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Offline lukaszkwiatkowskii

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3615 on: December 20, 2021, 04:06:47 PM »
Źle mnie zrozumiałeś, nie potrzebuje tego FE co ty masz ani nie zazdroszczę, wszystko co wg. ciebie jest darmową energią posiada swoje źródło, więc to jest bardzo istotne pytanie, jakie będą skutki przeciążenia źródła (pod warunkiem że wiesz gdzie jest źródło).

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3616 on: December 20, 2021, 04:50:42 PM »
jakie będą skutki przeciążenia źródła (pod warunkiem że wiesz gdzie jest źródło).
Translation:
what  is the consequence  of overloading this particular natural source of energy assuming that you know it

Although Tesla coil  of Viziv at  Milford Texas  by Dr James Corum is huge the size of it is not so  important and is no way to be seen as our  limitation.
Very much small  low power  (few kw/h) works as good .
The most important is to avoid  dissipation of energy  in form of streamers, often seen as  micro-lightnings from top capacitor of the coil
to the ground .
Ionization
of the air, is not the friendly factor,  not is  expected. By  that it must be avoided by shape of Top Capacitor.
Fluctuation of energy in Schumann waveguide( -the space having two boundaries  Earth and Ionosphere )takes form of Zenneck wave
when at Complex Brewster Angle lands  at the Interface.
Interface
is two dimensional space  between:
-Earth acting as  lossy conductive medium
 and
-Air
acting as dielectric
 Zenneck wave is than received by properly tuned Rx.
 So Technology of Viziv differs from EEfSW   by use of  man made  Tx and RX  as a pair while  EEfSW uses Rx only.

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And now the answer to your question:


I don't know what is the consequence  of  overloading that natural source of energy.
I don't know if energy able to be transferred to  the Interface Earth/Air  is sufficient to cover global use of electricity.
I have no sufficient  data to perform a calculation and I don't yet know how to calculate it. It is to new to me.

The 10kW/h for single load  at single location seems to be no problem or not much of a problem.
But that may be only the  assumption based on  results at my test site location.
I never tested 10kW/h but estimated figure was based on comparison  of losses to  power delivered on the load.
However 1kW/h  is at no doubt conformed.
It was briefly tested 5kW/h  but results are not steady enough to be used as  supporting numbers.
I screwed up the result by my own  stupid  attempt to re-tune the Rx and than we run  out of time to repeat the test.

Costa Rica
was for me the best ever  testing ground.
Testing - we created an explanation for local guys satisfying enough for them to  don't  interfere or pay to much attention.
It was strange as locals could be doing what  guys from New York were doing  there  according to  our story but it worked.
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I was very cautious about my  luggage. At some point the few thousand dollars in cash 
at the custom control there, was requested to be taken  out from my pocket creating there some sort of discomfort I placed it on the top of x-ray machine
I'm not sure  if that officer  gave me a little less back or  to much less  than that ... But that cash made them to completely forget to ask about  all of that strange
equipment we were transporting.It was
Like a red flag to a bull

Two different media  recording sets were created:
1 . in case of need to  project  evidence  of claimed  by us work stored  on the computer according to our story.
2 .  for our own use that was never  transferred to  the computer.
So there is the evidence of two jobs one we claimed we did and another one too.


The  information about it was published  here  but I never  said a word about testing energy  transmission using interface based on Dr Corum and   EEfSW.
I only  mentioned testing  the Telluric Current.
Significant fluctuation  of  energy have been observed on the resistive load during  different times of the day night.
The impedance  mismatch  was independent  from  my tuning  and origin of  impedance  mismatch is not known to me yet.
So  device tuned once shows after few hours  fluctuation causing  load to dissipate less energy in form of heat.
The measurement was also supported by    thermocouples connected to SR630 16 channels thermocouple  monitor  by  Standford Research Systems 

Two independent groups had tested  energy  transfer from A to B at the distances of 20miles  up to 4070miles  New York/NJ - Los Angeles.
The power delivered to   Tx was kept to be at the smallest value 1W PEP  CW A1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peak_envelope_power
CW- unmodulated carier
A1- is carier only
A2 is modulated carier
A3 is AM
we also tried j3E SSB LSB
https://www.qsl.net/lz1iii/html/Modulation%20Codes.html
I'm authorized to say that It was successful but  communication was tested  as simplex and 1 way only.
The coordination between the Tx and Rx crew was done by  means  of separate digital  means.


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The most important  to understand  is that  Zenneck wave doesn't radiate in air. Communication is NOT DONE IN AIR. THIS WAVE DOESN'T EXIST IN AIR.
At Near field  from UP/Down tuned Top capacitor    wave enters INTERFACE  at Complex Brewster Angle and exists only  in that interface from now.
 in TM mode .

