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Offline ramset

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« Reply #3465 on: November 05, 2021, 12:27:25 PM »
Wesley
Recently there has been a discussion on non ferrous magnetism?
Specifically copper.
The claim seems to be attached to a result obtained during testing with a kapanadze type device?
Others have stated this “ magnetizing “ copper is something which is in the “lore” or past FE
Claims ?
Also l could be wrong ..,however I recall reading “ everything became magnetic”...wood etc etc)
Do you have opinion on possible explanation?( for copper.. Or ?
Respectfully
Chet K
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« Reply #3466 on: November 05, 2021, 08:56:24 PM »
non ferrous magnetism? copper.
result "obtained" during testing  a kapanadze type device?
 “ magnetizing “ copper is something which is in the “lore” or past FE
Claims ?
Do you have opinion on possible explanation?( for copper.. Or ?

Some opinion expressed:

Unfortunate is that that the article in Popular Mechanics  is not scientific .Just a story for  average Joe Shmoe...
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The copper itself is not magnetic, but when its approached by magnets, the electrons on the surface of the copper being rotating.
In an effort to resist the magnet's pull, the electrons briefly create their own magnetic field, which slows down the magnet's descent
https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a15902858/copper-strong-magnets/

The mechanics of this interaction are explained by Faraday's Law of Induction, and Lenz's Law,
If you have a strong enough magnetic field all matter is magnetic. 
But copper is so weakly magnetic that we can't observe it without very, very large magnetic fields. 
So the short answer is "No, copper isn't magnetic." 
This can quickly be tested by trying to pick up a penny with a magnet.
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copper
Magnetism and electricity are closely related. 
When a magnet moves near copper (or other metals) it sets up electrical eddy currents.
The eddy currents will repel the magnet as it falls down the copper tube. 
This repulsion pushes against the magnet and slows it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WIKKXdxNH8

aluminum
Most matter will exhibit some magnetic attraction when under high enough magnetic fields. 
But under normal circumstances aluminum isn't visibly magnetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk4ACjzDFRY&t=1s

lead
Even though lead is not magnetic it can interact slightly with  magnetic fields. 
By moving a very strong  magnet past a piece lead can actually cause the lead to move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIYXomRdLY

Nickel
Because Nickel (Ni) is ferromagnetic it is used in  making Alnico magnets
(consisting of aluminium, nickel, and cobalt).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUvm4TFAWSQ

Silver
Silver isn’t  magnetic.
If silver isn’t magnetic, how do metal detectors find it?
 Metal detectors are able to find non-magnetic metals, like  gold or silver, using a principle called the Lenz effect.
Moving the metal detector over a gold coin  will set up a slight electric field in the coin.
The metal detector can sense this field and alert you to the coin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQk95NcNa_s

stainless steel
Since it contains iron, a magnetic metal, it would seem that stainless steel would be magnetic.
 However, when nickel (Ni) is added to stainless steel the result
is a non-magnetic form of stainless steel (called austenitic stainless steel).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9DaKP2PhL4

Titanium
Titanium-weakly magnetic..  also exhibits the  Lenz Effect but to a lesser extent that many other metals.
 For example, when a magnet  is passed over a metal like silver, copper, aluminum, or brass,
the moving  magnet causes small electrical eddy currents to form in the metal.
The electrical eddy currents have their own  magnetic field which interacts with the moving magnet. 
The result is that the moving magnet causes  the metal to move without touching it. 
With more sensitive equipment the Lenz Effect could be measured in titanium.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1naZTyd361U

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3467 on: November 05, 2021, 10:33:38 PM »
Thank you very much for information Dear naserturk
EARTH ENERGIES, INC 
John Dinwiddie

Main link:
https://uspto.report/company/Earth-Energies-Inc?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=Hmu5ONeRP__Z5dD74dQPNYSh6ssiUy9LBxkh0E4QkME-1636147351-0-gaNycGzNBj0



