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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 377546 times)

Offline NickZ

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1575 on: December 28, 2018, 04:09:41 PM »
  There is no Kapa. Where did the diagram come from? The Kapagen device? It is also not a free energy device, but needs a input source. No kapagen replications have even been shown to self run, and is why no one is working with it anymore these days.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1576 on: December 28, 2018, 04:43:04 PM »
I agree with your perspective and although there is no real energy gain / overunity from such a setup, it could possibly be the basis of Kapanadze's devices such as his 2004 device, whereby a modest power supply from a battery and inverter is able to power a simple VBKarlo type circuit, to pulse drive a lamp load to a visual brightness that exceeds that when the load is run directly from the power supply.

Hi Hoppy.
Kapanadze was showing what was said to be five 1kW light bulbs lighting quite brightly. I don't think you could
light them to any significant brightness that way.

A little more on V8Karlo's setups:
I have spent a considerable amount of time testing such arrangements in the past.
My perspective is confirmed with actual tests. You can put a capacitor as a 'load' on the secondary of
a transformer and the only losses in that case are due to the losses in the capacitor itself, so the losses
are negligible in such a configuration, but your circuit is not powering any load. As soon as you try to place
a resistive load or diodes, etc. in that loop, no matter how you fiddle with the arrangement, and whether you
are trying to feed that current going through your load back to the primary power source or not, the power
consumed at the output is coming from the primary power source. There is no free energy there, IMO. 

V8Karlo seems like a nice guy, but in my view his circuits are not going to provide anyone with free energy. I am
quite certain such arrangements are not going to produce a COP > 1, and therefore this is not related
in any way to what Kapanadze may be doing, IMO, assuming Mr. Kapanadze is not just a trickster.  :)
People are free to try such circuits for them self, but do your self a favor and conduct proper measurements/tests to
confirm the actual power consumption on the power source. It is not so hard to do in such arrangements. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1577 on: December 28, 2018, 04:54:00 PM »
There is no overunity the real gain comes from coupling to something that is willing to cooperate and share.
Wesley


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1578 on: December 28, 2018, 04:55:08 PM »
https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmRVVYaonuv5d493TVoNfovVWNuZC26Pn3pwVrSfgUv1dz&channel=49137&fbclid=IwAR1b00zDiTRryPZf2ZhyuAJQEqqUo9Anl5YMeC56ag_cspvqDHhfupUrYPo
Does anybody have any idea about this generator?
Do not say that this generator is fake, but please explain it under the assumption that it is real.
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The second post.
I did not hear any answer.
« Last Edit: December 30, 2018, 07:05:45 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1579 on: December 28, 2018, 05:00:43 PM »
Aye, I agree. If you want any hope of seeing a COP > 1, your setup must be designed to draw in
excess energy from some external source, whether you can identify what that external source of energy is or not. :)
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1580 on: December 28, 2018, 05:15:31 PM »
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568176-apparatus-producing-electrical-currents-high-frequency-and

Try to imagine that this patent is 100% Kapanadze. Not possible? Certainly?
What do the two coils do? What is in the diagram? so why do I want to put two coils on one core! 
What do we read in the description of the Tesla patent.
Why does Kapanadze use HV? and what is HV there.
If it's just for deception, because all you need is two coils, a capacitor and a breaker. The rest are oscillations, maybe HV is oscillated.

Why reject it because it is too simple to be true?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1581 on: December 28, 2018, 05:25:06 PM »
yeah just build the bloody thing and test the out come.
i am in seychelles and i have already ordered the parts
you people you can just go down the road and get all the
necessary parts.. just build it.. build it let bullshit talk later on.
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1582 on: December 28, 2018, 05:31:02 PM »
Hi Hoppy.
Kapanadze was showing what was said to be five 1kW light bulbs lighting quite brightly. I don't think you could
light them to any significant brightness that way.

Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1583 on: December 28, 2018, 05:41:29 PM »
  There is no Kapa. Where did the diagram come from? The Kapagen device? It is also not a free energy device, but needs a input source. No kapagen replications have even been shown to self run, and is why no one is working with it anymore these days.
It's the Mr Previn  circuit I tried it but the wind has to be tuned to the frequency your using Re Old scientist experiment, with 50/60hz
you would need a lot of winds and one has to be out of phase with the other.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1584 on: December 28, 2018, 05:51:53 PM »
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/patents/us-patent-568176-apparatus-producing-electrical-currents-high-frequency-and

Try to imagine that this patent is 100% Kapanadze. Not possible? Certainly?
What do the two coils do? What is in the diagram? so why do I want to put two coils on one core! 
What do we read in the description of the Tesla patent.
Why does Kapanadze use HV? and what is HV there.
If it's just for deception, because all you need is two coils, a capacitor and a breaker. The rest are oscillations, maybe HV is oscillated.

Why reject it because it is too simple to be true?

Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1585 on: December 28, 2018, 06:01:09 PM »
Clearly not in my opinion, if the bulbs were a genuine 1KW each. However, the bulbs power rating was hotly debated a few years ago, together with the likely power dissipation, given how misleading camera caught light levels can be. If the lamps were genuinely 1KW, then its more likely that the blue inverter was eye candy as suggested back then and bypassed internally to power the device directly from the rectified mains to perhaps operate along the lines of V8Karlo's 'Q' circuit.
As Seychelles suggests, lets just build the bloody thing and then resume the BS once the results are in.  ;D

Hi Hoppy. I saw a comment from someone here a long time ago who was from that part of the world
who said he recognized that type of light bulb and confirmed that they are rated at 1kW.

I am not sure what you mean. ???  Anyone is free to build and test whatever they like. I explained clearly why I think
it won't work produce free energy, and, as I have also mentioned, I have confirmed this in my own testing as well
on similar types of arrangements. Anyone is free to test and draw their own conclusions, so I don't see any reason for
anyone getting their panties in a twist. ;)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1586 on: December 28, 2018, 06:07:54 PM »

I am not sure what you mean. ???   
Apologies. I was being somewhat facetious.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1587 on: December 28, 2018, 06:10:32 PM »
Hi r2fpl. Kapanadze did say his devices come from Tesla's work, so it is possible.
I don't think anyone is necessarily rejecting it out of hand, just that so many different circuits have been
posted over the years that it is quite a mess now.

This is an interesting bit from Tesla's patent 568,176:
"It will be apparent from a consideration of the conditions involved that were the condenser to be
directly charged by the current from the source and then discharged into the working circuit a very
large capacity would ordinarily be required, but by the above arrangement the current of high electromotive
force which is induced at each break of the main circuit furnishes the proper current for charging the
condenser, which may therefore be small and inexpensive."

It's hard to say for certain, but it sounds like Tesla is possibly talking about a considerable efficiency gain there.

Hi Void,

See the simulation. However, it is very interesting.
Note that the current is the same and only the voltage increases in the capacitor.
It is very important to choose the frequency for resonance.
This is for a frequency of about 50Hz. The voltage increases rapidly.
If we change 50Hz to 1kHz and give HV 1-2kV with appropriate resonance we should get an immediate increase in the capacitor.
The difference in capacitor capacity will be at the level of pF. The capanadze tunes the copper coil through the wire inserted there. What does it do and how much it is in capacity!!!!!!!!! pF!!!!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1588 on: December 28, 2018, 06:13:28 PM »
Apologies. I was being somewhat facetious.

I see. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1589 on: December 28, 2018, 06:33:39 PM »
I WOULD COME TO THE CONCLUSION WHEN A CIRCUIT IS AT RESONANCE
IT INVOKE SUPER CONDUCTIVITY AT ROOM TEMPERATURE,, THE QUESTION HOW
TO INVOKE MORE CURRENT FROM THE CIRCUIT..

 

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