
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234316483116?hash=item368e59ca2c:g:NIAAAOSwYlJW3rfj
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NIAAAOSwYlJW3rfj/s-l1600.jpg
https://library.e.abb.com/public/a82cf1a0864b4237983109a7697acea5/2GCS304014B0070-CLMD%20brochure.pdf
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/I00AAOSwE95gAeBO/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153962439533?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qngAAOSwryRgAeBO/s-l1600.jpg
https://www.ebay.com/itm/153962439533?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
https://www.google.com/search?q=ABB+capacitor++BCP1&bih=988&biw=1209&client=avast-a-2&hl=en-US&tbm=shop&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjCucylh9D0AhUCrnIEHdtlAJUQ1TV6BAgBEFM


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 07, 2021, 12:43:28 AM
Voltage on the coil can't be bigger than  PN junction  of the transistor in "series."
 but there is something that is more interesting than that in next comment.
Note: it looks like second the rear row of transistors is there but is not connected.
Please look at first 4 transistors  in front and than at the  transistors at the rear..

 "series."- i didn't analyze it yet - if parallel   connection for  Hi current was used, but  Voltage  level  restriction on the  transistor  still apply   


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 07, 2021, 02:38:19 AM
Coil connections and  HV problem around computer  board
is unexplained to me
Another words:
You can't have HV "nest" - next to computer PCB
https://youtu.be/nb0wkOKJfCs?t=1372
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 07, 2021, 09:25:13 AM
Czyli jednak brak urządzenia FE, bo to wygląda jakby tylko ten kondensator był tylko podłączony, (wcześniej naładowali, a przed kamerą korzystają).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 07, 2021, 11:43:12 AM
The wire  from the top of the coil goes here.
The distance between : 
-wire from  top  section of transistors and
-wire  from  the top of big coil 
is  around 2".
The strength of  electrostatic field, or electromagnetic field 
is transferable by  induction  between them.
So this looks strange.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 07, 2021, 12:47:33 PM
To tak wygląda jakby przerywacz diody był zasilany między-fazowo z dużego kondensatora, tak wygląda że górny punkt podłączenia przy małej cewce (może nie być podłączony do do małej cewki) jest podłączony do emitera górnego tranzystora oraz do diody led. No i najważniejsze  jak by było wysokie napięcie na tych cewkach to by były przeskoki iskier przy takiej konstrukcji (dioda by tylko raz migneła a porządnie :) bo by była różnica napięć między zwojami cewek a przypadkowymi przewodnikami).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 07, 2021, 09:02:24 PM
Mam nadzieję, że demonstracja na miejscu, po których był świadek członka forum "Mark Dansie", odbędzie się wkrótce. Jest na Filipinach.


“Hopefully on-site demonstration …witnessed by forum member Mark Dansie
Will happen soon , he is in Philippines.”


Chet
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 08, 2021, 08:46:13 AM
In such a capacitor, many batteries can be hidden.  :)
And this connector reminded me of ... :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 08, 2021, 10:11:46 AM
I don't know who Mark Dansie is.
I have nothing against these Filipinos.
Let them succeed.
Just my thoughts ... :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Floor on December 08, 2021, 10:25:44 AM
I have nothing against them either,
but lets see if the device can be examined
or not.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: NickZ on December 08, 2021, 04:07:20 PM
   This is probably a dumb question, but, can that big huge box run anything other than a fan?
I think that Ruslan could probably place 10 or more of his self runners 4000w builds, in that same box.   
I wonder how much noise it makes? As it looks to be a mechanical contraption. Or, is that box is mostly empty?
Or full of batteries or caps. Hard to trust those people, as lying is the norm.

NickZ
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 08, 2021, 06:05:13 PM
Pełno fałszywych komponentów w środku ma pokazać laikom, że to poważne urządzenie, a przede wszystkim robić wrażenie na nich i robi.
To samo widzimy u Kapanadze. Niby ok ale po co to robić skoro można nic nie pokazać i też być wiarygodnym.
Magik pokazując królika uwiarygadnia się ale to nie znaczy, że on tam jest.
Już jeden niedawno z Afryki był ! i gdzie jest ?

https://twitter.com/musvanhiri/status/1309579836998942722
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 09, 2021, 10:29:44 AM
Co do Saith Power to parametry tych urządzeń są na obrazku https://twitter.com/saithgroup/status/1285894559784984577/photo/2 , tyle że moim zdaniem za szybko porzucił szkołę a możliwe że później przerabiali tabliczkę mnożenia, bo na początku się nie zgadza moc wejściowa z maksymalnym napięciem i prądem. Ale sądząc po parametrach we/wy to może być urządzenie typu: silnik dc, przekładnia, prądnica ac 3-fazowa, a reszta nazw to po prostu zaciemnienie.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 09, 2021, 03:21:47 PM
https://beruhmte-zitate.de/zitate/124321-karl-raimund-popper-der-versuch-den-himmel-auf-erden-einzurichten-er/ (https://beruhmte-zitate.de/zitate/124321-karl-raimund-popper-der-versuch-den-himmel-auf-erden-einzurichten-er/)
“The attempt to establish heaven on earth always creates hell.
This attempt leads to intolerance, to religious wars and to the salvation of souls by the Inquisition. ”
- Karl Raimund Popper, book The open society and its enemies

Source: https://beruhmte-zitate.de/zitate/124321-karl-raimund-popper-der-versuch-den-himmel-auf-erden-einzurichten-er/ (https://beruhmte-zitate.de/zitate/124321-karl-raimund-popper-der-versuch-den-himmel-auf-erden-einzurichten-er/)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_theory)

https://copyriot-com.translate.goog/sinistra/reading/agnado/minima.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de (https://copyriot-com.translate.goog/sinistra/reading/agnado/minima.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de)
 Reflection from a damaged "life/culture/world"
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 12, 2021, 05:45:02 PM
Help translate this page into English.  I can't do it.
My computer is old and the internet is bad. :'(
I wanted to show this to the adherents of breaking apart water molecules by electrostatics.
the nature of the true dissociation of water.  especially where it is framed by me ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 14, 2021, 07:54:51 AM
https://s.11klasov.net/index.php?do=download&id=9854 (https://s.11klasov.net/index.php?do=download&id=9854)
 :)
p.s. I wanted to point out a common misconception.
misconception about that a water molecule is broken by an electric field during electrolysis.
the rupture of the molecule makes the heat!
This is the only Soviet textbook that I found, where it says directly about it ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on December 14, 2021, 04:45:22 PM
Quick update on Wesley’s “Philippine device 3200 watts at output” investigation/analysis starting at post 3542 Dec 6. https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/3540/ (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/3540/)
Spoke a bit with MarK Dansie last night , he will make every effort ( within reason) to visit
And bring an engineer …to view a demonstration of this technology,
 And report back !


I did send link to above posted info gathered by Wesley from post 3542 and following posts.
*Should be noted that travel can still be affected by COVID restrictions!
Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 15, 2021, 02:31:10 AM
https://s.11klasov.net/index.php?do=download&id=9854 (https://s.11klasov.net/index.php?do=download&id=9854)
 :)
p.s. I wanted to point out a common misconception.
misconception about that a water molecule is broken by an electric field during electrolysis.
the rupture of the molecule makes the heat!
This is the only Soviet textbook that I found, where it says directly about it ...
Unfortunately I can't  help you with translation.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on December 15, 2021, 03:29:56 AM
HOT GLUE IS USED, I AM OUT OF HERE.
A TRUE SIGN OF SFAKE.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 15, 2021, 07:46:23 AM
I just wanted one page.
Where the nature of electrolytic dissociation is explaned.
The rest of the book is simply not needed.
To show to those who believe in breaking molecules apart by electrostatics.
You yourself asked ...
But I can upload it entirely in the format djvu.
I have it downloaded for a long time. It's just big, 18MB.
And I count every megabyte.
This is not America ... :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 15, 2021, 11:48:27 AM
Jeśli ci chodzi o elektryzowanie dielektryka(woda) za pomocą maszyny elektrostatycznej, to nic ci to nie da, bo aby nastąpiło przebicie dielektryka (elektroliza wody) musi połynąć prąd. Jedynym rozwiązaniem użycie generatora hv do elektrolizy wody dejonizowanej (bez aktywnych jonów), najlepiej można zastosować impulsy hv z rezonansu szeregowego lc gdzie c - komórka do elektrolizy, chyba był nawet taki patent na to autora: Stanley Meyer.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 15, 2021, 02:21:41 PM
Quote
najlepiej można zastosować impulsy hv z rezonansu szeregowego lc gdzie c - komórka do elektrolizy, chyba był nawet taki patent na to autora: Stanley Meyer.
I did all this, but nothing works for me.
the amount of gas is released strictly according to Faraday's law.
That is, according to the amount of electricity coulombs passed through the cell. :(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 15, 2021, 02:21:49 PM
some translation to the  sentence rounded by you  with  pen on the  picture.
Quote
-kT (also written as kBT) is the product of the Boltzmann constant, k or kBit is the amount of heat required to increase the thermodynamic entropy of a system by k.

Quote
Average  amount  of thermal   movement   of particles equals 3/4 kT
k   is constant.
1.38 x10 -15
So if we take temperature +20C  we get
E=1.5x1.38x10-15x293=6.1x10-14 erg.
 comparison  of this  result with that w hat was  shown  from above  shows  that both  of them are the values of one and the same row .( both of them are alike)
 Another words  energy  of thermal movement  is sufficient  to  in effect  achieve  (disintegration) -transition into ions the dissolved in water salt.


An erg is the amount of work done by a force of one dyne exerted for a distance of one centimetre.
In the CGS base units, it is equal to one gram centimetre-squared per second -squared (g⋅cm 2 /s 2). It is thus equal to 10 −7 joules or 100 nanojoules (nJ) in SI units.
When salts are dissolved in water, they separate into ions.
Salts are ionic compounds which, when dissolved in the liquid, break up completely into ions.
Here is  some material  helping to  answer the most basic questions:
 https://lisbdnet.com/what-happens-when-nacl-is-dissolved-in-water/ (https://lisbdnet.com/what-happens-when-nacl-is-dissolved-in-water/)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 15, 2021, 03:44:50 PM
 Here is an addition to  the subject of salt in water.
Water as fuel unlocked by frequency resonance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8xYUDiSGDk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8xYUDiSGDk)


 I'll add more  to it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 15, 2021, 05:15:48 PM
Quote
EXACTLY!!! I can shake my own warer apart.. just need to know the frequency and the cycles that is needed. It actually would be more efficient if the power used to transmit was stronger.. oh man this guy is gonna disappear.. hes opend up a new can of worms.. meyer with the metal plates and hes gone... The inventors of the thorium battery... yea he needs to prepare..
Quote
The man in the video John Kanzius died February 18, 2009 at the age of 64. Kanzius also admitted that this process could not be considered an energy source, as more energy is used to produce the RF signal than can be obtained from the burning gas. See Wikipedia on this.
this is from the comments under the video .. :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 17, 2021, 01:01:27 PM

The fiber-optic  isolation
. It can be used  in many applications and not only for Raspberry pi
https://youtu.be/jvxPtFJN5pk?t=113 (https://youtu.be/jvxPtFJN5pk?t=113)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 17, 2021, 02:41:03 PM
Ale że co, bo nie wiem, chodzi ci o izolacje sygnału po przez światłowód, taką izolację się od dawna
stosuje w przetwornicach między tranzystorowymi mostkami HV dużej mocy a głównym sterownikiem
którym najczęściej jest mikrokontroler lub układ FPGA, masz nawet tyrystory bezpośrednio sterowane światłem LTT (light triggered thyristor).
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 17, 2021, 05:47:40 PM
Yes it is exactly what I'm talking about
Tak dokladnie mi o to chodzi
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 17, 2021, 06:46:25 PM
  The purpose  of this post  is to focus your attention on the fact that
 making Tesla coil for VLF ( Very  Low Frequency) is not easy task due to  long wavelength of  the  wave  from  desired few kHz to  max 200kHz. at 1/4y   
but Ferrite core  helps a lot.
______________________________________________


Each video   of YouTuber: QRQcw has a his own text below  each video 
-and  I reprinted it for you
Video part #1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjHj2-MUjg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyjHj2-MUjg)
VLF RECEIVE ANTENNA - BIPOLAR TESLA COIL with massive Ferrite Core - resonated to 17.65 Khz(pt1)
Quote
1st test using a BIPLOAR TESLA COIL with a MASSIVE NiZn high perm Ferrite Core
- resonated to 17.65 Khz with .003 uF of capacitance...to be used as a VLF RECEIVE ANTENNA in this first test, a
CW SIGNAL at 17.65 Khz(at -50 db)  was coupled inductively into the VLF antenna on one end of the coil with 3 turns around the Ferrite Core...
to test the concepts of how well resonating the coil to 17.65 Khz would work, with the TESLA COIL windings, dimensions,
Ferrite material  et al ... to increase the sensitivity of an antenna type like this for VLF RECEPTION
at the other end, 2 turns were wrapped around the core and brought up to the USB SOUND CARD LINE INPUTs...
then the SAQrx VLF SDR app was used to demodulate the 17.650 Khz CW signal,
and that is what you are hearing on this video demo...the final result...etc.

SAQrx SDR APP:https://sites.google.com/site/sm6lkm/...
newer version of SAQrx VLF SDR https://sites.google.com/site/swljo30tb/ (https://sites.google.com/site/swljo30tb/)

OBSERVATIONS:


1.  resonating the BIPOLAR TESLA COIL to 17.65 Khz, with its current design and dimensions...
that particular VLF frequency produced the most VLF signal into the SOUND CARD LINE INPUTs....
even though the coil could be resonated at other frequencies, 17.65 Khz resonated with the .003 uF capacitance,
peaked the most output from the VLF ANTENNA ASSEMBLY than any other vlf frequency tried...

2.  the noise floor was much quieter than using a straight long wire, or typical AM LOOP ANTENNA
next test will use a separate transmitter from a distance away, to see how well this BIPLOAR TESLA COIL VLF FERRITE CORE ANTENNA
can pick up that signal which can be viewed
here - https://youtu.be/L37vrSkaWBc (https://youtu.be/L37vrSkaWBc) VLF
Transmitter & Receiver experiments playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list).

Wesley's Comment.:
 a. I'm not sure what the author is  trying to say. did he have in mind bifilar not bipolar winding?
 b. some  additional material about bipolar?
    https://electricalclub.quora.com/What-is-the-bipolar-winding-of-a-center-tape-transformer-and-why-is-it-used-specifically-in-a-transistor-switching-circ (https://electricalclub.quora.com/What-is-the-bipolar-winding-of-a-center-tape-transformer-and-why-is-it-used-specifically-in-a-transistor-switching-circ)
c. ferrite core doesn't look like 1.1/4"
d. the entire channel looks like very active  video production... but something is strange here.
_______________________________________________
Video part #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L37vrSkaWBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L37vrSkaWBc)

Quote
VLF RECEIVE ANTENNA - BIPOLAR TESLA COIL with massive Ferrite Core - resonated to 17.65 Khz(pt2)
2nd test using a BIPLOAR TESLA COIL with a MASSIVE NiZn high perm Ferrite Core - resonated to 17.65 Khz with .003 uF of capacitance...to be used as a

VLF RECEIVE ANTENNA (1st video in this series
here - https://youtu.be/TyjHj2-MUjg (https://youtu.be/TyjHj2-MUjg))

VLF TRANSMITTER is now in a different location and it is using a VERY poor, inefficient, 20 foot long wire loop...
directly driven by a 5 watt audio amp at 17650 hz by the AD5DZ CW KEYBOARD sending a file.   
The audio noise floor is now reduced substantially using this BIPOLOAR FERRITE CORE TESLA COIL
and the VLF SIGNAL PICKup has been increased 10s of dbs signal/noise above the previous test setups using just a long wire 

SAQrx SDR APP: https://sites.google.com/site/sm6lkm/ (https://sites.google.com/site/sm6lkm/)... newer version of

SAQrx VLF SDR https://sites.google.com/site/swljo30tb/ (https://sites.google.com/site/swljo30tb/)
VLF Transmitter & Receiver experiments playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list)...

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 17, 2021, 07:27:05 PM
this post is related to  previous comment of mine   
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562156/#msg562156 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562156/#msg562156)
posting QROcw you-tuber  material:

 
d. the entire channel looks like very active  video production... but something is strange here.
_______________________________________________
Wesley

Some analysis:
-his channel is very active   
-no single word is ever said by him. (the QROcw)-there is however some religious speech on few of the videos, totally disconnected  from electronic theory and practice
 
but may be he is using this  speech to present his phenomena of VoP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpln3va8olI but some of (the QROcw) ideas are quite  intriguing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECvhmA7ws-4
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECvhmA7ws-4Wesley)Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 17, 2021, 09:51:44 PM
Chodzi o bipolarny transformator tesli "BIPOLAR TESLA COIL" a nie uzwojenie bipolarne.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 18, 2021, 02:57:07 AM
Subject:
Why is Blender Free https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfg8ydtOUDg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfg8ydtOUDg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blender_(software)#:~:text=The%20Dutch%20animation%20studio%20NeoGeo%20%28not%20associated%20with,2%2C%201994%20is%20considered%20to%20be%20Blender%27s%20birthday.)

Explanation:

I don't want  my  comments to look as totally  disconnected so at least in few  occasions
I want  to  back it with my motivation.
Looking at this video   I was interested  with Blender that I use for few years now form perspective of affordability.
Blender is open community project   Free and Open Source.   done by my landsman Ton Roosendaal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ton_Roosendaal).
Everyone in business( nonprofit is also a business) must make money.
But Ton Roosendaal.  managed to give something for free to all of us  and be kept afloat,  and still make money  .


That video   of Roosendaal is a kind of temptation to me in my own field.
the problem is that  the scale of Energy Extraction from Schumann Waveguide  EEfSW
is  overwhelmingly impacting not some sort  of community but the entire world.   
Consequence:
- the consequence of Blender is   millions of attracted  kids, students,  teachers, and presenters.
- the consequence of FE  is  overpopulation and humanity looking for shelter.

Attraction:
- Blender               is for free and attracts people by  easiness, application, and  provides repeatable effects.
- FE from  EEfSW  is for free and attracts people by  easiness, application, and  provides repeatable effects.
  the material in 70% of it was  posted by me in easy to absorb form in  two languages and my Youtube video .
  The missing 30% or less of it I may  post in the future.   
English : 
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557085/#msg557085 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557085/#msg557085)
Russian:
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559504/#msg559504 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559504/#msg559504)

videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zE4GjB1cWLQ)




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 18, 2021, 04:54:16 PM
Dr. I think Corum is a bit sloppy... ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) 8)
Both of  Corum Brothers  are 76+ years old now.
They  for now  no longer care about world of technology  so  you would  too in their place.
____________________________________________________


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 18, 2021, 05:28:25 PM
Ale czego ty oczekujesz od zwykłego użytkownika blendera, taki użytkownik oczekuje gotowca którego użyje do własnych celów (nie musi stawać się od razu programistą blendera), oraz wystarczy mu jedynie do tego komputer, internet, prąd, i żeby mu na łeb nie kapało. Druga sprawa poco zwykłemu użytkownikowi przesył energii z punktu a do g  :), przecież i tak musiał by zasilić nadajnik, oczywiście bardziej by było zainteresowanie gdyby był "nadajnik naturalny". Następny problem jest taki to ilość miejsca potrzebna, nie każdy mieszka na zadupiu gdzie ma pod ręką pole, nawet jak masz domek jednorodzinny w mieście to masz też sąsiadów którzy mogą być mocno zaniepokojeni tym co zobaczą i będzie trzeba tłumaczyć milicji co to jest (a tam ciężko ze zrozumieniem  :)). Ostatni problem to że nie gwarantujesz działania oraz w razie nie wiadomo jakiego wsparcia udzielasz przy uruchamianiu oraz nie wiadomo jakich efektów można się spodziewać po uruchomieniu, ile mocy mogę z tego uzyskać (czy w ogóle opłacało się to budować), to wszystko zwykłego użytkownika odstrasza.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 18, 2021, 08:37:39 PM
I agree.
Device must be proven  working before is widely accepted.
But you don't care if  anyone accepts you if you don't benefit  on it.
So is me.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: color on December 19, 2021, 09:37:09 AM
Power your home fuel-less on capacitors, make it bigger and go for your love!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJH4p2ESgh4
 
Isn't this the person Wesley introduced? ::)
I made another strange thing, are you interested? ::) 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 20, 2021, 04:50:42 PM

Frequency of ~ 130kHz  is little to high for long distances.
Frequency desired   is 20kHz and lower.
That may  require to build Rx  with use of ferrites.( not all so difficult and not so bad)

Note: inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides.
Interface air /earth is a form of 2D waveguide.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 20, 2021, 08:46:10 PM
some other  equipment used in the experiments with EEFSW and Energy Transfer.
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 20, 2021, 08:49:04 PM
some other  equipment used in the experiments with EEFSW and Energy Transfer.
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 20, 2021, 11:05:30 PM
We also used  model 605 and 606  Cober. 24kW i 31kW power respectively.Cober Model 605P High Power Pulse Generator
At full peak output, peak power is 24 kilowatts at 1.5% duty.
 https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546830/#msg546830 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546830/#msg546830)
Pulse amplitudes to 2200 volts can be dialed-in or extended to 20,000 volts using accessory, plug-in transformers.                     

https://www.tzsupplies.com/pulse-generator-high-power-cober-i5005387/
 (https://www.tzsupplies.com/pulse-generator-high-power-cober-i5005387/)This video may help to understand more about plasma generators however  on video they are not not using Cober
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkURRlvX0g

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 22, 2021, 10:46:43 AM
To masz jeszcze prostsze, a działa i cieszy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9jdv6zD38 , kiedyś podobny zbudowałem w podstawówce na zpt.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 22, 2021, 11:38:33 AM
To masz jeszcze prostsze, a działa i cieszy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9jdv6zD38 , kiedyś podobny zbudowałem w podstawówce na zpt.

Poważnie ? myślałem, że żartujesz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 22, 2021, 12:09:40 PM
Tak. Nawet dostałem nagrodę, która była karą. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 22, 2021, 01:51:59 PM
important  to understand  is that  Zenneck wave doesn't radiate in air. Communication is NOT DONE IN AIR. THIS WAVE DOESN'T EXIST IN AIR.
At Near field  from UP/Down tuned Top capacitor    wave enters INTERFACE  at Complex Brewster Angle and exists only  in that interface from now.
 in TM mode .

It needs to be understood that winding the particular Tesla Coil according to posted by  me (first picture of my post from above.)
1. 2200m = 136,24 khz takes 30 minutes. (using lathe) or 3 hours  if  pivoted  and  all winding information is  in the picture.
                                                               pivoted manual winding : at best takes 2 people
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296)
2. this coil is good for short distance testing of A to B energy transfer as mandatory learning curve experience  before  EEfSW.
3. the minimum equipment that is needed for that is:
a-  for Tx 3 pieces  or  just 1 generator,  look at second picture  from previous  post and Tesla Coil.
b-  for Rx exactly the same way winded Tesla coil and the load look at second picture  from previous post.
Person walking the distance of 200m between  Tx and Rx  with LED testing probe in his hand starting his walk
from the Tx can see light on LED in Near Field than LED quickly light dims  in Freshnel zone and disappears.
At the Tesla coil  Rx (receiver site)  it doesn't work that way.  The power is seen only at the connected to it load.
At both  the Tx and Rx  impedance match and complex Brewster Angle  tuning is a must!!! It will not work without it.
tuning  was explained here and in two of my dedicated  to it topics.start to read from here :
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546325/#msg546325
 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546325/#msg546325)practical schematic of Tx at 2200m= 136,24 khz is here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg547756/#msg547756 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg547756/#msg547756)
in Russian: https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559483/#msg559483 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559483/#msg559483)
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Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on December 22, 2021, 02:13:28 PM
to 3614 :
do You understand the FE spectrum from the Tesla Tower/rec/antenna device as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation FeV and FeA alpha,beta,delta,...... gain potential ?

Sincerely
OCWL

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 22, 2021, 06:46:26 PM
to 3614 :
do You understand the FE spectrum from the Tesla Tower/rec/antenna device as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation) FeV and FeA alpha,beta,delta,...... gain potential ?
  Streamers and sparks are not allowed in the test. Ionization is at its minimum.
I share information only and it is no way I talk someone to perform the Tests. It is at your own  responsibility.
The frequency of testing is  20kHz or below it for EEfSW and  presented winding coil in instruction is for 131kHz.
-good only for  short range of energy transfer  from point A to point B.
Wesley 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 22, 2021, 10:28:16 PM
• How come surface Wave known as Zenneck wave fallows the curvature of the earth?
Quote
1901 Guglielmo Marconi the broadcast took place across the Atlantic at a frequency of 30 kHz
. we may assume that it was Zenneck wave that made it happened.
1901 Гульельмо Марконирадиопередача проходила через Атлантику на частоте 30 кГц.
мы можем предположить, что это была волна Зеннека, которая заставила это произойти. https://www.rroij.com/open-access/surface-electromagnetic-waves.php?aid=87345 (https://www.rroij.com/open-access/surface-electromagnetic-waves.php?aid=87345)
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Zenneck wave is the fact that (aside from the exponential decay factors) its field is inversely proportional to the square root of r, rather than to r itself as would be true for usual free space propagation with a source of finite extent. Again, this is not unexpected; it is simply due to the approximate two-dimensional nature of the propagation problem
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html This is article of MIT
Quote
Janice Turner and colleagues at Roke Manor Research (http://www.roke.co.uk/) of Romsey, U.K., have developed a Zenneck wave demo unit. This can transmit high-definition video over a length of conductor covered with dielectric with a bandwidth of up to 1.5 gigabits per second.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a8778/skimming-the-surface-the-return-of-teslas-surface-waves-15322250/
 (https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a8778/skimming-the-surface-the-return-of-teslas-surface-waves-15322250/)Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10998604B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10998604B2/en)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 23, 2021, 10:19:02 AM
Fala Zennecka niczego nie sprawia, a tym bardziej tego jak się rozchodzi, jest jedynie reakcją na akcję źródła.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 23, 2021, 12:48:17 PM
Fala Zennecka niczego nie sprawia, a tym bardziej tego jak się rozchodzi, jest jedynie reakcją na akcję źródła.
Zenneck wave is as form of  electromagnetic energy  has its origin, rules of interaction with  presented to it our own matching load.
You need to understand at first  than  speculate  how to benefit and progress.
Example: https://overunity.com/18992/ionosphere-oscillation-ever-attempted/msg562397/#msg562397
Wesley


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 23, 2021, 08:57:05 PM
I have a question. Assuming there is an artificial  source of Zenneck wave somewhere on Earth how to find a place where this wave cannot be detected ? I think it's important to prove all those FE devices are not powered by manmade source
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 24, 2021, 10:00:32 AM

Energii wokół nas jest ogrom tylko nie umiemy jej konwertować do tej na którą się uparliśmy czyli prąd.
Nadal mamy problem ze zamianą ciepła w prąd efektywnie. Lepiej nam wychodzi konwersja pola magnetycznego ale to też nie to jest najważniejsze.
Mamy od dawna panele PV i stawiamy na to. Owszem z teorii fal ze słońca obliczono że 1m2 da kilka kWh z tym że teraz odzyskujemy kilka %.
Szum EM wydaje się być ogromem fal które wystarczy odebrać, przekształcić i wykorzystać. Są projekty takich urządzeń już na poważnie realizowane.
Zastosowanie w telefonach wiecznych. Po części ta technologia już działa w trybie impulsowym dla lokalizacji telefonu nawet jak nie ma baterii ! To jak rfid czy znane PING lub inne określenie lokalizacji.
Wystarczy przecież odbiór kilku../nastu/set/... fal i fazowanie ich aby dostać moc z rozproszonego widma. Jednak czy tu były by kW !? No zakresów jest dużo więc i kW się znajdą ale czy dla każdego ?
Czy 100 osób po 10kW to problem ? nie ale już 100.000.000 po 10kW to chyba tak aby taka technologia zadziałała w tym sensie. Może się mylę.
W końcu Viziv ma to robić tak ?
Technologia dążąca do tego to : Energy Harvesting.   VIZIV coś pisali o kryptografi energii a czy to nie było by podobne.

Zatem gdzie są źródła energii? no wszędzie ale to drażniące już bo jesteśmy jak ślepcy którzy co chwila się dowiadują że wystarczy otworzyć oczy.... ale oni nie mogą.


...
Niedawno pewien facio Chikumbutso zrobił to łącząc fale w jedną poprzez jak to określił skupienie ich. Nie mylić z łączeniem fal !!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 24, 2021, 12:51:39 PM
https://www.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/patent/142352/images.html?modificationDate=20130013&page=1&scale=25&rotation=0&englishDocType=Claims&frenchDocType=Revendications&type=basic_search&objectName=CLM&numPages=3&query=142352&start=&num=
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 24, 2021, 01:01:42 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=685958A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19011105&DB=&locale=en_EP
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 24, 2021, 01:06:19 PM
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=101&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19011102&CC=GB&NR=190111293A&KC=A
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on December 25, 2021, 10:05:12 AM
Piszesz o smogu EM wywołanym przez sztuczne nadajniki, a temat i moje pytanie dotyczyło fal z interfejsu Schumanna.

Dla jednych szum jeśli nie widzisz w tym sensu. Jeśli nie umiesz "zdekodować" sygnału to wszystko jest tylko szumem.  Amplituda coś wnosi jeśli uznamy, że szum to jakaś wartość odniesienia.
wyjaśnię dokładniej: chodziło o całe tło EM.
Fale Schumanna to echo burz.

Przy okazji: nie ograniczaj się bo nie musisz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 25, 2021, 04:51:23 PM
types of surface waves
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 25, 2021, 06:30:09 PM
Zenneck Wave can work at any frequency  it will have different name  and little different  technique of excitation.
In regards to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=487s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=487s)
pointed by me  in my comment  from above.
Group of surface waves  includes Zenneck Wave along with other types of "the same"  listed.
All of them  use INTERFACE  but we decided to  find by ourselves  how Electromagnetic Wave in the Interface
(the Zenneck Wave having now different name )
behaves. We test it with tool below at optical  frequency  range.
https://accusrc.com/uploads/datasheets/5153_OSA-155.pdf
 (https://accusrc.com/uploads/datasheets/5153_OSA-155.pdf)This is a field-ready optical spectrum analyzer offering measurements of wavelength, power, and optical SNR on the different carriers of multiwavelength signals
in the range 1450 to 1650 nm. Internal wavelength reference for high wavelength measurement accuracy. Fast and complete DWDM system analysis .
Easy and intuitive touchscreen operation. Can be powered by AC line, external DC, or internal battery.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on December 27, 2021, 01:46:04 PM
@Wesley.
Pełna zgoda.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on December 28, 2021, 09:04:21 AM
Wesley co do oscylacji w jonosferze, to nie jest tylko kwestia fotonów, to są bardzo złożone interakcje procesów występujących w jonosferze i magnetosferze, polecam prostą i przyjemną lekturę: https://www.mps.mpg.de/phd/theses/spatial-and-temporal-structure-of-alfven-resonator-waves-at-the-terrestrial-plasmapause ,  oraz trza użyć wujka google i poszukać "Magnetosphere Alfven resonator" , "Ionosphere Alfven Resonator" , to taki prezent na gwiazdkę  ;D.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
Now are we going to expect gold to rise in price?

link  to the material in question:
https://news.stanford.edu/2021/12/14/new-materials-deliver-ultrathin-solar-panel/ (https://news.stanford.edu/2021/12/14/new-materials-deliver-ultrathin-solar-panel/)

 components  of a  photosensitive foil:-TMD
tungsten diselenide
 -and contacts of gold
-spanned by a layer of conducting graphene

TMD is Transition-metal dichalcogenide  and is only 6.5 Å thick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_metal_dichalcogenide_monolayers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_metal_dichalcogenide_monolayers)

tungsten diselenide is:
chem-  Se=W=Se    (Se symbol of selenium)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten_diselenide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten_diselenide)

where W symbol  is Wolfram  known also as Tungsten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tungsten)

Thickness of the gold contact is  expected to be in ~ tens of  nm.
One gram of gold can be stretched any where between 2.99 to 3 km approx.=2.1 mile.
https://www.quora.com/How-many-km-a-1gm-of-gold-can-be-stretched (https://www.quora.com/How-many-km-a-1gm-of-gold-can-be-stretched)
-so it is unlikely  that  gold will  grow in price because of that
_______________________________________________
 
But  the energy density  or  energy per unit  is not  known to me yet.

More in new  post :

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2022, 07:38:50 PM
[quote]TMDs struggled to turn more than 2 percent of the sunlight they absorb into electricity.
in comparison   silicon solar panels, is  in 30 percent of  photon to  electric  energy conversion.
It looks like  TMD is as loser.. but....
if 30% is equal to 3 dollar per hour  and
if  2% is equal to 0.1 $ than  every 10h you gaining 1 dollar. per  lighted area in square cm.
Your gain is $0.1 x n( where n  is  multiplication of square area e.g 1cm2 of the panel )

Another-words it doesn't  matter  how much is the gain if  all of it is for free after  initial cost of the panel assuming its life span to be relatively long .
We don't care how bad is efficiency of  solar panel as we don't pay for energy of sun.     https://news.stanford.edu/2021/12/14/new-materials-deliver-ultrathin-solar-panel/ (https://news.stanford.edu/2021/12/14/new-materials-deliver-ultrathin-solar-panel/)

Quote
The array includes the photovoltaic TMD tungsten diselenide and contacts of gold spanned by a layer of conducting graphene that
is just a single atom thick. All that is sandwiched between a flexible, skin-like polymer and an anti-reflective coating that improves the absorption of light.
Quote
When fully assembled, the TMD cells are less than six microns thick – about that of a lightweight office trash bag.


What is good: ?
Quote
This research was funded by the Stanford SystemX Alliance (https://systemx.stanford.edu/), the Swiss National Science Foundation,
the Beijing Institute of Collaborative Innovation, the U.S. National Science Foundation and
the U.S. Department of Energy.
Saraswat is the Rickey/Nielsen Professor in Stanford’s School of Engineering and an affiliated faculty
member of Stanford’s Precourt Institute for Energy (https://energy.stanford.edu/).


___________________________________________________________________________



Viziv technology  was also not a secret but.. 

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 12, 2022, 12:36:19 PM
What does the abbreviation "E X S" mean for a car? :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 13, 2022, 03:34:56 AM
Hi
Does anyone have the photo of this in Hd which akula shared.
I have seen it here but cannot find it
https://youtu.be/H_iEE5HfEB4 (https://youtu.be/H_iEE5HfEB4)
Colour if have it please post it here

The video was made in Germany

Color  is copying whatever he can just to be able to snick his Korean content  without  attention of moderators.
This was in Germany
 in
Quote
tiger 9:11 PM
2013 осень
fall (autumn) of 2013

Tiger Vitaly from Kazakhstan was brought there to help Akula, as he couldn't perform there .
The place of test was  штудгард  Stuttgart  near Hamburg.

This is Tiger comment from 1 minute ago.
Quote
tiger, 9:06 PM
да 20 ватт энергосберегайка , да к тому же горели от поля ( подключения там не было , просто провод под изолентой ) именно тогда мы заподозрили что это фейк .
yes 20W energo-sucker, and was giving light from the  field, there was no  connection ( to anything)
wire simply was under  insulation,( second meaning of  "провод под изолентой" can be translated : was having isolation ) exactly at that moment we started to  suspect the fake

have you been there Tiger ?
Quote
tiger, 9:13 PM
да
я был в другой лаборатории , не у Артура
I was in the lab not  at Artur Stefanov place.

so he didn't see the test  but Tiger suspected  a fake.
____________________________________________________________


To understand it better  you need to  know  position of  each player .
at first Stefanov -Russian  contacted me in 2012 asking me to go with him to Hamburg for the show.
I refused.
Than Stefanov met German investor at the show.
At the same time  Akula from Kazakhstan  made videos.
Investor found about videos and wanted  Stefanov to give him  similar device.
In fear of losing the opportunity Stefanov went to Akula  in Kazakhstan   but to make sure that Akula's device is legit , he hired Tiger from Kazakhstan to examine   Akula's device.
Tiger concluded that Akula's device is working as self powered.

All of it was to do not lose German investor money.
Stefanov went to Germany with Tiger they were working in the lab.

Akula was working in  different place .
I assume but I didn't ask Tiger  - that tiger was carousing between these two.

 I assume that German Investor  created  some kind of competition:
-  who will deliver that one  will get money.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 17, 2022, 04:16:41 AM

Adrian Guska Death, Смерть Адриана Гуски, «Денис Днестр» How to make FE
https://youtu.be/_9foRzZEZRo
 (https://youtu.be/_9foRzZEZRo)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 17, 2022, 08:01:56 AM
In Western countries, democratic countries where human rights are respected, which I have no doubt, a person, especially a new one, is identified by what is written in his document.
It's just a pathetic piece of paper.  But not what he really is.
How then are you different from us?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on January 17, 2022, 10:21:22 AM
Problem w tym aby potwierdzić swój wiek to trzeba przesłać zdjęcie dowodu osobistego lub innego dokumentu, tak na prawdę nie wiadomo komu i kto dokładnie będzie sprawdzał i wykorzystywał moje dane, więc nigdy nie posunę się do takiego kroku.

A co do rdzenia cewki odchylania to różnice dużą robi pole powierzchni poprzecznej rdzenia, co do składu to proszek ferrytowy o im mniejszej gradacji tym lepiej, np.: rdzenie z dawnych telewizorów Sony są znacznie lepsze od rubina.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 17, 2022, 09:12:28 PM
Macie tu trochę fimików na temat https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhsaWT9VFiCayFMMtcl0-wTyRClcDpyD-


a jakby ktoś miał filmiki Nelsona Rocha to prosiłbym zapodać
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on January 19, 2022, 12:59:48 PM
Najłatwiej poszukać w google - video "Nelson Rocha free energy"
https://www.google.com/search?q=nelson+rocha+free+energy&client=firefox-b&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjyo-yt4b31AhUCmIsKHa63CI8Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1600&bih=742&dpr=1

Ale co wynika ze schematu to jest samodławny generator impulsów prawie-szpilkowych.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 19, 2022, 08:48:54 PM
Gdybym znalazł przez google to bym nie prosił o kopie. Tych filmików było trochę więcej i jeden dotyczył prostego układu generującego radialną elektryczność , schemat jest w internecie ale z filmiku zostało tylko kilka zrzutów ekranu. Tutaj próba odtworzenia tego układu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6lmd0HKxOw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on January 20, 2022, 02:47:17 PM
IMHO "radialną elektryczność" to brzmi tak bardzo ezoterycznie i marketingowo jednocześnie, a poza tym jak pisałem to jest generator impulsów prawie-szpilkowych.

V(n002) - sygnał przed L3, V(n002) - sygnał po L3.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 20, 2022, 07:56:54 PM
radiant energy - fakt, można też przetłumaczyć jako elektryczność promienista



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on January 21, 2022, 12:11:48 PM
"radiant energy" - to też nazwa ezoteryczno-maketingowa, stosowana po to aby dany prawie-wynalazca mógł na tym zarobić, to tak jak "quantum", tyle że rzeczywisty efekt całości to tylko placebo.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 29, 2022, 08:51:44 PM
How much energy can be extracted from Schumann waveguide using described by Dr Corum  interface and Wesley's method of energy extraction :
Let us take look at first  at how much energy is available.

How much energy is released a year of all the lightning on earth?

About 100 bolts of lightning hit the Earth every second (http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/natural-disasters/lightning-profile/) and they average about a billion joules of energy be bolt (http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2012/05/could-we-harness-lightning-as-an-energy-source.html).
That's 3.1 billion lightning strikes per year, coming to about 3.1 billion billion joules per year, or about 860 billion kilowatt-hours (kwh) of electrical energy per year.   
That estimate is pretty rough as some estimates have as much as 5 billion joules per bolt of lightning, pushing it up over 4 trillion kwh/year.

https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/8249/how-much-energy-is-released-a-year-of-all-the-lightning-on-earth (https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/8249/how-much-energy-is-released-a-year-of-all-the-lightning-on-earth)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: verpies on January 31, 2022, 10:04:53 AM
Regarding the deflection yoke, the cross sectional area of the core makes a big difference and as far as the composition goes, the finer the ferrite powder, the better, e.g. the cores from past Sony TC sets are much better than from Rubin.
It depends on what you mean by "better", e.g.: saturation level, permeability, AL value, remanence/hysteresis losses at certain frequency.


The aforementioned parameters might be better for a core used in a switching power supply, but could be considered secondary in a device taking advantage of such phenomena as NAR or NMR device where the skin depth and isotopic composition are the primary parameters of concern.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on January 31, 2022, 04:04:32 PM
How much energy can be extracted from Schumann waveguide using described by Dr Corum  interface and Wesley's method of energy extraction :
Let us take look at first  at how much energy is available.

How much energy is released a year of all the lightning on earth?

About 100 bolts of lightning hit the Earth every second (http://environment.nationalgeographic.com/environment/natural-disasters/lightning-profile/) and they average about a billion joules of energy be bolt (http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2012/05/could-we-harness-lightning-as-an-energy-source.html).
That's 3.1 billion lightning strikes per year, coming to about 3.1 billion billion joules per year, or about 860 billion kilowatt-hours (kwh) of electrical energy per year.   
That estimate is pretty rough as some estimates have as much as 5 billion joules per bolt of lightning, pushing it up over 4 trillion kwh/year.

https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/8249/how-much-energy-is-released-a-year-of-all-the-lightning-on-earth (https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/8249/how-much-energy-is-released-a-year-of-all-the-lightning-on-earth)

Wesley
hi Wesley,
I have attached something of value in your area of interest regarding transfer of power -

Transference of Electric Power - Single Wire vs Telluric Part 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je63-2D5bf4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je63-2D5bf4)
Telluric Transference of Electric Power - MF Band 2 8 Mileshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25C-bHBdF34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25C-bHBdF34)
Do check his other videos on how he used network vector analyzer to optimize tesla coil...
-------------------------------
I have not forgotten on why you have expanded your laboratory in the first place after observing/touching Tariel Kapanadze device...

If i recalled correctly from past message regarding some device which was presented to Tariel which likely have abnormality symptom likely after powering down device.

If Tariel is/was a electrician then he would already know the 3rd harmonics is a more dominant issue in a electrical system than any other harmonics.Please do consider the possibilities.... :D   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on February 01, 2022, 02:16:03 PM
Gradacja proszku (nie wiem jak dokładnie po angielsku, dosłownie to powder gradation)- średnia wielkość ziaren proszku całości.
Ziarnistość (granularity)- wielkość ziaren na jednostkę powierzchni.
Myślałem bardziej o zastosowaniu takim jak w urządzeniu Akuli, co do pomiarów to porównanie histerezy i krzywych strat między rdzeniami cewek odchylania z tv rubin a sony.

Co do wykresów mimo tego że sondę zrobiłeś bardziej o statycznej pojemności to wzbudzenie rdzenia występuje przy dynamicznej reaktancji indukcyjnej.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: verpies on February 01, 2022, 02:53:47 PM
...direct translation is powder gradation - the average size of the grains in its entirety.
"the average size of the grains" is understandable to me.
Please avoid using the word "gradation" in this context, because in English this word does not have the same meaning as in your language. In English it means "stopniowanie", which when combined with "powder" yields a monstrosity like: "stopniowanie proszku".

Granularity - the size of grains per unit of area.
That makes no physical sense.
Did you mean to write: "Granularity - the amount of grains in one layer per unit of area" ?

I was rather thinking about an application in a device like the Akula's
Does this device behave like a classical transformer ?

as far as the measurement go, it is the comparison of the BH hysteresis curves and hysteresis losses between Rubin and Sony TV yokes.
This has already been done on another forum and has a high yawn factor in application to unconventional devices.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: verpies on February 01, 2022, 03:30:14 PM
Regarding the graphs, despite that you made the probe capacitive, the excitation of the core occurs with the dynamic inductive reactance.
I do not know why you added the word "dynamic" to "inductive reactance" as the latter does not occur at all in non-dynamic situations, like with direct current.
Anyway, further experiments illustrate that the capacitive characteristics of this core also depend on the circumferential magnetization of this material performed by a toroidal winding placed far away on the other half of this core (generating 225 Ampturns of MMF).
The frequencies of some peaks become shifted up and their amplitude increases in the magnetized state.

From these experiments it is evident that the core's material can be polarized either by magnetic flux or by electric flux and that there is a definite interaction between them in the core.

IMO such measurements have a lower yawn factor than the BH curve measurements of conventional transformers and are more applicable to an unconventional device like the one depicted in this video (https://youtu.be/gbeseiPPCeM?t=192)

P.S.
I could post S21 graphs which illustrate this shift but I will not because this forum's software is annoying as it gives me no control over the size of displayed images and insists on displaying their full width, which stretches the entire page and makes this thread unreadable on small, low resolution monitors.   Other SMF forums do not have this problem.
I expect that soon someone will start bitching about it and advise me to resize my images, which I will not do in order not to lose details contained within them and then an all too familiar discussion will ensue about whether it is the job of the forum's software to resize and display thumbnails of posted images ...or the poster's.  Are you reading this Stefan ?!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: verpies on February 02, 2022, 02:34:38 PM
This schematic https://overunity.com/14734/akula-1-kwatt-free-energy-generator/msg408461/#msg408461 (https://overunity.com/14734/akula-1-kwatt-free-energy-generator/msg408461/#msg408461), besides this it is easy to surmise what is conventional, meaning everything except the "perverted transformer (coil if you will)".
You assume too much.

See this thread (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg90802#msg90802) for illustration.
There are links to many videos in that thread, too. I think this video (https://youtu.be/vykb0XXSQe4) is the first one.

P.S.
Akula = Shark
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 03, 2022, 03:24:18 AM
few things to know:
- Veripes is a scientist.
I do take his opinion very much as  facts.
_________________________________________________________
I was not here for some time but I'm back.

In the meantime "
-the icon of  FE  Eric Dollard published the article and the video.
I have respect to the guy but I don't always agree with his findings.
or to be  more exact I mostly   disagree  with him.

here is article :
 https://emediapress.com/2022/02/16/self-sustaining-charge-in-electrostatic-rotary-converter-built-by-chris-carson/ (https://emediapress.com/2022/02/16/self-sustaining-charge-in-electrostatic-rotary-converter-built-by-chris-carson/)
here is his video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwD23PEL9Q&t=517s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwD23PEL9Q&t=517s)

The  video talks  about :
Chris Carson's rotating capacitor

Chris  is one of guys from  team of :
Peter Lindemann and Eric Dollard casually discuss the possibilities of Chris Carson's rotating capacitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6K-fZAXT_A

Additional character  here is  one of uncle  of former president Trump the
John. G Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump)
Eric Dollard  talks about his article:
-Electrostatic sources of electric power
Published 1 June 1947
Physics
Electrical Engineering

John G.Trump  is also known from  other articles: https://academictree.org/physics/publications.php?pid=215319 (https://academictree.org/physics/publications.php?pid=215319)


 So Eric Dollard  is testing device that was build in 2022 by Chris Carlson based on article of John G Trump  from 1947 and patented by
Inventor Onezime P. Breaux (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux) in 1978
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux)

_________________________________________________________


It is just  5kHz HV generator that is turning  two  capacitors connected into one shaft in such a way that one capacitor is
at its  max when the other is in its minimum - and  in process of rotation it is "compensating"  the change  of capacitive  reactance
 -in another words  the only rapid change  takes place in that  fraction of the second  when the rotating  butterfly  plate approaches  the very edge  of the fixed plate of the same capacitor.

I have problem  with application  of this particular  physical copy of  energy conversion shown on the  video.
-  but this is  my opinion.


note: this was also  discussed here : http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable- (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-)
energy/14635-rotary-electrostatic-converter-by-chris-carson
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on March 05, 2022, 09:20:09 AM
few things to know:
- Veripes is a scientist.
I do take his opinion very much as  facts.
_________________________________________________________
I was not here for some time but I'm back.

In the meantime "
-the icon of  FE  Eric Dollard published the article and the video.
I have respect to the guy but I don't always agree with his findings.
or to be  more exact I mostly   disagree  with him.

here is article :
 https://emediapress.com/2022/02/16/self-sustaining-charge-in-electrostatic-rotary-converter-built-by-chris-carson/ (https://emediapress.com/2022/02/16/self-sustaining-charge-in-electrostatic-rotary-converter-built-by-chris-carson/)
here is his video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwD23PEL9Q&t=517s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJwD23PEL9Q&t=517s)

The  video talks  about :
Chris Carson's rotating capacitor

Chris  is one of guys from  team of :
Peter Lindemann and Eric Dollard casually discuss the possibilities of Chris Carson's rotating capacitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6K-fZAXT_A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6K-fZAXT_A)

Additional character  here is  one of uncle  of former president Trump the
John. G Trump
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Trump)
Eric Dollard  talks about his article:
-Electrostatic sources of electric power
Published 1 June 1947
Physics
Electrical Engineering

John G.Trump  is also known from  other articles: https://academictree.org/physics/publications.php?pid=215319 (https://academictree.org/physics/publications.php?pid=215319)


 So Eric Dollard  is testing device that was build in 2022 by Chris Carlson based on article of John G Trump  from 1947 and patented by
Inventor Onezime P. Breaux (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux) in 1978
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Onezime+P.+Breaux)

_________________________________________________________


It is just  5kHz HV generator that is turning  two  capacitors connected into one shaft in such a way that one capacitor is
at its  max when the other is in its minimum - and  in process of rotation it is "compensating"  the change  of capacitive  reactance
 -in another words  the only rapid change  takes place in that  fraction of the second  when the rotating  butterfly  plate approaches  the very edge  of the fixed plate of the same capacitor.

I have problem  with application  of this particular  physical copy of  energy conversion shown on the  video.
-  but this is  my opinion.


note: this was also  discussed here : http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable- (http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-)
energy/14635-rotary-electrostatic-converter-by-chris-carson
Wesley
hi stivep,
Interesting i have seen this video with fav entertainer Eric Dollard just few weeks back.The video is like a 3D version of wimshurst generator with the usual "dielectric plates".

Regarding electrostatic to low voltage electricity i have seen few years ago-
Tesla coil "the true secret" how it was really used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwVOp-HPIVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwVOp-HPIVE)


how to make a electrostatic step-down transformer, part 2, ampere test, Wimshurst to low volt DC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ipm6r7h-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6ipm6r7h-Y)

---------------------------------------------------
Back to kapanadze topic/hint-
If "resistance" oppose the flow of electrons.
What do you think "negative resistance" created by counter-clock wise turns after the 2nd layer of 48turns kapanadze winding would do? Oppose or Accelerate the flow of Electrons :D

Strangely i have done a elementary experiment to test "negative resistance" (by accident)during research of don-smith long before i lay my eyes on kapanadze topic.


I wound 10 turns of 2 similar coils(Multi strand electrical wire)  base on my memory gave resistance around 0.4Ohms ea from 2 similar windings.
If you connect both windings to form one continuous winding with the assistance of croc-clip in the middle to llnk the 2 windings.The resistance in series would be expected to be around 0.8Ohms...0.9Ohms either way.

The fun part if i connect one of winding in a counter clockwise direction and link with a croc-clip in the middle.The multi-meter reveal 0.4Ohms again either way.Take note during resistance measurement
DMM does produce voltage at probe and yet resistance reading is around half of 0.9Ohms.
The experiment did defy the logic/norm which was taught in school-The resistance of a wire is directly proportional to its length of wire.
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 11, 2022, 02:13:17 PM

Thomas E. Bearden December 17, 1930 - February 03, 2022
 
At the request of Tom's daughter, Dana Bearden, we wanted to inform you of his passing:
 
 https://www.berryhillfh.com/obituary/thomas-tom-bearden
 (https://www.berryhillfh.com/obituary/thomas-tom-bearden)  he was lone wolf however  cooperating with Free Energy Research with Eric Dollard, Peter Lindemann and Thomas Brown


Ph.D., nuclear engineer, retired Lieutenant Colonel, CEO of CTEC, Inc.,
 Director of the Association of Distinguished American Scientists, and Fellow Emeritus of the Alpha Foundation's Institute for Advanced Study.
Tom is a theoretical conceptualist active in the study of scalar electromagnetics, advanced electrodynamics, unified field theory, KGB energetics
weapons and phenomena, free energy systems, electromagnetic healing via the unified field action of extended
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More information on these topics can be found on Tom's website: www.cheniere.org, and DVD's on
Tom's work can be found at www.energyforthevacuum.com

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on March 14, 2022, 12:03:56 PM
Holcolmb energy systems


https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article (https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be)


Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)


So it begins


(How’s it do what it do …Where is the energy coming from ??)


Respectfully submitted


Chet K
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on March 14, 2022, 03:13:49 PM
Holcolmb energy systems


https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article (https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be)


Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)


So it begins


(How’s it do what it do …Where is the energy coming from ??)


Respectfully submitted


Chet K
hi ramset,
Interesting link and they used words like 'Electron spin' and then few sentences later i captured this word in my head 'significantly magnifies power output'So it looks like different people or experts have different way to represent somewhat similar idea. ;D

We humans do indeed think alike at times although we view or do thing differently.
In my rather "recent" video in youtube :) i did talk about singing bowl where we apply ""non-rigid"" slow hand or tool movement in order to achieve higher frequency sound from the singing bowl.Quartz singing bowl Eg:https://youtu.be/PQGisaMbw94?t=63 (https://youtu.be/PQGisaMbw94?t=63)Many members in forum were deceived by older Ruslan video where he applied resonance  "i used the word rigid"  such that frequency in is the same as the frequency output.No different from a step up power supply.

I dabbled with 3rd harmonics to fine tune the system and i also applied 3rd sub-harmonics which you need hv source from tesla coil.Another hint about 3rd sub-harmonics used by Akula is merely comparing which of 4017 divider setting produce the exact on/off period.If anyone ever played with 4017 years ago may know that each divider setting do not give 50% on/off duty.
The HV high frequency  interrupter is another key to accelerate the electrons under 3rd sub-harmonics.The HV can't be too high or too low. ;D ;D ;D


Good Luck.I have explained in the most layman term. :o
No more hints from here...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on March 15, 2022, 01:49:15 AM
Hi If you want to divide by 1.5  50/50  you can do it with a 4076 on the input and feed back
2  4013 / divided by 2 the second devides the modified output of the  4086 from 3 to 1.5 
producing 1.5 50/50 the first 4013 needs to be fed back into the 2nd input of the 4076.
Clear as mud ;)

To Divide by 3 =you would need 3 4013 and some  multi input gating feed back chips

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nix85 on March 15, 2022, 09:59:28 PM
When we talk about harmonics, first consider one fundamental question.

How come that systems resonate at second harmonic.

Second harmonic is amplifying the resonant oscillation 1/2 of the time
and diminishing it other 1/2 of the time

That is a literal equivalent of pushing a swing and as it reaches half way
push it in the opposite direction with same force.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nix85 on March 22, 2022, 05:29:35 AM
I gotta add, obviously, there are many types of resonance, namely

mechanical
acoustic
electromagnetic
nuclear magnetic (NMR)
electron spin (ESR)
quantum wave functions

For acoustic resonance, resonance at harmonics makes sense as waves are nicely packed so that end nodes/antinodes (whether it's open tube or closed on one end) align with the physical dimensions of the tube.

For LC tank as far as i know they do not resonate at harmonics (series lc behaving inductively above res freq and cap below and parallel lc inversely) so that's fine.

For mechanical systems like a swing, they clearly cannot oscillate at second harmonic.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 12, 2022, 04:45:10 AM
Holcolmb energy systems
https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article (https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be)
Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)
So it begins
(How’s it do what it do …Where is the energy coming from ??)
Respectfully submitted
Chet K
the problem with extraordinary claims is that they must be proven.The literature that is provided as well as the information about the technology is insufficient to evaluate the technology.There is no such thing as less energy In then energy Out.Small amount of energy delivered may trigger energy conversion that is using yet another source of energy.for our eyes it will be an illusion of energy magnification as we don't know about that secondary source of energy.if that energy source is paid by somebody else or by nature then we have free energy.
---------------------------------------------------
'Electron spin' and then few sentences later i captured this word in my head 'significantly magnifies power output'S ;D ;D ;D
/electron-spin-resonance#: (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/electron-spin-resonance#:~:text=Electron%20spin%20resonance%20%28ESR%29%20is%20a%20spectroscopic%20technique,in%20the%20presence%20of%20a%20static%20magnetic%20field.)


I gotta add, obviously, there are many types of resonance, namely

mechanical
acoustic
electromagnetic
nuclear magnetic (NMR)
electron spin (ESR)
quantum wave functions
For LC tank as far as i know they do not resonate at harmonics (series lc behaving inductively above res freq and cap below and parallel lc inversely) so that's fine.



I may have enough of time to get into a more deep and explain how the system works.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on April 12, 2022, 05:13:25 AM
the problem with extraordinary claims is that they must be proven.The literature that is provided as well as the information about the technology is insufficient to evaluate the technology.There is no such thing as less energy In then energy Out.Small amount of energy delivered may trigger energy conversion that is using yet another source of energy.for our eyes it will be an illusion of energy magnification as we don't know about that secondary source of energy.if that energy source is paid by somebody else or by nature then we have free energy.
---------------------------------------------------/electron-spin-resonance#: (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/electron-spin-resonance#:~:text=Electron%20spin%20resonance%20%28ESR%29%20is%20a%20spectroscopic%20technique,in%20the%20presence%20of%20a%20static%20magnetic%20field.)




I may have enough of time to get into a more deep and explain how the system works.
Wesley
Wesley, explaining in a kind of

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nfFnbBUkxes)
and

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=QED+hyperphysics&oq=QED+hyperphysics&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=QED+hyperphysics&oq=QED+hyperphysics&aqs=heirloom-srp)..
either
https://www.google.com/search?q=QCD+hyperphysics&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=QCD+hyperphysics&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
conjunction ?

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=em+spectrum&oq=em+spectrum&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=em+spectrum&oq=em+spectrum&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l5)

  to

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=emg+spectrum&oq=emg+spectrum&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l3 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=emg+spectrum&oq=emg+spectrum&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l3)


https://www.google.com/search?q=spectralanalytik&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=spectralanalytik&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
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               Algometrie-lAlgorythmic-Resultat /Human-Resultat : identical ?

              Algology ,the study of pain ,the being as " human"/the being as "man"


wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: life-style kind  and expectation ,perspective :

https://science.orf.at/stories/3212502/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-global-de-DE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YrJs9OqPndI
 
Mf = shortly for :
 " Mit freundlichem ...." ,Automat translation "Kind ...." Kind : polite,friendly,childly ::) ( Spiel-Kind im Manne)
https://www.kindergesundheit-info.de/themen/spielen/hauptsache-spielen/
Wer nicht spielt der lebt ohne Vergnuegen ,bei E- und U- Musen


 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 13, 2022, 09:05:03 PM
When we talk about harmonics, first consider one fundamental question.

How come that systems resonate at second harmonic.

Second harmonic is amplifying the resonant oscillation 1/2 of the time
and diminishing it other 1/2 of the time

That is a literal equivalent of pushing a swing and as it reaches half way
push it in the opposite direction with same force.
Re MR Nix85 your post on the overtone freq and wave length's
So if we have a Katcher of 1.8mhz (for the sake of argument) witch way in 'F' do you think we are going
to hit the Grenade coil  in frequency and why ?

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 14, 2022, 05:24:01 PM
Quote
to hit the Grenade coil  in frequency and why ?
I don't know.

What is your voltage between the zero of the home electrical network and grounding?
I measure very little now, about three volts.
There used to be more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 15, 2022, 10:45:48 PM
I don't know.

What is your voltage between the zero of the home electrical network and grounding?
I measure very little now, about three volts.
There used to be more.
Do you know the correct lingo for your question  home electrics ? are you asking me the differance between the potential of the nutral and earth of the off grid power return ?

No idea i dont mess with the mains it can fry your insides it's best left alone.
Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 03:30:48 AM
Analysis PART 1

Quote
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565633/#msg565633 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565633/#msg565633)
Holcolmb energy systems
https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article (https://www.newpowerprogress.com/news/holcomb-scientific-research-harnesses-electron-spin-to-deliver-power/8018093.article)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vUIK1GZSduo&feature=youtu.be)
Mr Holcomb’s patents https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)
I may have a time to explain how it works,the logical path of analysis starts when we are looking at patents of Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb.
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb).
We see
-14 recorded patents and applications.
where we exclude:
Patent number: 6776753
Patent number: 7399270
as related to pain treatment/
______________________________________________________
-Patent number: 10008916 is a Type: Grant
High efficiency AC DC electric motor, electric power generating system with variable speed, variable power, geometric isolation and high efficiency conducting elements
 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/10008916)-
 Filed: May 21, 2013   Date of Patent: June 26, 2018   Assignee:  Redemptive Technologies Ltd  Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb

Patent number: 11196331
Compact high-efficiency, low-reverse torque electric power generator driven by a high efficiency electric drive motor (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)Type: Grant  Filed: December 21, 2017   Date of Patent: December 7, 2021   Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb
the rest of records are just patent applications.we also see that first patent
 Filed: May 21, 2013   Date of Patent: June 26, 2018 belongs still to Redemptive Technologies Ltd
link: REDEMPTIVE TECHNOLOGIES LIMITED | ICIJ Offshore … (https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/10207308)https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/10207308 (https://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/10207308)
turns out with error, so we can't claim that we are dealing with company
known from affair of Panama papers money-laundering and unproven financial crime operations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers)
___________________________________________________________

however we are sure that
Patent number: 11196331  Filed: December 21, 2017   Date of Patent: December 7, 2021   Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb
in its history shows:

U.S. Patent Documents U.S. Patent Documents
10008916 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/10008916)  June 26, 2018  Holcomb  20030025420 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20030025420)  February 6, 2003  Noble  20120206002 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20120206002)  August 16, 2012  Holcomb  20120206003 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20120206003)  August 16, 2012  Holcomb  20130002077 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20130002077)  January 3, 2013  Conde Mendez  20190393765 (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20190393765)  December 26, 2019  Holcomb
different last names , where one of them is
-Noble
and another is Conde Mendez

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 03:50:50 AM
Analysis PART 2
analysis of YouTube channel

  Holcomb Energy Systems (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUi_RHRrr80Dsa4cnUJlTAw)   342 subscribers
YouTube channel was created
Joined Jan 31, 2022
1,030,613 views
8 videos.

description:
Holcomb Scientific Research Ltd is a Dublin, Ireland-based research and development company
setting a new industry standard in electric power generation.
The Holcomb Energy System is solid-state, point of use, and requires no fuel.
It is far more affordable than any form of electric power available today
and it puts out no harmful emissions – just 100% clean power.
__________________________________________________

recognized and supported by: Dr. Jan Wulff Interview  Holistic Health  medical doctor, from our Global Launch Party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAzahOni1n0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAzahOni1n0)
 :)
for me it looks like set of commercial videos having elements of green movement, suffering nature, climate change and proposition of inventor own solution into those problems.
At best of my understanding his videos states that you still need a power source from which you can gain at least 50% of power out.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 04:09:13 AM
please start reading from part number one
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565761/#msg565761 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565761/#msg565761)



Analysis PART 3
logical conclusions from listed patents of Inventor
: Robert Ray Holcomb

___________________________________________
High efficiency AC DC electric motor, electric power generating system with variable speed, variable power, geometric isolation and high efficiency conducting elements (https://patents.justia.com/patent/10008916)Patent number:  10008916
 Type: Grant   Filed: May 21, 2013   Date of Patent: June 26, 2018   Assignee: Redemptive Technologies Ltd   Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb
was the base for any further activity.
I suggest to start analyzing this patent first.

_______________________________________________________________
  Compact high-efficiency, low-reverse torque electric power generator driven by a high efficiency electric drive motor (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)    Patent number: 11196331
 Type: Grant   Filed: December 21, 2017   Date of Patent: December 7, 2021   Inventor: Robert Ray Holcomb

this patent says that some sort of generator is driven by some sort of electric motor.
___________________________________________________________________
conclusion:
inventor was trying different approaches.
one of them was:
  TURBOFAN JET ENGINE, POWERED BY AN ELECTRIC MOTOR WITH POWER FROM A HIGH EFFICIENCY ELECTRIC GENERATOR (https://patents.justia.com/patent/20200052570)    Publication number: 20200052570
but all of them or most of them are in or about rotary motion, however extraordinary claims shown on his video channels shows only Stater without the rotor and that is enough to do the trick,
For your own analysis of inventor patents and applications please go to
https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb (https://patents.justia.com/inventor/robert-ray-holcomb)
Patents by Inventor Robert Ray Holcomb
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 16, 2022, 07:10:06 AM
the differance between the potential of the nutral and earth  ?
Exactly. Only no disconnection from the power grid. All with the usual standard connection.
You know that there is always a difference in a somewhat volt . Power grids is not ideal.
If you're lucky,you can make a hundred  watts from there . :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 16, 2022, 04:12:45 PM
please start reading from part number one
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565761/#msg565761 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg565761/#msg565761)



Analysis PART 4
logical conclusions from listed patents of Inventor section number two: Robert Ray Holcomb

I'm working on it
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lukaszkwiatkowskii on April 17, 2022, 05:24:15 PM
To jest patent prostszy konstrukcyjnie w stosunku do innych jego konstrukcji.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050087989A1
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2022, 08:30:00 PM
To jest patent prostszy konstrukcyjnie w stosunku do innych jego konstrukcji.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050087989A1 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20050087989A1)
Application US10/694,326
events   
2003-10-27Application filed by Robert Holcomb
2003-10-27 Priority to US10/694,3262005-02-22 Assigned to HOLCOMB HEALTHCARE SERVICES, LLC
2005-04-28Publication of US20050087989A12005-09-12 Assigned to HOLCOMB HEALTHCARE SERVICES, LLC
2008-03-21Assigned to DEMETER SYSTEMS, LLC
Status Abandoned


The more I dig into this inventor activity the more I have problems with his publications and its value.One of the links although inactive shows  possible connection with a "fear" of Panama papers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers)


High efficiency AC DC electric motor, electric power generating system with variable speed, variable power, geometric isolation and high efficiency conducting elements (https://patents.justia.com/patent/10008916)  Patent number: 10008916


One related patent
Compact high-efficiency, low-reverse torque electric power generator driven by a high efficiency electric drive motor (https://patents.justia.com/patent/11196331)   Patent number: 11196331
And the rest of his other publications are just the applications.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 04, 2022, 05:39:56 PM
How can I find this Anzor?
I hope he is alive and well.
https://patentdb.ru/author/1090142 (https://patentdb.ru/author/1090142)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 06, 2022, 08:49:00 PM
I trust you are doing well and enjoying your microscopes.
not that well but well enough.
some small things. One of them uses Ln2
for that there is a Ln2 farm   and inconvenience of Dewar  (  A cryogenic storage dewar )

 
In your Kapanadze forum there used to be a section explaining the magnetic device
a man made that uses a frame for inducing magnetic flux circuit from two permanent magnets and modulating giant magnetostrictive medium as to field switch between magnets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxob3yY4LE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNxob3yY4LE)
Ted Annis


I'm mentioning The  mechanical device of
Aldo Costa
https://www.wired.com/2004/12/reinventing-the-wheel/ (https://www.wired.com/2004/12/reinventing-the-wheel/)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsBplmMDcRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsBplmMDcRQ)
as an example of failure  of concept.
Perpetual motion  doesn't exist and it consumes all energy in the system plus losses.
The failure  is in application.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on June 06, 2022, 09:10:09 PM
Or perhaps it's more a case of the exploit of energy in metalic wast like aluminium and or brass
both TK device and SM used them both all you aparantly have to do is break it down with magnetic impulses.

Re http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g.

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 09, 2022, 03:23:36 PM
  Re: Local Hidden Variables - For the Win? Not 101st bad idea? (https://overunity.com/19139/local-hidden-variables-for-the-win-not-101st-bad-idea/msg567890/#msg567890)  « Reply #6 on: Today at 03:26:14 AM
 I did respond . Look at the link  attached.

You made few comments in different topics.
I admit that  this response  of mine is  made without reading your comment from above ( as I'm preoccupied  with other tasks)
I do apologize  for it
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 16, 2022, 11:10:18 PM
The Schumann waveguide concept... I am // a bit concerned about lightening.
With your waveguide coupling experiments, have you had any issues with lightening or emp events?
I assume that you were talking about was lightning.
And you were also talking about EMP.
________________________________________
as far as lightning- it is just an element in energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
This requires little explanation:Technology of Dr. James Corum is about sending energy from point A to point B using earth/air interface.
So does Tesla coil with  properly adjusted height of top capacitor,  till it tunes into complex Brewster angle.

Note:
Complex Brewster angle.- is not just a Brewster angle alone - it is complex phenomena based on Brewster angle.
resulting electromagnetic energy from Tesla tower to tilt towards the earth/air interface where this wave is trapped
without reflection and refraction .
Although that interface is two-dimensional  for our eyes, it acts as a waveguide for electromagnetic wave.
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides, nor to it's special form the interface.


Electromagnetic wave at any frequency theoretically will always fall into the interface under special condition:
the Complex Brewster Angle.
Forming conditions suitable for complex Brewster angle is however little different for low and high very high frequencies
We are operating at very low frequencies known as VLF.
it is much easier to work with them.
Then that wave has different names and we can name it surface plasmon polariton,
but that still will be the same Zenneck wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=372s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=372s)
________________________________________

method of extracting energy from Schumann Waveguide is exactly the same as sending energy from point A to point B
the only difference is that we don't have a transmitter that is transmitting energy.
We only have receiver.
The receiver is exactly the same as the one used by Dr. James Corum,
and this is exactly the same Tesla tower.
The only difference is progress of operation. Means number winds of the Tesla coil and the elevation of top capacitor.
for lighting we have certain probability that the electromagnetic wave 
by lightning hits the interface and the Complex Brewster Angle.
We have 1.4 billion flashes per year.
most of them deposits its energy into the earth
Earth is one of components of the earth/air interface.
It is not important where on the earth  the lightning hits.

-one lightning creates avalanche of lightning around the globe.But all of those lightnings hits the interface.
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides  and frequencies are extremely low.
Humanity didn't know it because it's a dynamic structure and to know that this energy is there you need the receiver.
The bird sitting on the high-voltage line doesn't know that it may become a receiver if it spreads the legs far enough.
Before  Marconi people didn't know that they can receive electromagnetic energy .
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on June 16, 2022, 11:22:44 PM
The Schumann waveguide//experiments, have you had any issues with  emp ?
I assume you are talking about EMP.
Wesley
it was not an  issues it was an application.
If you look at it Dr. (James Corum structure) we see points A and B.In the James Corum application
– A is our TX
– B is our RX
both of them are identical.
But this identity is seen not by the RX physical look but  by the RX matching electrical property of TX.
So for easiness we are scanning with portable TX some structure!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
until we see that this structure is matching a condition for becoming RX.
Then we doing some additional tuning.
and now you're ready - we are sending EMP
______________________________________________
the structure doesn't have to be a tower, or building, it can be
for example big heavy vehicle on tracks or some sort of vehicle (if we have tires than tires separates the two plates of capacitor)
the top plate ( vehicle body) and the ground. :) However than you need more juice from TX   
or group of vehicles on tracks  but unfortunately at its present form during the process of "chewing" <it> cannot move
yes it can be a plant, storage, Arsenal, armory, storing "metal cylinders or cylindrical objects "  ,of some sort.
some specialized electronic igniters are tragically sensitive to EMP.
but it is not EMP that caught my attention rather that it is high-voltage at RX.

think of it as a coil that has inductive reactance but is ended with top plate that is on the top that is capacitively interacting
with respect to the - ground constituting second plate, in this dynamic system (and as I said RX TX is a dynamic pair) the true nature of C
can be seen in Smith chart.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on June 18, 2022, 10:26:23 AM
Question for connoisseurs. Oscillograms at the terminals of the motors. The motor is connected to a power source through 40 ohms, the voltage in both cases is 5 volts. The engine is from the VM12 video recorder
makes by eye, ten times more revolutions than from VCR Electronics508. The oscillograms were taken with the same sweep time.
Which motor has more poles?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on June 21, 2022, 03:51:56 AM
It would appear the top oscillogram has more poles even though the bottom seems to have slight more compressions and rarefactions per the grid.  The top has some cancellation from the sweep resonance so could have a harmonic multiple more poles.

Just a guess anyways...

Wesley,
My question is with the deep dive you have made into the Schumann wave guide transmission and harvesting, have you had any serious overvoltage/current events from drawing too fast such as a lightening strike?

Thanks,
Mick
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on June 29, 2022, 02:42:59 PM
Hello friends!


Why have they forgotten what Tariel Kapanadze himself said?
Why did they forget about cylinders and pressure gauges in his various videos?


2 times Kapanadze pointed out that this effect was found in the study of the effects of gravity, antigravity.


1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xplzL0cpKz4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xplzL0cpKz4)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_pump (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gear_pump)


2.
https://youtu.be/eF0nQTXSJh8?t=85 (https://youtu.be/eF0nQTXSJh8?t=85)


"How did you yourself come to this discovery?
             - To be honest, we worked on a different topic.
This happened by accident?
             - Yes, it happened quite by accident. We were working on anti-gravity. And there was such an effect that we were very surprised.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on June 30, 2022, 03:22:53 PM
Fraudster Kapanadze rotated the flywheel with a hydraulic motor, do you think? >:(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on July 01, 2022, 11:41:45 AM


Hello!


Why "fraudster"?

Energy is produced by something inside a thick platform on which a structure of flywheels and springs is assembled.
Flywheels are just the tip of the iceberg.
Why do flywheels rotate? Witchcraft? No.


What is the function of flywheels?


Pay attention to the layer of white construction foam. Foam dampens vibrations well.

Why did Tariel have such a big problem with vibration?

Old video of Theophilius who visited Kapanadze in 2011.
https://youtu.be/M2-8HkawRHo?t=231 (https://youtu.be/M2-8HkawRHo?t=231)

He brought a diagram of the mechanical version.
There is a charging pump and a hydraulic motor.
According to the hydraulic symbols, the pump rotates in one direction, the motor can rotate in two directions.
Probably the main concept is to create cycles of compression and rarefaction in the water+.. .
It can be assumed that the hydraulic motor in the previous installation is connected to one flywheel, the hydraulic pump to another.

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg272350/#msg272350 (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg272350/#msg272350)
The oil seems to act as a cooling agent.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on July 01, 2022, 01:08:30 PM
Why "fraudster"?
Well, I didn't get it right away.

Quote
Energy is produced by something inside a thick platform on which a structure of flywheels and springs is assembled.
Flywheels are just the tip of the iceberg.
Why do flywheels rotate? Witchcraft? No.
What is the function of flywheels?
Maybe this ? Already posted a hundred times.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on July 01, 2022, 03:41:43 PM

Maybe this ? Already posted a hundred times.



This is a description of a perpetual motion machine.
Unsuitable. Useless.


There must be a source of energy.
Everything that does not have an energy source is a fake.


By the way, Kapanadze himself stated that the effect is somehow connected with the study of gravity or antigravity.
"We stumbled upon the effect while studying antigravity" (see my previous post for exact quotes on this)
"We" - this could mean people from the organization where he worked.
Not Kapanadze himself, but someone from the team.


If Kapanadze worked at the "Gruzgiprovodhoz" Institute, which designs water systems for irrigation or water disposal and the like, what kind of antigravity can we talk about there?


But you will be surprised, such organizations also have patents related to gravity.


Look in the Georgian patent database for the word "gravity".
https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/ka/search_engine/search/1/ (https://www.sakpatenti.gov.ge/ka/search_engine/search/1/)

Better search in Georgian language.
"Abstract"  - 7th line in the list


But this is not at all about what the inventors of perpetual motion would think. ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 07, 2022, 04:49:37 PM
some links to be memorized:
  1. https://www.academia.edu/33662240/Some_Notes_on_Transmission_Line_Representations_of_Teslas_Transmitters (https://www.academia.edu/33662240/Some_Notes_on_Transmission_Line_Representations_of_Teslas_Transmitters)
Some Notes on Transmission Line Representations of Tesla’s Transmitters
Zoran Blažević1, Dragan Poljak 21,2
University of Split, Faculty of Electrical Engineering, Mechanical Engineering and Naval Architecture, Split, Croatia.1
zblaz@fesb.hr,2 dpoljak@fesb.hr 

2. https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/basic-hypotheticals-of-an-emp.460607/ (https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/basic-hypotheticals-of-an-emp.460607/)
Related Threads on Basic hypotheticals of an EMP

3. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4050644?arnumber=4050644 (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/4050644?arnumber=4050644)
Synthesis of Passive RC Networks with Gains Greater than Unity

4. https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852/rlc-filter-as-amplifier (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852/rlc-filter-as-amplifier)
RLC filter as amplifier? (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/239852/rlc-filter-as-amplifier)  is it possible that a RLC filter works as an amplifier?
If it works at resonant frequency, then the output will be greater than the input.

5. https://www.oldfriend.url.tw/article/IEEE_paper/Synthesis%20of%20Passive%20RC%20Networks%20with%20Gains.pdf (https://www.oldfriend.url.tw/article/IEEE_paper/Synthesis%20of%20Passive%20RC%20Networks%20with%20Gains.pdf)
PROCEEDINGS OF THE I.R.E.
Synthesis of Passive RC Networks with Gains Greater
than Unity*
HERMAN EPSTEINT, STUDENT, IRE

6. https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019118025A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019118025A1/en)
Earth-ionosphere waveguide power transfer
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10852333B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US10852333B2/en)

7. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/238895523_Extracting_energy_of_surface_wave_from_plasmatic_waveguide (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/238895523_Extracting_energy_of_surface_wave_from_plasmatic_waveguide)
Extracting energy of surface wave from plasmatic waveguide September 1984
Radiophysics and Quantum Electronics (https://www.researchgate.net/journal/Radiophysics-and-Quantum-Electronics-1573-9120) 27(9):833-838
DOI:10.1007/BF01041394 (http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF01041394)
8. https://clgiles.ist.psu.edu/pubs/brewster-magnetic.pdf (https://clgiles.ist.psu.edu/pubs/brewster-magnetic.pdf)
International Journal of Infrared and Millimeter Waves, VoL 6, No. 3, t985
BREWSTER ANGLES FOR M A G N E T I C MEDIA
C. Lee Giles* and Walter J. Wild**
Optical Sciences C e n t e r
U n i v e r s i t y o f A r i z o n a
Tucson, A r i z o n a 85721
Received November 22, 1984

9. http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/resonating.htm#:~:text=Wireless%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20 (http://www.teslaradio.com/pages/resonating.htm#:~:text=Wireless%20Transmission%20of%20Power%20)
Resonating%20Planet%20Earth%20Tesla%27s,the%20first%20cyclotron%20%281931%29.%20WIRELESS%20TRANSMISSION%20OF%20POWER
Resonating Planet Earth
Toby Grotz
Theoretical Electromagnetic Studies and Learning Association, Inc.
522 West Third StreetLeadville, CO 80461(719) 486-0133

10. https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-14/waveguides/ (https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/textbook/alternating-current/chpt-14/waveguides/)
Waveguides
Chapter 14 - Transmission Lines

11. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_wall_accelerator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_wall_accelerator)
Dielectric wall accelerator

12. https://demonstrations.wolfram.com/DielectricSphereInAUniformElectricField/ (https://demonstrations.wolfram.com/DielectricSphereInAUniformElectricField/)
Dielectric Sphere in a Uniform Electric
Field
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/329800/induced-electric-field-in-dielectric (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/329800/induced-electric-field-in-dielectric)
Induced electric field in dielectric

13.https://ericpdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/ (https://ericpdollard.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/)
electromagneticinductionanditspropagation.pdf#:~:text=Conversely%2C%20the%20dielectric%20field%20of%20induction%20forces%20itself,
that%20is%2C%20potential%20energy%20in%20a%20dielectric%20form.
ELECTROMAGNETIC INDUCTION
AND ITS PROPAGATION
by Eric P. Dollard
Copyright 2014
note:don't take it to seriously.

14.https://www.globalspec.com/industrial-directory/high_temperature_proximity_switches (https://www.globalspec.com/industrial-directory/high_temperature_proximity_switches)
High Temperature Proximity Switches

15. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_angle_microscope (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_angle_microscope)
Brewster angle microscope

16.https://docslib.org/doc/1629992/simple-transmission-line-representation-of-tesla-coil-and-teslas-wave-propagation-concept (https://docslib.org/doc/1629992/simple-transmission-line-representation-of-tesla-coil-and-teslas-wave-propagation-concept)
Simple Transmission Line Representation of Tesla Coil
and Tesla’s Wave Propagation Concept
Zoran Blaževi
1, Dragan Poljak2 Mario Cvetković3

17. https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdf (https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdf)
Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) Radio Wave Propagation:
A review
A.P. Nikolayenko1, A. Shvets1, and M. Hayakawa2
1Usikov Institute for Radio-Physics and Electronics, National Academy of Sciences of the Ukraine, Kharkov,
Proskura st. 12, 61085, Ukraine
2) The University of Electro-Communications, Advanced Wireless & Communications research Center, 1-5-1
Chofugaoka, Chofu Tokyo 182-8585, Japan
18.https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060190512A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060190512A1/en)
Electrical power multiplication InventorJames Corum (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=James+Corum) Current Assignee  CPG Technologies LLC

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060190511A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060190511A1/en) (second link)

18. http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring13/atmo589/ATMO489_online/lecture_1/lect1_global_elec_circuit.html (http://www.atmo.arizona.edu/students/courselinks/spring13/atmo589/ATMO489_online/lecture_1/lect1_global_elec_circuit.html)
global atmospheric electrical circuit.


19.https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q= (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q=)
regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar
Site preparation for guided surface wave transmission in a lossy media 
James F. Corum
 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar#)Kenneth L. Corum (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar#)Basil F. Pinzone, Jr. (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar#)James D. Lilly (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=James+D.+Lilly&scholar)Stephen W. Wilson (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20180166762A1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar#)
Current Assignee  CPG Technologies LLC

20.https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2932558B1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar (https://patents.google.com/patent/EP2932558B1/en?q=regions&q=site&q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar)
Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media  media
InventorJames F. Corum (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=James+F.+Corum&scholar)Kenneth L. CORUM (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Kenneth+L.+CORUM&scholar) Current Assignee  CPG Technologies LLC note:
in link :
https://patents.google.com/?q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar (https://patents.google.com/?q=guided&q=wave+transmission&q=lossy+media&before=priority:20160309&scholar)
in the top window place test:
(guided) (wave transmission) (lossy media) before:priority:20160309

21:
other:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Shota+Kapanadze (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Shota+Kapanadze)

22.https://patents.google.com/patent/US11150038B1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US11150038B1/en)
Electromagnetic waveguide based thermal energy extraction with emissive materials and modifications

23.https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2517378C1/enResonance)
power amplifier Russian:
may or may not be valuable, - needs to be evaluated as everything that is Russian origin.
Concept known from American magnetic amplifiers from 50ties.
Russians may just deform original design and submit it as their own.
the best joke of "some Russians"  is : "I'm innocent"
https://youtu.be/l4XTAwu668M?t=108 (https://youtu.be/l4XTAwu668M?t=108) (in russian)
English subtitles . ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER




 :)
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 09, 2022, 08:09:43 PM
3.You didn't respond regarding Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
Is he also crook?
From where is coming energy gain described in 2 attached papers below this message?
4.Any comments on Strebkov patent from my previous post? COP in patent example is 5,4.  1kW in- 5,4kW out at 50Hz. See attached below.
Cheers,
Pix

we going to discuss first:
Xiaodong Liu papers on energy multiplication in retarded resonance.
paper in question is:

– [3] Qichang Liang, Yu Liang, Xiaodong Liu, Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance,
April 2011, http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf (http://www.vixra.org/pdf/1104.0052v1.pdf)
______________________________________________________
quote .1
Quote
source absorb energy instead of output energy when the distance
between the source and receiver is ¼ of wavelength.
Such a system is an energy multiplier.
quote .2
Quote
In retarded resonance with distance of quarter wavelength, the receiver gains energy via EMF from the source and the source also gains energy via EMF from the receiver. This system becomes an energy multiplier.
quote .3
Quote
In retarded resonance, the energy extracted from the source is determined by the retarded phase on the route. When the distance between the source and the receiver is ¼ of wavelength, the extracted energy from the source is negative. In that case, the source supplies EMF to the receiver without energy delivered. In the mean while, the current in receiver feed EMF back to source with inverted phase resulting to energy absorption in the source. The total energy of the system is increased since both source and receiver gain energy.

analysis of the source:
.1 is credible paper with credible scientists from credible institution, But!!!

Energy Multiplier in Retarded Resonance Qichang Liang1 , Yu Liang2 , Xiaodong Liu1* 1. Department of Nuclear Physics, China Institute of Atomic Energy, P.O. Box 275(10), Beijing 102413, China 2. Pangeo Corporation, 2005 Black Acre Dr., Oldcastle ON, N0R 1L0, Canada * Corresponding Author, Email: liuxiaod@gmail.com
But!!!
Pangeo Corporation,is actually Canadian cable manufacturing company.
https://panjiva.com/Pangeo-Cable-Industries-Ltd/1212770 (https://panjiva.com/Pangeo-Cable-Industries-Ltd/1212770)
look at their shipment note table. it's likely in other Chinese from Canada trading:
Fish Plates,  Washer Screws Caed, screws –Cable Parts.

-----------------------------------------
–so Canadian entity is just not important for us business – another Chinese.
–Qichang Liang1 , Yu Liang2 , Xiaodong Liu1* were not found listed as
 employees and/or representatives of Institute of Atomic Energy, Beijing 102413, China
 and address is P.O. Box 275(10),
- papers  published might use shell with or without representation.
-scientific title e.g PhD, is not published along with names.
– papers are from 2011, – no scientific community feedback was found.
quote:
Quote
Acknowledgement Special thanks to Mrs. Yulan Yao, Mr. Jian Liang, and Mr. Fengjun Zang for their encouragements and financial support to this work.
explains that this was the job done by a student.

-----------------------------------------
analysis of the paper:
Chinese researchers states:
generator sends energy to connected  loop antenna.
that energy in the form of EM wave, is received by another loop antenna, connected to capacitor;
that makes it resonance circuit-antenna in resonance
Receiving antenna, is at the distance of one quarter (1/4) of wavelength – still in Near Field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field)

receiver antenna sends this energy back to transmitter antenna
and that multiplies energy in total.
 
-----------------------------------------------------
so from the Chinese paper standpoint this could be
used as energy generating device.
example:
100W is multiplied by a factor of 2 excluding losses, and multiplied again.

 

Conclusion:
It sounds like a nonsense.
Source of additional energy use for multiplications the energy coming from generator.
But if you disconnect generator from the outlet
in the middle of the process
that all multiplication is gone.
100 W from the outlet cannot turn magically into 1000 W.
but
there are plenty of other papers from other guys
talking about the same sort  of something , that must be
pushing them to investigate it and publish it.
I'm going to closely look and those other papers
and give you my feedback.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on July 10, 2022, 07:55:09 PM
So why would we want to do that when everything on the Dally thread talks about gain at
quarter wave length yet the grenade coil does not do this now does any of it work.

I'm sure this would help every one on here!

Regards Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 31, 2022, 12:42:11 AM
Explanation how 4 points formula describes most of the devices in question.

Question:
What the energy comes from.?
Most of people want to understand quickly the summary of  given processes
 in topic:
 Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world  (https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg569362/#msg569362)  « Reply #1152 on: July 30, 2022, 10:38:50 PM »
I used simple template and here I'm explaining how
to use it taking energy Extraction From Schumann Waveguide
as an example: 

________________________________________________________
Format of the Template:
Please explain energy conversion process.
 in this format:
1. - initial energy form and its source.

2. - in few words describe process of conversion

3. - energy form at OUTPUT of the device.

4. -  please compare the initial energy used vs energy at output in units. 

add1.
initial energy comes from Schumann waveguide.
The source of this energy is energy fluctuation in the waveguide.

add2.
When electromagnetic wave  due to lightning discharge deposits its energy in the earth/ air interface at complex Brewster angle,
this energy in TM mode can be extracted using Tesla coil with adjusted Top Capacitor acting as a receiver.

add3.
Output energy from Tesla coil low voltage winding = energy deposited in the interface  minus loses.

add4.
The lower the frequency the lower the losses.
Loses are not important to us as all energy in the interface is delivered by nature
note:
attenuation of the free space doesn't apply to waveguides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss# (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss#:~:text=In%20telecommunication%2C%20the%20free-space%20path%20loss%20%28FSPL%29%20is,obstacle-free%2C%20line-of-sight%20path%20through%20free%20space%20%28usually%20air%29.)
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law

 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law#:~:text=In%20science%2C%20an%20inverse-square%20law%20is%20any%20scientific,dilution%20corresponding%20to%20point-source%20radiation%20into%20three-dimensional%20space.)earth/air interface is waveguide for Zenneck wave.Depends form the frequency 
Zenneck wave can have different names and forms of excitation  but all of it represents the same phenomena
explained here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s) .
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on July 31, 2022, 02:49:36 PM
Finally someone said this!  :)
Thanks Stivep for boiling it down to 4 exact points.

a) Tesla coil is acting like a probe inside waveguide.
b) Important is top terminal height, it should be movable to addjust to proper angle.
c) In my opinion VIZIV has been put down intentionally once investors and notable board
    of directors realised it is not only for transmiting power wirelessly by Zenneck surface wave,
    but towers intercept extra power from Schumann waveguide frequencies.
d) someone trying duplicate and build Tesla receiver will be immediately spotted and propably will face troubles, as this is quite visible thing.
e) what power could be drawn from single Tesla receiver of not so big size? Any idea?


PS.
I am in process of duplication Strebkov  exact setup for resonant transformer, still waiting for 1kVA autotransformer
and 380/220v isolation toroidal transformers. Already have capacitors.
Give feedback of my results.

Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 31, 2022, 06:49:00 PM
“Try to think of it as fallow .
example of thinking pattern :
Electromagnetic Wave was unknown to humanity , because there was no receiver invented.
Think about human animal walking since its evolution on the earth not knowing that
earth is one of two components of 2D waveguide made from air-the dielectric and Earth -the lossy conductor.
And this structure (like any other 2D waveguide) is a medium for energy from natural source present there in TM mode.


So no naturally present electromagnetic wave was never received and in time of Nikola Tesla and Marconi
it was just speculation around  purpose of Tesla's  Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917),

Many people were looking at lightning's, but thinking about energy fluctuation in atmosphere
nobody ever thought about Schumann waveguide and Schumann resonances,
Quote
global electromagnetic resonances (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance),  generated and excited by lightning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning) discharges in the cavity formed by the Earth's surface and the ionosphere (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionosphere).[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-1)
predicted  by Winfried Otto Schumann.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann)
until measurements made by Balser and Wagner in 1960–1963[18] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-Balser_Wagner_a-18)[19] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-Balser_Wagner_b-19)[20] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-Balser_Wagner_c-20)[21] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-Balser_Wagner_d-21)[22] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schumann_resonances#cite_note-Balser_Wagner_e-22)

________________________________________________

In 1908 Dr. Zenneck  based on Tesla and Marconi created basis for waves trapped in very special waveguide
the interface. https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=99 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=99)
It was also a time of Arnold Sommerfeld  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld)
and birth of something very exotic at that time:
Quote
Sommerfeld and Zenneck wave propagation for a finitely conducting one-dimensional rough surface
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/898782 (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/898782)


Dr. Goubau in 1950, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line)

Quote
based on work on surface waves on wires from 1899
by Arnold Sommerfeld (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Sommerfeld).[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line#cite_note-Sommerfeld-7)[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line#cite_note-Stulle-8) used as a feedline (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feedline) at UHF (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrahigh_frequency) to link high frequency transmitters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transmitter)
and receivers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_receiver) to their antennas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_(radio)),[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line#cite_note-Straw-2)[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line#cite_note-Lieberman-3) and in scientific research.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line#cite_note-Stulle-8)


In  July 23, 1986 Dr James Corum  gave me (The young man) basis to  my own research.
Electromagnetic structure and method (https://patents.justia.com/patent/4751515)  Patent number: 4751515
In 2006    Dr James Corum having no money filed his provisional patent application

In 2014-02-28 Dr James Corum  started to shine.
EXCITATION AND USE OF GUIDED SURFACE WAVE MODES ON LOSSY MEDIA
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/en)

________________________________________________

In 2010 I as very much grown man started my own research that today is own by me, and partially
released to the public without any patents, but level of release is based on my partner in research
due to his contribution and based on  gentleman agreement.
-often criticized by some oil/gas delivery based Far Eastern Europe terror Rashists and their puppets.

it is Extraction of Energy  from Schumann waveguide.



________________________________________________

summary:

If you collect all individual raindrops, in one surface you'll likely flood it.
Earth/air interface as a highway, is affected by energy  entering to it under condition of complex Brewster angle.
Bird at HV power line doesn't get electrocuted if its legs distance is relatively small.
Human can be affected by Step Potential - the voltage between the feet on the earth but not by electromagnetic energy in TM mode
trapped in the interface in ELF frequency band.
The EARTH is one of two elements of interface and you are walking on it.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw&t=352s)
The receiver based on Tesla coil can receive this energy.
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU  (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on July 31, 2022, 08:03:56 PM
Hi Stivep,
1. How much power could be collected by single Tesla receiver of height, let's say 20m?
2. What frequency that Tesla receiver should be tuned to? I can't imagine size of Tesla receiver tuned to  fundamental 7 or 14 Hz.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on July 31, 2022, 08:23:40 PM
Hi Stivep,
1. How much power could be collected by single Tesla receiver of height, let's say 20m?
2. What frequency that Tesla receiver should be tuned to? I can't imagine size of Tesla receiver tuned to  fundamental 7 or 14 Hz.


Cheers,
Pix
height is not important. elevation of top capacitor is.
We experimented with  energy transfer (based on Dr Corum  A to B) in range of ~5km and a distance from New York to Los Angeles
with 1W at 86 to 95% of efficiency, but at given conditions.
So losses are very small at 17kHz.
That means that unknown to me level of energy from Schumann waveguide entering Interface is almost totally available
at the output of receiver.
My partner in research connected 0.5 W load and than 1000W load purely resistive.!!

And that is important as system is dynamic in nature and INTERFACE is only a "highway"
that appears to be empty as there is no traffic on it.

That means current is drown based on power dissipated in the load.
Interface is not a battery and is not energy storage.!!!!
If there is no load than there is no energy usage but "highway" is there ready to transfer
unlimited amount of energy available in the system.

______________________________________
picture from the bottom:
h -is height of top capacitor.
if the height is small, the Complex Brewster Angle point entering interface is closer to Tesla coil and its
top capacitor,

So the limitation of height is important mostly from perspective of unintended sparking due to dielectric constant of the Air.
- Mostly noticed if we try A to B by Dr James Corum.

second picture from the bottom:
DYNAMIC reactive system

rope - simulates interface
the boy in Dr James Corum A to B acts as transmitter or   in my application as  Energy Source from Schumann waveguide
the girl  acts as a receiver with the load.
Assuming that energy source is strong enough it can give as much energy as receiver is able to pull (dissipate)

I hope it helps.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 03, 2022, 07:34:16 PM

Quote
Hi Wesley,

Have you seen the new Rigol VNA's, if so any opinion?

https://www.rigolna.com/vna/ (https://www.rigolna.com/vna/)
The key is not in that what they advertise but with that  what they are trying hide
it is not Vector Network Analyzer, it is spectrum analyzer with VNA features added.

cons:
.1
I was always trying to avoid "combines" the multi-functional machines.
In 80s in your country it was very popular to have radio with tape recorder, TV, and CD player.
None of the single modules, was as good as if it was standalone.
When something went wrong you lost all of them.


.2
The RSA3000N
https://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-9276de63-fd6d-4e04-b9ba-ceb899ccb617/0/-/-/-/-/RSA3000E_%20Datasheet_201908-EN.pdf (https://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-9276de63-fd6d-4e04-b9ba-ceb899ccb617/0/-/-/-/-/RSA3000E_%20Datasheet_201908-EN.pdf)

Has :
tracking generator working from: 100 kHz to 3.0 GHz (RSA3030E-TG )
the VSWR : 300 kHz to 3.0 GHz
________________________________________________

All of our operations are at or below 100 kHz.
So the The VNA  addition is useless for  our research.
Waste of your time and money.


Recommended:
HP 4194A is around  40  years old, and is much better for us than the  Rigol.
at that time there was no VNA's yet.
it is gain phase analyzer and in addition gives you impedance measurement.
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/impedanceanalyzers/4194a.htm (https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/impedanceanalyzers/4194a.htm)
https://exality.com/beautiful-hp-4194a-plots/ (https://exality.com/beautiful-hp-4194a-plots/)
https://manualmachine.com/hp/agilent4194a/1274702-user-manual/ (https://manualmachine.com/hp/agilent4194a/1274702-user-manual/)



Advantest R3754B  is excellent and fast as "lightning"
https://testequipment.center/Products/Advantest-R3754B (https://testequipment.center/Products/Advantest-R3754B)
https://www3.advantest.com/documents/11348/146302/pdf_Catalog_R3754A_R3754B_jp.pdf (https://www3.advantest.com/documents/11348/146302/pdf_Catalog_R3754A_R3754B_jp.pdf)

HP 8753D 30kHz- 6GHz great tool but unfortunately doesn't go lower than 30 kHz.
note: when buying HP 8753D:
Make sure that it does have starting 30 kHz not 300 kHz lower frequency.
Make sure that it looks exactly like this:
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/networkanalyzers/8753d.htm (https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/networkanalyzers/8753d.htm)

Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on August 06, 2022, 05:30:17 PM
 Holcomb Energy System appears to be a "Don Smith" device which he described in his later videos--Even his
suitcase model--though it contained a small battery--would power 1000 watts,it would also recharge the small battery
within.Don Smith had many "secret" contracts he could not reveal.His suitcase device,he admitted,was "1900's
technology" compared to what they already had at the time (circa 1998). At that time they had devices
running in the 5 GHZ range,which seems to point to the "5G" network we now have today. He had to teach his
lessons in Europe and Asia because American Institutions would not grant him patents nor listen to what he had.
Same with Joseph Newman--American Companies would not listen,made them spend their money,gave nothing
in return.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 08, 2022, 07:47:21 PM
Does anyone here have data on the circuits or devices Tesla was using for his magnetometers?

I assume he likely built his own like on page 25 C.S.N. however at first he was perhaps buying something off the shelf also.

Does anyone know what the tech off the shelf in 1899 was for a magnetometer?

I am looking for the tech before the fluxgate and after the Gauss swinging magnet.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 10, 2022, 01:06:54 AM
Classified military testing often requires entire testing device to be destroyed.
It is Switzerland made jewel, and I  was lucky
It was approved to be saved. look at picture
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 10, 2022, 01:09:08 AM
Here you have explanation what is what
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 10, 2022, 08:06:01 PM
stivep
Quote
Often, science is presented as trafficking in absolute truths.
On the contrary, science is a framework for interpreting, systematizing, and predicting nature based on empirical observations.
That is to say, a well accepted ‘theory’ (framework for understanding/predicting nature)
can always be upended with sufficiently compelling contrary evidence.

I would agree and we still have a lot to learn...

For example, the property of inertia is usually missing in most models and generally lumped together with mass as if they were the same thing.
It's problematic because there are only two logical results...
1)the mass was acted on by an external influence and space cannot be empty as supposed.
2)the mass has acted on itself in some way violating multiple laws of science.

I came to this conclusion in a way similar to Richard Feynman's first principals...
https://blog.dtssydney.com/richard-feynmans-principles-of-scientific-thinking

As Feynman implies, not so much science but common sense and describing the evidence without regard to the way we feel it should be.
As such the logic involved in explaining inertia is littered with contradictions.
We cannot call "inertia" a property (a quality of something) and have no explanation of what it is or how it came to be.
The term "property" implies said quality must be due to some influence in which we have two choices, 1)internal or 2)external.

Which comes full circle back to the two initial options...
1)the mass was acted on by an external influence and space cannot be empty as supposed.
2)the mass has acted on itself in some way violating multiple laws in science.

Generally speaking whenever an argument becomes circular, ie. the supposed answer contradicts the actual question, were in trouble. That's the wonderful thing about science because there's never a shortage of questions to be asked...

Regards
AC


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 10, 2022, 11:12:14 PM
For example, the property of inertia is usually missing in most models and generally lumped together with mass as if they were the same thing.
As Feynman implies, not so much science but common sense and describing the evidence without regard to the way we feel it should be.
AC

Talking about inertia:
In  mostly classical physics  it is common opinion: (common sense )
"that there is no “problem of inertia”, on the grounds that either
-no explanation is needed for such phenomena or
- the explanation is already at hand."
just because e.g law of inertia, in one form or another, was already used before them by such people as Galileo , Descartes.
-but common opinion is just common in relation to elements making it, so it can't be taken as an axiomatic value.
______________________________________________________________________________________________________
Huygens and Leibniz, seen inertial motion as uniform and on a straight line, whatever direction we like it to be in the universe.
Quote
When something is at rest, it tends to stay that way.
In physics inertia is described as "a property of matter
by which it continues in its existing state of motion
in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force."

Barbour’s seen inertial motion as “cosmic drift,” but we do not know whence it comes and what determines its course and it was  year 2001.
-relativity of motion, which makes everything relative to something else.
Some others see a problem between Inertia and Relativity?

Einstein utilized  Gaussian coordinates and differential geometry,  for
"A A B B relativity of revolution relativity, generalized? A B B A
constructing his theory of gravity (usually called “general relativity,” but a caution is necessary for this word). "
https://1library.net/article/what-is-the-problem-with-inertia-and-relativity.y4erlxrq (https://1library.net/article/what-is-the-problem-with-inertia-and-relativity.y4erlxrq)

But because we are interested with energy and inertia
we coming to all kind of rotational machines made by all kinds and all levels experimenters:
 Jeff St. John  August 07, 2020:
https://www.greentechmedia.com/squared/dispatches-from-the-grid-edge/solving-the-renewable-powered-grids-inertia-problem-with-advanced-inverters (https://www.greentechmedia.com/squared/dispatches-from-the-grid-edge/solving-the-renewable-powered-grids-inertia-problem-with-advanced-inverters)
postulating :
Quote
Setting up inverters to augment or mimic that inertial stability.
referring  to virtual inertia  inertia damping generation
 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/B9780128194324000196#:~:text=The%20concept%20of%20virtual%20inertia%20is%20adopted%20from,damping%20and%20high%20nadir%20due%20to%20load%2Fgeneration%20disturbances.)

Quote
South Australia. The 30-megawatt/8-megawatt-hour battery system sits at a substation
serving several towns on a peninsula that also hosts about 90 megawatts of wind farms,
with only a single connection to the mainland.
but it turns out that this is:
Quote
the megawatt-scale inverter operating the ESCRI system and the much smaller inverters
connecting rooftop solar systems to the distribution grid aren’t that different,
So large scale vs small scale at your home obeys the same rules including Inertial motion at individual or summary level.
Aren't we coming back by that to:  "common opinion" (common sense )  from very top of my comment?

That's the wonderful thing about science because there's never a shortage of questions to be asked...
Regards
AC

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on August 11, 2022, 12:53:16 AM
stivep
I prefer Richard Feynman's take on the matter...
"Have no respect whatsoever for authority; forget who said it and instead look what he starts with, where he ends up, and ask yourself, 'Is it reasonable?'". I think Feynman said this because he worked with some of the most intelligent people on the planet, the real authorities, and none of them could agree on anything either. So were in good company...

This is a neat video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjm8JeDKvdc, Feynman's Father and Inertia.

However I don't believe Feynman was asking the right question in the video which should have been why does the ball remain at rest in the first place?. Here most put the cart before the horse and claim it's the conservation on energy but that's not a valid explanation of the event only a concept. The only relevant question is what's inhibiting the motion of the ball in reality, it's inertia and it has no valid explanation which holds up to scrutiny. Either the ball was influenced by something external to itself or it acted on itself.

In any case I'm happy to see we disagree, it means were making progress...

Regards
AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Deep_Purple on August 11, 2022, 11:07:33 AM
Hello,

This is my first post on this forum, although till now I was a silent daily reader over many years.

I like this place because of wise people who are sharing their view, experience. Such wise people have a solid path of logical thinking and they put right questions, indicating that they have a deeper understanding of how nature actually works.  Also, by the way they put such right questions, they generously make you put the brain at work in an effort to intimately try to understand inner mechanisms of things and phenomena around us.

Regarding mass and inertia:

- Mass is not an intrinsec property of matter; mass and inertia are two different things
- Inertia is not an intrinsec property of matter; inertia is an effect and the cause is the external "medium"; actually force of inertia is a hydrodynamical effect that takes place within and caused by the external "medium" (assuming that "medium" is viewd as a fluid)

Regards,
Deep_Purple
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 14, 2022, 11:28:02 PM
Wesley,

I asked before if you had any energy avalanches that were dangerous such as lightening, normal or localized, with your surface wave device?

Due to other experiment I have already had a visit uninvited, not appreciated so have to be prudent in this location.

I recall somewhere on this thread was a pretty straight forward detail of how to build experimental unit, can you please post the pointers?
This thread is very large now.

Thanks
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 15, 2022, 03:30:39 AM
Wesley,
I asked before if you had any energy avalanches that were dangerous such as lightening, normal or localized, with your surface wave device?
no I didn't have.
Locally they are not allowed.
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=587 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=587)
Go to my channel.
 I'm traveling now. I'll respond to rest of your question later.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 18, 2022, 05:25:15 PM
Wesley,

What made you choose the size of your secondary, working with 160 meter amateur radio ?

Somewhere you mentioned as a young man Corum influenced you, did you meet him at a Tesla symposium ?

What is your understanding of the low loss inside the waveguide, normal waveguides have much higher losses than the Corum's claim ?

Thanks for the cool video productions.

Mk
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 18, 2022, 05:46:16 PM
Seems like a perfect harmonic of Schumann albeit very small.  70000/ 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2022, 07:58:05 PM
What made you choose the size of your secondary, working with 160 meter amateur radio ?
It wasn't me but Dr. Corum who started from 144 MHz going down to 50 MHz going down to 1.8 MHz due to his license privileges,
in early stage of  his scientific investigation, of energy transfer from  A to B using surface wave.
Surface wave,  is generalization that includes all of the waves mentioned here including Zenneck Wave
https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=27 (https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=27)
Despite its frequency it is the same phenomena , deferring mostly with  methods  of excitation.   
it is in your own interests to view all videos from  that channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPC6uCfBVSK71MnPPcp8AGA (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPC6uCfBVSK71MnPPcp8AGA)

The core of everything is  in almost never mentioned by me evanescent wave
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evanescent_field)
But it is a very foundation, for educated researcher to understand this:
http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf)
-that excites a pure Zenneck
surface wave with  no radiation field.
1.8 MHz 160 m was just convenient for Dr. James Corum to his publish results
he could use 135.7kilohertz – 137.8kilohertz with 1 W EIRP maximum
before he got the license for 125 kHz https://fcc.report/ELS/Viziv-Technologies-LLC (https://fcc.report/ELS/Viziv-Technologies-LLC)

So there are two factors,
– What Frequency you use for experiment
   and
– What frequency you publish that you used for your experiment ( legal reasons)
My suggestion is for you to deep your knowledge about evanescent waves
and its properties.

For average audience some history:
https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/ (https://www.evangel.edu/press_releases/tesla-wireless-electricity-corum/)
Something more or less important about evanescent waves:
Quote
This phenomenon, known as the evanescent wave, extends only to a short distance from the interface,
with power dropping exponentially with distance.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/evanescent-wave (https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/evanescent-wave)

-but it is exactly matching to the explanation of Zenneck wave in the interface.

