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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #150 on: June 11, 2018, 10:02:34 PM »
We also found the shocking effect when tapping a stick welder's positive electrode to a large metal plate. Everybody in the room could feel a shock on their face and skin

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« Reply #151 on: June 12, 2018, 05:51:34 PM »
We also found the shocking effect when tapping a stick welder's positive electrode to a large metal plate. Everybody in the room could feel a shock on their face and skin

Belfior,
Is it possible to repeat the "test" a several times to see if the effect occurs again?
Maybe ypu could also register some parameters... like voltage.....air moisturecontent etc. to see what the important parametersare?

Greetings

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #152 on: June 12, 2018, 11:03:10 PM »
Hi AG,

You may consider these to get a 9 Hz signal:
1)  There is accidentaly just a 9 kHz crystal on sale at ebay ( https://www.ebay.com/itm/263714732731 ) and you divide the 9 kHz oscillator you build from that crystal by 1000 to get 9 Hz. No need for a tube of decade dividers but only 4 pieces...  ;D

2)  There is the NE567 (LM567) tone decoder IC you may know or be aware of. It has a precision RC current controlled oscillator (better than that of say in the NE555) capable of operating from very very low frequencies. 

What I think it would also be practical to run the built-in oscillator at 9 Hz and phase lock it to the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz reference clock you derive from a normal 32.768 kHz oscillator and divider chain used in crytal controlled watches.

Yes,  the 9th harmonic of a 1 Hz square wave may have a small amplitude at 9 Hz but using say a 2nd order active op amp band pass filter for 9 Hz would help to clean up and amplify  the 9 Hz signal component to feed the phase comparator input of the NE567 and establish phase lock with its internal oscillator, that would be your 9 Hz output signal.

Of course you would need to use good quality RC components for the active filter and for the NE567 oscillator (R1C1).  Here is the data sheet: http://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Datasheets/NE567.pdf  and pay attention to the several application hints too.  Texas Instruments still manufacturs this IC as LM567, what is more a CMOS version LMC567  too.   

Good luck.  8)

Gyula
PS,  Wesley,  sorry for this off-topic...
Gyula thanks for the information I already have a a simple circuit to produce 1hz from 32k768 xtal it' sorting out the 9hz from it that will deserve some thought I already have a couple of LCM567.
cheers
Any way might use a cd4046 and a 4017 divide by 9 should give me the 9hz or any freq 1 to 10 or a chip that has  jam inputs not sure yet depends what bits i have.
AG

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #153 on: June 13, 2018, 04:37:53 PM »
Hi AG,
You may find this paper also useful from this site once you fancy CD4046.  :)

Gyula

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #154 on: June 13, 2018, 06:06:10 PM »
 “Dr. Le Bon’s texts contain secrets – very deep secrets as concerns radioactivity and the various means of releasing the intra-atomic energy of which he is the true discoverer. As has been validated, Dr. Moray often would study these texts of Le Bon in order to further pursue his various directions in the field of materials science and of vibratory dynamics. Presumably, these topics were advanced far beyond what we have been told, although we see very clear indications that Dr. Moray was learning the exact modes of applying techniques which Dr. Le Bon had begun to utilize in his Belgian laboratory.”
 
The Evolution of Matter
 &
 The Evolution of Forces
Two texts by Gustave Le Bon
 Reviewed by Gerry Vassilatos
 
 
https://borderlandsciences.org/journal/vol/46/n02/LeBon_Evolution_of_Forces_Matter_Review.html
 
It’s energy from the nucleus that is Kapanadze secret as the amount of particles from this de-stabilization of Fe in the TV core would be so small that it would require very precise instruments to determine that. As to Free energy it’s in the “atom”.. 
 
Acca..
 
 Wesley thanks for the history, as I also work in Earth sciences..[/font]

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #155 on: June 14, 2018, 04:24:07 AM »
http://energyscience.ru/topic73.html
This is link to Tiger  publications . Tiger(Kazakhstan)  is my friend and he was the one who was asked by Stefanov brothers to be an expert during  negotiations.


Long history short:
Stefanov ( Stephanov) brothers  approached me and ask me to come to Hamburg where they  were scheduled to have presentation of their device.
However  they did not have samozapitka - self looping.
But Akula that just started was in his glory of self-looped no battery and no power supply device.


At the show in Hamburg Stefanov brothers   met an Investor.
German Investor   already knows about Akula
Stefanov was presenting  in Hamburg  less advanced technology when compared to Akula (Kazakhstan)
It would be a moment  till German Investor dumps Stepanov...

