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Author Topic: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum  (Read 360557 times)

Offline nelsonrochaa

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2370 on: March 19, 2019, 03:07:28 PM »
Making a false device is not so difficult compared to the real one; truth?
True energy seekers are not looking for cheating methods unless their intentions are unfair.

I should not have been clear enough:
For those who claim that the Kapanaze system is false, one of the ways to validate if it is false is to reproduce exactly what kapanadze showed during their demonstrations, and to show how easy it could be to fake that system to the audience, otherwise if no one can reproduce the same effect, I think Kapanadze deserves the doubt as to the veracity of his system,until someone else proves otherwise.


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Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2371 on: March 19, 2019, 03:34:00 PM »
Hi Wesley. I posted some links a page or two back to some other types of devices Kapanadze has demonstrated
such as his disc generators and an apparent 'hydraulic' generator as well.  It would appear these
other devices do not work on the same principle as his coil generators, or at least they are quite different
arrangements altogether. Any comments in regards to your hypothesis you have been putting forward?
I think it is something worth considering anyway. :)


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2372 on: March 19, 2019, 03:38:31 PM »
   Nelson:   As there is so much BS going around on the internet, no one really knows what's up anymore. What is fake, and what is real. There is more fake news, than real news, as to what really matters.  So, we are being kept in the dark, while the hidden underground bases are working with things that are at least 100 years ahead of us. Yet, they won't disclose any of it. 
What a world we live in...
   As the world changes are affecting things all over the world, I feel that it's only a matter of time before we will actually need some form of these free energy devices, to continue on. As things are going to get much worse, before they get better.
   Just look at the Schumann resonance these days, up over 100hz at times. Huge storms, erupting volcanoes, strange things seen and heard coming from in the sky, etz.
   
   BTW:  What is new with you???  As you have been the only one of this forum to actually show a self runner. Will you help us out now?  Or will you continue to hold back what you have found and have developed?
    We don't need clues, and hints, we need real facts.
    Will you help us? So, that we can do the rest.                                                                      NickZ


Hi Nick, I agree that it is difficult to discern the real from the false today given the ease with which anyone nowadays has access to technology capable of misrepresenting the ideas of the people in general.
In this particular case, there are too many diagrams related to kapanadze, Ruslan Akula etc that many of them, nor were they the ones that published them.

About my work, I usually do not talk about my work,  but let me correct you about your statement.
You should not confuse self runner with self feedback. I already clarify this in other ocasions in this same fórum .
The systems I have designed are self feedback resonant systems that self feedback a external portion of energy to inprove the eficiency of the system not a self runner system like you idealize  working without any energy input .

 I hope you have clarified with my answer.
Wish all the best

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2372 on: March 19, 2019, 03:38:31 PM »
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2373 on: March 19, 2019, 04:00:32 PM »
Wesley Hi Happy erasing have fun  :)

Also years ago Akula built a toroid using a CD4017 and a bunch of 12 diodes
only you did a new report on the device

Err wich video was that? please?

regards AG
« Last Edit: March 19, 2019, 09:43:22 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2374 on: March 19, 2019, 04:04:13 PM »
   Nelson:   Well, no you didn't clarify the part about self running and self feed back. As most all of the shown self runners are based on a feed back circuit, to keep them going.
   In the video below, translated by Wesley, you are showing a device that needs only a one or just a few second pre-charge to start. But, then it is shown running on it's own for much longer than it would normally be expected from the small 9v battery one second change. As your device was stopped after a short while, I would now have to assume that it does not keep running for much longer than what is being shown, less than a minute.  Is this correct?
     https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0
    You can also PM me, if you'd rather not discuss this openly. I would understand your position.

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Offline Void

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2375 on: March 19, 2019, 05:09:47 PM »
Wesley, guys, I posted some links to some video demonstrations of some other types of devices
by Kapanadze including some different types of disc generators, and an apparent hydraulic generator from 2015.
Apparently quite different approaches/configurations than Kapanadze's coil generators.
See those video links here:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532768/#msg532768

Apparently the video at the first link is one of Kapanadze's very first demos. It would be interesting
to know what Kapanadze had to say in that very early demo, to compare notes.
Do you think there could be a common principle behind all of Kapanadze's quite different types of generators
(coil, discs, hydraulic)? If you think there is a common principle behind them, what do you see that might be in
common between these three different approaches (besides possible tricks ;) ) ? If they all work on different principles,
then how could Kapanadze come up with three completely different approaches like that? If they are all working on the same
or similar principle, then what may be common between those three different types of Kapanadze generators?
A puzzle for you.