The missing part in that quote is that  evanescent wave is seen as  separate  phenomena by itself,
and Complex Brewster Angle is not taken into consideration.
while  the word: Complex  makes all the difference to  the traditional understanding of Brewster angle

_______________________________________________________________________



What is your understanding of the low loss inside the waveguide, normal waveguides have much higher losses than the Corum's claim ?
omnidirectional propagation in free space free_space. (http://www.mike-willis.com/Tutorial/free_space.htm#:~:text=In%20free%20space%2C%20a%20radio%20wave%20launched%20from,there%20is%20nothing%20to%20prevent%20them%20doing%20so.) is restricted by inverse square law Inverse-square_law#:~ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law#:~:text=In%20science%2C%20an%20inverse-square%20law%20is%20any%20scientific,dilution%20corresponding%20to%20point-source%20radiation%20into%20three-dimensional%20space.)
impedance of free space is Z0 = 376.7 Ohm.Free-space path loss is: FSPL = ` ((4 pi * d*f)/c)^2`
and it is based on frequency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss)

generalizing we may say:
The lower is a frequency the lower is the loss over the distance.
however inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides!!!!!!


experimental analysis shows signal strength of 1W to 86% between New York and Los Angeles in the interface. at 17kHz
Note: it is not a power but percentage of the efficiency factor that is important for us to look at.

general rule:
The closer we are to Schumann frequency, the lower is our loss per unit of distance in the interface (2D waveguide)
____________________________
That also applies to extraction of energy from Schumann waveguide.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 18, 2022, 08:44:55 PM
Maybe there is something(energy) in this waveguide, as you say at a frequency of 17 kHz.
But the mistake is that you are trying to extract it (make a connection) in the traditional
ways for radio engineering. And at such low frequencies it does not work well.
It works well at high frequencies.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2022, 09:02:56 PM

about the losses versus frequency .

in free space point source propagation differs from line source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmenXrCt8L4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmenXrCt8L4)
https://youtu.be/ZoOvABpLvzI?t=58 (https://youtu.be/ZoOvABpLvzI?t=58)
point source produces spherical wave
Line source produces cylindrical wave
Example: vertical dipole.
https://www.sarthaks.com/223896/a-line-source-emits-a-cylindrical-expanding-wave-assuming-the-medium-absorbs-no-energy (https://www.sarthaks.com/223896/a-line-source-emits-a-cylindrical-expanding-wave-assuming-the-medium-absorbs-no-energy)

In  Dr. Corum technology we  are dealing with cylindrical wave
and that is why Tesla coil must be vertical in regards to the interface, while electric and magnetic fields are perpendicular to the direction of propagation.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 18, 2022, 11:54:54 PM
No worries Wesley,

I was only responding to something you wrote or said re Corum, cant recall.

Anyways odd diameter for that coil former, looks like PVC but not familiar with the size unless it's been turned down.

Have some optics background so have mentioned evanescent multiple times on this thread in relation to this device.  Really nice presentation when the guy pours the glycol with the laser illumination.

Certain kinds of mirrors treat photons as displacement current.  https://opg.optica.org/josaa/viewmedia.cfm?uri=josaa-2-9-1429
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: mkjekyll on August 19, 2022, 02:56:40 AM
Great site

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kABd_fiRNm8
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 22, 2022, 11:22:32 AM
What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a waveguide or a coaxial?
Is propagation speed related to frequency?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 22, 2022, 08:44:22 PM
What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a waveguide ?
speed of light within waveguide = <  speed of light in vacuum.(1 ft/ns)
most or waveguides are not in vacuum so speed of light within waveguide < than speed of light in vacuum.(1 ft/ns)
 Waveguide behaves much like a  passive  High Pass Filter and is basically supporting waves above a certain cut off frequency.
Power loss occurs in the walls of waveguide due to induced current, in order to reduce this loss walls are designed with as much low resistance as possible.

Tutorials/waveguide-basics-
 (https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Tutorials/waveguide-basics-tutorial.html#:~:text=Operating%20range%20of%20waveguide%20is%20approx.%20from%20300,support%20waves%20above%20a%20certain%20cut%20off%20frequency.)
What is the speed of movement of a traveling electromagnetic wave in a coaxial cable?
In coaxial cable, the speed of an electrical signal is about 2/3 of this, or about 8 in/ns.
https://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/76.18.html (https://web.physics.ucsb.edu/~lecturedemonstrations/Composer/Pages/76.18.html)
Speed of Electromagnetic Signal Along a Coaxial Cable
https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.1533966 (https://aapt.scitation.org/doi/10.1119/1.1533966)
Speed of waves through coaxial cable experiment
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/speed-of-waves-through-coaxial-cable-experiment/ (https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/speed-of-waves-through-coaxial-cable-experiment/)



__________________________________________________

 what is  electromagnetic wave (EMW)? :


Electromagnetic waves
are created by the vibration of an electric charge.
This vibration creates a wave which has both an electric and a magnetic component. vibrating perpendicularly to the direction of propagation,
Both electric and a magnetic component are at 90 degrees to each other.
 An electromagnetic wave
(EMW) transports its energy through a vacuum at a speed of c=3.00 x 108 m/s
EMW doesn't need any medium but if there is a medium than  "speed" of electromagnetic wave  depends from medium like: air, brick wall, plastic etc.
When EMW leaves particular medium e.g brick  it regains to particular speed of light at that another medium e.g air, and regains speed again 
to the "absolute" speed of light in vacuum if it goes to vacuum.

__________________________________________________
What is speed of EMW?:


I'll try for you simple analogy.
in classical mechanics:
When you turn on the water pressure  on one side the pressure wave passes rather fast to the end, but the  water itself takes much longer."
in quantum mechanics:
Phase velocity of EMW( electromagnetic wave) can be compared to pressure wave -coming from water pressure
Phase velocity  is (defines) the speed at which waves oscillating at a particular frequency propagates.
note:
The electric field and magnetic field of an electromagnetic wave are perpendicular (at right angles) to each other.
They are also perpendicular to the direction of the EM wave. EM waves travel with a constant velocity of 3.00 x 108 ms-1 in vacuum.
https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_speed_of_electromagnetic_waves_in_conductors (https://www.researchgate.net/post/What_is_the_speed_of_electromagnetic_waves_in_conductors)



Is propagation speed related to frequency?

Propagation speed is determined by the medium only. Frequency and/or amplitude are unrelated.




Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 23, 2022, 09:46:48 AM
And in your Schumann waveguide, it also moves approximately at the speed of light?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on August 23, 2022, 07:09:56 PM

багато хто з вас не бачить, наскільки Україна прекрасна ) але Я,  можу.
Тепер я бачу, наскільки знання української мови мені допомагає

Please tell me, is there an ambassador of the United States of America in Ukraine?
According to my information there is only a temporary attorney.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on August 23, 2022, 09:24:14 PM
Ambassador Brink
She was nominated by President Biden to be U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine on April 25, 2022,
 confirmed  by the U.S. Senate on May 18, 2022, and arrived in Kyiv on May 29, 2022.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on October 11, 2022, 03:47:18 PM
This years ICCF24 cold fusion conference had an interesting contribution ,
A seemingly impossible contribution,and it would seem easily replicated?
 Discussions are happening about that replication,..however they involve access
To university equipment and all the red tape !
The claim, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzv9kphxlfEGoThet (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uzv9kphxlfEGoThet)
  Wesley,
You do have something which can analyze samples ?
Verify or show error in claims?
Such access would be wonderful and would allow more serious discussions on replication!
These type of replication discussions can bring more helpful information to the forefront
And at times even solve or expedite unknown issues with original claims!
Your resources are quite valuable to open source community!
Respectfully
Chet K
PS
There is also talk on the street of another LENR breakthrough
Supposed to hear more in coming weeks!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 13, 2022, 10:00:21 PM
copy of the original comment moved from Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY (https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg571259/#msg571259) « Reply #23719 on: Today at 09:20:39 PM »
________________________________________
Thanks for the clarification.

"...Tariel Kapanadze  said to me :Humanity is not yet the level to appreciate free and for free."

I don't know who T. Kapanadze really was,
You can't ask him anymore because he's dead.
What is his son doing with this legacy?
some coworkers?
If I'm wrong, I'm sorry but then show me where.
his son doesn't have a knowledge-base, he's more humanist than technical.
It is not much problem  to have Tariel's original device, made originally by Tariel within few days from now if I want to.
Well.. at maximum one week from now.
You actually could have it too. But you need to know where bunch of them  is now.
The only difference is that I can have it with ... yes sort of "manual", if we can name it this way.
and in 100% working condition - that is for sure.
It is not really the question of money.

...is my stupidity, reaching the level overflowing my sense of security,


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 14, 2022, 08:44:16 AM
Why does everyone think that if they show a real device, someone is about to kill them?
The Internet is everywhere; everyone already has more than 1 camera. Where are the UFO photos if they exist? or maybe it does not exist and therefore no one has a real UFO? It's the same with those who say they have a miracle device, but others don't even deserve to see it. This is what Pharaoh did when he deceived people that the sun was at his request.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on October 14, 2022, 12:54:31 PM
Why does everyone think that if they show a real device, someone is about to kill them?
The Internet is everywhere; everyone already has more than 1 camera. Where are the UFO photos if they exist? or maybe it does not exist and therefore no one has a real UFO? It's the same with those who say they have a miracle device, but others don't even deserve to see it. This is what Pharaoh did when he deceived people that the sun was at his request.
You talk like a mushroom. You like to make folk think they are suffering from delusional
mushroom effect. KITDAFBS. (kept in the dark and fed bull shit).

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on October 14, 2022, 02:48:30 PM
You talk like a mushroom. You like to make folk think they are suffering from delusional
mushroom effect. KITDAFBS. (kept in the dark and fed bull shit).

Sil

You have no arguments and that is why you are who you are.  Are you more like a monkey? or to a man? or alien ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 14, 2022, 10:54:26 PM
ADRIAN MARSH, PhD he was a guest of
2022 ENERGY SCIENCE & TECHNOLOGY CONFERENCE PRESENTATIONS
organized by
Aaron Murakami and Eric Dollard
I was thinking to go there few years ago .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5raG28xqDs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5raG28xqDs)
biography:
Adrian Marsh  PhD
1980s  electronic engineer specializing in RF, microwave, and solid state technologies
-wave astronomical applications, properties of the high-gain cross-field antenna.
measurement ,  network and impedance analysis, RF power measurement, and time-domain reflectometry.
 1990s  Microelectronics Research Centre, at the Cavendish Laboratory, Cambridge University cryogenic linear amplifiers
for satellite and astronomical applications.  hall effect, ballistic coherent electron conduction, nano-scale charging
superconductor-semiconductor junctions;  superconducting transistor,  patents on superconductor-semiconductor
junction to high-speed computing and communications.

 1999 Adrian  the work of Tesla, Eric Dollard, and Edwin Gray,
 2003 his own self-funded, not-for-profit, research company called AMInnovations,
 research activity: “Displacement and Transference of Electric Power”. 
 relationship between the electric and magnetic fields of induction, and their balance and equilibrium throughout the common medium.
Displacement of electric power,


PRESENTATION: ADVANCED MEASUREMENT TECHNIQUES FOR TESLA COILS –
Building, operating, and optimising a working Tesla magnifying transmitter (TMT)
power transmission system for the maximum transfer of electric power with minimum loss,
 Detailed measurement, tuning, and accurate generator and load matching.
Measurement of such a TMT system in the frequency domain, using affordable  vector network analyzer, 

 a practical demonstration,   and  the small signal impedance characteristics with frequency for a Tesla coil,
and hence for a complete working TMT system. The presentation and demonstration includes:
1. An introduction to the basic principles of network analysis.
2. An introduction to the basic properties of Tesla coils, including resonance, coupling, tuning, and matching generators and loads.
3. Taking a look at equipment suited to this measurement technique both at the high-end, and the
    affordable end, with a comparison of the range of measurements available from both, and the likely accuracy and limitations which they present.
4. How to calibrate, setup, and prepare a network analyser to measure a Tesla coil.
5. How to make impedance measurements over a frequency band, and interpret the meaning of the measured results.
6. Impedance measurement comparison under different operating conditions, including the effects of coupling, primary and secondary coil tuning, and loading.
7. How to identify the best points of operation from the measurements, and then optimize the system for the maximum transference of electric power.
8. How to match a generator to a Tesla coil using the measured impedance characteristics.
9. A live measurement demonstration using the complete transmitter coil from a working TMT system, and connected to a portable and affordable VNA
complete biography is  here:
https://energyscienceconference.com/2020-speakers/ (https://energyscienceconference.com/2020-speakers/)
_______________________________________________________________


Adrian Marsh  PhD
YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTxU51o4RL3R0rb4mpvpEMg/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTxU51o4RL3R0rb4mpvpEMg/videos)

YouTube from conference was posted as preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGqEH7gCgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTGqEH7gCgs)
to watch full video you need to pay for it.

example of video from his YouTube, channel:
https://youtu.be/25C-bHBdF34?t=1732 (https://youtu.be/25C-bHBdF34?t=1732)

pros and cons:
the gentleman seems to be quite knowledgeable  spent a vast amount of time to make quite nice presentations

cons:
however my first impression was blown by him using a term
"magnito -dielectric longitudinal mode."

What the heck is that?
absolutely insane but this is my opinion.
what kind of quirky science is that? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?

cons:
although he is experienced ham radio operator, and  PhD
The two of his video books are in their full version
Available only if you pay for it around  $50+ each.you can buy it from Aaron Murakami .


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on October 15, 2022, 06:27:46 PM
Continuation from the post from above.

________________________________________________

Now lets analyze  ingenuousness of "genius" Adrian Marsh  PhD and  Erick Dollard the icon of energy for free research.
Some history  first:
it looks like Our PhD "hero" is supporting Eric Dollard with his:
longitudinal magneto-dielectric (LMD) transmission mode .
and  for some of you it may look like  quirky or possibly "quacky ."
________________________________________________

Motivation:

-Adrian Marsh  PhD is a businessman, promoting something.
-Erick Dollard
is widely recognized "holy cow"   the symbol for all of us.
 Despite of what he says, and how much craziness we might see from him, we tend to  forgive it.
 I completely disagree with many of Erick Dollard statements, but I respect him very much.
 e.g he's like if we were to look at the  Statue of Liberty We may don't like the material, the color the size, but it is a symbol.
 -innocent and great although not perfect.
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evaluation possible errors if any:
Adrian Marsh  PhD looks like  he is the key to "holy grill of energy for free"
although for some of you it doesn't look like and he supports  it as much as he is able to. But as  a businessman, he wants to make a buck on it,
so he doesn't give you something like IKEA bookshelf
that you can put it together and enjoy it.
Wesley: I am also not perfect and not free from errors but I  look at him from the perspective of fundamental science physics and electronics with willingness
- to look at both of the gentleman revelations fair enough.

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what is it about:
Every American in New York receives two bills for electricity
-one for delivery and - the other one for usage, were usually
delivery bill is higher. If someone were to eliminate the last one
he will become crazy wealthy or at least financially independent for life.
Promoted by  me Dr. James Corum (Viziv) EM wave  in the Earth/Air interface
as energy carrier is the key to success.
Adrian Marsh  PhD claims delivers promise and very accurate
 instruction
how to  tune Tesla coil  impedance to maximum
of power transfer. If it works it gives regular citizen a complete guidance
of how it works and how to do it in your backyard.

How to make a money on it:
Electricity can be purchased by you for much less as a bundle .
First few of your clients covers your own delivery cost while paying much less now.
Your delivery cost to your clients is close to zero, !!.
Example:
5 miles from Niagara Falls, energy delivery is $10
Your clients much far away usually pay for energy delivery bill $180
So in theory every client brings you $170 gross, but you decided
that you would be happy to charge them only $60 making them happy as well.
However if you were to use energy extraction from Schumann waveguide
then all of that energy is for free.
it will become like another Niagara Falls, paid one time for the devices
and now the only cost is  the maintenance.
look at this video only for ~two minutes:
https://youtu.be/k5raG28xqDs?t=69 (https://youtu.be/k5raG28xqDs?t=69)
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the video:
first look at:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5raG28xqDs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5raG28xqDs) that is chopped and full version of it
you may get if you pay for it to nonprofit organization run by  Aaron Murakami, that organizes every year
energy for free conference in  Spokane, Washington Washington State USA.
https://aaronmurakami.com/biography/ (https://aaronmurakami.com/biography/)
 then you look at:
http://vinyasi.info/circuitjs1/graphs/two-lmds-shorted.cmf_.htmlIt (http://vinyasi.info/circuitjs1/graphs/two-lmds-shorted.cmf_.htmlIt) is followed by simulation:
http://vinyasi.info/circuitjs1/graphs/two-lmds-batt.txt_.html (http://vinyasi.info/circuitjs1/graphs/two-lmds-batt.txt_.html)
then you look at:
https://youtu.be/fneUVW0RXec?t=65 (https://youtu.be/fneUVW0RXec?t=65)
Parametric Oscillator
then you look at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_oscillator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parametric_oscillator)

The cost of VNA can be $90 for VNA nano. but more sophisticated one is  ~$2000+

Wesley

 


 
Title: 47MHz to 65MHz
Post by: magnetstoo on November 01, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
Mr. Wesley... Im including a schematic of the 24v .25a 52MHz system I built, that,somehow, took out my PCSU1000 scope,USB mouse,instantly shut the computer down,and popped the SBB5089 input FET of the (now 1watt) 4w 50MHz to 1.1GHz Linear Amp.
Took me 30+ hours to restore the computer with a different board but the wrest was trashed.Im trying to get the Linear amp up and going again.In my area the frequency seems to be in the +/- 53MHz range of the background.I have no scope now to test my amp..Im trying to use an NE72084 GaAs FET for the front-end as a replacement as I have several.
  The Linear amp -off Ebay-was a 4 watt,50 MHz to 1.1 GHz 36 Dbm used for digital TV,But I blew out the 4 watt SM6S4 and replaced it with a 1 watt IRFDZ13.Somehow,when I turned on the VARIAC which was set at 0% a surge took place in the system and did all that damage. I make these schems for my own research.I thought you guys might
have an interest or similar experience.This is more in line with Don Smiths suitcase device and other work.Perhaps Akula and some of his devices.
Title: Re: 47MHz to 65MHz
Post by: kolbacict on November 01, 2022, 04:55:59 PM
I thought you guys might
have an interest or similar experience.
I had something same once.  For some reason, my device went into disarray, broke,fire for a reason that is still not clear to me. But it was a completely different device, an oscillatory circuit with parametric oscillation excitation. By means of capacitors switched by means of mechanical relays.
That is, there was a complete decoupling of the power circuit from the control circuits, all the more it is not clear how this could happen.It was many years ago, but still haunts. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 01, 2022, 11:07:55 PM
   I took some screen shots from the video and included comments--hope they are readable.I ordered 2 more PCSU1000 for 190$US each..
What I read they are being discontinued..the new model does not do the 250+ MHZ range,but it includes the signal generator within.
Im getting them from EIO electronics.Some wanted 340$US each.There are smaller units,handheld, with the LCD flat screen but like the "Tiny Spectrum Analyzer" and "Tiny Vector Analyzer" Im sure the screen update is waaaaay too slow.Im lucky I did not have a more expensive  scope.These PC units can be sacrificed if need be, and the PC repaired.The Lithuania experiment---you advised not to hook directly to the output but use a HV probe--this unit does not use HV,nor should it spark,but I cannot rule out it may have, somewhere...I also find that HV and HF have very similar characteristics that they "migrate" and "penetrate." I do not know what happened but I am looking over the data carefully, obviously to not take out more equipment...The "1.2uH can" is a small adjustable IF can used in early radios,the back side (with blue insulation tape) can be seen in the picture of the Lin amp.----I forgot to mention that when the PC (running win ME) shut down and I restarted it later,it would still run fine except the USB ports-all of them,would not recognize anything.The Hdwr section also showed no problems.I looked through my stuff and found some boards and sorting proceeded to rebuild---also the Hard drive was still fine . But the new board just proved the PCSU1000 was dead and the USB mouse was dead.More investigation showed the Linear Amp front end had died also.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 02, 2022, 10:46:33 PM
  After viewing the video, this schematic shows what I found to the best of my knowledge.I included the part# of the "Signal Transformer" and any pertinent info.I hope Im not chasing down a rabbit hole again or sending anyone else.Don Smith taught over in Europe and Asia after being rejected in the USA with his patents.I keep wondering if Terial Kapanadze was inspired at any point or if he even knew of Don Smith.Im still waiting for parts to come in so I can continue.The 4w Linear Amp (no brand name) came from EBAY for 88$ US out of China--took about 1 week.
  My work bench is a non-insulated wooden table which also lends to hv migration.I believe also the GND system had a lot to contribute,not that its poor but its a separate system.The ext. gnd uses a 60ft silver coated multi-strand 00 wire attached to a 4ft x 3/4" copper water pipe hammered into the ground next to the house.Also,the scope Probe was not even connected,just its GND..The probe end was sitting near the Trfmr.Also,the computer would not turn back on,even after I shut the VARIAC off.Only when the amp was turned of did it start back up and I found the USB ports dead..So I suspect the whole Gnd system was modified somehow.The computer is an old Windows ME Celeron 2.8 Ghz (it was,now its a 2.2 GHz Celeron)   that wont give up.The Vector Vid power supply was not affected at all.....This is all I can tell you because there is no more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 04, 2022, 05:57:23 AM
  Short update....the VARIAC, when I turn it on (set at 0%),I notice it sends out a single pulse into the transformer,probably due to the in-rush of voltage/current.This pulse varied in freq. but
I notice one was in the 44MHz-48MHz range (pulse too short to capture),some higher.So it must have pulsed at ~44MHz and started that avalanche...I also notice on my secondary 20MHz TENMA Palmscope, that ~18MHz is a more pronounced frequency and the 44.7 MHz,,,plus others,,, are buried in between these pulses....My conclusion is the ext GND was modified and caused all this that was connected  to it.--which interests me more, now that I know what to look for.
      If you have a 20 MHz scope with a zoom capability,look in the 50nS range,you may be able to measure up to 100MHz.They are at very small voltages.My house is presently at +3v 60Hz (voltage varies with day & weather) just sitting on stuff...That kind of voltage is not coming from a 120v 60Hz source.My house is also about 1/2 km from a small power station  and 3/4 km from overhead high tension lines.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 06, 2022, 06:13:50 PM
  Here's the video if interested   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyrFFk7P0v4  some cussing at the end,,sorry for that..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 14, 2022, 09:11:12 PM
EIO.com now informs me they do not have any PCSU1000 but are contacting the manufacturer (for a discontinued product? !!)--I ask "why advertise?"
 I  find my ext gnd. is sitting at 330mvDC relative to the electrical ground,the wire measures 3.3M ohms and has at least a 180kHz frequency.
I have not been able to recreate  the surge or whatever you can call it.
I have repaired the 24v 5watt linear amp (scavage-ing parts from a 1watt amp)and running it at or near where it avalanched but the resonant frequency is now only at 41MHz to 42 MHz...not 44MHz or 52MHz? (where the bulb lit).I may have to buy another 5w amp or bigger. Here is another schematic that I made trying to make sense of this.
  I did find,when it is resonating,the transformer core ,the linear amp body (=24v power gnd),and the outside ext. gnd. all rose to .5v to 1v depending on the tuning.So I did have a positive voltage feeding back into the ground of the scope at some unknown freq.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on November 17, 2022, 06:34:39 AM
 -This system had 60v-90v out of it to the bulb, though at a low current, I seen this when the  o-scope was working...  Well, my present idea on what happened was an oscillation got set up in the 10:1 transformer ,perhaps the VARIAC too,and then resonated into the 120v coil --this caused the 12v side to go to possibly 900v.Best  guess it is.I have had that OSC take high voltage surges and the most it would do was hang and tell me the USB could not be found...always a USB issue.That O-scope did not like static electricity.Ive had static settle on my table and it then took over the keyboard..opening windows,menus,programs,occasionally shutting down.... But I do not remember,a flat, shut OFF.I could not get that system to do it again.So Im now shoving--at 50MHz-70MHz-12v into a micro-wave trfmr using a different Linear amp and a bi-fi 38g antennae coil as pickup..,because my 30v amp got shorted out again and I do not have anymore spare parts.Brightness looks about the same as with  the disaster bulb but Its costing 11v @ 1.6a input to get it.....No VARIAC here.Variac was used to try and add a 60Hz to the 50MHz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 22, 2022, 03:21:54 PM
Quote
I saw you mentioned :
The cost of VNA can be $90 for VNA nano. but more sophisticated one is  ~$2000+
I could not agree more
But I also found out that the nano is not as stable as I would have it, especially when measuring inductance and impedance 
low resistance (50 - 1.5 mOhm) csr / shunts in "shunt thru" mode.
So I am looking for a more sophisticated VNA.
I have set my mind on an HP 8753E as I understand that still is a very sophisticated and stable piece of equipment.
I saw you have such an HP 8753, so I wonder what you think of it and if you can recommend that type.

I have many vector network analyzers, and someone would be very surprised
that I prefer 40 years old HP 4194A that is just Impedance/Gain-Phase Analyzer,
https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/impedanceanalyzers/4194a.htm (https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/usedequipment/hewlettpackard/impedanceanalyzers/4194a.htm)

In the world of science, it doesn't matter how old is the instrument, the most important is how it functions and what it does.
I have in my lab few over 100 years old devices that would never sell.
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From a practical standpoint:
R3754B Advantest  https://testequipment.center/Products/Advantest-R3754B (https://testequipment.center/Products/Advantest-R3754B)

]application is important:[/b]
Specifications:
Frequency Accuracy: 0.0005%
Frequency Range: 10 kHz - 150 MHz
Output Impedance: 50 ohms
Output Power Range: 0.0005 mW - 125.89 mW
Sweep Range: 0.1dB

it is extremely fast and it starts from 10 kHz , - that is your statue of limitation for the lower range.
And in my application Zenneck Wave,  the frequency of interest is 18 kHz and lower.
-the upper range is 150 MHz which is for me plenty too much.
and yes it has a Smith Chart
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in comparison:
HP 4194A is very slow but has High accuracy and wide range-
 Impedance measurement:
 100 Hz to 40 MHz,
0.1 mΩ  to 1.6 MΩ, 0.17% - 10 kHz to 100 MHz, 0.1Ω  to 1 MΩ, 1.5% when used with the HP 41941A/B
 Gain-phase measurement:
 10 Hz to 100 MHz,
-107 dBm to +15 dBm, 0.1 dB resolution color graphic display
\
we are looking at starting range 100 Hz for gain and phase ,
 -and yes, it doesn't have Smith Chart ...so what,  this is  a tool the very precise tool!!!!
so if you're interested with having RLC impedance meter then you know that it will do so perfectly well but only starting from
100 kHz and up.
However in my application the most important is gain and phase - and that starts from 100 Hz for HP 4194A.

Despite of how modern or how old is the device is likely better than any nano VNA made in China.
however everything depends from the application.
For those who deal with frequencies over 1 MHz and mostly antennas they need something small and portable and that's what nano VNA is for.
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 HP 8753 has few different versions and for VNA
for a hunter, it is the most confusing what to choose from that particle model.
The name seems to be always the same but there is a huge difference in configuration
for example the lower range may start from 300 kHz or from 30 kHz
and the model that I have starts from 30 kHz
so that VNA is mostly unused by me for Zenneck wave application
however it has very high upper range for those who deals with gigahertz
https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/Everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-HP-8753-VNA/ (https://www.kirkbymicrowave.co.uk/Everything-you-wanted-to-know-about-the-HP-8753-VNA/)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 23, 2022, 01:39:54 AM
https://youtu.be/yMz_rtiM7FU?t=121 (https://youtu.be/yMz_rtiM7FU?t=121)
electrostatic lifting  now applied differently

 Those of you dreaming about floating objects in the air, might be interested.

https://youtu.be/2If9ZJQCyLA?t=307


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 23, 2022, 02:08:35 AM
 more  entertainment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-HWyYdB1g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9-HWyYdB1g)
Perendev Magnet Motor - Does IT WORK?!

you can buy it to check it out.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 25, 2022, 01:22:20 AM
5 Motors You Have To SEE To BELIEVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlo-sDrq24w
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on November 25, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrEBoPYS4nsA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrEBoPYS4nsA) Next-Gen Ionic Thruster! (For Flight)

https://youtu.be/wci0pJoMOqQ?t=232 7 STRANGEST New Drones

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on December 05, 2022, 07:30:02 PM
Mr. Wesley...Sergey Panov showed the  "Fish Pattern" in Ruslan Kalabuov device,and said to inject your signal there. Here are some screen shots with the "fish pattern" from my device using 48MHz instead of 20 Kv.. I find Hv and Hf have similiar properties in that they both migrate, penetrate,and carry much energy as per Don Smith.
I had to colour enhance these to bring out the detail because the lighter colours started blending with the white.
Anyway ch1 is the home gnd.....ch2 is the outside gnd...the center shows the channel(s) MATH,
2 pictures show (center) a Fourier Analysis-1 picture  for ch1 and 1 for ch2...Since Im using coil pickups the inputs are low volt and the scale is 200mv/div.
The third picture--you cant miss it---center shows ch1 / ch2 at which point I had to increase its scale to 1 volt.It shows a voltage swing of ~8:1 relative to ch1 and ch2...If you draw a line from ch1 to ch2 you will see about 20 deg offset p-p.
This is what Im trying to do, resonate it out of the ground,and control that offset and see what max I can get out of it.But adjusting a 48MHz signal obviously is not easy with the rf migration and rf losses and its attachments to objects.
Also,this Hantek scope does not have the resolution the PCSU1000 had,... but it does capture random screens like these because it does not "pause". .Very little operating instructions and no "Spectrum Analyzer" screen like the PCSU though it does have selectable data that is quick.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 26, 2022, 03:11:56 AM
For example, does a radio signal propagate outwards or does it disturb a medium
AC
Radio waves are electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves differ from mechanical waves in that they do not require a medium to propagate.
https://www.quora.com/Do-radio-waves-require-a-medium-to-travel
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magpwr on December 26, 2022, 03:20:38 PM
Hi stivep,
Satellite as you already knew with the main component magnetron which the electron velocity is accelerated without the need for "Earth grounding" or counterpoise.If there was Earth grounding involved as the requirement i would not be interested in the kapanadze device a long time ago.
Eric dollard device is a negative-resistance device because of the counter winding which reduce the resistance of the entire winding by "half" if measured from end to end.

Too bad the scope merely reveal flat 2d waveform.It is difficult for many to understand how "electrons" movement create the electromagnetic fields.

Electrons are slow down by "resistance" but electrons can also be accelerated by "negative resistance"  :D

  People have seen  ring-down waveform many times but they were not shown/explained clearly why the amplitude is decreasing over time.Answer is revealed in the above sentence.

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If anyone of you have seen ring-down waveform it is because of "resistance" created by one continuous winding.
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People need to understand almost all the elementary formulas eg:V/I, V/R and many etc were derived from actual experiments before the formula even existed.I hope you understand what i am trying to convey.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 26, 2022, 03:42:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPkIH9G6Iw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 26, 2022, 08:36:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPkIH9G6Iw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPkIH9G6Iw)
magician knows his tricks.
It is a commercial. A Russian Man in goggles and gas mask
 naming a price for it of a €10,000.



Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2022, 12:04:23 AM
Hi stivep,
Satellite as you already knew with the main component magnetron which the electron velocity is accelerated without the need for "Earth grounding" or counterpoise.
Satellites operates in microwave region of frequency range.
AM broadcasting stations operates at LF or VLF frequency range.
and dish antenna is a parabolic reflector not the quarter wave dipole
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The subject of video in question was telluric current .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zoEMkuqiQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8zoEMkuqiQ)
The statement in the video was claiming involvement of the telluric current as a primary mechanism
of receiving local AM radio station  of about 2.5 kW power PRP.
 Experimenter used:
1. a conductor (wire) immersed in the water from the lake.( basin, River)as an antenna connected to ham radio transceiver.
and then:
2. coil serving as an antenna connected to inner  of the  of   Rx/Tx PL 259 connector of a ham radio transceiver, while shield
(the outer part of  PL 259 was connected to the ground  immersed in the water from the lake.
https://www.arcantenna.com/blogs/news/uhf-pl259-so239-what-is-the-difference (https://www.arcantenna.com/blogs/news/uhf-pl259-so239-what-is-the-difference)
That  made a traditional vertical dipole configuration.
( look at the position- of the coil that is vertically polarized.
It means:
 vertical piece of wire was coiled to take less of a vertical  height
  like car antenna)

The  AM band is covering width  in the range of 500 kHz up to ~ 2 megahertz
https://www.dxing.com/amband.htm (https://www.dxing.com/amband.htm)
The video content maker,:
-failed to explain the interaction of electromagnetic wave at frequency of ~500 kHz with the telluric current  at the depth of
~1-5 m,. 
-failed to explain what role in the process of receiving signal the telluric current has there?
telluric  current phenomena – has not much to do with ground wave reception.
Local AM radio station transmitted signal  - has nothing to do with telluric current,

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If there was Earth grounding involved as the requirement i would not be interested in the kapanadze device a long time ago.
https://www.eeeguide.com/effects-of-ground-on-antenna-performance/ (https://www.eeeguide.com/effects-of-ground-on-antenna-performance/)
https://mfjenterprises.com/products/mfj-931 (https://mfjenterprises.com/products/mfj-931)

at 20th floor of the building artificial ground works as well.
Think about ground and artificial ground as a balance or counterpoise
and as a part of antenna radiative system.
https://ham.stackexchange.com/questions/21300/what-balance-radials-or-counterpoise-do-i-need-for-a-vertical-hamstick-as-a-st (https://ham.stackexchange.com/questions/21300/what-balance-radials-or-counterpoise-do-i-need-for-a-vertical-hamstick-as-a-st)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 27, 2022, 10:54:48 PM
This is why I don't care who said what or how they said it. I only look at whether something is reasonable, reflects the reality of a given situation and is free of contradictions.
AC
I agree that you don't care and that you don't know.
I agree that you have a rights to your point of view.
We are standing at a certain level of scientific achievement, and my response is based on its statements for today.
We know that mechanical waves can't exist without a medium!
Based on science we know that electromagnetic wave doesn't need any medium to travel.
https://science.nasa.gov/ems/02_anatomy (https://science.nasa.gov/ems/02_anatomy)

This energy can be described by frequency, wavelength, or energy.
Electromagnetic waves are produced due to the timely change in the electric and magnetic fields and depending on the periodic change power is generated in the field.
- as a result of vibrations between an electric field and a magnetic field.
Electromagnetic (https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=29d05634d5137691JmltdHM9MTY3MjA5OTIwMCZpZ3VpZD0yODY2Y2FhMy1hMzBlLTYzYjctMjNjMC1kODI0YTI0ZDYyZTImaW5zaWQ9NTQwMw&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=2866caa3-a30e-63b7-23c0-d824a24d62e2&u=a1L3NlYXJjaD9xPUVsZWN0cm9tYWduZXRpYytyYWRpYXRpb24mZmlsdGVycz1zaWQlM2E2MzU4Mjk1ZC02YTUyLTJkZjgtODcwYS1mODhhOTI5N2FhZWQmZm9ybT1FTlRMTks&ntb=1) waves do not require a medium such as air, so they can transfer energy through vacuum, or empty space.
In a vacuum, all electromagnetic waves travel at 3 × 10 8 m s − 1 – the fastest speed possible.
https://socratic.org/questions/what-type-of-wave-does-not-need-a-medium-to-transfer-its-energy (https://socratic.org/questions/what-type-of-wave-does-not-need-a-medium-to-transfer-its-energy)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on December 28, 2022, 12:01:32 PM
"Similar phenomena were noted, greatly magnified in intensity, but they were susceptible of a different and more plausible explanation. I considered this so important that in 1892 I went to Bonn, Germany, to confer with Dr. Hertz in regard to my observations. He seemed disappointed to such a degree that I re- gretted my trip and parted from him sor- rowfully. During the succeeding years I made numerous experiments with the same object, but the results were uniformly nega- tive. In 1900, however, after I had evolved a wireless transmitter which enabled me to obtain electro-magnetic activities of many millions of horse-power, I made a last des- perate attempt to prove that the disturb- ances emanating from the oscillator were ether vibrations akin to those of light, but met again with utter failure. For more than eighteen years I have been reading treat- ises, reports of scientific transactions, and articles on Hertz-wave telegraphy, to keep myself informed. but they have always im- prest me like works of fiction.
The history of science shows that theo- ries are perishable. With every new truth that is revealed we get a better under- standing of Nature and our conceptions and views are modified. Dr. Hertz did not discover a new principle...."
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 28, 2022, 12:31:07 PM
This energy can be described by frequency, wavelength, or energy.
Wesley
Why, then, does a quantum of infrared radiation heat body up when absorbed, for example, by a completely black body more than the same quantum of ultraviolet ?
The energy of the ultraviolet quantum should be many times greater.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 28, 2022, 03:28:23 PM
Why, then, does a quantum of infrared radiation heat body up when absorbed, for example, by a completely black body more than the same quantum of ultraviolet ?
The energy of the ultraviolet quantum should be many times greater.

One UV  (ultraviolet) photon has more energy than one IR  (infrared) photon.
https://www.quora.com/Radiation-Which-carries-more-energy-infrared-or-ultraviolet-How (https://www.quora.com/Radiation-Which-carries-more-energy-infrared-or-ultraviolet-How)

probably the confusing factor for you is that you take big number of infrared photons
and trying to compare it with one photon of ultraviolet.
The higher is the frequency, / the shorter is the wavelength  the more energy per  period is there.
so one photon of gamma ray  has more energy per period then one ultraviolet  photon .

That explains why electromagnetic waves below the range of visible light are harmless to a human body.
Because they have very little energy per period.
However you need also to understand the intensity. at the given point( distance) from the radiation source (e.g antenna)
it was clearly visible at antennas of Russian radio location systems(radars)
example:
if a soldier was fixing something in the middle of an antenna dish of Russian  "Zoska"  or "Natasha" operating at only few hundred megahertz frequency band.
and the other one accidentally switched ON the power than this soldier on the antenna was simply cooked.
but because of inverse square law if he was 10 feet away he had a very much guaranteed
survival.
Another factor is length of exposure. it can be compared with "cooking" the water where it takes time before water is boiling.
I hope it helps.



Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 29, 2022, 08:02:25 PM
in regards to:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg572453/#msg572453 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg572453/#msg572453)
it is time to say more about the achievement that made possible to receive more energy from the device that was
delivered to the device.
It has nothing to do with overunity as  overunity doesn't exist .
However for some of you it is strange that you can deliver 100 W and receive 250 W or more.
Translated to the cost of energy it would be invested 100% of the money and right after a nanosecond you got 250% back.
It is explained here:
https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20210817a/full/ (https://physicstoday.scitation.org/do/10.1063/PT.6.2.20210817a/full/)
https://youtu.be/BzSI2cz1Aag?t=29 (https://youtu.be/BzSI2cz1Aag?t=29)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ys9P_1TgEg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ys9P_1TgEg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCxdD4ZoWs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sCxdD4ZoWs)

in the next comment I will try to go deeper into it, and say more about the technicality of the process.
This process could be also done in the small lab.
actually it was done at some researchers homes with minor difference.
So they saw the glowing matter suspended in the middle, but the material was not that what makes the difference.
Temperatures are translated to the size of specimen,
so the amount of power delivered to 1000 times smaller specimen can be 1000 times smaller, but the effect would be there.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: speedy125 on December 29, 2022, 11:24:25 PM
Wes one comment ,
 "dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2022, 02:27:08 PM
Wes one comment ,
 "dr. Tadić: This is good news, but we have to wait for the complete results
dr. sc. Tonči Tadić, head of Croatian fusion activities within the EUROfusion consortium and president of the Council of the European project DONES-PreP, tells us that we should be careful when interpreting the results, that is, wait for the full report.

- This is certainly a nice and good news for everyone. This is about inertial fusion, where a miniature capsule is taken and fired with lasers. Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .

Tonči Tadić, is very much respected scientist but
the above quote was taken from: WebG3
scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/ (https://observatorial.com/news/technology-and-science/245835/scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/)
In physics accuracy and detail matters:
writes the Guardian.
but the information about the guardian is served to us by
WebG3 that  is  at the same time "
nonprofit, ships containers, converts steel shipping containers into medical clinics   
creates medical grade maternal health facilities in Kenya 
G3Box,  (receives about 45 unique visitors per day, and it is ranked 5,142,314 in the world.)

in other words we dealing with some source quoting another source about somebody else achievement or activity.
and then dozens of less important forces are quoting the secondary sources editing and editing their own interpretation.
Did you get the picture?



The gain achieved by scientists was 150% in plus.
that means they delivered 100% of of power and they  gained 150% making it total ~ 250% after less than ~1 ns.
And even here  in this point we have a problem for a average reader:
was it 1 ns or it was 1 ps or it was 1 femtosecond

it is a normal material that  disintegrates in temperatures not much more  and around 2000's degrees of centigrade.
it is important to remember inverse square law.
It is important to remember time frame of incident pulse known also as time of exposure

example:
If transparency  to the source of heat  of the envelope holding the specimen is good enough,
Then it is a specimen that is heated more than the envelope, by external source (example laser)
The specimen is re-radiating back the heat, to the walls of the envelope, according to inverse square law, and it takes a time
it takes also a time before it reaches the walls of the envelope, that are partially heat  transparent .
Part of that energy from the specimen, is radiated in form of x-rays.
those x-rays are transparent to the walls of the envelope.
That makes the envelope more survival  to melting.


an example of quote that was quoting a quote:
Quote
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory managed to produce more energy with fusion than they invested,
 according to the first results of an experiment that can be a turning point in the way we get energy.
Scientists have been dealing with the problem of nuclear fusion and how it would be possible to
release excess energy in relation to the investment since the 1950s, and these results, if confirmed,
 will have historical significance.
http://observatorial.com/news/technology-and-science/245835/scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/ (http://observatorial.com/news/technology-and-science/245835/scientists-in-the-usa-succeeded-in-producing-more-energy-than-the-investment-through-fusion-this-is-a-turning-point/)
___________________________________________________________

summary:

the goal was to suspend the specimen in the vacuum
-were the distance to the walls of the material holding it is (according to the inverse square law)
 long enough for that material to survive  the pulse heating the specimen.
 (the pulse time-frame)
 
-melting takes time and the pulse is heating much faster the specimen to fusion temperature

- then specimen ignites releasing more energy than was delivered to it in the process  of fusion.
  then it must be cooling time for the specimen envelope material, avoiding its disintegration.
  And then we are ready to repeat the process.,

It is important to remember that the amount of energy delivered is directly proportional to the size of specimen
So small labs or very small labs can achieve the effect as well.

I think the next important is for me to comment the  forms of suspension of a specimen
 in the vacuum with and without any  capsule.

In other words:
How can you suspend the plasma "in the middle of "nowhere" but
this "nowhere" is exactly where we want that "nowhere" to be.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2022, 03:47:48 PM
Quote
what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy
https://www.avalanche.energy/about.html (https://www.avalanche.energy/about.html)
https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion (https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion)
I know nothing about them yet.
I may think, . Nicely made commercial site is:
– not saying too much.
– having strictly commercial agenda.
But then it should be followed by some patents right?
So what are those  patents and where to find them?

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 30, 2022, 04:28:23 PM
Quote
what you think about approach of this company ?

Avalanche Energy

https://www.avalanche.energy/ (https://www.avalanche.energy/)

https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion (https://twitter.com/AvalancheFusion)

and /embercore

https://www.usnc.com/embercore/ (https://www.usnc.com/embercore/)

Dear Croatian friend:
thank you very much for very much interesting links.


Just a simple mechanism:
You approaching certain entity with expectations to gain.


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on December 30, 2022, 04:36:17 PM
Although in this experiment they got 2.5 MJ of energy after using 2.1 MJ for heating, no one here says how much energy was used for pumping the laser, which can turn out to be more than 2.1 MJ - explains Dr. Tadić .
Certainly more. The laser, as far as I know, has a very low efficiency. Worse than a steam locomotive.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 31, 2022, 08:56:14 PM
 how complicated is hardware of fusion experiment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPbnKdve9M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPbnKdve9M)

more is yet to come.
this is just  an introduction to temporary and really very small lab.
just remember that this video was made one month and two weeks before the discovery
of American scientists making real progress of achieving the amount of energy that is
highly exceeding the energy delivered to the device

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on December 31, 2022, 10:48:05 PM
that is a second part of:
how to  build a fusor to make fusion in  small small lab or garage.
how complicated is hardware of fusion experiment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsikwXnUcBs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsikwXnUcBs)

more is yet to come.
this is just  an introduction to the temporary and really very small lab.
just remember that this video was made one month and two weeks before the discovery
of American scientists making real progress of achieving the amount of energy that is
highly exceeding the energy delivered to the device


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on January 01, 2023, 01:22:43 PM
Richard Hull
Farnsworth Fusor  ?( Google )
 Decades or more of efforts, young boy had Fusor ( star?) running in his bedroom lab
5+ Years ago ?(?Student of Richard Hull ( he teaches Fusor in Virginia ( I think ?
  He was always trying to self run units …and teaching kids etc about science!
Will look for links when I get back home !
Happy New Year …
I personally hope that open source FE finds its way to the world this year !
Respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 01, 2023, 02:13:14 PM
that is a second part of:
how to  build a fusor to make fusion in  small small lab or garage.
how complicated is hardware of fusion experiment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsikwXnUcBs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsikwXnUcBs)

more is yet to come.
this is just  an introduction to the temporary and really very small lab.
just remember that this video was made one month and two weeks before the discovery
of American scientists making real progress of achieving the amount of energy that is
highly exceeding the energy delivered to the device


Wesley
Farsnworth fusor is known for a long time.
I like it because it works like asymetric capacitor with one electrode in the middle of the sphere.
But this video doesn't show any breakthrough.
Girls are having a lot of excitement like a curious cat over magic plasma ball :-D
(5) Cat and Plasma Ball - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkJYY4dDdr0)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 01, 2023, 09:02:28 PM


Farsnworth fusor is known for a long time.
I like it because it works like asymetric capacitor with one electrode in the middle of the sphere.
But this video doesn't show any breakthrough.
Cheers,
Pix

1. ~three weeks ago we were told that fusion works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and delivers much more energy
then the energy used  for powering the device.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 01, 2023, 11:04:25 PM
short version :  understand  fusion  in about 1 minute:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n3LeKx9Qvo4 (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n3LeKx9Qvo4)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on January 02, 2023, 10:46:47 AM
Do you think crowd knows how magnetron is functioning when they heat up a meal in the microwave oven?
I think many professors do not understand how a magnetron works with one whole uncut anode.
We had a training layout at the university for studying the operation of a magnetron.
There was a that lamp in its  middle. A magnet was put on, and a microwave appeared!
Although it does not even have a resonator. :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 03, 2023, 05:13:19 PM
Ok Wesley.
Bunk de-bunked.
I found video where someone took a closer look. 
In fact that exact video made me suspicious previously.
(5) бунк - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wClnOaWio0w)


Bunk case is closed.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2023, 07:12:54 PM
8 billion people   on the planet  earth never saw beta particle  and its beauty
its violent life - in their  own
entire life,
These who saw it are few thousands.

https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=143 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=143)
This video of mine  was seen  only 1,777 times  since Mar 24, 2016.


I spend money  for  device ,  argon supply, triethylamine,   programing,
than videomaking and editing.....
For 1.7 thousand viewers? 
Wesley
 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 03, 2023, 07:36:57 PM
Nothing is "for free"  ;)
I do not have much resources and time to experiment with questionable ideas.
I am not Tesla, who had a devices simulator in his head.
That's why I am asking people who are smarter and have more specified knowledge than me.
You knew Kapanadze, you did see his device.
You may have knowledge about many "replicators".
That's why I asked your opinion about Bunk.
But that case is closed.
Quest for a "free", pardon- "COP>1" energy source continues..

PS. VIZIV and Corums went down and silent mysteriously.
I have seen your videos regarding Shumann waveguide energy transfer.
This is my guess -yes, Schumann waveguide could be the source of energy as soon as you tune Tesla resonator for it's harmonic.
Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 03, 2023, 08:14:19 PM
I have 3 kids to feed, no money  :)
Going to continue quest by myself.
Occasionally asking smarter than me about their opinion. ;)




The only good think I found spending my time on russian forums regarding Bunk device is- EH antenna.
Now I am thinking loud- if someone is  running Tesla coil, and feeds that HV reactive power into EH antenna.
EH antenna puts voltage and current in phase, and moves far field to the antenna surface, radiating real power.
Size of EH antenna is 1-5% of wavelength, so it will be reasonably in size.
Now we pick up that radiation with sort of coil wound concentrically in close proximity.
Wouldn't it be a possible way for converting huge reactive power circulating in Tesla secondary into real power?


Interesting document attached.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 03, 2023, 08:56:24 PM
if someone is  running Tesla coil, and feeds that HV reactive power into EH antenna.
EH antenna puts voltage and current in phase, and moves far field to the antenna surface, radiating real power.
Size of EH antenna is 1-5% of wavelength, so it will be reasonably in size.
Now we pick up that radiation with sort of coil wound concentrically in close proximity.
Wouldn't it be a possible way for converting huge reactive power circulating in Tesla secondary into real power?
Cheers,
Pix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWR5d7t0WAw)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Fn-qb6KF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Fn-qb6KF8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHe9SUn6mUQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHe9SUn6mUQ)   Russian..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEiX1uh8YTw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEiX1uh8YTw)       Russian..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XERtn_m_1ag (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XERtn_m_1ag)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBaLyaCio0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmBaLyaCio0)      German English
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HJNHefwV0
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9HJNHefwV0)

Using a Tesla Coil to Launch and a Loop Antenna to Detect an Electromagnetic Wave   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDgCtjvPcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDgCtjvPcQ)
this one is not on subject but entertaining to you pix  : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScOd3ExKFM8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScOd3ExKFM8)

this guy is not a ham but he has interesting concept with fiberoptic isolator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxPtFJN5pk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvxPtFJN5pk)


Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 03, 2023, 09:48:41 PM
Interesting videos.
Seems like EH antenna could be a good candidate to convert  reactive power into real power.
Could be feed by from Tesla coil, radiate real power that we pick up.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 03, 2023, 10:36:12 PM
Using a Tesla Coil to Launch and a Loop Antenna to Detect an Electromagnetic Wave   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDgCtjvPcQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysDgCtjvPcQ)


Why this guy uses transformer formula to describe his Tesla coil voltage rise?
Tesla coil voltage magnification is happening due to different action.
The rest is interesting.
Thanks.


Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 09:38:55 AM
@wesely,

Hello,

regarding ' Caduceus Coil with pickup coil  / Lithuania OU experiment ' (not the ferrite yoke) experiment, could you lay out proper schematic for turns and circuit ?

i know you have many videos on this topic and post's aswell, but is there a proper replication plan laid out for this device, if not, could you please ? I'm pretty sure, by all this years there must had been better improvement done in that device!

Once a proper replication plan or video is posted, everyone can start experimenting with it and study its behaviour , research , etc.. Even
an person with zero EE skills would start his adventerous journey with excitement and wonderful discovery towards this device.

a very straight forward answer is expected  :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0R4Pinl5rE


Regards and respect to you.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 05:48:29 PM
With all due respect,
I'm not a lost memory backup tape .
Information is available in this forum, and it is plenty of it, you just need to dig for it.
I don't write  to satisfied anyone  on demand.

I went to all of your comments.
You have good English, and understanding of Russian, to the certain extent.
Because my presence on this forum is voluntary, I can base on my feelings.
And of course like a typical human animal I can be wrong.

So I don't cooperate, don't work, and don't help Russian aggressors its trolls, its snitches, and its proxies,
unless I have a reason to do so.

I wish you all the best, happy new year.
Wesley

Hello,
With all due respect,
Quote
Information is available in this forum, and it is plenty of it, you just need to dig for it.
Why not layout a proper plan, schamtic or video ! I dig it, all post's , took more than 3 weeks , maybe more, not sure.
Everything is scattered.I read a post of you saying i T-1000 is technical guy and i do theory and will share proper device construction in next week. (something along those lines, please don't ask me which post number, because then i need to dig whole bunch of pages one more time  :( . But then out of nowhere you brought up your own device box which is OU!, with big rectangle plates if my memory serves well, and then there was no device construction post from your end regarding this lithuiana cada' coil device.)

Quote
I don't write  to satisfied anyone  on demand.
I totally respect, no one does either.

Quote
I went to all of your comments.
You have good English, and understanding of Russian, to the certain extent.
Because my presence on this forum is voluntary, I can base on my feelings.
And of course like a typical human animal I can be wrong.

I use google translate . I dont understand RU language, since you are in moderator group, my IP lookup can tell you my country - offtopic.
Everyone has a voluntary service on any open source forum, we all float in same boat. But you are exception because you understand more
than rest of the cloud, its due to your profession of being an scientist.So we expect some extra spoonfeeding from buddy like you. ofcourse we all can be wrong.

Quote
You are  very active contributor, especially   in area of Russian language  sources.
I never had / have - any account in any RU forum, nor did i shared any material on any of RU platform. I'm only active on OU
community.  If you want we can skype and i can show you my place/face,  and city where i stay, language and you will be sure about my IP is from with my country. No proxies  ;D

Quote
So I don't cooperate, don't work, and don't help Russian aggressors its trolls, its snitches, and its proxies,
unless I have a reason to do so.
Sure, afterall it's everyone's personal choice.

Quote
I wish you all the best, happy new year.
Same to you and have a blessed life, all of us.

I really appreciate your efforts, and knowledge  8)

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 05:56:11 PM
@stivep,

Hello.

No worries  :D you edited. Maybe my language barrier, not native english speaker..but no worries

Stay healthy and strong :)

Regards and respect
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 04, 2023, 06:22:00 PM
I use google translate . I dont understand RU language,
I am very much amazed with your skills.
Some articles can't be translated with google translator.
You saying that you don't understand Russian,
- but you are posting  very old article from Russian newspaper
  existing only in picture form, and still understand pretty well what it says in it.
  Your genius is absolutely unexplainable to me,

 Re: Working Kapanadze Generator Circuit! (https://overunity.com/19309/working-kapanadze-generator-circuit/msg572658/#msg572658) « Reply #40 on: December 25, 2022, 05:03:22 PM »
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 06:34:40 PM
Most of the images and words / knowledge i extracted from https://energyscience.ru/topic517.html
(I even linked this source in my post while posting images) no secrets  :-*

There they got active discussion with 3-4 thread's. Account creation is disable there, no account needed.

the Bunks topic  ::)

--
All 3 topics are with BUNK's device , all images are extracted from there.

Installing Bunk & Googledrome
https://energyscience.ru/topic480.html

QUESTION / ANSWERS on the installation of the BUNK
https://energyscience.ru/topic517.html

Crazy Ideas (Uncensored)
https://energyscience.ru/topic135.html
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 04, 2023, 06:49:05 PM
unfortunately none of OCR editors was able to work with that particular picture  text.
including link you  suggested me to use .
e.g :Online OCR Editor for Converting Image Into Text  was  not performing  at all.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 06:55:32 PM
unfortunately none of OCR editors was able to work with that particular picture  text.
including link you  suggested me to use .
e.g :Online OCR Editor for Converting Image Into Text  was  not performing  at all.

Wesley

But i don't remember translating that specific image.
and i never posted any translated image, i just posted images as is , and content copy/paste from that forum - within that 3 topics.

For me, in chrome , translation extension works. select the area and click.

If you want i can make an video, let me know! (I posted a video buddy, check below post)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on January 04, 2023, 06:59:47 PM
Video  :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 04, 2023, 08:36:17 PM
Well, I like Bunk device better then any costly apparatus
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 04, 2023, 09:14:18 PM
Well, I like Bunk device better then any costly apparatus


(5) бунк - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wClnOaWio0w)
Supply wires spotted.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on January 04, 2023, 10:16:56 PM
This video was modified, orginally it doesn't contain the last part with different bulb .Somebody hard tried /
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Dog-One on January 05, 2023, 03:41:09 AM
(5) бунк - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wClnOaWio0w)
Supply wires spotted.

Okay, maybe.  How about this one (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-105.html#p29221) with the DC ballast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gbSDOlaD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gbSDOlaD0)

WILL (https://energyscience.ru/member/WILL/) even describes the operation method which Bunk (https://energyscience.ru/member/%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BA/) confirms to be correct (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-105.html#p29315).  That's probably the most cordial dialog I've seen with Bunk.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on January 05, 2023, 08:30:54 AM
Dear Sirs!

 >:( :'( :( Do you understand what you bring here?

It's the same, light bulb glows:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op_J1fgK4Pc
Only unlike your videos, this video is honest humor.
When you post videos of scammers speaking languages that the community does not understand, you are discrediting this forum and its members.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on January 05, 2023, 09:01:15 AM
Okay, maybe.  How about this one (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-105.html#p29221) with the DC ballast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gbSDOlaD0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gbSDOlaD0)

WILL (https://energyscience.ru/member/WILL/) even describes the operation method which Bunk (https://energyscience.ru/member/%D0%B1%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BA/) confirms to be correct (https://energyscience.ru/topic480-105.html#p29315).  That's probably the most cordial dialog I've seen with Bunk.


I went through all that forum.
Bunk says different things. If you compare his first setup  with the last one there is a big difference.
First one had clear Tesla Coil segment with a few turns receiving antenna and then  separated conversion tube segment- long solenoid feed from that antenna and bifiliar pick up coil, no aluminium foil.
Last ones have aluminium foil on the tube, do not have Tesla Coil or any HV coil at all- and looks like he is just feeding EH antenna from some HV ignition module.
Worth to try.
But to be honest, I don't think you can heat up a large resistive heating element to red from 9 V battery, like he did on one video.
Too good to be true.


Cheers,
Pix


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 16, 2023, 10:08:41 PM
BTG 4-5kW/h
Neutrino Power Cube мощностью 5-6 кВт. Бестопливный генератор.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM5qzaMpx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM5qzaMpx4)

 FE   5-6kW/h  for  24h a day
https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54 (https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54)
English

Quote
The Centre for Materials for Electronics Technology (C-MET) in Pune, India, deepens cooperation with the Neutrino Energy Group. CEO Holger
Thorsten Schubart has also worked with Dr. Bharat Kale and one of his colleagues to develop the Car Pi. Car Pi
is a prototypical metamaterial vehicle to be powered by Neutrinovoltaic Technology.
The Neutrino Energy Group’s proposed electric vehicle will be powered, with the endless stream of elementary particles,
electromagnetic waves, temperature differences, electrosmog, neutrinos and others totally independent from the grid and charging stations.
https://neutrino-energy.com/powercube-neutrinovoltaic/ (https://neutrino-energy.com/powercube-neutrinovoltaic/)


I do not endorse yet  such revelation
I  have  heard about it just few minutes   ago
I need a time to evaluate it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 16, 2023, 10:30:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feUCLSabXRA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feUCLSabXRA)
Paul Thibado Jan 22 2022, Advanced Propulsion & Energy Harvesting, Neutrinovoltaic Effect


main channel videos:
https://www.youtube.com/@neutrinoenergy/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@neutrinoenergy/videos)


 FE   5-6kW/h  for  24h a day
https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54 (https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 16, 2023, 11:58:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RzHIlkn9fk
 in Russian translation from German.
 How it works
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 17, 2023, 08:32:48 PM
 Before I go to cube Free Energy device   5-6kW/h with deeper explanation I have
-unfinished subject about     Lithuania experiment:
 Re: Lithuania OU Experiment - Wesley's Theory + schematic+ explanation+step by step (https://overunity.com/19335/lithuania-ou-experiment-wesleys-theory-schematic-explanationstep-by-step/msg573314/#msg573314) « Reply #45 on: January 15, 2023, 04:44:08 AM »


Wesley




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 17, 2023, 08:37:12 PM
In the meantime  I'll entertain you with two  videos:
the subject was touched in Russian  language  by  Sergey Katchan
But I have it in English directly  from Veritasium

So the story is divided on two videos
 -first  video  presents the phenomena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyQwgBAaBag

-The second video talks about a $10 000 bet with a professor from college.
At the end Veritasium wins  the money  and the professor agrees to  losing the battle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCsgoLc_fzI

In Russian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X_TM9N0DyM

Wesley
Title: How Electricity Actually Works
Post by: Dog-One on January 17, 2023, 11:38:56 PM
In the meantime  I'll entertain you with two  videos:

Great videos Wesley!  Thank you for posting.

Here's another from Veritasium (https://www.youtube.com/@veritasium/videos) I think everyone that reads overunity.com should watch and fully understand.  Things don't work the way our analogies describe them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI_X2cMHNe0)

Now it's a matter of finding and fixing our mistakes...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on January 18, 2023, 05:31:59 PM
BTG 4-5kW/h
Neutrino Power Cube мощностью 5-6 кВт. Бестопливный генератор.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM5qzaMpx4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQM5qzaMpx4)

 FE   5-6kW/h  for  24h a day
https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54 (https://youtu.be/6YEO8Qit1Bw?t=54)
English
https://neutrino-energy.com/powercube-neutrinovoltaic/ (https://neutrino-energy.com/powercube-neutrinovoltaic/)


I do not endorse yet  such revelation
I  have  heard about it just few minutes   ago
I need a time to evaluate it.

Wesley

 Information delivered  by lancaIV:
The Neutrino Powercube with estimated 11 000 Euros market entry price and 5-6 KW
output per hour means by 10 years capital reamortization,without tax, 2,5 Euro-cents for
each nonstop generated electric KWh.
Birminghams NanoBOXX with 40 US$/KW estimated production costs and assuming
x10 : over head-costs and MLM-end price +- 400 US$/KW would mean
0,46 US$cent/KWh nonstop electric generated energy !
0,46 UScent / 2,5 Eurocents
NanoBOXX,by given condition,80% cheaper than the Neutrini Powercube !


Wesley




   
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 24, 2023, 09:24:03 AM
Here is the update-at this point, using 36v @ 160 ma. battery power, I can semi-light 2- 25w parallel 110v bulbs --a 33ohm load--at 15-22 MHz with what appears to be 95% efficiency.
I can get a bit more brightness by connecting the bulbs straight to the batterys.The outside GND is about useless here, though with a 100 pF cap,it does contribute some.
Contrast this with using an AC variable power supply and the GND is almost essential.Though plugging in a small fan in the same outlet will affect the system,occasionally killing the resonance.
--all depends on how its tuned,where the wires are laying,what frequency its running at, etc.Dealing with RF systems is quite different,they run cool if tuned to its max which is a task in itsel
f--lots of 'what if I did this.' After trying to squeeze every last bit of power to light the bulbs,It just one day switched,the voltage went to 28v from 18v and the current dropped to 100ma from 450ma.
Frequency dropped also from 27-33MHz down to 18-24MHz.
  This system is an ongoing project-if  anyone tries it- WATCH the input power from the antennae into the amp.Im using a 560 ohm + 2uH to limit the current and freq so the input is
 not overloaded and operates within a small freq band apparently decided by my surroundings.. The big transformer is not needed,amp will still light the bulbs.I tried the transformer
 hoping to increase the voltage out--it did not.Transformer is transparent at these frequecies.I found also this trfmr is more compatible with this system because of the low inductance
 of the secondary wires.If I got into the 1mH and above range, it barely,if not failed, to work.Im using an 85k pot to adjust the unit off and on because of BEMF from the Trfmr.It being
switched, blew out another IRFD1Z2 output I had to replace.This amp was meant to run at 24v max but Ive shorted all 3 of mine at 24v and now have a 100v IRFD1Z2 as the final, in 2
of them,the third has the input out and not useable yet.Now its the voltage regulators I worry about.--If you try this system, its the tuning that is the bear.Every wire,its placement,its size,
 length,every component all make a difference.I started with a 5w 120v bulb.I now seem to be at a point where it does not care much.It turns on consistenly.
 System -from my calculation-sees a 514 ohm output load with a single 25w and 240 ohm load with 2x 25w bulbs.My components are in the uH and pF ranges,the system will
occasionally try  27MHz but falls back.Im going to treat this system as an VHF RF system and try shielded cable,the T200-2 ferrite for up to 30 MHz,UNUN,BALUN,loop antennae
output,etc.Note that this is not like my CB where I lit 2x25w bulbs @ 13v 1.4a,that was a fixed frequency,this system is a self-resonant style picking up from my surroundings.
What is unusual is it occasionally tends toward the 27MHz and the lower freq. the CB also tried to fall into.I see this resonant system as holding a microphone up to a speaker.Its a feedback style.
Have you heard about HOLCOMB ENERGY SYSTEMS --for 1 kilowatt in it puts out 3kW.they are on U-tube.ASTRA ENERGY has joined them.Their device looks like a motour stator with another stator
inside.See the video..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: magnetstoo on January 25, 2023, 08:43:32 PM
After looking into the amp--which appears ok--.Im sitting here looking at this wide-band Linear amp alone, with a 125v 25w bulb in series with its gnd at 36vdc 80ma and it is "almost" as bright....but if I insert the 1.1uH in series with the gnd---no bulb...Running the 125v 25w directly to the 36vdc battery, brightness is sooo much better at 80ma, than using the amp at 36vdc 15MHz which now appears as a lossy system.---So perhaps this unit may be good for something in experimenting with RF Feedback.I thought I had something to show you guys.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on February 02, 2023, 09:06:03 AM
any thoughts for this ?
The guy in his other video explained in details ,the schema... check his channel

Construction of Resonance Generators, ver 1.3 (Kapanadze Jabriek)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJg9HhGka4
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on February 02, 2023, 06:02:59 PM
Thank you for your video.
what frequency it operates  at?
can you draw schematic?

Wesley

Hello,

Glad you replied  to atleast one of my post ;D

schematic and explanation in this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnj3kn9CiQM

@wesley, please , we need your input on this thread https://overunity.com/19335/lithuania-ou-experiment-wesleys-theory-schematic-explanationstep-by-step/msg573502/#msg573502

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on February 03, 2023, 04:24:08 PM
v1.3 schema https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aD4I2UrZW64
video v1.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJg9HhGka4
---
v1.0 details
Some more info on above schema in video -
Gathered from video comment's, authors replies


- Primary 2.5mm, secondary 0.4mm 200Turn.
- black box is, Switching power supply 30v from epson printer.
- d209l bipolar transistor.
- copper plate rolled on the pipe.
(the more and the longer the number of coils and copper plates, the more maximum results will be obtained)
- Capacitor bipolar 35v 1500uf.
- pvc pipe 2inch.

2nd screenshot attached, wherein comments the author says, he would post in/out measurements in next video.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on February 10, 2023, 04:35:41 PM
I received this personal message from user Boja who's unable to post it on forum :


Hello!I am a new user, my post has not been published on this forum for three days, for some reason!..Bunk is not really a cheater!He is made a deceiver by those who benefit from it!....I hope, you post these links about the bunk on this forum:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBPQbTj8PD2rJ95kVj8NYFDUsKG18153/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBPQbTj8PD2rJ95kVj8NYFDUsKG18153/view?usp=share_link)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q4JOQIUFv2MTWfjtpRrH5wDWptSwkr_8/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q4JOQIUFv2MTWfjtpRrH5wDWptSwkr_8/view?usp=share_link)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/16yLKbDD01SL7QPfj3fVAPVhmGoRAEloq/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16yLKbDD01SL7QPfj3fVAPVhmGoRAEloq/view?usp=share_link)Thank you in advance!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on February 10, 2023, 04:53:04 PM
I received this personal message from user Boja who's unable to post it on forum :


Hello!I am a new user, my post has not been published on this forum for three days, for some reason!..Bunk is not really a cheater!He is made a deceiver by those who benefit from it!....I hope, you post these links about the bunk on this forum:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBPQbTj8PD2rJ95kVj8NYFDUsKG18153/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VBPQbTj8PD2rJ95kVj8NYFDUsKG18153/view?usp=share_link)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q4JOQIUFv2MTWfjtpRrH5wDWptSwkr_8/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q4JOQIUFv2MTWfjtpRrH5wDWptSwkr_8/view?usp=share_link)


https://drive.google.com/file/d/16yLKbDD01SL7QPfj3fVAPVhmGoRAEloq/view?usp=share_link (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16yLKbDD01SL7QPfj3fVAPVhmGoRAEloq/view?usp=share_link)Thank you in advance!

Even i received same PM.

If bunk device is for real, then bunk should open source schematic.

I'm sure bunk is reading this forum.

regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on February 16, 2023, 04:54:37 PM
How is this product of yours different from the Wankel rotary engine?
Only a modified form of the rotor?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 17, 2023, 07:51:29 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PoJ-hNphBg
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 18, 2023, 10:31:25 PM
Wes what will stop a piston after power stroke?
Stoppers are shown here. They can be fixed or spring operated.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 19, 2023, 12:10:03 AM
function of combustion chamber shown horizontally
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Grumage on February 19, 2023, 03:05:05 PM
Dear Wesley.

No amount of flywheel will make the rotor turn with the present rendition, You’re just pressurising a chamber. You need to have the rotor able to move within a space that allows for expansion.

https://media.giphy.com/media/8QwLCDBTXAyxa/giphy.gif

Cheers Graham.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 21, 2023, 07:15:35 PM
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 21, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
part A
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 22, 2023, 12:56:53 PM
Steps of process.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 22, 2023, 06:38:07 PM
Updated  information about steps of process.
Explanation of the  phases  provided .
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 26, 2023, 04:16:57 AM
 interesting  fact:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US4503013 (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4503013)
Quote
a two farad capacitor charged to 10,000 volts will store 108 joules of energy which
is approximately the same potential energy in one gallon of gasoline.
However, the gallon of gasoline requires 10,000 gallons of air and a relatively long period of time to release its total energy.
The same energy stored on the capacitor may be dissipated in a millisecond by dumping the charge into a resistive load.
I have in my posession mentioned in the patent  Cober 606 31kW 2.5kV 12.5A  w/exchangeable  plug in generator  module- regulated up to 1 MHz rep rate   and  Cober 605P  24kW 2.2kV too.
 Model 606, High Power Pulse Generator, Cober Electronics, Stanford, Conn.31kW 0.05-3000ms pulse. so we talking about  picoseconds rise time ( rise time)
for example  when connected to 200 Ohm resistor in series with RF coil gives  magnetic field to Voltage ratio of 0.05G/V.
These generators works from regular outlet 110V 15A fuse .
They  are very inexpensive now  ( originally  more than  Mercedes).
especially good for  my application  where   I can have RF  pulse  of 31KW into Tesla Coil  winded with  28 gauge of wire  . Because impulse is in ns/us range  wire on secondary will never blow.

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nightlife on February 26, 2023, 04:30:02 AM
 The trick is to have the capacitor release enough energy to move a 2 ton rolling object 15 miles like the gallon of gasoline can.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on February 26, 2023, 06:51:24 AM
Free Energy 45watts Input and 200 watts output 450% gain Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NlOTJCJrP8

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 26, 2023, 01:30:27 PM
High Power Pulse Generator, Cober Electronics, Stanford, Conn Cober 606 31kW 2.5kV 12.5A  regulated up to 1 MHz rep rate   and  Cober 605P  24kW 2.4kV too.Model 606,.31kW 0.05-3000ms pulse. so we talking about  picoseconds rise time ( rise time)
For example  when connected to 200 Ohm resistor in series with RF coil gives  magnetic field to Voltage ratio of 0.05G/V.
These generators works from regular outlet 110V 15A fuse .
They  are very inexpensive now  ( originally  more than  Mercedes).
Especially good for  my application  where   I can have RF  pulse  of 31KW into Tesla Coil  winded with  28 gauge of wire  . Because impulse is in ns/us range  wire on secondary will never blow.
Wesley
Same as in radars the pulse is  very short DC but  Raise  time and Fall time of  an impulse is  AC that is  ps/ns spike.So it is very characteristic and good (for tuning )
of Tesla coil at longer distances  of A to B energy transfer as Dr James Corum did. Pulse is still  visible to oscilloscope or connected  receiver (Rx)
Exactly the same   is taking place in  nature but lightning doesn't have such  characteristic pattern.   
It can be compared to early 1900 spark Tx  on Spectrum Analyzer  it shows as  lobe with dominating frequency.

Because it is  not that easy  for a beginner to tune Tesla Tx/ Rx  to send  energy from NY to Los Angeles:
-  if test receiver (Rx) is in the car it is easy to stop it on the side of the road connect ground
to any resonant circuit acting as an antenna detect  spike ( signal), find leading frequency and  send information to  distant Tesla Coil Rx operator  helping him to tune it.
- However to get energy from the interface  there is a need to have proper antenna  like Tesla coil in vertical position with  spectrum analyzer connected to it   and properly tuned.
So observing spike with  resonant circuit  works only  for line of sight propagation in the air just to know where is approximate  pick of frequency of the spike, while suggested 16-18kHz
 for Tesla Coil Tx can be achieved if Tx with  Cober  606 is connected to the tuned  resonant tank . e.g tuned Tesla Coil at Tx - vertical  polarization (this coil  position is a must)
(We talking about  Energy Transfer  from A to B using Air/ Earth  interface for  Zenneck Surface wave trapped in it in TM mode,) however  discovery of  energy in the interface  for  Energy Extraction  is done similar  way
 The only difference is that   naturally deposited energy in the air/earth interface in Schumann  Wavguide   has  different pattern and we don't need any Tx at all.

After that you are in business. For more advanced analysis these receivers can be used but they are not   required:
Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559526/#msg559526) « Reply #266 on: August 07, 2021, 05:43:55 PM »
something like that is  perfectly good :Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559529/#msg559529) « Reply #267 on: August 08, 2021, 02:09:26 AM »
Note: Information  provided was  mutually agreed to be published.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on February 26, 2023, 11:34:57 PM
My response to the question:
The maximum radio power for AM Broadcasting in America is 50,000 watts .
Quote
In 1934 the 50,000 clear channel station WLW in Cincinnati went on the air for five years with 500,000 watts.
The most powerful AM broadcast transmitter is 450kW operated by TransWorld Radio, island of Bonaire.
religious station at  800kHz as “Shine 800” and targets audiences across the Caribbean and South America - powerful signal is widely heard in the USA.
Cober 606 (~120 pounds ((220V 15A))  at 32kW  peak  can be pushed to f at 18/16kHz if "tuned" by tank circuit or from 0 to 300kHz if not.- with   peak amplitude in lobe  pick at 5 to 120kHz.
That is pretty similar to average lightning. And that's good for FE from air/earth interface energy  extraction at TM mode experimenters.

The difference between lightning and  Cober signal :

- ~0.03ms DC signal at 31kW having AC leading and falling edge  at ~ ps/us range Perceiving Peak Noise: You Hear The Chirp?/ having characteristic pattern as/at CW. And we know its repeatability rate. 
   We'll hear it only using Rx with  BFO. - not a big deal. (/see/ it on Spectrum Analyzer) if untreated  as a lobe having  bandwidth ~300kHz
-  compared to bandwidth of typical  AM station that  is 35kHz  (although is said 10 kHz, extending 5 kHz above and 5 kHz below the assigned center frequency.)
   Cober signal if treated by tank circuit -will be  detected or seen as  having bandwidth 300Hz to 1kHz  having  "gain" ( e.g CW propagates much much much far}
   Cober signal like generators are extremely powerful for Zenneck Wave at Tesla coil vertically polarized  Tx.  good for long range tuning Tx/Rx pair if A to B energy transfer is in mind.
  The nearest similarity  to Cober  can be  spark Tx    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark-gap_transmitter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spark-gap_transmitter)     prior to  or at early version of
  1910]Alexanderson alternator that later on was
Quote
emitting up to 200kW, and the apparatus capable of generating frequencies between 14.5 and 17.5kHz.
Lightning will be also  heard as Chirp  below 1 Hz to near 300 MHz, with a peak in the frequency spectrum near 5 to 10 kHz what-is-the-frequency-range-of-lightning (https://studybuff.com/what-is-the-frequency-range-of-lightning/#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20frequency%20range%20of%20lightning%3F%20What,lightning%20at%20distances%20beyond%2050%20km%20or%20so.) at best if your Rx has BFO
   lightning is also DC with AC leading edge and falling edge.  Lightning EM is one of contributors  of energy  trapped in the interface  if  randomly  but highly likely entering it at complex Brewster Angle
   due to the probability factor at worldwide scale, (3.5 million lightning flashes occur daily.) This Energy is dynamic - it means  - energy from interface will be "taken" only in the presence of  tuned load (Rx)
    Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg552083/#msg552083) « Reply #204 on: October 12, 2020, 12:22:12 AM »   
    Till now  this form of  energy is totally abandoned and ready to use for anyone.

  Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on March 13, 2023, 05:38:00 PM
look at  first video in previous comment and than go here:
here is another one for cogging
https://youtu.be/9JkREsSFwLA?t=294
Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 07, 2023, 12:06:48 AM
Hi Wesley,
When you have a few minutes to spare, would you be kind enough to check out this guy,
Mtech Industries - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@mtechindustries117)
He is selling for $350 a kit.
Making very bold claims, though I'm not seeing what all the hype is about.
Greatly appreciated,
Garry

In the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWO7WRNYjKw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWO7WRNYjKw)
he is showing true phenomena taking place like if you had - p–n junctionconnected to two electrical terminals  crystal diode  receiver.
Nothing special in it. there  is plenty of RF around and instead of  headset he has much more sensitive LED diode that rectifies RF.
random piece of wire antennas  of Receivers Rx are more  forgiving to impedance mismatch.

In the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-kv67a_VZY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-kv67a_VZY)  he is showing true phenomena taking place
It is Tesla coil with DC powered  generating circuit.  It is not much important how you wind it as long as you have  air transformer  with high  primary to secondary ratio.
Yes CW and CCW right and left winding combination was used by Tariel Kapanadze to lower coil  main resonance frequency but this guy does
it with cash in mind not the knowledge base  . 
Nothing special about it.

Based on his comments about "energy from stars" and  "ZPE"  I assume that although the guy is talented young wanderer 
he is still flying not so high  or possibly quite low yet - in the area of understanding phenomena in question.
There is nothing wrong in him trying to make some extra cash. You don't want to make it yourself than pay for it if you will.
He is also right about Free energy- means  Energy you don't have  to pay for. however you can do nothing (not much)with rectified nW or mW in peak.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on April 09, 2023, 05:10:29 PM

Greetings Wesley
Thank you for taking time to comment!
Reposted your comments From here
https://overunity.com/19422/topruslan/225/ (https://overunity.com/19422/topruslan/225/) (post 239)
Your Comment is about Krista’s documentary video below,
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJtcl25G0i (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJtcl25G0ic)
Krista’s you tube channel
https://m.youtube.com/@KristaAlexander/videos (https://m.youtube.com/@KristaAlexander/videos)
Krista’s newest documentary (2nd link above)
Is filled with things I have never seen before.
Hopefully when Dr.Steven Greer’s newest Documentary comes out
There will be more explanations?
Here he does interview ( preview) with  Danika Patrick
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg)


Respectfully
Chet K
PS
Hope the nicer spring weather is finding its way to you !
We need FE solutions…..
Open source FE solutions!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 10, 2023, 11:35:50 AM
Hopefully when Dr.Steven Greer’s newest Documentary comes out
There will be more explanations?
Here he does interview ( preview) with  Danika Patrick
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJawfjDLUg)
Respectfully
Chet K
In mentioned by  you YouTube
Dr Steven M. Greer is a medical doctor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer)
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"fantasy propaganda"and "a conspiracy  end of quote
April 2020.:
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Scientology-style sham," that it "rather strangely squeezes the last few years of UFO-related news coverage into a misleading frame,
arguing that journalists, pundits and the government are collaborating to build fear in the public that would justify
the establishment of a "one-world government" that could wage an "interplanetary war," and notes that "though
[Greer's] been summoning [UFOs] from across the galaxy for decades, he can never convince an alien ship
to travel an extra couple of miles and hover for a good photograph."[31] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Greer#cite_note-31)
end of quote
In  https://youtu.be/0mJawfjDLUg?t=3962 (https://youtu.be/0mJawfjDLUg?t=3962)
He is pointing at a notion about: Biefeld–Brown effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effectand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effectand)
Thomas Townsend Brown
was:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown
Few minutes later he talks about Senator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Warner's (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Warner's) son and "secret disc" with" antigravity" :)
Here is his son: https://wikitia.com/wiki/ (https://wikitia.com/wiki/)John_William_Warner_IV
                        https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/19632900.John_W_Warner_IV (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/19632900.John_W_Warner_IV)
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passion for hidden history, revisionist
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skeptic about historical records
We assume  this guy was not great in physics but  it is good thematically to some wealthy guys trying to make more ..
_____________________________

I wouldn't try  to create criticism there but  physics stand point is free area for my comments:
He never  went in that interview deep into anything.
I don't think he understand physical mechanisms he is talking about, but he can state that they exist.

I think I  would "nail" the guy   in less than 30 seconds into the quite unpleasant feeling of  a total loser in that discussion.
But that Pretty lady was kind and smiling and understanding .... whatever...

Anti-gravitation doesn't exist .
Electrostatic lifting  phenomena is explained and nothing special  about it.

Entire video  can be commented   also  as a form of typical
screenplay .
So we have need to make some
visual medium, such as film or television.
This type of script focuses on visual elements and often includes instructions about what the audience sees, such as character actions,
locations and camera angles.
But instead we had  YouTube,  1 camera, talking heads, no instructions,- improvisation, using elements like:
Hitler and secret disc, Anti-gravity, government conspiracy,  UFO, wealthy senators son, and need to activate public in fight for truth.
 

It is obvious that film is a product that should sale for money right?
How come nobody read  what  it says in Wikipedia about the artist and  a producer of  that  film.   
_____________________________

opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on April 11, 2023, 08:26:07 PM
“Our” Laws of physics are out the window in these vids ( previously shared above and …)
Here National Geographic society ( quite respected in USA)
From _UFO_visits to US capital in 1952 ( shared already in Dr.Greer vid for 20 or more ? Years
Here National Geographic doc
SECRET PENTAGON PROGRAM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt7Riw9jGlQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt7Riw9jGlQ)
  4 min mark :Again acknowledged US capital July 1952 UFO’s buzzed
US capital ( 2weekends in a row)
 7-8 minute mark “Our” laws of physics ( what is possible here)
Out the window (impossible sightings)
“Invisible” _antigravity_ unknown propulsion…
_In and out_ of reality …
and plasma type (actual light?) craft …
Planes have passed right thru huge UFO’s No adverse effects!
On and on and on ….
At least a 70 year denial from US government and ?
Makes a very bad impression…


Respectfully
Chet


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on April 12, 2023, 08:15:21 PM
ramset
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“Our” Laws of physics are out the window in these vids ( previously shared above and …)

The ufo phenomena is interesting and I saw one first hand years ago. This led me to do more research and over the years figure out how some of this stuff works. I found the ufo phenomena is well within the laws of physics the laws are just applied in a radically different way.

The problem is most people don't really understand the laws of physics. For example, what is gravity?. Everyone has studied the effects of gravity for hundreds of years but nobody can explain what it is or how it works. It's like saying we understand a car just be observing them from a distance but have never driven one, fixed one or have a clue how they even work. Strange isn't it?, we understand many things just not anything that matters like what the Primary Fields (Electric, Magnetic, Gravic) are and how they work.

I found ufo's are not anti-gravity they are unaffected by gravity. Just as superconductors do not "repel" magnetic fields they "expel" them. To repel implies one magnetic field acts against another where to expel means to remove all magnetic fields from a region without using a magnetic field to do it.

So these craft can float weightless like a balloon above the Earth just like it would in deep space where there is no gravity. Gravity is a near field phenomena that is stronger near large objects and diminishes with distance. Remove the force of gravity and everything would be floating weightless just like in space. The biggest problem is that many have been brainwashed and led to believe gravity is "something" and not a "condition of something". They have been taught not to think about gravity or question it and just pretend it exists for no apparent reason.

AC


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 12, 2023, 09:03:47 PM

 Remove the force of gravity and everything would be floating weightless just like in space.
well and how ???
I need to move my body to Honduras.
Because they don't want to put me on the plane. >:(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 15, 2023, 11:24:53 PM
"It's so simple you'll laugh".
I want to give some explanation about this comment from Tariel, because he gave it to me in a certain context.
Tariel was talking about Azil Nadir, the Turkish millionaire who was funding him at the time.
He said that at one point things seemed to be going so well that he nearly gave them the secret. He then changed his mind and became suspicious of their motives. Apparently there were rumors that  Azil Nadir was going to "blackmail" the oil-rich Arabs and had no intention of bringing the device out into the public domain.
Tariel then told me that he was agonizing about his device because once he built one then the secret could be seen by anyone who opened the device.
This aspect has caused Tariel a lot of agony because the secret cannot be hidden. It is not some fancy resonance frequency or anything like that. We even talked about putting his devices into a huge locked bulletproof metal container with 24-hour surveillance and cctv cameras.
After talking about his agony for some time he then told me that famous phrase.
This brings me back to another Kapanadze phrase. "Melnichenko was close."
Melnichenko was trying to create an over-unity transformer.
I believe Kapanadze gave away the most secrets in his very first video. After that, he became more secretive.
So now have a look at this still from the 2004 video.
What do you see? Come on guys (and galls) it's staring us in the face.
It is also NOT in any of his patent applications.
 Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: partzman on April 16, 2023, 05:21:59 PM
Aking,

After studying the 2004 video and focusing on the transformer, it would appear that the secondary is shorted and the primary wires proceed on to the remaining circuitry.  This could mean that there is a gain function in the timing of pulses to the primary and the resulting collapse of the so-called leakage inductance between the primary and secondary.  Since the core is iron, there may be core effects also in play or they may be the overall gain mechanism.  If so, is the grenade basically fluff?

regards,
Pm
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 16, 2023, 06:54:21 PM
It's not on the patent because it's number 9? or 3
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 16, 2023, 07:11:41 PM
Kapanadze explicitly mentioned several times that the principles of the device were developed by a group of people who came to such results in the process of studying gravity and antigravity.

Many people remember the beginning of the video in German, there is also about the use of gravitational forces.

What can be thought in this direction? About serious scientific research? Quantum gravity, quantum effects..

For example:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ning_Li_(physicist)
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The alignment may be possible by trapping superconductor ions in a lattice structure in a high-temperature superconducting disc.
https://youtu.be/eS_rEzKdzBA?t=137
https://quantumantigravity.wordpress.com/douglas-torr/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 16, 2023, 07:29:07 PM
a.king21: Did Kapa mention a glass container? like an vaccume tube? I've read it before but is it possible?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 16, 2023, 08:38:35 PM
Any suggestions?
About the photo of the transformer.
My opinion is that this is an ordinary old Soviet transformer with a power of about 100 watts.
Probably a transformer that lowers the voltage from 220 volts to 12 volts 5-7 amperes current, as thick leads are visible on the secondary winding.
Some have argued that this transformer looks like a transformer from a Soviet microwave oven.  But I didn't find a match. No magnetic shunts visible, no high voltage wires, no special high voltage leads.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 16, 2023, 08:47:07 PM
a.king21: Did Kapa mention a glass container? like an vaccume tube? I've read it before but is it possible?
No, but he wanted to build the first device for us inside a proper aquarium ie under water with some mechanical device working, but I said that was not acceptable.
However, on one occasion he asked me if we can get Deuterium (Heavy water) in the UK.
I said I had heard of it and it could be obtained from specialist suppliers.
Anyway, here is a link to Melnichenko's transformer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8c82ABs02M&t=605s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8c82ABs02M&t=605s)
It is claimed to be COP 150%
ie 50% Over Unity.
On one occasion a war was going on and he could not get braided cable, which I took to mean shielded co-ax.
He said the device would not work without braided cable.
He also told me the device worked on high frequency and not high voltage.  I suppose "high voltage" depends on individual understanding.
I think the device works like this:
He generates a few percent OU from the static field. This is done in L2. He then feeds the extra power into L1
Li now has the original power PLUS the extra from L2.
We now have a vortex OU field which would explode if the device did not have a parallel spark gap as a fail-safe.
The grenade coil and all that stuff are necessary for the power transfer L2 to L1.
If he indeed was doing a Tesla thing, then you have all the theory and answers in Don Smith's work.
Kapa also told me the device would overheat if not connected to an earth ground. This is entirely consistent with the vortex theory and not Tesla. An alternative to an earth ground would be the negative of a lead acid battery. (This last part is Tesla)


Why would the device overheat? Think about it: Steve Marks "TPU" overheated after a couple of hours.
If you are getting your electrons from the static field around your device, eventually this would cause heating and overheating.
By using an earth ground you are getting the electrons from the ground and NOT just the air around your device.
Kapandze even tells us he gets the electrons from the air.
High frequency and a modest high voltage do not obey Kirchof's or ohms law. The electricity is mostly on the surface of the wires. Also, HF and HV generate plasma. (As does a spark gap)
Plasma is a whole bunch of atoms with the outer electron forcibly removed. These electrons are then available to enter your device.
Additional electrons would also enter the device due to the high magnetic field created by the plasma and vortex.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on April 17, 2023, 01:04:05 AM
stivep
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If we assume  the most silly trick - it would be batteries.

I try not to make such assumptions after observing a ufo pull 100G and accelerate to 60,000 mph in under a second. Now it seems strange watching people desperate to make up excuses for anything they cannot understand. After seeing a ufo and a working FE device first hand my perspective changed.

It's strange, you don't believe something that looks like a transformer could do something different. While I saw a craft which could presumably lift off, travel to the other side of the planet and set down in under 10 seconds being conservative. As such, I think most of these FE devices are child's play compared to the advanced technology I saw. So they produced a supposed COP>1, big deal.

That's the thing isn't it?, were not all the same and by no means are we equal. Somewhere another person just invented another FE device and for them everything changed. That's pretty cool...

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 17, 2023, 03:04:07 AM
https://vk.com/id285085326 (https://vk.com/id285085326)
I am 99% certain that this is Kapanadze's secret.
Below is a comparison of Melnichenko's transformer and Kapanadze's.
It is possible that Kapanadze enclosed L2 with a copper tape capacitor to additionally capture the Magnetic field.
Anyway, there is plenty for experimenters to have a go at, just please share your stuff as it's open source anyway.
We do need your help, Wesley, in having a look at Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos[/font][/size]
https://vk.com/id285085326 (https://vk.com/id285085326)
Melnichenko's patent:-
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306)
Also, I enclose his schematic. The diodes are important in defeating losses maybe Lenz but I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 17, 2023, 04:32:52 AM
https://vk.com/id285085326 (https://vk.com/id285085326)
We do need your help, Wesley, in having a look at Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEtqI2EhN32Mvq7Wp5G9Vpg/videos)
https://vk.com/id285085326 (https://vk.com/id285085326)
Melnichenko's patent:-
https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306 (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2010117306)
Also, I enclose his schematic. The diodes are important in defeating losses maybe Lenz but I don't know for sure.
I'm not in my office for  few weeks now.
I can write simple comment in 3 minutes however in most of the day I'm unavailable.
But I'll do my best.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 17, 2023, 08:41:32 AM
Melnichenko's posts to see if he has improved his device.
My opinion about Melnichenko:
 - there is no free energy in his devices. Ordinary devices he mystifies as overunity. We did not watch the video of the device functioning without external power sources. Melnichenko does not carry out professional measurements of consumed and produced energy.

About the transformer:
 - аny experienced electrician or electronics specialist will tell you how much power such transformers are capable of operating. The transformer is most likely not rewound. Factory white labels and thermal film seem to be present. An ordinary low-frequency transformer on iron plates. Not ferrite, no high frequency.

The transformer has a primary winding wound with a thin wire, let's say 0.5 mm in diameter, and a secondary winding wound with a wire, for example 2 mm. (optimistic). The number of turns for example 1000 and 60. It is physically and geometrically impossible to get anything else from such a transformer, such as 220 volts 0.5 amperes and 12 volts 7 - 8 amperes maximum.

How to get 5 kilowatts from it? This is impossible by magnetic induction on ordinary iron transformer in such dimensions and weight.

To understand the weight and size problems of power generation, I suggest looking at some reviews and testing of portable generators. With a weight of more than 100 lb, of which more than half the weight falls on the electric generator itself, they have difficulty generating even 3 kilowatts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2HvgB0x7I
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: SolarLab on April 17, 2023, 09:43:44 AM
My opinion about Melnichenko:
 - there is no free energy in his devices. Ordinary devices he mystifies as overunity. We did not watch the video of the device functioning without external power sources. Melnichenko does not carry out professional measurements of consumed and produced energy.

About the transformer:
 - аny experienced electrician or electronics specialist will tell you how much power such transformers are capable of operating. The transformer is most likely not rewound. Factory white labels and thermal film seem to be present. An ordinary low-frequency transformer on iron plates. Not ferrite, no high frequency.

The transformer has a primary winding wound with a thin wire, let's say 0.5 mm in diameter, and a secondary winding wound with a wire, for example 2 mm. (optimistic). The number of turns for example 1000 and 60. It is physically and geometrically impossible to get anything else from such a transformer, such as 220 volts 0.5 amperes and 12 volts 7 - 8 amperes maximum.

How to get 5 kilowatts from it? This is impossible by magnetic induction on ordinary iron transformer in such dimensions and weight.

To understand the weight and size problems of power generation, I suggest looking at some reviews and testing of portable generators. With a weight of more than 100 lb, of which more than half the weight falls on the electric generator itself, they have difficulty generating even 3 kilowatts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2HvgB0x7I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN2HvgB0x7I)

Hi Sergh,
Your probably right about transformers, however have a look at Holcombs (HES) development page. It's quite
interesting and informative.

https://holcombenergysystems.com/ (https://holcombenergysystems.com/)
 Check the technical part- been discussed here and elsewhere in detail.
Regards,
SL

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 10:00:58 AM
How to get 5 kilowatts from it? This is impossible by magnetic induction on ordinary iron transformer in such dimensions and weight.

To understand the weight and size problems of power generation, I suggest looking at some reviews and testing of portable generators. With a weight of more than 100 lb, of which more
than half the weight falls on the electric generator itself, they have difficulty generating even 3 kilowatts.


In the patent it is written often with high frequency. It can't be that transformer. It's just part of item (1) I think.
The fronts that look like the rears are not the same in the drawing in the patent. In the video you can see when he changes the connections
and the return of energy is to the inverter and not to the transformer. However, I do not know this for 100% because the scheme is too simplified if we do not know what is what.

What puzzles me the most is (2) the capacitor! why is it so important that it has been listed as an exact part like the coil.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 10:09:16 AM
https://vk.com/id285085326 (https://vk.com/id285085326)
I am 99% certain that this is Kapanadze's secret.
Below is a comparison of Melnichenko's transformer and Kapanadze's.
These are ordinary spacers in transformers separating the two windings. Of course, maybe the transformer is rewound.
 I once had an idea: what if we use two different cores in one transformer and apply two frequencies to each separately? Is it possible that Kapanadze put a ferrite core in the iron core?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 17, 2023, 01:18:02 PM
Melnichenko is  a very  inteesting variation of flyback converter.
In typical flyback:
-magnetic path is closed, no air gaps
-primary (magnetizing coil) is switched on/off, there is no energy harvest from back emf on primary
-primary and secondary are close coupled


In Melnichenko flyback:
-magnetic path is opened, there is a large air gap, secondary is separated from primary
-back emf from primary is captured( blocking diode)
-primary and secondary are loosely coupled,about 10%


In Melnichenko basically weak field from primary coil that is moved away from secondary is magnetizing iron core, and by nonlinear action of core permeability many times stronger magnetic field is created in that iron core. No back EMF is created in secondary during magnetization because of blocking diode- hence no Lenz applies.
Once power to primary is cut , strong magnetic field in the iron core collapses, inducing current in secondary coil wound on that core. Magnetic field from the core permeates surrounding air and only small part of that field influences primary coil.


Magnetic energy is not stored in the closed magnetic core, energy is stored in the air.
Looking at the TMZ company presentation, device is fairy small and reminds a transformer or bigger choke.
Kapanadze 3 KW TMZ Turkey 4 / 4 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YijfjOZucN8)


Cheers,
Pix


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 01:39:19 PM
I did some tests like Melnichenko's but I didn't get an increase over 1. Yes there is some energy recovery from the core and something seems to be happening but it's all within the energy input.
If Kapanadze mentions Melnichenko, maybe it's just similar, because many devices can be classified as completely different.
However, one needs to remember that someone also found on Kapanadze's computer a diagram of the Budynny transformer, or more precisely, the fuser on the transformer. The sound of an overloaded transformer is clearly audible in the movies, but nothing can be heard in others.
To get 5kW I find it hard to believe that it can be done with HV. The magnetic field is more real. To feel 2kW, see how an induction cooker works. Typically 80-140kHz varies but 2kW of power can be had on 0.5mm or thinner wire. The device itself is light, very light if I only have electricity from the socket :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 17, 2023, 01:48:14 PM
I did some tests like Melnichenko's but I didn't get an increase over 1. Yes there is some energy recovery from the core and something seems to be happening but it's all within the energy input.
If Kapanadze mentions Melnichenko, maybe it's just similar, because many devices can be classified as completely different.
However, one needs to remember that someone also found on Kapanadze's computer a diagram of the Budynny transformer, or more precisely, the fuser on the transformer. The sound of an overloaded transformer is clearly audible in the movies, but nothing can be heard in others.
To get 5kW I find it hard to believe that it can be done with HV. The magnetic field is more real. To feel 2kW, see how an induction cooker works. Typically 80-140kHz varies but 2kW of power can be had on 0.5mm or thinner wire. The device itself is light, very light if I only have electricity from the socket :)


Did you had a decent separation between magnetizing coil and secondary coil?
Secondary coil core should have minimum residual magnetisation.
The bigger relative permeability, the better gain effect.
I found that setup most promising and going to test.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 17, 2023, 02:17:10 PM



Re transformer size.
 We don't know Kapanadze's  core composition
EEs keep posting stuff as if we are working at 50 or 60 hz.
I wish they would stop it and look at the effect high frequency has on transformers.
Also, they should refresh their theory on resonance at high voltage and maybe study Oliver Lodge.
Also, study Tesla's hairpin circuit which is a dead short in conventional EE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqmqQisQVuo
Also, look at Tesla's capacitors in that circuit and try it with 50 or 60hz. (I did!)
At High-frequency the transformer size shrinks. Look at switched-mode power supplies and how the transformer has shrunk as an example.
Also at high frequencies and HV you are dealing with plasma and a massively increased magnetic field. Get yourself a magnetometer
and stop looking at scopes with education designed for 50 or 60 HZ. Then we might make some progress.
Additionally, when you separate L1 and L2 you are dealing with transmission through the air, so a good knowledge of transmission theory would be a good idea especially the effect of quarter-wave antennas.
Conventional Kirkhoff's law and OHMS law do not apply in this research except at the very end of a device when you are plugging in an appliance.
 Nor can you use Spice, unless you define new terms based on experimental results.
There is absolutely no substitute from building stuff yourself and seeing how the results differ from theory.
I am just trying to be helpful and trying to stop bad scientific advice.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 02:23:21 PM

Did you had a decent separation between magnetizing coil and secondary coil?
Secondary coil core should have minimum residual magnetisation.
The bigger relative permeability, the better gain effect.
I found that setup most promising and going to test.

I made various air gaps. I worked with different cores, different shapes as well. Different voltages and different frequencies.
I'll tell you one thing: the current flows or it doesn't. There's no miraculous setting where I'll get a big kick for even a moment to say I found this moment but I don't know how it happened that now it doesn't work. None of these things.
I don't know what Melnichenko sees there, but he certainly didn't show it clearly.
There is even another explanation for what is happening in the barium ferrite core, that is the NMR process. However, it would require a lot of luck to hit this effect, if it is possible to obtain it at all.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 02:28:52 PM


Re transformer size.
 We don't know Kapanadze's  core composition
EEs keep posting stuff as if we are working at 50 or 60 hz.
I wish they would stop it and look at the effect high frequency has on transformers.
Also, they should refresh their theory on resonance at high voltage and maybe study Oliver Lodge.
Also, study Tesla's hairpin circuit which is a dead short in conventional EE. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqmqQisQVuo
Also, look at Tesla's capacitors in that circuit and try it with 50 or 60hz. (I did!)
At High-frequency the transformer size shrinks. Look at switched-mode power supplies and how the transformer has shrunk as an example.
Also at high frequencies and HV you are dealing with plasma and a massively increased magnetic field. Get yourself a magnetometer
and stop looking at scopes with education designed for 50 or 60 HZ. Then we might make some progress.
Additionally, when you separate L1 and L2 you are dealing with transmission through the air, so a good knowledge of transmission theory would be a good idea especially the effect of quarter-wave antennas.
Conventional Kirkhoff's law and OHMS law do not apply in this research except at the very end of a device when you are plugging in an appliance.
 Nor can you use Spice, unless you define new terms based on experimental results.
There is absolutely no substitute from building stuff yourself and seeing how the results differ from theory.
I am just trying to be helpful and trying to stop bad scientific advice.

What would the same look like for 5kW lamp ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 17, 2023, 02:38:40 PM
Allow me to present my vision of this Kapanadze device. This is a conceptual model, it is incomplete, inoperable in this form, etc.
There were suggestions about such a device based on the analysis of small amount information from Internet, the dissemination of which Tariel opposed.
The main completely unusual and incomprehensible detail is a quantum gravitational nanostructured pulsed power cell.  :)
Structurally, it can be like a small battery, similar to CR2032 or another this type. By the way, you can try, discharged elements of similar types should respond to impulse of mechanical pressure.
How it supposedly works:
- a small rechargeable power cell with a very large output current of several tens of amperes, but a very short discharge time of 0.001 - 0.005 seconds. It can probably work both independently or with the supply of the necessary chemicals, liquid or gaseous.
I observed a similar mechanism some time ago in experiments with pulsed electrolysis. If a current pulse is applied to the electrolysis cell, then immediately after the pulse, the cell remains charged up to several volts due to the hydrogen remaining on the electrodes.
You can also make a similar experiment by taking any discharged battery and applying a current pulse to it for several seconds with a voltage several times higher than the nominal, after then immediately measuring the voltage on the element.
But in this experiment is no free energy, it is only an explanation of the mechanism.
It is necessary to find a way to produce hydrogen "on demand", as Tariel did in his "Auto on Water".

The mechanical system of the L2 bobbin and the magnets and cells located inside it can probably work independently for a short time due to mechanical resonance, until desynchronization and weakening of the process occurs due to the consumption of the necessary substance. You can see it in this video with 12:35:
https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765 (https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 17, 2023, 04:06:30 PM
Allow me to present my vision of this Kapanadze device. This is a conceptual model, it is incomplete, inoperable in this form, etc.
There were suggestions about such a device based on the analysis of small amount information from Internet, the dissemination of which Tariel opposed.
The main completely unusual and incomprehensible detail is a quantum gravitational nanostructured pulsed power cell.  :)
Structurally, it can be like a small battery, similar to CR2032 or another this type. By the way, you can try, discharged elements of similar types should respond to impulse of mechanical pressure.
How it supposedly works:
- a small rechargeable power cell with a very large output current of several tens of amperes, but a very short discharge time of 0.001 - 0.005 seconds. It can probably work both independently or with the supply of the necessary chemicals, liquid or gaseous.
I observed a similar mechanism some time ago in experiments with pulsed electrolysis. If a current pulse is applied to the electrolysis cell, then immediately after the pulse, the cell remains charged up to several volts due to the hydrogen remaining on the electrodes.
You can also make a similar experiment by taking any discharged battery and applying a current pulse to it for several seconds with a voltage several times higher than the nominal, after then immediately measuring the voltage on the element.
But in this experiment is no free energy, it is only an explanation of the mechanism.
It is necessary to find a way to produce hydrogen "on demand", as Tariel did in his "Auto on Water".

The mechanical system of the L2 bobbin and the magnets and cells located inside it can probably work independently for a short time due to mechanical resonance, until desynchronization and weakening of the process occurs due to the consumption of the necessary substance. You can see it in this video with 12:35:
https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765 (https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765)

If you spend a lot of time analyzing all the videos and how each device works, you will understand that there is not much in common. I don't want to talk about everything because everyone can see it, but in my opinion it is not possible or rather very unlikely that there is more than one rule! Tariel was definitely cunning and didn't reveal any important information that we would have seen in the film. I will say more, I believe that even one of the films is specially made to mislead people.

In the video from 2004 there is a moment of turning off the device and the sound is unprecedented. It is not a transformer, although it is closest to this sound. I have a sound analysis and there are frequencies around 380-400Hz with modulation around 25-26Hz If sound can tell us anything.
Kapanadze said that it is the switching of the electro-magnet on and off and the impulse gives us what we need. The amount of energy of this impulse is unlimited.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 17, 2023, 09:44:05 PM
Still nobody translated 2004 video or any other. How do you know Tariel hide details if you don't know what he said ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 17, 2023, 11:25:02 PM
I made various air gaps. I worked with different cores, different shapes as well. Different voltages and different frequencies.
I'll tell you one thing: the current flows or it doesn't. There's no miraculous setting where I'll get a big kick for even a moment to say I found this moment but I don't know how it happened that now it doesn't work. None of these things.
I don't know what Melnichenko sees there, but he certainly didn't show it clearly.
There is even another explanation for what is happening in the barium ferrite core, that is the NMR process. However, it would require a lot of luck to hit this effect, if it is possible to obtain it at all.
Did you use the diodes in the way he tells us?  He says that the diodes are very, very important as they negate losses =  I speculate maybe negates Lenz?
Clearly, pulsed squarewave with variable duty cycles and frequencies is the experiment to be conducted here.
Also, use a magnetometer and see which frequency/duty cycle combination gives the biggest magnetic field.
Also, use very fast diodes. No two diode types are the same.
He also says that you can keep the transformer together by using ordinary cheap insulation tape.
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 17, 2023, 11:41:33 PM
What would the same look like for 5kW lamp ?
I did not assume that he drives the lamps from the transformer.
Clearly, the output comes from the grenade-type coil which has sufficient wire thickness.
However,  there is nothing to stop the big coils from receiving energy from the 100-watt transformer, especially if it is in the MHz range[size=78%].[/size]
We really have to think outside the box and think "simple is best".
To quote Elon Musk: "The best component is no component. There is no cost and no possibility of failure.
What can you remove..."
Remember that resonance requires the wires including tail ends to be precise.
What we see in the Kapanadze videos is unbelievable. People with kitchen knives cutting wires to size in front of the cameras.
It is beyond ridiculous because they knew that they had some knowledge that we don't.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 18, 2023, 12:27:07 AM
Allow me to present my vision of this Kapanadze device. This is a conceptual model, it is incomplete, inoperable in this form, etc.
There were suggestions about such a device based on the analysis of small amount information from Internet, the dissemination of which Tariel opposed.
The main completely unusual and incomprehensible detail is a quantum gravitational nanostructured pulsed power cell.  :)
Structurally, it can be like a small battery, similar to CR2032 or another this type. By the way, you can try, discharged elements of similar types should respond to impulse of mechanical pressure.
How it supposedly works:
- a small rechargeable power cell with a very large output current of several tens of amperes, but a very short discharge time of 0.001 - 0.005 seconds. It can probably work both independently or with the supply of the necessary chemicals, liquid or gaseous.
I observed a similar mechanism some time ago in experiments with pulsed electrolysis. If a current pulse is applied to the electrolysis cell, then immediately after the pulse, the cell remains charged up to several volts due to the hydrogen remaining on the electrodes.
You can also make a similar experiment by taking any discharged battery and applying a current pulse to it for several seconds with a voltage several times higher than the nominal, after then immediately measuring the voltage on the element.
But in this experiment is no free energy, it is only an explanation of the mechanism.
It is necessary to find a way to produce hydrogen "on demand", as Tariel did in his "Auto on Water".

