Kapanadze and other FE discussion

[AlienGrey]

Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?


For example:

1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?

Are we looking for something that is not there?

Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an EMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity. 

AG

[r2fpl]

Well let's look at a Tesla coil since some of the video content suggests there is high voltage coils, if we put a small neon close to a Tesla coil
the ions are said to ignite the gas in the gas envelope but with an LED it has no gas just a PN junction my Tesla coil alone does not do this
however if we had something similar like an IMP pulse it would (and also destroy most electronics in close proximity. 

AG

IMP impulse or rather EMP ? Such a pulse is an electromagnetic wave of high energy and frequency.  If we add the direction to it, we have the beam focused like a laser.

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Even the basic information is not behind what can be seen in the films.

[Void]

Is there anything that is 100% known about Kapanadze devices?
For example:
1. Whether the HV is generated from the flyback or it is the effect of coils in the circuit.
2. Is there a full 50Hz sine signal?
3. ?
Are we looking for something that is not there?

Hi r2fpl. I looked at Kapanadze's 2004 demo video closely when I was trying to ascertain
what the essential components of his device might be, as that appears to be the most stripped
down and basic version of his device. His later devices became more complicated looking and
most probably have decoys on them.
Tariel Kapanadze 2004 04 28 5KW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tj3neKg5KMc

You see an input transformer connecting to the 50 Hz AC output of the blue inverter box, with rectifier
diodes and a filter cap I believe at the output of that transformer. 
Then it appears to be two transistors on heat sinks with the wires going into the tobacco can.
You have a spark gap firing at what appears to be fairly low current and I guess firing at probably 1 kHz at least,
from the appearance of it. So, maybe the two transistors are used as a flyback driver to drive the
sparkgap seen on that device at maybe 15 kHz to 25 kHz. You then have Kapanadze's coil assembly and an earth ground connection.

I think it is unknown what all is in the the tobacco can, but there isn't much room in there for a lot of components.
I think Kapanadze doesn't likely have another generator circuit in the can, as he probably would have
mounted the heatsinks for a second generator outside the tobacco can as well for good air flow. Maybe I am
forgetting some other component there, but I think that was about all that was visible in that 2004 setup.

So, the possible difference I see there from Daly/Akula/Ruslan is Kapanadze only seems to have
one generator circuit there in that 2004 demo. It looks like possibly a very simple two transistor
astable multivibrator type flyback transformer driver arrangement. So, other than the 50Hz AC
(probably rough) sinewave coming from the blue inverter box output, it looks like to me there is only the
one other generator circuit. I don't think he has two generator circuits there, but maybe another
generator circuit is hiding in the tobacco can.

So, if it is only a flyback driver to create HV to drive the sparkgap and then the incoming 50 Hz AC from the inverter,
then it seems not likely Kapanadze is combining two waveforms from two separate generators at 90 degrees or whatever,
as the control circuitry to do that doesn't appear to be there.
So whatever Kapanadze is doing in that very basic 2004 circuit arrangement, it appears to be
a very simple arrangement. Yet the power output was supposed to be roughly in the vicintiy of 5 kW.
This is probably why many people assume it is fake, as the 2004 setup appears to be very very simple.
So, then, if it doesn't have two separate generator circuits, then what is Kapanadze doing?

In the later green box video demo, I believe someone takes out a frequency meter and they measure
very close to 50 Hz at the output of his device. So, only a sparkgap combined with the
50 Hz waveform from the blue inverter box? The other possibility is the (apparent) astable multivibrator
circuit is used to create a squarewave and there is another small HV flyback driver circuit in the
tobacco can, with the heatsink for that inside the tobacco can, but that seems less likely to me.
There is not a whole lot of room in that tobacco can.

Looking at Kapanadze's 2004 setup is probably the best one to focus on I think, as it appears
to be the most open and most basic arrangement. If there is not two separate generator circuits,
then maybe Kapanadze is doing something even more simple than many people think, assuming it is not
a complete fake of course.


