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Grumage

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #285 on: August 04, 2018, 09:13:02 PM »
Indeed, whoa!

I started looking at a two ground system some time back.

https://youtu.be/mRz3oTLicT4

Sadly my own health deteriorated to the point of not being able to continue with experiments.

In the video I mentioned a gentleman who's handle is Dragon, he had developed a circuit that automatically charged a capacitor bank.

Don't forget that most early telegraph routes were " dowsed " to find the best efficiency !   ;) I was taught dowsing as an apprentice whilst training as an electrician for the local water supply company.

Cheers Grum.

cheappower2012

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« Reply #286 on: August 05, 2018, 10:13:48 AM »
When I was in the old tpu thread,the same thing happened, people
listened to the inventor say something and ran with it.I can't get this to build the device,conclusion it must
be important,this happens in this thread,your being tricked by Kapandaze.In the tpu thread it was the inventor
wants you to build hes device
and would never lie to you,stupidity reined in that thread.In this thread, its a Tesla invention,
it operates at high frequency,the coil construction  is the secret.
Here is another of Kapanadze's devices,the ground wire can not be  two wires Hoppy,
the fan that he uses operates at 220vac ,50 Hz so the output has to be 220 vac, 50hz.
At the max power it draws 14.8 amps times 220v=3,256 watts,the guy takes a current reading.
The ground in my opinion does not do anything, simply a trick to convince you its related to Tesla stuff.
Pay close attention to the two spark plugs no arc coming from them,whats a Tesla with no arc,LOL ;D.
As far as I can tell there is no hidden wire,so the next trick would be hidden batteries
and a dc to 220v inverter,the size of the inverter rules this out,max power 3,256 watts
for a 12 volt dc battery,the current draw would be 271 amps,I'm assuming a 100% conversion rate
for arguments sake,in reality,the current would be much higher.There is no room in the box for a large inverter or
battery that can deliver this amount of current.In my opinion the coil is a very important
part of the device,this is where the current is generated,notice two wires are tied together on the output white coil,in parallel to increase current.My opinion is the current is not generated in an ordinary way but in a completely different manner,this is why its very hard to figure out,you have to look at all the various devices Kapandaze has made. Check it out and discuss it,skeptics,how did he do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9VhcDZYKg

Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #287 on: August 05, 2018, 01:07:46 PM »
Hi Cheappower2012. Good to see you contributing to this thread. I agree with most you wrote, other than there not being a hidden / 'hot' wire(s) powering the device. The hidden wire(s) in the video you posted is most likely routed through the wall into and through the channel section of one of the foot arms on the fan. Look closely. Until a more plausible explanation can be put forward, I'll stick with this one.

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #288 on: August 05, 2018, 01:49:15 PM »

Here is another of Kapanadze's devices,the ground wire can not be  two wires Hoppy,
the fan that he uses operates at 220vac ,50 Hz so the output has to be 220 vac, 50hz.
At the max power it draws 14.8 amps times 220v=3,256 watts,the guy takes a current reading.
The ground in my opinion does not do anything, simply a trick to convince you its related to Tesla stuff.
Pay close attention to the two spark plugs no arc coming from them,whats a Tesla with no arc,LOL ;D.
As far as I can tell there is no hidden wire,so the next trick would be hidden batteries
and a dc to 220v inverter,the size of the inverter rules this out,max power 3,256 watts
for a 12 volt dc battery,the current draw would be 271 amps,I'm assuming a 100% conversion rate
for arguments sake,in reality,the current would be much higher.There is no room in the box for a large inverter or
battery that can deliver this amount of current.In my opinion the coil is a very important
part of the device,this is where the current is generated,notice two wires are tied together on the output white coil,in parallel to increase current.My opinion is the current is not generated in an ordinary way but in a completely different manner,this is why its very hard to figure out,you have to look at all the various devices Kapandaze has made. Check it out and discuss it,skeptics,how did he do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH9VhcDZYKg
Ah a window sales man,  No spark ! BS whats that Zzzzzzzt and a spark at 1538 ???
Notice the Tesla coil and the TV tripper just behind it for high voltage to the Tesla coil
now look at the Tesla coil it self it's filled with something, and the end high voltage wire is dead thin, one would expect
a really high voltage ark there, but that coil must be resonating at a low frequency with it's length. The spark plugs limit
the high voltage and other things (EV Grey Tube).
I expect the black box on the left is filled with some sort of storage capacitors or is control.

Wesley what is the PCB to the right of the BLACK BOX it appears to have rows and rows of devices, can you comment on it pleas i'm curious ;)

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Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #289 on: August 05, 2018, 02:24:33 PM »
Ah a window sales man

Regards
That's not very kind to call Kapanadze a window salesman just because he uses a lot of glass to house his devices.  ;)
The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.
 

apecore

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« Reply #290 on: August 05, 2018, 02:34:58 PM »

The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.

