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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 627804 times)

Offline stivep

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3495 on: November 12, 2021, 02:01:51 AM »
Nie "molecular sieve" tylko "fuel cell" - ogniwo paliwowe.
translation:
Not the molecular sieve but  fuel cell.
I disagree with you.Time is running forward. Think in category of year 2022.
mylisz sie.
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The material made from manganese hydride would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks
which store the hydrogen and function alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen-powered system.
molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/
https://eepower.com/news/molecular-sieve-for-hydrogen-tanks-increases-storage-capacity-up-to-4x/

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The new material would be used to make molecular sieves within fuel tanks – which store the hydrogen and work
alongside fuel cells in a hydrogen powered ‘system’. The material, called KMH-1 (Kubas Manganese Hydride-1),
would enable the design of tanks that are far smaller, cheaper,
more convenient and energy dense than existing hydrogen fuel technologies,
https://fuelcellsworks.com/news/researchers-discover-new-material-that-could-unlock-the-potential-for-hydrogen-powered-vehicle-revolution/

for comparison I'm giving you everything about fuel cell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz2hV38PQSA

How to make a hydrogen fuel cell power generator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5UO2BYAaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf9U5rySRks Russian but  is in English .

first in the world   Zero emission  guitar
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https://youtu.be/4V5UO2BYAaY?t=936
Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3496 on: November 12, 2021, 09:28:59 AM »
Napisałeś wcześniej:
"f. Molecular Sieve for Hydrogen converting its energy to  electric .. cars.
   and that looks like future of the cars. 1170km from 5kg of Hydrogen."

a artykuł dotyczy czego innego, czyli "Molecular Sieve" nie konwertuje energii, tylko przechowuje wodór w zbiorniku tzn. jak wcześniej pisałem o zbiornikach posiadających tzw. "gąbkę wodorową" - wielowarstwowe powłoki strukturalne wodorków metali (metal hydrides).

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3497 on: November 12, 2021, 01:34:59 PM »
Mniej więcej wiem o co chodzi, a mianowicie o materiał najczęściej z pvdf połączony z wielowarstwową gąbką wodorową NiTi+MgNiHx, którą można przechowywać w temp. pokojowej oraz ciśnieniu atmosferycznym

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3498 on: November 12, 2021, 01:37:48 PM »
the Mirai shows us good performance !
When we divide a conventional compact class car its 6 lt. gasoline consume per 100 Km range we get 60 000 Wh/100 Km = 600 Wh/Km


https://www.tesla.com/customer-stories/world-record-father-son-drive
85 000 Wh battery capacity/681,6 Km = +- 125 Wh/Km ( by average -25 mph velocity ! )


Mirais 5.65 Kg hydrogen x 33.33 KWh/Kg (700 bar ! compressed)   https://www.idealhy.eu/index.php?page=lh2_outline

/ 1360 Km range = 139 Wh/Km ,without given average teste drive velocity !


From Poland/Canada we know a possible lower cost alternative by same/similar Mirai Fuelcell performance  :
http://www.rexresearch.com/holubowicz/holubowicz.htm
I've found one way to utilize that heat, and so propose a high efficiency engine that converts this engine heat into extra work. The conversion quadruples efficiency -- thus fuel consumption and GHG emission are cut by 80%. In addition the NOx emission is eliminated.

the above conventional compact class car 600 Wh/Km cutting by 80 % = 120 Wh/Km !

the compact class car to hybrid conversion :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=9&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19950330&CC=DE&NR=4332378A1&KC=A1#
from 6 lt/100 Km to hybrid 3 lt./100 Km conversion

and by gun engine this cutted 80% = 0,6 Lt/100 Km or 60 Wh/Km !?
and this 60 Wh/Km by " gun engine ..... plus water 8:1 fuel mix  "
= 52,5 Wh water and 7,5 Wh fuel consume per Kilometer ?!  water as hydrogen storage and deliverer
Is the hybrid engine coupled generator not improveable in its efficiency ?  8) Kumar,Tudor-Frunzi,Kango Iida,Akio Hara,P. Arestov double coil winding,Yurth generator coil coating  ,  ......
« Last Edit: November 12, 2021, 02:17:43 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3499 on: November 12, 2021, 01:54:56 PM »
Lets talk for the moment about  the guy I know very much .

