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magpwr

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #390 on: August 19, 2018, 05:29:50 AM »
I have already commented with my ideas on why the tesla coil approach might potentially be used to exploit Earth resonances.

Here are some of my thoughts on the RomanCorp approach which Wesley seems to be experimenting with.
This also appears to me to be a potentially viable approach to try to exploit Earth
resonant frequencies due to the series resonance approach which is used. This approach may
possibly be a fair bit simpler than playing around with Tesla coils.

Although Wesley hasn't provided a lot of specific details so far about how he is doing measurements, but
if I understood his appraoch so far, Wesley seems to me to be on the right track of applying a high voltage
pulse to one ground rod and monitoring for any response results on the other ground rod. Such an approach
should help to find any resonant responses from your ground rod system. If you can't use a high voltage pulse 
or HV pulse waveform to 'excite' one ground rod, then you can try just using a signal generator set to
a pulse waveform output, and sweep from very low frequency very slowly to higher frequencies as you
monitor for any resonant responses on the other ground rod. Take note of any resonant frequencies found.

Also take note that you may have to try moving one of your ground rods around to different locations
to look for a location that seems to give the best results, so you may well want to use a short ground spike
of some type which can easily be pulled out from the ground again as you test with different ground locations.
When you are testing for any resonant responses as described above, my recommendation would be to
use as short wire lengths as possible connected to each ground rod during this testing to help minimize
skewed results due to any resonant responses/standing waves on the connecting wires them self.

See the attached circuit drawing.
My drawing takes this circuit arrangement down to what I believe is its most basic form.
Notice that secondary winding L2 and C1 are in series. You may be wondering why not place C1
in parallel across L2 instead? The answer is that if C1 were in parallel to L2 instead of in
series to L2, at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1 there should be a high current bouncing
back and forth between L2 and C2, but there is not much current pumping action applied
to the ground 1 and ground 2 points. When L2 and C1 are arranged in series between ground 1 and
ground 2, you will now (potentially at least) have a current pumping action between ground 1 and ground 2
when operating at the resonant frequency of L2 and C1.

Let's say in the intial pulsing testing stage described above that, like Wesley, you appear to see a resonant
response at 7 Hz and/or 14 Hz or whatever frequencies. These would then be good choices to try as the
resonant frequency of the L2 and C1 combination. If your local mains power operates at 50 Hz or 60 Hz,
then that would probably be a good frequency to avoid. Let's say you are going to try with 14 Hz specifically.
You could then try using an off the shelf iron core transformer of a type shown in my drawing (two separate secondaries
with a reasonably high current rating). This might not be ideal, but should be an easy way to conduct initial testing without having to
fiddle around too much. Iron core transformers should probably work well enough at 14 Hz and 7 Hz,
I would guess. Also keep in mind that you will need to use low ESR capacitor(s) for C1. 

Well, that's my ideas on a simple way of how to go about testing with this sort of arrangement
for anyone who still may have been unsure about how to go about testing with this arangement.
Wesley may have other ideas than what I describe here. These are my own initial ideas. :)

Test with any circuit arrangements at your own risk. Make sure you understand how to work
safely with such equipment and circuit arrangements.
hi void,
I'm surprised to see members and key person is going back to the basics.But i have no issue about it.
The answer you are looking for is already posted in my recent attachment RUS to Eng translation of Akula Telsa coil tuning pdf file.
What you guys are doing is already in line with Akula without realizing it yet.Akula did mention about you look for maximum "current" movement/returns   into/from Earth.So base from your circuit diagram referring to "output to load" will be seen as higher voltage because there is higher current returns from Earth in order to power the  transformer to load.
So long story short Akula did mention about getting best returns base on kapanadze device after finding out 1.7..1.8Mhz did provide current returns after injecting various frequency to ground.



I have attached a simple Harmonics and Sub-Harmonics calculator from 7.83Hz or from 1.7Mhz.Once more for the third time.To make life simple
My only disadvantage as mentioned in the past is less than ideal working space and height(Far from ground) and stainless steel(316) water pipe providing one of the world cleanest water supply which you can drink directly from tap."Above WHO standards".
Key tips before commencing any project do execute all possible scenario in your head first while sleeping then on assembly day you will find it easy to execute all possible combination like a game of chess. :)

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #391 on: August 19, 2018, 07:21:14 AM »
Hi magpwr. Thanks for the comments.
Ok on your testing situation. Yes maybe not the greatest for grounded systems with HV.

I am actually not working on a Akula related device right now myself, or on Wesley's latest approach either. 
I commented on the other circuit because so far Wesley did not say too much about his own
intended testing approach. I just gave some of my ideas of how to do some initial testing with it.
People would have to experiment to see if it might have any potential if anyone is interested, and they may
have to experiment with their own variations as well.

I am working on something that is my own idea these days. I don't have a lot of time these days
for testing, so it is moving along slowly. If I find anything noteworthy, I may make a simple demo video.
I don't really like making videos so much however, but we'll see. :)

All the best...


Sergh

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #392 on: August 19, 2018, 10:06:18 AM »
I have already commented with my ideas on why the tesla coil approach might potentially be used to exploit Earth resonances.
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This is not a complete solution. The coils and capacitor will create their own resonances. These resonances have nothing to do with the Earth.

If you want to explore - you need to create resonance processes with the help of a short pulse. Observe the resonance response is necessary on a non-inductive load.
Use fewer transformers and coils. The explosive mixture of a coil with a capacitance will not allow us to understand where the resonance is from the coils and where from the Earth itself.

The task is very difficult.
According to one member of the Matrix Forum, he had contacts with scientists in the past who were probing the Earth with short pulses. It seems nothing interesting for our topic.
Although, they had other purposes.

