Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[lukaszkwiatkowskii]

To nie jest żaden izomer HHO, po elektrolizie powstają gazy które bardzo szybko stają się 2-atomowe, przy katodzie H2, przy anodzie O2, a w japońskim samochodzie jest zwykły elektrolizer na akumulator, a do silnika doprowadzona jest mieszanka gazów H2,O2 do spalania.

[forest]

Zwykły elektrolizer nigdy nie pozwoli wyprodukować wystarczającej ilości H2 z wody używające akumulatora samochodowego aby umożliwić jego napęd bez użycia benzyny.
Izomer HHO jest odpowiedzią, wszystkie wodorki tlenowców za wyjątkiem wody są w stanie gazowym w temperaturze normalnej. Dlatego twierdzę że to może być rozwiązanie sposobu napędu samochodów spalinowych.

[lukaszkwiatkowskii]

Zwykły akumulator pozwoli wyprodukować, a poza tym to zwykły elektrolizer niema tam warunków do izomeryzacji czego kolwiek (to dobre izomer HHO dobrze nie nazwa quantum). H2O2 jest ciekły, no i wodorki tlenowców nie są izomerami.

[kolbacict]

Why, when a hot and cold body (heater and refrigerator) is separated in space, the heat engine works. All cycles, from Carnot to Stirling.
And when they are spaced apart in time, it does not work? Cool down the body, after
for some time it heats up from the environment. Time is also called the fourth
measurement.   

[kolbacict]

https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?
Why can't I do it?

[stivep]

Why, when a hot and cold body (heater and refrigerator) is separated in space, the heat engine works. All cycles, from Carnot to Stirling.
And when they are spaced apart in time, it does not work? Cool down the body, after
for some time it heats up from the environment. Time is also called the fourth
measurement.   

According to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, heat will always flow spontaneously from hot to cold, and never the other way around.
A refrigerator causes heat to flow from cold to hot by inputting work, which cools the space inside the refrigerator.
that involves Time and controlled Space at the same  time.
Trying to separate it  is like separating  combustion engine from the fuel vapor in the process of igniting by the time of 1 spark.
Space is there but right  Time is not as at another  spark  the piston  is  in wrong position.
Wesley

 

[stivep]

https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?
Why can't I do it?

 _{technology BackDoor,
обычные микрофоны слышат хорошо
формируют частоту и фазу звуковых сигналов, которые воспроизводятся через ультразвуковые громкоговорители-спикеры.
«БэкДор» выдает на выходе два тона с частотами 40 кГц и 50 кГц.
усиливаются, , перемножаются – из-за фундаментальных нелинейностей в данной системе.
(f1 – f2) и (f1 + f2).
(f1 – f2) означает 10 килогерц,  лежит в рабочем диапазоне частот микрофона,
такой сигнал проходит без изменений через фильтр низких частот
как обычный «полезный» звук.
происходит порождение своеобразной низкочастотной «тени» в слышимом диапазоне.
в системе BackDoor имеется возможность и для передачи информации по этому каналу.
можно иx модулировать
а затем демодулировать
с помощью неслышного ультразвука похищать информацию из изолированных систем, не имеющих сетевых средств коммуникаций}

Ok. I went along  entire article.
It starts interesting,
After that drifts into parapsychology,  UFO,   Russian pride, and  all other  kind of nonsense.
The Technology Back Door can be characterized as utilization  of longitudinal sound wave in  the spectral range  from 20kHz Up and its nonlinearity
Human can  process  . ( 20Hz- 20kHz ) sound.
Possible applications is  ultrasound communication, automation, remote controll  and and  spying.
Authors proposed addition  and subtraction    of sub auditable sounds and  down converting  the difference into   auditable sounds.
All the rest of that Russian  text is  not important .. just B.S.
Ultrasonic transmitters and receivers are mechanical  devices.
and it is normal to them to  hear that what we cant  hear.
Good analog microphones works up to 100kHz.
Wesley

[kolbacict]

I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.

[stivep]

I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.

Dear   kolbacist.
For some reason you can't have 6 hands and 4 eyes. but some other living organisms  can.
and  bats operates and communicate at ultrasound frequencies.

Humans can hear from 20 Hz to 20 kHz.
Anything higher is called ultrasound or ultrasonic sound.
The reason that bats use ultrasound is because it has such a high frequency and it has a low diffraction or it bends less.
They use this sound to do a couple of things like to catch their prey and also just to get around.
https://hypertextbook.com/facts/1998/JuanCancel.shtml#:~:text=Humans

Wesley

[stivep]

author=kolbacict link=topic=17735.msg561530#msg561530 date=1637134321]
https://kiwibyrd.org/2017/08/11/178/
Is it true that it says that the microphone can hear sounds that the ear cannot hear?

Why can't I do it?
Wesley

[stivep]

I used two dynamic heads, type 6gdv.
The frequency was fed to one 20 kHz, to the second 21 kHz.
Sound was received by the device ВШВ003
For some reason, I did not hear a sound at 1 kHz.

