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Offline endlessoceans

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« Reply #885 on: August 29, 2018, 02:47:16 AM »
Forest
There are generally three groups associated with the reasons why FE devices never come to market.
1) the inventor: He has worked hard to produce a device or technology and generally wants only two things... to get paid for his work and see it help people. However they always run into trouble trying to get paid and greed then resentment generally takes hold.

2) The middle men: These are people who know nothing that matters and have little or no vested interest in the technology. They look for inventors, screw them over with contracts and then expect an equal or greater share than the inventor. They promise the inventor they will find rich investors and once the middle man and the investor have majority share of the company the inventor is out of the loop. The middle man is generally a classic narcissistic abusive personality who lies and manipulates for a living.

3) The investor: These are the wealthy people who generally do not work for a living. They find situations to manipulate for profit to buy more useless shit to impress other people they don't even like because they think it will make them happy. Look at Trump, he is obese, obsessive, cheated on his wives, rants at everyone and everything around him like a 6 year old and apparently binge watches the news all night screaming at the television...and you think he is happy?. What they do have is very good PR people who lie to the public trying to make these self-serving psychotics out to be nice people. Obviously nice people do not sit on billions of dollars while people are down the road starving... that's an asshole.

We shouldn't hate these people for who they are however we should understand what they are and be very wary when dealing with them. If you want to trust a fast talking used car salesman peddling snake oil then you own the consequences.

So you see the whole system is stacked against the inventor and the moment they involve middle men or investors they are dead in the water.  AG nailed it... give it away and then ask everyone to donate one dollar to you and your cause. To hell with the psychotic middle men and the wealthy investors as they are simply not needed and do not matter.


Good statement and Accurately said.  It is that simple.  Unfortunately as an inventor and realist I don't believe the 1$ notion would work.   The greater majority today are so selfish and jewish that even 1$ leaving their pocket is like blood.  There is no honor anymore.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #886 on: August 29, 2018, 03:14:47 AM »
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It is that simple.  Unfortunately as an inventor and realist I don't believe the 1$ notion would work.   The greater majority today are so selfish and jewish that even 1$ leaving their pocket is like blood.  There is no honor anymore.

As a fellow inventor I would probably have to agree.

In the literature it was said that in ancient civilizations the intelligent ones often opted out. They understood that there was no living with the ignorant masses because at the most fundamental level they were barbarians. So these groups left society to pursue the sciences and knowledge in secret and over time they developed very advanced technologies far beyond anything we have today.

Sounds kind of attractive just  opting out of the stupidity.

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« Reply #887 on: August 29, 2018, 03:58:03 AM »
Thank you Wesley. Like you just posted, voltage is electrical pressure. Freq is repeated event in a unit of time, so it is movement. More freq is more movement. I think there is a difference between slapping your face one time and doing it 200 000 times per second?



Yes I do believe the current midels are wrong or something important has been overlooked or omitted.

PS. Is Ruslan still in Latvia? I could go visit him
NO and again NO.
I  will try one more time:
2W power supply  powers 1W RF transmitter(Tx) that radiates 100% of its RF power  to 50 Ohm load at 100MHz (  the load is ,dipole antenna SWR 1:1)
All you need to understand  is that 100% of 1W  power  is radiated  and dissipated by the load.
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Now we retune  Tx :
2W power supply  powers 1W RF transmitter that radiates 100% of its RF power to 50 Ohm load at 300MHz ( dipole antenna SWR 1:1)
All you need to understand  is that 100% of 1W  power  is radiated  and dissipated by the load.
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Frequency has changed but power and power dissipation reminded the same  .
You can repeat the same test with purely resistive load  and you will get the same results.
So your statement is invalid.

I think Gustave made experiments that are still valid. He actually started from ground up and did not take current ”models” as a starting point.
you did not provide any information I can base on
I need  time, event, quote, statement,  particular experiment description and I need to compare it with modern Science,.
Till now you just said e.g:
" Tatiana , she made experiments  presumably in her own kitchen, that are still valid. She actually started from ground up and did not take current ”models” as a starting point. "
Again  your statement is  irrelevant.
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Yes I do believe the current midels are wrong or something important has been overlooked or omitted.
You my dear friend can believe in anything you want.
For scientist,  there is need to  know what model you talking about, and nature of that , what you think  is  overlooked or omitted.

the last  question about Ruslan:
I'm sorry  but ,I can not share this information publicly without authorization.
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #888 on: August 29, 2018, 05:22:01 AM »
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I think about myself as a Jew.
 question:
1. did      I have any control over the fact who my parents are?
2. did      Black Cat  have any control over the fact that he is going to be black ?
3. would that mean that me and Black  Cat we  both have  similar deficiency in some of people minds, and by some people standards ,
just because  they can not  accept  other models  but their own ?

