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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1125 on: November 14, 2018, 02:10:58 AM »
corrected link:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf

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Barlow and Brown define a surface wave as
"...one that propagates along an interface between two different media without radiation,
such radiation being construed to mean energy converted from the surface-wave field to some other form (Reference 7)."

Since this definition covers a lot of territory, one of the major problems
with the surface-wave literature is
the proliferation of different names for what is essentially the same physical phenomenon (References 2 and 8 ) 

These  waves:
-Zenneck,
-Norton,
-Sommerfeld-Goubau,
-inhomogeneous, -
radial,
-axial,
-azimuthal,
-lateral,
-creeping,
etc.-are all (at least in some sense) a type of or associated with a type of surface wave.

Throughout this report we will try to clarify all such terms and use them correctly
in association with the appropriate physical geometry or guiding process   

From the quote of article  (link above)
we see that:
1. Viziv used Zenneck Wave as one of the names.
2. that may be intentional as:
a- there is  little to none  publicly available  literature about it.
b.-There is  estimated half of a billion dollars  at stake  from the investors.
c.- investors must contribute     and do not understand to much
d.- public must  do not interfere and do not understand to much

2. form of phenomena in question can be ironically simple but just in some part of it
matching one basket of all of mentioned names for Zenneck waves

3.  Viziv might not have patent rights to any of  these waveforms so  how they can protect their investment?
B
y means of scrambling access to  the receiver that must match  the same algorithm
to gain access to energy that is already converted to  Zenneck wave  or any other name  they hide it  at.
By simple words:
You have Viziv transmitter and the receiver is like your satellite dish.
The satellite signal is out. All you need is to access it. and that is what you are paying for
- the code
. 
But if you just couple straight right  into the  Zenneck Wave  or whatever name you give to it they going to go bankrupt.
But if you use your own energy from your own water mill   and use Zenneck Wave as means of transportation than you can sale it to your neighbors
or power your own electric car in withing boundaries of your own area of coverage. ( city , county, state)



Picture :
Red rectangle:  explains controversy   about different names associated with Zenneck Wave
Blue rectangle: explains  simple conditions needed for Zenneck Wave and its associated  other names   for the same,  to exist.

At the bottom  of the page #4  please look at  propagation phenomena and types of waves:
-Transverse electric
-Transverse magnetic TM
Transverse magneticTM  is the wave that is  mentioned in :
 https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf
by Viziv.




And now all you need to do is:
- to use the other names used for the same and google it.
- try to find the sense and possible similarity in wording to article published by Zenneck associate
  https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf
- Try to match statements for both.
All of that  does not require knowledge, it is just simple way to compare text.

So what might be the outcome of your  work?:
- money
- ideas for new solution, competitive to Viziv.
- freedom from "energy  distribution guys"
- or the best of all.. turning it all to mutual use for general public.- if you can overcome your selfishness.

Wesley
« Last Edit: November 14, 2018, 01:15:31 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1125 on: November 14, 2018, 02:10:58 AM »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1126 on: November 14, 2018, 02:14:24 PM »
The ferro cap re-see charge circuit so what's the difference between this cap and a bunch of super caps or a load of poly film dumping it's
energy into a tank coil at the bottom of a tuned Tesla coil, to get energy out you need to put it in just remember that too frequency and
capsize are critical.
Has anyone tried using a triac instead of a spark gap that way you can lower the voltage but current can then be a problem?
Ferroelectric capacitor is a capacitor based on a ferroelectric material.
Traditional capacitors are based on dielectric materials.

1.Ferrocapacitor keeps its state  unchanged till it is changed 
 
Another "animal" that is similar to ferrocapacitor  and using using different names is:
varicap diode, varactor diode, variable capacitance diode, variable reactance diode or tuning diode

2   Capacitor       usually decays  in time by itself
2a Ferrocapacitor usually needs someone to push it for change.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1127 on: November 14, 2018, 04:04:01 PM »

