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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1205417 times)

SolarLab

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #885 on: December 31, 2018, 05:27:22 AM »
 
Buck boost Autotransformers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtByASWDFwE

The Current Transformer

Question: What results when you have an open secondary CT?

https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/transformer/current-transformer.html

1000A High Current Transformer Experiment
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID7gG6krecI 

FIN

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Jeg

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #886 on: December 31, 2018, 06:23:30 AM »
Hi itsu ;) Nice to see again scopeshots of yours!

Well, i tested one bulb at a time. First 40W and then 70W. Both Incadesent bulbs at 220V.
Yellow is across the input capacitor C1. Blue is taken as you said between L1 and Czero.
Yes input is approximately 2X24V=48W. (with the 40W bulb)

I see at your last scopeshot that your input voltage (yellow) slightly inceases when feedback returns back some energy. Judjing by your very high input capacitance, looks like a generous return. Probably i have a flaw in my wiring connections as i don't see any change across my input capacitor C1=470uF.


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Jeg

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #887 on: December 31, 2018, 10:36:14 AM »
Itsu, V8Carlos
I think there is a flaw in the original Q-circuit. When Czero charges , L1 steals charges from the input capacitors, something that has to be blocked.
Itsu it will be easier if you could measure with your current probe, what flows between D1 and C2 and to what direction.

If this is true then the addition of D3 is of a necessity.

 Also if everyone agree to move this conversation in the old kapanadje thread or in a new one for not disturbing the guys here.   
Regards

v8karlo

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #888 on: December 31, 2018, 01:10:14 PM »
We are struggling years on bench with Ruslan's bullshits! What you just described it has already been tested with so many different ways i really can't remember. Yes the timing that you say is correct. But you always need power to create high voltage peaks. No matter how much power you need, at the end of the superimposition we are again at the starting point. Pout=Pin-losses.

About this 90 degrees thing is a nice subject for loosing few years more until to understand that the above equation doesn't ever change. But this is only my personal opinion of cource ;)

Guys i open again the old rusty Kapanadje thread for the V8-tests.


It will be good to start new tread Q.


About Q device. It uses energy trough bulb in both 2 phase. But it is returning energy only in 1 phase. So it should be 50% returned. In reality, losses, lets say 45%. If you could manage it to return energy in both phases you have your monster. It is that simple.


I work during New Year Eve so i wont be able to be on forum.for a few days. I write this from my mobile. The idea is real and the principle is good. You decide.

Sergh

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #889 on: December 31, 2018, 04:06:37 PM »
And now you will be able to know how Wesley was able to  excite dielectric.https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=883
Oh, Wesley..
When this antenna worked, I could show you such "wonders" at a distance of 5 kilometers from it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7eoZIGGDGk
https://realt.onliner.by/2018/04/27/radio
Happy New Year!

Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #890 on: December 31, 2018, 04:20:40 PM »
We are struggling years on bench with Ruslan's bullshits! What you just described it has already been tested with so many different ways i really can't remember. Yes the timing that you say is correct. But you always need power to create high voltage peaks. No matter how much power you need, at the end of the superimposition we are again at the starting point. Pout=Pin-losses.
About this 90 degrees thing is a nice subject for loosing few years more until to understand that the above equation doesn't ever change. But this is only my personal opinion of cource ;)
Guys i open again the old rusty Kapanadje thread for the V8-tests.

Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping someone here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.

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v8karlo

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #891 on: December 31, 2018, 08:19:13 PM »
Hi Jeg. Yes, the idea of applying high voltage impulses at around 90 degrees has been
discussed and experimented with here for several years already. I haven't ruled out
the Kapanadze/Daly/Akula/Ruslan devices myself as of yet. I am still inclined to think
at least some of those may really work. Kapanadze may be doing something different
than the others, if his demos have been legit, as his setups seems to produce a lot more power,
and apparently in a more stable way.

Regarding V8Karlo, there will not likely at all be any magic found there. At best you might see a
small efficiency gain in some such schemes, but when energy from the battery (or mains) is
dissipated through a resistive load, that energy is gone. It can't be magically recovered back
again in such a closed loop arrangement. Stepping up the voltage at the output of a device and trying
to feed it back to the power source typically causes the device to consume even more power than without that feedback. :)

V8Karlo has not even given any test results at all explaining how he made measurements,
or any actual efficiency gain measurements. As best as I can guess, he couldn't get anything to
work so he posted his PDFs hoping somewhere here could make improvements for him. However,
the problem is this: If there is no influx of energy drawn in from outside the device, you will never see
any energy increase beyond what the input power source is supplying.

