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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1146301 times)


Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1051 on: January 15, 2019, 09:21:28 AM »
Dear Void. Corona  seen on conductor in Tesla coil has nothing to do with dielectric.
There was no single piece of wire or any conductor.

Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...


lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1052 on: January 15, 2019, 09:36:27 AM »
Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...
Wow, I thought several hours before , not that I do not know this papers,  but reading it more concentrated :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken+hayashibara&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=

f.e.:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4701675A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19871020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
60 W : (130 V x 200 A) arc discharge current ( which makes part of the inrush current kind )
60 Wnominal average : 26000 VA peak

Voltage divider,Frequency divider : Pulse divider
impulse spark gap : Space-Time calculation f.e. electrophorese like EDM or arc welding or Plasma welding

Maths world "Raum-Zeit/Space-Time" : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartesisches_Koordinatensystem
          applied f.e. 4d- nano-chirurgy by C.N.C. and in future EPROM based

Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1053 on: January 15, 2019, 10:55:39 AM »
Excellent video Void and the music! 8)
Maybe this will help rid this thread of this LED bulb lighting nonsense and get back to ways to light Kapanadze style 1KW bulbs with free energy.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. Thanks for watching mate. You would think that such an experiment will help to dispel some myths,
but that is not typically how things go around here unfortunately.  ;D We will see what Wesley has to say
about this experiment and the conclusions I draw from it. :)


stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1054 on: January 15, 2019, 11:27:09 AM »

Thank you for your video and your time.
anything what you say  at any frequency would be noted in literature as  this material is used in American government test facilities.

In  Product Data Sheet on the top you see material listed:
Quadrant EPP TIVAR® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
I explained in  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113
and in
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118

Material used in experiment had nothing to do with charcoal or any conductive  material under any circumstances.
so again Void :
It is  the type of insulator that never becomes conductive
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All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
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the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley

forest

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1055 on: January 15, 2019, 05:18:22 PM »
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1056 on: January 15, 2019, 05:45:04 PM »
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?
Well what happened to the German guy Otto as a matter of interest?

lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1057 on: January 15, 2019, 05:59:07 PM »
Not a german guy, but with first name Otto   :
https://www.google.com/search?q=otto+tpu-ecd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Otto Sabljaric :  R. I. P .

NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1058 on: January 15, 2019, 06:23:48 PM »
   Otto died a few years ago. Unfortunately. He may have been Serbian, but I'm not sure.
   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
   What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.

lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1059 on: January 15, 2019, 06:39:59 PM »
Winfried Otto Schumann
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann


https://www.google.com/search?q=schumann+frequenz&client=firefox-b&oq=schumann+frequenz&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3..0l5.2996.8303.0.9122.9.4.0.5.5.0.236.724.0j3j1.4.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.9.868.NgDB960H3Ls

Theta-Welle
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=
f. e.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=24&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871201&CC=US&NR=4710655A&KC=A#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890530&CC=US&NR=4834701A&KC=A#

                           ~ NLP : Neuro-Linguistic-Programming
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programminghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wds0JSpKtpg

                                                  also : propaganda ( pagare : to pay)
         sublime(s) selling instrument during shopping or by radio-/ tele-vision
                                   " product placement" /  mind occupation


https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+kazumi+masaki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-bm

                                                                      EEG and EKG
https://www.google.com/search?q=brain+machine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

At last,  as ultra-mind and ultra-fast-learning  machine ( cheaper than a ultra-learning curse ) :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neurophone-energy.com%2F
DIY- plans in the internet- universe to down-load

Mind maping : left brain ware and right brain ware seriell or parallel work
 + v. Klausewitz and Kaizen : cold economy war against the CONSTITUTION and CIVIL RIGHTS
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Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1060 on: January 15, 2019, 06:55:10 PM »
   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   
What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.