Stefanov  brothers ( Russians) - have had no choice but  conserve  their fresh deal ,
approach Akula and  become middle ground  mediator  between Akula and German Investor.
Stefanovs would love to  commit robbery  in  Russian Style  but Akula was not stupid.

In order to  be sure that  device is real they asked  Tiger  who was my friend already due to earlier Lithuania Experiment  to be their  technical expert.
At that time Tiger had no relation  to Akula as of yet.
Tiger  was representing Stefanovs and he could not find any problems with Akula's device.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_kXFGNdANU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-04V_NIrC0k
 on these videos you see:
- Stefanov the blond hair.,
-Akula  the dark hair,
-and little older skinny guy Tiger .

After that show ,message was related to German Investor  and he visited Akula.
That moment was also videotaped.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG_FsBn2qxk

In result of these events Akula  went to Hamburg in Germany .
Akula device did not work in Hamburg , and he was in need for Tiger to travel to Hamburg.
Akula contacted me few times.

Based on analysis of that event and another  one - Akulas trip to Riga Latvia
I went to conclusions.

Prior to that trip to Latvia I  advised Akula that he is visiting the same Chocolate Company in Riga that is owned by Russians  murderers who wanted to kill me and  Tariel .
Unfortunately Akulas device did not work in Riga.\
Well fortunately , .. Thanks God  that it did not work. they did not need to kill  Akula .

Me and Akula we went to the conclusion that  the device is geodependent . that means that it work in one particular place  but when taken to   another one ,sometime not so far away it must be re-tuned.
Later on I shared this findings with  few other  key  researchers.
It is worth to say that Ruslan is from Riga Latvia .
Note: (Geo-dependency  of Tariel device was discussed by me   so many times here.)


There was notion  that Ruslan (Latvia) sold  one piece of his device to two Russian trolls 
https://youtu.be/_9foRzZEZRo?t=534

That device was examined and photographed by the buyer  and after long tests trolls  accepted it as working.
After that buyer left and at very next day Russian buyer, started to troll all around... with help of hundreds of  Russian bots "yelling to all internet"  that device is not working.
Since Ruslan did not deny this transaction I decided to  get involved.
The buyer was crying that he has no money to support his family now.
I offered that, I'm willing to give him  equivalent  monetary  compensation in amount of 5k.
I also said that  FE device does not have to be send to me
but I need to  have prove of such transaction  with all of details .
From that point we know that asking  price for FE 1kW is  established at this level.

Russian Troll ...as it was in public had no choice but to respond to me.
Russian buyer - the Troll , refused my money.
He said that he will go to court because money is not important to him, he needs  Justice.
So it was obvious that  that   particular troll  wanted to discredit Ruslan.
And his money was not his, but Russian Troll Factory ( Mr Prigozin ) money.
 Mr Prigozin is also owner of  Private army of  Russian  mercenaries VAGNER) killing in occupied by Russia Ukrainian Donbass and in Syria.

=================
So Ruslan device is also geodependent . Trolls have the device but  they do not know how to tune it.
 It was also  a push from these Trolls   at Ruslan.
Trolls demanded  from Ruslan  to  travel outside of Latvia and, as more convenient and  fulfilling would be if Ruslan   go to Russian Federation  to examine/repair/ ( make it work )  - as a device is now at Russian Territory .
We know how FSB(former KGB) can enhance ability of individual   by use of tortures.



I'm going to be  at home soon and I will try to  respond to  your posts.
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #156 on: June 14, 2018, 01:15:50 PM »
It's good sometimes to read old American books.
In the books you can find answers to various questions.
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1805/1805-h/1805-h.htm

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/634

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #157 on: June 16, 2018, 03:00:06 AM »
Let me remind you that general statement was that all of Tariel Kapanadze devices
1. first electric motor  driven
2. electrostatic
3. Hydroelectric
are based on the same  principals of operation:
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Note:
a.  it is worth to note, that  capacitor does not have to have two plates but much more, and plates in between can be not connected anywhere.
b.
it is worth to note,  that capacitor can be made  from conductive but non magnetic particles such as copper or aluminum suspended in electret.
c.  it is worth to note,  that  capacitor can be made  from conductive iron  particles suspended in electret, and as such it will be acting in similar way to a ferrite but having much more charge  storage
d. it is worth to note,  that capacitor can be made from much more efficient polymers that  are mixed  with  metal particles in their  changing phase from liquid to solid   in one of ways  said above in "b" and "c"..(teflon, maylar)
    Action of such will be much more efficient than Coaxial Cable  Electrostatic  Generator. ( one of them was used by Tariel  for presentation made to me)
f. It is worth to mention similarity between Electric Field Mill and New Type of Capacitive Machine.

