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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2475 on: April 05, 2019, 03:03:16 AM »
conclusion:
If we refer to sonar Rx( receiver mounted on Helicopter )
than we have no gain.
Rx in helicopter must  have Doppler effect  transmitting device looking at surface of the  water.
All of the vibration of the  water caused by Tx sound wave reflected from submarine must be at first
-sensed by  Doppler  at the surface of the water
-than compared with Rx pattern  and  due to movement of submarine show its direction.
 However if submarine doesn't move than Receiver must compare  constructive interference with  non interference.
 https://www.dictionary.com/browse/constructive-interference
by that we have only lose of energy from both parts and no gain.

Mr Smith envisioned that gain is  to be  achieved by means of energy collection  and only by Rx.
and by employment of magic of very specific, magnetostructive material.
But in the big picture he uses this as an  example for his further explanation,
or to be more accurate to reinforce his later course of thought /train of thought

Wesley
 comment is referring to : last link from page 165

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« Reply #2476 on: April 05, 2019, 04:31:53 AM »
Wesley perhaps I am a bot off topic now but a very solid RF guy turned me onto this VNA, looks interesting have to find out more such as is tracking gen limited like in the Chinese box.

https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf-dx

Looks as though the coupler is inside the unit similar to many antenna analyzers, I do not know the downside of this config.

I don't participate on these forums much but have watched presentations and I highly respect the stuff Tinselkoala presents, thank you for participating in Wesleys tech circus!

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2477 on: April 05, 2019, 04:59:01 AM »
Wesley perhaps I am a bot off topic now but a very solid RF guy turned me onto this VNA, looks interesting have to find out more such as is tracking gen limited like in the Chinese box.

https://www.arraysolutions.com/antenna-analyzers%20/vna-uhf-dx

Looks as though the coupler is inside the unit similar to many antenna analyzers, I do not know the downside of this config.

I don't participate on these forums much but have watched presentations and I highly respect the stuff Tinselkoala presents, thank you for participating in Wesleys tech circus!

Mick
5 kHz to 1200 MHz.                                                        good
 N-type connectors.
 Includes Calibration load set with N-type male connectors.  good    #1
 Two test coaxial cables. Power Supply                                good     #2
 Impedance, SWR,                                                             good
 Return Loss (S11) and Insertion Loss (S21)                       good
==========================================Port A is equivalent to an antenna analyzer. (Similar to the AIMUHF).
Port B has a 50 ohm input impedance with return loss greater than 20dB.
Port B nominal dynamic range: 90 dB up to 200 MHz, 70 dB up to 500 MHz, 60 dB up to 1 GHz.
Programmable RF amplitude for Port A (-13 to -33 dBm).
Resistance and reactance measurements of antennas and discrete components.
Transmission measurements through filters or networks.
Markers for impedance scans and Smith charts.
 Parameters that can be plotted include: Resistance and reactance for series or parallel equivalent circuits.
Impedance magnitude and phase angle.
SWR
Return loss
Two port network transmission (S21, magnitude and phase).
S11 and S21 can be plotted at the same time.
Cable length, impedance, loss, and velocity factor                        - that must be TDR future  #2
Distance to fault (open or short)                                                 - that must be TDR future
TDR (Time Domain Reflectometer) plots                                      - that must be TDR future  
Smith chart displays (featuring phase rotation and zoom)
Band scan to check for interfering signals
Quartz crystal parameter measurements
Preprogrammed functions, such as tuning a ¼ WL stub, and many more
I/O expansion port for accessories (digital and analog)
Calibration loads are included                                       They repeat  the same many times  let's mark it as #1
No internal adjustments
Optically isolated USB interface to PC
Impedance measurements can range up to 10.000 ohms.
The sign of the phase angle indicates either inductive or capacitive reactance without ambiguity.
The RF generator can also be used as a signal source for testing receivers.
The frequency is very stable and it can be calibrated with the WWV signal.
Digitized data is sent to the PC via an optically isolated USB port.
Power for the VNAuhf can be obtained from a small DC power supply or a battery.
With a laptop computer, the unit is quite small and portable.
Measurements can be made at ground level and translated as if they were at the antenna feedpoint by using the refer to antenna function.
The impedance at the antenna itself can be read with the VNAuhf located in the shack at the receiving/transmitting end of the coax.
The cable can be any length.
The cable's impedance and loss characteristics are determined by a simple calibration procedure and the antenna's impedance is then plotted directly during the scan.
Numeric values can be read from the graph data using the mouse-controlled cursor.
The scan data can be saved to disk or printed to compare before and after results. It can also be imported into spreadsheet programs for further analysis.
 Included Accessories:Power Cord
12VDC Worldwide Power Supply
N-Male Calibration set  #1
USB A to B cable         #2
VNA-UHF Cables          #2

