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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #180 on: July 24, 2018, 04:47:07 AM »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #181 on: July 24, 2018, 06:09:54 AM »
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE83oajjoo&feature=youtu.be
This is first video

Thx Wesley

Soo its time to dust off my granade coils and kachers? because I gave up on this and lost all hope.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #182 on: July 24, 2018, 10:22:04 AM »
Sergey Panov channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUVybUtIdAo
Don't watch it unless you want to see spoilers in russian, next episode of wesley's news is coming soon!

aether22 Thanks for pictures, now i can see things better.

In case of Hendershot, I dont see any aether stuff, just a tricky yet consistent with electromagnetic theory method of extracting/converting energy from "slowly rotating big ball" and its weak magnetic field to "fast rotating small ball" with strong magnetic field, something like a transformer or a two small-big gear system analogy. It could work because of two factors; the fact that electromagnetism is relativistic and difference between true-geographic north and magnetic north (because of this earth mag field is rotating with earth, in faraday disk its not). Device needs tuning, very specific angles of magnetic field's are needed to make this work ( hendershot compass) and finally when earth mag field answers, the answer is in form of HF vibrating earth magnetic field, for that honeycomb coil is the best, its HF coil that can pick up wide spectrum of frequencies.Its not easy for me to explain this due to language barrier however right now I'm building a "proof of concept" a simulation where my earth is a weak slow magnet interacting with other things, I want to simulate the effect first to see if my theory is correct.They key is hendershot compass that I had replicated (I think i did), looking at hendershot solid state device wont tell you much however the magnet is there.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #183 on: July 24, 2018, 10:40:00 AM »
Wesley,

Thanks for your part 1 video. One observation about the ground wire length being a critical factor. When Kapanadze swapped over from the radiator to the water pipe ground in the green box video, the length was very much shorter and yet the device still functioned to light the lamps. Maybe Kapanadze's comment about his device having auto resonant tuning accounted for this.
There was no info about loop-back in the Ruslan circuit explanatory. I see this as a critical element to understand as it would surely affect front-end tuning, so should the loop-back be in place prior to tuning??

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #184 on: July 24, 2018, 11:18:56 AM »
Wesley,

Thanks for your part 1 video. One observation about the ground wire length being a critical factor. When Kapanadze swapped over from the radiator to the water pipe ground in the green box video, the length was very much shorter and yet the device still functioned to light the lamps. Maybe Kapanadze's comment about his device having auto resonant tuning accounted for this.
There was no info about loop-back in the Ruslan circuit explanatory. I see this as a critical element to understand as it would surely affect front-end tuning, so should the loop-back be in place prior to tuning??

First we should build the core device and see if we have some OU, even small OU would do, if the device is really outputting OU then it could melt when self looped OR perhaps not... if amount of energy grows to much then the device goes out of resonance for a while... free energy stops flowing, things cool down and after that back again to resonance and OU territory.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #185 on: July 24, 2018, 01:34:29 PM »
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Personally I do not believe that what you describe makes sense or is possible, but I am not knocking what you are doing, I just don't see it, the earth rotates with it's magnetic field and IMO it cannot be tapped as you suggest, at the same time i do not expect I can convince you of that.


I can however see a lot going on that I have discovered that Hendershot lines up with, a lot of aetheric principles, at least 7 things without looking too hard.


But it does not hurt to incorporate my idea whatever you might believe, most are electrically neutral.


That is not to say I don't believe the earth magnetic field plays no part, I think it does, just not as a means of energy generation.
If you show me what you are looking to do I can give you pointers, things you could try.


At any rate, there is not chance that most devices have a "conventional" explanation as they show signs of aetheric energy, current that does not shock, different colour of illumination, arcing at low voltage, thermal and magnetic anomalies and other weird stuff.  indeed, I am not sure this does not apply to Hendershot as well, but it applies to many devices.  indeed a number of Free Energy devices have Antigravity as a side effect.
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I'm not sure if my theory is correct, but i will try and see what would happened, there should be "something" because of third newton law (does third newton law works for magnetic fields too?) but what and how many I don't know. I just don't want to humiliate myself because this could be some stupid BS and lack of physics knowledge on me side lol. plus the language barrier so I will explain more and make some diagrams or even crude animation if I got the good results. The core idea is to push against earth mag field in some tricky way.

