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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1147166 times)

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2070 on: November 11, 2021, 04:40:33 PM »
Hydrogen is best stored as water.   And cheaper.  We have H2Opower on the forum who owns Steven Meyer's technology.  And I tried everything, but I can't. But he doesn't speak.

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« Reply #2071 on: November 11, 2021, 04:47:32 PM »
Hydrogen !!?
 We had very smart fellow at forum share a method for hydrogen heating.
 The claim is MUCH more heat recovered through recombination and interactions with precious
 Metals (found in automotive catalytic converters ) mixed with sand plus utilization of diesel fuel
 Additive  ( blue DEF anti sulfur additive used in trucks for emissions  (has high Nitrogen content
 4times as many “H” ?
 I would like to try this here ?
 Others have claimed 10 times more heat than energy used to electrolyze?
Respectfully
 Chet


Edit for comment below
Yes I will lookup info posted at this forum tonight
And will add here to this post, and also invite ACCA to discussion!
 For clarity , it is my intention to replicate this here ( however I want best possible results
So will seek guidance from  ACCA for finer details .
« Last Edit: November 11, 2021, 05:12:25 PM by stivep »

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2072 on: November 11, 2021, 05:11:47 PM »
 Yes please ask this  gentleman to  join the conversation
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2073 on: November 11, 2021, 06:39:27 PM »
Nie "molecular sieve" tylko "fuel cell" - ogniwo paliwowe.

Co do Toyoty Mirai to posiada zbiorniki wysokociśnieniowe (700 bar), i ogniwo paliwowe.
https://www.toyota-europe.com/download/cms/euen/Toyota%20Mirai%20FCV_Posters_LR_tcm-11-564265.pdf .

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2074 on: November 11, 2021, 07:23:25 PM »
Obecna cena gazu do samochodu za 1/km to ok 0,36gr przeliczając na H2 za kilometr to ok. 0,40gr.
To są realia na obecną chwilę. Koszt instalacji gazu powiedzmy 4.000 pln i tankujesz wszędzie. Gdzie tu sens dla H2 gdzie cena nowego auta Toyoty to 300.000 pln a to pewnie porównywalne
do auta za 150.000 pln + 4.000 gaz !
H2 nadal trzeba produkować, transportować itp.

Zabawki dla bogatych jak na razie. Akumulatory co roku mają coraz lepsze właściwości, a jeśli uświadomimy sobie, że jedna z pierwszych stacji w kosmosie posiadała już wtedy baterie li-ion to co teraz mają do dyspozycji ? Z czego zasilany jest laser 300kW który do pracy potrzebuje więcej niż moc lasera ?

https://www.ga.com/ga-ems-and-boeing-team-to-develop-300kw-class-helws-prototype-for-us-army

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2075 on: November 12, 2021, 02:01:51 AM »
Nie "molecular sieve" tylko "fuel cell" - ogniwo paliwowe.
translation:
Not the molecular sieve but  fuel cell.
I disagree with you.Time is running forward. Think in category of year 2022.
mylisz sie.
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The material made from manganese hydride would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks
which store the hydrogen and function alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen-powered system.
molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/
https://eepower.com/news/molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/

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The new material would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks – which store the hydrogen and work
alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen powered ‘system’. The material, called KMH-1 (Kubas Manganese Hydride-1),
would enable the design of tanks that are far smaller, cheaper,
more convenient and energy dense than existing hydrogen fuel technologies,
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/researchers-discover-new-material-that-could-unlock-the-potential-for-hydrogen-powered-vehicle-revolution/

for comparison I'm giving you everything about fuel cell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2hV38PQSA

How to make a hydrogen fuel cell power generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5UO2BYAaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9U5rySRks Russian but  is in English .

first in the world   Zero emission  guitar
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https://youtu.be/4V5UO2BYAaY?t=936
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2076 on: November 12, 2021, 09:28:59 AM »
Napisałeś wcześniej:
"f. Molecular Sieve for Hydrogen converting its energy to  electric .. cars.
   and that looks like future of the cars. 1170km from 5kg of Hydrogen."

a artykuł dotyczy czego innego, czyli "Molecular Sieve" nie konwertuje energii, tylko przechowuje wodór w zbiorniku tzn. jak wcześniej pisałem o zbiornikach posiadających tzw. "gąbkę wodorową" - wielowarstwowe powłoki strukturalne wodorków metali (metal hydrides).

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2077 on: November 12, 2021, 01:34:59 PM »
Mniej więcej wiem o co chodzi, a mianowicie o materiał najczęściej z pvdf połączony z wielowarstwową gąbką wodorową NiTi+MgNiHx, którą można przechowywać w temp. pokojowej oraz ciśnieniu atmosferycznym

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2078 on: November 12, 2021, 01:37:48 PM »
the Mirai shows us good performance !
When we divide a conventional compact class car its 6 lt. gasoline consume per 100 Km range we get 60 000 Wh/100 Km = 600 Wh/Km


https://www.tesla.com/customer-stories/world-record-father-son-drive
85 000 Wh battery capacity/681,6 Km = +- 125 Wh/Km ( by average -25 mph velocity ! )


Mirais 5.65 Kg hydrogen x 33.33 KWh/Kg (700 bar ! compressed)   https://www.idealhy.eu/index.php?page=lh2_outline

/ 1360 Km range = 139 Wh/Km ,without given average teste drive velocity !


