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AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #540 on: November 11, 2018, 01:24:24 AM »
everything is energy a wave to be exact

Should I say some of you are completely ignorant?
You do not see immediate money than you do not care about me and anything else.
I do not accuse you about lack of understanding due to the fact that the sucker game is at your level of everyday study.
I'm getting help from Country of Tesla, but not much from you yet.

That's because perhaps we are having issues comprehending how it actually works at this stage.
I don't use ''understand'' as the word means just that to stand-under to admit to a contract of control  :-X its a legal terminology from class levels
unlike to comprehend something ;)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #541 on: November 11, 2018, 01:41:08 PM »
The MEG is a fundamental misunderstanding of Bearden that is tirelessly maintained from year to year as an urban legend, while of course it has never provided any energy.

This misunderstanding consists in believing that a parametric modification is made at a zero energy cost (the Steorn motor was based on the same error). Of course not.
In order for the switching coils to change the permeability of the controlled area, they must supply energy.

E=-dΦ/dt is always correct but different from -L*di/dt when L is not constant. When there is a change in permeability, L changes, and therefore the correct formula is E = -dΦ/dt = -d(L.I)/dt. This means that the product of the instantaneous values of I AND L must be integrated over time.

This is a consequence of the superposition of fields: although permeability is modified when the fields change, two fields from two sources always simply add up at any time but taking into account the instantaneous values of permeability and fields at this exact time.
The fields add they do not multiply! However, a modulation is a multiplication, not an addition. Therefore the flux from the Bearden's switching coils cannot modulate another flux, the result is only the sum of the two at any given time and the counter-EMF from the payload affects both.
Thanks for that I posted it out of interest to others, but at the same time one should note just because someone has a patent on something doesn't mean it works  8).

Also has any noticed backchat on the net that NATO is taking over western world governments in 2030 won't this mean the end of world individual sovereignty and the rule of the military eval flys? the age of Aquarius and the Georgia stones. :-\

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #542 on: November 12, 2018, 06:18:56 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhjHzdDYRXA
 Chet have you been on holiday Wesley already commented ;D ;D on this link last week
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #543 on: November 13, 2018, 01:55:39 AM »
I suppose one could always salvage the nitrate from a cold pack and mix with potassium (salt) minus the sulphate wait to crystal and wala!

see if it works

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #544 on: November 13, 2018, 02:55:46 PM »
The ferro cap re-see charge circuit so what's the difference between this cap and a bunch of super caps or a load of poly film dumping it's
energy into a tank coil at the bottom of a tuned Tesla coil, to get energy out you need to put it in just remember that too frequency and
capsize are critical.
Has anyone tried using a triac instead of a spark gap that way you can lower the voltage but current can then be a problem?
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #545 on: November 13, 2018, 08:39:10 PM »
Speedy 25
Hi Wesley!

Surface waves-general  knowledge :

1.   https://cosmolearning.org/video-lectures/surface-waves-2/
1a. same but in PDF http://emlab.utep.edu/ee5390em21/Lecture%2021%20--%20Surface%20waves.pdf

Review of Electromagnetic Surface
Waves: 1960 Through 1987 (Naval Weapons Centar)  https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=00f3c31d269f6574JmltdHM9MTY3NzU0MjQwMCZpZ3VpZD0zN2IwYzNmMC1jZDk4LTYzNDUtMWZmYi1kMTM2Y2NkYjYyNzImaW5zaWQ9NTE1OA&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=37b0c3f0-cd98-6345-1ffb-d136ccdb6272&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9hcHBzLmR0aWMubWlsL3N0aS9wZGZzL0FEQTE5NzI3OC5wZGY&ntb=1

Isolation of the Zenneck Surface Wave: http://www.ee.ucl.ac.uk/lcs/previous/LCS2011/LCS1137.pdf




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https://youtu.be/wIIABIU3tRw?t=541
For these who are into understanding surface wave  please  watch this video from  the beginning.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbidden_knowledge


Wesley
   
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #546 on: November 14, 2018, 02:10:58 AM »
corrected link:
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a197278.pdf

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Barlow and Brown define a surface wave as
"...one that propagates along an interface between two different media without radiation,
such radiation being construed to mean energy converted from the surface-wave field to some other form (Reference 7)."

Since this definition covers a lot of territory, one of the major problems
with the surface-wave literature is
the proliferation of different names for what is essentially the same physical phenomenon (References 2 and 8 ) 

These  waves:
-Zenneck,
-Norton,
-Sommerfeld-Goubau,
-inhomogeneous, -
radial,
-axial,
-azimuthal,
-lateral,
-creeping,
etc.-are all (at least in some sense) a type of or associated with a type of surface wave.

Throughout this report we will try to clarify all such terms and use them correctly
in association with the appropriate physical geometry or guiding process   

From the quote of article  (link above)
we see that:
1. Viziv used Zenneck Wave as one of the names.
2. that may be intentional as:
a- there is  little to none  publicly available  literature about it.
b.-There is  estimated half of a billion dollars  at stake  from the investors.
c.- investors must contribute     and do not understand to much
d.- public must  do not interfere and do not understand to much

2. form of phenomena in question can be ironically simple but just in some part of it
matching one basket of all of mentioned names for Zenneck waves

3.  Viziv might not have patent rights to any of  these waveforms so  how they can protect their investment?
B
y means of scrambling access to  the receiver that must match  the same algorithm
to gain access to energy that is already converted to  Zenneck wave  or any other name  they hide it  at.
By simple words:
You have Viziv transmitter and the receiver is like your satellite dish.
The satellite signal is out. All you need is to access it. and that is what you are paying for
- the code
. 
But if you just couple straight right  into the  Zenneck Wave  or whatever name you give to it they going to go bankrupt.
But if you use your own energy from your own water mill   and use Zenneck Wave as means of transportation than you can sale it to your neighbors
or power your own electric car in withing boundaries of your own area of coverage. ( city , county, state)



Picture :
Red rectangle:  explains controversy   about different names associated with Zenneck Wave
Blue rectangle: explains  simple conditions needed for Zenneck Wave and its associated  other names   for the same,  to exist.

