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« Reply #3390 on: October 06, 2021, 09:46:25 PM »
Stivep,
Tesla transformer is OU. Slow wave secondary helical in resonance is accumulating energy.
We have some energy "for free", or another way said- Nature gives it.
In resonant tank, one impulse results in tank oscillation. We charge capacitor only  ONCE , discharging it through spark gap makes MANY oscillations ( this is when Nature gives something extra ).
Each of this MANY oscillations gives off energy from primary to secondary, where that extra energy is accumulated.
It is like a grain of wheat that turns into a bowl of wheat.
We have ONE grain, put it into soil, Nature turns it into bowl of grains.
Oscillation of tuned LC circuit is a key to OU.
And Tesla mastered this setup.


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Pix aka Wojciech




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3390 on: October 06, 2021, 09:46:25 PM »

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« Reply #3391 on: October 06, 2021, 11:02:23 PM »
Wojtek dziekuje za komentarz.
No my friend  OU doesn't exist.
You can't find any credible scientifically right literature  saying about OU.
All we can have is conversion of energy from one form to another and always with losses.
However if we don't have to pay for this energy it is our FE Free energy.
If you still not sure than show me any  credible literature supporting your  statement.
I'm 100% sure  you will not find one.
Wesley

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« Reply #3392 on: October 07, 2021, 10:25:07 AM »
Hi Wesley,
Resonant LC circuit like Tesla magnifier is "Free".
For ONE impulse we have MANY oscillations that we harvest.
Like swing or pendulum- you give it a one push, it swings many times.
Or a wheat grain- you plant one grain, you will get whole ear of grains.
Doesn't matter how it is named, OU or "Free", there are just a words.
Nature gives it.
It is open circuit.


Kind Regards,
Pix


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« Reply #3393 on: October 07, 2021, 01:38:24 PM »
Hi Wesley,
Resonant LC circuit like Tesla magnifier
For ONE impulse we have MANY oscillations that we harvest.
Like swing or pendulum-
It is open circuit.
Nature gives it.
Pix
Some known big names in physics  are known now as renegades.I'm not one of them.
I don't  care to have name. I'm in shadows . Money, fame, pleasure  was Tariel's but not mine dream.
He could shake the world  but he wasn't payed or  benefiting  from it. So he didn't do it.
I don't need to be paid... I don't care.
Science  looking  at real phenomena explains them, and doesn't use excuses such as :
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Nature gives it.
You have many oscillation but power equation  of all of them  shows losses.
Pendulum:
IN  power  > than  all of   ripples, swings, periods
IN  power = all of the effects created by it + losses
However  Input power (IN) can activate another process where foreign source of energy
takes over  and than the only question that is  important : Who pays for that energy.?
If we use  energy to create solar panel than  after installation  of that panel,  energy from the sun  is for free
to us.
 
Wesley
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« Reply #3394 on: October 07, 2021, 11:23:42 PM »
Hi Wesley,
1.Then how  Tesla Magnifier works? In primary circuit capacitor is charged to spark gap break voltage and then oscillations starts.
All those oscillations are accumulated in secondary ( with losses).
But it is evident that system energy is raising because of those oscillations (they are "free").
Additionally if resonant frequency of Tesla Magnifier is exact as some natural backround earthly EMF fields,
then this open circuit is harnessing extra energy from enviroment ( earth-ionosphere wave gude space).
Kapanadze always talks about enviroment. Correct me if I am wrong.
2.Ordinary heat pump has COP of 2-3. Extra energy is taken from enviroment in the form of heat. 1kW of electrical energy
consumed by work of compressor and fan gives 2-3kW
of energy in the form of heat extracted from ambient air.
3.Ferromagnetism. Ferromagnetic material amplifies external magnetic field hundreds and thousands of times.
4.Avalanche. Photomultiplier, electrons multiplier, even ordinary spark gap . Process multiplies number of electrons (current).
It is like a chain reaction.
I don't like playing the words what is OU or what is "free". It is obvious there is no "free", but always converted from some other
source that we are not paying for- like sun rays converted in PV panel.


