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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1146302 times)

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #600 on: November 29, 2018, 01:02:59 PM »


 MIT paper.  from 1996.
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html

So is  Surface  wave and  one of its forms  Zenneck Wave

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Here is  some basic for you my friend to study :
1.https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave
2. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf
   
3. this article is easy , and you know most of it but it is good as refreshment:  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/
4. I have found  specially for you easy way to  compare your  comment about MIT 1996 to today's  opinion  in regards to subject in question.
  http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf
after you finish  all above  than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=wIIABIU3tRw
and than go here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTZ9SLux6OA&feature=youtu.be
and than go here:
http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc





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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #601 on: November 29, 2018, 05:54:41 PM »

http://www.aces-society.org/includes/downloadpaper.php?of=J2003N-S6P13&nf=59bf91af42aa7fd4fdbdf04b7b9bd2dc
by Department of Electrical Engineering at United Arab Emirates University - University of Sharjah.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20140252886A1/enbut
what about  the sphere or  two spheres inside the sphere ( earth/ ionosphere)  https://electronicspani.com/spherical-capacitor/

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en and picture below
This is also Viziv!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #602 on: November 29, 2018, 11:25:41 PM »
Part #6  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :

- principal  secrets of the Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.

 Conditions: to lunch Zenneck surface Wave
1. Tesla coil like structure can be  build using two capacitors.( e.g spheres) ( or more)
These capacitors are placed vertically  in  line  one above the other [in the imaginary  line perpendicular to the ground ( earth)]
 adjustments shown on the picture makes Zenneck wave

2. Mirror image of the charges  in the two spheres is created in the ground.

3. Regular Electromagnetic Wave is alive "forever" once is transmitted.
    surface  wave dies when the switch of the transmitter is switched OFF.


Selected by date chronology  of posts  about  VIziv  estimated half a billion  US $ investment in energy transfer without the wire.
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527386/#msg527386
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527435/#msg527435

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #603 on: November 30, 2018, 11:45:53 AM »
A Zenneck wave spreads from the source like the wave generated by a falling stone on the water surface. Then its energy density decreases in 1/r².
A soliton wave maintains its shape and its energy while progressing.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #604 on: November 30, 2018, 07:08:52 PM »
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Tariel was right.
Energy is from around us.
That does not contradict anything that was published by Viziv and Corum brothers.
Corum Brothers have found  part  of that  what was presented to us by Tariel Kapanadze
Vasmus, Anonim, SR, Chubanidze, Akula, Ruslan. and many others.
However Corum brothers did it late in terms of patent application.( expired 20 years patent life - 1988 ) and not finishing or abandoning  application.
Tariel  Kapanadze Patent application  was  filed  in 2008.

 every m  vertically from earth to ionosphere has potential 100V /m
10m=1000V
100m=10 000V
1000m=100 000V
at the height of typical airplane  flight  it is
12000m= 1 200 000V

Earth is natural  waveguide. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waveguide
The earth is  in form of circular closed  donut/doughnut or  waveguide
Waveguide guides electromagnetic wave at certain given conditions.
giving to that  form of  electromagnetic wave desired shape!!!!! ( squeezing it, forming it)- inhibiting it in given direction.
Electromagnetic wave is  showed here( read text under video frame) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFBHmG6gtIU
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In 1864, James Clerk Maxwell mathematically predicted the existence of electromagnetic waves. An electromagnetic wave consists of two oscillating fields, one electric and one magnetic, which propagate in space carrying energy. These two fields lie in orthogonal planes and therefore an electromagnetic wave is called plane-polarized.
In that waveguide you have nonuniform presence of charges manifesting itself  often in form of lightnings.
One single   lightning triggers  series of lightnings in waveguide around the earth , and the more lightnings are triggered , the more of avalanche of lightnings is created.
At one point conditions in that waveguide does not permit for that avalanche to be continued.
When Lightning strikes  it converts  potential energy into  kinetic energy..
That form factor however  is now not an electrostatic charge but AC .
Whenever we deal with with  AC in open space we deal with photon as a carrier  of energy .
Photons can not  interact with each other  apart  themselves, they can not see each other  but they  are properties of the  electromagnetic wave.
Electromagnetic wave of given frequency can not interact by that with any other  electromagnetic wave  but...
BUT... BUT... (Cerenkov radiation)
please do not go to link  from the quote you do not need it now.
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For a wave that experiences anomalous dispersion and propagates with the external magnetostatic field, distinguishing features of the energy-flux velocity and the ratio of the electric to the magnetic energy density as functions of the wave number  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/227230220_Slow_electromagnetic_waves_in_tangentially_magnetized_ferromagnetic_films
( this quote from above will be needed for you to understand that there is  use of ferrites/ ferromagnetic films or ferrite-like materials used by other people who filed  patent applications for their FE  or simply used it in their devices)