The mechanical system of the L2 bobbin and the magnets and cells located inside it can probably work independently for a short time due to mechanical resonance, until desynchronization and weakening of the process occurs due to the consumption of the necessary substance. You can see it in this video with 12:35:
https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765 (https://youtu.be/2oGHuHy-xEc?t=765)
Very interesting observation.
When I was asked by my financial backer to design the specifications for the Aquarium 2 device, I made some specific requirements.
1 No switching: I watched the Aquarium 1 video and saw Kapanadze blow a transistor when switching between various devices. This told me immediately that he was no engineer. It would have been simplicity itself to put easily reachable fuses all over the device to protect the circuitry. I would have done - especially in front of potential investors.
2 The device had to output 2 kilowatts for hours and hours. It did; and worked for 4 and a half hours before it was time to finish the demonstration.
I think that this information rules out your interesting hypothesis.
So let's keep analysing the first video because I believe it gives away the most secrets.
ANOTHER THING: I remember asking Tariel what was his first experience with his discovery. He told me he had a 1 kw incandescent lamp and it ran for a full 6 months. He said that he himself was astonished. He has spent all his subsequent life terrified of someone stealing his discovery. He is clearly tortured and takes to drink to ease the psychological pain.
He told me repeatedly that he tries to think of ways of protecting the secret so it can't be copied, but he obviously lacks the electrical engineering knowledge to do it.
  In my opinion, a really talented electrical engineer would understand the principle and be able to hide the discovery inside various circuitry. Let's say it is a transformer that he has doctored: I would make several tiny transformers and put them encased in resin inside resistors, as one way of hiding the invention. Or you can disguise the transformers as chokes for example. No doubt you can think of lots of other ways.
That is why I think the first video holds all the clues we need.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 18, 2023, 09:16:15 AM
Did you use the diodes in the way he tells us?  He says that the diodes are very, very important as they negate losses =  I speculate maybe negates Lenz?
Clearly, pulsed squarewave with variable duty cycles and frequencies is the experiment to be conducted here.
Also, use a magnetometer and see which frequency/duty cycle combination gives the biggest magnetic field.
Also, use very fast diodes. No two diode types are the same.
He also says that you can keep the transformer together by using ordinary cheap insulation tape.
I hope this helps.


Of course diodes are cruicial to use transformer as flyback.
With typical flyback converter where magnetic path is closed and 2 coils close coupled there is about 90% efficiency. It is just conversion of low voltage to higher voltage ,energy is fransferred from primary to secondary with a loss. No energy is stored in the ferromagnetic core, energy from primary is only transferred to secondary.
Diode in secondary coil is blocking current flow during magnetization, so there is no Lenz counter magnetic field from secondary.
Flyback primary is driven by pulses, or via diode if supply is sinus, we need only half period of sinus for magnetization and zero for demagnetization period.
Nothing special so far.
With Melnichenko setup, you see that magnetization coil (primary) is separaterd from the ferromagnetic core where secondary output coil is wound.
This separation is important for two reasons:
- to magnetise ferromagnetic core of secondary a weak magnetic field is enough, if you look on hysteresis graph of any soft ferromagnetic material it is nonlinear, that means small external magnetic field causes large internal magnetic field in that ferromagnetic material. Multiplication is equal to relative permeability. Transformer steel has about 4000, good nanoperms 20000-200000. This is multiplication factor of magnetic field.
- when magnetisation coil is separated from the core, during magnetisation, core creates it's own, separate amplified magnetic field. That field permeates outside core through the air and most of it ( Melnichenko says about 90%) is closing back to the core, only small portion is passing by magnetizing coil. Remember magnetic energy is stored in the air, outside core.
Once magnetisation current is interrupted, amplified field created by ferromagnetic core vanishes, collapses inducing EMF in the secondary windings.
I am going to test this setup.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 18, 2023, 10:08:08 AM
1 No switching: I watched the Aquarium 1 video and saw Kapanadze blow a transistor when switching between various devices. This told me immediately that he was no engineer. It would have been simplicity itself to put easily reachable fuses all over the device to protect the circuitry. I would have done - especially in front of potential investors.

In order for us to think correctly, we need to understand the following:


- Who is Tariel Kapanadze? Is the lone inventor?


No. He himself said this several times, on his video. Long ago there was some group of people, probably scientists, who investigated gravitational effects. Interesting results were obtained by this group, but there was no further progress in the direction of monetization. Kapanadze, and probably some others, left this group and began aggressive marketing.


And you yourself saw how many people's near theses devices.

   It is probably necessary to perceive Kapanadze as a project manager. Or even as a brand, a public relations person.

   Transformers, wires, transistors - all this is visible tinsel that performs auxiliary functions. Science in Georgia is in a bad financial situation and they will not be able to spend money to make quality prototypes.

   Developing the technology to produce of the main working element, which of course is heavily hidden, could in the past take thousands of man-hours of team work. Even if Kapanadze wanted to give clues and even reveal a secret, he had no right to leave his team hungry.
The device broke down during the demonstration to the investor - maybe it was planned that way. Why invest in a fully working device, it's easier to buy one.
You underestimate the tricks of the other side.

2 The device had to output 2 kilowatts for hours and hours. It did; and worked for 4 and a half hours before it was time to finish the demonstration.
I think that this information rules out your interesting hypothesis.
So let's keep analysing the first video because I believe it gives away the most secrets.
   I did not write anywhere that Kapanadze has a chemical power cell in the coil, the components of which are irreversibly consumed.
 If there, for example, water decomposes into oxygen and hydrogen "in situ", then it is then converted back into the same water.
Ideally, nothing from visible is consumed, and even a small supply of components can be enough for a long period of work.
I suggest watching the ancient video of Tariel Kapanadze, "Auto on the water":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIMXgLuq6gA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIMXgLuq6gA)
Kapanadze invented many different principles of free energy machines, to each what he likes? Or just one?

PS: Prehistory of "Auto on Water" Kapanadze:
For the first time this car is mentioned in the GreenBox video. In the same place, Tariel mentions the Filipino Daniel Dingel, who, as it were, stole this invention from Tariel.  :o ;D
Tariel found the info about this Filipino from the ordinary magazine "Behind the Wheel", apparently in 2001. So the invention of the "car on the water" must be dated earlier than 2001.
https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu (https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 18, 2023, 11:21:27 AM
From antigravity to hydrogen? Is it the same?
We don't know anything about the hydrogen engine. We do not know whether it was supported by fuel, e.g. gasoline or oil. We don't even know if it has anything to do with the 2004 device. There's also a pressure device that doesn't fit anything at all. This way my dishwasher fits too.

I understand that we have to take everything into account, but we don't have to take it for granted. Kapanadze has had many interests before, and they are not necessarily related. I think so.
the question is? which are the same effect? because maybe all of them.
ok. hydrogen engine: maybe it's not the engine! but about how to produce hydrogen. The only thing that came to Kapanaga's mind was the use of hydrogen for an internal combustion engine. Correct.
So our FE is a way to produce hydrogen in large quantities !!!???
Hydrogen as energy can be converted to KWh and to get 5kW you need a certain amount of hydrogen per second right.
So how much hydrogen is needed for 5kW/s?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 18, 2023, 11:30:32 AM
Did you use the diodes in the way he tells us?  He says that the diodes are very, very important as they negate losses =  I speculate maybe negates Lenz?
Clearly, pulsed squarewave with variable duty cycles and frequencies is the experiment to be conducted here.
Also, use a magnetometer and see which frequency/duty cycle combination gives the biggest magnetic field.
Also, use very fast diodes. No two diode types are the same.
He also says that you can keep the transformer together by using ordinary cheap insulation tape.
I hope this helps.
Yes, I know that diodes only stop the LENZ very quickly! Ordinary diodes let through!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 18, 2023, 11:40:37 AM
https://keelynet.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/daniel-dingel-water-powered-car-inventor-gets-20-years-for-swindling/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 18, 2023, 12:21:56 PM
r2fpl, Kapanadze in 2001 could not be connected in any way with the geographically remote Filipino Daniel Dingel, and these Tariel words about the theft of the principle of the device by the Filipino are the usual story that the secret of the invention is in danger and can be stolen, so he could not tell anything in detail.  ;D
From antigravity to hydrogen? Is it the same?
Kapanadze says about gravity and antigravity research, but initially on this video says "Gravity forces":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJnrlUbb58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJnrlUbb58)

But not Einstein, Dirac and Schrodenger's cat etc.
I assume that they studied the rise of groundwater in various types of soils and related topics. As a result, some material was probably found and a process was developed that made it possible to break the water molecule with little energy consumption.
Something along these lines:
https://openpress.usask.ca/soilscience/chapter/soil-physics/ (https://openpress.usask.ca/soilscience/chapter/soil-physics/)
Quote
Hydrogen bonding

Because of the polarity of a water molecule, the electronegatively charged oxygen atom can develop an attraction force with the electropositively charged hydrogen as two water molecules come close together. This attraction force creates an intermolecular bond known as hydrogen bond between the protons of the hydrogen atom of one water molecule and the oxygen atom of the other. This force of attraction effectively bonds water molecules together.

Adhesion and cohesion forces

Hydrogen bonds create two forces that are responsible for water retention and movement in soils (Figure 4.8a). The attraction force between water molecules and solid particles is known as force (force between two different materials). The attraction force between water molecules is known as force (force between similar materials). Generally, adhesion forces are much stronger than the cohesion forces as water molecules are tightly held onto the soil-solids (also known as adsorption). These tightly bound water molecules further hold onto other water molecules through cohesion forces. Together, the adhesion and cohesion forces make it possible for soil solids to hold water and to allow water movement through the soil. Increasing distance between the water molecule and the solid surface decreases the binding attraction between the water molecule and the solid surface, thus soil water farther away from soil colloids may not be retained onto the surface of a soil particle (e.g., clay).

Capillary rise

If a cylindrical glass tube is kept in contact with a liquid media such as water in a reservoir open to the atmosphere, water will spread over the inside wall of the glass tube. Due to the stronger adhesion force, the attraction between water molecules and the glass wall will be stronger than the cohesion force between the water molecules. Due to this attraction, the glass wall will “pull” water and there will be a rise of water within the glass tube. This is known as capillary rise (Figure 4.8b). The height of capillary rise of water will be determined by the closeness of the glass walls which creates the attraction force and holds the water against the force of gravity. If the walls are close (or the diameter of the tube is small), the adhesion force will be stronger than the cohesion force, and the water will rise higher. On the other hand, if the diameter of the tube is larger, the cohesion force may surpass the adhesion force and the height of rise of water may be small. Consider the situation in soil, where soil pores created by soil particles may be considered as a buddle of tubes. Now, small pores created by small sized particles (e.g., clay) will have a greater height of rise of water compared to the large pores created by the large sized particles (e.g., sand).
https://geo.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Soil_Science/Digging_into_Canadian_Soils%3A_An_Introduction_to_Soil_Science/01%3A_Digging_In/1.04%3A_Soil_Physics (https://geo.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Soil_Science/Digging_into_Canadian_Soils%3A_An_Introduction_to_Soil_Science/01%3A_Digging_In/1.04%3A_Soil_Physics)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 18, 2023, 01:19:17 PM
Subject derailed into hydrogen and antigravity.
In Kapanadze device of interest I could only see wires, coils ect.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 18, 2023, 02:10:03 PM
r2fpl, Kapanadze in 2001 could not be connected in any way with the geographically remote Filipino Daniel Dingel, and these Tariel words about the theft of the principle of the device by the Filipino are the usual story that the secret of the invention is in danger and can be stolen, so he could not tell anything in detail.  ;D

I agree.

Kapanadze says about gravity and antigravity research, but initially on this video says "Gravity forces":

How to relate the gravity of a mechanical device to an electronic one with coils!?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 18, 2023, 03:31:16 PM
How to relate the gravity of a mechanical device to an electronic one with coils!?
In all his devices, Kapanadze uses the same process, but in different ways.
Such inventions do not come to mind in batches. Einstein did not create many theories to choose for everyone to find their own. This is impossible.

Compare the sound:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HCPrB-KB0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HCPrB-KB0)

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hvZfw4Z7g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hvZfw4Z7g)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 18, 2023, 05:49:06 PM
In all his devices, Kapanadze uses the same process, but in different ways.
Such inventions do not come to mind in batches. Einstein did not create many theories to choose for everyone to find their own. This is impossible.

Compare the sound:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HCPrB-KB0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4HCPrB-KB0)

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hvZfw4Z7g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8hvZfw4Z7g)

An interesting comparison, especially since Kapanadze showed a pressure device. This sound is not related to the generation of electricity, but to the movement of the discs! Why ...
See this trag: https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0?t=657   (turn the sound full up)
At this point, the device is running already generating FE. Only the moment of switching on the transformer can be heard - the impact of the magnetic field.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 19, 2023, 08:18:07 AM
See this trag: https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0?t=657 (https://youtu.be/Z4HCPrB-KB0?t=657)   (turn the sound full up)
To demonstrate starting from a small battery, they use a "GreenBox" or "Aquarium" type device as a starter battery to start a "20 kW Hydraulic Generator" type device.
Kapanadze's "Hydraulic Generator" devices cannot be started directly from a small battery. In other videos, to start devices like "Hydraulic generator" without the use of an additional starter device, they use a temporary connection to the 220 volt network.
At this point, the device is running already generating FE. Only the moment of switching on the transformer can be heard - the impact of the magnetic field.
Other things can be heard, for example, the initialization of the vibration of the power cells in the coil.https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg576630/#msg576630

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: endlessoceans on April 19, 2023, 09:01:22 AM
To demonstrate starting from a small battery, they use a "GreenBox" or "Aquarium" type device as a starter battery to start a "20 kW Hydraulic Generator" type device.
Kapanadze's "Hydraulic Generator" devices cannot be started directly from a small battery. In other videos, to start devices like "Hydraulic generator" without the use of an additional starter device, they use a temporary connection to the 220 volt network.Other things can be heard, for example, the initialization of the vibration of the power cells in the coil.https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg576630/#msg576630

Its all fascinating on multiple levels

Here is another time it was on German TV with different angles

Kapanadze is either doing a total deception with the toroid fixed to the shaft (which he always removes for security and breaks the device into its components) or this is a real necessity.  IF SO, there are zero volts (with a conventional multimeter) read off the toroid but that wiring leads into the mystery aquarium.  There is a VERY high chance that this is different superluminal energy and what in the tank is essentially his converting  rectifier.

He guards that tank totally and its blocked out.   He happily shows everything else which indicates he thinks the rest of the components in view are less than 5% of the device and nobody can reverse engineer anything.

https://www.google.com/search?q=kapanadze+spinning+discs+free+energy&ei=So8_ZJi5J4-2oATM57WwCg&ved=0ahUKEwiYhtPBrbX-AhUPG4gKHcxzDaYQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=kapanadze+spinning+discs+free+energy&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQAzIFCCEQoAEyBQghEKABOgQIIRAVOgcIIRCgARAKSgQIQRgBUPQFWNMgYJskaAFwAHgAgAHyAogB5iOSAQYyLTEuMTOYAQCgAQHAAQE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:9a8ab641,vid:3thvqFhFIfY

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 09:22:13 AM
Sergh: The magnetic separator is available in few versions.

The toroid can rotate with the magnet inside if it is a coil and if the magnet is diametrically magnetized.

I don't know what these discs are for, but THIS is coming out of the box. Just like with Green Box

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 19, 2023, 12:21:20 PM
The toroid can rotate with the magnet inside if it is a coil and if the magnet is diametrically magnetized.
Do you, as an electrical engineer, seriously assume that the shaft, due to the force from this toroid, can rotate a 20 kilowatt generator under load?  Even if the toroid somehow magically spins the axle, it will start to spin in the opposite direction and break the wires, as it is not properly fixed to the frame. In my vision, this can be only a sensor of rotation speed, or mystification of observers.  :)

I don't know what these discs are for, but THIS is coming out of the box. Just like with Green Box
The discs are located on the axle shafts, between which there is a wooden insert, on which the spring is wound.

This is a mechanical damper to reduce vibration from hydraulic motors and hydraulic pumps. Construction foam on the walls is also for similar purposes.
Hydraulic motors and hydraulic pumps have problems with rotational vibrations on the shaft.
The hydraulic pump or hydraulic motor is usually connected with an elastic coupling.
In addition, hydraulic motors can have a large torque. Because of this, the drive belt to electric generator may break  during acceleration.
To exclude this, a spring is wound on a wooden shaft between the disks.
Although such a system with two flywheels can purposefully multiply pressure vibrations in the hydraulic line. Maybe this is the reason for obtaining free energy in a certain substance.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 12:42:48 PM
Sergh: I agree with you that the toroid cannot be responsible for the movement of the shaft. I just wanted to show how it should work, if it can be taken seriously at all.
Does the toroid detect the position of the shaft? there is such a possibility.

Is there a pressurized system? I never thought about it, but your observation gives me a different perspective on this device. Thank you.

photo: Someone once wrote that in this device she saw something similar to a water pump. hmm...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 19, 2023, 01:31:15 PM
Well. I see. Without me, you'll never figure this device out.
Делайте мне уже докУменты,и отправляйте в командировку. 8)

By the way, there was no answer what the readings of the hydrogen sensor on the arduino mean.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 19, 2023, 01:38:55 PM
An interesting feature of these pumps. They vibrate very strongly if the outlet water pressure is lower than the pump is set at the factory.
This is because the core that drives the piston hits the core of the electromagnet.
  Usually they are adjusted with a spacer washer to a pressure above 6 atmospheres for pumping water from a wery deep well.
When the pump reaches the required pressure, it runs relatively quietly.
Compare sound:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I4a58Wpkue4 (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I4a58Wpkue4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 02:25:26 PM


it was supposed to be the pump. (red box)

An interesting feature of these pumps. They vibrate very strongly if the outlet water pressure is lower than the pump is set at the factory.
This is because the core that drives the piston hits the core of the electromagnet.
  Usually they are adjusted with a spacer washer to a pressure above 6 atmospheres for pumping water from a wery deep well.
When the pump reaches the required pressure, it runs relatively quietly.
Compare sound:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I4a58Wpkue4 (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/I4a58Wpkue4)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z3S4R_wycU)

You're right, but that would mean there's water or oil in the box  :o This is crazy
but maybe it's a mini pressurized system.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 19, 2023, 03:25:18 PM
Entire box, filled with liquid - it would be visible. Impossible.
I assume that a plug is screwed to the pump inlet and a fitting is screwed into it. But this video doesn't show such fine details.
The tubes are probably disguised as some conductors. Inside the red coil is something that looks like a bottle.  ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 03:59:05 PM
 :o bottle ? oil ... water ? but where does the 5kW energy come from? not from the pump. Not from pressure. How does it convert pressure to 5kW?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 19, 2023, 04:45:37 PM
Where does the energy come from ? where do you think it comes from, By seperating the posative from the negative!

Any way you wont find how to do that in the forum, I havent seen it but you will on you tube stuff if you know what to look for, I did see it in one of Wesley's vids ?

Assuming Tesla and Moray and others arnt lying even Stalker idrectly hints at it.

Sil

So who put that Ruslan tune PDF up then and didnt read it ????????????
any way you need to find the video for this thing it might help.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 05:44:35 PM
I'm sorry but Wesley has no idea how Kapanadze's device works. I know he talks about energy transfer all the time, but I'm having a hard time reconciling that with Tariel's devices. From the hydrogen engine, through the pressurized device, through the 100kW Tesla HV coils, up to the noiseless 2kW. Each of them is "FE".

By the way: the amplifying element giving current according to Kapanadze gives FE. So I came to the conclusion that the entire patent is a driver for this device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 19, 2023, 06:18:53 PM
Didn't you read that PDF of Ruslans ?

look on page https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/77687162312578292/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 06:22:40 PM
AlienGrey: Wesley didn't say they made it back then. Yes, there are movies, but they don't show anything groundbreaking. We will not change the method of generating FE. I do not know. I have 10 GB of such schemes  ;D

Where is FE? Tell me ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 19, 2023, 06:29:23 PM
Not that look at the whole page. Try here https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/63050463505694199/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 06:50:37 PM
Not that look at the whole page. Try here https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/63050463505694199/
Don Smith never showed a working device. The shows he did were interesting but nothing else. If someone sells brochures with the FE device, it is unbelievable, especially since I have not seen anyone get a repeatable positive result. Yes, there are several similar devices, but it does not change whether they are self-sufficient.

I did this pattern several times and got nothing. I understand that if I was making a radio and didn't know what to get, I wouldn't pick up any music. Maybe it's the same here... maybe.


(There are too few people here who want to do something and the number of views under the pictures shows how many are having fun here.)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 19, 2023, 08:19:27 PM
the Don Smith thing is very much like the Wesley device if you look at the neon power module
i my self would try and replicate a down size module to see how it works rather than jumping in
it's a push pull device just like a 12v 0 12v transformer as Ruslan talks about in his pdf but the phases are out you need a scope them and need some electronics know how to get the waves to move in the right and left direction and move on from there. If you look at the Stalker TL494 circuit it has two CD4093 chips set up as monostables they modify the wave positions wich is missing in some circuits but you need to know what your doing and understand Ruslans PDF.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 19, 2023, 08:31:50 PM
Let's go back to basics.
Have a look at the circuit diagram.
IT IS NOT TESLA!!
There is no L1 2 or 3 turns powering a multi-turn L2.  It's simply not there.
The schematic is of the aquarium 2, because I asked him to build that version.
Take a look at the capacitor. It is pulsed from one side only by High frequency into an earth ground.
A capacitor is a blocking device. There is only one way that I know of that this can work.
It's one of Don SMith's secrets which he revealed just before his death. I believe Don was the real deal, but his device is notoriously hard to tune.
Here is the link. 53 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tASY07r9AD0&list=PLmf6BEWAWzyTeshjqaZH76NuyTgBqMi5D
But now have a look at L2. "current amplifier". Is that the part where his secret device comes in?


The schematic tells us that this is not a Tesla device. Have a good study of it.  I have demystified it by filling in the boxes and omitting the start mechanism.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 19, 2023, 09:35:02 PM

But now have a look at L2. "current amplifier". Is that the part where his secret device comes in?


Yes no.9

The blocking capacitor is for DC current. Did you mean it?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: endlessoceans on April 19, 2023, 11:53:28 PM
Let's go back to basics.
Have a look at the circuit diagram.
IT IS NOT TESLA!!
There is no L1 2 or 3 turns powering a multi-turn L2.  It's simply not there.
The schematic is of the aquarium 2, because I asked him to build that version.
Take a look at the capacitor. It is pulsed from one side only by High frequency into an earth ground.
A capacitor is a blocking device. There is only one way that I know of that this can work.
It's one of Don SMith's secrets which he revealed just before his death. I believe Don was the real deal, but his device is notoriously hard to tune.
Here is the link. 53 minutes in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tASY07r9AD0&list=PLmf6BEWAWzyTeshjqaZH76NuyTgBqMi5D
But now have a look at L2. "current amplifier". Is that the part where his secret device comes in?


The schematic tells us that this is not a Tesla device. Have a good study of it.  I have demystified it by filling in the boxes and omitting the start mechanism.

Totally agree

NO there are NOT magnets on the shaft.  Even if there were, the voltage is zero off the toroid.  Outcome from assessment???  Think!  Its either misdirection or energy of an unknown particle travels across the shaft through the toroid superluminally (which explains no standard volts read).

Serg and a.king are at least approaching this logically and methodically. 

GUYS....there are no pumped fluids LOL not to gain energy off anyway.  IF there were its likely to be COOLANT.  You CANNOT amplify energy without first experiencing heat somewhere and that SOMEWHERE is usually at the switching.  These devices are about 4kw or so that Tariel made??  Something has to be cooled a little so if theres water or oil, it will be for that purpose.

Theres a massive plausible explanation for the discs especially that they are dissimilar materials.  The energy can be analogue and made solid state.

But as has been mentioned here, the OSCILLATOR, SCHEME, TRANSFORMERS, CIRCUIT, are not consequential. You simply need ON OFF switching if a particular type.   Tariel is MAGNIFYING energy.  The AMPLIFIER marked on his circuit is the secret.  Its the last 2% that is greater than the 98% what is seen and known.  ITs actually laughable and pointless he patented the circuit as is for a number of reasons.  For one, there are thousands of patents that propose methods of FE but nobody can replicate them  WHY...because like don smith and tariel they withold the magic sauce.  Its like me creating and patenting the best fruit conserve/jam in the world and trying to patent that but not disclosing the FRUIT which is some rare berry from the deep amazon jungle. 

The thing Tariel is protecting the hell out of and has not patented is the AMPLIFIER.  Perhaps its a simple simple device...lets call it a radiocative element capacitor or a new rectifier.  You let that out of the bag and then you dont need fancy circuits, you just pulse or oscillate energy and after that you run it through the amp.  Hell it could be a analogue or solid state

Focus on what he is NOT showing you.....what he has shown and what Don smith and hubbard showed was all the same....it takes you up to 98% efficient at best

But after that you need the magic sauce
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2023, 03:04:51 AM



Re: The mechanical and underwater stuff.
Tariel does not design this himself. He does not have the ability. He uses a female design engineer who also works internationally.
He simply tells her what he wants, in the same way, that I was allowed to tell Kapanadze what our team wanted.
This woman then gets her engineering contacts to build the device and hands it over to Tariel. Our team met her in Tbilisi.
She was as mystified as the rest of us about the secret.
The one guy who almost certainly knows the secret is the guy with a mustache who keeps appearing with Tariel in all the videos.
When our team wanted Kapanadze over here in England his passport photo was one that was sent to me.
As I keep mentioning: the secret is agony for Kapanadze. He drinks heavily and has been admitted to hospital for alcohol-related problems on more than one occasion.
Kapanadze was born under Soviet Union occupation. He never knew capitalism until he was forty years old.
He does not understand business in the same way that we do.
He therefore can't trust anyone he works with. In Tbilisi he had access to a whole trove of Soviet-era electronic equipment. As communism collapsed, many State employees found themselves unemployed and there were outdoor markets up to a mile long selling everything the former State employees could get their hands on.
Subsequently, Kapanadze had access to one of the state laboratories where he worked with some of his friends. He had access to secret Soviet documents on free energy.
His first device which he built by himself ran a 1kw bulb for  6 months. It was DEFINITELY solid-state. No moving parts.
In our project, we needed devices that could generate at least  1 MW of energy each. The project was to put energy into the National Grid via a disused former coal mine which had something like a 100 MW facility linked to the Grid.
I was a bit scared that his device used components that could not be cheaply manufactured to produce such a high output.
The transformers I saw were taller than the tallest human, so this was to be a huge undertaking, and Kapanadze's cut was 33% of the profits.
I asked him about this and he replied that all he needed to do was to measure the wires and that there were no exotic components.
I would have been happy with just the rights for this facility but Kapanadze simply did not understand business, contracts, and non-disclosure agreements. He thought that once someone knew his secret then everything was lost as far as he was concerned.
This is plainly a childish way of behaving. In a non-disclosure agreement, Kapanadze could have demanded a substantial surety ie your HOUSE! and all your wealth, for example, if you tried to cheat him. He simply could not understand this way of thinking.
At the time, another complication was that there were no state pensions or state help. He relied on his son a lot of the time. Obviously, when an overseas investor comes around he is faced with the same dilemma: "Take the money, build the device, and then don't tell the secret because your livelihood is gone if you do." That is the mentality Kapanadze operates under-- Very sad.


Meanwhile, take a look at the huge capacitor that he uses in other videos as well. I have seen it in the green box videos for example.
Maybe you should have another read of my previous post.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2023, 03:33:06 AM
Yes no.9

The blocking capacitor is for DC current. Did you mean it?
I have had this argument loads of times. Every EE says AC passes through a capacitor. Really?
Look at the Tesla hairpin circuit and get a couple of electric Mains capacitors attached to live and neutral on an inverter.
Try to light a bulb on the other side of the capacitors.
I'll make it easy - here's a circuit diagram
I'll give you a clue. If you short out one of the capacitors the mains bulb lights to half brightness.


As I said, a cap is a blocking device except...... (read my post and watch the video again)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2023, 06:15:33 AM
Here is a machine-translated letter I received from Tariel in 2012. Eleven years ago.



Dear Friend




Thank you for your letter, I can not judge about your personal qualities. You see, the dialogue is needed.




I think my tragedy is that he lost faith in people.


I was born this way was then a stretch of my life, and this invention has been my cross and not the gift of fate as many think.


These experiments I started with my childhood friends - we had a 4 - where they are - almost 30 years, they no longer alive. Yes this is the term for which I am working alone.


All were strong in physics - I can not say about himself, and all those who Calligonum then I did without them originate from the experiments in a small hut ... Then we hit the young and life seemed perfect ... Then beat the war and I at the forefront of fighting with weapons in their hands - I've seen all the horrors of war with his own eyes and can subconsciously I brake for this case.




You're right, this invention belongs to the people - is the most important thing but I did not see where investors are thinking about them ... here you are - as you approach the business - most importantly the commercialization yes - and I'm starting to think along this line. I have proposed a scheme for introducing you to this invention, the experience - all of whom I never met walked on this path. started with a 1 kW and reached 10 000 MW. so it turns out everyone wants to become an oligarch ... I think in order to bring the invention to the common people rather 3-20 kW. that they could use them individually. In this range the cost of energy produced will be worth many times cheaper ... going to the high power price increases due to distribution and other assistive devices that require general network. In large power plants so - the more powerful the cheaper the cost of energy produced, in my case the opposite.




So what are the most valuable principle of power and not elaborated. I understand very well not be able to make a production model and the most intriguing in the fact that your proposal to offer help on this line in recent years, electronics is evolving rapidly and I could not learn all ... probably with the latest developments in many times to improve the quality, reliability and safety of the equipment and the cost reduced. I'm here I can say that the equipment is not dangerous - there is no danger for human beings radiation and tested it many times on the island, I was forced to do an experiment to test whether this did not take energy from another network.




Do not get me wrong - when I talk about my defense - I suspect the fact that after the opening of the present invention will become more than I already ... not to mention the profits of production and absolutely nothing will be able to leave my family ... If any prove so ... where I live inventors and scientists live in poverty




So what you see is not so easy to compare our thoughts. One thing is sure in all the will of God, and he leads us through life, I sincerely want to fulfill my mission, and through such torment was not in vain.




Sincerely Tariel


 Дорогой друг
 
 
 Спасибо за ваше письмо, я уже могу судит о ваших личностных качествах.  Вот видите, диалог нужен.
 
 
 Думаю моя трагедия в том что потерял веру к людям.
 Я не таким родился каким стал потом на протяжение моей жизни, а это изобретение стало моим крестом а не подарком судьбы как многие думают.
 Эти эксперименты  я начинал с моими друзьями детства – нас было 4 – где они – почти 30 лет их нет в живых. да это тот срок за который я работаю один.
 Все были сильными по физике – что не могу сказать о себе, и все те опиты которые я потом делал без них берут начало от тех экспериментов в маленьком шалаше... мы били тогда молодыми и жизнь казалось прекрасным ...  потом било война и я на передовых позициях воевал с оружием в руках – я видел все ужасы войны  своими глазами и может по этому подсознательно торможу это дело.
 
 
 Вы правы это изобретение принадлежит людям – это самое главное но я не когда не видел инвесторов которые думали о них ... вот вы - как подходите к делу – самое главное коммерциализация да – и я начинаю думать по этой линии. Я вам предложил схему внедрения этого изобретения по опыту – все кого я не встречал шли по этой пути. начинали с 1 квт  и доходили до 10 000 мгвт. так что получается все хотят стать Олигархами... Думаю для того чтобы донести это изобретение до простых людей достаточно 3-20 квт. что бы они могли пользоваться им индивидуально.  в этом диапазоне себестоимость выработанной энергии будет стоить во много  раз дешевле... выходя  на больших мощностях цена растёт за счёт распределительных и других вспомогательных устройств которых требует всеобщая сеть. В больших электростанциях так - чем мощнее тем дешевле себестоимость выработанной энергии, в моём случае  наоборот. 
 
 
 Так что здесь самое ценное принцип работы а не выработанная мощность. Я очень хорошо понимаю один не смогу сделать производственный модель и самое интригующее в вашем предложении то что предлагаете помочь по этой линии, за последние годы электроника развивается быстро и я не смог всё освоить... наверное с современными достижениями во много раз улучшиться качество, надёжность и безопасность оборудования а себестоимость снизиться. я здесь же могу отметить что оборудование не опасно – там нет опасных для человека излучений и это много раз проверяли –на острове меня заставили сделать эксперимент чтобы проверить не  брал ли эту энергию с другой сети.
 
 
 Поймите меня правильно – когда я говорю о моей  защите - подозреваю то что после открытия изобретения я уже стану лишним... не говоря уж о доходах производства и абсолютно ничего не смогу оставить моей семье ... если ни так докажите ... там где я живу изобретатели и учённые живут в нищете
 
 
 Так что видите не так легко сопоставить наши мысли. В одном я уверен во всём воля божья и он ведёт нас по жизни, я искренно хочу выполнить мою миссию и через такие муки прошёл не напрасно.
 
 
 С уважением Тариел
 15. 2. 2012.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 20, 2023, 08:02:10 AM
I am generally convinced that the device must operate with different forms of energy.
That is, not to be only electrical, only mechanical or only chemical.
In one cycle, the law of conservation of energy will not allow an increase to appear out of nowhere. Work in a circular cycle is zero. You know it.
Maybe this is what you are talking about, Kapanadze's device has both hydraulics and electricity.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 20, 2023, 08:02:57 AM
a.king21:

Huge capacitor ?????

is it the same capacitor? Is he really that big? What does big mean?

Tariel says there is a step down transformer with a capacitor to loop the device. If it was just a capacitor, there wouldn't be so many wires. It is exactly as seen in the photo.

You can even see the core of the transformer.
We need validated data to make progress.

Hairpin Tesla : is this the basis of the Kapanadze device?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 20, 2023, 08:08:38 AM
I am generally convinced that the device must operate with different forms of energy.
That is, not to be only electrical, only mechanical or only chemical.
In one cycle, the law of conservation of energy will not allow an increase to appear out of nowhere. Work in a circular cycle is zero. You know it.
Maybe this is what you are talking about, Kapanadze's device has both hydraulics and electricity.

The problem is that it is difficult to look for pressure in plastic boxes, e.g. with 2kW films.  :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 20, 2023, 10:07:25 AM
GUYS....there are no pumped fluids LOL not to gain energy off anyway.  IF there were its likely to be COOLANT.  You CANNOT amplify energy without first experiencing heat somewhere and that SOMEWHERE is usually at the switching.  These devices are about 4kw or so that Tariel made??  Something has to be cooled a little so if theres water or oil, it will be for that purpose.


  :(     You are jumping to conclusions too quickly... this is not a reality show. You should at least try to spend a lot of time to understand how it can work.
Let's say you have an ordinary hydraulic pump and an ordinary hydraulic motor from an ordinary agricultural tractor, for their usual pressure of 100 - 300 atmospheres.
The output of the hydraulic pump is connected to the input of the hydraulic motor by an ordinary pipe.
The inlet of the hydraulic pump is supplied with ordinary hydraulic oil, but with small air bubbles.
The hydraulic pump compresses oil with air from 1 atmosphere to 100-300 atmospheres.
What's happening? Yeah!!!
The same as in a conventional diesel engine. Oil burns with air from compression and adiabatic heating.
This phenomenon is known. Google "microdieseling". Harmful phenomenon in ordinary hydraulic devices.
What's next? The gas heats up even more, expands and the oil-gas mixture rotates the hydraulic motor with more energy than it takes to rotate the hydraulic pump. The hydraulic motor from  hydraulic pump 1 kW  turns the generator at 20 kilowatts.
You replace air bubbles with small HHO bubbles, obtained at low cost from the interaction of water with a quantum gravitational nanostructure, and you get free energy at the output of an electric generator.
The hydraulic diagram received from Kapanadze by a visitor from Bulgaria with the nickname Teofiliuss corresponds to the description.

https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg272350/#msg272350 (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg272350/#msg272350)

January 26, 2011
Quote from: teofiliuss
This is a principal scheme of the hydro-generator which was given me by Gia (Tariel's assistant).
https://sites.google.com/site/teslafreeenergy/_/rsrc/1296064809193/home/galeria/Hydraulic_circuits_275px.JPG (https://sites.google.com/site/teslafreeenergy/_/rsrc/1296064809193/home/galeria/Hydraulic_circuits_275px.JPG)

About principal of this device - Tariel says that he had constructed special hydropump, which have 1 kWt consummation and puts hydraulic pressure on oil: more than 200Bar. The power of this pressure is transform to the energy more than 18kWt. I think that its work with the help of hydroturbine. It is a good, if generator is more 1000 rpm. This was filmed some days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-8HkawRHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-8HkawRHo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlLDQkqreA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlLDQkqreA)

Of course, Tariel did not tell him the main secret of low-cost hydrogen production. Therefore, it is necessary to try again to spend a lot of time to understand how it can work.

The problem is that it is difficult to look for pressure in plastic boxes, e.g. with 2kW films.  :o

Proton exchange membrane (PEM) for fuel cells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafion
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nafion)
But if hydrogen is obtained at the point of consumption, "on demand", at the contacts of the fuel cell, then the membrane is not needed.
is it the same capacitor? Is he really that big? What does big mean?
This is a 220 Volt -> 12 Volt transformer and an ordinary rectifier that Tariel's assistant made so that he can disconnect the car battery and power the device from the 220V output.
They talk about it in the video.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 20, 2023, 10:41:16 AM
Gia is constantly present on the YT channel. I don't know if he really knows about the operation of Kapanadze's device. He hasn't done anything about it for so many years?!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 20, 2023, 11:30:05 AM
Gia is constantly present on the YT channel. I don't know if he really knows about the operation of Kapanadze's device. He hasn't done anything about it for so many years?!
So do you mean  'Geo' so what is the YT channel ? and how have we got onto car mechanics ?
talk about skater brain comes to mind, and there is this group of people who want to get rid of Oil
and funding war, and on an opposite group who want to prosecute the
(the get rid of oil campaigners as terrorists and associates as accomplices.
Power money and greed corrupts while they destroy the planet with poisons and toxins. SICK
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 20, 2023, 11:34:53 AM
a.king21:

Huge capacitor ?????

is it the same capacitor? Is he really that big? What does big mean?

Tariel says there is a step down transformer with a capacitor to loop the device. If it was just a capacitor, there wouldn't be so many wires. It is exactly as seen in the photo.

You can even see the core of the transformer.
We need validated data to make progress.

Hairpin Tesla : is this the basis of the Kapanadze device?
There was a video on the hair pin circuit it works by generating Amps rather than Volts.

Another video shows a Tesla coil with nodes iluminating Leds on the nodes but to do that requires thought
and shorter wave length to do so. A car mechanic might have difficulty in acomplishing that fete  ;D
Imean my change the habit of a life time ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 20, 2023, 12:02:37 PM
Gia not Geo
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 20, 2023, 01:44:04 PM
Gia not Geo
Vladimir Kryvenko
4 years ago
How to show a bunch of videos in your channel for the sake of attendance, please. And if you tell something sensible that you understand and possibly change the world for the better, then the toad is choking. Although, no one would have forgotten him. Well, it's a secret! As long as such secrets succeed, including Kapanadze and the like, nothing will change on this planet for another hundred years. How has not changed after Tesla. And the world will still be ruled by oil and gas. And we will continue to kill the environment and enrich a bunch of oligarchs, while such inventors will talk, but for now it's a secret! You have achieved success, but you will not be able to realize it in money! And for something to change, it needs to be accessible to everyone, and all over the world. Together people can do a lot. Then it will be unstoppable. And the discoverer will be honored and praised. He will be remembered for generations. And during his lifetime he will not be in abundance. And so, once again I showed, I know, but I won’t tell you, because I spent so much time and effort on this, and you all want to have it for free. Yes, that's the point! Where is Kapaeadze? Where is Don Smith? Where is Stephen Mark? Where is everyone who knows something? And you will be there! And the World will continue to smoke the sky, kill the planet and enrich a handful of rulers of this world!
End

The so called energy comes from ionized air !
But how you obtain it for free use is the problem !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 20, 2023, 02:46:42 PM
The so called energy comes from ionized air !
But how you obtain it for free use is the problem !

I don't think so because the Aquarium is closed. Maybe a.king21 will say something more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 20, 2023, 03:41:04 PM
Well John Serl home built rotory magnetic flying device used charged ion (static charged) cant remember its polarity

So the aquarium box would be a magnet to charged particals from the environment,

I wonder if Mr King could share some ciruits from the TK lurning curve ?

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2023, 09:15:05 PM
I don't think so because the Aquarium is closed. Maybe a.king21 will say something more.
From a scientific standpoint, you don't need much space. Once plasma is generated, you have 2 things.
1 A massive amount of atoms with the outer electron forcibly removed just hanging about.
2 A huge magnetic field that magnetizes the electrons.
High frequency generates plasma, even if you can't see it. Of course, a spark in a spark gap is pure plasma.
Electrons can then be taken from anywhere especially earth ground and you can also have an air grounding.
You really need a magnetometer. Some smartphones have a built-in magnet and you can download software for free. Of course, these devices won't be very accurate, but at least you can see the magnetic field.
It has taken me a   long time to figure out the extent of the importance of the external magnetic field.
So the facts are that if you increase voltage above say 500 volts and frequency above 1 kHz, some researchers say that you are already in over-unity territory. The more you increase the frequency, the more massive the magnetic field, and it increases exponentially.
Use your magnetometer to measure the magnetic field of your electric kettle, and compare it to a modest frequency of say 1 kHz at 1,000 volts pulsed dc with  1 milliamp. You will be staggered at the result.
The trick is to get all the magnetic field into your device.
Remember it is not the electricity at the generating station that is powering your kettle. They are your own electrons bouncing up and down.
The biggest problem is that we have been looking at scopes and not magnetometers.
There is no such thing as over-unity per se. It simply appears to be. Just like a solar panel is not ou, but has the same effect.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 20, 2023, 09:20:43 PM
a.king21:

Huge capacitor ??? ??

is it the same capacitor? Is he really that big? What does big mean?

Tariel says there is a step down transformer with a capacitor to loop the device. If it was just a capacitor, there wouldn't be so many wires. It is exactly as seen in the photo.

You can even see the core of the transformer.
We need validated data to make progress.

Hairpin Tesla : is this the basis of the Kapanadze device?
Thanks for reminding me. Looks like I made a mistake. I'd still like to see his capacitor.
The basis of his device is what he says in the patent. He just left out some details. So no point in going off on a tangent of car mechanics or water/ hydraulic systems, - there is no patent to guide us.
But he has given us 2 patents. And that is what I am experimenting with.
They are still a guide.
So keep your eyes on the ball. Please.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: fuzzb3k on April 20, 2023, 09:52:55 PM
Hi folks,

I'm not sure if this is relevant to the operation of the Kapanadze device, but I've noticed some similarities between various FE devices across history. They all appear to use capacitors to some extent, and I think the capacitor is the key to unlocking the common secret.

I recall Steven Marks saying:

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It is three separate coils of multi strand copper wire laid one on top of the other, not interleaved. Three is important. You can do many things with three coils. You can run them in parallel, you can run two in series and one in parallel, or etc.

EV Gray and Richard B. Hackenberger used capacitors charged with high voltage (2000V+) in their famous capacitor popping demo.

Imagine you have 5x 10uF capacitors in series charged to 10V. This gives a total capacitance of 2uF. Each individual capacitor is charged to 2V. Using Q = CV, we calculate that the capacitors are storing a total charge of 0.00002 coulombs.

Now, take these charged capacitors and re-arrange the circuit so that they are in parallel. This gives us a total capacitance of 50uF charged to 2V, which gives us a total charge of 0.0001 coulombs. This is 5x the number of coulombs than in the series arrangement.

The energy in each arrangement remains the same at 0.0001 joules.

It seems that switching from series to parallel is creating additional charge somehow, which in theory should 'amplify' current.

Where did the extra coulombs come from? Have I missed something obvious?

It appears to be converting volts to amps. Maybe this can be useful somehow.

I also found the following posts during my trawls through various threads and YouTube comments over the the year or so. They seem interesting and point to the capacitor as being a key element. I'm not sure who wrote them now, but I had squirreled them away in a text file for later reference.

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I want to share something with you. T1000 and Nelson know well what I want to say. I previously wanted to tell on this site but some of you were opposed to what I said. And they wrote again and again that what I said was wrong. But what I said was true. No one has to believe my writing. But maybe it's useful for one of you.

The most important part of free energy is the capacitor. If you charge a capacitor with high voltage and high frequency and rectified with fast bridge diode has no resistance anymore and the cap charges instantly.  Then you get charge inside a cap and making that flow is amps.

If you load push & pulls at 50-60Hz per second and your cap charging circuit is doing 220-300kHz a second you got a lot of charge in the cap bank to pull into amps. I won't tell you exactly how to do this. But I will tell you the right way. The energy stored in a capacitor is a function of the voltage across it and the capacitance. Stepping up the voltage to any desired high value is very easy to do with the use of a high voltage module. Example is a flyback transformer. This means large amount of energy we can be created and stored inside a capacitor from any source of small input voltage and current.  And this energy directly into an inductor after each recharge.

When the LC tank circuit is in resonance the entirety of the capacitor energy is transferred to the inductor and stored in its magnetic field. This means the previous electric energy is now to magnetic and thereby yielding desired amperage. You should use for switching mechanism  such as transistor, high voltage power Mosfet,Thyristor..etc.

The most important is to match resonant frequency of the LC to guarantee at each cycle the energy gets fully transferred from the electric field of the capacitor C1 to the magnetic field of the inductor L1. Then released by L2 in the form of current out to the load and output capacitor C2.

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You can use Mazilli ZVS driver to drive an homemade 12V/100KV Transformer at RESONANCE and use 200pcs of 400V 100uf electrolytic capacitors connected in series to harvest the incoming RESONANCE driven Radiant Power.

The caps would be charged in series and discharged in Parallel using High Frequency Diodes connected to each terminal on the individual capacitor. The Anodes  of  diodes will be paralleled while the cathodes too connected in parallel to Mass up the Current in each cap of 400V 100uf. So in the end the Output power will reflect 400V 20000uf .

But the charging time will be low as the whole 200pcs of 100uf are in series which makes 100uf/200pcs= 0.5uf or 500nf.

When caps are linked in series, when being charged:
1. Charging current is the same for each cap
2. Charging frequency is maintained not divided as in caps that are connected or linked in parallel. So each cap sees the same charging frequency.

A TVS Diode or Varistor is needed to make a setup like this work and you can use extremely high frequencies like 1Mhz or more.

The Don Smith way of using Voltage Divider is not necessary Provided you have the money Custom -built High Power Inverter.

What you must keep to is Resonance.
The Mazilli Driver paves way for Auto-Resonance in the Primary so to make the Secondary rings, simply measure its inductance to get the needed capacitor to add in parallel to the output terminals of the Secondary High Voltage winding.

Remember at RESONANCE, OHMS LAW IS NOTHING PRACTICALLY!!


This is not a thought nor basic resonance. I have done a practical test and I can tell anyone authoritatively that you need DC caps to Harvest Radiant Power which is always massively Available at High Frequency and High Voltage applications.

Caps needs Voltage to produce Current thus the needed trick is to convert the hot voltage in the secondary winding of 12V 50 KV  Zero Voltage driven Transformer to Cold electricity by tuning it to Resonance  and thereafter convert it to Hot electricity using DC caps. But the problem is TIME taken to charge the cap in Parallel. So to counteract that, series connection of the caps is needed but the discharge would be in parallel via H.V Diodes like HER108.

Do not get it twisted, once Resonance is obtained you can set the Power for conversion and step-down number of ways.

Again do not get it twisted. The Caps connected in Series make one body but connected in parallel makes an individual body. 400V 100uf X 100pcs in Series is 40KV 1uf which makes 1 body. But 400V 100uf  X  100pcs in parallel makes an individual body of 400V 100uf when discharged via a Diode.

Charge time is what needs to be reduced.
You at RESONANCE charge in Series and Discharge in Parallel at 60hz via a High Voltage Fast Recovery Diode.

I have once told you that when Caps are linked in Series
1. Charging current from source is maintained
2. Charging Frequency is Maintained too

Those two basic principles make for overunity to be obtainable in this set-up.

The diodes connected to the positive and negative terminal of each capacitor are meant to sum up the Power of each caps in parallel. So the anode goes to the negative terminal of all caps in the array. While the cathode goes to the positive terminal of the caps in the array. Now connect all the ends of the anode in parallel and connect all the ends of the cathode in parallel too. There you have it now! You have to add up in parallel using diodes.

You need not to disconnect and reconnect anything. I assume you know how to do the switching going by your background in electronics.
We are pumping caps here so all we need to do is to Dam the overflow using a High Current Choke and "vastorised"  the unneeded excess voltage to ground. And from there to the final output DC Cap then to a High Wattage Inverter.

What my simple setup is about is to trick the Resonant energy from the Z.V.Switched 12/50KV+ Transformer into believing that the converting cap is of low capacitance in nano fares range. So it pumps it in a jiffy repeatedly and that will cause overflow when Diodes are used to harvest power from the caps into a Choke.

The High Voltage of say 40KV or 50 KV or more would be determined by the number of caps in series to achieve nanofarad range or lesser(picofarad)

The caps fill up in series in excess and you discharge in parallel at either 50hz or 60hz. So there will always be excess power available at an High rate.

The multifilar wire-wound secondary in the Z.V.Switched Inverter at first stage eliminate s  the need for second stage L1/L2 coil and also at RESONANCE negate Lenz effect before the series-parallel caps needed for Radiant energy conversion.

3rd coil or 4th coil etc. is not needed. Caps combined with inductor and varistor serve as a transformer before the inverting circuit. I know the actual direction you are moving but that I see will not be beneficial to other people reading my comments here. Anyways, goodluck.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 21, 2023, 12:46:10 AM
Hairpin Tesla : is this the basis of the Kapanadze device?



I was pointing out that the caps in the hairpin are a blocking device.
The current appears on the other side due to high frequency and high voltage which induces an equal and opposite charge on the other side of the caps through electrostatic induction


Obviously, you need HV and HF. The Don Smith reference was to show you a buy one, get one free situation.
If you look at the Kapanadze bare bones with that in mind what do you see?
That s why the cap is so important.
I also wonder about his transformers. Did we catch him out, or is it yet another distraction?

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 21, 2023, 08:31:35 AM
Take a look at the capacitor. It is pulsed from one side only by High frequency into an earth ground.
A capacitor is a blocking device. There is only one way that I know of that this can work.

The capacitor is not some mystical item.
The usual thing.
A long time ago, since the age of 12, I have been assembled, modifying and designing electronic devices in which I used various components, including capacitors.
With capacitors in childhood, I assembled various electronic devices, non-resonant, resonant, filters, low-frequency, high-frequency, power supplies, etc.
And he also charged capacitors from 220 volts, discharged with a screwdriver, sometimes on himself, disassembled, took out foil from them, overcharged and bursted, scaring friends, etc. There is no mysticism in capacitors. The resonant process in any resonant circuit always decays due to the dissipation of the energy of an external source loaded into the resonant circuit.
Just like the iron or kettle cools down after being turned off.

The basis of his device is what he says in the patent. He just left out some details. So no point in going off on a tangent of car mechanics or water/ hydraulic systems, - there is no patent to guide us.
But he has given us 2 patents. And that is what I am experimenting with.
They are still a guide.

Before buying a patent from lone inventors, it would be good for private investors to visit some large professional research center that professionally patents the results of their research and find out how much patents like Kapanadze's patents really cost.
I assume very few.

Patent some kind of circuit similar to the block diagram of an ordinary uninterruptible power supply?
The minimum description, which does not carry any specific information about either the real scheme or the process, there is no information in order to later win the case in court.

In addition, anyone else can apply for the same patent, replacing some details, for example, write that his device is different in that the bobbin is wound on a cotton core and this increases the output power by 100 times. Or that his device uses a coil instead of a bobbin, saving 100 tons of oxygen-free copper.

https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/02/01/elon-musk-tesla-patents/ (https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/02/01/elon-musk-tesla-patents/)
Remember it is not the electricity at the generating station that is powering your kettle. They are your own electrons bouncing up and down.
Thousands of gnomes spin a wheel with magnets at the power plant for food. This wheel with magnets creates a change in the electric field in the coils, which is transmitted through the wires to your house and pulls the electrons in your kettle. You pay the power plant boss to cook food for the gnomes.
The biggest problem is that we have been looking at scopes and not magnetometers.
I suppose to wind a suitable coil and connect it to the input of the oscilloscope, to see the magnetic fields is not a big problem.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 21, 2023, 08:59:36 AM
Kapanadze's patents are too general. One box contains 1-1000 elements.
Of course, the capacitor box is interesting, but only because it is labeled CAP. It seems to be very important in the whole system. However, we do not know what this capacitor is. We know that it gives a voltage to the oscillator circuit. It's really stupid if there's nothing else behind it.
Such a patent is very bad for investors. I have the patch notes for these patents, but nothing makes sense there.

Why do you believe that Kapanadze is the same as Don Smith?!? I heard they met at 100kW but is that true?
Why to this day no one has found even 1 watt in these devices. Kapanadze says that it can work on 200w but also on 200MW and everything depends on the coil, transistors and the rest. It really speaks beautifully.

a.king21: I have a lot of capacitors and I see only one interesting thing there; when it is discharged rapidly after a while it increases its energy but it is nothing but <1 The capacitor itself is very lossy if we count the power. It is better to keep the power as a magnetic field, e.g. in a transformer, because the losses are <5%
The capacitor works very well when it is in the LC system and when it is always charged then it is transparent.


.....The biggest problem is that we have been looking at scopes and not magnetometers.
yes, but the electrostatic field interferes with these readings and it's impossible to tell what we're seeing. Am I wrong and we see the truth?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 21, 2023, 12:55:27 PM
We all want to get results quickly with simple methods.
But that doesn't work. We must try to go the same way that Kapanadze went in order to understand.

We summarize the available information about the way:
1. Earlier than 2000, Kapanadze, on the basis of some information obtained as a result of some research by a team of some organization, invented a "car on the water".
2. According to some facts, it can be assumed that during the Soviet era, Tariel could work as an architect in the organization "Gruzgiprovodhoz", which specialized in research and development on water management, melioration, etc.
3. Tariel claimed that the initial principle of operation of all his devices was obtained in the study of the forces of gravity and antigravity, which was carried out by a group of researchers long time ago.

Summarizing these 3 points, it can be assumed that the topic of research at "Gruzgiprovodkhoz" could be the topic "Groundwater rise in various types of soils". As a result of these studies, a low-cost process for producing hydrogen was somehow found. No military secrets, flying saucers and other mysticism.

What would be the name of the unexpected effect found by this group of researchers, which would correspond to line number 1?
Something like this:
"Anomalous release of a large concentration of hydrogen from some types of soil" or something similar, for example:

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"Hydrogen Emanations in Intracratonic Areas: New Guide Lines for Early Exploration Basin Screening"

Offshore the emissions of dihydrogen are highlighted by the smokers along the oceanic ridges. Onshore in situ measurements in ophiolitic contexts and in old cratons have also proven the existence of numerous H2 emissive areas. When H2 emanations affect the soils, small depressions and vegetation gaps are observed. These depressions, called fairy circles, have similarities with the pockmark and vent structures recognized for long time in the sea floor when natural gas escapes but also differences. In this paper we present a statistic approach of the density, size, and shape of the fairy circles in various basins.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145 (https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145)

This scientific article confirms the presence of the desired effect, but does not provide information about the specific process that leads to the release of hydrogen. The strange small limited shape of these areas of hydrogen emission in random places leads to the idea that these may be traces of some ancient meteorites, etc. Maybe these circles contain some special mineral that spontaneously  dissociates water.
A deep analysis of information about this or similar effects is needed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 21, 2023, 03:24:30 PM
Operational theory (another one... yeah): cosmic particles are coming to Earth and are stopped by magnetosphere while creating ions and something else which I think may be called soft
Bremsstrahlung ,
which is simply high frequency oscillating energy. It is dispersed in Earth magnetosphere so the method to tap it must be clever and similar to heat pump. Basically it is done by magnetic reconnection (creating a sink in magnetosphere) then use energy to ionize air around the circuit and then by some process move that ionized air around the circuit generating strong magnetic pulses which is then collected around by some kind of positive feedback.
That theory explains the energy source and while has a lot of holes may be the most simple explanation. That's why energy so collected was often calle datmospheric electricity.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: ramset on April 21, 2023, 03:45:03 PM

Sergh
This https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145 (https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145)
Must not get buried in the mix
Since your other “low temperature thermolysis” work hints at
Plausibility…
This needs a group …..thoroughly investigated..towards experimental suggestions ( example Zeolite etc etc )
 Respectfully
Chet

We all want to get results quickly with simple methods.
But that doesn't work. We must try to go the same way that Kapanadze went in order to understand.

We summarize the available information about the way:
1. Earlier than 2000, Kapanadze, on the basis of some information obtained as a result of some research by a team of some organization, invented a "car on the water".
2. According to some facts, it can be assumed that during the Soviet era, Tariel could work as an architect in the organization "Gruzgiprovodhoz", which specialized in research and development on water management, melioration, etc.
3. Tariel claimed that the initial principle of operation of all his devices was obtained in the study of the forces of gravity and antigravity, which was carried out by a group of researchers long time ago.

Summarizing these 3 points, it can be assumed that the topic of research at "Gruzgiprovodkhoz" could be the topic "Groundwater rise in various types of soils". As a result of these studies, a low-cost process for producing hydrogen was somehow found. No military secrets, flying saucers and other mysticism.

What would be the name of the unexpected effect found by this group of researchers, which would correspond to line number 1?
Something like this:
"Anomalous release of a large concentration of hydrogen from some types of soil" or something similar, for example:

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145 (https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3263/11/3/145)

This scientific article confirms the presence of the desired effect, but does not provide information about the specific process that leads to the release of hydrogen. The strange small limited shape of these areas of hydrogen emission in random places leads to the idea that these may be traces of some ancient meteorites, etc. Maybe these circles contain some special mineral that spontaneously  dissociates water.
A deep analysis of information about this or similar effects is needed.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 21, 2023, 03:51:08 PM
Some time ago I wondered if it was just electrolysis with an iron rod in the ground. It should be noted that Kapanadze dug a hole in the garden and placed the radiator from the car there. Then he flooded the entire area with water. In another video, we see him using the ground to a water pipe. Other locations are not shown except for one when the grounding is a building structure.
We must pay attention to one more very important detail: this is the current measured with a 24A clamp meter on the ground wire!!! How is this possible ? We know what the possibilities are and when you analyze all of them you will understand that the current is coming either from earth DC/DC pulse or AC.
If what Sergh says about hydrogen could be true, how to explain such a process? What does an iron pipe in the ground do that breaks down water into hydrogen when there's electricity on it. And how does this current flow back to us!?!?!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 21, 2023, 05:00:33 PM
And when I look at these pictures, I remember another.

p.s. I'm sorry the joke didn't work.
Failed to insert GIF file-picture.
The second picture says:
Stop looking like a donkey and get back to work.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 21, 2023, 05:27:38 PM
Some time ago I wondered if it was just electrolysis with an iron rod in the ground. It should be noted that Kapanadze dug a hole in the garden and placed the radiator from the car there. Then he flooded the entire area with water. In another video, we see him using the ground to a water pipe. Other locations are not shown except for one when the grounding is a building structure.
We must pay attention to one more very important detail: this is the current measured with a 24A clamp meter on the ground wire!!! How is this possible ? We know what the possibilities are and when you analyze all of them you will understand that the current is coming either from earth DC/DC pulse or AC.



Kapanadze copied this from an Earth Battery demo some guys in Africa made.
Was replicated again in Russia with both small radiators and several large ones, showing it can be scaled up and down.


TK showed Telluric currents on an oscilloscope many years ago
Demonstrating that there are DC, Pulsed DC, as well as several independent frequencies
flowing through the ground
He even went as far as identifying some of them (60hz, a few cable tv channels, local radio, etc)
Grid currents can be removed by moving further away from the residential earth ground


When it comes to showboaters:
It is important to understand the history of the mirages they promote.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 21, 2023, 06:33:15 PM

Kapanadze copied this from an Earth Battery demo some guys in Africa made.
Was replicated again in Russia with both small radiators and several large ones, showing it can be scaled up and down.


TK showed Telluric currents on an oscilloscope many years ago
Demonstrating that there are DC, Pulsed DC, as well as several independent frequencies
flowing through the ground
He even went as far as identifying some of them (60hz, a few cable tv channels, local radio, etc)
Grid currents can be removed by moving further away from the residential earth ground


When it comes to showboaters:
It is important to understand the history of the mirages they promote.

How to see Telluric currents on oscilloscope ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 22, 2023, 12:24:55 AM


a.king21: I have a lot of capacitors and I see only one interesting thing there; when it is discharged rapidly after a while it increases its energy but it is nothing but <1 The capacitor itself is very lossy if we count the power. It is better to keep the power as a magnetic field, e.g. in a transformer, because the losses are <5%
The capacitor works very well when it is in the LC system and when it is always charged then it is transparent.


.....The biggest problem is that we have been looking at scopes and not magnetometers.
yes, but the electrostatic field interferes with these readings and it's impossible to tell what we're seeing. Am I wrong and we see the truth?
You perhaps are missing the point as is everyone else.


Every single electronic interaction produces a magnetic field.
The magnetic field set up in a straight conductor carrying current is always at right angles to the direction of the flow of current.
At household levels, this is not that significant. As the frequency and voltage increases the results become exponential in our  favour.
Every OU-claimed device that I have come across has this feature:-[size=78%] From Benitez right through to Kapanadze. There is a massive amount of magnetic energy outside the device at HV and HF that is not accounted for by Kirchof's or ohms law.
The capacitor:
Once again: at ordinary household levels its behavior is as per Spice.
When you get into higher frequencies and voltages the rules change. The static field becomes activated. The static field is outside and inside the device as is the magnetic field. Both the static field and the magnetic field influence electrons both inside and outside the device.
In Kapanadze's case, he discharges his capacitor through the load into earth ground.
In the case of the video link I showed you, the  capacitor is not being charged in the normal manner.
Only ONE PLATE of the capacitor receives a charge. This is impossible with low voltages and low frequencies in terms of useful results.
The cost of charging one plate of a capacitor is negligible. The environment then charges the other plate in an equal and opposite manner.
This is called electrostatic induction.
You then suddenly have a fully charged cap, by the environment, which could be an earth ground or an air grounding.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tASY07r9AD0&list=PLmf6BEWAWzyTeshjqaZH76NuyTgBqMi5D
time one hour and six minutes in.
What you are missing is that very little power is used to charge the left plate of the flat plate capacitor. The right-hand side is free energy provided by the static energy forced onto the right side by electrostatic induction.
Now you suddenly have a fully charged cap.


Now, what Kapanadze does according to his 2 patents is to take some excess of the extra energy from L2 and put it back into L1.
L1 now has increased power, so L2 is also increased. This now creates a vortex, and the system would explode if not for the spark gap which you can see in my previously posted bare-bones Kapandze patent.
I hope this helps.












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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 08:25:42 AM
a.king21: Charging only one side of the capacitor requires one plus or minus sign. Depending on this sign, the earth gives or gives equalization of the charges in the capacitor.
The simple way is the Van der Graaf generator. Here you get only one character at the top. To get only + you have to separate the plus from the minus beforehand. It takes as much energy as connecting it to the ground!
I don't know of a cheaper method of producing only pluses.
I was wondering about this a few years ago. I was doing some static tests with discs and then I understood.

What you mention now is really beautiful and could explain how Kapanadze's devices work, but show me a cheap way to charge a capacitor with one side to ground. It's going to be easy ;)


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Dom Smith shows us a trick and either doesn't understand what's going on himself or makes the audience look like idiots.

As I have shown, it has a connection to the ground on both sides. It is not even grounding 10m away, he just firmly connected the right side to the pin in the grounding socket.
Secondly, I did this experience. The plates carry the voltage in the form of plasma or thin discharges that we cannot see. It's another trick but not seeing the cause.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: bmind23 on April 22, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
a.king21: Charging only one side of the capacitor requires one plus or minus sign. Depending on this sign, the earth gives or gives equalization of the charges in the capacitor.
The simple way is the Van der Graaf generator. Here you get only one character at the top. To get only + you have to separate the plus from the minus beforehand. It takes as much energy as connecting it to the ground!
I don't know of a cheaper method of producing only pluses.
I was wondering about this a few years ago. I was doing some static tests with discs and then I understood.

What you mention now is really beautiful and could explain how Kapanadze's devices work, but show me a cheap way to charge a capacitor with one side to ground. It's going to be easy ;)




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Dom Smith shows us a trick and either doesn't understand what's going on himself or makes the audience look like idiots.

As I have shown, it has a connection to the ground on both sides. It is not even grounding 10m away, he just firmly connected the right side to the pin in the grounding socket.
Secondly, I did this experience. The plates carry the voltage in the form of plasma or thin discharges that we cannot see. It's another trick but not seeing the cause.

Proszę o przetłumaczenie mojego posta na język angielski.
Widzę, że do końca nikt nie rozumie o co chodziło Donowi Smithowi w doświadczeniu z dwoma metalowymi płytkami przedzielonymi izolatorem.
Chodziło tam mianowicie o ciągłe podwajanie początkowego ładunku elektrycznego. Co nie jest niczym nowym, już w 18 wieku ludzie to robili. Nie będę się rozpisywał jak to działa, wszystko jest wyjaśnione w załączniku. Antonio Queiroz na podstawie 18 wiecznych doświadczeń zbudował współczesne podwajacze ładunku. Pytanie jest takie czy jest możliwe zastąpić ruch posuwisto-zwrotny, który powoduje podwojanie ładunków współczesną elektroniką, by wyelminować ten ruch. Oczywiście musiałaby być inna konstrukcja podwajacza tworzącego 2 kondensatory o zmiennej pojemności.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on April 22, 2023, 10:57:42 AM
One side capacitor charge, does this schema makes any sense or stands valid anywhere !!!!
https://overunity.com/19309/working-kapanadze-generator-circuit/msg573371/#msg573371

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 11:11:34 AM
Proszę o przetłumaczenie mojego posta na język angielski.
Widzę, że do końca nikt nie rozumie o co chodziło Donowi Smithowi w doświadczeniu z dwoma metalowymi płytkami przedzielonymi izolatorem.
Chodziło tam mianowicie o ciągłe podwajanie początkowego ładunku elektrycznego. Co nie jest niczym nowym, już w 18 wieku ludzie to robili. Nie będę się rozpisywał jak to działa, wszystko jest wyjaśnione w załączniku. Antonio Queiroz na podstawie 18 wiecznych doświadczeń zbudował współczesne podwajacze ładunku. Pytanie jest takie czy jest możliwe zastąpić ruch posuwisto-zwrotny, który powoduje podwojanie ładunków współczesną elektroniką, by wyelminować ten ruch. Oczywiście musiałaby być inna konstrukcja podwajacza tworzącego 2 kondensatory o zmiennej pojemności.

Ja wrzucam to na google translator.

Podwajanie czy powielanie jest znane od dawna nie ma tu FE. Każe rozdzielenie ładunków kosztuje więcej. Oczywiście gdyby np. generator Van Der Graffa dawał (+) w ilościach większych to samo podłączenie do ziemi dało by zwrot tego samego ładunku. Z obserwacji ładunków wynika że mają same (+) ziemia odda (-) tak odda ale kiedy masz same (-) ziemia zabierze. Nie zmienia to faktu że prąd przepłynie i żarówka się zaświeci. Robiłem wiele koncepcji z elektrostatyką i odkryłem bardzo ciekawą sprawę z teflonem. Jednak nadal wyznacznikiem był lenz bo co z tego że efekt naładowania dysku można zrobić na tylko jednej elektrodzie jak nadal jest to rozdzielenie ładunków. Wyślę Ci link na PRV.
Zatem gdyby istniał sposób na wytworzenie tanich samych (+) mamy FE. Jak wiemy możemy to zrobić pocierając ubranie.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: bmind23 on April 22, 2023, 11:39:03 AM
Ja wrzucam to na google translator.

Podwajanie czy powielanie jest znane od dawna nie ma tu FE. Każe rozdzielenie ładunków kosztuje więcej. Oczywiście gdyby np. generator Van Der Graffa dawał (+) w ilościach większych to samo podłączenie do ziemi dało by zwrot tego samego ładunku. Z obserwacji ładunków wynika że mają same (+) ziemia odda (-) tak odda ale kiedy masz same (-) ziemia zabierze. Nie zmienia to faktu że prąd przepłynie i żarówka się zaświeci. Robiłem wiele koncepcji z elektrostatyką i odkryłem bardzo ciekawą sprawę z teflonem. Jednak nadal wyznacznikiem był lenz bo co z tego że efekt naładowania dysku można zrobić na tylko jednej elektrodzie jak nadal jest to rozdzielenie ładunków. Wyślę Ci link na PRV.
Zatem gdyby istniał sposób na wytworzenie tanich samych (+) mamy FE. Jak wiemy możemy to zrobić pocierając ubranie.
Oczywiście, że jest znane od dawna, ja się zastanawiam tylko nad tym, czy można tak przełączać pojemnościami za pomocą elektroniki, żeby podwojenie ładunku kosztowoło mniej energii , niż energia włożona do podwojenia tego ładunku.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 11:59:03 AM
Oczywiście, że jest znane od dawna, ja się zastanawiam tylko nad tym, czy można tak przełączać pojemnościami za pomocą elektroniki, żeby podwojenie ładunku kosztowoło mniej energii , niż energia włożona do podwojenia tego ładunku.

Nie wiem ale wątpię żeby samo przełączanie ładunków nagle dało więcej. Zamiast się zastanawiać można robić eksperymenty.
Znam tylko jedną wiarygodną możliwość opisaną w dziale lamp próżniowych. W pewnych warunkach istnieje coś takie jak powielanie fotonów. Nazywa to się także jako efekt dynatronowy ale o ile sam proces jest mierzalny o tyle w zwykłej lampie ten proces jest hamowany przez siatkę. Po za tym producenci walczą z tym efektem bo zabija lampy. Inna bliższa forma to powielacz fotonów. Znana konstrukcja lampy do mierzenia promieniowania jonizującego. Jednak w każdej z tym lamp nie ma tego co powoduje efekt lawinowy jednak jest pewna konstrukcja lampy która ma za zadanie właśnie odwrotne. Nie jest ona dostępna i nigdy nie była. Mam opis jak działa i jej budowę. Jest bardzo sprytnie zrobiona tak aby efektem był rezonans napięcia. Nic więcej nie powiem bo to tylko moje przypuszczenia, że Kapanadze użył właśnie tej metody. Poczytaj o efekcie dynatronowym i wyobraź sobie, że za każdym razem foton/elektron kiedy odbija się od powierzchni zwielokrotnia się. Jest jeden myk gdzie siatka zamiast przyspieszać zaczyna w końcu spowalniać i ten proces można odwrócić.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 22, 2023, 12:32:07 PM
Poczytaj o efekcie dynatronowym i wyobraź sobie, że za każdym razem foton/elektron kiedy odbija się od powierzchni zwielokrotnia się.
The multiplication of electrons by the dinatron effect, for example, in photomultipliers, consumes the energy of the power source, which creates a potential difference on the electrodes and an electric field inside the lamp. Is not it ?    Turn off the power supply, and multiplication will stop.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 22, 2023, 01:44:21 PM
a.king21: Charging only one side of the capacitor requires one plus or minus sign. Depending on this sign, the earth gives or gives equalization of the charges in the capacitor.
The simple way is the Van der Graaf generator. Here you get only one character at the top. To get only + you have to separate the plus from the minus beforehand. It takes as much energy as connecting it to the ground!
I don't know of a cheaper method of producing only pluses.
I was wondering about this a few years ago. I was doing some static tests with discs and then I understood.

What you mention now is really beautiful and could explain how Kapanadze's devices work, but show me a cheap way to charge a capacitor with one side to ground. It's going to be easy ;)


---
Dom Smith shows us a trick and either doesn't understand what's going on himself or makes the audience look like idiots.

As I have shown, it has a connection to the ground on both sides. It is not even grounding 10m away, he just firmly connected the right side to the pin in the grounding socket.
Secondly, I did this experience. The plates carry the voltage in the form of plasma or thin discharges that we cannot see. It's another trick but not seeing the cause.
Sorry to burst your bubble. Listen at 1.06
The HV HF generator is battery-powered to avoid the ground loop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tASY07r9AD0&list=PLmf6BEWAWzyTeshjqaZH76NuyTgBqMi5D  1 hour and approx 6 minutes in.
Re pulsing one plate: Kapanadze advises a High-Frequency frequency generator.
The question is how high?  160 kHz? 150Mhz? Well as the patents usually say - it is for those "skilled in the art".


As an adjunct:  When I suggested his device uses High voltage Kapanadze contradicted me and said High Frequency.
I just assumed that it would include HV- but maybe not. I assumed it included HV because we can all see his spark gaps.
It could be that when looping back not only does the device increase the amps but maybe the volts as well.
In fact, thinking about the loop-back, it must also increase the voltage. hmmm
I see a few experiments........
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 22, 2023, 02:59:36 PM
The multiplication of electrons by the dinatron effect, for example, in photomultipliers, consumes the energy of the power source, which creates a potential difference on the electrodes and an electric field inside the lamp. Is not it ?    Turn off the power supply, and multiplication will stop.


"Current multiplier" isn't it?
Volts converted into amps, without transformer. Just a electric discharge in arc region.
Electric discharge - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_discharge)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 04:42:51 PM
The multiplication of electrons by the dinatron effect, for example, in photomultipliers, consumes the energy of the power source, which creates a potential difference on the electrodes and an electric field inside the lamp. Is not it ?    Turn off the power supply, and multiplication will stop.

Not true; because the effect is resonance. Ping-pong.
Requires minimal amount of energy to take off. It can even be a flashlight.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 04:48:06 PM
a.king21: The patent says - high frequency and several times. There is no word about HV. That's true.

Tell me what experiments you want to do and I'll tell you if I've done them before or not.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 22, 2023, 05:45:18 PM
Not true; because the effect is resonance. Ping-pong.
Requires minimal amount of energy to take off. It can even be a flashlight.
Honestly say,i don't understood what is here doing resonans ? Besides, where would the extra electrons come from, if not from a power supply ? Now, if the electrons would come out of nowhere, and without external power sources ... I am dreaming... :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 22, 2023, 06:33:56 PM
Electrons come from ionized air.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 22, 2023, 09:27:38 PM
a.king21: The patent says - high frequency and several times. There is no word about HV. That's true.

Tell me what experiments you want to do and I'll tell you if I've done them before or not.


I intend to pulse one side of a cap at various frequencies powered by a 12 volt lead-acid battery.
Obviously, the other side will be earthed. Various caps will be tried.
I intend to see what loads can be powered on the earth side.
Depending on the results the next step is to try looping to see what happens.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 22, 2023, 09:59:11 PM

I intend to pulse one side of a cap at various frequencies powered by a 12 volt lead-acid battery.
Obviously, the others side will be earthed. Various caps will be tried.
I intend to see what loads can be powered on the earth side.
Depending on the results the next step is to try looping to see what happens.

I like your idea because I haven't done it yet.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 23, 2023, 12:55:21 AM
Perhaps I can help with some of your questions:

First  i have seen a low voltage lamp lit conected to the earth, the other end to a tesla coil
and then the low voltage bulb 35 volt changed to a 240 volt filament vesion that lit up too, but no capacitor was used
the frequency was around 4 to 5 mhz you can try it your self if want it did work.

The Tesla coil was isolated just driven with 6  winds at one end with about 20 volts and the driver was run at 15volts
nothing special except the earth about 1/2 wave length. I just coppied another guys findings off you tube.
Normaly things on there dont work or have stuff missing.

That was some time ago now I did try telling Nick on the thread about it but I have found solar pannels a bit safer
I had 5 cats back the none of them would go near it running I lost four of them since and only have one left now
wierd perhaps they got cat covid during the epidemic who knows.

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: arhitrade on April 23, 2023, 08:15:55 AM
From one forum:

Hello bro!
I think everything is simpler, somewhere I don’t remember exactly Kapanadze was talking about “points”, something about ignition or a reel, the conversation was about that, so what am I? the primary coil works on the principle of a bobbin (only its primary ones), i.e. it accumulates energy up to 10 amperes (works from 12 V) and at a frequency of 20 Hz (it can be higher, but there is already a skin effect), so with a duty cycle of 50%, we will have a consumption 40 watts or so, and then this coil charges a capacitor which is connected in parallel with the secondary coil, which has a larger inductance than the first one. the capacitor after the discharge of the primary is charged up to 300 volts, then it is discharged to the secondary inductance at the moment the capacitor is discharged, energy is accumulated in the primary inductance, and so on for several cycles, each discharge of the capacitor increases the coil current by approximately the same value, i.e., the current in it grows linearly, but according to the formula for the energy of the inductance, the energy grows quadratically, after let's say 20 pulses, the current in the second one will be around 20 amperes, then we break the circuit of the second key and discharge the inductance to the electrolyte and the load then the cycle repeats, i.e. we have the key of the second inductance working at 20 times (approximately) lower frequency. I used to give an approximate diagram and the calculations didn’t interest anyone, or maybe they didn’t catch up with the principle, but this is brief, whoever is interested can calculate with real values, the trick is that the capacitor is charged constantly with one portion of energy, but when working on a coil, it causes the same increase in current with each After all, the inductive reactance of the coil decreases with the toast of the current, even if it remained at the same level, the current would constantly increase by the same amount. in this principle, I think the whole secret of Capa and the classic Tesla circuit with a damped wave, i.e. extinguished.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 23, 2023, 11:10:45 AM
Perhaps I can help with some of your questions:

First  i have seen a low voltage lamp lit conected to the earth, the other end to a tesla coil
and then the low voltage bulb 35 volt changed to a 240 volt filament vesion that lit up too, but no capacitor was used
the frequency was around 4 to 5 mhz you can try it your self if want it did work.

The Tesla coil was isolated just driven with 6  winds at one end with about 20 volts and the driver was run at 15volts
nothing special except the earth about 1/2 wave length. I just coppied another guys findings off you tube.
Normaly things on there dont work or have stuff missing.

That was some time ago now I did try telling Nick on the thread about it but I have found solar pannels a bit safer
I had 5 cats back the none of them would go near it running I lost four of them since and only have one left now
wierd perhaps they got cat covid during the epidemic who knows.

Sil

It all works but I didn't see FE here. Apparently something is missing here. Maybe a circuit breaker. I don't know.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 23, 2023, 11:12:30 AM
From one forum:

Hello bro!
I think everything is simpler, somewhere I don’t remember exactly Kapanadze was talking about “points”, something about ignition or a reel, the conversation was about that, so what am I? the primary coil works on the principle of a bobbin (only its primary ones), i.e. it accumulates energy up to 10 amperes (works from 12 V) and at a frequency of 20 Hz (it can be higher, but there is already a skin effect), so with a duty cycle of 50%, we will have a consumption 40 watts or so, and then this coil charges a capacitor which is connected in parallel with the secondary coil, which has a larger inductance than the first one. the capacitor after the discharge of the primary is charged up to 300 volts, then it is discharged to the secondary inductance at the moment the capacitor is discharged, energy is accumulated in the primary inductance, and so on for several cycles, each discharge of the capacitor increases the coil current by approximately the same value, i.e., the current in it grows linearly, but according to the formula for the energy of the inductance, the energy grows quadratically, after let's say 20 pulses, the current in the second one will be around 20 amperes, then we break the circuit of the second key and discharge the inductance to the electrolyte and the load then the cycle repeats, i.e. we have the key of the second inductance working at 20 times (approximately) lower frequency. I used to give an approximate diagram and the calculations didn’t interest anyone, or maybe they didn’t catch up with the principle, but this is brief, whoever is interested can calculate with real values, the trick is that the capacitor is charged constantly with one portion of energy, but when working on a coil, it causes the same increase in current with each After all, the inductive reactance of the coil decreases with the toast of the current, even if it remained at the same level, the current would constantly increase by the same amount. in this principle, I think the whole secret of Capa and the classic Tesla circuit with a damped wave, i.e. extinguished.

It looks like a double step up circuit.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 23, 2023, 11:52:17 AM
Electrons come from ionized air.
Exactly.
It is an avalanche type process where potential difference is converted into current.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 25, 2023, 07:31:06 AM

Hi, all.
I have just been down "Memory Lane"
Can you believe it's been nearly eleven years?
Anyway, here is the post from the sponsor of Aquarium 2 where I had a small part.
We organized a second device, which never materialized.

Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331207/#msg331207)


Quote from: mike140366 on August 08, 2012, 01:17:53 PM (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331195/#msg331195)
[]


Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am the sponsor and visitor, that went to see TK's invention, on 2 occasions.
My first trip, with a physicist (bilingual in Georgian and English),
was on the 5th to 8th May 2012.
We met TK, his son and twin brothers, who build these devices.
 TK builds the important parts.
I'm the guy in the blue shirt, holding the box.
The plastic box weighed about 6-8 kilos and was
shown to run a 2 kw fire (2 bar) for about 4 hours. I paid
TK, via a friend of the physicist, 3000 USD.
This payment was ongoing, as TK was in bad health.
 I also, via the friend, paid for TK's medical treatment.
All was well and good. The devise seemed to work without wires attached (except the earth).
 I picked up the box, looked underneath, followed the braided earth lead outside to an earth spike (for grounding), touched it and checked it for hidden wires.
 We agreed to sponsor TK, to pay for and build a 10 kw 3-phase version,
that could be tested, using multi-meters etc. In the meantime,
I approached 2 government agencies and started visa applications and commercial negotiations.
The return trip, with an RF Electronics expert and a box of test equipment
 (list below), was arranged for 26 July until 02 August.
I had a Confidentiality Agreement ready and a Technology Licence contract.
 I emailed these legals to TK's lawyer, beforehand. On day 2 of the trip,
I met with TK's lawyer, made slight amends with him to the 2 documents,
printed off and signed the Confidentiality Agreement. The Technology
 The licence was to be signed after the tests were carried out.
I had done my part, as agreed. TK, at this point, stated that he was worried about our test procedures.
 I emailed his lawyer and stated "I have asked *** to test the machine, to clarify what goes
into the box and what comes out of the box. This will not be invasive testing.
These tests are to prove that there is no outside source of energy and that the energy
output is of good quality. Each test will be approved by TK before we carry them out.
We have rented electrical test equipment to do this:
Neotronics Impact Gas Detector.
Fluke 435 Power Analyser.
Fluke 199 Scopemeter. Radiodetection CAT and Genny.
 Monitran VM110. Flir i60.
Mechanical stethoscope.
Basic clamp-meter.
 All these machines have standard data logging, to save the results.
We shall take the process of testing very slowly, confirming with TK at every stage.
If we cannot test, we cannot get our government to invest in a manufacturing company,
 or sell the power to industry."
We then waited a further 2 days. On the evening of day five,
TK's son came over and showed us a picture of the (supposed)
3-phase machine on his digital camera (a 2" x 1" photo).
We said thank you but stated that testing must take place
 for this working arrangement to proceed.
We asked for a full day of testing and we only had 1 day left.
Nothing until 7pm of the last evening before we flew out.
During the previous 5 days, we had promises from
TK that all is well and we could test that day.
Each day we saw nothing. At 7 pm, we were invited by TK to see the box running.
We asked if we could test. He said no.
We politely declined his offer. He called us repeatedly over the next few hours, to try to get us to see his box.
To us, as commercial people, this was just
TK trying to reel us back in, as a big fish that is getting off the hook.
The last contact, by email, from his lawyer, stating that they believed
that this test equipment would find TK's secret. He also stated that
we should risk some more money with TK, for a further 2 months.
By the way, his lawyer amended the Technology Licence to state that
I would pay him 1500 USD a month....
That said it all.
We left Tbilisi at 3 am the following morning and went to the airport.
Who did we see there? TK's son, in the arrivals section.
 Probably waiting to receive a new party, to look at the machine that I had paid for.
The total spend on the project was about 20,000 USD.
I am a committed Christian. TK said that this was a gift from God.
I prayed with the man. He rewards me with insults, saying that
I was trying to steal his technology. TK, unfortunately, in my opinion, lives in fear.
His trust is verbal only. He gets financial reward and runs away.
When he was seriously ill, we paid for a doctor to see him and give him life-saving medicine.
This means nothing to him.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Dog-One on April 25, 2023, 09:12:20 AM
Have to wonder if mike140366 has come across anyone
different in the past decade...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 25, 2023, 10:06:39 AM
I didn't see the earth returning more... longer energy back. If that were the case, the grounding would not be emergency and would contradict the function.

To this day, we do not know whether Kapanadze's devices were real.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on April 25, 2023, 12:31:58 PM
Although posted, i post again from another YT user *Tariq* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4L0w56pa60
Free energy. 2012 Aquarium2


Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 25, 2023, 02:27:32 PM
Although posted, i post again from another YT user *Tariq* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4L0w56pa60 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4L0w56pa60)
Free energy. 2012 Aquarium2


Regards


Black box was a Morin/Newman set up, across a spark gap.
It is still unclear wether these are “ou”, or merely trading duty cycle for more “work”.


resistive loads have a relaxation time, (diodes also do this) where if you pulse it before it completely shuts off, it just turns back on again (using less energy than from a dead stop)


loads seem out of proportion, which is why those types of motors should be tested more.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 25, 2023, 02:31:11 PM

To this day, we do not know whether Kapanadze's devices were real.


I’m not prepared to call any of them “Kapanadze’s devices”…..
(at the very least) almost all of them are experiments based on others’ work.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 25, 2023, 11:04:38 PM
Hi, all.
I have just been down "Memory Lane"
We have rented electrical test equipment to do this: Neotronics Impact Gas Detector. Fluke 435 Power Analyser. Fluke 199 Scopemeter. Radiodetection CAT and Genny. Monitran VM110. Flir i60. Mechanical stethoscope. Basic clampmeter. All these machines have standard data logging, to save the results....We asked if we could test. He said no.
Here's the reason.
Even if it is accepted and allows you to test the device with a gas detector. What would happen next if a gas detector detected an unusual amount of any gases near the device?

99% of observers would scream that he is a liar and offers an ordinary portable power generator that uses gases as fuel.

Dear sir, please tell us any non-obvious features that could be during the demonstration of the device.
1. Smells. For example, the smell of "sanitation", the smell of good old chlorine. Or the smell of volatile boron compounds ("Borenium salt"), for example, something like the smell of rotten hay. Or describe a different smell.
2. Characterization of an inconspicuous dust on the inner walls of the aquarium. Something like this is visible on the video. It looks like the walls of the aquarium were wiped after lime paint.
3. Some quiet sounds during operation.
4. Strange non-everyday items, objects or containers with liquids or powders that you may have noticed during your visit.
5. Plastic films in sheets or rolls or pieces of plastic films.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 25, 2023, 11:53:47 PM
Can you believe it's been nearly eleven years?
Anyway, here is the post from the sponsor of Aquarium 2 where I had a small part.
We organized a second device, which never materialized.
Re: Selfrunning Free Energy devices up to 5 KW from Tariel Kapanadze (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331207/#msg331207)
Quote from: mike140366 on August 08, 2012, 01:17:53 PM (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331195/#msg331195)

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am the sponsor and visitor, that went to see TK's invention, on 2 occasions.

We have rented electrical test equipment to do this:
Neotronics Impact Gas Detector.
Fluke 435 Power Analyser.
Fluke 199 Scopemeter. Radiodetection CAT and Genny.
 Monitran VM110. Flir i60.
Mechanical stethoscope.
Basic clamp-meter.

On the evening of day five,
TK's son came.
Each day we saw nothing. At 7 pm, we were invited by TK to see the box running.
We left Tbilisi at 3 am the following morning and went to the airport.
Who did we see there? TK's son, in the arrivals section.
 
The total spend on the project was about 20,000 USD.

When he was seriously ill, we paid for a doctor to see him and give him life-saving medicine.
This means nothing to him.
Thank You  a.king21
 I'm limited in time to few minutes per day- just heavily preoccupied.

I paid TK nothing.
I speak Russian - and understand all 27 Slavic languages.
I slept in his son house - the house where  was the a.king21  presentation.
His family was lovely, and food was unique. I was delighted, happy, and wanted to  help a lot.
At day two . his son presented to me  KBK AK47 - I was very familiar with this machine g*n.
For 3 days TK was unconscious after Russian poisoning  of two of us. He swallowed only 2 spoons .
At day 3 afternoon med come to  TK and she gave  him  something  with syringe.
The first thing TK ask for, after regaining conciseness , was Russian vodka.

Last day  at 7 PM:
 One of his friends  who was  driving me around for all of these days  drove me to TK and TK  told his helper to make device
I was left with TK  who went unconscious again, 
Looking for some  piece of paper  to write I noticed entire documentation of his  device on the table next to me.
It was tempting.
I gave look at few pages and  decided not to.
In my standards it was wrong. I'm not one of these Russian assassins who poisoned us all. I didn't want to fall that low.
When I returned to New York my closest friend was angry at me that telling me that I should take photocopy of all of the pages.

It turns out - he was right. TK didn't care nor  appreciate  any help.
He was senseless to pain, danger, effort, of others.
I practically  save his life  during assassination. Plenty of people  paid him for tricks, Yes he had full right to  keep his secrets.
But using and abusing people  despite signed  with them agreements is not these people stupidity but  weakness .
They wanted to help "genius"  due to their  whatever  good values.
 So yes me  making photos from his secrets would be abuse of his trust .,, wasn't he  doing the same with others?

At the airport at 4:30AM I was with  TK son and TK friend.


conclusions and notes :
It looks like it was standard procedure for TK to wait till last hours of visitor trip with presentation
So they have no time to analyze his device  longer than few hours.

TK wanted me to open  manufacturing of air conditioners - :"self powered."
I showed him a way to become very wealthy by giving his device for free and offered my help without me being part of his success.
I told him that his rejected by  patent office  patent application  can  turn into patent if physically  working device  is presented.   
Than after taking to Aidas and Arunas  - the decision was to redirect to TK  the 100 millions Euro offered to me and crew, by Japanese as he was
the first who in modern times presented energy for free device that was much more powerful than Lithuania Experiment  and  harmless.

For that a Japanese visited me in New York.
I saw him  many times after that too.
TK  drunk "to impossible" first rejected an offer asking for more , and than he was  calling  me  many times every few minutes - each time acting different and agreeing
to the offer.  For us  the two people dedicated  to science  it was too much or much too much.
TK was given chance to respond till given date and time by the "big guy".
He didn't .  Few days after that  he called again and couldn't understand  why we don't  offer him anything now.
I explained him again that it was not, purchase and we are not buyers.
The offer come from the  most prominent  in his wealthiness Japanese for presenting his device to group of scientists
publicly and profit from that show was to be bigger than the money paid - for his reputable  and most known in the world publishing company.
The Japanese who visited me was one of his family members.

opinion expressed is my own
facts presented  reflects my own opinion and experience with TK, the way  I understood it.
Opinions may vary . :)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 26, 2023, 12:43:28 AM
After that  I  went deep into this subject .As energy can't  be created nor destroyed I was looking at mechanism that delivered energy to TK device.
As I told few times I'm  life minimalist.
Quote
A minimalist life is a way of living that focuses on the essential and removes the unnecessary things in life..
It is based on the principle of "less is more and reflects your values and priorities.
So lab and science is my priority.
__________________________________
I spoke to the  few TK "friends" an analyzed  sources:
I even spoke and paid  the snitch  from  Russian assassins crew hunting on us both. He happened to be one of TK "friends"
In the restaurant where TK crew resided, on the land near remote island  , during TK presentation lights suddenly started to flicker and went dim .
And Than I started to study Dr  James Corum and his patents.
Next was  my trip to Costa Rica  where we  studied  telluric current  and energy transfer  from A to B.
Next was my friend in science - one of  my  critics  who made my non working device work in energy  extraction from Schumann waveguide.

conclusion:
So my first impression after Costa Rica: that TK  was transferring energy from A to B  using  Earth Air interface 
where Air is dielectric and Earth is  lossy conductive  medium.  ( transferring energy from Restaurant to  Remote Island)
However Dr.James Corum  A to B is primary  mechanism that must be known, tested, and experienced ,- as Energy Transfer from  Schumann Waveguide
uses exactly the same mechanism with the only difference   that Tx is not man made . The energy  is extracted  from the Schumann Waveguide
when no reflection and no refraction  at Brewster Angle makes it "trapped" in that very interface. 

But after tests with Energy Transfer from  Schumann Waveguide  I started to think  about superiority of
TK device over results of our tests.His device  was small , very much  immune, how did he managed vertical polarization?
However in his big presentations  all coils  were  vertical.( tent and glass table)
For some drunk, skilled in  architecture  it was  unexplained, till I got some "intel." :) - and that explained a lot.
The Old Russian Scientists who vanished  after  contacts with Tariel. The 2 million dollars  from Turkish  during TMZ.
TK got only ~ 200 000  and he went to crazy spending. Not all is to be  said even now- not yet. 

opinion expressed is my own
facts presented  reflects my own opinion and experience with TK, the way  I understood it.
Opinions may vary . :)

Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 26, 2023, 09:28:49 AM
After that  I  went deep into this subject .As energy can't  be created nor destroyed I was looking at mechanism that delivered energy to TK device.
As I told few times I'm  life minimalist.So lab and science is my priority.
__________________________________
I spoke to the  few TK "friends" an analyzed  sources:
I even spoke and paid  the snitch  from  Russian assassins crew hunting on us both. He happened to be one of TK "friends"
In the restaurant where TK crew resided, on the land near remote island  , during TK presentation lights suddenly started to flicker and went dim .
And Than I started to study Dr  James Corum and his patents.
Next was  my trip to Costa Rica  where we  studied  telluric current  and energy transfer  from A to B.
Next was my friend in science - one of  my  critics  who made my non working device work in energy  extraction from Schumann waveguide.

conclusion:
So my first impression after Costa Rica: that TK  was transferring energy from A to B  using  Earth Air interface 
where Air is dielectric and Earth is  lossy conductive  medium.  ( transferring energy from Restaurant to  Remote Island)
However Dr.James Corum  A to B is primary  mechanism that must be known, tested, and experienced ,- as Energy Transfer from  Schumann Waveguide
uses exactly the same mechanism with the only difference   that Tx is not man made . The energy  is extracted  from the Schumann Waveguide
when no reflection and no refraction  at Brewster Angle makes it "trapped" in that very interface. 

But after tests with Energy Transfer from  Schumann Waveguide  I started to think  about superiority of
TK device over results of our tests.His device  was small , very much  immune, how did he managed vertical polarization?
However in his big presentations  all coils  were  vertical.( tent and glass table)
For some drunk, skilled in  architecture  it was  unexplained, till I got some "intel." :) - and that explained a lot.
The Old Russian Scientists who vanished  after  contacts with Tariel. The 2 million dollars  from Turkish  during TMZ.
TK got only ~ 200 000  and he went to crazy spending. Not all is to be  said even now- not yet. 

opinion expressed is my own
facts presented  reflects my own opinion and experience with TK, the way  I understood it.
Opinions may vary . :)

Wesley


To get OU.
You only need : generator and resonator.
No HV is needed, only HF.
Resonator amplifies amplitude linearly, but energy is amplified hyperbolic way, amplitude squared.
That is all secret.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 26, 2023, 10:38:42 AM
Hello Wesley!

Looking for some  piece of paper  to write I noticed entire documentation of his  device on the table next to me.
It was tempting.
I gave look at few pages and  decided not to.

Is it possible to underestimate the other side, the director of the play?They probably printed some random texts as documentation and put them in a prominent place.

There are reasons not to trust the words of Tariel, but to trust the hypotheses, which he refused.
For example, how to combine Kapanadze's hydroelectric generators and Schumann's waves, or Tariel's words about the use of "Tesla technology"?

Quote from: Alik
Hydraulic generator Kapanadze#49651

This engine is constant at 15 kW, 2300 rpm, 300 kg in weight .... it will have to turn the axial piston pump to half the force .... the design for the show is not frail, it crawls out today with grief in half, the engine was received in Tbilisi ... I crossed myself as I answered for shipping....
https://realstrannik-com.translate.goog/forum/btg-tarielya-kapanadze/784-gidravlicheskij-generator-kapanadze?start=20&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en#49651 (https://realstrannik-com.translate.goog/forum/btg-tarielya-kapanadze/784-gidravlicheskij-generator-kapanadze?start=20&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en#49651)
Quote
Difficulties of ELF communication
One of the difficulties posed when broadcasting in the ELF frequency range is antenna size, because the length of the antenna must be at least a substantial fraction of the length of the waves. Simply put, a 3 Hz (cycle per second) signal would have a wavelength equal to the distance EM waves travel through a given medium in one third of a second. When the refractive index of the medium is greater than one, ELF waves propagate slower than the speed of light in vacuum. As used in military applications, the wavelength is 299,792 km (186,282 mi) per second divided by 50–85 Hz, which equals around 3,500 to 6,000 km (2,200 to 3,700 mi) long. This is comparable to the Earth's diameter of around 12,742 km (7,918 mi). Because of this huge size requirement, to transmit internationally using ELF frequencies, the Earth itself forms a significant part of the antenna, and extremely long leads into the ground are necessary. Various means, such as electrical lengthening, are used to construct practical radio stations with smaller sizes.

The United States maintained two sites, in the Chequamegon-Nicolet National Forest, Wisconsin and in the Escanaba River State Forest, Michigan (originally named Project Sanguine, then downsized and rechristened Project ELF prior to construction), until they were dismantled, beginning in late September 2004. Both sites used long power lines, so-called ground dipoles, as leads. These leads were in multiple strands ranging from 22.5 to 45 kilometres (14.0 to 28.0 mi) long. Because of the inefficiency of this method, considerable amounts of electrical power were required to operate the system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_low_frequency)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 26, 2023, 12:04:30 PM
Here's the reason.
Even if it is accepted and allows you to test the device with a gas detector. What would happen next if a gas detector detected an unusual amount of any gases near the device?

99% of observers would scream that he is a liar and offers an ordinary portable power generator that uses gases as fuel.

Dear sir, please tell us any non-obvious features that could be during the demonstration of the device.
1. Smells. For example, the smell of "sanitation", the smell of good old chlorine. Or the smell of volatile boron compounds ("Borenium salt"), for example, something like the smell of rotten hay. Or describe a different smell.
2. Characterization of an inconspicuous dust on the inner walls of the aquarium. Something like this is visible on the video. It looks like the walls of the aquarium were wiped after lime paint.
3. Some quiet sounds during operation.
4. Strange non-everyday items, objects or containers with liquids or powders that you may have noticed during your visit.
5. Plastic films in sheets or rolls or pieces of plastic films.


The only odd thing that was mentioned was a thunderstorm on the day of the Aquarium 2 video.  Tariel said it was too dangerous to start the device in those conditions. Later on, the weather calmed down and the demonstration began.
I have already mentioned how I think the device works.
Tesla: I would only agree with the Tesla hypothesis if you are looking at high-frequency resonance effects and NOT HV effects.
In the 2004 video the spark gap is not much higher than the mains  (240v AC, 50 Hz). Definitely not Tesla.
In the Aquarium 2 video, the spark gap is going off like crazy because it is an overvoltage protector, or if you like - a current surge protector.
This is entirely consistent with his claims in the patent that L2 feeds L1 an additional amperage. At something approaching the speed of light, this vortex would lead to a meltdown pretty quickly. The spark gap going off is mighty powerful and loud.
I had tens of hours of discussion with Kapanadze in a three-way Skype call with his Georgian Physicist translator who lives in Southampton.
I asked him to build a device following that particular patent because I half understood its claims. I understand it a lot better after 11 years, but still no cigar.
If you think about it Kapanadze's claims that he had found a resonance is entirely consistent with the vortex description of his device.
It is in resonance, albeit in a potentially destructive resonance if it was not for that fail-safe sparkgap.
There was a case in the US, I believe in the sixties or seventies when a poor young boy died whilst sitting in front of the CRTV.
Apparently, the tube(?) went into a vortex resonance and exploded, killing the unfortunate youngster.
A CRTV tube consists of a circular V or flat U-shaped yoke resembling a toroid with coils and electromagnetic deflectors.
There is your L1 and L2 right there.
However, remember that coils have capacitance as well as inductance and resistance. My money is on the capacitive effect producing the extra energy.
As I have mentioned before, you can take these electrons right out of the air in a plasma-induced state. In fact, Kapanadze tells us that the device gets energy out of the air in one of his patents.
In my bare-bones diagram, I drew only the initial start-up phase. After that the L2 circuit becomes AC, and everything changes.
Have another look at the video and listen to that manic spark gap. The device is massively dangerous as it was built because if the spark gap had failed, Mike and anyone close to him would have been history, sad to say.
I know it's hard, but we should try not to get deflected into all sorts of theories and we should use his patents as a guide.
Here is the video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4L0w56pa60
The first voice you hear is the physicist from Southampton who acted as translator. But listen to the ferocity of that fail-safe spark-gap device.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 26, 2023, 03:03:03 PM
OU is simple math. ;)
Signal of given amplitude "1" is feed to tuned resonator.
In Resonator:
Every pulse IN- amplitude is rising linear way: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10......
                       energy is rising expotential way:1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100......


During that period we feed 10 impulses into resonator, total energy IN :10
During that period in resonator amplitude rised to 10, accumulated energy rised to 100.


Cheers,
Pix



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 26, 2023, 04:20:44 PM

The only odd thing that was mentioned was a thunderstorm on the day of the Aquarium 2 video.  Tariel said it was too dangerous to start the device in those conditions. Later on, the weather calmed down and the demonstration began.



It is not strange. After all, the ground wire runs to the ground.

I used to want to listen to submarines on low frequencies. I connected the ground wire directly to the mini plug as for a computer. The sound card and program worked very well. It was raining and lightning flashed. Not close at all and I didn't hear anything. I thought it was a temporary blackout but it turned out that the computer does not recognize the sound card. The sound card is dead.
The result is not a damaged output, but a whole sound card!
Why did this happen ? Because it is not true that energy is neutralized 100% by the earth. The Schuman Resonance is mainly the effect of thunderstorms that are even thousands of kilometers away.
Is my sound card damaged due to high V or high A?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 26, 2023, 05:20:38 PM

It is not strange. After all, the ground wire runs to the ground.

I used to want to listen to submarines on low frequencies. I connected the ground wire directly to the mini plug as for a computer. The sound card and program worked very well. It was raining and lightning flashed. Not close at all and I didn't hear anything. I thought it was a temporary blackout but it turned out that the computer does not recognize the sound card. The sound card is dead.
The result is not a damaged output, but a whole sound card!
Why did this happen ? Because it is not true that energy is neutralized 100% by the earth. The Schuman Resonance is mainly the effect of thunderstorms that are even thousands of kilometers away.
Is my sound card damaged due to high V or high A?
I have today few more minutes to respond.

Very interesting subject.
In page :Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg569985/#msg569985)is how energy  from lightning  gets into interface
and about ham radio. please go to the next page to read more.you can also start from here: Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg568107/#msg568107)
In page : Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296) there is  ready to use device to test A to B. at 137kHz Ham radio  band ( top capacitor must be  10 times larger.)
In page : Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561352/#msg561352) there is explanation why  Kapanadze  grenade coil is so small and how to make our small.
In page:  Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg559853/#msg559853) there are  receivers  I used  for ULF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_frequency)
more is in Russian here :
Re:   In Russian: Эксперименты по беспроводной передаче энергии, Доска Строителей
(https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559512/#msg559512)and in English here: Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

(https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559526/#msg559526)_______________________________________________________
You computer sound card  should be  connected with  isolation transformer  to the ground or  your Russian heat system radiator
to make sure that doesn't blow due to  phase / ground improper connection  of your computer ( reversed) and/or leakage.
At best I would suggest to connect  entire computer  to the outlet using isolation transformer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer)
at that point you are safe  to directly  connect output of your sound  card to the ground. You may try to use small capacitor  in between ground and  sound card.
If properly connected should be  working good as Rx although sensitivity is low so preamplifier  is recommended at IN.
I don't see how  distant lightning could damage it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 26, 2023, 05:35:59 PM
@Stivep


What does this device look like?
I have it here somewhere


I will be setting up my new lab in about a month or so
And all will be on display
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 26, 2023, 05:47:31 PM
I'm little confused  specify what you asking for please
Are you asking  about  isolation  transformer?
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 26, 2023, 07:20:04 PM
I have today few more minutes to respond.

Very interesting subject.
In page :Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg569985/#msg569985)is how energy  from lightning  gets into interface
and about ham radio. please go to the next page to read more.you can also start from here: Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg568107/#msg568107)
In page : Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296) there is  ready to use device to test A to B. at 137kHz Ham radio  band ( top capacitor must be  10 times larger.)
In page : Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561352/#msg561352) there is explanation why  Kapanadze  grenade coil is so small and how to make our small.
In page:  Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg559853/#msg559853) there are  receivers  I used  for ULF. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_frequency)
more is in Russian here :
Re:   In Russian: Эксперименты по беспроводной передаче энергии, Доска Строителей
(https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559512/#msg559512)and in English here: Re: Wireless energy transfer experiments ,Builders board

(https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg559526/#msg559526)_______________________________________________________
You computer sound card  should be  connected with  isolation transformer  to the ground or  your Russian heat system radiator
to make sure that doesn't blow due to  phase / ground improper connection  of your computer ( reversed) and/or leakage.
At best I would suggest to connect  entire computer  to the outlet using isolation transformer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isolation_transformer)
at that point you are safe  to directly  connect output of your sound  card to the ground. You may try to use small capacitor  in between ground and  sound card.
If properly connected should be  working good as Rx although sensitivity is low so preamplifier  is recommended at IN.
I don't see how  distant lightning could damage it.
Wesley


I don't know where the lightning was, but it certainly wasn't near my house, but it's hard to remember now because I was interested in a damaged card, not where the lightning struck.
In fact, the sound card has a bias signal of about 20mW, so even a few volts can already damage it.

I didn't think about security then.

thanks for the links.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 26, 2023, 08:22:28 PM
Tell me please,does somebody deleted anywhat pictures in this thread?  I have seen honestly,recently photo aquarium. And through the glass you could see getinax printed circuit boards from Soviet tube TVs. I recognized them because I've been repairing this for many years.
But now I'm looking for these pictures and can't find them. Or am I going crazy ?
In general, there is no crime in this, because I myself use old printed circuit boards as a basis.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 26, 2023, 08:27:34 PM
Tell me please,does somebody deleted anywhat pictures in this thread?  I have seen honestly,recently photo aquarium. And through the glass you could see getinax printed circuit boards from Soviet tube TVs. I recognized them because I've been repairing this for many years.
But now I'm looking for these pictures and can't find them. Or am I going crazy ?
In general, there is no crime in this, because I myself use old printed circuit boards as a basis.
https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331195/#msg331195
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 26, 2023, 09:34:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meGr0v_21GM

The video in which the 20KW device is shown, it is possible that it is something related to Kapanadze.

What do you see in the video? what components? What are they saying ?
 




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 26, 2023, 10:08:50 PM
OU is simple math. ;)
Signal of given amplitude "1" is feed to tuned resonator.
In Resonator:
Every pulse IN- amplitude is rising linear way: 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10......
                       energy is rising expotential way:1,4,9,16,25,36,49,64,81,100......


During that period we feed 10 impulses into resonator, total energy IN :10
During that period in resonator amplitude rised to 10, accumulated energy rised to 100.