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I have pointed  only that this  list could be 3 times shorter.I do not know the price, if it is few hundred dollars than it can be god deal.
but you need computer, software and monitor.
The N connectors look for me like cheap directional coupler of some Chinese garbage manufacturer but I might  be  wrong.
No brand names  like Narda, Microlab, Amphenol,  or even  very inexpensive Mini Circuits .
 
The processing can be slow or very slow that we do not know.
So look at Youtube if you can  find  how it works.
and post your search here.
Wesley
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2478 on: April 05, 2019, 08:28:31 AM »
$1300 I think,  they have a single port unit for about $500.   The frequency response looks good but so did the Siglent until one gets to the lowside of the tracking gen which did not match lowside of the spectrum analyzer.  Not o mention the crazy software pricing.

Still looking for a you tube or video of performance.  Likely CPU-Ram related if code is not bloated DLL files that choke the puter.

The pci card unit you mentioned did not go low enough and the HP Vxi card unit that does go low enough

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-89640A-VXI-Based-2-7-GHz-RF-Vector-Signal-Analyzer-PRICE-DROP/232488518625?hash=item36216543e1:g:PBkAAOSwo-RZuuSv

https://www.keysight.com/us/en/software/application-sw/89600-vsa-software.html#Bundles

 the software is very costly and may not have the scattering or smith charting.  I cant find the software free from Keysite except the 30day trial  Maybe I should sell the HP 89411 I got working and get the little computer based one, lower S/N ratio but more functionality.  Although that HP can go super low so may be worth hanging onto even without the S parameters.

Most of the cheap puter ones do not work below a few hundred MHz so I think the unit I posted is different in that it is based on a lower freq unit and uses freq multiplication for higher frequencies, this would explain the lower dynamic range on the higher frequencies.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2479 on: April 05, 2019, 02:26:12 PM »
It looks like the best deal you can make is buying old used VNA.
Other options:
Software from  Keysight / Agilent is crazy  expensive.

The toughest part is that  we  are dealing with HV.
I remember 2011 after my comeback to  USA from Tariel Kapanadze house.
I was happy that Russian FSB did not succeed wiping me  from  planet earth.
I was so mad that I wanted to give  FE  as soon I could, 
just to see  these bastards dancing around  end of their regime and prosperity.

So I  started to work on my experiments. Months later  I went to Lithuania for Lithuania experiment.
The side effects:
Fairly young guy who survived 9/11 attack, when  airplane hit his office of WTC  exactly in 77floor, was in shock how fragile  is human life.
I wanted to be alive  and healthy - And just 11  years  later  Lithuania Experiment made me  think  about it again.
 
https://youtu.be/YrRc-xieWjE?t=683
https://youtu.be/Mn8TLBsR3r0?t=501

But exactly  at the same time people from around the world started to contact me sharing with me, their own intellectual property.
And that was the end of my freedom of sharing information.
In general Russians I have met out there have been , taught  till brainwash that:
Quote
What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine and now I can hit you in the  eye with it, if I want...If I only  want to.
You shouldn't  tell me what you told me because now it could be used against you.

