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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2805 on: July 13, 2019, 03:03:15 AM »
Any word on grounding.
Do we need a long rod ?
Is it important to keep it all ( top load , coil , ground rod) in one vertical straight line??
Thank You

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2806 on: July 15, 2019, 02:55:04 PM »
question  directed  to  Wesley:
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I do not understand why you put so much energy into this VIZIV
Wesley's Answer:
Be honest I'm tired of explaining it to each and  every individual again and again...
You want it  to be on your table and at best  with the  spoon   operated automatically.
short and simple explanation:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg536449/#msg536449

Viziv transmitter(Tx)   transmits  to  interface, and receiver  can (but doesn't have to   look  like Tx. )
The form of  this  transmitting, is transmission of surface wave  known as Zenneck Wave in
interface air/earth  - that interface is  at the same time one of walls of Schumann waveguide.

Schumann waveguide  has two spherical walls. Ionosphere and air.

So Viziv uses the same interface for its energy  to be send from  point A to  B and
Schumann waveguide   that is full of  energy fluctuation creates the same surface wave  in  the  same  interface, naturally.

The difference  is in properties such us frequency of resonance , phase, and so on .
Viziv is in business and must make money so J.Corum from Viziv  will not  advertise such phenomena.

and because  the receiver  is   more forgivable in its form factor , and can  look like Kapanadze, the  situation is even  less comfortable to  Viziv.
That is why is so little publicity around it.

Wesley
« Last Edit: July 15, 2019, 08:25:31 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2807 on: July 15, 2019, 11:22:01 PM »

....:
(name of  the author of  the quote is not going to be published
you can be sure  that Wesley is  the person you can trust )
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I've been in contact with Georgia University staff in Tbilissi
so it turns out the Tabatadze family were the inventor of the device.
The Kapanadze family just stole the effect, maybe improved not sure
but what is certain via my network in republic of Georgia, it was G. Tabatadze
who first made the prototype which appear to extract energy from AIR
.

Wesley's response to that  conversation:
At first I have my  own intel  about Kapanadze.
simple answer:
Energy that fluctuates inside of Schumann waveguide*  is enclosed between boundaries* the  ionosphere  and earth.
And to be more  accurate  earth is lossy medium* absorbing some of  energy from standing wave*  inside  the waveguide.*

each   of asterisks * - marks physical phenomena  -the  description of which  should be known to you already.


Medium*  that is next to   earth is air.
And Air has different dielectric properties* than   earth.

That difference constitutes presence  of interface air/earth*
that difference  is also mandatory  for interface* to exist

one of the futures of interface*  is ability to provide "shelter" to surface wave*
that surface wave is there in  TM mode* .

two  forms of its existence there:
1. as  potential  energy* if there is  no load (  no energy is lost)
2. as  <<"kinetic"*>> in its form value of  energy - (if there is load*  energy is consumed)

That is exactly  the same for Viziv and for   natural  process of  Schumann Waveguide*
The difference is  that My two crews did   play with it and  you didn't.
Part  of  that testing belong to  Dr. Hans

Dr Hans is good man, but he has temptations and  moods.
and I respect that
As far as me. : I DON"T CARE..
That is one of the reasons I didn't publish yet  book  for housewives   how to  put together   shelf from IKEA
and how to  build FE  device  based   on  Schumann waveguide.

Wesley


 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2808 on: July 16, 2019, 03:29:46 AM »

So Viziv uses the same interface for its energy  to be send from  point A to  B and
Schumann waveguide   that is full of  energy fluctuation creates the same surface wave  in  the  same  interface, naturally.

The difference  is in properties such us frequency of resonance , phase, and so on .
Viziv is in business and must make money so J.Corum from Viziv  will not  advertise such phenomena.

...


I dubt if Corum don't know about such phenomena...

This is a text cited in his patent "Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media"
http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology
It talks about free energy, but with terms from Tom Bearden, Evans or Dollard that are not so convicement for me. Why he put this annonimus text?

Also he have publicated the Infinite Energy Magazine, ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy_(magazine) )
Corum et al., Goodness, Q and Power Factor in Electrical Science and Machinery, Infinite Energy Magazine, Jan./Feb. 2010, pp. 1-17, vol. 15, No. 89, New Energy Foundation, Concord, NH, USA.

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« Reply #2809 on: July 16, 2019, 05:28:06 AM »
I dubt if Corum don't know about such phenomena...
http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology
It talks about free energy, but with terms from Tom Bearden, Evans or Dollard that are not so convicement for me. Why he put this annonimus text?