Cheers,
Pix


Mechanical equivalent  explanation in attachment,on what's happening in Tesla, Kapanadze ect.
Thank me later  ;)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 27, 2023, 08:34:06 AM
https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg331195/#msg331195
It seems me there was anything other.  I think I saw round soldering from lamp panels, only from below. That's why I thought about TVs. But it never mind. In any case, the boards are fake, just placed for the entourage. But it may be on this basis tracks are cut and their own circuit is assembled .This is what many poor radio amateurs do, including me. :)


Mechanical equivalent  explanation in attachment,on what's happening in Tesla, Kapanadze ect.
Thank me later  ;)


Cheers,
Pix
Why put batteries in the radio then  ?  :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 27, 2023, 08:53:00 AM
Why put batteries in the radio then  ?  :o


1.Because radio is not designed for it.
2. You need a high Q resonator. Tesla coil is good for that. Tesla was saying to keep radiation losses minimum, that's why he mentioned about kHZ, not MHz. And kHz is determining the size of resonator. It won't be small like in the radio.
3.You still need a battery to power generator driving tuned resonator. Eventually if you loop back portion of output power into generator supply, you may have "samozapit" ;)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 27, 2023, 09:25:43 AM
I read about it ten years ago. At Atsyukovsky.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 27, 2023, 10:38:14 AM

1.Because radio is not designed for it.
2. You need a high Q resonator. Tesla coil is good for that. Tesla was saying to keep radiation losses minimum, that's why he mentioned about kHZ, not MHz. And kHz is determining the size of resonator. It won't be small like in the radio.
3.You still need a battery to power generator driving tuned resonator. Eventually if you loop back portion of output power into generator supply, you may have "samozapit" ;)


Cheers,
Pix


I'd like to see it in action. At least 10 years ago this was discussed but maybe you can show it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 27, 2023, 11:46:03 AM
The only odd thing that was mentioned was a thunderstorm on the day of the Aquarium 2 video.  Tariel said it was too dangerous to start the device in those conditions. Later on, the weather calmed down and the demonstration began.
I don't see anything strange in this. Ohm's law.
The resistance between the metal ground and the planet Earth is not zero ohms. For example, a good grounding resistance would be 4 ohms. When lightning strikes a lightning rod that is connected to it, a high current pulse occurs, for example, 1000 Amperes. What voltage will be on the ground and all metal parts connected to it, as well as on the nearby soil? Up to 4 kilovolts. This high voltage can kill someone with their legs wide apart. They tell ordinary electricians about this at safety briefings. On the grounding of lightning rods, signs are now installed "Do not come closer than 3 meters during a thunderstorm."
I have already mentioned how I think the device works.
Tesla: I would only agree with the Tesla hypothesis if you are looking at high-frequency resonance effects and NOT HV effects.
In the 2004 video the spark gap is not much higher than the mains  (240v AC, 50 Hz). Definitely not Tesla.
In the Aquarium 2 video, the spark gap is going off like crazy because it is an overvoltage protector, or if you like - a current surge protector.
This is entirely consistent with his claims in the patent that L2 feeds L1 an additional amperage. At something approaching the speed of light, this vortex would lead to a meltdown pretty quickly. The spark gap going off is mighty powerful and loud.
I had a case, a breakdown on the board, as a result of which a film capacitor, small in size, with a capacity of 2 microfarads 6 kilovolts, was discharged at a distance of a foot from me. I completely lost my hearing for about a minute from the sound of the discharge.
On the video, of course, it is not clear how loud the sound is, but I assume that the power of the device that creates these discharges in the aquarium is not more than 100 watts.

Doesn't the discharge frequency seem strange? It sounds less than 10 Hz. The output of the generator is 50 Hz, and the discharge frequency is about 10 Hz. Inconsistency.
Let us assume that during the discharge, a pulsed excitation of the resonant circuit occurs. But the circuit is loaded with a very powerful load, it will not be able to make even one cycle of free oscillations at full power with such a significant load. In addition, a highly efficient high-voltage capacitor of a very large capacity would be needed for such a coil. Much larger capacity than mine at 2 microfarads, which I wrote about above. Each time this capacitor, for example 200 microfarads, would need to be charged through a spark gap. The sound would be many times louder, you would have to use protective headphones, as the operators of large Tesla coils on spark gaps do.
In addition, no one with an electrical engineering education will see free energy in such a system. We will charge the capacitor 5 times less often but with 5 times more energy than the average energy in the load. The output will be the same energy as the input. A similar process works in induction metal melters and even induction cooktops. Electrical specialists did not find additional energy there.
In addition, the spark gap in the GreenBox is very weak, the spark is small and not noisy.
In addition, there are video fragments indicating that the devices can work for a short time without a spark at all.

I assume that a spark is needed to initiate the process. A similar principle is used in kitchen gas stoves or boilers. In these devices, a spark ignites the gas, if the flame goes out, the flame control sensor sends a signal for a second spark. Such a device was used by Tariel in the video from Wesley.

Thus, parts connected in series into a ring, consisting of coil L2, its internal contents, loads in the form of light bulbs, are partially self-sufficient system. It is enough to give an impulse to L1 and then for some time the system generates electricity on its own. Electromechanical oscillator. The internals of the coil generate energy when electromechanically activated, the current from these internals passes through L2 to the load and along the way creates a magnetic field in L2, which affects the internals and creates a mechanical reactivation without a spark. The process can avalanche increase or decrease, or repeat stably, if the control device is able to stably maintain the parameters of the energy-producing substance inside the coil.
But it is probably difficult to maintain stable parameters, so it is necessary to periodically start reinitialization with the next spark.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg576630/#msg576630 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg576630/#msg576630)
There was a case in the US, I believe in the sixties or seventies when a poor young boy died whilst sitting in front of the CRTV.
Apparently, the tube(?) went into a vortex resonance and exploded, killing the unfortunate youngster.
A CRTV tube consists of a circular V or flat U-shaped yoke resembling a toroid with coils and electromagnetic deflectors.
Quote from: Wikipedia Cathode-ray tube

Implosion

A CRT during an implosion
High vacuum inside glass-walled cathode-ray tubes permits electron beams to fly freely—without colliding into molecules of air or other gas. If the glass is damaged, atmospheric pressure can collapse the vacuum tube into dangerous fragments which accelerate inward and then spray at high speed in all directions. Although modern cathode-ray tubes used in televisions and computer displays have epoxy-bonded face-plates or other measures to prevent shattering of the envelope, CRTs must be handled carefully to avoid personal injury.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode-ray_tube)
CRT IMPLOSION (VERY LOUD):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv-Ub7kgm0Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv-Ub7kgm0Y)

Old CRT implosion:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e27Ia_9EAHA (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/e27Ia_9EAHA)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 27, 2023, 01:13:51 PM

I'd like to see it in action. At least 10 years ago this was discussed but maybe you can show it.
Many thing has been discussed.
Tesla magnifier works, Kapanadze presentation in Turkey (TMZ) works and setup is stunningly Tesla-style.
Mechanical devices based on that exact mechanism works and exist. See my previous post with attachment.
Math do not lie, forced resonator with very low damping factor is accumulating energy with amplitude squared tempo.
Why nobody is questioning COP>3 of a heat pump or air condition unit?
I thing the answer is simple ( as Kapanadze  said once), right under our noses.
But people do like overcomplicate things.
It is my plan to put my hands dirty on this project.
Once time allows.


Cheers,
Pix



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on April 27, 2023, 01:21:51 PM
I read about it ten years ago. At Atsyukovsky.
Yeah.
Everybody did read and what?
Too simple to be true?
There is a Melnichenko patent on this .
And Kapanadze said once that Melnichenko was very close. He didn't specify on what Melnichenko was very close, but I guess it is this one.
METHOD AND DEVICE FOR GENERATING ENERGY ALONG WITH THE RESONANCE INTERFERENCE OF ELECTROMAGNETIC WAVES - MELNICHENKO ANDREI ANATOLIEVIC (freepatentsonline.com) (https://www.freepatentsonline.com/WO2007035127.html)
Funny, because Melnichenko did patent Tesla magnifier process. :o


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 27, 2023, 02:33:31 PM
PIX:
The GIA said there is no resonance there, at least not like normal. Let's think about resonance? What is resonance? When the swing is in motion, we have resonance. Unfortunately, electricity is not the same for a simple reason. Will the seesaw work on a spaceship? NO. Why ? because there is no gravity.
The same is true with electricity. Only here we always have BEMF and every oscillation produced we lose the same or more energy. There is no math of doubling without adding external energy. Resonance works only because we have a non-stop supply of energy. If the LOAD is 10% you will feel like you have more. That's all true.
I will agree only in yen, to talk about FE with resonance, you must have a mass like a bridge. It seems that it should be a magnetic field but maybe something else?

What Kapangze meant about Melnichenko. As far as I know, Melnichenko himself does not know this. Looking at his YT channel, it's hard to say why he wasn't successful. Did he go crazy from it?

The most important thing we see is 25A on the ground wire. There is <400Hz because this is the range that the clamp meter has.
Please understand that this is very important information for us. If there are two grounds then the AC is between them. If there is only one ground then only the open circuit version of the Tesla coil will give this effect. However, here is the problem with 25A! how to make TT at 25A at <400Hz? I don't know.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 27, 2023, 03:19:58 PM
Yeah perhaps your right but no we are forgetting perhaps part of the equation is more simple

The greedy, are using 50 or 60 hz it's one of  the Highest most wasteful frequency's they could have used
In fact any frequency below approx 20 khz is. So FE isn't free energy after all, you’re paying for them to waste it.

Tesla said and many others on the net (you tube) mostly that at a certain frequency electrons travel in wire
with all sorts of restrictions (impurities) in the wire, that the same reason electricity will fry the in side of your body
some evil git called Edison proved that by killing huge animals in the street (perhaps because of greed).

However once above about 20 khz electric becomes like a gas (Tesla's words) because it starts to travel
on the out side surface of the wire It there fore becomes more efficient. So it's not free !

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 27, 2023, 03:48:14 PM
The most important thing we see is 25A on the ground wire. There is <400Hz because this is the range that the clamp meter has.
Not 400 Hz, but almost exactly the standard 50 Hz. They measure the frequency on the GreenBox video.


However once above about 20 khz electric becomes like a gas (Tesla's words) because it starts to travel
on the out side surface of the wire It there fore becomes more efficient. So it's not free !

Everything is quite the opposite.

Quote
The most important effect of skin effect on the impedance of a single wire, however, is the increase of the wire's resistance, and consequent losses.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect)

Quote
Skin Effect Resistance  Calculator
https://voltage-disturbance.com/engineering-calculators/skin-effect-calculator/ (https://voltage-disturbance.com/engineering-calculators/skin-effect-calculator/)

etc...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 27, 2023, 04:04:36 PM
yes i even have the specification of this inverter and how it works.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 27, 2023, 04:57:49 PM
Yes I can see why we are getting no where here, Electric power generating and transition is another subject
and not a part of this discussion and we all know thicker wire needs to be used on HF power feeds due to skin effect
but that’s off on a tangent. and the national grid and DC or AC transition lines have heay losses.
That was proved by an experiment where 3ft CFL tubes had one end stuck in the ground under
over head transition lines where they started to glow at night and in day time too.

sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on April 27, 2023, 04:59:11 PM
Is this pure sinewave inverter ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 27, 2023, 05:33:45 PM
No
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 27, 2023, 09:44:48 PM
I'm little confused  specify what you asking for please
Are you asking  about  isolation  transformer?
Wesley


[edit] nevermind
I was mistaken
Wrong “tk”.
Apparently amongst all of his showboating of other peoples technology, i had never noticed his first name started with a “T”, i had confused the initials for a long time serious experimenter that resides here.

That being said, i DO have several replicas of kapandze claimed devices, as well as a few of the originals from some of the people he copied over the years.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on April 28, 2023, 08:23:06 AM
AG
Quote
However once above about 20 khz electric becomes like a gas (Tesla's words) because it starts to travel
on the out side surface of the wire It there fore becomes more efficient. So it's not free !

Not only on the outside surface of a wire but almost any material including supposed insulators as well. These video's show the basic electrical effects most of these FE inventors were using pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx7tDNXYR8
Tesla Hairpin: Replication of Tesla's original experiments + more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiB8SIhmna0
TESLA'S HAIR PIN CIRCUIT Part 4(transmission through the ground & single wire transmission)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCZG5ccPsk&list=PL4b49PMTABrQysTVa1P0Gm5DffyEOn0_w&index=14
non-linear power transmission with tesla hairpin circuit

As we can clearly see these kinds of electrical effects are very different than what most people are used to. As Tesla implied this is a surface effect and the conductors can be hollow and paper thin or as small as a human hair lighting large lights. Obviously this kind of electrical energy is not low voltage or low frequency as some suggest, that's nonsense.

AC





Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on April 28, 2023, 08:26:29 AM
yes i even have the specification of this inverter and how it works.
I tried find on internet UPS-400 which was fabricating Armenia!  :o but i found nothing.
It became interesting to look at the scheme. A lot of different stuff passed through my
hands, but I have not seen anything like it. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on April 28, 2023, 08:43:20 AM
Quote
That being said, i DO have several replicas of kapandze claimed devices, as well as a few of the originals from some of the people he copied over the years.
got any reference video link or material ! ty

Regards
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 28, 2023, 11:06:35 AM
I tried find on internet UPS-400 which was fabricating Armenia!  :o but i found nothing.

https://electro-mashinform-ru.translate.goog/apparaty-dlya-vklyucheniya-galogennyh-lamp/preobrazovatelnoe-ustrojstvo-ups-400-tipa-upje-opopet-1-8-220-280-uhl4-obj2265.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en (https://electro-mashinform-ru.translate.goog/apparaty-dlya-vklyucheniya-galogennyh-lamp/preobrazovatelnoe-ustrojstvo-ups-400-tipa-upje-opopet-1-8-220-280-uhl4-obj2265.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en)
Converter UPS-400 type UPE-OPOPET-1.8-220/280-UHL4
Somewhere posted a hand-drawn diagram.
Nothing interesting, the output stage on the ancient power bipolar transistors produced by the "Transistor" plant in Yerevan. Probably the transistors are cut by hand with a hammer and saw from a single piece of metal in the Soviet era.  :D

https://www-155la3-ru.translate.goog/tk152.htm?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en (https://www-155la3-ru.translate.goog/tk152.htm?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2023, 04:25:24 PM
I tried find on internet UPS-400 which was fabricating Armenia!  :o but i found nothing.
It became interesting to look at the scheme. A lot of different stuff passed through my
hands, but I have not seen anything like it. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jq0txxoZRQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jq0txxoZRQ)


For diode:   well the same number looks like was applied to diode and transistor or I understand  it wrong?
http://www.155la3.ru/tk235.htm
 (http://www.155la3.ru/tk235.htm)Производитель - НПО "Транзистор", Ереван (Армения).   producer: NPO "Transistor" Yerevan  Armenia
Максимальный постоянный ток коллектора - 25/32/40 А
Максимальное импульсное напряжение коллектор-эмиттер при Iб=0 - 30...360 В /в зависимости от группы
Статический коэффициент передачи тока - 8...100 (10...100) /в зависимости от группы/
Максимальный обратный ток коллектора - 10 мА
]Максимальный обратный ток эмиттера - 150 мА
Граничная частота - 4 МГц
Время включения - 1 мкс     time to ON   1microsecond
Время выключения - 3 мкс   time to OFF  3microsecond
Тепловое сопротивление переход-корпус - 1,1/0,7/0,5 °C/Вт
Максимальная температура перехода +150 °C
Вероятность безотказной работы за 1000 ч - 0,97
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2023, 05:55:43 PM
 sources about this  element:
1. Чебовский О. Г. и др. Силовые полупроводниковые приборы: Справочник/ О. Г. Чебовский, Л.Г. Моисеев, Р.П. Недошивин - 2-е изд., перераб. и доп. - М.: Энергоатомиздат, 1985.
 2. Мощные полупроводниковые приборы. Транзисторы: Справочник / Б. А. Бородин, В. М. Ломакин, В. В. Мокряков и др.; Под ред. А. В. Голомедова. — М.: Радио и связь, 1985.
 3. Транзисторы: Справочник/ О. П. Григорьев, В. Я. Замятин, Б. В. Кондратьев, С. Л. Пожидаев - М.: Радио и связь, 1989.— (Массовая радиобиблиотека; Вып. 1144)

It looks like it is not a diode nor a transistor. bit sort of mix.
if you look at the picture  you see that one of the two legs is thinner.
And is described at the link as a transistor.
http://www.155la3.ru/tk235.htm (http://www.155la3.ru/tk235.htm)
Interesting is that  the one in green color has  number 2 in front: 2tk235
But looking  identically  in silver color  doesn't tk235
The  second number looks like year of production: tk235-63- 25 but I'm not sure.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 28, 2023, 06:21:56 PM
Ok I found  more  about it:
https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=16011 (https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=16011)
https://youtu.be/StYFX4axfQQ?t=1387 (https://youtu.be/StYFX4axfQQ?t=1342)
https://youtu.be/eE3AfRcS0qo?t=26 (https://youtu.be/eE3AfRcS0qo?t=26)

works up to 4MHz
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 29, 2023, 12:23:14 AM
4 MHz is the frequency at which the transistor has a gain of 1, that is, it simply conducts current.
I know similar characteristics of many Soviet transistors. "Transition frequency" of 4 MHz indicates that such a transistor is suitable only at low frequencies, a maximum of tens of kilohertz.
For example, KT8101A:
Transistors KT8101A silicon epitaxial-planar structures n-p-n universal.
 Designed for use in the output stages of audio frequency amplifiers, voltage stabilizers, converters.
The cutoff frequency of the current transfer coefficient of the transistor for a circuit with a common emitter: not less than 10 MHz;

https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=10503

 (https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=10503)In those days, there were no powerful mosfet transistors or IGBT modules.  Therefore, not efficient bipolar transistors as this TKxxx or similar were produced for use in power supplies or switches.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 29, 2023, 02:50:16 AM
sorry for interruption :fun with old battery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2TQmh6izS0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2TQmh6izS0)
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 29, 2023, 03:52:31 AM
AG
Not only on the outside surface of a wire but almost any material including supposed insulators as well. These video's show the basic electrical effects most of these FE inventors were using pretty well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx7tDNXYR8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlx7tDNXYR8)
Tesla Hairpin: Replication of Tesla's original experiments + more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiB8SIhmna0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiB8SIhmna0)
TESLA'S HAIR PIN CIRCUIT Part 4(transmission through the ground & single wire transmission)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCZG5ccPsk&list=PL4b49PMTABrQysTVa1P0Gm5DffyEOn0_w&index=14 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCZG5ccPsk&list=PL4b49PMTABrQysTVa1P0Gm5DffyEOn0_w&index=14)
non-linear power transmission with tesla hairpin circuit

As we can clearly see these kinds of electrical effects are very different than what most people are used to. As Tesla implied this is a surface effect and the conductors can be hollow and paper thin or as small as a human hair lighting large lights. Obviously this kind of electrical energy is not low voltage or low frequency as some suggest, that's nonsense.

AC


It creates its’ own path, this can also be done without a physical material
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 29, 2023, 07:10:26 AM
Yes nothing like stretching a 'point' however the point that's being missed is a spark 'gap'
can also be used as a switch, as most semiconductors 'fry' as low or far lower than 2 or 3 kvolt.
there are a few other points that are being missed out as well when comparing the don smith
device with other soviet devices.


Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 29, 2023, 09:09:07 AM
Let's continue the review of Kapanadze's video.

Video "Tariel Kapanadze generator 5kWt Aquarium1"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA)
What do the sounds that occur during operation mean?

1. When turned on, the device makes a strong rattling sound, which then subsides.
The sound is very similar to the operation of a vibration pump at low outlet pressure. During operation, the vibration pump probably creates the necessary pressure in some container. In the absence of this pressure, the armature of the electromagnet of the vibration pump hits on the core. When a high pressure is reached, the vibration pump piston needs more force to move, and the electromagnet armature associated with it no longer hits the core during vibrations, so the sound becomes quieter.
In addition, a feedback system is possible. When the pressure sensor detects the required level, it controls the triac regulator, which reduces the amplitude of the oscillation of the pump electromagnet.

2. Strange sounds from the spark gap.

At first it works rarely and aperiodically. Then the spark gap fires more and more often. Then the device is stopped by the operator with comments from observers that "the device is broken".
The device most likely has a microprocessor control in a separate shiny metal box.
The control system check the parameters of the output voltage and current. If there are any problems: voltage drop, frequency change, too much current in the load - the control system automatically changes some parameters of the device.
It can be assumed that rare stimulating discharges in the spark gap are necessary for the normal operation of this version of the device.
Probably at the end of the video, some problems occurred in the device, for example, something burned out, or some kind of tube broke and the component stopped flowing in the amount necessary for work. The control system attempted to compensate for voltage or frequency drops in the load by applying voltage pulses to the spark gap more frequently, for example by charging a storage capacitor at a faster rate. But this did not help, since the defect was fatal and the operator had to turn off the device.

https://youtu.be/YKmgS6VVcZA?t=1350 (https://youtu.be/YKmgS6VVcZA?t=1350)

Or such a situation was specially programmed in the control system to show that the device is still imperfect and further development is required.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 29, 2023, 12:37:55 PM
Let's continue the review of Kapanadze's video.

Video "Tariel Kapanadze generator 5kWt Aquarium1"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA)
What do the sounds that occur during operation mean?

1. When turned on, the device makes a strong rattling sound, which then subsides.
The sound is very similar to the operation of a vibration pump at low outlet pressure. During operation, the vibration pump probably creates the necessary pressure in some container. In the absence of this pressure, the armature of the electromagnet of the vibration pump hits on the core. When a high pressure is reached, the vibration pump piston needs more force to move, and the electromagnet armature associated with it no longer hits the core during vibrations, so the sound becomes quieter.
In addition, a feedback system is possible. When the pressure sensor detects the required level, it controls the triac regulator, which reduces the amplitude of the oscillation of the pump electromagnet.



A transformer in resonance also has such a sound effect and transformer welding machines too.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 29, 2023, 12:43:06 PM
Some other points, the Don Smith device operates at 35.1 khz, be aware that that is a sub sonic
frequency it's used in ultra sonic kleaners ( sub sonics can fry your insides ) nice eh!
Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 29, 2023, 04:42:11 PM
A transformer in resonance also has such a sound effect and transformer welding machines too.
1. But in the aquarium, the sound of the vibration stops completely, and the bulbs continue to glow. How so? "Resonance" is over, but the lights are on?
2. You need a very bad big transformer so that it vibrates so loudly that the sound from the plastic case drowns out the conversation of the observers.
3. A large iron transformer of 2 to 5 kilowatts would weigh too much, more than 10 kilograms. It would be very difficult to lift this device with outstretched arms. This is not visible in the video.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on April 29, 2023, 05:48:40 PM
Let's continue the review of Kapanadze's video.

Video "Tariel Kapanadze generator 5kWt Aquarium1"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKmgS6VVcZA)
What do the sounds that occur during operation mean?

1. When turned on, the device makes a strong rattling sound, which then subsides.
The sound is very similar to the operation of a vibration pump at low outlet pressure. During operation, the vibration pump probably creates the necessary pressure in some container. In the absence of this pressure, the armature of the electromagnet of the vibration pump hits on the core. When a high pressure is reached, the vibration pump piston needs more force to move, and the electromagnet armature associated with it no longer hits the core during vibrations, so the sound becomes quieter.
In addition, a feedback system is possible. When the pressure sensor detects the required level, it controls the triac regulator, which reduces the amplitude of the oscillation of the pump electromagnet.

2. Strange sounds from the spark gap.

At first it works rarely and aperiodically. Then the spark gap fires more and more often. Then the device is stopped by the operator with comments from observers that "the device is broken".
The device most likely has a microprocessor control in a separate shiny metal box.
The control system check the parameters of the output voltage and current. If there are any problems: voltage drop, frequency change, too much current in the load - the control system automatically changes some parameters of the device.
It can be assumed that rare stimulating discharges in the spark gap are necessary for the normal operation of this version of the device.
Probably at the end of the video, some problems occurred in the device, for example, something burned out, or some kind of tube broke and the component stopped flowing in the amount necessary for work. The control system attempted to compensate for voltage or frequency drops in the load by applying voltage pulses to the spark gap more frequently, for example by charging a storage capacitor at a faster rate. But this did not help, since the defect was fatal and the operator had to turn off the device.

https://youtu.be/YKmgS6VVcZA?t=1350 (https://youtu.be/YKmgS6VVcZA?t=1350)

Or such a situation was specially programmed in the control system to show that the device is still imperfect and further development is required.


Perhaps we should set up our own experiments, based on the technologies Mr. Kapadanze uses,
Except we should state the actual source materials.
Examining his replication of someone else’s technology results in missing information and data.
This leads to mystery and confusion.


https://youtu.be/ZYgFuUl9_Vs (https://youtu.be/ZYgFuUl9_Vs)

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on April 29, 2023, 06:15:08 PM
https://youtu.be/ZYgFuUl9_Vs (https://youtu.be/ZYgFuUl9_Vs)
I have been experimenting with the usual types of LC resonances for a long time. No free energy found. At resonance, the light bulb is on, but the current consumption increases many times, so that the wires from the power supply melt and burn.
The coil wire is heated, the capacitor is heated. All of these are wastes of energy. An interesting case was when the terminals of a film capacitor quickly warmed up to red. Of course this can be avoided, there are many capacitors and coils that are suitable for high currents and voltages. But it's not interesting because it doesn't work, it can't create real free energy.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 29, 2023, 07:00:32 PM
1. But in the aquarium, the sound of the vibration stops completely, and the bulbs continue to glow. How so? "Resonance" is over, but the lights are on?
2. You need a very bad big transformer so that it vibrates so loudly that the sound from the plastic case drowns out the conversation of the observers.
3. A large iron transformer of 2 to 5 kilowatts would weigh too much, more than 10 kilograms. It would be very difficult to lift this device with outstretched arms. This is not visible in the video.

We're guessing for now.
Melnichenko only works with transformers and coils. Ferrite cores and irons. He never showed anything else if his method is similar to Kapanadze's. You will agree that there is also HV and it is a side effect of BEMF. Melnichenko does not use HV but HF. Generator and frequency kHz. What is missing from Melnichenko coils?

See this: https://youtu.be/MSjz6mnqzOI
This is a 50 Hz resonance
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 29, 2023, 10:59:15 PM
A better comparison of the Melnichenko transformer and the Kapanadze transformer in the 2004 video.
Because Melnichenko separated the two halves of his transformer, we now have a transmission and receiver system.
What if Kapanadze took the output of L2 and directed it back into L1? Via diodes? Right there in our faces?
Vortex?
Any comments?
Food for thought and experiments?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8c82ABs02M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8c82ABs02M)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV6CkpPivds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV6CkpPivds)

What if Kapanadze used a steel laminate transformer instead of ferrite to limit runaway due to core saturation?
Is there any evidence in his 2004 video of hammers, and steel-cutting equipment?
Are we all just too slow to take 11 years to see it right in front of our eyes?
What do you think?


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on April 30, 2023, 08:23:56 AM
What if Kapanadze took the output of L2 and directed it back into L1? Via diodes? Right there in our faces?

Because Melnichenko separated the two halves of his transformer, we now have a transmission and receiver system.

GIA showed a diagram where the L2 coil is connected via a diode to L1. The patent can show it too.


pic: The Kapanadze transformer has no space. Only the coils are separated from each other.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 30, 2023, 01:10:03 PM
Ok I found  more  about it:
https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=16011 (https://eandc.ru/catalog/detail.php?ID=16011)
https://youtu.be/StYFX4axfQQ?t=1387 (https://youtu.be/StYFX4axfQQ?t=1342)
https://youtu.be/eE3AfRcS0qo?t=26 (https://youtu.be/eE3AfRcS0qo?t=26)

works up to 4MHz
Wesley
Wesley, do you know of any Western equivalents to these specifications?
Or where we can obtain these components today?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on April 30, 2023, 02:33:42 PM
All, some of this soviet stuff is 40 to 50 years old, usually with high power your trading off
gain for max Collector Emitter current flow, but one draw back is cut off frequency and heat
due to depletion break over voltage usually with silicon is about 0.6 of a volt.

so my question is why bother with this old junk ? When a Mos-Fet has a far superior  asset over any bipolar.

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on April 30, 2023, 05:31:43 PM
Wesley, do you know of any Western equivalents to these specifications?
Or where we can obtain these components today?
Everything now is made on IGBT transistors.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on April 30, 2023, 08:23:12 PM
Another look at the transformer, showing a raised area. Also a look at his work table with hammers and metal working tools with what is almost certainly another transformer.
How I wish the camera person had zoomed in on that table.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 01, 2023, 01:20:12 PM
Is this Kapanadze's workshop? are you sure ?


100%
               28.02   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE&t=1509s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE&t=1509s)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 01, 2023, 01:26:56 PM

100%
               28.02   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE&t=1509s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99g4mjEvTE&t=1509s)

This transformer is factory. I have its specs.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 01, 2023, 02:42:06 PM
Is all that transformer is doing is dropping your output voltage power down from a high voltage to a
 manageable level (a bit like what the mains energy from the grid does ) to power the input pulse
 oscillator to run the system which is different from the
 Ruslan as that does not store pulsed stored energy to dump into the grenade section which might
be why that system doesn't work.

PS until you figure out whats going on i wouldn't quit 'the' day time job just yet  ;D ;D

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 01, 2023, 05:21:27 PM
Sergh
Quote
1. But in the aquarium, the sound of the vibration stops completely, and the bulbs continue to glow. How so? "Resonance" is over, but the lights are on?

The sound your hearing is a transformer vibrating against the bottom of the plexiglass box.
As the load changes the frequency of the transformer changes changing the sound.
I have heard this same sound countless times and it's normal when high current impulses are being used.
AC transformers are not designed for high current capacitive discharge impulses.

Quote
2. You need a very bad big transformer so that it vibrates so loudly that the sound from the plastic case drowns out the conversation of the observers.

Not at all and the poorly made plexiglass box is amplifying the sound of the vibrating transformer.
I can also hear an over voltage spark gap running at about 20 cycles/sec on startup and dropping
to around 3 to 5 cycles/sec once the light panel is connected.

Quote
3. A large iron transformer of 2 to 5 kilowatts would weigh too much, more than 10 kilograms.
It would be very difficult to lift this device with outstretched arms. This is not visible in the video.

You mean a standard low frequency/low voltage AC transformer which this is not.
In fact I have built countless HF/HV high power DC/DC converters you could hold in your hand.
Here is a clue, Power=Volts x Amps, and a 1KW transformer running at 1000v only needs a
current near 1 amp. Large bulky LF/LV AC transformers is for amateurs not those skilled in the art.

Understand, most of these free energy inventors are not amateurs and have decades of
experience building new or advanced technology. It's supposed to be better and more efficient
than the crap most people are using. For example, many consider 220v high voltage where I
consider anything less than 5000v low voltage.

Here's another clue, there's a 99% chance the small gold box Kapanadze used to start the device
is the same as the one Hubbard used.
It uses the 9v battery to run a small circuit which charges a small cap up to high voltage then
dumps it into the main circuit as a single impulse. The blue switch starts the 9v to HV circuit to
charge the cap, the next switch is to isolate the cap from the 9v/HV circuit and the push button
dumps the cap into the main circuit. It has to be a single HV impulse because the main unit is
running at a variable frequency in a closed loop. A loop has no beginning or end, it's a circle,
so we need to dump an impulse into something like the primary winding cap to start the HF/HV process.

No offense but you boys need to pick up your game because you seem to have no idea what your doing.

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 01, 2023, 05:32:15 PM
I got it from a person who has such a transformer. Unfortunately, there is no photo of the transformer itself.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 01, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
Sergh:
The pump only makes noise when empty, right? see the video when they turn on more bulbs then you hear this sound again. Only a transformer under load can do this.



onepower:
I don't think there is a submersible pump there. Transformer !


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 01, 2023, 05:57:05 PM
R2
that transformer is far too big a simple Fero device with low power 500 volt is a good idea charging up a RC
network and then either an SCR driving the grenade type device could well  do it  or 2 x 240 volt neon
spark gap over voltage devices could suffice for the pulse but the freq would be important,

Also that noise is like a relay vibrating (look at Nelson's old vid's, sounds just like it ) to start up oscillations.

R2 you need to know what your doing, It's true what they say, 'little knowledge is dangerous'.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 01, 2023, 06:26:17 PM
I got it from a person who has such a transformer. Unfortunately, there is no photo of the transformer itself.
Are you referring to the transformer at 26.39 in my post with the 2 transformers?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 01, 2023, 06:36:16 PM
Are you referring to the transformer at 26.39 in my post with the 2 transformers?

Yes !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on May 01, 2023, 08:45:13 PM
Interesting how both low voltage and AC voltage are required. Thats what I see from screenshots of this video, maybe in round box there is kind of rotary interrupted ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 02, 2023, 11:07:28 AM
any Western equivalents to these specifications?

When studying the datasheets of powerful bipolar transistors, it is necessary to pay attention to the gigantic base current necessary for their operation.  As well as a relatively long switching time.

Since there is no normal datasheet on the TKxxx transistors, hypothetical analogues is:

BUF460AV
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUF460AV (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUF460AV)
https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUF460AV.pdf (https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUF460AV.pdf)

BUV298V
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUV298V (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUV298V)
https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUV298V.pdf (https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUV298V.pdf)

BUX348
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUX348 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=BUX348)
https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUX348.pdf (https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/ST%20Microelectronics%20PDFS/BUX348.pdf)

If you need powerful or high-frequency transistors, you can ask the specialists who service medical equipment. For example, magnetic resonance imaging devices. These devices become obsolete, they are thrown into the garbage heaps and disposed of somehow. There are a lot of interesting things.

Or where we can obtain these components today?
:-\
If you need these medieval transistors, I guess I can arrange with the sellers to send the order to the US.
Prices on their site are about $10 a piece, but for selling one transistor they are unlikely to want to mess around. Shipping will cost a lot more.
But I suppose that they are well suited only in museum.
They are called TK not because "Tariel Kapanadze"  but because the "Transistor Kremnieviy"(RUS) - silicon transistor.
Sergh:
The pump only makes noise when empty, right? see the video when they turn on more bulbs then you hear this sound again. Only a transformer under load can do this.
I already wrote. Why does the "transformer" stop very loudly buzzing, but the bulbs after that keep glowing in silence?

On your transformer circuit, the current is too optimistic.  With a current in the primary winding of 2 amperes 220 volts, such a transformer will smoke after a couple of minutes at full load.

The Soviet transformer TS180 with a power of 180 watts has a primary winding with a thicker wire, 0.8 mm in diameter.

https://www.tehnari.ru/attachments/f119/90005d1343665611-180.jpg (https://www.tehnari.ru/attachments/f119/90005d1343665611-180.jpg)

And even if we allow a current of 2 amperes 220 volts, then this is only about 400 watts. It will not be enough for 2 kilowatt light bulbs.

Tariel talks in this video about microprocessor control system in this device. His "Arduino" in a shiny metal box open the valve and start again the pump to compensate  pressure drop due increase load.
The transformer is only for powering the device from the output. Look at the first photo. 2 pairs of wires are connected to the transformer on the primary winding.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577176/#msg577176 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577176/#msg577176)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 02, 2023, 03:02:51 PM
Sergh: Analyze what you see and hear.


https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=526
8:46 !!!!
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 02, 2023, 03:05:46 PM
The Soviet transformer TS180 with a power of 180 watts has a primary winding with a thicker wire, 0.8 mm in diameter.


I have find it in my shed. It was made by me more twenty years ago.
That same TC-180 and a pair old good KT825.  :)
You can squeeze(got) two hundred watts out of it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 02, 2023, 04:10:39 PM
Sergh: Analyze what you see and hear.


https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=526 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=526)
8:46 !!!!
https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706)

11:40 - all light bulb are on, but no loud vibration is heard. Almost nothing is audible, except spark gap.
AC vibration pumps have a trick - the performance of the pump can be controlled by a dimmer on a triac. Ordinary triac power regulator. Via opto-triac or solid state relay.

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 02, 2023, 04:19:10 PM
Hmm i doubt the transister is disipating 200 Watts if it was it would be a wast of power due to incorrect switching
 like on and off time slope.
Or perhaps your using them as linear light dimmer then it might, but i dout it would live very long with max current
and voltage at the same time and dont forget at peek current flow you have that across your collecter Emitter 0.6
of a volt drop.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 02, 2023, 07:47:03 PM
Sergh: Do you see a spot in the 2004 installation? orange coil or 2kW device ?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 03, 2023, 07:34:32 AM
https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706)
I have remembered where I saw that TV board. :) :)
In this video, where a man holds an aquarium with the back side to the camera.
Round lamp panels on the board. This device does not use lamps.
And I already thought that I dreamed it. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 03, 2023, 08:11:15 AM
The guy holding the device is TK him self.

Why use that video there is another version of it with English sub titles and translatable captions.
the other thing is the spark gap ticking, what’s important is the time between each tick? in other
words what’s important is is there load feed back electronics ?


Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 03, 2023, 05:12:45 PM
https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706 (https://youtu.be/0Z3S4R_wycU?t=706)
I have remembered where I saw that TV board. :) :)
In this video, where a man holds an aquarium with the back side to the camera.
Round lamp panels on the board. This device does not use lamps.
And I already thought that I dreamed it. :)
The turn-on sound always reminds me of a ballast sound, like this after the switch-clicking sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYXErnMAcw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RYXErnMAcw)


Anyway, the turn on and off in Aquarium 1 alters the speed of the spark gap over-voltage fail-safe device.
We can be pretty sure it follows his patent application.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on May 05, 2023, 04:30:51 PM
I think the essence of work of device is in coils interactions, thus even a primitive capacitor discharge via spark gap is able to create effect.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 06, 2023, 08:37:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNDL0CLXno
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 06, 2023, 10:28:26 AM
When studying the datasheets of powerful bipolar transistors, it is necessary to pay attention to the gigantic base current necessary for their operation.
This problem was largely solved in ATX and AT computer power supplies. There, a part of the secondary winding is included in the base circuit of the bipolar transistor. I wonder whose smart head came up with this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNDL0CLXno (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pNDL0CLXno)
Good video.And at least honestly, unlike many others.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 06, 2023, 08:05:23 PM
https://youtu.be/dmHaCQ8Ul6E (https://youtu.be/dmHaCQ8Ul6E)
Это Веслису.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 07, 2023, 02:25:50 PM
Particularly : Germany,each Deutscher*in ;D ,gens(to differ mens) ,gente : gendern,"vermenschlicheln" ::)
https://www.capital.de/wirtschaft-politik/-jeder-deutsche-beschaeftigt-30-bis-50-sklaven--33269944.html (https://www.capital.de/wirtschaft-politik/-jeder-deutsche-beschaeftigt-30-bis-50-sklaven--33269944.html)
And You,G7er ? How many in , personal (indirect/-ly) , ownership ?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EM4vblG6BVQ (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EM4vblG6BVQ)
But there could come a time,.....,in G7-dominion !?
https://www.minimum-wage.org/international/uzbekistan (https://www.minimum-wage.org/international/uzbekistan)

Wellness wishing
OCWL
p.s.: as Deutscher I am really surprised,what only 30-50/ea ?         83 Mio. habitants(incl. migrants asylants,and other) x 30 / x 50 :
         Up to 1/2 world population

         The other 1/2 ? : becoming/staying free or also 'bondage'-boned(bonded)/slaves ?
        I am more a Grace Jones ' slave'

       https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XLzIswI2s (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XLzIswI2s)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 07, 2023, 06:45:04 PM
Kapanadze, Akula and Ruslan Device Part 8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7du9f-f9t0

Kapanadze, Dally and Ruslan device Part 1; Push pull testing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23JFW4gQV7w

Kapanadze oscillator - logical circuit CD4049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaP-8WQrSXg

The Kapanadze coil analysed by William J. McFreey. May 2012 By releasing the videos of his electromechanical device, Kap
https://pdfcoffee.com/kapanadze-device-pdf-free.html

Miscellaneous - http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Willy on May 07, 2023, 08:17:12 PM
Frigging awsome comentary Stivep !


@
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577439/#msg577439
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 08, 2023, 01:06:16 AM
Frigging awsome comentary Stivep !
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577439/#msg577439 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577439/#msg577439)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP5dfjxdkQ4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP5dfjxdkQ4)
 Part #2 video.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 08, 2023, 11:22:40 AM
Kapanadze generator and a bank with a secret
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/kJftgdX7DnjyDQ

CURRENT FROM STATIC ELECTRICITY. Delamorto.
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/G1mrEHAdeitaSw
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 08, 2023, 01:49:13 PM
Kapanadze generator and a bank with a secret
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/kJftgdX7DnjyDQ

CURRENT FROM STATIC ELECTRICITY. Delamorto.
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/G1mrEHAdeitaSw


...CURRENT FROM STATIC ELECTRICITY. Delamorto.

Really? 75A !!!? come on; show me this power.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 09, 2023, 01:29:05 AM
Kapanadze generator and a bank with a secret
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/kJftgdX7DnjyDQ (https://disk.yandex.ru/i/kJftgdX7DnjyDQ)

CURRENT FROM STATIC ELECTRICITY. Delamorto.
https://disk.yandex.ru/i/G1mrEHAdeitaSw (https://disk.yandex.ru/i/G1mrEHAdeitaSw)
Clamp meters are designed for 50 or 60 Hz at mains voltage.
This guy is outputting Mhz frequency and thousands of volts from his device.
If the energy is really there then he should power his house.



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 09, 2023, 03:35:05 AM
 here it is: part 3 of Soyuz INK "Globus indicator,
In my comment: https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577439/#msg577439 (https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg577439/#msg577439)
I indicated that that Russian beauty of engineering  could be a copy of American Tech or stolen from us like almost everything else.
And I was  right. American globus was used in: Mercury spacecraft mission  called Earth Path Indicator
Although  look smaller on the picture in minute 10:10 of the video.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG29HrU6Slw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG29HrU6Slw)
I do really appreciate Russian Technology of that time that is gone along with its creators.
There were numbers of videos showing Soviets making  counterfeit  of American cars, appliances, or anything  you could think of .
but in the present time the eye catching is this https://youtu.be/qwSNPTe2o1c?t=34 (https://youtu.be/qwSNPTe2o1c?t=34)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmjoSEg6EBI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmjoSEg6EBI)

opinion expressed is my own

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 09, 2023, 02:23:41 PM
Hello Wesley,from East European industrial R&D I never ex(s)pect typical western consumer ware results,but well
functional solutions !
East Europe is not Russia,but Russia makes part,up to the Uralmountains , from Europe-East :
https://web.archive.org/web/20040803031518/http://bufo.ru/indexeng.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20040803031518/http://bufo.ru/indexeng.htm)
I did not find in the Western some similar technology,probably from orbital and/or military instruments ,R&D !
Geo and Geo+ :

Geo + : Gold (material specific ad-/dis-vantage) as surface track material
Alternatively : artificial plastics/metals (mono-/poly-mere) with Gold-similar specific properties,cheap !?

ElectricDischarge and ElectricCharge  melting and sputting  process :
https://www.kitco.com/news/2018-11-29/Scientists-Succeed-At-Melting-Gold-At-Room-Temperature.html (https://www.kitco.com/news/2018-11-29/Scientists-Succeed-At-Melting-Gold-At-Room-Temperature.html)


Gold and -related today Earth  (spot)market availability,the change potential  :
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/asteroids/16-psyche/in-depth/ (https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/asteroids/16-psyche/in-depth/)

Also applyable in masses ,after 90% ,99%,99,9% gold price decrease :
http://www.rexresearch.com/pinhero/pinhero.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/pinhero/pinhero.htm)

Nantenna artificial photonic/natural photonic(solar TPV)output amplifier,recommended:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_UKVEBxYFM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_UKVEBxYFM)

We have to supply :
to the ' photoelectric effect' ,PVoltaic,(A.Einstein Nobel Awarded-theory study ) now ,IR+ EM spectrum related, the ' phonoelectric effect',TVoltaic, [Max/(originaery: Markus) Planck specific e=hv ,h= Wirkungsquantum,a numeric constante)

+ avalance effect adaption :   https://phys.org/news/2008-05-avalanche-effect-solar-cells.html


To realize good ideas,there are not political and social limitations,/frontiers allowed or acceptable !


wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: sm0ky2 on May 09, 2023, 02:59:34 PM
Hello Wesley,from East European industrial R&D I never ex(s)pect typical western consumer ware results,but well
functional solutions !
East Europe is not Russia,but Russia makes part,up to the Uralmountains , from Europe-East :
https://web.archive.org/web/20040803031518/http://bufo.ru/indexeng.htm (https://web.archive.org/web/20040803031518/http://bufo.ru/indexeng.htm)
I did not find in the Western some similar technology,probably from orbital and/or military instruments ,R&D !
Geo and Geo+ :

Geo + : Gold (material specific ad-/dis-vantage) as surface track material
Alternatively : artificial plastics/metals (mono-/poly-mere) with Gold-similar specific properties,cheap !?

ElectricDischarge and ElectricCharge  melting and sputting  process :
https://www.kitco.com/news/2018-11-29/Scientists-Succeed-At-Melting-Gold-At-Room-Temperature.html (https://www.kitco.com/news/2018-11-29/Scientists-Succeed-At-Melting-Gold-At-Room-Temperature.html)


Gold and -related today Earth  (spot)market availability,the change potential  :
https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/asteroids/16-psyche/in-depth/ (https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/asteroids-comets-and-meteors/asteroids/16-psyche/in-depth/)

Also applyable in masses ,after 90% ,99%,99,9% gold price decrease :
http://www.rexresearch.com/pinhero/pinhero.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/pinhero/pinhero.htm)

Nantenna artificial photonic/natural photonic(solar TPV)output amplifier,recommended:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_UKVEBxYFM (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x_UKVEBxYFM)

To realize good ideas,there are not political and social limitations,/frontiers allowed or acceptable !


wmbr
OCWL


Inventors / patent owners are no longer held to the standards of the past, in the way they once were.
While it may be true that (as of the early 90’s) scientists were not describing the effects of ultrasonic treatments in terms of material-specific surface properties: the transducer was being used (commercially and industrially) for decades prior.
The jewelry cleaner was developed from this in the 70’s


as for the lense guy, he has been trying to secure the government cloaking grants (with minimal success). Notice how he warps the perspective of his analysis, in much the same way as he warps the light reflected from a surface. Instead of an actual mirror, he demonstrates superiority over a flexible (and non-flat) polyamide. Often Mylar sheets on a board (not even stretched)
These misleading tactics are more for self promotion than a display of science.

That’s not to say these technologies (and associated research) have no usefulness, because they do have great potential in many areas. Only that the self-promoted goals are intended to mislead in order to achieve an economic advantage, not to advance the science itself.




Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 09, 2023, 05:38:14 PM
A must read , good read - http://samlib.ru/u/utkin_w_m/secrets_of_nikola.shtml
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 09, 2023, 08:35:55 PM
I'll share here an effect i discovered and i have been using it for quite some time to keep my airconditioner remote's batteries charged.
But I don't have air conditioner.  How can I check your effect ?  :'(
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 09, 2023, 09:42:31 PM
You are right.House just covered by trees. And its don't need electroenergy for cooling. :)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: perpetual on May 10, 2023, 12:03:44 AM
::) ,Hi  ;) hi
Walking back our natural roots ! :)
OCWL
p.s.:  AA1 couple -intermittent/interfacing- AA2  with

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20070201&CC=JP&NR=2007028879A&KC=A#

Measureable effect ? Work-power increase,work-time prolongation ?

 ::) ,Hi  ;) hi

Always staying close to our natural roots! :)

AA1/2 can be paralleled continuously for some time or combined with pulsing as i did today believing it improves the effect. And similar things have been discussed here.

Nix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 10, 2023, 01:21:56 AM
Patrick Kelly

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/German.html
Chapter 5
page 5-6

Okay !
Thanks !
Good Night, 85er !
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: perpetual on May 10, 2023, 11:35:59 AM
Good Morning,IVer !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwgDbE6gh44&list=PLS6CmWwu5VGmYsgX5-2kFtPsE-iIsXj_o&index=184

The Tesla Switch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQMHnu87jzg

Benitez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfdZfV64zns

ChatGPT wimmelt in seiner jetzigen Form von Fehlern. Aber ChatGPT ist nicht das Thema. Machen Sie sich besser mit den echten deutschen Entwicklungen auf diesem Gebiet vertraut  ;D ::)

RundFlugZeug

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-secret-programs-and-postwar-survival/

Atombomben

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-a-bomb/

Todesstrahlen

https://vril12.wordpress.com/nazi-death-rays/

Nix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: dsquared18 on May 11, 2023, 04:51:50 AM
Sounded funny to me - along the lines "Stop that! It's silly... And now for something completely different..." (one Brit to another).  ;)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 11, 2023, 03:08:04 PM

I'm proud to be Indian, said to be God's own country.
Have you Brahmadanda?  Brahma Danda?
It need to me very much. Or how to do that ?
With such a thing, I would have passed all the border guards. 8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 11, 2023, 11:05:06 PM
what stopped you all this years
All I  need is to know. All my activity is to check ,see, taste it.
All  questions related to Lithuania  Experiment  please address to  T-1000 Arunas. He is master mind behind it.
or please read what was written in the past in this forum.

I have got  experimental data for  A to B energy transfer . I compared it to Kapanadze  device and  I found common ground there.
I'm not interested to do business in this area. All I  need is to know. All my activity is to check ,see, taste it.
These Russians made me rethink my course of action.
-for some time  now - I can cause the  original Kapanadze device, to be placed straight into some of these terrorists  throat for
what they did to me in the past or because I woke up tomorrow and was overwhelmed  by news from Ukraine  .
My own experimenting, although  far primitive comparing to  Kapanadze  achievement,  still presents some value too.
 
opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 12, 2023, 01:09:15 AM
perpetual
Quote
Clearly energy is coming from somewhere, many of these devices are not grounded so it is clearly not electrons from the earth. It is clearly not electrons from the air either for free ions in the air could never account for that amount of power except maybe with huge aerials, like the one in Plauson's converter i shared here

Of course, there is a pattern and at first many claim the extra energy comes from the air or ground. Which may relate to our own superficial need for an obvious answer even though one is never forthcoming. Then some inventors rise above the superficial and begin to understand the energy was never external in the sense they thought it was.

Here is the pattern relating to the level of understanding...
1)the inventor thinks the energy gain is simple, external and from the ground or air.
2)the inventor learns something new and antennas and ground connections are no longer needed. The devices become smaller and self-contained.
3)Many who built stand alone FE devices then went on to build supposed anti-gravity devices implying a connection.

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 12, 2023, 02:11:03 AM
reedited:
WHICH TYPE OF ENERGY IS GETTING CONVERTED INTO MEASURABLE ELECTRICITY IN THE VIDEOS YOU SHARED ON YOUR CHANNEL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU&list=UULF1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU&list=UULF1ZrGlkxBvG9WOwIs2eApLA)
I explained it already:
here is a quote:
As far as Energy in devices presented on my videos:
I assumed that Kapanadze device was  legit and real :
 As of today  the only  explanation is energy conversion. presented in my videos.
 The most convincing to me is that  Kapanadze used A to B energy transfer, using  surface wave trapped in the earth air interface .
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw)

 Although this creates assumption that he  tricked public, he presented  one of the biggest discoveries of the present time worth by itself  a great attention.
 However  the energy in his device could be totally based on  nature with no involvement of a man made transmitter .
 His device was superior comparing to  mine. I was never  even close to  technological level or miniaturization of his device.
 I never even tried  nor achieved  high energy transfer level  Tariel presented . For me the only important  was  a proof of concept.
Wesley
more of explanation is here:


Clearly energy is coming from somewhere, many of these devices are not grounded so it is clearly not electrons from the earth.
It is clearly not electrons from the air either for free ions in the air could never account for that amount of power except maybe with
huge aerials, like the one in Plauson's converter i shared here
https://overunity.com/18848/plausons-converter/ (https://overunity.com/18848/plausons-converter/) 
but there are no such aerials, in fact, there are no aerials at all, just resonant coils and caps. Which type of energy is getting converted into electricity?
Paulson patent has nothing to do with it. https://patents.google.com/patent/US1540998A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US1540998A/en)
More explanation is
here: https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=367 (https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=367)
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539679/#msg539679 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539679/#msg539679)
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539593/#msg539593 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539593/#msg539593)
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/174200/image// (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/174200/image//)
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ&t=675s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOTLfnMOSqQ&t=675s)
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546541/#msg546541 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546541/#msg546541) practical
Part 1 of preparation and understanding:
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546827/#msg546827 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546827/#msg546827)
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/176576/image// (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/176576/image//) 100W Tx 137kHz
here: http://www.corridor.biz/FullArticle.pdf (http://www.corridor.biz/FullArticle.pdf) fist experience with Goubau line the easiest  form of  interface to try it  first it works  100%

Part 1 of practical guidance
here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg552081/#msg552081 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg552081/#msg552081) 
Schematic and winding information
        for Tx- ( transmitter) to experiment with surface wave in the interface called Zenneck Wave.
        The rest of parts is as fallowing 1,2,3,4, and so on.

No more BS, stivep, let's hear it.
I am asking you a fair, simple question. You already answered half-way, you said it is a conversion and there i fully agree. Finish your answer, say which type of energy is getting 'converted' or rather stepped down into electricity.
No more Hanky Panky please. Just answer the question finally.
Nix
You have no appreciation to time, money spend, and work done  nor to my  voluntary contribution.
I don't try to change your view but I'm not you, nor want to be like you.
I have  small room in Stefan house and  I'm happy to have you all here.
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 12, 2023, 04:33:16 AM
Dear perpetual.
I don't accept your point of view.
Science doesn't accept it too.
last time I explain.

In my opinion and my experiments Kapanadze device works in two ways:
1.
based on  man made  energy transfer from point A to point B.
that means : some guy sends energy from point A and Kapanadze receives this energy in point B.
explanation to  point 1
Electrical energy can be traditionally send with use of wire but this is not the case here.
Goubau created  interface from wire covered with dielectric e.g teflon.
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo)
https://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/g-line-community-tv-system-november-1956-radio-television-news.htm (https://www.rfcafe.com/references/radio-news/g-line-community-tv-system-november-1956-radio-television-news.htm)
The device is called Goubau line  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line)
energy is transported  in the interface between the conductor and dielectric in form of  EM wave - from point A to point B
The video is intentionally asking scientists about longitudinal aspect of the electric field.
Of course it was a nonsense for me to even ask, but  I was trying  to  make conversation  happened.
 Dear  readers. Electromagnetic Wave is transversal not  longitudinal 
So don't be confused by the discussion in  my video.


1a.
types of INTERFACE: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560166/#msg560166 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560166/#msg560166)
energy can be send  from point A to point B using different types of interface made from:
a. conductor-wire coated with dielectric
b. conductor and dielectric - the sandwich
c. dielectric and another dielectric having different dielectric constant. - the sandwich
d. lossy conductive medium  like Earth still serving as a conductor and Air as a dielectric.

explanation to  point 1a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIIABIU3tRw)
this video shows  different types of interfaces used commercially.
So what for  human eye  looks like no gap between  conductor and dielectric - e.g wire  coated with dielectric
for EM wave is a  wide open highway.
Shape  is not important. It could be:
 -a flat  copper plate and air 
-flat aluminum 3ft wide foil with air as dielectric on it.  https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182860/image// (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182860/image//)
- flat piece of dielectric- teflon with air as another dielectric on it  https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182859/image// (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182859/image//)
- water, pond , lake, ocean,  as lossy conductive medium and air as dielectric. https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182886/image// (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/dlattach/attach/182886/image//)

1b.  Dr James Corum used  an interface   made from  Seneca lake water and  air.
     http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf (http://rexresearch.com/corumzenneck/texzon.pdf)
     and than he used interface made from  Earth as a lossy conductive medium and Air as dielectric.
     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He5xQOJHlrU)
explanation to  point 1b.
      me and my partner in science we used interface described in point 1b.
 

2. Another way  to power Kapanadze device is to  extract  energy from Schumann waveguide
  Energy  fluctuation in  Earth / Ionosphere  waveguide  causes lightnings and in   effect of it is responsible for Schumann resonances.
  One lightning creates avalanches of lightnings around the globe and electromagnetic energy in form of wave  circulating in the waveguide.
  If such energy  initiated  by lightning  enters the boundary of that waveguide - the Earth at the complex Brewster Angle - no reflection no refraction than
  this energy is trapped in the earth / air interface and we have millions of  lightnings every second adding energy to it.
  due to very low frequency the losses are  very  small and Inverse Square law doesn't apply to waveguides.

  If we place  anywhere  in this  interface  vertical antenna acting as a probe  in the waveguide  we will sense energy in the waveguide
  but we are interested to see  energy in the interface instead. So some condition must  be met.
  And here we  have the Kapanadze device or Dr  James Corum device or my own device.

  So  if we just have the device made exactly for the  energy transfer  from A to B and we decide to use it to  sense energy in the interface
  that originated  from Schumann waveguide - we can still use it. the only difference is in tuning .
explanation to  point 2.
 -if Tariel was using  his device  as a receiver of energy naturally  existing in the interface than his device was true FE device
 -if
Tariel was using  his device  as a receiver of energy send  form distant transmitter than his device was not true FE device
But just   being able to  have kWs of energy send from A to B using Earth Air interface is remarkable discovery  made much before  Dr James Corum.
by that  his 200+ patents could be revoked if prior art of Kapanadze  was to be proven.( his  patent  application from 2008)

Wesley

 
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 12, 2023, 10:08:10 AM
Nix, if you are such a cool guy, draw a diagram of a really working installation that produces 5 kilowatts of free energy.Confirmed by your real experiments and independent replicators.The truth that has no base is smoke without fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op_J1fgK4Pc
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 12, 2023, 10:59:48 AM
 :(   I'm not Wesley, but your interpretation of this Alik upset me.
Read carefully all messages of this Alik. They are spread over 11 pages, translated by Google:

https://realstrannik-com.translate.goog/forum/btg-tarielya-kapanadze/784-gidravlicheskij-generator-kapanadze?start=0&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en (https://realstrannik-com.translate.goog/forum/btg-tarielya-kapanadze/784-gidravlicheskij-generator-kapanadze?start=0&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en)

Write down only the facts that he said there. What exactly did he do for Kapanadze? Consider these facts. Without speculation about resonance and Tesla.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 12, 2023, 03:00:07 PM
If you are such a cool guy, don't ask others to show you exactly how, figure it out yourself.
As soon as possible.
Mechanical resonant oscillation
There is already one. Excellent and perfect mechanical resonant device.
Mechanical Filters April 1969 Electronics World:

https://www.rfcafe.com/references/electronics-world/mechanical-filters-electronics-world-april-1969.htm
https://youtu.be/dYSkeN_vZ7o?t=393

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 12, 2023, 05:45:29 PM
official science is based on models.
overunity doesn't exist and  such concepts are rejected by Patent Office in every country including Croatia.
Your name is nick -nikola I assume
The  name of this forum is "overunity"
We don't judge a book by its cover , person by  his name or forum by its name too.
 Name has nothing to do with nonexisting "overunity" - it is just the name.

Educationally approved material for students is based on official   science.
You have rights   to you opinion  just please, don't repeat your inflammatory phrases all over again.
I already know  what you think about me.
Thank you  very much and all the best
73 and 88
Wesley
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: hartiberlin on May 12, 2023, 07:26:41 PM
Wesley, I have removed you as the moderator, as you always claim,Overunity does not exist...
Not a good advice over here in this forum...


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 12, 2023, 08:42:46 PM
Wesley, I have removed you as the moderator, as you always claim,Overunity does not exist...
Not a good advice over here in this forum...
He do not say this.
"Overunity" or "free energy" are oxymorons.
It is just the case where we don't know the source.
Heat pump and air conditioner is COP>=3 device, but nobody say "free energy" as we know the source.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on May 12, 2023, 08:56:20 PM
WESLEY IT IS  8) ;DLIKE SAYING THE DEVIL LOVE DRINKING HOLLY WATER.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 12, 2023, 09:08:04 PM
Wesley, I have removed you as the moderator, as you always claim,Overunity does not exist...
Not a good advice over here in this forum...

Not true ! overunity exists ....really, I write posts here  :)
Seriously: recently scientists discovered that the universe is expanding so energy is being supplied. Yes or no ?

I think these are just words and everyone knows they can be interpreted better or worse. This is not a precise term. For example, the patent office offers the possibility of filing a perpetual motion device in several variants  :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: don smith on May 12, 2023, 11:21:01 PM
Stefan is again showing how bad his judgment is, how naive he is and how easily he is swayed by those who are against the Truth, so he does injustice, he only removed the overunity denier's mod status, while he blocked my account from posting cause i supposedly "annoyed many" ("many" means 2 'users', we all know which). Like i said i got at least 4-5 more accounts waiting to be used. Anyway, i would not even write if i did not just see overunity denier edited his post and added the part where he denies power amplification in RLC tank as well, well, that will not pass unaddressed.

overunity doesn't exist so I can't explain it nor any scientist will.

Yes  I deny antigravity, perpetual motion of magnetic motors,
and Yes there is no power amplification in RLC tank, only voltage OR current, as energy
can't be created nor destroyed.
The amount energy delivered is always bigger than at the output of RLC tank

No need to repeat how wrong all his claims are about overunity, antigravity, magnet motors, ether etc. As for his claim "there is no power amplification in RLC tank".
He just makes such claim, absolute absurdity, it concerns him not the least that his claim has been long debunked. To recap, let's see practical examples

2.34kW reactive with 105W input.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVgp-gOBqsg

3.5kw reactive with 200W input.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sfOKPIi6CM

I have PERSONALLY pumped power into MOT primary which was 2.5 times the input at 50Hz, precisely measured. This MOT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvehhwBK1pk

But important that he banned me and did not ban that LIAR.

Moreover he claims there can be no excess energy in RLC tank. Yet resonant parallel RLC is the very basis of countless overunity devices including many he has shared on his channel. It's just ridiculous.

And guy i shared before who pumps 2.34kW in his big trans with 105W input.

Here he is looping it with UPS battery, battery starts at 13.69V.

Then he powers 280W of lights + charges the battery to 14.3V.

Reactive power is 1163W here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWgcRB73bw

Etc infinitely.

So  it is not only possible to amplify power in RLC tank,
but also loop it and draw excess energy from it.

Nix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: hartiberlin on May 13, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
Everybody who always claims,Overunity is not possible will be banned or moderatedIn this forum now...
So I will now moderate Wesley...and also people, who call other users liars and seem to not knowwhat the difference is between a liar and having a different opinion...

We don't have the time for this, as we are shortly standing before Worldwar 3and the corona vaxxinations are killing so many people...
Regards,  Stefan.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 13, 2023, 01:51:27 PM
Everybody who always claims,Overunity is not possible will be banned or moderatedIn this forum now...
So I will now moderate Wesley...and also people, who call other users liars and seem to not knowwhat the difference is between a liar and having a different opinion...

We don't have the time for this, as we are shortly standing before Worldwar 3and the corona vaxxinations are killing so many people...
Regards,  Stefan.
hartiberlin Re WW3 lets hope if it comes to any thing with that, we must all know about the EBONS and Roswell
any ICBM's intervention on launch sites re Mufon info lets hope ET stops the madness.

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 13, 2023, 01:55:54 PM
@don smith  aka Nix.
I lost any trust in Donald L.Smith when I saw this:
DON Smith - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7406DfmdjoE)
He was claiming neon sign transformer as OU device. :o
Comparing 220V,400mA,50Hz input to 10kV ,30mA, 20-30kHz output.
Hilarious.


PS.
He did never run device he openly presented, he only run a "suitcase device" that he never opened to the public.
If Don really had something, all his presentations were meant to disinform and put smoke and mirrors.


Cheers,
Pix



Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: apecore on May 13, 2023, 01:56:21 PM
Everybody who always claims,Overunity is not possible will be banned or moderatedIn this forum now...
So I will now moderate Wesley...and also people, who call other users liars and seem to not knowwhat the difference is between a liar and having a different opinion...

We don't have the time for this, as we are shortly standing before Worldwar 3and the corona vaxxinations are killing so many people...
Regards,  Stefan.

Stefan,
One of the best policy installed.
It will make the forum great again.

Grt,
Ape
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 13, 2023, 02:04:01 PM
@don smith  aka Nix.
I lost any trust in Donald L.Smith when I saw this:
DON Smith - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7406DfmdjoE)
He was claiming neon sign transformer as OU device. :o
Comparing 220V,400mA,50Hz input to 10kV ,30mA, 20-30kHz output.
Hilarious.


PS.
He did never run device he openly presented, he only run a "suitcase device" that he never opened to the public.
If Don really had something, all his presentations were meant to disinform and put smoke and mirrors.


Cheers,
Pix
Really have you found this ?  DonSmithIW2003
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kixoros901 on May 13, 2023, 03:56:39 PM
Owner is hallucinating again, HE is unable to discern the difference between lying and different opinion. Denier lies about everything, but let's take just this example, he claims magnet motors are impossible. Despite the playlist i shared x times already FULL of real magnet motors. There are like 40-50 real magnet-only motors here.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6CmWwu5VGl5al_O94rmKNiuSZs7Loz1

All these obviously real magnet-only motors and he still claims they are impossible.
That is not "different opinion", that is LYING.
And in video no. 4 author even goes at great length showing EXACTLY how sticky point is eliminated and second video is larger demonstration of the same principle...

"Different opinion" HA! Or rather PHEW!

@don smith  aka Nix.
I lost any trust in Donald L.Smith when I saw this:
DON Smith - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7406DfmdjoE)
He was claiming neon sign transformer as OU device. :o
Comparing 220V,400mA,50Hz input to 10kV ,30mA, 20-30kHz output.
Hilarious.

PS.
He did never run device he openly presented, he only run a "suitcase device" that he never opened to the public.
If Don really had something, all his presentations were meant to disinform and put smoke and mirrors.

Cheers,
Pix

No need to dismiss him. Look at this

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=0sj4lp4mbet1k6phrcje0hloo0&topic=25.msg7511#msg7511

"Just got off the phone with a Ventex Engineer, the power supplies are constant current constant voltage 35 khz symetrical waveform to each anode. So if a NST specification says it will supply 2500v at .028 mA in order to drive 30" of tube once the tube is lit it will sustain the 2500v at .028mA at 35khz to keep the tube lit.

From the Ventex engineers we have OU and wikipedia states the same requirements for the lighting function."

As for demonstrations i agree they were not the most transparent since device was in a briefcase and did not run for a long time, it is widely known Don was secretive and at one point he did say something like that he does not reveal everything and more often than not his statements were on verge of being laughable, as if he intentionally blurred the issue. He kept saying how simple it is and pretended to be surprised almost no one could replicate it, BUT HE KNEW WELL WHY, and that he did not tell the full truth. But nonetheless, that is not the reason to dismiss him, do you really think those photos of his device installed in japanese vendor machines are photoshop, really. He is not fake, he has given directions, but he surely did not reveal everything.

And the Ventex quote is very curious. Someone should get one of their NSTs and measure input/output precisely.

Cheers,
Nix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 13, 2023, 05:11:10 PM
Ventex and any other electronic NST are NOT OU device.
VT12030CL-120 - Ventex Technology (https://www.ventextech.com/products/vt12030cl-120/)

Input: 120V, 1.25A, power factor 0.98. Power in 147W
Output: 12000V,  30mA, 25kHZ. Power factor is 0.2- 0.4 in such frequencies. Power out at best 144W.
As per Don Smith own words, he did never opened "suitcase device" to show what's inside, brcause he would not put into jeopardy his "multi billion $" agreements with big companies.
So, would he be so naive to snow openly his device and principle of operation?
To violate alleged agreements and loose $$$? ::)
I don't think so.
I did watch all his presentations and interwiews.
Smoke and mirrors.


Cheers,
Pix

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 13, 2023, 05:13:28 PM
Stefan,
One of the best policy installed.
It will make the forum great again.

Grt,
Ape


Buy air conditioner, COP>=3.
And this site can be closed  :D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kixoros901 on May 13, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
I will give you that i did not take into account that power factor in the output is 0.2-0.4. so that pretty much dismisses the NST story.

As for Don, i also did watch all his presentations and interviews and i think his demonstration is legit altho not most transparent, i don't think he is fake, he just did not reveal all the details.

BTW Don Smith reported on a Yahoo group in 2006 that using 3 resonant Tesla pancakes
with 14 watt input he literally melted the diode bridge rated at 20,000V and 200A.

That's more than 4 Megawatts.

Nix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 13, 2023, 10:48:13 PM
lancaIV,
Are you ADHD? ::)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 14, 2023, 01:54:25 AM
Ventex and any other electronic NST are NOT OU device.
VT12030CL-120 - Ventex Technology (https://www.ventextech.com/products/vt12030cl-120/)

Input: 120V, 1.25A, power factor 0.98. Power in 147W
Output: 12000V,  30mA, 25kHZ. Power factor is 0.2- 0.4 in such frequencies. Power out at best 144W.
As per Don Smith own words, he did never opened "suitcase device" to show what's inside, brcause he would not put into jeopardy his "multi billion $" agreements with big companies.
So, would he be so naive to snow openly his device and principle of operation?
To violate alleged agreements and loose $$$? ::)
I don't think so.
I did watch all his presentations and interwiews.
Smoke and mirrors.


Cheers,
Pix
Can you show us the power factor data at the output?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 14, 2023, 10:47:57 AM
Can you show us the power factor data at the output?
Please read:
Neon Sign Transformer (NST) Characteristics - Fusor Forums (https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=4315)
0.2-0.4 applies to transformer type NST  working at 50-60Hz
Unit Don Smith presented is an electronic NST,  it is an oscillator with frequency 20-30kHz. Typically mosfets driving a step up converter or flyback type transformer. I haven't seen any flyback with COP>1.
Just buy any electronic NST for less than 50$ and try get OU  ::)


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 14, 2023, 11:55:28 AM
https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=4315 (https://fusor.net/board/viewtopic.php?t=4315)
The NST transformer is not the OU source ! It is,atomic plant same ,the MODERATOR !

In combination : the NST-trafo WITH Compact Fluorescent Lamp the user reaches COLD Glow Plasma Fusion state with OU effect !
Now it is the work next step to transmute radiation energy to electric energy to explore the loop by partial feedback circuit/cycle continuous process !


wmbr
OCWL
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        Algometric Thinker uses ,beside TRIZ,
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       Algometrical Intelligence does not hurt ! Is not an illness
       https://www.amazon.com/Super-brain-revolution-genius-inventor-Kazumi/dp/4871907287 (https://www.amazon.com/Super-brain-revolution-genius-inventor-Kazumi/dp/4871907287)
       https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Kazumi+Masaki (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Kazumi+Masaki)

      https://www.google.com/search?q=Kazumi+Masaki+theta+waves&client=firefox-b-d&ei=WbJgZLjXOfGN9u8PiPq4gAc&ved=0ahUKEwj457PLx_T-AhXxhv0HHQg9DnAQ4dUDCA4&oq=Kazumi+Masaki+theta+waves&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQDDIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEB4QsAM6BggAEBYQHkoECEEYAVDrCViZLmCZPWgBcAB4AIABigGIAfUKkgEEMC4xMpgBAKABAcgBAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp (https://www.google.com/search?q=Kazumi+Masaki+theta+waves&client=firefox-b-d&ei=WbJgZLjXOfGN9u8PiPq4gAc&ved=0ahUKEwj457PLx_T-AhXxhv0HHQg9DnAQ4dUDCA4&oq=Kazumi+Masaki+theta+waves&gs_lcp=Cgxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAQDDIFCCEQoAE6BwgAEB4QsAM6BggAEBYQHkoECEEYAVDrCViZLmCZPWgBcAB4AIABigGIAfUKkgEEMC4xMpgBAKABAcgBAcABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp)
                                                           An other mental dimension,inclusion "Tele-....." ,Path ,Kinetics,.....

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybernetik (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybernetik)  Wiener and Wiens "displacement current law"
inventive user : Dr.Raul-Florian Popescu-Goetsch
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=florian+popescu&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=florian+popescu&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search)

                 hyperphysics is : endless hyperspace and hypertime and the search FOR: problems ,of others !?  ;)


  pix, https://exceptionalindividuals.com/about-us/blog/did-einstein-have-dyslexia-dyspraxia-autism-and-adhd/ (https://exceptionalindividuals.com/about-us/blog/did-einstein-have-dyslexia-dyspraxia-autism-and-adhd/)  ::)
                                https://exceptionalindividuals.com/neurodiversity/ (https://exceptionalindividuals.com/neurodiversity/)
                     https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=neurotypical (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=neurotypical)
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      expression,physical phenomen,multiple choice denomination possibility,by primates=outsider

spatiare,ambulare,going in,but also out,the meta-physical tabernaculum Deii cum hominibus  AAAAAAAAmen 8) oO                                                                                                                                  Bei Ein-,ab und zu Zwie-tracht  ;D ,nach einigen "Cheers" in der Tab(v?)erna

       tabernaculum Deii cum hominibus also called : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemplation

       O-remus = working out ,nicht reden,MACHEN ! ZEIGBAR ! (ora et)labora ! Ex,oder Nix !
       Bloedkoeppe ! Langweiler,obwohl Kurzweil gefordert !

   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Constraints (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Constraints) 
   
Denkwerkzeuge (englisch "Thinking Processes")
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Reality_Tree (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Reality_Tree)                               

                                              Future Reality Tree                                           

                                              PreRequisite Tree                                             

                                             Transition Tree                         

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Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 14, 2023, 01:54:11 PM
@lancaIV
 :o
Please take your medicine and calm down..
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 14, 2023, 04:51:06 PM
pix,I am calm : corporal !
Mental people never know about Our "thinking of/about velocity and its filters " !
I do not know about Your in-and e-ducational skills,later professional/confessional experiences !

scire ,to know,zu wissen
Science

Example :
NST-transformer and (C)FL
in combination with

http://www.rexresearch.com/yater/yater.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/yater/yater.htm)
Rebuttal to "Comments on `Power Conversion of Energy Fluctuations' "
Joseph C. Yater
 
The conclusion predicting no practical power output from the power conversion of energy fluctuations is shown to be the result of fundamental errors in physics and in the theory of the master equation. One decisive error was to compute the output voltage by assuming that no energy for the electron barrier crossings of the cold diodes is supplied by the fluctuation energy of the heated diode. Another fundamental error in the physics was to assume that the total available fluctuation power is small, whereas it is orders of magnitude larger than the radiated power alone. Computations using the master equation corrected for errors in physics give a maximum output power that is within (91-99)% of the Carnot-cycle efficiency for this reversible cycle. Physically realizable diode design options are noted (thin film, quantum effect, thermionic) that can enable the high power output and high-efficiency potential of this approach to be achieved with small material cost  ...."

  Ever heared,thought ,related about : Compton effect ?
                                                             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_energy)
Do We need beside visual/opto  3/4d detection tools and simulation  audial/noise 3/4d detection tools,acoustics ? Yes !

audio-video  .next : audio-video-sentio ?! 3-channel
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here :
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wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: I take as medicine -narkoticum style : e-pipe liquid
        But I had a time before e-smoke technolgy,I did -it did -not change Me and My Self-Being !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 15, 2023, 11:18:14 AM
Do you want to help oil business?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 15, 2023, 12:51:01 PM
Earth-ship cosmander Picard question ?
Plastified :

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Denker (https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Denker)

Irony-button on
Without being paid by comercial companies,a calculation :
shale gas price( from oil- to fossil energy sources provider in total ) eas,before Ucraine/Russia -' unimosity' ::)
in USS 1¢ /KWh + fossil to electricity conversion,generator genset, : ≤ 5¢/KWh electric =
common USA average b2b market delivery

But the private households are the great margin/profit source !
In USA,elsewhere ! Not to write about ecologic issues like  reparation costs in future  health damage et cet .!

The voter decided the post-WW2 politics " demo(n)cratic ",now he/she/it stays in repay-time !Their Generation Next reparation participation Will ? 100%- 0% !?
    Not/guilty !? Both sides !?

Little lecture,liberalist :
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=kenneth+galbraight+&oq=kenneth+galbraight+&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=kenneth+galbraight+&oq=kenneth+galbraight+&aqs=heirloom-srp)..
Escape,but back,to the roots re-/search :
Visionaers,futurologists,minder like
C.F.v.Weizsaecker,Amory Lovins ,Toffler and

https://www.google.com/search?q=Fsith+Popcorn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=Fsith+Popcorn&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)

It is justified,it is fair ,:
Constitutional ?
By market power,over-constitutional ?
Parliamentary groups,over-constitutional ?

We like sleeping ,well paid,well participating,monarches,presidents,political -responsible - leaders,is it not ?
Democratic legitimated Freibeutertum/Piratery !

Ucraine,tuetue-wear presidency,Trojan Horse,usefull for whom ?
The old establishment,the New- old real Constitution- Order Society ?

Irony-button off


wmbr
OCWL

Kontemplatish ist jede Frage ein Eintreten ins
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xBW1LdDzjWk ob dabei die vorfindbare,vorlaeufige,Antwort gefaellt ist .... !?
Best case    Good Middle Bad          Worriest case
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 15, 2023, 03:22:02 PM
Flyback is not OU.
Then every transformer with a diode on the secondary would be OU device. :o

It doesn't matter that you need a very small current to fully magnetise  core. You do forget about opposite- you need the same small opposite current to cancel that magnetic flux once you connect load to secondary.
One thing you are omitting- magnetic energy is stored not in the ferromagnetic core, but in the air gap, localised or dispersed.
And once you introduce an air gap, your magnetising current is larger. And the same for opposite action.
Sorry, no OU there.
The only possibility to get COP >1 out of the flyback is when introducing air gap into the magnetic path and magnetising by use of permanent magnet. By switching alternative magnetic paths.
MEG would be a good candidate, I wrote about this few times already.
Place air gaps before switching coils and larger ones at the output coils, add diodes to make MEG a PM magnetised flyback.


Cheers,
pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 15, 2023, 03:39:12 PM
I will give you that i did not take into account that power factor in the output is 0.2-0.4. so that pretty much dismisses the NST story.

As for Don, i also did watch all his presentations and interviews and i think his demonstration is legit altho not most transparent, i don't think he is fake, he just did not reveal all the details.

BTW Don Smith reported on a Yahoo group in 2006 that using 3 resonant Tesla pancakes
with 14 watt input he literally melted the diode bridge rated at 20,000V and 200A.

That's more than 4 Megawatts.

Nix


 :o
4 Megawatts  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 15, 2023, 03:56:09 PM
To the given points technical publications "patent-application,non/"Patent" granted"

NST may or may not be OU but every flyback should be overunity for reason i shared before, magnetizing current which uses 1-5% of full load power creates full load potential energy flux in the core.

Power in a tranformer is proportional to flux times frequency (just like in the motor it is torque times velocity, same thing), which is why higher permeability corres can be smaller size, which is why airplane transformers use 400Hz also for smaller size.

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=2&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910718&CC=DE&NR=4000592A1&KC=A1#

Flux is max in no load state - this is conventional wisdom.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=16&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860717&CC=DE&NR=3501076A1&KC=A1#

Transformer as a Constant Flux Device ( Transformer on LOAD )

https://www.myelectrical2015.com/2017/10/transformer-on-load.html (https://www.myelectrical2015.com/2017/10/transformer-on-load.html)

Transformer operation has been known for a long time, i already summarized it like this

And these

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/71110/why-is-maximum-flux-attained-in-transformer-when-off-load (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/71110/why-is-maximum-flux-attained-in-transformer-when-off-load)
https://www.quora.com/Why-in-transformer-flux-remains-constant-no-load-to-full-load#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20a%20simple,the%20ferromagnetic%20material%20%2C%20the%20core%20 (https://www.quora.com/Why-in-transformer-flux-remains-constant-no-load-to-full-load#:~:text=If%20you%20want%20a%20simple,the%20ferromagnetic%20material%20%2C%20the%20core%20)
https://www.quora.com/Why-transformer-is-called-constant-flux-machine (https://www.quora.com/Why-transformer-is-called-constant-flux-machine)
https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/71110/why-is-maximum-flux-attained-in-transformer-when-off-load (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/71110/why-is-maximum-flux-attained-in-transformer-when-off-load)

Etc. So, it is firmly established flux in the core is maximum with no load. The fact that full load voltage appears on the secondary is enough proof that there is a full load flux in the core. If anyone still doubts that, the best method i envison is to get a transformer with an airgap and while plugged in unloaded put the AC gauss meter probe into the gap and you will see there is a maximum flux in there.

BTW loaded transformer does not hum louder cause flux in the core is larger but due to electromechanical vibration of windings due to leakage flux.

https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/sources-of-sound-in-transformers (https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/sources-of-sound-in-transformers)

It is a well known fact that power in a transformer is proportional to flux time frequency according to a known formula for voltage across transformer primary or secondary is

E = 4.44 * number of turns * frequency * flux in the core
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19761217&CC=FR&NR=2312135A1&KC=A1#
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=17&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A#
Is Heinrich Kunel f.e. 10 Ampere-coils energy converter the nominal Ampere output dividing /10 or x10 amplifying ?

But for flux in the core to appear there first has to be current through the coil

This flux is proportional to input voltage and inversely proportional to frequency

E/f

It should be clear to everyone that full load flux at operating frequency means full potential energy. So even without exotic cold electricity, strictly by convention flyback should be OU, there is absolutely no explanation how it cannot be, full load flux (and thus full load energy) is created with 5% of full load power or less.

Not to mention the modern core materials with permeability up to a million which means that magnetizing current is even smaller. That literally means miliamps can create flux that it would takes amps to generate with low perm cores, all 100% for free.

So high perm cores in flyback mode should especially be big OU. My suggestion to anyone who has a high perm core, try running it in flyback mode, use proper voltage and number of turns on the primary and frequency so that max flux is established but of course not saturation.

When that large flux which is created basically for free collapses it has no choice but to generate much larger power in the secondary.

Why is this effect not better known is strange, but there are many flyback/backemf OU reports already. I guess those who fail use too low perm core and not right number of primary turns and frequency.

Of course running a silicon steel core with pulsed DC is not advisable, it will saturate and short immediately (i tried). So it should be done with large ferrites or far better with exotic modern cores.

And another interesting thing, it is widely known that in any RLC tank current always first flows into the cap which seems like a short at first while inductor is like hitting a wall, but in Tesla pancake bifilar inductor IS a cap, wrap your mind around THAT.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Adam+lorek&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220721&CC=FR&NR=540979A&KC=A#

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 15, 2023, 03:59:39 PM
Flyback is not OU.
Then every transformer with a diode on the secondary would be OU device. :o

It doesn't matter that you need a very small current to fully magnetise  core. You do forget about opposite- you need the same small opposite current to cancel that magnetic flux once you connect load to secondary.
One thing you are omitting- magnetic energy is stored not in the ferromagnetic core, but in the air gap, localised or dispersed.
And once you introduce an air gap, your magnetising current is larger. And the same for opposite action.
Sorry, no OU there.
The only possibility to get COP >1 out of the flyback is when introducing air gap into the magnetic path and magnetising by use of permanent magnet. By switching alternative magnetic paths.
MEG would be a good candidate, I wrote about this few times already.
Place air gaps before switching coils and larger ones at the output coils, add diodes to make MEG a PM magnetised flyback.


 RLC tank circuit,parametric or resonant circuit ,rotative :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19210709&CC=FR&NR=521330A&KC=A#

Cheers,
pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 15, 2023, 03:59:51 PM
Have you checked something yourself? On YouTube, they saw how it spins, but did not notice the thin wires from the outlet?
Do you have measuring instruments besides eyes, fingers and screwdrivers? Is there sufficient education to make accurate electronic measurements?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 15, 2023, 04:23:20 PM
Getting the surplus power/energy/work/force output/input performance con-/inverter,will the ownership help You to react against 1000 metres hight Hyper-Tsunamis,when Antarctica and Arctic many kilometres thick ice-shields went the mountains down ?
States their economy,social and finance system :

Northeurope,Middleeurope: tilt
Canada,USA : tilt
Russia : tilt

Low hight earth ground countries with coastal lines

Mountains,loosing their formation when the ice,glueing the stony material,melts through higher permanent average ambient temperature !
Eathquakes because the lost of the heavy weight from the ice,pressing the land below down,let expand  the ' 'hidden' real earth shield surface areal !Tension on the shelf frontiers,tension-release,quakes !


......Ene,meme,muh und raus : biste !


Wellcome DEVOLUTION !

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OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 15, 2023, 04:43:25 PM
@nix
Transformers do not store magnetic energy in the core. They are not tesigned to operate by "storing" magnetic energy, but to transform energy from primary to secondary by action of magnetic fluxes.
Flybacks and other converters work by "storing" energy in magnetic field. But in this case what you put "IN" you will get "OUT" minus losses.


Quote: "Adding a airgap + a magnet is not the only way to get OU out of a flyback. If that was so only transformers with airgaps would be reported as flyback/backEMF OU but that is no the case."[/size]


You forgot about a diode. It is a combination of three: switching PM flux + air gaps+ diode.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 15, 2023, 05:08:52 PM
@nix
Good luck then. You found OU in flyback and transformers. ;)
Now implement your ideas, get rich and this site could be closed .


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 15, 2023, 05:54:14 PM
Have you checked something yourself? On YouTube, they saw how it spins, but did not notice the thin wires from the outlet?
Do you have measuring instruments besides eyes, fingers and screwdrivers? Is there sufficient education to make accurate electronic measurements?
Ну вот... Убрали Веслика и началось... Зря убрали. ;D
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: floodrod on May 15, 2023, 05:59:14 PM
I am probably crazier than Nix.  I believe Tom Bearden is essentially correct.

I think all induction is OU in it's raw form..   We input power and get rewarded with a magnetic field. Then when we induct, we get rewarded again with a 2nd magnetic field that is equally as strong as the first (minus inefficiencies)..  **lorentz reciprocity principle***..   Every ounce that we induct, gets induced again into the primary..

The stumbling block is the current direction which the induction occurs.  In a transformer, lorentz reciprocity induction sends the excess produced energy straight to the negative side of the source.

This is why I am so fascinated currently with the idea of capitalizing on the positive biased sinewave, especially the emptying (depleting) part of it.  I think lorentz reciprocity principle can be reversed with the right setup.

BUT I admit- I have no proof, so I will not argue that it is correct UNLESS I can prove it.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nix85 on May 15, 2023, 06:02:59 PM
One good point Thane Heins makes is that lenz is basically nature doubling the input energy for free. It is just about finding a way that freely given energy does not oppose/cancel the energy that induces it.

I remember a claim that Ford's first automobiles were electric and that one of his engines when spun above 3000 rpm became self sustaining. Possible example of delayed lenz.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 16, 2023, 08:21:09 AM
One good point Thane Heins makes is that lenz is basically nature doubling the input energy for free. It is just about finding a way that freely given energy does not oppose/cancel the energy that induces it.


Everyone is fighting Lenz.
I offered a few months ago don't fight with Lenz. But leave it alone, and neutralized just the direct EMF. And let only Lenz remain.  ;) :)
The problem is that I don't know how to do it.
But the approach is not trivial.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 16, 2023, 09:54:13 AM
Here is revenge to Wesley. Looks extremely ugly.
“When the cat’s away, the mice will play”.
Dear Sirs! It would be better to write about wonderful flyback transformers and other unique stream of thoughts in some relevant topics.
What’s so great about this place?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: seychelles on May 16, 2023, 11:17:57 AM
HI ALL SORRY I AM THE BLACK CAT IN THE MATRIX. I RECEIVE SOME REVELATION FROM THE ALL MIGHTY AND LOVING. AND IT CAME OUT LOUD AND IT HAS TO BE REVEALED. THE KAPA CIRCUIT , THE PRIMARY WINDING IS MADE OF A COPPER TUBE AND IN THIS TUBE IS A CONDUCTIVE GAS LIKE NEON ARGON OR MIXTURE OF GASES, AND THE GAS IS SEAL WITHIN. REASON BEING OF SKIN EFFECT AND RESONANCE AND SUPER CONDUCTIVITY.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 16, 2023, 12:06:52 PM
One good point Thane Heins makes is that lenz is basically nature doubling the input energy for free. It is just about finding a way that freely given energy does not oppose/cancel the energy that induces it.

I remember a claim that Ford's first automobiles were electric and that one of his engines when spun above 3000 rpm became self sustaining. Possible example of delayed lenz.
Note they wernt lead acid, but deap cycle salt.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: kolbacict on May 16, 2023, 04:59:16 PM

It is not clear what you mean by neutralize just the direct EMF and let lenz remain. It sounds like word salad. ;) :)


They are equal in magnitude to EMF and Lenz, but opposite in direction.  Like Newton's third law.
What difference does it make what to use, the first or the second. Still, I don't know how to do it.
It may sound stupid, but I came up with it myself. At least I haven’t seen it anywhere. :)

but deap cycle salt.
Although I am chemical in my studying,but I don't know what is it. :o
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 16, 2023, 10:02:00 PM
FE versus FAE
2023 the expressions and study from anti-matter snd reziproke anti-energy common learning stuff !
https://www.google.com/search?q=electron+proton&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=electron+proton&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
https://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch6/atom_emrframe.html (https://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch6/atom_emrframe.html)
And about atoms their nucleus/core,core-free ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19980305&CC=DE&NR=19637710A1&KC=A1#)
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=4&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931118&CC=DE&NR=4215818A1&KC=A1#)

Anti-/energy designing(developping) to anti-/matter designing (envelopping)  !


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OCWL

p.s.: the physical weight and/or specific weight change from 1 KWh capacity capacitor and/or

        1 KWh capacity cell-battery, uncharged versus charged ?
https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+misconception+of+electricity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+misconception+of+electricity&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
         Anti-/Energy = oscillating Anti-/Mass up to light velocity condtion
       anti- ~ counter : ccw to cw like Lenz to Fleming rules
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 17, 2023, 10:09:38 AM
@Sergh I asked you yesterday to downsize your images for noted reason, gigantic images make forum near impossible to read,
The picture is not gigantic. It looks too small on my UHD 2K 22' monitor.
The size of the picture corresponds to the emotional message.

you did not do so. If you can't respect such basic rules as not posting gigantic images so forum remains usable you don't get to ask "What’s so great about this place?". And no one is 'revenging' on stivep, i don't know where you got that silly idea, or that he is a cat and rest of us are mice, just as silly.
You and support group create many messages that have nothing to do with the topic of overunity and free energy. Why are you doing it?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 17, 2023, 12:46:40 PM
It is not gigantic on your screen cause you torture yourself with tiny font."
Not tiny, regular font, scale 100%. This Screenshot is scaled down.
Besides, this is something that users here have been asked to obey many times,
1. Not many times. 2. These were another times, when the pictures were really gigantic.

widen your horizons, especially on the topic of mechanics of time-space and Universal Currents
But where in this thread was this information, about "mechanics of time-space and Universal Currents"?And If you write about something like this, it would be nice to provide a link to solid scientific source.
Why are you not interested in studying and discussing quantum physics? Many scientists have been working in this field for a hundred years.
It would be interesting for me to take part in such a discussion if it were constructive and related to possible implementations of overunity devices. But not here, in another, your topic.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 17, 2023, 04:18:15 PM
125 The principle of Roman’s Kornouhov Tariel’s Kapanadze systems is now available to everyone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnpkcTJWzZ0

'Dmitrii Maksimov' - uploaded more new videos today on his channel - https://www.youtube.com/@radiantimpuls/videos
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 17, 2023, 05:02:26 PM
Relativity of the future will be Relativity given to us by people of planet Iarga. I understand it is impossible for you (and most people here) to even consider, let alone accept that we are being visited by ETs and that they shared their physics with us, but it simply is so and you will be forced to accept it in due time. I have recognized the immense value of this info since many years and have studied the model in depth and have shared it on my blog.

https://vril12.wordpress.com/6-axis-of-time/

In short time-space itself is created by two sets of vibrations offset by 180° so canceling each other along 6 axis of higher dimensional tetrahedron of time, true Relativity is that from perspective of one time axis it appears as if nearby time axis is oscillating at 1/2 its own frequency altho their frequencies are exactly the same. This is the future of Physics, the future of Relativity and quantum physics and Science. You will not hear about 6 axis of time from Einstein or any string theory, you will not hear that it is time that creates space, so it is time-space, not space-time and infinitely more.

Another key thing that mainstream has no idea about is the universal condensing factor 49 i also spoke about already. In short 49 bubbles of ether of highest order join to form 1 particle of next lower plane and so on. This is why density of matter, speed of light and rate of time flow all increase x49 each level/octave higher one goes. It is not an accident that 49 is encoded all over bible.

I have also spoken about fundamental 'atoms' let's call them sub-quarks, called Anu in Theosophy, these are the smallest units of matter and energy of every plane and they are male and female, and have a pulsation like a heart. They are identical in every respect except for the direction of the spin, male Anu channel the substance from higher dimensions to the lower one, and female Anu returns it and closes the circuit.

You can publish this in the yellow press and earn money.
Only this is real benefit.
Oscillation frequencies - study Planck's constants and what is the maximum frequency that can be in our world. Try to imagine this frequency. What type of radiation is it?You will never reach these frequencies by playing musical instruments or electrical discharges on the coil in any way.
In general, the quantum reality of our world can be much more amazing than what you write about. Think about the nature of time, the transition of the universe from the future through an infinitesimal moment of the present into the past. And why do we need a primitive ether when there is something more?
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 17, 2023, 05:54:03 PM
nix85
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They all noticed that the interior of the cabin was "toasty warm", as if heated by a strong fire. Moved to locate the source of this heat, town officials found " two highly polished metal mirrors which faced each other, radiating a very great heat in rippling waves" This is a great discovery. It fulfills what Nathan reported in his last testimony.

Back then it was probably a mystery but today we should recognize them as Casimir plates. As well one has to wonder what kind of wavelengths were being radiated. If it was within the microwave spectrum this could explain his health going south.

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 17, 2023, 08:07:13 PM
nix85
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Casimir plates don't radiate anything, they produce a tiny barely observable mechanical pressure force. So, no, at least not in conventional way. People always try to downplay exotic effects to some known effect, that is not a way to progress.

Exotic is relative and in the eye of the beholder.

The Casimir effect of confining a given EM wavelength in between the plates could cause plates tuned near that frequency to oscillate in themselves. Just as a guitar string begins to oscillate at it's resonant frequencies. I'm not saying this is what was happening only that every effect must first have a cause. Even more interesting is that if the plates were tuned to or near the gap frequency and did oscillate it could have a modulation and/or pumping effect. Now were talking about parametric effects which could maintain the oscillations. Why make it difficult when it seems easy enough to understand?.

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I will add tho, in his lecture Stan Deyo claimed someone did get overunity using Casimir plates by applying high voltage to them.
As for was it healthy, God knows was it microwaves or not, i would guess it was a different kind of radiation.

If the device was in fact radiating "heat" then we know which part of the EM spectrum this should occur. We find the microwave band falls right next to the infrared band, both known to cause external heating effects. Coincidentally, the transition from microwaves to infrared occurs near the the 1mm wavelength. 1mm tolerances are well within our capabilities so again this doesn't seem that difficult to understand. I see very little I would consider exotic and it seems pretty straight forward. I mean, this is a walk in the park compared to most FE devices...

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 18, 2023, 12:47:06 AM
nix85
Well done and you have presented so many fallacies I'm not even sure where to begin to respond. However I suspect that was the whole point wasn't it?. In any case that was quite the diatribe and it was entertaining... carry on.

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Dog-One on May 18, 2023, 03:33:19 AM
   worldcup:   Thanks for the video link above.  I watched it, but am not convinced of anything at all.   First thing is for it to SELF RUN, and not depend on the input from two external power sources.   And I see no OU there, neither. Plus his scope shots look messy and are unlike the ones from Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, etc, nor any other inventor of self runners. Nor is he showing more out, than in...
   So, until he shows it self running, his "effect generation" is insignificant and is not OU, in my opinion, which proves nothing.

And the main thing he does not speak of is electrostatic induction.
I have become convinced as of late, this is something that must be
considered with any of these devices.  I can assure you that you
can get current without any noticeable magnetic field in the
vicinity of your coils.  Your coils may not even be acting like
inductive devices at all--more like series connected capacitor plates.
Once you see that on the bench, it will change your thinking.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 18, 2023, 12:24:45 PM
exotic non-herzian effects.

Hutchison

Wow, Hutchison. Super!
But why does he wear a hat indoors and why does he build boxes of thick plywood for his experiments.
And what he could borrow from old military submarine for this.

Underwater sonar, or "The Last Thing You Hear":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj-Wn-di-zM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj-Wn-di-zM)

Ultrasonic levitation with very low power:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHgVVT8xLQI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHgVVT8xLQI)

Can Ultrasonic Waves Dissolve Metal?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmoPc7l9qg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRmoPc7l9qg)

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Multiple devices at work at once, Naval SONAR, RADAR, High power microwave, Audible Sound / Audio, ultrasound, and Radio broadcast in the FM/AM band:
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27rmc1 (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27rmc1)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 18, 2023, 01:36:53 PM
 
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But why does he wear a hat indoors 
...... eversince he's a crossdresser  ;D

In past he had many YT channels, all brought down!

His YT channel as of today - https://www.youtube.com/@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519/videos

something you might like -

free energy power cell i used to make for clients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFHNyDC-qA

Free. Energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwVqWS8nRM

Free energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoxBz0s1H0

and this guy INVENTOR3 and john k hutchison are good friends  ;D https://www.youtube.com/@INVENTOR3/videos

and lot's more...cat's whiskers...nanocoated wafers....resonance ...
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 18, 2023, 02:19:42 PM
...... eversince he's a crossdresser  ;D

In past he had many YT channels, all brought down!

His YT channel as of today - https://www.youtube.com/@klingonbaronessprincesskar5519/videos

something you might like -

free energy power cell i used to make for clients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqFHNyDC-qA

Free. Energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECwVqWS8nRM

Free energy unit japan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMoxBz0s1H0

and this guy INVENTOR3 and john k hutchison are good friends  ;D https://www.youtube.com/@INVENTOR3/videos

and lot's more...cat's whiskers...nanocoated wafers....resonance ...
far too much information !
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 18, 2023, 06:33:37 PM
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Later Investigators entered his land area and found heavy wires leading from the roots of trees. To these wires were attaches small arc lamps, hung in the trees. These were extinguished. They imagined this to be the explanation of his hillside sunlight. Their hasty analysis proved problematic from stories which witnesses report.  The warm and diffused sunlight which came from the ground itself around his house was not localized in specific lamps.The light came from the ground, not from the trees as before... a" whole hillside that would blossom with light"... "lit up like daytime". These observations indicate that Stubblefield had managed indeed the direct conversion of earth energy to light and warmth. This would acceptable, were Mr. Stubblefield simply working on a newer form of drawing electricity from the ground to light small arc-lamps; a feat which he had accomplished earlier. But  these kind persons could never find any evidence of arc-lighting or any other form of known lighting anywhere near the area. In their own words "the light seemed to come out from the ground itself".

This relates to Tesla and the effect is not difficult to replicate.

Look at the picture below of a power line above the ground lighting some florescent bulbs. If the power line was on the ground the bulbs would also light up and there would be no way to tell the difference just by looking at them. The bulbs light because there is a difference in potential between the ground and the atmosphere above it.

In effect this is exactly what Stubblefield and Tesla did electrifying the ground plane. So how did they do it?, we can easily replicate the effect by using a very HV Tesla coil with a spark gap and HV rectifier on the bottom near the ground.

The Tesla coil builds up to a very high voltage and discharges a large DC single impulse through the rectifier, across the spark gap into the ground plane. Since we have a rectifier at the bottom the HV impulse cannot return to the Tesla coil or alternate and it is forced to pull in new charges from the top load like a charge pump. Were pumping large HV impulses onto the ground surface. Now suppose our impulsive discharge onto the ground was of a negative polarity. Since the negative charges are alike they must repel and our large impulse spreads outward across the ground electrifying the area.

So why doesn't the negative (-) charges just conduct into the ground?. Some do however charges always move to the surface and towards the nearest opposite (+) charges. The nearest opposite (+) charges are in the (+) charged atmosphere which is why the (-) charges stay near the ground surface. Here is the trick, the HV impulse must be very large and of very short duration. The surface charge density must build up faster than it can conduct away resulting in a high charge density/energy on the ground surface.

At lower light levels we can see large blue colored corona discharges from the grass tips, shrubs, trees or any pointy material which conducts electricity. In fact, it's easy to draw arcs from the ground to any conductive objects and there is no reason we couldn't light an arc lamp a distance away.

Note the next picture below of corona discharges from plants near a thunderstorm. This is much less than 10kV/inch which some large thunderstorms can produce. In the right context this could light up a whole hillside in the evening or at night. As a kid I used to pull 1" bright blue streamers to a metal rod from my dads TV tower when a thunderstorm was still miles away. Obviously, we should never do this during a thunderstorm.

So I understand much of this stuff seems difficult or exotic but it isn't. Everything has a logical and reasonable explanation if were willing to look for it. I just explained how to replicate this effect and anyone can do it... so do it.

AC

Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: onepower on May 18, 2023, 11:45:50 PM
Nix85
As an Engineer who has actually witnessed working FE device(s) and was called upon to verify many FE inventor/phenomena I see it differently.

For example,
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Later Investigators entered his land area and found heavy wires leading from the roots of trees. To these wires were attaches small arc lamps, hung in the trees. These were extinguished. They imagined this to be the explanation of his hillside sunlight.

Most of these supposed investigators in the past were reporters having no understanding of electrical phenomena. The same reporters who wrote sensationalized articles to sell more newspapers, ergo vested interest/zero credibility. The wires to the tree roots makes sense to me as tree's are mostly water which is a better conductor than dry wood fiber or earth. In effect it's like connecting a wire to the base of an antenna. However what the reporters imagined or not 100 years ago is a mute point because they didn't understand much of anything that matters like we do.

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Their hasty analysis proved problematic from stories which witnesses report.  The warm and diffused sunlight which came from the ground itself around his house was not localized in specific lamps.The light came from the ground, not from the trees as before... a" whole hillside that would blossom with light"... "lit up like daytime".

What light, how much, not from the trees but a whole hillside?. Lit up like daytime, in the daytime, lol?... it smells like bullshit I have heard countless times and it doesn't add up. It's more likely the reporters 100 years ago were seeing corona effects in the evening or night they didn't understand and sensationalized it to sell more newspapers. My favorite is the "atmospheric energy" thing most reporters claim which the actual inventor never claimed was the source of energy. Here's a clue, most reporters are paid near minimum wage and don't understand anything about the thing there supposed to be reporting on. There actual job is to sell media to promote the sales of advertising, ergo most are shills.

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These observations indicate that Stubblefield had managed indeed the direct conversion of earth energy to light and warmth. This would acceptable, were Mr. Stubblefield simply working on a newer form of drawing electricity from the ground to light small arc-lamps; a feat which he had accomplished earlier. But  these kind persons could never find any evidence of arc-lighting or any other form of known lighting anywhere near the area. In their own words "the light seemed to come out from the ground itself".

Personally I follow Arthur. C. Clarke's laws...
The laws are:
1)When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2)The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3)Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

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These are non-herzian effects and belong to higher orders of energy.

Here I'm not sure you understand that I'm already in agreement with you based on my last posts. Technically a HV impulse of extremely short duration is not a Hertz wave or follows the structure of a Sine wave. It's nothing like a Sine/Hertz wave and is similar to a Soliton wave having completely different properties. In this case not only is it not a Hertz wave by definition but also follows the ground plane versus the atmosphere unlike a Hertz wave. In effect, this was Nikola Tesla's main objection to the notion of Hertz waves and he claimed the "spectrum" was much larger than anyone supposed.

Here's the thing, about ten years ago I saw a UFO pull what I calculated to be 100G accelerating to beyond 60,000 mph in one half second. The person next to me saw the exact same thing as well so my theory is 99% of people don't really understand a fraction of what they claim to. Otherwise we would have a reasonable explanation for all these anomalies but we don't therefore I call bullshit.

AC
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 19, 2023, 12:38:15 AM
Here is a question for you since you posted it, lets see if you can answer it since you think you know it all.   :-X
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: AlienGrey on May 19, 2023, 09:00:09 AM
What kind of waves are illuminating the gas discharge inside the tube and how is this done.

"If you can answer it" funny.

As i wrote before and as everyone (hopefully) knows high frequency high voltage electric field is exciting the gas atoms causing them to emanate photons as electrons drop back to normal energy state.

What kind of waves, it's ultraviolet em radiation that hits the phosphorous coat and makes it emit visible light.

I am clearly describing a fluorescent lamp lighted by Tesla coil. If we talk ordinary "plugged" fluorescent lamp then obviously electrons do the work, result is the same, electrons of atoms are excited and as they fall back they emit ultraviolet.
I think you mean the unknown 'waves' have an effect on mercury vapor in the tube but since it works
on Led's then perhaps not, but doesn't that clue tell you something else other than copy and past has not ?  :D

Sil
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 19, 2023, 10:05:26 AM
What Hutchison did is really great, as you'll find out one day (he's not ake).

If only to count the Hutchison Battery, which, according to John, work on the Casimir effect, that is, on the energy of quantum fluctuations, or propagation of time in our world. But it is not exactly. Hutchison's media activity raises doubts about the seriousness of all this.

Ultrasonic levitation of water drops in the standing wave nodes is a joke, hardly worth of mention.
Powerful ultrasound or even a powerful loud sound of tens of kilowatts in a relatively small volume is the only correct explanation.
Here is not powerful but.. Tractor Beam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyyiMwRDvQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqyyiMwRDvQ)

In Art Bell interview 2003. above he reveals his first setup from '79

3 tesla coils, 7.5khz, 14mhz, 5mhz
RF generator 455khz
VDG 500kv

Oh yeah, maybe Hutchison was repeating a mantra, reciting a spell and waving a magic wand, like Harry Potter? It is necessary for a good show!
Imagine the honest sizes of Tesla coils at 7.5 kilohertz, 5 megahertz and 14 megahertz.

His wife's channel with many old videos of Hutchison effect

https://www.youtube.com/user/NancyLazaryan/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/NancyLazaryan/videos)
Nancy Lazaryan Hutchison
https://www.tiktok.com/@lovehigherdimensions/video/7218997560969694510 (https://www.tiktok.com/@lovehigherdimensions/video/7218997560969694510)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: nix85 on May 19, 2023, 10:05:50 PM
Gennady Fedorovich Ignatiev has replicated a work of Tesla, he has build a life size replica of Wardenclyffe Tower and more importantly made a device that lost 6kg using 10kw (very inefficient). It was two 4m long tesla coils at 90 degrees with 90° phase shift to create a rotating em field (vortex in the ether). He also authored the paper Ignatiev, G.F. and Leus, V.A. (1999) On a Superluminal Transmission at the Phase Velocities.

Frolov's summary

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ignatyev.htm (http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ignatyev.htm)

And Ignatyev's report (linked at the bottom of previous link)

http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ign-pap2.htm (http://alexfrolov.narod.ru/ign-pap2.htm)

Gennadyev's great lecture where he describes how rotating EM field and its poynting vector is gravity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn7qO7F8sOc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn7qO7F8sOc)

Article reproduced from

https://salik.biz/articles/51481-ponderolet-ignateva-nikomu-ne-nuzhnyi-rabotayuschii-antigravitacionnyi-dvigatel.html (https://salik.biz/articles/51481-ponderolet-ignateva-nikomu-ne-nuzhnyi-rabotayuschii-antigravitacionnyi-dvigatel.html)

Gennady Fedorovich Ignatiev, a physicist from Krasnoyarsk, who for a long time headed the design bureau of the rocket and space direction (TsKB Geofizika). Laureate, among other things, of the Lenin and State Prizes, space consultant and academician. Author of many still "secret" inventions.

At the end of the 90s, Ignatiev founded a laboratory in his native Krasnoyarsek, which deals with an interesting and well-known phenomenon - the Umov-Poynting effect. In short, the essence of it is that antigravity forces arise from the interaction of magnetic and electric fields. Professor Umov introduced the concept of energy flows of elastic bodies at the end of the 19th century, and a little later, Poynting supplemented these studies for electromagnetic interactions.

In 1996, at a conference in St. Petersburg, Ignatiev presented a report on the development of an experimental model of a new engine using "old principles", as Ignatiev himself liked to say. With a size of about four meters, the installation created a lifting force capable of lifting six kilograms of cargo. And this is when consuming 10 kW of electricity. The installation itself weighed about thirty kg, so the model could not fly. But, with an estimated size of about forty meters and a lifting force of three hundred kilograms, the installation could fly.

