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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 698964 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3765 on: August 06, 2022, 05:10:28 PM »
    Stivep:   
   How many years will you talk about the same thing, without ever showing any real benefit?
   How many years have the "brothers" had their tower up? Does anyone have free energy now from their wireless source? NO?That was Tesla's idea, to provide for FREE ENERGY to everyone. Not a system that only they can control for their own profit.    Why not provide for individual energy producing devices, that can do the same thing, and anyone can install in their home, for light, heat, etc...  Well there is a reason, of course,  money... is the name of that game. Not free energy.
    Kapanadze needed no tower... nor will the signal from his device reach even to across the street. Nor needs to, so wake up...

    NickZ

do it. try it, make it.
Everything is explained here excluding one minor detail  contributed by my partner.
It is as easy that house wife can point at it , but I didn't see it, he did.
and if you don't understand his position that read here:
 Re: Holcomb Energy Systems:Breakthrough technology to the world   « Reply #1285 on: Today at 02:38:41 PM »

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3766 on: August 06, 2022, 05:11:17 PM »
There is no such LED bulb as you show in the video so I don't know if it will be the same. You yourself say that your hand is like earth. The same is happening with my bulb. The hand is also my base for the bulb.

What's different about your light bulb? plastic plate? you said this plastic plate is conductive material.

I don't know what you wrote it for? : ...I said : Your trick although real, will never  be  patented recognized nor endorsed  my friend.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3767 on: August 06, 2022, 05:30:17 PM »
 Holcomb Energy System appears to be a "Don Smith" device which he described in his later videos--Even his
suitcase model--though it contained a small battery--would power 1000 watts,it would also recharge the small battery
within.Don Smith had many "secret" contracts he could not reveal.His suitcase device,he admitted,was "1900's
technology" compared to what they already had at the time (circa 1998). At that time they had devices
running in the 5 GHZ range,which seems to point to the "5G" network we now have today. He had to teach his
lessons in Europe and Asia because American Institutions would not grant him patents nor listen to what he had.
Same with Joseph Newman--American Companies would not listen,made them spend their money,gave nothing
in return.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3768 on: August 06, 2022, 05:31:22 PM »
   Stivep:
   Can you show the benefit of extraction of USE ABLE energy from the air, or from the Schumann wave source to power anything at all, by those Zenneck waves?  No?   Is that just a pipe dream... Your "addition"?   How far from the HV source can those plastic blocks work? How many miles... Near field effects are well known.
   Kapanadze also has a patent, and he shows what he can do with his idea and devices, needing NO man made source.

    NickZ
You may be absolutely right.
I don't know how much of energy can be extracted from Schumann waveguide.
We made energy transfer test between NY and Los Angeles according to Dr James Corum with efficiency of 86% at its minimum at 1W and 17kHz.
 That alone can replace billions of tons of copper wire towers and lines, and make electricity bill, no longer to be charged delivery fees.
Electricity will than cost less than half of  its price.

In regards to Energy extraction from Schumann Waveguide
-one Kapanadze showing his kW's  from his device can't represent ability of  entire world to use his device at the same time.
I don't know that.
Wesley


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3769 on: August 06, 2022, 05:34:56 PM »
you said this plastic plate is conductive material.
NO. The plastic is NOT CONDUCTIVE !!!!
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3770 on: August 06, 2022, 05:46:46 PM »
   Wesley is showing an effect from the "near field", not anything that would benefit any one at a distance of more than a few feet.
Point being, that He is trying to make us think that Kapanadze does the same thing, with a hidden power source, even a mile or so away. So, he shows us on a plastic block what he think is the same thing.  Since he can not figure out any other way of doing it, like Tariel did it, for real.
   Nor has he shown any free extraction of energy from the Schumann Earth frequencies, such as what Tesla has mentioned, to be able to run cars, planes and ships at sea, at all. Nor has any one else, that I know of. Yet, I know it's all more than just possible.
And I do trust what Tesla has mentioned, over anything else. As he was not into it for the money.

   Almost anything will conduct HV if it is close enough to the source. Plastic is not normally black, and HV conducts on the surface of things. Try the clear plastic kitchen cutting blocks. We sometimes use them in our tests, since they don't normally conduct HV or HF too well.
   Trick is....  there is no trick. Yes, the hand on the bulb is the ground, without it, it's no cigar.
   One more thing, Wesley. Don't we have enough pollution on our planet, without having even more towers spewing shit out,  making us all sick?  And, are not the over 700 nuclear plants world wide not enough, for Russia, China, etc to play with???   You may trust the scientific community,  but I don't, as it's run by politicians, and dictators, and criminals... Planting viruses.   If you think that Russia is bad news, check out my country, what freedom is like in Venezuela. They will soon get more nuclear weapons, that can reach the US, as well. You may think that you are safe in the US, while strolling through the twin towers, right?
 
    NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3771 on: August 06, 2022, 07:20:09 PM »
Interesting comment Dear NickZ.
Try to show piece of plastic with light bulb. You may be successful
I'm not sure.
I was making many videos frequently for several years.
My  last video experiment was approved by my partner to be shown to the public.
After that there is few years with no more video as he objected  more information to be released.I even mentioned part 3 and more however this is as far as I was allowed to go.
30k of filming and editing equipment is seating here with no use.
That happened at the time when he was trying to humiliate me so I gave  him non working device and he surprisingly to himself made it to work.

You don't believe to the science , that gave you computer and internet... fine with me.
Instead of trying experimenting with Dr Corum A to B energy transfer you are complaining here .
If I was hungry, and without hundreds of pieces of equipment in my labs,  I might  be tempted to show myself as a hero and make few bucks on it.

All I have is  my family and few real friends, and that is my treasure.
No money can corrupt me as I can't sleep in two beds and eat two diners nor drive few cars at the same time.
I'm minimalist happy to be alive and I exist only to these who care about me.
I wish you the best. :)
Wesley
 
« Last Edit: August 06, 2022, 09:42:41 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3772 on: August 07, 2022, 04:04:32 PM »
   Wesley:   

   No, I don't believe in the "science" that uses nuclear weapons of mass destruction, and builds more nuclear plants, and all the lies that come with what you call science. The science that helps to destroy this world, and keep us in the dark, for their profit. That is NOT SCIENCE. That is manipulation, instead. Like the corona virus outbreaks. Wake up, Wesley. On which side are you on...really? Are you like the Russians that only believe what they are being told by their corrupt news media.
    There is no connection between science and spirit, like in the old times. Scientists today have lost all relations to spirit,  presently. It is a moral issue, that we face today, not a scientific one. As science has forgotten about spirit. Which they are so arrogant about, that they can kill and destroy what ever they don't like.

  Why would I want to experiment with the transfer of energy, at all? The last thing I need is to transfer energy.

   And, I am not complaining, just telling it how it is, instead. A real friend, will tell you the real truth. I am your friend...   
   NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3773 on: August 07, 2022, 04:49:57 PM »
I beg to differ
Wesley has written that transfer of energy is from “interface “ (between ionosphere and planet ?)
Access to unlimited amounts of energy which exist there ( at no real cost to harvest ? Free Energy?!


I am unaware of any successful independent replication of this claim !


However the missing piece is said to be a very simple “something ?”
By Dr.Hann
All of this has been written here , and compared to other claims it is a much simpler concept
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Brewster angle at interface ( ground)??


However all the proof we have is a conversation between Dr.Hann and Wesley!






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« Reply #3774 on: August 07, 2022, 05:06:29 PM »
   Ramset:   Not sure just what you are "differing" about. Or what Wesley was raving about. I've seen nothing to convince me.
   I mentioned that it was Tesla that came up with the original idea, not Dr. Hanns, Wesley, nor the brothers  Tesla explained his concept.  Not  sure just what has been proven or shown to work by any one else. But, certainly it won't be for free.  The brothers have had their tower up in Texas for years now. Looks like that is all there is going to be. A tower...
   Our interest lie with Free Energy. Such as Tesla had mentioned for everyone to benefit from.
   I'm not sure just what Wesley is talking about, nor why. But, it has nothing to do with FREE Power, but with the paid transfer of energy, instead. And so, he is still holding out on all of this, due to his ex-friend's monetary interests, or Dr. Hann. Or so he says.
But, Wesley is also telling us that he provided a non working device, which was made to work. Whatever that means...
I guess that that is suppose to convince us, of something. Not sure what...   

 Please correct me IF I'm wrong. You can differ, all you want.
   NickZ

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« Reply #3775 on: August 07, 2022, 06:00:26 PM »
Nick
You are absolutely mixing up two separate things


Dr.Hann “harvested” from interface (Wesley’s claim!


Regarding the tower that transmits Energy in Texas
And a completely separate tower somewhere else at a Texas farm
Which member SmOkey2 posted about recently!


For clarity (it has been written here )
You can use interface as transmit/receive medium


Or you can just harvest …what has been written here by Wesley to be unlimited power
Between ionosphere and planet’s surface ( interface)


So yes two entirely different things
One involves cost of transmission and harvesting loss
Other is just the access to interface !
And it is not harvesting transmitted energy from some tower …it is harvesting from indescribable
Amount of energy provided by ….Nature ?
Which resides in this interface!
And for Clarity SmOkey’s posts were not related to Corrum’s facility
An entirely autonomous setup on some big farm in Texas










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« Reply #3776 on: August 07, 2022, 08:06:06 PM »
But, Wesley is also telling us that he provided a non working device, which was made to work. Whatever that means...