Nick:
Wesley has not replicated Kapanadze's device or for sure he would have demoed something showing OU.

Wesley: I honestly think you are trying to mix apples and oranges by trying to shoehorn this surface
wave and dielectric stuff into what Kapanadze is doing. Take a close look at Kapanadze's 2004 demo video
in which I have provided a link above. How do you tie that simple arrangement to surface waves and dielectrics
and Schumann resonance? I am not seeing it if it is there.

[stivep]

.one of components of polyphase must interact with boundary of Schumann waveguide.
For that you need surface wave.
The same surface used by surface wave.
is  shared by Schumann waveguide.
Wesley

[r2fpl]

Void: Thank you for explaining although I already know it all. When I was asking, I wanted to know more. These trivial questions would give a lot of answers but I see that nothing is known.

Kapanadze's installation in 2004 is possible because he had already done other with "engine". There was also a film from German television.

I think Kapanadze's secret is a breaker. It is not a transistor. It is a mechanical device like an ordinary motor with blades. More a relay. Why? The answer is simple, right!

[Void]

Hello Wesley my friend ...and I will say it again as well.
We can't ignore Kapanadze's 2004 very simple demo setup just because it doesn't fit in with someone's current pet theory.
Kapanadze appears to likely only have one generator circuit in that setup, and if that is right it is therefore probably
driving the sparkgap. The only other waveform there in that case would be the output from the blue inverter box.
Whatever Kapanadze is doing there appears to be very simple. Wesley if you can explain how what you are
saying ties in with what we see in Kapanadze's 2004 demo, I am listening. It appears though that you instead just
sidestepped this question because you can't explain how Kapanadze's simple setup in 2004 ties in with your latest theories. Yes? No? 
Maybe someone gave you some info on Kapanadze's device that you take as credible, but it has to fit with what
we see in the 2004 demo video, no? Can you offer any explanation of how your theories tie in with Kapnadze's 2004
very simple demo setup? That is a sincere question.

[Void]

Void: Thank you for explaining although I already know it all. When I was asking, I wanted to know more. These trivial questions would give a lot of answers but I see that nothing is known.
Kapanadze's installation in 2004 is possible because he had already done other with "engine". There was also a film from German television.
I think Kapanadze's secret is a breaker. It is not a transistor. It is a mechanical device like an ordinary motor with blades. More a relay. Why? The answer is simple, right!

Hi r2fpl. I was just reviewing what is shown there to emphasize how very simple and basic his setup was
in that 2004 demo. Some people seem to overlook that and seem to be looking for something a lot
more complicated, IMO. If Kapanadze's devices are not fake, then what he is doing appears to
use some quite simple technique. Just a very simple combining of a 50 Hz sinewave and HV impulses
into a special coil arrangement connected to an earth ground? Could it really be that simple?
To me, that's what it appears he might be doing in the 2004 demo video anyway.

[stivep]

Phase shift can be created by use of capacitor or .pricking cable to see if you are at 90
And that is kapanadze . insulation of the electrical wire or HV  wireis of the same value.

 one generator is ok.
Andrey Pastukhov even used 50/60Hz and created 90
I agree that antenna must have vertical polarization and it's image needs to be mirror reflected by earth
If you look at Fig 21 it uses flat copper plate with half circles
And is exactly the same as Fig 23 but this one is made from wires and half circles

 at kapanadze we see strange coil
That uses polyphase  and is not important if it has 2 or more components
Or if it uses 60Hz and than creates 90
it can create surface wave and by that couple it's-own polyphase component
With Boundary (The earth!! ) of. Schumann waveguide.
origin of energy!
Whatever exist in waveguide  it must impact boundary of it!
Wesley

[r2fpl]

Hi Wesley. Thanks for the reply. I will think it over and see if I can piece it all together.

P.S. Wesley, when you saw Kapanadze's demo in person, were you able to tell if his coil
assembly was an air core coil or not?

