Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[AlienGrey]

3. they are both scamers playing together

Ha ha you got to laugh at the bipolar response some one show me the proof !
Can any one do that ??

[Hoppy]

I don't think any one cane prove it works or it don't on here.
No i was referring to all this probable prof of admitting fraud the guy is admitting to !
where is it ?

I tend to follow the money trail on this type of puzzle. However, proof is conclusive, so evidence is likely the best we can hope for in a forum environment.

[onepower]

TK

So, presumably YOU yourself can feel this energy you are talking about, coming from your designs, coils or images. So I propose a test. We will take one of your designs, coils or images, that you can feel, and we will put it into a box of some kind.

You may lose and the condition is called EM hypersensitivity
http://www.who.int/peh-emf/publications/facts/fs296/en/

Nikola Tesla claimed to have such sensitivity to EM energy and it is well documented in the art. It is also known that sharks have electro-reception with a sensitivity as low as 5 nV/cm. https://www.wired.com/2013/08/how-sensitive-are-sharks-to-electric-fields/

Suppose you put two D-cell batteries 1000 miles apart with a single wire connecting them. A shark could detect this faint voltage.

The real problem would seem to be arm chair critics who do no real experiments and corporations/government agencies who prostitute science in the name of profit/vested interests. Any fool should be able to feel the hair on their arm rise or move in the presence of HV fields. I can build a small HV circuit and put it in a box and take your money every time. The problem is most people are basically deaf, blind and dumb so far as awareness of the environment around them is concerned. They bumble about oblivious to everything around them then try to claim there ignorance is normal when it's not, it's just them.

[onepower]

tysb3

Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.

Awesome, now if you could post a copy of the court transcript or some other proof such as a receipt then we could believe you. Otherwise you have as much credibility as the inventors you claim are fakes. There is only one tangible proof and that is tangible proof and it works both ways.

[tysb3]

@ onepower
I put there information what about his video say  Sergej Panov  ,which part of it Wesley wrong interpreted. For more informatios ask Sergej Panov

[Void]

Yeah i see two options:
1.Ruslan device was real but geo dependent so it didn't  work for Panov in his country so angry Panov decided to discredit Ruslan by claiming its all fake.
2.Ruslan device was and still is fake, big scam.
any other possibilities? I don't think so...

Hi PolaczekCebulaczek.  Yes, it is possible that the device Panov bought from Ruslan is a
legit working 'FE' device, and possibly Panov just could not figure out how to make it work, or the
device does not work in his area.  I can't see the point of Ruslan selling just one device to one person
like this if the device is a complete fake, as Ruslan would have known that doing that would most probably bring
very negative consequences for him. Panov's insinuation that Ruslan must have been using a hidden very thin wire
is only speculation I think. I don't think there is evidence that Ruslan actually did that, unless Panov has
provided some actual convincing evidence showing Ruslan doing that somewhere in one of Ruslan's demos, but we
all already know that hidden wires are always a real possibility in any of these kind of demos. So there is nothing
new at all with this idea.


@Wesley: It would still be interesting to us all here I think to have some translation from Sergej Panov's
video # 9, as this video contains commentary from both Sergej and Ruslan. I know translating
that whole video would be a big job, but it would be interesting to at least know if it is mentioned about what agreement
was supposed to have been made between Sergej and Ruslan, and why Ruslan agreed to sell Sergej one of his devices at all.
At the last part of the video # 9, Sergej includes video commentary from Ruslan on this. What is Ruslan saying there?
Without knowing more details about what all transpired there, it is hard for people to assess what is really going on with all this.
That's my opinion anyway.

[Void]

@ onepower
I put there information what about his video say  Sergej Panov  ,which part of it Wesley wrong interpreted. For more informatios ask Sergej Panov

Hi tysb3. Wesley did not interpret it wrong. Sergej Panov first released a video claiming he
got Ruslan's device working, and he said he was going to release full details in later videos
explaining how everything works, and provide schematics as well. Then later Sergej released his
video # 9, in which he says he believes Ruslan just used a cheap trick of having a hidden mains
phase wire in the ground wire. Sergej made misleading claims in his earlier video about getting his
device working, so it is understandable that people were mislead by that earlier video from Sergej.