Of course  you can't hear it.
the difference between 20kHz and 21kHz is 1kHz but  frequency  of this 1kHz is still  in bandwidth your hearing  is not.
You may  down-convert it  to  any range between 20Hz to 20kHz or subtract in the mixer these two frequencies ,
this is how superheterodine works in radio
and than you'll hear it. But you can see this 1kHz at your
oscilloscope connected to your microphone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superheterodyne_receiver

Hint:
1. think how particle in air( micro-plastic) can hear  and react with  a particular frequency of sound wave= longitudinal  mechanical  wave in resonance.
2. think how size , weight,  and  density of particle is differentiated  when exposed  to longitudinal  mechanical  wave in resonance.
- process it  in your brain and you are the winner.
-look in my previous  post what I meant by word winner.
Wesley

[lukaszkwiatkowskii]

To jak masz dwa mikroskopy elektronowe to jednym możesz produkować układy scalone metodą litografii bez-maskowej (maskless lithography) a dokładniej "Electron-beam lithography".

[kolbacict]

 What(Who) is it ?
a drunkard lie under your table?
The second picture is already gone ...

Of course  you can't hear it.
the difference between 20kHz and 21kHz is 1kHz but  frequency  of this 1kHz is still  in bandwidth your hearing  is not.

And why are there no beats in the air in the room between these frequencies?
With a difference frequency of 1 kHz?
Why, in an electrical circuit, this happens when two electrical signals are mixed, but not in the case of acoustic waves?

To jak masz dwa mikroskopy elektronowe to jednym możesz produkować układy scalone metodą litografii bez-maskowej (maskless lithography) a dokładniej "Electron-beam lithography".

You can do both at once.

[stivep]

What(Who) is it ?
a drunkard lie under your table?
The second picture is already gone ...

humoristic: use of two words that when spoken sounds the same but    when written the are different.
difference-between-lay-and-lie https://askanydifference.com/difference-between-lay-and-lie/

I'm not sure what you are alluding to?
are you questioning that we have not  one but two LEO 435VP?
We have  two units of  LEO 435 VP and in addition to it  we actually have the third one too, but is not working at the moment.

__________________________________________________
One uses Liquid  nitrogen and the other is not.
the two pictures from the comment on the top that shows the same very microscope in the same very room.
One of the pictures shows slightly  separated main unit from its electronics and my jacket on the floor.
so I can lie down while checking connections. :)pictures: LEO 435 VP and  LEO 435 VE shows the same unit.
and nothing is gone.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561594/#msg561594
_______________________
so where is the lie? lye ?

Below this comment  you have set of  two pictures of  my two different working units.
The  LEO 435VP  on the second picture  named  LEO 435 unit# 2 is in different room and it has  Liquid nitrogen dewar on it.

Scanning electron microscope (SEM)
Resolution: 4 nm
Computer controlled stage: 5-Axis
Specimen chamber.
EDXRF or EDS  Energy Dispersive X-ray  Spectroscopy.

Energy dispersive X-ray spectroscopy (EDS or EDX) is a chemical microanalysis technique used in conjunction with SEM.
The EDS technique detects X-rays emitted from the sample during bombardment by an electron beam to characterize the
elemental composition of the analyzed volume. Features or phases as small as 1 µm or less can be analyzed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/energy-dispersive-x-ray-spectroscopy
some helpful videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpXFcf_La0&t=926s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOJGZJa3cZg&t=164s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlXEP5yONA0&t=20s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBu9Xzc1TgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOPS2AAUwOU





I used it also to analyze ferrite composition from Russian  TV Rubin used in number of  FE experiments.
Wesley

[stivep]

And why are there no beats in the air in the room between these frequencies?
With a difference frequency of 1 kHz?
Why, in an electrical circuit, this happens when two electrical signals are mixed, but not in the case of acoustic waves?
You can do both at once.

There will be none.Every microphone has different  frequency range and different sensitivity
The two longitudinal waves must have the same frequency and be opposite in face and equal in amplitude( magnitude) at that given point  you are at, to cancel
itself, but the effect will be valid only for  the particular point  the observer is at.
When you or your microphone  moves  left right you and your microphone will not hear cancellation .

If you have two different frequencies of longitudinal wave  you'll not  be able to  mix them together  unless you receive the tones and in form of electrical signal
 mix them in  mixer.
You can't base on  article in Russian  language  as it was written by an analphebet (illiterate.) person in physics.
The Russian made his own comments to  this  article:
 BackDoor: Making Microphones Hear Inaudible Sounds Nirupam Roy, Haitham Hassanieh, Romit Roy Choudhury University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
https://nsr.cse.buffalo.edu/mobisys_2017/papers/pdfs/mobisys17-paper01.pdf
and everything is explained in it:
I'm reading it now . If I  find anything wrong in it I'll definitely note it here.


Wesley