You shouldn't do it voluntarily, or even when I force you to do so.  Not under any circumstances.
You are the one whose fault  it is Wesley.
The  respect to personal/intellectual property , and dignity was violated by
Russian interpretation of Marks and Engels ideological reality forcing great part of Europe to disobey their traditional values till 1990 and  some others for more than 70 years now .
But I'm American with family raised in great European values and I will respect these who ask me to be fair.

I did my experiments near my rack with  all valuable   electronics and soon I discovered that
HP4194A that was not ON, stop working. Fortunately,  it was only static electricity  affecting capacitors in it.
Shortly after that I bought plenty of 50Ohm BNC resistors   and regular BNC connectors,  and  used  shorted  BNC connectors  in every possible port of every device in the rack
that was not used in given time.
That is called termination.
for regular squeezable BNC I placed piece of wire inside  and squeezed it  to create short.
It is unfortunate that  one second can turn into garbage  your expensive  piece of equipment

So conclusion from my post is:
1. I know more than I'm allowed to say.
2. You must not repeat my mistakes.
3. Take care about your equipment.

Wesley
« Last Edit: April 05, 2019, 05:29:11 PM by stivep »

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« Reply #2480 on: April 05, 2019, 06:50:19 PM »
Wesley,

Thanks for the idea of crushing the terminators, it is a good one as it blocks the port besides just shorting it.  Probably pretty easy to blow a detector even with the unit off.

OK so the Lithuania guys think they own your ass because you worked on a project with them, I am assuming this one, perhaps other projects you refer.  Well what I see from the Lithuania is another take on the TPU but using Ferrite instead of iron wire.
Anyways what are they going to do with it, get a company that gives them just enough money to live a moderate life without working like the company Mark is involved with likely does?  They can't sell it to anyone as it is not allowed in this grim level of planetary evolution we live in.
I think there are these offshoot companies funded by petro companies that suppress this stuff and the person thinks they will make millions but the way the contract is written in the end they live moderately.  I know this stuff happens in the medical field when a cure for something is created at a big university and the pharma people bury it and the inventor gets peanuts up front and thinks he will share in the licensing of the unreleased product.

Sorry those people think this way, it is like the modern Chinese are very nice people but have been conditioned to call the authorities at the smallest transgression such as a house guest.  I have been to Cambodia and seen first hand what happens to people from this type of thinking of a state savior.  I meet many Venezuelans who have left their own country to be able to eat yet Chavez daughter is one of the richest women in the world from the "social reform."  They can't even eat except from dumpsters and this was the second or third highest GDP country for many years.


It is very sad that many people look forward to socialism in the US when this is the only country on the planet where one has individual freedoms respected.  They began this with the graduated income tax which is right out of Marx and things are getting less and less free here but compared to the rest of the planet my god, people have no idea what they have here.  So much taken for granted by naive people who have never tried or traveled.

I don't think that the Keysite software has the S parameters, I think there is a hack somewhere for the VNE software, but I was surprised this functionality, S params and Smith charting, is somewhat more recent.  I suppose I can derive from this old unit what I need but then again it would be nice to have the damn Smith charting real time.  I don't know about your devices but this 89411 is designed for testing live RF, I forget the amount of watts but I was surprised when I read the spec..  Not that I would tempt fate near a Tesla coil or anything like that, but the old units are likely much more robust.  That new one the RF guy turned me onto is fully computer decoupled by optos.  Something old that goes from 5khz and has the charting will cost about the same with a lot of hunting.  Yes the noise specs are not as good with this new all digital stuff but the functionality we need should be sufficient and it has a warranty.

I am surprised you had a cap go bad from the static, sometimes they hold a charge in the wrong direction for a bit but for me it is always the damn solid state junctions that get punched, MOSFETS Bipolar, IGBT doesn't matter.

Wow you were in the tower, good grief tower one or two?

Have you ever had an issue without any power to the device where the energy from the tracking gen or a waveform generator caused enough output to damage your gear?