At the bottom  of the page #4  please look at  propagation phenomena and types of waves:
-Transverse electric
-Transverse magnetic TM
Transverse magneticTM  is the wave that is  mentioned in :
 https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf
by Viziv.




And now all you need to do is:
- to use the other names used for the same and google it.
- try to find the sense and possible similarity in wording to article published by Zenneck associate
  https://s3.amazonaws.com/texzon/TexzonTechnologies+Paper+Download/TEXZON_Baylor_Corum_2016.pdf
- Try to match statements for both.
All of that  does not require knowledge, it is just simple way to compare text.

So what might be the outcome of your  work?:
- money
- ideas for new solution, competitive to Viziv.
- freedom from "energy  distribution guys"
- or the best of all.. turning it all to mutual use for general public.- if you can overcome your selfishness.

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #547 on: November 14, 2018, 02:14:24 PM »
The ferro cap re-see charge circuit so what's the difference between this cap and a bunch of super caps or a load of poly film dumping it's
energy into a tank coil at the bottom of a tuned Tesla coil, to get energy out you need to put it in just remember that too frequency and
capsize are critical.
Has anyone tried using a triac instead of a spark gap that way you can lower the voltage but current can then be a problem?
Ferroelectric capacitor is a capacitor based on a ferroelectric material.
Traditional capacitors are based on dielectric materials.

1.Ferrocapacitor keeps its state  unchanged till it is changed 
 
Another "animal" that is similar to ferrocapacitor  and using using different names is:
varicap diode, varactor diode, variable capacitance diode, variable reactance diode or tuning diode

2   Capacitor       usually decays  in time by itself
2a Ferrocapacitor usually needs someone to push it for change.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #548 on: November 14, 2018, 04:04:01 PM »

https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1029/RS013i006p00969

     
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Excitation of the Zenneck wave is examined for both finite and infinit vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground.
The infinite vertical aperture with a Zenneck wave variation is found to excite only the Zenneck wave with NO radiation field.
The finite vertical aperture excites a field which is similar to the Zenneck wave near the aperture but resembles the usual ground wave at large distances.
Numerical results for various aperture heights are given for frequencies of 1 and 10 MHz. Both homogeneous ground and sea water paths are considered
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From that we know that vertical apertures over a homogeneous conducting flat ground. -Are the one responsible for phenomena known as Zenneck wave with NO radiation field

http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf    This is original uncut German article in English translated by
James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC
February 17, 2015

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #549 on: November 14, 2018, 05:25:58 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #550 on: November 14, 2018, 05:47:56 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet
I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #551 on: November 16, 2018, 09:13:06 PM »

Zenneck wave is a well-known science.
His teacher was Sommerfled who was the originator of eigenmode theory in waveguide. So far there has not been anyone capable of disproving  any of Sommerfled's theories.

I did  correct it .
http://nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdf
and there is  some striking revelation about Zenneck Wave in the picture below.
Yes it is striking.
Think about coverage  of entire earth.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #552 on: November 16, 2018, 09:26:45 PM »
Wesley...PDF here on original uncut ......reads 404 now [Not found

http://www.nedyn.com/Goubau_1951-X.pdfThis is original uncut German article in English translated by James F. Corum, Ph.D.
CPG Technologies, LLC

I thought I checked it when you first posted it was good ...but now NG..at least here in NE USA
Chet




James Corum has done a great job in proving the existence of Zenneck wave. He is also a IEEE member.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #554 on: November 21, 2018, 06:16:00 PM »
Hi SolarLab,

I didn't have any problem with the duplication after having realized that the cable ends must be sort-circuited, not open.
One end is connected to the FG via a coaxial T-shaped connector with a short-circuited middle input. However, my jumpers have a slight impedance so that a small part of the signal passes through and is reflected back and forth many times. For the same reason the scope probes at each end pick up the signal on the jumpers.
 
The first picture shows the comings and goings of a 16ns pulse repeated at a low rate of 797KHz so that we have time to see the reflections in the time of each period.
We can see that the attenuation at -3dB allows more than ten round trips of the pulse, which indicates low losses.

The second image is the signal of the 5 superimposed sine waves generated by the FG, at a frequency of 15.94 MHz for the lowest (the others are multiple).

The last image is the signals probed at the ends of the cable, FG side for the yellow trace, and the other for the purple trace.

The time between the maximum of one trace and the minimum of the other corresponds to the travel time of 30 ns in my 6 m line, velocity coefficient 0.66c.

This is the temporal signal while Gorchilin's animation showed the spatial representation, so it is necessary to do some mental gymnastics to understand that the two correspond, except that the amplitudes of the positive and negative oscillations are not exactly balanced, I don't know why.
Don't trust the volt level of the traces, I had a problem with a probe and the impedance multipliers of the probe are not declared correctly in the scope (but this is not related to the positive/negative imbalance).

In any case, a standing wave is always the superposition of at least two progressive waves which propagate in opposite directions. Progressive waves are always "hidden" in standing waves, so for me the Gorchilin's configuration is just a phase arrangement, it doesn't bring anything new. Spatially the energy is still static.