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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1170 on: November 27, 2018, 07:27:22 PM »
Didn't Tesla give the Military junta Harrp ? and now it can heat the upper atmosphere up till it extends to about 8 miles in space making a hole
that's a few miles across, not to mention the deliberate global worming yeah a great idea when it's given to idiots.  :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
My dear Friend .
I do not know who told you to make this post in this particular from.
I do not know what kind of pressure form, what   propaganda, or incentive, made you to bend your knees upon reaching the ground.
All you posted is outdated Чушь, муть и компот.
At first       my dear  friend  it is  HAARP not Harrp
At second   my dear friend  HAARP  does not exist.
At third nothing that  is connected to  HAARP makes any 8 miles heated upper atmosphere  .
Please educate yourself prior  to posting BS here.
I wish you the best.
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May 14, 2014 HAARP
The U.S. Air Force gave official notice to Congress Wednesday  to dismantle the $300 million High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program in Gakona.
The shutdown of HAARP, a project was created by the late Sen. Ted Stevens when he wielded great control over the U.S. defense budget,

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1170 on: November 27, 2018, 07:27:22 PM »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1171 on: November 27, 2018, 08:11:05 PM »
Part #4  Zenneck surface Wave for beginners :
this part will be re edited  during today and more information will be  included.
For these who do not yet realize how important  this study is to the whole world please go to  links  at the bottom of this post.below:
Transmitter and receiver of Zenneck Wave.
Today I'm presenting schematic  and Transmitter of Zenneck Surface wave.
Not much to say. Think about AC source 213
-as  multiform and multiphase signal  of the same amplitude and of very high power.
or
-as  the same form but  multiphase signal  of the same amplitude and of very high power.


Power is send by energy units per time frame,  presumably  without losses.  (Wesley:  Well I have problem to  accept it  as of yet )
This is Viziv secret  to scramble access to this energy by creating algorithm that must be used by receiving station/ electric motor ship/ electric car/
to access the energy transmitted in  this form.

In addition internet and  all communication( TV/telephony/ digital)  including some form of submarine communication  may take advantage of use of the same means of surface wave.



Selected by date chronology  of posts  about  VIziv  estimated half a billion  US $ investment in energy transfer without the wire.

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526668/#msg526668
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526966/#msg526966
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527019/#msg527019
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527029/#msg527029
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527045/#msg527045
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527048/#msg527048
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527240/#msg527240
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527282/#msg527282
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527284/#msg527284 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1172 on: November 27, 2018, 08:53:35 PM »
   Let see,  how many "ifs" did you mention...?   
   IF so,  like Forest said, that may not be free energy, as such.  Unlike most of Tariel's other builds, that he had shown self-running over the years. And he is still broke and alive and possibly continuing on with bigger and better builds. He's not dead, yet.
   But, fear has now driven most all of the self-runners inventors, underground.  Except jb-n107lab. Last heard from 4 months ago.
   Don't you think that Russia and their secret labs and bases have much more advanced technology now than Tariel's homemade previously shown inventions using recycled junk parts???  When will those secret devices be disclosed?
   Viziv is not going to be free, with that much money invested, and the people that are working for them. They are into it for the money.  Unlike Tesla.
   
 
No but jb-n107lab has taken his self-running video's down he hardly has any vid's now, there was some Russan or Lithuanian guy sounded like Dolometo
I can't find his website anymore and others too.
point is is it because they are all fakes as Hoppy says or did they work ? Still as you say it all helps to pass the time  ;D ;D

PS thanks for skimatic info on part 4 will look through hyper links with interest.

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« Reply #1173 on: November 27, 2018, 10:25:02 PM »
No but jb-n107lab has taken his self-running video's down he hardly has any vid's now, there was some Russan or Lithuanian guy sounded like Dolometo
I can't find his website anymore and others too.
point is is it because they are all fakes as Hoppy says or did they work ? Still as you say it all helps to pass the time  ;D ;D

PS thanks for skimatic info on part 4 will look through hyper links with interest.