Please see attached the closest patent in my opinion to TPU.
Kind Regards,
Pix
« Last Edit: October 08, 2021, 12:04:22 AM by stivep »

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« Reply #3395 on: October 08, 2021, 01:14:55 AM »
Hi Wesley,
1.Then how  Tesla Magnifier works?
Kapanadze always talks about enviroment.

2.Ordinary heat pump has COP of 2-3.

3.Ferromagnetism. Ferromagnetic material amplifies external magnetic field hundreds and thousands of times.

4.Avalanche. Photomultiplier, electrons multiplier, even ordinary spark gap . Process multiplies number of electrons (current).
It is like a chain reaction.



Add 1Here you have link to  what looks like reputable electrical engineering site.
https://electrical-engineering-portal.com/magnifying-transmitter-nikola-tesla
This is exactly the text  you would agree with.
The guy sounds  almost like me explaining Tesla Magnifying Transmitter, in spite of the fact that it is written for
average Joe Schmo or some Russian from deep Russian agricultural  "Glubinka" to attract  his attention while
this text is  making educated reader to laugh.

Here you have much better explanation by Serbian scientist Dr Jovan Cvetić.
https://pennedout.com/things/aetheric_physics/teslas_magnifying_transmitter_principles.pdf
Serbians are heavily indoctrinated by  Russian influence, corruption ..... 
Serbians fights with Croatians  for  priority rights to a  country of origin of Nicola Tesla.
But guy is OK he  was paid to do the valuable work.

Summary:
Tesla magnifying Transmitter is only making HV and low current easier.
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Ordinary heat pump  has COP of 2-3.
You are looking at locally present phenomena characteristic to heat pumps and  refrigeretors
The explanation is here:
https://www.sfu.ca/~mbahrami/ENSC%20388/Notes/Second%20Law%20of%20Thermodynamics.pdf

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A magnetic field of about 1 T can be produced in annealed iron with an external
field of about 0.0002 T, a multiplication of the external field by a factor of 5000!
the explanation is here:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/Solids/ferro.html

Add 4 this is not like  chain reaction. 
An electron multiplier consisting of several electrodes (dynodes) is covered with a layer of secondary emissive material,
but multiplication is given   at  the expense of energy delivered to each one of dynodes.
the explanation is here:
https://psec.uchicago.edu/library/photomultipliers/Photonis_PMT_basics.pdf

nothing is for free including  energy in spark gap.
harnessing extra energy from environment ( earth-ionosphere wave guide space).
Kapanadze always talks about environment.
statement: "harnessing extra energy from environment  or Kapanadze talks"
is not accepted by physics.
Blind person can cross the road, Kapanadze was just lucky to build his device, and Lottery winner can get money.
Statistical mathematics  can be interested with all three of them 
But physics will ask for mechanism of repeated successful replication/repetition of phenomena in question.
 
 


Wesley
« Last Edit: October 08, 2021, 12:19:47 PM by stivep »

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« Reply #3396 on: October 08, 2021, 09:13:57 AM »
Vladimir Atsyukovsky also believes that Tesla's transformer is over-unity.
Due to the energy of the ether.  ???

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« Reply #3397 on: October 08, 2021, 10:04:32 AM »
Hi Wesley.
Thanks for links to articles.

1. Quote :
"Summary:Tesla magnifying Transmitter is only making HV and low current easier."


High voltage is on the top terminal of Tesla secondary, high amperage is at the grounded part. Tesla was stating that idea is to create a
huge oscillations of reactive power and convert part of that reactive power to to real power. Still, energy accumulation and gain in
Tesla Magnifier is coming mainly from primary circuit oscillations. Stepanov patents are also based on creation a lot of reactive
power by resonant circuit and converting that back to active power.


2. Heat pump and ferromagnetism are examples  that we can get something extra from enviroment and nobody is calling this OU or free energy.
3.What is your opinion about Thonemann patent I attached in my previous post.
TPU looks like is based on the principle of non indictive current drive by travelling wave. Principle used to create heating current in plasmas.