Of course, the main drawback of the design was immediately visible - it needs a powerful source of energy, the weight of which interferes with the main task. But Ignatiev believed that by improving his invention, he would be able to overcome this factor. Gennady Fedorovich never kept secrets from his research. In his laboratory, diagrams, drawings and explanations of the mechanism's operation were hung on the walls. He also never hid that he drew ideas from Nikola Tesla - even the coils placed at the ends of the device are Tesla coils.

Like many great minds before him, Ignatiev "paid" for his research. He was fired from the institute for unscientific activities: students, citing calculations on the work of a ponderolet, proved that the speed of light is not the limit. Since then, the scientist began to pursue failures - a daughter who died in a strange way, a son's suicide, a stroke that made him disabled, and then a second one that killed the inventor.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: lancaIV on May 21, 2023, 09:31:49 AM
#2795 :
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With this

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It is about ambient,forum-members, not to make the monitor full with probably yes,probably no,climate saving !
There is no universal solution in applied technology,appropriate apply !

Motive,non motive,high/low RPMs,high/low frequency,high/low Voltage,high/low stroke power !
Away from net-grid its limiting parameters !
Foreign-controlled to self-controle in situ flexible home plants !
We all have different positions to our ambient,one does not the change matter,other plays

https://rebellion.global/ !
Since 40 years the instructed green movement made solutions MORE EXPENDIVE,not cheaper !
 Fixing the appropriate solution ,with variance preservation,and buying : fob factory (shop) !

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X 2,the maximum service provider brute margin,Wucherpreis/extortionate price,
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we consumer are not the Estate Melk-Kuh/Milk Cow = tax slaves !

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: pix on May 21, 2023, 05:21:32 PM
This topic became contaminated by esoteric BS. :-\
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: stivep on May 22, 2023, 10:47:31 PM
It is a time to say Good by.
I do appreciate  you as the audience and your contribution during my  several years of activity in this forum .
It was a good time for me, - hundreds of hours dedicated to  community.
Kapanadze- Georgia, Lithuania Experiment, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Serbia, Costa Rica, Colorado Springs,  Viziv in Milford Texas, and  Dr Corum.
Many tests, travels, and huge investments in equipment .

I wish everybody  all the best
Thank you to Russian  Kolbacict, Sergh, r2fpl and others,
Thank you to Ukrainians.
Dziekuje Polakom
Thank you to  all  Americans, Europeans and all others.
Thank You Stefan  for your 30 years of dedication.
It is your house and you make rules, we may accept or not.

Wesley, I have removed you as the moderator, as you always claim,Overunity does not exist...//


Wesley
I'm not canceling today, my account yet, and for some time now. We'll see what comes up.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on May 23, 2023, 01:11:37 AM
Hi Wesley,
I was surprised (to say the least) to hear you have been put under moderation by Stefan just because of differing opinions.

I thank you for your contributions, comments, sharing your personal views and for your teaching efforts.

Hopefully you will not leave the forum for good and at least occasionally you will comment the different topics.

I wish you good health.

Gyula
PS if you feel like reflecting on my PM sent to you just before your moderation, please do it.  8)
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 23, 2023, 09:05:18 AM
Stefan! why did you call this forum "overunity"? Now you're saying you're blocking Wesley just because he says there's no overunity.
You know that word is generic. It doesn't matter unless it wasn't that.

Nie obrażaj się na Stefana bo chyba stracił nadzieje na sens tego forum bo nikt nic nie osiągną po za tworzeniem tysięcy postów.
Cała ta wiedza jest wspaniała ale nic z tego nie wynika na razie. Nawet ruskie na forach stoją w miejscu i przeklepują to samo od 10 lat.
Co jakiś czas pojawia się jeden co to mówi ja mam i robi durniów z innych.  Oni mają coś z "głowami".
psmożliwe że nie chodziło o to słowo. Miło że wspomniałeś o mnie. Dajesz zawsze dużo od siebie, a może i za dużo dlatego źle się stanie jak Stefan tego nie zrozumie.  To forum to my, a nie tylko on choć to on je utrzymuje więc pewnie chce pokazać, że ma kluczyki. Forum elektroda.pl tam dopiero moderatorzy to świry. Każdy to narcyz bez słowa krytyki. I tak ostatecznie wszystko sprowadzi się do 1984.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: worldcup on May 23, 2023, 09:45:39 AM
TK high quality device video - https://youtu.be/P8uVh1dMrSk?t=1030

This channel got more videos in good quality, all inventions of TK
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Sergh on May 23, 2023, 09:55:49 AM
Hello Wesley!
I appreciate your work.
Don't drop these things.

I see the current situation as a "raider takeover".

Stefan does not respond to my message with a wish to return everything as it was. Does he have control over the site?

I ask the community to support Wesley.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: gyulasun on May 23, 2023, 11:27:39 AM

Stefan does not respond to my message with a wish to return everything as it was. Does he have control over the site?


Yes, Stefan is the owner and Admin of this site.

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I ask the community to support Wesley.


I agree. 



For the new member Fabon (registered May 14, 2023) :  yes, Wesley got Moderator status from Stefan to handle and stop rude, arrogant, uncivil and injuring posts.  You have to have means to tackle such problems on an open forum.  And Wesley has contributed to a lot of useful and educating topics.  Please try to follow suit.

Gyula
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: forest on May 23, 2023, 05:52:31 PM
Good luck Wesley.




Prawda jest taka że nic z tego forum nie wynika, z czego wnioskuję że rozwiązanie jest zbyt proste a jednocześnie zbyt unikalne aby go przypadkiem odkryć. To samo dotyczy generatorów Figuera, więcej - myślę że urządzenia Kapanadze bazują na tym samym koncepcie - jakimś cudem generują olbrzymie pole magnetyczne i efekt generatora a nie transformatora - tj linie tego pola są o stałym natężeniu ale wirują w przestrzeni. Wniosek - szukamy jednego efektu i różnych metod jego wykorzystania.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: a.king21 on May 24, 2023, 01:00:51 AM
It is a time to say Good by.
I do appreciate  you as the audience and your contribution during my  several years of activity in this forum .
It was a good time for me, - hundreds of hours dedicated to  community.
Kapanadze- Georgia, Lithuania Experiment, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Serbia, Costa Rica, Colorado Springs,  Viziv in Milford Texas, and  Dr Corum.
Many tests, travels, and huge investments in equipment .

I wish everybody  all the best
Thank you to Russian  Kolbacict, Sergh, r2fpl and others,
Thank you to Ukrainians.
Dziekuje Polakom
Thank you to  all  Americans, Europeans and all others.
Thank You Stefan  for your 30 years of dedication.
It is your house and you make rules, we may accept or not.


Wesley
I'm not canceling today, my account yet, and for some time now. We'll see what comes up.

I can't see what all the fuss is about. I think this is a case of "semantic pedantic" here. Someone must be having a bad day.
If you don't agree with Wesley's comments then contradict him: -it is called a discussion.
There are many, many posters that should not be on this site. Wesley is not one of them.
Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: Willy on May 24, 2023, 03:02:03 AM
Wesley lost his moderator status here for insisting that
over unity does not exist.

Everybody who always claims,Overunity is not possible will be banned or moderatedIn this forum now...
So I will now moderate Wesley...and also people, who call other users liars and seem to not knowwhat the difference is between a liar and having a different opinion...

We don't have the time for this, as we are shortly standing before Worldwar 3and the corona vaxxinations are killing so many people...
Regards,  Stefan.

Wesley has posted here since he lost that moderator status.

It is a time to say Good by.
I do appreciate  you as the audience and your contribution during my  several years of activity in this forum .
It was a good time for me, - hundreds of hours dedicated to  community.
Kapanadze- Georgia, Lithuania Experiment, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Serbia, Costa Rica, Colorado Springs,  Viziv in Milford Texas, and  Dr Corum.
Many tests, travels, and huge investments in equipment .

I wish everybody  all the best
Thank you to Russian  Kolbacict, Sergh, r2fpl and others,
Thank you to Ukrainians.
Dziekuje Polakom
Thank you to  all  Americans, Europeans and all others.
Thank You Stefan  for your 30 years of dedication.
It is your house and you make rules, we may accept or not.


Wesley
I'm not canceling today, my account yet, and for some time now. We'll see what comes up.


Title: Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
Post by: r2fpl on May 24, 2023, 09:50:17 AM
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on May 24, 2023, 11:51:40 PM
Stefan just wants more work on the forum  :)  -20 post off please  ;D

Yes, I have deleted several postings and have set some members on moderated, so I can see, what they postbefore their postings go live to stop the flame wars....
Please come back to a real discussion.
We dont have the time anymore to further foul around.
We are just standing shortly before the 3rd World War and we still dont have a well working overunity device that
is easy to replicate...
Please ALL dont waste our time with fighting over here.
I also dont have the time to moderate it  anymore and I might just put the forum soon on Read Only mode...and have the forum only as an archive...
As I am too ill to handle all this BS anymore...I really must care now about my health and dont have the time anymore for this...
I also rather want to work on my Youtube channel to get it to 100.000 subscribers now, than to care about BSpostings over here now.

Regards, Stefan. ( Admin).
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: worldcup on May 29, 2023, 10:35:09 AM
Dmitry Maksimov, made this new YT channel since his old YT channel was/got deleted..

125 The principle of Roman’s Kornouhov Tariel’s Kapanadze systems is now available to everyone

https://youtu.be/LnpkcTJWzZ0?t=411

More discussion on the video https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4466.msg104745#msg104745
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: seychelles on June 18, 2023, 03:54:42 PM
WELCOME BACK STIVEP. I HAVE BEEN MISSING YOUR WISE COMMENTS AND GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on June 18, 2023, 05:08:39 PM
Hi Wesley,please no more politics over here !!!

We are standing just at the brink of a 3rd World war and don't need to stiffle it over here...

Also as Chet already said, we want to have Overunity to be made as a reality,so your old text books view don't fit here anymore...

Read again the emails I did send you about the principle, how Zografos defied the Carnot limit...
And this was proven by the famous Physics Max Planck Institute:

https://www-hellagen-gr.translate.goog/apo-tin-ellada-tha-xekinhsei/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp (https://www-hellagen-gr.translate.goog/apo-tin-ellada-tha-xekinhsei/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp)

So Wesley, please don't reverse my statement on the frontpage what Chet already quoted..


Many thanks for understanding.
Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 19, 2023, 01:55:16 AM
Zografos defied the Carnot limit...
With all pros and cons we need to take to consideration opposing comments  and make  analysis by yourself .
 Mr.  Petros Zografos  can be seen form perspective of  critical view at first,

I'll try not to make judgement.

All positive  you can read by yourself  and I will point at critics stand point.
 so the first  is the article :
http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectrolysis/zogrifos.html (http://rexresearch.com/zogrifoselectrolysis/zogrifos.html)
Than go  little lower in the article  and read:
QUOTE:[ Excerpt ]
"I found a bunch of nonsense claims in the internet, about the resonance frequency of water helping to split bonds.":
 read  that part that is supported by link:
https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8642/how-does-high-frequency-electrolysis-of-water-work (https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8642/how-does-high-frequency-electrolysis-of-water-work)
I can make A COMMENT WITH ANALYSIS OF THE COMPONENTS USED  that are presented on the pictures too.

Carnot limit.../theorem  is explained  here
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot%27s_theorem_(thermodynamics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot%27s_theorem_(thermodynamics))
Carnot theorem is a proof by contradiction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_by_contradiction)reductio ad absurdum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum) (a method to prove a statement by assuming its falsity and logically deriving a false or contradictory statement from this assumption)
-so it is a method and nothing more than that

that can be translated to:
Carnot efficiency
https://news.mit.edu/2010/explained-carnot-0519 (https://news.mit.edu/2010/explained-carnot-0519)

According to Carnot limit.../theorem
striking is for some readers that this what they think is reachable is not technically possible as of yet and may never be possible too.
The best example of analysis, that you can apply to many revelations including Petros Zografos as well will be metallic Hydrogen shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMfPNUZzG_Q&t=798s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMfPNUZzG_Q&t=798s)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: AlienGrey on June 19, 2023, 07:23:43 AM
Welcome back Wesley.

Sil
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 19, 2023, 08:09:18 AM
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus of an atom for billions of years. It is a perpetual motion machine.

Evil tongues say that an electron does not lose energy during its rotation.  Because and rotation. Right?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on June 19, 2023, 08:22:37 AM
Wesley  :D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 19, 2023, 11:23:50 AM
Evil tongues say that an electron does not lose energy during its rotation.  Because and rotation. Right?
Welcome back Wesley.

Sil
Wesley  :D
it is my pleasure to see you again guys. Thank you ..thank you ...
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 19, 2023, 03:34:15 PM
Hi, Wesley! Nice to see you here again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqBJ7WGa4
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 19, 2023, 04:48:14 PM
**
Thank you for  posting in this place.
Nice to see you again.
I can't comment on subject in question  - I'm not in Administration.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 19, 2023, 09:28:43 PM
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus of an atom for billions of years. It is a perpetual motion machine.
is the electron motion in the cloud around nucleus - perpetual motion ?
The answer is:  NO!!!!!

Quote
electron is not a perpetual-motion machine because we cannot extract energy from it without causing it to drop to a lower orbital state, and once the electron reaches the Bohr radius, no energy whatsoever can be squeezed out.
https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg22029404-900-quantum-question/ (https://www.newscientist.com/lastword/mg22029404-900-quantum-question/)
NOTE: Perpetual motion is rejected by science - so is perpetual motion  machine. Patent office rejects all applications talking  about it.

How  do electrons move in cloud:
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Generally atoms' electrons do not move in anything like the classical sense
.

Electrons actually don't orbit the nucleus.
Quote
This is a model that simplifies things. The most correct model of the atom that we have today is the Schrodinger model.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/188102/does-nucleus-itself-has-its-own-motion (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/188102/does-nucleus-itself-has-its-own-motion)

Summary:
Bohr atom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model)
-from year 1913 is to be blamed for  all of confusion.
Although it is still convenient with its "planetary  structure" it is good for education of kids
and talks to some not skilled in art  adults  who are not always very old.
Today we have  year 2023 not 1913  ...
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More of  the explanation to your  concern about  Kapanadze  will be in the next  comment
unless  audience formulates   requiring query in  area of atom and electron motion .

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 19, 2023, 10:59:07 PM
PART#1
Can we summarize what we know about Kapanadze and try and figure him out.
BTW I do NOT agree with your theory that he is receiving transmitted energy from one of his associates.

Analysis from the Historical Perspective:

Energy must have its origin.
Device of Kapanadze  I examined in Tbilisi Georgia (Europe)
must be powered from energy that comes outside of his device.

Talking about energy :

Audience and  Stefan are still in hope to get something for nothing.
Means : someone  decides to  donate his intellectual property to the public "energizing"  the crowd.
That someone  is a source from a surroundings you are waiting for.

Tariel Kapanadze was talking about energy from surroundings (around us..)
So if you can point  at exactly that place and that form of energy  from 
Kapanadze statement  you can have his device working on your table ready to use - tomorrow.

Bunch of guys for several years  were  unsuccessful likely due to  lack of  logical thinking.
None of them pointed at :
what this energy in Tariel Kapanadze device comes from  and  how it is converted to electricity?

It is not a shame to be a loser but indeed - the losers gave up,  started to fight and  accuse each other  .
I was trapped in this mess and my willingness to cooperate  was in  conflict with some members activity.
At the end I said goodbye to this forum  but now I'm back - since yesterday,

In the  meantime   SR, Akula, Ruslan, Adrian Guska, and others started to deliver  "visual "( youtube)
evidence of  them having similar devices.. Only Ruslan is  alive from that group as far as I'm aware.   
The rest of them are gone forever - in Russia.  -By the way historical facts are facts - not politics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9foRzZEZRo)
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I pointed and I think  nobody else apart from me till today pointed  at :
what this energy in Tariel Kapanadze device comes from  and  how it is converted to electricity?
So if some of you spend money made nothing blame yourself -for lack of education   in area of concern  too.
 
If someone is  interested with my activity  here is one of the examples of it:
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=107 (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI?t=107)

-in the next comment I'll explain more:
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: a.king21 on June 20, 2023, 03:02:31 AM
OK Wesley, Let's put it another way.
The atom has been vibrating for billions of years. Therefore it is a perpetual motion machine.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 20, 2023, 08:05:06 AM
Wesley, there is no eternal device, there are time intervals, relative to the observer, in which devices operate. For example, a permanent magnet. Keeps the production of magnetic flux for as long as its capabilities and operating conditions allow. Conventionally, a "piece of metal alloys" once launched by an electromagnetic pulse generates a magnetic flux. If its period that it will generate a magnetic field is 120 years, then - in relation to the observer, whose life span is 80 years, this is a magnetically perpetual magnetic field generator.

For example, your "official science", which you do good, does not know how a transformer and a synchronous generator work, where the phase winding is laid in grooves. or wound on a metal stator rod. Magnetic lines from the rotor poles do not cross the phase wires in these designs. Just like don't cross the wires in the transformer window. Empirically, design engineers have derived a formula for calculating the EMF for these structures, which is called the "EMF transformer formula". Physicists cannot explain, carrying all sorts of nonsense, the smarter ones simply call it an engineering formula "in fact".

Doctor (of Medicine) Robert Holcomb  (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/overunity-holcomb-energy-system.html)was able to build a generator with a rotor that does not rotate, neither physicists nor the corporations that control the energy industry can accept this, as this destroys their foundations.

Are you a researcher?, or a warrior of the system?
You can contact them and visit their center, the company where their device works. There is no need to go to Georgia here, the Holcomb Center is located in the USA, and operates on the basis of US laws.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on June 20, 2023, 10:10:38 AM


Doctor (of Medicine) Robert Holcomb  (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/overunity-holcomb-energy-system.html)was able to build a generator with a rotor that does not rotate, neither physicists nor the corporations that control the energy industry can accept this, as this destroys their foundations.



Every asynchronous induction motor has rotating magnetic field without physical rotation.
And Holcomb-style device you will have when you take a typical 3 phase slip ring motor ( commonly used in electric winches and cranes) and mechanically lock the rotor like Holcomb did. Measure output at slip rings and see if you get OU.


Cheers,
Pix
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 20, 2023, 10:29:29 AM
pix, This is the first thing that came to mind for many electrical engineers. Many have tried it, all had the same result: COP less than 1, very less. They got a transformer with very poor efficiency. There is a difference between a generator and a transformer, while the EMF formula is general, I already know this for sure.

In this experiment, they just approached the generator version, but the guy made a mistake, and so did I, advising him.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/static-electromagnetic-transducer.html

But even with a mistake, we can consider COP-1.3-2.0
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 20, 2023, 12:55:05 PM
All these misunderstandings are due to excessive formalization. When a formal description is used, the general understanding of the physical entity is lost.
Example: Some wind many different coils and assume that their connection options change something and the result is an exclusive device.

Unfortunately, it is not. The resultant effect of many coils is equal to the same effect as from one. No matter how you wind it, along, across, in the opposite direction - nature integrates everything.

   Any formal concept does not fully correspond to the real one. Formalization was invented by people to make life easier.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 21, 2023, 03:49:10 AM
But even with a mistake, we can consider COP-1.3-2.0
Thank you for your comment.
 getting more energy net contradicts  models and rules in physics as energy must come from somewhere.
 So it is not important  to us what you have till you present it , prove it,  brand it and you can't even patent the mechanisms in physics as there are no patents for natural phenomena and its mechanisms. You can only  patent  applications.
Till than such  claim is rejected.

COP >than 1  can't be seen at the output as a
NET VALUE.
and can't be utilized in real world.
Example  with Refrigerator is not the proof, but just a look  at one of components inside of the the  complex phenomena
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 21, 2023, 03:55:08 AM
All these misunderstandings are due to excessive formalization.
Any formal concept does not fully correspond to the real one. Formalization was invented by people to make life easier.
In average I agree.
However   most of us don't speak Chinese and Chinese  who don't speak English  can't understand what you writing about.
So it is the level of the reader who has or has not -a problem with understanding  without  formalization
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 21, 2023, 04:17:48 AM
OK Wesley, Let's put it another way.
The atom has been vibrating for billions of years. Therefore it is a perpetual motion machine.
the answer is NO!!!!!!!!!!
Motion of an electron is regulated by its energy level. Energy of electron is not an electron constant property  but its variable.
That energy  is regulated and comes from interaction of an electron with outside world. Collision of an electron with energy of positron  destroys  the electron  and in results its properties stop to exist - the end  products is two photons in opposite direction.
Electron  is not permanently associated with an atom and can  be separated from it e.g. by interaction with a photon.
And unlike an  electron  -photon doesn't have mass it moves at speed of light and doesn't behave as  an electron.
However due to  electron duality it can act as a wave or as a particle...electron is also not a property of a nucleus but its current guest
( depends on its energy level)
 
For  a rejected by science perpetual motion machine you need  constant energy value and constant energy use  -no changes  and no losses.
Electron  is under  constant energy fluctuation  any time  all the time  e.g. temperature
 
That what makes gold is not electron but nucleus
Quote
Gold is the 79th element of the periodic table and bears the symbol Au.
Gold’s nucleus is made up of 79 neutrons and 79 protons, making it very heavy and dense
why-is-gold-golden. (https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/why-is-gold-golden.html#:~:text=Gold%E2%80%99s%20nucleus%20is%20made%20up%20of%2079%20neutrons,the%20negatively%20charged%20electrons%20must%20work%20extra%20hard.)

Talking with some students confused in  physics I like to add that generalization and simplification is  just first step however student must be remembering that in reality
Bohr atom  will be totally rejected by him in the near future as nothing in it  is true but  for the time being it is good for 10 years old  boy and maybe some  adults too..

 text  explaining that confusion is here :
Note: -the  article is  quite old.
Quote
Now, what should we teach first? Should we teach the correct but unfamiliar law
with its strange and difficult conceptual ideas, for example the theory of relativity,
four-dimensional space-time, and so on? Or should we first teach the simple “constant-mass” law,
which is only approximate, but does not involve such difficult ideas?
The first is more exciting, more wonderful, and more fun, but the second is easier to get at first,
and is a first step to a real understanding of the first idea.
This point arises again and again in teaching physics.
At different times we shall have to resolve it in different ways, but at each stage it is worth learning
what is now known, how accurate it is, how it fits into everything else,
and how it may be changed when we learn more.
https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_01.html (https://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/I_01.html)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 21, 2023, 06:39:56 AM
Thank you for your comment.
 getting more energy net contradicts  models and rules in physics as energy must come from somewhere.
 So it is not important  to us what you have till you present it , prove it,  brand it and you can't even patent the mechanisms in physics as there are no patents for natural phenomena and its mechanisms. You can only  patent  applications.
Till than such  claim is rejected.

COP >than 1  can't be seen at the output as a
NET VALUE.
and can't be utilized in real world.
Example  with Refrigerator is not the proof, but just a look  one of components inside of the the  complex phenomena
Wesley

 ;)
Wesley, you are ignoring electromagnetism, and this particular thing is already a priori OverUnity!

The magnetic field of a magnet, what do you think, what kind of Energy?

Energy is the derivative of power with respect to time, a purely mathematical substance. Power consists of Force and speed for mechanics Pk=Fv, current and voltage for electromagnetic system Pe=IU. The current strength (I, A) is not a flow of electrons, but a vortex magnetic field, Voltage / EMF (E-U, V) between potential contacts, this is an electric vortex field, the effect on the conductor cross section is an electromagnetic field ( https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/emf-and-current-in-conductor.html ). Science operates not with the "electrical energy" parameter, but with the "electromagnetic field energy" parameter, is this news to you?
Any generator with a ferromagnetic core uses a magnetic field amplification element in the core ( https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetization-of-steel-magnetic.html ), which is like not OverUnity. Further use is already a purely engineering issue.

Therefore, there is “Science as a kind of activity for the study of the universe” and there is “Permissible science” for the “herd of vegetables” who do not want to think.

Good discoveries!
 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 21, 2023, 10:49:23 AM
For  a rejected by science perpetual motion machine you need  constant energy value and constant energy use  -no changes  and no losses.
Electron  is under  constant energy fluctuation  any time  all the time  e.g. temperature
But if we cool a certain body (environment) ? Without initial temperature difference.
The internal energy of a substance is always directly proportional to its temperature.
So we can take some of the energy from the substance and use it. Or is that also impossible?
Only this is difficult to implement constructively, but that's another question.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 21, 2023, 11:03:31 AM
The atom has been vibrating for billions of years.
The problem is that we don't know what the price is.
All vibrations of a single atom since the beginning of time.
Or all the statistical variants of vibrations and fluctuations that occur when matter moves through time from the beginning to today.
One can imagine our Universe as a huge atomic icebreaker that moves through the ice of spacetime.
Although what is the use of these vibrations for us, if the energy is not spent? If we use this energy, then the state of the atom changes, its potential energy decreases.
Inside the thermos flask, the water is hot, but outside it is cold and does not warm the hand. You can make tea from hot water, but then the thermos will be empty.
Only this is difficult to implement constructively, but that's another question.
No, it's the same question. You can transfer energy from one place to another, but it is impossible to get more energy out of it than you spent. 
The Carnot cycle does not allow. And the growing entropy of our space.
Nothing will happen if we do not go beyond our space-time continuum.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 21, 2023, 02:34:26 PM
No, it's the same question. You can transfer energy from one place to another, but it is impossible to get more energy out of it than you spent. 
The Carnot cycle does not allow. And the growing entropy of our space.
Nothing will happen if we do not go beyond our space-time continuum.
Magnetocalorics, ferroelectric capacitors (variconds). The Carnot cycle operates with heat, pressure and volume. We will warm our cooled varicond with the warmth of the environment at a certain time of the oscillatory process. The heat energy of the environment will be converted into electrical energy.
это всё дедиван разбудоражил пару лет назад
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 21, 2023, 03:26:36 PM
No, that won't work. In any case, to obtain energy, an energy gradient is needed, a transition from a higher state to a lower one. On the contrary, it is impossible to move energy without additional costs. It is impossible to loop the process without additional energy.

In general, this discussion is meaningless. It is impossible to produce energy without a source. This is the end. DedIvan won't help.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 21, 2023, 04:05:16 PM
...
Energy is the derivative of power with respect to time, ...

Hi Rakarskiy,
You got that backwards.
bi
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 21, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
Hi Rakarskiy,
You got that backwards.
bi

Mechanical energy is the energy associated with the movement of an object or its position, the ability to perform mechanical work. Work can only be done with force. On the time interval, the application of this force at a certain speed of movement. When performing work on a time interval, ENERGY will be determined.

 ;)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 21, 2023, 04:23:41 PM
rakarskiy, do you have a problem with translation of derivative? Or just problem with physics?
bi

edit.

Quote
power is the time derivative of energy

https://tinyurl.com/Power-formula

wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_derivative
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 23, 2023, 06:36:44 PM
But if we cool a certain body (environment) ? Without initial temperature difference.
The internal energy of a substance is always directly proportional to its temperature.
So we can take some of the energy from the substance and use it. Or is that also impossible?
Only this is difficult to implement constructively, but that's another question.
Energy used for cooling  comes from you  are paying for it
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 23, 2023, 09:15:57 PM
;)
Wesley, you are ignoring electromagnetism, and this particular thing is already a priori OverUnity!
The magnetic field of a magnet, what do you think, what kind of Energy?
You gave complex question and I  will try to  respond to quoted portion of it.

LET ME START FROM MAGNETIC FIELD ALONE:
I'll be using language  easily absorbed  by any audience ( simplified) so  do not catch me on it please.
Think about the most "selfish" thing in the planet earth.
Magnetic field of the magnet is self contain and it doesn't interact with anything
Yes  permanent Magnet  makes a lot of things around it to obey its presence but magnet doesn't obey anything (accept e.g temperature change.)
at Curie temperature magnet  loses its "magnetism"
the-curie-temperature-and-magnetic-properties/ (https://www.drbakstmagnetics.com/the-curie-temperature-and-magnetic-properties/#:~:text=The%20temperature%20at%20which%20certain%20magnetic%20materials%20undergo,can%20be%20removed%20in%20a%20variety%20of%20ways.)

So it is like talking to a person who takes "space" and disturbs your comfort  but  having no way to make him  to interact  with you.
It is only you who is benefited / limited/ or in any  other way affected .
 

Characterization :
-A magnetic field is a field explaining the magnetic influence on an object in space.
-Magnetic field lines don't start or stop anywhere, they always make closed loops and
 will continue inside a magnetic material ---(though sometimes they are not drawn this way).
-Magnetic field lines never cross
-magnetic field is described mathematically as a vector field
 But vector doesn't have to mean  motion (controversial statement)
https://www.britannica.com/science/vector-physics (https://www.britannica.com/science/vector-physics)
 as vector has magnitude and  direction, it does not have position.
-density of magnetic field lines indicates the strength of the field.
-has two ends called poles; one end is the north pole and the other is the south pole.
 A north pole will attract a south pole; the magnets pull on each other. But the two north poles will push each other away. We say the magnets repel each other.

-magnetic field has no mass because photons don't have mass.

more is here : https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/ (https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/magnetic-forces-and-magnetic-fields/)
magnetic-field-current-carrying-wire/a/what-are-magnetic-fields

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Why can’t magnetism be used as a source of energy?

Because magnets do not contain energy — but they can help control it…
https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/ (https://engineering.mit.edu/engage/ask-an-engineer/why-cant-magnetism-be-used-as-a-source-of-energy/)


(32)   Free Energy from the Earth's Magnetic Field?
I am a yr 12 physics student from Australia, and I was wondering if we can make an electrical current flow in a
wire or piece of metal using the earth's magnetic field. Because in a similar way electrons in a wire can be forced to
flow due to magnetic fields placed nearby the wire. Surely this would be a cheap and efficient form of "free energy"
perhaps? I was just wondering anyhow, I hope you can provide me with an answer.

Reply :   You need understand better the difference between the effects of electric and magnetic field,
say on electrons, the particle which carry electric currents in wires.     Electric fields PUSH electrons, and can
give them energy--they do so to electrons in wires the way pressure drops pushes water through pipes.     
Magnetic fields are more subtle. Out in space, where electrons are not bound to wires but fly through
space, magnetic fields can DEFLECT them to different directions, but do not give them any energy.
That is how the Earth's field can trap radiation belt particles, year after year after year:
it has a great effect on their motion, but because the field needs not spend any energy on doing so, it is
A CHANGING magnetic field does create an electric field, and therefore CAN impart energy.
Magnetic storms involve such changes, and can drive "Earth currents" which have been measured.
They can even add (at near-polar latitudes) extra currents to the electric grid, which have
been known to cause damage, because they resemble DC, and the grid is designed for AC.   
 For more than that, you will have to study more about electricity and magnetism.
https://pwg.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/FAQs3.html#q32 (https://pwg.gsfc.nasa.gov/Education/FAQs3.html#q32)

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 Only changing  (e.g ,moving) magnetic field can induce current in the wire.
 So if we had rotating wind turbine with magnets at the end in vicinity of the coil than  yes we can  induce current in it.

Creation/ origin of magnetic field I'll explain  in the next comment.
( simplified  explanation)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 24, 2023, 12:32:55 AM
Creation/ origin of magnetic field
( simplified  explanation)
The magnetic properties of materials are mainly due to the magnetic moments of their atoms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atom)' orbiting electrons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron)
So at the very point in time or space at which something "magnetic" starts: 
we  deal with electrons and its electrical charge , (energy level,) certain direction of its spin.
Atomic Energy Levels | Quantum physics | Physics | Khan Academy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vK5KPycEvA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vK5KPycEvA)
The video shows only energy levels.

magnetism largely comes from electron spins so to have magnetic field we also need 
electrons creating electron  pair ....  (on the same orbit -  Bohr atom model)
Note: outdated model of Bohr atom model is often  very helpful for beginners.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr_model)
Electron Pairing
After completing this section you will be able to do the following:
Explain what paired and unpaired electrons are.
Explain how paired electrons affect the magnetic properties of a material.
https://www.nde-ed.org/Physics/Magnetism/electronpairing. (https://www.nde-ed.org/Physics/Magnetism/electronpairing.xhtml#:~:text=The%20two%20electrons%20are%20paired%2C%20meaning%20that%20they,of%20atoms%20with%20all%20paired%20electrons%20is%20zero.)
The two electrons are paired, meaning that they spin and orbit in opposite directions. Since the magnetic fields produced
by the motion of the electrons are in opposite directions, they add up to zero.
The overall magnetic field strength of atoms with all paired electrons is zero.
So  electron is a moving charge and :
Magnetic forces do no work on moving charges !!!
Because it is confusing  here is article:
https://van.physics.illinois.edu/ask/listing/17176 (https://van.physics.illinois.edu/ask/listing/17176)


Skip this
quote for  simplicity:
Quote
The magnetic moments of the nuclei of atoms are typically thousands of times smaller than the electrons' magnetic moments,
so they are negligible in the context of the magnetization of materials.
Nuclear magnetic moments are nevertheless very important in other contexts, particularly in nuclear magnetic resonance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_magnetic_resonance)(NMR) andmagnetic resonance imaging (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_resonance_imaging)(MRI).

Magnetic field isn't made of photons
The magnetic field isn't made of photons. Photons are made of magnetic (rather, electromagnetic) fields.
To be specific, photons are ripples in the electromagnetic field.
So, a magnet is surrounded by a magnetic field. If the magnet is not moving, then the field is stationary, and there are no photons.
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/195825/magnetism-and-photon (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/195825/magnetism-and-photons#:~:text=The%20magnetic%20field%20isn%27t%20made%20of%20photons.%20Photons,field%20is%20stationary%2C%20and%20there%20are%20no%20photons.)
the link from above  represent little too much of a  "different school"
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So since nothing is clear to an average reader ,  I'll try to find few helpful videos
Magnetic Properties   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-gVHE2VY0o
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-gVHE2VY0o)Magnetic Field of a Dipole  https://youtu.be/GSLjmi2qIfM?t=124 (https://youtu.be/GSLjmi2qIfM?t=124)

I can't find  video that shows  electron pair  so I'm posting here video that is partially wrong
but at least gives you some  form of understanding what magnetism comes from
https://youtu.be/MRqQQGO7Xe8?t=31 (https://youtu.be/MRqQQGO7Xe8?t=31)

Note: Bohr  model of atom is no longer valid but is good  to simplify explanation
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 24, 2023, 01:28:48 AM
The electron has been orbiting the nucleus of an atom for billions of years.
Why electron doesn't orbit the nucleus:

What Does an Electron Look Like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5ww6aYAZ8

 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ5ww6aYAZ8)Watch video  from below for 15 seconds only.
Nuclear Magnetic Moment
https://youtu.be/3QniicZuVnc?t=664 (https://youtu.be/3QniicZuVnc?t=664)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: alan on June 24, 2023, 02:20:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8yVJDO9HJ8
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: alan on June 24, 2023, 04:20:30 PM
Ok. 
 
I guess Kaku shows by his statement that they may have nothing and that it's being covered up. 
Sabine Hossenfelder: The Quantum Hype Bubble Is About To Burst 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBLVtCYHVO8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBLVtCYHVO8)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on June 24, 2023, 07:51:25 PM
Sun and other stars throw minute particles having a charge and a very high speed. They hit magnetic field of Earth and produce electromagnetic oscillations of high frequency called "white noise". I believe that is our source of energy , we only  need to build a condensing device because this energy is widely spread over all ambient
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 25, 2023, 08:44:09 PM
Energy used for cooling  comes from you  are paying for it
Wesley
Well, we just have segneto capacitor is in consist oscillatory circuit.
I needn't to cold it. It  become cold itself in certain time of oscillation process.
And after heating from environment,system is increasing energy.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 08:37:18 AM
Creation/ origin of magnetic field
( simplified  explanation)
*******

Wesley, thank you for your point of view. But it sounds more like an attempt to confuse yourself or further confuse others.
Any OverUnity synchronous generator, the mechanical force in rotating the rotor to overcome the magnetic locking electromagnetic attraction, is the most primitive solution in creating a variable magnetic field in the stator. But even electromechanical systems with compensation for this blockage are already OverUnity. 
The Lorentz force does not exist, it is a mathematical lie, a compilation from the Ampere force (Ampere force has been proven empirically). The main lie of official physics is that an electromechanical generator is a converter of mechanical energy into electrical energy (I already said that there is electromagnetic field energy). If you don't understand the point, you will never get what you are looking for.

https://overunity.com/19069/holcomb-energy-systemsbreakthrough-technology-to-the-world/msg578953/#msg578953
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 01:32:10 PM
Wesley, I don't give a damn about an authoritative opinion if I know it's wrong. Any concept that has exceptions in its explanation is wrong.
Whether or not Holcomb's "authorities" have accepted it, I don't care, I know how it works. Holcomb's oscillator, works just like any synchronous oscillator with slots and a magnetic mechanical rotor. Holcomb's difference is the rotor system with switching magnets. How EMF is induced in a synchronous oscillator official physics has screwed up by applying unipolar theory based on the formula (E=Blv). Engineers don't use it, they use the engineering formula (E=4.44ϕf).
The fact that Holcomb plays by the rules of the system will probably ruin him. For those who want to replicate, must follow engineering design techniques, since all generators are made by engineers, not physicists with its offic science. There is probably engineering physics, which does not explain but does.

It was great talking to you!
The magnet is the device - OverUnity! 
Strengthening the magnetic field in the core - OverUnity!
All other engineering is technology, which is the most expensive product today.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 26, 2023, 01:47:01 PM
Hammer high on the shelf - OverUnity!
Because the hammer can fall off the shelf and produce energy.

- but after the fall, it will be already a fallen hammer (a demagnetized magnet)?

- Set up a shelf in space. The hammer will fall for a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFsezenCIKM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFsezenCIKM)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 01:53:29 PM
How many demagnetized magnets have you seen, properly operated?
For example, I saw a 1938 generator in which the magnets are still capable of producing something worthwhile, they are NOT neodymium, still "iron".
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 26, 2023, 01:54:52 PM
Wesley, I don't give a damn about an authoritative opinion if I know it's wrong.
Whether or not Holcomb's "authorities" have accepted it, I don't care,
The fact that Holcomb plays by the rules of the system will probably ruin him.
For those who want to replicate, must follow engineering design techniques, since all generators are made by engineers,
not physicists with its offic science. There is probably engineering physics, which does not explain but does.

The magnet is the device - OverUnity! 
Strengthening the magnetic field in the core - OverUnity!
All other engineering is technology, which is the most expensive product today.
I explained magnet and magnetism.
You didn't  find any other  official source  contradicting it.
It is your right to have your own opinion
_____________________________________
simple way to prove your point  - if you think you are right than prove it.
Show the Holcomb replication done with your own hands

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 26, 2023, 01:58:27 PM
How many demagnetized magnets have you seen, properly operated?
It is necessary to carry out measurements, compare data in the form of numbers on magnetization, then draw conclusions.It is also necessary to study the storage conditions of magnets, technical documentation on the proper storage of magnets.

https://www.aliexpress.com/popular/tesla-meter.html

How many demagnetized magnets have you seen, properly operated?

And who said that in perpetuum mobile devices, magnets are properly operated, when rotating?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_y05q7J58 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp_y05q7J58)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 02:09:55 PM
There is one measure of magnet performance, and that is the output power, even if it has decreased from the rated power.
In any synchronous core oscillator, the magnet will run extremely long because the oscillation cycle itself will contribute to "no demagnetization".
If the oscillator is running continuously, the magnetization of the magnet will stay within the normal range. That sample I saw is an exhibit from an electrical engineering school, and it still produces the energy needed to glow a light bulb when the knob is turned. Other than the bulb and the grease in the slide bearings, nothing has changed there, including the magnets.
This is for trolls and "losers" about the "perpetual motion machine."   
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 02:20:31 PM
Show the Holcomb replication done with your own hands

Wesley

Do you need it? I don't need it. I know how it works, and I share it with others. The simplicity of the combination, requires precise engineering for all load phase change positions. 
90% don't know how a simple core synchronous alternator works. How it works with the load and why the magnetic field amplification occurs with the load, etc.

Solve the simplest problem!
We need to calculate the measure of peak EMF of a 220V/50Hz single-phase alternator, with an active load of 1 kW connected to the phase outputs, at 220V mains voltage.

 ;)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 26, 2023, 02:23:04 PM
the oscillation cycle itself will contribute to "no demagnetization".
See how the magnets are inserted here and tell us about  " properly operated":

https://www.magnet-motor4u.de/bauanleitung#

Determining the magnetization of magnets based on the force of the hand to lift off the surface is wrong. This type of measuring device will show the truth:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Permanent+Magnet+Gauss+Meter
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 02:33:08 PM
See how the magnets are inserted here and tell us about  " properly operated":

https://www.magnet-motor4u.de/bauanleitung#

Determining the magnetization of magnets based on the force of the hand to lift off the surface is wrong. This type of measuring device will show the truth:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Permanent+Magnet+Gauss+Meter

I have little interest in the magnetic motor (its service life is defined by about 20 years of continuous operation). Except that there is not a single fact of such service life.
The magnet is not demagnetized when the magnetic circuit is shorted. (A magnet included in a magnetic circuit is a magnetic keeper). In a synchronous oscillator, it restores magnetization at load peaks. It has one problem, temperature rating. The alternator commutator, will not cause the magnet to heat up, and with the correct design (multi-circuit), where there is compensation for the attraction of the breaking poles of the stator by the commutator, the electromagnetic torque will tend to zero
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 26, 2023, 02:41:41 PM
In a synchronous oscillator
1. What does it have to do with perpetual motion machines?
2. Where are the Gaussmeter measurements? Now and 20 years ago?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 02:47:16 PM
Wesley, the crowd can't capture anything, the crowd doesn't want to learn, it's sheep!
Individuals, if they can produce something, it won't last long. The system will suppress that production, as it has done more than once!

My goal is for the thinking person to be able to do for themselves. Only for this you need your own head and material capabilities.
At the same time, the one who makes, must be confident in his power, because he will not have service and repair service, operator's tracking service!
From manufacturer to consumer, the entire chain will be on him!
 Another question is whether the producers and sellers of energy will tolerate it?


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 26, 2023, 03:00:17 PM
Wesley, the crowd can't capture anything, the crowd doesn't want to learn, it's sheep!
Individuals, if they can produce something, it won't last long. The system will suppress that production, as it has done more than once!
why you care about  suppressing?
Make it,  present it and no suppression  will be possible.
-the sheep will replicate it  ...
-right?
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 03:02:57 PM
1. What does it have to do with perpetual motion machines?
2. Where are the Gaussmeter measurements? Now and 20 years ago?

What "ETERNAL MOTOR" are you dreaming about?

I'm only interested in mechanical/solid-state generators with COP>1: 

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetic-generator-cop-12.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 26, 2023, 03:14:37 PM
What "ETERNAL MOTOR" are you dreaming about?
I'm interested in any generators that use any fuel less than 0.22 cents per gallon. Haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 03:15:40 PM
 :)
Unfortunately, everyone who does doesn't like publicity. For me, it's important that it be done, with or without publicity. Only someone with the appropriate education or experience will do it.   That's usually how it works.  A non-professional at the first "rake" loses interest. And the "Waiting Mana" will still be waiting to be given or allowed to do it.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 03:17:16 PM
I'm interested in any generators that use any fuel less than 0.22 cents per gallon. Haven't found it yet.

Not interested in self-propelled?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: ramset on June 26, 2023, 05:21:48 PM
Here Partzman shared a translated document (post #240 below link
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4471.msg105359;topicseen#msg105359 (https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4471.msg105359;topicseen#msg105359)
A type of transformer ( similar to  Kapanadze?) that makes a gain claim
based on relatively simple process’s


(Trying to attach Karnaukhova file from link)
To Note
Link is for discussion or comment ( was part of research database) no claim is inferred by posting it here.


Respectfully submitted
Chet
Ps to Wesley
Please move or remove if not proper place
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 26, 2023, 06:59:11 PM
...
Any OverUnity synchronous generator, ... 

There is no such thing.


The Lorentz force does not exist, it is a mathematical lie, a compilation from the Ampere force (Ampere force has been proven empirically). The main lie of official physics is that an electromechanical generator is a converter of mechanical energy into electrical energy (I already said that there is electromagnetic field energy). If you don't understand the point, you will never get what you are looking for.
....

Rakarskiy,
A year or two ago I pointed out your error in applying Ampere's Force Law. But you persist, believing yourself smarter than all the engineers and scientists for the past couple centuries. Here is another article on the subject. You'll ignore it, but it may enlighten others.

http://www.ampere.cnrs.fr/histoire/parcours-historique/lois-courants/force-obsolete/eng

Regards,
bi
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 07:17:07 PM
There is no such thing.

Rakarskiy,
A year or two ago I pointed out your error in applying Ampere's Force Law. But you persist, believing yourself smarter than all the engineers and scientists for the past couple centuries. Here is another article on the subject. You'll ignore it, but it may enlighten others.

http://www.ampere.cnrs.fr/histoire/parcours-historique/lois-courants/force-obsolete/eng

Regards,
bi

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html 
it is not "writing," but real data from real experiments. From this work is just planned "complete debunking of the postulate of Lorentz force" as utopia in the formation of EMF and planning of a frame simple motor-generator OverUnity. For now, postponed until the victory over the Plague.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 26, 2023, 07:59:07 PM
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html 
it is not "writing," but real data from real experiments. From this work is just planned "complete debunking of the postulate of Lorentz force" as utopia in the formation of EMF and planning of a frame simple motor-generator OverUnity. For now, postponed until the victory over the Plague.

Ah yes. Real data. Like 10.4 volts = 1.3 amperes * 3 ohms. Forth figure in reference link. Debunked Ohm's Law also.
bi
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 09:18:12 PM
Ah yes. Real data. Like 10.4 volts = 1.3 amperes * 3 ohms. Forth figure in reference link. Debunked Ohm's Law also.
bi

Wow! So you don't even know basic things? 
10.4 volts is the voltage on the voltmeter or the effective voltage of the circuit. 
3 ohms - resistor + 1 ohm winding and circuit = 4 ohms;
1.3A is the ammeter reading.
1.3A*4 Ohms = 5.2V is the level of Voltage Drop; 
10.4V + 5.2V = 15.6V is the effective value of EMF under electromagnetic induction.


I = (E-U)/(R+r) = (15.6V-10.4V)/(3+1)=  1.3A

 ;) Don't embarrass yourself.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 26, 2023, 09:45:05 PM
Wow! So you don't even know basic things? 
10.4 volts is the voltage on the voltmeter or the effective voltage of the circuit. 
3 ohms - resistor + 1 ohm winding and circuit = 4 ohms;
1.3A is the ammeter reading.
1.3A*4 Ohms = 5.2V is the level of Voltage Drop; 
10.4V + 5.2V = 15.6V is the effective value of EMF under electromagnetic induction.


I = (E-U)/(R+r) = (15.6V-10.4V)/(3+1)=  1.3A

 ;) Don't embarrass yourself.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 10:27:17 PM
According to Ohm's law, in the section of the conductor with active res istance R, the current I creates a voltage drop Ui = IR.
 ;) ;D

PS
the voltage drop level - [Ui], can be determined from the difference of the EMF -[E] and  the effective voltage in the network;  which is shown by the voltmeter - [Ui = E - U]

In blue I added a post on how to check the voltage drop level in the circuit
 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 26, 2023, 10:34:19 PM
According to Ohm's law, in the section of the conductor with active res istance R, the current I creates a voltage drop U = IR.
 ;) ;D

And that is not what is shown. You show 10.4V.
bi

*assuming ammeter shunt is a typical 0.1-0.01 milliohm and therefore negligible.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 26, 2023, 10:46:22 PM
The question is, what kind of education do you have? God forbid such a teacher would teach physics to my grandchildren, I would have made a scandal and demanded an aptitude test.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 27, 2023, 09:28:29 AM
About:
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html)
Looks like a measurement error.

Reading Wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amplitude)

Rakarskiy probably measured the peak-to-peak amplitude with an oscilloscope. This is (2) "Peak-to-peak amplitude" at the Wiki link.
And it was necessary to divide it by 2 to get parameter (1) "Peak amplitude". Then parameter (1)"Peak amplitude" must be divided by the root of 2 to get parameter (3) "Root mean square amplitude".
Use parameter (3)"Root mean square amplitude" for your further calculations and conclusions. This is true only for sinusoidal voltage!

Wrong measurements lead to wrong conclusions.

The question is, what kind of education do you have?

<facepalm>
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 27, 2023, 09:54:07 AM
In the experiment, measurements were made with an ammeter, a voltmeter for alternating current circuits.  This is enough to estimate the voltage and amperage of an AC circuit, in which there is nothing but the alternator winding, connecting wires and load resistance.
I am always wary of the "radiologist in power." Never listen to a "radiologist" who cannot calculate an AC circuit.

Second, I suggested above that Wesley solve the circuit calculation problem.
Serga solve it, and then yap! Because your "proffesional correctness" is also highly questionable.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 27, 2023, 10:24:51 AM
In the experiment, measurements were made with an ammeter, a voltmeter for alternating current circuits. 
Then there are no options.
Your voltmeter or ammeter or resistor is defective.
Replace with a new one that is known to be good.

Serga solve it, and then yap! Because your "proffesional correctness" is also highly questionable.

I communicate with you absolutely correctly. Why are you using insulting phrases about me and other forum members?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 27, 2023, 10:41:34 AM
Then there are no options.
Your voltmeter or ammeter or resistor is defective.
Replace with a new one that is known to be good.

I communicate with you absolutely correctly. Why are you using insulting phrases about me and other forum members?

I'm not insulting anyone, that's the first thing.
 
If you don't know how to calculate a generator circuit under load, and don't know where the amperage in it comes from, it shows you are educated on the subject. That's what I'm explicitly saying, and I doubt your ability to judge these matters. If that offends you, learn the basics of electrodynamics, electrical engineering. Any electrician who will tune an electrical circuit from an alternator with permanent magnets in the rotor knows this. At any rate, he knows the difference in no-load EMF and voltage under load.
If you measure the drop on the 3 Ohm resistor you will have between 3.8-3.9V. But this is not the voltage network into which this resistor is included in series, because there is also an ammeter with its own resistor and diode bridge, connecting wires and alternator phase winding.


220V or 110V in the AC mains, this is what figure and how it is held. 

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/p/ampere-force.html 
In the material all the details and correctly displayed, what, how and why, conclusions are made.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 27, 2023, 10:48:03 AM
In this case, we are not interested in your generator.

You measure current and voltage across a resistor.
And you claim something like this:
2 + 2 = 10.4
Other forum members assure you that usually:
2 + 2 = 4
You scold them. This is fine?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 27, 2023, 10:57:30 AM
In this case, we are not interested in your generator.

You measure current and voltage across a resistor.
And you claim something like this:
2 + 2 = 10.4
Other forum members assure you that usually:
2 + 2 = 4
You scold them. This is fine?

You can imagine as you like, but the phase of the generator is included in the circuit and forms the current in the circuit.  Even if the source of the battery, the missing volts physicists explain the missing volts by the external action of EMF. Since the current in the circuit cannot form without the absorption of the electric field.

All I can say is that you do not work with real power circuits, and if you do, you are far from understanding what is going on in them.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 27, 2023, 02:45:30 PM
Ohm's formula for a complete circuit: I = E / (R + r)
(!!!! this expression is true for the full conversion of EMF to Current Force)
This formula cannot be applied in its pure form, it does not take the voltage drop into account.
The voltage drop is: Ui = I (R + r)
The amperage will be:  I = Ui / (R + r).
The voltage drop can still be determined by the formula: Ui = E - U, where U is the effective voltage in the circuit or at the terminals of the generator with the load connected. 
The formula for calculating the current in a circuit with a load is: I = (E - U) / (R + r).

SAR
If you work in the energy field, you need to know such elementary things.


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 27, 2023, 10:27:13 PM
Я можу оперувати українською майже так само, як ви, я припускаю, що ви радіоаматор коротковольник
Одного я не розумію . Чому ви не можете розрахувати свою претензію на "надмірне єднання"?
- Вибачте, я думаю, що в українській мові немає  слова, яке б описувало "єдність," (вище)  >1

 Wesley

 ;)

Over Unity  - Понад Єдність

Тлумачення "Єдність"
https://slovnyk.ua/index.php?swrd=%D1%94%D0%B4%D0%BD%D1%96%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C

Тлумачення "Понад"
https://slovnyk.ua/index.php?swrd=%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%B4

"Відношення кількості і міри
5. із знах. в. Уживається при вказуванні на перевищення якої-небудь кількості."

ПС
Мова "таємної масонської ложи" давньоруська (ні російська, бо російську мову придумав Ломоносов)
україньська мова це на 80% та сама давньоруська.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 28, 2023, 10:53:22 AM
The formula for calculating the current in a circuit with a load is: I = (E - U) / (R + r).

 I = (E - U) / (R + r);

(E - U) = I *  (R + r);
I = 1.3 A; R = 3 Ohm; r -> 0;

(E - U) = 1.3 * ( 3 + 0 ) = 3.9 V

This voltage should show a voltmeter. If it shows 10.4 volts, then something in the circuit is faulty or the parameters are not as specified.
If there are difficulties in acquiring good measuring instruments and components, you can use the calorimetric method of measuring energy and power.
All that is needed is a load resistance, a thermally insulated glass jar, a medical thermometer, water and a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAgbknIDKNo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAgbknIDKNo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be50rl-bsMk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be50rl-bsMk)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 28, 2023, 12:40:42 PM
I = (E - U) / (R + r);

(E - U) = I *  (R + r);
I = 1.3 A; R = 3 Ohm; r -> 0;

(E - U) = 1.3 * ( 3 + 0 ) = 3.9 V


Voltmeter on the generator terminals, shows U -10.4V; ammeter in the circuit of the generator winding and resistance shows: I -1.3A; R in the circuit -3 Ohm! Here you calculate, all other missing parameters of this combination: r -?; E -? Ui -?

Another simple problem: In order to get an active load current of one kilowatt, to the connected AC network 220V/50Hz what EMF should be in the phase of the generator, with a conventional resistance of the generator winding of 0 Ohm.

(when you plug the heater into a 220v outlet how does the voltage change in the outlet, why does this happen?)

This question puzzles many engineers, it is one of the reasons why many engineers cannot get jobs in electric machine design offices.



Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on June 28, 2023, 01:39:36 PM


________________________________________

Professor Michael Bank
Despite of what kind of value has his video channel  he is  giving us for free that what could be  turned to money.
So we are not talking about controversy here  but about willingness to share

Some information:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHuDz29PT6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHuDz29PT6w)
Single Line Electrical (SLE) system of Prof. Bank.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscVyLtSk3k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscVyLtSk3k)
One wire three phase system of Michael Bank.ru

This article is published and it is in close relation  to the subject  currently published in sequential parts
 in here :  https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484)

Summary : all at the end will come back to Tesla Coil and energy
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 29, 2023, 09:08:10 AM
Voltmeter on the generator terminals, shows U -10.4V; ammeter in the circuit of the generator winding and resistance shows: I -1.3A; R in the circuit -3 Ohm! Here you calculate, all other missing parameters of this combination: r -?; E -? Ui -?

Another simple problem: In order to get an active load current of one kilowatt, to the connected AC network 220V/50Hz what EMF should be in the phase of the generator, with a conventional resistance of the generator winding of 0 Ohm.
If the voltage of 10.4 volts is the open circuit voltage of the generator, then this must be reported so as not to be misleading.
If the voltmeter shows 10.4 volts and the 3 ohm resistor is disconnected, then this means that the current in the circuit is zero.
The output power in such a circuit is also zero.
To determine the power, it is necessary to measure the voltage and current at the same time, with the load connected.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 29, 2023, 09:30:32 AM
BUNK 
It seems to me that honest people behave somehow differently. 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 29, 2023, 09:36:19 AM
If the voltage of 10.4 volts is the open circuit voltage of the generator, then this must be reported so as not to be misleading.
If the voltmeter shows 10.4 volts and the 3 ohm resistor is disconnected, then this means that the current in the circuit is zero.
The output power in such a circuit is also zero.
To determine the power, it is necessary to measure the voltage and current at the same time, with the load connected.

Sadly, things are not going well at all for you.  The suitability of the profession, you could say zeroed out. The measurements were taken with the load connected. Simultaneous Ammeter and Voltmeter on the alternator creams. Doesn't the figure explain that. You have a problem with elementary knowledge, elementary power circuitry. You don't know how the current in a circuit is formed. For you as well as for most (radio masters) current is electrons. But Ohm's Law itself denies it by dividing the voltage and current into different components. Ask another question, if you turn off the load, open the circuit between the ammeter and the resistor, what voltage will show the voltmeter. I would simply condition the school principal to remove such a teacher from the school.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 29, 2023, 09:45:57 AM
The measurements were taken with the load connected. Simultaneous Ammeter and Voltmeter on the alternator creams. Doesn't the figure explain that. You have a problem with elementary knowledge, elementary power circuitry. You don't know how the current in a circuit is formed. For you as well as for most (radio masters) current is electrons. But Ohm's Law itself denies it by dividing the voltage and current into different components. Ask another question, if you turn off the load, open the circuit between the ammeter and the resistor, what voltage will show the voltmeter. I would simply condition the school principal to remove such a teacher from the school.
rakarskiy, please stop writing this. You disgrace yourself.
A voltmeter cannot show 10.4 volts across a 3 ohm resistor at a current of 1.3 amperes. Impossible. Since I have exhausted all efforts to help you, please consult your local physics teacher.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 29, 2023, 09:53:32 AM
 ;)

The condition of effective power of the motor and the generator must be met: P=IU   

You take an ordinary generator with permanent magnets, with a 1 kW / 220V heater connected, you achieve at the generator terminals - 220V and current for 1 kW. Then open the circuit and watch the voltage on the terminals.

To get the appropriate current in the circuit, at the appropriate voltage in the circuit, the voltage drop across the load resistance must be taken into account. The EMF of the generator will always be greater by the value of the effective mains voltage. So when you measure 220V on the socket terminals and a current of 4.55A for a 1kW load, the EMF of the generator will be greater to the extent that the voltage drop on the load resistance and the circuit elements is greater.

The question is did you not know that?

This condition is mandatory, if you need to charge the battery your EMF voltage must be greater by the amount that will provide the appropriate charging current. Because if the operating voltage falls below the voltage of the battery, it will not be charging, but discharging, taking into account the resistance of the circuit. Then yourself, do radio engineers innovators, ohm's law for the circuit section, so that they do not work out.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Thaelin on June 29, 2023, 10:28:29 AM
This is why I quit reading a lot of threads here. If you have discourse with something, discuss it like adults and bring your proof with you. Try this on Fermi Labs and see what happens.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 29, 2023, 10:45:32 AM
A voltmeter cannot show 10.4 volts across a 3 ohm resistor at a current of 1.3 amperes. Impossible.
Maybe he means that there is also reactance for AC that is added to these three ohms?
Which is about that  he silent.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 29, 2023, 10:54:15 AM
rakarskiy, ...
A voltmeter cannot show 10.4 volts across a 3 ohm resistor at a current of 1.3 amperes. Impossible. Since I have exhausted all efforts to help you, please consult your local physics teacher.

Hello Sergh,
Nice attempt. I also recommend consultation of local physics teacher long ago to rakarskiy. Sadly, he does not.

...
Rakarskiy,
A year or two ago I pointed out your error in applying Ampere's Force Law. But you persist, believing yourself smarter than all the engineers and scientists for the past couple centuries. ...

And there was this:

...
Energy is the derivative of power with respect to time, ...

Hi Rakarskiy,
You got that backwards.
bi

We tried.
bi
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 29, 2023, 11:00:26 AM
Maybe he means that there is also reactance for AC that is added to these three ohms?
He claims a mechanical generator that does not generate megahertz.
In this case, he should write that the 3 ohm load resistor is not an ordinary industrial resistor with a relatively small inductance, but a coil of 1000 turns (for example).
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: bistander on June 29, 2023, 11:14:37 AM
Maybe he means that there is also reactance for AC that is added to these three ohms?
Which is about that  he silent.

He shows a purely resistive load of 3 Ohms.

The problem is rakarskiy just plugs numbers into any old equation without knowledge of meaning of the equation and physics fundamental to the analysis.

And then insults everyone.
bi
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on June 29, 2023, 12:49:20 PM
He shows a purely resistive load of 3 Ohms.

The problem is rakarskiy just plugs numbers into any old equation without knowledge of meaning of the equation and physics fundamental to the analysis.

And then insults everyone.
bi

Quote
Voltage drop is the gradual decrease in voltage along a conductor through which electric current flows, due to the fact that the conductor has an active resistance.   
The formula for calculating the voltage drop is   
dU = IR, where   
dU - voltage drop   
I - current strength   
R is the active resistance   

Quote
Calculating the alternator power to charge the battery.
To calculate the amount of power that the alternator will supply to the battery, you must calculate the amperage in the battery circuit.
According to Ohm's law:
I = U/R+r
Where:
I is the amperage;
U - difference between alternator voltage and battery voltage (U = Ug-Ub)
R + r - resistance of external circuit elements and current source.

Serg, you were right, my condition will be fulfilled at resistance of 8 ohms. But it does not change the essence of the EMF is always greater than the actual voltage in the network with the load. 


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on June 29, 2023, 12:54:47 PM


Professor Michael Bank
Despite of what kind of value has his video channel  he is  giving us for free that what could be  turned to money.
So we are not talking about controversy here  but about willingness to share

Some information:
Jewish  speaking perfect Russian (educated in former Soviet Union)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHuDz29PT6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHuDz29PT6w)
Single Line Electrical (SLE) system of Prof. Bank.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscVyLtSk3k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FscVyLtSk3k)
One wire three phase system of Michael Bank.ru

This article is published and it is in close relation  to the subject  currently published in sequential parts
 in here :  https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484)

Summary : all at the end will come back to Tesla Coil and energy
Wesley


In my opinion in this "single wire" system of Mr. Bank an earth connection is the second wire.
Even if they make "nullifier" by isolating part of the soil from the rest of the ground with insulating foil, as they showed in the experiment- they just created a capacitor.
And as we know capacitors will pass altarnating currents.
And last but not least- if you draw electric field lines from the "single line transmission" of Mr. Bank- they will go towards ground and Poynting vector is directed towards the load.
Without "ground connection" this system will not work.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on June 29, 2023, 01:17:01 PM
I had conversation  with BUNK
Yes -the same Russian guy in the mask and the gloves who presented his device on YouTube some time ago.
He told me his last name too.
more  details later
Wesley
That will be very interesting Stivep.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dsquared18 on June 29, 2023, 02:53:05 PM
This is why I quit reading a lot of threads here. If you have discourse with something, discuss it like adults and bring your proof with you. Try this on Fermi Labs and see what happens.

So right!

D2
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on June 29, 2023, 07:16:17 PM
Any electrician who will tune an electrical circuit from an alternator with permanent magnets in the rotor knows this.


Not Any. :D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on June 30, 2023, 03:20:38 PM
I found two old videos of Kapanadze with high-quality translation into Russian with captions. In YouTube settings, you can turn on the translation of subtitles into English. You must click the gear and select the option to translate subtitles.

Tariel Kapanadze - Disk Generator (with Russian subtitles) 2001

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ)
In the video, the logo of the first television channel of Georgia, the journalist Merab, did not recognize his last name. TV channel website:  https://1tv.ge/ (https://1tv.ge/)

Quick summary of important information:

1. Kapanadze's engine is not a perpetuum mobile.
2. Kapanadze's engine is a gravitational engine.
3. The engine needs an electric generator to power itself. The engine needs electricity from a built-in 10 watt generator for continuous operation.
4. The development of the generator took 20 -25 years. From the date of the video, the beginning of work on the generator is 1976 - 1980. Soviet times.
5. Generator efficiency at least 1 in 1000.
6. The engine uses gravitational energy to run. With the help of gravitational energy, electrical energy is obtained.
7. Tariel does not know engines close in principle. This video shows the 3rd copy of the engine. The first, very small version, gave 1 kilowatt.
The second option was loaded with 40 incandescent lamps of 100 watts each. The output was an alternator.
This displayed 3rd option was created to demonstrate the principle. The axle rotates at 1800 rpm, you can add an overdrive to it and it will be able to turn an ordinary generator at 3000 rpm.
8. There was a hydrogen system, a system for separating water into hydrogen and oxygen, for use in a car. In April of this year, in the Russian magazine "Behind the Rulem" page 174, there was an article that a Filipino made the same system as Tariel's. The Filipino has a contract for 3 million a month that he will build a plant for the production of such devices.
(Tariel found the info about this Filipino from the ordinary magazine "Behind the Wheel" in 2001.
  So the invention of the "car on the water" must be dated earlier than 2001.
https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu (https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu))
9. Kapanadze tried to produce the device at the Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni".
The device was shown to the general director of the Tbilaviamsheni plant Pantiko Tordia:

https://www-nplg-gov-ge.translate.goog/bios/ka/00009998/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en (https://www-nplg-gov-ge.translate.goog/bios/ka/00009998/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en)

Kapa Banka - 28th April 2004 (with Russian subtitles)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI)

1. From a 12 volt to 220 volt converter, 0.4 amperes are consumed at the output, about 100 watts. The light bulbs receive about 5 kilowatts, 50 times more. The generator receives 220 Volts 0.4 amperes, the output is 24 amperes.
2. The device initially worked in a vacuum, it was inconvenient to assemble it into a complete structure. Collected at the factory ("Tbilaviamsheni"?).
There must be a generator and the whole mechanism in a vacuum. The generator was taken out of the vacuum chamber to the outside to make it easier to maintain.
Between the mechanism, which should be in a vacuum, and the generator, an oil seal was installed, which did not let outside air into the vacuum chamber. But the generator got hot. (it is not clear what kind of generator we are talking about, probably transistors on radiators)
Then .. it is not clear .. offended and Tariel left the factory, where was the vacuum chamber? The video is probably shortened here. Tariel took the device with him and was able to make it work without a vacuum. But in a vacuum, the device could generate 2 to 3 times more power.
3. The first generator was for a power of 1 kilowatt.
4. Mamuka Khazaradze invited a scientist - physicist to demonstrate the device.
5. The device does not violate the law of conservation of energy, because it works in a system that has more than 3 dimensions.
6. Ether fills space. All space is filled with energy. "Theory of curved fields"
7. The generator can work without self powering at all, disconnected from the 220 V converter, "by inertia" for a couple of seconds. Strange sound after turning off 220 V. Tariel suggests that this can be used to completely eliminate self powering.

Source:
https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,11560.0.html (https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,11560.0.html)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dsquared18 on June 30, 2023, 03:30:14 PM
Hi Sergh,

I'm confused. Why would you want to eliminate self running?

Cheers,
D2
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: ramset on June 30, 2023, 05:16:42 PM
Toronto is not far from here ( day trip 10 hrs? Long day)
Perhaps Mr.bunk will allow an onsite demonstration?
Quite certain Stefan could support live stream here ?

We desperately need this technology out to the world
Also there is a lab in Toronto area which might assist?
Perhaps a separate thread for this ?
( sorry for spaces in post ,please fix if ? ( hard to plunk on phone)


Note to Sergh
Thanks for videos ( hopefully discussion
EDIT for comment below about language barrier (also proper use of meters actually requires pantomime ( no words)
Even sealed box demonstration is doable with proper measurement equipment at site .
 Ultimately
 Language Not an issue , will just have to arrange proper venue..this is land of immigrants
Also translation technology is certainly available at lab or for live streaming (?)
If bunk is interested he should contact forum owner Hartiberlin to get ball rolling?

As mentioned
World desperately needs this asap …
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on June 30, 2023, 06:46:33 PM

Stivep.
I am not surprised the outcome of your interaction with Mr, Bunk.Do you really think he has something of value? ::)
If he do have alleged US patent, why didn't he show it?
Anyway, if you know his name just check patent database.


Cheers,
Pix
_________________________________
My personal view at Bunk is  absolutely very much like yours.
Wesley


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on June 30, 2023, 07:20:22 PM
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Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on June 30, 2023, 07:49:06 PM
Sorry to interrupt
Much easier to offer a test ( no charge) to Bunk
Especially since he is so close to Lab and also some members for testing.


This type testing has been offered here many many times over the years !
Will help Bunk get tech out to the world!


One and done…
Respectfully
Chet K
Please reach out for Stefan ( Hartiberlin ) did send Stefan a heads up note


Or not ??..his choice
EDIT for comment below ( since removed)
Offer stands for Bunk ,perhaps one of his customers would like lab grade test no charge?( prior to purchase?)
Spare me.
It looks ridiculous begging a con man .
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 09:51:25 AM
...
Kapa Banka - 28th April 2004
...

Sergh thanks for this information.

I have long believed that a current amplifier or something that gives energy is something that is in a vacuum.
A long time ago, someone from Kapanadze's friends wrote that he ordered a glass thing like a glass bubble and paid about $ 400.
Comparing the devices, each weighs over 5 kg, but there is one that is about 2 kg. It's a 2kW board in the room. Surely you have seen this device. There are plastic boxes and it's hard to bear something big and heavy like a transformer. Someone in the video picks up this device and you can see that it is very light. They say it weighs about 2 kg.
ok. There may of course be an HF transformer because my 2kW induction cooker weighs 0.5 kg. It has an operating frequency of 147kHz if you can compare it that way.
However, I lacked proof that the Kapanadze device works in a vacuum! If what has been translated is true, then to my knowledge it will be a special cold cathode vacuum tube. The effect obtained is the dynatron effect, but no one has achieved amplification in the traditional way. This effect is neutralized normally because it harms the electron tube. Manufacturers specifically suppress it as much as they can.

This dynatron effect is free energy for us, but the construction of a mass-produced lamp does not allow to strengthen this effect because the electrons that are knocked out of the cathode weaken when they reach the anode. If the conditions are right, 1 electron will duplicate itself into several more, but their energy will be xN electrons. The problem is that when they break away from the cathode, their energy will decrease. However, there is a design of a vacuum tube that is built to multiply electrons. It is not an electron multiplier! It's a completely different lamp. The design is rather at home such lamps.

It's very possible that the vacuum tube is under the coils in 2004 inside because a magnetic field is needed to keep the electrons away from the anode or the effect will be killed.

I think Kapanadze can use a vaccume tube where electrons multiply.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 09:59:10 AM
There are two types of electromagnetic induction (contact induction and focal induction). There is another type that few people look at, electrostatic induction on the conductor. If CAPAGEN worked, the probability that he tamed the third type of induction in the converter is quite likely. After completing my projects I will deal with just this variant, although I am not sure what exactly in the way it is presented in the device CAPAGEN. Everyone have a good search and experiments!
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 10:10:14 AM
There are two types of electromagnetic induction (contact induction and focal induction). There is another type that few people look at, electrostatic induction on the conductor. If CAPAGEN worked, the probability that he tamed the third type of induction in the converter is quite likely. After completing my projects I will deal with just this variant, although I am not sure what exactly in the way it is presented in the device CAPAGEN. Everyone have a good search and experiments!


See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbHDHiAQrrs

Electrostatic induction has the LENZ effect all the time.

I've done some experiments with this and unfortunately there's always LENZ. In the case of the vacuum tube and the dynatron effect, there is no problem because the effect is to multiply the energy which makes more sense than toying with the energy you have, for example, in a transformer. Everyone thinks that if they arrange the cables in a strange way, it will make more energy. There are powerful transformers for thousands of kVa and no excess energy was found there. At most, surges when a solar storm hits transmission lines.

The cold cathode vacuum tube and dynatron effect has a lot of features for free energy. Even the design of the power supply of such a lamp is almost the same as in the Kapanadze patent. This is very strange. Not many people saw it the way I did.

Making such a lamp is very difficult for a beginner, but easy for people who do it professionally.

I just see how many people want to have electricity from winding coils and they get nothing. Doesn't that make you think! that the coils are only a fragment we need but do not give what we call free energy.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 10:22:54 AM

See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbHDHiAQrrs

 r2fpl
Thanks for the link, I'm glad for the guy that he has an opinion. I'll check my version. By the way, Lenz's law in the original source, defines the direction of the inverse force which generates EMF.   If the current in the conductor is opposite to the direction of the EMF, then how can the magnetic induction of the conductor (its lines of force) be opposite to the direction of the external magnetic lines which produced the EMF? The lines of force of the external flux on one side of the conductor repel the other side attract. The direction of the Ampere force is exactly the same where these lines of force are attracted.  So the modern interpretation of Lenz is a game of cat-and-mouse system.

As soon as there is a current in a conductor with EMF, Lenz's rule will be satisfied.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 10:32:00 AM
rakarskiy

LENZ in my opinion is the same as sawing a board. If there is no movement there is no LEZN, if there is no force on the board there is no LEZN and the board will not be sawn. So you can't saw a board if you don't saw it.
Of course, you can say that a board can be broken, but it will still resist.
Question; how to saw a board without touching the board with the saw?
Of course it's a stupid question because it's not the same as LENZ but just my interpretation. If you don't use tricks of thinking, the analogy is quite good.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 10:40:34 AM
r2fpl

Look, let's accelerate the generator and measure the no-load EMF at the free phase ends.

The EMF is there (E), the magnetic flux is there (ϕ) and the time of flux change is also there (∆t):

E = - ϕ / ∆t

There is no current force and magnetic field around the conductor yet, but Lenz's rule is already satisfied.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 10:46:58 AM
r2fpl

Look, let's accelerate the generator and measure the no-load EMF at the free phase ends.

The EMF is there (E), the magnetic flux is there (ϕ) and the time of flux change is also there (∆t):

E = - ϕ / ∆t

There is no current force and magnetic field around the conductor yet, but Lenz's rule is already satisfied.

Correct. LEZN is always ready if the conditions are met. The interactions are small because the resistance is small, but they are there because the current flows in the conductor.
 The same will be true of electrostatics.

When we don't care about LENZ? when we have energy. That's what I'm talking about. Kapanadze duplicates energy from electrons, or more precisely from photons.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 10:56:27 AM
raarskiy:
I see what you've been doing for a long time and I can learn a lot from you but tell me? did you ever get anything that could be called free energy more than 1W? In fact, my question should be more than 100W because 1W can be obtained from a lemon but that's not what I mean but if we have 10000 lemons it will also probably be 100W :)
Don't answer if you don't want to. I say this because, as I said, we do not know the mechanism for Kapanadze devices and we are trying to find something and adjust it.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 11:35:29 AM
raarskiy:
I see what you've been doing for a long time and I can learn a lot from you but tell me? did you ever get anything that could be called free energy more than 1W? In fact, my question should be more than 100W because 1W can be obtained from a lemon but that's not what I mean but if we have 10000 lemons it will also probably be 100W :)
Don't answer if you don't want to. I say this because, as I said, we do not know the mechanism for Kapanadze devices and we are trying to find something and adjust it.

I see your point, the conversion process in a closed loop (self-propelled systems). Only in electromechanical and inertial accumulator-capacitor. Impulse mode. The problem is the difficulty of driving the flywheel, in those modes where its "kinetic power charge" is interesting. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDexsIqfA6M

An extreme project that I consulted, unfortunately the fate is not known, with the beginning of the barbaric war started by the orcs - who do not remember their kin against my radiant country. The only thing left was to make a system of interval power extraction from the generator. For such power it already revealed the problems of manufacturing the inverter.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 12:12:25 PM
I always wondered, if so many people show it, am I wrong? On the other hand, YT shows millions of responses to free energy where 99.99% is fake.
It's possible that Kapanadze's gravitational device is the same device you show in the video, but I've never tried it. It's hard for me to imagine that the flywheel can support the load or generate excess energy because it's not about that, but the fact that it prolongs the process. The flywheel is nothing more than a large capacitor. Will such a large capacitor change anything in the system for free energy? I don't know but I know that if the diodes are for $ 0.01, the TV does not work :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
I do not know Kapanadze's gravitational device. I know his hydromechanical generator - This is not the same thing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94h8mqnNPg8

Systems with a flywheel, which I show work on the acceleration of the kinetic power for the appropriate mass and diameter measured in Newton meters. Removal is made, only for a short period, then made to acceleration and again removal.

If in this project after acceleration of the system to maintain rotation without withdrawal requires 1.2 kW (from 4 kW engine) The reason why did not come to the idling parameters of the motor in the use of permanent magnets of the generator. Traditionally, I suggest using controlled excitation. At system speed, the flywheel is conditionally charged to 120kW. The 27kW generator is set to take off 25kW for 2 seconds.  At the time of takeoff, the motor power increases to 3.5 kW. It takes 3 seconds to ramp up, averaging 2.7 kW in 5 seconds of operation.    The average withdrawal in a 5 second period will be 10 kW Thus: СОР = 10 kW / 2.7 kW = 3.7

Exactly, this is how the "Earth Engine" from the USA works.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o31neJvF7cA
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 01:06:00 PM
according to Kapanadze it is a gravitational device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ

Receiving energy in any short time does not cause the energy to be the same in the system. It does not convince me. Is there another explanation?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
according to Kapanadze it is a gravitational device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ

Receiving energy in any short time does not cause the energy to be the same in the system. It does not convince me. Is there another explanation?

I do not know this Kapanadze device. Don't like the explanation? that's good, you are free to look for another option.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 01, 2023, 01:22:47 PM
I do not know this Kapanadze device. Don't like the explanation? that's good, you are free to look for another option.

If you confirm it, then enjoy with you, but if it's just another explanation, I'll add it to the long list of wishes.
We're still in the same car, i think.

...
Exactly, this is how the "Earth Engine" from the USA works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o31neJvF7cA

Dennis Danzig - probably embezzled investors' money because he wanted to build more and more devices to have financing.
...

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 01, 2023, 03:02:26 PM
Here is no Lenz. It's just a pity that the resistance is too great.
https://overunity.com/17853/light-pumped-pulsed-power-suply/msg579568/#msg579568 (https://overunity.com/17853/light-pumped-pulsed-power-suply/msg579568/#msg579568)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 01, 2023, 08:48:08 PM
Wesley, this is the expected reaction from BUNK. By the way, all that BUNK knows (when I was introduced to him, he had a different nickname), this unstable young man, he was taught by a Jew, a very good engineer, who, at one time (2012-2015), immigrated from Russia to North America.  This unbalanced young man is likely to be a good liar, and he is also quite determined to make a fuss. Even if he knows something, he will not disclose it. 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 02, 2023, 02:33:50 AM
 Here is another one:

Quote
Sinan ÖZYOLDAŞ
For 14 years, I have been working with angular resonance and I am ready to do the electricity generation
project together with investors who agree to make an official protocol.
Everything will be done openly after the signatures are signed.
But video he attached  contains only this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDuPqSghsn4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDuPqSghsn4)

He posted the message from above in my YouTube.
His picture is  here :
https://www.youtube.com/@sinanozyoldas23 (https://www.youtube.com/@sinanozyoldas23)


as far  as angular resonance here is an article that actually fits   my interest
- Making it important to my study as it talks  about  TE and TM  polarization
Well I call it  TE and TM mode.. but it's OK
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6631114/ (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6631114/)
Article is closely related to :
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11468-020-01272-x (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11468-020-01272-x)

or this: https://accelconf.web.cern.ch/ibic2020/papers/thpp22.pdf
the difference is that I  work with VLF from 10 to 500kHz.

However  this Sinan ÖZYOLDAŞ is nowhere there to be found or even close.
So so far we have  some  guy that used  two  words "angular resonance"
and he wants to make money on it.
Wesley

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 02, 2023, 02:56:26 AM
I googled it:
https://tr.linkedin.com/in/sinan-%C3%B6zyolda%C5%9F-962512241 (https://tr.linkedin.com/in/sinan-%C3%B6zyolda%C5%9F-962512241)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sinanozyol (https://www.linkedin.com/in/sinanozyol) - he looks like different guy .
https://www.instagram.com/p/CL5WF7xsGVs/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CL5WF7xsGVs/)
here is something:
https://www.u-reader.info/2023/04/22/solar-3-0-this-new-technology-could-change-everything/ (https://www.u-reader.info/2023/04/22/solar-3-0-this-new-technology-could-change-everything/)
Apr 22, 2023
Quote
Sinan ÖZYOLDAŞ says: April 22, 2023 at 1:30 pm I am ready to carry out the electricity generation project with angular resonance together with investors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmFVcD-Mbo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmFVcD-Mbo)
but I do not see this  guy on the video
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dzetta on July 04, 2023, 03:33:54 AM
I recreate this device - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-9kNFoRwA0&t=27s
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 03:39:15 AM
Not wireless but one wire still very interested.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM)
excellent  comment.
about Professor Bank and his  "invention"
________________________________________________________
So  at first  the one of the first experiments was  conducted in Israel. 7 years ago.  Technology never  become popular.
Professor Bank created electrical system using 1 wire only.
For that in the quoted  video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TToFYXS3niM)
He delivered 240V single phase  to a  step up 6kV transformer and  than  to 200 m of single wire.
At the other end  of that wire  he connected  step down transformer from 6kV to 240V and than  he connected it with  one side to  a lightbulb (100W 240V)
and the other side with  isolated  packet of ground  by  plastic foil

As a second wire he used  that isolated  ground from  both sides calling it  artificial ground .
 and his claim was that he is not using any second wire at all as the packets are insulated/isolated.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 03:39:46 AM
Member of Russian Academy of science professor Bank
excellent idea had few flaws,
Despite of it he came to even better idea little later of having 3 phase system over  single wire .
But that I'll explain later .

__________________________________________________________

With all do respect  I understand  that soviet education  although  excellent than, - ended  in 1990 along with Soviet Union
crumbling down into another bottom manifesting its  disintegration, dissolution, decay, decomposition, rot, breakdown, putrefaction, spoilage;
After many years of Russian scientists soviet comfort they finally didn't have to deliver and match the new standards
and  new forms of understanding. They were just paid for being there, often more than  few hundreds dollars a month .
So major flow in this system is that professor Bank  didn't understand that  soil  divided by piece of plastic (dielectric) from the rest of the ground  creates capacitor .
And Capacitor conducts AC. His explanation  of phenomena in question was absolutely wrong.
But the system works.
If he  decided to   use regular ground instead it would work as well.

More will be later.

 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 04, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
Improved translation:

Tariel Kapanadze - Disk Generator (with Russian subtitles) 2001 year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ)
In the video, the logo of the 1TV television channel of Georgia:  https://1tv.ge/ (https://1tv.ge/)

Briefly about the main things:

1. Kapanadze's engine is not a perpetuum mobile.
2. Kapanadze's engine is a gravitational engine.
3. The engine needs electricity from a built-in 10 watt generator for continuous operation.
4. The development of the generator took 20 -25 years. From the date of the video, the beginning of work on the generator is 1976 - 1980. Soviet times.
5. Generator efficiency at least 1 to 1000.
6. The engine uses gravitational energy. Gravitational energy generates electrical energy.
7. Kapanadze did not find similar engines from other inventors. In this video Kapanadze shows the 3rd version of the engine. The first, very small version, gave 1 kilowatt.
The second version was loaded with 40 incandescent lamps of 100 watts each.
This displayed 3rd version was created to demonstrate the basic principles of engine.
8. The axle of this engine rotates at 1800 rpm, you can add an overdrive to it and it will be able to turn an ordinary generator at 3000 rpm.
9.  Kapanadze talks about his other invention, "water powered auto". In April 2001, in the Russian magazine "Behind the Wheel" on page 174, is article about a Filipino (Daniel Dingel),  who invented a similar water powered auto. According to Kapanadze, this Filipino has a contract for 3 million a month that he will build a plant for the production of such devices for China.
There is link to this magazine article, in russian: https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu (https://www.zr.ru/archive/zr/2001/04/avtoprobieg-na-lunu))
10. Kapanadze tried to produce the device at the Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni".
The device was shown to the general director of this plant  Pantiko Tordia, link to translated personal page about this man:

https://www-nplg-gov-ge.translate.goog/bios/ka/00009998/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en (https://www-nplg-gov-ge.translate.goog/bios/ka/00009998/?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en)

Kapa Banka - 28th April 2004 (with Russian subtitles)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI)

1. This device consumed 0.4 amperes from a 12 volt to 220 volt inventer, about 100 watts. The light bulbs receive about 5 kilowatts, 220V 24 amperes, 50 times more.
2. The device initially worked in a vacuum, therefore, it was inconvenient to assemble it into a finished structure. First assembled at the factory ("Tbilaviamsheni"?).
Initially, the generator and the entire mechanism was located in a vacuum. The generator was taken out of the vacuum chamber to the outside for ease of maintenance, because it often became faulty.
Between the mechanism, which should be in a vacuum, and the outside generator, an oil seal was installed, which did not let outside air into the vacuum chamber. But the generator often overheated. (it is not clear what kind of generator we are talking about, probably transistors on radiators)
Then .. it is not clear .. Kapanadze offended and  left the factory, where was the vacuum chamber. The video is probably shortened here. Tariel took the device with him and was able to make it work without a vacuum. But in a vacuum, the device could generate 2 to 3 times more power.
3. The first generator was for a power of 1 kilowatt.
4. Mamuka Khazaradze invited a scientist - physicist to demonstrate the device. The scientist was skeptical and did not accept the device without explaining the principle from  Kapanadze.
5. The device does not violate the law of conservation of energy, because it works in a system that has more than 3 dimensions.
6. Ether fills space. All space is filled with energy. "Theory of curved fields"
7. The generator (only the coil!) can work without initiating powering at all, without spark, absolutely disconnected from the 220 V converter, "by inertia" for a couple of seconds. Strange sound after turning off 220 V. Tariel suggests that this can be used to completely eliminate power from the output to self powering.

In YouTube settings, you can turn on the translation of subtitles into English. You must click the gear and select the option to translate subtitles.
Source:
https://mazeto-net.translate.goog/index.php/topic,11560.0.html (https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,11560.0.html)

A long time ago, someone from Kapanadze's friends wrote that he ordered a glass thing like a glass bubble and paid about $ 400.
I wonder why a glass bubble is so expensive. Probably something professional for vacuum work, or custom made.

There may of course be an HF transformer because my 2kW induction cooker weighs 0.5 kg. It has an operating frequency of 147kHz if you can compare it that way.

Yes, he probably uses high frequency. But why is the output of his devices only 50 hertz AC? And where do we not see any complex rectifiers and unformers for 220 V 50 Hz at 5 kilowatts? It would be a very noticeable addition to the device. Somehow the RF initiation creates 50 Hz directly, in the oscillator itself, without diodes or transistors.

However, I lacked proof that the Kapanadze device works in a vacuum! If what has been translated is true, then to my knowledge it will be a special cold cathode vacuum tube. The effect obtained is the dynatron effect, but no one has achieved amplification in the traditional way. This effect is neutralized normally because it harms the electron tube. Manufacturers specifically suppress it as much as they can.

I think Kapanadze can use a vaccume tube where electrons multiply.

I'm sorry, but the so-called "dynatron effect" corresponds to the term "secondary electron emission".
There is a kind of devices that work on this effect. They are designed optimally for this effect.
These devices are called "photomultiplier tubes":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photomultiplier_tube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photomultiplier_tube)
These detectors multiply the current produced from first innitiating electrons by as much as 100 million times!
You can buy this devices cheap on the secondary market.
But examples of the use of photomultipliers as great energy sources have not been noticed.
By themselves, electrons do not produce energy. Energy is produced by the directed movement of electrons. The presence of electrons only improves conductivity.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 04, 2023, 11:41:27 AM
To everyone and Wesley:

I do not insist on my own, I do not demand to do anything that I want.
I just suggest doing what is more productive in the given situation.
Why try to contact angry random people?

In my latest find, there are at least 3 specific contact persons, and one specific organization:
1. Journalist of the 1TV channel. First name: Merab, Last name: not found. Worked in 2001 on the first channel of Georgian TV. Organized filming of a video about Kapanadze's devices. You can write to the contacts of the site of the 1TV  channel with a request to provide additional information or contact details of the journalist. Maybe he will say something. Or at least we will know his opinion about Kapanadze.
https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/ (https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/)
2. General director of the Tbilaviamsheni plant Pantiko Tordia
It is difficult of course, he is already 88 years old. But maybe relatives or friends will be able to add something or take part in the discussion.
3. Mamuka Khazaradze - his role in the affairs of Kapanadze is not clear. Probably a friend or assistant. Probably hard to find something about him.
4. Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni"
It is also difficult, more than 20 years have passed. But maybe suddenly there are participants in those events who can report something important. Especially after so many years they will not feel bound by any obligations.
https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/ (https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/)
Why can't I do it myself?
I'm not the socialized type. It's hard for me to communicate with people I don't know. In addition, I will not represent their interest as a potential investor from the US or other Western countries.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 12:54:08 PM
To everyone and Wesley:

I do not insist on my own, I do not demand to do anything that I want.
I just suggest doing what is more productive in the given situation.
Why try to contact angry random people?

In my latest find, there are at least 3 specific contact persons, and one specific organization:
1. Journalist of the 1TV channel. First name: Merab, Last name: not found. Worked in 2001 on the first channel of Georgian TV. Organized filming of a video about Kapanadze's devices. You can write to the contacts of the site of the 1TV  channel with a request to provide additional information or contact details of the journalist. Maybe he will say something. Or at least we will know his opinion about Kapanadze.
https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/ (https://1tv.ge/lang/en/organization/contact/)
2. General director of the Tbilaviamsheni plant Pantiko Tordia
It is difficult of course, he is already 88 years old. But maybe relatives or friends will be able to add something or take part in the discussion.
3. Mamuka Khazaradze - his role in the affairs of Kapanadze is not clear. Probably a friend or assistant. Probably hard to find something about him.
4. Tbilisi Aviation Plant "Tbilaviamsheni"
It is also difficult, more than 20 years have passed.
But maybe suddenly there are participants in those events who can report something important.
Especially after so many years they will not feel bound by any obligations.
https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/ (https://tam.ge/eng/contact-us-en/)
Why can't I do it myself?
I'm not the socialized type. It's hard for me to communicate with people I don't know. In addition,
I will not represent their interest as a potential investor from the US or other Western countries.
I know  Mamuka  personally and rest of the crew.
We had nice time during Tariel recovery  after  Russian poisoning
 in Tbilisi. He was taking me  with his car  to many places there .
I'm interested in science and its phenomena not with ownership or production.
Wesley 


 

 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 04, 2023, 02:37:22 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrmPwny6bQ)1. Kapanadze's engine is a gravitational engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI)
2. The device does not violate the law of conservation of energy, because it works in a system that has more than 3 dimensions.
3. Ether fills space. All space is filled with energy. "Theory of curved fields"
What do you think Kapanadze was talking about?

Is free energy so important or is there something more important?
"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."

Quote
Harold “Sonny” White, a NASA researcher at the Eagleworks Laboratory in Houston, Texas, published a research paper with his team in July about the “possible structure of the energy density present in a Casimir cavity.” According to the report, the Eagleworks team came across “a micro/nano-scale structure … that predicts negative energy density distribution that closely matches requirements for the Alcubierre metric.

https://coffeeordie.com/alcubierre-white-warp-drive (https://coffeeordie.com/alcubierre-white-warp-drive)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpV_0Oi7lk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phpV_0Oi7lk)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHj_pvEYYE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTHj_pvEYYE)

Wesley, I'm not asking you for anything for me personally. Only for all. No hidden communication. There's no reason for you to trust me or not to trust me, it doesn't change anything.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 04:50:06 PM
There may of course be an HF transformer because my 2kW induction cooker weighs 0.5 kg. It has an operating frequency of 147kHz if you can compare it that way.

here it is look at the pictures :
strictly related to  5 parts  of educational material from  here
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484)
more parts is coming
Frequency of operation~10Hz to 500kHz and than 5MHz
SWR and Power measurement and processing  included.
All  of these devices do not require external power  from the outlet to operate in the field .
As they are made to be a field  work devices.
Actually  I can go with this all away down to  7.83 Hz Schumann fundamental frequency .
By that I mean -you possibly can't but I can.. little modification required.

The instrument on the left costs new over 8k with  all additional  separately paid options.
For these interested it is a must to know what specific models  of the devices to  acquire.
In other words  not all of products of this manufacturer are applicable to  our experiments.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 04, 2023, 05:26:28 PM


Tariel was an alcoholic, not able to   react at right level.

What do you think Kapanadze was talking about?

Is free energy so important or is there something more important?
"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."

Tariel was an alcoholic... Tariel was an alcoholic. Wait!  Here lies the key to its design!!!
Don't you see the clue to his hydraulic motor ? Kapanadze's hydraulic engine had beer instead of water !  :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 07:15:47 PM
More pictures from  the entire set.
All of it will be covered in my topic in the builders board starting  from here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg579484/#msg579484)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 07:46:09 PM
 This is very special addition  to  the devices.
It is an attenuator that was  originally made to   work with 240V  to 340 Vp and now  works up to  6kV
That was the most difficult part  of  measurement  for most of  experimenters in real time.
Yes we can apply VNA too  especially inexpensive one but  it is passive (- used at no power  measurement) and 99% of them doesn't go down below9kHz., while this set of devices allows to
actively monitor and adjust  parameters  including  impedance matching  of Kapanadze like device and  Dr James Corum energy transfer.
Mismatch of impedances is most likely the major  explanation  for  experimenters   failure   in addition to
their ignorance  with understanding of  a simple  physics phenomena and processes  taking place  there.
I  explained it many times as this is what I do.- physics but   I have no control over someone's willingness to read.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 08:08:55 PM
later on I will probably delete  these pictures  from here as I will need the audience to concentrate on
builders board topic. So for whom it is important  make copy of it now.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 04, 2023, 11:17:57 PM
For Stefan in response to  PM.
I don't know  if material submitted  by you is
permissible for publishing so  here is my quick answer .
I didn't have time to  view it fully.
IT IS A HOLIDAY  TIME TODAY - Independence Day 4th of July in USA.
Tomorrow starts my #2 lab day work so I'm preoccupied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK73vjfqPig (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK73vjfqPig)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZuSZYVBng (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubZuSZYVBng)
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/649427/multipoint-impedance-matching-to-rf-plasma (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/649427/multipoint-impedance-matching-to-rf-plasma)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science 20plasma%20is%20ignited% (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168900221001339#:~:text=When%20the%20plasma%20is%20ignited%2C%20the%20variation%20of,as%20the%20plasma%20absorbed%20power%20P%20p%20e.)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: onepower on July 05, 2023, 12:57:00 AM
stivep
I think the 2 ohm resistance of the plasma gap is misleading and more an artifact relating to how we measure things.

How do we measure resistance?. Ohms law states R=V/I thus if the electron current radiated free electrons from the plasma gap
and we know it does then a decreasing electron current would appear as an increase in R.
So what were probably measuring as resistance is in fact an energy loss due to the radiation of energy/charges within the gap.

It's problematic because most falsely assume most systems are closed and the only loss relates to heat (atoms jiggling)
not the radiation of charged particles. That is particles which carry a charge with them constituting a current radiating
 perpendicular to the primary path of conductance.

Here we need to focus on the primary cause of any given effect not artifacts like lump sum/averages after the fact.
In fact I don't measure voltage or resistance per say in most of my HV experiments because it's misleading.
I measure the electric field strength or potential with an electrometer at multiple points and use the actual
difference in potential to determine a loss or gain. What is voltage?, it's a difference in potential, but why,
when and where did the actual difference evolve?.

It begs the question, what is it you presume your measuring versus what is actually happening within the circuit?.
If energy and charged particles leave the circuit proper how would this effect our measurements?.
It's not as simple as many suppose in my opinion.

AC
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 05, 2023, 01:20:31 AM
A variety of zeolites in Tbilisi, the city where Kapanadze lived:
https://iznedr-ru.translate.goog/books/item/f00/s00/z0000000/st002.shtml?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 05, 2023, 01:28:30 AM
stivep
I think the 2 ohm resistance of the plasma gap is misleading and more an artifact relating to how we measure things.
I included link and you didn't review the link . Here is a quote:
Quote
The original design of impedance transformer based on the assumption that the plasma equivalent resistance is about 1 ohm,
while it was measured to be 2 ohm. The measuring method is described in Section 3.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168900221001339#:~:text=When%20the%20plasma%20is%20ignited%2C%20the%20variation%20of,as%20the%20plasma%20absorbed%20power%20P%20p%20e.)
You may  also  look at other links
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 05, 2023, 02:13:49 AM
stivep
In fact I don't measure voltage or resistance per say in most of my HV experiments because it's misleading.
I measure the electric field strength or potential with an electrometer at multiple points and use the actual
difference in potential to determine a loss or gain. What is voltage?, it's a difference in potential, but why,
when and where did the actual difference evolve?.
AC
you mean this:
 I have several of them  brand new never used in wooden box - mine comparing to the one on eBay is also up to 30kV
s9&amdata=enc% (https://www.ebay.com/itm/254538748000?hash=item3b43b11060:g:ntkAAOSwxR1eH4s9&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0C7GFLH4%2FlL%2BG2lFJFGT18%2BDWwUl7G3dhsKXNVYYl%2FG%2BEw3liRc6BXBBW0hlbojVtONf27dWL1CmTlXKuItVfc641%2BOSKbAwyiKDECmxji%2FyD8hirh8jk5jBGMuTznIMbMyYaxPHFD%2B6MfQv5UoWPjL0P5QA9%2FEv3hXr5%2BuHATgY8BM2dq4afQm4vsyBUK0%2B%2F01vo4MDJe9aKqoeDl9TcU6%2Bh0fMsy%2FoiiSaF%2BVE%2F5SohU72U75I79hjMlVccod0xBnKENlSAa%2BBVjPdVz8rH8Q%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9rDm7akYg)
I have 4th of July holiday today  so I gave  you short answer. I didn't even make  pictures  of my actual units.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 05, 2023, 11:46:29 AM


Tariel was an alcoholic, not able to   react at right level.

Yes.  Many people know this.  Was he a believer in God ?  Christian ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 05, 2023, 01:48:17 PM
Tariel was an alcoholic, not able to   react at right level.
Yes.  Many people know this.  Was he a believer in God ?  Christian ?
Well, let's say Wesley doesn't know.
But are you aware of the traditions of the Georgian feast?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supra_(feast (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supra_(feast))

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_wine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_wine)

I would not accept Tariel's alcoholism, as this is not typical for Georgians.
It could have been said by someone as a compliment, with the hidden meaning that he was not unhealthy.
In 2001, when Kapanadze was talking about the gravitational motor, which had been under development for 25 years, since 1976, Tariel was in good health.
When he finally  decided to cooperate it was to late.- the sponsor date  of response past by.
He couldn't understand that in  western world  things works by date.
Wesley
Unpunctuality is a feature of the people of many countries with a warm tropical climate. ;D
It was necessary to learn about this feature and plan events with tolerance.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on July 05, 2023, 02:26:23 PM
Hi Wesley and Fabon, please stop the fighting...
We should behave each, also if you have different political views..
Over here we concentrate on  Open Source Free Energy Research, please...
Many thanks for your understanding.
Regards, Stefan. ( Admin)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on July 05, 2023, 05:54:26 PM
PLease Stop teasing Wesley and let all Antisemitic stuff out of this forum !!!


As it is illegal in Germany, where I reside, I can get into big trouble...
So I will ban everybody who will try to harm the forum this way !!
Otherwise, if you have a working technology and want to report about it, you can get a builders board and be there your own moderator...
But PLEASE leave all the political stuff out of it !!
We want peace and no war.

Many thanks for understanding !

Regards. Stefan. ( Admin)


I love all nations! May everyone be happy - Peace!
I just - teased Wesley like that, but it was without any malice from me! All in the past!

Wesley is now trying to push the admin to remove Mr Bunk!

The administrator is a wise and very smart person!
Great happiness when such a generous administrator!!!

All - Regards!
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 05, 2023, 07:55:36 PM
For me doing it again, going to Tbilisi,  risking my life again, with  more Russians
over my head hunting me, and  relocation, transportation of Tariel  device  as they are in war now,
- it doesn't make sense .

I  have one life and I survived one  of  "some" Russians poisoning  in  2011 together with Tariel , and  than three attempts  or threats latter one.
For me to do it again I would need to have  real strong motivation.
It never mind to me. Nobody wants my life. They will kill means kill.  :)
Will you send me a business trip ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-m909Y6qE&pp=ygUp0LAg0LzQvtGPINC20LjQt9C90Ywg0LHQtdGB0L_Qu9Cw0YLQvdCw0Y8%3D (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LY-m909Y6qE&pp=ygUp0LAg0LzQvtGPINC20LjQt9C90Ywg0LHQtdGB0L_Qu9Cw0YLQvdCw0Y8%3D)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 05, 2023, 08:00:59 PM
I'm sorry I will not.
Contacts are private and important.
Security of key people who can still deliver  is  important.
If I need I can  still go there  till I think  it is worth it.
But I'm sure   there are guys here who will sponsor your trip
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 06, 2023, 10:46:43 AM
It never mind to me. Nobody wants my life.
Will you send me a business trip ?
No, that won't work. It is not known what kind of people are in contact with Wesley and whether they have any knowledge about this.

Wesley may have a false vision of how the device works, formed by swindlers posing as Kapanadze's associates.

We will accept only what the early Kapanadze said in his first "family videos", the oldest videos intended for his family and his small country.

Theses of Tariel Kapanadze from first videos:

1. Gravity engine.
FROM AI:
Quote
Quantum gravity is a theoretical framework that seeks to describe the force of gravity according to the principles of quantum mechanics. In classical physics, gravity is described by Einstein’s theory of general relativity, which describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of mass and energy. However, general relativity is incompatible with quantum mechanics, which describes the behavior of matter and energy at very small scales. Quantum gravity seeks to reconcile these two theories and provide a consistent description of gravity at all scales.

Quantum gravity is still a very active area of research and there is much that is not yet understood. One of the main challenges in developing a theory of quantum gravity is that gravity is a very weak force compared to the other fundamental forces of nature, such as electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces. This makes it difficult to observe the effects of quantum gravity directly. However, there are several proposed theories of quantum gravity, including string theory, loop quantum gravity, and causal dynamical triangulation.

String theory is a theory that attempts to unify all the fundamental forces and particles of nature by postulating that the basic constituents of matter are tiny vibrating strings of energy. String theory also predicts the existence of extra dimensions of space beyond the usual three. Loop quantum gravity is a theory that attempts to quantize spacetime itself by describing it as a network of discrete loops of quantum gravity. Loop quantum gravity also predicts that spacetime has a smallest possible unit of length, called the Planck length. Causal dynamical triangulation is a theory that attempts to model the quantum behavior of spacetime by using a computer simulation that constructs spacetime from simple building blocks called simplices. Causal dynamical triangulation also predicts that spacetime has a fractal structure at small scales.
Haisch and Moddel patent:
https://www.mdpi.com/2218-2004/7/2/51Physicists (https://www.mdpi.com/2218-2004/7/2/51Physicists)
Create Light From Nothingness:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/11/17/physicists-create-light-from-nothingness/ (https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2011/11/17/physicists-create-light-from-nothingness/)

2. Energy from interaction with other dimensions.

FROM AI:
Quote
Can space in another dimension differ in entropy from ours?
Yes, it is possible for space in another dimension to differ in entropy from ours. The entropy of a system is a measure of the number of ways that system can be arranged while still maintaining the same macroscopic properties. The entropy of a system can be increased by adding energy to it or by increasing the number of ways the system can be arranged. Therefore, it is possible for the entropy of space in another dimension to differ from ours.

3. "Theory of curved fields"
FROM AI:
Quote
Quantum field theory in curved spacetime (QFTCS) is an extension of quantum field theory from Minkowski spacetime to a general curved spacetime. This theory treats spacetime as a fixed, classical background, while giving a quantum-mechanical description of the matter and energy propagating through that spacetime
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: AlienGrey on July 06, 2023, 02:47:40 PM
Requests for personal data by third unknown party requests,

Most of if not all use spy ware accessing your data
if your working with personal finance on the internet
you could be at risk from personality theft..
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 07, 2023, 08:27:48 AM
At least,any way,you could help to good man. e.g. me.
And thereby improve your karma. :P
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 07, 2023, 11:14:18 AM
Few days later you  already forgot details
but I did spend  my time and money to make experiments , buy equipment and  make comment here.
;D
Working days, evenings. Not all about this is included.
...day xxx (not sure)
The syringes were replaced with a hydraulic cylinder. The hydraulic cylinder had to be disassembled after purchase, cleaned of conservation grease, cleaned of rust, lubricated with oil. Screwed on the handle. Not convenient, but creates a vacuum very well. Pure vacuum without oil aerosol. Another experiment went well with him. Hmm, there is a youtube video of office chairs exploding due to the compression of oil vapors with air in the lifting mechanism.  The principle of a diesel engine. What about with HHO?  :D Something I'm afraid of the hydraulic cylinder, but probably in vain, it works not for compression but for rarefaction and the concentration is still very low. Nothing will happen.  :-\
...day xxx+1
very successful, but the efficiency is low, not suitable for practical use. Needs to be improved.
...day xxx+3
The equipment has been improved, fresh zeolite is filled up. unsuccessfully, :(
...day xxx+4
The equipment has been improved. Control test without zeolite. Not bad.
...day xxx+5
a package arrived with an old induction RF generator, but without a power supply. I made a power supply, the generator works. But it is not suitable for the current experiment, because the discharge in the tube does not glow.  :( Strange. Set this generator aside for the time being.
...day xxx+7
Again with fresh zeolite, very bad,  >:( the reason is not clear.
...day xxx+8
I bought a couple of diaphragm pumps at a flea market. Hmm, they're probably from old oxygen concentrators, one smeared inside with zeolite. I hope there is no coronavirus inside. Cleaned everything up with spirit and replaced valves. The pumps working, but the vacuum is not enough for my experiments.  :( Put the pumps aside.
...day xxx+10
The equipment has been changed. Bad, absolutely nothing, :-X it is not clear why. Sensor test, 2 out of 3 are good. One, "new" from the store, incorrect output voltage, does not respond, has minor mechanical damage, so it is probably faulty.  :(
I looked for something new on the internet about Kapanadze, found a couple of video translations, just on the topic.
...day xxx+14
due to the increased power, the glass burns out, but I can't replicate what worked three weeks ago, searched the internet, nothing.  >:( Assumed maybe something practically useful will be written on the forum. As usual, nothing happens. Found about the crystals of Tbilisi. Interesting. Posted a link with auto-translation on the forum.
...day xxx+15
the glass insulator burned out again, the vacuum is not maintained.  :(
If only someone could post something useful on the forum. Nothing but squabbles.
re-read one important patent, there is probably another factor that could be the cause of the failures, I need to mount everything back and try.
...day xxx+16 (not sure)
Due to attempts to increase power and reduce the duration of the pulses, the transistors burned out, it’s not a big problem, there are a lot of all sorts of mosfets in a box, but there aren’t just such transistors, you have to go to the store.  :( All the time I want to sleep, on autopilot, more coffee. Wesley on the forum writes about the hard life. Could he write something on the topic? Memoirs about Kapanadze? Maybe it would increase the number of visitors.  :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 07, 2023, 01:56:47 PM
The syringes were replaced with a hydraulic cylinder. The hydraulic cylinder had to be disassembled after purchase, cleaned of conservation grease, cleaned of rust, lubricated with oil. Screwed on the handle.
One of my acquaintances, also a fan of a perpetual motion machine, bought a Komovsky pump at the acceptance of scrap metal.  It was thrown out of the Soviet school.  Always dreamed of this.
Good thing.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 07, 2023, 03:00:26 PM
Komovsky pump
Good thing.
Yes, maybe, but such a pump with oil filling. I already have a two-stage rotary vacuum pump with a motor. The problem is the oil aerosol at the exit. I installed a filter from the air compressor at the pump outlet, but some oil vapor passes through the filter.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 07, 2023, 09:26:35 PM
And sound wave,especially ultrasonic is creating  zones high and low  pressure in gas.
Could this used ? In addition, it penetrates into any caverns of zeolites.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 16, 2023, 09:04:06 PM
Here is  a  very simple patent application originally  posted in another forum by Forest.
Its simplicity  is  absolutely uncommon.
If I understood properly it was filed by child
with  big  help of parents to file patent application
Receiver device of energy from the earth and its atmosphere
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en#legalEvents (https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en#legalEvents)

update:
I was shocked  with the simplicity of the design.
Why nobody come with that  before including me?
So at first look  few minutes at this video and I  explain the patent in my next comment.
https://youtu.be/2rVdEhyMR6A?t=26



Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 16, 2023, 09:28:31 PM
it was filed by child
with  big  help of parents to file patent application
Receiver device of energy from the earth and its atmosphere
https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en#legalEvents (https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en#legalEvents)

update:
I was shocked  with the simplicity of the design.
Why nobody come with that  before including me?
So at first look  few minutes at this video
https://youtu.be/2rVdEhyMR6A?t=26

So looking at  the patent application:
I didn't read it yet - I think no need for me to do it)
Every 1m=~3ft there is potential between  Earth and Ionosphere increasing  100V/m
So at the  level  of the head of 2m tall guy there is 200V between Earth and  his head.
Every bird flies at the potential  of ~few thousands V
But if you walking on the earth you are grounded- or becoming  part of the ground including all buildings  mountains  and so on..
So it looks like you'll never be able to   get electricity out of it.
So what if  you introduce the switch.. isolating from the ground. ??? ??? ??
wow....
I'm wowing at the concept not at the outcome.
Here below is the  entire schematic of the device 
Wesley

addition: tnx to lankaIV contribution:
https://robertmichaellyden.com/ (https://robertmichaellyden.com/)
-it looks like it is his parents  site.
-it looks like this is what they are at.
was that this child?
https://d10j3m (https://d10j3mvrs1suex.cloudfront.net/s:bzglfiles/u/552148/5651d97622e84dc5f8bd23134d35ffaaa53f886e/original/rob-and-kieran-santa-monica.jpg/!!/b%3AW1sic2l6ZSIsInBob3RvIl1d/meta%3AeyJzcmNCdWNrZXQiOiJiemdsZmlsZXMifQ%3D%3D.jpg)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dsquared18 on July 17, 2023, 02:02:51 AM
Robert Murray-Smith tried this out 4 months ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrhzkCZ5xf8&t=82s

D2
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 17, 2023, 06:17:02 PM
Thank you very much lankaIV for your contribution:
'Child Applications ' ,// expression 'Child' as ' virtual subject' to understand ,not an human person !
https://www.thoughtstopaper.com/blog/what-is-a-child-patent-application-continuation-and-divisional-patent-applications/ (https://www.thoughtstopaper.com/blog/what-is-a-child-patent-application-continuation-and-divisional-patent-applications/)
//OCWL
p.s.:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19571112&CC=US&NR=2813242A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19571112&CC=US&NR=2813242A&KC=A#)
and ' Citing documents '
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=2813242A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19571112&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/citingDocuments?CC=US&NR=2813242A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19571112&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 17, 2023, 09:31:10 PM
Wesley:  Do you have any handwritten Kapanadze writings?
I need to compare it with a diagram that Kapanadze may have drawn.

