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Offline mkjekyll

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2535 on: April 09, 2019, 05:15:41 PM »
lanca,
I am sorry, due to your brevity of text some of you concepts go over my head so I am not sure of your question.

Wesley,
The concept of free energy destroying the earth is a conumdrum.  Personally I can run my place of alternative energy or pay the utility bill, it does not matter much one way or the other so my position is already independant of others hence the following opinions are objective in this sense.  Where I live are vast forests, people burn wood to keep warm in winter and some to cook food.  The forests are still here because we replant them.  However in Haiti the forests are gone due to lazyness for cooking, I assume it's warm enough they dont use for heat.  In fact there is a demarcation line between Haiti and Dominica one can see from satellite the trees still on one side.
People like to accuse the USA of mass pollution and ruining of the environment but we use energy and encourage others in some of the cleanest ways on the planet conpared to the rest.  Look at the results of pullution on rivers of Poland vs USA 1960s.  We used to be cruel to animals and we are improving on this and being cognizant of the enviromental damage we cause in many ways in which we were not in the 1950's.  In the USA many people are choosing not to procreate or have only one child.  If everyone stops breeding in 20-40 years all life can end also, or simply by being given sterilizing vaccines. 

So who will use the technology to grow their own food.  People willl still need to work even if energy is free as they will require money to buy cars and computers etc.  There will be a large contigent of people who are slackers, the type who rather take a government check for minimal life than make something of themselves but this is a minority of the population.  Once people see what the other guy has they usually want to buy houses if they are not drugged to oblivion or supressed by the man.  This supresion concept has been promulgated by the powers that be for the last hundred years.  Such as in Ireland where they could not get government assitance with one child only two or more, and not if they owned over 1/4 acre.  So people were encouraged to breed and take free money and live in project housing rather than own farms to create a masssive non land owning workforce.  In the USA this concept of keeping people down is a big one and used by large corporations so they do not have to pay extra wages as if they pay under a certain amount the people get government food cards.
So this is not just about people and laziness it is the consideration if we as a race deserve to move forward as the consequence of mans acsent over stupidity.  Are we as the human race capable of self governing our actions, this is the big question and likely one of the reasons we are not allowed into space yet.  I have seen people degrade since the invention of social media to something very sad indeed.  Being stuck on what seems to be a planet of morons I am sure gets to some of us here.  But also this invention allows us to choose to talk and invent here rather than watch insipid media medication presentation.   The work force will soon be android so there will be the people who design build program and repair them and the rest, this will be the point at which the depopulation measures are put into effect as the food cards will no longer be necessary.  At the point in which orgasnisms overcrowd nature has a way of self limiting this problem and so does man.
We can only throw it out there and see the results as available earth energy will allow more time for education and the ability of the race to move forward unshackled by the man. We will either move into space together or wipe out one another depending on what media tells people to do. Unfortunatelly most on the planet are followers not leaders and have been born bred and programmed as such ie followers of Engels Marx bullshit. While Vene's eat from dumpsters and the daughter of the revolution is among the top wealthiest women on the planet manay Vene's still think their government is right and thier predicament is the fault of US.
So do we look on the potential as productive insightful Americans would or as decades supressed socialist- communist people would, two lifestyles two ways of thinking and two results.  Short of showing how to build weapons, I am all for the release as it can only concentrate power to the individual rather than the monolythic establishment rulers.  What we do as a race is up to us rather than Chevron and Visiv, I see this as a distinct advantage. In the end the question is should the human race be given consideration of being good enough to advace itself unilaterally without a chain to the yoke of the ones who have put themselves in charge, or is the human race something incapable of self evolution and destined to be controlled by the latest robber barons of society.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2536 on: April 09, 2019, 05:17:19 PM »
Wesley,  b2b gas-to-power prices are in Russia in the 5 US$cents/KWh  range ,

to compare U. S. A.  b2b
https://www.rockymountainpower.net/about/rar/ipc.html
 and b2c  https://www.electricchoice.com/electricity-prices-by-state/

 a distribution by accumulated losts number ( your estimations) -25% would mean 5/0,75

over 6,5 US$cents/KWh without estate- internal distribution costs and taxes !

Let us compare b2b industrial electricity costs f.e. Texas  ;) : 5,13 $ cents/ KWh


Getting from Russia or the arabic peninsula ( Arabia Saudita, the Emirates et cet. gas-to-power ) for

4$cents/0,75~ 5,3 US$cents   and     

3$ cents/0,75 ~4$cents per KWh electricity untransformed !
Local b2b electricity price. ? List price or V. I. P. - contract. ?

And without b2c margin calculation !