   AG:  Here is jb-n107lab youtube site:           https://youtu.be/QGo0Dd663ow    Last video was posted about 4 months ago. I think that all his videos are there, still.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1174 on: November 27, 2018, 11:03:48 PM »
   AG:  Here is jb-n107lab youtube site:           https://youtu.be/QGo0Dd663ow the Last video was posted about 4 months ago. I think that all his videos are there, still.
tHAT IS WIERD! with your hyperlink it goes to it but if I view his videos it does not list them, unless i grab the video name and search for that name and
it does come up with the three-part 7,6 and 4, if you listen carefully there is a tone with a slower pulse (spark gap cap dump of energy into the coil, well that's
what it sounds like.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1175 on: November 28, 2018, 10:13:35 AM »
   That's unfortunate Wesley, that you "can do nothing with it".   Tesla could.   I know what to do with it, so did Kapanadze, but you still don't believe him, nor me. That's ok, I'm not trying to convince anyone.   I know there are others out there that will understand, and know what to do with it. Concerning where any extra energy comes from.   It's the action that counts, words are not enough to see empirical results. And guys like Kapanadze are where the action is at. Good thing that he knew what to do with it.  You saw the proof first hand, that was not enough for you? 
   
Nick,
Folk are very vulnerable to being visually and mentally deceived especially when wanting to believe is very strong. Wesley did not have the opportunity to technically examine in depth any of Kapanadze's devices. What can Wesley or you 'do with it', when 'its' nature and modus-operandi is still not clearly established.

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« Reply #1176 on: November 28, 2018, 01:16:55 PM »
   The mode of operation has been discussed a thousand times.  As you know, my feelings are that the self runners are real.   Yet not one person has built a true TK replication. As we still don't know all the details, like what is in the round can, etz...   No one has built a true Akula replication, neither.  Everyone has made their own versions. Non working versions.
Except for Adrian's two working replications.
   And he is now dead.  Or so they say. Yet, his device should be analyzed further, to see if it really did work as shown, or not.   But, something is not right with all this. And it looks like things are going backwards, instead. And we are on the losing end, at this point.

   I have not given up on this, and may be the only one that still has a version sitting on my work bench. And I'm probably going to get back to it. Soon. Just need some more motivation, at this point. And some other guys to work with, like Itsu, apecore, Jeg, etz...   I guess that we didn't expect this to be such a tough nut to crack.  It is what it is. But, all the working versions were made using just junk parts. So, this can't be that tough a thing to solve.   Perhaps Wesley should offer some money to Adrians family, for one of his devices, instead. That's "what he could do with it".   But, maybe his devices are as dead and gone as he is.  But, I doubt it.                                                                                                         Nick
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   I'm almost done with the Dr. Stiffler replication of the double diode loop tests. Which also do not self run, nor achieve OU, for me. And the Doc doesn't really give a shit about helping out anyone else but himself. Or so it seams... but, he couldn't hold on to his "secret" any longer. But, his secret does not self run the device, nor show OU.  At least not yet.  So, for now I'm about done with it. And it looks like he is too.
   
   
 

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« Reply #1177 on: November 28, 2018, 01:31:32 PM »
Wesley did not have the opportunity to technically examine in depth any of Kapanadze's devices.
What can Wesley or you 'do with it', when 'its' nature and modus-operandi is still not clearly established.

Hoppy
I went quite deep into TK devices.
But I'm surprised that you did not.

We both could not explain origin of energy used  by TK.

We both know that TK device use HV
We both  know that TK used Tesla coil with variations.
We both know that it uses set of coils
We both know the each from us has different depth of knowledge in  art of TK. And I may be in possession of crucial evidence /or not, but you do not know that.
We both know that TK device  uses  generators of signal  interacting with ......

