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Offline SolarLab

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1410 on: December 07, 2018, 03:51:50 AM »
Thank you for your comments my dear friends.
I have some  positively shocking revelation in area of Ted device.
 I  must:
- check if I'm authorized to publish it.
- decide   if I want to  make  another video  or just publish it.
- decide  which forum is technically  the most  interested with Ted technology .

Down here is some preview.
This is photo not drawing.
descriptors   are the addition  that was written  later on the picture
That what you see it was fax copy .

Wesley


Hi Wesley,

Is your fax/photo from a physical build of this patent - US20070242406A1  2007/10/18  by Annis and Eberly?

Electricity generating apparatus utilizing a single magnetic flux path
Abstract

Methods and apparatus generate electricity through the operation of a circuit based upon a single magnetic flux path. A magnetizable member provides the flux path. One or more electrically conductive coils are wound around the member, and a reluctance or flux switching apparatus is used to control the flux. When operated, the switching apparatus causes a reversal of the polarity (direction) of the magnetic flux of the permanent magnet through the member, thereby inducing alternating electrical current in each coil. The flux switching apparatus may be motionless or rotational. In the motionless embodiments, two or four reluctance switches are operated so that the magnetic flux from one or more stationary permanent magnet(s) is reversed through the magnetizable member. In alternative embodiments the flux switching apparatus comprises a body composed of high-permeability and low-permeability materials, such that when the body is rotated, the flux from the magnet is sequentially reversed through the magnetizable member.

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070242406

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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« Reply #1411 on: December 07, 2018, 04:57:55 AM »
F.Y.I.

Since it is critical to fully understanding the "gap - magnet - ferromagnetic core" interaction, a lengthly excerpt from Melinchenko's paper follows:

"... Now we will insert into the coil a ferromagnetic core (ferrite, steel, etc.). In this case, most of the EMF in the winding is created not by the magnet field itself, but by the magnetic field Bi of the ferromagnetic core. In this case, the magnetic field of the ferromagnetic core is mostly closed in the air around the core and only partially closed through the magnet (and interacts with it). That is, a large part of this “iron” field of the core is generally closed around the core, bypassing the magnet. 

But it is important to understand that the ALL magnetic field of the ferromagnetic core creates an emf in the turns of the coil. From the point of view of energy flows around the ferromagnetic core, there emerges its own Pointing vector and energy flow, which is only partially connected with the magnet.
In this case, most of the energy flux into the coil does not come from the magnet field, but from the ferromagnetic field of the core in the coil. This seems incredible from the point of view of classical electrodynamics. It turns out that the flow of energy into the coil comes not only and not so much from the primary source - the magnet, but as it “flows in” from the magnetic core of the core from the surrounding space ?! 

Now remove the magnet from the ferromagnetic core with the coil - the core will demagnetize. In this case, ALL the ferromagnetic field of the “iron” of the ferromagnetic core is converted into electricity, and only a PART of this field will brake the magnet. It turns out that a significant, large part of the electricity generated in the coil is generally not related to electromechanical energy conversion? The magnet only initiates changes in the magnetic field in the ferromagnetic core. And a significant part of the useful electric power is induced in the winding by the ferromagnetic field of the core, which is mostly closed outside the magnet. The generation of electricity in the coil is largely, as it were, generally detached from the magnet (rotor inductor, inductor) spatially.

In this system, two processes occur simultaneously - the usual electromechanical energy conversion and the generation of electricity, which are not associated with a magnet. 

A magnet (or electromagnet) is only an inductor of changes in the magnetic field in an iron (ferromagnetic) core. And most of the EMF and electricity induces the field of the core. This is the most important difference from the example with a magnet and a coreless coil. According to the topology of the magnetic fields of the system “magnet plus coil without a core” and “magnet plus a coil with a core” have, as you can see well from the figure, a fundamental difference. 

The ferromagnetic core in the coil creates its magnetic zero in the turns of the coil, in addition to the magnet field, and its own energy flow in the coil. And this additional energy flow is already topologically connected with the primary source of the change of the field by a magnet. ..." 

" ... An example from the field of electromechanics is absolutely equivalent to a static system both in the topology of ferromagnetic fields, and in the topology of the Poynting vector and all energy flows. In the static case, the inductor is fixed. Energy costs for magnetization are limited only by the field (ferromagnetic), which is inductively connected with the inductor winding and participates in the magnetic interaction of the cores through the gaps. 

The simplest device consists of two, preferably three cores separated by gaps. The gap is relatively large - a few millimeters, and is needed for the partial separation of ferromagnetic zeros of the side cores and the inductor.