The Viziv system is not a great challenge and energetic market- price leader !
The potential from such a system is the delivering from " negative price energy" ( surplus electricity where the producer has to pay for net- load)  to " high positive price energy"- places.

For " negative price energy" transformation losts are not so important.
But this is not a great market.

A market : off- shore- windparcs and solar-farming projects like "Desertec"
                   or not from planes used/needed air regions :
https://inhabitat.com/can-cloud-power-provide-clean-water-and-electricity-for-the-world/                      their energetic  output distribution
The Evolution will be : private households with industrial electricity price level :  5 Cents/KWh max,  global

BTW: b2b  prices in E.U.-Europe ( Norway is associated,  not member)
 https://www.statista.com/statistics/267068/industrial-electricity-prices-in-europe/

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« Reply #2537 on: April 09, 2019, 06:56:05 PM »
Does the Sheikh Arabic have the right to say that this is his oil? the same in the USA, Russia, ...!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2538 on: April 09, 2019, 07:02:52 PM »
Dear mkjekyll
You left me speechless for the moment or so.
Good  work.
Very well formulated.
So I respond to few of your quotes:

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Personally I can run my place of alternative energy or pay the utility bill // so my position is already independent of others
1. In Free country of wealth,such as USA. nobody cares who you are, what you do, and do you exist or not if you don't  manifest     
yourself  your position and your presence. Everyone is busy with his /her/its own life and  they have Netflix to see other people behavioral
pattern. So nobody  is interested with your opinion or mine. We exist only here or at home for just someone.

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//If everyone stops breeding in 20-40 years all life can end also//
2.I have no control  who and how contributes to Apocalypse. The less people is on the planet earth  the better  it is for the planet.


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So people were encouraged to breed and take free money and live in project housing rather than own farms
 
3.People-Humanity in their own nature have  genetically coded need for wealth of goods with no work involved.
   That is part of evolution ( Darvin pointed at resting lion,- other animals may not be afraid he is not hungry now)
   So deficit is primary and the only  tool for progress of humanity.
   I see myself having plenty of patent applications every day or so - the easy money,
   but thinking about patenting it, waiting for patent paying  humongous money    to patent professionals or learning  how to       
   make patent yourself, than dealing with production contracts... I DO NOT NEED THAT> I'm life minimalist.
   I need my wife and my lab  and not much more than that.


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have seen people degrade since the invention of social media to something very sad indeed
4. Degeneration equals norm established  before "generation".
   It is normal state of dependency.
   Who cares what you depend of, drugs, alcohol, social alienation,..
   Who cares if your dependence is  defined as"influenced by" or "to relayed on."
   For native Patagonians  you  definitely are degenerated my dear friend.
   But when you deliver instead of being dependent than they  will be blind to your deficiencies. 
   The same behavior is noticed in any  crowd : e.g
-when famous or  wealthy and known  Paris Hilton  dress like street prostitute - this makes a birth to new direction in  fashion     industry.
-but when  the same is  done by real girl  from "good home" she will be scrutinized by everyone including her own parents.
    So I'm not surprised that  most of used scientific  equipment  can't be sold in USA for its original value due to over-saturation of it.
    The wealth of  nation made many of them  having easy life of resting lion/no need to hunt.. now..
You can call it degradation if you will, I call it natural effect of spoiled country.
     They think that - it will always be a  scientist  or engineer  who is going to learn, understand and know something they need.
     And government money will pay for their laziness in government paid shelter houses for their own freedom to demand more.

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What we do as a race is up to us rather than Chevron and Viziv,
4. No my friend we as  a  part of humanity will do nothing  till we see that is easy enough to push others to do it...for us.
      Since you talk about us as a "race.." it is human kind, to be  exact, the nature will push us to extinction like it happened to dinosaurs.
      The only difference is how soon we damage the natural environment around us till nature starts to protest.
 
      Wesley
 
 
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« Reply #2539 on: April 09, 2019, 07:49:34 PM »
Does the Sheikh Arabic have the right to say that this is his oil? the same in the USA, Russia, ...!
A Sheik(h) or Sharif/Scheriff is the moral and social leader from a tribe,  when the tribe members gives him the social power he can administrate the tribe richdome.
Similar : the Aga Khan,  Sheik(h)  from the Ismaelites/n,  without terretorial souveranity.
https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ismaeliten


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« Reply #2540 on: April 09, 2019, 08:03:58 PM »
Does the Sheikh Arabic have the right to say that this is his oil? the same in the USA, Russia, ...!

