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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1147184 times)

groot

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1665 on: October 20, 2019, 02:14:58 AM »
Hello

Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more.  ;D
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Antenna Fundamentals:

  VSWR is the ratio of the maximum voltage to minimum voltage on the transmission line.  With an impedance mismatch, the VSWR is greater than one, indicating the presence of reflections.  As the impedance at the end of the transmission line becomes higher—approaching open circuit, the VSWR approaches infinity, indicating that all the power is reflected.   This situation is similar to the incidence of a light beam at an interface between two media, such as air and water, in which some light is reflected and some goes into the water.  VSWR reduces the amount of power transmitted to the antenna or  reduces the signal from the antenna when it is used to receive signals. 

Resonance and standing wave, resonant voltage building up at the TOP LOAD and discharge, a spark, corona discharge.
maybe just maybe all this occurrences are unwanted effects, all tesla coil builders seek sparks and corona and Nikola Tesla tried to avoid all of that .
Reading colorado springs notes made by Tesla we can find out that he was sending up to 1000amps thru ground stake.


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groot

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1666 on: October 23, 2019, 02:22:00 AM »
please delete this

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1667 on: October 23, 2019, 09:00:30 AM »
Why?
It’s true that Tesla’s coils achieve the maximum standing wave. Quarter wave resonance. And yet, combine it with LC resonance.
Such an antenna does not really emit.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1668 on: October 23, 2019, 12:03:29 PM »
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1. the current is in a loop with the earth
2. HV goes to the ground wire.

It's enough to do experiments to understand, but everyone is just waiting for the device. That is why those who have achieved something do not share with others because others are passive.

not everyone is waiting but some favor to work on experiments instead of posting pages after pages of information ( relevant ore not). it drives more and more poeple away  than helping them.

1. kind of sort of....

Raycathode

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1669 on: October 23, 2019, 04:23:54 PM »
Hello, i going back a few years back when there was one person (with nickname in the forums "Tungus Wiliam") who interesting explained in detail the principle of operation of the Tariel Kapanadze generator with presented schematic diagram. In this regard i provide an archive document in Russian that could be translated into English

and short part from this document referring to the description of the details in the diagram:
Translated by Google Translate


« Last Edit: October 23, 2019, 09:11:30 PM by Raycathode »

onepower

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1670 on: October 24, 2019, 12:46:38 AM »
Groot
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Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more.  ;D
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying. People often describe it as an antenna however in order to produce the desired effects we must do the opposite of what everyone else does and turn the antenna upside down.

Tesla said the HV secondary coil and the top load must be perfectly insulated to prevent all corona effects, radiation and losses. Nobody listens and they use a leaky top load which will radiate energy and negate the proper effects. Everyone has it backwards and upside down thus it is no wonder they cannot make anything work. The process was to store a great deal of energy in the insulated coil and top load with no losses or radiation then drive it into the ground plane in a single impulse with no return. This produced a HV surface conduction wave which travels along the ground much like a solition wave. What Tesla was trying to do was reproduce the effects similar to a lightning strike to ground. He even said this was where he initially got the idea... lightning. Think about that, lightning is obviously not an antenna and it does not produce EM waves therefore it's not the same thing.

Now one could say the wave like disturbance must dissipate and it does to some extent however we should understand this is not a Hertz or alternating EM wave this is a DC conduction wave. From Tesla's work with extremely HV he understood that even the best insulators act like conductors if the voltage is high enough. From this he deducted and proved through experiment that voltage (a difference in potential) can be replaced with a singular wave of very high potential which does not alternate in potential like an EM wave.

Understand, an ocean wave "alternates" like an EM wave above and below the average or mean height bound to every other wave however a solition wave travels as a singular disturbance not bound to any other waves. Obviously, if it is not bound to any other EM waves then it can act independent of them and is not bound to act like them. As it turns out all one has to do is not do the same thing as everyone else does over and over and over... do something different. I mean it's so obvious and self-evident it boggles the mind doesn't it?.

Why anyone would keep doing the same thing over and over when they know it doesn't work is apparently beyond my understanding. So there you have it, do something different, do the opposite and you will be well on your way. People just aren't all that smart but mother nature is a genius with billions of years of evolution to back her up, think about that.

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groot

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1671 on: October 24, 2019, 02:07:28 AM »
Groot
Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying.

Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

Thx

onepower

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1672 on: October 26, 2019, 04:41:31 AM »
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Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

No problem, I agree and it's strange how all these patents we see are almost never as they seem. The most important parts relating to a working principal and the process are always missing. The trick I have found is to not get too hung up on what we think we see or hearsay and look at any given technology objectively and conceptually.

