Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[r2fpl]

give me link to  his comment if you have one.
If you don't have  it than this comment  of  yours  is  irrelevant
Wesley

http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48
https://youtu.be/Urdotg_CPJo

Didn't you know that ?
Some who do not watch the movies to the end and then are surprised.

[r2fpl]

It is difficult to know now what is truth and what is not truth.
There used to be a photo showing devices in production. I have this picture but I don't want to put it here. If you want, I will send it to you pr.

[groot]

After countless hours of running back and forward in my garage with a glass of water in my hand,
I found that sweet spot Hooray .
Somebody forgot to mention that size of glass matters LOL 

[x_name41]

Hello, i going back a few years back when there was one person (with nickname in the forums "Tungus Wiliam") who interesting explained in detail the principle of operation of the Tariel Kapanadze generator with presented schematic diagram. In this regard i provide an archive document in Russian that could be translated into English

and short part from this document referring to the description of the details in the diagram:

На схеме точка А питается от моста и емкости С2, требования к параметрам
тока и напряжения определяются потребителями в виде контура L1C1,
автогенератором G, и генератором питающим ключ VT1.
Точка В является для контура источником тока от моста (точка А) и источником
постоянного высокого напряжения от строчного трансформатора М. Питание на
контур снимается с конденсатора – накопителя энергии С3.
Через строчные трансформаторы M и P продеты полвитка резонансного контура
L1C1.
Генератор - auto G – автогенератор, обратная связь для поддержания резонанса
без ФАПЧ заведена с обмотки L7.
Обмотка L2 высоковольтная, питаемая током колебательного контура L1C1 и
выполняет функцию повышения потенциала в точке В сохраняя баланс
растраченной энергии контура, чем больше ток в контуре, тем выше потенциал
точки B. Для контроля заряда емкости С3 и ограничения напряжения можно
ставить разрядник или варистор. Рекомендуемое напряжение на контуре 800
вольт, этот параметр расчетный и зависит от нагрузки и цепей сброса энергии с
контура, таких как строчник P.
Строчник P выполняет функцию трансформатора тока с мощной обмоткой
съема Lp и высоковольтной L3.
Обмотка Lp является источником тока для повышающего преобразователя
между точками DH.
Ключевание катушки и L(R) производится с частотой 50 Hz с заполнением ВЧ
( например 100 кГц) скважность – 2.
В период отсутствия накачки L( R ) емкость С4 пополняется высоковольтной
энергией от L3, катушка S может не применяться, разрядник W то же, цепь
может быть замкнута от L3 до точки D.
Емкость C4 - основной накопительный элемент , рекомендуемый диапазон
заряда емкости должен быть в пределах 440-880 вольт, при циклах отбора
энергии при ключевании нагрузки заряд не должен снижаться ниже 400-440 v.
Дроссель L(R) со стороны заземления представляет мощный насос электронов,
а для всей схемы от транса тока P - это ФВЧ и апроксиматор для выделения
синусоподобного сигнала 50 Hz.
Провод Q может быть выполнен в виде внутренней обмотки дросселя с
согласованным напрвлением тока, но я бы не стал этого делать, выигрыш не
большой и фронты режет при ключевании VT1.
Номиналы элементов рассчитываются исходя из энергетики блоков питания,
нагрузки и личных предпочтений, все узлы и блоки очень простые.......
P.S. Схему можно усложнить или упростить......по желанию.......

[groot]

Hello Wesley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3urK7ybyyZM

Link is to one of many many kapanadze demo videos .
Could you point me to JUST ONE that shows kapanadze device working and a guy taking measurement of current in a ground wire.

According to Corums patents you adjust polyphase probe while taking current measurement at the ground stake.
Unless you use a probe without grounding ( they patented this too ) you should see a current flow.

Video translated by you shows a measurement of 0 (volt? , amp?) before device was turned on, and then once its on  there is a guy touching it with his tongue. No measurement .

If this technology is based on surface wave and air earth interface , and grounding is utilized should we see current in this wire??

My assumptions are based on Corums patents only.  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/4d/66/f0/2ebc8481c0e629/US9941566.pdf
Line 35 to 40 .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goq76CQapyI
22min 25 sec in to video - is this a current measurement in a ground wire??

THX

[r2fpl]

22min 25 sec in to video - is this a current measurement in a ground wire??

I said that this is the most important thing how this device works !!! no one understands why?
there are two possibilities that I know:
1. the current is in a loop with the earth
2. HV goes to the ground wire.

It's enough to do experiments to understand, but everyone is just waiting for the device. That is why those who have achieved something do not share with others because others are passive.

[groot]

Hello

Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more. 
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Antenna Fundamentals:

  VSWR is the ratio of the maximum voltage to minimum voltage on the transmission line.  With an impedance mismatch, the VSWR is greater than one, indicating the presence of reflections.  As the impedance at the end of the transmission line becomes higher—approaching open circuit, the VSWR approaches infinity, indicating that all the power is reflected.   This situation is similar to the incidence of a light beam at an interface between two media, such as air and water, in which some light is reflected and some goes into the water.  VSWR reduces the amount of power transmitted to the antenna or  reduces the signal from the antenna when it is used to receive signals. 