Some of you have seen it but I wonder who the author is.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 08:46:14 AM
stivep:  Do you have any handwritten Kapanadze writings?
Are you prepared enough?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_scripts
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 09:04:47 AM
Are you prepared enough?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_scripts

Could he write in Russian? because, as you can see in the movies, he speaks Russian.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
Thank you very much lankaIV for your contribution:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/originalDocument?CC=US&NR=2813242 (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=11&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19571112&CC=US&NR=2813242A&KC=A#)

 1. This implementation makes sense mainly for long waves or medium waves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_wave)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbUhA6Vt6Sk
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbUhA6Vt6Sk)
2. Transmitters for longwaves or mediumwaves are currently being demolished everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72Ip6DROdc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72Ip6DROdc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2CvQBnOHvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2CvQBnOHvo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq1Q8LXIAJk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq1Q8LXIAJk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18INKRJBAsw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18INKRJBAsw)

3. A large properly sized antenna is required. A large antenna means a wire several tens of meters long, stretched at a considerable height and correctly oriented relative to the transmitter.

4. Electricity output is very small. 0.0x watts, unless the multi-kilowatt transmitter is 5 kilometers away. The energy will be enough to power the receiver with low power consumption. In such devices, it is recommended to use loudspeakers with high sensitivity in order to get sound that is audible without headphones.

5. It is possible to connect to this source a low-power devices, such as LCD clocks, etc.

6. This source is much more efficient:
https://www.alibaba.com/premium/mono_solar_panel_500w.html (https://www.alibaba.com/premium/mono_solar_panel_500w.html)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 09:40:56 AM
Could he write in Russian? because, as you can see in the movies, he speaks Russian.
I am not russian.
According to the rules of this forum I can not write in Russian. I respect the community.

In Georgia, if you are especially respected, they speak Russian among themselves, although this creates additional difficulties for them.
Can you speak Georgian in your family if a guest from Georgia comes to you?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 09:59:31 AM
I am not russian.
According to the rules of this forum I can not write in Russian. I respect the community.

In Georgia, if you are especially respected, they speak Russian among themselves, although this creates additional difficulties for them.
Can you speak Georgian in your family if a guest from Georgia comes to you?

I don't understand what you want to tell me.
If I know Chinese, I can converse in Chinese.
We don't have to converse in Russian and it's not desirable here except to quote original texts in any language. Only original lyrics don't distort words if you can read it. This is obvious.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on July 18, 2023, 10:02:32 AM
The Lloyd Crump priority date ? 1954 ! We are now in 2023,with many IoT-milliWatt -devices !
Comercial solar panels efficiency 1954 and price per Wp ?
Tate ambiental energy harvester ? Output ?
http://rexresearch.com/tate/tate.htm (http://rexresearch.com/tate/tate.htm)  MilliWatts !
Is H.A.A.R.P. only emittive or also a receiver and converter ?

electronic devices their size 1950' in mass production  ? Millimeter,Micrometer

Today : f.e. http://www.novasolix.com/technology (http://www.novasolix.com/technology)
The technology is based on the rectifying antenna (rectenna), which is used in radio frequency identification (RFID) tags used to track and identify objects. A rectenna harvests ambient wireless electromagnetic energy through an antenna that is attached to rectifying diodes. RFIDs power themselves with received energy put out by scanners. NovaSolix aims to tune CNTs to the sun’s full spectrum output to collect a broad portion of energy.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9917217B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US9917217B2/en)
http://www.novasolix.com/vision (http://www.novasolix.com/vision)
There is another way to convert light energy into electricity. Instead of viewing light as photons, light can be viewed as waves of electromagnetic radiation—just like radio waves only at a much higher frequency. The key is to making little antennae which are roughly ¼ the wavelength of light – this captures the energy as a very high frequency alternating current and then to use a diode to convert the alternating current into usable direct current.  Each tiny antenna is roughly 1 micron or 1/10,000,000th of a meter long and made from a carbon nanotube. At one end of the antenna is a diode which can operate at frequencies approach 1 PHz or 1 quadrillion cycles per second. By contrast, AM radios operate at frequencies in low megahertz or roughly a million cycles per second and ideal antennas are roughly a meter long. The difference is a factor of one billion.


Wireless transfer ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910423&CC=US&NR=5009243A&KC=A# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=3&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19910423&CC=US&NR=5009243A&KC=A#)
The present invention is directed to a solar harness apparatus which includes a plurality of solar cells with each having an active surface, that is, a surface which absorbs photons to generate electrical power, and these are arranged in a substantially parallel fashion with the active surfaces all facing the same direction and with the solar cells being stacked in line behind one another. The solar harness includes a plurality of magnets with at least one magnet being located between each adjacent solar cell in the plurality of cells so as to hold the cells in the stacked arrangement without any further support and so as to create solderless contacts therewith. Means is connected to the stack for drawing electric current therefrom. Preferably, the magnets are at least partially wrapped or wound in electrically conductive material so that the conductivity in series is enhanced. Further, the solar harness apparatus may be employed in conjunction with a parabolic reflector so as to work with concentrated solar energy and it may be used in conjunction with means for converting electrical energy to transmittable wave energy and deployed extraterrestrially. Alternatively, the present invention solar harness apparatus may be reversed with power being put into it so as to create a wave energy transmission device.

What  application potential offers a quantum well diods array device ?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#
Heatpump,amplifier,loudspeaker,..... or 2electricity converter

wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 10:28:22 AM
There are no lyrics here.
In what language could Kapanadze write? In Georgian. Do you have an idea about Georgian writing?
This is the oldest form of writing. Even using the entire Internet, there will be great translation difficulties. Especially if you have handwritten text.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
There are no lyrics here.
In what language could Kapanadze write? In Georgian. Do you have an idea about Georgian writing?
This is the oldest form of writing. Even using the entire Internet, there will be great translation difficulties. Especially if you have handwritten text.

I've posted a diagram with a description. According to the information that was once given, it was a freehand drawing by Kapanadze.
I want to know if it's true. Maybe we have a diagram in front of us all the time and we don't see it. Do you know this scheme?

:google translator still working
მე გამოვაქვეყნე დიაგრამა აღწერილობით. ერთ დროს გავრცელებული ინფორმაციით, ეს იყო კაპანაძის ხელნაკეთი ნახატი.
მინდა ვიცოდე მართალია თუ არა. შეიძლება სულ წინ გვაქვს დიაგრამა და ვერ ვხედავთ. იცით ეს სქემა?

I have posted a diagram with a description. According to reports at one time, it was Kapanadze's handmade painting.
I want to know if it is true or not. Maybe we have a diagram right in front of us and we don't see it. Do you know this chart?

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 18, 2023, 10:42:17 AM
Atmospheric electricity should be measured in watts ,but not volts.
Then it would be seen that energy there not more than cat has crying.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 10:59:08 AM
Wesley:  Do you have any handwritten Kapanadze writings?
I need to compare it with a diagram that Kapanadze may have drawn.

Some of you have seen it but I wonder who the author is.

The language is Russian, but judging by the grammatical errors, which are peculiar to the Caucasians, we can say that a representative of the Caucasus has written.
What is depicted is quite clear, a difference of potentials is created, which has a smooth course throughout the "sausage" of elements.

http://www.myworlds.ru/tochnie-nauki/bestoplivniy-generator-kapanadze-shema-video-t385.html
probably someone made a mistake on purpose, you just need to redraw it correctly

I have finished my contribution. Maybe someone will be interested:

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 11:08:24 AM
Atmospheric electricity should be measured in watts ,but not volts.
Then it would be seen that energy there not more than cat has crying.

Basically, everything is balanced and there are no pluses for free in a large amount.  :(
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 11:29:49 AM

I have finished my contribution. Maybe someone will be interested:

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

I really like your version of the current amplifier that it is a step down transformer. It has already been mentioned that this element #9 is nothing more than lowering the voltage and frequency.

...Just raise the voltage to kV and then lower it. Do you think that's true? and why doesn't it happen?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 11:35:12 AM
The original screen sketch of the reactor, which is associated with Kapanadze.
I see the focusing of the magnetic flux from coils (by analogy with Russell), between which or inside of which coils (with a different number of turns) are inserted, connected in parallel. If a voltage is simultaneously applied to them, then a corresponding difference in magnetic intensities will arise inside these coils. Similarly, the EMF of the electric field will be greater from the side where there are fewer turns in the coils. Thus, if you follow the logic inside the channel throughout the entire sausage, there will be an EMF with a potential difference. The magnetic flux in the rings will provide focusing of the EMF (according to the ANAPOL system). The outer layer of thick wire will provide the pulsation of this sausage, thereby providing a change in parameters. The wire laid inside will have both eddy emf and commutation with earth load. Earth is needed just for the same purposes as the grounding of one phase of the output in electromechanical generators.
If my analysis is correct, it is a generator, a pulse generator with a corresponding reactor.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 11:36:04 AM
I have finished my contribution. Maybe someone will be interested:

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html)
The same thing, buy a ready-made amplifier and do not suffer:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005575276437.html  (https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005575276437.html)

 ;D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 11:38:09 AM
I really like your version of the current amplifier that it is a step down transformer. It has already been mentioned that this element #9 is nothing more than lowering the voltage and frequency.

...Just raise the voltage to kV and then lower it. Do you think that's true? and why doesn't it happen?

For this to happen, it is necessary to exclude the intercircuit current coupling, leaving only the capacitive one. In this variant, we need a push for this change, it is assumed that the first source will provide the starting current movement in the desired direction. And the current from the second source will not prohibit the circuit.

By the way, I did not invent anything in this variant, but only dismantled, Budenniy's system, not Kapanadze's.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 11:46:46 AM
The same thing, buy a ready-made amplifier and do not suffer:
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005575276437.html (https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005575276437.html)

 ;D

"Binoculars" is for antenna. But very similar, the solutions are the same. There are also welding ones on such core configuration.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/510243832785975017/
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 11:51:30 AM
The same thing, buy a ready-made amplifier and do not suffer:
https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005575276437.html (https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005005575276437.html)

 ;D

We know many examples that one thing works differently in one than in the other ex. choke.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 11:53:48 AM
The original screen sketch of the reactor, which is associated with Kapanadze.
I see the focusing of the magnetic flux from coils (by analogy with Russell), between which or inside of which coils (with a different number of turns) are inserted, connected in parallel. If a voltage is simultaneously applied to them, then a corresponding difference in magnetic intensities will arise inside these coils. Similarly, the EMF of the electric field will be greater from the side where there are fewer turns in the coils. Thus, if you follow the logic inside the channel throughout the entire sausage, there will be an EMF with a potential difference. The magnetic flux in the rings will provide focusing of the EMF (according to the ANAPOL system). The outer layer of thick wire will provide the pulsation of this sausage, thereby providing a change in parameters. The wire laid inside will have both eddy emf and commutation with earth load. Earth is needed just for the same purposes as the grounding of one phase of the output in electromechanical generators.
If my analysis is correct, it is a generator, a pulse generator with a corresponding reactor.
And you imagine that there are not ferrites but ferrite magnets from a magnetic separator or speakers. A Tesla bifilar are located between the magnets.
Then, disassemble the Li-ION or Ni-MH AA battery or search the Internet about its design.. There inside you will find a Tesla Bifilar. And the meaning is the same, as described by Tesla. Creates the same voltage between the "turns".

Then think about what the bifilar magnets will do when there is a current of 27 amps in the bobbin. Mechanical compression-stretching.
This is an apparatus for squeezing electricity out of a certain substance, which is located between the "turns of bifilars".
This drawing is safe for Kapanadze, since the formula for the physical and chemical process is not indicated. The correct option can be searched for 1000 years.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:00:14 PM
Am I the only one seeing ferrites here?


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 12:03:15 PM
I don't think Kapanadze has any kind of electrochemical reactor. He's got a purely pulse generator. The main thing here is obtaining of potential difference, movement and focusing of EMF around the conductor. Current force is already the result of another action, discharge of these received potential differences. In that "binoculars" (element #9) the resistance of the conductor where the current should be actually corresponds to zero value. So everything is very logical and very probable.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 12:04:29 PM
Am I the only one seeing ferrites here?
Look from the other side, a yellow sausage accidentally came out. Probably covered with masking tape or something similar. Disposable, only for one demonstration.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:07:21 PM
Look from the other side, a yellow sausage accidentally came out. Probably covered with masking tape or something similar. Disposable, only for one demonstration.

YES !
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:07:54 PM
This is very strange ! 10 cores and 10 bifilar coils. Why am I talking about this? Anyone guess!?!?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 12:08:04 PM
Am I the only one seeing ferrites here?

Yes in the center of the figure with the pointers to the elements, marked with an exclamation mark, can be read with error correction "Ferrite rings [цхеби]". what is in square brackets is clearly a Georgian word in Russian letters, can be translated only by knowing the Georgian language.

Coils, can be read as bifilar, most likely paired with different windings, when a pulse is applied we get an electric field of one spin. without magnetic field which is leveled.
So my analysis is very close to reality.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:12:42 PM
Yes in the center of the figure with the pointers to the elements, marked with an exclamation mark, can be read with error correction "Ferrite rings [цхеби]". what is in square brackets is clearly a Georgian word in Russian letters, can be translated only by knowing the Georgian language.
aha, so there is a word in this picture probably from the Georgian language? This raises the possibility that Kapanadze may have been present at its creation... at least that's what I'd like.  ;D


This drawing has a lot of features that appear in the green box and 2004 orange coil!
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 12:16:34 PM
This is very strange ! 10 cores and 10 bifilar coils. Why am I talking about this? Anyone guess!?!?
Better think about what is "Sol borenia"

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Borenium+Salt%22
I tried to study before. Fine chemistry. Physical chemistry.
Such compounds can act as a catalyst and attract electrons. But it is not strong enough to give a lot of electricity.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 12:19:30 PM
aha, so there is a word in this picture probably from the Georgian language? This raises the possibility that Kapanadze may have been present at its creation... at least that's what I'd like.  ;D


This drawing has a lot of features that appear in the green box and 2004 orange coil!

The probability is very high, while we must remember that the evolution of Tesla transformer, ends with a cone coil.  In the figure we see a cone of coils, while there is still Russell with his magnetic lens, make a sandwich of coils of the lens only paired winding leveling magnetic flux, we get a channel with electric potential difference vortex field, ready EMF. Run a wire inside this is the output winding.

By the way, element #9 can also be made by pair winding, and we will get the element I described, it is like a homework.
From here, it is now clear to me how the Zatsarinin Transformer works.
 I'm done with it today.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:23:20 PM

1.2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10  this is the amount corresponding to the impulses we hear! when the device is turned off! 2004!

What a coincidence ! right ?

3x sound
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 12:59:00 PM
Better think about what is "Sol borenia"

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Borenium+Salt%22
I tried to study before. Fine chemistry. Physical chemistry.
Such compounds can act as a catalyst and attract electrons. But it is not strong enough to give a lot of electricity.

Why Borenium Salt ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
his is the amount corresponding to the impulses we hear! when the device is turned off! 2004!
No, but this is what breaks all mass theories...
This sound and the operation of the generator after the primary energy source is turned off means that the bobbin with its contents is able to work independently for several seconds after the spark is turned off!
The mechanical squeezing of electricity cycles resonate with the bobbin winding and the load, and so the coil continues to produce power without a spark.Mechanical quantum resonator.
Kapanadze talks about this in a new translation of the video of this generator, links to which I have recently provided.
Then the participants in the conversation come to the conclusion that it is possible to make the device to work without a spark.

We can see the result of this in the Kapanadze "Aquarium" video, where at the beginning the arrester fires aperiodically and rarely.
If the device is healthy, it has enough of the necessary ingredients, and if it is finely tuned to 50 Hz, the arrester rarely fires. If conditions begin to change, heating occurs,  concentrations change, etc., the arrester operates more often. If the state of the device deteriorates greatly, the arrester starts to work continuously. Next, you need to turn off the device to find out the malfunction, which is what Kapanadze does at the end of the "Aquarium" video.

Why Borenium Salt ?
How do you propose to understand "Sol BORENIJA" from this image?

What do you think about chemical compounds of boron? Some can be very secretive and toxic, such as:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diborane (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diborane)

But I assume that "Borenium Salt" is one of the minor components or a catalyst. The main components are not indicated on the image.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 01:20:55 PM
are you talking about this word?
but that would be barium salt

Could it be Barium as an element that is in ferrites? Barium Ferrite ?

rakarskiy can verify this please.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 01:25:31 PM
are you talking about this word?
but that would be barium salt
Read more carefully.
 In this picture, based on the handwriting, it seems to me that the inscriptions were made by a Russian person, and someone from Kapanadze's entourage told him. Georgians do not write like that, usually.

 Because the underline is good, but there are too many errors in the text. It looks strange, as if they specifically wanted to show that it was written by a Caucasian.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 01:28:48 PM
Read more carefully.
 In this picture, based on the handwriting, it seems to me that the inscriptions were made by a Russian person, and someone from Kapanadze's entourage told him. Georgians do not write like that, usually.

I'm sorry but you said you don't speak Russian. Do you have additional data from another source?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 18, 2023, 01:32:15 PM
Where did I say that? Read more carefully.
Why Borenium Salt ?
Ordinary borax could also probably be represented as a Borenium Salt, but this is wrong, because borax is a sodium salt of boric acid. Although borax is very interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 02:08:15 PM
I'm sorry but you said you don't speak Russian. Do you have additional data from another source?

I can say with 100% certainty that the person who knows the Russian language and the alphabet was writing at the level of a very poor user. Judging from the mistakes, obviously Caucasian. I have experience of communication and even correspondence with Caucasians. Having the experience of noticing and analyzing I draw a conclusion.

to the best of my knowledge, [1) расьпорька 2) цольборениия]   1) spacer or rather a fixative more precisely 2) barium salt.

Quote
Barium sulfate, barium sulfate is an inorganic compound, barium salt of sulfuric acid of the composition BaSO4. The salt is insoluble in water, ethanol, soluble in concentrated sulfuric acid. It is used in the production of white pigments, for cooling and lubrication of drilling tools at oil wells.

! barium salt, probably on a cone, for cooling.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 03:24:24 PM
I am not russian.

If you are not Russian I assume you know less about this language. Only a person who knows the language very well can understand the author of the words he wants to translate well, but even then he can do it wrong. There are additional aspects of language that will change the meaning of words. Slavic languages are very, very precise. You can say a sentence in dozens of ways and with any subtlety. Sometimes it helps and sometimes it hinders.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 03:44:11 PM
It is not easy to understand what the author meant by putting these design names on the drawing. Probably, when the drawing was drawn, there were verbal explanations.  Especially there are not a lot of elements.  I myself have drawn my designs many times, for those who asked and were interested. It is for this reason, in addition to the names, I also build a possible imagination of the design. For this you need to know the subject. Today 99% do not know the difference between a simple generator with a core and a transformer. Why the generation in a transformer does not come out, but the simplest generator does for a junior high school student.

By the way, the difference between a generator and a transformer can be understood from the marks I have left in the description of the operation of element 9 of the scheme

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html


My answer just concerns, my design in the blog and Kapanadze's generator by principle of operation (current generator)
https://www.quora.com/What-causes-a-generator-to-generate-half-of-its-voltage/answer/Serge-Rakarskiy

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 18, 2023, 04:50:51 PM
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 18, 2023, 09:15:41 PM
If I'm right, the sound is:
from a metal round can
from the coil so there is a core there
from the transformer on the table.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 18, 2023, 09:40:40 PM
I'm only considering the first Kapanadze device. It's my opinion that in the can is a T.V.C., a high-voltage transformer. The jar is a Faraday shield. The grenade itself is a reactor "current amplifier" (9). It's basically a current generator. The main transformer that sets the impulse and diode bridge are behind the "grenade". The figure we have considered is a sketch of this very reactor of the grenade.


https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 19, 2023, 09:19:04 AM
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o

Just everything is right, strong currents are not needed in Kapanadze's "Current Amplifier", only one current force should be present there, in the core of the power circuit. That's what this device was created for.

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 19, 2023, 01:43:35 PM
I can say one thing, the thick copper tube of the inductor is powered through 2Ц106Г diodes.
These diodes has maximum current 10 mA.  Somehow this does not really fit with large pulsed currents.  :o
KZ109 diodes were seen between a copper tube and a bobbin. Visually, they are used as spacers to hold the copper coil over the bobbin.

http://www.155la3.ru/price_kc109a.htm (http://www.155la3.ru/price_kc109a.htm)

This diodes is high-voltage column of pulsed diodes. They were used as a damper diodes in horizontal scanning circuit of very old tubes TVs.
Up to 6000 V and 1 ampere per impulse.
If the pulses are short time, it will more.

The diode KZ109 similar to this western diodes:

https://vikiwat.com/en/diode-tv20-1300v.html (https://vikiwat.com/en/diode-tv20-1300v.html)

Presumably the reason why  are used two diode, connected in different directions with the inductance in the series with one of them:
- if ferrite magnets "from magnetic separators"( (c) Kapanadze )  are placed inside the bobbin and pulsed bidirectional magnetic field applied, these magnets will demagnetized over time.

To prevent demagnetizing of the magnets,  may be Kapanadze maximizes the forward current and minimizes the reverse impulse by adding inductance in series with one diode.

You can read and watch a video about amateur devices for magnetizing permanent magnets. Without a diode between the capacitor and the coil, the magnets are weakly magnetized.

Sorry, I couldn't find anything similar in English:
(Attention to the big diodes connected in series with the magnetizer coil)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDaFzCmKaJU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDaFzCmKaJU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFINyI5GnRY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFINyI5GnRY)

https://forum-ixbt-com.translate.goog/topic.cgi?id=48:8515-4&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en (https://forum-ixbt-com.translate.goog/topic.cgi?id=48:8515-4&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 19, 2023, 06:29:43 PM
This is the oldest form of writing. Even using the entire Internet, there will be great translation difficulties. Especially if you have handwritten text.
And also in Georgia, the vigesimal  number system is used.  Maybe that's why Kapanadze achieved out to be a overunity. Because he measured the input power in Russian, and the output power in Georgian  ? ;D

KZ109 diodes were seen between a copper tube and a bobbin.
No КЦ109 !  КЦ106Г
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 19, 2023, 08:32:24 PM
Apparently you skipped classes about Kapanadze.  ;D

https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192242/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192242/image//)

See KZ109 under the copper coil?
From the other side another such diode. And the third spacer maybe from delay line for the brightness signal from the old TV, used as a high-voltage inductor.
https://9zip.ru/pictures/linii_zaderzhki.jpg (https://9zip.ru/pictures/linii_zaderzhki.jpg)
Or in GreenBox used only one diode in series with the coil.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 19, 2023, 09:16:50 PM
See KZ109 under the copper coil?
Yes,I see.  No wonder I had to repair them for many years.
And why is КЦ106 written in the figure then?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 08:16:39 AM
https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg366142/#msg366142 


There is another Kapanadze patent first, where he probably discloses the principle of operation of his "Current Amplifier #9"  WO 2008/103129 A1 "INDEPENDENT ENERGY DEVICE (https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2008103129)"  [PDF (http://valvolodin.narod.ru/articles/WO2008103129A1_Rus.pdf)].

The autonomous energy device improved in accordance with the present invention starts operating with initial electrical energy obtained from a source of initial energy (15) and subsequently successively generates energy and is characterized in that it comprises a power switch (1), a capacitor (2), points (3), a high frequency generator (4), first filter (5), first spool (6), first frequency controller (7), second filter (8), frequency stabilizer (controller) (9), second spool (10), second frequency controller (11), output (phase) (positive) (12), positive self-power cable (12a), output (neutral) (13), negative self-power cable (13a), neutral (ground) (14), source of source energy (15).

I think that my thoughts and fantasies of an engineer about how Kapanadze's generator is arranged are very close to reality. The operation of the element "Current Amplifier No. 9" is disclosed in another patent, where we have two coils - primary (6) with high voltage, which is regulated through a spark gap (7), and secondary (10), included in the power circuit. In the patent, the connection of the primary power circuit and the "current amplifier" secondary coil (10) is parallel. I in the diagram, on the blue background placed them in series, according to the second patent.  The principle of operation of the element, the current generator by converting the EMF of the high-voltage voltage source and focusing it on the conductor of the power circuit, the coil (10), into a magnetic vortex field, which is essentially the current force.


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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html



Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 01:07:35 PM

 "See KZ109 under the copper coil?"
Yes,I see.  No wonder I had to repair them for many years.
And why is КЦ106 written in the figure then?

Maybe KZ106 diodes were used in the generator with can (2004), and KZ109 diodes were used in the later  generator "GreenBox".

"Current Amplifier"
I think that my thoughts and fantasies of an engineer about how Kapanadze's generator is arranged are very close to reality.

An engineer who understands physics needs to determine not only current, voltage or power, but the energy received at the input and generated at the output.

The principle of operation of the element, the current generator by converting the EMF of the high-voltage voltage source and focusing it on the conductor of the power circuit, the coil (10), into a magnetic vortex field, which is essentially the current force.

It seems that earlier this approach was called "to get a hybrid of a snake and a hedgehog".
Does not work. You cannot connect a car battery  in series with the secondary of the ignition coil and get 30,000 volts 200 amperes.
The current amplifier must amplify current and voltage. Moreover, the voltage must be more than 220 volts, so that due to the voltage drop on the inductance of the bobbin winding, the output is 220 V alternating.
The output of the "current amplifier" must be more than 300 volts of alternating voltage with a current of more than 20 amperes. Then each of the ten elements, probably connected in series, should produce 30 volts RMS, that's 42 volts amplitude, or 84 peak-to-peak.
So imagine which cell can create such a voltage and current of more than 20 amperes.
The only thing that makes the task easier is that the cell can be reversed, create +42 volts and -42 volts, and these pulses can be less than 0.01 seconds long to get a total of 50 Hz.
Maybe there are more items? Based on practice, chemical elements do not allow you to get more than 4 volts.
Then you need to somehow place about 100 elements inside the bobbin. Difficult, besides, they will be very warm. By the way, this is marked in the figure near the inscription "ferite rings" "cheba" is added, which means it is heated.
"Chemical element" in this case does not literally mean a chemical current source. I mean some unidentified cell that is capable of producing energy. "Element X".
Pulse reversible energy source.
It might be difficult. Kapanadze stated that it took him a long time to make a demonstration sample. Maybe these elements of the "current amplifier" are very laborious to manufacture.
I once had a guess. In the workshop of Kapanadze's "Can genarator 2004 ", chasing tools were identified. This is when an image, a picture, is hollowed out on a metal sheet. In the same video, people come to him to discuss a project of work in this area.
Maybe he used same tools to make power cells?
A roll of some kind of cellophane film is visible on the table in the workshop.

Can the production of cells be similar to the production of gold leaf, when a gold plate is placed in a book between sheets of paper and the book is tapped with a hammer, bringing the sheets of gold almost to a transparent state?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 01:46:11 PM
I think this approach used to be called "get a snake and hedgehog hybrid." It doesn't work ........

First of all, I did not see in the load line of Kapanadze converter, alternating voltage, even with binoculars. At Kapanadze after the PUSH-PULA and the output winding, there is a diode bridge at the output of the diode bridge is a pulse current, which is smoothed by a capacitor (actually a source of direct current). In the second patent it is just a block circuit, nothing more. Thus the whole "cimus" in the element #9, in the focus of which, the secondary so-called winding, stretched in the form of a power circuit wire.  Yes, this element works as a current generator through voltage drop, or rather EMF, which is induced on this piece of wire. 

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 03:07:23 PM
First, determine the energy source.

1. Wires do not create energy on their own.

2. Wires do not create more energy than these wires receive from the outside in any way.

3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 20, 2023, 03:10:50 PM
This is the same setting  ;D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 03:28:23 PM
First, determine the energy source.
1. Wires do not create energy on their own.
2. Wires do not create more energy than these wires receive from the outside in any way.
3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create it.

The conductor is a closed circuit. Only in a closed circuit on the surface of the conductor is the formation of EMF, vortex electric field, between the source of electric field potential difference. But there is a point here. The current generator absorbs EMF to create the appropriate current; the voltage generator produces EMF to maintain current in the circuit. Current is already a magnetic vortex field converted from an electric field. Physicists call third-party EMF, but what kind of third-party is it? The electronic version is going down the toilet.

All synchronous generators work on the principle of a current generator!   Capa just solved the problem differently. By the way, I had a different version, but Capa's version is also interesting.
 
Budyonny first used high voltage to ignite the arc, and what is on the slide is already a continuation and addition to the patent. Why no patent is the question? More like the same question, why is there no patent of Sergey Borisovich's "Artful Transformer".
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 03:32:40 PM
This is the same setting  ;D
The image is blurry and the winding of the bobbin seems to be different in diameter.  In the middle is white electrical tape.It looks like the coil has been modified.
Budyonny first used high voltage to ignite the arc,
Uh, first. But the first  was only in Russia. Read  about the "Welding Oscillator" and think about what Budyonny has to do with it.
Low-power welding transformer. According to reviews of the "Rusich" apparatus, welding was poor because there was not enough power and the device overheated until the plastic case melted.Let's not involve Budyonny in this topic.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 20, 2023, 03:41:32 PM
Sergh: It's just that the elements are in the same places.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 20, 2023, 03:47:03 PM
Read  about the "Welding Oscillator" and think about what Budyonny has to do with it.

The welder diagram may be relevant for some solutions, but it is not the same as a diagram with ferrites inside.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 03:49:23 PM
Can Hedgehog and Viper be crossed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D43bipwBVgs


At one time I used this principle to make a reactor for oxygen-free "kreging" of gasoline vapors on board a car. The spark was good, but I had to say goodbye to a part of my teeth and periosteum, so now I bypass arresters by the tenth way. 

The capa has a small spark for the pulse. You can pump a magnetic field, but you can also pump an electric field, probably the mouthpiece did it. At least that's my theory.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 20, 2023, 03:52:12 PM
The welder diagram may be relevant for some solutions, but it is not the same as a diagram with ferrites inside.

It is undeniable (not equal), but the principle is identical in my opinion. I have described it all in my work.
What if!? Devils sometimes make jokes!   ;)
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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 03:57:41 PM
Sergh: It's just that the elements are in the same places.
Don't know. The picture is blurry. But what's the difference? Maybe Kapanadze had some other intermediate version of the generator with KZ106 diodes, for example, 2 kilowatts.
How do you estimate the power of the spark in the spark gap?
The spark is very weak in these generators and barely visible. I think for this spark is need not more as 20 - 50 watts from power supply.
The voltage on the spark gap should be 5-8 kilovolts for a guaranteed breakdown. What will be the average current? About 4..7 milliamps. A weak source will not burn any of these diodes.
The only question is the current in the pulse. But the spark is weak, I think that the storage capacitor before the spark gap has a very small capacitance, up to hundreds of picofarads. The max energy per pulse for these diodes probably cannot be found in old datasheets.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 20, 2023, 04:18:31 PM
Don't know. The picture is blurry. But what's the difference? Maybe Kapanadze had some other intermediate version of the generator with KZ106 diodes, for example, 2 kilowatts.
How do you estimate the power of the spark in the spark gap?
The spark is very weak in these generators and barely visible. I think for this spark is need not more as 20 - 50 watts from power supply.
The voltage on the spark gap should be 5-8 kilovolts for a guaranteed breakdown. What will be the average current? About 4..7 milliamps. A weak source will not burn any of these diodes.
The only question is the current in the pulse. But the spark is weak, I think that the storage capacitor before the spark gap has a very small capacitance, up to hundreds of picofarads. The max energy per pulse for these diodes probably cannot be found in old datasheets.

I checked when the spark looked purple-blue and it was quiet. It looked best when I used ZVS + TDK around 50Khz. Without diode. You could say it was pure sine.

There may possibly be two spark gap.

The spark gap can be a protector and the copper coil is like a coax. Then sparkgap takes what exceeds the voltage.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 20, 2023, 09:51:04 PM
I checked when the spark looked purple-blue and it was quiet. It looked best when I used ZVS + TDK around 50Khz. Without diode. You could say it was pure sine.

There may possibly be two spark gap.

The spark gap can be a protector and the copper coil is like a coax. Then sparkgap takes what exceeds the voltage.
Of course it could be anything. But the picture shows only one spark gap. Foil can be used for heat dissipation.
Once I used 4 KZ106G diodes connected in parallel to rectify 2.6 kilovolts 30 kilohertz 200 watts. 20 milliamps per diode. It worked fine.
For this diodes in datasheet max current is 10 milliamps, but this is for a wide temperature range and for long-term operation.
When use this diodes for a short time, they can withstand a much higher current.
Somehow there was a short circuit in the load, the diodes got very hot and droplets of some kind of metal appeared on one diode outside the case. Probably something inside melted and the metal leaked out. Even after that, the diode worked, but I did not test it at rated voltage and after then threw it away.
For a nanosecond pulse generator, these diodes did not fit. They generated pulses, but too long.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: seychelles on July 21, 2023, 06:03:55 AM
AGAIN WHY KAPA USED A COPPER PIPE AS HIS PRIMARY OF HIS TESLA COIL? WHY NOT JUST A THICK
WIRE . REASON THE SECRET IS WHAT IS IN THAT COPPER PIPE. INERT CONDUCTIVE GAS. IT HAS DO WITH
THE CAVITY RESONANCE OF THE GAS AND SKIN EFFECT. TESLA HIMSELF CONCLUDED THAT CERTAIN
CONDUCTIVE GAS AT LOW PRESSURE IS VERY LOW RESISTIVE TO HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 21, 2023, 07:16:37 AM
AGAIN WHY KAPA USED A COPPER PIPE AS HIS PRIMARY OF HIS TESLA COIL? WHY NOT JUST A THICK
WIRE . REASON THE SECRET IS WHAT IS IN THAT COPPER PIPE. INERT CONDUCTIVE GAS. IT HAS DO WITH
THE CAVITY RESONANCE OF THE GAS AND SKIN EFFECT. TESLA HIMSELF CONCLUDED THAT CERTAIN
CONDUCTIVE GAS AT LOW PRESSURE IS VERY LOW RESISTIVE TO HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT.

Kapanadze solved the problem of transforming element No. 9 from a Transformer into a Current Generator (Current Amplifier).
Why, to get EMF on the conductor in the focus of the magnetic circuit and changing this magnetic field, when this same EMF can be obtained in a much more budgetary way. The main thing is to make it work on a conductor in the power circuit. You need to make the transformer work as a generator.   

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Burykin Valery Ivanovich
      Current generator and voltage generator. (https://b-valery.ru/generator-toka-istochnik-toka-razlichiya-i-skhodstva-stabilizatorov-toka-i-napryazheniya/) What is the difference? What is a current generator and what are the areas of its application.
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      On work it was necessary to find any clear description of what is a current generator (current stabilizer, current source), its areas of application and examples of calculation. Nothing acceptable could not be found.

The stupidity of physicists in explaining these two different generation devices is not perceived by practitioners. Example above (nothing clear in the explanation of the difference did not find) But everything is very simple on the principle of action of the source in maintaining the Force of current (I) at a given voltage in the circuit (U) in a circuit with a load (R): I = U/R; For a complete simple circuit need the resistance of the Source (r), then the formula will have the form: I = U/(R+r) The voltage drop Ui = IR (potential difference) is the condition for the occurrence of current in the circuit I = U/(R+r) and on the circuit section, the load: I = U/R The total EMF must have the form:  E = U + Ui

In a voltage generator (the best known is a battery), to hold the voltage, a chemical reaction produces this missing EMF value (Ui ), which turns into a current. In a current generator (the best known is a synchronous generator with a magnetic rotor), the total EMF E = U + Ui is the generator's idle voltage.
When connecting the load R, to the generator phase terminals, with its winding resistance r, to charge the battery (let's take an illustrative example) with voltage Ub (the same as the mains voltage), the formula for calculating the current will take the form: 

I = (E - Ub) / (R + r), where (E - Ub) = Ui   

For both voltage generator and current generator sources, the formula for the current in the loop will be general: I = Ui / (R + r)


Based on the topology of the transformer, to turn a transformer into a generator, it is necessary to make the currents in the turns of the input winding and the output winding flow in the same direction. That in a traditional transformer, is only observed in the reverse-phase version, with the EMF induced from the magnetic field of the core, a pure generator. Achieving linearity of the current pulse while maintaining EMF is virtually impossible without a sub-magnetization system. 

For the second solution, we need to provide sufficient primary voltage with the lowest possible current.  In order to exclude the transformer connection, we need another source included in series with our element, which will ensure the flow of current in the circuit and in the core of the element in the desired direction, In this variant there is a hope that the primary voltage will act only by transferring EMF to the secondary power core. Then the core will be electrically polarized and there will be a corresponding voltage drop, because the field will tend to close in the circuit and equilibrate, forming a corresponding current in the core of the circuit.

Optimal, however, is when the primary coils are located perpendicular to the core of the power winding. What we actually observe according to the figure, which with a very high degree of probability can be attributed to the authorship of Kapanadze.

Kapanadze has solved this problem!  It is possible that his element No. 9 is a symbiosis of a current generator and a voltage generator.  And the power circuit is more DC than AC.

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html




 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 21, 2023, 09:52:03 AM
AGAIN WHY KAPA USED A COPPER PIPE AS HIS PRIMARY OF HIS TESLA COIL? WHY NOT JUST A THICK
WIRE . REASON THE SECRET IS WHAT IS IN THAT COPPER PIPE. INERT CONDUCTIVE GAS. IT HAS DO WITH
THE CAVITY RESONANCE OF THE GAS AND SKIN EFFECT. TESLA HIMSELF CONCLUDED THAT CERTAIN
CONDUCTIVE GAS AT LOW PRESSURE IS VERY LOW RESISTIVE TO HIGH FREQUENCY CURRENT.
Even the use of now common superconductors does not provide any additional energy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2jmNBjjAmE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2jmNBjjAmE)

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Superconducting-Cost-Effective-Multipurpose-Superconducting-Niobium_1600669324001.html (https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Superconducting-Cost-Effective-Multipurpose-Superconducting-Niobium_1600669324001.html)

1. Wires do not create energy on their own.

2. Wires do not create more energy than these wires receive from the outside in any way.

3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 21, 2023, 10:21:31 AM
Even the use of now common superconductors does not provide any additional energy.
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3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.

A conductor is not a source by itself. If a conductor is placed in a zone where a electric field with potential difference is polarized on its surface, this piece of conductor is already a source with electric field strength, when it is closed in the circuit of an electric circuit, the electric potential field will pass to the state of vortex field which is discharged, current is a kind of reverse action. Polarization of a conductor in an electric field, the same action takes place in the winding of a generator with wires embedded in a slot. The transformer window already has the electric field of the primary circuit. That's why a transformer is not a generator.

The magnetic field in the core is formed with a much greater amplification of its strength in relation to the magnetic strength of the field coil. Generators work on this property, but transformers do not work.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2022/06/magnetization-of-steel-magnetic.html


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 21, 2023, 10:51:13 AM
If a conductor is placed in a zone where a electric field with potential difference is polarized on its surface, this piece of conductor is already a source with electric field strength, when it is closed in the circuit of an electric circuit, the electric potential field will pass to the state of vortex field which is discharged, current is a kind of reverse action.
No, it doesn't work. What you described is called Electrostatic induction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction)

Doesn't work because it affects EVERYTHING. And on your wires from the multimeter and on any other conductors. It is impossible to use electrostatic induction to generate additional energy.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 21, 2023, 11:04:20 AM
No, it doesn't work. What you described is called Electrostatic induction:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatic_induction

Doesn't work because it affects EVERYTHING. And on your wires from the multimeter and on any other conductors. It is impossible to use electrostatic induction to generate additional energy.


Polarization itself is not yet a source for a complete source that can be included in a circuit with a load, you need to create the conditions for it! You cannot even charge a simple capacitor from atmospheric electricity in sufficient power without creating the necessary conditions for it. That is why the Kapanadze converter fulfills this condition. 

Although we know one device that lights bulbs when the conductor is polarized.

In "electricity" there is no additional energy, there is potential energy. in the form of "electric field potential difference" and there is Discharge energy. expressed in the power of the electromagnetic field in the circuit P=UI, for a generator Pg=1/2EI (P=UI) = (Pg=1/2EI)


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 21, 2023, 11:10:54 AM
The magnetic field in the core is formed with a much greater amplification of its strength in relation to the magnetic strength of the field coil.

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the induced electromotive force in any closed circuit is equal to the rate of change of the magnetic flux enclosed by the circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_induction)
Much greater amplification of its strength, but much more energy expended. The result is the same:

3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.

Although we know one device that lights bulbs when the conductor is polarized.
No, this is another ordinary things.
There is a 180 degree bend in the picture. It has inductance. Consider that this is not a short circuit, but a high-frequency choke between the leads of the bulbs.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 21, 2023, 11:43:54 AM
3. A magnetic field cannot produce more energy than it takes to create or manipulate it.

Suppose the transformer core has a primary and secondary winding in the first n1 - 250 turns. in the secondary n2 - 100 turns. Excitation voltage 13V frequency of alternating current of the primary winding f - 400 Hz. Magnetic field in the core changes direction with a frequency of 400 Hz, the core has a gap of 0.1 mm, so the magnetic induction resulting in 1.1 Tesla. (Magnetic induction was calculated by the inverse EMF of the primary winding. based on its inductance) Conductor cross section 10 mm * 20 mm (=0.0002 m2).

We have everything to calculate the secondary winding EMF:

Е = 4,44*n2*B*S*f  =  4,44 * 100 * 1,1 * 0,0002 * 400 = 39V

In reality, the voltage was between 4.9V and 5V. When the frequency was changed to 300 Hz, the voltage increased by 0.1-0.2V.

A must have changed E = 4.44*n2*B*S*f = 4.44 * 100 * 1.1 * 0.0002 * 300 = 29V
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If we take an ordinary magnet and a core with a winding according to the scheme of the simplest generator with the conditions of 50 turns and magnetic induction in the core, we get this result.
E = 4.44*n2*B*S*f = 4.44 * 100 * 1.1 * 0.0002 * 300 = 29V at idle.

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Data from real experiments.



No, this is another ordinary things.
There is a 180 degree bend in the picture. It has inductance. Consider that this is not a short circuit, but a high-frequency choke between the leads of the bulbs.

Inductance (https://yato-tools.ru/raznoe-2/indukcziya-katushki-opredelenie-i-formuly-dlya-rascheta-i-izmereniya-induktivnosti.html), you say!

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The inductance of a coil depends on its geometric dimensions, the number of turns and the way the coil is wound. The larger the diameter, winding length and number of turns of the coil, the greater its inductance. When voltage is applied to the coil, energy is stored in the magnetic field and the electric current gradually increases. The inductance of the coil is determined by the formula: L = Φ / I, where L is the inductance of the coil, I is the current strength, Φ is the magnetic flux.

Can you, the effect of Tesla's experiment be confirmed mathematically?   

If you want to calculate the inductance of a single wire 1 meter long, you need to know the diameter of the wire and its material. To calculate the inductance of a wire, you can use the formula L = *10^-4 * d^2 / (4 * (d/2 + l)), where L is the inductance of the wire in Gn/m, d is the diameter of the wire in mm, l is the length of the wire in m

 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 23, 2023, 06:38:00 PM
https://youtu.be/W9mBbjcRuRw

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I've analyzed the drawing of the inside of the Kapanadze reactor. I came to the conclusion that it has a capacitive converter. Decoded one word and got "capacitance bifilar." I just on this suspended in 2019, my work on the book "Resonance - The Mystery of the Parameter" . This is a completely unexpected turn for me.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 23, 2023, 07:53:15 PM
https://youtu.be/W9mBbjcRuRw (https://youtu.be/W9mBbjcRuRw)

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I've analyzed the drawing of the inside of the Kapanadze reactor. I came to the conclusion that it has a capacitive converter. Decoded one word and got "capacitance bifilar." I just on this suspended in 2019, my work on the book "Resonance - The Mystery of the Parameter" . This is a completely unexpected turn for me.
can you tell more about it  please
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 24, 2023, 06:23:42 AM
can you tell more about it  please
Wesley

The closest word "tesia" can be translated as the name of the deity of the female name "beginning" The second option is closest to the word "bifilar", if we take into account the peculiarities of the Georgian language and slang declensions to simplify the names.
Perhaps this is the name Kapanadze gave to a paired coil with different winding spins, I have worked with such coils too.

In the picture we also see that the ferrite rings are grounded. The core of powerful high-voltage transformers (https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html) is always grounded (http://boginjr.com/electronics/hv/flyback-driver-2/).

such a good patent:

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/a1/5c/92/9d5d22ec6f82d4/US2521513.pdf 

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At one time on the forum "Charge"  there was this guy, he made a similar converter with the secondary output winding as a capacitance of paired windings.  I'll find his drawing and post it, basically everything goes to this configuration which is shown on my slide where I compare it to the Smith dipole system.

slide (https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjjiychuMh9EsCHuBermiOWj3jpRsZ4LnudrqcnkNidAN2OwwPYt7xYTNsTf8E1aIg2ow3iVUH6mhsBMo8Vsry0ywLF4HG6KHuOJgOGSdri60bgarNCYZMS0oiqcpkY4C0QrnQNDdeW3uWRibbuyuSfxM3zkaWddirk4PqyDIO6KPLI5Ag_L3hjc9WL/s1501/2023-02-28_104401.jpg)

link to the Charge forum post (http://zaryad.com/forum/threads/rezonansnye-generatory.811/page-7#post-91883)

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 24, 2023, 11:38:27 AM
I've analyzed the drawing of the inside of the Kapanadze reactor. I came to the conclusion that it has a capacitive converter.

Do you have any idea how much capacitance is needed for a frequency of 50 Hz? And for current more than 20 amps?
Such a capacity cannot be created by any bifilar of this type.

In addition, manipulations with the capacitance also do not produce free energy in any way, as well as manipulations with the magnetic field.
No power source - no free energy!
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 24, 2023, 01:12:38 PM
Do you have any idea how much capacitance is needed for a frequency of 50 Hz? And for current more than 20 amps?
Such a capacity cannot be created by any bifilar of this type.

In addition, manipulations with the capacitance also do not produce free energy in any way, as well as manipulations with the magnetic field.
No power source - no free energy!

Absolutely agree, direct inductive-capacitive transmission will not be with current multiplication (It's a conventional transformer, I gave the link to the patent above). The current force is the state of the load circuit, successive capacitances in it, will work as limiters of this current force. Secondly, who told you about 50 Hz, in the load of Kapanadze's power circuit? Studying his patents, I came to the conclusion that conditionally DC circuit, with a high-frequency pulse block "amplifier/current generator".  How the current generator works, I have already stated, if it is possible to use the capacitive component, then only in the primary circuit of the converter.

What I saw in this "sausage" is yet to be tested.


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In this clip, the researcher is probably demonstrating just how to put the system into generator mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mz0x_vCXtg&t=98s

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 24, 2023, 02:32:30 PM
Secondly, who told you about 50 Hz, in the load of Kapanadze's power circuit?
    I'm sorry, but 50 Hz is shown by the frequency meter on the GreenBox video. In the Turkish video, a conventional induction motor is powered from the device. Measurement of current  are carried out with ordinary current clamps.

    Therefore, for a long time I came to the conclusion that the device is close to an electrochemical source.
I once experimented with a simple cell that can transfer electicity trought hydrogen polarization.It was a reversible chemical cell with no plus or minus. 
Chemical low frequency AC "transformer".
There was no free energy then. It was only a prototype for determining the possibility of a relatively fast transfer of electricity through electrolytic and chemical reactions.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 24, 2023, 02:48:31 PM
    I'm sorry, but 50 Hz is shown by the frequency meter on the GreenBox video. In the Turkish video, a conventional induction motor is powered from the device. .....

The frequency meter has not become an outpost for me, the system is more what I see on the schematic and logic in the design of device variants. I also considered this point when I came to my version. I do not consider the Turkish installation, as there is likely to be a complex design including conversion levels. Any motor can be connected to the DC/AC inverter, as the actual collector AC can be connected to the DC network (as many do).

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: onepower on July 24, 2023, 04:54:44 PM
Sergh
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Do you have any idea how much capacitance is needed for a frequency of 50 Hz? And for current more than 20 amps?
Such a capacity cannot be created by any bifilar of this type.

This is a common misconception and we have to look beyond bulk non-descriptive terminology like "capacitance". When we say capacitance we mean the force exerted on two groups of charges by an electric field which constitutes energy. Ergo, Energy = 1/2 C V^2, since C (surface area and distance between conductors) is often fixed the voltage determines the energy storage.

For example, a 1F cap at 12v stores 72 Joules of energy and at 24v 288 Joules. When the voltage increased 2x the energy storage increased 4x. What you didn't mention is the most important factor which is the voltage. Raise the 1F cap up to 10,000v and the energy stored is now 50,000,000 Joules.

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In addition, manipulations with the capacitance also do not produce free energy in any way, as well as manipulations with the magnetic field.
No power source - no free energy!

I agree but not for the reasons you might assume. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything there just words, often meaningless terms because they provide no details or context. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything the electric and magnetic fields interacting with other particles and fields on different levels do.

For example, the Kapanadze device has maybe 50 parts utilizing the interaction of electric and magnetic fields on many different levels. This constitutes millions of possible variables or ways any parts/fields could interact. Have you confirmed the millions of different ways the parts/fields could interact?. If not how could anyone know the electric and magnetic fields were not being manipulated in some way?.

AC
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 09:02:36 AM
Sergh
This is a common misconception and we have to look beyond bulk non-descriptive terminology like "capacitance". When we say capacitance we mean the force exerted on two groups of charges by an electric field which constitutes energy. Ergo, Energy = 1/2 C V^2, since C (surface area and distance between conductors) is often fixed the voltage determines the energy storage.

For example, a 1F cap at 12v stores 72 Joules of energy and at 24v 288 Joules. When the voltage increased 2x the energy storage increased 4x. What you didn't mention is the most important factor which is the voltage. Raise the 1F cap up to 10,000v and the energy stored is now 50,000,000 Joules.
Sorry, but that doesn't work. I can't even imagine the size of a 1 farad 10,000 volt capacitor.

Let's go back to the surface of the Earth.

For example, consider capacitors that are sold on ebay.
1. High voltage capacitor, medium quality parameters:
10 kilovolts 0.05 microfarads. Not bad dimensions parameters, if the ruler is in millimeters.
The energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 2.5 Joules  :(
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255173110571 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/255173110571)

2. Conventional electrolytic capacitor, 22000 microfarads 80 volts.
The energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 70.4 Joules  :)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192052856834 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/192052856834)

3. Low voltage super capacitor, approximately the same dimensions:
2.7 volts 500 farads. Not a very good ratio of capacity and dimensions.
But the energy of such a capacitor СU^2/2 = 1822.5 Joules  :D
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174845683262 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/174845683262)

I agree but not for the reasons you might assume. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything there just words, often meaningless terms because they provide no details or context. Capacitance and Inductance don't do anything the electric and magnetic fields interacting with other particles and fields on different levels do.
Here's what you wrote, the key point. Highlighted in bold. These "other particles and fields" are the source from where the energy is transferred. Especially other field. Not magnetic or electrical.

For example, the Kapanadze device has maybe 50 parts utilizing the interaction of electric and magnetic fields on many different levels. This constitutes millions of possible variables or ways any parts/fields could interact. Have you confirmed the millions of different ways the parts/fields could interact?. If not how could anyone know the electric and magnetic fields were not being manipulated in some way?.

AC
    Kapanadze's device consists of a bobbin wound with an ordinary electrical wire. This is enough for the installation to work. No 50 visible parts are needed for a minimum working design. The spark and primary coil are not needed all the time. We were convinced of this from at least 2 videos of Kapanadze. The first video is a 2004 generator in Kapanadze's workshop. The power supply, which created a spark, was disconnected, but the device worked for a couple of seconds with a strange sound. This was followed by a discussion between Kapanadze and a colleague that it was possible to make the device work without the need for a spark. (The translation of this video from Georgian was recently published, links and description are in this topic)
   The second video is "Aquarium", in which the spark gap worked chaotically, the number of operations increased by the time the generator was turned off due to a malfunction.

   We do not know what is inside the bobbin. We only assume. A few posts earlier had a photo of a frame from a video that showed the insides of the coil falling out. Inside is some kind of toroid with constrictions, similar to a scheme with shoe prints.

Please read carefully the postings in this thread for the last month.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 09:58:25 AM
I checked and the sound of the 2004 turning off corresponds most closely to a transformer with a core or ferrites that have or are permanent magnets.
Stimulation frequency approx. +- Hz
32Hz base and FM! modulation 320Hz (PURE SINUS!)
It's just sound, of course, but something definitely brings us closer.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 10:29:22 AM
    Yes, it matches the elements on paper with shoe prints.
But why we don't notice the time delay and  strange sound when the device is turned off normally? When device turn off in a normal way, does the spark also stop working. Or does Kapanadze turn off the device in a normal way only with the help of a toggle switch?
Or do we just not hear a strange sound and do not notice the shutdown delay due to the peculiarity of the video formation?


   It can be assumed that the toggle switch somehow mechanically blocks the supply of some component into the bobbin. Vibrating toroids can act as a vibration pump. From the jar through a copper capillary tube, such as those used in refrigeration, some component enters or circulates into the bobbin core. The modified toggle switch mechanically blocks the supply of the component.
When turning on the device, was it like this when a spark exists, but the incandescent bulbs are not yet lit? Then the toggle switch turns on and the lights start to glow?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 11:01:06 AM
When Wesley was at Kapanadze's and his device is turned on, there is a sound that resembles a relay switching. This is not very good news.
ok. In the 2kw device (small coil and several boxes) no spark gap is visible at all.
Look; an aquarium in the garage and a TT coil at 200Khz. There is a voltage multiplier and spark plugs, but no spark!
Recently, I thought that the spark gives off excess energy, but it is not possible after all. Certainly not with 2-5kW!? there are a few watts on the spark gap. There are NO amps.
What is a spark gap for? I don't know.
We see that in 2004 the device works after turning off 1s when the bulbs are full of light then they are suddenly disconnected. A knock similar to a relay is heard! as in the 200W Wesley.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 25, 2023, 11:17:27 AM
Judging by the sound, you can generally decide that the relay is clanking constantly. In the topology I am considering, the high-voltage component should be delayed, (this is due to the magnetic flux of the core) if you turn off the main circuit, there will be pulses for some time until the high-voltage buffer store is discharged.

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https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 01:12:33 PM
Now I want to most accurately describe something unusual that the most attentive viewers have long observed in one of Kapanadze's videos, and which has now become a little more clear thanks to the translation that has appeared.
I duplicate lines of dialogue from the video in Russian to reduce the possibility of misinterpretation.


24:10 "About inertia, you mean disconnect from here?"
(Disconnect the 220 volt cable that is connected to the output of the 12 V to 220 V converter, that is, turn off all power to the transformer, transistors and spark.)
      "Насчет инерции, вы имеете ввиду отключить отсюда?"
(Отключить кабель 220 вольт, который подключен к выходу преобразователя 12 В в 220 В, то есть отключить вообще всё питание на трансформатор, транзисторы и искру.)

24:15 "Go away, Tyomo.."
      "Отойди, Темо.."

24:20 "Now, let's look carefully, when we disconnect our device from the converter, how long the device will continue to generate energy by inertia .."
      "Вот сейчас, посмотрим внимательно, когда отключаем нашу установку от преобразователя, сколько по инерции установка будет продолжать вырабатывать энергию.."

24:32 He turns off all the power for the transformer, transistors and spark. A clicking sound is heard (may be from removing the plug from the outlet on converter)

Then the most important thing happens! Some very strange iridescent low-frequency sound is heard.

      Он отключает вообще всё питание для трансформатора, транзисторов и искры. Слышен щелчек (может быть от вынимания вилки из розетки преобразователя) Затем происходит самое важное! Слышен какой-то очень странный переливающийся низкочастотный звук.

24:34 Lamps go out. The strange sound ends.
      Лампы тухнут. Странный звук заканчивается.

24:38 Kapanadze (not exactly) says: "It's not possible to have such an idea. To have inertia more than .."
      Капанадзе (не точно) говорит: "Такого вроде не может быть по идее. Иметь инерцию больше чем.."

24:46 Zurab Mindeli says to Tariel Kapanadze: "You need to study the fact that since the device works a little by inertia, there is a chance that it will be able to work like this all the time, but this requires a technical solution."
      Зураб Миндели говорит Тариэлу Капанадзе: "Тебе нужно изучить тот факт, что так как устройство работает немного по инерции, есть шанс что оно сможет работать так постоянно, но для этого необходимо техническое решение."

Let's say this sound comes from a 12-220 converter that has started to run without load. Then why does the sound disappear after the lamps go out? The converter has not been turned off, it probably continues to work without load.
The iron transformer near the transistors, which was powered by a 12-220 converter, does not receive power to its windings since the 220 V cable is disconnected.
It remains only to assume that the strange low-frequency sound comes from the bobbin itself.

Link to video with subtitles in Russian. You can choose to translate into another language in the YouTube settings, but the Russian subtitles are somewhat misspelled, so it's better to look at the text in this post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5s2t_puDDhI)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 02:00:34 PM
2004: when Kapa disconnects the power we have 1s of action. Read the patent... the capacitor is periodically charged and discharged.
Since Kapa writes about it in the patent, maybe it's a mechanism that supports the process for 1s.

inertia? what did he mean? is that there is work for 1s? I think so.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 02:49:18 PM
We don't know what the patent means by the name "capacitor". Probably what is drawn in the picture with the prints of shoes, called "Tesla's Bifilars".
It could be power cells based on hydrogen polarization. The design can be fundamentally similar to the design of an electrolytic capacitor, which is why Tariel wrote about the capacitor in the patent. He could not discover the principle of work in the patent.

About the possibility of a hidden capacitor:
   1 - 2 seconds of glowing 5 kilowatt lamps is 5000 - 10000 joules. If one does not use high capacity supercapacitors, which were not available at the time, then a large battery of electrolytic capacitors is needed, which would be noticeable. I do not see any point in this, since they do not create a vibrating low-frequency sound, and cannot produce energy.


Uh, I reviewed the video with this translation and an idea came to me:

- these words:

Quote
24:46 Zurab Mindeli says to Tariel Kapanadze: "You need to study the fact that since the device works a little by inertia, there is a chance that it will be able to work like this all the time, but this requires a technical solution."
- it looks like Zurab Mindeli maybe knows how the device works. But Zurab Mindeli is a well-known person in Georgia:
http://www.nplg.gov.ge/bios/ka/00013651/ (http://www.nplg.gov.ge/bios/ka/00013651/)

Translated:

Zurab Mindeli
Date of birth: June 26, 1937 (86 years old)
Category: Engineer

Biography:

Place of birth: Sori village, Oni district.

He graduated from the Faculty of Energy of the Polytechnic Institute of Georgia in 1961, post-graduate studies in 1974.

Since 1961, he was a specialist of the thermal power plant of Shchokin, Tuli district;
1963-1977 Duty engineer of Tbilsres, deputy head of the workshop, deputy chief engineer,
1977-1981 Chief engineer;
1981-1984 Head and Chief Expert of the Soviet Specialist Group and Contract of the Republic of Iraq;
1985-1987 Head of the Prospective Development Service of Dzhatvenergo;
1987-1990 Director of Tbilsres;
1990 General Director of Dzhatavarenergo;
1991 Minister of Electric Energy of Georgia;
1991-2001 Vice President of "Tbilhydroproject", LLC Concern "Energy"; General Director of "Tesaco" LLC;
Since 2002, deputy of the Tbilisi City Council - P/G "Ertoba".

Has an academic degree of doctor;
Is an academician, the author of 6 inventions and 14 scientific works;
Holder of an honorary certificate of the Presidium of the Supreme Council of Georgia (1979).

The topic of the candidate's thesis - "Increasing the economy and reliability of thermal power plants by optimizing the combustion processes of thermochemical modes".

Source: Who's Who in Georgia: Georgian Biographical Directory. - Volume, 2006. - p. 337


   I assume that Tariel Kapanadze worked during the Soviet era as an architect in one of the organizations associated with the design of hydraulic structures, "Gruzgiprovodkhoz" or "Tbilhydroproekt", and this discovery of the principle of his device occurred there. Because of this, there was a rejection of this discovery by physicists, who considered such organizations to be non-core, incapable of global discoveries in physics.  :-\
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 03:36:18 PM
Awesome you found this guy :)
Surely something could be learned, but we do not know how to do it.

Capacitor: Let's think how much energy is in this capacitor if it is charged by a 110W inverter?

110J = 4.545mF@220V/s
The minimum capacitor is 4.5mF because we know that the device works for 1s

There are no such capacitors!
Similar to buy: 100000UF 80V, 200000uF/6.3V

It would have to be very large.

It is possible that this capacitor is not a capacitor! as you say.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 25, 2023, 03:51:49 PM
Kapanadze probably had an internal resonant circuit in element #9 (grenade) that resonates by damping for another 1 second. How this might look like I have depicted based on my old slide.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 04:10:39 PM
There are no such capacitors!
It would have to be very large.

It is possible that this capacitor is not a capacitor!

1 joule = 1 watt for 1 second.

In order to accumulate energy for the glow of 5 kilowatt incandescent bulbs for 1 second, 5000 joules are needed.

Thus, for 1 second 5 kilowatts,  is needed  a capacitor 1,562,500 microfarads 80 volts, 71 pcs ordinary capacitors 22,000 microfarads 80 volts.
If the weight of one capacitor is about 160 grams, the battery will weigh more than 11 kilograms.
We do not pay attention that the voltage on the capacitors decreases linearly during the discharge, unlike rechargeable batteries.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 04:14:22 PM
1 joule = 1 watt for 1 second.

In order to accumulate energy for the glow of 5 kilowatt incandescent bulbs for 1 second, 5000 joules are needed.

Thus, for 1 second 5 kilowatts,  is needed  a capacitor 1,562,500 microfarads 80 volts, 71 capacitors 22,000 microfarads 80 volts.
If the weight of one capacitor is about 160 grams, the battery will weigh more than 11 kilograms.
We do not pay attention that the voltage on the capacitors decreases linearly during the discharge, unlike rechargeable batteries.

We know that 110W is drawn from the inverter. There is no need for a 5kW capacitor if we are talking about capacitance.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 25, 2023, 04:20:30 PM
But the inverter is not connected at that time? They disconnected the plug from the socket at the output of the inverter. 5,000 - 10,000 kilojoules of energy were able to produce a bobbin in a stand-alone mode. Everything was disabled: iron transformer, transistors, spark.  The capacitors after the rectifier are of course very small to provide even 50 watts for 1 - 2 seconds.
Where did this energy come from?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on July 25, 2023, 05:01:41 PM
1 joule = 1 watt for 1 second.

In order to accumulate energy for the glow of 5 kilowatt incandescent bulbs for 1 second, 5000 joules are needed.

Thus, for 1 second 5 kilowatts,  is needed  a capacitor 1,562,500 microfarads 80 volts, 71 pcs ordinary capacitors 22,000 microfarads 80 volts.
If the weight of one capacitor is about 160 grams, the battery will weigh more than 11 kilograms.
We do not pay attention that the voltage on the capacitors decreases linearly during the discharge, unlike rechargeable batteries.

5000 Joules / 3 600 000 joules = 0,01388
5000 Wattshour /3600 (hour in seconds) = 1,388 Wh
Today we have lab R&D 150 Wh/Kg capacitors ( similar batteries).
10 Gr. capacitor enough for 5000 Watts energy during one second delivery !
wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 25, 2023, 05:49:16 PM
But the inverter is not connected at that time? They disconnected the plug from the socket at the output of the inverter. 5,000 - 10,000 kilojoules of energy were able to produce a bobbin in a stand-alone mode. Everything was disabled: iron transformer, transistors, spark.  The capacitors after the rectifier are of course very small to provide even 50 watts for 1 - 2 seconds.
Where did this energy come from?

I don't know if these arrows show the flow of electrons or the directions of dependence.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 26, 2023, 07:24:07 AM
We look at the block diagram of the device from the first patent of Kapanadze, correct the missing galvanic isolation element, and realize that direct connection of the start circuit to the output will be problematic for a number of reasons. But in any case, Kapanadze's scheme is a DC circuit with pulse control through the arrester.

Figura (https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhxiX8Epbyg18LeWdrp26YQTg7DBLi5OFxIDdZdjg-G3Le6Zpzcf3cVQd8Ojqrp1JUVQxqKESFjVTuLhRwXA7s8gqlVcnOtYmMFacDQ3MUJF1n54z-GLrzPXHtijBrDPAXeRzmoOgdR20p-z2cDADqkkh2Fn4RaKXS4fgLc40KWUj5xAsaCZD1QvG_ZYRg/s1547/2023-07-26_073447.jpg)

Kapanadze's second patent is an attempt to remove the circuit for autonomous control and to comply with the rules of the system. But in any case the principle is clear, at least to me.

I pored over the various interpretations of this device, and found a principled understanding of the process.

https://eurosamodelki.ru/katalog-samodelok/alternativnaja-energetika/pogovorim-o-Kapanadze-po-sledam-Budennogo-i-Kapanadze-


_________________________________________
I have completed the material on the Kapanadze generator; to me my conclusions seem to be optimal for solving this problem.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html

Quote
Analyzing the operation of transformers and electromagnetic synchronous generators I found a significant difference in the principle of operation.  Kapanadze realized a way to bring the transformer from the mode of intercurrent mutual induction to the mode of electromagnetic generation. It is this action that I explain the effect of energy multiplication through the amplifier/current generator in his circuit. 

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 26, 2023, 11:29:18 AM
I don't know if these arrows show the flow of electrons or the directions of dependence.
The patent shows wires to return power from output for self-powering the device.

This is what most of the video is about. At first, Kapanadze said that the device produces much more energy than it consumes from the battery. Then he said that they tried to charge the battery while the device was running. To do this, they made a simple charger, consisting of a step-down transformer and a rectifier. But it turned out that the main device can work without a battery at all. Of course, how could he charge then.

What is curious:

- why does the device need a 12 V DC to 220 volt AC 50 Hz converter?

Because Kapanadze's device has such a simple circuit that there is no 50 Hz master oscillator.

This needs to be explored. How are high voltage pulses generated when only 2 power transistors are visible? Probably the AC 50Hz voltage from the iron transformer goes directly to the bases of the transistors. To form short pulses, dinistors or even zener diodes can be used.

On your frame from the video, there are probably another wires.
These relatively thin wires go direct in the jar.
Probably inside the jar is some device that works from AC 220 volts. I assume that there is a small pump.
Today we have lab R&D 150 Wh/Kg capacitors ( similar batteries).
10 Gr. capacitor enough for 5000 Watts energy during one second delivery !
wmbr
OCWL

In the video, Kapanadze's lamps are 5 kilowatts, which, according to him, can glow for a long time.
Let's say they glow for 1 hour, that's 5000 Watt Hours.
It would take more than 33 kilograms of such supercapacitors to store this energy.

But let's talk about something else, which is more important:
Lamps consume 5000 watts. In a one second, the energy dissipated by the lamps will be 5000 Joules.
The voltage frequency on the lamps is 50 Hz.

1. If the power cells are unipolar.

Then the device generates at least 50 pulses per second, each pulse has an energy of 100 Joules.
By the circuit from paper with shoe prints, there are 10 cells of the "Tesla bifilar" type inside the bobbin. Based on this, each cell should create an energy pulse of 10 Joules. The voltage of the pulse must be at least 30 volts per cell. Then we can determine the estimated capacitance of the cell:
something like a 22,000 microfarad 30 volt capacitor needs to be charged every 0.02 seconds. It will be hard.
But 30 volts is too much for chemistry. If we focus on the usual voltage of hydrogen cells of 2 - 4 volts, then the number of cells should be 10 times more. 10 packs of 10 cells. One cell should produce pulses of energy of 1 joule with a voltage of 3 volts. Not much better, 220,000 microfarads 3 volts. Although this is already close to the parameters of supercapacitors or ionistors or hydrogen power cells.

2. If the power cells are bipolar.

Then the device generates at least 100 pulses per second, each pulse has an energy of 50 Joules.
Each of the 10 cells should create an energy pulse of 5 Joules. The voltage in the pulse must be at least 30 volts per cell. Then we can determine the estimated capacitance of the cell:
something like a 11,000 microfarad 30 volt capacitor needs to be charged every 0.01 seconds.

If we focus on the usual voltage of hydrogen cells of 2 - 4 volts, then the number of cells should be 10 times more. 10 packs of 10 cells. One cell should produce energy pulses of 0.5 joules with a voltage of 3 volts, charge with energy from the "other world" a capacity of 110,000 microfarads of 3 volts every 0.01 seconds. This is  close to the parameters of supercapacitors or ionistors or hydrogen power cells. But the charging or  discharging current is very big for such dimensions. >:(
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 26, 2023, 08:57:02 PM
Sergh:

You are trying to find the power in a 2004 device that has coils, box etc. Even here there is no place for batteries. See the small 2kW device with pvc boxes. The weight of this device is approx. 2 kg. but always the common part of these devices is the power on the earth wire from the ground! 24A (2004,greenbox)!
Here you should consider how it is possible that there is 24A on the ground cable? Why ? and how is that possible?
There are possibilities:
1. there is a second ground.
but you can't see that there are 2 groundings. So there is one...
In what operating mode can we have a 24A gorund cable?
2. TT gives current on one wire
3. Spark Gap.

I don't know any other possibilities.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on July 26, 2023, 09:11:49 PM
maybe between coil and ground there is constant or intermediate (pulsating) potential difference producing current on surface of wires
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on July 26, 2023, 09:37:33 PM
This changes everything.
https://overunity.com/19422/topruslan/msg580518/#msg580518
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 27, 2023, 08:59:26 AM
Here you should consider how it is possible that there is 24A on the ground cable? Why ? and how is that possible?
There are possibilities:
1. there is a second ground.
but you can't see that there are 2 groundings. So there is one...
In what operating mode can we have a 24A gorund cable?

If there was a second grounding, then Kapanadze would have told about it. That picture with two different transformers, a pulse and a 50 Hz transformer, and two groundings at a distance of 10 meters, which is common in the network, you can not attach to Kapanadze's topic. This picture is mine, I came up with this first concept many years ago when the GreenBox video came out. Someone spread this picture on the internet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxFgAfSXNt8

The fact that some speak about telluric currents does not apply at all. It is enough to read serious scientific works about this phenomenon. Even with two grounds, you won't get that much power.

But it could be even worse. If a phase wire is hidden inside the ground wire. Or the second option, in the GreenBox video, one guy always stands with a coil of wire in one place. Watch the GreenBox video, it's true.
Some suggest that through the sleeve of his clothes a wire was hidden in the shoes, which, through the heel, contacts an inconspicuous pin in the ground, to which, through a long-buried wire, Kapanadze's hidden assistant connects the phase at the right time.
A young fearless guy stands on the phase and clamps the wire in his hand with the "grounding" cable. He will not be shocked while the phase is connected, if he does not open his hand and the ground and the sole of the shoe of the second foot is sufficiently dry and does not conduct electricity.
In this case, it can be considered all a hoax.


2. TT gives current on one wire
How do you imagine it?
I'm sure it's not possible. Bobbin Kapanadze is not a Tesla coil. There is no toroid, between the capacitance of which and the ground charge moves. No high voltage, streamers and other effects.
Tesla coils consume a lot of energy but do not produce any additional energy.
Bobbin Kapanadze as a Tesla coil would operate at a very high frequency, a few megahertz.
Current clamps would show the weather on Mars at this frequency.

3. Spark Gap.

What can make such a weak discharge, as we see in the GreenBox video?
Can such a discharge affect current clamps through a long wire so that they formally show the desired current?
No. Moreover, from this, a power of 5000 watts appeared in the load from the light bulbs. No 100%.

I don't know any other possibilities.

4. Latent emission of charged particles from the device, for example, ions of some kind of gas. Kapanadze often held his presentations in open space, in the fresh air.
But I doubt that the emission of such a large number of charged particles can be imperceptible. It would be noticeable. That's 5000 watts. A 40 watt industrial ionizer produces such an effect that surrounding objects begin to produce sparks when touched. At 5000 watts there would be noticeable strange events near the device.

5. This is something new, unknown to anyone.
Violating Kirchhoff's law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff%27s_circuit_laws). Violating the law of conservation of charge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charge_conservation).
 Otherworldly, from another dimension, as Kapanadze says in a recently translated video.If there is some kind of interaction with gravity, time, the formation of our present, then such effects as an electric current from nowhere can occur.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 27, 2023, 09:42:24 AM
 ;) https://eurosamodelki.ru/katalog-samodelok/alternativnaja-energetika/pogovorim-o-Kapanadze-po-sledam-Budennogo-i-Kapanadze-

Quote:
Quote
Let's return to Budyonny's welding machine. The secondary windings of the main TR have a wire cross section of 2mm. And the secondary winding of the transformer included in its circuit has 7 turns with a cross section of 1.25mm. Thus, the conditions for the current reserve of the secondary windings of the TR are fulfilled.

As for the primary winding of the TR, it has a VARISTOR. I thought for a long time, why to protect the transformer from the 220 network with a varistor? It turns out to be the other way around, the varistor protects the network, not the transformer from impulse surges in the secondary, and as a consequence, the primary winding. Hence the name "INERECTIONAL".

In this figure also installed varistor, I will not go into details. Since we need to know only that this part of the circuit is responsible for the creation of high voltage. In our conditions for these purposes will go quite well "kacher" or TVS. But all right, then think for yourself. It's just a thought. And Budyonny's welding machine has nothing to do with it, it's the PRINCIPLE that matters!

Sergh, you knew the author of this article, I tried to track him down, but I was sent information not to look for him, he is no more. the last information he left was dated summer 2013. 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 27, 2023, 10:30:44 AM
Author's fantasies. He did not see KU221 thyristors in real life, so he would know that they are 2 times smaller in size than the same transistors, these components cannot be confused. You can try to request contact details here, but this is unlikely: http://ma-rina-s.narod.ru/gb

http://www.ma-rina-s.narod.ru/umel.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 27, 2023, 11:01:57 AM
Author's fantasies. He did not see KU221 thyristors in real life, so he would know that they are 2 times smaller in size than the same transistors, these components cannot be confused. You can try to request contact details here, but this is unlikely: http://ma-rina-s.narod.ru/gb

http://www.ma-rina-s.narod.ru/umel.html

Alas, this site has even removed material about his work on the generator. It's become a women's site. I checked that channel, they said not to look. I'm interested in people who knew him and knew what he was doing.

About the appearance comparison I immediately dropped, especially since he explicitly states that the CAPAGEN unit has transistors, you probably misinterpreted his narrative.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 27, 2023, 11:23:23 AM
Watch these videos better, you may have to wind "Teslia Bifilar"(c) from image with footprints of shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DZtpBa_GnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DZtpBa_GnA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AagO07cHRG8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AagO07cHRG8)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 27, 2023, 11:56:08 AM
Watch these videos better, you may have to wind "Teslia Bifilar"(c) from image with footprints of shoes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DZtpBa_GnA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DZtpBa_GnA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AagO07cHRG8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AagO07cHRG8)

The author from the first video should have wound it on a small tube to get a hole inside, and the electrode leads should be placed diagonally. As a capacitor I am not interested in this creation, only as a converter element, but I have this topic in another section. At the moment I am completing the project of electromagnetic induction and everything about "current generators".
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on July 27, 2023, 12:11:04 PM
 Sergh:

I did tests when you can see 24A current clamps on one wire.

Tesla coil gives electricity on one wire!
you will see the same when you give Spark Gap on one wire.

These are the possibilities I know.

Of course, as you say, there may be an additional cable inside, but what about other devices? Of course, it can always be done differently.

Aking21 - says that he saw how the aquarium works and knew how the grounding was disconnected for some time and the device was still working. Was he in league with them? I doubt.

If you have a spark gap on the ground wire, the current clamps see false data, but in the video we see very stable readings of 24A. The number doesn't jump. BUT you can set the power on the spark so that the current clamps will see any amperage. I've tried this and it works fine. I can do a 90A reading with a few Watt spark. However, this is a fraud or a measurement defect.

As for the tesla coil, the measurement is more difficult because we are limited by 400 Hz for the clamp current meter. If the sound is FM modulation then maybe it is the same as what we see on the ground wire. So we have about 360-400Hz of FM modulation with a few Mhz base for LC TT operation.
This is a good explanation. Only one problem remains! 24A is a lot if we have 220V. Then we are talking about a TT that has 24A at the cold end and a voltage of 220V or more and then we have a voltage drop and a filter.
I explained it perfectly :) but where is FE?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on July 27, 2023, 01:22:01 PM
One wire,spark,lower/higher - step ...- Volta-ge transformation ,lower/higher frequency,.....
Speed acceleration/deceleration(O Volt : cold ambient ,but : no positive and not negative Volt ! ZeroVoltpoint )
http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm (http://www.rexresearch.com/imris/imris.htm)
Volt x Ampere per serial connected lamp by ' 3200 lumen same' output !?
3200 lumen/40 Watt
3200 lumen/0,9 Watt
World-record ? ::)
Details/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20041202&CC=DE&NR=10320109A1&KC=A1#)
Volt x Ampere per serial connected lamp by ' ? lumen same' output !?
___________________________________________________________
Step by step R&D ! resistor : Ohm-resistance versus inverse Ohm = Siemens-resistance('conductance')
 electro-magnetic   electro-static   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_(unit (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_(unit))
technical= artificial   subjective versus objective view point and nomination (re-sistere,cum ducere )
 Puzzling,Gedankenspiele,Mindgame
wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg580529/#new (https://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg580529/#new)
 particle/wave and 'Quantum tunneling ' (nano-tube speed/resistance)
f.e.
https://www.google.com/search?q=borealis+quantum+tunneling+transistor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=borealis+quantum+tunneling+transistor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
 
Max Planck : Wirkungsquant,Quantenpaar,Quantenzahl  = Quantum mechanics
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom)
https://www.google.com/search?q=physics+paradoxons&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m (https://www.google.com/search?q=physics+paradoxons&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m)
         
Quantum space and Quantum time let us play with all known Hyper-/Physics'Paradoxon'-s
Where classical Physics Axioms becomes inverse-Axioms processes/effects  !

Gracian philosophy : the Format/Creation ; In-Format-ion/De-Format-ion,fix to volatil,re-/in-/version
In-/ Final : Verdikt ( local,temporal) panta rhei  ;)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 27, 2023, 03:12:04 PM
I did tests when you can see 24A current clamps on one wire.

Tesla coil gives electricity on one wire!
you will see the same when you give Spark Gap on one wire.
Measuring clamps are intended mainly for measuring sinusoidal alternating current with a frequency of 50-60 Hz.
There may be more advanced clamps that measure direct current or alternating current up to 1000 Hz.
But they are not designed to measure the current of chaotic pulses of megahertz frequency.
These are false displays of current strength.

Aking21 - says that he saw how the aquarium works and knew how the grounding was disconnected for some time and the device was still working. Was he in league with them? I doubt.
I remember that after Aking21 trip to Kapanadze, commentators expressed regret that he did not check the ground cable, suddenly a phase wire was hidden inside. But he seemed to check...
 About the fact that during the demonstration the grounding was turned off, I didn’t seem to read anywhere.
Maybe Aking21 will confirm these facts here?

This is a good explanation. Only one problem remains! 24A is a lot if we have 220V. Then we are talking about a TT that has 24A at the cold end and a voltage of 220V or more and then we have a voltage drop and a filter.

I don't see any Tesla coils in Kapanadze's video "GreenBox" or "Generator with a jar" that could do this. I see only a bobbin wound with an ordinary thick wire in PVC insulation. This is not what Tesla coils look like.

I explained it perfectly but where is FE?

Even if we saw a classic Tesla coil with a toroid on the hot side, I can’t imagine how such a coil could produce, apart the sparks and streamers,  at least some increase in energy, especially in such big amount, 100 times more than it is consumed.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on July 27, 2023, 03:28:51 PM

' .... Even if we saw a classic Tesla coil with a toroid on the hot side,
I can’t imagine how such a coil could produce, apart the sparks and streamers, 
at least some increase in energy, especially in such big amount, 100 times more than it is consumed. ...'
100 times more power translates ,as v³ effect,to 370% speed increase from the electricity/electron gas/plasma base velocity !
Base v=  1 or 100%  + 370 % = 470 % or 4,7
acceleration : v³ = 4,7 x 4,7 x 4,7 ~ 100
In Volt,in Hertz !?
wmbr
OCWL
p.s.: why Nikola Tesla developped his Tesla transformer ? Reading the EE historials !
Because in the 20' from the last century rotative machines in the KHz/MHz range were something financial and by production precision ' comercial : nearly ' impossible !
KHz and MHz in RPM,scaling
f.e. when              50 Hz or 60 Hz     = 3000/3600 RPM 500Hz/600 Hz       = 30 000 /36 000 RPM
KHz                  5000 Hz/6000 Hz   = 300 000/360 000 RPM
MHz                        1 000 000 Hz   =  60 000 000  RPM   
Not impossible,but expensive ! Short longetivity from friction parts ,like bearings et cet. !
Comparison : possible flywheel RPM max . ?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=highest+rpm+from+flywheel&oq=highest+rpm+from+flywheel&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l2 (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=highest+rpm+from+flywheel&oq=highest+rpm+from+flywheel&aqs=heirloom-srp..0l2)
Read about EE know-how and price : Charles Steinmetz/Henry Ford I
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/charles-proteus-steinmetz-the-wizard-of-schenectady-51912022/ (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/charles-proteus-steinmetz-the-wizard-of-schenectady-51912022/)

_________________________________________________________________

Henry Ford (http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/hf/) was thrilled until he got an invoice from General Electric in the amount of $10,000.
Ford acknowledged Steinmetz’s success but balked at the figure. He asked for an itemized bill.
Steinmetz, Scott wrote, responded personally to Ford’s request with the following:
Making chalk mark on generator    $1.  :P
Knowing where to make mark         $9,999.   8)
Ford paid the bill.

Law of hysteresis/Steinmetz Law , 'magnetic hysteresis' behaviour  : importance !
https://edisontechcenter.org/CharlesProteusSteinmetz.html (https://edisontechcenter.org/CharlesProteusSteinmetz.html)
What was so important about the hysteresis?
 Steinmetz figured out the mathematics involved in hysteresis.
Hysteresis loops show the behavior of magnetism in materials.
Understanding magnetism in iron cores (https://edisontechcenter.org/iron.html) was and is still key to design of motors, generators, ballasts and other electrical devices.
Steinmetz figured out the great mystery that all the greats of the time (Thomson, Tesla, Westinghouse, Shallenberger, Edison) had been stumped by.
No one before really understood the physics of what they were experimenting with.
This is how young Steinmetz was able to shock the whole field with his paper and presentation in New York.
Understanding electromagnetism became of increased importance in the 1880s as AC power involved growing and collapsing electromagnetic fields in devices.
The behavior of the core materials (usually soft iron) was not linear.
As you move up the curve (see the diagram above) lots of energy is required to magnetize the material.
Than when poles invert (in AC power) notice how as you move around the 'circle' it takes more energy to reverse the polarity.
Different materials have different hysteresis loop shapes.
Depending on how we design the material we can create materials that are easier or harder to magnetise or demagnetize. See our page on Magnetic Recording page (https://edisontechcenter.org/MagRec.html) to learn more.
Understanding magnetics boils down to quantum mechanics.
It takes a special type of mind with the right educational foundation to understand
__________________________________________________________
But : about hysterese and losts in transformer
COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google (https://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=3501076&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 27, 2023, 03:31:45 PM
  I can’t imagine how such a coil could produce, apart the sparks and streamers,  at least some increase in energy, especially in such big amount, 100 times more than it is consumed.
Famous among FE lovers, Atsyukovsky is convinced that TT is over-unit.
But I don't know say anything.I am doubt.  ???
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 27, 2023, 04:14:38 PM
To check the efficiency of a Tesla high-voltage coil (Tesla transformer) (not transformation, but generation of high-voltage potential), it is necessary to accumulate it somewhere, and then compare how much went to the corresponding generation.  The Tesla transformer, dissipates more than can be utilized in practical terms, but that does not negate its performance in any way.  If there are technologies to do maximum utilization in an intermediate source I think the result will surprise many people.

https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2023/01/blog-post_11.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oMOuy1EMY
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on July 28, 2023, 08:03:00 AM
To check the efficiency of a Tesla high-voltage coil  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oMOuy1EMY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8oMOuy1EMY)
Does he mean that he measures energy in sparks? So let him use one match, one match burns brighter than all these sparks.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 28, 2023, 09:50:43 AM
Does he mean that he measures energy in sparks? So let him use one match, one match burns brighter than all these sparks.

He is trying to collect what the Tesla Transformer dissipates. Unfortunately, the knowledge of how to demonstrate and measure this FE seeker is limited to short-circuiting the capacitor electrodes.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 28, 2023, 12:48:06 PM
There is also this variant from researchers about the design of Kapanadze's system

[Figure (https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjXQoMn3mV4EjM6cEsUS3-iAExIale10ROU-eMv2XK3XGZAkUey7TP1eqsWGakl_gdirlg6YIHooqPgpfpCgYRlkSxMV8cgexeu1rLxFGU2LAJys0HqaPXPFoLi9lQZeTTILC8TsnwkcqLgE7DOcA55v6akqCcb0dILXvCpWCtJHHOvUkQNOPTmCNFun08/s1064/2023-07-28_130627.jpg)]

I have added my comments to my blog.

https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2023/07/the-mystery-of-kapanadze-generator.html
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 28, 2023, 02:22:53 PM
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/50362954/tariel-kapanadze (https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/50362954/tariel-kapanadze)


It is a book.
1. First select  "new private window" in your browser.
2. than copy the link from the above quoted text  into that "new private window"
3. when you  open link  do not click on "ACCEPT COOKIES"
4. than make right click on "inspect"    or it could be word : "Inspect elements"
5. than you may already see highlighted line you need to delete
    if not than highlight  it.

here is that line:"

<div class="onetrust-pc-dark-filter ot-fade-in" style="z-index:2147483645;"></div>

6. right click on that line and select delete.
    The book will safely open up from that point .

7. after that if you still see the banner at the bottom  delete next already highlighted line .
The full window will be free to view document.
note:
it was checked with  most  browsers e.g  firefox.
___________________________________
some educational material how to deal with tracking cookies  is here:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1857471 (https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1857471)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dsquared18 on July 28, 2023, 03:42:47 PM
It is a book.

Here it is as a pdf.

D2
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 28, 2023, 04:25:01 PM

here is that line:"[/b]
<div class="onetrust-pc-dark-filter ot-fade-in" style="z-index:2147483645;"></div>


Yes, it works. I was removing this way annoying banners from the screen before.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 28, 2023, 07:50:43 PM
Until I failed. My computer does not open this content at all per se. Just the site header.
But for mercy, my computer is almost twenty years old. Tomorrow I'll try on another one, a little better...
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 28, 2023, 08:27:04 PM
Aha. I try.  thanks. It's interesting. I don't knew.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on July 29, 2023, 07:42:13 PM
Buy some very cheap used thin client wyse 5070 , add more ram and sdd and install linux like ubuntu or kubuntu. Works great! I switched to this from Core2 Duo processor which also worked quite enough.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on July 30, 2023, 11:39:05 AM
thin client
Surprisingly, I did not know about such things at all.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on July 30, 2023, 02:18:23 PM
guys here is something I need your  opinion  at:
I got a  message few days ago:
quote:
Кугушов нашёл спонсоров и развивает тему
Kugushev found sponsors and  is  going on with business.

and attached to it video that is not new but
it is stated is related to him :
БЕСТОПЛИВНЫE ГЕНЕРАТОРЫ ОТ КОМПАНИИ "Source-energy" на РОСТ FM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8E7rgIjHs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co8E7rgIjHs)
In Russian ROST FM channel.
here in this moment in the video  they talk  about  the inventor 
Aleksander Sergiejevich  Kugushev  who is in Spain .
https://youtu.be/co8E7rgIjHs?t=644 (https://youtu.be/co8E7rgIjHs?t=644)

I made few  videos about Kugushev years ago  he was in Spain than.

For these who do not  understand   Russian .
"Source-energy" Russian company talks about BTG  selfrunner  that  makes energy without any other   external energy delivery.

3 weeks ago:
comment under video.
Quote
Прошло 5 лет с момента выхода этого видео, а мы не увидели не этих чудесных генераторов, не этой технологий, надеюсь с учеными что разрабатывали эту технологию все в порядке, и их не убили как и все тех что разрабатывали подобное до них.А я бы приобрел такой БТГ на 10кв, самое то для дома.



Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 31, 2023, 08:57:07 AM
Kugushov is a cool guy, a lecturer at Donetsk University Ukraine, subject of electrical engineering.
 
"Alexander Sergeyevich Kugushev is an inventor and physicist. He invented the Infinity generator, which is a device for producing electrical energy from vacuum. However, even though Kugushev claimed that his generator worked on the basis of the Casimir effect1, his device was not recognized by the scientific community."

Ukrainian patent  UA30772  /11.03.2008  Self-propelled power plant "Cosmos"       https://uapatents.com/3-30772-samodiyucha-elektrostanciya-kosmos.html

I taught electrical engineering at Donetsk University until the end of 2014. After the Russian aggression in 2014, he left Ukraine and moved to Italy (he did not go to dirty Russia). He has patents, in the patent office of Ukraine (https://uapatents.com/patents/kugushov-oleksandr-sergijjovich), for various electromechanical and electromagnetic devices. I did not follow his further activities, but I know that in Italy he presented a generator without armature/rotor reaction in electricity generation. 


https://x-faq.ru/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1543.0;attach=3602;image

If you look visually at the design of his patented "utility model" devices, you can draw a parallel with the device of Clemente Figueras. But alas, without solving a single problem, as a generator, this design will not work. Probably the zest is hidden and not marked on the scheme and in the description, in the same way as in Figuer's patents.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on July 31, 2023, 01:39:57 PM
I won't claim anything, I know that a series of rollers (and these included) are made in Italy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlPx22UdnzY&t=32s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADsyHTq0iVw

Kugushov's YouTube Channel:   https://www.youtube.com/@user-yk3cy8yt8f

in an interview in one clip he says he lives in Italy. ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZLsOD448c )

In my interpretation, it is also a collaborator, someone who betrayed his homeland in favor of the occupier.  Like all pseudo-patriots of Russia, he supports Great Russia but lives in the West.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 01, 2023, 09:21:07 AM
his first replicator SR and than  Adrian Gushka, Ruslan,  Akula, Tiger and more,
Wesley
Kapanadze said that research on the gravitational generator had been carried out by a team of researchers since 1980.

"SR and than Adrian Gushka, Ruslan, Akula, Tiger and more"

Now who are these people? What kind of research did they have and with what team?
How to trick the brain with minor details, how to hide the wires from the outlet, or how to make a blurry picture on the video?

They don't have public presentations.
They don't have invariant devices.
They don't have a backstory.

 According to legend, the periodic table of elements came to Mendeleev in a dream.
But Mendeleev by that time was already a well-known chemist.
A cook, a loader or a carpenter cannot suddenly dream of the periodic table.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKapIGE8aU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zKapIGE8aU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viA291-voOc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viA291-voOc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxdDvmGJlbc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxdDvmGJlbc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn33_ySzB-w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn33_ySzB-w)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 01, 2023, 10:58:09 AM
Sergh, everything can be evaluated, analyzed and the device of the "inventor of the amateur" also.

By the way, Andrian Guska (aka Dnestr) was the first to address me, even before the publicizing of his handicraft for all. I explained to him that his self-propelled device, it is not possible to scale, at the output for the load was a conditional direct current, with the shape of the current as on the DC/DC converter. That his device was self-propelled exactly, but very low-power. I advised him with this crude device not to declare himself. Unfortunately he did not listen to me, youth is mostly stupidity. According to my version he was able to collect the dissipated electrical capacitance by Tesla coil, for self-propulsion mode and powering small devices like smartphone charger. on the input of which there is no difference AC, pulse or DC current.   It would be too complicated to scale. Too bad he wouldn't listen to me.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 01, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
Quote
Kugushov's YouTube Channel:
But these people say that this is брехня. :D
https://youtu.be/c_h-9T9Y6yI (https://youtu.be/c_h-9T9Y6yI)
(subtitles are available.)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 01, 2023, 01:31:22 PM
But these people say that this is брехня. :D
https://youtu.be/c_h-9T9Y6yI (https://youtu.be/c_h-9T9Y6yI)
(subtitles are available.)

The man is clearly Kugushov (I agree with him). All this movement around Kugushov looks like selling lunar soil, with no delivery function, only self-delivery.

The guy is far from right about the Turkish engineer: https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2020/03/blog-post.html

Muammer Yulduz did not openly sell anything to anyone, he wanted to do it very much, but according to the rules of the system with certifications, etc. He was not allowed to do it. No one allowed him to do it, neither in his native Turkey, nor in Italy, nor in Germany (Germany intended to buy the technology from him).
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 01, 2023, 03:16:20 PM
Muammer Yulduz did not openly sell anything to anyone, he wanted to do it very much, but according to the rules of the system with certifications, etc. He was not allowed to do it. No one allowed him to do it, neither in his native Turkey, nor in Italy, nor in Germany (Germany intended to buy the technology from him).
A typical excuse for info scammers.
Someone forbade them to produce perpetual motion machines.

In general, how do you imagine modern production?

There has been NO PRODUCTION in Western Europe for at least 20 years.
I myself saw the empty giant workshops of Siemens and talked with former workers, engineers and electricians.
  There is no production in the USA either. Look at Detroit. And so everywhere. Small workshops or industries with low labor costs. A small part of the status production, for example, the automotive industry, where only the final assembly remained.
In Russia, the entire industry is ruined, and even earlier in the days of the USSR it was very backward.
There is still something left in Turkey, the same concern Vestel, where Kapanadze went, but it’s not a fact that everything they have is not from China, Vietnam or India.

When the coronovirus epidemic began, toilet paper and antibiotics disappeared in Germany. How do you think why?

So no one will prohibit, there is simply no one to produce.
And anyway, what are we talking about?

Are you going to organize the production yourself? Do you have many millions of dollars?

If you have something to produce, you have a working model, you have at least some documentation:
  - you need an investor who will organize everything. Who will pay for cross-patenting, pay for the development of design and technological documentation, pay for marketing research, pay for an advertising campaign, find a suitable plant in China that does not care what to produce, conclude an agreement with this plant and pay for the production of a trial batch of your generators, pay for certification in any country in the world, distribute your product to retail chains with deferred payment, pay for service and warranty repairs, etc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalization
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 01, 2023, 03:53:40 PM
Sergh

https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg580724/#msg580724

If there was no production, there would be no market, and clouds of unemployed would bring down the system anywhere. No one disputes that production is down.

About the Turkish generator, they had a small production, even with the Italian planned to sell off a small batch after the demo in 2019, to make such a distribution breakthrough. But the system reacted instantly. You can consumer "cash cow" about it not me.

These guys don't brush up on their information well:

https://gaia-energy.org/prasentation-yildiz-motor-5-07-juli-in-belluno-it/?fbclid=IwAR1b5lwohlqPh-u-xLQO9A3Lle-n5yy2i3_4YvZKXugej-9U4JYIMLFPKrc

on the photo of the alternator there is a metallized nameplate, which indicates the date of manufacture, power characteristics and serial number, etc. Such an element is unnecessary on a single model.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 02, 2023, 08:45:40 AM
Probably held a party for investors' money.
We listened to a lecture, watched a presentation about a perpetuum mobile through the projector?

Such a label can be printed:
https://www.whitewall.com/us/metal-prints (https://www.whitewall.com/us/metal-prints)
Stamped lettering can also be inexpensive:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805168796581.html (https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805168796581.html)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 02, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
Sergh, your last post is clearly under the guidance and instructions of "trolls" from the commission to combat pseudoscience of the Russian Academy of Sciences. You don't want to see the obvious, your business, but denial of the obvious is a diagnosis or specificity of work on the system.

Why make a nameplate on the installation if on other previous similar in single copies of such an element is simply absent for lack of need. It is an attribute of seriality, and production to indicate belonging.


The International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) develops global standards for electrical and electronic products. IEC standards cover electrical safety, labeling, performance, test methods, and other guidelines for electrical and electronic products1 (https://www.compliancegate.com/electronic-product-regulations-european-union/).
In the European Union, electronic and electrical products imported and manufactured are subject to safety standards, labeling, documentation, and testing requirements2 (https://www.compliancegate.com/electronic-product-regulations-european-union/).
For more information on labeling/marking requirements in the EU, you can visit the International Trade Administration website.

https://www.trade.gov/country-commercial-guides/eu-labelingmarking-requirements

I hope this helps! 

That's how it looks legal if the intent was to sell a small batch.

 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 02, 2023, 12:16:53 PM
Firstly, the Russian Academy has long been indifferent to this.
And why should they fight magicians, since this mass phenomenon of info scam about free energy on the Internet has nothing to do with pseudoscience.
   More pseudo-academies of pseudosciences were created in Russia than in any other country. "Russian Academy of Natural Sciences" for example (RAEN). And no one fights them there. If you want to easily become an academician, contact them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Academy_of_Natural_Sciences (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Academy_of_Natural_Sciences)
Further..
What percentage of the 200 million pages on Google on the topic of free energy can contain truthful and useful information?
I guess 1, 2, 3, ... 10 pages, but not percent  :-\
How do you suppose?
Do all 200 million free energy links on Google lead to honest presentations of really working useful devices?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 02, 2023, 01:18:47 PM
Sergh, look you are again openly misleading. The Commission is a repressive body under the Russian Academy of Sciences, it still exists, for budget money. 

http://klnran.ru/about/

However, there is a positive moment, for example, this material is about a clearly fraudulent site selling "sewing machines" under the guise of "perpetual motion machines".

How do they make money on perpetual motion machines? (http://klnran.ru/2015/10/perpetuum-mobile-business/)

Why are they funded? I have long ago told in this video (though in Russian)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Zr1t5NqQI&t=25s

Quote
President Putin against energy conservation and green technologies
Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of May 13, 2017 No. 208 "On the Strategy for Economic Security of the Russian Federation for the period until 2030"
Section II "Challenges and threats to economic security"
12. To the main challenges and threats to economic security
relate:
6) the change in the structure of global demand for energy resources and Structure of their consumption, development of energy-saving technologies andReduction of material intensity, development of "green technologies";

Decree link: http://kremlin.ru/acts/bank/41921
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 02, 2023, 01:27:03 PM
Do you realize that because of this 200,000,000 info scam on the Internet, you and I now look like clowns?
 >:(
That under no circumstances should one mention Kapanadze or free energy in ordinary life, otherwise we will be called fools behind our backs?
 :-X
There was no such situation 10-15 years ago, until there was this Internet hysteria on such a scale.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 02, 2023, 01:46:12 PM
Why do you think there's such a pun show on the net with free energy systems?  It's also part of the work of shaping public opinion, which is well-funded and successful. By the way, I don't care what anyone calls me, and I don't work with losers and fools.
 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 02, 2023, 05:47:43 PM
I'll add a little something new to your discussion.
July 26, David Grusch in Congress acknowledged the existence of UFOs and extraterrestrial biological life.
Does this mean that perpetual motion machines are possible there for alien civilizations?
Maybe there is no a law of conservation of energy there ?
And  the laws of thermodynamics are different to them ? ;)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: pix on August 02, 2023, 06:17:24 PM
@kobalcit
Don't be like on that meme.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 02, 2023, 07:54:20 PM
Hmm... I heard that on your BBC. It means that BBC   has not believed ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 04, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
For Wesley,
Patents about wireless energy transfer:

https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20146089B (https://patents.google.com/patent/GEP20146089B)

https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2007008646A2 (https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2007008646A2)

https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2115239C1/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/RU2115239C1/en)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on August 04, 2023, 05:27:07 PM
Wesley ,is it not ,
that M1(Mass at rest)- M2(Mass at c velocity) = relative/resultive mass m ?
e= (M1-M2)c²

What meaned N.Tesla with :   e=tc² ?
m equivalent with t ? Condition ?


wmbr
OCWL
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 04, 2023, 06:07:34 PM
mass-energy equivalence for a mass AT REST. :)
E = mc^2
Mass-energy equivalence is the concept that mass and energy are one and the same (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence)1 (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence)  It is based on Einstein's theory of special relativity (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence)1 (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence).
The equation that represents this concept is E = mc^2, where E is energy, m is mass, and c is the speed of light1 (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence) 4 (https://testbook.com/learn/physics-mass-energy-equivalence/) 5 (https://the-equivalent.com/mass-energy-equivalence-equation/).
This equation is simplified for an object at rest (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence)1 (https://energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Mass-energy_equivalence)
The full equation includes the energy of a moving object (https://the-equivalent.com/mass-energy-equivalence/)2 (https://the-equivalent.com/mass-energy-equivalence/)

mass–energy equivalence is the relationship between mass (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass) and energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy) in a system's rest frame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rest_frame)
where the two quantities differ only by a multiplicative constant and the units of measurement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass%E2%80%93energy_equivalence)


Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 11, 2023, 12:48:20 AM
simple  and working 100%
Thermoelectric Generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1XKUYd4GFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1XKUYd4GFE)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 15, 2023, 12:52:38 PM
Seventeen  wires from motor. 4 phase BLDC.
Soviet Union, nineteen sixtieth from cosmos.
Help to start, there is no marking of the motor and the diagram.  :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 15, 2023, 02:13:16 PM
Video was presented in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZckaMOlixqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZckaMOlixqw)
Where  one wire transmission  using 8  micron wire  thickness  experiment  was  provided.
kolbacict  can you help me to find what happened to these guys.
 I saw  another video  in Florida USA where Russian guy presents the  same... but cant  find it.
 Was it the same guy?
What is the model of this generator GZ- 120?
 and what is the range  of frequency  set on it.
103 ?
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 15, 2023, 05:58:21 PM

103 ?
Wesley
Aha.
https://armadatest.net/product/g3-120/ (https://armadatest.net/product/g3-120/)
https://youtu.be/aOJ12mYpro8 (https://youtu.be/aOJ12mYpro8)  https://youtu.be/7kMh8Z_cr2w (https://youtu.be/7kMh8Z_cr2w)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 16, 2023, 12:17:09 PM
Video was presented in 2012.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZckaMOlixqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZckaMOlixqw)
Where  one wire transmission  using 8  micron wire  thickness  experiment  was  provided.

This video is similar to Avramenko's fork.  :-\
No specific measurements of input and output power and energy are provided. No comparison with existing high-voltage power lines in the form of real data.
They must have been wrong. They would not be able to use a wire with a thickness of 8 microns, since such a wire would be torn from any movement or air flow. Commercially available standard wires have a diameter of 0.08 mm.
 It's actually a very thin wire. But it is 80 microns. Such a wire can withstand current up to 0.025 amperes. At a voltage of 100 kilovolts, 2 500 watts will pass through this wire without overheating.
Well, or a few times more if you do not pay attention to heating more than acceptable, which can damage the insulation, which in this case is not relevant.

https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/ (https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/)

https://duino.ru/media/tok-mednogo-provoda.html (https://duino.ru/media/tok-mednogo-provoda.html)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 16, 2023, 02:50:32 PM
kolbacict - I do  THANK YOU VERY  MUCH for the links.

This video is similar to Avramenko's fork.  :-\
No specific measurements of input and output power and energy are provided. No comparison with existing high-voltage power lines in the form of real data.
They must have been wrong. They would not be able to use a wire with a thickness of 8 microns, since such a wire would be torn from any movement or air flow. Commercially available standard wires have a diameter of 0.08 mm.
 It's actually a very thin wire. But it is 80 microns. Such a wire can withstand current up to 0.025 amperes. At a voltage of 100 kilovolts, 2 500 watts will pass through this wire without overheating.
Well, or a few times more if you do not pay attention to heating more than acceptable, which can damage the insulation, which in this case is not relevant.

https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/ (https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/)

https://duino.ru/media/tok-mednogo-provoda.html (https://duino.ru/media/tok-mednogo-provoda.html)
I agree.
In the original video the guy( the  one  having dental problem)
Says that: this wire serves as waveguide for the  wave that  goes along the wire.
here:  https://youtu.be/ZckaMOlixqw?t=105 (https://youtu.be/ZckaMOlixqw?t=105)

on the link:
https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/ (https://www.ruscable.ru/info/wire/mark/petv/)
we see wire  covered with enamel.
That 2D(two dimensional)  space between   wire  and enamel that for us doesn't look like space  it is a highway for EM wave to travel at  very specific  conditions.
wire is conductor  enamel   is dielectric = interface= waveguide requires conditions of
Quote
G-line - a type of waveguide, rather than a wire in an electric circuit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line)
But  I do not see these condition being met  in this Russian experiment .
In that particular  Russian video  we see however  generator  not more that 500kHz max having two outputs  and using only one  of them  that is giving out  sinusoidal signal.
The  generator has maximum voltage of 5V   but I'm not sure  about  what the dial switch set on 20, on the left to the V-meter   is for?
The generator is set on the video to 1kHz
(Please look at the picture below)
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192526/image//
Wesley
 
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 16, 2023, 04:32:45 PM
They would not be able to use a wire with a thickness of 8 microns, since such a wire would be torn from any movement or air flow.