In addition, you can read something more professional.
For example, about an UWB underground radar. (UWB - Ultra Wide Band. Similar to "short pulses")
Another interesting direction is the collection of the accumulated charge in the air from the near-surface ionization of the Earth.
It looks like a process in lightning. Only microscopic lightning will come out of the earth - from the grass, bushes, trees. For example, within a radius of 1 kilometer. (In terms of environmental friendliness and safety, there are many open questions.)

But for this it is necessary to create by means of a pulse a large potential difference at a distance between earthing connections.
It is necessary to hard discharge the capacitor charged to 30 - 50 kilovolts by the load  having a resistance of several Ohms.

Air gaps are not exactly suitable, as they have more resistance.

It may be necessary to use high-voltage thyristors or powerful thyratrons for several thousand amperes per pulse.

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #393 on: August 19, 2018, 11:00:14 AM »
Hi Magpwr,
At my age, there is a danger of sleeping on the assembly line!  ;D
Ha ha so was Tesla still alive when you were born ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #394 on: August 19, 2018, 03:12:58 PM »
That sounds about right to me. No good just tickling the ground.
What would that do since I*V=Watts.!
Electricity is like a train current takes time to getting going but passenger's just jump on
At random !

Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #395 on: August 19, 2018, 04:45:42 PM »
This is not a complete solution. The coils and capacitor will create their own resonances. These resonances have nothing to do with the Earth.

Hi Sergh. Nowhere did I suggest that anything is a complete solution however.  :)
It is of course implied that the tesla coil would have to be operating on a frequency
that appears to provide a beneficial 'resonant response' from the earth ground connection, if you are trying
to exploit natural resonances or resonant responses in the ground. :)
 
A person would have to do some experimenting to look for any specific frequencies that appear to give a
'resonant response' from the ground. In my previous comment above, I gave some comments on how
a person might go about testing for that using two independent ground rods with short as possible
connecting wires to each ground rod. Chances are you will get better results if you can pulse the
'input' ground rod with higher voltage pulses, but, you never know, people may be able to get some
interesting results just using a pulse waveform from a signal generator.

All the best...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #396 on: August 19, 2018, 07:35:12 PM »
The voltage is all ready there the current has tof build up!
So how long would that take ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #397 on: August 19, 2018, 08:04:19 PM »

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #398 on: August 20, 2018, 09:22:09 AM »
Are we talking about a Tesla coil in radiant energy mode, as Tesla exployted!
Tinselect talked about BEMF at switch off. But what about swich on ?
Oh dosent it exist?

Belfior

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #399 on: August 20, 2018, 11:29:50 AM »
Are we talking about a Tesla coil in radiant energy mode, as Tesla exployted!
Tinselect talked about BEMF at switch off. But what about swich on ?
Oh dosent it exist?

Hmm interesting... is there a bemf acting against the charging coil? There should be in my mind at least. There is some inertia to beat. I would like to see some bemf circuitry schematics

Belfior

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #400 on: August 20, 2018, 11:34:33 AM »
Well, perhaps there's a bit of translation loss here.

Anyone may do anything, that's true, but in order to draw conclusions, a real True Experiment should be performed.This involves a lot of brainwork before one starts twiddling dials and discharging caps and raising up earthworms.

So you need a testable hypothesis. Then you need to design experiments that actually test that hypothesis. Then you need to design control experiments so that you know what variables are actually influencing your results. Then you need to plan on doing your experiments enough times for statistically valid data to be gathered. Then you need to know how to analyze the data.


Often times in real academic research, the paper is written before any experimentation is actually performed, with the Data section using imaginary data and the Results/Conclusions written from both success and failure viewpoints. Then when the experiment is actually performed you just plug in the real data and massage the Conclusions part to match.


And one need not invoke the holy name of Tesla in vain. Just use the Scientific Method and you'll be fine.

Absolutely correct. This is the only way. Not just experimenting but also creating extraordinary eviden e. Not just measuring 20MHz RF with a DMM and claiming OU. First u need to claim the tests & results that would spoil your theory and then conduct them. Not just present ”proof” that it works. People like their idea so much sometimes the proof is just measurement errors...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #401 on: August 20, 2018, 01:35:21 PM »
Hmm interesting... is there a bemf acting against the charging coil? There should be in my mind at least. There is some inertia to beat. I would like to see some bemf circuitry schematics
In Tesla interview on Google he talks about it but it's igored, Donald talks about a massive pulse
Of ENERGY!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #402 on: August 20, 2018, 04:12:43 PM »
Hi,
Can anyone point me any link  where i can purchase RG-56/U cable online which is sold by the foot in order to create a stiff Antenna which is also 8000Volts rated.
Thanks.
In return i am able to show something that no one in this forum have seen before anywhere relating to frequency up-scaling  after cable is converted to a Antenna and coil for tesla coil.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #403 on: August 20, 2018, 06:17:10 PM »
https://patents.google.com/patent/US690151A/en?oq=us20150102676
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I have discovered that the south to north direction of the earth-current is maintained only when the plates: are of the same metal.
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for these who are interested :
US20080191580A1  https://patents.google.com/patent/US20080191580A1/en
Example of active  above the  ground  positive counterbalance to  earth ground  utilizing telluric current



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #404 on: August 20, 2018, 06:28:59 PM »
Can anyone point me any link  where i can purchase RG-56/U cable online which is sold by the foot in order to create a stiff Antenna which is also 8000Volts rated.

Hi magpwr. I don't know, but this company might be able to help you:
https://www.awcwire.com/part.aspx?partname=rg56