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I wet to South of America to eliminate/ or conform one  of variables of the puzzle.
That was two ground structure. My posts are posted here. You need just to find them.
That gave me information about the structure of positioning of vital elements of the device.
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So Slow wave is created  by interaction of two waves.
Well  two waves can not interact with each other  right?
You can’t slow down one EM wave using another wave, but you can slow down the wave’s energy flow.
This sets up a standing wave
https://www.quora.com/Can-you-slow-down-an-EM-wave-with-radio-waves

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The same way  the  lightning strike is created " in the middle of nowhere" but inside of earth ionosphere  earth guide
We can create electromagnetic wave causing  standing wave  be alive.c  We are at the same exactly waveguide
And as a result of that we create.. what.. lightning around the earth?       NO.. no no...

We can build antenna that is small  and  does not look like an antenna .. but more like Tariel Kapanadze coil
 and this antenna is made out of:
- clockwise
-and counterclockwise coils and
- bifilar coil structure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifilar_coil
Note : most of experimenters  who made  successfully working device  and/or these who filed patent application, do not understand what energy is coming from including Tariel Kapanadze.
Please recall my quote about monkey from my previous  post
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It is well known in the electromagnetic arts that efficient, linear antennas are usually constructed from elements having lengths that are significant portions of a free-space wavelength at the operating frequency.
It is also known that if those lengths are made equal to integer multiples of one quarter wavelength, standing waves may be induced in the antenna.
It is also understood that operation of an antenna at one of its self-resonance frequencies, if possible, is desirable to increase antenna efficiency.
At the self-resonant frequencies, standing waves are produced on antennas and the reactive component of the feedpoint impedance is zero.
This efficient operation contrasts with the familiar "matched" operation where the impedance of an antenna is conjugately matched by an
external network to the impedance of a transmitter or receiver to improve performance. Reactive power losses are experienced both in
the antenna and in the matching network, when a matching network is used, so that overall system efficiency is not maximized.
It is also established that horizontally polarized electromagnetic waves suffer greater ground wave propagation losses than do vertically polarized waves.
Therefore, vertically polarized waves are preferred over horizontally polarized waves for communication over the surface of the earth.


The antenna can be in form of torus or cylinder forming toroidal, helical electrically conducting path.
So lets talk for a moment about torus shape instead of Kapanadze cylindrical shape of the clockwise and counterclockwise coil.
 
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In a simple case, the structure has a single conductive path, such as a copper wire or other electrical conductor, disposed on the surface of a torus in uniformly spaced turns.
The axis of the helical path lies on a circle which is described by the major radius of the torus.
(A toroidal surface is generated by the rotation of a closed planar figure about a rotational axis lying outside the figure.
When that figure is a circle, the surface generated is a torus.
For a torus, the distance between the rotational axis and the center of the rotated circle is the torus' major radius.)
When the conducting path on the toroidal surface is electrically excited in a pre-selected frequency range, a pair of slow electromagnetic waves
 i.e., ones with propagation velocities less then the speed of light, propagates along the path.
At the resonance frequencies of the toroidal path, an inhibited-velocity standing wave is established along the electromagnetically-closed path, which in this elementary example is approximately equal to the circumference of the torus

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That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.
Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
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By appropriately feeding the contrawound paths, an electrically small, self-resonant antenna providing purely vertically polarized radiation having an omnidirectional radiation pattern may be realized.
One half of the electrically conducting path may be eliminated in the structure by employing the image theory technique.
A conducting image surface electrically supplies the missing portion of the path.
The image surface may be a conducting sheet, a screen or wires  like counterpoise
arranged to act electrically as a conducting sheet, or may be the earth.
That gives to the device potential to be  in motion like   powering the car, boat or ship.
by means of counterpoise/ sheet of metal/ screen of wires.
Antennas  as small as  few-thousands of the free space wavelength  have been build and successfully operating with submarines
But they did not use the image concept and they  have been employed to resonate in mode suitable to energy extraction. 

A particularly intriguing application of the structure is the construction and operation of a waveguide probe at the primary or higher mode resonance frequencies of the waveguide formed by the surface of the earth and ionosphere.
Because these resonance frequencies, the so-called Schumann resonances, are so low, e.g., about 8, 14 and 30 Hz,
 it has not heretofore been practical even to attempt to build a self-resonant structure to operate at any of the frequencies.