Yes  and here  you Hoppy disagree :
We both  know that TK uses ground wire / or two
We both  know that we do not know  what the ground is for. ( you could use artificial ground as counterpoise if you will)
We both  know that you  do not know much about patents of Viziv and its concept of work

so by simple  looking at  of Viziv  patents you surprisingly see:
       the  same  -one or two grounds, Tesla coil
and  the  same -HV cap as in  Kapanadze  structure.

and now only  I from both of us  decided to question  again :
what the  energy  of TK device comes from?
Earth ground has potential of 0 but actually  earth ground  has negative potential in relation to both:
1. earth core
2 cap or 1/2 cap in 1 or 2 ground structure.( top Capacitor and "top" Capacitor)
and now look at the drawing again

None of you guys  thought about surface wave
I did...
well...  I did  but I went into  wrong path between TEM modes

Right after island  presentation of TK.
I admit that I did  it in brackets of TEM not in TM or TE.
And yes I should of do it long time ago.

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« Reply #1178 on: November 28, 2018, 02:39:18 PM »
Hi there both  I'm good on deciphering block diagrams  ::) and it would be nice to get something working while I'm still on the planet  ;D
The Tesla coil and circuit driver can really have a marked affect depending on frequency and or tuning which i don't want to get into just here
but know how experience can be critical Wesley have you any build detailed info we can have like tube dia wire gauge turns spacing ect
drive circuits and frequency and or pulse mark space ratio ect?
many thanks, AG

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« Reply #1179 on: November 28, 2018, 02:44:25 PM »
   The mode of operation has been discussed a thousand times.  As you know, my feelings are that the self runners are real.   Yet not one person has built a true TK replication. As we still don't know all the details, like what is in the round can, etz...   No one has built a true Akula replication, neither.  Everyone has made their own versions. Non working versions.
Except for Adrian's two working replications.
                                                                                    Nick
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   I'm almost done with the Dr. Stiffler replication of the double diode loop tests. Which also do not self run, nor achieve OU, for me. And the Doc doesn't really give a shit about helping out anyone else but himself. Or so it seams... but, he couldn't hold on to his "secret" any longer. But, his secret does not self run the device, nor show OU.  At least not yet.  So, for now I'm about done with it. And it looks like he is too.
 
Nick,

Even Wesley, although having seen a Kapanadze device(s) visually close-up, as a scientist, surely cannot possibly be certain beyond any doubt that they are genuine, simply because he was denied an in depth technical examination of the devices. Visual evidence and verbal claims alone as proof of self-running, do not stand-up in a technical court.

I'm surprised you ever thought that any of Dr. Stiffler's devices were self runners. He has never stated that any of them self run. Is this just wishful thinking on your part, or can you show some evidence that he has ever claimed any of them self run? If you really want to get some decent lighting from your LED strings, then you need to realise that LED's are current driven devices, so irrespective of the supply voltage level, if the power supply cannot deliver sufficient current to drive the LED's to the brightness level you are happy with, then the power supply is the problem.

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« Reply #1180 on: November 28, 2018, 03:03:42 PM »
   Hoppy, and AG:
   The basic idea of the Doc's infinity light project was for it to run, forever.  But, maybe he did not have the guts to just say so.   PSEC systems were also self running, needing only a single ground line.
   Further diode loop systems needed no connected ground line, just a clip lead. And the Doc would never say something that would just get him in trouble, and just result in more static against his work. So, he words his sentences, carefully.
But, I think that the plan was not just to save on a few mAs, in order to economize on lighting his gutted leds.
        What ever the actual purpose of the ground line is used for on the Akula/Ruslan devices, it does appear to be needed. Although virtual grounds may also work to some degree.   My opinion is that the clip leads or earth ground line, or virtual grounds, are just a return path for single line output, and open circuits to be able work better, more efficiently. Akula had shown that the ground line is not absolutely needed. His first device would run, even with NO ground line connection.
   jb-n107lab, is the last guy to show a self runner, yet he didn't say it was a self runner. Did he? He didn't say much of anything. Perhaps that is one of the ways to get around showing ones projects, without being killed.
   hoppy, I don't spend any time discussing why a self runner might be faked. But instead,  on why they work.