Absolutely the biggest mistake I see many people making is assuming because something looks similar to what we have seen in the past it must act or work similar which is not always the case. My line of reasoning is that if I was actually intelligent all of the answers should come naturally and flow like water however this is not the case. At which point it occurred to me that it was never the capacity to retain a bulk knowledge of science or technology which relates to other people but to try to do our own thing as an individual. Conjure up a new concept, start experimenting and see where it takes us.

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ramset

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« Last Edit: October 29, 2019, 01:17:17 AM by ramset »

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1674 on: October 28, 2019, 03:54:58 PM »
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Conjure up a new concept, start experimenting and see where it takes us.
totally agree. There are a lot of lies on the Internet. Do not trust anyone and do not listen to anyone. Do it yourself. I try.

e2matrix

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1675 on: October 28, 2019, 04:58:47 PM »
scalable power from the atmosphere ?
http://www.conflowpower.com/


Seems like that deserves it's own message thread.   Quite amazing if it's real and ever gets into production.   It does seem like they are getting close.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1676 on: November 10, 2019, 08:56:42 PM »
Title of video  is:
Экскурсия по музею БТГ Free Energy [EBM] которого нет,  Pr. Szabo  в Будапеште около 10 лет назад.
Trip to museum of FE EBM that doesn't exist, Professor szhabo in Budapest   around 10 years ago.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=1TyDfrn5JAE

this is next step of history of EBM popular in  year 2009 an d 2012
Information is related by Russians so please "grain of salt" or "pinch of salt"

EBM - ENERGY BY MOTION

first translated comment from  Russian's
:Gammamanager ещё делает БТГ?
is Gammamenager still making  Free  energy Generator?

Уже давно не делает, темболее это  Канада потом удрали в Венгрию, потом  кое кто почил а дочка все просрала, вернее продала.
They dont work on it  long time ago , ,remember that  is Canada , than they  escaped to Hungary  and than  he did make some progress but.. daughter ... she wasted or to be more accurate  sold  it.

 Их абривеатура крайняя EBM   «Energy by movement»
Their device it was exactly EBM  «Energy by motion»

Максим давно в моей публикации, очень давно..
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s1682635/parallelnyy_magnitnyy_potok_tehnologiya_djo_flinna
Maxim he is long time in my  publication, very long time.
( they talk about Joe Flynn)

В конце Вестли не понравится так как Флинн далеко не первый просто Америка так столбит за собой технологии
At the end Wesley will not be happy about it as  USA is so  much .. for its technologies.

Это русский образец  подобной технологии
http://ckb-topaz-yug.ru/nashi-razrabotki/eppm-5-kvt.html
This is russian example of that technology
А ну гляну
Let me look at  it...

Сделали ,только помалкивают...
Yes ..they did it  .. but  they dont want to say to much..

more about EBM is here;
https://youtu.be/a_lQyfM9QIc?t=171
https://rakarskiy.io.ua/s2640425/generaciya_beztoplivnaya_ebm_energy_by_movement




Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1677 on: November 15, 2019, 09:57:28 AM »
Congratulations! The IAP has given us the 47.2 GHZ (at least for 4 yrs)
To do with as we please, including building energy receivers designed to the 1/4” wavelength
American FCC still prohibits broadcast at that frequency to amateur radio, but they have no jurisdiction
over energy reception.
Telecom stepped down, which means that’s our “free energy”
Beamed down to us from nuclear satellites that will last 100 yrs!

kolbacict

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1678 on: November 15, 2019, 12:45:31 PM »
Explain to the ignorant what it is.
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Beamed down to us from nuclear satellites
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47.2 GHZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1679 on: November 18, 2019, 02:30:57 AM »
Wesley,

Those Ortec's look gorgeous, I guess you like to collect these, can't blame you.

OK I think I may have time to get back to the Coleman experiments in awhile.   At this point I do not care about spectrum lines only safety.  When you told me about the thing throwing neutrons without gamma I stopped the experiment.  Do you still stand by this claim? If so the particle detector is paramount for safety reasons.
 I have an alpha beta gamma detector I made with Russian tube but nothing for the particles.
I know you are hesitant in talking too much about this device due to your friend who is invested heavily.  Is he at all interested in consulting or licensing, could you inquire?  It could save a bunch of time.  I know neutron particle detection requires sensitive setup and containment and imagine boring a hole in the lead shielding around the experiment for just the detector probe end would be optimal.  What was the frequency of neutrons you were able detect per hour?

Don't worry I did not start the Coleman experiment from your data, but only found you in a search when I was bringing the thing up, just curious if anyone else had attempted same.  Just to say you are not a bad influence that made me experiment with this, only the good influence that made me take pause.

Thank you for the great videos and science!