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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 696863 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1725 on: January 02, 2019, 09:34:11 PM »

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to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
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"Read  my  post again.[/size]the energy is extracted from  Schumann  waveguide."
only in this case I think, it's still not explanation at all
I'll try again:
In traditional approach:
You have suspended  sphere in the air
You can move  sphere up down
The mast is telescopic structure made from PCV
The  HV of Tesla coil  is right below
The primary winding of Tesla Coil is at the bottom.
However that coil is not on the ground.

This is your transmitter.
The height of the sphere is your tuning factor.
The diameters and  other vital structure  elements are given on the picture.

The receiver can be exactly the same  if you already phase matched it.
So how to do it;

Legal note : never do it. :)
1.Make two identical structures
2.the first one is your transmitter. Tx
3.the second one is  your receiver. Rx
4.place  both of them at the distance of 20 meters.( so Rx is not in Near Field in Tx)
5.Try to tune  the transmitting structure  primary  coil using at first regular function generator.It is tricky as you need right polyphase.
it should be close to 90 degrees ( not exactly  90) but I got it at 45 degrees.
6.Try to adjust your receiving  structure  similarly and have oscilloscope connected ( at best spectrum analyzer) to the low  voltage primary coil of Receiving structure.
7."Blindly" play with frequency of transmitting function generator and height of the  sphere.   
8. make sure that your Tesla coil  works on its resonance frequency. So you must calculate or measure its  highest point of resonance.
NOT ITS HARMONIC resonance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. observe  using another person what is going on  at the receiver side.
10. than minimize the power   from generator to 50% ,retune both  the Rx and Tx
11. than minimize the power to 10% and retune .




Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1726 on: January 02, 2019, 09:35:24 PM »
Wesley, can I call this an opto-electric or reversible an electro-optical Synchrotron ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1727 on: January 02, 2019, 09:37:55 PM »
Wesley, can I call this an opto-electric or reversible an electro-optical Synchrotron ?
If you use   nano meter spectrum  than ....
It is not technically correct... but ...
well.. it is not technically correct...
However  who cares..How you call it.
 :)
I'm just insignificant  member of shadows of  the crowd.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1728 on: January 02, 2019, 09:41:27 PM »
Korrekter?  A Syntheziser,  spinnen mit der Zyklotron-Frequenz .Am Ende eventuell bei Kiril Chukanovs Plasma ball .one  factor: device "Eigenfrequenz",fix or variable.Zeit-variant , un-/stetig, torkelnd ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1729 on: January 02, 2019, 10:04:31 PM »
Korrekter?  A Syntheziser,  spinnen mit der Zyklotron-Frequenz .Am Ende eventuell bei Kiril Chukanovs Plasma ball .one  factor: device "Eigenfrequenz",fix or variable.Zeit-variant , un-/stetig, torkelnd ?
Danke, mein lieber Freund
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1730 on: January 02, 2019, 10:06:57 PM »
Hi Wesley. There can be a world of difference between a hypothesis/ideas and what
can actually be demonstrated practically on a test bench. Schumann resonance,
surface waves, and extracting excess energy in the order of kW's somehow from these
is a tall order. A lot of actual experimentation would need to be done first before anyone
could venture whether there is actually anything to any of it or not. My guess is what
Kapanadze is doing is more simple. Akula's setup seems quite possibly more complicated
and finnicky and unreliable to me than Kapanadze's. Time to start the experiments to see if there
is anything at all to any of your ideas, no? There is a big difference between lighting a low power
LED bulb and lighting up several kW's of incandescent bulbs. A very big difference indeed.

I think Mr. Kapanadze might be shaking his head and having a good laugh at this point.
Kapanadze seems to have done it with nothing more than maybe a volt meter and clamp ammeter.
Something just doesn't add up at all to me in all this... :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1731 on: January 02, 2019, 10:16:19 PM »
...extracting excess energy in the order of kW's
My guess is what Kapanadze is doing is more simple. Akula's setup seems quite possibly more complicated
and finnicky and unreliable to me than Kapanadze's.
Dear Void.
The structure I have showed you is simpler than Kapanadze.
It could not be more simple.

Your concern about kW of energy from Schumann waveguide can be compared to;
MW of energy in closed circuit  between  traditional  electric HV electrical line and ground using load in between.
- you  are  walking on that ground and you do not feel  that power.
- the birds on that HV  wire do not feel it too.
Think that you are on that wire  with your one leg up.
Nothing ever  is going to  happened to you. You can only lose your balance and drop down. That's all.
So kW's of energy from Schumann waveguide  does not make you  to feel it. You are just above the  interface and you are not in phase relation.

I'm just insignificant  member of shadows of  the crowd.
Wesley 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1732 on: January 02, 2019, 10:38:19 PM »
Hi Wesley. In my experience in this area of research only the test bench can tell you what actually works
and what does not. What might seem easy in theory often doesn't work out that way when put to the actual test. :)
Nature has a tendency of getting in the way of our ideas. Here is reminder of what Kapanadze's basic 2004 setup looked like.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1733 on: January 02, 2019, 10:46:19 PM »
No concern that this "transmitter" technology is probably restricted in use by

a. https://www.itu.int/en/Pages/default.aspx  International frequency band use or national b. Genfer Konvention : acoustic weapons/instruments
 c. health-regulations: electro-magnetic compatibility
We have had in the last thirty years sufficient discussions ( studies ? ) about electro-smog.
No my friend:
Acoustical wave is longitudinal wave that is property of classical physics.
Zenneck wave is in area of quantum physics and is electromagnetic TEM that has nothing to do  with acoustics.
It is also non radiative. -  After the Near Field   it disappear . It does not exist in Far Field. Well sort of...

