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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2880 on: September 09, 2019, 06:48:36 PM »
Part#1
I'm little confused:
forks if  they vibrate mechanically than we dealing with F of sound and  longitudinal wave.
If direction of  the longitudinal   wave  energy  having the same vector direction can become sum  of vectors  than  Yes.
the energy of forks  will be concentrated  after all of the losses.

look at part #2
down below

Wesley   
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« Reply #2881 on: September 09, 2019, 08:27:35 PM »
The tuning forks thing is to liken many  exact same Inductance Coils/Capactance Toploads in resonance with an original generator...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2882 on: September 10, 2019, 03:25:06 AM »
Part #2

which then also reminded me to look into ' schauberger repulsine '
https://frankgermano.wordpress.com/viktor-schauberger-the-repulsine/
which instead of having a flat disk, has a disk with a sin-wave ripple in it.

For these who are interested with Viktor Schauberger achievement in area of  energy 
look here:
https://youtu.be/yXPrLGUGZsw?t=2297
Database-
included in video:
1. Kelvin Generator https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin_water_dropper

2. at 40:55 minute   wording"resonance points"  refers  to  mechanical resonance
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Mechanical resonance is the tendency of a mechanical system to respond at greater
amplitude when the frequency of its oscillations matches the system's natural frequency of
vibration (its resonance frequency or resonant frequency) than it does at other frequencies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanical_resonance

2a  .not  included in video  but helpful
Resonance Structures/Assigning Formal Charge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYCzeFEAfjg
conditions for resonance  look here  for 30  seconds only :-
https://youtu.be/fYCzeFEAfjg?t=410 
comment
nitrogen  N in form of gas can be mechanically separated  from air.
2b.  .not  included in video  but helpful
carbon
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Carbon (from Latin: carbo "coal") is a chemical element with
the symbol C and atomic number 6. It is nonmetallic and tetravalent—making four electrons available to form
covalent chemical bonds. It belongs to group 14 of the periodic table.  Three isotopes occur naturally, C and C being stable, while C is a
radionuclide, decaying with a half-life of about 5,730 years.  Carbon is one of the few elements known since antiquity
Carbon is the 15th most abundant element in the Earth's crust, and the fourth most abundant element in the universe by mass after
hydrogen, helium, and oxygen. Carbon's abundance, its unique diversity of organic compounds, and its unusual ability to form polymers
at the temperatures commonly encountered on Earth enables this element to serve as a common element of all known life.
https://www.bing.com/search?q=carbon&pc=MOZI&form=MOZCON


3.Vortex tube
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex_tube
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Vortec, Inc. The vortex tube was used to separate gas mixtures, oxygen and nitrogen, carbon
dioxide and helium, carbon dioxide and air in 1967 by Linderstrom-Lang.
Vortex tubes also seem to work with liquids to some extent, as demonstrated by Hsueh and Swenson i
n a laboratory experiment where free body rotation occurs from the core and a thick boundary layer at the wall.
If we think at reverse we may see droplets of Nitrogen that could be vortexly mixed and centrifuged   
https://www.quora.com/What-happens-if-I-pour-liquid-nitrogen-on-the-floor-or-into-the-toilet

4.  Finally vortex found its application  in:
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Oxygen Separation Using Cryogenic Vortex Tube
This partially condensed air is injected to the vortex chamber, where the liquid phase enriched in oxygen gets thrown
to the periphery and flows out through the peripheral discharge end of the vortex tube.
The vapour phase predominantly enriched in nitrogen flows out through the central discharge opening
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4615-4215-5_104
===================================================================

Summary on  Viktor Schauberger:

The device didn't  work at bench of scientists investigating it as  "Flying Sorcerer"( lifter)
The device didn't  work at bench of scientists investigating it as  FE energy generator
The device can work as  energy converter .
The  efficiency of the device is <1
But it  has potential of  unconventional IN/OUT energy conversion or other commercial applications.

Definition of FE conversion device:

FE is the energy that is free of charge,
And if initial source of energy can handle energy distribution to cover  in  its process:
- energy needed for continuing conversion
- energy  losses  due  to  conversion
- net energy at OUT  of the  device

Than only  if above conditions are   met
the Viktor Schauberger
device  could be our
Free energy ( device) and than  that device  could by compared to regular 
old fashion water wheel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=43fUQLHm1CU
and such is the best prove  of Free Energy concept.