Patent Date
Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth
Grant 11,152,793 -  Dinwiddie , et al. October 19, 2 2021-10-19 Power Receiver Including Faraday Cage for Extracting Power from Electric Field Energy in the Earth
App 20200295677 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.2020-09-17 Power Receiver For Extracting Power From Electric Field Energy in the Earth
App 20190348842 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.2019-11-14 Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth
Grant 10,389,138 -  Dinwiddie , et al. A 2019-08-20  Power Receiver For Extracting Power From Electric Field Energy In The Earth
App 20170117714 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al. 2017-04-27 Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth
Grant 9,564,268 -  Dinwiddie , et al. February 7, 2 2017-02-07 Power Receiver for Extracting Power from Electric Field Energy in the Earth
App 20150102675 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al. 2015-04-16 Method and Apparatus for Extracting and Conveying Electrical Energy From the Earth's Ionosphere Cavity
App 20150102676 -  Dinwiddie; John ;   et al.

Wesley

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #3468 on: November 05, 2021, 10:41:17 PM »
Some  opinion expressed :


https://patents.google.com/patent/US9564268B2/en

Power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth
I analyzed that patent  few years ago.
interesting is to  read it.

more comments  will come later

Wesley

 

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« Reply #3469 on: November 06, 2021, 09:20:29 AM »
Hi everyone,
It's a been a long time since i posted anything in this forum.Distracted by Wuhan virus and purchased new home,being a landlord and many good etc.

Thanks to Wesley dedication into FE and many of his videos posted in youtube have allowed me to gain out of the box/world experience which is not your typical daily dose of medication. ;D
The 4 layers of primary winding on Kapanadze was reduced to 3 layers (Around 185uH) and increase capacitance(Maintain same L/C frequency as previous) after 3 turns both cases to resolve impedance issues and the trumpet waveform does have a sharper rising gradient as a result after phase shift tuning which consist of  SOT23-6 74HC2G14 after LM393.Nothing much to add.
All this inspired from Wesley video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPHipGkfSAY


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But no amount of FE is going to solve the climate issue,oxygen depletion as the human and other supporting livestock  population grows.
Just do search "earth oxygen level" in google it will reveal 21% and we humans needs 19.5% oxygen level in air.So we are not very far away. :)

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« Reply #3470 on: November 06, 2021, 10:51:08 AM »
Hi Wesley,
Thanks for providing links and info. :)
I didn't have a time today to carefully study patent, but from the first look it seems Tesla-like addjusted to Schumann resonance frequency.
Mechanism that I did described a few posts before.
Creating a lot of reactive power on secondary by resonant voltage rise of top terminal- this will "pump" electrons from ground connection, more and more.
An "open" circuit acummulating energy from enviroment.


Regards,
Pix


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« Reply #3471 on: November 06, 2021, 05:07:37 PM »
Hi magpwr,
"Grenade" coil in Kapanadze, Akula and others- I thing the purpose is to slow down electromagnetic wave propagation. It is slow wave helical transmission line, coil wound in a curious way. This is to physically reduce the size of the coil  to acommodate wave of lower frequency.
Tesla secondary and "extra" coils are exactly slow wave structures, to accomodate quarter wave  in kHZ  area, to minimize radiation of electromagnetic energy. The aim is to efficiently accumulate energy from primary LC circuit, with minimal radiation into space.
Very interesting subject to explore. I still don't understand the way "grenade" coil works and why that way of coiling.


Kind Regards,
Pix

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« Reply #3472 on: November 06, 2021, 06:40:48 PM »
Hi magpwr,
"Grenade" coil in Kapanadze, Akula and others- I think the purpose is to slow down electromagnetic wave propagation.
It is slow wave helical transmission line, coil wound in a curious way.
This is to physically reduce the size of the coil  to accommodate wave of lower frequency.
Tesla secondary and "extra" coils are exactly slow wave structures, to accommodate quarter wave  in kHZ 
area, to minimize radiation of electromagnetic energy.
The aim is to efficiently accumulate energy from primary LC circuit, with minimal radiation into space.
Very interesting subject to explore. I still don't understand the way "grenade" coil works and why that way of coiling.
Kind Regards,
Pix

https://www.commutefaster.com/ATechnicalAnalysisofTeslasExtraCoilasaSlow-WaveHelicalResonator.pdf
A Technical Analysis of the Extra Coil as a 
Slow Wave Helical Resonator 

