Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[ramset]

a movie here from Geographic society ,mentions Zenneck waves at 6 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM
from topic about thermionic tech and pending public release [ambient harvesting with energy densities to industrial use levels with daisy chaining , mentioned around 23.40  min mark
 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html

please remove if inappropriate or already mentioned [so much info got buried here]
respectfully Chet K

[stivep]

a movie here from Geographic society ,mentions Zenneck waves at 6 min mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=368&v=wFiW2lqdnlM
from topic about thermionic tech and pending public release [ambient harvesting with energy densities to industrial use levels with daisy chaining , mentioned around 23.40  min mark
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21105-nano-boxx-24-7-electric-power-using-only-ambient-heat.html

respectfully Chet K

Thank you for the link Chet  K
let me know when you  need  the cryogenic flask.

Wesley

[AlienGrey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODYy-ifTu1M

[r2fpl]

Fizikman

[stivep]

 Naval Weapon Center about  it.https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4
Wesley

[AlienGrey]

''WITHOUT PREJUDICE''

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531591/#msg531591
Quote
The burden of proof is only on your side.
You claim that the Kapanadze machine is overunity, so give the proof,
Wesley's  response:

I have never said in my life that overunity exists.
No, but does this video you produced prove it does?
end of quote.
((Tariel kapanadze HV generating circuit SHGS)))
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no ofence but can we just kick all this tyersome stuff down the loo  and flush it please do!
Well, it looks like a video showing a working device for me!
Also did anyone notice >>>  THE FULL MOON? (depicts the end of hostilities) <<<
Date                   Time                   Native American
February 19   10:53 A.M.   SNOW Full Moon

[Ansis]

Let"s think different.
We know the Ground connection give us the "Amplification" in Radio therms.
It means, we connect good Ground in our Radio station and we can get much better "signal".
Every one knows that.
But, there is "selected" range of that effect.
In GHz diapasone we don't need Ground, because we use our parabolic dish surface like reflection surface/ground.
IT MEANS, THE GROUND CAN BE USEFULL ONLY AT LIMITED SPECTRUM OF WAVES.
I want ask real DXers here, which part of frequency diapasone is most dependant from "ground antenna".
Thank you!

[AlienGrey]

if you look on Eric Dollard's youtube site he and the other feller Tom Brown ? made a video about it.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E210US91082G91208&p=youtube+eric+dollard+tom+brown

Thank you!

[Ansis]

Maybe Kapanadze use Ground to charge Battery inside his box?
Maybe Direct Current is the answer?
If LongWaves is hunngry for Ground and we know AC of 50Hz is dependant from Ground(it is main reason for stealing electricity from Grid companies of HiVoltage from 220V in East, it is in East because of dependency of Voltage potencial for better efficiency of steeling!!!). Maybe there is some anomaly? Maybe there is potencial(from or 1 point), from which start avalanche SuperMega Stealing?
Be free to think like that, because we are investigators!

[AlienGrey]

         :   Guys: Why don't you discuss Zenneck waves and related technologies, just in Wesley's thread, instead of spreading these discussion over onto threads like the Dally thread, that has nothing to do with wireless transfer of electricity over distances, at a cost to you.  Which is not going to be free energy, at all, nor similar to the Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan type of devices discussed and replicated there.  As it looks like no one or very few guys are all that interested in wireless transfer distracting us, with unrelated technologies.   I just wanted to answer to Ansis, sorry to add the above. I probably should have done it in the Dally thread instead.
But, the idea is to separate the different technologies into their own threads, if possible, as they don't work the same.

Yes Nick it should ''junk'' should be deleted and then we might be able to create an index to find things

[F6FLT]

Maybe Kapanadze use Ground to charge Battery inside his box?
Maybe Direct Current is the answer?
If LongWaves is hunngry for Ground and we know AC of 50Hz is dependant from Ground(it is main reason for stealing electricity from Grid companies of HiVoltage from 220V in East, it is in East because of dependency of Voltage potencial for better efficiency of steeling!!!). Maybe there is some anomaly? Maybe there is potencial(from or 1 point), from which start avalanche SuperMega Stealing?
Be free to think like that, because we are investigators!

LongWaves is not "hunngry for Ground", it's just a question of engineering, not of principle. In any case for long waves, the second pole is obtain by a long wire. But at 50Hz, we are no more in the "long wave" range (30 Khz to 300 KHz), we are in the very very very long wave range (6000 Km) so that we can't have an efficient "second pole". We are no more in radio frequencies, and only in the near field (field directly linked to nearby conductors, almost not propagating). It's almost impossible to produce efficient propagating waves at theses frequencies.

[stivep]

PART 6.
SURFACE WAVES:  WHAT ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY INTERESTING?

For us  understanding surface wave is the key to electrical energy for free.
When we talking about Schumann waveguide  it is not important what is energy level 
at fundamental 7.83Hz  Schumann frequency  and its harmonics.
We only need to remember that  wee need to be at lowest Schumann frequency harmonics we  are physically able to be.
when we  go with frequency of our Rx,Tx pair or  just Receiver,  into 18kHz or lower than  our reactive losses are  the smallest.
more  is explained in article:
SURFACE WAVES:  WHAT ARE THEY? WHY ARE THEY INTERESTING?
https://www.armms.org/media/uploads/1259319847.pdf
and less interesting but useful article :
Isolation of the Zenneck Surface Wave
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.651.4359&rep=rep1&type=pdf


Please remember that experience with Zenneck wave as A to B  transmission will be needed to
extract energy from Schuman waveguide.
Mechanism is almost the same.
Naturally   present surface wave in the interface   has different frequency ,  phase  and needs polarization
and impedance match at the receiver Rx  side. ( your FE).   