I also was thinking about that.  They probably lost one zero.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 16, 2023, 10:56:50 PM
we see wire  covered with enamel.
That 2D(two dimensional)  space between   wire  and enamel that for us doesn't look like space  it is a highway for EM wave to travel at  very specific  conditions.
wire is conductor  enamel   is dielectric = interface= waveguide requires conditions of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line)

Interface - is one of forms of  waveguide TM mode ( Transverse Magnetic)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(electromagnetism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(electromagnetism))

The most common one is:
- dielectric and conductive medium  such enamel and copper  wire or plate or plane.
   a. The space between dielectric and conductive medium is a highway for EM wave.
   b. The space between air and copper wire plate or plain  is a highway for EM wave.
   c. The space between air and  Earth(partially conductive)is a highway for EM wave

https://youtu.be/aOJ12mYpro8?t=223 (https://youtu.be/aOJ12mYpro8?t=223)
Exactly in this very point in the  video Russian  experimenter says :
Quote
This wire acts as a waveguide.
Current doesn't go  inside of the wire .. it means... the electromagnetic wave goes along the wire
....the same is with  lightning, ..if the lightning  would  go inside of ground wire  there would be no wire .....

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2023, 01:35:54 AM
 So in regards to  Russian Generator used in the experiment that was shown here:
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192519/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192519/image//)

Here is a  video of Russian  butcher  who made me angry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR9KwbOqN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR9KwbOqN0)

I could use words like savages .
Imagine my friends that such hyenas  are destroying beauty of the past  that could be used to educate  children./
I would pay this S.B. 3 times more he has got from it .. for every piece they trashed. Just to save it .
And than someone may ask me to show some respect to the true  face  every day  seen as a representation  of that culture, language, tradition  and other values.!!!!!!!!!!!
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............................
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2023, 02:41:00 AM
 This is main frequency tuning  RPP made from palladium wire   winded with very clever way.
 The ZigZak  https://youtu.be/XlGDE6JEd2o?t=49 (https://youtu.be/XlGDE6JEd2o?t=49)
 A World Gas Station  - that no longer makes such beauties  was the result of collapse of value.
 All of it is important to us to find more about technology of the past presented by the few who were lucky to be  educated
 in Soviet Time .
All the money  you guys wish to make  is in this concept.
So by having  A to B energy transfer  one can become an energy reseller with, no wires, and not limited by national borders or  other political boundaries
-using the interface earth/air.
But first   there is learning curve with one wire energy transfer.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 17, 2023, 08:26:13 AM
These are all the judgments of adepts of wave resonances, and in fact the skin effect on a conductor.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_effect

The skin effect is an electromagnetic phenomenon which means that at high frequency, electric current circulates only on the surface of conductors. This electromagnetic phenomenon exists for all conductors through which alternating currents flow. It causes the current density to decrease as you move away from the periphery of the conductor.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 17, 2023, 08:34:59 AM
Here is a  video of Russian  butcher  who made me angry:
  :)
It annoys me too. If I type in Google the name of some device, a bunch of first links will be about the content of precious metals. If people are not interested in the parameters of the device, how to use it, and so on. But only what can be broken out from it to fill its belly, this country has no future. :(
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on August 17, 2023, 08:44:04 AM
This is the usual Tesla coil energy transfer. The inductor is just very wide. This tells us that we have power there in Amps and that the frequency is low. It is enough to read about the principle of operation of the Tesla coil. What affects its parameters.
The wire with the led has two functions: it is a receiver from the tesla coil and it is a virtual ground. Cable length.
The same can be done with 1 LED by connecting a Tesla coil on one side and a long cable, e.g. 1m, on the other.

In my opinion, the generator is set to ~ 5V because it is only the initial phase of the signal. Later, this signal is amplified in the second stage. The frequency is very low if that's true. However, according to me, the frequency is from 100-300kHz or higher, why? Because when looking at mass-produced induction cookers, the frequency depends on their output power. The stronger it is, the higher the frequency. E.g. <1kW = 90-120kHz, > 2kW = 140-170Khz.
These are examples and each manufacturer has different parameters but it shows that 25kW can be even >500Khz.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on August 17, 2023, 10:39:17 AM
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2017/07/free-energy-system-generator.html (https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2017/07/free-energy-system-generator.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 17, 2023, 12:13:31 PM
Says that: this wire serves as waveguide for the  wave that  goes along the wire.
here:  https://youtu.be/ZckaMOlixqw?t=105 (https://youtu.be/ZckaMOlixqw?t=105)
These people made the "discovery" or the assumption that metals have a gigantic, almost infinitely great dielectric constant. Probably hoping that it is impossible to prove both this and the opposite because of the high conductivity of metals.
And in their opinion, the alternating current propagates through the conductor as through the dielectric of a capacitor with an infinitely large capacitance. From this proceed their other conclusions about propagation along the wire. They probably read a books about microwaves, about the Goubau line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line), but did not pay attention to the huge difference in frequencies.
I don't understand how much they enjoy it.
In that particular  Russian video  we see however  generator  not more that 500kHz max having two outputs  and using only one  of them  that is giving out  sinusoidal signal.
The  generator has maximum voltage of 5V  but I'm not sure  about  what the dial switch set on 20, on the left to the V-meter   is for?
The generator is set on the video to 1kHz
(Please look at the picture below)
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192526/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192526/image//)
Wesley
From these pictures, I can assume that the generator produces 8 kilohertz at the output.  From the pictures you can see that this is the number 8 multiplied by 10^3.
The switch performs the function of an output signal attenuator. That is, in this position, it should decrease the output signal level by 20 decibels, (https://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Decibels-Calculator.phtml) about 10 times in voltage amplitude. This is maximum 0,5 V on 600 Ohm load or 1.0 V with no load.
But I see on the bottom photo that the attenuator knob is set to 10 decibels, which means that under load the output can be up to 1.6 volts, and without load up to 3.16 volts.
A variable resistor under the voltmeter can adjust the amplitude under load from 1 to 5 volts, probably without load it will be from 2 to 10 volts. It is set to a position close to the minimum. Probably, the amplitude is set by the voltmeter with a variable resistor, and with a step attenuator it is additionally lowered if necessary.
Conclusions: the generator output is connected to a load of more than 600 ohms.
The output voltage is less than 0.5 volts.
Here is a  video of Russian  butcher  who made me angry:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR9KwbOqN0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyR9KwbOqN0)
I don't care. Someone needs to dispose of the old scrap. Soviet measuring instruments were often of poor quality even in their youth.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2023, 02:27:42 PM
From this proceed their other conclusions about propagation along the wire. They probably read a books about microwaves, about the Goubau line (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goubau_line), but did not pay attention to the huge difference in frequencies.
Very good point I agree.
But than a question would be why frequency must be high?
Dr James Corum did all of these tests.
144MHz then 52MHz then 1.8 MHz then 132kHz and then 18kHz for Surface Zenneck Wave in the interface.
_____________________________
From these pictures, I can assume that the generator produces 8 kilohertz at the output.  From the pictures you can see that this is the number 8 multiplied by 10^3.
Yes  I do apologize0 -  that what look for me  like 0 is in  reality 8.
So yes the frequency they used is 8kHz.


The switch performs the function of an output signal attenuator. That is, in this position, it should decrease the output signal level by 20 decibels, (https://www.daycounter.com/Calculators/Decibels-Calculator.phtml) about 10 times in voltage amplitude. This is maximum 0,5 V on 600 Ohm load or 1.0 V with no load.
But I see on the bottom photo that the attenuator knob is set to 10 decibels, which means that under load the output can be up to 1.6 volts, and without load up to 3.16 volts.
Again good  point. Thank you  but I have problem with 600 ohm.

A variable resistor under the voltmeter can adjust the amplitude under load from 1 to 5 volts, probably without load it will be from 2 to 10 volts. It is set to a position close to the minimum. Probably, the amplitude is set by the voltmeter with a variable resistor, and with a step attenuator it is additionally lowered if necessary.
I agree.

Conclusions: the generator output is connected to a load of more than 600 ohms.
The output voltage is less than 0.5 volts
The output impedance  at BNC is  is 50 Ohm not 600 Ohm.
I don't care. Someone needs to dispose of the old scrap.
Soviet measuring instruments were often of poor quality even in their youth.
I must disagree.
In Russia there are plenty of children and young  students who would be happy to have such
tool.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
https://rakatskiy.blogspot.com/2017/07/free-energy-system-generator.html (https://rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog/2017/07/free-energy-system-generator.html?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp)
good lecture thank you.
https://patents-google-com.translate.goog/patent/US3289015?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_hist=true
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 17, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
The output impedance  at BNC is  is 50 Ohm not 600 Ohm.
The designers of these low-frequency generators did not pay attention to the impedance of the connector. They just used it as a connector. At such low frequencies, the impedance of the connector does not matter much.

There is official documentation for this generator:

https://rw6ase.narod.ru/index1/pribor/generator/g3_120.djvu (https://rw6ase.narod.ru/index1/pribor/generator/g3_120.djvu)

It states that the nominal load resistance for this generator is 600 ohms. With this load resistance, the generator has a maximum voltage of 5 volts at the output. Without load, meaning at a load of much greater resistance, for example 1 megaohm, the output can be up to 10 volts.
When the resistance is less than 600 ohms, the output voltage decreases. This can be calculated using formula 8.1 from the documentation on page 20. In any case, the current in the load must not exceed 0.008 Amperes, otherwise it may lead to a malfunction of the device.
But than a question would be why frequency must be high?
Dr James Corum did all of these tests.
144MHz then 52MHz then 1.8 MHz then 132kHz and then 18kHz for Surface Zenneck Wave in the interface.

Estimate the size of these surface waves for a frequency of 10 kilohertz. They will be many times the length of the entire wire and the free space around. And how can it work? These guys will not get any low-frequency surface waves at all.

If they pulled their wire between the Moon and the Earth, then maybe it would work like the Goubau line (https://www.google.com/search?q=Goubau+line&tbm=isch). But you would also need cyclopean horns at the ends of this conductor to transform the impedances.

If you are going to create low frequency waves on the surface of the Earth - then ok. You are using a planetary scale and you need an appropriate huge system to create them. Like Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 17, 2023, 10:02:26 PM




Sergh
I must admit I was only now strike by the fact that:
-You are really good. I'm impressed.
But  I'm not at all worse in art of EM wave and more than that I'm confident  I am certain. I am sure. I have no doubt.
Could I be wrong ? Shure I can, but that would be a big surprise to myself too. - unless I'll make a simple mistake.
____________________________________________________________________


The designers of these low-frequency generators did not pay attention to the impedance of the connector.
They just used it as a connector.
There is official documentation for this generator:
https://rw6ase.narod.ru/index1/pribor/generator/g3_120.djvu (https://rw6ase.narod.ru/index1/pribor/generator/g3_120.djvu)

It states that the nominal load resistance for this generator is 600 ohms. // 5 volts at the output.
Without load, ~1 megaohm,// 10 volts.
current in the load must not exceed 0.008 Amperes, otherwise it may lead to a malfunction of the device.
I agree
Диапазон частот: 5 Гц-500 кГц (5 поддиапазонов).
Пределы допускаемой основной погрешности установки:частоты: ±[3+(30/а)];
выходного напряжения: ±6 % (20 Гц-500 кГц); ±10 % (5 Гц-20 Гц).
Выходное напряжение: 5 В (600 Ом).
Коэффициент гармоник, %: 0,3 (20-200 Гц); 0,1 (200 Гц-20 кГц); 0,5 (20-200 кГц), 1 (200-500 кГц).
Нестабильность частоты: ±2·10-8 до 200 кГц; ±5·10-3 до 600 кГц (на 13 мин); ±2·10-2 (за 3 ч)
Сдвиг частоты (в режиме ЧТ): от 6 Гц до 2 кГц с дискретностью 1 Гц.
Параметры сигнала прямоугольной формы:амплитуда а В (600 OM);
скважность: 2.
Длительность фронта и среза: 50 нс.
_____________________________________________________

At such low frequencies, the impedance of the connector does not matter much.
I agree for BNC connector only if it is a sort of compromise between 50 and 75 Ohm for
PSM-32 selective voltmeter  having generator build in
As you see on the picture  for 150 and 600 Ohm there  is separate input for Rx  and output for Tx
-----------------
HP3586B is  holding the same rules just a little  differently. - selective voltmeter no generator build in.
Signalcrafters model 110 uses BNC for unbalanced  and Banana plug  for balanced .
selective voltmeter  having generator build in
http://signalcrafters.com/Files/Model%20110.pdf (http://signalcrafters.com/Files/Model%20110.pdf)
but :
- impedance of a transmission line and matching load is very important  at any frequency.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2023, 12:24:59 AM
Estimate the size of these surface waves for a frequency of 10 kilohertz.
They will be many times the length of the entire wire and the free space around.
And how can it work?
These guys will not get any low-frequency surface waves at all.
If they pulled their wire between the Moon and the Earth, then maybe it would work like the Goubau line (https://www.google.com/search?q=Goubau+line&tbm=isch).
But you would also need cyclopean horns at the ends of this conductor to transform the impedances.
If you are going to create low frequency waves on the surface of the Earth - then ok.
You are using a planetary scale and you need an appropriate huge system to create them. Like Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower.
Well:
Size of the wave period ( frequency) is not important - not so much important - important to the extend but.. we can deal with it.
- Depends from the situation and  goal to be achieved .
e.g. 1/10 000 of the wavelength antenna  still works at VLF and tunes  not as sharp as you might  think it would.
Efficiency is not that critically bad and Bandwidth is still acceptable for modern technology.
However - there is  not much technology there  or hardly any at VLF.
Basic stuff.

Goubau line has  many variations. Russian experimenters  didn't obey  impedance match exactly but close enough. ( ~5m distance  from Rx to Tx)
Effect was not Avramienko as they  used Sinusoidal  AC /
Professional equipment  working at VLF  made for PLC was at must  to help accurate impedance match -applicable  at 500kV  power lines
where  tuned traps must have been  installed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_trap (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_trap)
This equipment we used  for 17kHz Tesla Coil  impedance matching.


Note: the (  red/black. )wire on the pictures  is shown as coiled  but normally it must be 5cm of space between them
All  of the devices are made to be AC or Battery operated at the environment of a very heavy interference field . typical to PLC
Note:  On the pictures below  you see primary  winding of Tesla  coil.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2023, 01:02:24 AM
more is here: https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg579717/#msg579717 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg579717/#msg579717)
 I was measuring and impedance   matching at  frequency as low as 150Hz
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 18, 2023, 07:47:31 AM
Someone needs to dispose of the old scrap. Soviet measuring instruments were often of poor quality even in their youth.
In Russia the mutant of soviet Union there are plenty of children and young  students who would be happy to have such
tool. $1 is now 91 ruble and  Russia do not  make anything they could buy.
I agree with kolbacict:
So turn out I'm so sentimental...

p.s.  Here are some more.
https://youtu.be/Rexp-XrbgIk (https://youtu.be/Rexp-XrbgIk)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 18, 2023, 12:16:46 PM
Here are some more.
https://youtu.be/Rexp-XrbgIk (https://youtu.be/Rexp-XrbgIk)
https://youtu.be/ZdspnxjREiY?t=88 (https://youtu.be/ZdspnxjREiY?t=88)
https://youtu.be/E_wUN5jpIEw?t=85 (https://youtu.be/E_wUN5jpIEw?t=85)
The guy understand not much, talks nonsense  but  he is able to  present  phenomena quite well.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 18, 2023, 02:20:33 PM
I agree for BNC connector only if it is a sort of compromise between 50 and 75 Ohm for
PSM-32 selective voltmeter  having generator build in
As you see on the picture  for 150 and 600 Ohm there  is separate input for Rx  and output for Tx
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HP3586B is  holding the same rules just a little  differently. - selective voltmeter no generator build in.
Signalcrafters model 110 uses BNC for unbalanced  and Banana plug  for balanced .
selective voltmeter  having generator build in
http://signalcrafters.com/Files/Model%20110.pdf (http://signalcrafters.com/Files/Model%20110.pdf)
but :
- impedance of a transmission line and matching load is very important  at any frequency.
These devices you refer to are designed for high-frequency measurements up to several tens of megahertz.
The G3-120 generator is designed for low-frequency measurements up to 0.5 MHz.
Coaxial connector with 50 ohm impedance in a low-frequency device with an output impedance of 600 ohms to infinity. This connector is a inhomogeneities in the line.
For a wave, this inhomogeneity represents a step. But for the formation of a reflected wave, this step must be at least somehow commensurate in size with the length of at least a quarter of the wave. Otherwise, it looks like you threw a match on an ocean wave during a storm and hope that this will stop the storm.

There are special devices for determining line inhomogeneities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-domain_reflectometer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-domain_reflectometer)
Pay attention to the risetime of the test pulses and compare them with the duration of a quarter wave at a frequency of 500 kilohertz.
Heterogeneities in the transmission line would be relevant for a long line length. But a meter long cables are included with this generator G3-120, of course, the propagation and significant reflection of the wave in such a short segment is impossible. Imagine an ocean wave. Mentally cut out a 1 mm segment from it to keep the scale. What will you observe in such a short period? Is it possible to understand that this is a piece of a giant wave? How to create a wave of water, for example, 30 meters long, having a pool 1 millimeter long?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on August 18, 2023, 02:40:00 PM
Russian experimenters  didn't obey  impedance match exactly but close enough.

I didn’t quite understand who you are writing about, but if about those that I designated as "Avramenko’s fork", then the matter is probably different there.
They believed in the high dielectric constant of conductors, then began to draw some conclusions.

But forgetting about them, there is still some opportunity to make it a more realistic method.
You can't put an elephant in a matchbox, but, maybe you can get low frequency waves in your pocket.
How? You will have to reduce the elephant to the size of a matchbox.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_factor

a special dielectric is needed, which greatly reduces the propagation speed of electromagnetic waves, i.e. reducing the speed of light.

maybe this:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/1999/02/physicists-slow-speed-of-light/
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 18, 2023, 05:04:16 PM
here I will support Serge. BNC connectors are used in most Soviet devices simply as a shielded connector.  For example, oscilloscopes are all equipped with such connectors, although they usually have an input resistance of 1 MΩ and a capacitance of tens of pF.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: a.king21 on August 21, 2023, 03:31:40 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


I have found out today that KAPANADZE DIED FROM COVID APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR AGO.
R.I.P.


I am trying to contact his friends to see if anyone knows the secret.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: x_name41 on August 22, 2023, 11:36:08 PM
Here is a schematic diagram "idea" [without claims] that came to me once )
the primary coil is  with a large Q factor, this is a massive coil wound with a thick stranded wire, approximately 30 meters long and 4 mm thick, similar to Tariel coil, due to the high Q factor through its interruption from the switch, this leads to very powerful high-voltage pulses and current from the ground, at very little consumption, she it is one plate of the capacitor, the other plate is connected to the load and one end of the inverter which is an artificial phase because its other end is connected to the ground, the second coil can look like foil.
if you know the capacitance of this kind of capacitor and the inductance of the primary coil, then you can get the required resonant frequency of this circuit. It is possible to switch the transistor with 50 hertz pack of pulses corresponding to the resonant frequency of the loop...
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on August 23, 2023, 12:56:20 PM
IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT:


I have found out today that KAPANADZE DIED FROM COVID APPROXIMATELY ONE YEAR AGO.
R.I.P.


I am trying to contact his friends to see if anyone knows the secret.

Is this an associate of Kapanadze ?:
https://www.youtube.com/@giakobauri6396/videos
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on August 27, 2023, 09:23:50 AM
How do I to make electrostatic attenuator ?
As an ordinary voltage divider with resistors like, but using infinite resistance ?
It will be used for working with electrostatic voltmeter together.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 30, 2023, 07:19:42 PM
How do I to make electrostatic attenuator ?
As an ordinary voltage divider with resistors like, but using infinite resistance ?
It will be used for working with electrostatic voltmeter together.
https://www.lumentum.com/en/products/electrostatic-mems-variable-optical-attenuator (https://www.lumentum.com/en/products/electrostatic-mems-variable-optical-attenuator)
-not exactly but close.
look at the last picture below
 - Lumentum Electrostatic MEMS Variable Optical Attenuators (ESVOA).jpg

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You may also look at how electrostatic attenuation tester is build.
https://www.gester-instruments.com/electrostatic-charge-attenuation-tester-gt-rc10_p824.html (https://www.gester-instruments.com/electrostatic-charge-attenuation-tester-gt-rc10_p824.html)

or here:
https://patents.google.com/patent/CN203178373U/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/CN203178373U/en)
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Another method  is phototransistor and diode LED in chip-  inexpensive and reliable. - tansoptor.
PC817X Series contains an IRED optically coupled to a phototransistor.
https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/43371/SHARP/PC817.html (https://www.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/pdf/43371/SHARP/PC817.html)



here is an example of optical separation for stability of measurement:
HI-4417 Holaday
 Here is manual:
https://manualzz.com/doc/24013099/hi-4417 (https://manualzz.com/doc/24013099/hi-4417)
I have it  too.
The device was in  production since 1999.
Originally it cost good Mercedes but now you can buy  only for  few thousands .
Pictures  below.


Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on August 30, 2023, 07:26:01 PM
some interesting videos and channels:
Half Chinese Half  white recommended  by Veritasium as Chinese Veritasium  girl :
Building the Vehicle Physicists Called Impossible (feat. Veritasium)

ALL Carbon Fiber: My Fastest, Highest, Craziest Rocket YET!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvK8EFJQzw&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvK8EFJQzw&t=2s)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvK8EFJQzw&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvK8EFJQzw&t=2s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgajGv4Aok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUgajGv4Aok) version of Veritasium related to - faster than wind /
 
link to her channel is here:https://www.youtube.com/@xylafoxlin/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@xylafoxlin/videos)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 01, 2023, 01:55:02 AM
 Channel of:Xyla Foxlin


Man can be left behind - amazing made by woman in another woman's own  professional  business of making propellers
Making a WOODEN Airplane Propeller!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLDg7P5lO8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLDg7P5lO8)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 02, 2023, 08:49:17 AM
I did discovery for me today.
https://cordis.europa.eu/ (https://cordis.europa.eu/)
What is this? Can it to help us ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 02, 2023, 03:00:30 PM
CORDIS stands for Community Research and Development Information Service.
If you  have something to offer than you'll get  founding- money at certain conditions but:
- you need to be an organization or have representation that is recognized by EU standards, or approach listed   in Cordis one.
Cordis means - cord (like electrical  cord - the connection between elements of structure,
e.g.: between these interested in offer  and these who are interested in getting money for project)
such as  University,  official activity groups, EU business organizations.
-It is a link between you and listed collaborating organizations.
It stimulates business and  money flow in EU  creating opportunities, jobs and  taxes for  EU governments.
Non protected non patented, non represented  publicly projects will be likely chopped into  a pieces  on its way to approval by EU commission,
by individual interest  of some individuals having knowledge about  what you are doing ( e.g. having ability to look at your activity, papers, etc.)

Example:
Say you belong to  group of activity, from a school, supported by its management, in project  that is  submitted  to Cordis
and Cordis  didn't yet spend all of its money for present year for other projects.
You want money, School wants some of it, Cordis money comes from EU Taxes and must fallow the rules and everyone puts their name
under your  project approval. EU business groups representatives may be interested with that if your project is summited as a patent application.
So today you wrote and summited patent application and 5 minutes later,
you are already protected, than you convince  your  school principals,
and they signed  under your application  to Cordis or represent it.
Than Cordis responds to it, and you'll get your money.
No known to me  countries are ruled in EU by typical Far Eastern European bandits  and no bribe is needed.
But if you are Russian from acting   Russia than you are rejected.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH7N1M8FD3A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH7N1M8FD3A)
https://cordis.europa.eu/about (https://cordis.europa.eu/about)
Wesley.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on September 02, 2023, 03:08:34 PM
Channel of:Xyla Foxlin


Man can be left behind - amazing.
Making a WOODEN Airplane Propeller!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLDg7P5lO8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXLDg7P5lO8)
Wesley
Amazing,the Wright brothers their plane propeller was from wood ! ::)
https://hartzellprop.com/wright-brothers-propellers/ (https://hartzellprop.com/wright-brothers-propellers/)
2023+ : Superwood ?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/stronger-than-steel-able-to-stop-a-speeding-bullet-mdash-it-rsquo-s-super-wood/
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 02, 2023, 06:45:11 PM
Quote
Since 2007, I have registered the project in the Cordis system under the European Commission in the transport and energy section. Over 2 years, it turned out that this is just a scheme to steal 3.4 billion euros from the EU budget for companies close to the body belonging to the relatives of euro officials. I had correspondence with all auto-motos and even some aircraft manufacturers over these two years. Ignore the full. But Ford and BMW distinguished themselves by the fact that following the results of the correspondence they sent a letter of approximately the following content: "Send us a detailed description of your proposal with drawings and explanations, as well as a letter with your refusal of all direct and indirect rights to use your materials. And then Ford (BMW) will consider considering your proposal for our company. " So, "we beat the plates - we beat... we ate a dog on them if the cook does not lie to us.... "
Here is a review of one inventor of their Russia. It's not me.
p.s. Channel of:Xyla Foxlin is real very good.  thanks.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 02, 2023, 10:37:28 PM
Here is a review of one inventor of their Russia.
It was year 2007 where Russia was not under EU sanctions in this area.
The truthfulness of  the above statement is in question too as everything there.
The statement might be fabricated too.
Ford is American and is not in EU program.
BMW unlikely will formulate above conditions.
EU Cordis represents  civilized world  ruled by laws.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 03, 2023, 04:06:17 PM
some interesting videos and channels:
main channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ArtemisTechnologies/videos

This is an explanation of the concept.
Artemis eFoiler® - How it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQV7bcrcmsk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQV7bcrcmsk)
Chris Heaton-Harris Secretary of State for Northern Ireland Visits Artemis Technologies    https://youtu.be/LxoBh0Y-GSE?t=25 (https://youtu.be/LxoBh0Y-GSE?t=25)
90%  of energy saving
Wesley



Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 04, 2023, 02:11:07 PM
UFO is also known as UAP
Updated Fri, September 1, 2023 at 4:53 p.m. EDT
Pentagon UFO website reveals declassified info in AARO program
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pentagon-unveils-ufo-website-one- (https://ca.news.yahoo.com/pentagon-unveils-ufo-website-one-142440524.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAACYdTO9_xZJ8mGyw5O6j5Q44dHgPqmwXDm-LowqR-wKRVh2rc8UNuQDnGl6RAszeK8zN0wEiQFvlZn2f9Nx4PnlRf2XOZN9NY5WGWoB11ZIYtzCfG05Fjn7C79PGRdLAk62LnbAAcoylgQauGZRRT5mtZktdTZJgPq9aN9ohfdBz)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 07, 2023, 01:09:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA1ENhxLqTo
 spread your wings
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 07, 2023, 03:32:23 PM

FACE  it - THIS IS YOUR LEVEL guys,  you are at .
Humor:
mechanic is likely challenging a screw
electronic engineer  is likely challenging a resistor.
-it is all other people  art.

Do you feel humiliated now?
scientist is in everyone  of you .., - you can change it  if you will, but you do not want to.. do you?

By clicking on the  link of the quoted text you'll find all important links related to  practical testing and  explanation.
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The concept is simple :
Electromagnetic wave carrying  energy  is send from point A to point B.
That particular wave we make trapped in 2D space between air and earth, or air and water.
By that it doesn't propagate in air.
Concept  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave)
delivered by  Zenneck and Sommerfeld  in around 1909 was tested in 1977, presented  and
documented in :
Excitation of surface electromagnetic waves on water A. K. Singh, C. A. Goben, M. Davarpanah, and J. L. Boone.
Applied Optics Vol. 17, Issue 21 (https://opg.optica.org/ao/issue.cfm?volume=17&issue=21),pp. 3459-3465 (1978)
Later on  (till today) hundreds of others published similar tests.
Important is to read conclusions from that article that  tested  different frequencies requiring  different technique ( grating)
to tilt EM wave at close to Brewster Angle  and trap it in the interface ( air/earth; air/water)

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Good and bad:
motivation:
 - many of you do not even realize  where these big money is in it.
    Like a monkey looking at something else other than some banana.
 -  many of you are like me  motivated by art and content  not by money but :
     "oh heck, I can't for the life of me understand it"
     "what the heck's the matter with Wesley? Why  he is pushing me to it?  I'm not that dumb, I just have dumb luck."
- the good is that  due to my statue of limitation I can't yet  present working device  in both  Energy transfer  and energy extraction
  as you  now have chance to find something I  didn't  cover yet  publicly that may allow you to patent it.
- The bad  for lazy guys is  that  they  do not have it  on the dish delivered on the table by some nice beauty having no slide idea what is on that dish.
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Who is right who is wrong:

type in google: "Excitation of surface electromagnetic waves on water"
but get into articles or at least  switch into  "images" in browser and read "conclusions"

In short:
EM wave in that natural interface doesn't  propagate outside of it ( it is a waveguide)
Depends from frequency  different  method of trapping the wave  in the interface  is required
starting from  grating, prism, to vertical dipole or Tesla Coil.
"Dropped dead, hiding, becoming unnoticeable or these who made money on discontinuing" - is often
commonly reported reason for technologies to stop.
I'm not  convinced  that in all cases this apply to above subject at all.
- likely it is  your level dear audience that should be closer looked at to find you  perspective or impotent,  in this particular area.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 08, 2023, 01:04:41 PM

type in google: "Excitation of surface electromagnetic waves on water"
but get into articles or at least  switch into  "images" in browser and read "conclusions"

In short:
EM wave in that natural interface doesn't  propagate outside of it ( it is a waveguide)

Wesley
But why are ordinary metal waveguides coated on the inside with a layer of silver or even gold? And is this coating polished from the inside?
What is the difference between water and metal?
Can water reflect electromagnetic waves as effectively as polished silver?
Quote
Due to the skin effect at high frequencies, electric current along the walls penetrates typically only a few micrometers into the metal of the inner surface. Since this is where most of the resistive loss occurs, it is important that the conductivity of interior surface be kept as high as possible. For this reason, most waveguide interior surfaces are plated with copper, silver, or gold.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(radio_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(radio_frequency))

Why does a glass of water heat up in the microwave, but the metal walls of the microwave chamber do not heat up?
Why is it bad to use a porcelain plate with a metal pattern in the microwave, but a disposable aluminum foil plate is ok?

Yes, probably some very long waves with low efficiency can propagate over water.
But I assume that this is only interesting for study as a natural phenomenon.
Quote
Sommerfeld–Zenneck surface wave
Its electric field strength falls off at a rate of e-αd/√d in the direction of propagation along the interface due to two-dimensional geometrical field spreading at a rate of 1/√d, in combination with a frequency-dependent exponential attenuation (α), which is the terrestrial transmission line dissipation, where α depends on the medium’s conductivity. Arising from original analysis by Arnold Sommerfeld and Jonathan Zenneck of the problem of wave propagation over a lossy earth, it exists as an exact solution to Maxwell's equations.[17] The Zenneck surface wave, which is a non-radiating guided-wave mode, can be derived by employing the Hankel transform of a radial ground current associated with a realistic terrestrial Zenneck surface wave source.[6] Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface waves predict that the energy decays as R−1 because the energy distributes over the circumference of a circle and not the surface of a sphere. Evidence does not show that in radio space wave propagation, Sommerfeld-Zenneck surfaces waves are a mode of propagation as the path-loss exponent is generally between 20 dB/dec and 40 dB/dec.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 09, 2023, 01:24:44 AM
//why  ordinary metal waveguides coated on the inside with a layer of silver or even gold?
And is this coating polished from the inside?
Types of  waveguides. (https://www.tutorialspoint.com/microwave_engineering/microwave_engineering_waveguides.htm#:~:text=Types%20of%20Waveguides%201%20Rectangular%20waveguide%202%20Circular,Elliptical%20waveguide%204%20Single-ridged%20waveguide%205%20Double-ridged%20waveguide) or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrYXd1RXvs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLrYXd1RXvs) 
- we are not interested with this types, but it is good to read it  TM mode is what we want.
Earth  Ionosphere space is  a waveguide too. We are not much interested with it yet. ionosphere_waveguide (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%E2%80%93ionosphere_waveguide)
Everything that  "pipes" electromagnetic wave is a waveguide.

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What is the difference between water and metal?
  Not much difference both are conductors.( metal is better)
Salted water  is better conductor than  lake water or earth surface ( partially conductive medium).
Our waveguide called interface must use  conductive medium  like foil or  water and homogenies dielectric (air)
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Can water reflect electromagnetic waves as effectively as polished silver?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(radio_frequency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide_(radio_frequency))
it depends from frequency e.g. earth and cloud reflects EM wave too especially in VLF. For us silver is not important.
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Why does a glass of water heat up in the microwave, but the metal walls of the microwave chamber do not heat up?
Why is it bad to use a porcelain plate with a metal pattern in the microwave, but a disposable aluminum foil plate is ok?
The metal walls  in the design  do not get heated because they are built as good reflectors of microwave at 2.4GHz
so is waveguide walls. You cannot microwave aluminum foil https://practicalcooks.com/can-you-microwave-aluminum-foil/ (https://practicalcooks.com/can-you-microwave-aluminum-foil/)
Some exemption is here: https://homezesty.com/can-you-put-aluminum-foil-in-the-microwave/ (https://homezesty.com/can-you-put-aluminum-foil-in-the-microwave/)
Water, fat and sugar molecules hits fast in 2.4GHz.
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Yes, probably some very long waves with low efficiency can propagate over water.
But I assume that this is only interesting for study as a natural phenomenon.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_wave)
  Commercial applications uses this technique. That is  where the big money is.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 09, 2023, 01:51:39 PM
Perfect  test site for A to B energy transfer, Also FE. energy extraction from Schumann waveguide.
- but it can  be also regular lake.

Area #1:
Officially named by Senate of USA area:  nytimes.resolution-sponsor-of-terrorism.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/world/europe/the-us-senate-passes-a-resolution-seeking-to-label-russia-as-a-sponsor-of-terrorism.html)
Officially named by European Parliament: eu-parliament-declares-russia-state-sponsor-of-terrorism (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/11/23/eu-parliament-declares-russia-state-sponsor-of-terrorism#:~:text=The%20European%20Parliament%20has%20declared%20Russia%20a%20%E2%80%9Cstate,Ukraine%20violate%20human%20rights%20and%20international%20humanitarian%20laws.)

Salt containing Lakes:
Baskunchak – a unique salt lake https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqgZZUS8kc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBqgZZUS8kc)
Boiling lake Озеро Кипящее - Кунашир - Kuril  Islands Курильские острова https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOsXh_ctqI&t=2s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCOsXh_ctqI&t=2s)
Some more is here: https://www.rbth.com/travel/333486-multicolored-russian-lakes (https://www.rbth.com/travel/333486-multicolored-russian-lakes)
Caspian Sea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Sea)   https://youtu.be/NiN_mEAY2Ps?t=43 (https://youtu.be/NiN_mEAY2Ps?t=43)
Aral Sea  4th largest  lake in the world  destroyed by some terrorists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0Sxn42TGs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp0Sxn42TGs)
But leftover small water is absolutely perfect for testing as one of the most salted waters in the  world.
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conditions:

salt water , quiet surface serves as conductive medium
air serves as dielectric
That makes perfect  flat 2D waveguide   to trap electromagnetic energy.
For these more advanced in art, it is  perfect  area for the energy extraction  technique learning .
This area from the perspective of highly civilized  world, is now relatively safe from mentioned banditism,
as long as you do not  bring attention into your testing there.
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How much  is worth successful test:

-anywhere from few millions to few billions dollars depends from experimenter  willingness to share  data.
 The downside if  testing for profit is that most of A to B is already patented, unless you deliver something
  uniquely new but essential. However your  practical setup is priceless to a buyer. e,g. Tariel Kapanadze 

How big is cost of  the test:
- if it was in USA material cost around $50  plus cost of measuring equipment
  for these  who do not need  drive far to the test site .
  If the test is not using water but earth as a partially conductive medium - the large backyard
   or agricultural field is sufficient enough.
   Beach wet with salt water may be also good.( I didn't test this  option yet)

What is included in the test if tested is A to B energy transfer
1. field the best if it is 1 mile /1km but ~70ft is also not that bad.( depends from frequency used)
2. two tesla towers with adjustable top capacitor. or just two vertical J-pole or dipole antennas with adjustable ball top capacitor.
3. generator from 1W to as much as you can find with regulated power and frequency level.
     ( Ham radio to repeat Dr James Corum Seneca Lake experiment  using 1.8MHz is OK) here:
      https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82)
     https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/173369/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/173369/image//)
     https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg536259/#msg536259 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg536259/#msg536259)
    or here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557079/#msg557079 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557079/#msg557079)
    or here: https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/225/ (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/225/)
4. receiver.( Ham radio transceiver is OK) later can be changed to a load e.g. 50 ohm or even lightbulb.


Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on September 09, 2023, 06:33:45 PM
https://magstar.eu/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Nikola-Tesla-On-His-Work-With-Alternating-Currents-and-Their-Application-to-Wireless-Telgraphy-Telephony-and-Transmission-of-Power-Leland-I.-Anderson.pdf


page 62 excerpt: "A common experiment....."
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: DavidWolff on September 10, 2023, 12:25:33 PM
Here we have an interesting phenomena regarding 'energy extraction from Schumann Wave guide', so how did 'N Tesla' drag this huge amount of power from the sky down to earth in order to power his Pierce Arrow convertible and also being aware there were no Lithium ion Batteries around In the early 1900, Can you explain this Dr ?

DaveW

moderator note: no need to  quote entire text.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 10, 2023, 02:34:48 PM
PART1 of an answer:
//phenomena regarding 'energy extraction from Schumann Wave guide', so how did 'N Tesla'
drag this huge amount of power from the sky down to earth in order to power his Pierce Arrow convertible /
DaveW
Researcher determines if there is a relationship between two or more variables and doesn't expect
to respond to a question formulated by a music or poetry fan not familiar at all, with subject he/she is  questioning.
Observations and conducted background eliminates need to examine and correct the very basics
serving as an "alphabet" in  physics used for that examination.
An analphabet in physics can be very valuable member of  society in other areas too.
_____________________________________________________________

With all due respect to you DaveW : 
1. Tesla talking to JP Morgan got an opportunity to build Tesla Tower and blow it in
    1896 talking to him again.
2. Tesla talking to Westinghouse got an opportunity to perform and survive and blow
    it, by giving  back his shares.(- percentage) when Westinghouse was in trouble.
     (In 1888, he sold his patents to industrialist George Westinghouse, whose Westinghouse Electric Company
      had quickly become an Edison competitor.)


But  that action had nothing to do, with knowing a method of energy transfer-
At that time the Tesla Tower concept was Tesla's big failure creating disappointed investors .
Tesla Tower was just an air transformer and not so good aerial antenna.
It was a time when (Newton's 1686),Inverse Square Law was not yet applied to
electromagnetism in its infantry in 1900ts.- It could eliminate method using air as too lossy
and good only for short distance radio communication (using e.g. omnidirectional dipole )
as role of a diode (later used as a detector) made by German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1874
was not quite understood and applied yet in ~1900.

Tesla and Marconi:

If we assume that Tesla tried to apply surface wave to send  energy from A to B
it would make Tesla's Tower compared to Marconi's Bolinas California plant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marconi-RCA_Bolinas_Transmitting_Station (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marconi-RCA_Bolinas_Transmitting_Station)
But both in 1900ts had no idea about Waveguides Lord Reyliegh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide) 1897, inverse square law limitations, Schumann waveguide & resonances (1952).

So both tried to send energy from A to B being just pioneers  exposed to their own total failure of understanding 
todays physics about  flat 2D waveguide made of a conductive medium (e.g. earth or water) and dielectric medium(e.g. air)
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82) year 1933, 1936, 2007, 2013.
In easy analogy I would express it this way:
Having big name you got opportunities,  but  you  are not free from mistakes. So was Tesla and Marconi too.
Example:
Trump thanks to his money got contacts and opportunity to become USA President who
is now in criminal court for using opportunity to  use "public" - in created by him "flame".

 
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2023, 03:14:56 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law_for_gravity (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law_for_gravity)
The form of Gauss's law for gravity is mathematically similar to Gauss's law (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauss%27s_law) for electrostatics (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrostatics),
one of Maxwell's equations (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations). Gauss's law for gravity has the same mathematical relation to Newton's
law that Gauss's law for electrostatics bears to Coulomb's law (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb%27s_law). 
This is because both Newton's law and Coulomb's law describe inverse-square (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law) interaction in a 3-dimensional space.

Newton,Gauss and Maxwell their scientifical work was done  before N.Tesla and Marconi
their concepts developped and its inverse/square law relationship !
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OCWL
p.s.: there is an other way to discourage inventors and investors ,f.e.:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20220113&CC=US&NR=2022014080A1&KC=A1# (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=13&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20220113&CC=US&NR=2022014080A1&KC=A1#)
Applied : 2009   Avaliation and grant-phase process phase : 2022,only U.S.
WO and EP : 2012 !
https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP10825539&tab=main (https://register.epo.org/application?number=EP10825539&tab=main)
The application is deemed to be withdrawn
Slow industrial property deflation by patent offices work 'speed' !
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2023, 03:44:04 PM
#3010 :
how has/have ( social class language depending) we to construct a ' dielectric sender/receiver/converter'-system ?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric)
Are N.Tesla used vacuum tubes similar to see like T.T.Brown his ' gravitator'-discs,GB motor application ?
Condenser stator/condenser rotor movement concept,by Tesla and Plauson !

My work related these technologies and formation from the portuguese technician ( with engineer skills)let him develop this two 2009 application concepts (1.,2. ) :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC= (https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Envez&IN=&CPC=&IC=)
It surprised me, he was  in technical  progression more steps in front than thought !

As in 2. explained(portuguese)also in 3.-  translated  :
The technical domain of this system is located in the current electromagnetic spectrum,
however it differs due to the fact that the coils do not have a standardized behavior in relation to consumption,
as they do not have internal resistance, which raises several questions of a theoretical nature:
according to the law of Ohm R=V/I. With R=O and having a voltage V applied to the coil,
we face a first theoretical difficulty in solving this equation, that is, impossibility or indeterminacy.

By Joule's law W=I~XR the same impossibility arises.
According to Weber's law Um= @XR~ we have that the magnetic tension which is
Um is equal to the product of fi and reluctance. We continue with the same impossibility.

By Lenz's law EI= A@/At we have that the induced electromotive force
E1 is equal to the division of the variation of the cosine of phi by the variation of time.
As the cosine offi is zero, indeterminacy remains.
In practice, subject to various measurements and tests, a residual consumption of 6 mA was found,
resulting more from the power cables than from the consumption of the coil.
The value of fi remains unchanged and equal to zero. Practical situation without known theoretical justification.
When one 'EE law' falls,cause : R= or ≥ 0, the domino-effect from R-dependent EE laws ........

https://www.epa.gov/environmental-geophysics/electrical-conductivity-and-resistivity
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OCWL
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 10, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
PART2 of an answer:
//phenomena regarding 'energy extraction from Schumann Wave guide', so how did 'N Tesla'
drag this huge amount of power from the sky down to earth in order to power his Pierce Arrow convertible /
DaveW

In PART 1 here: https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582145/#msg582145 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582145/#msg582145)
- We established total failure of Tesla and Marconi experimenting with 
sending  energy from A to B presumably using surface wave guided in natural waveguide
they had no idea it exists nor its properties.
Work was done by both intuitively, with some level of ignorance to  the new development of science and technology  coming up
during that time while remaining in competition to each other.
It was also an effect of  the two gentleman affairs, Tesla's lack of money, and Marconi's suing USA government
about illegal use of his technology during  WW1.
Waste of money and time.

Tesla tower  was demolished in 1917.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower)
Marconi Bolinas plant  was built in 1914 and taken over by RCA in 1919 (actually by action of government of USA "acting"
as newly formed RCA) -look below for more accurate information.
Not much information is published about this event:
1.
Quote
In 1919, upon completion of this grand facility, KPH Bolinas, it was seized from American Marconi by the U.S. Navy

https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/54-5/v54-1/Dollard_on_Bolinas_Wireless_Station.html (https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/54-5/v54-1/Dollard_on_Bolinas_Wireless_Station.html)
Note: Eric Dollard is known as unorthodox researcher and publisher 
2. Marconi's Museum is likely more about donations than sharing full historical  truth.
https://bolinasmuseum.org/exhibitions/wireless-giant-of-the-pacific-100-years-of-marconi-rca-maritime-radio-history/ (https://bolinasmuseum.org/exhibitions/wireless-giant-of-the-pacific-100-years-of-marconi-rca-maritime-radio-history/)
3. https://www.nps.gov/pore/planyourvisit/events_marconi_centennial.htm (https://www.nps.gov/pore/planyourvisit/events_marconi_centennial.htm) - nothing important to us - just skip it.
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvQU0AcxytE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvQU0AcxytE)  by Eric Dollard


______________________________________________________________ by Eric

Pierce Arrow presentation  by Tesla was in 1931

1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EorF01qUnak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EorF01qUnak) Nikola Tesla's Pierce Arrow electric car
     Video uses totally wrong assumption based on Donald Smith here: 10:59 (https://youtu.be/EorF01qUnak?t=675) 
      P=U x I but  P= I2xR and R is constant load in Pierce Arrow presentation  by Tesla
      - so : someone  touching top of Tesla coil may not get burn to much or at all, as current is likely very small and voltage is high 10kV up.
     We see  in the video : Nonsense of Don Smith taken as an example by uneducated video maker. fallowing another nonsense of
      "longitudinal electromagnetic wave"  in minute: 01:05:43 and many more.

2.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/nikola-teslas-most-amazing-pierce-arrow-car-project-1931-buffalo-ny-vision (https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/nikola-teslas-most-amazing-pierce-arrow-car-project-1931-buffalo-ny-vision)
Tesla Pierce Arrow car conversion
The article talks about Radiant Energy and here we have few  choices but article talks about energy of electromagnetic wave.
The article doesn't talk about - just  "any energy that radiates" - also known as radiant. 
So we may stick to the description below:
Quote
Radiant energy is a form of electromagnetic energy that includes visible light, radio waves, ultraviolet (UV) rays,

If we exclude surface wave in form known as of today trapped in between air as dielectric and earth as lossy conductive medium than

it looks like:
-Tesla couldn't do it   
-or  he was using ahead of time method more modern than  today(2023) 
-or it was   a joke.

The patent listed in article doesn't apply.



Other sources:
3.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZJyhT1dI0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZJyhT1dI0)

     https://youtu.be/DKpCrdWKZPo?t=125 (https://youtu.be/DKpCrdWKZPo?t=125)
     https://youtu.be/53ShbUWZ0Ig?t=72 (https://youtu.be/53ShbUWZ0Ig?t=72)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on September 10, 2023, 06:59:50 PM
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/nikola-teslas-most-amazing-pierce-arrow-car-project-1931-buffalo-ny-vision
Tesla Pierce Arrow car conversion


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 11, 2023, 06:55:50 AM
Why can't rectified AC using instead of familiar diode that inductance with permanent magnet ?
The choke like such that using in TVs and Monitors.
After all, obviously there is an asymmetry of the current flowing through it in different directions.
I was trying do that,but comes out nothing. :'(
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 11, 2023, 08:09:51 AM
  Commercial applications uses this technique. That is  where the big money is.
Wesley
Wesley, does it make sense to transmit electricity from US to somewhere with huge transmission losses?

Electricity prices 2023 per kilowatt-hour:

Russia:
in cities $0.069
in villages $0.048

Ukraine:
for private $0.072

Georgia, where Kapanadze comes:
for Tbilisi $0.10

Belarus:
for private $0.098

Kazakhstan:
for private $0.01

Iran:
$0.002

Iraq:
$0.015 - $0.046

China:
$0.075 - $0.087
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: DENA on September 11, 2023, 05:03:30 PM
Hi ,

This guy and his teams have successfuly transfered energy through specific way to elswhere,
Think he is using phase array antenna , but no clue in which frequency?
Do you know, how his cliam will play major role on futur?

https://www.ted.com/talks/ali_hajimiri_how_wireless_energy_from_space_could_power_everything?language=en
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 11, 2023, 06:04:01 PM
Wesley, does it make sense to transmit electricity from US to somewhere with huge transmission losses?
Electricity prices 2023 per kilowatt-hour:
Russia:in cities $0.069in villages $0.048;Ukraine;for private $0.072 for private $0.072; Georgia, $0.10; Belarus: for private $0.098;
Kazakhstan: private $0.01,Iran:$0.002;Iraq:$0.015 - $0.046;China:$0.075 - $0.087
Loses of energy transfer using wires( cost) makes   consumer in USA pay two bills.
One for energy  use and another one for energy delivery that is often  higher than the first one.
So imagine  energy cost if  no wires are used and efficiency of transfer is higher than  with use of wires , towers,
poles  etc. 
Energy is just a pretext.
-look at  section  of featuring documentary with projection of possible fabula  called :
Welcome to the world of slaves starting from here:
https://youtu.be/zE4GjB1cWLQ?t=499
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 11, 2023, 07:01:15 PM
Part#1

Hi ,
This guy and his teams have successfuly transfered energy through specific way to elswhere,
Think he is using phase array antenna , but no clue in which frequency?
Do you know, how his cliam will play major role on futur?
https://www.ted.com/talks/ali_hajimiri_how_wireless_energy_from_space_could_power_everything?language=en (https://www.ted.com/talks/ali_hajimiri_how_wireless_energy_from_space_could_power_everything?language=en)

Thank you for the  link.
I  thought that TED  is reputable source  I never analyzed yet till today.
Such a stake of nonsense I didn't expect to  read or watch.

Quote
Quote from transcript:
you're using some sort of wireless connectivity that relies on wireless and RF waves
wireless is RF and nothing else. - misuse  of  terminology.
Quote
Quote from transcript:
If you have two waves that have the same frequency and are going up and down
and they come together at some point in space, they will add and make a wave that's twice the height but carries four times the energy.
Now, if the same two waves come together at some other place in space, but one is running
half a period late, they cancel and you get very little energy, practically no energy.
This is the basis for a process that has been known for a long time. It's called interference.
- Lack of education, completely wrong  statement  from someone who calls himself   an electrical engineer.
Please  read just  fat print:
and look at real science  now:
---------------------------------------------------------
Energy of electromagnetic wave is carried on  by  photons.
Light is also electromagnetic wave so lets take it as an example.
Quote
Light waves in free space do interfere, but do not interact.
Once the light waves have passed through one another, you cannot measure a change due to the other wave
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/488108/do-photons-interact-or-not-directly (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/488108/do-photons-interact-or-not-directly)
Exemption  of that  rule is here but doesn't apply to the mentioned video.
https://cdn.britannica.com/39/108839-050-24DBCC03.jpg (https://cdn.britannica.com/39/108839-050-24DBCC03.jpg)

RULE:
Photon is energy carrier that has no mass and can be thought as having mass if in motion.
Quote
Photons have no rest mass. Since mass and energy are equivalent, photons can be thought
of as having mass when they are in motion because they have energy.
But photons cease to exist when they are at rest
Photons (https://byjus.com/physics/photon/#:~:text=Photons%20have%20no%20rest%20mass.%20Since%20mass%20and,cease%20to%20exist%20when%20they%20are%20at%20rest.) -link
Photon  can not interact with another photon (only with itself) can-one-bit-of-light-bounce-off-another (https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/2013/09/06/can-one-bit-of-light-bounce-off-another-bit-of-light/)

_____________________________________________________________________
 So I stopped at this point any reading of that transcript,  didn't watch more of that video yet
I may create another  comment if needed,
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 12, 2023, 11:29:06 AM
Photon  can not interact with another photon (only with itself)
Why two radio waves with certain frequencies can self-destruct.
But two rays of light (two photons) can’t ?
I think I can guess why.
A radio wave is strictly of one frequency and phase. And light is a set of frequencies.
But even single-mode laser radiation does not self-destruct. Why? :o

p.s.

Why can't rectified AC using instead of familiar diode that inductance with permanent magnet ?
The choke like such that using in TVs and Monitors.
After all, obviously there is an asymmetry of the current flowing through it in different directions.
I was trying do that,but comes out nothing. :'(

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Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on September 12, 2023, 01:40:12 PM
It is impossible !
It is not impossible ! = It is possible !
' directly/indirectly '

https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2013/09/06/can-one-bit-of-light-bounce-off-another-bit-of-light/
In Physics the base is the ' normal case ',often related Macro-World-actio/reactio Time and Space related, with a short advice to ' singularly case'-s,Quantum Mechanics Physics world,where 'dimensionless thinking' get special case results  ! Conditioning !
Today we play with ' impossibilities by Nature ' through new artificial material geometry/mixture/purity ,known also as Metamaterials !
Electro-magnetic (spectrum) wave = radio (spectrum)frequency= emitter frequency + medium non-/inter-/ference

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum
https://www.google.com/search?q=radiant+energy+definition+by+n.tesla&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
https://www.scirp.org/html/4-9801408_29663.htm
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Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 12, 2023, 05:04:28 PM
Part#3 -edited by me few times since its publication.(read it again)

In relation to above  comment:
 Tesla and Marconi lost in trying send energy from A to B using free space
as  inverse square law applies
 definition of free space describing limitations of electromagnetic wave /photon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss)
Quote
Free-space loss increases with the square of distance between the antennas because the radio waves spread out
by the inverse square law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_square_law) and decreases with the square of the wavelength (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength) of the radio waves

Note:  In regards to possible use of Surface wave in form of Zenneck  wave and waveguide - Interface.
We do not know for sure about Marconi but it looks like both had in mind or could discover the Interface
however Marconi experiment  was only 5 years in Bolinas California till US Navy and US government with RCA  closed it.
Tesla Tower experienced lack of money and it was demolished  few years after its construction.

So Tesla's best experience was in Colorado Springs.
--------------------------------------------------
So  Dr James Corum  experiments supported by hundreds of other independent
and not related to each other individuals, scientific publications and experiments shows that because
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides. such process is real doable and working.

Strip line
commercially used is the best example  of it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripline (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripline)
We are not talking about totally  no losses in waveguide but about different  character of losses where
inverse square law  "doesn't work"
Losses in waveguides are related  to many factors but in the waveguide called:
Interface - the 2D space between
Earth and/or water acting as conductive medium and air acting as  dielectric  the losses depends  mainly from
frequency used.
The lower is the frequency the closer to none, are the losses.
That is why A to B energy transfer and/or  extraction of energy  from Schumann waveguide 7.5 Hz to 8.3 Hz.
becomes  possible and economically attractive, using exactly the same mechanism/ technique/ hardware made to test  both.
17.6kHz was tested by me and Corum brothers.
_________________________________________________________________

Someone backyard  can be used for testing  but -
-The best test   areas  were  described be me here:
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582124/#msg582124 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582124/#msg582124)

This is your the most realistic way to gain both   financially and existentially,
after the  failure of ~30 years of  ideas presented in this forum ,and  all time crooks in area of Energy for Free.

Legal note:
Opinion expressed is my own and I do  not  propose or recommend or state use of  the contained text to anyone.
Text from above or any text of mine should be  understood as educational  and is not free  from errors.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: DENA on September 12, 2023, 06:12:23 PM
I'm appreciating for your detail explanation ,
As far as i undrestood , the scalar waves or longitudinal waves is not his main issue in speech,
He is trying to explain the Beam forming technich which is being used nowdays in 5G mobile and Starlink stalite  , to focuse the power of transivers in optimum way .
And to do so he invitably had to talk about phase control by right timing.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 12, 2023, 08:40:10 PM
PART#4

I'm appreciating for your detail explanation ,
the scalar waves or longitudinal waves is not his main issue in speech,
He is trying to explain the Beam forming technich which is being used nowdays in 5G mobile and Starlink stalite  , to focuse the power of transivers in optimum way .
And to do so he invitably had to talk about phase control by right timing.
Longitudinal wave can be mechanical but not electromagnetic =  nonsense along with another nonsense - scalar waves.
____________________________________________________________________

Ok you made me to look  to the end of this  video nonsense.
Loosely related Theoretical Analogy:
If we had a testimony of some idiot, we  might  think: is he   a clinical  case or just anecdotal one.
Was his education taking place at, some Rural Russia or  any other third world developing country  educational facility.
where  Master degree can be an effect of corrupted system money laundering.

____________________________________________________________________

So after analyzed by me  in part #1.2.3 that gentleman  totally wrong statement about waves interaction
he continues  with more of the nonsense.

At first he talks about beam forming, presenting  battery less  drone, lightbulb without wires, etc.
All of it is taking place in NEAR FIELD!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field)
The trick "likely" used there  is that Tx is mounted on the  ceiling of the  room   only few feet from the flying drone-for the video to look more convincing.;
so 2.-3 ft is not 30ft.

lets make some calculations:
Drone on that video( ~30" long.) has no battery and is flying at altitude of 30ft 10m.
but needs to have delivery of around let's say 9.5 W (at any time) to  fly and has antenna gain 1
Transmitter  that is 30-ft away (having the same antenna) need than to transmit 10kW of energy.
https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/power-density-calculator/ (https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/tools/power-density-calculator/)
 -in this calculator : power density  = 9.517W/m2  approximately enough  for the drone (antenna) size 30"

Quote
Input 10 000W
Output Power,  9.517W/m2
Gain 1
(linear)
Distancer 30ft
and of course Yagi antenna or beam forming antenna array makes this  power requirement hundreds times smaller
e.g : directional yagi antenna having gain 27dB requires  only 500W from transmitter to deliver 12.85W  to the drone at distance of 30ft.
____________________________________________________________________

So next the gentleman says that he build satellite that would use  antenna array in space powered by solar panels that would send
energy to a specific point  on the earth surface , its antenna is  looking at. ( For that he needs  geostationary orbit)And than the satellite will not see sun
its batteries will not charge when  geostationary  point and the satellite will be from the other side of the earth in the "sun line."

Quote
quote from that video transcript:
First is that in space you get about eight times more energy because you don't have day and night, you don't have clouds,
 you don't have seasons, and you don't have the atmospheric absorption
Conclusion:
So Because of inverse square law, how much energy now measured  in microwatts  you'll receive at that point on the earth after electromagnetic wave travels to the  receiver antenna?


Legal note: all  numbers and calculations are  approximate just to give reader an idea how inverse square law works,
how beam forming and  directional antenna  works.
 Opinion expressed is my own.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 13, 2023, 09:21:08 AM
  the losses depends  mainly from
frequency used.
The lower is the frequency the closer to none, are the losses.
That is why A to B energy transfer and/or  extraction of energy  from Schumann waveguide 7.5 Hz to 8.3 Hz.
Lower frequency,lower losses.Yes indeed.
But at the same time, the energy transferred by such a low-frequency wave is also less. Am I right ?  In any way,I'd like to do it. :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 13, 2023, 05:25:21 PM
Lower frequency,lower losses.Yes indeed.
But at the same time, the energy transferred by such a low-frequency wave is also less. Am I right ?  In any way, I'd like to do it. :)


What makes me  not so happy  is that  some guys from the audience including you do not read carefully what I write.
Please note that this is USA not Russia where BS is not easily  accepted by general public,. and not accepted at all by professionals.
However we are dedicated to help  educationally each other so I do every day.


In here meaning of words (- every single word) describes  details .
These details are  like the elements of carboard based Jigsaw Puzzle Wedding Ceremony.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/jigsaw-puzzle-wedding-ceremony--582160689341905530/ (https://www.pinterest.com/pin/jigsaw-puzzle-wedding-ceremony--582160689341905530/)
- wedding "your desire to  have FE" with  "your little pieces of knowledge" about a process I'm talking about.
(Both are  the non perfect  elements we are trying to make  more  perfect,) -  that is how marriage works  in human world.


----------------------------------
Level of complication of  FE or energy transfer A to B,
-  using Surface Wave (known as  Zenneck Wave) in form of flat waveguide (known as Interface.)

You or 4 years old boy/girl , can see immediately that something is missing (like one element  of that puzzle ).
That is the typical level  of complication ( of assembling) many things  around us.( like: the Ikea bookshelf made from pieces )

The difference between you and that 4 years old child-
To make  every single element of puzzle  for that child   you need:
- to  know (at minimum) properties of a material used.
- have (at minimum) tools to  cut it.

And for all of that you need some education- not much but  much enough = understanding.:

__________________________________________________________________
 


I gave you specific quote  you  did not understand :
in https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582196/#msg582196 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582196/#msg582196)
Quote
Free-space loss increases with the square of distance between the antennas because the radio waves spread out
by the inverse square law and
decreases with the square of the wavelength of the radio waves
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss)
It is  the element  of puzzle for 4 years old  boy you need to understand as an adult.- all its properties and  application.
You may not need to know all theory  but you need to know that it  exists.
Then I said in  the same comment :
Quote
Inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides.
---------------------------------
Then I said in the same comment :
Quote
We are not talking about totally  no losses in waveguide but about different  character of losses where
inverse square law  "doesn't work"

Conclusion:
Not going to all theory.
-electromagnetic wave at 17kHz  and wave in  frequency of visible light, or  infrared, or ultraviolet, or x-ray or gamma
   are all  electromagnetic waves and can be modulated- it means can become carriers  of  logical information 
   if we need  to use them for communication.
- electromagnetic wave by itself is having energy represented and carried on by photons (wave energy carrier,) even if it is not modulated.
- the higher is the frequency the more energy is in each single period of it. -waves/a/light-electromagnetic-spectrum (https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/light-waves/introduction-to-light-waves/a/light-and-the-electromagnetic-spectrum)
  that is  why  ultraviolet, or x-ray or gamma are dangerous to our  health
- visible light energy per period is what our organs are made to survive .
- All lower frequencies than light are considered totally safe to us.

BUT:
there  is another  factor :
-the time of exposure to a radiation with respect to described by me previously inverse square law ( distance from the source e.g. Tx)
PHOTON (THE  ELECTROMAGNERTIC WAVE CARIER)  can't  exchange energy with another wave photon (even if frequency of wave is exactly the same) in the free space.
Photon can only exchange energy  with matter - usually depositing its energy with it  in form of heat.
Example: 10kW transmitter or more , at any  frequency of electromagnetic  wave considered safe in 1~inch from your body may heat it creating  damage,
It could be even 5W in frequency of 144MHz 2m( ham radio band) if  you have inside of your  ear  headset 
connected to a hand-held, portable, two-way radio transceiver.  having  improperly  insolated shield. You  may feel heat in  your  ear.
(That headset  wire  that has a length ~1/4 y, resonates with the RubberDuck antenna of the handheld)
Microwave works similar way at usually 2.4GHz. The longer is time of exposure of it  the more food is  heated.
But you are  outside of microwave isolated by its  shield  acting like a faraday  cage. https://mdcreekmore.com/make-a-faraday-cage/ (https://mdcreekmore.com/make-a-faraday-cage/)
The inverse square law makes that 5W of your handheld  transceiver  totally safe  just 3mm ( 1/8") from your ear with that faulty headset wire
- or if you have 10kW transmitter(Tx) and you are  2m(6ft) from  its transmitting antenna.( if properly impedance matched)
(It means  2m(6ft) from your body, during the time of transmission(e.g. 2 minutes)


So time here is important.
The important to us frequency 17kHz or any other frequency e.g 2.4Ghz having power of 10kW with properly  impedance matched
 load( e.g. antenna  or  Tesla Tower, at the distance of 1m(3ft) can be considered safe during the certain  time.
But 1kW at even  70cm( 450MHz) is no  problem in this scenario.
We are working  usually at frequencies of HF or VLF using for tests  not more than 100W so  we can forget it.
Now the words you are waiting for:
Amount of energy per period is not important at VHF, HF, LF  or VLF . The only what counts is energy delivered
to/and the properly tuned( impedance matched) an antenna.( e.g .Tesla Coil)

__________________________________________________________________

Energy (power in W) in form of electromagnetic wave , delivered to the Tesla Coil or vertical dipole 
having  counterpoise  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterpoise_(ground_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counterpoise_(ground_system))
goes to the 2D interface (-e.g earth or water as conductive medium and  Air as  dielectric) and is received by another  such structure
(e.g exactly the same ) or any other but resonating at the same  frequency.
The amount of losses in the process becomes lower and close to  none  when frequency used becomes lower and lower.
The amount of energy  transferred depends at first from  power of the transmitter (Tx)
If we use Energy extraction instead of Energy Transfer A to B than amount of energy received by receiver (Rx)
depends from  energy available in the Interface.( our FE)
Interface is not a capacitor AND IS NOT  an energy storage  like battery.
Interface is just a  bridge between  Tx and Rx .
Interface  has reactive character
Example:
Instead of  above Interface we  picture two children holding  rope at two ends.
 - the rope is  the interface between the two children.
 - any of the children can be the Tx and another Rx.
 - If Rx starts to pull the rope, the Tx  feels the force.
Tx can allow  his energy to go to Rx till he can't  hold the rope any longer.( weak  Tx)

If Tx  doesn't have any more  energy than link is broken. No more energy.
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/187955/image//
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg569399/#msg569399 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg569399/#msg569399)


Every word in this last part is important to FE and/or A to B energy transfer experimenter.



Legal note:
:)
Opinion expressed is my own
and/or I do  not  propose or recommend or state use of  the contained text to anyone.
Text from above or any text of mine should be  understood as educational  and "may not"  be free  from errors
. :)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 13, 2023, 07:29:07 PM
No,no. I understand all. When was saying that low frequency wave carried low energy,I mean only this.

- the higher is the frequency the more energy is in each single period of it. -waves/a/light-electromagnetic-spectrum (https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/light-waves/introduction-to-light-waves/a/light-and-the-electromagnetic-spectrum)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: ovun987 on September 15, 2023, 06:39:03 PM
Why do I need A to B power transfer when I can get enough power right from the local environment as much as I need anytime I want ?

When you have time, can you share an example of your exact setup, or can you provide an schematic than anyone anywhere can replicate?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 16, 2023, 01:57:29 AM

Thank you for video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D93iKH1q2vs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D93iKH1q2vs) of Adrian Guska  who  was "terminated".
-explanation is here :https://youtu.be/_9foRzZEZRo (https://youtu.be/_9foRzZEZRo) . 

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 16, 2023, 01:36:55 PM
For some reason I remembered the system Loran.C.  Are Its waves spread by Shuman's waveguide ?
The frequency 100 Khz. Surface of the water...   Power of transmitter is very great.
If I'm living in a coast of any ocean ,can I have taken something from ? ;)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 16, 2023, 04:50:58 PM
And by the way, can the respected public tell me if the electronic archive of the once famous magazine “Electronics” has been preserved somewhere?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 16, 2023, 05:56:45 PM
Note:
Енергія у вигляді імпульсу високої енергії, що відправляється з точки А в точку Б, яка з «якоїсь причини» :)
резонує і діє як приймач, може стати руйнівною або навіть катастрофічною ) до структури  і\або персоналу в цій структурі, яка:
- не потребує фіксованого розташування конструкції.
-може бути на колесах (тим більше)
Я не впевнений щодо кораблів, але \"схоже\" ця інформація \"може бути\" дуже застосовною і до них.
Не виключено, що українці читають цю інформацію, і відповідні органи, пораджені там їхньою фізичною командою,
теж можуть її прочитати.
-оскільки "безпека" :) дуже важлива, :o
Tюнінг тут є важливим фактором.
_________________________________________________________________________________
https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=469 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=469)


Legal Note:
Opinion expressed is my own.
All information enclosed are  strictly  educational.


Щиро дякую за стільки запитів із проханням надати додаткову інформацію.
Є цілий розділ російською мовою,(- який я також створив.)  який пояснює процес.
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559436/#msg559436 (https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559436/#msg559436)
більше інформації в темі, написаній англійською мовою
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539536/#msg539536 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg539536/#msg539536)
у згаданому посиланні я пропоную простий спосіб перевірити систему різними методами.
Лінія Губау прекрасно відома.
Використання металевої фольги замість землі або води:
-легко швидко отримати необхідну практику, що дозволяє використовувати той самий досвід,
коли поверхня солоної води використовується як -"провідне середовище з втратами," а повітря як діелектрик.
Це два елементи  -хвилеводу, відомі як 2D -інтерфейс

In response to "C"
Дякуємо, що поділилися контактом .
Будь ласка, подивіться на мою пряму відповідь.
-Взагалі безкоштовно.
Ви – Yкраїнці.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 16, 2023, 08:50:30 PM
For some reason I remembered the system Loran.C.  Are Its waves spread by Shuman's waveguide ?
The frequency 100 Khz. Surface of the water...   Power of transmitter is very great.
If I'm living in a coast of any ocean ,can I have taken something from ? ;)
History  of all  systems and Loran C: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loran-C (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loran-C)
Operated at 180kHz, 150kHz, 95kHz and 100kHz.That is very interesting to us.
Omega system operated at frequency VLF 10.2 kHz, 13.6 kHz, 11.333... kHz
And that is even more interesting to us https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_(navigation_system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_(navigation_system))
Interesting is its antenna system:
Height of the mast   is only  helping  wave propagation  in air in long distances.
General rule is that  efficiency of the antenna was expected  to be the best at 1/4 Y ( lambda)
= Quarter wave. However  wavelength at this frequency is = 29391.41 m= 29.4km
1/4 Y=7347.85m So no antenna could be such tall.
Simple trick was to use
Quote
grounded or insulated guyed masts with umbrella antennas,,

So there is need to understand that Tesla coil is  only one of  many vertical antennas that could be used
and all of them are considered to  be
vertical dipole.
It is its verticality that is important  for us.
Tests can be done with  vertical dipole of any kind and antenna that can be 1/10000 of the wavelength too.
Loran C link is here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loran-C (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loran-C)
Easy or incredibly  easy  explanation:
https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3120&context=etd (https://ir.library.louisville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3120&context=etd)

If you look at  Seneca Lake experiment of Dr James Corum you do not see Tesla Coil  there.
 https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82 (https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=82)   
 https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/173369/image// (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/173369/image//)
 https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg536259/#msg536259 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg536259/#msg536259)
or here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557082/#msg557082 (https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg557082/#msg557082)
These antennas were  properly impedance matched and our antenna  must be too.
Equipment helping measurement and/or  real time  impedance  matching monitoring is here:
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg581355/#msg581355 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg581355/#msg581355)
But here  is shown the basic however working excellent:
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg581359/#msg581359 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg581359/#msg581359)

Active monitoring  in real time   is done by
Signalcrafters 70 ( two of them are presented in that picture)
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg579717/#msg579717 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg579717/#msg579717)
http://signalcrafters.com/model70.htm (http://signalcrafters.com/model70.htm)
Four Power ranges: 5 Watts, 15 Watts, 50 Watts and 150 Watts full scale.
has its own build in 50 Ohm  impedance  standard.

Signalcrafters 110 is a   Rolls Royce. here . It is not  that expensive (second hand) but  it helps  to have comfort of  testing a lot.
If Tesla coil is used than   adjustable mast  from  top of secondary  coil to the Top Capacitor is a must.
After  each  adjustment  impedance match must be corrected.
For these who do not have access to this  equipment  the regular
Chinese VNA Nano
helps. hash=item26af48 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/166149548887?hash=item26af48eb57:g:YZwAAOSwBvpkewFi&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwArEXXix73aFr0Aq0n7t4fR2yacEUZr4bYRsNOiokozNZghCMZuMLGSKG97y49gQUQt5VbNYqf8GmAcZAuNGKOlBqiGKNPSt3S2T6KbaGWDRlNQBRL6SuMQdd37TUf3Z2oURnc2d62IjfQy96Wb7fG13diegqPfpHoGuVkE%2FLVBFoLY077x8TS13pnP1P%2Fl9JzL5lVEUepptePt%2B06icWgk4TBNKeQbKvJQvLv65N5%2Bje6uDF0rKZ8c%2Fj8HD%2BlRPPw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4yE3vbTYg) But VNA can't be used  in real time Transmission.

Note all  loran systems including Russian had  perfect receivers we could use  but I never played with them.
The receivers are fixed frequency. - but for some testing is OK.
4580428016871230&device=c&mktype=&googleloc= (https://www.ebay.com/itm/233462071638?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=233462071638&targetid=4580428016871230&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=603247657&mkgroupid=1229254994528356&rlsatarget=pla-4580428016871230&abcId=9316139&merchantid=51291&msclkid=9b2b234ba0fe1ee601fa464e001a6c47)
I didn't check  what is applicability of this one  so think twice before you buy.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: gyulasun on September 17, 2023, 12:47:09 AM

And by the way, can the respected public tell me if the electronic archive of the once famous magazine “Electronics” has been preserved somewhere?
Hi kolbacict,
See most of the Electronics magazines in pdf file format here:  https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm (https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm)   
Probably this is what you are looking for?   
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 17, 2023, 01:57:10 PM
Yes very amusing, why is it upside sown, and can you translate it to English
and who is stivup, he keeps suggesting i'm a Ruskin spy, whats his problem ?
Just it was so scanned. And it was boring to turn over the page in editor.
https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm (https://worldradiohistory.com/Electronics%20_Master_Page.htm)
sorry for offtop, but i loaded number 14 1977 year. And there is my natural exemplar.
It's turn out that different magazines?

Moderator Note: The totally non related  pictures have been  removed
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 18, 2023, 08:19:23 AM
Okay, I can even virtually smell the mold from old paper.  :D

But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?

This link about LORAN-C in english:

https://libraryarchives.metro.net/dpgtl/usdot/1977-loran-automatic-vehicle-monitoring-system-phase-i-final-report-volume-i-test-results.pdf
 (https://libraryarchives.metro.net/dpgtl/usdot/1977-loran-automatic-vehicle-monitoring-system-phase-i-final-report-volume-i-test-results.pdf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDtHulWGMGg

Modern:

https://www.loran.org/proceedings/Meetings%201999-2002%20need%20work/Meeting2001/10%20Service%20Life%20Ext%20&%20Mod%20of%20AN-FPN64%20Xmitter_Eric%20Johannessen/The%20New%20Transmitter%20Presentation.pdf (https://www.loran.org/proceedings/Meetings%201999-2002%20need%20work/Meeting2001/10%20Service%20Life%20Ext%20&%20Mod%20of%20AN-FPN64%20Xmitter_Eric%20Johannessen/The%20New%20Transmitter%20Presentation.pdf)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 18, 2023, 09:58:56 AM
But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?


I was thinking that when I shall come to live in edge of any ocean. And near will be Loran.C ,transmitting almost half a megawatt  into Shuman' waveguide above the ocean surface. And all I have to do is connect at the right Brewster angle there, and there will be free electricity on my ranch. ;) :)

з.ы.
I apologize, I got confused in the numbering of the magazines. The same one.
But design of the magazine however changed.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 18, 2023, 12:21:26 PM
I was thinking that when I shall come to live in edge of any ocean. And near will be Loran.C ,transmitting almost half a megawatt  into Shuman' waveguide above the ocean surface. And all I have to do is connect at the right Brewster angle there, and there will be free electricity on my ranch. ;) :)
-90 dBm = nothing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrGse7cNi08
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 18, 2023, 05:16:10 PM
But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?
Thank you Sergh  good point at the right time. :)
 https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582279/#msg582279 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582279/#msg582279)

Fear based behavior :
Неосвічена в цій конкретній галузі, особа, яка приймає рішення, повідомлена про технології,
       які можуть бути реальною, раптом  стикається з тестуванням, проведеним українцями та підтриманим на національному рівні

What if it works..?
  What if all these scientists  including Dr. Corum were right?
      А раптом українці на рівні уряду вирішать протестувати його саме в цей час.
          Що робити, ? 
              What if described by Wesley device works, І він вирішує допомогти їм??

                    What if  Ukrainians decide to approach Dr. James Corum asking him directly for help,
                          as he holds 
ownership of all  the patents-they may want to buy immediately .  ??
                              What if they give immediate work to the best scientists they can find in the world  to do that quickly enough?

__________________________________________________________

They  understood the message many of you didn't:
Що, якщо імпульс високої енергії можна перенести з точки А в точку Б, де точка Б є резонуючою структурою на колесах
або на солоній воді моря або в їх басейнах?

But what do these old magazines have to do with Kapanadze’s generator?
-all of this circus  is for one reason :
    Kremlin wants to "flip to the next page"  any information discomforting them in every  forum,
        Its  operatives ( or the innocent but, pushed to act ) tries  to derail the discussed subject,
           or  cover the "unwanted" information with  trash.
              -it is  an opportunity for us  to see how many of them are  there
                   -exposing their true face and role here.
                       Surprisingly some of them are quite valuable, long time members.
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_pieces_of_silver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_pieces_of_silver)



Wesley
advised by the opinion of professional highly educated in art of analysis of human behavior.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 18, 2023, 06:12:18 PM
This is what I'm  talking about.
Salt water of the Black Sea is perfect for much much much larger  forced to be in resonance loads.

https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87 (https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 18, 2023, 08:58:51 PM
Transcript from the video talking about Colorado Springs experiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i67E48OV0&t=87s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i67E48OV0&t=87s)
1:24    "electrically" set up a field of  light bulbs not connected to anything, just stuck in the ground and
           these lights actually lit  in the darkness.
1:37    across  pretty large area and horses started to "skip about" because
           the horses horseshoes were actually starting to react with the ground
           - sorry well it was not entirely safe so
2:21     In Colorado Springs  he had unfortunately blew up the power station at least once

Note: The video was made by historian not by physicists so he didn't manifest  the precise formulation  and understanding of the processes,
            but for us important are the historical facts

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 19, 2023, 09:33:31 AM
https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87 (https://youtu.be/q0i67E48OV0?t=87)
Wesley
The image with many glowing light bulbs on a field from this message is from THE PRESTIGE (2006) Sci-fi movie:https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/ (https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/)

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The Prestige is a 2006 psychological thriller film directed by Christopher Nolan, written by Nolan and his brother Jonathan and based on the 1995 novel by Christopher Priest. It stars Hugh Jackman as Robert Angier and Christian Bale as Alfred Borden, rival stage magicians in Victorian London who feud over a perfect teleportation trick.
This sci-fi film is not related to the real Nikola Tesla.

Let's go back to the real world. What has Tesla done in the field of wireless power transmission?
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Tesla was focused in his research for the practical development of a system for wireless transmission of power and a utilization system. Tesla said, in "On electricity", Electrical Review (Jan. 27, 1897):

    "In fact, progress in this field has given me fresh hope that I shall see the fulfillment of one of my fondest dreams; namely, the transmission of power from station to station without the employment of any connecting wires."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900)
At these times, Nikola Tesla declares absolutely nothing about production of free energy or overunity.
Tesla wrote about free energy 30 years later, in 1930 - 1934. This is  about how he harnessed cosmic rays.

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Three ordinary incandescent lamps lighted to full candle-power by currents induced in a local loop consisting of a single wire forming a square of fifty feet each side, which includes the lamps, and which is at a distance of one hundred feet from the primary circuit energized by the oscillator. The loop likewise includes an electrical condenser, and is exactly attuned to the vibrations of the oscillator, which is worked at less than five percent of its total capacity.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png)

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Tesla eventually sold his rights to his alternating current patents to George Westinghouse for $1,000,000.
After paying off his investors, Tesla spent his remaining funds on his other inventions and culminated his efforts in a major breakthrough in 1899 at Colorado Springs by transmitting 100 million volts of high-frequency Wireless Electricity through a coils magnetic field, over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor in order to power wireless devices! His design was to power devices, remotely. With this souped up version of his Tesla coil, Tesla claimed that only 5% of the transmitted energy was lost in the process.

https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity
 (https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity)
No information about the amperage and power of the light bulbs and the motor.

But this is THE PROBLEM:

"over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor"
Electric motors do not operate on electric current with a frequency of several kilohertz or higher. This frequency is too high for mechanical movements.
50 - 60 - 400 - 1000 Hz maximum (I think)
How did Tesla's motor work if rectifiers for frequencies of several kilohertz did not yet exist?
(I have some thoughts about this, but I will write later, there is a lot to prepare. Besides, I'm not entirely sure about some other aspects...)


I worked at a distance of 5 kilometers from such a powerful transmitter when it was still functioning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYjmuwR1cPc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYjmuwR1cPc)

Yes, incandescent light bulbs sometimes glowed spontaneously. But at 0.01 of full power. The fluorescent lamps also glowed, but not at full power, of course.
Of course, there is no talk of any high efficiency. At a greater distance, nothing like this happened.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 19, 2023, 12:00:05 PM

2:21     In Colorado Springs  he had unfortunately blew up the power station at least once
Wesley
I don't understand what's surprising or unusual here.
In those days, electricians still had no idea that it was dangerous to fill the electrical network with high-voltage, high-frequency pulses.
If you have experimented with high voltage, you have probably encountered damage to the insulation in the power supply transformer. Same problem.
In modern switching power supplies, filters are installed everywhere at the power voltage input.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 19, 2023, 12:35:54 PM
The image with many glowing light bulbs on a field  is from THE PRESTIGE (2006) Sci-fi movie:
https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/ (https://shots.filmschoolrejects.com/the-prestige-2006/)
Yes
What has Tesla done in the field of wireless power transmission?
I do not care to much. I'm not glorifying Tesla.
Only his contribution in the field of my interest matters to me here and now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Springs_Notes,_1899%E2%80%931900)
At these times, Nikola Tesla declares absolutely nothing about production of free energy or overunity.
Tesla wrote about free energy 30 years later, in 1930 - 1934.
True and I agree as  nonsense can't exist.
Explanation:
-Electrical Energy For Free  uses using acronym "Free Energy."
Niagara falls  is the example of Energy for Free using Tesla concept. (But someone sales it  making money on it.)
So for you fellows it is not for free any longer.


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Experiment_in_wireless_power_transmission_by_Nikola_Tesla_at_his_laboratory_in_Colorado_Springs_in_1899.png)
https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity
 (https://www.electricityforum.com/wireless-electricity)No information about the amperage and power of the light bulbs and the motor.
But this is THE PROBLEM:
"over a distance of 26 miles at which he lit up a bank of 200 light bulbs and ran one electric motor"
Electric motors do not operate on electric current with a frequency of several kilohertz or higher. This frequency is too high for mechanical movements.
50 - 60 - 400 - 1000 Hz maximum (I think)
How did Tesla's motor work if rectifiers for frequencies of several kilohertz did not yet exist?
Yes, incandescent light bulbs sometimes glowed spontaneously. But at 0.01 of full power. The fluorescent lamps also glowed, but not at full power, of course.
Of course, there is no talk of any high efficiency. At a greater distance, nothing like this happened.
-Not important how and not important  how much or how many light bulbs - from the Interface stand point.
1 microW at the distance  of Far Field  that  doesn't propagate in that Far Field , assigned to  phenomena
 present in the Interface is enough to  make revolution in the world.
Foolish crowd wants to see a circus with many lightbulbs.

Summary:
Excellent  collection of material  and  analysis from you Sergh.
You are manifesting  level I can respect.
Your skepticism/criticism and  the  level of it is very much  appreciated and important.
Two of my friends in science   Dr.  Roy and Dr. Hans where  exactly the same  till Hans decided to test
made by me device. To his and mine surprise he made it work, possibly because of his skeptical approach.

Resulting outcome from above event:
I was making    several videos  per year .
Since that very  time for the next 3+ years till today I didn't make even one single video.
Any audience  hunger for sensation makes documentary or movie popular and I'm not
interested in popularity at all.
Hope:
Videos are the form of hope for  other people cooperation and voluntary contribution 
made mostly by these not yet successful in it.
Another group is these who  state they have what you do not. -feeding their own need for fame, respect, 
or  teasing potential investors with their  "not yet proven."
- If it is  new than why  it  is not   patent pending?
Reasoning expects  proper explanation convincing  audience or not.

I blabbed to much about  subject matter  making hard enough for  my friend to patent 
his achievement.   Costa Rica experimenting changed everything.
Today all patents belongs to Dr Corum who is over 80 now.
Tesla and Marconi were pioneers in the time of still developing electromagnetism and EM wave.
None of them was successful  in electrical  energy transfer from A to B but they provided  the
mile stones for today's  technology.
Reality :
Diversity represents individualism - composed of distinct or unlike elements or qualities.
Progress imparts a high surface gloss to finished articles, publications, single experiments
in the interest of diversified individual and  individualism collects  human elements together
likely  or mostly in distress.
There is no unity. Diamond has a value when found,  more value when polished, and when in hands
a particular  buyer mostly pleasing his  female.
That is why we have Patent Office protecting  Intellectual  Findings of individuals.
All the  rest is just a dream of these who would like
to have it for free.. Nothing wrong with it, but majority  of the spectators do not want to even try
to replicate it , contribute to it, share it, make it better.
They do not want to learn!!!!
So you Sergh a unique example of a very positive
and respected by me approach analyzing all the variables.
That is  the real value  of constructive skepticism too moving world to the  future.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 19, 2023, 02:27:27 PM
in the few words - all of my writing  :
There  is a special category of majority not even reading what I write if they
do not see easy for their brains form of revelation.
Opportunism regardless of their level to act can be supported by money,- but  only few can afford it.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on September 19, 2023, 03:42:07 PM
"Having examined for a long time the possibilities of the development I refer to, namely, that of the operation of engines on any point of the earth by the energy of the medium, I find that even under the theoretically best conditions such a method of obtaining power can not equal in economy, simplicity and many other features the present method, involving a conversion fo the mechanical energy of running water into electrical energy and the transmission of the latter in the form of currents of very high tension to great distances. "[/font][/size]

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Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on September 19, 2023, 06:06:57 PM
Energy transfer ? In this period Tesla magnifying transmitter was not operational, right ? https://www.facebook.com/tartariamudfloodpage/photos/a.2525108324174540/3031761560175878/?type=3
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on September 19, 2023, 06:13:06 PM
https://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/?a=d&d=MDP19210811-01.2.28&e=-------en-20--1--img-txIN%7ctxCO%7ctxTA--------0------


It appears on the order of the wireless telephone.... but power is taken from air, hmm....Could it be it create a kind of sink for energy like heat pump is doing for heat ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 19, 2023, 06:36:15 PM

 Actually the  highly condensed  salt water with quiet surface  is ideal for it.
In this case, the Dead Sea in Israel might be even better ?
I would go there to build an installation...
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 20, 2023, 03:09:20 PM
"Having examined for a long time the possibilities of the development I refer to, namely, that of the operation of engines on any point of the earth by the energy of the medium, I find that even under the theoretically best conditions such a method of obtaining power can not equal in economy, simplicity and many other features the present method, involving a conversion fo the mechanical energy of running water into electrical energy and the transmission of the latter in the form of currents of very high tension to great distances. "
Tesla's articles must be read in their entirety to understand what they are talking about.In the same section of the article about power generation at Niagara Falls:

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On Electricity

The Address On the Occasion of the Commemoration of the Introduction of Niagara Falls Power In Buffalo At the Ellicot Club, January 12, 1897
Electrical Review, January 27, 1897
...
We have to evolve means for obtaining energy from stores which are forever inexhaustible, to perfect methods which do not imply consumption and waste of any material whatever. Upon this great possibility, which I have long ago recognized, upon this great problem, the practical solution of which means so much for humanity, I have myself concentrated my efforts since a number of years, and a few happy ideas which came to me have inspired me to attempt the most difficult, and given me strength and courage in adversity. Nearly six years ago my confidence had become strong enough to prompt me to an expression of hope in the ultimate solution of this all dominating problem. I have made progress since, and have passed the stage of mere conviction such as is derived from a diligent study of known facts, conclusions and calculations. I now feel sure that the realization of that idea is not far off.

This means that at that time Tesla did not yet have this solution.
He wanted it, but it didn't exist then.

https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/lectures-of-nikola-tesla/on-electricity-commemoration-of-the-introduction-of-niagara-falls-power-in-buffalo-new-york-at-the-ellicott-club-electrical-review-january-27-1897/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/lectures-of-nikola-tesla/on-electricity-commemoration-of-the-introduction-of-niagara-falls-power-in-buffalo-new-york-at-the-ellicott-club-electrical-review-january-27-1897/)

Tesla has many articles that are mainly of philosophical significance and from a practical point of view completely useless. For example, this great article:

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The Problem of Increasing Human Energy

The Century Magazine, June, 1900

Program for the improvement of civilization for the next 100 years.
A lot of things are listed, but this does not mean that everything listed has already been implemented.
https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-by-nikola-tesla-century-illustrated-magazine-june-1900/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-by-nikola-tesla-century-illustrated-magazine-june-1900/)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 20, 2023, 09:37:34 PM
Thank you Serch. I didn't read entire text yet but here is a comment  of Tesla
describing  energy conversion of lightning.
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Tesla: THE THREE WAYS OF INCREASING HUMAN ENERGY
FIG. 1. BURNING THE NITROGEN OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
Note to Fig. 1.—This result is produced by the discharge of an electrical oscillator giving twelve million volts.
The electrical pressure, alternating one hundred thousand times per second, excites the normally inert
nitrogen, causing it to combine with the oxygen.
The flame-like discharge shown in the photograph measures sixty-five feet across.
I do thank you  for the link.
https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy- (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-by-nikola-tesla-century-illustrated-magazine-june-1900/)

This glorified  Tesla  had little  knowledge about lightning and  chemical reaction of components of  atmosphere.
His observation led to many mistakes  not supported proven and explained. Known to us modern science was not there yet.
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burning, exploding, or decomposing nitrogen compounds to form nitrogen gas releases large amounts of often useful energy
Nitrogen is not flammable and not explosive 78% of atmosphere But.. can "become"/assist the quite "explosive" and "burning", under
very special conditions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen)

Tesla's intuition  was genial :
Thunder Storms : 
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Tesla:
FIG. 1. BURNING THE NITROGEN OF THE ATMOSPHERE.
Note to Fig. 1.—This result is produced by the discharge of an electrical oscillator giving twelve million volts.
The electrical pressure, alternating one hundred thousand times per second, excites the
normally inert nitrogen, causing it to combine with the oxygen. The flame-like discharge shown in the photograph measures sixty-five feet across.
science based explanation:
Quote
Under very special conditions, nitrogen can be consumed as if it was supporting the
combustion of other substances.For instance, it can combine with certain unusually reactive metals
not ordinarily found in nature in elemental form, such as magnesium.
-it isn't nitrogen that burns, but magnesium. Nitrogen supports the combustion.
Magnesium isn't found in nature because it much more readily reacts with oxygen.
Thunder Storms
https://sciencing.com/nitrogen-combustible-5397514.html

One of the special circumstances in which nitrogen can be combusted occurs during a thunderstorm.
Lightning causes some nitrogen to react with oxygen to form nitric oxide
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Tesla:
discharge escaping on the top of the ball) one hundred and fifty thousand times per second
he was using 150kHz   
In conjunction with phenomena   named by Tesla Rotating brush:
here: https://youtu.be/GeF2BB8gtbI?t=251 (https://youtu.be/GeF2BB8gtbI?t=251)
experiment was repeated by known from many false explanations author "appearing" close to the crew of Eric Dollard.
-e.g. he claims existence of longitudinal electromagnetic wave
more educated explanation is here:
https://youtu.be/GbMAvn7nRWo?t=62 (https://youtu.be/GbMAvn7nRWo?t=62)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 21, 2023, 12:29:09 AM
Less related but unique in  its value:
teslaresearch increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-magazine-june-1900/ (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/articles-interviews/the-problem-of-increasing-human-energy-with-special-reference-to-the-harnessing-of-the-sun-s-energy-by-nikola-tesla-century-illustrated-magazine-june-1900/)
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Tesla: circuit energized by the oscillator from the distance .
prediction of discovery of remote control.
Quote
Tesla: an electrical wave is reflected, and the same evidence which is afforded by an echo
prediction of discovery of radar.
Quote
Tesla: we may determine the relative position or course of a moving object, such as a vessel at sea, the distance traversed by the same, or its speed;
prediction of discovery of geolocation, triangulation- positioning
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// Tesla: use the earth as a conductor, // the earth may be looked upon as an immense
reservoir of electricity, which, I thought, could be disturbed effectively by a properly designed electrical machine.//
The progress // was  very slow//  I finally succeeded in perfecting a novel kind of transformer
//not only to transmit amounts of electrical energy for operating delicate electrical devices,//
The result obtained was all the more remarkable as the top end of the coil was not connected
to a wire or plate for magnifying the effect.
Discovery of Tesla coil
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1891 //  Tesla: my apparatus was barely capable of lighting one lamp (which result was considered wonderful), \
I state that I have now no difficulty in lighting in this manner four or five hundred lamps, and could light many more.
In fact, there is no limit to the amount of energy which may in this way be supplied to operate any kind of electrical device.
- Tesla's misassumption , -however  leading to our Energy transfer. 
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Tesla: Professor Dewar's beautiful experiments with liquid air, which show that germs of organic life are not destroyed by
cold, no matter how intense; consequently they may be transmitted through the interstellar space
Based on  existent science  - Tesla predicting that life could come from   space  into Earth  e.g germs, microbes -frozen in ice from space
some scientific  literature in this area: https://www.livescience.com/61515-astrovirology-viruses-at-large.html (https://www.livescience.com/61515-astrovirology-viruses-at-large.html)
Panspermia#:~:text=Some%20microbes%interplanetary (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia#:~:text=Some%20microbes%20appear%20able%20to%20survive%20the%20planetary,interplanetary%20%28between%20planets%20in%20the%20same%20star%20system%29.)
Mentioned  by Tesla researcher : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dewar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dewar)
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rhythm? All life-manifestation, \\ is only a movement, to which the same general laws of movement which govern throughout the physical universe must be applicable.
Tesla was raised as an Orthodox Christian. Later in his life, he did not consider himself to be a "believer in the orthodox sense" and opposed religious fanaticism.
Tesla - Atheist
./Nikola_Tesla (https://www.celebatheists.com/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#:~:text=Tesla%20was%20raised%20as%20an%20Orthodox%20Christian.%20Later,a%20profound%20respect%20for%20both%20Buddhism%20and%20Christianity.) My respect.


My own prediction/ expectations:

Not far from today country leaded by officially recognized Far Eastern European terrorists, will collapse again
disintegrating into much smaller pieces than in 1990.
Civilized world including Americans will no longer fear to provide scientific tests in their perfect salt water areas there, 
I'm interested  in area of
fourth-largest lake in the world (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lakes_by_area) Aral Sea .
This area  survived naturally hundreds of millions of years only
to be totally destroyed by these particular
savages between 1960 and 2007=47 years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea)

opinion expressed is my own.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 21, 2023, 10:55:38 AM
especially if the form of  high energy impulse energy transfer from A to B. into a resonating load.
What are you mean, is a resonating load ? How should it look like ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 21, 2023, 12:39:16 PM
Antenna acts  as a resonating load, to the signal source using  properly matched transmission line .
The same applies to any configuration containing  any load and any signal source with respect to medium or means carrying out
the signal.
Little mix-up:
-Newton's First Law of Motion states that an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless an external force acts upon it.
-Photon energy is the energy carried by a single photon. The amount of energy is directly proportional to the photon's electromagnetic frequency
 The higher is the frequency the more energy is there (- more energetic is photon..)
 Practically we do not care about it till frequency is lower than harmful to us ultraviolet.
-Photon cannot lose all of its energy till it does.
 And it does  due to e.g. universe expansion or  interaction with matter e.g. load.
-Resonating load  allows us to make energy of photon benefiting our application.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 21, 2023, 01:12:56 PM
I mean in case use it as weapon. What and where there must blow up?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on September 21, 2023, 05:29:50 PM
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If you want to discuss politics, please go to a different forum...
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Many thanks for understanding.
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Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 22, 2023, 02:07:42 PM
Satisfying Interface  requirement:

Yet another perfect test  site Bonneville salt flats
it is located  in Utah USA
12 miles (19 km) long and 5 miles (8 km) wide, with a crust almost 5 ft (1.5m) thick at the center and less than one inch (2.5 cm) towards the edges.
It is estimated to hold 147 million tons of salt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_(chemistry)), approximately 90% of which is common table salt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt)2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonneville_Salt_Flats#cite_note-blmbsf-2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonneville_Salt_Flats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonneville_Salt_Flats)
https://www.rideapart.com/news/253776/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-bonneville-salt-flats/ (https://www.rideapart.com/news/253776/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-bonneville-salt-flats/)

For uneducated  in  the particular field
spectators :
- Looking for cheap entertainment
https://youtu.be/Pn36LVoAu3Q?t=10 (https://youtu.be/Pn36LVoAu3Q?t=10) watch this one only 2 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55p0Iz9K-o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55p0Iz9K-o)
https://youtu.be/YzHpZQ36BWg?t=48 (https://youtu.be/YzHpZQ36BWg?t=48) - for us important in this  video is that car got stuck ( amount of vapor/water vs conductivity)
but the most amazing in this video is  this salt water   canal https://youtu.be/YzHpZQ36BWg?t=72 (https://youtu.be/YzHpZQ36BWg?t=72)
Wow....
Experimenter apparatus  doesn't have to be  in that water but next  to it  at any time of the  year.
In the same video we see that person walking  on that salt  is sinking about 20cm. Simply great.
What a dream for an experimenter.

Conductivity:
Conductivity of Solutions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WillWjxRWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WillWjxRWw)
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We look at the electrical conductivity of several solutions. \
Substances include tap water, distilled water, sodium chloride, hydrochloric acid, sodium hydroxide, sugar, vinegar, ethanol, and barium sulfate.
The solutions are mixed to approximately the same ratios.
The tester is a pair of stripped copper wires at line voltage in series with a 25W incandescent bulb.
The probe is rinsed in distilled water between each test.
Dry salt is not conductive because it is made of ionic compounds that have ions that are not free to move  link: 1 (https://biotrux.com/is-salt-conductive/) and 2 (https://socratic.org/questions/what-is-the-conductivity-of-salts)

Three factors makes this site usable for us:
-Humidity
-Ground water 
-Winter time.
https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1585/report.pdf (https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/1585/report.pdf)


General rule:
Quote
If the rel. humidity is lower than 75%, the solution evaporates and the salt crystallizes.If the rel. humidity is higher than 75%, the solution absorbs the air moisture and the salt is dissolving.
https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/112911/scientific-reason-for-salt-solution-gaining-volume (https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/112911/scientific-reason-for-salt-solution-gaining-volume)
How to know if the site is usable due to salt conductivity:
Relative Humidity vs Dewpoint https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiejHVHrdOo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiejHVHrdOo)

Usability of the site :
That makes Bonneville salt flats  usable for us almost entire  year.
My partner in science once said:
1 day of testing in the right condition  can make an experimenter a billionaire at no time- (at no time-idiom)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 22, 2023, 06:37:22 PM
for these who  decide to  provide tests in mid November
https://youtu.be/-OxpLkYTByU?t=42 (https://youtu.be/-OxpLkYTByU?t=42)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 22, 2023, 09:31:46 PM
tell me about mr Delamoto ?
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4510.msg107039#msg107039
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 26, 2023, 12:52:15 PM
But let's go back to Nikola Tesla.
The wireless transmission of energy over a distance of 26 miles to illuminate 200 incandescent lamps is presented everywhere as a historical fact. But what was it really?
In today's serious understanding, such wireless transmission of significant power looks very doubtful. Using this technique, transmission is possible over relatively short distances, a few tens or hundreds of feet maximum, with an efficiency of 0.5 - 0.6.

So what was Tesla's story about?

The only report of long-distance transmission by Tesla is a claim that in 1899 he wirelessly lit 200 light bulbs at a distance of 26 miles (42 km). There is no independent confirmation of this demonstration; Tesla did not mention it, and it does not appear in his laboratory notes. It originated in 1944 from Tesla’s first biographer, John J. O’Neill, who said he pieced it together from “fragmentary material in a number of publications”

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It was Tesla's intention to make the development of his discoveries a one - man job. He was completely confident , at this time , of his ability to live a century and a quarter , and to be actively engaged in creative experimental work up to at least his one - hundredth birthday , at which time he would give serious thought to the task of writing his biography and a complete record of his experimental work . Up to almost his eightieth year he adhered to this plan without doubt as to its ultimate consummation.

As a result of this most unfortunate design, technical details are lacking concerning the principal discoveries made at Colorado Springs. By piecing together the fragmentary material published in a number of publications, however, it appears evident, that Tesla, in addition to experiments with his gigantic current movements, as a means of establishing world - wide broadcasts and making a number of detectors for such use, tested his power transmission system at a distance of 26 miles from his laboratory and was able to light 200 incandescent lamps, of the Edison type, with electrical energy extracted from the earth while his oscillator was operating. These lamps consumed about fifty watts each, and if two hundred were used in the test bank, the energy consumed would be 10,000 watts, or approximately thirteen horsepower .
Transmission of thirteen horsepower wirelessly through the earth for a distance of twenty - six miles can be accepted as a very adequate demonstration of the practicability of Tesla's plan. He claimed an efficiency of higher than 95 per cent for this method of energy transmission ; so he could , undoubtedly , with a 300 horsepower oscillator , operate more than a dozen such test demonstrations simultaneously anywhere on the globe . With respect to the latter point he stated, “In this new system it matters little — in fact, almost nothing — whether the transmission is effected at a distance of a few miles, or of a few thousand miles.”
"While I have not as yet,” he stated in the Century article of June , 1900 , " actually effected a transmission of a considerable amount of energy, such as would be of industrial importance , to a great distance by this new method, I have operated several model plants under exactly the same conditions which will exist in a large plant of this kind, and the practicability of the system is thoroughly demonstrated."
Tesla was insistent, in his latter decades, on the existence, the actuality, the importance and availability of many undisclosed discoveries which he made at Colorado Springs. The author urged upon Tesla two or three times the desirability of making a disclosure, against the ever present danger of an accident that might cause them to be lost to the world; and when the inventor was unimpressed by this possibility, he was asked to permit the author to do something that would bring about their practical development. Tesla was courteously appreciative of the interest manifested, but he was very emphatic in his insistence that he would handle his own affairs as he saw fit, and that he expected shortly to have adequate funds to develop his inventions.

TESLA returned to New York, in the fall of 1899, broke once more, but with the knowledge that his efforts had greatly enriched humanity with important scientific discoveries.

O'Neill, John J. (1944). Prodigal Genius: The life of Nikola Tesla. Ives Washburn, Inc. p. 193. (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015013060820&view=1up&seq=207)


But how could this work? What if it was not a wireless transmission of energy, but a wireless transmission of a signal to turn on the lamps?
Around the same time, Tesla was working on remote control.

"Telautomatics" (https://teslaresearch.jimdofree.com/telautomatics-nov-8-1898/)

"Teleforce" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleforce)

Patent US685958A "Method of utilizing radiant energy" (https://patents.google.com/patent/US685958A/en?oq=us685958)

Fig. 1 Handwriting: "Electric stepping motor energized by corpuscular energy from Sun"

Isn't this the same motor that Wikipedia mentions about 26 miles, 200 lamps and 1 motor?

US685957A Apparatus for the utilization of radiant energy. (https://patents.google.com/patent/US685957A/en?oq=US685957A)

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The second terminal or armature of the condenser may be connected to one of the poles of a battery or other source of electricity or to any conducting body or objectwhatever of go such properties or so conditioned that by its means electricity of the required sign will be supplied to the terminal.
...

In illustration of a particular form of apparatus which may be used in carrying out my discovery I now refer to Fig. 2. In this figure, which in the general arrangement of the elements is identical to Fig. 1, the device d is shown as composed of two very thin conducting-plates t t', placed in close proximity and very mobile, either by reason of extreme flexibility or owing to the character of their support. To improve their action, they should be inclosed in a receptacle, from which the air may be exhausted. The plates t t' are connected in series with a working circuit, including a suitable receiver, which in this case is shown as consisting of an eleetromagnet M, a movable armature a, a retractile spring b, and a ratchet-wheel w, provided with a spring-pawl r, which is pivoted to armature a, as illustrated. When the radiations of the Sun or other radiant source fall upon plate P, a current flows into the condenser, as above explained, until the potential therein rises sufficiently to attract and bring into contact the two plates t t', and thereby close the circuit connected to the two condenser-terminals. This permits a flow of current which energizes the magnet M, causing it to draw down the armature a and impart a partial rotation to the ratchet-wheel w. As the current ceases the armature is retracted by the spring b, without, however, moving the wheel w. With the stoppage of the current the plates t t' cease to be attracted and separate, thus restoring the circuit to its original condition.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 26, 2023, 11:45:39 PM
The answer is provided in maximum condensed  form as most of this
forum readers doesn't like to read if they feel like intimidated by level of technicality.
But let's go back to Nikola Tesla.
The wireless transmission of energy over a distance of 26 miles to illuminate 200 incandescent lamps is presented everywhere as a historical fact.
  I responded to it already but in short  form:

Line of sight:
Radio wave  propagates in straight line.
If antenna of TX( transmitter) is 1m long and Rx (receiver) is 1m long the radio horizon is 4.12 km
https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/line-of-sight-calculator (https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/line-of-sight-calculator)

From that point  Radio wave  doesn't fallow earth curvature. - The wave  can't be received by 1m high Rx antenna
in line of sight https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_sight (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_sight)
However depends from its frequency Radio waves can follow the curvature of the Earth beyond the visible horizon if they are
deflected in a number of ways as they move through the troposphere, such as reflection, refraction, or diffraction by air molecules

The Tesla experiment distance was stated 41.84km= 26 miles.
For signal to be able to be received both Tx and Rx. antennas must be at elevated to 100m=300ft.  (in "line of sight")

The frequency of the signal:
- was 20kHz( we do not know we just assume) or typical to this time 100kHz.
If Tesla used  frequency range  3–30 kHz known as Ground wave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_wave (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_wave) than:
VLF radio waves can diffract around large obstacles and so are not blocked by mountain ranges, and can propagate as ground waves
following the curvature of the Earth and so are not limited by the horizon.
If Tesla used 100kHz or more than it doesn't  (in "line of sight")

Inverse square law for  radio wave:
Radio waves lose intensity as they travel outward from their source, obeying the inverse-square law,
which states that intensity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from a source1 (https://www.rfvenue.com/blog/2014/12/15/when-it-comes-to-rf-distance-plays-tricks-with-the-mind) 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-space_path_loss)
Tesla would lose  over the distance 41.84km 28.77960095 db =-99.86% of power.  if his antenna gain was 1
https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/free-space-path-loss-calculator (https://www.everythingrf.com/rf-calculators/free-space-path-loss-calculator)
https://lasercalculator.com/db-percent-converter/ (https://lasercalculator.com/db-percent-converter/)   (even if EM wave was directionally concentrated  like laser.)
Note: some error in calculation is  possible but not much - as we are using  calculator db to percentage made for lasers( -that is also EM wave)

But how could this work? What if it was not a wireless transmission of energy, but a wireless transmission of a signal to turn on the lamps?
Your statement is confusing. Signal is energy (has energy) and yes it could act as  remote control activating relay of Rx.

Conclusions:
If  Tesla unknowingly used  A to B  energy transfer promoted by Dr James Corum that originated as
surface wave or Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface wave in ~  1908 than everything is  easily explainable.
1. The  lower is the frequency the lower are the losses till they become marginal
2. Inverse square  law doesn't apply to waveguides.
Note: more   accurate  explanation was provided  many times by me.

Wesley.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 27, 2023, 10:07:11 AM
1. The antenna that Tesla used in 1900 in Colorado Springs was not directional. This can be seen from the old original photos. Just a vertically raised conductor with a sphere on top. In this way, energy could be radiated in all directions.

2. Okay, energy is radiated across the surface of the Earth. But what of this? The energy density per 1 meter circle with a radius of 26 miles from the transmitter antenna will also decrease, but in proportion to the distance (not the square of the distance).
I have no idea how to accurately calculate the power at the Tesla receiving antenna.
But since no one has been able to use powerful low-frequency signals for submarines to generate electricity, this will be impossible.

