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stivep

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3090 on: October 24, 2023, 10:21:13 PM »
Part 1
While searching for Frungel's book, I found some mysterious scans on Google books.
Anyone who reads English fluently, please take a look, maybe you will find something valuable. Wesley will probably be interested.
https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946
There seems to be something about free energy at the end of the scans, from page 1946.


According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray
was born (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Never made any patent other than  his single patent for the therapeutic  device.
I approached his family few years ago.

According to the scan page listed  as :  link https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946
He  build the device powering 20 lightbulbs 150W each.
Then the device was smashed by Feliks Frazer from REA using axe.
and in the same  scan page his son John says about use of sledge hammer.
Claim:
Thomas Henry Moray presented  the device  powered by "unknown"  natural source of energy called by him "radiant energy".
According to Wikipedia          the device used   "cold cathode" vacuum tube- exact wording:
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not heated  vacuum tube.
According to the scan page the device used         cathode ray tube        - exact wording.
Thomas_Henry_Moray never rebuild the device.
scan page says that Felix Frazer was acting on behave of government and/or Russian communists.

Characteristic of the  device (scan page) :
Device was build by Thomas_Henry_Moray in 1906. ( questionable statement* )
but it also says that it took him 20 years to build it. so it  was around 1926.
later on the same  scan page  says that in 1936 he build 55lb device obtaining 50kW in average.
The device used:
specially designed not heated  vacuum tube -ray cathode tube
note: The earliest version of the CRT was known as the "Braun tube", invented by the German physicist Ferdinand Braun in 1897.
The device was powering 20 lightbulbs 150W each.
The device   used an  antenna and solid state  electronic circuitry(1908 !!) ( questionable statement* )
note: if  coil  and resonance circuit is considered  -solid state than It looks like **( look at two asterisk)
The device  was working on land, in air, and under water. ( questionable statement* )
note:  if it   was working on land, in air, and      on water it would be similar to
-my own energy extraction  from Schumann waveguide.**
In video: https://youtu.be/sHTCZu8OZtI?t=228
Rediscovery of Lost Secret of Moray Radiant Energy

Cons: mentioned in video  cold fusion is rejected by science.
"Radiant energy"  here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_energy
 is  likely not the same as "Radiant energy" of Thomas_Henry_Moray
Wesley
« Last Edit: October 25, 2023, 03:57:13 AM by stivep »

rakarskiy

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3091 on: October 25, 2023, 09:05:23 AM »
I was looking for a patent   https://patents.google.com/patent/US2460707A/en     (I was interested in the therapeutic aspect)..

A google search turned up another patent, for atmospheric electricity: https://patents.google.com/patent/US11588421B1/en , perhaps a coincidence, perhaps a direction!

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Thomas Henry Moray (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah. He received application for US patent 2,460,707 in February 1949, after a process of 17 years in discussions with the patent office. The title of the patent is "Electrotherapeutic Device", and although radiotherapy is mentioned, no details are given.
During the 1920s, Thomas Henry Moray worked in the emerging field of radio. After hundreds of experiments designed to improve radio reception, Moray claimed to have discovered a source of energy transmission apparently available everywhere. Using advanced ideas in solid state detectors, he developed a power source which he claimed to produce 50,000 watts of a cold form of electricity[clarification needed]. By the early 1930s, dozens of people had reportedly witnessed demonstrations of this technology[citation needed].
In 1944 Moray was paid $25 a day by the rural electrification administration to perfect his system of drawing electrical energy out of the atmosphere.[1] He claimed his invention produced electricity with no exterior input of energy.
The primary component of the device was a non-heated vacuum tube. At the time most vacuum tubes had heaters built inside. The patent office refused to grant his patent, initially, because they claimed that any vacuum tube without a heater would not work. He was never granted a patent for his power supply device. He did have other inventions and was able to obtain a patent application for one of those, the Electrotherapeutic device.

Sergh

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3092 on: October 25, 2023, 11:21:22 AM »
I was looking for a patent   https://patents.google.com/patent/US2460707A/en     (I was interested in the therapeutic aspect)..