Anyways, the eather stuff could be related to magnetic fields, the bigger/wider the field the better, like in your transformer idea, so you could be right, once i made all sort of coil configurations and there were effects that i could not understand like primary bifilar canceling magnetic field coil(non inductive) that lights LED's on normal winded secondary while 0 current or voltage is shown on meter, some say that its capacitance effects but I'm not sure... same goes for coil made out of coil (wind coil on a thick insulated wire, this wire serves as core and then twist/wind this core on plastic pipe), in some cases i could power many leds with 0 currents on multimeter, yet cant charge capacitors with this, funny stuff.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #186 on: July 24, 2018, 01:55:49 PM »
once i made all sort of coil configurations and there were effects that i could not understand like primary bifilar canceling magnetic field coil(non inductive) that lights LED's on normal winded secondary while 0 current or voltage is shown on meter, some say that its capacitance effects but I'm not sure... same goes for coil made out of coil (wind coil on a thick insulated wire, this wire serves as core and then twist/wind this core on plastic pipe), in some cases i could power many leds with 0 currents on multimeter, yet cant charge capacitors with this, funny stuff.


Funny, you just mentioned 2 major aether hacking methods...


So, the bifilar coil many have observed creates a beam out the center.  By many people entierly independent of my efforts!
I have heard people talk about this!

What I have discovered, and really the outer coil in my inductor could be replaced with self cancelling bifilar, either totally cancelled or mostly...


What occurs is that if you induce aetheric energy (there is aetheric energy induced in electromagnetic induction, but normally not enough)  in 2 opposite directions, the opposing flows create collisions, and this creates aetheric turbulence, and this creates pressure...


And this pressure squeezes and focus energy inside the bifilar coil, and if there is another coil inside of that it can gain a lot of aetheric energy, the more you create density on the center of the coil the more the center radiates energy back out, this is because you raised the pressure of the aether so all activity disturbs a thicker more lively aether.
But, the short version is that it makes aetheric energy increase in the center.


Actually ideally a spark gap, or something highly energetic could be in the center...  Maybe a magnet, or a capacitor.  But something, maybe a resistor or light bulb.


However I suggested separate coils because while the EMF and aetheric EMF (yes, there is an aetheric analog of everything) in these coils will still work, it also creates a magnetic N pole in the center, and I have found this kind of thing can create aetheric magnetic monopoles!!  Not sure regular ones exist, but they exist aetherically!


Ok, now about the coil made of a coil...


So the first coil that I felt energy from after 17 years was a coil made of wire that was coiled around a central wire.
I could feel this coil issue and energy, even after it was disconnected the energy would persist, then I found if I made it asymmetric it would work without being connected to anything electrical, it just needs needs some bias.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #187 on: July 25, 2018, 11:31:49 AM »
I read comments below last Panov video. He state Ruslan Dębice can only light something like 100w bulb. Prawdopodobnie czegoś brakuje 😋 albo już ktoś dotarł do Panova i wytłumaczył mi co i jak..... Kiedy wreszcie zrozumiecie że urządzenie musi przedstawiać realną wartość dla ludzkości np pozwolić na ogrzewanie domu bez kosztów eksploatacyjnych a przy tym nie może być ani cienia wątpliwości że nie pobiera lewego prądu z sieci elektroenergetycznej. Do tego kwestie testòwt , zabezpieczeń, bezpieczeństwa , atestówa, bezpieczeństwast, instrukcji obsługi serwisu części itd. Bez wsparcia lokalnego rządu to sie nie uda.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #188 on: July 25, 2018, 12:13:19 PM »
I read comments below last Panov video. He state Ruslan Dębice can only light something like 100w bulb. Prawdopodobnie czegoś brakuje 😋 albo już ktoś dotarł do Panova i wytłumaczył mi co i jak..... Kiedy wreszcie zrozumiecie że urządzenie musi przedstawiać realną wartość dla ludzkości np pozwolić na ogrzewanie domu bez kosztów eksploatacyjnych a przy tym nie może być ani cienia wątpliwości że nie pobiera lewego prądu z sieci elektroenergetycznej. Do tego kwestie testòwt , zabezpieczeń, bezpieczeństwa , atestówa, bezpieczeństwast, instrukcji obsługi serwisu części itd. Bez wsparcia lokalnego rządu to sie nie uda.
Rough Google translation: Probably something is missing 😋 or someone has already reached Panov and explained to me what and how ..... When you finally understand that the device must represent a real value for humanity, for example, allow heating your home without operating costs and at the same time there can be no doubt that it does not charge the left electricity from the power grid.
This includes test, security, safety, approval, security, parts service instructions, etc. Without the support of the local government, it will not work.

