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#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1650 on: September 17, 2019, 03:42:38 AM »
question  to Wesley:
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I used a stack of rings cores  wound it with 48 turns and added a parallel cap of 0.2 uf. 200nf
and fed it with 40khz resonance max amplitude placed one scope channel across the coil and stabbed each turn of the winding in turn
hoping to get a phase shift up the coil but all that changed was the amplitude.
Any idea's or what am I doing wrong ?

This  require
slow wave velocity
https://www.britannica.com/science/wave-velocity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase_velocity

https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/369046/transfer-function-of-phase-change-controlled-with-capacitance
:
for capacitive reactive  circuits.

RLC Circuits (5 of 14) Inductive Reactance; Phase Shift, Phasor Diagrams, Frequency, An Explanation

RLC Circuits (13 of 14) Summary of RLC Circuit Analysis

Phase Shift in AC Signals

Build A Simple Phase Shift Circuit
this should be easy enough
basically  without going to anything difficult
it is behavior of capacitive reactance and inductive reactance in the  same circuit.
and that can be shown easily on Smith Chart
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_chart

other example:
from practical stand point
1.If you feed two coils with the same signal   but number  of turns is  different  than you get phase shift
2 If you feed straight piece of wire and  coil from the same signal  than you get phase shift
3. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in series than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
4. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but one coil has capacitor in parallel  than you get phase shift ( however  F  of resonance will not be the same)
5. if you feed  two exact coils with  the same signal but pitch ( space  between winds is not the same)  than you get phase shift
and so on.....
6. take two coils but  one of  the coils will have few winds in  CCW  you  will get   phase shift

hint:
1.wind two windings  on the former  with   the same number of winds.like bifilar.
2.connect two ends  together at the bottom and two  ends together   from the other side   of assembly.
3.  feed it from the same generator
4. now try to short   few winds  of  one of the coils with piece of wire and look at scope.
you will see two signals separated by delay.
if you carefully  chose the <short point> you  will regulate phase.
but to  see  that you need to adjust frequency !!!!!

one possible explanation out of many:

if there is difference between two coils in length  of the wire  than one signal from one of the coils will arrive faster than the signal from second coil.
the signal from  the coil with more  winds is called slow wave

Wesley
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 08:52:42 PM by stivep »

#### kolbacict

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1651 on: September 17, 2019, 05:52:38 PM »
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However  that device or rather   mechanical concept  of two pancake shape coiled springs ( mechanical watch  springs)
I assumed that these were not coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1652 on: September 17, 2019, 07:57:50 PM »
It doesn't matter .
Quote
coil springs, but trajectories of motion of some mass.
is
-the classical mechanics.

Wesley
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 09:02:38 PM by stivep »

#### groot

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1653 on: September 18, 2019, 12:25:20 AM »
Standing wave and resonance - two required conditions to send energy via surface wave.
Do we have standing wave at resonance in series LC circuit ( tesla coil ) or
Magnet wire is sold in spools of aprox. length. Unfortunately i have wind my coils without
making a measurement. Now this two "same" coils are not same at all.
How can i choose top load capacitance to get all the numbers right.
"Approximately" 500 feet 25awg wire and coil  has  3.89mH  . I tried to measure  ohms and
compare it to online calculators but its not taking me anywhere.

Thx

#### lancaIV

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1654 on: September 18, 2019, 02:14:01 PM »

#### forest

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1655 on: September 18, 2019, 02:32:31 PM »

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1656 on: September 19, 2019, 03:52:43 AM »
To #2897 :
A  lot of good interesting  links I'll  try  to   respond to  it  little later
Wesley

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1657 on: October 02, 2019, 12:57:48 AM »
subiect:SLOW WAVE
reason:- slow wave can explain why Tariel Kapanadze  coil is so small
-make Tesla coil smaller even though the frequency  for given 1/4 y is very low

source:

factors making Tesla coil electrically small yet still performing:

-slow wave
-CW and CCW winding
- resonant cavities/ half rings ( this part is controversial to some of you even if it was  explained by Dr Corum)

stored
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Wesley

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1658 on: October 03, 2019, 02:59:45 AM »

video  says:
5kW  after battery is  disconnected  two upper coils are used to (ionizate)/ ionize  air and than  coil  at the bottom
is receiving - converting "this" energy  and  delivering it to the load -the lightbulb
On the left hand side we have box that has unspecified  role and content.
Device  is close  in its look (only)  to hydroelectric device of Tariel Kapanadze.

Note:I only made short summary  of  the  wording used  in the  video.
I don't in  any  way try to  provide  confirmation   or try to  deny  any facts stated  in video.

Wesley

#### DavidWolff

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1659 on: October 10, 2019, 01:40:05 PM »
Hi, Wesley, I found this on 'the my nik forum' re Delomorto thread some of the stuff looks interesting but i'm having some trouble finding some of the characters (hieroglyphics) are difficult to translate for me (tut) as they are not on the google keyboard

any chance you can have a quick look at the ones with the red rings round them please
kind regards.
Dave

Ref  http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48 PS goto this site at your own risk

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1660 on: October 12, 2019, 08:31:41 PM »

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1661 on: October 12, 2019, 08:44:08 PM »

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1662 on: October 12, 2019, 09:15:34 PM »
Hi, Wesley, I found this on 'the my nik forum' re Delomorto thread some of the stuff looks interesting but i'm having some trouble finding some of the characters (hieroglyphics) are difficult to translate for me (tut) as they are not on the google keyboard

any chance you can have a quick look at the ones with the red rings round them please
kind regards.
Dave

Ref  http://freeenergylt.narod.ru/index/0-48 PS goto this site at your own risk
Requested translation  is below
Wesley

#### DavidWolff

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1663 on: October 13, 2019, 01:03:53 AM »
Hi Wesley and thank you for that.
I'm still a little confused as to what the language is exactly

Also, some might find this of use although winding the coil might not be a one would expect it to be wound.

Катушка L1и L2 намотана на каркасе d40, содержат no 40 витков множльного ировода 1мм

The coil L1 and L2 is wound on a d40 frame, they contain no 40 turns of a multiplier of 1 mm

В схеме нужно крен12 эаменuмь на крен8б цлц любую

Рассмоянце молько

#### stivep

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##### Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1664 on: October 13, 2019, 02:17:25 AM »
Катушка L1и L2 намотана на каркасе d40, содержат no 40 витков множльного ировода 1мм
coil L1 and L2 winded on  coil  former  d=40mm  has  40  winds  stranded wire 1mm

В схеме нужно крен12 эаменuмь на крен8б цлц любую
you need to make change  relay 12 change to   relay B6 or any other relay  working with 12 V

Рассмоянце молько
Рассмоянце- there is no such word
молько- milk
Most likely  this is slang but you  made mistake in first word
Wesley