Well, well, exposure to x-rays is harmful to health.
Probably Morray needed to somehow patent his vacuum tubes so as not to declare overunity.
The vacuum by Morray s very relative, it seems that these tubes are mainly gas-discharge, except for those parts that are for emitting X-rays. This Morray "vacuum" is simply reduced pressure. This Moray tubes is something similar to high-power thyratrons or another gas-discharge tubes.
In general, they wrote somewhere about Morray that he spent a very long time looking for some kind of “Luminous Stones”:

https://www.nuenergy.org/t-h-morays-swedish-stone/

 What this is is unclear. It was assumed that this was some kind of quartz that had been subjected to very strong cosmic radiation. Probably a quartz meteorite, perforated by a strong flow of high-energy particles, electrons or others. No more specific information available.Morray also experimented with germanium semiconductors, but I think that at this time it was far from usable devices.

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3093 on: October 25, 2023, 11:25:31 AM »
According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Henry_Moray
was born (August 28, 1892 - May 18, 1974) was an inventor from Salt Lake City, Utah.
Never made any patent other than  his single patent for the therapeutic  device.
I approached his family few years ago.

According to the scan page listed  as :  link https://books.google.com/books?id=d4gFAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1946
Not only about Henry Moray, but also about others who are now unknown.

From page 1925 to page 2023, scans of letters and other materials of Gerald Orlovsky on various topics about free energy, gravity, magnetism for the 1987 - 1988. That is, before the Internet era.
Gerald Orlovsky as inventor:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski

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« Reply #3094 on: October 26, 2023, 11:41:31 AM »
About the Moray device:

- what are these “Luminous Stones”, “Swedish Stones” that he has been looking for a long time?
This is probably a metamict, which, when heated, suddenly self-heats and glows.

http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf

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Jacob Berzelius (Swedish; 20 Aug 1779 – 7 Aug 1848),
isolated several new elements including cerium and thorium.
J Berzelius extensively studied natural minerals including gadolinite and reported about its ‘pyrognomic behaviour’, which upon heating exhibited sudden glowing followed by shattering into pieces.

https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf

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For instance, in 1815 the famous chemist Berzelius2 reported on the pyrognomic behavior of gadolinite, a complex silicate frequently found in the metamict state. The term »metamict« was first used by Brøgger3 in 1893 for a group of amorphous substances existing with two another: hyaline and porodine. Pyrognomic behavior, i.e., a sudden glowing and subsequent shattering of a mineral upon heating, was also observed for some other metamict minerals, for instance, fergusonite.

http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf

This type of stone may contain small amounts of radioactive substances. But, of course, they cannot be used as fuel in nuclear power plants, not so much  radioactive substances.

It is unclear how these stones could be used to create a free energy device.  :-\
Nanotechnology again..
So far I have only one idea: that such material can be used as a cold cathode in a vacuum- or gas-discharge tube. But where in these tubes is the free energy?

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3095 on: October 26, 2023, 09:06:29 PM »
Energy is always in source, it may be Earth magnetic field filled with oscillations from collisions of cosmic dust or maybe just electrons induced in ambient air by rotational and not only movement of Earth. Or maybe we are just missing the truth and magnetic field is energy source for all generators ?

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3096 on: October 27, 2023, 05:25:54 AM »
Some new info what I was making 20 years ago with my radio. Somehow youtube has changed the video for weak resolution :/