You are using a logical fallacy known as false cause, while the cat had no choice as to it's color you had a choice as to your beliefs regardless of what your parents believed because obviously you are not you parents. You are also projecting, as endlessoceans did not imply you are deficient you did as a means to cast guilt on others.

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Question:
would that mean that me and Black  Cat  , and all o These  murdered by Russians -  we  all have,had similar deficiency in some of people minds, and by some people standards ,
just because  they can not  accept  other models  but their own ?

You alone choose your beliefs as an individual and you own them, the black cat is just a cat and the Russians are generally barbarians. As well barbarism is relative because not so long ago the Americans were cherry picking people off the street, illegally detaining them indefinitely without legal counsel and torturing them. In all civilized countries this is considered a violation of human rights and a war crime. As an American and a Trump fan what do you think of the spank man Trump's acceptance if not promotion of torturing innocent civilians in this day and age Wesley?.


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« Reply #889 on: August 29, 2018, 07:08:59 AM »
1. Forest statement was good and I like it very much.
2. I agree that $1  donation may not work."The greater majority today are so selfish."
but  I disagree with: Jewishness as part  of it.

I think about myself as a Jew.
 question:
1. did      I have any control over the fact who my parents are?
2. did      Black Cat  have any control over the fact that he is going to be black ?
3. would that mean that me and Black  Cat we  both have  similar deficiency in some of people minds, and by some people standards ,
just because  they can not  accept  other models  but their own ?


 

 
I bet you are not going to respond to  it.



Wesley


Hello Wesley

I am responding out of courtesy.  (you lose the bet) ;D

Look....you need to relax a little and I suspect you misunderstood me.   In English language when someone is referred to as Jewish it is not always a sleight against religion or background.   A "jew" is someone who is tight with money to the extreme regardless of nationality.     I am a dinosaur of sorts and do not care much for political correctness.  Forgive me.

The conversation was not necessary to devolve into how the poor Jewish and Polish were shot by Hitler and the Russians.   There have been many atrocity in the past and these keep happening every day the world over.  Nothing changes.

That is all.

I wish you and your Jewish heritage well.

More importantly and related to this thread.......abundant energy is out there.  Oceans of it.   There are Australian Inventors that have achieved the tapping of this source.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #890 on: August 29, 2018, 10:23:16 AM »

At the end it all comes to
1.my  amplification effect with 5000V DC   pulsed in my last experiment in South of America.
2.strange but  I think explainable  behavior of Tariel Kapanadze   using  cement / concrete cover around his ground rods.
Why  did he  do it?
What was the reason?
What is he hiding beneath / directly underneath.

Encasing a grounding electrode in concrete significantly increases its effective surface area to the ground by virtue of water retention in the concrete. A disadvantage is that if the concrtete breaks up due to an electrical fault that causes the water to boil and crack the concrete thereby breaking contact with the earth rod, thus considerably increasing the resistance to ground. Additives can also be added to the concrete mix to further improve conductivity. From this, it can be assumed that Kapanadze, wished to have the most effective low resistance grounding possible for his device. That's also assuming that he had nothing to hide under the concrete.  ;D

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« Reply #891 on: August 29, 2018, 05:12:17 PM »
Encasing a grounding electrode in concrete significantly increases its effective surface area to the ground by virtue of water retention in the concrete. A disadvantage is that if the concrtete breaks up due to an electrical fault that causes the water to boil and crack the concrete thereby breaking contact with the earth rod, thus considerably increasing the resistance to ground. Additives can also be added to the concrete mix to further improve conductivity. From this, it can be assumed that Kapanadze, wished to have the most effective low resistance grounding possible for his device. That's also assuming that he had nothing to hide under the concrete.  ;D

https://www.solacity.com/docs/Polyphaser/Ground%20impedance.PDF
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Gypsum is better than bentonite and can be added to the soil. Gypsum absorbs and retains water and doesn’t shrink/pull away from the conductor when drying like bentonite. Adding 5% by weight, of Epsom salts will further insure moisture retention and conductivity.

