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Author Topic: Kapanadze and other FE discussion  (Read 1147392 times)

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2018, 11:33:05 PM »
For these skilled in art:
You know what I'm talking about

Для специалистов  квалифицированных в искусстве Вы знаете, что я говорю ...............

Уэсли
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2018, 04:36:41 PM »
  And just did a search for FeZrMg alloy and the search engine went off line. Ok for other things tho. Hmmmmm?

Starting to see a pattern here. But then, if the combo goes beta, wouldn't want to be messing with it anyhow. Now without some lead sheilds.

stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2018, 09:39:04 PM »
As far as I'm aware :)  Tariel in Green box used two grounds  apart from each other.
 1- cold water  pipe.
2 copper radiator  soaked with water  and buried at depth of ~1.75 m
the distance between two grounds  was around 25m
and now compare it to Wesley's contribution


Насколько я знаю, Тариэль в зеленой коробке использовал два гранда
  1 - труба холодной воды.
2 медь: радиатор пропитанный водой и похоронили на глубине ~1.75 м, расстояние между двумя грандами былo около 25 м
и теперь сравните его с Уэсли и вклад

Note: please note that distance between grounds  is pointed here - not distance  between  components of Tariel device.
Нота: прошу обратить внимание, что здесь указано расстояние между грандами, а не расстояние между компонентами устройства Tariel.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2018, 10:53:11 PM »
At 11:23 in part 1 it can be seen that the water pipe is the only ground, as the end of the radiator cable can be seen laying on the ground. Despite this Kapanadze has claimed that the devices self-run with just one ground connection. The Aqua 2 device clearly demonstrates this.
Take a look at this shot: -


stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2018, 11:06:00 PM »
At 11:23 in part 1 it can be seen that the water pipe is the only ground, as the end of the radiator cable can be seen laying on the ground. Despite this Kapanadze has claimed that the devices self-run with just one ground connection. The Aqua 2 device clearly demonstrates this.
Take a look at this shot: -

At first video show  (prior to  link at 10:04)  car radiator    being buried. https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=257
 
please look here . 
https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=604     link at 10:04
then video shows  water pipe  connection  at 10:58 instead of radiator connection
https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=658

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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #20 on: June 03, 2018, 12:51:17 AM »
 https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474

Attachments:
1. http://www.searchanddiscovery.com/pdfz/documents/2014/41332nelson/ndx_nelson.pdf.html  NOTE: you need to place mark I'm not robot
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_battery

 
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To use the natural electricity, earth batteries fed electromagnets, the load, that were part of a motor mechanism.
3.https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433023210184;view=1up;seq=80     this is simply  a jewel.  1885 book talking about earth battery construction start from page 72
 it is related to  third picture below 


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stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #22 on: June 03, 2018, 10:36:23 AM »
really? I always fought that green box worked on two ground wires, one for water pipe and other for buried radiator. I also dont like the Arunas diagram too, tesla coil secondary does not have such sharp  waveforms?
Hi guys,
You could just drop PM to me while getting confused with that pic which Wesley added.
First at all, the one ground rod or two ground rods it does not matter.
Second, the Tesla coil and middle plate of capacitor(top load) are separated by spark gap in that pic. Which is giving spikes we all need.
Third, you have to utilize electrostatic laws in order to gain more particles on the wire from the ambient. This is where current gain is without using power source.

Cheers!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #23 on: June 03, 2018, 01:57:04 PM »

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #24 on: June 03, 2018, 04:09:19 PM »
First we must be sure about the energy source and the mechanism of extracting it.
Good you mentioned that part.
In situation we have with Kapanadze style devices - we are dealing with what is the current on the wires and what happens when more particles with charges are injected into wire.
As soon that is realized there is current amplification in result. Which is your Volts x Amps = Power on output.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2018, 04:46:53 PM »
T-1000
I agree about particles injected, but first how they are injected and second : how they are created or maybe they are already here but dormant till excited (Don Smith).
In fact this could be as simple as photoelectric effect caused by concentrated "cosmic rays" - that is explanation of Henry Moray and Nikola Tesla. Cosmic radiation may be involved also indirectly, that's my hypothesis. Somebody with  knowledge and radio tools can easily prove Tesla radiant energy patent by using directed radio antenna, HV capacitor , HV diode or Avramenko plug and of course ground connection. Such experiments should already be in books. EM wave directed to polished and insulated metal plate connected to diode and one side of capacitor when other end is grounded should charge that cap (or AV plug used).