Also info on kapanadze coils included.
https://youtu.be/4RxBBFnzcq0

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3097 on: October 28, 2023, 05:06:51 PM »
Gerald Orlovsky as inventor:
https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski
the only useful for us  in that listing  may be:
ENGINE POWERED BY PERMANENT MAGNETIC POWER.
https://patents.google.com/patent/NO910359D0/en?inventor=Gerald+J.+Orlowski
that appears to be empty. No data in the doccument.
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3098 on: October 28, 2023, 07:03:16 PM »
http://www.minsocam.org/ammin/AM42/AM42_91.pdf
https://indico.ictp.it/event/8772/session/8/contribution/74/material/slides/0.pdf
http://fulir.irb.hr/837/1/CCA_81_2008_391_400_tomasic.pdf
This type of stone may contain small amounts of radioactive substances. But, of course, they cannot be used as fuel in nuclear power plants, not so much  radioactive substances.
It is unclear how these stones could be used to create a free energy device.  :-\
Nanotechnology again..
So far I have only one idea: that such material can be used as a cold cathode in a vacuum- or gas-discharge tube. But where in these tubes is the free energy?
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Metamictisation (sometimes called metamictization or metamiction) is a natural process resulting in the gradual and ultimately complete destruction of a mineral's crystal structure, leaving the mineral amorphous. - (not crystalline, or not apparently crystalline)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamictisation
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Metamict minerals are a special class of materials which were initially crystalline but have become amorphous because of accumulated structural damage caused by the radioactive decay of their constituent U and Th nuclides
Damage from α particles and recoil nuclei may cause dramatic changes in physical, chemical, mechanical and structural properties of materials.
https://www.nature.com/articles/293449a0
I was playing with it  during my experiments:
https://youtu.be/WpBpk1Cg7ns
https://youtu.be/izzujmKROWI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdlkeI0bXy4
Successful I was - remarkably well.
by using a quite small piece of beryllium window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium
- neutron bombardment according to :
http://rexresearch.com/colman/colman.htm
-and yes. no other form of "neutron gun"  was used .
https://youtu.be/K1f6EBx9GtY?t=475
sorry my Russian was not yet  as excellent as it is now.
But  we have the same in  English:
https://youtu.be/0xXZT7YQDE8?t=505
Final project
-ready to use device 
instruction is not publicly suitable to be published .
-especially not in this forum. (NRC regulations)
But Colman was right it works.

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reverse process:
In biogeology  opposite to Metamictisation is crystallization that uses no isotopic involvement.
is natural amorphous-to-crystalline phase transformation   : calcifiers
https://www.nature.com/articles/293449a0

Summary:
Ability to store energy from isotopic interaction is typical normal and nothing new.
Chernobyl is the best  example of it.

Wesley
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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3099 on: October 29, 2023, 06:37:25 PM »
If you dissolve a magnet in acid, where does the magnetic field go?  ;)

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Re: Kapanadze and other FE discussion
« Reply #3100 on: October 29, 2023, 09:43:34 PM »
kind of silly question.
when you disorient magnetic domains in  Fe the mutual magnetic field is gone.
so  it does any form of disorientation of magnetic  domains
Magnetite is interesting from chemistry standpoint but I'm not the Chemist.
https://pubs.geoscienceworld.org/ccm/article-abstract/59/2/136/48709/ACIDIC-DISSOLUTION-OF-MAGNETITE-EXPERIMENTAL-STUDY
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« Reply #3101 on: October 30, 2023, 09:18:54 AM »
kind of silly question.

Wasn't it on this forum that some people argued that the magnetic field exists separately from the magnet ? That is, it should remain, like the smile of a Cheshire cat.  :D
It was seems me in topic about virtual rotating fields or permanent magnet motors.

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« Reply #3102 on: October 30, 2023, 09:45:42 AM »
Wasn't it on this forum that some people argued that the magnetic field exists separately from the magnet ? That is, it should remain, like the smile of a Cheshire cat.  :D
It was seems me in topic about virtual rotating fields or permanent magnet motors.

Fe3O4 is a magnetically conductive material, but where have you seen a stable permanent magnet composed purely of this material?

"Today there are many materials used in the manufacture of permanent magnets: Alnico, ferrites (ceramics), samarium-cobalt, neodymium-iron-boron, iron-chromium-cobalt and materials in the form of a mixture of magnetic powder and some binding component."

the magnetic field is the result, not the cause. What causes the magnetic field in a permanent magnet science and you and I do not know exactly.

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« Reply #3103 on: October 30, 2023, 12:56:31 PM »
the magnetic field is the result, not the cause. What causes the magnetic field in a permanent magnet science and you and I do not know exactly.
I think it's the orientation of the magnetic domains. We spent energy on this during magnetization. But we dissolved it, and the domains disappeared altogether. Everything turned into chaos. And the energy spent on magnetization turned into heat.

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« Reply #3104 on: October 31, 2023, 07:28:19 AM »
Is it true ?
It close to theme about an explosion of water drop.
https://texnoved.ru/harovaya-molniya/
« Last Edit: October 31, 2023, 02:23:49 PM by kolbacict »