[AlienGrey]

Hi tysb3. Wesley did not interpret it wrong. Sergej Panov first released a video claiming he
got Ruslan's device working, and he said he was going to release full details in later videos
explaining how everything works, and provide schematics as well. Then later Sergej released his
video # 9, in which he says he believes Ruslan just used a cheap trick of having a hidden mains
phase wire in the ground wire. Sergej made misleading claims in his earlier video about getting his
device working, so it is understandable that people were mislead by that earlier video from Sergej.

Well with all that has happened you didn't really think it would all go according to plan, did you?

[onepower]

A much more likely scenario is that Panov did not have the skill to figure out how it works, panicked then claimed it didn't work.

Look at the time line...
1) He claims he has it working and will release details.
2)He shows no proof he has it working as time passes.
3)He then claims it does not work and is a fake.

It would seem to me that he is trying to lay blame on the device or technology for his own lack of knowledge and understanding which is often the case.

[AlienGrey]

Well we haven't had anything from Wesley, I.m more interested to see what else is available he has to share with us 

[Void]

Hi onepower.  I think Sergej Panov had Ruslan's device in his possession for a long time before he made this latest series of videos.
He had already sued Ruslan some time ago claiming the device does not work. Then in the last couple of weeks or so he posted
a series of videos in which he was showing doing a bunch of testing and analysis with Ruslan's device, and then he released a video
about a week ago saying he managed to get Ruslan's device working, and that he was going to release further details about how the
device works in upcoming videos. Then Sergej released his video # 9 a few days ago saying that he actually used a hidden phase wire
to power the device.

[onepower]

Void

Hi onepower.  I think Sergej Panov had Ruslan's device in his possession for a long time before he made this latest series of videos.
He had already sued Ruslan some time ago claiming the device does not work.

There is a very good reason these devices work in some places some of the time but not all of the time. Relative humidity, water in the air, will either dampen the HV resonant effects or short the device out all together. It is well known in the art and anyone with any amount of understanding of these kinds of systems should have figured this out.

A nearby thunderstorm produces even more variation because now the Earth Ground potential can swing from 100V/m to thousands of V/m overloading the device. Then when the wind blows humid air into the vicinity the unit shorts out and stops working all together. Why anyone would think a device extracting energy from it's environment would not be effected by said environment boggles the mind.

Imagine that, some people put hundreds of hours of testing into a device and it never works for no other reason than they didn't check the relative humidity in the room. It is often something that simple that many people over look that gets them.

It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so. Mark Twain

[Void]

I think most have been down this road before... it goes around the block and we always seem to
end up right back where we started. As one member suggested, the best option may be to stop blindly
following others and to take matters into our own hands.

Hi Onepower. It's up to any given person whether they want to spend some time running experiments
with these types of setups or not. There are several variations of these sort of devices out there, some
of which have been seen running up close by independent witnesses in person, so it shouldn't be
surprising that some people are interested in experimenting with similar setups, and trying to find
out more info about them.

However, one thing for pretty much certain is that despite what most anyone says about these 'FE' devices,
it appears anyone who might actually get one working is not very likely going to give out specific details
to the public for free about what makes their device work, as the potential is there to make big bucks from
a real FE device, if someone can actually get one working. 

[PolaczekCebulaczek]

Sergej said that he found a spot to connect mains and then the device worked, with all tesla coils pushpuls, fans, leds and so on, those parts are just a decoy. Sergej did not modify anything , supposedly.

He also had shown all schematics and explained how mains current powered the device including relay's for battery.

[Hoppy]

Sergej said that he found a spot to connect mains and then the device worked, with all tesla coils pushpuls, fans, leds and so on, those parts are just a decoy. Sergej did not modify anything , supposedly.

He also had shown all schematics and explained how mains current powered the device including relay's for battery.

Ah, now the series of events is making sense. It a bit of backwards engineering.