A current is supplied to the inductor winding, and through the gaps its core is magnetized and the side cores magnetize. Around them also arise their own magnetic fields. The source that supplies the inductor does not spend electricity on the formation and energy of these secondary ferromagnetic fields. The secondary ferromagnetic fields do not participate at all in the magnetic interaction with the inductor core. When the inductor is demagnetized, the magnetic field energy is removed from the side cores with the help of special windings on them.

These windings do not participate in magnetization. When magnetized, the current in them is blocked by diodes. In general, this device according to the mode of operation is the so-called flyback converter (magnetic energy accumulation throttle), with a more complex topology of magnetic fields. Energy is removed from the core system, separated by gaps. The number of cores can be any.

Experience shows that with a certain ratio of gaps and induction (and magnetization curve) the number of cores is not limited at all! In this case, one or two inducers can magnetize dozens, hundreds of cores - even to infinity !!! ..."

https://realstrannik.ru/tehnomagija/366-transgenerator-magnitnogo-polya-andreya-melnichenko.html   

Rarely, if ever, have I seen this  "gap - magnet - ferromagnetic core interaction" appear in the analysis of excess energy device discussions; most notably here, and in the Fugera threads. 

Undoubtedly I may have missed it - if so, then save the screaming! All be it subtle, it is an important concept to appreciate non the less. 

FIN

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« Reply #1412 on: December 07, 2018, 10:10:28 AM »
I suggest combining streams in such a simple way. Why shouldn't it work? We don't have to change the polarization just to enable one field.

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« Reply #1413 on: December 07, 2018, 01:27:18 PM »


Hi Wesley,

Is your fax/photo from a physical build of this patent - US20070242406A1  2007/10/18  by Annis and Eberly?
Electricity generating apparatus utilizing a single magnetic flux path

No it is not.
This what you quoted is  Ted's application based on that fax  photo.
But I'm surprised  that  I was able to  trigger so much interest  in this fine crowd of people.
It was so quiet and than bubumm..

What  you SolarLab  do not understand is that,  British success  in Skripal case was examining every possible piece of material by "dicotyledonous" applied to data 
So I do in special cases too. Good  and very much memorized skills from my past.
That's why I'm still alive.                   I knew about Russians, but it was clever,- they got me in airplane.
That's why Skripal are still alive  They  knew about Russians,  but it was clever - they  got them with notvitchok
So my present activity is just to be ready, to pay back not only with one but with many things in my arsenal at once .
Even if I'm not around ...for the benefit of many..

And now who was first is not important,
Melnichenko  or Ted...
I can lift Ted up.. if I want to...
I can push two other things  out of three ( I was talking about few pages back) too.
Unfortunately I'm to small for Viziv, but I can make such technology exposed to the public and the effect will be the  same.
The only limitation I have is to be fair. that's all.
That is the only barrier, that some Russians  do not care to understand...Because they do not have  it.

Wesley





 
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 08:11:47 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1414 on: December 07, 2018, 07:00:42 PM »
Hi, Wesley, there is obviously a lot sidetracking coming in from various side and characters spoiling the broth so to speak.

Can you as yet tell us the components involved or is anyone going to supply kits or part kits?
Needless to say, we need to see some sort of control circuit or micro control flow chart etc
When you are ready of course before making any decisions on whether to get involved or whatever.

cheers AG

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« Reply #1415 on: December 07, 2018, 08:04:35 PM »
Hi, Wesley, there is obviously a lot sidetracking coming in from various side and characters spoiling the broth so to speak.

Can you as yet tell us the components involved or is anyone going to supply kits or part kits?
Needless to say, we need to see some sort of control circuit or micro control flow chart etc
When you are ready of course before making any decisions on whether to get involved or whatever.

cheers AG
The key element is reluctance switching and the device could be made  in the matter of few days.( for some few hours)
From  legal  and from rules of fairness.  I can not state whether I have made the device or not.
This is not my invention, but I check to what extend  I can move in this direction.
Yes the device is self looped  and that is the biggest  problem to explain even to me.
Magnet gives nothing out.
Magnet is the most selfish thing in the planet earth.
It doesn't lose, It does not  gain and it does not care.

However the other material is the  key to explanation of the phenomena in question.
And that corresponds surprisingly with Lithuania Experiment
That material can be thin  insulated soft !!!iron plates  or just  permalloy transformer core or yoke used in experiment
example of it could be C shape  from big microwave transformer, but that is not the most fortunate solution.
In  case you deal with E shape than you need to cut the middle part of E in such a way that plates do not touch each other  in the place of removed  permalloy.


example of it could be C shape  from big microwave transformer, but that is not the most fortunate solution.
In  case you deal with E shape than you need to cut the middle part of E in such a way that plates do not touch each other  in the place of removed  permalloy.
If someone decides to use soft iron, it could be easily formed  and deformed -  stack of soft iron wires
rusted or painted with  non-conductive paint before you put them together, and form  desired core.
The advantage of it is that all of possible geometrical shapes could be easily formed
on the table in the matter of minutes. Paint must be thin, flexible and dielectric.
If you use soft iron plates   you can also  paint it or use the thinnest  you can find  insulating paper or mylar,
or  any other similar kind of stretched polyester film.to limit Eddy Current.
 