Resonance and standing wave, resonant voltage building up at the TOP LOAD and discharge, a spark, corona discharge.
maybe just maybe all this occurrences are unwanted effects, all tesla coil builders seek sparks and corona and Nikola Tesla tried to avoid all of that .
Reading colorado springs notes made by Tesla we can find out that he was sending up to 1000amps thru ground stake.


Thx

[groot]

please delete this

[kolbacict]

Why?
It’s true that Tesla’s coils achieve the maximum standing wave. Quarter wave resonance. And yet, combine it with LC resonance.
Such an antenna does not really emit.

[jojo500]

1. the current is in a loop with the earth
2. HV goes to the ground wire.

It's enough to do experiments to understand, but everyone is just waiting for the device. That is why those who have achieved something do not share with others because others are passive.

not everyone is waiting but some favor to work on experiments instead of posting pages after pages of information ( relevant ore not). it drives more and more poeple away  than helping them.

1. kind of sort of....

[Raycathode]

Hello, i going back a few years back when there was one person (with nickname in the forums "Tungus Wiliam") who interesting explained in detail the principle of operation of the Tariel Kapanadze generator with presented schematic diagram. In this regard i provide an archive document in Russian that could be translated into English

and short part from this document referring to the description of the details in the diagram:

Translated by Google Translate

[onepower]

Groot

Since everyone is eager to answer questions i have one more. 
Tesla coil is often described as antenna. Its very poor antenna that is radiating poorly.
Nikola Tesla designed it as a device that sends power over large distances. ( im skipping word wireless on purpose)

Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying. People often describe it as an antenna however in order to produce the desired effects we must do the opposite of what everyone else does and turn the antenna upside down.

Tesla said the HV secondary coil and the top load must be perfectly insulated to prevent all corona effects, radiation and losses. Nobody listens and they use a leaky top load which will radiate energy and negate the proper effects. Everyone has it backwards and upside down thus it is no wonder they cannot make anything work. The process was to store a great deal of energy in the insulated coil and top load with no losses or radiation then drive it into the ground plane in a single impulse with no return. This produced a HV surface conduction wave which travels along the ground much like a solition wave. What Tesla was trying to do was reproduce the effects similar to a lightning strike to ground. He even said this was where he initially got the idea... lightning. Think about that, lightning is obviously not an antenna and it does not produce EM waves therefore it's not the same thing.

Now one could say the wave like disturbance must dissipate and it does to some extent however we should understand this is not a Hertz or alternating EM wave this is a DC conduction wave. From Tesla's work with extremely HV he understood that even the best insulators act like conductors if the voltage is high enough. From this he deducted and proved through experiment that voltage (a difference in potential) can be replaced with a singular wave of very high potential which does not alternate in potential like an EM wave.

Understand, an ocean wave "alternates" like an EM wave above and below the average or mean height bound to every other wave however a solition wave travels as a singular disturbance not bound to any other waves. Obviously, if it is not bound to any other EM waves then it can act independent of them and is not bound to act like them. As it turns out all one has to do is not do the same thing as everyone else does over and over and over... do something different. I mean it's so obvious and self-evident it boggles the mind doesn't it?.

Why anyone would keep doing the same thing over and over when they know it doesn't work is apparently beyond my understanding. So there you have it, do something different, do the opposite and you will be well on your way. People just aren't all that smart but mother nature is a genius with billions of years of evolution to back her up, think about that.

Regards

[groot]

Groot
Hey Groot, the reason so few have been able to make this work is because they have not read Tesla's work or listened to what he was saying.

Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

Thx

[onepower]

Groot

Hi onepower. Thank you for your reply its much appreciated. I totally agree with you. Everyone should educate themselves and follow intuition.
Thank you for sharing  your opinion ill look in to it.
One must be open minded but should restrain from foolish coping some diagrams not knowing how that device work.

No problem, I agree and it's strange how all these patents we see are almost never as they seem. The most important parts relating to a working principal and the process are always missing. The trick I have found is to not get too hung up on what we think we see or hearsay and look at any given technology objectively and conceptually.

Absolutely the biggest mistake I see many people making is assuming because something looks similar to what we have seen in the past it must act or work similar which is not always the case. My line of reasoning is that if I was actually intelligent all of the answers should come naturally and flow like water however this is not the case. At which point it occurred to me that it was never the capacity to retain a bulk knowledge of science or technology which relates to other people but to try to do our own thing as an individual. Conjure up a new concept, start experimenting and see where it takes us.

Regards

[ramset]

scalable power from the atmosphere ?
http://www.conflowpower.com/
editNew thread for CONFLOW
 https://overunity.com/18359/conflow-power-unlimited-harvesting-scalability-from-atmosphere-and/msg539970/#new