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2376 on: March 19, 2019, 05:36:38 PM »
    Guys:
   My feelings are that someone has been helping Tariel to design and build all those shown devices. Especially the newer ones, as he has no electronic knowledge well enough to build those last few devices by himself. Who that might be, is still unknown.   It seams that there is still some people of the Slavic types that have some of this old and forgotten knowledge.
   The Bosnian pyramid now being unearth and it's tunnels opened up, is one such example of this ancient knowledge.
   TK does mention Tesla as being the basis of his design ideas. Hopefully we won't need to keep guessing, more longer.

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2377 on: March 19, 2019, 06:04:30 PM »
I FOR ONE LOVE STIVEP, JUST KEEP DOING THE GREAT WORK, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE OTHER GUYS..
JUST TO PUT ON THE RECORD I LOVE YOUR GIRL FRIEND MORE THAN YOU..JUST JOSHING..

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2378 on: March 19, 2019, 06:08:56 PM »
DO NOT STRESS STIVEP, I AM JUST YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR
RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INDIAN OCEAN.  4 DEGREES SOUTH OF THE
EQUATOR..

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2379 on: March 19, 2019, 07:49:16 PM »
   Nelson:   Well, no you didn't clarify the part about self running and self feed back. As most all of the shown self runners are based on a feed back circuit, to keep them going.
   In the video below, translated by Wesley, you are showing a device that needs only a one or just a few second pre-charge to start. But, then it is shown running on it's own for much longer than it would normally be expected from the small 9v battery one second change. As your device was stopped after a short while, I would now have to assume that it does not keep running for much longer than what is being shown, less than a minute.  Is this correct?
     https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0
    You can also PM me, if you'd rather not discuss this openly. I would understand your position.
Hi Nick,

Nick, I am not going to detail the process used in this circuit, because I am currently disputing in court the intellectual property of this same system, which was retained in Germany by the company with which I was working, but what is demonstrated in this video is not an overunity system, the system was not projected to self run even could self run some minutes , with a resistive load.
It is a Resonant system with some interesting characteristics of "amplification"able to show more work in output than it is input in terms of efficiency, But it is all mere assumptions on my side that would have to be checked in the laboratory with independent and competent entities.
This is a unpublished video where you could see the same circuit without be totally assembled, but show how much power a 9v could store :) and provide output  :) to a 60w 220v motor with a a 2kg metal disc on the load.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/JEYdPrEdXYX8AMHR6
All the best Nick

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2380 on: March 19, 2019, 07:58:49 PM »
Hi Nick, my guess is Kapanadze somehow got his hands on a compilation containing a collection
of different inventions for free energy. Maybe some secret document(s) compiled by some department of
the former Soviet military, and somebody passed it on to Kapanadze, or Kapanadze otherwise got his hands on it.
Kapanadze seems to be a very smart guy. With that basic starting information, he was able to replicate several different
types of devices. Either that, or Kapanadze is pretty friendly with some aliens. ;D

That first generator that Kapanadze shows at the first video link I posted seems to possibly be
an electric motor driving a long shaft with several non-balanced fly wheels on it of different types, and
the end of that shaft drives a generator which loops back and powers the electric motor.

This appears to be different than his other disc generators which might only have two discs of two
different types of metal, and which may be some special type of homopolar generators.

Then the hydraulic generator appears to work on a completely different type of setup.
If you add Kapanadze's different coil generators onto that list, and possibly even a car engine that
can run on water, and you get quite a few different types of free energy generators coming from one man. 
All of them are amazing on their own, if legit. Pretty mind boggling coming from one person.
So, either former Soviet secret compendium document of free energy inventions, or Tariel talks to aliens. ;D


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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2381 on: March 19, 2019, 09:45:01 PM »
One of the members  of this forum suggested that strong radio station at 225kHz could be the source of some "successful" presentations.
He suggested that:
1. historically  Russia  is using strong  RF noise to interfere with signals of
Radio Free Europe or Voice of America   with their 500kW-1MW transmitters
that can be the source of energy.
2.since antenna of such transmitters is connected to the ground
 some of energy can  travel thru the ground.

Wesley's response :
ad1. In Near Field Yes, but not in Far Field.( resonant circuit with small RX  antenna  and Lightbulb as a  load)
These stations are not at LW but at SW bandwidth.
ad.2 no it  cannot travel thru the ground.
Circuit must be closed for the current to flow.

The only solution is to try surface wave, and at first  get experience  by sending energy from A to B.
Than based on that experience,  couple to energy  inside  of Schumann waveguide existing in the interface.
Confusion of the crowd  started, when you guys did not pay attention to energy in the INTERFACE!!!!!!
The two nuisances banned from being here for spamming and threatening me  pointed to you
in the wrong place. But  I assume this is their job.

You have no choice guys .
Another 14 years of  hunting  having  no theory  behind  or accept my  explanation .
And if you spend  another 14 years having no result than you are really, really  bad hunters.