A Sheik(h) or Sharif/Scheriff is the moral and social leader from a tribe,  when the tribe members gives him the social power he can administrate the tribe richdome.
Similar : the Aga Khan,  Sheik(h)  from the Ismaelten,  without territorial sovereignty.
Human structure historically was based on  other mammals behavior.
Horde of wolves  is an example. 
The ruler is a dictator.
Humans did not go far from this
USA is seen as the strongest till it  is proven otherwise.
But what sheik says to his small sub-horde is less important  than what what Sheik says  to USA.
The truth is not ultimate but always subjective. The point of reference make it universally  accepted.
Science is  in much better situation. the very  last and   the very insignificant is for science opinion of government  .
It is going to resurface itself  anyhow.

Take  history of Surface Wave as example:
Tesla  was scrutinized by JP Morgan in 1897  with Wardenclyffe Tower,
Marconi was scrutinized by USA Government - the  use of RCA  in 1922 Bolinas California
Viziv can be scrutinized by Dep of Energy or even worse by Dep of Interior, but it is not so ,as of yet.


However there is one troubling thing to us now.
Many of us do not believe that 9/11 was truly explained and do not believe  to official truth.
We may face Viziv  to become dictator of the world starting from year ~2024.
or
We may be  told that Viziv was a scam...or it is military  classified now...
Everything depends from  whose money is to be made or  lost.
But many of you don't want to  wait another 50 years..


Wesley
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« Reply #2541 on: April 09, 2019, 08:28:12 PM »
" the ruler is a dictator "  :P banal : rules ARE: per se DICTATION

Each grand-/father and each grand-/ mother dictates(-d) our younger life live, positive and negative.
We would have had invested our life with other interests as theirs  ::) ( s..  and d....  and a....)  8)
But I do not know : a system like the hellenestic Sparta,  education and disciplin away from the parents.

"... you are in the army now . Wuwuwu in the armyyyyyyyy- now"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_I_Won_the_War  or How I won the Dictation
       Jingo,  bell mal und gib Pfötchen !  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingoism
       Bist ja ganz ein lieber, pflegeleicht ! Anglo- und saechsisch : Jingo bell, Jingo bell , Jingo all the way

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« Reply #2542 on: April 09, 2019, 09:05:53 PM »
" the ruler is a dictator "  :P banal : rules ARE: per se DICTATION
Each grandfather and each grandmother dictates our younger life live, positive and negative.

Dear lancaIV : I think we have problem with communication due to your interpretation of words:

Word: rule (NOUN)
meaning: 
1. set of explicit or understood regulations or principles governing conduct within a particular activity or sphere.
2. synonyms: regulation · ruling · directive · order · court order · act · law · bylaw
3. control of or dominion over an area or people.
4. the normal or customary state of things.
procedure · practice · protocol · convention · standard · norm · form
5. system · standard · units · scale

Word:ruler (NOUN)
meaning :a person exercising government or dominion.
synonyms:leader · sovereign · monarch · potentate · crowned head ·

word: dictator(NOUN)
a ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained control by force.synonyms:autocrat · monocrat ·
absolute ruler · tyrant · despot · oppressor · absolutist · totalitarian · authoritarian · supremo · Big Brother · autarcha
person who behaves in an autocratic way.synonyms:autocrat · despot · dictator · tyrant · absolutist · disciplinarian · martinet

Conclusion : There is no rules without ( past/present/future) ruler
By that your mother and father is always your dictator till he/she losses her control over you.
Dictation is just manifestation of  domination ( teacher vs student)
They dictate whatever is convenient to them ( stay quiet just because we want it this way)
My dear friend  when you use English Language we assume English form of understanding of phenomena  around us.

Wesley

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« Reply #2543 on: April 09, 2019, 09:32:31 PM »
And there is no ruler without rules.

A "Dictator" is a democratic title for an Estate leader in emergency cases.
But a constitutional "Dictator" never has to become Despot or Tyrann :                     

        the own Constitution mandates their  liquidation.

The german FRG constitution gives each constitutionalist the freedom to decide about the life or death from   
        anti-democratic political revolte-leader ! "FUEHRER"-experience consequence,  you know. !   

                    Never more ! The Licence to eliminate Idiots. !        Notstands/Emergency- act paragraph

                                      Written and in law,  today and in future. !

Wesley,  by all these examples I am feeling me " at home", if you would have learned the "Latin"- language I mean you too  ! The expressions are neither Anglo- nore saxonic : but based by applied romanic language.

And supremo/-a is here in the country the same as in the U. S. A. democratic used ( form from supera) :                                                           
                                                                     Supreme Court

One of my grandfathers was judge and reached the membership  from this " democratic" Court- Senat in PT.His second wife was atheistic,this in an official quasi 99% catholic country, her father judaic decent and wealth- rich communist( he had been for some time prisonized because his political " abnormity" ;D )

Latin : dux  Nom.             the leader /Leiter   

                                       political f.e.        " Duce "Mussolini     

                                       royal dynaste       Duke of Mountbatten( Battenberg)   Duque de Laplace or Ampere.   