James F. Corum, Ph.D.
Department of Electrical Engineering
West Virginia University
P0 Box 6101
Morgantown, West Virginia 26505-6101

 
Kenneth L. Corum
CPG Communications, Inc.
158 Salem Street
Wilmington, Massachusetts 01887

They are the guys  responsible for Viziv  and Milford Texas Tesla Tower
Wesley

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« Reply #3473 on: November 06, 2021, 09:02:50 PM »
Hi folks,
It  some thought experiment.
Imagine that at the same time from the same source  we feed step up signal to straight conductor and slow wave structure ( for example loaded transmission line).
If we connect osciloscope at the ends we should see an impulse, due to electromagnetic wave ( potential) propagation time difference.
Am I right?


Regards,
Pix

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« Reply #3474 on: November 07, 2021, 12:01:55 AM »
Imagine that at the same time from the same source  we feed step up signal to straight conductor and slow wave structure ( for example loaded transmission line).
If we connect oscilloscope at the ends we should see an impulse, due to electromagnetic wave ( potential) propagation time difference.
Am I right?

simplified but not always correct answer:
You will see the same  signal coming with delay as slow wave  comes later,
that may be seen as phase delay.

For easier understanding here is an example.

First path:
Think that  straight line from  New York to to Warsaw ( or from bottom of Tesla coil to its top) is =x in meters.
Second path:
you created  additional path.
It is a coil with diameter  1mm  wire 
winded tight on the tube of diameter 1 meter
and  long from  New York to to Warsaw ( or from bottom of Tesla coil to its top)
=x multiplied by n times of x  in meters.
conclusion:
-signal on that coil will travel many times longer till it reaches its destination.


But you may  also want :
-this coil to resonate....
-convert an input voltage pulse into radiation
-have impedance match to desired 50 Ohm.


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and here will be difficult.
Green's function is the solution to the differential equation with a forcing term given by a point source.
point source  was explained here :
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560319/#msg560319
green  function  is explained here :
https://brilliant.org/wiki/greens-functions-in-physics/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green's_function


I created there  accent on line source in my  (Dr. Corum) energy transfer we are interested  in  line source not point source  but we still need slow wave .
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560720/#msg560720so


And now you are ready to read this article  that brings you closer toTravelling wave tube :https://www.egr.msu.edu/~pz/sws2012.pdf
Travelling wave tube was discussed here :    https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg561071/#msg561071
however we don't need any longer traveling wave tube we can do it with semiconductors now.

Wesley

note: the article  from below applies to  slow wave in plasmas and is not directly related to our case.
article is given here just for the purpose of  bringing some understanding of slow wave. 
The common and important is 2D wave !!! marked  in the article with light green color.
the same 2D wave we use in my  energy transfer and energy extraction  from Schumann  waveguide in TM mode
TM mode - means Transverse Magnetic mode
explained here:
https://overunity.com/18335/wireless-energy-transfer-experiments-builders-board/msg560165/#msg560165

note: word Travelling wave tube is sometime wrote as Traveling wave tube with one L.
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« Reply #3475 on: November 07, 2021, 01:26:31 AM »
Some videos explaining traveling wave tube.
Please disregard  fact that it explains different tubes mostly in frequency region of very high frequencies.

This is an addition to the post  from above.
Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-DlgOoz978
Travelling Wave Tube Amplifier https://youtu.be/lL3LqFTW5ms?t=99Teardown of a Microwave Amplifier and a Traveling Wave Tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HGdQ0C7CYg
Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier Teardown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyO0Laz6aLA
Teardown of a LogiMetrics A300/S Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUGVfqy3Ic
LogiMetrics A300/S 2 - 4 GHz Traveling Wave Tube Amplifier - Repaired https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfxJitmqOEk


here is modern reincarnation of Traveling wave tube form :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-Fcf8TmnEQ
it is good to understand  how it works but we  are using very low frequencies in our  study leading to  energy transfer and energy extraction.