Wesley
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2883 on: September 10, 2019, 12:06:03 PM »
Related Victor Schauberger Wirbel/Vortex/Swirl research :

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-m&q=pax+pacific+impeller&oq=pax+pacific+impeller&aqs=heirloom-srp..
" impeller can mix 4 millions gallons of water using only 150 Watts "
"butterfly"- Chaos-theory : how much energy as Brownian movement this 150 Watt can stimulate in 4 million of gallons( gallon  : ancient portuguese mass : 3,785 Liter) of water


http://egm-international.com/index_co2.htm  Vortex-/Wirbel-Wandler/Converter
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windhexe
Used Substantives /Nomen + deklination( Nom.,Dativ,Genitiv,Akkusativ,Ablativ,Vokativ). and Infinitives/Verbum+ conjugation( 1.Pers., 2.Per.,... Singularis/Pluralis + termination : Praesens,Praeteritum,Perfect,Plusquamperfekt,Futur I ,Futur II):
tornar = to turn = tourner = drehen = winden= vertere  Tornado/Vertex or Vortex
Wind/Vento/Bento and Gesch-Wind-igkeit= velocity /velocidade
velare, velo= round/rotation velociped from um-runden/rotieren/to round rotare  ( per second/minute/hour/....) Rotor
stare=estar( todifferfrom: ser) =stehen= to stand Stator Still-Stand E-/e-/state as social Nation and as statistical Situation/ Moment

The first "Neuzeit-Akademie der Wissenschaften""Physics" father- language has been Latin,

 later German(Reichkanzlei zu Prag/Praha -Hochdeutsch

zu lithografische Institut/Duden-Hochdeutsch"= (hannoverische Welfen-)saechsisch=saxonic
 /French/ Anglosaxonic(= english, no scottish/irish/Walsh = celto-iberic languages)
Who can not read original publication language and only trust to given by 2nds/3rd their hand. and mind translations get probably "dimensional" basic idea reproduction errors  !


Our thinking and as translation tool: spoken and written language is 4 and more dimensional like the assimilated
4 and more dimensional algometric humbots digital mind for the human-free industrial production. !
« Last Edit: September 10, 2019, 06:52:13 PM by lancaIV »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2884 on: September 10, 2019, 10:57:57 PM »
Re: 3. Vortex Tubes
These aren't either Shauberger or Dyson Air Mulitplier....
while interesting, Viktor Schauberger had literally curled tubes... which for certain capacitiies of fluid velocities reduce flow rates... but they require tuning to operate in a certain range...

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2885 on: September 11, 2019, 02:25:54 AM »
moderator:
User  posts  are  deleted
- User <selveti> violated basic  social forms  of interaction  in peaceful  society
- user was given a time  to respond and  he didn't provide requested    supporting   statements
- instead ,- user response as  of 9/13/2019  was a set of  unrelated sidetracks.


quote#1
you are just getting paid from youtube its your job man there is nothing to be a shame to admitt it ....
quote#2
here you have only people who are making money from clicks from youtube like wesley
answer:
My you tube channel  is creative common
There is no  commercial on my videos
All of my  videos can be copied and  placed  on anyone's channel
I don't  get any  income from it.
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Re: Wesley's  Kapanadze wasting your time
you have rights to your opinion
if people think they will learn something from here ...they are wrong
This  is  not opinion this  is  the statement.
I disagree   with  placing everyone  in this forum  including me into wrong beings
I disagree with <nothing to learn> statement
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you are just confusing people here with 1000 infos
This  is  not opinion this  is  the statement.
Again I disagree :
-It is  your  right to do  not  participate in this forum
-It is  your  right to do  not  be confused.
-It is  your  right to read  information of your choice.
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i am from yougoslavia
(exact quote  from post)
This  is  USA not Russia and  not Yugoslavia
and you  should  be educated  enough that Yugoslavia doesn't exist.
There is  no  such country in  the world.
 