This has  nothing to do with J Corum.
and yet he might be  aware about phenomena  in question.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What a madness.
Thomas Minderle
September 22, 2013
http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology
mental hospital for  delusional paranoia.
is sending me to  Scalar Physics Research Center
another section  of  mental hospital for more heavy cases.
Based on keyword montalk and his first and  last name
I went to : https://www.metal-archives.com/
The  key  word used in his articles often is word montalk  used  instead of his  first and last  name
however he put a lot of  work  into his activity including spiritual and aliens
https://montalk.net/
One of elegant but only in its form  examples  of his work is: http://montalk.net/files/fringeknowledgeWEB.pdf
in contrast there is another one from field of physics. http://scalarphysics.com/resources/thomas_minderle/thomas_minderle-a_brief_introduction_to_scalar_physics.pdf

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Objections  based on   http://montalk.net/notes/tesla-wireless-technology.
1.
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is not transverse EM waves, but longitudinal.

 Wesley: there is  no/not and cannot be -any form of longitudinal  wave in  quantum world of wave.,
2.
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Interestingly, because the magnetic field components are absent, the Poynting vector (E x B) is zero and hence such an antenna does not actually broadcast energy

  Wesley: it is polarized TM-  transverse magnetic wave  that  makes the  trick.
3.
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Tesla meant by his “radiant energy” (radiant as in radius rather than brilliant) being sound waves in electrified air.

 And here I must give up.
analysis of the   train of nonsense is frustrating...
the whole article  is  garbage


Tom Bearden is another  heavy case but not as bad as Thomas.
He has a brain and experience but he is from  the  old school. 

 
Eric Dollard is the most deserving sympathy from all of  them.
In a way  I like this lost  soul,  homeless  by lack of adaptation.
the great brain to be or to never be again.
the driven by emotions and used as  a tool  piece of sentimental value
Made by others who  wants to  get  some buck easy way

by using him as an "icon and the  thinker  -  Eric Dollard"

   

Dear saturnio  you mentioned  patent  of this guy Thomas Minderle
give  me patent number please.
The whole patent office must of laugh till today  if there is any.



Wesley

 
« Last Edit: July 19, 2019, 07:18:50 PM by stivep »

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« Reply #2810 on: July 16, 2019, 09:13:57 PM »
For some of you it is important to know
how to   select the right information  leading you to
independent from me successful  replication of  phenomena
described  by me.
The effect is  your own FE device .

1. read  about Corum brothers  and go to every possible piece of each of the brothers publications
2. make notes from  every piece of information explaining and  progressing you.
3. compare  that  with what was already published by me. 
4. find pros and cons by questioning my finding rather than accepting.
I'm just limited by  respect to  the  people  who contributed but want their contribution  to  stay private.

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Some links and quotes  as example: 
https://www.integrityresearchinstitute.org/Members/IRIANNUAL2016.pdf
section: History and Development of Theory picture #1
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we find that only 425 million kW are needed on site to power our entire country.
This would still leave 2.6 billion kW for the rest of the world, which only needs 1.7 billion kW (by 2001 US DOE estimates).
In the US, out of the total electrical power generated using wire transmission (about 31 Quads), a full 2/3 is totally
wasted in “conversion losses.



i will continue so check   for  updates
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2811 on: July 17, 2019, 04:20:20 AM »

Dear saturnio  you mentioned  patent  of this guy Thomas Minderle
give  me patent number please.
The whole patent office must of laugh till today  if there is any.. 

Wesley

No, haven't mentioned any patent from this guy. I have said that his article was cited in J Corum patent and that was strange for me.

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« Reply #2813 on: July 17, 2019, 01:15:22 PM »
At first : Wesley, you can ever delete my poste  !
Now to your given numbers :
the iono-/magnetosphere is a Joule source.
What is these spheres the average( max./ min). temperature and chemical elements content ?
What has been the cause to stop oversurface atomic/nuclear tests  ? Only based by the radio-active fall-out
or has been also another more important reazon ?
Are Professor Rauscher given example numbers " equal rights" related  ? " rest of the world"
2,6 billions KW divided by 300 millions U.S. habitants and the "rest" dividing with "8 billions human earth habitants" ?
U.S.A. : ~ 3,75 % from total human earth habitants
When the 8 billions "Rest" demands also an "democratic" 8,67 KW/ capita  consume ?
India quote,China quote,......... !
Speaking about savings,private consumption :
Stevens Institute https://surehouse.org/the-house/      up to - 90% by same comfort ( + less 2/3 distribution losts)
and by same/less costs
International movement : the 2000/1500 Watt society
decreasing overconsume to give potential to other their low consume increase
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F2000-Watt-Gesellschaft
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2Fspiegelspecial%2Fd-9157474.html
1,5 KW x 8766 h =~  13000/13150 KWh per year
1995 : China primary energy consumption 800 Watt  per capita ,Bangladesh 80 Watt
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« Reply #2814 on: July 17, 2019, 01:48:21 PM »
At first : Wesley, you can ever delete my poste  !
I like and respect you lancaIV, but some of posting of  anyone, not related close, enough will be removed, especially when
something must go....for others to  see  better.
Please contribute for benefit of others
but  someone must clean the space and keep  it organized .
This place is not a chat room  ,
it is my notebook with public access, only the most  vital information should be hold here.
and your or mine temporary mood  is not important to be preserved.