The best anyone can do with any such arrangements will be to possibly improve efficiency
a little, but the COP will always be <= 1. In the case of V8Karlo's setups, there will not likely
be any much efficiency gain seen at all, if tested properly. Too many losses with all those diodes.
It would likely be more efficient to feed the bulbs directly from the secondary without all the other
lossy components. :-)

If someone wants any real hope of seeing 'magic', you have to think about how to draw in
extra energy from external to your device. The extra energy will have to come from somewhere.


I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?

Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #892 on: December 31, 2018, 08:29:25 PM »

I dont see any of yours ideas around. Why is that?  Where is your work?

Hi v8karlo. Not that it is relevant, but on my test bench, as always. ;)
I I come across something that I think is genuinely noteworthy, and if I feel like it,
I may show it. None of that changes the fact that the circuits you posted are not likely at all
going to do anything special, for the reasons I have already clearly explained. Sorry, but that
is just the reality of the situation.


Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #893 on: December 31, 2018, 08:40:43 PM »
It is better to do anything than Nothing like you do. I noticed that you two attacking anyone who has any idea at all.is it because you can not do something? You are smart guys. But you are not using that.

Hi v8karlo. Rather than trying to deflect, why not just address the legitimate issues raised?
I have explained clearly enough why it should not work. Why not just show a demonstration with
proper measurements of how those circuits you posted will improve the efficiency over just powering
a light bulb directly with a battery or with an inverter? You have already posted the circuit details, so posting
a demo should not be an issue. It should be quite straightforward for you to do if you have really measured
some unusual efficiency gain with these setups. All the best...


AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #894 on: January 01, 2019, 02:07:17 AM »
My best regards to you.


Stay inert and do nothing like you always do. For you, I am faking heat without power. Probably by magic.
Yeah magic is a keyword if they want to see how your device works and learn
then build the dam thing scope it and give us all a rest.
Happy new year to everyone.

But does it work if some clever Geza allocated you with a smart meter?  He, He!     

v8karlo Thing is Karlo is a thinker and a doer.             

ramset

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #895 on: January 01, 2019, 04:18:35 PM »
AG did post this in Kapanadze topic but it should probably go here first ?

AG ..Power from the Sun ...

Stefan put these links in the comments

..Snip
overunity.com >>> Go here: The full website is: http://zpower.biz/ or: http://zpower.net/ And here new infos: https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/      http://fluxpowertechnology.com/
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PS..
in another bit of open source FE business a member at Energetic forum that shares his work  asks a question about iron Oxide [he is a good man and can use all the support this community can offer IMO
and besides helping him it would be useful for experimenters here working with 3d printers or "other" in outside the box experiments...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #896 on: January 01, 2019, 06:06:09 PM »
overunity.com >>> Go here: The full website is: http://zpower.biz/ or: http://zpower.net/ And here new infos: https://spark.adobe.com/page/sRdP4qaNoCRW0/      http://fluxpowertechnology.com/


http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21092-velocity-factor-black-iron-oxide.html

 http://zpower.biz/
in 10:19  https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=612
The guy says about oscilloscope in such a way that the conclusion indicates variable components.

in 10:31 https://youtu.be/MsJwRznsf4o?t=631
The guy is warning about dangerous shock. That indicates  HV.
However measurement  shows 15.5V.
Well easy enough HV low current  = low  voltage High current
So meter is switched to DC and it only shows DC component.
The AC component can not damage  the meter as the current is   low.
But meter on AC does not show it. It shows only 138 mV.

We have enclosure of  helicopter light that has light bulb replaced.  The original lightbulb was 800W : 28V DC = 28.571A
The  guy conforms that he removed  original  lightbulb and all electronics from the enclosure.
We assume that replaced  lightbulb used the same mirror and   it was at nominal  24V with the device now  at ~ 18V  of steady  DC component under load.
At my Gamma Scientific PHO 4040,  light  from the video at its brightest point was compared to light of incandescent flat light from 45W light bulb.
This light was recorded  and than projected  and measured  on the same screen of my computer side by side .
The light used as my reference was measured from the distance of   3.5m .
That is close to the estimated distance of the camera to the reflector from the video.
The two brightest points of both  indicated ~ 42W .
However if  we approximate focused  light beam from helicopter  reflector  using mirror. we come to  lightbulb  of 35W running at approximately 50% of its nominal brightness.
that means  16-17W.