More is here:https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562370/#msg562370

Some results of our tests:
Note not all of the tests have been made in Costa Rica.
There are two different sets of tests.
1. is related to energy  transfer from  point A to point B according to Dr Corum
 2. Energy Extraction from Schumann Waveguide . Results of these tests are not published yet.

Test #1

среда: ИНТЕРФЕЙС ЗЕМЛЯ / ВОЗДУХ
5 миль в пределах <прямой видимости>line of sight
средства передачи: волнa Зеннека
Передаваемая мощность 1 Вт
Полученная мощность от 0,86 до 0,93 Вт


Test #2
другой сайт (место)#2 расстояние
5 миль в пределах <прямой видимости.> line of sight
средства передачи: волнa Зеннека
среда: ИНТЕРФЕЙС ЗЕМЛЯ / ВОЗДУХ
1 Вт Tx Получено 0,3 Вт
 Причина: Обнаружено несоответствие импеданса

Test #3

другой сайт (место)#3 расстояние
5 миль в пределах <прямой видимости> line of sight
среда: ИНТЕРФЕЙС ЗЕМЛЯ / ВОЗДУХ
средства передачи: волнa Зеннека
Передаваемая мощность 1 Вт
Полученная мощность от 0 Вт
Причина: Обнаружено грунт, недостаточный для заземления

Test #4
другой сайт (место)#4 расстояние
5 миль в пределах <прямой видимости> line of sight
среда: ИНТЕРФЕЙС ЗЕМЛЯ / ВОЗДУХ
средства передачи: волнa Зеннека
Передаваемая мощность 1 Вт
Полученная мощность от 0.97 Вт

Итог #1:
если 1W = 100W,
-чем самый низкий, составляет 86% =86W
Самый высокий  97% =97W

Объяснение очень простое.
Если потери в среднем составляют 7%, то
 - 1000 Вт  при отправке дает 930 Вт
 -    10 кВт  при отправке дает 9300 Вт
 -  100 кВт  при отправке дает 93000 Вт
 
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Итог #2:
За деньги, потраченные на строительство и обслуживание только линии электропередач от Нью-Йорка до Лос-Анджелеса,
Путин мог бы построить всю сеть башен Тесла, покрывающую всю территорию РФ, и стоимость электроэнергии упала бы до ~ 8%  на кВтч

to try 1look above at green color numerical 1
Picture from below  describes ready to use  structure for Tx.
Rx is exactly the same but  doesn't have  physical generator .

cons:
Frequency of ~ 130kHz  is little to high for long distances.
Frequency desired   is 20kHz and lower.
That may  require to build Rx  with use of ferrites.( not all so difficult and not so bad)

Note: inverse square law doesn't apply to waveguides.
Interface air /earth is a form of 2D waveguide.

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3617 on: December 20, 2021, 08:46:10 PM »
some other  equipment used in the experiments with EEFSW and Energy Transfer.
Wesley.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3618 on: December 20, 2021, 08:49:04 PM »
some other  equipment used in the experiments with EEFSW and Energy Transfer.
Wesley.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3619 on: December 20, 2021, 11:05:30 PM »
We also used  model 605 and 606  Cober. 24kW i 31kW power respectively.Cober Model 605P High Power Pulse Generator
At full peak output, peak power is 24 kilowatts at 1.5% duty.
 https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546830/#msg546830
Pulse amplitudes to 2200 volts can be dialed-in or extended to 20,000 volts using accessory, plug-in transformers.                     

https://www.tzsupplies.com/pulse-generator-high-power-cober-i5005387/
This video may help to understand more about plasma generators however  on video they are not not using Cober
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkURRlvX0g

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3620 on: December 21, 2021, 09:19:38 AM »
Pół na pół masz rację, jest interfejsem ale nie jest źródłem. Jak by putin sieć tesli to by miał odpowiednio należną mu pogodę, bo te 7% strat z sieci tesli poszło by w jonizacje atmosfery (najbardziej w punktach odbicia fali).

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3621 on: December 22, 2021, 10:46:43 AM »
To masz jeszcze prostsze, a działa i cieszy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9jdv6zD38 , kiedyś podobny zbudowałem w podstawówce na zpt.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3622 on: December 22, 2021, 11:38:33 AM »
To masz jeszcze prostsze, a działa i cieszy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq9jdv6zD38 , kiedyś podobny zbudowałem w podstawówce na zpt.