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Ground systems composed of copper and zinc are quickly eaten away in acidic soils; yet are stable in the presence of alkaloids like concrete. Only aluminum is unaffected by acidic soils, but it is etched by alkaloids. Soil’s conductivity is determined by its water and salt content. The more salts, the less water is required to reach a specific conductivity. At least 16% water content, by weight, is required for a soil to be conductive.
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No  my friend :
I think Tariel started to use cement only from 2013 as he was aware of amplification losses
( making his device to be unstable and worse performer (and the most important, he hided better the most important part of the circuit)
-according to my explanation in :
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg525275/#msg525275
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If you have any antenna with feeder( coax) than when you connect Wide  Band Signal Amplifier (WBSA), at very next to receiver ( between  coaxial cable and Rx)
than you amplifying  all of noises  and rest of reminding  signal that was not  yet lost in that feeder line .
ratio SIGNAL to NOISE will be   e.g 1 to 1     1:1

But if you connect **WBSA right next  between antenna and  coax than primary signal is amplified  without the noises applied . After 20 Ft of coaxial cable 
ratio SIGNAL to NOISE will be   e.g 3 to 1      3:1
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So if your ***WBSA at  low low frequencies  1:200Hz ( or in Kapanadze 1kHz :20kHz)
 is placed right  next to  your far  away  grounding rod, and your ground  rod  has increased  LC than useful  voltage  at desired shape and frequency is
delivered  after 300ft ( 100m) at ratio explained     right  here.
 
Also tuning earth as
LC and altering its reactive properties  by us, is exact opposite to general practice in every technical book published.
That means that we all are being fooled by good grounding techniques and it turns out that Kapanadze  created the worse possible ground.
However:
- this is the ground we are looking for,   
- and this ground should  be understood 
- and we should know how to do it.
Please note that  quote of Wesley's comment  is better understood if you read  all answer provided by link above.

it can be assumed that Kapanadze, wished to have the most effective low resistance grounding possible for his device.
Dear Hoppy.
you have  made fundamental error in thinking pattern,  by looking at one brick, out of  the brick wall.
But you are not alone  most of electricians/ electrical engineers  do the same mistake.( especially in Russia, blowing things like crazy "all the times". )
They even damaged, Simens turbine, illegally transported to occupied by Russia Ukrainian  Crimea.
Because of lack of support  of educated  German  engineers. 
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-crimea-power-exclusive-idUSKBN19Q26I
https://www.ft.com/content/a0f56c45-bc2f-34d8-86c8-56ae283d5870
https://awfulavalanche.wordpress.com/2017/07/11/why-cant-russia-produce-turbines-for-crimea-part-iv/comment-page-1/
look at last picture below


1. resistance is just one of elements of impedance
2. there never is ,  and never was  only resistance in LC (LCR) circuits for AC
3. Resistance as component of LC reactive circuit is often not important and can be omitted
3a.( e.g  if you connect  primary of 110V AC transformer to 110V DC  you  will make nice fire most of the times.)
3b.( e.g  if you connect  110V DC  relay  to 110V AC  most of the times  relay will not work  due to  its losses on  resistance  )
3c.( e.g  if you connect  110V AC  relay  to  DC  your relay will work  very well on voltages as low as 6-12V , but it will likely burn at 110V DC  due to its very low resistance)
4. Tariel is dealing with rate of change, as this is the only way to create/ change/ alter/ or amplify energy conversion

Our School of grounding:
wants to minimize LC of the ground,
We want to maximize LC response of the ground.
And the only way to know how to do it is by acting  opposite to the  techniques  of Our School of  good ground.
And that is what Tariel does.
Please look at picture below:




Wesley
 
« Last Edit: August 29, 2018, 07:37:58 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #892 on: August 29, 2018, 07:57:00 PM »

Dear Hoppy.
you have  made fundamental error in thinking pattern,  by looking at one brick, out of  the brick wall.
But you are not alone  most of electricians/ electrical engineers  do the same mistake.( especially in Russia, blowing things like crazy "all the times". )
They even damaged, Simens turbine, illegally transported to occupied by Russia Ukrainian  Crimea.
Because of lack of support  of educated  German  engineers. 

Wesley
Wesley,
I've not made a mistake, simply suggesting a reason as to why Kapanadze might have encased his ground rod in concrete. I'm not arguing the points you have made about ground impedance.

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« Reply #893 on: August 29, 2018, 08:03:11 PM »
In English language when someone is referred to as Jewish it is not always a sleight against religion or background.   A "jew" is someone who is tight with money to the extreme regardless of nationality.     I am a dinosaur of sorts and do not care much for political correctness.  Forgive me.