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969

     
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Excitation of the Zenneck wave is examined for both finite and infinit vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground.
The infinite vertical aperture with a Zenneck wave variation is found to excite only the Zenneck wave with NO radiation field.
The finite vertical aperture excites a field which is similar to the Zenneck wave near the aperture but resembles the usual ground wave at large distances.
Numerical results for various aperture heights are given for frequencies of 1 and 10 MHz. Both homogeneous ground and sea water paths are considered
.
From that we know that vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground. -Are the one responsible for phenomena known as Zenneck wave with NO radiation field

http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf    This is original uncut German article in English translated by
James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC
February 17, 2015
-we need to remember that this article was translated by the same Corum that is involved in Viziv.
So this is the evidence of logical path of the guy who was originator of all of it. He than attracted to the idea big guys with big money.
What we do here is fallowing his steps to collect all of pieces of puzzle. We may call it also stepping on his toes.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1128 on: November 14, 2018, 05:25:58 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet

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« Reply #1129 on: November 14, 2018, 05:47:56 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet
I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1130 on: November 16, 2018, 09:13:06 PM »

Zenneck wave is a well-known science.
His teacher was Sommerfled who was the originator of eigenmode theory in waveguide. So far there has not been anyone capable of disproving  any of Sommerfled's theories.

I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1131 on: November 16, 2018, 09:26:45 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet




James Corum has done a great job in proving the existence of Zenneck wave. He is also a IEEE member.

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« Reply #1133 on: November 21, 2018, 06:16:00 PM »
Hi SolarLab,

I didn't have any problem with the duplication after having realized that the cable ends must be sort-circuited, not open.
One end is connected to the FG via a coaxial T-shaped connector with a short-circuited middle input. However, my jumpers have a slight impedance so that a small part of the signal passes through and is reflected back and forth many times. For the same reason the scope probes at each end pick up the signal on the jumpers.
 
The first picture shows the comings and goings of a 16ns pulse repeated at a low rate of 797KHz so that we have time to see the reflections in the time of each period.
We can see that the attenuation at -3dB allows more than ten round trips of the pulse, which indicates low losses.

The second image is the signal of the 5 superimposed sine waves generated by the FG, at a frequency of 15.94 MHz for the lowest (the others are multiple).

The last image is the signals probed at the ends of the cable, FG side for the yellow trace, and the other for the purple trace.

The time between the maximum of one trace and the minimum of the other corresponds to the travel time of 30 ns in my 6 m line, velocity coefficient 0.66c.

This is the temporal signal while Gorchilin's animation showed the spatial representation, so it is necessary to do some mental gymnastics to understand that the two correspond, except that the amplitudes of the positive and negative oscillations are not exactly balanced, I don't know why.
Don't trust the volt level of the traces, I had a problem with a probe and the impedance multipliers of the probe are not declared correctly in the scope (but this is not related to the positive/negative imbalance).

In any case, a standing wave is always the superposition of at least two progressive waves which propagate in opposite directions. Progressive waves are always "hidden" in standing waves, so for me the Gorchilin's configuration is just a phase arrangement, it doesn't bring anything new. Spatially the energy is still static.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1134 on: November 22, 2018, 03:50:22 PM »
I have got some good results  during this trip.
Details will not be published at this time.
Massive activity  of Trolls trying to track me end up unsuccessful.
How come the small guy like me  creates so much of Trolls hysteria,
or ANY OTHER  KIND OF exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion.
So we going to slowly squeeze  Vova's sensitive spot as much..




We have two subjects in motion:
1- patent application for device using energy conversion and stating gain .
The gain is described by  factor:
input     1V 1 to 10A
output   1.5kV at 1 to 10 A
that can be understood as  at max:
10W input  and 15kW output.
Note: there is no miracle, energy must come from somewhere and be converted to usable electrical energy.
===================================================================   
2. Introduction to Zennek Wave for beginners
  Today I will discuss  only point 2 .
However for these who wants to understand   picture 1  there is enough  of revelation already.
Yes It is.
 Please concentrate on last picture of the sphere at the bottom.


 Learned:
 Ground waves are one of the types of surface waves.(  in our case- surface of the earth)
            a- Two major types of surface waves are: mechanical ( longitudinal) and electromagnetic( transverse)
            b-  Longitudinal waves are explained by classical physics.
             c-  Transverse waves are explained by quantum physics (but we will use some of classical analogy)
 

 All mechanical waves are excluded from our study.!!!
 

