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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 863652 times)

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1050 on: January 15, 2019, 03:48:12 AM »
Hi Wesley my friend, I did already quote you this here earlier, I believe, directly from the Tivar product literature, but here it is again:
"The incorporation of an effective carbon black grade renders this material electrostatic dissipative properties."

As I said before, it has carbon in it to give the material its *conductive* anti-static properties.
If the material wasn't conductive to high voltages it would be useless as an anti-static material for floor mats or whatever else. :)

Again, as I have explained, the material may well be plastic coated to give it a very high resistance to lower voltages
(rendering it as an insulator as a floor mat for example if someone accidentally touches voltages such as 120V or 220V),
but high voltages will easily jump across the thin insulating plastic coating and dissipate through the conductive carbon
in its interior, allowing it to work as an effective anti-static material.  Those Tivar blocks in strong (high voltage) electric fields
are almost like blocks of conducting metal. I would guess that if you puncture the Tivar material with some pointy multimeter probes
and measure the resistance that way that it may well register as a quite low resistance, not that I am asking you to damage
your Tivar blocks if you don't want to. :) All the best...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1051 on: January 15, 2019, 04:19:32 AM »
Hi Wesley my friend, I did already quote you this here earlier, I believe, directly from the Tivar product literature, but here it is again:
"The incorporation of an effective carbon black grade renders this material electrostatic dissipative properties."
As I said before, it has carbon in it to give the material its *conductive* anti-static properties.
If the material wasn't conductive to high voltages it would be useless as an anti-static material for floor mats or whatever else. :)
look here:
Product Data Sheet
Surface Resistivity per Square
1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohm1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohmASTM D257
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1052 on: January 15, 2019, 05:04:38 AM »
 Corona  seen on conductor in Tesla coil has nothing to do with dielectric.
There was no single piece of wire or any conductor.


This part of a  big slab is totally dielectric  and anti-static and uniform in its consistency.
Surface wave is giving you HV charge on the surface of dielectric.

Surface of dielectric is the interface with air.
In contrast to it the wood below can not serve as lossy  conducting medium as it is not conducting.
Earth is used as returned wire for HV and LW power networks.
The  difference between surface of dielectric is that at frequencies  higher than approximately 52MHz  uneven surface    cancels continuity of the surface  wave.
With earth however there is a need for proper resonant transformer  to be able to receive the surface wave.
In addition  I was in Near Field and that can explain sparks in my mouth.
 
Wesley
« Last Edit: March 09, 2023, 02:43:58 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1053 on: January 15, 2019, 05:27:05 AM »
Hi Wesley. I haven't worked with that specific material before, but I know well the reason
it has carbon infused into the material (gives it its dark black color). The carbon is in there
100% for certain to make the material conductive to high voltages. The carbon may possibly be
interspersed thoughout the material with other substances in such a way that gives it a high resistivity
to lower voltages (say less than 500V) even in its interior, but for absolute certain that material
is conductive enough to high voltages or it would be completely useless as an anti-static material.

To continue to deny something that obvious would be completely ridiculous. :)

Also, it absolutely would not show high voltage corona discharge between the Tivar blocks if the
material was not at least somewhat conductive to high voltages. It doesn't take super high conductivity
in a material for it to conduct a significant current when a high voltage is applied across it.
That Tivar
material with the carbon compound in it is very clearly conductive enough to high voltages to act as
an effective anti-static material, or they most definitely wouldn't be selling it as such, and also as seen
in your video screen shot, to allow corona discharge to occur between the two blocks of Tivar.
:)

Carbon is a quite a good conductor, especially when high voltage is applied across it. If you have any doubts,
please look it up, and please do contact the manufacturer of those Tivar blocks and ask them why the material
has carbon in it, and ask them what that Tivar material's conductivity is when subjected to very high voltage. ;)



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1054 on: January 15, 2019, 05:42:14 AM »
Quadrant EPP TIVAR® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
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Redco™ Ultra High Molecular Weight Polyethylene (UHMWPE) has extremely low moisture absorption, a very low coefficient of friction, is self lubricating and is highly resistant to abrasion (10 times more resistant to abrasion than carbon steel). Redco™ UHMW has the highest impact strength of any thermoplastic presently made and is highly resistant to corrosive chemicals, with an exception of oxidizing acids.
Redco™ UHMW plastic is known for its durability, machinability, versatility and cost-effectiveness. Virgin UHMW is FDA compliant and is used in applications where high levels of friction are likely to arise including chain channel, wear strips, belt scrapers, guides, and rollers. Redco™ UHMW can be machined into virtually anything from small bearings to large sprockets and liner systems. Due to an extremely low coefficient of friction, its inherent lubricity minimizes friction resulting in a smooth, noiseless operation.
Outperforming and more cost effective than metal in many applications. Redco™ UHMW is highly durable and available in a wide variety of formulations and grades.
   https://www.redwoodplastics.com/products/uhmw-polyethylene/

Quote
quote from data :
Surface Resistivity per Square
1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohm1e+05 - 1.00e+9 ohmASTM D257
https://www.astm.org/Standards/D257.htm
here you have its electric properties based on American standards. D257
Nothing you say is found here.
 this is American product not some of Far  East, Eastern European  garbage
Wesley


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1056 on: January 15, 2019, 09:21:28 AM »
Dear Void. Corona  seen on conductor in Tesla coil has nothing to do with dielectric.
There was no single piece of wire or any conductor.

Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1057 on: January 15, 2019, 09:36:27 AM »
Hi Wesley, I was talking about the corona discharge (low level arcing which is clearly visible between the
two blocks of TIVAR in the picture which I highlighted above. This corona discharge is occurring
because you are holding on to one of the TIVAR blocks which is effectively grounding it, and since
the TIVAR blocks are clearly conductive at high voltages due to the carbon content in them, the other TIVAR
block charged to a high voltage due to the very strong electric field it is in is creating corona discharge (low level arcing)
in the small air gap between the two TIVAR blocks. FYI, 'sparking' is a type of short term corona discharge. :) Arcing is where
the air completely breaks down due to a high voltage and you have a considerable current (relatively speaking)
passing from a higher voltage potential to a lower voltage potential through the air or other medium.
All the best...
Wow, I thought several hours before , not that I do not know this papers,  but reading it more concentrated :

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken+hayashibara&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=

f.e.:
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=4701675A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19871020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
60 W : (130 V x 200 A) arc discharge current ( which makes part of the inrush current kind )
60 Wnominal average : 26000 VA peak

Voltage divider,Frequency divider : Pulse divider
impulse spark gap : Space-Time calculation f.e. electrophorese like EDM or arc welding or Plasma welding

Maths world "Raum-Zeit/Space-Time" : https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kartesisches_Koordinatensystem
          applied f.e. 4d- nano-chirurgy by C.N.C. and in future EPROM based

Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1058 on: January 15, 2019, 10:55:39 AM »
Excellent video Void and the music! 8)
Maybe this will help rid this thread of this LED bulb lighting nonsense and get back to ways to light Kapanadze style 1KW bulbs with free energy.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. Thanks for watching mate. You would think that such an experiment will help to dispel some myths,
but that is not typically how things go around here unfortunately.  ;D We will see what Wesley has to say
about this experiment and the conclusions I draw from it. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1059 on: January 15, 2019, 11:27:09 AM »

Thank you for your video and your time.
anything what you say  at any frequency would be noted in literature as  this material is used in American government test facilities.

In  Product Data Sheet on the top you see material listed:
Quadrant EPP TIVAR® DrySlide UHMW-PE, Lubricant Filled, Electro Static Dissipative
UHMW-PE
I explained in  https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530113/#msg530113
and in
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg530118/#msg530118

Material used in experiment had nothing to do with charcoal or any conductive  material under any circumstances.
so again Void :
It is  the type of insulator that never becomes conductive
====================================================================
All of you can not accept that this is  how  surface wave manifests itself on dielectric.
Visual presentation  of how Kapanadze device works in the field may give to some of you some answers .
There is  former airport about 40 minutes from me.
It could be any flat open field I could find. But it is to cold outside.
I'm going to make few tests.
=================================================================
the bottom line is:
The same Zenneck surface wave used by Viziv   is used  by Tariel Kapanadze to extract energy from Shumann waveguide.
Energy fluctuation inside the waveguide are affecting its boundary.
Shumann waveguide  boundary  Earth  serves as interface.
And method of extraction of this energy  was the dilemma that one may patent to no longer deal with disbelieve of crowd.
If it does not work for you it works for other guy
what's a problem?
 
Wesley

Offline forest

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1060 on: January 15, 2019, 05:18:22 PM »
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?

Offline AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1061 on: January 15, 2019, 05:45:04 PM »
well it means there was a source of zenneck waves in 2004 near Kapanadze house.... right ?
Well what happened to the German guy Otto as a matter of interest?

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1062 on: January 15, 2019, 05:59:07 PM »
Not a german guy, but with first name Otto   :
https://www.google.com/search?q=otto+tpu-ecd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
Otto Sabljaric :  R. I. P .

Offline NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1063 on: January 15, 2019, 06:23:48 PM »
   Otto died a few years ago. Unfortunately. He may have been Serbian, but I'm not sure.
   Guys: The Schumann resonance frequency is now frequently changing, and has had bursts of up to 90hz.
Which means that if a device is tuned to an older Schumann frequency, it may not work the same now.
   What if this mentioned frequency has nothing to do with what Tesla was mentioning about tapping into the ambient surrounding energy. The Cosmic soup, etz...   What if you leave the planet? What frequency does deep space hold? 
   May we be barking up the wrong tree? Maybe it's not the Schumann resonant frequency at all, that we should be tuning into.

Offline lancaIV

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1064 on: January 15, 2019, 06:39:59 PM »
Winfried Otto Schumann
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winfried_Otto_Schumann


https://www.google.com/search?q=schumann+frequenz&client=firefox-b&oq=schumann+frequenz&gs_l=mobile-heirloom-serp.3..0l5.2996.8303.0.9122.9.4.0.5.5.0.236.724.0j3j1.4.0....0...1c..34.mobile-heirloom-serp..0.9.868.NgDB960H3Ls

Theta-Welle
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=Ken&IN=Kazumi+masaki&CPC=&IC=
f. e.
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=24&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990921&CC=US&NR=5954630A&KC=A#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19871201&CC=US&NR=4710655A&KC=A#

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=10&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19890530&CC=US&NR=4834701A&KC=A#

                           ~ NLP : Neuro-Linguistic-Programming
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuro-linguistic_programminghttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wds0JSpKtpg

                                                  also : propaganda ( pagare : to pay)
         sublime(s) selling instrument during shopping or by radio-/ tele-vision
                                   " product placement" /  mind occupation


https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+kazumi+masaki&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-bm

                                                                      EEG and EKG
https://www.google.com/search?q=brain+machine&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b

At last,  as ultra-mind and ultra-fast-learning  machine ( cheaper than a ultra-learning curse ) :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.neurophone-energy.com%2F
DIY- plans in the internet- universe to down-load

Mind maping : left brain ware and right brain ware seriell or parallel work
 + v. Klausewitz and Kaizen : cold economy war against the CONSTITUTION and CIVIL RIGHTS
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