The Jewish, American,
blindly dedicated to everything  that is
Polish and Ukrainian  because he has it in his blood.
has now  in his hands  technology  that was also prepared to be patented.
Well  two  of technologies.
1. that was sniper gun that shots  without sniper based and guided by virtual points.
2. energy extraction device.
He contacted patent attorney with whom he was working in  year 1998  on another patent for his company,
and he was told:


Yes  your virtual points are much more accurate than GPS but you'll  end use of entire GPS system and Russians may  steal it too.
Nobody let's you do it.
Your energy extraction device looks too good as a concept  if it works as described.
After you file patent application you'll receive  letter. 
In both of  your  technologies  Department of Energy (likely)  but  Department of Defense  (definitely,)  will impose order of secrecy.

Your application is not going to be touched  for about 3 years..... officially ...
than  the order of secrecy can be extended for ~10 years and possibly extended  again.
They can work on it , use it , test it, and you may not see any money from it.
You may be asked, to work with them but they don't need you... everything is in   your patent application.

Yes... you can sue them ... it's your rights..
But You may not even know that they work on it.



So there  are two possibilities..
1.You are a dreamer  making  me  a fool  because  I believe it  will work but,
  I'm your patent attorney, I don't care .. I'll do my job, get your money ... and you'll be left to deal with this shit ...
  that may be  as well ...a worthless fantasy  good only for science fiction  movie.

2. The second option is that really .. You have it... and that is even  more complicated.. 
    As long as you don't file it to Patent Office nobody knows about it,
    And you'll have no obligations till someone else  independently
    does the same.. You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
     
............. the decision is yours
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So after  reading this story from above you are ready  for   this video.
The story is  similar:
 Inventor filed   patent application and  order of secrecy was imposed  for ~ 10 years.
 The technology was too good.. 
 You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
 Inventor  wasn't allowed to talk about it , write about it , show it   ..... it was  forbidden to the public..
 But he had  priority rights to the  patent  if...  if..... if.....
And Russians could steal it  too.
 
And now many years later  you can  hear about it:
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4



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So what 's going on with the first  guy .. the  one from the top?
Answer:
He is not under obligation, He can go  out with it at any time. 
He"ll not have patent protection,  He can talk about it.
But  so many smart guys out there ..may  get  the same  idea..
He is nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
he can make world different ..
Yes..
So you too....... "theoretically" ...

 
:)
Wesley
« Last Edit: November 12, 2021, 06:46:07 PM by stivep »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3500 on: November 12, 2021, 03:35:25 PM »
Jeśli ci chodzi o ratowanie świata, to ci powiem że świata nie trzeba ratować tylko wyleczyć z "pasożytów", czyli są trzy drogi aby to osiągnąć:

1. Wybić wszystkie pasożyty które powodują chorobę.
2. Poczekać trochę aż pasożyty same się wybiją.
3. Poczekać dłużej aż pasożyty zmądrzeją i przestaną być pasożytami.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3501 on: November 13, 2021, 06:02:21 PM »
Inventor filed   patent application and  order of secrecy was imposed  for ~ 10 years.
 The technology was too good.. 
 You are nobody special.. just the first one... so what?
 Inventor  wasn't allowed to talk about it , write about it , show it   ..... it was  forbidden to the public..
 But he had  priority rights to the  patent  if...  if..... if.....

And now many years later  you can  hear about it:
Energy Storage Breakthrough - Solid Hydrogen Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7CCq4oBgw4


 I read some of the opinions expressed  under the  video :      Gustav Derkits 2 days ago   
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This presentation is so full of basic errors that it made me angry enough to unsubscribe.
Absorption (as is Pd:H) is distinct from hydride formation (as in TiH2).
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Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Any material that contains sufficient
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Hydrogen to function as an energy source by easily releasing H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
In this system hydrogen is stored in a very thin layer on the surface of a disk inside a machine.
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You never discussed how much the system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored and never derived the volumetric or density
energy efficiency. You said the machine extracts hydrogen “from air”, an oxidizing medium, with close to zero free H2, then changed
to “ smokestacks”, a reducing medium, which still has very low H2 content, without thinking through whether either of these scenarios
are reasonable in a commercial setting. I’ve only touched a few of the many bloopers.
 Send this presentation to a real chemist, if you know any, and ask for an honest critique.
The background story of this system is sketchy, with its “DOD stopped us” scenario.
The chemistry and physics are very funny. The manufacturing analysis indicates a high degree of complexity.
The engineering functional analysis shows a large amount of semi-functional dead weight, including the mass of the disk and container.
Your presentation naively accepts a lot of claims at face value. It is not an analysis.