Propagation of  TEM Ground  Waves ( Transverse Electromagnetic Waves)
            a- TEM propagates in vertical polarization with their magnetic field horizontal and electric field vertical


Classifications without given exact critical F( frequency)  of   Surface TEM  (by ITU standard)
              a-  VHF( not applicable for  earth  Surface TEM study
             b-  medium  frequency below 3MHz HF
             c-  Low frequency LF
             d-  Very low frequency VLF
             e.- Ultra low frequency ULF (300 hertz and 3 kilohertz.
                  based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_low_frequency

 
 
We are interested with surface wave traveling in the  interface
type of  interface of Surface Wave :
               a- interface between two media
                   e.g with different dielectric constants.
                   e.g such as conductive plane and dielectric
                   e.g such as conductive wire and its dielectric coating ( coax cable)
                   e.g such as cylindrical hallow conductor or dielectric
                   e.g such as  hallow cylinder coated with thin dielectric
                   e.g such as  sphere surrounded by air/ vacuum

material to study:
Dyakonov surface waves. http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf


 
 

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1135 on: November 23, 2018, 02:15:29 AM »
Hi F6FLT,

Have to admit you kinda lost me there for a bit, until your last statement:

"In any case, a standing wave is always the superposition of at least two progressive 
waves which propagate in opposite directions. Progressive waves are always "hidden" 
in standing waves, so for me the Gorchilin's configuration is just a phase arrangement, 
it doesn't bring anything new. Spatially the energy is still static."

Exactly, nothing new here - standard RF stuff. EXCEPT at the "static" node peak of, 
for example, the current or magnetic field will fluctuate +, 0, -. Temporal static but spatially 
fluctuating to use your terms. Actually, to be correct, check the "Lines and Waves" reference given
previously, in particular Chapter 11.7 figure 11.29.

With respect to Gorchilin's Figures 1 thru 6 here    http://gorchilin.com/articles/free/magnetic_P  figures
1 through 5 are for sine wave inputs representing each of the individual harmonics that will be combined,
or used, to form the preconditioned pulse for converting a standing wave to a traveling wave.

NOW, consider Figure 6; the magnetic field moves back and forth in time; and, plus then minus spatially.

You can leverage this "movement" to couple the energy to something (maybe another coil) for extraction. 
Where the energy gain comes from is by comparing the input pulse duration [short] to the traveling wave
duration [long] (Simpson's rule - area under the curve). And/or, only having to input a conditioned pulse
once in a while; Pin. The traveling wave bounces back and forth many many times between pulses; assuming
a near lossless line (high Q) and a shorted input when no input is needed. A second coil, for example, that is
used for extraction, Pout, will receive many energy bounces for a single Pin.  Short duration Pin (lower energy)
provides extended duration Pout (higher energy).

For instance, 1Pin=12Pout, Gain=10 with losses [2 units]. Note however, the extraction coil 
(or other extraction mechanism) must not degrade, or otherwise disturb [Lenz], the reflection coil's 
traveling wave. 

Also, recall, the standing wave (sine wave input) gives 1Pin=1Pout, Gain= <1 with losses. And, as a 
side note, maybe the system can be enhanced by adding electrons into the coil(s) - a high voltage field 
for example to draw from the ground's electron source - battery source?

Anythings possible! Nope, has to be some sort of curved space, negative time dilation mechanism with 
an aether trap. Heck, a magnetic wave sloshing back and forth inside a timed (saturated) electron ion field 
would be too simple - an electronic electric generator so to speak - nay, no way, oh well it's fun to fantasize!   
More funding please... we're almost there.  :o   Don't give up or jump to conclusions until you have read
the entire site and the many references at least twice...  :)   and consumed several beverages!

When/If you get your "electronic electric generator" part functional; rather than worry about the 
exact output being able to actually drive something properly (50 or 60 Hz, 120/240VAC at 4KW), maybe a 
quick method might be to feed an off-the-shelf inverter; refer to this post:

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg525679/#msg525679  and

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg525711/#msg525711

For a bit more on the HV electron ion enhancement stuff; see the Genesis part of this post near the bottom:

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg526767/#msg526767

 
Good luck. Hope you all are having a great Thanksgiving!   And now it's time for a little power nap...zzzzz  ;D