  ( con-) ducere            con-duction, in-duction


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« Reply #2544 on: April 09, 2019, 10:04:58 PM »
Wesley,

Yes it is obvious to the people who were there something is more than fishy with 911 story, but this is probably not the forum for such a discussion, only that your point is very well digested!
 This planet has been tabula raza many times and this is why our known history is so recent.  The more advanced do not live on the outside.

So yes you are correct when the fleas get out of hand the mother can shake them off.  But does man need to be a load on nature? no it is possible to live within the constraints of "leave no trace" but very few care enough to try.

Funny we share a similar outlook as far as inventions and money potential vs subtracting from unilateral time control.  A sure reward for small risk but sacrifice is the time and hassle, yes I clearly understand your point.

We are all here to learn a lesson and hopefully move forward a bit while doing so.  Each little challenge was put in front to see which way we turn and is  patterning or de-patterning a result.

Sorry, The Patagonia comment went over my head.

Let me speak to the difference of people and this could be considered an evolved soul vs a young one.  We also see this same metaphor in countries from how the people in emerging nations act vis a vis first world.  And again you are correct about too many people taking the statis quo in the US from being spoiled and overfed lion creating evolutionary death from attrition.
Every child is a sociopath and begins by manipulating their parents.  Is the child raised in such a way as to become a mench or stay sociopath.

This is a super big point.  Peoples evolution is being tightly controlled by the powers that be in a way designed to take away rather than add to the human beings best interest as an evolving organism. As per your point from Wardecliff to Visiv   Every morning they have the "news shows" that are designed to switch the amygdala into fight or flight mode to keep people stuck on stupid.  Since the people do not exercise they are often addicted to the anger from the TV in order to feel some form of Adrenalin.
 Now one may say ok people in the USA at least have freedom of choice and can choose to be mind controlled or not, but we are also a very young race, this time around, and being manipulated in order to stop individual evolution in order some organized power structure can get more of money and power.  Similar to the movie They Live where Homo Sapiens are selling out other homo sapiens for a leg up from the aliens- for something as fleeting as power and wealth.

I just don't understand why people act in the machine in such a way as to devolve their own kind and keep men as children.  As a child my generation was promised the stars and had their collective birthright stolen right out from under us.

So one can say screw it people will do what they will do, or one can say this birth right from God of an evolving homo sapiens sapiens is being stepped on and trod over by a very old diseased thinking power structure and the odds really need to be leveled to allow for a proper evolution--- or not---
So live and let live vs live and let die.

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« Reply #2545 on: April 09, 2019, 11:32:23 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66tEd-qh6dQ
Some interesting play with Avramenko

Wesley

Interesting play....emphasis is on "play"

Systemtic measurement-error : He measured open-loop voltage and not Voltage under load ( inner resistance
of intrument is the load while measureing current )

So the calculation of power is wrong.

Additional error might be bandwidth of instrument.

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« Reply #2546 on: April 10, 2019, 01:24:39 PM »
#2534 mkjekyll :
when                 1 coil x     1000000 coil turns x 1 Ampere-turn ~ revolution = 1 Mio. A

or.                      1 coil x        1 coil turn x 1000000 Ampere-turns=                      1 Mio. A
so are the same           
                           1 coil x    1000 coil turns x 1000 Ampere-turns=                       1 Mio.A

                     (    dividing in 10 , 100 , ..coils x coil turns x Ampere-turns )

The Kunel- bearing device , a bearing in a bearing, so 360.000 mechanical  revolutions divides in 600x600 mechanical "revolution each "-stages would mean less friction and less wear ! Available ?

Kunel- amplifier device, factor 10: 10 Ampere- coils
More or less "Mass" : coil mass in Kg or more or less "Speed- velocity" in pulsed  Hz cycles

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« Reply #2547 on: April 10, 2019, 02:16:03 PM »
And so the verbal crud starts to flow that's so unrelated to the original subject, perhaps it's time to put the brakes back on.

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« Reply #2548 on: April 10, 2019, 05:10:08 PM »
AlienGrey,many "Puzzle"-parts will change the future :

https://www.google.com/search?q=24%2F7+power+transmission+drone&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b
+ flying "Viziv"- Transceiver
+ 24/7 flying solar-/ wind- energy-glider f. e.  http://airhes.com/ 

But this is only for on-grid consumer,industrial and private, important.
Off-grid net-architecture is with less over-head costs, 50% cheaper.

Sincerely
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« Reply #2549 on: April 10, 2019, 05:17:54 PM »
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