Hmm, how do we construe the meaning of the highlighted text??

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #189 on: July 25, 2018, 12:49:33 PM »
Well does it or doesn't it use stray current from the grid?? Maybe this is what Wesley needs to establish during his visit to Latvia.



Panov said it can only give 100W and only when ground cable Has correct lenght. Sorry this tablet force je to wrote in Polish

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #190 on: July 25, 2018, 01:04:12 PM »
Hi Guys, there is a recent message from Sergej Panov in Wesley channel:

"The device does NOT produce any free energy! It is a scam perpetrated by Kulabuhov! The device works from a hidden AC connected wire! The whole free energy Kulabuhov device is fake! End of story!  Big scam!"

I am not an active member, but I read the post quite often, Perhaps someone with more clarity could explain the reason for the message?

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« Reply #191 on: July 25, 2018, 01:50:56 PM »
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"The device does NOT produce any free energy! It is a scam perpetrated by Kulabuhov! The device works from a hidden AC connected wire! The whole free energy Kulabuhov device is fake! End of story!  Big scam!"
now Panov claims that its a scam? why he changed his mind?? what the hell is going on between ruslan and panov??

Ok it seems that Panov was joking and here is the rest of it (truth?)

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o whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash! Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! ..."


Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #192 on: July 25, 2018, 02:20:32 PM »
now Panov claims that its a scam? why he changed his mind?? what the hell is going on between ruslan and panov??

Ok it seems that Panov was joking and here is the rest of it (truth?)


o whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash! Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! ..."


Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line. The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov. Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground. The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line. Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court to stand by his free energy claims.

where is vid 9 pointer and all this quote information from and it's pointer ?

More to the point why is he and Ruslan never show storage caps don Smith and Daily originals devices had ?


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #193 on: July 25, 2018, 02:56:20 PM »
where is vid 9 pointer and all this quote information from and it's pointer ?


Panov has this comment pinned to his most recent video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy5za1r5gCw


Here's the exact quote from Sergej Panov in English:
"ENGLISH:
Basically if you look at the schematic that I show in video #9, those 2 relays play a role in turning the AC line on
and maintaining it after you remove the battery. Buttons Start/Stop turn on and turn off the AC line.
The device has unnecessary schematics and play no role whatsoever in generating of free energy as claimed by Kulabuhov.
Fans spin, LEDs shine, Tesla works, it all looks real and works but the real energy comes from under a hidden wire that Kulabuhov
had hidden under the neutral black thick cable(as seen on the video) that ran from his device to the ground.
The ground markings on the black cable indicate that underside of them was loose because it housed an AC line.
Basically Kulabuhov scammed people and myself for years, he sold me a free energy device that was rigged to work from AC line
and deceived me, I had enough evidence to take him to a civil court and won all my money back - he didn't even show up in court
to stand by his free energy claims."

Here is what Panov wrote in Russian (translated to English):
"To whom it is necessary, comment, I will put a photo of super quality. Guys, do not cut it, do not swear, I'll ban and wash!
Respect each other! Movie about running BTG near the end of the video, it's just an example of how Kulabukhov easily
fooled us all! The principle / secret of the work of Kulabukhov's BTG is = PHASE! Guys, thank you, do not need any money,
save yourself for the details or for the family, but who wants to transfer, thank you to you, that's my yandeh number,
there are no others. Photos will soon make and lay out: <yandex link>

00:01 Schemes, boards, connections, drawings!
22:40 Disclosure of the secret / operating principle of the Kulubukhov perpetuum mobile, Bes-Fuel Generator!
1:06:15 The markings!
1:17:06 Focus-Pokus BTG! How Kulabukhov bred!
1:41:16 What says Kulabukhov after selling me BTG!"


So Sergej Panov is now claiming that the device he purchased from Ruslan is a fake.
I think a while back Wesley stated that this guy Panov is a troll trying to discredit Ruslan.
So, we have two possibilities. Either Ruslan's device is fake, or Sergej Panov is a troll who is making 
a very big effort to discredit Ruslan. I'm not going to jump to any conclusions as I don't know anything
about this Sergej Panov guy, but there is no doubt that this looks bad for Ruslan. :)


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« Reply #194 on: July 25, 2018, 03:32:57 PM »
Yeah i see two options:

1.Ruslan device was real but geo dependent so it didn't  work for Panov in his country so angry Panov decided to discredit Ruslan by claiming its all fake.
2.Ruslan device was and still is fake, big scam.

any other possibilities? I don't think so...