Standing Waves: how are they different from travelling waves? | A Level Physics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUFpDFDQn0E




note: word Travelling wave tubeis sometime wrote as Traveling wave tube with one letter L.

Wesley

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« Reply #3476 on: November 07, 2021, 02:02:21 AM »
another application for slowed down traveling wave:
the particle accelerator.
2.4 Linacs: traveling wave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XYHO3bQkPI
well...well...       it is Russian translated into English.. 


I like  this one:
it is  great
(not Russian)
Linear Particle Accelerator (Principle, Construction, Working)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C79838wtRZo
The two links at the end of that video  will advance you to circular/spiral accelerator  Cyclotron and Synchrotron
A synchrotron is made of a torus shaped tube, whereas the cyclotron is made of a cylindrical or spherical chamber.
A cyclotron can fit in a room. A synchrotron is often the size of a football field

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5zhpLfnqGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9bijrQfS6E

https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-cyclotron-and-vs-synchrotron/

Wesley
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« Reply #3477 on: November 07, 2021, 02:24:20 PM »
https://uspto.report/patent/app/20200295677
power receiver for extracting power from electric field energy in the earth

The power receiver 10 converts energy in the ELF/ULF waves to useful form, e.g. 60 Hz AC or DC.
The power receiver 10 is essentially a resonance circuit that resonates at the natural resonance frequencies in the earth's electric field.
These resonance frequencies, known as Schumann resonance frequencies, occur at 7.83 Hz, 14.3 Hz, 20.8 Hz, 27.3 Hz, and 33.8 Hz.
A high voltage impulse initiates resonance within the power receiver 10. In the resonant mode, the impedance of the power receiver 10
is reduced to near zero thus inducing ground currents to flow into the power receiver 10 where the ground currents are converted to useful form.



Wesley

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« Reply #3478 on: November 07, 2021, 03:51:12 PM »
Hi Wesley,
I don't see in Earth Energies Inc. patents how they propose to make resonant transformer in range 0.1-200Hz.
They state to make it resonant in fundamental Schumann resonances 7.83Hz,  14.3 Hz ect. but it might be physically very large.
Big Tesla coils operate in kHZ ranges, and secondaries are at least  few feet tall.
So, the challenge is to construct a coil resonating in very low frequencies. To do it, we need to use "slow wave structure", we need to slow propagation of electromagnetic wave like Tesla secondary or maybe in other, more clever way.
Kapanadze, Akula "grenade" coils might be some sort of solution to slow wave propagation. I don't understand the way they are coiled and a reason behind this shape of "grenade".
Principle of operation of Tesla-like systems, like above mentioned patents from Earth Energies Inc.  is clear, the point is to find a way how we construct resonant winding for frequencies close to Schumann resonances, and have reasonable sizes.


Regards,
Pix






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« Reply #3479 on: November 07, 2021, 04:33:42 PM »
Hi Wesley,
Big Tesla coils operate in kHZ ranges, and secondaries are at least  few feet tall.
So, the challenge is to construct a coil resonating in very low frequencies.

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An electrically small, efficient electromagnetic structure, that may be used as an antenna or waveguide probe,
having an electromagnetically closed, velocity-inhibiting conducting path, for supporting a standing, inhibited-velocity
wave in response to the flow of an electrical current through the path and a process for establishing the standing wave.


https://patents.google.com/patent/US4751515A/en
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/9d/2b/2a/fa977b9aae1691/US4751515.pdf
first  step is to understand .. not the patent but mechanism of making  coil small at VLF.
 
 and  only than  you can  think about  slow wave.
Tariel didn't understand anything..  but .. how many people wins in lotto?
Wesley

PS: Dr Corum  from Viziv application year 1986
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