Hi Nick. I have not so far seen anything at all that gives any compelling indication that Kapanadze
may be making use of Schumann resonance waves at the surface of the Earth or similar. Kapanadze
himself may not know at all where the energy is coming from.  He may just know what to do to
make a working device based on some info someone passed on to him at some point, or possibly from
some obscure document he came across, and possibly just not know where the extra energy is coming from.
(Assuming it really works as claimed and as demonstrated by Kapanadze).

Sergh

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« Reply #1061 on: January 15, 2019, 07:18:59 PM »
This is another piece of disinformation because of the minority opinion.
Previously, another vocal individual has voiced the same concern. I was trying to comment but I finally gave up. Every real antenna engineer knows what's wrong with your concerns #1 and #3.
Can you read these articles from independent engineers?

http://www.vlf.it/kurt/elf.html
http://www.longrangelocators.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18969
https://jwcn-eurasipjournals.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s13638-018-1157-7

 If you are a electronics engineer, you need to understand how low the level of energy is.

lancaIV

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« Reply #1062 on: January 15, 2019, 08:05:37 PM »
Wesley,
if there has not to be the dependance from one frequency bandgap/bandwidth solely, what would you use as total receiveable radiation spectrum " diaphragm" ?
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/alexander-graham-bell-patents-the-telephone
Electro-magneto-acoustics : opto ( parabol,  hyperbol)

           dormant bonanzas : WIPO-archive

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=&IN=Alexander+Graham+bell&CPC=&IC=
Bauer, ......., Fessenden :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Fessenden&IN=&CPC=&IC=
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reginald_Fessenden
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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1063 on: January 15, 2019, 08:25:27 PM »

Schumann waveguide should not be seen as Schumann resonances per say .
Schumann  Resonance only allows you to send  signal from point A to point B without significant losses.
That includes Ground Wave, Surface Wave, and traditional  electromagnetic  communication.
The guided wave travels along  curvature of the earth.
And that is  about all in this area.
Corum Bross included that information in their patents.
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The novelty  is  extraction energy  from that Schumann Waveguide.
So  in the big picture there are two alternatives:
1- Tariel  knows about Surface Wave but he  had no idea  that he deals with Surface Wave.
Theoretically to make Tx and Rx for such assembly  is about 1 to 3 days.
And for these who did it before  1 to 3 hours.( with help of two, three people in physical assembly)

1a- testing and tuning takes  few hours to few days but less than 3 days for starters.

1b-
There is indication that in the island presentation light in the motel  dimmed significantly.
Tariel was across  the water on the island. Part of his crew was in the motel.
That fact was  absolutely proven by my very credible  sources.
However we may say that it was purely coincidental.
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2- Tariel knowing technique of Zenneck  transmission went further  up and extracted energy from Schumann  Waveguide
That is in theory even simpler than transmission of Zenneck Wave  as you do not need transmitter.
Each lightning strike  creates avalanche of  lightning strikes around the earth.
Quote
High quality lightning data has only recently become available, but the data indicates that lightning occurs on average 44 times every second over the entire Earth, making a total of about 1.4 billion flashes per year.
All  of them must dissipate in the earth.

Wesley
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lancaIV

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« Reply #1064 on: January 15, 2019, 09:11:41 PM »
Hi Wesley, thanks for the comments.
As I see it, the problem is IMO that you have not said or demonstrated anything so far that
would seem to lend concrete support to the idea that low frequency waveforms at the Earth's surface
are being tapped into as the source of the extra energy. I am not saying that idea is necessarily
wrong, just that I don't think you have presented anything which seems to give real support to this idea
of yours. Why do I say 'low frequency' above? Because Schumann resonance frequencies are supposed to
be quite low frequency.

It will always come back to the same point with anyone anywhere (not just here) in regards to these type of ideas.
If a person can't show anything concrete to back up the notion that energy is being extracted from the Earth's surface,
then people can only take it as an as yet unsupported idea. That's my point of view anyway.
Related Schumann frequency spectrum :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.planetware.de%2Ftune_in%2Fschumann.html