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seychelles

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #825 on: December 28, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »
yeah just build the bloody thing and test the out come.
i am in seychelles and i have already ordered the parts
you people you can just go down the road and get all the
necessary parts.. just build it.. build it let bullshit talk later on.
 

Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #826 on: December 28, 2018, 05:31:02 PM »
Hi Hoppy.
Kapanadze was showing what was said to be five 1kW light bulbs lighting quite brightly. I don't think you could
light them to any significant brightness that way.

Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #827 on: December 28, 2018, 05:41:29 PM »
  There is no Kapa. Where did the diagram come from? The Kapagen device? It is also not a free energy device, but needs a input source. No kapagen replications have even been shown to self run, and is why no one is working with it anymore these days.
It's the Mr Previn  circuit I tried it but the wind has to be tuned to the frequency your using Re Old scientist experiment, with 50/60hz
you would need a lot of winds and one has to be out of phase with the other.

Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #828 on: December 28, 2018, 05:51:53 PM »
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568176-apparatus-producing-electrical-currents-high-frequency-and

Try to imagine that this patent is 100% Kapanadze. Not possible? Certainly?
What do the two coils do? What is in the diagram? so why do I want to put two coils on one core! 
What do we read in the description of the Tesla patent.
Why does Kapanadze use HV? and what is HV there.
If it's just for deception, because all you need is two coils, a capacitor and a breaker. The rest are oscillations, maybe HV is oscillated.

Why reject it because it is too simple to be true?

Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.


Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #829 on: December 28, 2018, 06:01:09 PM »
Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. I saw a comment from someone here a long time ago who was from that part of the world
who said he recognized that type of light bulb and confirmed that they are rated at 1kW.

I am not sure what you mean. ???  Anyone is free to build and test whatever they like. I explained clearly why I think
it won't work produce free energy, and, as I have also mentioned, I have confirmed this in my own testing as well
on similar types of arrangements. Anyone is free to test and draw their own conclusions, so I don't see any reason for
anyone getting their panties in a twist. ;)


r2fpl

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #830 on: December 28, 2018, 06:10:32 PM »
Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.

Hi Void,

See the simulation. However, it is very interesting.
Note that the current is the same and only the voltage increases in the capacitor.
It is very important to choose the frequency for resonance.
This is for a frequency of about 50Hz. The voltage increases rapidly.
If we change 50Hz to 1kHz and give HV 1-2kV with appropriate resonance we should get an immediate increase in the capacitor.
The difference in capacitor capacity will be at the level of pF. The capanadze tunes the copper coil through the wire inserted there. What does it do and how much it is in capacity!!!!!!!!! pF!!!!

seychelles

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #831 on: December 28, 2018, 06:33:39 PM »
I WOULD COME TO THE CONCLUSION WHEN A CIRCUIT IS AT RESONANCE
IT INVOKE SUPER CONDUCTIVITY AT ROOM TEMPERATURE,, THE QUESTION HOW
TO INVOKE MORE CURRENT FROM THE CIRCUIT..

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #832 on: December 29, 2018, 08:30:58 AM »
Guys i see you have started a nice party here.
Wesley
Thanks a lot for what you are doing. Very inspiring video of yours, but also thanks for being in the middle with V8Carlo, sharing with us his idea.

V8Carlo.
Really there are not any words to express my gratitude. I was struggling a lot to return some energy back to the source but it was never enough to overcome the input energy. I hope that your idea will be implemented soon by one of us for a demonstration. I already have the gear to test it.

Is that possible to post again your pdf? Looks like a bad link. Also, I don't understand why I cannot copy the images. For some reason, it is locked by administrator?!

Best regards
Jeg have you got MSpaint? then copy to paint or just save it to download folder, If copied to paint 'select all' then copy' then you have it
to stick where you like  ;D ;D

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #833 on: December 29, 2018, 08:39:31 AM »
Hoppy Imagin electricity ENERGY is like gold or currency! and a capacitor is the bank, well as long as everyone doesn't want their savings
back all at once banksters are free to use as they like, You can guess the rest.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #834 on: December 29, 2018, 10:11:27 AM »
Hi Void,

See the simulation. However, it is very interesting.
Note that the current is the same and only the voltage increases in the capacitor.
It is very important to choose the frequency for resonance.
This is for a frequency of about 50Hz. The voltage increases rapidly.
If we change 50Hz to 1kHz and give HV 1-2kV with appropriate resonance we should get an immediate increase in the capacitor.
The difference in capacitor capacity will be at the level of pF. The capanadze tunes the copper coil through the wire inserted there. What does it do and how much it is in capacity!!!!!!!!! pF!!!!