Kapanadze claimed that there is nothing inside the coil but that does not have to be true if the pipe was made of iron or Cu

[Belfior]

Hello Wesley my friend ...and I will say it again as well.
We can't ignore Kapanadze's 2004 very simple demo setup just because it doesn't fit in with someone's current pet theory.
Kapanadze appears to likely only have one generator circuit in that setup, and if that is right it is therefore probably
driving the sparkgap. The only other waveform there in that case would be the output from the blue inverter box.
Whatever Kapanadze is doing there appears to be very simple. Wesley if you can explain how what you are
saying ties in with what we see in Kapanadze's 2004 demo, I am listening. It appears though that you instead just
sidestepped this question because you can't explain how Kapanadze's simple setup in 2004 ties in with your latest theories. Yes? No? 
Maybe someone gave you some info on Kapanadze's device that you take as credible, but it has to fit with what
we see in the 2004 demo video, no? Can you offer any explanation of how your theories tie in with Kapnadze's 2004
very simple demo setup? That is a sincere question.

I think we need to go further. I think there is a better quality than this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thvqFhFIfY

but the old German document had Tariel showing his generator&motor, but what caught my eye was that he powered it with simple electronics on the front side of the glass box. I think he learned from this and was hiding this in later videos

[stivep]

Hi Wesley. Thanks for the reply. I will think it over and see if I can piece it all together.

P.S. Wesley, when you saw Kapanadze's demo in person, were you able to tell if his coil
assembly was an air core coil or not?

https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg528913/#msg528913
when I was trying to film inside the coil Tariel helper distracted me, doing  everything possible for me to do not look at it.
And he was successful.  He was scared bit I analyzed it only after the show.
So I did not see inside of the coil.
In comparison to 2004 video  I do not have clear explanation.
I  can fantasize more or less:
The motor with two disk is   very much known structure and it is nothing new. it requires significant current.
Spark gap has significant impact on phase relation of all elements of plasma.
Two discs and rotation  could be related to the structure https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en
where clearly Mr Corum says about  rotational access that is virtual.( around infinite torus)
But it is to much of assumption to make any sense of it 
The regular electrical motors in  Kapanadze device never  had any load on it.
I assumed  it to be just components  of phase shift generating system.
From energy stand point 
I was testing two ground structure in South America and it could be that Telluric current is impacted with  Schumann  waveguide and surface wave interaction by means of polyphase.

_{( surface wave  interaction with  Schumann waveguide boundary) gives us  some sense of energy origin in Tariel device}.



Wesley

[stivep]

I have an idea.
Make copy  of Andrey device.
the coil 5 and coil 7 ( from my video are grounded.)
# 6 transmission line   can be anything. HV cable or coax or  spark  gap just like  Kapanadze  glass table in Turkey.
 build Corum receiver.from his patent.( just piece  of wire.)

Make it  at the distance of  few meters in such a way that there is no chance for "air" "EM involvement from that Tx  on  the receiver. Rx.
Connect anything , any indicator to  Rx and play with Tx.( that is Andrey Tx)
You do not need  anything that has higher number than #7 ( look  at my video)
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You can also try to have  only 3 and 4 with phase shift squeezing 5
I showed  it in two versions ( one of it is NMR)
forget  about coil #7
just ground #6 and place cap on the top  of #6
You can also try to make #7 winded on Teflon.( the dielectric)
or instead of cap use  nice large piece of polymer .


Wesley

[stivep]

From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
Wesley


 

[stivep]

From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
chapter 2 part2
(Text is slightly edited. I just pointed at intention of  our friend for you to  make it even better)

Wesley

The published material    starts from  chapter 3
the next post is chapter 2
and the last one is chapter 1
so it was published   upside down

[stivep]

From our Tesla's landsman to Wesley
chapter 2 part 3

Wesley

The published material    starts from  chapter 3
the next post is chapter 2
and the last one is chapter 1
so it was published   upside down