Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum

[stivep]

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/fep01.htm
 "MUST BE POWERED BY A BATTERY SOURCE"

Do  you have  original link from 1999 or any  link from before 2012. to this experiment
The bottom line is that no known  art can be assumed personal intellectual property.
By that nobody can patent  anything that was previously shown , published, said or exists in
public or personal file if someone else  is able to prove that  it existed  in his  possession  or in public access , prior to final date of issuing  patent to the applicant.

By that if anyone of us  can prove that he used  in his show/ or shared with anyone , any structure or part of the structure that was
publicly known to provide  transmission  of electrical energy from  point A to point B he/she  and anyone else in the world is excluded
from persecution by any   authority or individual.  Next  step is to limit or revoke patent rights of an inventor
Energy should be a property of the humanity and not property of Chevron or any other oil company sicking their way out.
Russians will be very happy now  with that what I'm writing  here.
However next  what is possibly going to affect them is Extracting energy from Schumann Waveguide  that is free from patents.
That unfortunately will be the end of Russian oil  empire and all of oil based countries.


Here below we have one  of Corum Bros years ago acting like one of us ( and being not one of us) but now not any longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHRkCQ19GhU
 store this video in your computer before it gets deleted.
We dealing with billions of dollars invested  in subject matter now.
And  we dealing with  power of this money that can affect  everyone of us  if we are found conflicting with their interest..

Wesley
_{Legal note: this is expression of may personal opinion only according to constitution of
USA}

[F6FLT]

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[AlienGrey]

Do  you have  original link from 1999 or any  link from before 2012. to this experiment
The bottom line is that no known  art can be assumed personal intellectual property.
By that nobody can patent  anything that was previously shown , published, said or exists in
public or personal file if someone else  is able to prove that  it existed  in his  possession  or in public access , prior to final date of issuing  patent to the applicant.

By that if anyone of us  can prove that he used  in his show/ or shared with anyone , any structure or part of the structure that was
publicly known to provide  transmission  of electrical energy from  point A to point B he/she  and anyone else in the world is excluded
from persecution by any   authority or individual.  Next  step is to limit or revoke patent rights of an inventor
Energy should be a property of the humanity and not property of Chevron or any other oil company sicking their way out.
Russians will be very happy now  with that what I'm writing  here.
However next  what is possibly going to affect them is Extracting energy from Schumann Waveguide  that is free from patents.
That unfortunately will be the end of Russian oil  empire and all of oil based countries.


Here below we have one  of Corum Bros years ago acting like one of us ( and being not one of us) but now not any longer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHRkCQ19GhU
 store this video in your computer before it gets deleted.
We dealing with billions of dollars invested  in subject matter now.
And  we dealing with  power of this money that can affect  everyone of us  if we are found conflicting with their interest..

Wesley
_{Legal note: this is expression of may personal opinion only according to constitution of
USA}

Well I learnt that at school but in America the secret guv does what the Goat tells them it wants and it pops out from behind the majestic bush!
And where do you get the 9watt neon from '9WATTS!' you're having a laugh! are you sure it's not mercury vapour or Zenon (xenon)and look at the Don Smith device he gave the world that device and it uses an Earth ! rod cable !!

[stivep]

Hypothetical question:

My dear friends.
Let's say for the moment that this what I'm telling you is real.
I have dilemma  between two or more alternatives.
And let's say I have perfect solution for Free Energy device and electrical  energy  exaction  right now.

That particular solution is my own and I'm not restricted by anyone who in the past,
deposited his intellectual property   is my safe deposit box.
So I do not  feel obligated  nor I'm violating any ethics, nor  conflicting with  any standards.
I should  say, that you guys as a group represent behavior of typical crowd and by that  I should act, at best of my personal interest?
You manifest all negatives  significantly more often.

What choices  I have:
1. I can come up with this device in my next video.
ad.1. if the crowd do not see me  showing, working device they will simply ignore it , and Trolls will be having good time  scrutinizing it even more.

2. I can continue surface wave drama in here and in my next video.
ad.2  Not much will change, pieces of my intellectual property will be mixed  with all other  information. Trolls  will continue  to drag the crowd out of it.

3. I can file patent application  and possibly  be mouth shut by order of secrecy.
ad.3  If I will be mouth shut, I will not gain nor lose. Trolls  will  not even know it.
         But there is always a chance that someone else may independently
         go public and say that he has nothing to do with me, despite the fact that I'm alive or dead.

4. I can file patent application  and very same day reveal it to the public before  any one decides what to do with it.
ad.4  Yes this is possibly  one of the best options, you do not care  so you lose nothing and I at least have satisfaction for just few hundreds dollars spend.

5. I can file patent application and do nothing. If Patent office will not find it significant to government interest, I may be just waiting for patent.
ad.5  This is traditional option, since all that you know to do best is piss on that what is for free. So I accept that this is what will happen or be the case .