Poważnie ? myślałem, że żartujesz.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3623 on: December 22, 2021, 12:09:40 PM »
Tak. Nawet dostałem nagrodę, która była karą. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3624 on: December 22, 2021, 01:51:59 PM »
The most important  to understand  is that  Zenneck wave doesn't radiate in air. Communication is NOT DONE IN AIR. THIS WAVE DOESN'T EXIST IN AIR.
At Near field  from UP/Down tuned Top capacitor    wave enters INTERFACE  at Complex Brewster Angle and exists only  in that interface from now.
 in TM mode .

It needs to be understood that winding the particular Tesla Coil according to posted by  me (first picture of my post from above.)
1. 2200m = 136,24 khz takes 30 minutes. (using lathe) or 3 hours  if  pivoted  and  all winding information is  in the picture.
                                                               pivoted manual winding : at best takes 2 people
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg562296/#msg562296
2. this coil is good for short distance testing of A to B energy transfer as mandatory learning curve experience  before  EEfSW.
3. the minimum equipment that is needed for that is:
a-  for Tx 3 pieces  or  just 1 generator,  look at second picture  from previous  post and Tesla Coil.
b-  for Rx exactly the same way winded Tesla coil and the load look at second picture  from previous post.
Person walking the distance of 200m between  Tx and Rx  with LED testing probe in his hand starting his walk
from the Tx can see light on LED in Near Field than LED quickly light dims  in Freshnel zone and disappears.
At the Tesla coil  Rx (receiver site)  it doesn't work that way.  The power is seen only at the connected to it load.
At both  the Tx and Rx  impedance match and complex Brewster Angle  tuning is a must!!! It will not work without it.
tuning  was explained here and in two of my dedicated  to it topics.start to read from here :
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg546325/#msg546325
practical schematic of Tx at 2200m= 136,24 khz is here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg547756/#msg547756
in Russian: https://overunity.com/18913/in-russian-ekspierimienty-po-biesprovodnoi-pieriedachie-enierghii-doska-stroitieliei/msg559483/#msg559483
перейти на все 5 страниц
Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3625 on: December 22, 2021, 02:13:28 PM »
to 3614 :
do You understand the FE spectrum from the Tesla Tower/rec/antenna device as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation FeV and FeA alpha,beta,delta,...... gain potential ?

Sincerely
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3626 on: December 22, 2021, 06:46:26 PM »
to 3614 :
do You understand the FE spectrum from the Tesla Tower/rec/antenna device as
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionizing_radiation FeV and FeA alpha,beta,delta,...... gain potential ?
  Streamers and sparks are not allowed in the test. Ionization is at its minimum.
I share information only and it is no way I talk someone to perform the Tests. It is at your own  responsibility.
The frequency of testing is  20kHz or below it for EEfSW and  presented winding coil in instruction is for 131kHz.
-good only for  short range of energy transfer  from point A to point B.
Wesley 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3627 on: December 22, 2021, 10:28:16 PM »
• How come surface Wave known as Zenneck wave fallows the curvature of the earth?
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1901 Guglielmo Marconi the broadcast took place across the Atlantic at a frequency of 30 kHz
. we may assume that it was Zenneck wave that made it happened.
1901 Гульельмо Марконирадиопередача проходила через Атлантику на частоте 30 кГц.
мы можем предположить, что это была волна Зеннека, которая заставила это произойти. https://www.rroij.com/open-access/surface-electromagnetic-waves.php?aid=87345
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Zenneck wave is the fact that (aside from the exponential decay factors) its field is inversely proportional to the square root of r, rather than to r itself as would be true for usual free space propagation with a source of finite extent. Again, this is not unexpected; it is simply due to the approximate two-dimensional nature of the propagation problem
http://web.mit.edu/redingtn/www/netadv/zenneck.html This is article of MIT
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Janice Turner and colleagues at Roke Manor Research of Romsey, U.K., have developed a Zenneck wave demo unit. This can transmit high-definition video over a length of conductor covered with dielectric with a bandwidth of up to 1.5 gigabits per second.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/infrastructure/a8778/skimming-the-surface-the-return-of-teslas-surface-waves-15322250/
Excitation and use of guided surface wave modes on lossy media
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10998604B2/en

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3628 on: December 23, 2021, 10:19:02 AM »
Fala Zennecka niczego nie sprawia, a tym bardziej tego jak się rozchodzi, jest jedynie reakcją na akcję źródła.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3629 on: December 23, 2021, 12:48:17 PM »
Fala Zennecka niczego nie sprawia, a tym bardziej tego jak się rozchodzi, jest jedynie reakcją na akcję źródła.
Zenneck wave is as form of  electromagnetic energy  has its origin, rules of interaction with  presented to it our own matching load.
You need to understand at first  than  speculate  how to benefit and progress.
Example: https://overunity.com/18992/ionosphere-oscillation-ever-attempted/msg562397/#msg562397
Wesley