Tariel Kapanadze and his clones ( SR193, Akula, Ruslan) used structure   that I name active probe.
the term Active probe is used in patents of James Corum  and Corum Brothers.

A  surface  wave  requires  an  interface  between  two  media  as  it  exists  partially  in  both.
Therefore  if  the  electric  field  is  unable  to  penetrate  into  one  of  the  media,  a  surface  wave
cannot  propagate.
 This  could  therefore  imply  that  the  skin  depth  is  proportional  to  the
magnitude  of  surface  wave  produced  and  indirectly  proportional  to  the  magnitude  of  space
wave produced with an exponential dependence.
It is from this concept that the definition of the ‘surface wave region’ was derived.

Zenneck Wave  does  not radiate in Far Field and is in form  of TEM in TM mode



Wesley

[stivep]

There are plenty of mechanisms allowing  to build  electrically  short 1/1000  of lambda resonating structures  such as  Kapanadze and its  clones coil.

mkjekyll contribution  is: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3083364

This contribution is important as  explanation of means of electrically short
coil (caduceus  like coil structure.)
Means of bifilar winding with proper spacing
have been explained   in the language  of 1963 antenna science, but for us
important is  to point art   of  physical application.
Electrically Short  HV  part of Tesla Coil is Kapanadze coil.
Small size is our goal.
You retain similar to full size structure  parameters  such as  desired frequency , amplitude, impedance, and able to maneuver proper polarization.
What one must understand is:
Kapanadze trick with  9V battery can  ( but not must) be seen as coupling into energy of another system
By activating active probe that is "immersed" into that system.
By trying to keep language in   level of average reader  I 'm in must to use  words that I try mark as
".. " or ( ..) or _{active probe.
But I'll try to use active probe word with  proper explanation.( explained in sections 1-5)}



Much easier to explain it , would be to use example from classical mechanics, however
it will be only graphical form  that in the sense can not serve as quantum  related.

Let's say you  have slightly  vibrating  hot water pipe, and you clamp it is certain point.
You may see that   pipe start to resonate mechanically with quite increased  amplitude.
Only energy to find the right spot for the clamp, was delivered by  You.
You do not need to pay for pump and water.
At the end of the cycle, of the pump action the motor rotation slows and vibration of the pipe, can reach its damaging maximum.

 
Active probe operates based  on the same logical concept:
Lets   place  energy  that is paid by someone  but not you, on the same level as  natural energy that is
created by nature  and is not paid by you.

Wesley

[stivep]

PART7

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1.This is very easy explanation to almost every  nontechnical reader  of basic  antenna futures.
https://www.pulseelectronics.com/antenna_basic_concepts/

2.  Tesla coil  is made out of two coils:
a. low voltage coil ( usually at the bottom of structure)
b. HV  coil( usually inside  of low voltage coil)
- is air/ ( can be vacuum) based resonant transformer.
   (can be called  air transformer)
   (some of variations of Tesla coil can have  more than  one low or/and high voltage coils)
2a    If we place inside of low voltage  coil, the coil (HV) that is in length  shorter than 
        corresponding to given frequency required physical  diameter  (e.g Tariel Kapanadze coil)
        it means that we compromised  some of parameters  of  _aperture of suitable HV coil.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antenna_aperture
        This may become very much  positive and fulfilling our expectations, as we care only about  certain 
        properties ( certain effect) of such antenna or coil manifesting its usefulness.

2b.  Antenna Efficiency       
     

The efficiency of an antenna is a ratio of the power delivered to the antenna relative to the power radiated from the antenna. 
       A high efficiency antenna has most of the power present at the antenna's input radiated away. 
       A low efficiency antenna has most of the power absorbed as losses within the antenna, or reflected away due to impedance mismatch.

       However this quote from above can be very much  misleading .
       You may  have, very, very small antenna ( 5cm/2inch long)   perfectly resonating at 1/100 of y(lambda)
       and full size   antenna  (10m long/ 393.700787 inch) perfectly resonating at 1/4 of y.
       The efficiency   of both antennas is different. But both are  performing  well.
       It is the conditions( very specific parameters that we may be interested with) that matters .

       In our case we are interested in antenna  that is small in size and we do not care much about losses created by small size
       of an antenna
       http://www.antenna-theory.com/basics/efficiency.php
2c.  In our case (2b)  we have in mind passive or active structure.
      if passive antenna ( in form of e.g Tesla Coil) is used  - it is  used as Rx not Tx antenna.
      We care not much about efficiency of the antenna as we assume that in given point
      we have plenty  of energy for that antenna  to resonate with.
2d. In our case (2b) if we use  active antenna ( also known as active probe) than
      you need to read my notes about active probe in
      mkjekyll contribution
      https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg531943/#msg531943
      and everything that is related to active probe in PART 1 to 6   


3. Such structure does not deffer much from  typical  antennas in regards to:
a- ability to be build as resonating structure at 1/2 y , 1/4y  1/100y 1/1000y and so on.
b- ability to accept delivered to its input frequency that makes existing structure   to resonate at  1/2 y , 1/4y  1/100y 1/1000y
    and at its harmonics _{( important).}


4.
    you must first resonate than radiate.
    this is mandatory requirement to everything possible in air transformers employed  as " let go to all of it " ( passage) of  signal.

5. Receiving antenna can be build  exactly the same  as transmitting  antenna .
   Rx- receiver      ( abbreviation )
   Tx- transmitter  ( abbreviation )




Wesley

[stivep]

<sub>PART 8

Each lightning burst creates electromagnetic waves that begin to circle around
Earth captured between Earth's surface and a boundary about 60 miles up.
Some of the waves - if they have just the right wavelength
- combine, increasing in strength, to create a repeating atmospheric heartbeat known as Schumann resonance.
Wesley</sub>