Using C shape magnets  the assembly takes 15 minutes.
However  the trick  with reluctance switching takes little longer.
Some of tests can be done by creating  air gap instead of reluctance switches. ( ferrite = soft iron)
Just to see this 1500V out of 1V and 1A
Explanation of  Air Gap:
1.  You have your 4 of say 5"  long rectangular pieces of iron where only  2 of them  have  strong magnet in the middle. ( cut in  half and stick to the  magnet  or use magnets as a whole bar)
2   You make from them  rectangle in such a way that  the bars with magnet   are  parallel  to each other  for the distance of  two other pieces making   square or rectangle
3.  the one of two opposing bars (  with magnet) will be mechanically moved  ( by two hands or other means)   in one by one  fashion, for  any distance  e.g 1/8" and than  closes and than other bar opens the rectangle.
4.  the one or two of the other  bars have coil winded on itself. That is the output coil
5.  the more rapid is moment of creating   air gap the more current is flowing inside the  coil. That corresponds to  square impulse from my video.
As magnetizable  member instead of that what was exposed above , ferrite can be used as well but than I will have problem with explanation..
What the heck the energy comes from. The only answer would be NMR and transmutation.
6. At some point when you move the bars you  may see that slight delay between  synchronized moving of one bar when the other is open  creates different  response of the output coil.
7. that is not so easy to do it as you deal with   magnetized bars or just magnets.
That is why we use reluctance switches.
Part of the   energy  induced in the output coil provides  energy   back to reluctance switches making the device self operating.

I know that it sounds insane . I know it... But this is how  the present invention is  described.
In Lithuania Experiment we did not use any magnets but we switched  magnetic flux in the ferrite ring the yoke.


So if you want to compare:

- in Lithuania experiment we got up to 1kW out of  few mW ( but if measured by two generators  power consumption 2x5W=10W (CCW/CW winding and right resonance on ferrite yoke )and ground wire
- in Teds device   two generators are used  1A, 1V=1W  and output is 1500V 1 to 10A= minimum 1.5kW maximum 15kW  ground wire  I works also without it. but not as well.( ferrite  or iron)
- in Akula device  two generators are used and ferrite yoke and  ground wire
- in SR    device   two generators  are used and ferrite  kielbasa and  ground wire
- in Kapanadze    two generators/ motors are used                 and ground wire ( tent)( the iron core was not exposed)
- in Kapanadze    two generators/ in form of one motor with two windings and bank of capacitors making an impulse  and ground wire ( the iron core was not exposed)
- in Kapanadze    two generators/ in form of 3 motors with   two  windings per motor (3phase) and bank of capacitors making an impulse  and ground wire ( the iron core was not exposed)
-in Viziv we deal with HV as we do in the rest of the listed  devices. and the ground wire and  ( the iron core was not exposed).
We may assume that all of it is  verse or reverse  of primary Tesla concept
 

and the  mechanism is the same  the fuel is ............. do not forget about  ground wire
 As I said magnet does not give anything out  and in some cases is not important.
 the flux is important!!!!! and the  rate  of change.
As a generator  we can use:
- Mechanical rotary  dual switch  and 1A  1V source of DC.
- separate windings of electrical motor or motors.
- mechanical  device creating  air gap.
- some form of adapted flyback with air gap
-two  signal  generators ( programmed function generator) minimum 1V , 1A
- one signal  generator (with  two  programmed function generator outputs) minimum 1V , 1A
- mechanical dielectric  flat rotating  disc with  ferrite inserts. in close proximity to the  ferrite in question  0.001"
-and something that I did not tel you yet.. But it  is possible that  some of you do not care.

As a reluctance switches we can use:
- manual  hand pulling on and off the bar with the magnet or magnet bar
- method described in my video with  slot inside ferrite or iron
- something that I did not tell you about, as of yet


By preliminary advice given to me, I can even have device presented only on basis of" skilled in art"
One of requirements  of Patent office is that in order for the application to be approved as a patent  ,the description must be explained  to the point  at
which a person skilled in art  is able to replicate it.
By that anyone can present working device without intention to sale it and/or benefit from it in any way.
At this particular  case none of Teds Patents( only one in this area  granted) collides with such test and presentation.
In case of patent applications the  intellectual  art and/or any form of intellectual property is protected as the rights to priority but doesn't have  privileges of patent.
So any device made prior to official patent  can be build and presented for number of reasons.
My reason is only  educational in nature.