Intelligent, educated thinkers don’t just want to get their point across to others; they are also careful to engage .

-idea that took one second can make you wealthy at incredible level.
  but wealth is not always money or only money it is knowledge too.
  For many  of you, spiritual value is wealth for others is not.
  Billionaires may want more, but you are happy achieving typical 
  average American $100k/per year per family especially in the house paid off by your parents.



Thank you Chet. absolutely true and correct assumption.
The value is not in hardware but in human brain who may or may not want to create it.

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Everyone  has value, and unlikely gives it away to the strangers without some sort of benefit.
Strangers in here expects something to be given from other participants own value , not promising anything in exchange
- but subconscious shift in feelings will always bubble up to the surface, and ultimately impact how someone acts towards you.


Aggravation ,attacks, all of the tricks can be used to push individual to say more... and express audience disappointment
just because they start to believe that this particular guy has something that takes one second to have it.
Fricken Holcomb, Wesley, Dr Corum, Kapanadze
"get the neck gaiter and mug dum ass: ok!!!"

Few words explains most of you boys, with your toys of your desire, pretty girlfriends, inventions, educational achievements, business secrets, ideas.
If I have it I don't share it If I share it I don't have it  .
- but I want others to know that I have it and they don't.
O Boy...


For me friendship means more than money.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm obligated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The value is in you
Move your ass not like they dance in Brazil but like in NASA.
And you don't have be rocket scientist.
Example:
Every few weeks I have concept for perfect invention, only to find out that someone already patent it.
but one or two per year, are not patented yet or not patentable or not allowed to be published by US Government regulations.
Some of them requires no hardware and no investment, just piece of paper and $20k
to patent attorney for a invention that is as simple as paper clip.
If I was hungry I would do it, but I'm not.
And few years later someone makes money on it.
So don't be minimalist like me!!!
example:
Virtual points: replacing all GPS satellites forever.
With accuracy to ~1mm or less anywhere in the near space around us
Never patented yet .
So What was wrong with it?
The answer from my patent professional:
-military application, order of silence, hold of any patent rights and review
-for period of 3 years, likely prolonged to 12 years if submitted
and my personal approach to it .

So I mentioned it in one of my videos:
https://youtu.be/QHBEHOOsxT4?t=461
Note: Everything  I said in video and publicly presented, can't be patented,
as it now belongs to public domains. But you may try your luck.




It takes $50 for the wire and some of your work, reading Dr Corum patents and my own two sections writing here and
find out if I'm right or not.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT...... TOO SIMPLE? ??? ??? ??

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3777 on: August 07, 2022, 08:29:20 PM »
Waiting for a patent 2-10 years is for idiots who think it will protect them from thieves.
Only big companies can protect themselves like that, and they don't spend 20k but 100k, $ 200k and they are still in the courtrooms afterwards.
If you spend $ 200k on a patent and the value of the device is $ 2 billion, then 1000 companies start doing it tomorrow and spend the next 30 years in court, but you may not stand it.

Maybe it's better to make contracts with several people and have a business together. If someone is dishonest, everyone will earn a lot of money anyway. You only want to earn? It will not work that way. Kapanadze did so and is dead. Most of the time he was without money or the money was small. He wanted millions of dollars immediately. What's in it now? He probably doesn't even have a good tombstone.
It is possible that Kapanadze never had such a device and it was all there to live from day to day. I do not know.

Saying that only dr. Hanns knows how to do this is unconvincing.

See what Rossi is doing now. He collects 1 million people to pay him> $ 200 for a led lamp that shines for 10 years for free. It has been collecting customers for over 1 year and has> 100,000, but it still does not make devices. Why ? Because it's another scam? $ 200 * 1 million pcs !!! you can live in luxury without making 1 million devices.
I know many devices that do not exist, but everyone was looking for investors:
Testatica, Innovatechno, StevemMark, ERR, Lutec, Infinitysav, Kapanadze too and many more.


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« Reply #3778 on: August 07, 2022, 08:50:02 PM »
Saying that only dr. Hanns knows how to do this is unconvincing.
You are absolutely right.
I didn't file a patent for it.
Spend less than 10 dollars at your country currency for the wire and check if it works,
WHAT...... TOO SIMPLE? ??? ??? ??


Wesley

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« Reply #3779 on: August 07, 2022, 09:51:44 PM »
 Ramset:
   Really? Mixing up two different things.  I'm not.   Maybe you are mixing things up.
   Can any one show just how to extract useable  energy from the surrounding medium. No? 
    NickZ