What type of decoupler do you use to your test gear to protect from earthed EMP shots, an isolation transformer or a UPS?

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« Reply #2481 on: April 05, 2019, 11:17:34 PM »
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/dlattach/attach/172558/image//
On the picture you see on the left regular connectors with  piece of wire inside and than squeezed.
On  the picture on the right you see regular 50 Ohm.
The difference is that:
- set of calibrating connectors Short Open 50 Ohm has nothing to do with it.
- set of regular cheap connectors and cheap 50 Ohm terminating resistor/connectors   is used   as  per picture.
=====================================================================
Lithuania experiment was my voluntary decision to participate.
I helped  Aidas a lot with equipment and not only.
The problem was  physical side effects impacting my health.
The good  of it was that it happened to all of us.,- so  it definitely happened.
Aidas  started to lose  hair  like crazy
I had very strong headache  and vertigo
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Yes My office  was in World Trade Center 1.
I was the president of my own scientific entity
I was working with  programs of NASA, DoD, DoP, DARPA, Army Rangers, Gold Mining, Copper Mining, USGS
Los Alamos NDA , and  plenty more.
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When playing with HV, my  4194A  didn't go bad. it went crazy.
And 4194A was playing dead after that.
I gave it  short to  all of the BNC connectors with power off,
and waited 30 minutes.
Watching for any unusual behavior I got it back alive.

                                               

Wesley                                     

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« Reply #2482 on: April 05, 2019, 11:48:33 PM »
Wesley,

Sounds like you had a really interesting company, sorry you went through all that Hell, can't imagine.  I have a friend who was a first responder NYFD now he has serious issues with health, lost most of his friends.  Horrible horrible stories no one should have to go through.  I suppose there are serious ramifications concerning PTSD like witnesses to a bank robbery must feel.

What do you prefer to use to decouple your test gear, isolation transformer or other?

Did you check the Lithuania experiment for gamma or neutrons?


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« Reply #2483 on: April 06, 2019, 02:29:15 AM »
I do not use any form of decoupler.
Coupling in measured circuit is critical to make it work.
Devices used to measure must not be in any way a part of this process.

Inverse square law is primary tool to  be able to take measurement   safely to equipment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
When possible I  use decade  attenuator.

Short wire 1cm, inside N connector of Spectrum Analyzer not connected to anything
if  HV is involved.

Wesley

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« Reply #2484 on: April 06, 2019, 04:09:05 AM »
Wesley,
 
I meant to isolate the power side from ground and kill common mode noise on the supply side, not decouple the measurement side. 

Nice setup with the divider pads though.



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« Reply #2485 on: April 06, 2019, 10:55:36 AM »
but I can’t do anything. I wanted to get it. There is a strong desire.
But not yet. :'(

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« Reply #2486 on: April 06, 2019, 11:32:59 AM »
stivep with all those sofiticated instruments what you have not figure out how
make a free energy machine..look just send me over an oscilloscope spectrum analyzer and a swr meter
and i will put you all on a platter the kapadnaze free energy machine..easy.
 

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« Reply #2487 on: April 06, 2019, 02:15:04 PM »
but I can’t do anything. I wanted to get it. There is a strong desire.
But not yet. :'(

//..look just send me over an oscilloscope spectrum analyzer and a swr meter
and i will put you all on a platter the Kapanadze free energy machine..easy.//

I'm just Regular American with regular American Life and  I'm not wealthy.
In the past I was helping researchers and amateurs with money and equipment.
In some cases  I do it now too.
Unfortunately I'm not Mother Teresa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_Teresa

All of your 27 Slavic  languages - I can  somehow understand and few of them I can  speak, only because  they are  similar.
So you speak 3 of them and rest is just, easy.
I know your culture,typical thoughts, dreams, level of education, economy, political differences, and look of your typical house and apartment from inside.
I know your mentality  fears, and  look of your  faces  in the bus, at 6 AM in the morning going to work.
I know  your typical taste, food, dress, manners, customs, corruption, bribes,
The best I think I know your faces, mimics, gesture eyes, And I was trained to read it.
My wife is high level Psychologist with targeted, specialized professional training skills.
That allowed me to spot paid servants of hostile foreign origin  in this forum.
I can blend if I want too. Become invisible, change colors on demand.
In few on Slavic countries  you can not find that I'm not one of you.
I do not have your fear, everyday stress,- to know what to say when  an  how to "truly" apply smile and mimics,
is my weak spot but I can simulate it.