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like wesley for example piece of shit lier
This  is  not opinion this  is  the statement.
explanation:

opinion
:
-a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
statement :-a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing.

The difference:

opinion is  our subjective point of view. It is what you believe to be the truth, what you feel is right.
As opposed to a statement of fact. Where you have evidence to support and prove the truth of your statement.


A social interaction is an exchange between two or more individuals and is a building block of society.
there are certain  rules of such interaction
1. If You say something in  form of statement than be  ready to prove  it.
2. If You being ask to  take  position  on the subject matter being negated by your statement than respond to it in  consistent and  timely manner.
3. If you are questioning level of my scientific or technical contribution to the public  than stand to your
    opposing statements with knowledge, facts and skills suitable and  ready to serve as correction  to that what you call  lies and confusion  created  by  me.

And  now few  words  to  you the public:
1.  I have no need  to be here, spend  my  time  and my money  other than pleasure  from such activity  if there is any.
2.  My   two labs  cost a  lot and  in 2009  '"I had not single  multi meter and no labs.
3.  To better serve community I  invested in professional film and camera  equipment and studio.  that  also cost a  lot.
3a. Before  9/11  I had my office in WTC1 at 77 floor . I was a president of scientific entity  working with  various  programs of DoD, NASA, DARPA,  and so on.
     I was just minutes late and I would die along  with these  who have been hanging from the windows and drooping  down  to their own Death
     but I was lucky.  I  saw these people hanging and dying.   
4.  That changed  me for the  rest of  my  life. and  now after so many years  someone who says that  he is 
     from  non existing  Yugoslavia   calls me exact  quote with   error   in grammar :
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piece of shit lier
4a. During my trip to Tariel  Kapanadze some Russians where trying to end  my existence on  the surface of this planet
     -That changed  me even more.
4b. Next step was  to  send Venezuelans but they  didn't try  to kill me,    no  no...only to make  me silent.   
4c. In January  of  this year I was for the first time  in my life in hospital - someone sprayed virus  on me and run away as fast as he could.
     And yes he was fast....

   I live in world of facts and factors.
   In January you said you are from Yugoslavia and that is quite  few countries now.
    so you originate  from former Yugoslavia or former Soviet Union  or former Soviet Union region of influence. ??? ??
   And that would give us several countries you could be from  including Russia.
   And you.....  yes you might not be a troll....
    so  who   is creating confusion here?
   

Should I call you lair?
   Your  world  of illusions  can become reality  only if  you contribute  enough   to prove  me wrong.
   So I'm waiting what in science of facts  presented  by me  is wrong  - provide explanation and links  please.

5.Till today I didn't make one single  penny on any of my  social activities.


Summary :
1. Please  provide evidence  and/or support  to your statements in both science and technical fields (  you  may use  help from  troll factory )
     https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/16/world/europe/prigozhin-russia-indictment-mueller.html
     Take whole army of  them let's see  how good they are.
     They can push and pay  whole  Russian academy  of science - the  bunch of old guys  and none of them speak  English  I  assume.
     They will be glad to help  you .I'm sure.
     Just let  them  know about it.
     And that may make  me  to push Dr Hans to give me OK to  initiate  end of  this institution and everything  that is supporting it.


2. Please understand  that you are here  only because    I wanted you to  have room to express yourself.
3.  You violated basic  social forms  of interaction  in peaceful  society
4. If you don't provide requested  contribution  supporting  your statements   I will delete  your posts  and you may be subject of removal from forum.
5. Only  technical and scientific discussion is allowed because  I want it this way.

Wesley
 



 
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2886 on: September 11, 2019, 07:45:23 AM »
(although as I was considering it; certainly Vortex Tubes shouldn't be ignored)


So... they say dolphins and other fish will make vortex rings to eat... It didn't really click how that would work until I saw this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqATMuyAhPo 'How To Build A Fire With A Plunger' is a terrible name for the video.
8:27 Intro to clip of fish doing so
11:31 goldfish crackers get caugnt, and swept along ring

Which... I'd suppose if there was small things like plankton they would get caught up also, and (perhaps) the vortex is slurped up like a straw full of micro food stuff