Cheers,
Pix
« Last Edit: October 09, 2021, 03:04:02 AM by stivep »

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« Reply #3398 on: October 08, 2021, 10:16:06 AM »
Witam,
co do tesla magnifier'a to zawsze można przetestować w mikroskali na przykład na symulatorze, niżej przedstawiony
zmodyfikowany schemat poglądowy dla symulatora (pewnie w rzeczywistości może i by działał, ale trzeba sprawdzić),
oczywiście elementy dobrane "na oko", ale jest jeden fakt nie zmienia fazy napięcie w punktach kolejno między cewkami od L2 do L5.
« Last Edit: October 09, 2021, 03:04:20 AM by stivep »

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« Reply #3399 on: October 09, 2021, 03:06:29 AM »
Nie ma mnie w biorze . Odpowiem jak bede  mial chwile.
I'm not in the office now. I'll respond to the comment  later
Wesley

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« Reply #3400 on: October 09, 2021, 06:11:10 PM »
Wesley, what do you think about Atsukovsky's opinion about the Tesla transformer? ;)

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« Reply #3401 on: October 18, 2021, 04:35:14 PM »
So many BS on this forum.
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o

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« Reply #3402 on: October 19, 2021, 12:11:03 AM »
So many BS on this forum.
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o
Please specify.
The forum as one
or
my part of forum  is BS.?
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reply:
Cheap food in McDonald  serves with not much delay.
You want good one -...you'll wait for  processing ,and serving it.
But at least ...you'll know that you are in   the right  place.
So you have choice between
- "color" with Asiatic Russian/Korean flavor
and 
e.g me the Jewish in American/European sauce with my three places on the go..
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560697/#msg560697
https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/60/

My IP  guys are against  me clicking on download links,, ...due to activity  of some  far Eastern  European totalitarian bandits.
just  provide me with direct  patent number next time.
I said that I'm not in my office now  and I have limited time to respond  usually 10 minutes per day.
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I'm not on  O.U.R.
https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375although
Ramset was inviting me there  I think that there is  some old good group of people that migrated from overunity.com
due to  opinion difference with Stefan.
And I'm Stefan's body...
Then ever'body says the big guy oughtta pick somebody his own size, and maybe they gang up on the big guy.
Never did seem right to me .
Seems like O.U.R. ain't givin' nobody a chance."

Joke....

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https://overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=302.375

https://patents.google.com/patent/US3085189A/endirect download link :
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/99/e8/3c/26db34923fe819/US3085189.pdf
I must say you are the one ...worth my time.
You may try to catch me on something I said...if you  can... :)
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Patent Citations (5)
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 US2163740A *  1935-11-26 1939-06-27 Jr Nathaniel B Wales Phase wave ion gun   
 US2218725A *  1938-04-22 1940-10-22 Telefunken Gmbh Electron focusing system   
 US2657314A *  1947-11-18 1953-10-27 Csf Ultra short wave generator having a wide band of oscillation frequencies   
 US2657305A *  1947-01-28 1953-10-27 Hartford Nat Bank & Trust Co Traveling wave tube mixing apparatus

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Cited By (5)
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 US3462636A *  1965-04-15 1969-08-19 Siemens Ag System for the conversion of microwave energy into electric direct current energy utilizing an electron beam tube   
 US3521119A *  1968-01-10 1970-07-21 Rca Corp Rf excitation pumping of gas lasers by means of a wave guide and coupling coils   
 US4742278A *  1987-06-03 1988-05-03 Iannini Robert E Single connection gas discharge display and driver   
 US5386181A *  1992-01-24 1995-01-31 Neon Dynamics Corporation Swept frequency switching excitation supply for gas discharge tubes   
 EP1662847A2 *  2004-11-29 2006-05-31 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd.
Driving frequency modulation system and method for plasma accelerator
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Some literature  to share:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soCfpyu2q3A Making Tube Amplifiers from TVs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978 Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier Teardown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978 Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGdQ0C7CYg  Teardown of a Microwave Amplifier and a Traveling Wave Tube