From Poland/Canada we know a possible lower cost alternative by same/similar Mirai Fuelcell performance  :
http://www.rexresearch.com/holubowicz/holubowicz.htm
I've found one way to utilize that heat, and so propose a high efficiency engine that converts this engine heat into extra work. The conversion quadruples efficiency -- thus fuel consumption and GHG emission are cut by 80%. In addition the NOx emission is eliminated.

the above conventional compact class car 600 Wh/Km cutting by 80 % = 120 Wh/Km !

the compact class car to hybrid conversion :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#
from 6 lt/100 Km to hybrid 3 lt./100 Km conversion

and by gun engine this cutted 80% = 0,6 Lt/100 Km or 60 Wh/Km !?
and this 60 Wh/Km by " gun engine ..... plus water 8:1 fuel mix  "
= 52,5 Wh water and 7,5 Wh fuel consume per Kilometer ?!  water as hydrogen storage and deliverer
Is the hybrid engine coupled generator not improveable in its efficiency ?  8) Kumar,Tudor-Frunzi,Kango Iida,Akio Hara,P. Arestov double coil winding,Yurth generator coil coating  ,  ......
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2079 on: November 12, 2021, 01:54:56 PM »
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4

Wesley
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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2080 on: November 13, 2021, 06:02:21 PM »
Inventor filed   patent application and  order of secrecy was imposed  for ~ 10 years.
 The technology was too good.. 
 You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
 Inventor  wasn't allowed to talk about it , write about it , show it   ..... it was  forbidden to the public..
 But he had  priority rights to the  patent  if...  if..... if.....

And now many years later  you can  hear about it:
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4


 I read some of the opinions expressed  under the  video :      Gustav Derkits 2 days ago   
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This presentation is so full of basic errors that it made me angry enough to unsubscribe.
Absorption (as is Pd:H) is distinct from hydride formation (as in TiH2).
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Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Any material that contains sufficient
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Hydrogen to function as an energy source by easily releasing H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
In this system hydrogen is stored in a very thin layer on the surface of a disk inside a machine.
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You never discussed how much the system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored and never derived the volumetric or density
energy efficiency. You said the machine extracts hydrogen “from air”, an oxidizing medium, with close to zero free H2, then changed
to “ smokestacks”, a reducing medium, which still has very low H2 content, without thinking through whether either of these scenarios
are reasonable in a commercial setting. I’ve only touched a few of the many bloopers.
 Send this presentation to a real chemist, if you know any, and ask for an honest critique.
The background story of this system is sketchy, with its “DOD stopped us” scenario.
The chemistry and physics are very funny. The manufacturing analysis indicates a high degree of complexity.
The engineering functional analysis shows a large amount of semi-functional dead weight, including the mass of the disk and container.
Your presentation naively accepts a lot of claims at face value. It is not an analysis.


My opinion:

I have problem with
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Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Gustav Derkits in his critique didn't mention that Ions are always positive or negative.
Here is supporting link and quote:
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Ions result from atoms or molecules that have gained or lost one or more valence electrons, giving
them a positive or negative charge.
Those with a negative charge are called anions and those with a positive charge are called cations.
It has more protons than electrons, resulting in the positive charge.
why-does-an-anion-have-a-negative-charge

Solid hydrogen by wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_hydrogen differs  in description from  that  explained in the video
that is talking about  Molecular solid hydrogen - in very clever  form of "sponge."
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H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
Yes it will but it is up to inventor to  deal with it and investor to take risk.
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You never discussed // system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored // volumetric or density//
energy efficiency.
I agree but blogger sales its content for money from YouTube and is unlikely  able to address this question.
Here is supporting link and quote:
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well-known hydrogen sulfide removal process is based on the reaction of hydrogen sulfide with iron oxide
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-sponge-process
https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20150117768A/en
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10847809
Explanation provided by  Video blogger in form of article is here:
https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/forget-solid-state-batteries-solid-hydrogen-explained


Here is site of Plasma Kinetics the patent holder .
https://plasmakinetics.com/
they make :
light-activated hydrides. plasma-kinetics-light-activated-hydrides.
that  was/is? partially restricted By DoD, DoE.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31950606/

Statement of video creator:
Plasma Kinetics boasts its technology to be 17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries for the same amount of energy stored.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2081 on: November 13, 2021, 07:19:12 PM »
Podstawy chemii się kłaniają, czyli nie tylko występują wiązania jonowe ale też inne, najczęściej polarne np.: dwa atomy nie jonowe mogą być połączone wiązaniem polarnym.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2082 on: November 13, 2021, 08:55:52 PM »
Jeśli chodzi o samochody na wodę to wg mnie jest tu dużo nieporozumień wokół metody. Uważam że wykorzystywana jest tu energia z zewnątrz (ambient energy) do rozłożenia wody na wodór i tlen ewentualnie  na natychmiastową konwersję wody w gaz tzw HHO (izomer H20 o stanie gazowym, nietrwały i wybuchowy ) - jako że gaz ma dużo większą objętość to tłumaczyłoby dużą efektywność takiego paliwa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0kjilQd1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Fc8q5TMas
Jak widać mamy technologię aby ocalić świat od zmian klimatu ale z niej nie korzystamy :-(

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2083 on: November 14, 2021, 01:29:00 AM »
Dziekuje za komentarze.
Here is much better explanation  of how Hydrogen on tape like in old tape recorder works.

This Breakthrough Could Lead to the Rise of Hydrogen Fuel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe4GulRuYU
17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries

You going to love this video.
Wesley