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2018, 05:39:25 PM »

 Hoppy says:if this "source of  energy" was hidden  "out of sight" than it must have physical connection  but you did not see  it as well as you did not see two ground connected at the same time.
by that  my last post remains valid and worth to be answered in the manner ( format) I   provide my answer to you.


Wesley

I posted a clip showing what I think could be the physical connection. Can you see a telluric or aetheric connection or is it hidden.  ;) Sorry if my formatting is not to your satisfaction. Good game.

I look forward to your next tranche of sketches on the theoretical modus operandi for the Kapanadze devices.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2018, 05:58:42 PM »
I posted a clip showing what I think could be the physical connection. Can you see a telluric or aetheric connection or is it hidden.  ;) Sorry if my formatting is not to your satisfaction. Good game.

I look forward to your next tranche of sketches on the theoretical modus operandi for the Kapanadze devices.

" aetheric":
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Some curious distance-phenomena connected with electric sparks were observed in 1875 by Edison (who referred them to a supposed new " aetheric force "), and confirmed by Beard, S.
This wording can be excluded  as phenomena in question have been  discarded by official science.  ( discarded: " no longer useful or desirable.")
the rest of remaining quote sounds like:
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Can you see a telluric  connection or is it hidden

However  it is difficult to respond as we are talking in two different formats I do appreciate your answer:


Yes I can see presence of telluric current in  format that was  explained by me in form of two grounds, at this particular video ( https://youtu.be/Goq76CQapyI?t=474  )
6V measured by clamp meter .
For these who do not understand  two ground connection please read my previous posts.
It was practically explained  in 1885 without having any theoretical knowledge of science at 2018. They just could see phenomena  and they could not explain  its nature.So they did their best ( year 1885)
that is why  picture from below  should be interpreted as:
- YES we practically see something in 1885
- Yes we know how to practically  use it in 1885
- NO  we interpret it  differently in 2018.

I  include again  picture  below

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2018, 11:18:34 PM »
Since this is Wesley's forum  I am listing two clips form a Russian man in South Korea that is now selling the magnet generators to all for 28 K.. UNLISTED
 as to the energy it's from magnets.. will provide more later..
Accca..

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=27&v=5XsjdSooSnw
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tldhi6nG2Zg
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2018, 01:10:00 AM »
I see all kind of theories discussed,fact all of kapanadze devices operate at 50hz,in some devices
theres a frequency meter showing just that.In the green box video there is missing angles to show it could be real
this opens the door to people saying its a fake.The output in the green box video  is
220v ac,it goes thru a stepdown transformer to provide a dc current to loop the device.The 5 lights
operate at 1000 watts each so 5 equals 5 kilowatts output.Every time the arc jumps a very large pulse
is induced into the coil carrying 220 ac it is mixed with this pulse,this causes a digital voltmeter to not show an ac voltage reading correctly
as is shown in the video.In addition this particular clamp meter, has a defect where it can show a fake current reading
I have a clamp meter like in the video it has this defect,I also setup an experiment to show this effect and posted this a long time ago.There is no current from the ground connection
at all.Tariel uses tricks to fake people out,he pushes its a Tesla invention because people believe Tesla is a
god,so focus on Tesla and go around in circles,its not a Tesla invention nor has anything to do with Tesla.
Tariel wants to sell the idea of a free energy device,but will never reveal the secret,because you can't sell this device
so hes video's are not meant to fully prove hes devices are real only to convince the investor its real to rob him.
For hes devices to be real the sources of the energy have to be very powerful given the large currents
powering the various loads.Could it be fake,its possible it could be fake,however,Tariel must be a genius
in faking people out,or the people viewing hes devices are dumb as shit or it could be the devices are real,but operate in a completely different manner than any known device.I'm of the opinion they operate in a completely different manner,conventional theory will not work.