Note: descriptors market in "fat print" are searchable in internet.
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It is the time for another portion of information about Kapanadze device  to be mentioned.
In order for electric motor in Kapanadze assembly  to be effective we mentioned need for  short impulses powering motor and long intervals between impulses to let motor produce its own impulses due to inertia of the  shaft ( rotor)
So how do we  know that such assembly works or not?
For that wee need to go to  Electret and to Electric Field Mill
We may look  at it as :

Electret -  energy conservation http://www.keelynet.com/electret.htm
Electric Field Mill - electrical charge level  reference in V/m in vertical vector . http://a-tech.net/ElectricFieldMill/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEDdt53lj0E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-G1xPD0tI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzDtm-am-t0


and that takes us  to :Energy and Power Engineering, 2015,
A New Type of Capacitive Machine
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/276376577_A_New_Type_of_Capacitive_Machine
it is quite fresh year 2015 .
So the machine is much  smaller then equivalent of  electric motor
quote:

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The simulation results show that the proposed machine is able to reach the same power output as the electromagnetic machines.   
It is known that around 1m up from the earth is ~ 100V - picture A   https://www.tcd.ie/Physics/study/current/undergraduate/lecture-notes/py1h01/Lecture%2013%20Electricity.pdf
per every meter  so at 10m ~1000V ( not always so!!!)
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It is not important how we make ;
-electrostatic potential
-or increase  electrostatic potential
 Any means is OK. However  we may  operate with lesser or higher  efficiency. And that might be important.
 from exotic ways to  create ,store or stimulate Electric Field and/or Electrostatic Potential Difference 

I can mention here:
- Isotopic 
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SP6e0zWxOM (Radon is everywhere)
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96bybrgI6V0
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge8FfWI3nn8 
this one is especially interesting it uses spark gap doped with CS-137.what this guy does not know is that  if it is placed in small  tube  it works like turbojet. Nice ionized particles .
And when you use coil and magnet to speed it up ... there you go..
all you need is potential difference for electrostatic pump and two grounds. ( well one can be capacitive)

- Ion Thruster ( questionable if not in Vacuum)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kl-vromzaQ
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCVVeiL2D1E
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_apbNC8iGA  ( Static Field Meter / Ion Test Kit) cheap toy

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 To increase  voltage potential  we may use vertical vector in m/V
Look at past picture below http://www.keelynet.com/indexjan16.html

Enjoy it  for now I'm going to add more

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #158 on: June 16, 2018, 09:53:58 AM »
Yes, the launch for the mass appearance on the forums of the topic of electrets was this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc4jWOKdQQc


in which a foil with perforated holes is removed from the package.
This film looks like a waste of an electret film from the production of electret microphones. I wrote on several forums several messages about electrets and their properties. It was about 10 years ago. :-\ Then the topic of electrets became popular and spread around the world. :o
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Brooklyn Eagle July 10, 1932 Nikola Tesla states: I have harnessed the cosmic rays and caused them to operate a motive device. Cosmic ray investigation is a subject that is very close to me. I was the first to discover these rays and I naturally feel toward them as I would toward my own flesh and blood. I have advanced a theory of the cosmic rays and at every step of my investigations I have found it completely justified. The attractive features of the cosmic rays is their constancy. They shower down on us throughout the whole 24 hours, and if a plant is developed to use their power it will not require devices for storing energy as would be necessary with devices using wind, tide or sunlight. All of my investigations seem to point to the conclusion that they are small particles, each carrying so small a charge that we are justified in calling them neutrons. They move with great velocity, exceeding that of light. More than 25 years ago I began my efforts to harness the cosmic rays and I can now state that I have succeeded in operating a motive device by means of them. I will tell you in the most general way, the cosmic ray ionizes the air, setting free many charges ions and electrons. These charges are captured in a condenser which is made to discharge through the circuit of the motor.

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« Reply #159 on: June 18, 2018, 01:11:01 PM »
Probably it will be interesting. My old experiment with electret.

Someone has read that some high-voltage capacitors are sold by a shorted with external jumper. Because they, even 100% discharged, can independently accumulate a dangerous charge. But not every capacitor can do this. Most can not.
Let's create this feature of the capacitors artificially.