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About inventor :
Peter Thonemann
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thonemann
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enVux_Dhjr8

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In 1947, Cousins and Ware began experiments using pinch in toroidal tubes.
Thonemann was able to arrange a small amount of funding, and in 1948 began basic experiments with electrical discharges in a linear tube containing mercury gas to study the pinch effect.
By the next year he had moved to a larger copper torus and was able to demonstrate the pinch to Frederick Lindemann and John Cockcroft.
Thonemann became the Atomic Energy Research Establishment (AERE) Head of Research on Controlled Thermonuclear Reactions in 1949, a position he held until 1960.[1]

pinch effect
plasma_physics Cylindrical%20pinch
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-details-of-the-pinch-effect-and-magnetic-fields-in-plasma-physics

https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/Pinch+Effect

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At Harwell, Cockcroft had successfully argued for the construction of a much larger machine, ZETA.[1] By 1957, early indications were that ZETA had successfully produced tiny amounts of fusion, and the story began to leak to the press.
This led to considerable coverage about Thonemann's role in the Australian press.[2]
In January it was announced that ZETA had succeeded.
After further work, it became clear that the signals of fusion were false, and the story had to be withdrawn, causing great embarrassment.[1]

https://youtu.be/L0KuAx1COEk?t=1829


Note:

I was in it for 5 minutes  I just looked at the patent.
I'm not sure if I'm in line with subject  matter

I'll correct myself little later
I printed the patent I'll look at it at some  Quick Break From Driving


Wesley
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« Reply #3403 on: October 19, 2021, 10:54:34 AM »
Hi Wesley,
I stated that OU site is full of BS. It is hard to find a valuable information because it is immediately covered by tons of BS.
Your topic about Zenneck surface wave is very informative.
But it deals with "transmission of energy".
I am more concerned about creating/converting/getting some energy.
Thonemann patent could be found on internet US3085189. It is used to drive current in tokamak plasma for heating it. The same effect is happening if instead plasma we insert conductor.
Similiarities with Steven Marks words:
1.Patent is owned by US Atomic Energy Commision.
2.Electrons drift  in gas or central conductor caused by travelling wave is enchancing that travelling wave. That gives feedback effect which is feeding that process. "Furnace that is feeding itself"
3.DC in central conductor.


PS.
In fact I pointed this patent to overunityforum a while ago  ;)


Cheers,
Pix

« Last Edit: October 19, 2021, 01:09:44 PM by pix »

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« Reply #3404 on: October 24, 2021, 02:29:29 AM »
I gave TPU patent on the silver plate and nobody bothers  :o

Analysis of the patent
no final conclusions  are made in this  post yet:

so :
1.   we can place any tube inside of helix ( coil).2.   That tube will have   two electrodes from both  ends.
3.   one of electrodes will act as cathode and another as anode.
3a. anode "may not be" needed if we plan to shot the particle out ...
      -that can be compared to:
      CRT of TV where  screen doesn't have phosphor screen and  anode grid.. the particle is accelerated and just shot out.
      however traditional CRT mechanism of accelerating is much better for that.


4. While particle in circular tube  the wave makes  full 360 degrees, the wave in the circuit LC  is "dying"( please read in the text of  the patent)
   this point 4 will be corrected in next comment as it is not accurate.

5.   It is  an electro-magnetic induction device for the conversion of radio frequency electrical energy into direct current electrical energy,
      we delivering :
RF at 1MHz
of power ~2-3kW
and in result we  have at the ends of the vacuum tube:
 4-5V 
of DC power ~2-3kW

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However  we can also  make reverse action.
where we delivering  DC to the tube and we getting in result the  ~1MHz...2-3kW

Yet another  scenario is that when we
 "modulate" DC( with voice) varying its amplitude
or  we do reverse action means  we take 1MHz and modulate it with  AM Voice than   the other  part of the device  acts as demodulator..


So it is a sort of  very clever  transforming device....a "transformer"
 however  coil 20 ( figure 1) has yet another application

Wesley
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