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onepower

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #270 on: August 01, 2018, 10:32:42 PM »
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Well the signal comes from only 1 half of the 494 not both so if it's running from 12kh to 18khz the 4017 would only output
divide by 2 (input) and divide by 6 to 9  and then there is the 4013 divide by 2 again. some where around 1khz ?
But then whats the point of that ? but what it could do with a cap and resistor or two is test the PUSH PULL is running,
but I could think of an easier way to do that, but there again it's output goes no where! Oh and the logic is driven at 5Volts
But the TL494 could be run from 12 Volts or 24Volts, fun ain'it ?

I think you nailed it and after reading page after page of this nonsense, Ad nauseam I want to pull out my hair. It would seem common sense has left the building.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #271 on: August 01, 2018, 11:34:28 PM »
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That's most likely because its powered from the grid on a 'hot Wire' straight into the device!

Or a secondary coil such as a Tesla coil connected to ground can produce a net charge on it's surface while a secondary coil such as a Tesla coil not connected to ground can only produce a charge separation along it's length and not a net charge. This thing you cannot seem to wrap your mind around can be found in any high school textbook.



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AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #272 on: August 02, 2018, 01:37:54 PM »
Maybe you can wrap your mind around and demonstrate how a TC can produce a continuous net charge without a power supply to drive it, whilst its 'top-load' is coupled to a grenade coil powering a heavy lamp load, also not being powered from a conventional power supply.
Hoppy I myself can do use and train my mind to do many things, and all my cats do many useful things
but I am have not as yet had occasion to see him (my top cat) do as you request  8) 8)!

I think you are asking for the meal to already made, but all the items for the meal are in this thread, Its just a question
of assembling the the individual items and then you can eat the meal. As you will already know many have found the meal already eaten.
As you might have guessed many of us are just back room boys and don't want to appear on stage eating our lunch!

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #273 on: August 02, 2018, 06:06:57 PM »
So that's tantamount to saying the 'proof is in the pudding' in the modern sense of the phrase. I call your bluff on that one  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Find your glasses and gloss over page 37 and READ IT !

TK and Hoppy  ;D ;D ;D
Our planet in electrical terms is a kind of spherical capacitor, charged to about 300,000 volts. The inner sphere - the surface of the Earth - is charged negatively, the outer sphere - the ionosphere - is positive. The Earth's atmosphere serves as an insulator.

Find a way to collect it !


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #274 on: August 02, 2018, 08:43:28 PM »

onepower

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #275 on: August 03, 2018, 02:05:53 AM »
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Our planet in electrical terms is a kind of spherical capacitor, charged to about 300,000 volts. The inner sphere - the surface of the Earth - is charged negatively, the outer sphere - the ionosphere - is positive. The Earth's atmosphere serves as an insulator.

I believe it was Richard Feynman who said radiation and evaporation are the primary transport mechanisms which continually drive free electrons from the Earth to the atmosphere. What we see as lightning is the Earth capacitor trying to discharge and balance itself. We are in fact stuck between two area's of extreme potential looking for a path to find equilibrium.

You have to think about it for a moment, imagine you are stuck between two very large capacitor plates which are already charged. You did not create this energy nor does it appear from nothing... it is already present as explained above. Now all you have to do is find a way discharge some of the potential already present to produce an electric current. What kind of circuit could you place in between two charged capacitor plates which could discharge some of the potential?.

I will let you in on a little secret... if you can build a circuit which can discharge some of the potential between two charged capacitor plates at a distance in your lab or garage then you can do it anywhere. The secret is called science and if the premise is sound the premise must apply in every instance.

Strange isn't it?, who would have thought that using scientific principals, experiments and a little common sense could offer a little insight into the problem at hand. It's a pretty simple proposition... either your circuit works or it does not.





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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #276 on: August 03, 2018, 07:40:18 AM »
"Now all you have to do is find a way discharge some of the potential already present to produce an electric current."[/size] I AGREE  ;D
Did you watch the video from my previous post ?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #277 on: August 03, 2018, 09:01:12 AM »

d. 
it was noticed that  using  earth as  e return wire ( means of connection) saves battery life  anywhere from 50% to  hundreds of %

Wesley
In comparison to which other tested circuit configuration?
I recall in my young days as a UK BR railway telecomms tech that dry batteries powering trackside 2- wire (very long line) code ringing telephones would still adequately function even when their batteries were swollen and leaking electrolyte. In this case it was nothing to do with earth return / telluric currents. Some of these batteries were known to have powered their phones for many years without replacement.

AlienGrey

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #278 on: August 03, 2018, 04:47:56 PM »

IMO, for people who want to have a chance at moving forward with understanding,
you must be able to prove/disprove your ideas/assumptions with actual physical tests and experiments.
This is a basic tenet of the physical sciences for a very good reason.
That was all I was saying Wesley. I don't think it is unreasonable at all, given all the unsubstantiated
and wild claims people frequently made in these forums. :)
Void
What you are asking ! You will be very lucky for some one to come out of the closet over
with out putting there existence in a life or death situation !
As you say loads of stuff on the net is total BS, I would suggest you abandon your 'have and to hold'
demands and relax and dig deeper into what is real.

A real Tesla device observe and learn, and don't dismiss this link as irreverent !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_3933099103&feature=iv&index=2&list=PLFsZmHTZL-zmfXxstlxuJgRE9bOGobEVu&src_vid=vemF7p0cbHU&v=0SaEPW_iMF8

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #280 on: August 03, 2018, 09:57:44 PM »
sorry to chime in in this "Tk and ruslan did not used a second ground"
thats verry true in meaning they hat only one  line to earthground ...  the second can just what you would call a virtual ground..even if its not the whole storry about it. just take pice of iron and use it as the second gnd.

how ever tesla  as well as alexanderson made a graet deal about virtual grounding .. in terms of mass and material.

wesleys steps bevore are ment more ore less as basic setup to get a understanding how and why . at least thats how i look at it .
beside that i was abled to proof some his points .

have fun JoJo

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #281 on: August 04, 2018, 02:07:01 AM »
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IMO, for people who want to have a chance at moving forward with understanding,
you must be able to prove/disprove your ideas/assumptions with actual physical tests and experiments.
This is a basic tenet of the physical sciences for a very good reason.

Proof
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #282 on: August 04, 2018, 06:27:04 PM »
sorry to chime in in this "Tk and ruslan did not used a second ground"
thats verry true in meaning they hat only one  line to earthground ...  the second can just what you would call a virtual ground..even if its not the whole storry about it. just take pice of iron and use it as the second gnd.

how ever tesla  as well as alexanderson made a graet deal about virtual grounding .. in terms of mass and material.

wesleys steps bevore are ment more ore less as basic setup to get a understanding how and why . at least thats how i look at it .
beside that i was abled to proof some his points .

have fun JoJo
I do not see Kapanadze or Ruslan using a virtual ground in terms of a mass of material. Nothing we see in their videos support the use of any more than a single physical earth ground point.

Which of Wesley's points have you been able to prove?

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #283 on: August 04, 2018, 07:27:12 PM »
I do not see Kapanadze or Ruslan using a virtual ground in terms of a mass of material. Nothing we see in their videos support the use of any more than a single physical earth ground point.



Hoppy,....did we finaly end the GROUND wire chapter?. ;D
I am very glad we ended this GROUND connection chapter.

So what chapter is next?


Greetings

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #284 on: August 04, 2018, 07:50:23 PM »
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- Hidden batterie
- Coil mode of operation
- Electrostatic mode of operation
- etc..