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Vortex Rings... I saw a coanda quad copter today also; wasn't very good... I think there's something missing, either fins to divert the airflow circularly, or a lip, or ripple to cause rings to happen... but then I guess rings are self-stable and don't influence the outer flows very much

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2887 on: September 11, 2019, 10:18:26 AM »
its very simple to understand 1 thing wesley ,,,,
if you get angry about what i said for you this means its true ...
you are just getting paid from youtube its your job man there is nothing to be a shame to admitt it ....
and you dont have to be angry with me cause i never said anything that i am so smart or better than you ...
 and i am not angry at all i am very queit and ver sure for what i say. ...
and if i have anything to prove or demonstrate i will never demonstrate it here and everyone would do the same ....
and if you think that  i havent read anything about free energy resonance system you are wrong!!! 
all i can say to you soon with gods permission  i will upload to you a video just to show you that i am not the one you think .......
cause i enjoy playing with electric and doing research ....
this is what we do in my country ex yougoslavia!  :)
good luck  and next time be nice don`t expose you ignorance! 8)


Stop littering the forum. I see that you have no knowledge of how to make money and how much of youtube ads. This can be easily checked so you don't fool yourself. Maybe you wanted it well but it didn't work out well. Just write technical things as Wesley says if you have something to say. You are wasting the time of others.
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2888 on: September 11, 2019, 03:39:14 PM »
Wesley
I suppose the confused Man does not realize you don't allow advertising on your Utube...so not a penny in revenue.
I am Glad you are here today Wesley ...this time on this date... was a very bad and sad Day in NYC.
very glad you are here !!
much gratitude
Chet K



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« Reply #2889 on: September 11, 2019, 09:20:03 PM »
today is  9/11


3a. Before  9/11  I had my office in WTC1 at 77 floor . I was a president of scientific entity  working with  various  programs of DoD, NASA, DARPA,  and so on.
     I was just minutes late and I would die along  with these  who have been hanging from the windows and drooping  down  to their own Death
     but I was lucky.  I  saw these people hanging and dying.   
4.  That changed  me for the  rest of  my  life.


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« Reply #2890 on: September 12, 2019, 12:51:55 AM »
Vortex rings ~ Ampere-turns circum-venting/swirling the coil ( out-side / in-side) :
                                               peripetal and/or centrifugal movement

                                    Up to 990 KW output/ ? weight
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=WO&NR=8808220A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=19881020&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP#
                                    Up to 1 MW/ 27,2 Kg ( 60  lbs )
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.wonksmedia.com/dec.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiE7q_35MnkAhUpA2MBHWH2BGkQFjACegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw1bVcXEBtDsFIpTC0QlPVz2

                       
                   per KW installation : 10 Euros/KW private endconsumer/industrial consumer price  ?

                       1 MW x 10 Euros = 10000 Euros / device weight : 27,2 Kg =  367 Euros/Kg


 Imris generator production costs calculation( permalloy, copper, capacitor,...)  32 Euros/ Kg (2012 list prices)


By material value 10 Euros/KW( included well margin )  generator will become real  and an alternative to                                             
                                            1500 Euros/KW solar/Wind/Biogas "farming".



For me only known higher power-to-weight ratio devices :
         
                                   https://patents.google.com/patent/US8847720B2/en

And
                   https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=45&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19931012&CC=US&NR=5252176A&KC=A#
                                                                                       +

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.sciencealert.com/world-s-oldest-nobel-prize-winner-says-his-new-device-will-give-clean-cheap-energy&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwif2Ye47cnkAhWlx4UKHbgWBRAQFjAAegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw3MFcU2G_SFVRKzLOQLzNeo

or instead

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=7&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19870527&CC=DE&NR=3540683A1&KC=A1#

                                                                                       +

                                   10@7 W per sqm=  10 MW/sqm = 1 KW/sq-cm conversion possibility

                  https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19941018&CC=US&NR=5356484A&KC=A#

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« Reply #2891 on: September 12, 2019, 02:20:35 PM »
To compare the Zielinski/Sines generator fair :
the Harold Goldbaum with Zielinski apparent power-to-weight ratio :
Zielinski ( 4500 Ampere x 220 Volt/50 Hz) / weight
Sines 1 MW : ? Hz/27,2 Kg
Goldbaum : if with 400 Hz 60 KW per hour then with 50 Hz = 7,5 KW per hour dividing  with weight 705 ccm x 7,5 g
= 7,5 KW/5,3 Kg power-to weight ratio
Resume :