 Conventional calculations for normal antennas are not suitable, since Tesla coils do not meet the prerequisites of these calculations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(antenna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_(antenna))
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friis_transmission_equation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friis_transmission_equation)

3. Theme of resonance with the Earth.
Yes, of course, if Tesla used the resonance of the planet Earth, then it would be necessary to count differently, as 2 connected circuits.
But his settings seem to be at much higher frequencies.
Resonance is strong only at the main frequency. At multiple frequencies it is no longer so strong. Especially when the multiple frequency is very far from the main one.
  And with the resonance of the Earth, everything is not so good. The Schumann resonance is constantly fueled by lightning, but there are no electrical storms on our planet, like on the planet Pandora from the movie "Avatar". And even to simply detect the presence of the Schumann resonance, you need very sensitive equipment with excellent input filters. Otherwise, the device input will be overloaded with an industrial frequency of 50 -60 Hz.
And even when the Schumann resonance is recorded, the sinusoid looks very bad, with phase breaks.
It follows from this that the quality of planet Earth as an electrical resonator is very poor. Big losses due to bad surface conductivity and non-ideal dielectric properties of the atmosphere.

4. Waveguide is a closed space with high electrical efficiency of all its elements. Okay, if you find a channel with very salty water in the salt lake, it can probably somehow be used as a waveguide for some specific range of frequencies that do not attenuate much due to conducted losses.
But what does this salt water channel have to do with what Tesla was doing in Colorado Springs in the 1900s?
 
I do not find salt lakes here:

https://earth.google.com/web/search/Nikola+Tesla+Colorado+Springs (https://earth.google.com/web/search/Nikola+Tesla+Colorado+Springs)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on September 27, 2023, 11:23:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv-izKj6Ltc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv-izKj6Ltc)
Is this true? :)
besides that how does he fat !  ;D
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on September 27, 2023, 01:56:45 PM
the Schumann resonance// Big losses due to bad surface conductivity and
non-ideal dielectric properties of the atmosphere.

4. Waveguide is a closed space with high electrical efficiency of all its elements.
Okay, if you find a channel with very salty water in the salt lake, it can probably somehow
be used as a waveguide for some specific range of frequencies that do not attenuate much
due to conducted losses.
But what does this salt water channel have to do with what Tesla was doing in Colorado Springs
in the 1900s?
I do not find salt lakes here:
https://earth.google.com/web/search/Nikola+Tesla+Colorado+Springs (https://earth.google.com/web/search/Nikola+Tesla+Colorado+Springs)
Answer in condensed form:
Every possible speculation, fantasy, or imagination product is always the effect of  its author  technical and/or scientific level based on desired application.
Scientist uses "the known" as a base to form structure having carefully added "the unknown"
Your structure Sergh  differs to much from mine. I'm too conservative for that.
 
_________________________________________________________
The goal:
find the answer: "how", "why", and "what  for".
"why"          - the answer is curiosity and gain
"what for"    - the answer is  fame and money
"how"          - the answer and provided by me explanation is still not  causing you to  do what I did.
Result:
for me it works  it  was checked, tested and I have working model.
 for  you it  was not checked, not tested and You do not have working model.
____________________________________
Explanation  of some   elements:

Flat 2D waveguide needs  two elements  the conductor and dielectric.
Salt  has much better conductivity than  earth.
Air  is  everywhere  ~the same.
Result:
more perfect car  drives easier.
more perfect  waveguide allows easier faster learning , needed than to understand  another yet
process of Energy extraction from Schuman waveguide.(=FE)
-No need for  good grounding
-salt  quiet surface is  perfect for seeing the  results instead of hunting for the results.
____________________________________

Summary:
If  Dr Zenneck  was conducting his (New York State ) 1936 Seneca lake experiment  in
in Utah Salt Lake City  than Dr Borrow  ( in 1936 he was  powerful official) would never be able to
shut down this  branch of science  till in 1952  Dr Goubau presented G line and  in 2007 Dr Corum
made his  provisional patent  reintroducing   waveguide called 2 D interface .
Tesla had no idea about Interface ( he should of build his tower in Salt Lake  City instead)
Dr Zenneck , Dr Goubau and Dr Corum didn't think about Salt water too.
I did.


opinion  expressed is my own

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on September 29, 2023, 11:16:44 AM

Tesla had no idea about Interface

Wesley
You think so that Tesla had no idea about the interface, because Tesla did not tell anyone anything about his real devices.
In one of my previous posts there was a link to a book about Tesla, page 193.

O'Neill, John J. (1944). Prodigal Genius: The life of Nikola Tesla. Ives Washburn, Inc. p. 193. (https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015013060820&view=1up&seq=207)

Wesley, did you read the next page, p. 194?

If you are sure that you are right, then do something. Not for me, for yourself.


Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 02, 2023, 09:48:59 AM
personal,individual,freedom
 ' Made in ...'
 U.S. Republicans and Democrats
Hollywood,actors on strike...
If this style seems progressive to someone, then my opinion based on your postings is this:
- completely offtopic. No information regarding Kapanadze's devices or Wesley's research.
If I started dragging info scam from the Internet into all topics, the forum would be torn to pieces.
We are not enough old to descend to the level of conversation between two senior in a pub.
 Wesley, please act as a moderator.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 03, 2023, 01:43:20 AM
1 drop of water may turn into powerful explosion.
To save you time I will point  at material that can be skipped or partially viewed.
 ______________________________________
The phenomena is largely unknown to engineering community and totally  unknown  to most of the audience here.
Quote:
 History of Water Arc Explosions
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The unusual strength of explosions caused by a pulsed current flowing through water plasma was first noticed in 1907
by Trowbridge [ 11 in his early high voltage laboratory at Harvard University   
explosion is not caused by heat and steam  ! and can easily cause rock fragmentation !
more of it is in the link:_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Granea The Anomalous (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)
__________________________________________________________________
1. First video to watch for 1 minute only.
Dr Jaynes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGecOw5UKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGecOw5UKQ)
2. second video to watch for 1 minute only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyBahrxRxNw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyBahrxRxNw)
3. third  video to watch is
You may watch it fully but if you want to  get to specific than watch from here :
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=732 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=732)
The subject is related to catastrophic explosions in power  line transformers, houses, people next to electrical circuits, street manholes etc.
Right  amount of water  drops  into the spark triggers the phenomena.
I may present  you more material  later and formulate questions and comments.
I may also decide to delete this particular comment, - will see...........................

This article provides  partial answer to  Kolbacict   question formulated  by his  curators week ago
when, why, and what .
-in relation to resonating load, if we  use A to B energy transfer to an object that at some point of its internal structure
will always have the required conditions - especially related to  objects at the surface of the sea.


Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 03, 2023, 10:27:11 AM
1. First video to watch for 1 minute only.
Dr Jaynes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGecOw5UKQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGecOw5UKQ)

Hello Wesley!

Thank you for writing messages relevant to the topic.

Regarding capacitor discharges in water.
This direction was discussed on free energy forums. In the ex-USSR environment this is called the “Yutkin Effect”.
https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/ruvds/articles/556530/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en (https://habr-com.translate.goog/ru/companies/ruvds/articles/556530/?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en)

Here is Yutkin's .pdf book  about various types and technologies of discharge in water, you can download the file and translate it via Google Translator as a "Document":

http://bourabai.ru/library/elektrogidravlicheski_effekt.pdf (http://bourabai.ru/library/elektrogidravlicheski_effekt.pdf)

About Dr Jaynes video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aGecOw5UKQ) of capacitor discharge 

From the video it is clear that Dr Jaynes uses a 2400 microfarad capacitor, charged to a voltage of 330 volts. Using the formula for calculating the energy of a capacitor, we obtain a discharge energy of 130 Joules. This is quite a lot of capacitor energy.

As a child, I played with capacitors, discharging them with a screwdriver. I can tell you with 100% confidence that if you discharge such a 2400 microfarad 330 volt capacitor with a screwdriver, there will be a very loud sound and a lot of sparks. The sound will be so loud that you may go deaf for a while.
And all this WITHOUT WATER!

The mistake of Dr Jaynes is that it was necessary to make video about discharge of the same capacitor, charged to the same voltage, with the same electrodes, but without water. Just short-circuit the electrodes with a piece of metal. I'm sure the effect would be the same. However, you can search for discharges of capacitors similar in voltage and capacitance on YouTube or experiment yourself, observing safety precautions. After several such discharges, the capacitor will probably become unusable. Internal connections may melt and break.
For example, here you can see a discharge capacitor with 2 times less capacity and unknown voltage charged:
https://youtube.com/shorts/MQ8_zJmTabs (https://youtube.com/shorts/MQ8_zJmTabs)

It is the basic rule. If you have obtained some interesting effect and explained it theoretically, then remove the main element and repeat the experiment. If the effect remains the same, your theoretical explanation has been proven wrong.

My conclusion: - Simple capacitor discharges in water are unlikely to be a source of free energy. But:

1. Similar discharge can be used as a tool for creating high pulse pressure for other areas of searching for free energy. This is something I thought about earlier. The problem is that the capacitor discharge needs to be serialized somehow. Significant energy consumption.

2. You can use a capacitor discharge in a nanostructured substance. To make it clear, for example, a discharge in wet wood or even in a cucumber or melon. Funny. But, cellular tissue consists of many ultrathin membranes. With a sharp short pulse of current, an ion shock occurs on these membranes. Anything can happen here. According to rumors, LENR was expected. Short powerful pulses are needed, with enough energy to balance at a level sufficient for LENR but not enough to burn the membranes.
Expected form of free energy:
- low-temperature thermal energy, up to +40 degrees Celsius. If you try to get a higher temperature, the membranes may cook and become unusable.
- low-voltage current pulses, much longer than discharge pulses.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 03, 2023, 01:13:15 PM

1. Similar discharge can be used as a tool for creating high pulse pressure
Is it possible to make diamonds using this method ?
Let's make diamonds, lots and lots of them. Then I'll go to New York and buy out Wesley's laboratory... 8)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 03, 2023, 01:18:59 PM
Sergh thank you very much - fascinating subject.
I do thank you for  your contributing material.
If you  have the original link to Dr Yutkin  translation you posted I'll be happy to read it.
Please post it . Russian language is no problem for me any longer.
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki\ (https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AE%D1%82%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD%2C_%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%B2_%D0%90%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B4%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87)

The audience here  doesn't yet see the importance and  value of it, I think.
On the other hand some application of it  may not be suitable to be publicly  discussed, unless we switch
into a very much technicality of it.

Here is the example of  format of technicality comfortable to be used in this forum:
It was increasingly thrilling to look at DUT behavior  similar to that  presented in video, but its culmination was
looking at the same DUT from the distance of ~5 km with use of  "A to B."
No significant losses were  noticed, even  more - we were  under impression  that something is amplifying the effect.
We didn't  have time to try it in Costa Rica., but  I ordered it to be tried in Baltic sea .
They couldn't  conform  if there  was  "amplification" but I was told that  for an eye it look shockingly unexplained.
At land  there were cameras and  watching the load (DUT) technician, but effect at sea is many times stronger or just look stronger
many times. Salinity  of the water helps "A to B"  over distance but  The  same DUT at sea simply vaporized.
The first test  was provided along the coast line  Gdansk, Gdynia, Orlowo in Trojmiasto - this was easy :
Test A -  coast to coast over curvature. No  deep water, relatively  quiet surface between "A to B" distance more than 5km in line of sight
              ( not to many people walking on the sand )
Test B-   the second test was   coast to sea - actually not  exactly like that - there is curved coast line  but DUT was at sea.
   That is one of the reasons I  become interested with Salt Lake City:- easiness of  any tests.
   https://www.utah.com/destinations/natural-areas/bonneville-salt-flats/ (https://www.utah.com/destinations/natural-areas/bonneville-salt-flats/)

 Russia or  Uzbekistan ( the most perfect  test site) is not accessible to  me for obvious reasons.


opinion expressed is  my own

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 03, 2023, 02:20:12 PM
Note: related to my comment  from above.at the test in Trojmiasto
- Test B- didn't try yet voice communication "A to B" nor video "A to B."
- no modulated carrier was ever tested by me yet,  that is
of  course if we exclude High Energy Pulse after "A to B" is established.
But that is easy.  It is  not really high energy but  the short time condensed
impulse that could come from regular 12V/15AH bat  similar to  the one  created in radar.
https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/25848415.pdf (https://www.atlantis-press.com/article/25848415.pdf)
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The pulse generating circuit which can generate the pulse signal with the frequency 22.5kHz, the period 44.4s and the pulse width of 19.5s

However, the impulse   created was many times shorter and by that more powerful. 
HV come from the secondary of the Tesla air transformer.
Actually once H2O is affected the length of the impulse is not important any longer. 
The goal is to satisfy the H2O process described above. 
Frequency applied  to DUT doesn't apply to the entire structure of the load,- instead   
only its resonating part becomes a load. But then the Rx impedance match becomes critical. 
So very large DUT are quite good. 
The procedure  requires quite fast scanning.
It is normal that  seen resonance is not present in the next scan 
So impulse injection  needs to be done immediately when Resonating Load Condition is  established. 
Note: 50 ohm is no longer impedance standard for "A to B" so transmatch or automatic transmatch  is required at Tx site.

Test B: floating  base with no crew  .
Means of documenting  were established with traditional wireless methods.
one "in the air " in close vicinity but not too close .
( limitation: only 45 minutes from start to end of documenting time frame with resolution of 4k)
and  second  at 2m band.
Resonating Load  DUT disintegrated quite rapidly ,along with entire floating test base
as result of the process involving H2O in the right proportion.
opinion expressed is my own
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 04, 2023, 02:51:59 AM
Basis we can discuss freely in the article many of you missed to read.
I repeat it again:
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20- (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-)Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)
Let me know it it doesn't open for you.

You do not need to be physicist to read:
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Twin City Mining Research Center noticed that the energy output was apparently 156% of the input.
This translates to  simple enough for an average reader analogy
$100 in every 0.01s turns into $156
- loss= +56 per 0.01s
But that was only preliminary reading scientists didn't have explanation of.
There is much much more in the article.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 04, 2023, 10:50:52 AM
Wesley, please act as a moderator.
Yes. flood is not very well. I agree.
But is it much more better when after some time the topics simply had gone into oblivion ?
How did we get excited about Zografos, and where is it now? Or about Kapanadze’s green box, just recently.And so on everywhere, no result.
p.s.
By the way, the mouse promised me a translation of this picture, his version. But so far there is silence.

Let me know it it doesn't open for you.
I have the second link, but not the first.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 11:48:15 AM
Wesley, thank you for reminding about the link:
N. Graneau "THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS"  (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)
This direction was previously interesting. But during the experiments there were no noticeable successes.

Okay, comments to this article:

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Not until the mid-1980s was the scientific basis of the puzzling explosions more extensively researched.
At MIT [6,7]. It was shown that the discharge of 3.6 kJ of stored capacitor energy would create pressures in excess of 20,000 atm. in 7 ml of water. 3.6 gm of water was ejected from an accelerator barrel at a velocity of the order of 1000 m/s, sufficient to penetrate a 1/4" thick aluminium plate [8].

A lot of energy was used. The result is not impressive. A bullet from a Kalashnikov assault rifle with approximately the same shot energy pierces through a railway rail. But it's 1/2 inch steel, not 1/4" aluminum..

If an electric arc is formed in the discharge gap from a high current, the magnetic field will push this arc out of the discharge gap. Such an arc can extend to the side by several centimeters. The same principle as a railgun, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun)

 but instead of rails and a projectile, an arc plasma conductor is used. If this plasma arc tongue touches any metal surface, the entire arc current will flow through that metal. Thus, this plasma tongue can lick the foil to holes if it reaches it.


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Theoretical Understanding
The most likely explanation of the fog explosions is that they are caused by the liberation of intermolecular bonding energy when the bulk water is transformed into tiny fog droplets. This bonding is caused both by hydrogen bonds and Van der Waals forces, and the energy stored by the bonds is roughly equal to the latent heat of the water,
and is found to be 2.3 kJ/gm at room temperature. The creation of a large number of droplets is thought to be caused by the mechanical effects of the electrodynamic forces in the arc discharge. A certain amount of mechanical energy is thus used to create the droplets and is consequently stored as surface tension energy.

- So far this is just energy consumption.

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However the molecules in the small droplets now have significantly fewer neighbours than in the bulk water and can thus reorientate themselves more easily into lower energy states. These lower energies imply that the bonds become stronger. This bond redistribution behaviour is normally observed in thin films of water called vicinal water. Recent results of inelastic incoherent neutron scattering (DNS) experiments in water and ice [10] have revealed the existence of two strengths of hydrogen bond. In water they are found to have bonding vibrational force constants of 24 and 32 meV, and are referred to as the weak and strong bonds respectively.

- It's better here. Graneau suggests that water in the form of very small drops becomes “more dense” and because of this energy is released. If you grind water, then in a microscopic drop the water will go into a more dense form and because of this energy will be released.
But.. :-\ There are such devices, ultrasonic humidifiers, or water atomizers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzb8sfLI_ZE) The piezoceramic plate oscillates with a frequency of 1 - 2 Megahertz. These high-frequency vibrations are transmitted to the water and because of this, very small droplets of water break off from the surface of the water in the form of mist. You are probably familiar with such devices. Cold “steam” and fog come out of them.
But for some reason, no additional energy is obtained from the “compacted water” in them, all parts are relatively cold, nothing unusual happens.

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If in die newly formed droplet, some of the weak bonds drop to the strong bond energy in a quantum shift, there will be a consequent release of kinetic energy causing the vicinal droplets to repel each other, resulting in the observed explosion.

Somehow doubtful. Some kind of chain reaction. Drops in which the water has not passed into a more dense form must therefore pass into a more dense form of water and also release energy. "Quantum Shift". In lasers, when electrons move between energy levels, coherent energy is released in the form of photons. And here in the form of what? In the form of vibration of drops.? Sound laser powered by water drops...

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After the explosion, in order to restore the droplets to their normal bulk state, some energy input must be required, and in our case this must come from atmospheric heat. This process can occur away from the explosion region and over a much longer time. Therefore the explosion is conjectured to be a sudden release of energy from the water that was initially stored by atmospheric heating, and is later restored into the water after the explosion also by atmospheric heat, while in the meantime the net gain in kinetic energy can be harnessed for useful means.

This means that the reacted water becomes unsuitable for reuse. Water needs some time to recover, to break the tight hydrogen bonds under the influence of the heat of solar radiation. But then why can't these tight bonds break during the discharge, which creates massive collisions of water, which is the same heat? There is an inconsistency in the author's reasoning. Illogical, makes me doubt it.

Regardless of the correctness of Graneau's theoretical justification, this is interesting. Wesley, do you remember I gave a link to the American inventors of the water motor? Where a thin stream of water from a nozzle under very high pressure of about 1000 atmospheres was broken against a specially shaped barrier? Because of this, the water became very hot and evaporated. They had a working prototype of the motor on video. I think this motor could use a similar process. Have you tried to contact them?

Let's return to Graneau's article. These are the articles he refers to that I have long wanted to read, but could not find anywhere on the Internet:

[2] Früngel F., "Zum mechanischen Wirkungsgrad von Flussigkeitsfimken", Optik, 3, p.125, (1948)

[4] Früngel F., High speed pulse technology, Vol.2, Academic Press, New York, 1965

The reference to [4] was mentioned somewhere in the context of Edwin Gray's devices.
About Früngel, Frank, Dr.-Ing., Hamburg:
https://patents.google.com/patent/DE2057736B2/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE2057736B2/en)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 12:03:27 PM
How did we get excited about Zografos, and where is it now? Or about Kapanadze’s green box, just recently.And so on everywhere, no result.
Yeah... You were shown some kind of sausage on video, and you need to restore the animal from which this sausage was made. (It's a joke.)

It’s hard, but we’re trying to move forward somehow.

By the way, the mouse promised me a translation of this picture, his version. But so far there is silence.
  Ask him again, maybe the message was not delivered for some reason.

The link from Wesley message:
N. Graneau "THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS"  (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on October 04, 2023, 12:32:58 PM
Sergh,' Fluessigkeitsfunken' ,as part from cavitation science and applied ' optical maser = laser' technique ,:

Dr.Frank Fruengel giving use description :

https://patents.google.com/patent/DE1037830B/en
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
DIY Project: Using a discharge in water to propel a rocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE)

Another videos the same autor:

https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos)
The peculiarity is that the discharge gap in the water is initially short-circuited with a thin wire or foil. This is done because it is difficult to achieve breakdown in water at a relatively low voltage. Even at a voltage of 10 kilovolts, breakdown occurs at a distance of less than a millimeter. Dr Jaynes also talks about this problem in the video at Wesley's links. Kolbacict wrote here that he also encountered this problem. This is extremely inconvenient if you have relatively low-voltage capacitors at your disposal. Therefore, a jumper made of a thin conductor is used, which burns out and initiates an arc.
There was such a topic  “explosion of thin wires in water (https://www.google.com/search?q=explosion+of+thin+wires+in+water)”, they also wrote that there was an anomalous release of energy.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on October 04, 2023, 12:48:58 PM
Lev Yutkin's electrohydraulic kick:

http://zaryad.com/2013/07/05/effekt-yutkina-gidroudar-ili-davlenie-v-sto-tyisyach-atmosfer-ot-korotkogo-elektroimpulsa/

https://habr.com/ru/companies/ruvds/articles/556530/
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 12:51:44 PM
Sergh,' Fluessigkeitsfunken' ,as part from cavitation science and applied ' optical maser = laser' technique ,:

Dr.Frank Fruengel giving use description :

https://patents.google.com/patent/DE1037830B/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/DE1037830B/en)
But I do not find in the patent from your link any connection with sources of coherent optical or radio radiation, which are called lasers or masers.
Only sound waves are mentioned there. Then it could be about a sound laser, SASER (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_amplification_by_stimulated_emission_of_radiation).
I did not find any real mention of the connection between the patent and the saser or somethis as sound gun etc (https://www.google.com/search?q=sound+gun)..
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 04, 2023, 12:57:24 PM
Lev Yutkin's electrohydraulic kick:
Try to do this, nothing will work. Stubborn distilled water does not want to break through from 10 kilovolts.
Yutkin carried several tons of high-voltage capacitors with his device.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 04, 2023, 01:14:36 PM
Sergh thank you very much - fascinating subject.//

//I ordered it to be tried in Baltic sea .
They couldn't  conform  if there  was  "amplification"//
but I was told that  for an eye it look shockingly unexplained.
//but effect at sea is many times stronger or just look stronger many times.
I just woke up . Thank You for your response  I didn't read  yet your comments. Just got my morning coffee.
Simple explanation of the text from above:
Law of physics  says that there is no way to spend 100% and get in return 156%. But
it is easily done in the water wheel, or  driving on the slope of the hill, or wind mill, or water from the river .
That means we know exactly what force of the nature pays for our  energy for free.
So  the experiment in Trojmiasto  used in the process of disintegration of the load, energy initiated by  the spark
affecting the same way the floating base.
and if we return to video  of  Dr Jaynes
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=852 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=852)
We see energy from the process  much greater than energy delivered.
In language of physics it is:
energy released in the process - energy of losses> energy delivered
So Serh  we need water in the right proportion  for the process to start.
There is something special about Baltic Sea water, or any sea water
It is  much easier  to provide experiment than regular tap water or distilled water   
Next week I'll have  sample of Black Sea water  for tests.
distilled water is not conductive and its dielectric constant is  interesting
https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/do-you-think-that-water-conducts-electricity-if-you-do-then-youre-wrong.html (https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/do-you-think-that-water-conducts-electricity-if-you-do-then-youre-wrong.html)

The salinity of the Black Sea is about 18 ppm,
The salinity of the Azov Sea this figure is only 11
Note: Tsimlyansk hydroelectric complex on the Don, affected Azov Sea salinity.
in comparison :
The Baltic Sea is a low-salinity brackish water body 1 (https://www.marinefinland.fi/en-US/The_Baltic_Sea_now/Water_quality/Salinity).
The salinity varies from 0.7% to 0.9% in the surface layers, depending on the location 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_Sea) 1 (https://www.marinefinland.fi/en-US/The_Baltic_Sea_now/Water_quality/Salinity)
Of course we need to  take to consideration Salinity, temperature and stratification

Conclusion and projection:

-Black Sea  objects as well will likely always have right part of  the DUT acting as a load that would resonate.
-Black Sea  objects as well the bigger the better from  the perspective of a load( that includes internal structure
                     of wiring, dielectrics
and elements manifesting  reactive nature  of L, C, between insulators, )
-Black Sea  objects as well will always have condition of right proportion  proportional to its size
Of course we are talking about safety  of "A to B" and its practical applicability at sea. :)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on October 04, 2023, 01:55:09 PM
But I do not find in the patent from your link any connection with sources of coherent optical or radio radiation, which are called lasers or masers.
Only sound waves are mentioned there. Then it could be about a sound laser, SASER (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_amplification_by_stimulated_emission_of_radiation).
I did not find any real mention of the connection between the patent and the saser or somethis as sound gun etc (https://www.google.com/search?q=sound+gun)..
Saser ,1957 ,comercial ?
( Similar, not same :
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2003/apr/03/research.science1  )

Dr.Fruengels work is partly more as today called

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanism_of_sonoluminescence (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanism_of_sonoluminescence)
R&D to refind !
His institute and work here also mentioned :

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00048-015-0122-3 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00048-015-0122-3)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 04, 2023, 02:04:28 PM
Yes lancaIV sonoluminescence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The big weapon  of  a sea crab.
https://ocean.si.edu/ocean-life/invertebrates/design-beautiful-weapon
https://youtu.be/XC6I8iPiHT8?t=48
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: ramset on October 04, 2023, 02:13:09 PM
Using light pulse for electron research
Nobel Prize in Physics October 3 - 2023

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVI-Ulf5jdI (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVI-Ulf5jdI)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 05, 2023, 08:17:59 AM
Why then does the Yutkin effect not manifest itself in the water Marx generator?
It should big vibration when working. (его должно колбасить не по детски) :D (This is an untranslatable idiom.)
or this exist? I don't know. never did one .
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 06, 2023, 04:57:23 PM
DIY Project: Using a discharge in water to propel a rocket:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE)

Another videos the same autor:

https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@The141335/videos)
The peculiarity is that the discharge gap in the water is initially short-circuited with a thin wire or foil. This is done because it is difficult to achieve breakdown in water at a relatively low voltage. Even at a voltage of 10 kilovolts, breakdown occurs at a distance of less than a millimeter. Dr Jaynes also talks about this problem in the video at Wesley's links. Kolbacict wrote here that he also encountered this problem. This is extremely inconvenient if you have relatively low-voltage capacitors at your disposal. Therefore, a jumper made of a thin conductor is used, which burns out and initiates an arc.
There was such a topic  “explosion of thin wires in water (https://www.google.com/search?q=explosion+of+thin+wires+in+water)”, they also wrote that there was an anomalous release of energy.
I delayed my response due to lack of time.
You gained a lot as an educated responder. https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582685/#msg582685 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582685/#msg582685)
I was under impression that it is  entire team  analyzing, composing, editing your text.
Percentage wise it is not impossible but rare and uncommon  to an average fellows from Russia like ~100ppm.
If so, - Far  Eastern guys are really in fear.
If not - then  this is  the best  compliment  I could compose to you so far.
Keep it this way.
_________________________________________________

I'll try to use appropriate format for explanation:
In regards to https://youtu.be/x8SKce1OneE?t=186 (https://youtu.be/x8SKce1OneE?t=186)
K2CO3 - used to make   explosives, fertilizers, a pH regulator.
Potassium Carbonate,  is soluble in water used in video instead of aluminum foil as a fuse.
shows much grater performance up to 43m.
So in case of Black Sea the need for a man made fuse is eliminated.( as shown in the video)
-applies to Azov Sea with some difficulty - its salinity is  only 11ppm.

Black Sea salinity is  18 ppm,- translated to conductivity must include temperature variation.
global average ocean salinity = 3.5%. (Every kilogram of seawater has approximately 35 gr.)
Surface conductivity  is here: https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40623-017-0739-7 (https://earth-planets-space.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s40623-017-0739-7)
- important mainly  from "A  to B" stand point. Of course Brewster Angle and frequency used is not a problem.
We do not know K2CO3 proportions used in the video, but it correlates with 
mentioned gain (manifested in the form of rapid reaction) - that is much stronger than with use of aluminum foil.\ as a fuse.
- Very interesting and I may comment on it much  more .

Strong bonds /weak bonds are explained here: http://chemsite.lsrhs.net/chemkinetics/strong (http://chemsite.lsrhs.net/chemkinetics/strongandweakoverview.html#:~:text=Strong%20and%20Weak%20Bond%20Overview%201%20There%20are,a%20covalent%20bond%20or%20an%20ionic%20bond.%20)
Hydrogen  bond is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond)
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Bond strength Hydrogen bonds can vary in strength from weak (1–2 kJ/mol) to strong (161.5 kJ/mol
Quote
stronger than a van der Waals interaction (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force), and weaker than fully covalent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond) or ionic bonds (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionic_bond)
but its nature is electrostatic.

I'm not sure how accurate is N.Graneau investigation  but practical  experience in any case (e.g. video of  Dr Jaynes
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=852 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=852) , other videos and  articles  stands for the reality of the effect.
I'm not sure if you are questioning the magnitude of the process but that  lies strictly in the range/brackets of given application.


I'm sorry if I didn't address all of your questions and concerns.
Lack of time.  But yes all of the bad guys representing regime formed out there will not be served.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: seychelles on October 07, 2023, 11:01:18 AM
THIS IS WHAT I GET FROM THE KAPA CIRCUIT. IT WORKS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF A VENTURI AS AS PER ILLUSTRATION.
BUT THE ELECTRICAL VENTURI HAS TO BE PLACED DIRECTLY FROM THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD AND BE AS A PULL NOT
PUSH SITUATION. THE MIDDLE IS CONNECTED TO THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD THE OUTPUT TO THE LOAD DIRECTLY AND THE MAIN INPUT TO THE APPROPRIATE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 09, 2023, 05:09:54 AM
on the subject   discussed for the past few pages now:
Dr Janes.
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=732 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=732)

Quote
This paper reports the first experimental results in which the kinetic energy of cold fog, generated
in a water arc plasma, exceeds the electrical energy supplied to form and maintain the arc.
The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
\cambridge.org\arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy\ (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/abs/arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy/C04579576552F5E2FBA3F8333E2F4DF2)

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The 90-year history of unusually strong water arc explosions is reviewed.
Experimental observations leave little doubt that internal water energy is being liberated by the
sudden electrodynamic conversion of about one-third of the water to dense fog.

High-speed photography reveals that the fog expels itself from the water at supersonic velocities.
The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to fog must be the source of the explosion energy
\cambridge.org\arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy\ (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/abs/arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy/C04579576552F5E2FBA3F8333E2F4DF2)



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The strengths of the impulses scaled proportionally to the electrodynamic action integral.
For an arbitrarily chosen current pulse shape and magnitude,
the plasma explosion in SALTWATER is much more powerful than the action of a railgun.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0375960186901684
for comparison to rail gun used in  military:
Quote
Rail guns could fire projectiles to intercept the incoming missiles.
Some scientists argue that rail guns could also protect Earth from rogue asteroids, by
firing high-velocity projectiles from orbit.
Upon impact, the projectiles would either destroy the incoming asteroid or change its trajectory.
\projectiles%20to%20intercept%20the,destroy (https://science.howstuffworks.com/rail-gun3.htm#:~:text=Rail%20guns%20could%20fire%20projectiles%20to%20intercept%20the,destroy%20the%20incoming%20asteroid%20or%20change%20its%20trajectory.)
conclusion:
Energy  released "1 drop of water  in  the right proportion" is stronger (-proportionally!) than the rail gun energy (-proportionally!)

Water explosions were created by discharging a high-voltage capacitor bank through 3-8 mL of water.
The explosions’ energies were measured by using them to launch a projectile into the air and
extrapolating the explosion’s average velocity from the height to which the projectile ascended.
It was found that water explosions do in fact release energy and can have efficiencies of greater than unity;
the energy released during the explosions is likely due to the difference between the heat capacities of bulk water and fog.
These results allude to the possibility of harnessing water explosions to perform useful work.
Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown (http://tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Leavitt%20-%20Do%20water%20arc%20explosions%20release%20internal%20water%20energy%20-%202013.pdf)

original article was  published  in journal of very much prominent organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution_of_Electrical_Engineers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institution_of_Electrical_Engineers)
Article title:
THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS
N. Graneau _Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau Explosions (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)


Note:
greater than unity; means energy  delivered to the system + energy released in the process is >> than energy  delivered to the system
Analogy: energy used to open the  valve  on the water pipe where water comes from the river.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on October 09, 2023, 02:13:42 PM
This fog is HHO or in other words : water molecule isomer which is gaseus at normal temperature, no secret except the method of conversion
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 10, 2023, 09:42:19 AM
conclusion:
Energy  released "1 drop of water  in  the right proportion" is stronger (-proportionally!) than the rail gun energy (-proportionally!)

It was found that water explosions do in fact release energy and can have efficiencies of greater than unity;

Wesley, I'm skeptical about this.

If water could explode, then during the first test atomic explosion in the ocean, the energy of all the water would turn our planet into interstellar dust.

  In your videos, people use capacitors that are too large, and they add water as a filler substance. For example, in a vacuum the discharge is not so strong due to the fact that there is nothing to evaporate and nothing to create big pressure after discharge.
High current water arcs as described in the materials.
Is absolute current important?
There is such a thing as "current density":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_density

If you take a nanoneedle, then the “High Current” on it will be from 1 ampere of the absolute value of the current.


To the entire community:

When you think about overunity, you need to imagine what the moment will look like when overunity is achieved.

What will happen? Why energy can't increase indefinitely? What is the reason why a chain reaction does not begin, involving an increasing amount of energy in the process?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on October 10, 2023, 10:09:14 AM
Wesley, I'm skeptical about this.

If water could explode, then during the first test atomic explosion in the ocean, the energy of all the water would turn our planet into interstellar dust.

  In your videos, people use capacitors that are too large, and they add water as a filler substance. For example, in a vacuum the discharge is not so strong due to the fact that there is nothing to evaporate and nothing to create big pressure after discharge.

To the entire community:

When you think about overunity, you need to imagine what the moment will look like when overunity is achieved.

What will happen? Why energy can't increase indefinitely? What is the reason why a chain reaction does not begin, involving an increasing amount of energy in the process?

In Your thinking model we have to differ between (nearly) un/-limited space and un/-limited time !
For example :    http://www.spacetoday.org/Questions/StarlightAge.html (http://www.spacetoday.org/Questions/StarlightAge.html)

' ...Themost distant objects seen from Earth are quasars, Telescopes are required to view them. They are 10-15 billion lightyears away. Their light takes 10-15 billion years to reach Earth, so their light is 10-15 billion years old. ....'

Now far to near compression and (light) years to Femto-sec and concentrated :

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_pressure)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shock_wave

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 10, 2023, 01:45:18 PM
' ...Themost distant objects seen from Earth are quasars, Telescopes are required to view them. They are 10-15 billion lightyears away. Their light takes 10-15 billion years to reach Earth, so their light is 10-15 billion years old. ....'
Regarding the lifetime of light, it is strange, but a photon has a zero lifetime. 10-15 billion years is zero for light:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zspu7ziA8Y
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on October 10, 2023, 02:17:24 PM
This opens the question for and by comparison ,remembering ' wormhole' :
https://www.britannica.com/science/wormhole (https://www.britannica.com/science/wormhole)

https://quantumphysicslady.org/what-is-the-difference-between-an-electron-and-a-photon/ (https://quantumphysicslady.org/what-is-the-difference-between-an-electron-and-a-photon/)
        mass and ' anti-' mass    time and ' anti-'time ( Hasenoehrl-Einstein e= mc² /  N.Tesla e= tc² )

Photon to electron conversion
https://news.mit.edu/2013/photon-to-electron-conversion-0418
Particle

electron and anti-electron/positron

-Wave 

wave and " (pseudo)anti" !?-wave

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&sca_esv=572205757&q=anti-wave+physics+&oq=anti-wave+physics+&aqs=heirloom-srp (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&sca_esv=572205757&q=anti-wave+physics+&oq=anti-wave+physics+&aqs=heirloom-srp)..


-Dualism

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180809-we-will-ever-be-able-to-freeze-time (https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20180809-we-will-ever-be-able-to-freeze-time)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 10, 2023, 03:41:04 PM

I Just  woke up.
Sergh, lancaIV, Willy, forest - My response  in more accurate form may come later.
--------------------------------------------------------------
We have:
Practical Test 
- at science level:
   with use of single process only  provided by  Dr Janes,  Dr  N.Graneau, and others
   https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770)
   https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=844 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=844) https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=844 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=844) Dr Janes used only ~270V
   single impulse from capacitor.
   But: The higher is the potential The lower becomes the current when compared to
           "equal given power level." of a low voltage impulse with high current.
            That can be a millisecond impulse of 20kV, where current is many levels much lower to cause
            Dr Janes effect.**

- amateur experimenters also from  this forum:
  https://youtu.be/Dx7lm0giTDs?t=329 (https://youtu.be/Dx7lm0giTDs?t=329)  Tommey Red
  https://youtu.be/RnXgIHwI2_k?t=26 (https://youtu.be/RnXgIHwI2_k?t=26)   TinselKoala
  This is especially important  as an independent test - Tommey is not in favor with me personally.
amateur experimenters other than  from  this forum:
   https://youtu.be/x8SKce1OneE?t=186 (https://youtu.be/x8SKce1OneE?t=186) * 47m high  flying rocket  as a result of the process.


-Practical Test   using  above process with addition of  "A to B"
- https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676)
 
Quote
Resonating Load  DUT disintegrated quite rapidly ,along with entire floating test base
  as result of the process involving H2O in the right proportion.

  Tests in Trojmiasto - merge  of these two independent processes was convincing.
__________________________________________________________________________

Summary:
At  anecdotal  level https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i67E48OV0&t=87s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i67E48OV0&t=87s)
At  science level  -Practical Test  conformed  phenomena in question.
At  amateur research level -Practical Test  conformed  phenomena in question.
At  amateur-amateur level -Practical Test  conformed  phenomena in question.
In my comments  I published  just  ~1% of the data collected  by me .
Process  sequence mentioned :
"A to B"   tested ~5km.
- The link between A and B is dynamic.
  It means the resonating load at DUT B  is immediately seen
  by  DUT A.  picture : https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192806/ (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192806/)
was taken from explanation: https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582214/#msg582214 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582214/#msg582214)
- The quality  of A to B is quite significantly visible at DUT A :
  We can compare it with  person "A" walking
   on the road rapidly falling with  one leg into the  hole in the pavement.
  The effect  is immediately "seen"
 -  Mentioned by me  in an earlier comment was also: that DUT B acting as  receiver  needs a load .
    Note:  DUT B acting as Rx is seen at DUT A acting as Tx but  when load at DUT B is established( connected), the power drown
     from DUT A   is rapidly seen - significantly seen.

- Now the system is ready to  launch the  impulse from DUT A .
   That, if condensed, can reach a level of kW/ms  or much, much more at /us/ps/ns from a single battery
    connected to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx_generator) **
    that is than connected to DUT A - similar to a radar forming signal.
    - So from that  perspective the DC impulse is not  very much recommended as we do not  want  AC with DC bias
       where  the slope of  the leading edge and falling edge may become significantly important
       and impulse would need to be send as  a modulating signal  instead of
       AC that acts as unmodulated carrier increasing only in   voltage level.
       Much more  efficient is   use of AC impulse from  a high ratio primary to secondary transformer.
   Starting from  that very point  the phenomena described by
   Dr James , Dr  N.Graneau are in  motion and a second process can be started.
    Most likely the load will not hold the power  of the impulse leading to
    rapid, often violent manifestation of its impact possibly affecting entire  DUT B

Explanation in form of analogy
- the nature of dynamic link between DUT A and DUT B:
    You are the  "DUT A" in the dark room and than you feel that someone start to hold gently your hand (-that someone is  "DUT B")
     and all of the sudden your hand  is pulled  much stronger (by that "DUT B") because the load  started to pull DUT B that is pulling you.
     That "DUT B"  is in need of resistive load or  resonating load . But  resistive load dissipates impulse energy into its resistance vs the
      reactive in nature load made from LC dissipates energy into its impedance.
     To differentiate between the two there is a need to change slightly the frequency and if wee see no change to the  load value - its nature is resistive.
    If we see the impedance of the load changing than this is a load of reactive nature. - that what is expected.
    and now look again at picture here: https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192806/ (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192806/)
     The only difference in distance  between A and B is that the line of sight between Yalta Crimea → and Novorossiysk, Russia is 180miles
__________________________________________________________________________


Practical Conclusion:
DUT  B  will always have  conditions  to satisfy load conditions when at  sea.
- eg. Black Sea region of  southwestern port of Novorossiysk in Russia, the port of Feodosia — still in Crimea, but much further east.
The larger the physical size of  the DUT B the better.
The need of aluminum fuse  is eliminated in salt water leading to ~47m of an object fly performance
as shown in   video marked with *
and statement  from comment quote  about   water plasma beavior in pink color
in the link : https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770)
Experiment in Trojmiasto also pointed  the same .
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192984/ (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/dlattach/attach/192984/)
So the overall conclusion is that  water  with high  salinity leads to  much higher  performance 
of the process  involving load response.


What was not explained here:

1. Process of scanning for the load at  DUT B initiated by DUT A.
2. I didn't  describe why the resonating nature of LC parameters of the load  will likely always exist at DUT B.
3. I didn't  describe   how to differentiate between targeted DUT B and other objects at sea,  - that can
be compared to the  omnidirectional pattern  of the  vertical dipole  vs vertically polarized Yagi.
opinion expressed is my own. :)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 10, 2023, 05:58:24 PM
while I had reading your posts it came in my mind.If connected the third electrode to the drop of water. And apply a short, weak but high-voltage pulse to it. Then a primary breakdown from the drop to the power electrodes would occur. As happens with natural lightning, a primary leader takes place. Then we won't need an easily burned jumper.  :P
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 11, 2023, 01:19:41 AM
while I had reading your posts it came in my mind. If connected the third electrode to the drop of water. And apply a short, weak but high-voltage pulse to it. Then a primary breakdown from the drop to the power electrodes would occur. As happens with natural lightning, a primary leader takes place. Then we won't need an easily burned jumper.  :P
Watch the Russian video  marked with *. ( much  stronger response than with the fuse)
You do not need  fuse if  you use salted water or you are  at  Black Sea - that is actually not far from you,
However DUT A is recommended to be at the coast, with its base possibly still immersed in  Black Sea water  at least for purpose of grounding.
and for the purpose of  Brewster  angle - the mandatory  for A to B energy transfer.
I also added  sentence to the  previous comment:
Quote
3. I didn't  describe   how to differentiate between targeted DUT B and other objects at sea,  - that can
be compared to the  omnidirectional pattern  of the  vertical dipole  vs vertically polarized Yagi.
I also added  a lot more so it is good to read it again.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: seychelles on October 11, 2023, 07:24:42 AM
JUST BE HAPPY. FOR FREE.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 11, 2023, 08:32:43 AM
THIS IS WHAT I GET FROM THE KAPA CIRCUIT. IT WORKS ON THE PRINCIPLE OF A VENTURI AS AS PER ILLUSTRATION.
BUT THE ELECTRICAL VENTURI HAS TO BE PLACED DIRECTLY FROM THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD AND BE AS A PULL NOT
PUSH SITUATION. THE MIDDLE IS CONNECTED TO THE EARTH CONDUCTOR ROD THE OUTPUT TO THE LOAD DIRECTLY AND THE MAIN INPUT TO THE APPROPRIATE ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT.
I do not understand nothing how should be like electrical analog of Venturi's tube.
What should it look like? :o

JUST BE HAPPY. FOR FREE.
https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,743.msg4781.html#msg4781 (https://mazeto.net/index.php/topic,743.msg4781.html#msg4781)

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 11, 2023, 10:54:17 AM
Wesley, do you remember I gave a link to the American inventors of the water motor? Where a thin stream of water from a nozzle under very high pressure of about 1000 atmospheres was broken against a specially shaped barrier? Because of this, the water became very hot and evaporated. They had a working prototype of the motor on video. I think this motor could use a similar process. Have you tried to contact them?
I meant this project:

Cavitation Energy Systems Technical Presentation:
(about salt water, sodium chloride, at 15:50)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji0GAt-q2EM)

4 Impact Chambers Running V-2 Steam Engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cmgMjJeD1M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cmgMjJeD1M)

Single Impact Chamber Running 113 cubic inch V-2 Steam Engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzx1ss8g0X4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzx1ss8g0X4)

Continuous Superheat Steam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fin8cnX3xY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fin8cnX3xY)

High Temperature Cavitation Explosions - Slow Motion

This is a slow motion video  image of high temperature cavitation induced thermolysis of water. The heated water is injected under high pressure into our impact chamber. Each injection is approximately .275 ml - slightly greater than a drop. This water is saturated with cavitation bubbles as it exits the injector orifice at high velocity. Upon collision with the impact chamber walls the bubbles are crushed releasing intense conductive and radiative heat. This intense heat, greater than  3000C, causes thermolytic separation of the water into its constituent parts. Notice the shock wave towards the end of the vapor ejection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdfrXnRhP0o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdfrXnRhP0o)

Other videos mixed with random content:
https://www.youtube.com/@billmee1611/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@billmee1611/videos)

The home site with link to patents:
http://cavitationenergysystems.com/ (http://cavitationenergysystems.com/)
Another chanel CES Project:
https://www.youtube.com/@matteocucchiara/videos (https://www.youtube.com/@matteocucchiara/videos)

CES double shot one bent pipe:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AIaCLZlGI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76AIaCLZlGI)

from comment:

Quote
The output of energy would sustain the 300F heater device on metal impact object. but other devices don't need a heater but University cut off funding after demonstrating free energy generation.
:(
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 11, 2023, 11:39:53 AM
We have water jet cutting at our factory.
There, water comes out of the nozzle under pressure of up to five thousand atmospheres.
Where should this jet of water be directed so that it heats up to 300 or 3000 degrees ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 11, 2023, 02:30:43 PM
Yes, I have seen machines that can cut plastic and metal with a jet of water with a pressure of several thousand atmospheres.

I also don’t understand why, unlike the CES, during the operation of such a machine a lot of steam is not generated and there is no strong heating.

In the patent and generally on the website, the authors of the CES specifically describe the design of a impact chambers.

Maybe this chamber is the secret of the design?

In addition, the video shows that thermal insulation is used? For what? It seems that a pre-heater is needed inside, which heats the chamber to 300 degrees Fahrenheit, which is about 150 degrees Celsius. But as in the last link in the author’s comment, it seems that the installation can work without preheating. against which a stream of water breaks.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 11, 2023, 06:32:07 PM
THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS
N. Graneau _Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau Explosions (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)


maybe it was nitroglycerin,and not water? :)
This is just my guess. The substances are similar in appearance. We do not know.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 12, 2023, 11:38:04 AM
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.|
Quote
The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 12, 2023, 01:07:42 PM
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.
Quote
The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770)
Wesley
Ok, I also made such a device, ultrasonic humidifier, random video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM4kbIdqPgA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM4kbIdqPgA)

Factory-made ultrasonic humidifiers are also sold everywhere.
They also produce cold fog from ordinary water.
There is fog, but there is no free energy.
What is missing?
If I put a spark through this cold fog, it will explode?  ??? It's just water, not a gasoline fog:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFqiuv_XSM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WFqiuv_XSM)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on October 12, 2023, 03:35:33 PM
I do not have  much time now to respond with the longer comment, but:
-The  essence is that  in  all of scientific testing  water reminded cold.
No superheated  water was there.|https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582770/#msg582770)

Wesley


Once upon a time there was Phillipino inventor on youtube who showed  drop of water explosion using something which resemble big coil. He also showed water burn into a flame
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: lancaIV on October 12, 2023, 03:39:50 PM
forest,meaning  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dingel (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Dingel)  ?
Not fillipino,bolivian :

https://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=926
In 1977, Mr. Pacheco adapted his generator to provide a complete energy system for his neighbor’s new home. A demonstration of the home generator was witnessed by the New Jersey Commissioner of Energy and staff, but again nothing happened.
In 1979, for 5 consecutive days, the generator was demonstrated for the public generating on demand hydrogen, electric and thermal energy as its output at the International Inventors Exposition. He received at this time, a plaque and award presented by a Commissioner of the Patent Department. At the Massachusetts headquarters of the Inventor’s Club of America, he received 2 consecutive Hall of Fame Awards for 1978 and 1979.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on October 13, 2023, 09:03:35 PM
lancaIV


No, not Daniel Dingel, but his invention may be related. If I only remember which year it was when video appeared on youtube... HE used big fat coil and a metalic chamber , maybe it was high frequency radio waves. Experiment was marwellous , ordinary water droplet converted into blast or into flame depending on the switch position on device
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 14, 2023, 01:39:37 PM
Mouse's answer about that,what could was inside grenade kapanadze. :)
http://geoisotopes.com/ru/boron-ru (http://geoisotopes.com/ru/boron-ru)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 15, 2023, 08:39:27 PM
article title:
Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy PETER GRANEAU," NEAL GRANEAU,# GEORGE HATHAWAY$ and RICHARD L. HULL
Department of Engineering Science, University of Oxford,

Try to download it  here:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy)
this along with previous articles stands for
experiment in Trojmiasto where two technologies  the A to B energy transfer and load disintegration  using arc, were merged.
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676)
There was a suggestion of  applying this  experience  in Black Sea and possibly Azov Sea
- stressing  that the larger is the load size the easier is to  get expected results.
This technique  can't be applied to underwater objects  serving as a load, like these implanted since 2022 by Russians
in large number creating now high  level of hazard/danger to the sea civilian traffic there.
-However, underwater arc explosion can be covered by me too.


Quote
water vapour -invisible in air, // left him with no explanation of the white
explosion cloud. In his early high-voltage laboratory at Harvard University,
Trowbridge discovered another effect that has a bearing on fog explosions. He
stretched a sheet of paper along the path of his sparks of more than 50 cm
length, and found that at every corner and forking of the lightning-like
discharge, holes were punched through the paper
Quote

without any burning or charring.[
/quote]
Quote
During the Second World War, Frungel (1948) measured the unusual
strength of water arc explosions. He concluded that the explosions
Quote
were not
caused by heat and steam
, and admitted freely that he was unable to explain
the phenomenon.


opinion  expressed is my own.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 16, 2023, 03:00:32 PM
Hello Wesley!

I did not find possibility to download Frungel books in English without paying.
Found it in Russian, you can read Russian, right?

Frungel Frank Pulse technology. Generation and application of capacitor discharges. 1965
Translation from German.


Link to download .djvu file:

https://cv01.studmed.ru/download/edbd9f462e9/7a2a018/djvu/7a2a018 (https://cv01.studmed.ru/download/edbd9f462e9/7a2a018/djvu/7a2a018)

The book is very interesting for the practical development of devices using discharge gaps. It also says about electrical discharges in water. Pages 272 - 283.
Alas, in this book Frungel estimates the effect of discharges below 1.

But the website about LENR mentions some special discharges in water, which Frungel wrote somewhere that they are more effective:


Quote
1948: Prof. Frank Früngel
Prof. Frank Früngel

    Er hat beobachtet, dass bei einem abgerissenen Lichtbogen in Wasser eine anomale Kraft auftritt.
    He observed that an abnormal force occurs when an arc is broken in water.
    Er stellte fest, dass diese Kraft nicht durch Hitze oder Dampf verursacht wurde.   
    He found that this power was not caused by heat or steam.
   
    Er räumte ein, nicht in der Lage gewesen zu sein, das Phänomen zu erklären.
    He admitted that he had been unable to explain the phenomenon.
    Später hat er die Entdeckung angewandt, um unter Wasser eine Impuls-Echolot-Sondierung durchzuführen, um so den Meeresboden zu kartieren.
    He later applied the discovery to conduct pulsed sonar sounding underwater to map the ocean floor.
    Seine Entdeckung fand zudem auch ihre Anwendung in der elektrohydraulischen Metallumformung.
    His discovery also found application in electro-hydraulic metal forming.

https://lenr.wiki/index.php/Abriss_der_Geschichte_von_LENR_und_den_kondensierten_Plasmoiden#1948:_Prof._Frank_Fr.C3.BCngel (https://lenr.wiki/index.php/Abriss_der_Geschichte_von_LENR_und_den_kondensierten_Plasmoiden#1948:_Prof._Frank_Fr.C3.BCngel)

 I couldn't find the title of this book or source. Can anyone provide the link or title of this book by Frungel?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 16, 2023, 03:54:26 PM
Hello Wesley!
I did not find possibility to download Frungel books in English without paying.
Found it in Russian, you can read Russian, right?
I couldn't find the title of this book or source. Can anyone provide the link or title of this book by Frungel?
I was about to go to work in the lab.
So what you need to do is :
Switch your VPN to  USA  e.g. NY.
Than go to  link :
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy)

Than on that page press:
"Download full text PDF"
you may also look for the link by title:
Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy PETER GRANEAU," NEAL GRANEAU,# GEORGE HATHAWAY$ and RICHARD L. HULL
J. Plasma Physics (2000), vol. 63, part 2, pp. 115–128. Printed in the United Kingdom # 2000 Cambridge University Press 115 Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy PETER GRANEAU," NEAL GRANEAU,# GEORGE HATHAWAY$ and RICHARD L. HULL% " Centre for Electromagnetics Research, Northeastern University, Boston, MA 02115, USA #Department of Engineering Science, University of Oxford, Oxford OX1 3PJ, UK $ Hathaway Consulting Services, 39 Kendal Avenue, Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5R 1L5 %Tesla Coil Builders of Richmond, 7103 Hermitage Road, Richmond, VA 23228, USA (Received 11 December 1998 and in revised form 5 August 1999)
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This paper reports the first experimental results in which the kinetic energy of cold fog, generated in a water arc plasma, exceeds the electrical energy supplied to form and maintain the arc. The cold fog explosion is produced by breaking down a small quantity of liquid water

_________________
Other  helpful links  in their full form:
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/abs/arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy/C04579576552F5E2FBA3F8333E2F4DF2 (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-plasma-physics/article/abs/arcliberated-chemical-energy-exceeds-electrical-input-energy/C04579576552F5E2FBA3F8333E2F4DF2)
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The 90-year history of unusually strong water arc explosions is reviewed. Experimental observations leave little doubt that internal water energy is being liberated by the sudden electrodynamic conversion of about one-third of the water to dense fog. High-speed photography reveals that the fog expels itself from the water at supersonic velocities. The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to fog must be the source of the explosion energy.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0379711217302011 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0379711217302011)
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There can be two aspects to this: the shock and sound waves propagated from the expanding arc channel, and the bulk pressurization of the enclosure, if arcing is taking place within a closed volume
Note: the experiment of Dr. Janes
https://youtu.be/YyBahrxRxNw?t=395 (https://youtu.be/YyBahrxRxNw?t=395)
https://youtu.be/-aGecOw5UKQ?t=197 (https://youtu.be/-aGecOw5UKQ?t=197)
https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=925 (https://youtu.be/qkLGSCXOxi8?t=925)
is conducted without an enclosure.


https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0375960186901684 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0375960186901684)
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The most powerful explosion so far observed imparted an impulse of 7 N s to a metallic projectile of 1.6 kg mass. The strengths of the impulses scaled proportionally to the electrodynamic action integral. For an arbitrarily chosen current pulse shape and magnitude, the plasma explosion in saltwater is much more powerful than the action of a railgun.
Here we have the two statements  "more powerful" and  "seawater."
railgun  is explained here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railgun)

Video standing for superiority of  saltwater over aluminum fuse is here:
~Twice more strong effect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE&t=186s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8SKce1OneE&t=186s)

-some explanation but not exactly related is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_rocket (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_rocket)
-Not related but interesting: https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2020/t_6.html (https://spinoff.nasa.gov/Spinoff2020/t_6.html)
Application in Trojmiasto  used only saltwater.
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg582676/#msg582676)

http://tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Leavitt%20-%20Do%20water%20arc%20explosions%20release%20internal%20water%20energy%20-%202013.pdf (http://tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Leavitt%20-%20Do%20water%20arc%20explosions%20release%20internal%20water%20energy%20-%202013.pdf)
“Do water arc explosions release internal water energy? If so, what is the source of the released energy?” Tucker Leavitt Senior Project Advisor: Steve Smith


http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf (http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/Electrolysis_Water_Arc_and_Dielectric_Breakdown/Graneau%20-%20The%20Anomalous%20strength%20of%20Cold%20Fog%20Explosions%20caused%20by%20High%20Current%20Water%20Arcs%20-%201998.pdf)
THE ANOMALOUS STRENGTH OF COLD FOG EXPLOSIONS CAUSED BY HIGH CURRENT WATER ARCS N. Graneau
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bonding  vibrational force constant : 24 and 32meV.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 17, 2023, 09:04:48 AM
Hello Wesley!
  I think you misunderstood me. I previously read and analyzed this article:

P.Graneau, N.Graneau "Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy" (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy)

 The article contains a lot of extraneous information about the shape of the discharge, the amazing holes that the water discharge creates in aluminium, and other  visual effects. But the article does not calculate efficiency, there is no real determination of how much energy is consumed and how much is produced.

Therefore, I need additional materials referred to by the authors of the article:

P.Graneau, N.Graneau "Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy"
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During the Second World War, Frungel (1948) measured the unusual strength of water arc explosions. He concluded that the explosions were not caused by heat and steam, and admitted freely that he was unable to explain the phenomenon.
Soon after Frungel’s publications, water arc explosions found applications in electrohydraulic metal forming (Gilchrist & Crossland 1967) and underwater pulse echo sounding (Frungel 1965).

References
...
Frungel, F. 1948 Optik 3, 125.
Frungel, F. 1965 High Speed Pulse Technology, Vol. 2. Academic Press, New York.
...
References to Frungel seemed to be found in the themes of Edwin V Gray:

Patent US3890548A Pulsed capacitor discharge electric engine (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3890548A/en?oq=US3890548A)

At the beginning of the patent we see:

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  OTHER PUBLICATIONS
 Frungel, High Speed Pulse Technology, Academic Press Inc., 1965, pp. 140-148.

 Of course, his old videos with tossing up objects from discharges correspond to the themes of Frungel’s or Graneau's works.
EV Gray 1986 Promotional Video - Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1VK0UvTb-M)

EV Gray 1986 Promotional Video - Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnL4BL_YyPE)

EV Gray 1986 Promotional Video - Part 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2GaAV92eQ0)

Edwin Gray's patent also contains something similar to a spark gap.

Efficient power supply suitable for inductive loads (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4595975A/en?oq=US4595975A)

Efficient electrical conversion switching tube suitable for inductive loads (https://patents.google.com/patent/US4661747A/en?oq=US4661747A)

Let's get acquainted with the books of this Frungel together, maybe there will be answers to our questions.
I found a scan of a large, thick book by Frungel about spark gaps and discharges in water, but in Russian, translated from German:

Pages 272 - 283 Frungel Frank Pulse technology. Generation and application of capacitor discharges. 1965
 (https://cv01.studmed.ru/download/edbd9f462e9/7a2a018/djvu/7a2a018)
But in this book, Frungel nowhere declares obtaining overunity or free energy, or efficiency above 0.7.

Maybe you or someone from the community can tell us links to download Frungel books in English or German or another?

Frungel
, High Speed Pulse Technology, Academic Press Inc., 1965, pp. 140-148.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 17, 2023, 11:09:26 AM
Mouse's answer about that,what could was inside grenade kapanadze.
http://geoisotopes.com/ru/boron-ru (http://geoisotopes.com/ru/boron-ru)

It's good if so. If it is related to the "Borenium Salt", which is indicated in the picture as being inside the Kapanadze coil.
But what next? Why is some boron salt poured into the coil?
And why is it literally written "Borenium salt"
Isn't it boron salt?

It can be assumed that on the bottle from which this salt was poured, it was literally written “Borenium salt”. But what is it then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boranylium_ions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boranylium_ions)

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... A borenium ion is an inorganic cation In this class of molecules, the electron-deficient boron center
Reactivity and applications

Electrophilic aromatic borylation

Some electrophilic chemicals that are used in advanced organic chemistry.  :-\
It remains unclear whether this salt is poured only on one side, which is somehow illogical, or whether the entire space in which the ferrite rings and “Tesla bifilar coils” are located is covered with it? That is, is this "Borenium salt" one of the main components or an auxiliary component?

If you look closely, the ferrite rings form a pyramid. The diameter of the rings gradually decreases from left to right.
Why is this necessary? I can assume that some kind of flow must cover the entire surface of the rings and carry away or bring something.
I assume that this diagram is incomplete, some components are missing.  In this form, the circuit cannot work, while creating a ground current of 26 amperes 50 Hz with a meager capacitance relative to the surface.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: hartiberlin on October 17, 2023, 03:52:56 PM
  Yes  and here is my response: "overunity"  is the word and the term.
As a word used by some guy  who found $100 on the street of Chicago is OK.
As a term, "overunity"   conflicts with  laws of  thermodynamics 
as well as "perpetual motion" machines, time travel,  antigravity,  and more  is just,
colliding with  physics laws fantasy, not welcomed, in my part of the forum.
Bottom line is: it is rejected by science.

Wesley
That is not true,you seem to neglect, the greek inventor Zografos , who runs his house on water and some catalyst..
This is a reason to remove you as a moderator.Sorry, but I have told you several times, that you are wrong with this...
Regards, Stefan. (admin)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Kator01 on October 18, 2023, 01:54:14 AM
Sergh,


concerning  Prof.Früngel I found the following document from a german University (english )
which might be of interest here


Commercial Pulsed Power Applications in Germany Markus J. Loeffler (University of Applied Sciences Gelsenkirchen)


https://www.w-hs.de/fileadmin/public/dokumente/erkunden/fachbereiche/FB2_ElaN/FB2_ElaN_ET/Laboratorien/Hochspannungstechnik/Paper-PPT-02-37-PST-02-80.pdf (https://www.w-hs.de/fileadmin/public/dokumente/erkunden/fachbereiche/FB2_ElaN/FB2_ElaN_ET/Laboratorien/Hochspannungstechnik/Paper-PPT-02-37-PST-02-80.pdf)


Mike
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 18, 2023, 08:23:00 AM
Thank you, Kator, for the link. After reading the text from the link, I understood the chronology of the publication of Frungel’s books.

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In 1950, Frank Fruengel founded the company “Impulsphysik F. Fruengel”. In 1960, he published one of the first books about the utilization of capacitor discharges[5], followed in 1965 by the book “High Speed Pulse Technology”[6].
...
[5]F. Früngel: Impulstechnik – Erzeugung und Anwendung von Kondensatorentladungen (Impulse Technology – Generation and Application of Capacitor Discharges). Leipzig. Akademische Verlagsgesellschaft Geest&Portig KG, 1960, 1. Aufl., 573 pages.
[6]Frank B.A. Früngel: High Speed Pulse Technology. 2 Volumes. Academic Press New York, London, Toronto, Sydney, San Francisco. 1965.

ok, then first book I read:
[5]
Frank Fruengel Pulse technology. Generation and application of capacitor discharges. Translated from German to Russian in 1965.
 (https://cv01.studmed.ru/download/edbd9f462e9/7a2a018/djvu/7a2a018)
About the discharges in water on pages 272 - 283. No Free Energy or Overunity declared in this book.


But second Frungel book i can not found to free download.
[6]Frungel, High Speed Pulse Technology, Academic Press Inc., 1965, reference to pp. 140-148 from Edwin V Gray patent US3890548A "Pulsed capacitor discharge electric engine" (https://patents.google.com/patent/US3890548A/en?oq=US3890548A)
or

Frungel, F. 1965 High Speed Pulse Technology, Vol. 2. Academic Press, New York. Reference from the article P.Graneau, N.Graneau "Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy" (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/231781707_Arc-liberated_chemical_energy_exceeds_electrical_input_energy) :

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During the Second World War, Frungel (1948) measured the unusual strength of water arc explosions. He concluded that the explosions were not caused by heat and steam, and admitted freely that he was unable to explain the phenomenon.
Where can I find proof about this from the author, Frank Fruengel? Maybe the second book should have something about overunity discharges in water?If anyone has access to the second book, can you provide quotes from there that would relate to the overunity discharges in water?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dxer_87 on October 18, 2023, 08:41:07 AM
According to was written about the nature of machines. Its only a matter of build from existing parts to put them on move (oscillations, light, heat, pressure, freeze, other chemical reactions). And yes, pressure is a kind of energy.

What we use in nowadays mobile energy solution is mostly the last thing (one use batteries, loaded batteries). Its complicate, not cheap, not ecological except if you have spare acid eneough and poisoned steel lying around...

So this is political.

In the air near to Earth we may collect much energy from air that consists: Electro Waves and Fields, Magnetic Waves and Fields, Cold Electricity, Humidity, Ion Power, Atomic Radiation, Kapanadze, Hendershot or other mysterious coil resonances (like on 140mm or 260mm tube).

Looking closelsy that in some condition used THT devices have overunity that means more output than input if you go through from pin to pin with any antenna, mass (tin or metal constructions), and they work passively, though things like diodes, transistors and solar panels (with 1mom resistors) may be opened to hack the real energy efficiency.

Hope this was informative.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 18, 2023, 12:07:41 PM
100+!!! 100+!!! 101+!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_z-64YiDYM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_z-64YiDYM)
And you, dear one, wind some coils like this and let’s see how it lights up for you. And no hidden battery please!
In the video, comments is disabled, the author called himself "Fakov Fakov". Fake Fakevich?  8) ;D


Search in Google video "Overunity":
https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity&tbm=vid (https://www.google.com/search?q=overunity&tbm=vid)
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About 35,200 results
35,200 overunity devices! All functioning 100%!
Choose what you like and produce it, sell it all over the world!
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 18, 2023, 01:06:10 PM
What today to hear about the announce high temperature superconductor in july ?
Were the assumptions confirmed or not ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 18, 2023, 01:19:04 PM
That is not true,you seem to neglect, the greek inventor Zografos , who runs his house on water and some catalyst..
Regards, Stefan. (admin)
Zografos , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zografos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zografos)
The page  seems - it was removed by Wikipedia?
Please specify  full name of the person  you talking about and his patent number.
Can you  provide Scientifically supported  evidence   or you can't ?
Are there any replications of Zografos today?

Talking about English language.
My comments says:

Quote
As a term, "overunity"   conflicts with  laws of  thermodynamics
// colliding with  physics laws , //
Bottom line is: it is rejected by science.

There is no me in this at all:
-my position is not  expressed here.
It is me quoting the official position  of science.
So you are punishing a person for quoting  someone else's opinion.
I see it as unfair and wrong and discriminative.
Please be  so kind and correct me if you think  I'm wrong.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Kator01 on October 18, 2023, 05:48:24 PM
@Sergh,


I did some deeper research on books by Prof.Früngel ( please note: use "ü" not "ue" while searching)
I use a german search-engine. You can choose categories on the top like


             Web Bilder Produkte Nachrichten Wissenschaft


and notice then the underlined category, so you search focuses in this topic
Here I choosed Wissenschaft  and in the URL =sience appears and you are not lost in the german language :D


https://metager.de/?focus=science


When I put in Frank Früngel, the following list appeared. Its interesting al lot of document are in dthe CERN-Libary


https://metager.de/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=Frank%20Fr%C3%BCngel&focus=science&mgv=99573a41b7c8977ef1241661eb0402f1 (https://metager.de/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=Frank%20Fr%C3%BCngel&focus=science&mgv=99573a41b7c8977ef1241661eb0402f1)


So I guess one needs to enlist in their system to get acess to these document


In the following link there is only a reference to Früngel, maybe that guy had access to more detailled
information


https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/government_information/intelligence_and_espionage/homebrew.military.and.espionage.electronics/servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/_gbpprorg/mil/herf/High_Voltage_Experimenters_Handbook.pdf (https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/government_information/intelligence_and_espionage/homebrew.military.and.espionage.electronics/servv89pn0aj.sn.sourcedns.com/_gbpprorg/mil/herf/High_Voltage_Experimenters_Handbook.pdf)


Up to now I have not found one single book in german language which is strange.
But I am certain I can find more...takes some time


Here in the Technical University of Munich the book is listed as printed version which does not serve your purpose.


Mike
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: r2fpl on October 19, 2023, 04:44:09 PM
All the magician's tricks seem real until you find out the truth about how he did it and that the rabbit was already there. So is the magician a liar? Is it you who can't see what's true?
Zografos has been showing its devices for several years. Why are most of these shows on TV? The same situation was with Bendini, Don Smith, Kapanadze, Meyer, Steven Mark and many others who could be added. They are all dead and cannot defend themselves, but no one has confirmed that any of these devices are real. WHY ?
So you could say that he had nothing that we would call FE or anything else we would call it.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 19, 2023, 06:08:48 PM
In regards to  the subject of overunity.
Unfortunately the term is not recognized by science and we we need to use  wording that  matches the  science recognized formulation.

Backed up by  scientific library related  to COP is explained here:
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It is known that efficiency in air-conditioning system  is >1 at the certain stages.
Quote
The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because instead of just converting work to heat

And of course
I agree that this is true. My opinion is that the article  supporting it  is true.
Rest of the article is available at  the link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance)
For those who want to understand more.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2572-second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken/ (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2572-second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken/)
Here I found the article
second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken but
-This needs to be understood that everything is in its time frame.
So nothing is done  outside of the time frame..
If we exclude time than we end up with nothing.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 22, 2023, 09:47:39 PM

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2572-second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken/ (https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2572-second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken/)
There are cases, where the 2nd law of thermodynamics can be violated and overcome.
Title: second-law-of-thermodynamics-broken but
-This needs to be understood that everything is in its time frame.
So nothing is done  outside of the time frame..
If we exclude time than we end up with nothing.

Some explanation: nothing is done without time frame
-Means time  is always a factor  that can't be excluded.
Similar situation was pointed in Schrödinger's cat thought experiment.
 of quantum superposition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition)
so the common to the two articles  is  that :
Experiments at the atomic scale have been carried out, showing that very small objects may exist as superpositions;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat)
New development in quantum word  makes us  to understand it  better.
Physics is based on models   if  the model is not  perfect and can be replaced with the  new one , till that  happens
we  collect  events in form of paradoxes  that needs to be taken to consideration.
It is my opinion and the  official text from Wikipedia  exactly word to word:
-quote:
Quote
"Maxwell's demon is a thought experiment that would hypothetically violate the second law of thermodynamics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics)
"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_demon)
Wesley.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 24, 2023, 10:01:12 AM
While searching for Frungel's book, I found some mysterious scans on Google books.
Anyone who reads English fluently, please take a look, maybe you will find something valuable. Wesley will probably be interested.

https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946 (https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946)

There seems to be something about free energy at the end of the scans, from page 1946.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 24, 2023, 10:21:13 PM
Part 1
While searching for Frungel's book, I found some mysterious scans on Google books.
Anyone who reads English fluently, please take a look, maybe you will find something valuable. Wesley will probably be interested.
https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946 (https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946)
There seems to be something about free energy at the end of the scans, from page 1946.


According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray)
was born (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Never made any patent other than  his single patent for the therapeutic  device.
I approached his family few years ago.

According to the scan page listed  as :  link https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946 (https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946)
He  build the device powering 20 lightbulbs 150W each.
Then the device was smashed by Feliks Frazer from REA using axe.
and in the same  scan page his son John says about use of sledge hammer.
Claim:
Thomas Henry Moray presented  the device  powered by "unknown"  natural source of energy called by him "radiant energy".
According to Wikipedia          the device used   "cold cathode" vacuum tube- exact wording:
Quote
not heated  vacuum tube.
According to the scan page the device used         cathode ray tube        - exact wording.
Thomas_Henry_Moray never rebuild the device.
scan page says that Felix Frazer was acting on behave of government and/or Russian communists.

Characteristic of the  device (scan page) :
Device was build by Thomas_Henry_Moray in 1906. ( questionable statement* )
but it also says that it took him 20 years to build it. so it  was around 1926.
later on the same  scan page  says that in 1936 he build 55lb device obtaining 50kW in average.
The device used:
specially designed not heated  vacuum tube -ray cathode tube
note: The earliest version of the CRT was known as the "Braun tube", invented by the German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1897.
The device was powering 20 lightbulbs 150W each.
The device   used an  antenna and solid state  electronic circuitry(1908 !!) ( questionable statement* )
note: if  coil  and resonance circuit is considered  -solid state than It looks like **( look at two asterisk)
The device  was working on land, in air, and under water. ( questionable statement* )
note:  if it   was working on land, in air, and      on water it would be similar to
-my own energy extraction  from Schumann waveguide.**
In video: https://youtu.be/sHTCZu8OZtI?t=228 (https://youtu.be/sHTCZu8OZtI?t=228)
Rediscovery of Lost Secret of Moray Radiant Energy

Cons: mentioned in video  cold fusion is rejected by science.
"Radiant energy"  here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy)
 is  likely not the same as "Radiant energy" of Thomas_Henry_Moray
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on October 25, 2023, 09:05:23 AM
I was looking for a patent   https://patents.google.com/patent/US2460707A/en     (I was interested in the therapeutic aspect)..

A google search turned up another patent, for atmospheric electricity: https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en , perhaps a coincidence, perhaps a direction!

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Thomas Henry Moray (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah. He received application for US patent 2,460,707 in February 1949, after a process of 17 years in discussions with the patent office. The title of the patent is "Electrotherapeutic Device", and although radiotherapy is mentioned, no details are given.
During the 1920s, Thomas Henry Moray worked in the emerging field of radio. After hundreds of experiments designed to improve radio reception, Moray claimed to have discovered a source of energy transmission apparently available everywhere. Using advanced ideas in solid state detectors, he developed a power source which he claimed to produce 50,000 watts of a cold form of electricity[clarification needed]. By the early 1930s, dozens of people had reportedly witnessed demonstrations of this technology[citation needed].
In 1944 Moray was paid $25 a day by the rural electrification administration to perfect his system of drawing electrical energy out of the atmosphere.[1] He claimed his invention produced electricity with no exterior input of energy.
The primary component of the device was a non-heated vacuum tube. At the time most vacuum tubes had heaters built inside. The patent office refused to grant his patent, initially, because they claimed that any vacuum tube without a heater would not work. He was never granted a patent for his power supply device. He did have other inventions and was able to obtain a patent application for one of those, the Electrotherapeutic device.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 25, 2023, 11:21:22 AM
I was looking for a patent   https://patents.google.com/patent/US2460707A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US2460707A/en)     (I was interested in the therapeutic aspect)..

Well, well, exposure to x-rays is harmful to health.
Probably Morray needed to somehow patent his vacuum tubes so as not to declare overunity.
The vacuum by Morray s very relative, it seems that these tubes are mainly gas-discharge, except for those parts that are for emitting X-rays. This Morray "vacuum" is simply reduced pressure. This Moray tubes is something similar to high-power thyratrons (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygg04-DIXj4) or another gas-discharge tubes.
In general, they wrote somewhere about Morray that he spent a very long time looking for some kind of “Luminous Stones”:

https://www.nuenergy.org/t-h-morays-swedish-stone/ (https://www.nuenergy.org/t-h-morays-swedish-stone/)

 What this is is unclear. It was assumed that this was some kind of quartz that had been subjected to very strong cosmic radiation. Probably a quartz meteorite, perforated by a strong flow of high-energy particles, electrons or others. No more specific information available.Morray also experimented with germanium semiconductors, but I think that at this time it was far from usable devices.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 25, 2023, 11:25:31 AM
According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray)
was born (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Never made any patent other than  his single patent for the therapeutic  device.
I approached his family few years ago.

According to the scan page listed  as :  link https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946 (https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946)
Not only about Henry Moray, but also about others who are now unknown.

From page 1925 to page 2023, scans of letters and other materials of Gerald Orlovsky on various topics about free energy, gravity, magnetism for the 1987 - 1988. That is, before the Internet era.
Gerald Orlovsky as inventor:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 26, 2023, 11:41:31 AM
About the Moray device:

- what are these “Luminous Stones”, “Swedish Stones” that he has been looking for a long time?
This is probably a metamict (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamictisation), which, when heated, suddenly self-heats and glows.

http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf (http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf)

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Jacob Berzelius (Swedish; 20 Aug 1779 – 7 Aug 1848),
isolated several new elements including cerium and thorium.
J Berzelius extensively studied natural minerals including gadolinite and reported about its ‘pyrognomic behaviour’, which upon heating exhibited sudden glowing followed by shattering into pieces.

https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf (https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf)

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For instance, in 1815 the famous chemist Berzelius2 reported on the pyrognomic behavior of gadolinite, a complex silicate frequently found in the metamict state. The term »metamict« was first used by Brøgger3 in 1893 for a group of amorphous substances existing with two another: hyaline and porodine. Pyrognomic behavior, i.e., a sudden glowing and subsequent shattering of a mineral upon heating, was also observed for some other metamict minerals, for instance, fergusonite.

http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf
 (http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf)
This type of stone may contain small amounts of radioactive substances. But, of course, they cannot be used as fuel in nuclear power plants, not so much  radioactive substances.

It is unclear how these stones could be used to create a free energy device.  :-\
Nanotechnology again..
So far I have only one idea: that such material can be used as a cold cathode in a vacuum- or gas-discharge tube. But where in these tubes is the free energy?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: forest on October 26, 2023, 09:06:29 PM
Energy is always in source, it may be Earth magnetic field filled with oscillations from collisions of cosmic dust or maybe just electrons induced in ambient air by rotational and not only movement of Earth. Or maybe we are just missing the truth and magnetic field is energy source for all generators ?
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: dxer_87 on October 27, 2023, 05:25:54 AM
Some new info what I was making 20 years ago with my radio. Somehow youtube has changed the video for weak resolution :/

Also info on kapanadze coils included.
https://youtu.be/4RxBBFnzcq0
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 28, 2023, 05:06:51 PM
Gerald Orlovsky as inventor:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski (https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski)
the only useful for us  in that listing  may be:
ENGINE POWERED BY PERMANENT MAGNETIC POWER.
https://patents.google.com/patent/NO910359D0/en?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski
that appears to be empty. No data in the doccument.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 28, 2023, 07:03:16 PM
http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf (http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf)
https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf (https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf)
http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf
 (http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf)This type of stone may contain small amounts of radioactive substances. But, of course, they cannot be used as fuel in nuclear power plants, not so much  radioactive substances.
It is unclear how these stones could be used to create a free energy device.  :-\
Nanotechnology again..
So far I have only one idea: that such material can be used as a cold cathode in a vacuum- or gas-discharge tube. But where in these tubes is the free energy?
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Metamictisation (sometimes called metamictization or metamiction) is a natural process resulting in the gradual and ultimately complete destruction of a mineral's crystal structure, leaving the mineral amorphous. - (not crystalline, or not apparently crystalline)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamictisation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamictisation)
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Metamict minerals are a special class of materials which were initially crystalline but have become amorphous because of accumulated structural damage caused by the radioactive decay of their constituent U and Th nuclides
Damage from α particles and recoil nuclei may cause dramatic changes in physical, chemical, mechanical and structural properties of materials.
https://www.nature.com/articles/293449a0
I was playing with it  during my experiments:
https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns (https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns)
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI (https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4)
Successful I was - remarkably well.
by using a quite small piece of beryllium window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium)
- neutron bombardment according to :
http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm (http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm)
-and yes. no other form of "neutron gun"  was used .
https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY?t=475 (https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY?t=475)
sorry my Russian was not yet  as excellent as it is now.
But  we have the same in  English:
https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=505 (https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=505)
Final project
-ready to use device 
instruction is not publicly suitable to be published .
-especially not in this forum. (NRC regulations)
But Colman was right it works.
_________________________________________________

reverse process:
In biogeology  opposite to Metamictisation is crystallization that uses no isotopic involvement.
is natural amorphous-to-crystalline phase transformation   : calcifiers
https://www.nature.com/articles/293449a0 (https://www.nature.com/articles/293449a0)

Summary:
Ability to store energy from isotopic interaction is typical normal and nothing new.
Chernobyl is the best  example of it.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 29, 2023, 06:37:25 PM
If you dissolve a magnet in acid, where does the magnetic field go?  ;)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 29, 2023, 09:43:34 PM
kind of silly question.
when you disorient magnetic domains in  Fe the mutual magnetic field is gone.
so  it does any form of disorientation of magnetic  domains
Magnetite is interesting from chemistry standpoint but I'm not the Chemist.
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/ccm/article-abstract/59/2/136/48709/ACIDIC-DISSOLUTION-OF-MAGNETITE-EXPERIMENTAL-STUDY
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 30, 2023, 09:18:54 AM
kind of silly question.

Wasn't it on this forum that some people argued that the magnetic field exists separately from the magnet ? That is, it should remain, like the smile of a Cheshire cat.  :D
It was seems me in topic about virtual rotating fields or permanent magnet motors.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: rakarskiy on October 30, 2023, 09:45:42 AM
Wasn't it on this forum that some people argued that the magnetic field exists separately from the magnet ? That is, it should remain, like the smile of a Cheshire cat.  :D
It was seems me in topic about virtual rotating fields or permanent magnet motors.

Fe3O4 is a magnetically conductive material, but where have you seen a stable permanent magnet composed purely of this material?

"Today there are many materials used in the manufacture of permanent magnets: Alnico, ferrites (ceramics), samarium-cobalt, neodymium-iron-boron, iron-chromium-cobalt and materials in the form of a mixture of magnetic powder and some binding component."

the magnetic field is the result, not the cause. What causes the magnetic field in a permanent magnet science and you and I do not know exactly.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 30, 2023, 12:56:31 PM
the magnetic field is the result, not the cause. What causes the magnetic field in a permanent magnet science and you and I do not know exactly.
I think it's the orientation of the magnetic domains. We spent energy on this during magnetization. But we dissolved it, and the domains disappeared altogether. Everything turned into chaos. And the energy spent on magnetization turned into heat.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on October 31, 2023, 07:28:19 AM
Is it true ?
It close to theme about an explosion of water drop.
https://texnoved.ru/harovaya-molniya/ (https://texnoved.ru/harovaya-molniya/)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 31, 2023, 12:48:55 PM
Hello Wesley!

I read your message and watched the video. Your gamma-beta spectrometer is cool.

-ready to use device 
instruction is not publicly suitable to be published .
-especially not in this forum. (NRC regulations)
But Colman was right it works.
Unfortunately, my opinion is this: a lot of work and money have been invested in the development of such technologies; many scientists around the world have worked to improve the devices.
Scientists had the best materials, instruments and personnel for their research.
This hard work resulted in just these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery)

Problems: Very low electrical power at the output of the device with large weight and dimensions.
The release of thermal energy is tens of times greater than the release of electrical energy.

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A number of experiments have found that decay rates of other modes of artificial and naturally occurring radioisotopes are, to a high degree of precision, unaffected by external conditions such as temperature, pressure, the chemical environment, and electric, magnetic, or gravitational fields.
  :-\

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_decay)

Here is about victims of a device with an electrical power of only 10 watts:

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Medical

Two days after exposure, on December 4, patient 2-MG visited a local doctor but did not mention the mysterious heating source, and the doctor assumed he was drunk. The resulting treatment however did clear up the symptoms. On December 15, patient 1-DN and 2-MG developed burning and itching on the small of their backs, where the radiation source had been closest. Patient 1-DN lost his voice as well, but did not seek care at that time. The wife of patient 3-MB and the brother of patient 2-MG learned that all three men were ill with similar symptoms, including increasing desquamation, especially on their backs. The wife and brother reached out to the police, who suggested that all three men seek medical attention. All three patients were finally hospitalized on December 22, and it was determined they had ARS. Patient 3-MB was released on January 23, 2002, as his injury was mild. The other patients remained in serious condition, and the Government of Georgia petitioned the IAEA for help treating them. The IAEA intervened: patient 1-DN was sent to Burnasyan Federal Medical Biophysical Center in Moscow, and Patient 2-MG was sent to the Percy military hospital in Paris. Patient 2-MG was hospitalized for over a year, and required extensive skin grafts, but survived and was discharged on March 18, 2003. Patient 1-DN's injuries lingered. He had received the greatest exposure on his back, as well as damage to his heart and vital organs. A large radiation ulcer formed on much of his upper left back. Despite intensive care, repeated antibiotics, multiple surgeries, and an attempted skin graft, the wound did not heal. His condition was complicated by tuberculosis, which prevented effective treatment of lung injury. He developed sepsis, and died of heart failure on May 13, 2004, 893 days after first exposure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lia_radiological_accident
 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lia_radiological_accident)
In biogeology  opposite to Metamictisation is crystallization that uses no isotopic involvement.
is natural amorphous-to-crystalline phase transformation   : calcifiers

During the transition from an amorphous state to a crystalline state, energy is released. This generates heat. An example of a household device that works on the same principle: a reusable handwarmers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRk7z7UCGQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRk7z7UCGQ)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on October 31, 2023, 01:12:05 PM
Is it true ?
https://texnoved.ru/harovaya-molniya/ (https://texnoved.ru/harovaya-molniya/)
I don’t know, I haven’t seen ball lightning. But people familiar with the eyewitnesses told me about it. But very inaccurate. I doubt that what is listed in the link corresponds to the description. At the very least, it will not be possible to evaporate even a spoonful of water with such artificial ball lightning, much less a barrel. Something other.

Eyewitnesses about probably ball lightning, at the beginning of the last century:
- lightning flew into the barn and killed all the piglets. Probably electric shock, but not sure.

I myself saw how lightning strikes the ground from a distance of 50 meters. At the same time, bright balls are formed at the point of contact, probably consisting of molten soil. They made two or three jumps on the grass and went out. From my vantage point, I estimated the size of these glowing balls to be tennis balls. But this is probably due to their bright light.

Another strange thing that I observed during a strong thunderstorm: - a strong sound, similar to the sound of a large trumpet, within 10 - 20 seconds after the lightning strike. I can’t imagine where lightning could have struck to make such a sharp sound. Maybe into some pipe with water, and the water in the pipe instantly boiled.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on October 31, 2023, 10:14:17 PM
Hello Wesley!
I read your message and watched the video. Your gamma-beta spectrometer is cool.Unfortunately, my opinion is this: a lot of work and money have been invested in the development of such technologies; many scientists around the world have worked to improve the devices.
Scientists had the best materials, instruments and personnel for their research.
This hard work resulted in just these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery)

Problems: Very low electrical power at the output of the device with large weight and dimensions.
The release of thermal energy is tens of times greater than the release of electrical energy.
  :-\
Thank you Sergh.
It is not about the power of the battery at all.
You didn't get the message or you didn't read
Harold Colman and Ronald Seddon-Gillespie  patent:
this is article not a patent here: http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm (http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm)
although  patent doesn't differ to much from it.
The wording is important in the patent.
The key  is Neutron ACTIVATION.
Neutron_activation# (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_activation#:~:text=Neutron%20activation%20is%20the%20process%20in%20which%20neutron,free%20neutrons%2C%20becoming%20heavier%20and%20entering%20excited%20states.)

That  is what was in my videos in comment:
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg583100/#msg583100 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg583100/#msg583100)
In the simple words we do not deal with isotopes at all.- well this is not fully correct or even  incorrect - it all depends from how we look at it.
The bottom comment is: You can't get more out, than you put it in.
Example: ***
So the secret is in energy conversion.
You may think about opening valve  on the  water pipe connected to the river with your two fingers and that gives you all water flow power in that pipe.


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Neutron activation is the only common way that a stable material can be induced into becoming intrinsically radioactive.
I'm not specifying here  if we are  dealing with fast neutrons or thermal  neutrons.
For slow one moderator is required. Teflon is OK too. 
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Such radioactive nuclei can exhibit half-lives ranging from small fractions of a second to many years.
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Here is a moment  where I must stop explanation and, you need to  pay attention to my videos to understand Colman.
In other  words,   active  specimen of known origin  having desired by us activity can be  classified  as:
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Isotopes, Isobars, and Isotones are terms used in nuclear physics to describe different types of atoms 1 (https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/isotopes-and-isobars/) 2 (https://docrabby.com/content/blog/2021/02/isotopes-isobars-isotones-and-isomers) 3 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isotone)
Isotopes are elements that have different mass numbers but similar atomic numbers.
Isobars are elements that have the same mass number but different atomic numbers.
Isotones are elements that have the same number of neutrons but different atomic numbers or mass numbers.
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/isotopes-and-isobars/ (https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/isotopes-and-isobars/)
And I'm not talking specifically about them.
I was bombarding the  Colman compound with  400MHz +, range EM wave in close field, but  you
can see the  resonant circuit  there  connected to the tube with the compound where  the compound is a part  of that circuit.
Normally in close field  photon  energy is likely converted to  heat.
I was doing it  by pushing the transmit button (1 to 3s ON, 0.5S OFF,  Tx with power around 100-150W
It was FM unmodulated carrier. -
However  FM is considered a modulation if the carrier is modulated. So it was F1 not F3 and  F1 is actually used in F.S.K.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_radio_emissions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Types_of_radio_emissions)
https://radionerds.com/index.php/Emission_Types (https://radionerds.com/index.php/Emission_Types)
- here  please look at table: Converting Between Old & New Systems look only at  vertical column named :Old
Note: the same results you'll have with A1

I used F1 because it has much  wider  bandwidth:
for comparison A1  CW is only
roughly 125 to 350 Hz wide .
A3 is 6kHz wide but in   in commercial radio station use it is 12kHz.
F1 is 6kHz and F3 is 25KHz ( in commercial radio station use)
In 2way communication F3 is 6kHz and  A3 is replaced with  SSB A3J. 2.4kHz wide.



But because the microphone has mechanical switch the click  could modulate FM signal as I was using microphone for ON/OFF
I was also using beryllium window and small .....xxxxx.... but that is not necessarily  needed.
The rest of it is not suitable for  publishing.
But it works with quite heavy load to be honest after the "procedure" was finished for 2-5h till the next 3 to 20s activation

During the years after experiment  I was trying to find any  kind of excuses to do not  give 
the actual reason for  my sudden  stop of  publishing this concept. Now I do not care any longer.
Colman works 100%.
I'm not willing to  publish something that may collide with existing regulations, nor
I feel confident  of  placing  anyone in  hazardous  environment, nor I think  the unknown to me individuals 
deserves this kind of knowledge - totally unprepared from safety stand point.

It also has military application as the power required to " open up the valve" ***
can come from  very small battery as long  as Tx proximity is close due to inverse square law and
impedance matching is not that critical when F1 is used.-at that point the activation time can be shorten to 1s.

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on November 01, 2023, 09:37:02 AM
The wording is important in the patent.The key  is Neutron ACTIVATION.
If you mean a neutron tube, then its design is very different from the Сoolman tube. Nothing secret, it is used in civilian industry.

https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/search/objects/object_type/neutron-generator

https://www.google.com/search?q=neutron+tube

But something in the community of fusor builders and neutron lovers does not notice messages about the energy, more than is consumed.

https://fusor.net/board/index.php


Harold Colman and Ronald Seddon-Gillespie  patent:
this is article not a patent here: http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm (http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm)
although  patent doesn't differ to much from it.
What do I think of the Coolman patent? The components that are poured into the tube are somehow very similar to the components of chemical current sources. Refractory glass quartz tube...
This device of his gets very hot. Of course, from 300 Watts HF, in resonance. Microwave. Probably the contents of the tube become very hot and melt. Some kind of high temperature chemical battery.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 01, 2023, 11:48:35 AM
Sergh
Quick note:
as the use of RF is not fully understood in  Colman here is a quote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator)
Radio frequency (RF)
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Ions can be created by electrons formed in high-frequency electromagnetic field. The discharge is formed in a tube located between electrodes, or inside a coil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_coil). Over 90% proportion of atomic ions is achievable.[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator#cite_note-ch8-2)

So the secret is in energy conversion.
You may think about opening valve  on the  water pipe connected to the river with your two fingers and that gives you all water flow power in that pipe.


It also has military application as the power required to " open up the valve" ***
can come from  very small battery as long  as Tx proximity is close due to inverse square law and
impedance matching is not that critical when F1 is used.-at that point the activation time can be shorten to 1s.

Wesley
But it works with quite heavy load to be honest after the "procedure" was finished for 2-5h till the next 3 to 20s activation

Pressure is not required:
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sealed neutron tubes do not require vacuum pumps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_pump) and gas sources for operation.

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cold cathode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_cathode) ion source which utilizes crossed electric and magnetic fields.

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sealed neutron tubes have replaced radioactive modulated neutron initiators (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modulated_neutron_initiator) , in supplying a pulse of neutrons to the imploding core of modern nuclear weapons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapon)

As I said in my previous comment:
I was bombarding the  Colman compound with  400MHz +, range EM wave in close field, but  you
can see the  resonant circuit  there  connected to the tube with the compound where  the compound is a part  of that circuit.
Normally in close field  photon  energy is likely converted to heat.
application for
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pyroelectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroelectric)
is also  possible.
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One approach for generating the high voltage fields needed to accelerate ions in a neutron tube is to use a pyroelectric crystal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroelectric_crystal). In April 2005 researchers at UCLA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UCLA) demonstrated the use of a thermally cycled pyroelectric (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyroelectric) crystal to generate high electric fields in a neutron generator application.

however  I didn't  use any of these commercially made Neutron tube generators/
And I stressed that I used beryllium window - just a small piece of it, but there is no necessity to have it in  that particular application.
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on November 01, 2023, 02:30:52 PM
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Sealed neutron tubesThe central part of a neutron generator is the particle accelerator itself, sometimes called a neutron tube. Neutron tubes have several components including an ion source, ion optic elements, and a beam target; all of these are enclosed within a vacuum-tight enclosure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator#Sealed_neutron_tubes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron_generator#Sealed_neutron_tubes)

Pressure is not required:

Initially, open neutron tubes were produced, which had to be pumped out with a vacuum pump and a controlled amount of gas under a certain pressure let into it.
Then they came up with sealed neutron tubes. This means that such tubes are sealed, welded and ready for use without additional pumping. The pressure inside is of course very low, otherwise ions cannot fly. Judging by the description on the Internet, the ability to work sealed in such tubes is supported by the special design of its elements.
These tubes would be freely sold on ebay if they did not contain tritium, which is prohibited for sale. Although the Chinese somehow achieved the sale of tritium key fobs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_radioluminescence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium_radioluminescence)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mokuWl0ud1I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mokuWl0ud1I)

English subtitles available.
It appears that tritium cannot be sold  in the US to private buyers without a license.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 06, 2023, 11:28:02 PM
I was  concentrated at no  vacuum  neutron generator called also neutron gun
Pretty known .
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on November 08, 2023, 07:53:07 AM
no  vacuum  neutron generator called also neutron gun
Okay, but I don't understand what you mean. "Non-vacuum" means that it operates at atmospheric pressure. But such does not exist, or it contains a very radioactive substance, contact with which would lead to rapid and fatal health consequences.

Please find proof in Wikipedia or other reputable sources.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 08, 2023, 11:43:20 AM
For you it doesn't exist.
For science and  technology it does,
Ortec made one form of it commercially available.
Military does it too.
That is what I said about regulations - We Americans are the nation  of law.
So for educated experimenter Colman works.

I'll see if I can find  publicly available literature I can post here.
The simplest you can do is type words : beryllium window and  neutron.
Here is an example:
beryllium.neutron%20sources. (https://inldigitallibrary.inl.gov/sites/STI/STI/2808485.pdf#:~:text=Other%20nuclear%20applications%20also%20utilize%20beryllium.%20Beryllium%2C%20given,has%20been%20successfully%20used%20to%20produce%20neutron%20sources.)



Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on November 08, 2023, 12:59:40 PM
Here is an example:
beryllium.neutron%20sources. (https://inldigitallibrary.inl.gov/sites/STI/STI/2808485.pdf#:~:text=Other%20nuclear%20applications%20also%20utilize%20beryllium.%20Beryllium%2C%20given,has%20been%20successfully%20used%20to%20produce%20neutron%20sources.)
So he is irradiated with super-powerful gamma rays. Read about gamma ray sterilizers. Or about the cobalt bomb.
The end of civilization on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb

 This is unacceptable in the context of a discussion about alternative or free energy.

Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 08, 2023, 01:16:56 PM
So he is irradiated with super-powerful gamma rays.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobalt_bomb)
No it is not.
You  are manifesting lack of knowledge in this particular area.
Nothing wrong. We all  learn something new.

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Gamma rays are simply high energy photons, electromagnetic radiation. When a nucleus still has too much energy, but is done releasing alpha and beta decay particles, it will release the energy by swapping the spin of a neutron or proton and releasing a high energy photon in the process.
so gammas are the resulting outcome and not the cause.
www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/quantum-physics (https://www.khanacademy.org/science/physics/quantum-physics/in-in-nuclei/v/types-of-decay#:~:text=Gamma%20rays%20are%20simply%20high%20energy%20photons%2C%20electromagnetic,releasing%20a%20high%20energy%20photon%20in%20the%20process.)

what you ignored is that:
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Gamma decay only occurs after alpha and beta decay in a sample, thats one thing to remember. Gamma decay doesn't change the mass or any other properties of the atom. Gamma rays are simply high energy photons, electromagnetic radiation. When a nucleus still has too much energy, but is done releasing alpha and beta decay particles, it will release the energy by swapping the spin of a neutron or proton and releasing a high energy photon in the process
That is where beryllium windows becomes handy .
https://ieer.org/resource/factsheets/basics-nuclear-physics-fission/ (https://ieer.org/resource/factsheets/basics-nuclear-physics-fission/)
however:
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Gamma rays produced in this way are also a minor feature of beta decays of bound neutrons,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_neutron_decay (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_neutron_decay)
and that is pretty consistent message in Colman patent.

In Colman I used  stable compound and electromagnetic wave at frequency of 400MHz + region - (that is  not a  frequency of gamma)
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Both elementary (such as muons) and composite particles (such as uranium nuclei), are known to undergo particle decay. Those that do not are called stable particles, such as the electron or a helium-4 nucleus. The lifetime of stable particles can be either infinite or large enough to hinder attempts to observe such decays.
\Particle#:~:text\ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle#:~:text=Both%20elementary%20%28such%20as%20muons%29%20and%20composite%20particles,enough%20to%20hinder%20attempts%20to%20observe%20such%20decays.)
Electromagnetic wave  carrier is a photon.
Photon can't interact with another  photon but it can deposit its energy when colliding with matter.
Energy of photon at given frequency can be received  with use of resonant circuit.
That is how radio, TV, cellphone works.
In Colman the quartz tube contains a compound and is a part of resonant circuit.
The source of electromagnetic wave  was made to be an external in the Close Field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field)
Colman says about Far Field too. That  makes few seconds of  process of RF - activating compound good for several 
hours of energy use For Free till the next activation.
The form of an impulse was F1 but A1 is OK too.
https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg583151/#msg583151 (https://overunity.com/17735/kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion/msg583151/#msg583151)
Neutron bombardment can make matter unstable
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when free neutrons strike fissile material unstable isotopes form, which quickly decay,
producing ionizing radiation and sometimes yet more free neutrons--
a neutron chain reaction if you will.
sometimes the struck material doesn't have to be radioactive itself, but turns radioactive upon neutron bombardment,
free-neutrons-pass-through-most-materials-but-how-do-they-damage-materials (https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/77211/free-neutrons-pass-through-most-materials-but-how-do-they-damage-materials#:~:text=when%20free%20neutrons%20strike%20fissile%20material%20unstable%20isotopes,steel%29%20turning%20into%20dangerous%20cobalt-60%20from%20neutron%20capture.)
The exact nature of neutron  gun was not provided by me to the public and if public is 
fluent  in some other  areas than particle physics( fundamental particles and fields, along with their dynamics),- it is not my fault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_physics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle_physics)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 08, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
In Colman I used  stable compound and electromagnetic wave at frequency of 400MHz + region - (that is  not a  frequency of gamma)\Particle#:~:text\ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particle#:~:text=Both%20elementary%20%28such%20as%20muons%29%20and%20composite%20particles,enough%20to%20hinder%20attempts%20to%20observe%20such%20decays.)
Electromagnetic wave  carrier is a photon.
Photon can't interact with another  photon but it can deposit its energy when colliding with matter.
Energy of photon at given frequency can be received  with use of resonant circuit.
That is how radio, TV, cellphone works.
In Colman the quartz tube contains a compound and is a part of resonant circuit.
The source of electromagnetic wave  was made to be an external in the Close Field
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_and_far_field)
Colman says about Far Field too. That  makes few seconds of  process of RF - activating compound good for several 
hours of energy use For Free till the next activation.
The form of an impulse was F1 but A1 is OK too.

Here important is to  concentrate on the nature of reactive components of resonant  circuit.
There are two:
The  Inductive reactance and  Capacitive reactance.
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Inductive reactance and capacitive reactance are types of reactance that measure the opposition to alternating current 1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_reactance) .Inductive reactance is related to the magnetic field surrounding a wire or a coil carrying current (https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/) 2 (https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/),
while capacitive reactance is linked with the electric field between two conducting plates or surfaces (https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/) 2 (https://byjus.com/jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance/)
Inductive reactance increases with frequency, whereas capacitive reactance decreases with frequency (https://www.electrical4u.com/electrical-reactance/) 3 (https://www.electrical4u.com/electrical-reactance/) 4 (https://www.vedantu.com/iit-jee/inductive-reactance-and-capacitive-reactance) 5 (https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/filter/filter_1.html)

So there are two cases where:
- inductive reactance is leading
and 
- where  capacitive reactance is leading,(resulting  high current or high voltage)
knowing that even straight piece of wire on  your table not connected to anything else   
-becomes  a resonant circuit  manifesting  both reactive components if exposed to  the right frequency resonance.
That piece of  wire can become an antenna  (e.g. a dipole horizontally/or vertically  polarized )
Over sudden  one may notice that the ends of  a dipole can  be  exposed to  eg.- very high voltage ( for some reason)  :) 8) ::)
knowledge about magnetic loop antenna may help a lot  too.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_antenna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_antenna)

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On a dipole there is a spread of current and voltage, in very simple words: at the end of the dipole, no current is built up b/c it is an open end, so there the voltage rise to a maximum. The impedance at the ends of the dipole is very high compared to the impedance at the feed point.
why-is-a-transmitter-dipoles-ends-the-max-min-voltage-instead-of-the-middle (https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/492541/why-is-a-transmitter-dipoles-ends-the-max-min-voltage-instead-of-the-middle#:~:text=On%20a%20dipole%20there%20is%20a%20spread%20of,compared%20to%20the%20impedance%20at%20the%20feed%20point.)

So not so  sophisticated knowledge about the two:
- particle science
and
-electromagnetic wave /resonant circuit behavior  is the base  to understand Colman Free Energy device.
But some of  the audience may  not be at that level  yet.
We may also speculate how much of it is  Energy for Free if any - as we must deliver EM wave in very much coordinated matter.
But that is good for another publication if needed.

question now is:
- who from the audience feels capable of continuing   this conversation :)
All Russians despite their gender are welcome too.. ;) :-*
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on November 08, 2023, 06:55:26 PM
And you also said that you don’t drink...
You don't have to be Freud to understand this. :)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 08, 2023, 08:23:27 PM
ha ..yes I don't.
But I do occasionally with my wife  usually one glass of wine low % as we both are not
suitable for anything stronger than that.
I was never in my life drunk or I think I was not, but I was close to  that  at least twice, I think..
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: Sergh on November 09, 2023, 08:35:02 AM

Gamma rays are simply high energy photons, electromagnetic radiation. When a nucleus still has too much energy, but is done releasing alpha and beta decay particles, it will release the energy by swapping the spin of a neutron or proton and releasing a high energy photon in the process
....
In Colman I used  stable compound and electromagnetic wave at frequency of 400MHz

Photon energy is directly proportional to frequency.

E=hf

where

E is energy (Typically in Joules)

h is the Planck constant

f is frequency (Typically in Hertz)

Gamma rays > 300 000 000 000 000 MHz

In your Colman experiments it was only 400 megahertz, which is a trillion times less than the energy of any gamma quantum.
This very low energy is insufficient to interact with neutrons. With this frequency your can only heat the substance inside the tube.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon_energy)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon)
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 09, 2023, 01:46:04 PM
Photon energy is directly proportional to frequencyGamma rays > 300 000 000 000 000 MHz
In your Colman experiments it was only 400 megahertz, which is a trillion times less than the energy of any gamma quantum.
This very low energy is insufficient to interact with neutrons. With this frequency your can//heat the substance inside the tube.
You are absolutely right. :)

Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 09, 2023, 04:43:59 PM
In regards to my previous set of comments  about single  water drop energy release mostly in form of an  explosion.
Arc-liberated chemical energy exceeds electrical input energy
Cambridge University.

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Experimental observations leave little doubt that internal water energy is being liberated by the sudden electrodynamic conversion of about one-third of the water to dense fog. High-speed photography reveals that the fog expels itself from the water at supersonic velocities. The loss of intermolecular bond energy in the conversion from liquid to fog must be the source of the explosion energy.


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Another report of electrically induced explosions in water came from Kansas State University. Johnson (1992)
claimed that the loudness was distinctly greater than that obtained with an equivalent amount of gunpowder.
He found that the remaining water droplets were cool to the touch and that apparently no steam had been produced.
Johnson suggested that the explosions may have been due to longitudinal Ampere forces,
and were tapping a new source of energy.
In 1994, the present authors took the first high-speed photographs of water ejected from an arc accelerator, and discovered
that the leading high-speed component was not a coherent liquid, but actually very dense fog, which
finally expanded in the air under the laboratory ceiling.
By trapping the fog in a balsa-wood absorber and measuring its temperature, it was found that
the fog was still cold – at most a few degrees above ambient temperature.
The discovery of cold fog explosions changed our scientific outlook on the remarkable behavior..
Yes this is remarkable  effect but  it  appears to be  manifested not only with water  or salt water.
Conductivity here is playing its role in the process and current can be quite low.
It is volume and amount of matter exposed and interacting  in the process that   in the small scale
behaves  as it would  behave in the large scale.
The example of it is small charge in the ordinance  interacting with the larger  one.
We may also  look at any compound reaction like role of  piezoelectric crystalline structure  in the lighter often  in its  sub nm form. :)
Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on November 09, 2023, 06:07:28 PM
Photon energy is directly proportional to frequency.
Gamma rays > 300 000 000 000 000 MHz

How do you know that the gamma energy quantum has a frequency of 300,000,000,000 MHz ? We measure radio frequency by direct counting. This would be obvious. However doesn't that direct meter device  exist.
 Измерялка такая не выросла.  :)What if this isn't true? It's an illusion.  :o
p.s.   Or measurement  of wavelength .
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 09, 2023, 07:24:25 PM
We may express  entire spectrum of Gamma as:
The frequency of gamma radiation ranges from 3X 10 18 Hz to 5X10 22 Hz.
frequency of gamma is 1020Hz .
However gamma is  a spectrum from - to. So the average  calculated from that spectrum represents 1020Hz .
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electromagnetic waves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_waves) covers  frequencies ranging from below one hertz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz_(unit)) to above 1025hertz,
corresponding to wavelengths from thousands of kilometers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilometer) down to a fraction of the size of an atomic nucleus (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_nucleus).
This range is divided into separate bands, and the electromagnetic waves within each band
are called by different names;
beginning at the low-frequency (long-wavelength) end of the spectrum these are:
radio waves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_wave), microwaves (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave), infrared (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrared), visible light (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_light), ultraviolet (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultraviolet), X-rays (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-ray), and gamma rays (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_ray)
at the high-frequency (short wavelength) end.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_spectrum)

for easier understanding:
1THz  = One terahertz is 1012Hz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz) or 1000 GHz.
Frequency of your Wi Fi is in average 2.4 GHz and 5GHz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_radiation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_radiation)


Wesley
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on November 10, 2023, 07:58:00 AM
I meant direct measurement that frequency,but it impossible.
We can judge the frequency only indirectly, by the energy during interaction.
Using formula E=hv.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: kolbacict on November 10, 2023, 07:46:06 PM
I'm afraid to assume that even the almighty Wesley does not have an instrument that measures the frequency of ultraviolet radiation using the direct counting method.
Title: Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
Post by: stivep on November 10, 2023, 08:53:56 PM
no I do not have
or to be correct I have some equipment in  ultraviolet region but not much.
Wesley