If your Tx is not transmitting omnidirectional  electromagnetic wave,  but flat surface wave than there is no way  for any agency or anyone to find its presence.
We are talking about not radiating TEM and its TM ( transverse magnetic mode ) not  about  EM Wave.
There are no receivers in the  world  for it known to me.
Think about non polluting flat wave like flat  squashed elephant, or
flat ant squashed by   bulldozer and now in the interface.
- the elephant is your 1000W
- the ant is your 1W 

Apart from that:
Viziv  license  expired.
if you want to  be  on  line with regulation you can check your local regulations.

I'm just insignificant  member of shadows of  the crowd.
Wesley

Legal Note: I do not  take any responsibility for your action .
to make  your understanding  clear  I say  do not do it ever.
That applies to all post of mine and all videos of mine.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1734 on: January 02, 2019, 11:27:18 PM »
Okay,  thanks a lot !
What I see is an "Experiment" period licence, expired.
What I see here is a relatively huge tower
  https://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide In relationship to "1000 W" transmitter experimental power range.

I hope that your "tower" is portable ! ;)

Sincerely -              OCWL 




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1735 on: January 02, 2019, 11:36:41 PM »
Okay,  thanks a lot !
What I see is an "Experiment" period licence, expired.
What I see here is a relatively huge tower
  https://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20180611/milford-testing-facility-tower-seeks-to-send-signals-worldwide
In relationship to "1000 W" transmitter power range.I hope that your "tower" is portable ! ;)

Sincerely -              OCWL
False assumption.
Small tiny  antenna that resonates at frequency X is equal in performance  to  huge antenna  at frequency X.
the only  difference is  in efficiency of that antenna.

However receiving antennas are more forgiving.
When your transmitter has high VSWR it just damages the Tx
When your receiver  has  impedance mismatch  it simply receives less.
Think about your car radio with broken antenna.
http://www.antenna-theory.com/definitions/vswr.php

Corum Brothers are not gods and their experience is much below Tariel Kapanadze practical experience.
Tariel theoretical experience is very low. He had no idea what he was playing with.
What they know  that they use.
First microwave was  at the size of  truck.
Please read my previous post again
I have made  some addition to it.



Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1736 on: January 03, 2019, 12:03:48 AM »
I do not conceptual understand your used expression " same performance" and your resume that it only depends from the efficiency.For me, following high fidelity devices, it depends from the receiver: thereby included tuner , equalizer and modulator, Amplitude + Frequency + Time Modulation .The antennas function:: tube or channel or " black/white whole"



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1737 on: January 03, 2019, 12:09:25 AM »
I do not conceptual understand your used expression " same performance" and your resume that it only depends from the efficiency.For me, following high fidelity devices, it depends from the receiver: thereby included tuner , equalizer and modulator, Amplitude + Frequency + Time Modulation .The antennas function:: tube or channel or " black/white whole"
I explained it in the link talking  about VSWR. Please read it, in my  previous  post.
 So  it is not size of an antenna but impedance  match that makes an antenna  of any size to transmit energy.
The physical  aperture of an antenna is only important if you targeting  specific performance.
e.g. Your Far Field in given frequency at desired  direction.
You can use half wave  or quarter wave length of dipole antenna . But you can shorten  that antenna with baluns( shortening coils.) like G5RG
You can use the same length of wire  minus its capacitive wind to wind  factor coiled in coil.
It will work beautifully.  But now this antenna is very small.
As long as SWR is 1:1 or close to it.
However SWR 1:5 in receiver is still  excellent antenna.
That is why I said receiving antennas  are more forgiving.
Tesla coil is the coil. But you can stretch  HV coil wire and  it will work.

Now your traditional receiver has  sensitivity of 0.1uV in average.
That says only about receiver ability to process signals that are 0.1uV over the noise floor.
And that has nothing to do with the antenna.
Antenna is independent creature good or bad for you at given frequency  range.
And its gain is measured  with db (Decibels .)

I must totally disagree with you . Antenna is not the filter.
It does not block anything it only resonates or not.
And it has bandwidth with one particular highest frequency of its resonance that gives you the highest  level of the signal  in TX or RX.- with proper impedance match.
-or the highest gain.

I'm just insignificant  member of shadows of  the crowd.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1738 on: January 03, 2019, 12:28:57 AM »
I told you guys before what I think Mr. Kapanadze's secret is, but for some reason
no one believes me. 


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1739 on: January 03, 2019, 12:51:33 AM »
Signal-to-noise, carrier-to-noise, Rauschtemperatur, Boltzmann-Konstante,.....
Yes, dB!
Wesley, I really thank you for your detailed explanation.
A good night and progress in your project wishingOCWL