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« Reply #1181 on: November 28, 2018, 03:21:55 PM »
   AG:
   The basic idea of the Doc's infinity light project was for it to run, forever.  But, maybe he did not have the guts to just say so.   PSEC systems were also self-running, needing only a single ground line.
   Further diode loop systems needed no connected ground line, just a clip lead.
   What ever the actual purpose of the ground line is used for on the Akula/Ruslan devices, it does appear to be needed. Although virtual grounds may also work to some degree.   My opinion is that the clip leads or earth ground line, or virtual grounds, are just a return path for single line output open circuits to be able to work better. Akula has shown that they are not absolutely needed. His first device would run, even with a ground line connection.
   jb-labs is the last guy to show a self-runner, yet he didn't say it was a self-runner. Did he?
No he didn't but it was, there was another video I asked him about you could see it charged an ( HV cap and spark gap driving his coil with a pulse) he had it driving an incandescent bulb and a large LED panel using an earth he wouldn't disclose anything but there is a video showing an LC spark gap device that works.

Get something like that going and it might be possible to use an SCR instead of an SP gap as Guy on 'tech ingredients' on youtube shows

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« Reply #1182 on: November 28, 2018, 04:12:46 PM »
   There seams to be several ways to skin the cat.  One of jb-lab videos is very similar to what Akula had suggested that T-1000 should try out first. The spark gap type, as it is a little simpler design. What T did with this idea, who knows.
   
   Adrian was able to get his first rig going, also, with just the simple Kacher/grenade circuit. I did not have any luck with it, I believe due to inadequate tuning between the two circuits. Especially in the frequency match of both the Kacher secondary coil, to the grenade coils. Perhaps Adrian had them better matched.
   This circuit below from jb-n107lab, was a combination of several previous designs, like from SR 193, Akula, TK, Ruslan, and others.   https://youtu.be/Zl_QdiGsY8Y
   He just states that it has dim low output, and flickering.  While ignoring to mention or confirm that it was self running, once started with just a little voltage, and 0 amps.  It needed no specially designed tv yoke, no antenna coil, no mystery materials,  plain and simple. Another invention, that worked.
  However, his last video, linked above, was his last version, which is further based on the Akula/Ruslan set up, using a yoke, antenna coils, smaller caps, etz...   Seams like most self running devices have gone through similar upgrades, over time.

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« Reply #1183 on: November 28, 2018, 04:55:20 PM »
   Hoppy:   The idea with Dr. Stiffler's "diode loop" is that there is no need to provide the needed amperage to the leds.
But with just some fluffy voltage, and tiny amount of mAs, the diode loop along with the gutted AC led bulbs themselves would provide and manufacture their own juice to power the bulbs. "Energy out of thin Air". And that part of it does work as he has stated. Unlike the 0.7v drop that most normal diodes circuits would lose, on each diode placed in line. But, other than that, I don't see all that much benefit, nor is there the normal lumen levels at the bulbs, either. Yet my diode loop system is self running while connected to my small solar panel which maintains the batteries up, each day. And may be a more economical way to go, than using just the simple bulbs and batteries. This is all very hard to prove, because once you connect anything up to the circuit, like scopes, multi meters, etz... You just messed up, how it all works.  So, in case you don't understand where the Doc is coming from:  https://youtu.be/8VRqf8E8VIM

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« Reply #1184 on: November 28, 2018, 05:37:01 PM »
Nick,

Dr Stiffler refers here to: "a special frequency that's been known about for hundreds of years being picked up by his PSEC. Self-running - yes, so long as the signal is maintained. Have you worked out what this signal is yet? I would stick with your solar panel to get sufficient milliamps needed to light up your LED's to a usable brightness.

 

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