 We take an ordinary "old scool" capacitor. For example, from the old Soviet microwave oven, K75-15 1 μf 5000 V.
I chose this. But maybe some other one. I chose based on the fact that the capacitor should be with a combined dielectric. Dielectric - paper and plastic film. And everything is soaked in oil.
The paper does not press through when heated. Otherwise the softened plastic would be pressed and a short circuit formed.

so... let's go..
Very careful! Outdoors, not with combustible materials! Dangerous! Do not repeat!
(I drilled a small hole on the top of the condenser for the escape of gases. But I'm not sure that it's necessary. Depends on temperature.)

We take a small pan. We put the capacitor there. Place a wooden stand under the condenser so that it does not stand on the metal bottom of the pan.  Fill this small pan with oil. Sunflower or similar. We charge the capacitor with high voltage (I had 3.2 kilovolts). Leave it connected.
Heat to near the boiling point of the oil, 227 °Celsius.
We are waiting for 20-30 minutes. Switch off the heating.
After 2 -3 hours, when the oil completely cools, turn off the high voltage and discharge the capacitor with a screwdriver.
It is advisable not to cook in this pan afterwards. If capacitor oil gets there, it can be very dangerous for health.
Connect the voltmeter to the capacitor through 1 gigaohm and observe how the capacitor is self-charged "from the air".
If one terminal of the capacitor is grounded, and the other is connected to a polished ball and blow it with ionized air (from Chizhevsky's chandelier) - the capacitor is charged much faster.

The capacitor charges itself to 100 - 200 volts for 20 - 40 minutes. The effect lasted about 2 weeks, gradually weakening.
Under other conditions, it can be different.

To obtain significant energy in this form is not applicable. Although, anything can be.
Scientists call it "Electrostatic Adsorption"

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« Reply #160 on: June 21, 2018, 02:37:20 PM »
Gyula thanks for the information I already have a a simple circuit to produce 1hz from 32k768 xtal it' sorting out the 9hz from it that will deserve some thought I already have a couple of LCM567.
cheers
Any way might use a cd4046 and a 4017 divide by 9 should give me the 9hz or any freq 1 to 10 or a chip that has  jam inputs not sure yet depends what bits i have.
AG
Re above harmonious frequency's that don't appear to modulate your brain and are reported to have other useful properties of use here. :D
the 11.0592mhz xtal and a CD4060 are capable of producing multiple divisions of the 432hz frequency ie 1.382026 mhz will divide by 432 = 3200.
If this is of any use to you, with out going too deep feel free.
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« Reply #161 on: June 24, 2018, 10:07:33 PM »
Hi Wesley, guys,

I have been away for quite a while. Very busy with work.
Wesley thanks for posting your ideas on Kapanadze's devices.

A few comments:

It is good to have ideas, but I think most people would agree that at some point you have to put
those ideas to the test on the bench to see if they might 'hold water' or not. My approach over the years has been to take
various ideas found in forums like this and my own ideas as well and try to distill them down to the simplest test setups
I can come up with to put those ideas to actual bench tests.

Regarding some of the ideas you have been mentioning here:

Electrostatic charging of capacitors:
I have experimented with using a high voltage electrostatic voltage applied to one
plate of a HV pulse capacitor (low ESR) with the other plate of the capacitor connected to earth ground, and I
was only able to get a weak charging effect. The capacitor was 'charged' using HV discharge pulses
through a sparkgap and through a HV, high speed diode to rectify the pulses to DC, so the cap could charge.
I tried the HV diode in both orientations (cathode to ground, anode to ground) with the same very poor results.
Results: Very weak charging on the capacitor. Output power would be very tiny compared to input
power to drive the HV flyback transformer.

Using multi-plate capacitors:
I have run quite a few different tests with home-made multi-plate capacitors
at lower voltages being fed in different ways and taking off the power in different
ways and found that output power consumed by a load was always matched with a corresponding increase in input power.
Results: I was not able to find any test configuration that seemed to give more power out than in (at lower voltages).
At much higher voltages and using higher capacitance home-made multi-plate capacitors, you might see
different results, but based on my experiments with electrostatic charging of two plate HV caps mentioned above,
it doesn't look too overly promising from the point of view of my own actual bench test results.
If there is a way to get OU out of such a setup, it would seem there may be something else missing yet.