Standard resonant tank circuit stuff. 
Interesting to the uninitiated.   
V8karlo has not posted overunity info.   It all runs down. 
All the best with it!
The fact that he posts he is frightened for his life is delusional

Jeg

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #835 on: December 29, 2018, 10:36:01 AM »
Jeg have you got MSpaint? then copy to paint or just save it to download folder, If copied to paint 'select all' then copy' then you have it
to stick where you like  ;D ;D

Thanks mate! ;)

About the topic, i have also stoped beleiving in magic. I just haven't found any energy amplification to any of the projects i worked with! Looks like Steinmetz was right when talked about proportionality in change between all electrical values when it comes to electricity. So for me if there is something in to it then circuits like V8Carlos is the real deal. It doesn't give amplified energy, but a way to reuse again and again the same portion of energy that initially was used, compensating any losses by injecting energy from the battery itself during each cycle. A system of this kind normally would selfrun "for ever".
If this is the case then it is silly easy to confuse people making them to beleive that two oscillators is the real deal, or that the materials are essential for the operation, or that special geometric coil forms can produce OU! :o

About "closed" and "open" systems, IMO i don't believe that a "closed" system exists in electricity. Even a single cable shortcutting a battery creates a magnetic and dielectric field which interacts with the big earth/ionosphere dielectric.

I wish you all a happy new year. ;)

seychelles

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #836 on: December 29, 2018, 11:06:54 AM »
THERE IS NEVER SUCH THING AS A CLOSED ELECTRICAL SYSTEM.
FIRST THEY CALL A PUMP A GENERATOR. WELL ENERGY CAN NOT
 BE GENERATED AND OR DESTROY. WHEN AN ELECTROMAGNET IS
CONNECTED TO DC POWER, THE MAGNETIC FORCE PUSH OUT
THE INVISIBLE FLUID AROUND IT IS CALL ETHER..ETHER IS WHERE
 THE REAL ENERGY IS. WHEN THE POWER IS SWITCHED OFF THEN
ETHER SPRINGS BACK TO IT,S ORIGINAL POSITION AND FORCING
THE SO CALL ELECTRON DOWN THE POWER LINE. BEMF EMF.
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #837 on: December 29, 2018, 11:24:17 AM »
 Hi Markus!
 
Thank you for your fifth mail. I don't have much time these days because of my job.
I will try to answer your question (not all of them).
 
I choose this one.
What is difference in a number of capacitors in Zero device?
 
There is non linearity there. It is not obvious. It is kind of hidden.
Let's say that the source current is 1A. With 3 caps in series they will produce 3 x 1A = 3A. With the help of Czero cap the voltage will raise to 525V. (input voltage is AC 220V, Europe)

So 525V / 3 caps = 175V on each cap (C1, C2, C3). So 175V is output voltage.
 
Now, if we add 1 cap more in series we will have 4 caps in series. They will produce 4A. And the voltage on each will be 525V / 4 = 131V on each cap. Difference in voltage is from 175V to 131V = 44V.
 
If you add 9 caps they will produce 9A and voltage on each cap will be 525V / 9 caps = 58V.
If you add 10 caps they will produce 10A and voltage on each cap will be 525V / 10 caps = 52V.
Difference of output voltage between 9 and 10 caps in series 58V – 52V = 6V.
 
Difference between 3 and 4 caps in series is 44V (on output).
Difference between 9 and 10 caps in series is 6V (on output).

See difference here (44V and 6V).That means that with each cap added you gain 1A and after number of caps the output voltage drops only for little. That means that you have to raise input voltage only for a little and you gain always 1A with every cap.
 
After a 20 caps in series you have to raise input voltage only for the fraction to raise output voltage on that caps but with every cap added you gaining always 1A. It is serial connection law.

What about after 60 or 200 caps? You have to raise input voltage only for 1V or less to gain 1A. There is no limit to this.
What about after 1000 caps? You wanna power your city?
 
These is easy to me because I played with that device for a while, but it is hard for someone who see it for the first time. I tried to explain this simple as much as I can. I hope I helped.
 
Please don't send me more mails. My mail is full. I can not read it all.
 

NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #838 on: December 29, 2018, 02:48:55 PM »
  v8karlo:   Thanks for your contribution.  Even though your circuit may not produce any extra energy, it may allow the circuit connected up that way, to run longer. Of course, this would need to be tested by some of us here. So, it's good that you are here with us, to give us a helping hand with all this.   
   My father and his parents were also from Zagreb, from the old Yugoslavia. I was born in Venezuela, so I am a South American Croat. I highly believe in Tesla, and his ideas on free energy.  Unfortunately, the free energy ideas, and his inventions have been hidden from us, to a great degree.    Can you explain why you are so scared. Perhaps that can help us to understand your concerns. And also, why did you stop working on the device that you have shown, after so many years of working to achieve the results that you have obtained. Also, do you still have the device assembled and working, or not.  Sorry for all the questions.    Thanks again,                       
                        Nick Zec

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #839 on: December 29, 2018, 04:09:21 PM »
v8karlo: I also asked earlier.
I think you might find the answer in this little video  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRFQVMJf5eI