Goldbaum generator by weight and same output frequency more than 25x times heavier than Sines/ Zielinski generator

Technology for superconductive devices becomes cheaper :
https://patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=13984 by Anatoly Rokhvarger and Lubov Chigirinsky and M.Topchiashvili ( 2000,2004)

91° Kelvin :  ::) hmm,  mit der Schukeyschen Delta-Omega Maschine, kaskadiert : =  - 180 ° Celsius

Kelvin Zeropoint to Celsius Zeropoint  ?
https://pt.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Schukey
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thermodyna.com%2Fjuergen-schukey.html

+
Ed Sines US Navy work :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20010710&CC=US&NR=6259347B1&KC=B1#

Based by their priority dates : Schukey, Sines/US Navy and the HTS coil : global open source ( excl. US 2004 application https://patents.google.com/patent/US7632784 )
civil and military carrier technology for land,sea and air

High power electric beam tool/weapon :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=68&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19891018&CC=DD&NR=272727A1&KC=A1#
High energy focus-point delivery : Mega- up to Gigawatt

Un-/friendly application possibility :
Fast cutting house walls, granit cavity engraver( for new water delivering channel f.e.),closed Tresor opener,
military tanks and jets internal heat increaser ( soldiers" cross" like fried chicken) ,
bridges/dams and tunnels e-cutter , 
nuclear solid/liquid waste incineration,minerals smelter et cetera pipapo


Ready for the future eWar without frontier  !  This, WE ARE : from cold war era to eWargames competition  !
Telemetrical : by joy-stick  ;D for Collateralwins
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2892 on: September 16, 2019, 03:25:46 AM »
I'm thankful   to lancaIV for  links  posted.
I  didn't have time to comment on it.

I'm in need   make some  memos from the article  :
https://www.ieee.ca/millennium/radio/radio_differences.html



memo#1
May 1901; excepting that a suitable HF alternator, generating frequencies above about 10 kHz was not available until 1906.
There is no fundamental reason that long distance wireless communications could not have begun at VLF,


memo#2
On 12 December 1901 signals from a high power spark transmitter located at Poldhu
were reported to have been received by Marconi and his assistant George Kemp,
at a receiving station on Signal Hill, near St. John's, Newfoundland. The signals had traveled a distance of 3500 kilometres.

memo#3
The first East-West transatlantic radio transmission was made during October 1902 from Poldhu,
Cornwall to the Italian cruiser Carlos Alberto anchored in the harbour of Sydney, NS with Marconi aboard.
The frequency employed was about 272 kHz.

memo#4
The first two-way transatlantic radio telegraphy transmission took place on 10 January 1906,
between Fessenden's stations at Brant Rock, MA and Machrihanish Scotland.
Repeatedly regular exchange of messages across the Atlantic Ocean took place on most days during winter, spring and into early summer.
The frequencies used were in the 80-100 kHz band.


memo#5
Recall that Fleming, in the first edition of his book on Electromagnetic Waves published in 1906,
stated that an abrupt impulse was a necessary condition for wireless transmission, and that high frequency currents,
even of sufficient frequency could not produce radiation.

The highest frequency of HF alternators prior to the summer of 1906 was about 10 kHz.
This belief, and an earlier belief that the terminals of an antenna had to be bridged by a spark, show how wrong some of the early "experts" were.

I'm looking for reference point Chet.
The power  I  told  you  about was not total power used by  transmitter but real  power  radiated   by  Tesla Coil.
So  when we are talking about  power distribution we  should refer to  total  power  consumed by  the device  minus (-) losses =  power transmitted.
Text  is easily taking you into  wrong thinking pattern  by mentioned  aerial  antenna structure  in many of Marconi   devices of that historical period.
The correction:
- At American  land coast was the Rx and in England was  Tx.
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1. The key point is that receiver used balloon  with the  piece of wire extending from the Rx  coil .( the reverse action  Tesla coil)
2. The history is incorrect as  to the point of how high was the balloon 
elevated  . ( the  sphere I mentioned to you)
3.