SL
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« Reply #1136 on: November 23, 2018, 09:17:17 PM »
Reason for the study:
Viziv wireless tower to transmit energy around the earth with no wires.
due to:

 strong statement
from  Viziv officer and scientist James F. Corum, Ph.D.CPG Technologies, LLC February 17, 2015
who says  in his  paper, nothing less than - inverse square law does not apply so there are no losses. (in horizontal plane- along the earth)The exact wording used is:
Quote
if the  total  current  strength  in  every  source-segment  remains invariable  the  field strength at any distance from the source also remains alike.
The field of the Zenneck wave for a certain normalized sheath-current strength may be designated by EB, HB Let the frequency be the same as that of the dipole.   
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf

and

K.L. Corum, Brigadier General (Ret.) M.W. Miller, Ph.D., and J.F. Corum, Ph.D
SURFACE WAVES and THE‘ CRUCIAL’ PROPAGATION EXPERIMENT*
https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf
The exact wording used is:
Quote
Let us assume that such a current density has been set up along the surface of the Earth, emanating from some injection point
(This condition has been  established  in  practice  with  the  use  of Texzon’s field-matched  surface  wave  probes.)
 By  the  generalized  form  of Ohm’s law, such a current creates a radial electric field,over an     equivalent     circular     aperture of     infinite     radius     on     the     x-y     plane,
and
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Zenneck wave ( is a transmission line mode) without exciting the radiation field!


 we should  by that understand that:
-this wave is present and it is a domain of the surface of interface between air and earth ( on the SURFACE OF THE Earth) and nowhere  around in vertical  plane.
-this  type of transmission will eliminate traditional wires for stationary energy  consumers such as houses and industry facilities.
-this  type of transmission will possibly  power moving object on the sea an in  land  and possibly charging batteries of the vehicles  in motion.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  we should not pay for delivery of energy cost.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  there would be no transport of oil and gas.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  oil and gas companies will have choice to become major electrical energy suppliers  or "die" as natural energy resources exporter.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  USA AS PATENT HOLDER WILL DICTATE TO THE WHOLE WORD ITS RIGHTS TO ENERGY SEND BY  SURFACE WAVE AND WILL BE THE CHEAPEST IN IT.
-if the statement about no losses is true than   licensing rights to the technology  use by any  world entity will make energy of any competition more expensive than in USA.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  Russia can become "Dead Fish" at no time. ( as  oil and gas supplier)
-if the statement about no losses is true than  Russia may be stripped from the rights of using the technology and if it does illegally than nobody will buy it from Russia.
-if the statement about no losses is true than  USA will be unpredictable but mandatory in judgement in who can use it  and who can not.
It is estimated that half of a billion  dollars  is the  primary capital of an inventor/investor team, and first tower is the  Viziv tower  build.
I assume that Department of Interior/ Department of Energy  is informed and will take control over  this technology.
If anyone  can find the original patent  of Viziv please  post it here.

-if the statement about no losses is NOT true than  USA can do exactly the same and still be capable of being the cheapest electrical energy supplier.
however if it is found that all of it is the  scam, than it will be the most published and memorized fact in the history of modern world.

  =========================================================================

In point:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg527200/#msg527200
2
. Introduction to Zenneck Wave for beginners
we have started explanation of Zenneck waves
that part should be seen as PART#1
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PART#2 of
Introduction to Zenneck Wave for beginners

what is interface:
look at picture below.
-The Zenneck wave, Zenneck surface wave or Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface wave is an inhomogeneous
or non-uniform electromagnetic plane wave incident at the complex Brewster angle onto a planar or spherical boundary
interface between two homogeneous media having different dielectric constants.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7]:p. 198
- https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave


Summary of part #1 and part #2:
-Most of literature for  surface wave is dedicated to  visible light bandwidth of  TEM( transverse electromagnetic wave) -Viziv mention that some experiments  have been conducted at frequency of
-150 MHz.      Fig. 3.
-
  52 MHz       Fig. 4.
-    1.82 MHz (
Photo 2.)
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frequency of few  Hz as low as Shumann frequency , was also  mentioned but I lost link to article.
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Fig. 3.  Burrows’ 1936 measured Seneca Lake data over a range from 1 m to 2 km. Curve (1) is the lossless inverse field (Hertz).
 Curve (2) is the van der Pol-Norton ground wave   over a lossy medium (Seneca Lake) with measured data. Curve (3) is the
 Sommerfeld-Zenneck surface  wave over a lossy medium (Seneca Lake). Curve (4) is the lossless dielectric surface wave.
 Curve (1) (the “inverse field”) varies as 1/r. Curve (4)varies as 1/√r.
 Burrows used a dipole antenna at 150 MHz.
at- https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf

This technology may be also related but may not be as well. to Tariel Kapanadze  Free Energy device.
I have witnessed his device working  and found it legit.
But  there was report that when  Tariel presented his device on the island , lights in  Motel from the other side of the water dividing Island from  steady land  lost  its power for around 70%
This was the Motel  where  crew of Tariel Kapanadze was residing during the show time.
So it this is true than
Motel was acting as transmitter of energy  and Tariel  device on the Island was acting as receiver.

https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=684
If that is so than Tariel Kapanadze has the rights  to the technology on the ground of  priority  rights of the earlier filing date.
He filed his application in 2008.
That application was rejected - but that is not important.
So there is chance for Russia to  pay big money to defend Tariel rights and  to license or buy technology from Tariel. "or else"...
As a last resort  if Russian  Patent professionals  find Tariel technology to be not defensible than
they may push Tariel to give it to the public  for free.
by that technology will become available prior to any patent approval of any patent office with future variations.
This is the only way to fight  US domination in this field.

So by that:
1.  Russia will become the big loser   but lose will be  shared with  the rest of energy industry in the world.
2.  Whatever Tariel Kapanadze  secret is it will be forced to be published.
3.  All of other guys having similar FE  devices  will go public as nobody needs them any longer.
4.  So if we assume this scenario than Life of Tariel might be uncertain.Russians do not need Tariel they need  technology

5.  So if Tariel was using surface wave than  Scientists from Turkey could not have any idea and any evidence that such is happening in front of their eyes.
     Their  spectrum analyzer log periodic antenna was useless    https://youtu.be/qdJ1V_yDv-c?t=663
6.  The surface wave such as Zenneck wave does not radiate, it just moves  along the interface ( earth/air junction) 
I said in this video that   motors in Tariel Kapanadze devices have never been used under load but served as generators/signal generators but nobody have believed me.

This is possibly the most important set of information ever published on  this forum and overunity.com


 




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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1137 on: November 24, 2018, 11:03:57 AM »
Hi, this looks like a retro pic from a practical television mag!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdJ1V_yDv-c&feature=youtu.be&t=684

See doctored image below!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1138 on: November 24, 2018, 02:53:46 PM »
Related to Goubau's article, it should be noted that the propagation depends strongly on the nature of the surface.
Zenneck waves/ surface waves - do not radiate. They move along the interface. They are invisible in perpendicular  plane ( vertically) above and below the interface  (earth surface).   
Long and medium radio waves propagate very well over the sea, which is a much better conductor than the land. Spain is about 400 km from my position with only the Atlantic Ocean in between. Spanish MW radio stations are perfectly received here with strong signals, even during the day, while stations 100 km away in the countryside are poorly heard.
Anyway, I am not able to extract here the slightest milliwatt from the hundreds of KW sent from Spain.
Yes you are.  https://www.radio-electronics.com/info/rf-technology-design/rf-noise-sensitivity/receiver-signal-to-noise-ratio.php
Gain of your antenna  is directly responsible for that mW..
Assuming frequency of all listed by you signals is within AM bandwith, than:
- direction of propagation
- Line-of-sight propagation ( terrain )  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation
- attenuation of the ground vs sea.
- distance is always obeying  inverse square law.
And that is what makes some of AM station from particular direction of  far away stations stronger.

Radiant energy is useful only if the energy receiver is coupled to the transmitter, which involves interaction between transmitter and receiver, otherwise the energy is not directed towards the receiver, and it is radiated even if no load is connected, which is a total waste

Antenna of Tx is the load to that Tx.( transmitter)
So if you apply Dummy Load instead of an Antenna than
-Dummy Load  is purely resistive matching impedance of Tx , and all energy is dissipated by that load. No radiation is taking place!!. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_load
Radiant Energy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy obeys inverse square law rules.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law. radiation is taking place in all directions
(unless limited by characteristic of an antenna)

Based on material  pointed by Viziv  inverse square law does not apply  to Zenneck Wave ( zenneck surface Wave)
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Norton surface wave, other types of surface wave are the non-radiative Zenneck surface wave or Zenneck-Sommerfeld surface wave,
they are  the  trapped surface wave and the gliding wave. https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Zenneck_wave

SO WE DEALING WITH DIFFERENT ANIMAL HERE AND GOUBAU IS PART OF IT.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #1139 on: November 24, 2018, 03:59:08 PM »
Tesla used Zenneck waves and it's confirmed by his own words. It' immaterial however- it's only about energy transfer, not overunity.

 

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