And now  lets take as a base  for calculation the maximum  of possible - nominal 45W.
So my error in  calculation of power dissipated by the reflector can be within  45:100 x 35= 15.75
15.75 : 2 = +/-  7.875%
So  the  effective range of  energy consumed by  Lightbulb  inside the reflector is   in  average   its maximum  around  20 to 22 W
To low 12W to 15W.
That is why the guy used helicopter reflector mirror  instead   of just regular incandescent lightbulb.
He wanted to impress potential viewer with  light intensity.

Please note that the original lightbulb used 4 wires than connected to regular  outlet box.
The module with   quote 
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5 different  frequencies
can be simply digital switch  switching relay inside enclosure to the battery using one single impulse.
the stack of plates  can be additional battery  (in addition  to the one hidden in  the helicopter  light enclosure .)
 

 enclosure of that  reflector has enough place for quite good battery inside.

Wesley
 


 
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Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #897 on: January 01, 2019, 09:36:21 PM »
... and it is not even a full moon. 

Meanwhile, let's get back to the lab, and see what we have on the slab... ;D

My current test setup with some new improvements seems to still be showing COP < 1, but so far at least seemingly giving
quite high efficiency. I know I can get the efficiency at least a little better yet, as I haven't fully optimized the setup yet.
Will I be able to break the COP = 1 barrier? Chances are I won't, but I am not giving up (yet). :) My current circuit concept
at least theoretically should be at least quite efficient, which my latest design appears to be so far, and by my way of thinking
it might possibly do even a little better than it is performing now once I get everything optimized. What's my point?
My first several tries at this circuit did not perform well at all, but I observed what were the main issues with
the setup and thought about how I might be able to address those issues. I then made changes to the setup
in a step by step manner and observed whether my new changes helped or not. I am learning from both my
failures and from what helps improve the setup's performance. My suggestion is take things step by step
and don't be put off by failures. Learn from those failures and use this new knowledge to design better setups.
Theory and ideas can only take you so far. You must start testing at some point on the test bench, and approaching
this testing in a systematic and step by step progressive manner is probably a very good idea, IMO. Don't
let failures discourage you, but you must be willing to observe carefully and think about the implications from different
angles so you can learn from your failures. My two cent's worth for the new year. ;D

P.S. As has been pointed out already here, if the theory behind your test setup does not include a way to draw in
energy from external to your test setup into your test setup, you are not likely at all ever going to see a COP > 1.
Start with a theory for achieving COP > 1 which you think potentially at least holds some promise, then put this theory
to the test systematically on the test bench. If it doesn't work at all as predicted and you have tested it well, then
you probably need to go back to the drawing board at that point. :)

« Last Edit: January 02, 2019, 01:43:59 AM by Void »

ramset

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #898 on: January 01, 2019, 10:27:33 PM »
Paul just dropped this
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xjto75krz7vtyuj/Tesla%20Turbo%20%C2%A9%20Copyright%202019%20-%20All%20Rights%20Reserved%20-%20Open%20Source%20Project%20v0.1.m4v?dl=0..
over here...
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/21075-nikola-tesla-s-turbine-secrets-global-open-source-project-4.html
..
Not sure if he has achieved phase change with gain [ala Clem]or ??
and yes I know.... its not good to hug the plastic at a zillion RPM [very exciting.... Butt ?!!]
actual demo starts at 2 min mark ,runaway ?or ? at the end//
Quite possible they are seeing a second stage hitting its design window and needing much less input,....self run would tell for certain if they hit a phase change with gain or ??..
regardless the fearless hand does seem to initiate the increase RPM when he applies that back pressure to the out flow [standing wave hand tuned exhaust .....
wild stuff indeed

SolarLab

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #899 on: January 02, 2019, 01:21:07 AM »



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCC8mY7ykM4 (part 2)
   [Includes Grenade in simulation Schematic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOJfr_lz0jU (part 1)

Thank you ACCA
FIN

Addendum:
RUSLAN videos (physical device appreciation)
https://www.youtube.com/user/DragonsLord76/videos

FIN

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