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According to Marconi, he was an amateur in radio: in fact this was far from the truth.
He foresaw the business side of wireless telegraphy. He was aware, however, of his own limitations as a scientist and engineer,
and so he enlisted (in 1900) the help of university professor John Ambrose Fleming, as scientific advisor to the Marconi Company;

He was as  uneducated as Tariel( specialist in architecture) was in 1991.



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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2893 on: September 16, 2019, 05:13:08 AM »
summary:
The  real  power used by  Tx  was  quite small and insufficient to
provide coast to coast communication.
However total power used to power Tx  was huge.
Spark gap created    spectrum  of   frequencies having  one dominating center  of  the lob
where  the amplitude was  at  its  highest.
So when receiver or transmitter  shifted from  desired  target frequency  than adjacent frequency was immediately available to be used due to existing wide  spark gap spectrum.
The  bandwidth   of  Rx and Tx circuitry was  so wide, so Rx  and Tx  was always  tuned for communication. 
look here :
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=939

By comparison Tariel Kapanadze used  at  his first devices Tesla Coil and spark gap.
So  the spectrum of frequencies created exactly the same lob  with ready to  use   frequencies.
but now     our Tx  is made by nature.
There   are many  different  ways of activation:
https://youtu.be/XOTLfnMOSqQ?t=990
Due to Tesla coil characteristic  when you  have Top Capacitor on the  top of Tesla coil  RF signal is only present in near  field and than is vanishing.
by rules of Brewster Angle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster%27s_angle

So we may think that Marconi used big masts and aerial  antennas in Tx .
however in Rx he used   balloon  with straight piece of wire.
And  that receiver is our key point
The receiver could only receive surface  wave  as it was sensitive only to that what could exist in near field of Rx
However it was  thought   previously that    it was not Zenneck wave  (nobody knows about it yet) but  EM bouncing from   ionosphere.


As I  told you before  both  the receiver and transmitter must be alike  but acts  in reverse.
Tx  is transmitting  to   primary  coil and induces   voltage in HV secondary winding. 
Rx is receiving signal  using HV coil and   is   inducing it into Low voltage  coil.

Note:
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both  the receiver and transmitter must be alike  but acts  in reverse.
that means  Rx and Tx don't have to look  alike but  they must act electrically  as if they were  the  same.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2894 on: September 16, 2019, 05:52:38 AM »
summary #2;
Chet I  don't  object that at later  Marconi used  indirect wave path  using ionosphere and rules  of  propagation of electromagnetic  wave.
but  he was  using  than,  much much higher  frequencies.
however  science of waves  is  saying us,-  what  is  the range of frequencies that can be reflected from ionosphere;
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This means that a radio signal on 20 MHz for example will be stronger than one on 10 MHz if propagation can be supported at both frequencies
https://www.electronics-notes.com/articles/antennas-propagation/ionospheric/hf-propagation-basics.php
and  now look at  Marconi  transmitter  working  only  at its lowest 10kHz.

There  is no way  Chet  that this LUF
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Lowest Usable Frequency, LUF:   
The LUF is the lowest frequency at which the received field intensity
is sufficient to provide the required signal-to-noise ratio at a specific time of day. 
could  be reflected from  ionosphere.
So  how Marconi did it?
Now you know how.
And  that is why   he went to Bolinas California

I only speculate on the  fact that Marconi  was  not any professional at all.
Rules  for antennas have not yet been known.
At that time  Marconi had  no idea what  is impedance
Everything  was for Marconi   a  personal  luck of child  playing  with wires and  looking  what Tesla is doing.

several years later  Marconi moved to Bolinas California
http://ericpdollard.com/free-videos/history-of-the-marconi-rca-station-bolinas-ca/

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He  still  didn't understand  what  is going  on.
but he knew   how  to  make it work.

and he got busted by  RCA the  arm of  American government.
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Built in 1919 by Marconi, it was taken over in 1920 by the Radio Corporation of America (RCA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marconi_wireless_stations


and now take
Tariel Kapanadze and place him into phrase from above:
He  still  didn't understand  what  is going  on.
but he knew   how  to  make it work.



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