Based on all above my advise is:
If you are  in young age up to 35 years old and that specially applies to Russians, Kazakhs, and so on..
Go to EU or USA Canada, Australia.
In  average  - around 6 to 10 years you will  buy your first house, and if you smart,
the very first day after you do it you do not have to work  any longer.  Yes that is true.
Your life expenses are covered by  rental income.
I was in shock watching Polish guys  in USA ( my wife is Polish)  in within few years
buying house after house with bank money.
All of these jokes about Polish from 70ties and 90ties disappeared.
 
So what is the conclusion?
Do not expect help. Hep yourself and all of you can have much nicer lab than I have.

//stivep with all those sophisticated instruments what you have not figure out how
make a free energy machine//.
Who said I didn't?
Simple Answer to  you:
- What is not mine is not mine.
  It is yours and I respect it .
  You tell me what you want me to do with it
  That is the difference between me and many of you.!!!
  And that is why many of you trusts me.

There are not one but many ways to FE.
You want it now ? - than fallow Viziv.
I said everything here in this topic.
This way to FE is free for me to talk about it,
and is up to me to say something or not.

Wesley
 

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« Reply #2488 on: April 06, 2019, 02:38:46 PM »
For these who have problem to understand what I said in my previous post:
Viziv does not differ  much from Tariel Kapanadze and its clones.
It does have  form factor similar to Tesla Coil in its traditional version.
But it is verified and invested too. ( billions dollars) practical and scientific platform.

The confusing part is  for many of you to understand difference between Tx and Rx.
While Tx is truly  very rigorous in its design, Rx is quite forgiving in its form FACTOR.
And when you look at Tariel Kapanadze coil  you are looking at Rx.

THE GOOD PART IS THAT  I PROVIDE KNOWN AND CHECKED AND VERIFIED THEORY
for  phenomena in question.
The only part that is not explained by  no one is naturally present  surface wave in the interface
earth/ air in Schumann waveguide.


- Can I be Wrong?
- Yes in a sense I can.
  Explanation of phenomena is based on current models.
  Interpretation of models in physics and proper application is a key to
  practical technological  move forward in a purposeful way.

- Can we still have working device that was wrongly  explained by science? 
- Sure we can.  wheel was first  and explanation was done much  later.
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel

Wesley

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« Reply #2489 on: April 06, 2019, 02:46:12 PM »
STIVEP I WAS JUST JOKING. I AM SEYCHELLOIS, THAT IS MY ANCESTORS ARE FRENCH
BORN ON PRASLIN ISLAND SEYCHELLES INDIAN OCEAN. I DID MY ELECTRONICS TRAINING IN AUSTRALIA.
I WORKED THERE AS AN ELECTRONIC ENGINEER AS AN RF TECHNICIAN WITH MOTOROLA
COMMUNICATION.. SO IT WAS IN THE ERA WHEN TWO WAY RADIOS WAS KING. I SAW THE
ADVENT OF COMPUTER FROM CARD TO COMMODORE 64K AND WINDOWS 96 AND THERE IS
MY WHOLE PLUS MORE..I WAS JUST JOSHING..I LIVE ON PRASLIN ISLAND AND I JUST WENT
FISHING ON MY KAYAK TO CATCH LUNCH AND DINNER.. PEACE LOVE AND ENJOY THE PRIVILEGE
OF EXISTENCE. 

 

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