Please read this  again:
https://overunity.com/17735/wesleys-kapanadze-and-other-fe-discussion-forum/msg532721/#msg532721


what did you lose if I'm wrong??
what progress do you have anyhow?



Wesley

 
 

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2382 on: March 19, 2019, 10:02:49 PM »
   Nelson:   Well, no you didn't clarify the part about self running and self feed back. As most all of the shown self runners are based on a feed back circuit, to keep them going.
   In the video below, translated by Wesley, you are showing a device that needs only a one or just a few second pre-charge to start. But, then it is shown running on it's own for much longer than it would normally be expected from the small 9v battery one second change. As your device was stopped after a short while, I would now have to assume that it does not keep running for much longer than what is being shown, less than a minute.  Is this correct?
     https://youtu.be/mz9NRYQJJt0
    You can also PM me if you'd rather not discuss this openly. I would understand your position.
Interesting video did you notice the black torrid, now that is interesting.

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« Reply #2383 on: March 20, 2019, 02:14:10 AM »
Good stuff, Excellent Work!
In line with surface waves
Absolutely matching my experiment
https://youtu.be/KLAPRNWuAn4?t=870
And very much wrong explanation
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 Mentioned : LDW - There is no such thing  as longitudinal dielectric wave.
 Mentioned :
Eric Dollard - He was made, to be an icon,   sacred FE  personage,
 but he is renegade, with social adaptation problem. Intelligent brain
 who was shiny some time in the past and now admired   very   much only by some.
 For some others he is  tasteful but not delicious.. at the end there is science
 having problem to swallow it.



This video starts from  minute 6:57.
It was made by highly respected by me  German
  Gentleman
TheOldScientist Published on Aug 17, 2012
Superluminal Scalar Waves for Communications
He says:
Quote
I will demonstrate one example where it outperforms standard electromagnetic or transverse wave propagation.

This is the link to video:
https://youtu.be/wjz-5Lqtxow?t=418


To understand why it is wrong explanation we need to go to  here
http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b2/tesla2.pdf
or here
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/deltaavalon/L.M.D.%20waves%20in%20a%20Tesla%20Coil%20revised.pdf

The paper can not be accepted from science stand point.

However this is not important now>
1.My dielectric was not  grounded
and Old scientist  receiver in metal box  and  another  metal box was not grounded
both manifested energy received  (OldScientist at 187kHz)

The point is that Faraday box inside of another box in air ( form of   Spherical  capacitor.)
can be compared to Wesley's dielectric
in air with respect to sphere ( the charged dielectric)   
Hint!! Do  not think  here about Faraday cage  but about charge conservation.
What is happening when outer  box is charged   and both of the boxes are painted  with dielectric.
look at article below and picture  below


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235154609_Electromagnetic_Scattering_by_a_System_of_Dielectric_Spheres_Coated_With_a_Dielectric_Shell
this is link to picture below.
Important is to notice the character of that charge as dynamically  variable

2. Article mentioned TEM and surface wave.
http://www.tuks.nl/pdf/Reference_Material/deltaavalon/L.M.D.%20waves%20in%20a%20Tesla%20Coil%20revised.pdf
3. article  from above mentioned spherical resonator and its limitations to emit due to its spherical shape, and by that its very much dielectric character.

It was year 2012
Corum Brothers  just started, having no money  and no sponsor.
Now they have billions and technology is only at its infant  stage.
That is why Old Scientist had no idea about surface wave
It was era of "scalar wave"

Some information about  frequency allocation: https://wikivisually.com/wiki/LowFER

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Re: Wesley's Kapanadze and other FE discussion forum
« Reply #2384 on: March 20, 2019, 02:22:13 PM »
I'm independent, and very much immunized  from any targeted technical influence on me by anyone.
Deeply hurt, by one foreign clown in the past and now acting  in opposition to him in technical field.


So let's continue.

In order to create surface wave in the interface you need elevated charge ( dynamically variable)

(If that would be DC charge than there would be static balance and nothing more.)
All  objects in the path between earth and  dynamically charged object above the earth  are polarized.
That is why my dielectric and Old  Scientist box in the box manifested a dynamic charge.


When you ADD TO IT  phase relation in right time  in HV Tesla coil you will get Mirror image  below the  earth ground of that dynamically charged charge and  in the effect of it

if:
I repeat again:

-frequency is right
- position of the  dynamically charged charge  is right
- phase is right
you are getting your surface wave in the interface.
And interface is your space between  earth and air.
Try that  first and  than  based on your experience you will be ready for
Schumann waveguide and its surface wave phenomena.

At the end using your hands not mine I can say to  that foreign clown goodby for ever.
I belong to shadows.And shadows  are the most  influential ...but not many  of you know it.

Wesley
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