Although a waveguide probe resonantly operating at one of the Schumann resonance frequencies would be physically large,
it would still be electrically small and therefore realizable, as well as efficient.
Because propagation losses are so low at the primary Schumann resonance frequency
(below 0.25 dB per Mm according to published data), signals at that frequency may be transmitted to any point on the earth without significant attenuation.

So how about if we  try to receive  this  energy bouncing in the waveguide by relatively small antenna that  was named by Corum  Brothers the probe
using standing wave, and very small antenna that does not look like antenna...
Well this requires from me to show you  3 patent application not  made by Corum Brothers
including Tariel Kapanadze structure.

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An electrically small, efficient electromagnetic structure, that may be used as an antenna or waveguide probe, having an electromagnetically closed, velocity-inhibiting conducting path,
for supporting a standing, inhibited-velocity wave in response to the flow of an electrical current through the path and a process for establishing the standing wave.
Use of the structure is particularly advantageous at the lower end of the electromagnetic spectrum, where it produces purely vertically polarized radiation
in directional and omnidirectional patterns. 
The structure may be used to
excite and extract energy from  the earth-ionosphere cavity at the Schumann resonances.
the exact quote of one of  papers is:
"electromagnetic structures that can function as antennas for
/../ receiving electromagnetic energy and as waveguide probes in cavities for /../ extraction of electromagnetic energy."

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Wesley



 
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #606 on: December 01, 2018, 02:11:14 AM »
Thanks for the friendly clarification I'm glad that's cleared up  :D :D have a good day there.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #607 on: December 01, 2018, 02:53:00 AM »
 I feel like I need to repeat for you AlienGreey  how to achieve small form factor
of the receiving antenna ( Tariel Kapanadze coil):

That wavelength  of (wire) conducting structure wounded on the torus is shorter than a free-space wavelength at the frequency of resonance.
Therefore, at the primary resonance frequency, the toroidal structure behaves electrically as if its circumference were one free-space wavelength
long when that circumference is actually physically smaller than one free-space wavelength.

Thus an electrically small, resonant structure is achieved
That is why Tariel Kapanadze coil is so small.
By combining a number of the toroidal conducting paths just described and by controlling the relative phases of the electromagnetic energy supplied to each path,
various embodiments of the structure and various antenna radiation patterns may be created.
the conducting paths have opposing senses, i.e., are contrawound.
(wounded  counterclockwise)

-conducting paths
is more than  1 path. but I'm talking about just two
- phases 
of each path  in relation to each other are the most important ( crucial).
- and to make it working
you need countrawound,  but there are shapes of an antenna that do not need that. however they need to be  bifilar.


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use of ferrite helps but is not always mandatory  that is why  most of FE devices uses ferrites.
- when traditional material if regular  transformer made from plates,  is used, or the core  is wounded as donut of continuous circularstrip   
one of techniques
   dividing/ splitting magnetic flux into two controlled path can be applied by 
making  slot in the middle of the ferrite core  and pushing in it additional  winding at 90 degrees.
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #608 on: December 01, 2018, 10:30:14 AM »
 look up.
this set of  ferrite connection is taken from patent application   not related to Corum brothers
I will make separate video about it and it claims FE 10W input  to 15kW output
The reason of me placing it here is because it uses the same means( mechanism) of  flux control as it is used by probe antenna

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #609 on: December 01, 2018, 01:31:00 PM »
Wesley Thanks for device layout the two toroids are easy to get hold of but the U shape would have to be a custom device, however,
would it be possible to mount the permanent magnets on the top of the toroids and a flat ferrite rod over the top depending on the thickness
of the wire wrap.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #610 on: December 01, 2018, 04:51:52 PM »

Two coils are activated at  positive part of impulse and than  the other  two
So switching is done between each set of two coils.
that means first impulse  activates the same first  set of coils
Magnetic flux is switched in direction flowing on doted line now.
Than  second impulse ACTIVATES  the same  second set of coils.
Switching continues the same   way for impulse 3 and 4 // 4 and 6// and so on.

 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #611 on: December 03, 2018, 11:21:33 PM »
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor

 Gyula

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #612 on: December 04, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »
Hi Wesley,

The patent application was familiar to me and was mentioned here:
https://overunity.com/8597/solid-state-orbo-system/msg224747/topicseen/#msg224747 

full text and drawings for those interested:
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090096219A1/
   
Perhaps a related or useful paper is here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/224289652_Analysis_of_a_Virtual_Air_Gap_Variable_Reactor

 Gyula
I do very much appreciate your comment here :)
give me few hours you will know why.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #613 on: December 04, 2018, 11:05:38 AM »
« Last Edit: December 04, 2018, 02:37:41 PM by stivep »

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« Reply #614 on: December 04, 2018, 03:07:07 PM »
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