Would someone please ban this ignorant moron 'endlessoceans' ?

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« Reply #894 on: August 29, 2018, 08:07:21 PM »
Wesley,
I've not made a mistake, simply suggesting a reason as to why Kapanadze might have encased his ground rod in concrete. I'm not arguing the points you have made about ground impedance.
OK I understand it.
It means your thinking , tends more to good traditional low resistivity ground.
But how than  we can interact with that ground?
The whole purpose of dynamic interaction or any interaction is based on  response  of elements of such interaction .
DC does not provide  such opportunity.
AC does not deal with  low resistance that is mostly omittable   in presence of reactive LC.
If you make Earth to resonate than your "resistance" at AC = resistance of the ground at "DC"= real pure resistance of the ground
And Tariel   uses AC.

But if I was to think your way ,than the only purpose  of DC and low resistivity ground is when we deal with two  grounds making close circuit.
According to your words you reject an idea of two grounds.
And in DC there is no way to have capacitive  or inductive coupling
So what  Tariel needs ground for?
The only possible answer would be Static Electricity at HV difference of potential.
But that   after it is established is like a book on the table.. Nothing will change for the next 1000 years( if there is no rate of change present, any time in the future )

Wesley

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« Reply #895 on: August 29, 2018, 08:47:31 PM »
OK I understand it.
It means your thinking , tends more to good traditional low resistivity ground.
But how than  we can interact with that ground?
The whole purpose of dynamic interaction or any interaction is based on  response  of elements of such interaction .
DC does not provide  such opportunity.
AC does not deal with  low resistance that is mostly omittable   in presence of reactive LC.
And Tariel   uses AC.

but if I was to think your way ,than the only purpose  of DC and low resistivity ground is when we deal with two  grounds making close circuit.
According to your words you reject an idea of two grounds.
And in DC there is no way to have capacitive  or inductive coupling
So what  Tariel needs ground for?
The only possible answer would be Static Electricity at HV difference of potential.
But that   after it is established is like a book on the table.. Nothing will change for the next 1000 years( if there is no rate of change present, any time in the future )

Wesley
Wesley,
I do not have a preference for a traditional low resistance ground, simply suggesting that Kapanadze might have encased his ground rod in concrete to improve electrical contact with ground. At this point in time, I'm open minded as I don't have a real clue to how Kapanadze's devices work.

I'm not rejecting the idea of two grounds, simply saying that I see no evidence that Kapanadze employed dual grounds in any of his demos. I thought I had made this clear many posts back.



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« Reply #896 on: August 29, 2018, 08:50:26 PM »
Wesley,
I do not have a preference for a traditional low resistance ground, simply suggesting that Kapanadze might have encased his ground rod in concrete to improve electrical contact with ground. At this point in time, I'm open minded as I don't have a real clue to how Kapanadze's devices work.

I'm not rejecting the idea of two grounds, simply saying that I see no evidence that Kapanadze employed dual grounds in any of his demos. I thought I had made this clear many posts back.
Thank you Hoppy.
But please can you comment on my post?
Is my explanation somehow suggestively convincing?
What Tariel needs the ground for?
Is it  because he needs interaction ?
What would you say if you where  to fallow my thoughts ?
Wesley

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« Reply #897 on: August 29, 2018, 09:09:40 PM »
I think the best way to see if there is anything to any ideas anyone may have relating to these types of devices
is to break your idea(s) down to its simplest form or forms, and then devise and conduct basic tests to see if
any of your ideas hold water. The simpler you can make your tests, the easier to analyze the results.
I think people often tend to get hung up on complexities, rather than trying to simplify and break things down to
the basics where ever possible. Just my opinion.


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« Reply #898 on: August 29, 2018, 09:14:21 PM »
I think the best way to see if there is anything to any ideas anyone may have relating to these types of devices
is to break your idea(s) down to its simplest form or forms, and then devise and conduct basic tests to see if
any of your ideas hold water. The simpler you can make your tests, the easier to analyze the results.
I think people often tend to get hung up on complexities, rather than trying to simplify and break things down to
the basics where ever possible. Just my opinion.
I agree I did most of the tests
I will look again at  available  ground related videos, I have seen and give you the links.
If I have time than I will make my own video.
Wesley

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« Reply #899 on: August 29, 2018, 09:19:31 PM »
Hi Wesley. I do not have much time for watching videos these days.
I would be interested to hear a brief and to the point summary of what your idea is, if you like.
I am still not clear on what your exact premise is.
All the best...