My opinion:

I have problem with
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Hydrogen atoms are NOT positively charged.
Gustav Derkits in his critique didn't mention that Ions are always positive or negative.
Here is supporting link and quote:
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Ions result from atoms or molecules that have gained or lost one or more valence electrons, giving
them a positive or negative charge.
Those with a negative charge are called anions and those with a positive charge are called cations.
It has more protons than electrons, resulting in the positive charge.
why-does-an-anion-have-a-negative-charge

Solid hydrogen by wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_hydrogen differs  in description from  that  explained in the video
that is talking about  Molecular solid hydrogen - in very clever  form of "sponge."
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H2 is by nature flammable.
Fire, once started, will release the hydrogen in the remaining material.
Yes it will but it is up to inventor to  deal with it and investor to take risk.
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You never discussed // system weighs per gram of hydrogen stored // volumetric or density//
energy efficiency.
I agree but blogger sales its content for money from YouTube and is unlikely  able to address this question.
Here is supporting link and quote:
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well-known hydrogen sulfide removal process is based on the reaction of hydrogen sulfide with iron oxide
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/iron-sponge-process
https://patents.google.com/patent/KR20150117768A/en
https://patents.justia.com/patent/10847809
Explanation provided by  Video blogger in form of article is here:
https://undecidedmf.com/episodes/forget-solid-state-batteries-solid-hydrogen-explained


Here is site of Plasma Kinetics the patent holder .
https://plasmakinetics.com/
they make :
light-activated hydrides. plasma-kinetics-light-activated-hydrides.
that  was/is? partially restricted By DoD, DoE.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31950606/

Statement of video creator:
Plasma Kinetics boasts its technology to be 17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries for the same amount of energy stored.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3502 on: November 13, 2021, 07:19:12 PM »
Podstawy chemii się kłaniają, czyli nie tylko występują wiązania jonowe ale też inne, najczęściej polarne np.: dwa atomy nie jonowe mogą być połączone wiązaniem polarnym.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3503 on: November 13, 2021, 08:55:52 PM »
Jeśli chodzi o samochody na wodę to wg mnie jest tu dużo nieporozumień wokół metody. Uważam że wykorzystywana jest tu energia z zewnątrz (ambient energy) do rozłożenia wody na wodór i tlen ewentualnie  na natychmiastową konwersję wody w gaz tzw HHO (izomer H20 o stanie gazowym, nietrwały i wybuchowy ) - jako że gaz ma dużo większą objętość to tłumaczyłoby dużą efektywność takiego paliwa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ0kjilQd1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5Fc8q5TMas
Jak widać mamy technologię aby ocalić świat od zmian klimatu ale z niej nie korzystamy :-(

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3504 on: November 14, 2021, 01:29:00 AM »
Dziekuje za komentarze.
Here is much better explanation  of how Hydrogen on tape like in old tape recorder works.

This Breakthrough Could Lead to the Rise of Hydrogen Fuel!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIe4GulRuYU
17% less expensive and 30% lighter than Lithium-ion batteries

You going to love this video.
Wesley


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3506 on: November 14, 2021, 09:14:29 AM »
Sadly I just see another pacifier while all along we still just have oil. They will not want to give up all that profit. Not to mention, the us refused patents for how many years?  Same old song and dance.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3507 on: November 14, 2021, 09:37:37 AM »
To nie jest żaden izomer HHO, po elektrolizie powstają gazy które bardzo szybko stają się 2-atomowe, przy katodzie H2, przy anodzie O2, a w japońskim samochodzie jest zwykły elektrolizer na akumulator, a do silnika doprowadzona jest mieszanka gazów H2,O2 do spalania.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3508 on: November 14, 2021, 06:41:25 PM »
Zwykły elektrolizer nigdy nie pozwoli wyprodukować wystarczającej ilości H2 z wody używające akumulatora samochodowego aby umożliwić jego napęd bez użycia benzyny.
Izomer HHO jest odpowiedzią, wszystkie wodorki tlenowców za wyjątkiem wody są w stanie gazowym w temperaturze normalnej. Dlatego twierdzę że to może być rozwiązanie sposobu napędu samochodów spalinowych.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3509 on: November 14, 2021, 06:58:08 PM »
Zwykły akumulator pozwoli wyprodukować, a poza tym to zwykły elektrolizer niema tam warunków do izomeryzacji czego kolwiek (to dobre izomer HHO dobrze nie nazwa quantum). H2O2 jest ciekły, no i wodorki tlenowców nie są izomerami.