Wesley, I appreciate your efforts to share your ideas, but I find your ideas are sometimes a little too disjointed
and too cluttered with other info or comments, so sometimes hard to follow. For what it is worth, my suggestion
for people who have ideas of how Kapanadze's or others' claimed FE devices might work is
to try to condense your ideas down and make them as clear and to the point as possible.
Keep other less related comments and ideas completely separate from any specific idea you are trying to relate. :)

Then think about the simplest test setup you can try to put those clarified ideas to the test.  If you make an effort to do it
that way, I think you will find that many ideas can be put to the actual test with relatively simple test setups.
Without distilling ideas down to a basic and straight forward and practical test setup, you only have ideas. :)

Remember Kapanadze was apparently not trained at all in electronics and also apparently didn't even have
an oscilloscope, so if his devices really work then the principle behind it would seem not to be very complicated.
From what I have seen, many people seem to try to over complicate things, even though they are aware that
Kapanadze was using only a very simple setup and apparently only had simple measurement tools such as
a voltmeter/multimeter and clamp ammeters.

I understand why many people think Kapanadze's devices must be fake, as how could such a simple
setup such as Kapanadze's early electronic devices such as shown in his 2004 video demo
power five 1kW bulbs fairly brightly and also self power the driving circuitry?
(Note: the 2004 Kapanadze setup showed  that it had only one earth ground wire.)
However, Kapanadze has demoed his devices under various circumstances in front of various
different people and no one has so far reported any credible evidence of tricks that I have ever seen.

His devices could be fake, but, the island demo for one, realistically would have been very hard to fake
if the circumstances that were reported about that demo are fairly accurate. Kapanadze was said to have
been taken to a random beach on a random island by boat by some potential investors and his device
ran right there on the beach. For me anyway, although Kapanadze's or any other FE claimant's devices could be fake,
the varying conditions under which Kapanadze has demonstrated his devices over the years lends more credibility
to his claims than many other claimants, at any rate.

Wesley, the idea that Kapanadze's or Akula's seemingly similar setups could be geo-location dependent has also
occurred to me, and I have mentioned this possibility a few times in the past as well. This would mean
that if you are not in a suitable location, all your experiments on these types of setups might be pointless.
Don Smith definitely indicated strongly in at least one of his presentations that geo-location was important
for his earth grounded devices, for which some of the devices he presented were seemingly quite similar to Kapanadze's devices.
Don Smith's claims were not so credible to me however, as I am only aware of one presentation
where Don Smith put his suitcase device to the test in front of an audience, and it was a bit too short of a test
to try to draw any definite conclusions.
One thing that makes me question this geo-location dependent idea for Kapanadze's devices anyway, is Kapanadze seemed
to have no problem demonstrating his setup in Turkey, and I think someone mentioned that the island demo Kapanadze did
was in the Mediterranean area somewhere, if I remember correctly. His device apparently worked well on that island as well.
Akula's setup however, which may be related but different than Kapanadze's devices did seem to possibly be very geo-location
dependent, although Akula apparently did get his dual tesla coil device setup to self run and power one or two small
fluorescent bulbs at the same time, in Germany, according to one video that was posted to Youtube. It wasn't kW's
of output however.

Wesley, if you are interested, I will post info here on a related setup to Kapanadze's devices which I think has a lot of
similarities to Kapanadze's simple bare bones 2004 device and green box devices, and which is quite well documented,
and which I think is reasonably credible as well. Let me know...
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« Reply #162 on: June 25, 2018, 10:07:16 AM »
Good summary of the present situation Void. Please post the Kapanadze related device you mentioned.

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« Reply #163 on: June 25, 2018, 02:10:00 PM »
Found this while searching an interesting lecture from Don L Smith.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S81tQBaAsuU

watch it while it's still on !!

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« Reply #164 on: June 25, 2018, 03:42:10 PM »
Good summary of the present situation Void. Please post the Kapanadze related device you mentioned.

Hi Hoppy. It's something that myself and others have posted to these forums before over the years, so it
is not new, but for some reason people seem to have not paid it too much attention. I have no idea if it might work
on the same principle as what Kapanadze is doing (assuming Kapanadze's devices are legit), but it has
the same basic components as Kapanadze's devices and uses an earth ground. It may possibly work on the same
principle, but with a bit different layout. I'll wait to see if Wesley is interested in having the info posted here in this
thread or not. It is something you have seen before Hoppy in the Daly thread, but I personally think it deserves a
much closer analysis.


 

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