 
Wesley
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« Reply #2816 on: July 19, 2019, 07:49:24 PM »
http://www.nzdl.org/gsdlmod?e=d-00000-00---off-0cdl--00-0----0-10-0---0---0direct-10---4-------0-1l--11-en-50---20-about---00-0-1-00-0--4----0-0-11-10-0utfZz-8-00&cl=CL2.14&d=HASH0cf796676d1abfb3fa69e6.6.3&gt=1
T.E. Bearden is first part of the link.I"ll place  it  in  garbage can.
New Energy Technology (PACE, 1990 just forget it - business as usual  but with long hands No respectable organization   would  disorient  purposely a reader unless is good for  the business.
 
At the same page  we see referral of  J Corum
that should not be  mistaken with  the first part it has nothing to do  with it.
For these who are  confused:

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A scalar wave is a purported type of electromagnetic wave that works outside physics as we know it.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scalar_wave

So only Corum  part of the article is valuable and entertaining.
Wesley

 

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« Reply #2817 on: July 19, 2019, 08:58:53 PM »
thank you for the links:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=39&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19220710&CC=GB&NR=157263A&KC=A#
figure 11: rectangular Tesla coil

patent  speculates around regular electrostatic motor. and fig 11  is the stator part of such  motor.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Plauson
1919 document-text

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuenergy.org%2Fgewinnung-und-verwertung-der-atmospharischen-elektrizitat-deutsch%2F
" non-ionizing radiation" as source for  "thermal-ionizing radiation effect" Diathermie pseudo-HF by ELF

interesting but not applicable  and  that is why  was  not commercialized
Wesley

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« Reply #2818 on: July 20, 2019, 05:06:43 AM »
One  of Tesla coil assembly  is   magnifier.
J. Corum from Viziv
made  whole investigative testing  based  on original Tesla's Colorado  Springs diary.
when we go to :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coil
We read ABOUT  Extra Coil
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Three coil, triple-resonant, or magnifier circuits - These are circuits with three coils, based on Tesla's "magnifying transmitter"
circuit which he began experimenting with sometime before 1898 and installed in his Colorado Springs lab 1899-1900, and patented in 1902.
[36][37][38] They consist of a two coil air-core step-up transformer similar to the Tesla transformer, with the secondary connected to a third
coil not magnetically coupled to the others, called the "extra" or "resonator" coil, which is series-fed and resonates with its own capacitance.
The presence of three energy-storing tank circuits gives this circuit more complicated resonant behavior. It is the subject of research,
but has been used in few practical applications.
the  picture of such assembly  is   here:
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.jpg
The same article  makes us understand how  to calculate easy  way
Low  Frequency assembly

called: multiple resonance networks operated as Tesla coil like devices
giving  us
(or  multiple resonance network with distributed load capacitance)
and  that is the Tesla  Extra coil function
http://www.coe.ufrj.br/~acmq/tesla/mres6.html
http://www.padrak.com/vesperman/A_Technical_Analysis_of_Tesla%27s_Extra_Coil_6.24.14.pdf

Important  is  to understand  tuning of Tesla Coil to  resonance is critical facor
when dealing with
Viziv energy transfer from point A to point B using earth/air interface
called  interface.
as it is shown  here:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Simple_SSTC.gif
and here:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Tesla-coil_eq.gif/260px-Tesla-coil_eq.gif
complex of  capacitive  reactive series and parallel LC circuts could  b e found when equivalent circuit of Tesla Coil is  analyzed.
all  of that can be approximated  to one single capacitive reactive C2:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Tesla_coil_circuit.svg/500px-Tesla_coil_circuit.svg.png

Again please remember: 
that although  character of my notebook here is mostly analytical
I included  Viziv tower and technology as necessary  step  needed to be  practiced  before you  go to part that
looks  exactly the same  however it is  now extraction of energy from Schuman Waveguide


And that's what Kapanadze did.
The worse of all is coming and you simply don't see it yet.
I'll explain it in  the next  post
Wesley





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« Reply #2819 on: July 20, 2019, 05:09:28 AM »
Before  I will scare you  some information about  these two  definitely unique  individuals
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mall/corum_bib.htm
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