Or as i read somewhere he is using the PLL part of the TV board

Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #291 on: August 05, 2018, 02:43:33 PM »
Or as i read somewhere he is using the PLL part of the TV board
Possibly but that would not add up to his statement along the lines that the device is is so simple you'll laugh.

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« Reply #292 on: August 05, 2018, 02:56:40 PM »
Hoppy
You are correct,on the possible hidden wire being run thru the wall.
You would only have to drill thru the concrete a small hole that leads
behind the wall
and place the fan leg to cover it,then connect thru the fans plug.
The only weakness is how smart is the guy that's paying
Kapanadze,is he a fool.A more believable demo would have been
connecting the heater only
close to the device and lifting the device up.I believe that there
 are government agencies that
do grab devices that are real but will only act if there's a good
chance that the device is real,with kapanadze its always maybe its real or maybe its fake
its never a certainty one way or another.This video is from 2015 so he must have burned this guy and
moved on to the next victim One thing kills me,lol,when there's talk about
resonating at much higher frequency than 50 Hz, people forget all of Kapanadaze,s devices operate
 at 50 Hz not higher frequencies.This does point to two conclusions one its a hidden wire in all cases or
its a brand new method of generating current that's unknown.

In my opinion only the white coil and the black box, is the device,there is a much larger battery hidden,its used to start the device,the 9 volt battery
does not start the device its used to activate a relay,that switches the larger battery.Remember in the 2005 device it took a lot of current to start the device.


apecore

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #293 on: August 05, 2018, 02:59:08 PM »
Possibly but that would not add up to his statement along the lines that the device is is so simple you'll laugh.


Hoppy,
The problem is we don't know which statements are for real.
This means we it can be a "Yes"or a "No"....

On the other hand.."the device is so simple you'll laugh"...  is probablt only valid when its working on the bench in front of you.
Until that,...  looking how much years and how many qualified people have been busy with it,.........  it seems not so simple at all...

Alsi don t forget,... PLL may be a device to gain more efficiency,... holding the synchroisation process fixed.
As it would be working without PLL  more parameters will have bad effect on stability...  (f.i.    Our Nick "Chaotic effect")

Question would be,...  When a PLL is used...  what would it control?       


Greetings

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #294 on: August 05, 2018, 03:02:20 PM »
That's not very kind to call Kapanadze a window salesman just because he uses a lot of glass to house his devices.  ;)
The PCB's look as if they are from an old scrap TV, or other junked appliance. Eye candy.
Phase locked to the earths resonance (timing) that's not too difficult. You need about 10kv but no flying sparks
just pulsed, just static. possibly regulated.

Notice spark at 15.38 into video
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Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #295 on: August 05, 2018, 03:29:51 PM »
Hoppy
You are correct,on the possible hidden wire being run thru the wall.
You would only have to drill thru the concrete a small hole that leads
behind the wall
and place the fan leg to cover it,then connect thru the fans plug.

In my opinion only the white coil and the black box, is the device,there is a much larger battery hidden,its used to start the device,the 9 volt battery
does not start the device its used to activate a relay,that switches the larger battery.Remember in the 2005 device it took a lot of current to start the device.
No large battery needed with a hidden 'hot-wire'.
Look closer at the gap between the fan leg and the wall.

Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #296 on: August 05, 2018, 03:39:47 PM »

Notice spark at 15.38 into video
Regards

Kapanadze could have produced sparks just for eye candy. They signify or prove nothing until the rest of the device is properly understood.


Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #297 on: August 05, 2018, 04:06:07 PM »
My dear Hoppy .
the two grounds controversy:
Think about it as not important. Just not important for time being.
And After you  have done it  and wake up very next day than you can come back to your reality  whatever you feel comfortable with.
Just do it for yourself.

Wesley
Wesley,
I'm comfortable assuming that the devices I have so far seen demonstrated are faked until such time as a plausible alternative explanation surfaces. As Cheappower 2012 correctly points out, these devices are powering their loads at 50Hz, so I see no reason to believe that HV or HF is necessarily required for operation. I respect that you are trying to be helpful but with respect, some of your posts are just coming over as riddles to me at the moment.

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« Reply #298 on: August 05, 2018, 04:13:15 PM »
And again we passed another chapter 8) ;D ;D ;D

Hidden batteries/ additional power sources

Does this last post from Hoppy ends the Kapanadze discussion?

Well until we see no proof from Ruslans demonstration (open field/ BMW X5) i guess that one would be legimit?
Or not?

Greetings

Hoppy

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #299 on: August 05, 2018, 04:43:13 PM »

Well until we see no proof from Ruslans demonstration (open field/ BMW X5) i guess that one would be legimit?
Or not?

Greetings
What with a battery buried under a pile of straw as in his last video but concealled more carefully this time!  ::)