6. I  can continue experimenting and present it to the public the same way as Tariel  Kapanadze did.
ad.6  This might be interesting option. , crowd reacts, crowd pays attention. Trolls will try to prove it  fake. But motion is there.Crowd attention is  focused.


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suggested outcome:
Most likely, despite all of variables  till now :
-the option 6 with option 5 together is  the advice of my personal friends.
They say that I can do anything I want with the patent  or patent application.
Recognition of me and my contribution , by public  is formally secured.

And if I want to give it to the public I can do it any time after that.
It gives me a tool to act.
Trolls  from that moment  must deal with American  laws
and it is no longer important what they do , who is paying them and how much.


Wesley
 

 

[Void]

Hi Wesley. You are free to do whatever you want of course.
However, if you want people here to take at all seriously that you really have something,
you will have to show it in a video demo. The problem is there have been just too many false claims
made in forums like this for years such that most experienced people here will not take serious any claims
unless they can see a reasonable demonstration. It's nothing to do with you specifically,
it is just the way it is.

[Hoppy]

That's exciting Wesley, I'll treat myself to a new magnifying glass. 

[ramset]

Re a patent and American Laws ,giving a true FE device [in writing]to a Patent office .Like handing a man a stick to beat you with ,and showing him where it hurts the most [instructions]
Just one mans opinion about the Patent Trap and most countries national security clauses .
they would rather we fiddle while Rome Burns...

[stivep]

Thank you for your  suggestions, critics and response.
Wesley

[Void]

Hi Wesley. I hope that you won't make the mistake that some seem to make in this area
of applying for a patent before they have built and thoroughly tested a working prototype. 
It is easy for a person to be fooled by doing a few tests which seem to show some promise
and think that they have really got something, but when it comes time to building a working prototype
that can actually stand up to proper and long term testing, that is typically quite another matter.
Just throwing that out there for what it is worth.

P.S. Weslely, you have been talking here about what you think are supposedly the principles behind
Kapanadze/Akula/Ruslan, etc. devices.
Are you saying that you are now thinking about trying to patent something that is based on these same principles
which Kapanadze and Daly and Akula and Ruslan etc. have shown publicly and for which Daly said he released
into the public domain? Can you clairify that?

[AlienGrey]

Wesley; first of all will you do me a favour if you patent it or not ''Please'' record anyone on video who comes to your front door, and take care now you have put that out.

AG

[lancaIV]

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=2008103130A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=&date=20080828&DB=&locale=#
" ....... has to receive energy from a power supply constantly. "
Other " Kapanadze":
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=WO&NR=2008103129A1&KC=A1&FT=D#
wmbr
OCWL

[Void]

Well, the cray cray level is just a little too high here for me lately.
Good luck with your experimenting guys...

[AlienGrey]

My dear AlienGrey targeting me or terminating me is no longer an option to Anyone.
It will only make it to go out faster in both visual and written  form  , closing doors for anyone interested with any possible interaction after that.

Like Trump says :
you never know.
I might.
I might not.
I might - not you never know.
But who cares if I'm not there any longer.
Other than that it is too late.
 But of course, there is another possibility that it was just hypothetical.. question
 Who would be silly enough to make such public claims? Right?

Thank you for your suggestions, critics and response.
I'm so glad I have met so many beautiful,  valuable, and open people here.
Wesley

Wesley I just wish you well and be safe! every one wants FE but not half the world knocking on their door pleading for help.

[lancaIV]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ.   only 35 parameters, fine !

the "displacement money" producing real/ fictive value share-machinery :example between " skyrocking/ six-feet-under" dreams
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/aquion-the-bill-gates-and-kleiner-perkins-funded-advanced-battery-startup#gs.8M40819v                                 
                                                  Skyrocking investments : 190 Mio.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/bankrupt-aquions-salt-water-battery-assets-sold-to-austrias-bluesky-energ 
                                                   Groundrocking R. O. I. :       2,8 Mio.


WIPO : the " fictive" granted patent economic value evaluation ( patent court base for law suits)
Nice "fairness"-system today : you have juridical the right, anybody infriges your right, you want satisfaction from the yury but you have to bring the " estimated infringment value" as " law suit deposit" !                                                   

        Judgement-Poker, that is it ! F.e. : the Apple / Motorola-Qualcom-Samsung-...... infringment processes
                           ALONE against the " Grand Yury" and their " deposit demand" !

Many U.S.-Patent-Office granted patent applications are withdrawn by the European Patent Office !                                                   
                                               Time to think about the " system quality" !
             Assets real value, assets by credit for " house investments by credit" ?


                                  Estate finance system based by credit : by how many lever-stages totally ?
                                              actually : 37 "soft money units" ~ " 1 hard money unit"
                                                     
                                                       Lohn-Preis-Kredit-Spirale-up/ down : 0,3/0,3/0,3

[jojo500]

patent it, who knows maybe this stop your drama here