Everything will be by the rules and  according to regulations.
It  possibly be the best to do in form of video.

Dear AlienGrey this is just peanuts when compared toTariel based  concept.
But yes Ted's device alone  would  make «Северный поток — 2» not needed pile of waste.

Wesley
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that applies to all videos/posts/ notes/ comments  of mine.

« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 04:26:17 AM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1416 on: December 08, 2018, 01:07:12 AM »
 There is something in addition to my previous post.

If you want to maximize the effect than you need  that  material that was shown in my video click here:
https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=504


Wesley

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« Reply #1417 on: December 08, 2018, 06:39:02 AM »
I suggest combining streams in such a simple way. Why shouldn't it work? We don't have to change the polarization just to enable one field.


Hi r2fpl,

Like your idea - analysis - simulation. Your probably aware that I promote CAE as it seems to
be the next logical step to our finding the roots to this free excess energy.

Here's a paper you might find interesting:
"Hybrid Reluctance Machines with U-Shaped  Electromagnets and Permanent Magnets"
https://upcommons.upc.edu/bitstream/handle/2117/83433/436-15-andrada.pdf
In particular Fig 1. (A and B) and Figs 15., 16, 17.

TIP:  (in case your not familiar), to search for related patents go to https://patents.google.com/

In the search window simply enter the key words relating to your search,
for example: "permanent magnet reluctance switching stationary generator" (without the quotes),
also, check the "light bulb" to the right (should be default ON);
and the "grad cap" if you want non-patent literature.

Example - Some related patents:

US6362718B1   Motionless electromagnetic generator
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/31/3b/ba/b873f8fea482c7/US6362718.pdf

US4006401A  Electromagnetic generator  [can't help but love this one!] 1975-12-12 
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f3/22/c6/1fd63bdf889b9c/US4006401.pdf

US20070242406A1   Electricity generating apparatus utilizing a single magnetic flux path 
[posted previous in question to Wesley]
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/7c/4f/fd/c4741774526b59/US20070242406A1.pdf 

Good luck and have a great weekend!

SL

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« Reply #1418 on: December 08, 2018, 11:01:49 AM »
SolarLab: Thanks !

I did 3 simulations to confirm the paths and of course everything had to agree.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 02:06:45 PM by r2fpl »

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« Reply #1419 on: December 08, 2018, 01:00:50 PM »
The simulation confirms the conventional functioning of the MEG. The flux path depends on the permeability.
The interesting question concerning energy is the mutual coupling between the switching coils and the output coils, and the energy wasted to change the permeability.
That's what I ask myself 10 years ago and that I tested. The answer is that the conventional functioning was confirmed, we have a set of coupled coils with a core of non constant permeability which doesn't change anything in the energy conservation.


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« Reply #1420 on: December 08, 2018, 01:50:32 PM »
Thank you both of you guys.
.. honestly thank you for your contribution../..
please do it again:
in configuration as in Ted's patent application

1. as  shown  below.
2. as shown below but with  two  other  coils included( not  in the picture)
3. as shown below but showing what is happening exactly
here: https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=234
Note: please position the two magnets exactly as shown in  picture below in relation to C bracket.
That means :
C bracket  has two magnets on the inner side and than  the rings are touching the magnets .
So the moment of switching  is important.
The claim from patent application says about  1500V 1 to 10A  out of 1V 1 to 10 A
So take the lowest number from  the drawing  shown here :
https://youtu.be/DNxob3yY4LE?t=433
 it says  after 100ms=250V 2A
 or any gain ... just any



After You do it, I'll  try to be ready for another one.
It may take  some time but not much.



 

Wesley
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« Reply #1421 on: December 08, 2018, 02:08:51 PM »
Wesley,

See again picture. I updated it because I did not show that there are magnets in there anymore.

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« Reply #1422 on: December 08, 2018, 07:35:06 PM »
Hi all,

Just to add to the whole thing - when you split operation into 2 parts:
1) method of causing magnetic flux path change (multiple patents applications)
2) method of extracting energy from magnetic flux path change (no patent applications so far)

The second one is obvious and is root cause why all patent applications going old as https://figueragenerator.wordpress.com/patents/patent-44267-year-1908/ are incomple for practical applications...

Cheers!

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« Reply #1424 on: December 08, 2018, 11:04:03 PM »
for these in both English and Russian.
who are interested with  NMR as that was  assigned to Lithuania  Experiment

English  version:
https://ia600604.us.archive.org/23/items/HighResolutionNuclearMagneticResonance/PopleSchneiderBernstein-HighResolutionNuclearMagneticResonance.pdf

Russian  Version:
https://books.google.com.ua/books?id=EJfQDAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&hl=ru#v=onepage&q&f=false

Please   let me know if these links opens for you with no problem , or I need to  give you  alternate link.

Wesley

 

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